[1. Call to Order by Mayor Darrell A. Davis.]
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LIKE TO CALL THIS RAINY MAY 23RD MEETING TO ORDER.
[2. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes: May 9, 2022.]
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM MAY 9TH, 2022.MOVE TO APPROVE THE SECOND YOU HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[3. City Council Nominations to Boards and Commissions:]
IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR FOR A LOT OF NOMINATIONS AND RENOMINATIONS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.UM, MAYORS NOMINATIONS, REAPPOINTMENTS NOMINATION OF STANDING WAGNER TO THE VISIT EDMOND TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD TO REPLACE LINDA BANKS.
UCO REPRESENTATIVE TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
REAPPOINTMENT OF RONNIE WILLIAMS TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT BOARD OF APPEALS TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
REAPPOINTMENT OF KAY BEGUN TO COME TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
BOARD OF APPEALS TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
REAPPOINTMENT OF SHELLY GETS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
PROJECT ADVISORY BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF AN OZONE BLIND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
ADVISORY BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF JOSH MCCLINTOCK TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ADVISORY BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF MARTHA BALL TO THE EM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF PHIL FROM TO THE EDMUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
REEMPLOYMENT OF JAMES CROWDED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
REAPPOINTMENT OF LACEY BULKY TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF LINDSEY BELKEY TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
DID WE DO WANT TO DO THEM ALL TOGETHER OR? SURE.
WARD ONE NOMINATIONS REAPPOINTMENTS NOMINATION OF JOHN SELDON RUSS TO THE EDMUND BICYCLE COMMITTEE TO REPLACE JEFF BENNETT TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF MATTHEW MYERS TO THE VISUAL ARTS COMMISSION.
THE TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 WAR THREE NOMINATIONS AND REAPPOINTMENTS NOMINATION OF CATHERINE MAXON TO THE CENTRAL URBAN EDMUND URBAN DISTRICT BOARD TO REPLACE DAVID FOUR'S TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 NOMINATION OF CHRIS GORDON TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
ADVISORY BOARD REPLACED MATTHEW ANDERSON TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025, REAPPOINTMENT OF PERRY SNI TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 REAPPOINTMENT OF WARREN BURR BURGERS TO THE KICKING BIRD GOLF CLUB ADVISORY BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 AND REAPPOINTMENT OF DARRELL SCHROCK TO VISUAL ARTS COMMISSION TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2020 5, 25.
THOSE ARE ALL THE NOMINATIONS REAPPOINTMENTS WE HAVE TO APPROVE MAYOR.
SECOND SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS IN REAPPOINTMENTS THERE.
[4. General Consent Items:]
CONSENT ITEMS, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, UH, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR KICKING BIRD GOLF COURSE, A PROJECT FOR $650,000 APPROVAL SUPPLEMENT APPROPRIATION APPROPRIATION FOR CEMETERY BUDGET FOR $7,000.ACCEPTANCE OF DONATED UTILITY EASEMENT FROM GUS AND MARGO GIULIANO'S FAMILY LIMITED PARTNERSHIP ASSOCIATED WITH A PUBLIC SANITARY SEWER LINE AT 36 0 1 SOUTH BROADWAY ACCEPTANCE OF DONATED EASEMENT FROM SCV DEVELOPMENT, LLC FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 SANITARY SEWER REHABILITATION PHASE TWO PROJECT.
AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL CONSIDERATIONS OF ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE BONDS LIKE THE POOL.
[1. Discussion and Consideration of Supplemental Appropriation for Kickingbird Golf Course Project; $650,000.]
ONE ON THE GOLF COURSE.THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON OUR GOLF COURSE PROJECT.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU'VE SEEN I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN DRIVING UP BRYANT.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF THE STEEL COMING UP OUT OF THE GROUND AND THEN JUST TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS AS IT RELATES TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION REQUEST, THE SEASONING THAT'S BEFORE YOU FOR A VOTE.
ONCE AGAIN, AS YOU'VE BEEN DRIVING UP BRIAN, AND EVEN AS YOU MOVE DOWN DOWN FORTH, YOU SEE A LOT OF STEEL COMING UP OUT OF THE GROUND IN REGARDS TO OUR CLUBHOUSE PROJECT.
UM, WE'VE GOT ROOFTOPS ON TOP OF ALL THE BUILDINGS AND
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THE EXTERIOR WALLS ALONG THE SPECIAL EVENTS CENTER.WE HAVE THE FLOORING POURED IN THE RESTAURANT, SPECIAL EVENTS CENTER AND TERM BAR AREA.
AS YOU CAN SEE FURTHER OFF TO THE EAST IS OUR DRIVING RANGE PAVILION WITH THE ROOF AND THE INTERIOR WALLS ON THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN CLOSER TO DANFORTH IF YOU DRIVE BY ON DANFORTH, THAT IS OUR INDOOR TEACHING FACILITY.
IT'S A FOUR BAY INDOOR TEACHING FACILITY, WHICH WILL BE UTILIZED FOR INSTRUCTION IN CLUB FITTINGS ALSO IS WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PICTURE HERE IS WE ARE STARTING WORK ON OUR NUMBER ONE TEE BOX WITH THE TOP SOIL.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE ROUGH GRADE FOR THE LARGE PUTTING PRACTICE PUTTING GREEN, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF THE CLUBHOUSE.
SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T QUITE SEE FROM THE ROAD, BUT PROJECTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IS OUR DRIVING RANGE TEAM HAS JUST BEGUN ROUGH GRADING.
THOSE HAVE EITHER BEEN OUT TO KICK IN BIRD BEFORE USED TO BE 50 YARDS, DEEP BY A HUNDRED YARDS WIDE, AND ONE FLAT SURFACE.
THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING IS IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE LEVEL TEE BOX TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BATTLESHIP APPROACH BECAUSE THERE WAS MANY TIMES WHEN GOLFERS WOULD COME OUT TO PRACTICE.
AND IF YOU WERE ON THE BACK END OF THE DRIVING RANGE, T IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE SOME OF THE CLOSE TARGETS.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED A TOP TIER AT APPROXIMATELY 28 YARDS WIDE, GO DOWN A LITTLE SLOPE, THERE'S A MIDDLE T.
AND THEN DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM SLOPE, THAT'LL BE OUR IRON TEE BOX THAT WE WILL UTILIZE.
OR OUR CURRENT PARKING LOT USED TO SIT IS NOW WHERE OUR SHORT GAME PRACTICE AREA IS GOING TO BE.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE HERE IS YOU SEE THE OUTLINE OF TWO OF THE THREE GREENS.
THERE IS ANOTHER GREEN THAT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HERE, AND A LOT OF ROOM FOR CHIPPING PITCHING.
AND AGAIN, SHORT GAME PRACTICE.
THIS SHOULD REALLY HELP US WITH IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THERE BETWEEN ABOUT ONE 30 AND FIVE, O'CLOCK ON A WEEKDAY AFTERNOON WITH ALL OF THE SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES THAT UTILIZE OUR PRACTICE FACILITIES.
WE CAN STICK THE SCHOOLS ON A COUPLE OF THESE GRAINS AND THEN ALLOW OUR GENERAL PUBLIC TO PRACTICE ON ONE OF THE GREENS AS WELL, AND, UH, REALLY HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THAT.
UM, CONGESTION ON OUR PRACTICE FACILITIES ONTO OUR BRAINS AND IRRIGATION PROJECT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'VE LITERALLY GOT 16 OF THE 18 GRAIN SEATED.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING A PICTURE HERE ARE THE GREEN SURROUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY SODDED IN AND WITH THE WARMER TEMPERATURES THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING, THE GRASS IS TURNING GREEN ARE A LOT OF THE PICTURES I'VE SHOWN YOU, WHETHER IT BE DIFFERENT REPORTS HAVE ALL BEEN DORMANT GRASS, BUT WITH THE HOTTER TEMPERATURES, OF COURSE, THE NEW TO HOUMA GRASS IS TURNING GREEN FOR US.
CONGRESS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND GREEN SURROUNDS HAD BEEN COMPLETED ON 16 OF THE 18 GREENS OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE.
AND AS I SPOKE ABOUT WE'VE SEATED 16 TO THE 18 GRAINS.
THIS IS HOLE NUMBER 12, WHICH IS ON THE FURTHEST EAST POINT OF OUR PROPERTY, RIGHT ALONG FAIRWAY ESTATES.
UH, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE 12TH GRAIN, UH, IS COMING IN NICELY.
THAT IS, UH, AGAIN, SURROUNDED WITH TAHOMA GRASS, NUMBER 12, FAIRWAY.
IT DOES LOOK DEAD AND DIRT, BUT, UH, THAT'S DONE ON PURPOSE.
WE ACTUALLY KILL OUT THE EXISTING BERMUDA GRASS AND BRAD AND HIS STAFF ARE GOING THROUGH AND SPRINGING ALL OF THE FAIRWAYS WITH TAHOMA BERMUDA GRASS, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU USED ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF ALL OF THE GREENS.
AND THAT SPRINGING PROCESS IS QUITE LENGTHY.
BUT THANKS TO OUR STAFF, THEY'VE ALREADY COMPLETED FIVE OF THE 18 HOLES, ALL THAT PROCESS HOLES NUMBER 2, 5, 12, 13, AND 16.
SO THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPRAYED AND HOPEFULLY THAT GRASS WILL BE COMING UP HERE SHORTLY.
IF WE GET SOME WARMER TEMPERATURES, IT'S KINDA BEEN INTERESTING AS WE'RE TRYING TO GROW IN ALL THE GRASS, YOU GOT BERMUDA THAT LOVES THE HIGH HEAT AND YOU GOT BENT GRASS SCREENS THAT LIKE THE COOLER NIGHTS.
AND SO IT'S KINDA BEEN A HARD, A HARD, UH, TRANSITIONAL PERIOD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A SPRING.
SO THESE COOLER NIGHTS THAT REALLY HELPING OUT OUR BANK GRASS GREENS AT THIS POINT, GOING INTO WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, THE SAVING, WHICH IS A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE FOR OUR PROJECT.
UM, DUE TO THE, UH, HISTORIC NATURE OF OUR FACILITY, WE HAVE RUN INTO A FEW UNEXPECTED CHANGES THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE.
I IDENTIFIED THOSE IN A MEMO, I BELIEVE THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON JUST A FEW OF THOSE.
SOME OF THESE ARE WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER, MAYBE VALUE ADDED CHANGES THAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO DO.
AND SOME OF THESE ARE ALSO JUST REQUIRE CHANGES THAT WE MUST DO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROGRESS, UH, THROUGH THE PROJECT.
THESE THAT ARE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, OR SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO DO IN THE FIRST ONE I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WAS LASER LEVELING AND SOLDERING THE EXISTING TEE BOXES.
THIS HAPPENED VERY EARLY IN OUR PROCESS, UM, AS THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK ON THE GRAINS AND THE IRRIGATION PROJECT, WE HAD ABOUT 30% OF THE TEE BOXES THAT WERE GOING TO BE LASER LEVELED AND RESTARTED.
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STAFF TO KEEP THINGS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE COURSES, WE FELT THAT ALL TEE BOXES SHOULD BE LASER LEVELED AND RESORTED, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, IT DID COME AT A COST, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THAT CONSISTENCY, THAT OUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND WILL HOPEFULLY ALLOW US TO ATTRACT MORE COMPETITIVE EVENTS AS WELL AS I WAS SPEAKING WITH COUNCILMAN MOORE THIS AFTERNOON, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN NAMED AS THE HOST OF THE 2024 NCAA MEN'S DIVISION TWO SUPER REGIONAL EVENT.AND IT'S FINDING THE ADDITIONAL YARDAGE AND LASER LEVELING TEE BOXES DOING THESE COURSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HELP US, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT THESE TYPE OF EVENTS.
I WAS HERE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS RISER PIPE AND DRAINAGE PIPE REPAIR.
I LIKE TO BRING THESE TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO REPAIR THEM.
NOW, WHAT THIS WAS WAS BACK IN THE MID NINETIES, WHEN ALBERTSONS CAME TO TOWN, THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE THEIR STORM WATER AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE.
WELL, IT MADE SENSE TO MAYBE RUN IT UNDER BRYANT ACROSS AND ONTO THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH CREATED TWO NICE WATER FEATURES FOR THE GOLF COURSE, BUT THE CORRUGATED STEEL PIPE THAT'S IN HOLE.
NUMBER EIGHT TO BE THE STORM WATER RUN THROUGH THE CREEK, UNFORTUNATELY IS ERODING RIGHT NOW.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO IS GO IN AND REPLACE THAT RISER PIPE AND THE DRAIN PIPE AND WORK WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
WE DECIDED RATHER THAN GOING BACK IN WITH CORRUGATED STEEL, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY RUST AND ABOUT 25 YEARS FROM NOW, AGAIN, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO WITH CONCRETE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE REPLACING THAT PIPE WITH A CONCRETE PIPE.
ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED TO US IS WHEN WE WERE DIGGING AND EXCAVATING FOR OUR CART BAR, WE STRUCK WATER, WELL, NUMBER 16, THIS IS BACK IN THE LATE SIXTIES, BUT THIS WAS THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY.
AND IF ANYBODY DRIVES BY, YOU'LL SEE THE MILLION GALLON WATER TANK AT THE BACK END OF OUR RANGE RUNS FROM THE WATER.
WELL, WHICH IS DOWN OFF OF BRYANT.
AND AS WE WERE EXCAVATING FOR THE UNDERGROUND CART BARN, WE STRUCK THE WATER LINE.
AND RATHER THAN JUST REPAIRING IT IN PLACE, WE CHOSE TO REROUTE THAT WATER LINE OUTSIDE OF THE CLUBHOUSE FOOTPRINT.
SO THAT AGAIN, IF THERE'S EVER A LEAK OR IF ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS TO THAT WATER LINE IN THE FUTURE, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CLUBHOUSE FOOTPRINT, NOT RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING.
SO PRETTY MUCH A NECESSARY REPAIR ON THAT ONE.
AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP, UM, WAS SOME EROSION CONTROL WITH THE PICKLEBALL ENTRANCE.
NOW THAT REALLY WASN'T IN THE GOLF COURSE SCOPE OF WORK AT ALL, BUT WE WILL, WE WERE OVER IN THAT AREA DOING A LOT OF WORK.
THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN EROSION ASPECT RIGHT ALONG BRYANT IN THAT CULVERT.
AND WHILE WE HAVE THE CONTRACTORS ON SITE AND WHY THE EQUIPMENT IS THERE, WE FELT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY TO MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE PICKLEBALL FACILITY.
SO WE CHOSE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN GOING ON TO SOME OTHERS THAT WERE EITHER REQUIRED OR UNRECOGNIZED CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE'VE DONE ALONG THE WAY, THE VERY ONE ON THE TOP WAS OUR GRAINS MIXED PROVIDER.
AGAIN, THIS WAS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS.
I WAS AGAIN, BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THE VENDOR THAT WE HAD CHOSEN COULD NOT CREATE A GREENS MIX THAT MET OUR ARCHITECT SPECIFICATIONS.
SO WE NEEDED TO FIND A NEW PROVIDER FOR THAT.
UH, AND WE FOUND THEM OUT OF KANSAS AND THEY CAME TO WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE TO US, BUT AGAIN, THOSE MET THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WERE NEEDED FOR THE GRAINS.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE DID.
AND THOSE OF YOU, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMORIAL, WE SPOKE ABOUT THE OIL SEPARATOR.
THAT'S ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE VETTING THIS PROJECT, WE THOUGHT WITH THE ELECTRIC CARTS, WE MAY NOT NEED THAT OIL SEPARATOR DOWN IN THE CART BARN, DRAINAGE AREA, BUT AS WE MOVE ALONG AND IF I'M NO LONGER HERE AND WE WERE TO EVER CHOOSE TO GO WITH GAS CARTS OR OTHER VEHICLES, IT'S WISE TO KEEP CONTAMINANTS OUT OF OUR STORMWATER.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE.
SO, SO FAR KICKING BURKE GOLF PROJECT TO DATE, UH, THE CLUBHOUSE PROJECT SEEN ABOUT 143,000 AND CHANGES THE GREENS AND IRRIGATION PROJECT 341,000 AND CHANGES FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 485,000 AND CHANGES ROUGHLY 2.6 OF THE INITIAL PROJECT COST OF 17,977,000.
YOU PUT THE CHANGE ORDERS TO THAT WORD ABOUT 18 MILLION, 464,000, WHICH LEAVES US AN ACCOUNT BALANCE OF ROUGHLY $35,000.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME CHANGES THAT ARE COMING UP ONCE AGAIN, ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS ACTUALLY A CHANGE ORDER THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU SHORTLY, IF APPROVED THIS EVENING, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS TO RECONNECT THE LIGHTING FOR ALL OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
WHEN WE WENT TO DEMO ALL OF THE TENNIS COURTS, NONE OF THE ELECTRIC WAS REALLY ON ANY PLANS OR SEEN.
AND SO WHEN WE STRUCK THROUGH A LOT OF LINES, WE HAVE TO RECONNECT LIGHTS, PANELS, CONTROLS.
AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING IN FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURT THAT IS LEFT UP BY OUR PARKING LOT IN THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF COURTS THAT ARE DOWN ALONG BRYANT.
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THESE PROJECT OVERAGES, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE, IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK, THE ARCHITECT TRIES TO IDENTIFY AREAS OF DISTURBANCE, WHICH ARE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE GRAINS LIKE THIS ON NUMBER FOUR, WHICH HAS ALL OF THE DIRT WITH NO SOD AS THOSE AREAS EXPAND, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH VEHICLES OR EXTENDED CART TRAILS OR EXTENDED TEE BOX AREAS, THOSE AREAS OF DISTURBANCE GROW IN THAT CAUSES WHAT WE CALL PROJECT OVERAGES.WE'VE HAD THOSE GPS TRACKS SO FAR.
AND SO FAR THROUGH THE PROJECT, WE'VE IDENTIFIED ABOUT $154,000 WORTH OF CHANGES AT THIS POINT OR OVERAGES, I SHOULD SAY, WE HOPE WE DON'T HIT THE 200,000 MARK, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST PUTTING IN THAT AS A SAFETY NET TO SEE WHERE WE MAY END UP WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE ON THE OVERAGES OF THE GOLF COURSE PROJECT, THE ADDING THE GARAGE DOORS, ET CETERA, TO THE RANGE PAVILION.
IF YOU REMEMBER BACK ON THIS PICTURE, AND THIS IS ONE OF MY LITTLE RECOMMENDATIONS IS IF YOU SEE THE RANGE PAVILION ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, IN THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT AS AN OPEN RANGE PAVILION.
WELL, APRIL CAME THROUGH AND THE WINDS WERE GOING ABOUT 30 TO 40 MILES AN HOUR EVERY DAY.
AND AS WE TALK ABOUT DOING A RANGE ENTERTAINMENT WHERE YOU WOULD COME OUT AND ENJOY FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND SIT DOWN AND WATCH YOUR FAMILY HIT SHOTS MUCH LIKE A TOP GOLF EXPERIENCE, THAT WOULD NOT BE THAT ENJOYABLE.
IF WE HAD WINDS GOING THROUGH THERE, WE SPECIFICALLY ENCLOSED THE SOUTH END TO BLOCK THE WIND, BUT THAT WEST WIND WAS COMING THROUGH THERE PRETTY HARD.
WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OR NOT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS AT THAT ADDITIONAL COST TO DO THAT.
SO WITH THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST, THE IDENTIFIABLE FUTURE CHANGES, WE HAVE PUT IN A LITTLE CONTINGENCY FOR INCREASING COSTS AND POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE.
AS WE MOVE INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS, THE TOTAL SUPPLEMENTAL SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION REQUEST IS $650,000.
I WILL TELL YOU IF YOU READ THROUGH YOUR MEMO, WHICH I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE.
THE ORIGINAL QUEST REQUEST WAS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH UPPER MANAGEMENT, THEY FELT MORE COMFORTABLE TRYING TO ASK TO COVER WHAT WE REALLY ARE ANTICIPATING IN MOVING FORWARD.
AS ANDY PUT IN THE MEMO, NOT GOING TO BE MANY OTHER VALUE ADDED REQUESTS TO GO THROUGH CHANGE ORDERS, AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE, AND AS THERE'S GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE DO.
SO, WE REALIZED THAT THE CIP FUND HAS TO FUND OTHER PROJECTS OTHER THAN THE GOLF COURSE.
SO WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL BE DOING THOSE CHANGES THAT EITHER BRING US TO CODE OR ARE REQUIRED TO AT LEAST GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
AND WE MAY HAVE TO FIND ALTERNATIVE SOURCES FOR INSTANCE, THE GARAGE DOORS.
IF THEY COME IN SUPER EXPENSIVE, WE MAY DO THAT DOWN THE ROAD AS AN, TO THAT INDOOR, UH, TO THAT DRIVING RANGE PAVILION.
SO WITH THIS 650 SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS WITH THE ACTUAL CHANGE ORDERS, WE WOULD BE SITTING AT ABOUT 1,000,100 35,000, ABOUT 6.3% DO REALIZE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGH FOR STANDARD CHANGE ORDERS, BUT I BELIEVE A LOT OF THESE CHANGES A WERE NECESSARY AND B REALLY BRING VALUE TO THE PROJECT.
AND SO THAT'S, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO VOTE ON FOR THOSE.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS TAKES US TO ABOUT A $19.1 MILLION COST OF THE PROJECT.
AS I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE.
UM, I KNOW YOU HAVE PUT THROUGH STRATEGIC INITIATIVES, AND AGAIN, I'VE SPOKEN WITH A FEW OF YOU ABOUT WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING GREEN RATE GREEN FEE RATE STRUCTURES TO COVER OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
I KNOW THAT IN PREVIOUS COUNCILS AND ONE OF OUR DEAL, UH, ONE OF OUR TASKS AS THE GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT IS AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, MAKE SURE WE COVER OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES TO INCLUDE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S I NEED NEW CARTS, BRAD NEEDS NEW FAIRWAY UNITS.
WE WILL BE FUNDING THOSE THROUGH OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES.
AS I WAS SHARING WITH A FEW OF YOU, IF THE WILLIAM GALLON WATER TANK SPRINGS A LEAK IN THE BOTTOM OF IT, HOPEFULLY WE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE CITY SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THOSE LARGER ASSET REPLACEMENTS, JUST LIKE THIS GOLF COURSE PROJECT, BUT EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES WILL BE COVERED THROUGH OUR GRAIN FEE AND REVENUE STREAMS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE ANOTHER, ANOTHER DISCUSSION I HAD AND I'LL GET AWAY, BUT, UM, WAS ABOUT POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THAT DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOLF TEAMS. I THINK I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE THERE'S 18 GOLF TEAMS AND THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO EVEN IF WE CREATED A PARTNERSHIP, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO HOST ALL OF THOSE TEAMS, BUT WE COULD, WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO MAYBE PARTNER WITH UCO, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH THE PROFESSIONAL GOLF MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OR THEIR GOLF TEAMS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN DOING THAT, NO MATTER WHAT, WE WILL STILL BE A COURSE THAT THE COLLEGES AND THE HIGH SCHOOLS WILL PRACTICE AT FALL AND SPRING EACH AND EVERY YEAR.
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HOW DOES THAT WORK QUESTIONS, BRIAN, UM, REVENUE WISE, WE JUST, WE USED TO CHARGE THEM A SCHOOL FEE, WHICH WAS A MINIMAL FEE IN THE FALL CAUSE THEY WERE ONLY OUT THREE DAYS A WEEK AND IT'S A PER STUDENT FEE AND THEN A LITTLE LARGER IN THE SPRING, CAUSE THEY'RE OUT FOR FOUR, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING SO THAT WE'RE FAIR TO ALL SCHOOLS IS DOING WHAT THE OKLAHOMA CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DO, AND THAT IS CHARGED ON A USAGE BASIS, BUT CHARGE A SCHOOL FEE, WHICH IS A MUCH REDUCED FEE OFF OF WHAT A JUNIOR FEE WOULD BE.SO STILL TRYING TO PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS IN THAT ASPECT, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE AS A MEMBERSHIP FEE OF FOR INSTANCE, $200 PER STUDENT IS WHAT WE WERE DOING IN THE SPRING FOR EVERY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.
WELL, THAT'S A BARGAIN WHEN YOU SEE HOW MANY TIMES THEY'RE OUT THERE PRACTICING, APPLYING, WE STILL HAVE THOSE TYPE OF PARTNERSHIPS, BUT IT WILL BE MAINLY ON A PER USE BASIS AND DO IT THAT WAY.
SO THAT ALL SCHOOLS, WHETHER IT'S OKLAHOMA, CHRISTIAN SCHOOL, OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, OR WHOEVER WAS STILL UTILIZE THE FACILITY, A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE SEEING EDMONDSON A COURT.
THEY HAVE A PROGRAM FOR, UH, FOR CHALLENGED, FOR CHALLENGED CITIZENS AND, AND, AND EVEN A PROGRAM FOR UNDERSERVED.
AND I HAVE SEEN THAT AT EDMOND SOCCER CLUB TOO.
HOW DO YOU FIT THAT INTO GOLF? WELL, AND, UH, CURRENTLY BEFORE WE SHUT DOWN, WE WERE AN AFFILIATE COURSE FOR THE FIRST TEE PROGRAM OF METRO OKLAHOMA CITY.
THEY LOOK FOR PARTNERS, THEY HAVE THE MAIN CAMPUS IS DOWN OFF OF 10TH STREET IN OKLAHOMA CITY, BUT IN THE SURROUNDING METRO AREAS, WE WERE, WE WERE THE COURSE THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR COURSES FOR THE AFFILIATE.
AND THEN MYSELF AND ONE OF MY ASSISTANTS, WE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS PROGRAM, BUT NOW THAT'S ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
SO AS YOU AND I WERE SPEAKING ABOUT EARLIER, COULD WE EXPAND IT TO MORE GOLF INSTRUCTION, HITTING A LARGER NUMBER OF KIDS? WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT RATHER THAN JUST DOING IT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
YEAH, I THINK I SHARED WITH YOU, UM, THAT LOVE THE GOLF COURSE, TOURISM ECONOMIC IMPACT.
UH, GOLF IS DEFINITELY POPULAR IN EDMOND AND OKLAHOMA.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD, WOULD ARGUE WITH THAT, BUT WE ALSO CAN'T GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT IT'S JUST FOR THE PRIVILEGED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO TAX DOLLARS HELPED PAY FOR THIS WONDERFUL FACILITY FOR, FOR, FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR TOWN AND, AND APPRECIATE THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX FOR BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE THING YOU'VE HEARD FROM ME FROM THE START IS REALLY TRYING TO MARKET THIS FACILITY AS MORE OF A COMMUNITY-BASED FACILITY TO WHERE THAT SPECIAL EVENT CENTER CAN HOST A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EVENTS.
AND EVEN IF IT'S FOOD, TRUCK EVENINGS AND, YOU KNOW, WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION PARTIES, THOSE ARE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN HOST NOW AT THE GOLF COURSE WITH, ESPECIALLY THE GOLF ENTERTAINMENT SIDE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A GREGG GOLFER TO GO ENJOY TOP GOLF.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AND BRING TO KICKING BIRD AS WELL.
BUT BACK TO YOUR WHERE WE'RE LOOKING INTO THOSE, HOW CAN WE REACH THOSE SPECIALIZED IN EVEN LIKE MILITARY VETERANS, I'VE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED BY A FOLDS OF HONOR REPRESENTATIVE THAT WANTS TO HOST THEIR FUNDRAISING EVENT AT KICKING BERG ONCE WE REOPENED.
AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT COST TO GET BEHIND, WHICH IS THE FOLDS OF HONOR FOUNDATION.
SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS GAVE SPECIAL RATES FOR VETERANS.
WE DO NOT, WE ACTUALLY OFFER FREE GOLF ON VETERANS DAY, BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO ON TOURNAMENTS.
HOW DOES IT GENERATE REVENUE FOR YOU? TOURNAMENTS ARE A WONDERFUL REVENUE GENERATOR FOR US.
AND IT'S ALSO A GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS WE WILL CHARGE THE TOURNAMENT.
FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY $60 A PLAYER.
WELL, ANYBODY THAT PLAYS IN A TOURNAMENT KNOWS THE TERMINAL CHARGE YOU ABOUT 125.
SO ALL OF THAT MONEY GOES TO THOSE FUNDRAISING EFFORTS FOR WHETHER IT BE A NONPROFIT, A SCHOOL OR A CORPORATE FUNDRAISER.
AND WE DO A NUMBER OF THOSE MAYOR.
WE DO ABOUT 60 TO 65 OF THOSE EVENTS PER YEAR.
AND WITH THIS SPECIAL EVENTS CENTER, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ATTRACT SOME OF THOSE LARGER EVENTS, UM, THAT CAN HELP RAISE MONEY FOR CAUSES SUCH AS THAT VERY GOOD.
WE LIKE OUR OTHER GOLF COURSES IN TOWN, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT THAT MANY OTHERS ARE THERE THAT, I MEAN FOR DEMAND WELL, AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, YOU KNOW, COFFEE CREEK CLOSED.
AND SO THERE'S ONLY TWO PUBLIC GOLF COURSES IN EDMUND ROSE CREEK USED TO BE SEMI-PRIVATE AND NOW THEY'VE GONE COMPLETELY PRIVATE.
SO UP IN OUR AREA, IT IS US AND GOLF CLUB OF BEEN ARE THE TWO PUBLIC FACILITIES.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, IN A PREVIOUS, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SOME OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TO TRANSPORT STUDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, VALLEY UP IN GUTHRIE TO PRACTICE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT COURSES HERE IN EDMOND TO HOST THOSE PRACTICES.
SO THERE'S TWO PUBLIC COURSES HERE IN EDMOND WARD, ONE OF THEM.
[2. Approval of Supplemental Appropriation for Cemetery Budget; $7,000.00.]
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ON, UH, ITEM AND WAS THE ITEM RIGHT AFTER THAT? UM, SO WOULD IT HAVE BEEN CEMETERY BUDGET? YEAH, THE QUESTION I HAD, I SAW IN THE PACKET THAT THOSE FEES WERE COMING FROM, I WANT TO SAY BANK MAINLY BANK CHARGES, CREDIT CARD FEES.AND I JUST, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, MAYBE I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE PROGRAM, BUT I WANTED TO MAYBE ASK IF, IF, UH, OUR SALES ARE COVERING THOSE FEES.
CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A SHORTAGE RIGHT NOW.
AND IT IS A UNIQUE SITUATION RELATED TO THE, UM, SALES THAT WE'VE, UM, HAD DUE TO LOTS IN COLUMBARIUM SALES, UM, WITH THE OPENING OF THE NEW, NEW PORTION OF THE CEMETERY.
SO, UM, WHEN SOMEBODY BUYS MAKES A PURCHASE THERE AT THE CEMETERY, THERE'S A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
IF WE PROCESS A CREDIT CARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THOSE FEES ARE FIGURED INTO THE COSTS THAT ARE CHARGED AND PASSED ON TO THOSE WHO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES.
ANY OTHER ITEMS NEEDED FOR DISCUSSION? IS IT ON THESE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS FOR A 1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE COUNCIL LIKE TO DO, MOVE TO APPROVE FOR A ONE THROUGH FIVE SECOND MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[1. Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No._______ Amending Title 15 Of The Edmond Municipal Code, Sign Regulations, Chapter 15.25 – Industrial And Commercial Sign Standards, By Adding New Section 15.25.115 Temporary Business Promotion Signs Within A Qualifying Construction Project Work Zone And By Amending Chapter 15.25A. Signs Within The I-35 Corridor By Adding New Section 15.25A.125 Temporary Business Promotion Signs Within A Qualifying Construction Project Work Zone To Provide That A Permit Will Not Be Required While A City Or State Roadway Construction Zone Is Located Immediately Adjacent To A Business; And Providing For Repealer And Severability.]
NEXT IS CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE RESOLUTION, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39 0 2 39 0 2 AMENDING TITLE 15 OF THE EDMOND MUNICIPAL CODE SIGN REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 15 POINT 25, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL SCIENCE STANDARDS BY ADDING NEW SECTION 15 POINT 25.115 TEMPORARY BUSINESS PROMOTION SCIENCE WITHIN A QUALIFYING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WORK ZONE.AND BY AMENDING CHAPTER 15 POINT 25, A SIGNS WITHIN THE
MR. SMITH WANTED TO DISCUSS THIS.
SO, UM, EXCUSE ME, STAFF WAS ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TEMPORARY BUSINESS PROMOTIONAL, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, AND AREAS WHERE WE HAVE LONG-TERM CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AND THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT, UH, SIX MONTHS OR LONGER, WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR SAY AN INTERSECTION PROJECT, WHICH CAN TAKE UP TO 12 MONTHS TO COMPLETE AND WHERE WE HAVE BUSINESSES LOCATED ADJACENT, UH, IN THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE TO THESE PROJECTS, UH, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO PUT UP TEMPORARY, UH, BUSINESS PROMOTIONAL SIGNS, UM, FOR THE DURATION OF THAT PROJECT, THEY CAN PUT UP THE FIVE SIGNS THAT WOULD NOT BE A PERMIT REQUIRED AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THE FEE.
UM, SO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE AFFECTED WOULD BE IN THE, UH, WITHIN THE OFFICIAL LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AND FOR THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT.
UM, ALSO AS PART OF THIS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPROVING OUR COMMUNICATION PROCESS TO BUSINESSES.
UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, WE WILL STAFF AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTOR GO AROUND AND VISIT WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES, COLLECT EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM THEM.
WE WILL PROVIDE THEM CONTACT INFORMATION FOR STAFF AS WELL AS FOR THE CONTRACTOR, UM, AND IN DOING SO WE CAN PROVIDE, UH, PROJECT UPDATES ON A REGULAR BASIS AS APPROPRIATE TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED TO THIS POINT.
AND WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT AND ALSO PROVIDE THE MEANS OF, UH, EASY COMMUNICATION BACK TO US.
UM, AND OF COURSE DURING THAT PROCESS, WE'LL INFORM THEM OF THIS SIGN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO GO FIRST, JUST LOOK AT EACH OTHER.
SO AT, AT A PROJECT THAT WE COMPLETED A FEW YEARS AGO AT SANTA FE IN COALVILLE, THERE WOULDN'T, THIS WOULDN'T APPLY BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUSINESSES CORRECT
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IN THAT AREA.BUT IF WE WERE AT, UM, SECOND AND BRYANT WOULD BE A PRIME LOCATION, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE SIZE OF THE SIGNS ARE THEY, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE UNDER THE CODE OF WHAT THE TEMPORARY SITE COULD BE NOW.
ALL THE REGULATIONS OF THE TEMPORARY SIGN, UH, ORDINANCE WOULD STILL BE IN A PLACE HAVING TO DO WITH THE SIGN SIZE, THE NUMBER, NOT THE NUMBER.
THE NUMBER OF SIGNS AND THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNS.
SO ALL THE OTHER REGULATIONS WILL STILL BE IN PLACE.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE TO FILE FOR A PERMIT TO DO IT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET A PERMIT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FEE.
AND SO THERE'S STILL REGULATIONS ON IT.
YOU'RE STILL CONTROLLING IT, WATCHING IT, MAKING SURE THAT THE SIGNS AREN'T TOO BIG, TOO CLOSE TO THE ROAD, ET CETERA, CORRECT.
AND REMOVED WHEN THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
ONCE WE, ONCE WE REACHED A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AS DETERMINED BY THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING.
DO I REMEMBER THAT SECOND BRYANT, WAS THERE A MARQUEE TYPE ROAD SIGN THAT WAS ANNOUNCING THE PROJECT COMING? NO, WE PUT OUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE SIGNS OUT THERE.
INSTRUCTION WAS COMING AND WE HAD THAT OUT THERE FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND ADVANCE IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
WOULD WE, WOULD WE, YOU THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE WOULD DO THAT AGAIN FOR PROJECT COMPARABLE TO THAT.
WE LIKE TO PUT THOSE VARIABLE MESSAGE SIGNS OUT AS OFTEN AS WE CAN.
I THOUGHT I'D REMEMBERED THAT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON, UH, GOING AND VISITING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND, AND BEING PROACTIVE AND ANNOUNCING IT TO THEM.
BUT I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL AS WELL BECAUSE IT, AND WHAT I WAS THINKING IN MY MIND IS, YOU KNOW, PROJECT STARTS AND THAT IT MIGHT TAKE TWO WEEKS TO GET A TEMPORARY SIGN PAID, TO GIVE DIRECTIONS OR CHANGE OF HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF THE MORE HEADS-UP THE BETTER, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
AND THEN ALSO VISITING WITH THEM AS WELL.
UH, ONE MORE QUESTION I HAD, AND I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT TO THE GROUP, NO DOUBT, SIX MONTHS OR MORE IS A LONG PROJECT, BUT I THINK TO A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE AREA TO ME, I MEAN ONE WEEK CAN BE REALLY LONG AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT PROPOSING ONE WEEK, BUT, UM, I'D ASKED THE QUESTION OUT LOUD IS, IS, IS THREE MONTHS THE, THE TIMELINE IS SIX MONTHS, UM, UH, TO, UH, EXTREME.
I MEAN, DOES IT, DO WE, DO WE DO A LOT OF GOOD AT, AT THREE MONTHS AND IS THAT, TO ME, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY LONG PROJECT.
IF I OWNED A RETAIL STORE AT AN INTERSECTION LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY A SMALL BUSINESS, WELL, MAJORITY OF THEM ARE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT I'D ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
UH, BUT ALSO I LOOK AT THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT STAFF DOES TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S FLOW INTO THAT AREA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SECOND.
AND BRIAN IS AN ANOMALY BECAUSE OF THAT.
TO ME, IT IS I'M GOING TO PUT MY ENGINEER HAT ON RIGHT NOW OF THE TIGHT CONSTRAINT, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE, OR OUR LARGER, LARGER MEANING AND SCALE THAT THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY.
UH, WELL, I ALSO LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS IS THAT WE'RE TRYING SOMETHING NEW HERE.
IF WE COME BACK AND SEE JUST LIKE IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID SECOND AND BRIAN, WHEN DID WE DO IT? WE SAT UP HERE AND SAID, OH, WE HAVE PLEASE AVOID SECOND.
AND BRIAN, WELL, THAT WAS, THAT WAS BAD ON MY PART TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT PROHIBITED PEOPLE FROM GOING TO SECOND O'BRIEN, WHICH MEANT THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GO AND GET THE NAILS DONE.
THEY WERE GOING TO BUY THE DONUTS, STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH HARM THAT AREA.
AND SO THEN I CHANGED MY MESSAGE OF SAYING THAT'S STILL PATRONIZE THOSE AREAS.
AND SO THIS IS IF WE COME BACK LATER TO FIND OUT THAT, THAT THIS, THERE IS SOME IMPACT THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
I THINK IF WE CAN READDRESS IT AGAIN.
JIM, COULD WE SAY IT'S SIX MONTHS AND OR AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY ENGINEER, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TRIED TO PROVIDE A BALANCE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
THEY COULD SAY AT JUST, IT'S NOT AUTOMATICALLY THREE MONTHS, IT'S SIX MONTHS, BUT HEY, YOU CAN HAVE DISCRETION AS TO THE MIX.
AN ENGINEER SAYS, WHO ME A SIGNIFICANT, PROJECT'S NOT GOING TO BE SIX MONTHS, BUT MAYBE IT'S THREE TO FOUR MONTHS POSITION COULD SAY DISCRETION TO SAY, YEAH, IT MIGHT NOT BE A SIX MONTH PROJECT, BUT BE SOMETHING THAT'S A CASE WHERE IT'S IT'S AS INCONVENIENT AS, AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD
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TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME AND COULD BE YOUR DISCRETION.UH, STEVE MANNEQUIN, HE HAS IN COMMON.
I MEAN, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
IT COULD BE A SMALL PROJECT AND WE CAN GET TWO WEEKS WORTH OF RAIN THAT CAN MAKE IT, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT.
WE'LL DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO DO.
AND I WOULD, I MEAN, EVEN IF THAT WAS THE CASE, IT WOULD STILL, THE SIGNAGE WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE GONE WHEN THE PROJECT IS OVER.
SO IT'S NOT GIVING THE SIGNAGE NECESSARILY ANYMORE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, WHAT, WHAT AMOUNT OF TIME IS THAT, THAT IT STARTS TO REALLY HURT? WELL, AND THEN I THINK THE MAJOR CONCERN FOR SOME FOLKS WAS SAFETY, ARE THE SIGNS GOING TO BLOCK THE VIEWS.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS CHECKING TO SEE IF THAT IS STILL IN EFFECT THAT THE SCIENCE CAN NOT BLOCK THE VIEW, THE VIEWS OF THE TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT.
AND SO I THINK AS LONG AS THE ORDINANCES ARE STILL FOLLOWED BY THAT, AND THEY'RE WATCHING THAT, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE FINE.
SO THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE, WHEN DOES THE CLOCK START? DOES IT, IS IT ISN'T A CONTINUOUS CLOCK OR MOTHER NATURE COMES IN? DOES THE CLOCK STOP? NO, IT WOULD CONTINUE.
I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT DELAY DUE TO RAIN, RIGHT.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WE WOULDN'T ASK THEM TO TAKE DOWN THE SIGNS TEMPORARILY AND PUT A PROJECT OVER.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, THE TIMELINE IS THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, NOT SIX MONTHS OR WHATEVER THE ESTIMATE WOULD YOU SAY THE END OF THE END OF THE DAY AS THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE THREE TO THREE, THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS CAVEAT IN THERE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
I THINK SIX MONTHS IS ACTUALLY, WHAT'S ALREADY DEFINED IN THERE, CORRECT? IT IS.
BUT IF WE CAN, BUT IF WE GO FOR THE CAVEAT THAT IF BASED, GIVE IT THE DISCRETION TO THE CITY ENGINEER, IF THAT WE MIGHT ALLOW THEM TO GO TO THREE MONTHS, I WAS SITTING IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
IF THERE'S A DELAY, I'M JUST SOMETIMES ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT THE CONSCIOUS STARTS AND RUNS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN ACT OF GOD JUST TO STOP IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS.
HOW DOES THE ACT OF GOD, A RAIN LIGHT LIKE THIS ONE WOULD CAUSE A RAIN DELAY A LOT, A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS.
HOW DOES IT, DOES THAT AFFECT OUR COW? NO.
BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LIMITATION OF AT LEAST SIX MONTHS IN DURATION, AND YOU WANT TO SAY THAT THEY QUALIFY AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS A CITY OR STATE ROADWAY PROJECT AS DEFINED BY THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS, JUST THE TWO, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO TELL US WHAT NOT IT'S A QUALIFYING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT, BASICALLY UP TO THE DISCRETION, BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY, YOU'RE SAYING THE ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED, IS SAYING THE CONSTRUCTION IS DEFINED BY THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY A QUALIFYING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS ALSO DEFINED BY THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS, JUST WHATEVER IS WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES OR NOT, I WOULD SAY AT WORK AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? WELL, I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE SIX MONTHS FOR SURE.
BECAUSE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S A LONG PROJECT.
AND WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE INCONVENIENCE THERE THAT I PERSONALLY LIKED THE, I, I LIKE THE SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS OR DISCRETION OF, OF ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, AND I'M JUST GET, YOU CAN GO, JIM.
UM, I THINK THIS IS WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS AROUND SECOND AND BRYANT AND WE KNOW WHAT THAT'S DONE IN A, IN A GREAT NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT I, I KNOW THERE'S, UH, WE, WE'VE BEEN VERY PROUD AND EDMOND ABOUT GOOD SIGNAGE AND SIGNAGE REGULATIONS AND IMAGE, COMMUNITY IMAGE AND, AND CONSISTENCY WITH OUR SIZES.
AND SO I'M, I AM ALL ALL FOR THAT.
AND IT MAKES EDMUND SPECIAL IN A LOT OF WAYS, UM, AND SETS US APART FROM, FROM, FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITY IMAGE WISE.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, CONCERN OF WHETHER YOU'RE CROSSING THE LINE OR NOT.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE INTERSECTION PROJECTS ON DOWN THE ROAD, AND THESE ARE GOING TO AFFECT, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, THAT ARE IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
AND I, I JUST THINK THIS IS AN EASY THING TO DO, UH, TO LET THOSE BUSINESSES KNOW THAT WE'RE, UM, THAT WE'RE,
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WE'RE STILL FOR YOU.AND WE WANT, WANNA, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK IS AS BEST AS WE CAN DURING THIS KIND OF TOUGH TIME AND, AND TOUGH SITUATION WHILE WE DO THIS.
SO I, I THINK IT'S, I KNOW THERE'S THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES.
I JUST THINK IT'S AN EASY THING THAT WE CAN DO, AND IT SHOWS OUR SUPPORT FOR OUR BUSINESS.
I MEAN, THOSE BUSINESSES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S IT, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE CREATING TAX REVENUE TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT.
SO WHAT'S THE FINAL, UH, MY, IF I WERE TO MAKE A MOTION AND I CAN, UH, IT WOULD BE TO APPROVE AN AD, UH, AT THE, AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S AS DEFINED BY THIS WOULD BE A QUALIFYING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AS A CITY OR STATE ROADWAY PROJECT LAST, AT LEAST SIX MONTHS IN DURATION OR AS DEFINED BY THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND SIT ON THE TABLE.
[C. Approval of Purchases:]
OF PURCHASES.NEXT PROVE OF ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND LICENSES FROM SUPERIORITY, LLC, A CENTRAL SQUARE TECHNOLOGIES COMPANY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANALYSIS.
NOW ANALYTICS NOW INTEGRATING WITH FINANCIAL ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS FOR $38,500 APPROVAL OF PURCHASES FOR ADDITIONAL CABLE INSTALLATION SERVICES FROM TELCO SUPPLY COMPANY ON OKLAHOMA STATE CONTRACT, $30,000 APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER.
NUMBER ONE TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH ATLAS PAVING COMPANY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 STREET OVERLAY PROJECT $437,077 AND 94 CENTS INCREASE ACCEPTANCE OF BID 4 42 INCH SMALL AERIAL UNIT FLEET ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT PATTERNED $88,292 $188,292 UPDATING CONSIDERATION NEXT.
I MOVED TO APPROVE ITEMS FOR 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR C EXCUSE ME, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR VOTE.
IT WAS ON THIS PASS THE PURCHASE A PASS, UH, NUMBER FIVE UPDATED CONSIDERATION OF
[5. Update and consideration of direction to city staff regarding the property located at 916 Elmwood Drive, declared a public nuisance on March 14, 2022.]
DIRECTION TO THE CITY STAFF REGARDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 1 6 ELMWOOD DRIVE DECLARITY PUBLIC NUISANCE ON MARCH 14TH, 2022.ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, UH, STAFF HAS CONTINUED TO REVIEW AND GO BY THE PROPERTY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WERE TAKEN ON MAY 11TH, MAY 16TH, MAY 18TH AND MAY 23RD, UH, WOULD SHOW THE GENERAL CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, UH, FROM BASICALLY THE SAME, UH, VIEWPOINTS.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THE PROPERTY, THERE WAS MAIN PAIN.
SINCE YOUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, GENERALLY CLEAN, KEPT UP TO DATE.
SO SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE THE BACKYARD MIGHT NEED SOME LITTLE DIFFERENT, LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THE FRONT YARD IS MAIN, CONSISTENTLY CLEAN.
SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT ONE 23RD AND SHE TAKES PICTURES, LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT PICTURES, FIVE DIFFERENT NEWS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE ONE SINGLE PICTURE FIVE COPIES.
THIS IS THE CONDITION AND THIS WAS WHAT IT WAS ON THE 11TH.
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ONE OF THE 11, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR.
I DO HAVE SOME UPDATED PICTURES FROM THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE.
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THANK YOU, SIR.NOTABLY WE'VE REMOVED THE LOGS OR THE BRUSH PILE WE DID THAT AFTERNOON AND MOST OF THE BACKYARD IS JUST A LARGE FLOWER BED AREA.
THAT'S NOT GRASPED BACK THERE.
THAT'S THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF GROUND COVER.
THE ONLY GRASS WE REALLY HAVE IS RIGHT UP BY THE FENCE ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND THERE'S REALLY NO GRASS THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS IS WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS MOVING FORWARD FROM TODAY? UH, WE STILL PLAN ON SELLING THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
THE LAST TWO RAINS WE'VE HAD HAVE NOT CREATED ANY FLOODING IN THE HOUSE.
WE'VE DONE SOME MEASURES THAT HAVE, WE FEEL LIKE MAYBE HAVE ELIMINATED THAT.
AND, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO GET THE REST OF THAT INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY DONE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHY OUR PLANS ARE.
IT IS EVERYTHING MOVED OUT FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
NO, MA'AM NO, IT'S NOT ALL MOVED OUT YET.
WE STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF STUFF LEFT TO REMOVE.
I MEAN, A LOT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT NEED TO GO.
AND, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A PLACE TO STORE THOSE.
MY DAUGHTER HAS, UM, HAS A BUILDING IN FAIRFAX AND WE MAY SEND SOME OF THAT STUFF UP THERE.
SO IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED RIGHT NOW.
IT'S A LARGE, UM, MY, I GUESS MY CONCERN WAS JUST THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO MOVE FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE TO OUTSIDE, BUT HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE OUT THERE WITHOUT ONE OF US.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A KEY AND UNLESS HE BREAKS A WINDOW, HE CAN'T GET IN.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND I APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE OF THE COUNCIL APOLOGIZED FOR EVERYTHING AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT BEHIND US AND GET IT SOLD AND MOVE ON.
SO THIS IS THE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
IF MY MEMORY IS SHORT ON THIS, THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TWO WEEKS THAT WE'VE GONE, THAT THERE WASN'T A REALLY, UH, UH, UH, BACKSLID ON, ON THE PROPERTY.
IT'S CONSISTENTLY, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE EXPECTED IT TO BE IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.
SO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION, MR. MURDOCH, I THINK AT THIS TIME, UM, BRIAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK AT THIS TIME IT SEEMED GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CODE AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO THE EXTERIOR.
AND, UM, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO WATCH IT FROM A STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND I DON'T SEE A NEED TO PUT IT BACK ON AN AGENDA IN THREE WEEKS.
SO, UH, WELL, IF IT DIGRESSES, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE OUR CASE AS IT RELATES TO DECLARING THAT A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS POINT QUESTION, AND JUST SOME PROCEDURAL, WHAT HAPPENS IN FOUR WEEKS.
AND IF IT GOES BACK TO THAT NUISANCE, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE STEPS AGAIN, OF DECLARING THAT A NUISANCE AGAIN, AND OR YES, SIR, WHAT WILL, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT? AND IT WOULD TAKE A LETTER AND POSTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND PROVIDING PROOF TO THE COUNCIL THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOW IN.
IT IS ONCE AGAIN, IN THE PUPPET NUISANCE POSITION AND THE COUNCIL COULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION THE RIGHT NOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE OBSERVATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
AND FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS STAFF COULD IS SAYING TO YOU, THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
HOPEFULLY IT WON'T GO, WON'T GO BACK.
WELL, COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THAT? IS THERE SOMETHING WE NEED TO VOTE TO CONCLUDE OR, WELL, WELL, THE ITEM IS THE UPDATE IN CONSIDERATION OF DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF REGARDING THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU CAN DIRECT THE STAFF TO CONTINUE
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TO MONITOR THE PROPERTY, BUT NOT PLACE IT ON THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.OR YOU COULD ASK US TO PLACE IT ON THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL AGENDA OR SOME OTHER POINT IN TIME.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S FINE EITHER WAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO BY THERE I GO BY THERE EVERY DAY.
SO THANK YOU SIR, FOR GETTING IT CLEANED UP AND THEN PICTURES AND, AND FOR COMING EVERY TIME AND, AND EVERY CONVERSATION HASN'T BEEN PLEASANT FOR, FOR ALL OF US.
UM, BUT WE, WE GOT THERE, UM, AND APPRECIATE YOU.
YOU'RE WORKING WITH US ON THAT.
UM, IF I WERE TO, I GUESS, MAKE A MOTION THAT WOULD BE TO NOT PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA, BUT DIRECT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR.
AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT AT ANY TIME THAT YOU NEED TO COME BACK AND ASK US TO TELL YOU NOT TO MONITOR IT ANY MORE THAN I GUESS THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE IN THE FUTURE.
[6. Update and consideration of direction to city staff regarding the property located at 1300 E. Ayers (OYO Hotel), declared a public nuisance on January 24, 2022.]
NEXT ITEM IS UPDATING CONSIDERATION OF DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF REGARDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1300 EAST EHRS, THE OEO HOTEL DECLARED A PUBLIC NUISANCE ON JANUARY 24TH, 2022, MARY CASTLE.UH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS PROPERTY ALSO, UH, CONTINUED LIKE PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO.
IT WAS THE LAST TIME BEFORE YOU AND THE DIRECTION WAS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS NO LONGER RESIDING AT THE PROPERTY TO BRING IT UP TO CODE AND PRIMARILY TO GET THE FOLKS THAT WERE LIVING THERE OUT.
UM, STAFF WAS PRESENT, UH, THIS PAST THURSDAY, UM, THURSDAY.
WE WERE THERE HAD BEEN INVITED THERE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEIR COUNCIL.
AND WE HAD REPRESENTED FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT IN MY OFFICE.
UH, AND WE TOOK A TERROR, UH, SORT OF PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, MR. MCKENNA'S, THE COUNSEL FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE TO GIVE US REPORT STAFF, UH, GENERALLY OBSERVE THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, THERE'S STILL SOME ONGOING MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT ARE NECESSARY.
BUT I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BY TODAY, THERE WERE NO LONGER GOING TO BE ANY PERSONS RESIDING AT THE PROPERTY AT ALL.
UH, AND POLICE DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO MONITOR IT.
THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING, GONNA NEED TO OCCUR.
THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE.
UH, I THINK THEIR PLAN IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF APARTMENTS.
UH, AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED TO RESELL THE PROPERTY THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO TOWARD, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, UH, AS LONG AS THERE'S NO LONGER PEOPLE RESIDING THERE, UH, THEN STAFFS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR ANIMALS.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT READY TO DISMISS THE CASE AT THIS POINT, UH, BUT PROBABLY WOULD PUT IT, CONTINUE IT FOR AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT MEETING, OR MAYBE EVEN TO THE, UH, JUNE 27TH MEETING, UH, TO SEE THE PROGRESS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE ARE.
SO HOW MANY FOLKS WERE LIVING THERE THURSDAY? THERE WERE TWO OR THREE, MAYBE MR. MCKENZIE, LIKE A CLICK ADD SOME CLARITY TO IT.
UH, SO COUNCILMAN MUG, THERE WERE, UH, FOUR PEOPLE LIVING THERE AS OF THURSDAY, THREE OF THE PEOPLE WERE OUR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE.
WE HAD ONE LIVING ON EACH FLOOR.
COULD YOU EXPRESS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT, GIVEN THAT LACK OF ELEVATORS? SO THE FOURTH PERSON WAS, IT WAS NOT THERE AT OUR DESIRE.
WE HAD AN ACTION THAT WAS HEARD IN DISTRICT COURT, I GUESS IN KIND OF FED ACTION, OAKLAND COUNTY DISTRICT COURT ON WEDNESDAY THAT RESULTED IN A RESOLUTION, AGREED TO WHERE THEY VACATED WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
AND SO, BUT THEY HAVE STUFF THAT'S STILL THERE THAT WILL BE THERE.
IT'S ALLOWED TO BE THERE UNTIL THIRD, WEDNESDAY THIS WEEK.
SO THEY WERE ASKED TO LEAVE THAT DAY.
THEY AGREED TO LEAVE THAT DAY AND THEY STILL HAVE PROPERTY AT THE LOCATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BE STORED THERE UNTIL THIS COMING WEDNESDAY.
UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO OF OUR PEOPLE LIVING THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND HOUSING FOR BOTH OF THEM TO MOVE THEM OUT.
WE'D LIKE TO LEAVE ONE PERSON IN THE FACILITY AS WE COMMUNICATED THE CITY STAFF ON THURSDAY WHEN WE WERE ALL STANDING AROUND, UH, I GUESS UNDER THE PORTAL SHARE AREA BECAUSE THERE'S NO TRESPASSING SIGNS THAT ARE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AROUND THERE, BUT IT HAS A LONG HISTORY OF BEING AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE, UH, FOR PROBABLY A GOOD REASON.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE ONE SECURITY PERSON ON THE FIRST FLOOR LIVING IN THE PROPERTY UNTIL WELL, UNTIL THERE'S POTENTIALLY A FUTURE USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
UH, BUT WE'VE, I'VE TOLD MY CLIENTS, THAT'S NOT THE CONDITION THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
AND SO AFTER OUR ONE TENANT LEFT, WHO WAS ON THE THIRD FLOOR
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IN INVOLUNTARY TENANT, I GUESS, UH, WE MOVED THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE, THE FIRST FLOOR TO PROVIDE JUST KIND OF, TO BE THERE BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER TENANTS THAT ARE STORING THINGS THERE.THEY SAID, THEY'D COME BACK AND GET THEM.
AND SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A MANAGEMENT ISSUE FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION.
RIGHT? THIS SECOND, WE DID MAKE APPLICATION WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LAST WEEK TO MODIFY OR PUD TO REMOVE THE HOTEL USE WHEN WE DID THE LAST, AND IF I GET OFF THE TARGET, LET ME KNOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
UH, WHEN WE LAST MODIFIED THE ZONING, WE ADDED THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF A HOTEL THAT WAS BEFORE CUP OF Y'ALL'S TIME.
BUT THE IDEA WAS TO SHOW THAT THE CHANGE WAS COMING AS TO THE MANAGEMENT AND OWNERSHIP AND OPERATION.
AND THEN THAT NEVER REALLY BECAME A SOLUTION ANYBODY WANTED, BUT THAT WAS OUR ZONING CATEGORY.
AND SO THAT IS WITH MY NEW CLIENTS THAT ARE MANAGING THE PROPERTY.
NOW THAT'S NOT THE FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO AN, A HOUSING SITUATION THAT PROVIDES UP TO 90 UNITS OF WHAT WE WOULD ALL CONSIDER MAYBE AFFORDABLE OR MANAGEABLE HOUSING.
AND SO WE FILED A MODIFICATION TO OUR PUD LAST WEEK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS MULTIFAMILY ZONING AND TO REMOVE THE HOTEL USAGE THAT WAS ON THERE.
UH, THAT'S WHAT WE FILED LAST WEEK, AS YOU KNOW, IT TAKES ABOUT 60 DAYS FOR THAT APPLICATION TO GET TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, AND SO IN THE MEANTIME, IT'S OUR EXPECTATION TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF OF ALL DISCIPLINES, TO BRING OUR PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES.
MY OFFICE SENT AN EMAIL TO MR. MURDOCH'S OFFICE ADMITTEDLY LATE, LATE TODAY.
AND IT'S NOT A TRAP OR ANYTHING ASKING FOR AN UPDATE OF WHAT THE FINANCIAL LIABILITIES ARE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW FINANCIAL LIABILITIES ARE TYPICALLY TRACKED SOMETIMES OR BY INDIVIDUALS.
AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE BY PROPERTIES.
I BELIEVE THIS SITUATION HAS BOTH.
THE PREVIOUS OPERATOR HAS PERSONAL LIABILITIES AND THEN THE PROPERTY IS OBVIOUSLY TIED TO SOME, UH, VIOLATIONS THAT RE HAD CITATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
SO IT'S OUR DESIRE TO KIND OF ATTACK ALL THE FRONTS THAT EXISTS A FINANCIAL LIABILITIES WITH THE CITY, ANY SORT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OR VIOLATION ISSUES.
AND WHAT CAME UP ON THURSDAY LAST WEEK WAS ANY MODIFICATIONS GOING FORWARD OF COURSE, WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH ANY PERMIT.
SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE PULLED FOR ANY REMODELING OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT GOES FORWARD.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT SITS AS WE SIT HERE RIGHT NOW, AND MY CLIENTS WILL GET AN UPDATE FOR ME TONIGHT OR TOMORROW MORNING AS TO WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT.
SO, SO YOU, YOU SAID THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER OWNERSHIP CHANGE.
NOW, THE, THE, THE TRANSITION THAT GOT ME BACK INVOLVED BACK IN MARCH WAS THAT THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL WE HAVE THE DIAL FOR.
THEY KIND OF GOT STOPPED ON HIS LAST TIME.
UH, THE FAMILY MEMBER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, WHO HAS THE CAPITAL INVESTOR IS BACK IN CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY RETURNED FROM OUT OF THE COUNTRY AFTER 13 YEARS.
AND THAT'S HOW I GOT BACK INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS BACK IN MARCH.
I FIRST MET WITH MR. MURDOCH ON MARCH 15TH.
UH, AND SO WE HAVE SOME CONSEQUENCES FROM THE PREVIOUS MANAGEMENT.
THERE WAS ALSO A FAMILY MEMBER, BUT IT'S NO LONGER IN ANY SORT OF POSITION OF AUTHORITY OR CONTROL.
QUITE FRANKLY, ANYTIME THAT PERSON'S NAME COMES UP, IT'S USUALLY A BAD SITUATION FOR ME BECAUSE I'M HAVING TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING FROM THE PAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH RESPECT TO IT.
SO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PERSON THAT WAS IN CONTROL PREVIOUSLY.
I CAN GIVE YOU A LOT OF ANECDOTAL EXAMPLES, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO YOU ASKED ME COUNCILMAN MCGUIRE.
SO THAT'S RESPONSIBLE, YOU JUST SAID IN YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT, SOMETHING ABOUT A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP.
I APOLOGIZE ABOUT USE THE WRONG TERM RESPECT.
SO WE DO HAVE TWO FOLKS LIVING THERE NOW, UM, WHO ARE EMPLOYED BY THE OWNER.
SO WHAT WE DID HAVE, I'M SORRY.
WE DID HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING THERE ALL WERE FORMER TENANTS.
RIGHT? AND THEN WE FELT LIKE THEY WERE QUALITY PEOPLE AND WE PROVIDE A BENEFIT AND WE COULD HAVE A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP.
SO WE ASKED THEM TO STAY WHILE WE WERE HAVING THIS TRANSITION OF PEOPLE IN AND OUT OR NOT IN HOPEFULLY, BUT OUT.
AND SO ONCE WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION LAST MONTH AND YOU REITERATED THE REASONABLE POSITION OF THE CITY, HEY, WHY IS ANYBODY IN THIS PLACE? RIGHT.
SO WE FELT LIKE IT WAS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SECURITY ISSUES.
AND SO ONCE WE HAD ALL THE INVOLUNTARY TENANTS OUT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR OTHER LONG-TERM TENANT WHO IS HELPING US OUT AND WE'RE TRANSITIONING THE OTHER TWO OUT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR ONE PERSON TO OCCUPY THE PROPERTY, THAT'D BE OUR PREFERENCE.
AND I KNOW WE COULD DO THAT AND WE COULD RUN A FOUL OF ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PLAYS OUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S OUR DESIRE.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE HERE AT YOUR PLEASURE.
WELL, WE DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY LIVING IN THERE INITIALLY BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY
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AND THE TRANSIENT CONTROL AND THE SAFETY AND ALL THAT, UH, SAFETY OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTS LIVE IN THEIR SAFETY OF OUR RESORT.UH, WHAT I HEAR YOU ASKING IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ALLOW, OR HOWEVER THAT'S DONE A SECURITY PERSON TO LIVE THERE TOO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS STILL HAPPEN, THAT THERE THERE'S STILL A SAFETY PERIMETER AROUND THE AREA AND NO ADDITIONAL DAMAGE HAS DONE TO THE PROPERTY AND ALL THAT.
AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY HELP REDUCE THE, OUR OVERSIGHT BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SURE THE COST OF CONTROL.
HYDRO BY THEIR OWN, WENT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT THIS MORNING, AROUND 10 O'CLOCK OR SO.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE ON SITE DURING THE DAY, MOST DAYS DOING SOMETHING, UH, DANNY FRANKS IS OUR NEW PROPERTY MANAGER.
HE'S THERE VIRTUALLY EVERY DAY.
HE WAS THERE AT OUR MEETING THURSDAY.
UH, AND I BELIEVE IT'S ACCURATE TO SAY THE POLICE ACTIVITY AT THE PROPERTY HAS VIRTUALLY DWINDLED DIVERT TO NOTHING.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO BE THERE CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD LEAD TO THAT.
WE DO BELIEVE IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY, NOT JUST DRIVING THROUGH EVERY COUPLE HOURS AT NIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE SOMEONE IN THE BUILDING, UH, IS, IS PRUDENT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, I GUESS I I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL CODE VIOLATIONS ARE STILL IN EXISTENCE.
AND REALLY IF THERE IS A DANGER TO THAT RESIDENT LIVING THERE, UM, OR A DANGER TO FIRST RESPONDERS STILL, I MEAN, I IS THERE HAVE, HAVE MANY OF THE CODE VIOLATIONS BEEN CORRECTED AND IT, DO WE CONSIDER IT A SAFE PLACE FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT.
WHAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THIS INDIVIDUAL ON THE PROPERTY? UM, WELL I THINK THAT IF I UNDERSTAND MR. MCKENNA'S, HE'S BASICALLY ASKING FOR A CARETAKER TO LIVE AT THE PROPERTY WHILE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE AS TO FORD'S OPERATION.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, THERE WERE STILL SOME THAT AGAIN, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HASN'T GIVEN ME AN IN-DEPTH REPORT ON WHAT THEY FOUND ON THURSDAY.
UM, THE LIGHTS ARE FUNCTIONING OF ELEVATORS, AREN'T FUNCTIONING, BUT IT SEEMED TO BE THE FIRE ALARMS WERE FUNCTIONING AS I UNDERSTOOD IT.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I KNOW.
UM, SO IS THAT PROPOSING, IF THAT PERSON, IF ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE WILL BE LIVING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AT FIRST GLANCE, I UNDERSTAND HAVING ONE PERSON THERE FOR SECURITY AND THE HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY AND, AND WHEN NO DOUBT WHEN THERE'S A LIGHT ON, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CAN KEEP BAD THINGS AWAY IN VANDALISM AND, AND HAVING SECURITY THERE.
SO I DON'T, UM, HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH ONE PERSON BEING THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
IF, IF CODE IS SAFETY CODE IS MET FOR ANYBODY TO BE, TO BE LIVING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
SO THAT'S, I, I WOULD JUST, LIKE KRISTEN SAID, I, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY HATE FOR SOMETHING BAD TO HAPPEN AT THAT BUILDING THAT EMERGENCY WISE OR FIRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND THAT BEYOND ON OUR SHOULDERS.
AND SO I DON'T WANT THAT AT ALL.
AND NEITHER DO YOU, NO, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE PURPOSE OF IDENTIFYING AND BUSINESS OF BARTERING VALUE OF LIFE OR SAFETY, BUT IT'S NICE TO HAVE A PERSON THERE THAT IN THE EVENT, SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN.
THERE IS A FIRE OR THERE'S SOME SORT OF INCIDENT REQUIRES OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE HAVE SOMEONE ON SITE, WHO'S ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INTELLIGENCE TO WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON.
THAT'S POSTED TO COMING INTO A VACANT, POTENTIALLY VACANT, POTENTIALLY NOT VACANT BUILDING THAT UNDER SOME SORT OF DISTRESS.
BUT AGAIN, I'M MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT I BELIEVE IN, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO VALUE WHAT MIGHT BE A CODE ISSUE.
I I'VE BEEN TO THE PROPERTY SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION WHEN WE HAVE HOUSING THAT IS THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP ON THE LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS AND EDMUND BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT.
AND SO YOU GO IN THIS PROPERTY AND IT'S LIKE, YEAH, I PROBABLY LIVED, THIS WAS NICER THAN THE ATO HOUSE.
AND I WAS THERE, BUT I'M PROBABLY NOT SIGNED UP TO LIVE THERE TOMORROW.
BUT, UH, IT DOES APPEAR TO BE CLEAN.
WHAT WE TOLD THE STAFF THAT WERE THERE LAST WEEK, BECAUSE THERE WAS PROBABLY A DOZEN OR SO EDMONDS, UH, DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP OR DIFFERENT CODE PEOPLE WAS I WE'RE INVITING YOU TO COME HERE AND WE WANT YOUR INPUT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT TODAY IS A KIND OF A, UH, A WHITE GLOVE INSPECTION, BUT WE'RE WANTING TO COMMUNICATE TRANSPARENCY AND OPENNESS TO WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE WE CAN TELL YOU WITH A STRAIGHT FACE.
WE FEEL LIKE IT'S PRUDENT TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FOR THE REASONS WE THINK.
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BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING AND YOU GUYS HAVE US, UH, UNDER APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES.SO, SO TODD, WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN HISTORY WITH ONE PERSON THAT'S BEEN AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
ONE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN IN CONTROL, ONE PERSON OR AN ENTITY OR SOME TYPE OF MANAGEMENT, THAT'S BEEN IN CONTROL IN THE PAST.
AND WE'VE, AND WE HAVE HISTORY THERE AND WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT CONSISTENT HISTORY OF KIND OF REPEATING, UH, AT LEAST ONCE REPEATING THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN.
SO IF, IF YOU WERE, IF YOU WERE IN OUR SHOES, WHAT WOULD, AND WE WANT, WE MIGHT BE THINKING IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO KNOW THAT, UH, LEGALLY, LEGALLY THERE IS THERE'S DIFFERENT, UH, CONTROL AND MANAGEMENT THERE.
WHAT IF YOU'RE IN OUR SHOES, WHAT WOULD YOU ASK FOR TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A CHANGE IN, IN MANAGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP THERE? THAT'S INTERESTING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PRIVATE ENTITY DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, OBVIOUSLY IN THIS CASE, IT'S AN LLC.
UH, UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPRESENT, UH, TRUTHFULLY, UH, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH THE ENTITY AND WHO HAS THE MANAGERIAL AUTHORITY FOR THAT ENTITY? UH, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE, THE FORMER MANAGER OF THIS ENTITY, AND SHE'S NO LONGER ENGAGED OR INVOLVED AND I WOULDN'T BE ENGAGED OR INVOLVED IF SHE WERE OKAY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH TO YOU, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, SO I'M DEALING WITH NOW, DR.
NERULLA, OKAY, THAT'S HIS NAME? AND SO THIS IS NOT SECRET BECAUSE IT'S IN ALL KINDS OF PAPERS EVERYWHERE.
NARULA HAS REPRESENTED TO ME THAT HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MANAGE AND OPERATE THE DEAL HE'S HIRING AND FIRING PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE REMEDIATION, SMALL OUR PROCESS.
AND ALL OF MY INTERACTION HAS BEEN SOLELY WITH HIM AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE ASKED HIM TO DO.
AND I HAVEN'T HAD ANY DEALINGS WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, PERSON THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROPERTY.
UH, AND SO I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU IN WRITING, I CAN COMMUNICATE TO YOU BASED ON A REPRESENTATION THAT'S BEEN MADE TO ME.
UH, I GUESS THE SIMPLEST THING I COULD SAY THE REPRESENTATION HAS BEEN MADE TO ME.
AND THEN THE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE WORDS IS THE ACTIONS IS THAT'S BEEN HOW I'VE DEALT WITH IT WITH, UH, LET'S SAY DANNY, UH, DANNY, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? IS THERE A, IS THERE A NEW MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT THERE? UH, DANNY FRANKS HAS A, UH, A SECURITY COMPANY, UH, THAT OPERATES AT OVER 150 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
MANY OF THEM HOTELS AROUND THE METRO AREA PROVIDES BASICALLY A HIRED SECURITY AND A, HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH DR.
NARULA AND THEY HAD A MUTUAL DESIRE TO SEE THIS PLACE CLEANED UP.
AND SO HE'S BECOME THE PERSON, THE NOT WAS PROVIDING SECURITY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE REMODELING, GETTING THE PROPERTY BACK TO A FUNCTIONING HOUSING FACILITY.
AND SO DANNY HAS BEEN OUR CONTACT.
HE'S BEEN INTERACTED IN THE MEETINGS I'VE HAD WITH MR. MURDOCH.
HE WAS THERE LAST THURSDAY, HE'S AT THE PROPERTY EVERY DAY AND HIS DIRECTION AND AUTHORITY COMES FROM DR.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE, BUT FOR MYSELF, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE WAS A NEW MANAGEMENT.
I DIDN'T THAT THERE WAS A SWITCH.
SO I'M, I'M ACTUALLY COMFORTED A LITTLE BIT KNOWING THIS BECAUSE I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE TURNING THIS BACK OVER TO THE SAME MANAGEMENT.
AND MAYBE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SEMANTICS TONIGHT ABOUT OWNERSHIP.
I, I THOUGHT I TRIED TO COMMUNICATE THAT AND WHEN I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE PAST, AND IF I HAVEN'T DONE THAT, THEN I APOLOGIZE.
WELL, UM, I THINK MS. SCHILLER IS KNOWN, AND IT'S A WEIRD DYNAMIC.
YOU HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SHOW UP HERE THAT WANTED TO BRING IN OTHER ISSUES OUTSIDE OF THAT, TONS OF PEOPLE OPERATE BUSINESS BEHIND LLCS ALL DAY LONG IN EDMOND, AND NOBODY EVER KNOWS GOOD, BAD OR OTHERWISE.
UH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERENCING EARLIER.
THERE ARE FINANCIAL LIABILITIES TO THE CITY.
SOME ARE LISTED IN INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE'S NAMES, SOME ARE LISTED IN DIFFERENT LLCS.
AND SO MY GROUP THAT NOW HAS CONTROL MAYBE ONE OF THOSE THREE GROUPS, BUT WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE A DESIRE TO GET IN GOOD STEAD WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND ON AS MANY ISSUES AS A REASONABLY POSSIBLE.
AND SO WE ARE WALKING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF A MAZE AND, UH, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION AND SOME HELP.
I REMEMBER CORRECTLY STARTING OUT OUR, OUR NUMBER ONE FOCUS WAS ON THE, THE, THE NUISANCE AND PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
AND FIRST RESPONDERS CONCERN, UH, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, POLICE CALLS THAT WE HAD AT THE PROPERTY, UH, THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS GOING ON AT THE PROPERTY THAT COULD PUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AT RISK AND IN RESPONDING TO THOSE THINGS.
AND SO I, I FEEL LIKE I CAN SAY OUT LOUD, AS OF NOW, WE, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT'S BEEN SOLVED RIGHT NOW.
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I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY POLICE CALLS THAT WE'VE HAD THERE RECENTLY OR, OR FIRE.AND THEN DURING THAT DISCUSSION.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR AND THAT'S WONDERFUL.
UM, AND THEN DURING THAT DISCUSSION, IT KIND OF GREW INTO THEN A THEN KIND OF A OKAY CODE AND SAFETY, AS FAR AS WHO'S LIVING THERE, WHETHER IT'S ONE OR THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF THERE NOW THAT ONE, ONE I I'M OKAY WITH, WITH A SECURITY PERSON BEING THERE AND A LIGHT ON, AND, AND, AND IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR A PROPERTY THAT I WOULD OWN.
AND SO MAYBE, MAYBE STILL, UH, UH, A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD ON FROM, FROM THURSDAY'S INSPECTION AND THEN, AND MEETING IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE OKAY WITH THE ONE PERSON REMAINING THERE.
AND SO WE'VE, WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY ON A LONG, LONG WAY ON MEETING THE GOALS OF, UH, WHERE WE STARTED OUT HERE.
AND FOR ME, MY MIND IS, UM, JUST IMPATIENT THIS WAY.
IT'S JUMPING TWO TO SIX MONTHS FROM NOW IN A YEAR.
AND WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE CONTINUED LIFESPAN, UH, THE NEXT SEASON OF THIS PROPERTY, AND I'VE SHARED IT OUT LOUD, WE NEED A PROPERTY LIKE THIS IN IT, TODD, YOU AGREE.
AND, UM, WHETHER IT'S, UH, WHETHER IT'S A $500 A UNIT OR, OR A $1,500 A UNIT, WE NEED, UH, WE NEED THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IN EDMOND.
AND SO WE WANT IT TO, WE WANT IT TO BE AVAILABLE AND WE WANT IT TO SUCCEED.
SO MY, MY MIND IS I'M GLAD WHERE WE'VE COME TO AND I'M, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE ENOUGH FOR ONE PERSON TO REMAIN ON THE FIRST FLOOR WHILE WELL, MORE THINGS ARE GOING ON, BUT MOVING FORWARD, I, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR WE TAKE THE PROOF OF WHO'S IN CHARGE AND THE, AND THE, THE OWNERSHIP INTERESTS THERE, OR, OR WHO'S THE MANAGER OF THE, THE, THE LEGAL MANAGER OF THE ENTITY THERE.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT OR WE WANT TO TOTALLY BRING THAT UP TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S WHERE MY THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS GOING.
WELL, MY THING IN MY MIND IS GETTING PAST THE OCCUPANCY OF THE ONE PERSON TODAY.
UM, THE OWNERSHIP I SAW THE OWNERSHIP CHANGE BECAUSE MR. MCKINNIS AT ONE TIME SAT IN THE AUDIENCE.
I KNEW THAT HE WASN'T INVOLVED ANYMORE.
WHEN, BEFORE HE WAS INVOLVED, HE WAS AT THE, AT THE LECTERN.
THEN WHEN HE BECAME UN-INVOLVED, HE SAT DOWN AND HE WAS NEVER INVOLVED.
THE MOMENT HE CAME, HE GOT RE-ENGAGED.
HE CAME BACK UP HERE AND, AND HE TOLD US IF THERE WAS ANOTHER, HE TOLD, HE TOLD US THAT HER SON, ANOTHER PERSON, THE ENERGIES OF THE LLC, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE DISPERSE THEMSELVES THAT HE'S BACK IN HE'S ACT, HE'S BACK INVOLVED NOW FOR THIS PARTICULAR REASON, BECAUSE OF THE PERSON THAT'S RUNNING IT NOW.
AND SO I WOULD ALMOST ENVISION IT LIKE THIS, THAT IF, IF THAT WAS THE SWITCH AND WE COME IN HERE IN THREE WEEKS OR SO, OR WHATEVER, AND MR. MARTINEZ IS NOT STANDING THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BIT OF MANAGEMENT CHANGE THAT, THAT HE'S NOT AGREEABLE WITH, BUT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT EVERY TIME TO ASK WHO'S IN CHARGE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE VERY CORRECT.
AND I SAID THAT, I THINK LAST TIME, I DON'T SEE THIS AS LIKE NO LONGER, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY? I'VE SEE IT AS A, A PROCESS.
UH, AND I GUESS I WILL SAY THIS, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT FAIR, BUT I SAT IN THE AUDITS LIKE YOU DID IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
AND I HEARD THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVE STRUGGLE.
AND I FIRST MET WITH MR. MURDOCH ON MARCH 16TH AND THERE WERE OVER 65 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE PROPERTY.
AND SO IN THE LAST 75 DAYS, UH, WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF THE LIFE AND HEALTH AND SAFETY AND OCCUPANCY ISSUES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANY AWARDS FOR MY CLIENTS OR PAT ON THE BACK, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU ACTION HAS TAKEN PLACE BASED UPON THE AUTHORITY THAT I HAVE, UH, THAT'S OPERATING IN THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, SOMETHING HAS MADE A LOT OF CHANGE THERE SINCE YOU SHOWED BACK UP.
SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN S ANOTHER INSPECTION ON THURSDAY.
WE WERE THERE THIS PAST THIRD, THURSDAY, AND IT REALLY WASN'T AN INSPECTION.
IT WAS JUST TO GO WALK THROUGH, SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
LOOK AT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY AND EVALUATED.
AND I DIDN'T, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A FORMAL REPORT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR THE CODE DEPARTMENT, FIRE POLICE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW OR OBSERVED, BUT IT WAS JUST KIND OF GET INTO ASSESSMENT.
AND THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE ONGOING WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT SOME THINGS.
THEY SHOWED US SOME ROOMS THAT THEY HAD REDONE AND SOME FURNITURE IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHAT KIND OF IS A MODEL TYPE ROOM FOR AS AN EXAMPLE.
BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL THAT, UH, IT'S POSSIBLE
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THAT THE, UH, THEY MAY BE ALLOWED, UH, ONE PERSON AS A CARETAKER TO LIVE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, THAT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE VACANT AND THAT WE SHOULD COME BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.UH, MAYBE AT OUR MEETING ON JUNE 27TH, MILEY KIND OF CAVEAT, OR ADDITION TO WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT I'M JUST NOT COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE, THAT THERE'S NOT STILL A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE REPORTS BACK.
UM, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, I JUST DON'T WANT THE CITY TO BE AUTHORIZING SOMEONE TO LIVE IN THIS, UM, IN THIS FACILITY, IN THIS BUILDING, AND THEN HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THAT WE SAID IT WAS OKAY.
DO YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING? I HEARD YOU SAYING, I CANNOT REPORT TO YOU THAT THE DIET, THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT SAY IT'S OKAY FOR A PERSON TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.
HASN'T BEEN ASKED BECAUSE THE DIRECTION WAS THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE VACANT.
SO IN THAT REGARD, THEN WE NEED TO CONTINUE.
I WAS SUGGESTED, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND GO TO THE 27TH OF JUNE.
AND IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT THAT THEY CAN'T LIVE THERE UNTIL I CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT THAT IT'S SAFE TO DO.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
AND IT'S JUST A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO HAVING AN INDIVIDUAL THERE 24 7 TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY.
BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S LIVING THERE 24 7, AND THAT WE, THERE WERE KNOWN HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES IN THE PROPERTY.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, I JUST NEED TO INQUIRE IF IT'S SAFE FOR ONE PERSON TO LIVE THERE.
SO DID WE EVER, I WOULD JUST BRING UP, I THINK THAT WE COVERED THIS AT EITHER THE LAST TIME OR THE ONE BEFORE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, CAME AND THE REASONING THERE WASN'T THE NECESSARILY THE LIVING CONDITIONS.
IT WAS, THE LICENSE IS CORRECT FOR OHIO.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I GUESS I PROBABLY NEED TO ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS THE, WAS, THIS WAS THIS BROUGHT TO US, UH, WAS, WAS CODE COMPLIANCE AT EVER, EVER A REASON THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US THIS, THIS TIME, ONE OF THE REASONS CAN WE HAVE SMOKE DETECTORS THAT WEREN'T WORKING ELEVATORS WEREN'T WORKING.
AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, AGAIN, I WASN'T INVOLVED, BUT I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER SEEING A LETTER THAT WAS, UH, AROUND THAT TIME AND DATE.
I THINK THE DOORS WEREN'T LOCKING BACK TO, SO WHERE DOES, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO GET THAT, WHERE DOES THAT PERSON GO? TODD, IF, WELL, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE HAVE SOME CITY HELPS SOME HOPE CENTER HELP.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND HOUSING FOR THE OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE WILLING TO LEAVE AND WANTING TO COME BACK SOMEDAY.
AND SO WE WOULD DO THE SAME WITH THESE TWO FOLKS THAT ARE THERE TODAY.
ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO GO ANYWAY AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE FOR HIM RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WE'LL DO THAT WITH THE OTHER ONE, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY, I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE MAYOR? WELL, THE THING I LOOK AT IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR SOMEONE THAT LIVED THERE JUST TWO WEEKS AGO.
WE HAD THREE PEOPLE LIVING, FOUR PEOPLE LIVING THERE, FIVE PEOPLE, BUT WITH THREE OF THEM WERE THE SECURITY PEOPLE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE ON FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, AND THE THIRD FLOOR LIVING.
NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING EVERYONE DOWN.
IT'S JUST THE ONE PERSON DOWN TO THE FIRST FLOOR FROM A SAFETY ASPECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE BETTER BECAUSE THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT ON THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR.
WE DIDN'T STOP THEM BEFORE THE, FOR THAT BACK THEN.
AND THEN I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO, FOR OUR SAFETY AND CODE TO TELL US SOMETHING, UH, I THINK IT'S LESS RISK FOR ONE PERSON UNTIL THEY DO THAT FOR US.
UH, BUT WE DON'T MEET FOR AS A BODY AGAIN FOR ANOTHER THREE WEEKS AFTER, AFTER, AFTER TODAY.
AND WE'RE JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST ONE PERSON, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I MEAN, I GO BACK TO WHAT MR. MURDOCH SAID THAT THE QUESTION WASN'T, IS IT SAFE FOR ONE PERSON TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE WE ASKED THAT IT'D BE VACATED.
AND SO LOOK, I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT IF GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THIS INDIVIDUAL ON THERE, THERE ARE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.
AND I MEAN, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME OFFER A PRAGMATIC, I THINK IDEA AND TAKE IT FOR YOU.
ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL PROCESS IS TO FILE AN FTE ACTION BY THE CITY OF EDMOND TO SHUT THAT PLACE DOWN TOMORROW.
MR. MURDOCH MIGHT TELL ME, OH YEAH.
I CAN GO OUT THERE AT MY OWN PADLOCK.
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ALLOW ME TO LET ONE PERSON STAY THERE BETWEEN NOW AND THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT.AND IF MR. MURDOCH GETS REPORT BACK, THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S A LIFE HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE, THEN, THEN THEY'LL BE GONE.
AND I'LL HEAR FROM MR. MURDOCH BEFORE THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT.
AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU IF HE GIVES ME REASONABLE TIME AND THAT'S THE RESULT OF HIS INQUIRY, THEN THERE WON'T BE ANYBODY HERE.
WHEN WE GET HERE THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, YOU HAVE MY WORD.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND SOME SORT OF A INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION.
I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT AUTHORIZED.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE AUTHORIZING AN INDIVIDUAL TO LIVE IN THIS BUILDING IF SOMEONE'S THERE AND WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ACTION TO REMOVE THEM YET, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO AUTHORIZE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, MR. MURDOCH? SO I, WELL, WE NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION, I GUESS, OF FOLKS WHO CAN GIVE US A REPORT AS TO THE SAFETY OF, SO CASEY BASICALLY THEN WHERE WE ARE, UM, IS THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THEM VACATING THE PROV PROPERTY.
AND SO THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED THAT PROCESS.
UM, LET THEM RESPOND HOW THEY BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE.
WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZING HIM TO HAVE A CARETAKER LIVE ON THE SIDE, BUT IF THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL REPORT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON, AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND IN THE MEANTIME I WILL ASK SPECIFICALLY, UH, OUR, OUR FOLKS, UH, IF THEY BELIEVE IT'S SAFE FOR ONE PERSON, WHO'S LIVE ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND AS A RESULT OF WHAT THEY OBSERVED THROUGH PROPERTY.
AND IF THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND DO AN ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION, FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVING ON THAT.
EXACTLY HOW THE FACILITIES ARE WORKING IN THAT PARTICULAR UNIT.
AND I'D ASK YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME AS SOON AS YOU KNOW THAT THIS, SO THIS I BE BACK ON THE AGENDA.
THEN OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE COULD JUST GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, NEXT WE NEED A PROMOTION TO RE RECESS EDELMAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CON CONVENE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE'RE NOW IN THE PUBLIC WORKS MEETING.
[7. Approval of EPWA Meeting Minutes:May 9, 2022. ]
ORDER OF BUSINESS APPROVAL OF APWA MINUTE MEETING MINUTES MAY 9TH, 2020 TO MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION.SECOND SECOND, PLEASE GET YOUR VOTE.
THOSE MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[8. EPWA General Consent Items:]
ITEMS, APPROVAL PURCHASES, ACCEPTANCE OF BID AND PROVE OF AGREEMENT FOR THE FY 22 SANITARY SEWER REHABILITATION PHASE TWO PROJECT FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, $1,155,203 APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER.NUMBER TWO TO THE CONSTANT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH BELL CONSTRUCTION, INC FOR THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN PROJECT
NUMBER ONE FOR ENGINEERING CONTRACT FEE PROPOSAL, TASK ORDER.
NUMBER 10, DANFORTH SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENT WITH CEC CORPORATION FOR $60,180.
AND FOURTH IS A SUBSTANCE OF EASEMENT FROM LAMAR H WILSON FOR SPRING CREEK IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECT PARCEL ONE $15,000 COUNCIL.
THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR PURCHASES FOR AN APWA.
I MOVED TO APPROVE ITEMS, A 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR ARE A MOTION A SECOND AND A SECOND.
THOSE PURCHASES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
COULD YOU BACK UP TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM FOR THE MINUTES? IT DID NOT RECORD COUNCIL MEMBER.
I KNOW I SAW THAT AND THEN IT WENT AWAY.
SO I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WENT ON THERE.
SO IF WE COULD BACK UP AND GET THE OFFICIAL VOTE, ONE MORE TIME PLEASE.
UH, EIGHT, EIGHT FOR THE PURCHASES FOR THE MINUTES, FOR THE MINUTES.
SO LET'S REVOTE ON THE MINUTES.
NOW WE NEED TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SORRY, CAN PLEASE GIVE US YOUR ROLE.
NOW WE'RE BACK IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR WE HAVE A NUMBER NINE, ITEM
[9. Planning Consent Items:]
NUMBER NINE, PLANNING, CONSENT ITEMS, CASE NUMBER D D TWO TWO DASH 0 0 0 0 5.PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A LOT SPLIT FOR CHITWOOD STUDIOS LOCATED
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ON A NORTHEAST CORNER OF HOWARD IN WEST SECOND, URBAN CORE PROPERTIES, LLC APPLICANT APPLICANT HERE.UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, CASE PR 22 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR CHASE BANK LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF BRYANT AND SECOND STREET.
AND THE THIRD ONE IS CASE PR 202 DASH 0 0 0 1 2 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR FINAL PLAT OF THE EMBER LOCATED NORTH OF NINTH STREET IN WESTERN BOULEVARD.
COUNSEL, ANY THOMAS CONCERNS ON THOSE ITEMS BY THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC FOR THOSE SINCE IT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, SIR.
[C. Case #PR22-00012 Public Hearing and Consideration of Final Plat of The Ember located north of 9th Street and west of Boulevard (8th Street Homes, LLC)]
DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHICH ITEM WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON.UH, YOU'RE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ED MOORE, UH, EDMOND NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE.
JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION ON NINE C ON THE STATUS OF WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE BAHRAINI VERSUS SAY THE TREES BY THE CREEK ON BOULEVARD.
AND, UH, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE TREES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROP PROPERTY? DID SOMEONE HAVE TO SCREEN? OH, ANYWAY, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE TREES BY, BY THE CREEK PRESERVATION OF TREES.
AND THEN THE TREES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS HE FELL OVER HERE.
THAT'S A COMMON AREA FOR THE REST OF THE PLANT.
UH, THE CITY IS CURRENTLY PUTTING IN A UTILITY LINES THAT SEWER LINE THROUGH THERE.
SO THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION YOU SEE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, ALONG BOULEVARD.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK FOR THE, UH, AMBER WILL BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE LAW, BUT THE TREES ARE IN A COMMON AREA.
NOW ON THE WEST WEST SIDE BY LITTER, ARE THERE ANY, I WOULD ANTICIPATE ALL THOSE TREES WILL BE GONE AS THAT WILL BE PARALLEL PARKING.
COUNSEL WORLD WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THESE THREE ITEMS, MOVE TO APPROVE NINE, A B AND C.
YOU HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, SECOND, PLEASE.
[10. Executive Session to discuss pending claim: Dobbs vs. City (Executive Session authorized pursuant to 25 Okla. Stat. 307 (B)(4).]
EMOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PENDING CLAIM.SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE'RE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, LIKE A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[11. Consideration of action with regard to the claim Dobbs vs. City. ]
MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED WITH THE SETTLEMENT AND THE DOBBS CLAIM.WE ARE THAT, UM, MOTION HAS PASSED OR THAT ACTION REGARDING THE DOG.
[12. Citizens Comments - (This is an opportunity for citizens, both resident and non-resident, to address the City Council on city related matters not on the council agenda. Citizens Must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. Remarks should be directed to City Council as a whole and limited to three minutes or less.)]
IS A CITIZENS' COMMENT.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS, BOTH RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY RELATED MATTERS.
NOT ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
MUST SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON ONLINE BY 3:00 PM.
THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR IN PERSON BY THE START OF THE MEETING, REMARKS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
UH, I AM THE TIMER FOR THIS AND WE GET THERE TO THAT PARTICULAR THREE MINUTES.
OUR FIRST RESIDENCE IS LEONARD SCOTT.
UH, I'M HEARING ABOUT THE AGENDA.
WE'VE HAD FOUR PEOPLE HERE LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO THAT ASKED TO PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA
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TODAY.I WENT THROUGH THIS FOR 16 MONTHS TRYING TO PUT ARTICLE 11 ON THE AGENDA AND NEVER GOT APPROVED.
SO I NEED SOME INFORMATION PLEASE.
UH, HOW DOES ONE GET ON THE AGENDA PLEASE? SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW CAN A CITIZEN PUTTING SOMETHING ON YOUR AGENDA? WELL, SOMEBODY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR ME NOW.
I KNOW IT'S OPEN MEETINGS, ZACK, BUT IT'S SIMPLE QUESTION.
HOW DOES A CITIZEN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA? MR. CITY TURNED, TELL ME HOW TO DO IT.
THE COUNCIL WANTS ME TO RESPOND.
IN THAT CASE, THAT'S A BLACK HOLE BECAUSE YOU SEE, WE COME UP AND WE TRY TO PUT SOMETHING ON YOUR AGENDA AND ON YOUR RIGHT EVER IN FRONT OF IT SAYS A FICTIONAL ACCIDENT CAN ONLY BE TAKEN ON ITEMS, WHICH APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.
OKAY? THE CITY OF COUNCIL MAY ADAPT TO PROVE.
REJECT, DENY, STRIKE, OR CONTINUE ANY ITEM.
OH, BY THE WAY, UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES, UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, ITEMS ARE DEFERRED.
DATE ARE STRICKEN FROM THE AGENDA ENTIRELY.
WELL, IF I'M A CITIZEN AND I PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA OR WANT TO PUT IT ON GENDER, WHO TELLS ME, WHO COMES UP TO ME? WHO HUSBANDS THAT? WHO I SAY, UH, MY CITY, MY GUY, UH, DAVE CHAPMAN.
I ASKED HIM TO PUT ON THE AGENDA.
I ASKED DAVID, WHY IS IT ON THE AGENDA? AND I DON'T GET AN ANSWER.
IT DOESN'T APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.
AND NOW I CAN'T FIND OUT WHY ISN'T, WHY ISN'T IT ON THE AGENDA.
I MEAN, SOME OF THESE ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT ITEMS. THE AFTER EXTRA REVIEW IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT, HOW DID YOU ALL SHUT DOWN THE CITY MANDATE MASKS AND YOU HARMED US.
SO WE WANT TO KNOW, STOP THAT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T EVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO WHERE IS MY ANSWER? WHO HUSBANDS MY REQUEST FOR AN AGENDA? WHO DOES IT? NO ANSWER.
WE BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND WE GET NOTHING.
NOT A RESPONSE, NOT WHY IT WASN'T DONE.
WHY IT WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF NOTHING.
MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, SERVANTS.
THE WAY THE PEOPLE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO ON OUR BEHALVES.
UM, THIS IS ONCE AGAIN, FROM RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER DOORS, ONE OF YOUR CORE VALUES IS COMMUNICATION.
AND WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT UNDERNEATH THE WORD COMMUNICATION, WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A DIVERSE EXPRESSION OF THOUGHT AND DIALOGUE.
WHAT I JUST SAW OCCUR RIGHT BEFORE ME DOES NOT FIT THIS, THIS STATEMENT RIGHT HERE, YOUR CORE VALUES.
WHEN I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO COMMUNICATE AND GET ONE OF MY CONCERNS ON THE AGENDA, I WAS TOLD THAT THIS ISN'T THE FORM, THE FORMAT FOR IT, THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO SPEAK TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND ASK THEM TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
BUT WHEN I DO THAT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THEN EITHER OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING US ARE, WILL NOT.
THE GOVERNMENTS WILL NOT THE BUREAUCRACIES.
I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT FEELS THIS WAY.
ABOUT MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE BROUGHT UP.
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THEM, BUT NOBODY UP THERE HAS CARED ENOUGH TO LISTEN AND SAY ANYTHING THAT ANY OF US OUT HERE HAVE ASKED FOR.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMMUNICATING WITH THIS.
ONE OF YOUR CORE VALUES IS COMMUNICATING WITH US.
WHEN WE ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU, WE GET NOTHING IN RESPONSE.
WHEN WE ATTEMPT TO GET AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IN THE CORRECT MANNER, WE STILL GET NO RESPONSE.
AND IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING PLACED ON THE AGENDA, THE LEAST YOU COULD DO IS COMMUNICATE WITH AND LET US KNOW WHY, BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT.
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US THE RESPECT THAT YOU SHOULD BE GIVING US.YOU DEMAND RESPECT FROM US, BUT SHE DON'T RETURN THAT RESPECT.
I WENT TO FIG PARK RIGHT ACROSS FROM UCO TO HAVE DINNER WITH MY GRANDSON AND MY DAUGHTER THE OTHER DAY.
AND I WAS GREETED BY A TENT, A TENT SET UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PART WHERE THE SHOPPING CAR AND A BICYCLE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR.
AND TWO PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, MILLING AROUND HOW WAS THE CAMERA RIGHT HERE IN EBEN AT OUR CITY PARK? HOW CAN YOU GUYS JUST SIT UP THERE AND ACT LIKE EVERYTHING IS ALL NORMAL.
WHEN OUR CITY IS GOING TO WASTE, YOU'RE BUILDING ALL THESE NEW BEAUTIFUL PROJECTS.
YOU GOT 1.5 MILLION FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
YOU'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL TENNIS FACILITY.
WE'VE GOT NICE AND WONDERFUL THINGS AND THAT'S ALL GREAT.
BUT WHY WOULD YOU, WHY WOULD YOU JUST ALLOW IT TO BE MARRED BY WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COMMUNITY? DO YOU NOT CARE? DO YOU, ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS GETTING STEPPED ON GETTING MONEY APPROPRIATELY FUNDS DOING THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER, BUT NOT TAKING CARE OF THE TRUE PROBLEMS THAT ISSUES YOU GUYS NEED TO RETHINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE WE, THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK OF WATCHING IT AND DEALING WITH IT.
WELL, THE NEXT ITEM IS NEW BUSINESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETING ACT, NEW BUSINESS IS DEFINED AS ANY MATTER, NOT KNOWN ABOUT WHICH COULD HAVE NOT HAVE BEEN REASONABLY FORESEEN PRIOR TO THE TIME OF POSTING OF THE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS A GERMAN MOTION.
SECOND, YOU GOT YOUR VOTE HERE BY GERMAN.