[1. Call to Order by Mayor Darrell A. Davis.]
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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER JULY 25TH, 2022.
[2. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes: July 11, 2022.]
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 11TH, 2022.SECOND SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THOSE MEETING MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
[3. City Council Nominations to Boards and Commissions:]
NEXT ORDER IS A MAYOR'S NOMINATION TO BOARD, A COMMISSION'S REAPPOINTMENT OF STANLEY YOUNG TO THE GUTHRIE EDMOND AIRPORT BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025 WAR NOMINATION AND REAPPOINTMENT NOMINATION OF KRISTIN FURAN TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST REPLACED.STEPHANIE CARROLL TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
[4. UCO Nomination of Kevin Tero to the Central Edmond Urban District Board to replace Fred Fieth; No Max Term.]
AND THEN WE HAVE THE UCO NOMINATION OF KEVIN TARO, UH, TO THE CENTRAL EDMOND URBAN DISTRICT BOARD TO REPLACE FRED FEET FIGHT NO MAX TERM.THOSE ARE THREE NOMINATIONS OR REAPPOINTMENTS COUNCIL.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? SECOND EMOTION SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THERE'S NOMINATIONS OR APPOINTMENTS AND A REAPPOINTMENT.
[5. General Consent Items:]
SOME GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS HERE.[1. Presentation and Discussion on the Mitch Park Northwest Sports Fields Master Plan to include possible direction from City Council.]
HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON THE MICH PARK, NORTHWEST SPORTS FIELDS, MASTER PLAN TO INCLUDE POSSIBLE DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL.WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE PRESENTATION TO HAVE OUR DISCUSSION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN MARCH.
UH, WE WERE GIVEN THE DIRECTIVE OF, TO LOOK INTO DOING A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS CORNER OF SANTA FE.
I MEAN THIS QUARTER OF MICH PARKING ALONG SANTA FE TO LOOK AT PUTTING IN SOME SPORTS FIELDS FOR SOME OF OUR GROWING PROGRAMS. AND SO WE HIRED PLANNING DESIGN GROUP, UH, TO DO THAT.
WE WALKED THROUGH A PROCESS AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCEPTS IN FRONT OF YOU AND SOME, SOME PRICING, UH, ESTIMATES, UH, TONIGHT JEFF EVANS FROM PLANNING DESIGN GROUP, UH, CAME FROM TULSA AND HE'S GOING TO WALK THROUGH THESE CONCEPTS AND, AND MENTIONED A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, UM, UH, REGARDLESS.
AND AS CRAIG SAID, I'M JEFF EVANS WITH PLANNING DESIGN GROUP OR PDG OUT OF TULSA.
UH, OUR COMPANY IS HEADQUARTERED IN TULSA, BUT WE DO STATE WORK ALL OVER THE STATE.
UH, WE SPECIALIZE IN PARKS AND RECREATION AND SPORTS COMPLEXES FOR MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING WITH ABOUT 15 MUNICIPALITIES, UH, ANYWHERE FROM $150,000 PLAYGROUND TO $22 MILLION SOCCER COMPLEX.
UM, SO WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.
UM, WE DO LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, COMMUNITY PLANNING, URBAN PLANNING, UH, AND WE HAVE A SISTER COMPANY THAT DOES GOLF COURSE DESIGN.
SO WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
THIS SITE IS ROUGHLY 30 ACRES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ONE CONCEPT UP ON THE BOARD.
NOW I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN THIS, BUT JUST TO RUN THROUGH A FEW ITEMS, UH, SOME OF THE EXISTING ELEMENTS THAT ARE ON THE SITE, UH, THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION STORAGE AREA FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, A WATER WELLS SITE, UM, TO THE SOUTHEAST, AS THE YMCA, THERE IS A GEOTHERMAL FIELD ON THE SITE, UH, THAT SERVICES, THE YMCA, THE SITE IS BORDERED BY SANTA FE ON THE WEST AND KITE, UH, FEST LANE ON THE SOUTH.
UM, THERE IS A COUPLE EASEMENTS THAT RUN THROUGH THE SITE.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE TOP RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU SEE, UH, A LINE COMING.
UM, THERE IS A LINE COMING THROUGH HERE.
THERE'S A, UH, TWO 16 INCH, UH, PETROLEUM LINES THAT RUN THROUGH THERE WITH AN EASEMENT.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE DESIGN IS BASED AROUND THAT.
UH, THERE IS A WATERLINE THAT COMES OFF THE WATER WELL AND COMES DOWN AND CONNECTS TO A LINE ON SANTA FE.
AND THEN ALSO THERE'S AN OGN EASEMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE WHERE THE POWER LINES ARE, UM, DESIGN CRITERIA WAS TO DESIGN THREE TO FOUR SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS, AND THEN HAVE OPEN SPACE OR FLEX PLAY AREAS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR A VARIETY OF SPORTS.
WITH THE MAIN FOCUS WAS ON LACROSSE SOCCER, FOOTBALL, FLAG FOOTBALL, AND THEN THE FLEX SPACES THAT GO WITH THIS, UM, DESIGN WAS ALSO TO INCLUDE CONCESSION AND RESTROOM BUILDINGS, POSSIBLE, REFEREE SPACES AND MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE AREAS, PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THESE ITEMS, SPORTS FIELD, LIGHTING, A TRAIL CONNECTION FROM THE EXISTING TRAIL.
AND THAT'S THE WHITE LINE THAT GOES AROUND THERE, UH, FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE TO THE SOUTHWEST WHERE THERE'S EXISTING TRAILS.
NOW WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR DETENTION ON THE SITE AND ANALYZE ALL VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY AND
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TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SAFE ROUTES AROUND THE SITE, UM, LAST WAS TO ANALYZE SOME OF THE SITE UTILITIES, WHICH THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE DID DETERMINE THAT MOST OF THE UTILITIES ARE EITHER ONSITE OR ADJACENT TO THE SITE.SO AS YOU'RE SEEING HERE, THIS IS CONCEPT NUMBER ONE, THIS IS A FOREFIELD DESIGN.
UH, IT IS A LITTLE SCRUNCHED, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR FOUR MAIN FIELD AREAS.
THESE ARE PROPOSED TO BE SYNTHETIC PER FIELDS, UH, THIS AREA, PLUS THE AREA OF THE CONCESSION STAND RESTROOM AND, AND, UH, REFEREE AREA AND ANYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE FENCE AREA.
THIS WOULD ALL BE A LOCKED FENCE AREA.
THIS TAKES UP ROUGHLY ABOUT 12 ACRES OF THE 13 ACRE OR 30 ACRES THAT ARE ON THE SITE.
THIS WOULD INCLUDE SHADED SEATING AREAS FOR PLAYERS AND SPECTATORS.
UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE WOULD HAVE THE MAIN PARKING AREA THAT'S HERE OFF OF SANTA FE AND HAS A CONNECTION TO KITE FEST LANE.
AND THIS AREA WILL TAKE UP ABOUT ANOTHER 3.5 ACRES OF PARKING.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE NATURAL GRASS FLEX PLAY AREA OVER HERE.
UH, THROUGH RESEARCH, WE'VE SEEN THAT YOU CAN PUT THINGS ON TOP OF THE GEOTHERMAL FIELD.
WE JUST CAN'T MODIFY THE GRADE TOO MUCH, BUT TO GET SOME FLEX PLATE SPACE, IT WILL ALLOW FOR THAT USE ON TOP OF THERE.
UM, THAT AREA WILL TAKE UP ANOTHER, ROUGHLY EIGHT ACRES OF THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL OF YOUR KIND OF SPORTS AND RECREATION AREA.
YOU WILL HAVE THE TRAIL THAT GOES AROUND THE SITE, UH, ENTRYWAYS THAT ARE LOCKED OFF ON GATES AND, AND ENTRY FEATURES TO DESIGNATE THE SPACE.
UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE HERE BEHIND THE WATER, WELL IS, UH, A MAINTENANCE STORAGE AREA.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE THAT ONSITE TO STORE GOALS OR EQUIPMENT OR EVEN MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT YOU WANTED TO KEEP IN THIS SITE.
UM, DETENTION RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SHOWING ALONG THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SITE.
WE HAVE TALKED WITH STORMWATER.
UH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR ADDITIONAL STORM WATER ON SITE, BUT ONCE WE, IF WE MOVE INTO CDS OR WHATEVER ON THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER ON SITE, UH, ON OUR TEAM TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ITEMS AND KNOW THE EXACT SIZE, DEPTH AND REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT AND WORK WITH YOUR CITY PEOPLE TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THEN LAST, WE HAVE A PARKING LOT THAT'S DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, THAT'S A, COULD BE AN OPTIONAL PARKING LOT WITH ABOUT 150 SPACES.
THE MAIN ONE HAS ABOUT 385 SPACES IN IT.
AND THIS MORE THAN ACCOUNTS FOR TYPICAL WE'D PLAY INTO SOME OVERLAP, BUT WITHOUT CREATING A WHOLE PARKING LOT ON THE WHOLE SITE, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY PIECE OF PARKING THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY WANT ON THE SITE, BUT THIS ACCOUNTS FOR MORE THAN THE STANDARD PRACTICE THAT WE GO BY TO ACCOUNT FOR PARKING FOR A SPORTS COMPLEX, THAT IS CONCEPT A, AND THEN CONCEPT B VERY SIMILAR IN ALL THE ELEMENTS.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE ON THIS ONE IS AS WE DOWNSIZED AND WENT TO A THREE-FOLD LAYOUT, A LITTLE BIT LARGER FLEX PLAY AREA.
SO THIS ONE, WE HAVE A ABOUT EIGHT ACRES GO INTO THE, UH, LOCKABLE AREA, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THIS SPACE HERE.
AND THEN THE PARKING LOT TAKES UP ABOUT THE SAME SPACE.
WE SHOW IT AS AN OPTIONAL SPACE ON THIS ONE, BUT A PARKING LOT DOWN HERE ON THIS END TAKES UP ROUGHLY THE SAME, ABOUT 150 SPACES.
AND THEN THIS ONE, THE FLEX PLAY AREA WILL, WILL GO UP TO ABOUT EIGHT ACRES WHERE ON THE OTHER ONE, OR IT'S ABOUT THE SAME, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE WAS ABOUT NINE ACRES.
SO THIS ONE JUST KIND OF UTILIZES THE SEED SIDE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, THE MAINTENANCE AREAS IN THIS PORTION OF THE SITE RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE SEEN THE COST ESTIMATES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE THAT ARE ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
UH, THEY'RE IN THE SAME BALLPARK ONES, UH, ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS MORE JUST BASED ON THE SIZE AND, AND THE ADDITIONAL SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD THAT HAS THE MAJORITY OF THE COST HERE.
PARKING LOTS AND SPORTS LIGHTING IN THE SYNTHETIC TURF ARE YOUR BIG DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW ON IT? THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE PUT OUT SOME OF THE EXITS TO THE PARKING LOT ON THE KITE FEST AND SOME OUT ON THE SANTA FE.
SO YOU HAVE OPTIONS TO GET IN AND OUT, AND IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PARK AND OUT TO THE SOUTH ALSO.
SO TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR SEVERAL EXIT STRATEGIES TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE SITE, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A GROWING AREA OF EDMOND.
UM, IT HAS BEEN FOR YEARS AND, UH, MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THIS SITE, TWO THAT ARE POSSIBILITIES.
SO BETWEEN THE THREE FIELD OPTION OR FOUR FIELD OPTION, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ECONOMIES OF SCALE COME WITH WITH IT EITHER WAY? SO IF YOU DO THREE FIELDS, YOU'VE GOT UTILITY EXTENSIONS.
REALLY THE BIGGEST THING ON THAT IS YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THE SPORTS LIGHTING TO THE SIGN AND YOU, I MEAN, WHAT'S IS ABOUT $250,000 PER FIELD, RIGHT? WHEN YOU DO THE FIELD, SIDE-BY-SIDE YOU HAVE SHARED LIGHTING.
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INTO THE THREE VERSUS FOUR, YOU CAN UTILIZE THE SHARED LIGHTING ON THAT ONE FIELD.UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE COST OF THE TURF, OBVIOUSLY, AND THE DRAINING SYSTEM OF THE TURF FIELDS THAT GO INTO THAT.
BUT REALLY OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE DRASTIC COST OF UPSIZING THE RESTROOM OR, OR BRINGING IN DIFFERENT UTILITIES TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
THOSE ARE KIND OF YOUR TWO BIG MAJOR FACTORS.
CAN YOU DISCUSS THE FLEX SPACE ON THE FIRST OPTION? LET'S LOOK AT IT.
WHEN YOU THINK OF THAT FLEX SPACE, WHAT'S YOUR VISION FOR THE USE OF THAT VISION OR IS THAT, SO WHEN WE MET WITH VARIOUS USER GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, BEFORE WE DID THIS MASTER PLAN, UH, WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, WHERE, UM, WITH CRAIG AND OTHER STAFF.
AND SO WE MET WITH, UM, THE FLAG FOOTBALL WEEK, FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, WE MET WITH THE LACROSSE GROUP.
WE MET WITH, UH, SOME DIFFERENT OTHER
UM, THEY MIGHT HAVE PRACTICE AREAS FOR LACROSSE OR, OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER SPORTS.
SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT.
AND WITH IT BEING NATURAL GRASS, IT'S EASIER TO REMARK AND UTILIZE THE FIELDS FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF SPORTS AND SIZES OF FIELDS THAT DON'T NEED LIGHTS THAT DON'T NEED LIGHTS.
YOU WOULD DO MOST OF THAT ON A SATURDAY.
IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF YOUR YOUTH KIDS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NEED THE GAME FIELDS FOR.
SO WOULD YOU ALSO, I MEAN, THAT FLEX PLACE COULD ALSO JUST BE USED FOR OPEN SPACE, LIKE TO THE RIGHT THERE, UM, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENJOY THE PARK, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIMITED TO ONLY SPORTS, BE NO FENCING AROUND THAT AREA.
SO I GUESS IF IT'S PROGRAMMED IN AND RESERVED FOR SPORTS PRACTICES OR WHATEVER, OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD HAVE RESTRICTIONS THEN, BUT IF IT'S NOBODY'S USING IT, I'M ASSUMING IT CAN BE USED FOR WHATEVER.
SO WHAT'S, I MEAN, THE TOTAL, UM, THIS, HOW MANY ACRES IS THE WHOLE PIECE AND TOTAL SITE IS ABOUT 30 ACRES.
AND THEN UNDER OPTION ONE, THERE'S EIGHT ACRES OF OPEN SPACE AND NINE ACRES IN OPTION B THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT ACRES, UH, OR SORRY, ON, ON THIS FOREFIELD VERSION, THERE'S 12 ACRES OF WALKABLE AREA.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER ONE, THERE'S ABOUT NINE ACRES.
SO THE FREE SPACE IS 12 ACRES.
THE FREE SPACE ON THIS ONE IS EIGHT ACRES, SORRY, I'M 12.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE COMPARISON OF THE FREE SPACE IN THE TWO OPTIONS, ROUGHLY THE SAME.
HE SAYS ROUGHLY THE SAME ONE IS EIGHT ACRES AND ONE IS NINE ACRES.
SO THAT'S EIGHT ACRES THERE, ROUGHLY.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER ONE, THAT'S NINE ACRES, JUST IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.
THEN YOU TAKE OUT SOME OF THAT SPACE THAT GOES FURTHER TO THE NORTH AND WHAT THE PARKING LOT, MOVING FURTHER TO THE EAST ON THIS ONE TO HAVE THAT ENTRY AREA, IT TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE SPACE THERE TOO.
WERE YOU ASKED TO DO ANY ANALYSIS OF REVENUE ON THE FIELD, NOT ON THIS BECAUSE IN THE END, THAT WILL BE BASED ON HOW IT'S PROGRAMMED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT SPORTS GROUP USES IT THE MOST, IF IT'S LACROSSE, IF IT'S FLAG FOOTBALL OR WHO, SO CRAIG, ARE YOU GOING TO GET UP IN A MINUTE OR ARE WE GOING TO, DOES ANYBODY NEED YOU OTTAWA? I WAS GOING TO MAKE ONE MORE SUGGESTION.
I HAD TO COME COMPANY HERE ON THE FOREFIELD IF YOU'D SWITCH TO THE FOREFIELD ONE.
AND JUST BECAUSE I'M IN THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW, PLAYING IT CON COMPLEXES RIGHT NOW WITH OUR KIDS, UM, WHERE IT OPENS, UH, TO THE OPEN FIELD FROM THE COMPLEX WHERE THE FENCING IS AT THE COMMON AREA IN THE MIDDLE WE'D USUALLY DO IS HAVE, HAVE GAY, UH, GATE OR GATES THERE WHERE YOU CAN WARM UP ON WHILE THE OTHER GAMES ARE HAPPENING, WARM UP THERE, AND USUALLY A VOLUNTEER MANS, THE CORNER OR SOMETHING, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE FLOW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THAT ONE MIGHT EVEN HAVE A, A GATE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT.
WE MIGHT EXTEND THE SIDEWALK AND HAVE ACCESS FOR THE OVERFLOW PARKING TO, AND THERE MIGHT BE TOURNAMENTS WHERE YOU'RE RUNNING SOME, SOME GAMES ON THE GRASS FIELDS AND SOME ON THE SYNTHETIC PART.
SO MY QUESTION WAS THIS, UM, I APPRECIATE THE COMPARISON OF THE, THE, WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THE FLEX SPACE, BECAUSE JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, UM, BECAUSE THIS TOE HOLD TOTAL 30 ACRES WAS JUST NOTHING BUT OPEN PASSIVE LAND.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THE BEST BENEFIT OUT OF THAT.
SO YOU SAY YOU TALKED TO A LOT OF INTEREST GROUPS THAT HAVE COME TO THE CITY RIGHT NOW, BUT HAVE YOU TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER INTEREST GROUPS THAT ARE ALREADY USING THIS FIELD? UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A, I WANT TO, I WANT TO HAVE A FULL
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CONVERSATION GOING ON ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE, IF WE LOOKING AT TAKING 30 ACRES OF OPEN LAND TO DOWN TO EIGHT OR NINE.BESIDES THE THERE'S NO OTHER SPORTING EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE.
UH, IT USED TO BE RUGBY YEARS AGO.
THEY'VE KIND OF GONE BY THE WAYSIDE.
UH, OTHER SPORTS PARTNERS USE THIS FROM TIME TO TIME FOR PRACTICES OUT OF THE YMCAS HAS USED IN THE PAST FOR GAMES, BUT THEY'RE POINTING TO GAMES ON THE, UH, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL FIELDS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE YMCA, UM, LIBERTY FAST.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT USING THE SPACE STILL FOR KITE FEST, UM, FOR THEIR EVENT.
AND, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T SENT ANYTHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UM, BESIDES THE DIFFERENT USER GROUPS THAT WE'VE MET WITH, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OTHER GROUP THAT USES THIS.
SO, SO YOU COULD HAVE, IF THIS WERE TO MOVE, AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC AND THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA, YOU COULD HAVE LIKE A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING, RIGHT.
IF IT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WOULD BE IN THE AREA.
CRAIG WOOD, I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S TEAMS, SOCCER TEAMS AND, AND REC TEAMS THAT USE THE FIELD RIGHT NOW FOR PRACTICING.
WOULD THAT STILL BE ALLOWED ON THE, UH, YES.
SOCCER HAS, UH, SOCCER'S ASK US, UH, IF THEY, IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT COULD USE THIS IN THE WINTER TIME AND OBVIOUSLY LACROSSE FOOTBALL, UH, THOSE THINGS ARE FALLING SPRING.
SO THE WINTER TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD TIME FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE FLEX SPACE? JUST FOR OPEN, JUST DEPEND ON PROGRAMMING, UH, WHO NEEDS TO PLAY GAMES? THERE ARE PRACTICES, AS JEFF WAS MENTIONED, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SCHEDULE FOR THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO BOOK IT UP THE WHOLE TIME.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE TIME FOR PEOPLE JUST TO WALK UP AND PLAY, OR MAYBE A TEAM JUST WANTS TO SHOW UP THERE TO PRACTICE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SCHEDULE FOR THAT.
SO, SO MY QUESTION WAS ON FINANCING.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'VE LOOKED OR CONSIDERED WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS AND OTHERS TO UTILIZE THE FIELDS.
UM, WE HAVEN'T GOT DOWN TO THE EXACT DOLLAR OR HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY.
UM, UH, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING SOME RESEARCH OF WHAT OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES ARE IN THE REGION.
THERE'S NOT MANY IN OKLAHOMA, UH, BROKEN ARROW DOES, UH, BUT WE'D LOOK NORTH AND SOUTH KANSAS, TEXAS TO SEE, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD RENT FOR, ESPECIALLY IF, UH, A DIFFERENT GROUP THAT'S NOT ONE OF OUR SPORTS PARTNERS COMES IN AND WANTS TO RENT THAT RENT THIS FACILITY, THEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CHARGE THEM TO GOING RIGHT.
UH, FOR THAT, UH, TO USE THAT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE USING LIGHTS, IF THEY NEED MAINTENANCE AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
SO, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.
IT'S A BIG OBLIGATION, RIGHT? WE'RE LITTLE EXCITED THAT WE'RE DOING IT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE DETERMINE THOSE COSTS AS WELL FOR THAT TAKE PLACE.
I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE DIRECTIVE THAT WE'RE GIVEN TONIGHT, OR IF THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO INTO, WE'LL GO INTO MORE OF THAT RESEARCH, UH, TO SEE, GET, GET SOME BETTER IDEAS FOR PRICES AND COSTS OF, OKAY.
AND I'LL HAVE JUST ANOTHER QUESTION WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE PARKING IS HOW'S THAT GUESSTIMATED BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S JUST A DRAFT AND IN, ON ONE OR ON THE THREE ONE, THE PARKING IS, IS IT LIKE FLEX PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE CALCULATE PARKING, WE ESTIMATE HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE GONNA BE ON EACH TEAM.
HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE FIELD, UH, WITH COACHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE USE A FACTOR OF TWO CARS PER PLAYER FOR COACH THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE FIELD.
AND THAT'S KIND OF A PRETTY STANDARD, UH, DEAL BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE FOUR, YOU MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE THAT ONLY HAVE ONE, YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE THAT RODE WITH SOMEBODY.
SO WHAT WE'VE FOUND OVER THE YEARS IS IF WE USE A FACTOR OF TWO, IT USUALLY BALANCES OUT CORRECTLY.
THAT'S INCREASED OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, GRANDMOTHERS, GRANDFATHERS, AUNTS, UNCLES, COUSINS, WHATEVER, LIKE TO SHOW UP TO GAMES NOW IN SUPPORT OF LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND SO I HAVE KIDS MYSELF THAT HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS.
SO I ANALYZE THAT TOO, WHEN I'M VISITING THESE SPACES.
UM, AND YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR ENOUGH PARKING FOR BIG TOURNAMENTS AND THE OVERLAP AND WHO STICKS AROUND BETWEEN GAMES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
BUT THIS GIVES A GOOD NUMBER OF SPACES THAT WILL COUNT FOR ANY LEAGUE PLAY AND SOME OVERLAP.
NO, YOU DO HAVE, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND WHY MCA.
AND IT WOULDN'T BE CRAZY TO SHUTTLE IF IT WAS A BIGGER TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING TO EVEN TO, TO SHUTTLE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH.
I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT YOUR QUESTION THERE ABOUT THE, UM, THE FLOW, BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE TWO EXITS ON THE SANTA FE, BUT THEN THE NEXT EXIT, IT'S NOT THROUGH MARILYN WILLIAMS ALL THE WAY OVER TO COVILLE, WHICH YOU HAVE TO TRAVERSE THROUGH THE REST OF THE PARK.
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MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING OR THOUGHT PROCESSES MIGHT NEED TO HAPPEN.AND THAT CAN BE INCLUDED LIKE AT THE CITY OF NORMAN WOULD JUST RE RECENTLY REDID THEIR SOCCER COMPLEX, WHERE THEY TOOK BASEBALL FIELDS OUT AND ADDED SOCCER.
AND WITH THAT, THE CITY REQUIRED US TO INCLUDE IN OUR CONTRACT WHEN WE WENT INTO FORMAL DESIGN TO DO A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDY OF THE SITE AND LET THEIR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BASED ON THIS REPORT.
AND WHAT WE HAD TO DO WAS MAKE SOME OF THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY, UM, WE HAD TO DO ANOTHER, UH, TIE IN SOMEWHERE ELSE TO ALLOW THAT, UH, I THINK, AND WE TOOK INTO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN DESIGNING THIS AND LOOKING AT, GOING OUT THE BACKSIDE OF THE PARK, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE THING THAT THEY MADE US DO WAS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A LONG DISTANCE AWAY, THEY MADE US ADD A ROAD IN THE PARK TO GO TO A DIFFERENT SITE WHERE THEY WANTED TO ADD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO IT ALLOWED THAT, THAT FLOW TO GO TO THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS AND TAKE PEOPLE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.
SO LIKE, EVEN THOUGH THE EXIT ON THE SANTA FE, THERE COULD BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY.
SO YOU DON'T BACK UP TRAFFIC TRYING TO TURN LEFT THERE AND MAKE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TURN LEFT, COME DOWN TO TYPE FAST LANE AND BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT AT THE INTERSECTION.
I DO THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD GO TO COBELL.
ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO A MASTER'S STUDY OF THE ENTIRE PART.
AND JUST FOR PEOPLE HERE, WE HAD RUN INTO A PROBLEM WITH NOT ENOUGH FIELDS.
UM, IT MAY BE DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, IT MAY BE OUR LARGEST COMPLAINT OR VOICE FROM CITIZENS.
AND THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THIS BECAUSE WE HAD A MASTER PLAN COMING UP TO DO THIS PARK, AND THIS WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED THEN.
BUT WE, AS A COUNCIL ASKED THEM TO MOVE UP THIS DISCUSSION ON FIELDS BEFORE THE MASTER PLAN.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST VALUABLE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS UP FRONT AND THEN THEY'LL TAKE THE MASTER PLAN.
WE'LL JUST TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY DO IT.
DOES THAT DESCRIBE APPROPRIATELY IT LEAPFROGS? YEAH.
IT LEAKED FROM IF, I MEAN, I GUESS IF YOU, IF YOU REARRANGE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THIS MASTER PLAN WISE, THIS REALLY IS WHERE ABOUT WHERE THIS CAN GO.
IT, THERE'S NOT MANY OTHER OPTIONS.
WE'VE SHOWN SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
YOU CAN ADD SOME MORE FILMS IF YOU WANTED MORE FORMAL FIELDS VERSUS FLEX SPACE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE FLEX SPACE IS KIND OF A PRIORITY ON THIS SITE BASED ON WHAT, WHAT IT IS NOW.
I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU WENT DOWN TO TWO FIELDS, YOU CAN, YOU HAVE OPTIONS HERE.
THESE JUST SHOW YOU THE VARIOUS OPTIONS OF HOW YOU CAN TAKE THE PUZZLE PIECES, MOVE THEM AROUND, ADD SOMETHING TO DO A LITTLE BIT UP FRONT.
AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD MORE FORMAL TO IT LATER, YOU CAN.
SO THERE'S OPTIONS THAT WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL FIELDS, EVEN TO THE THREE SPACE OR THREE FILTERS OPTION TO FOUR.
IT GETS A LITTLE BIT TIGHT JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE EASEMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE CAN'T BUILD ON.
I'LL THROW IN MY 2 CENTS FOR THE FOUR FIELDS AT BROKEN ARROW THAT WAS MENTIONED, AND THEY'VE GOT TWO TURF AND TWO GRASS, BUT IT'S, I MEAN, THE WHOLE COMPLEX, WHEN IT'S USED THE WHOLE AIR, ALL FOUR FIELDS ARE USED.
MY KIDS GREW UP PLAYING THERE AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY SET TO TURF THE OTHER TWO FIELDS.
NOW THEY PASSED IT IN THEIR MOST RECENT BOND ISSUE.
W WE WILL NEVER BE SORRY THAT WE HAVE THESE FIELDS, OR AT LEAST FOUR OF THEM, FOUR OF THEM, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WE SEE THAT DO NOT TURF THEIR FIELDS.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE UPFRONT MONEY TO DO IT.
I MEAN, IN ALL REALITY, THEY ALL WANT IT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, 700,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS A FIELD, IT, IT, IT'S A BIG HIT.
THEN THERE'S ALSO THE LIFECYCLE COSTS WITH IT.
WHATEVER DETERMINATION IS MADE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED.
AND COSTCO'S DRASTICALLY DOWN AT THAT POINT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR SUBBASE, YOU HAVE YOUR DRAINAGE, YOU HAVE ALL THAT STUFF.
SO IT'S NOT THAT SAME 700 TO A MILLION DOLLARS WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT.
AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON IF YOU GO WITH FOUR VERSUS THREE, THE ECONOMY OF SCALE, WHEN THE CONTRACTOR PUTS IT IN, WE'VE SEEN SOME GO AS LOW AS 6, 6 50 A SQUARE FOOT, AND WE'VE SEEN THEM AS HIGH AS EIGHT OR EIGHT 50, WHICH IS KIND OF, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A STICKER SHOCK LATER.
SO WE USE THAT HIGHER NUMBER WHEN WE'RE BUDGETING, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS WILL BE BUILT OR, OR WHO'S GOING TO BE BUILDING IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE COVER OURSELVES ON THAT.
SO THE NUMBERS COULD COME DOWN, THEY COULD GO UP.
I MEAN, GAS PRICES WERE COMING DOWN.
SO SHIPPING GOES DOWN, EVERYTHING GOES DOWN.
I WOULD BE ANXIOUS TO SEE THE PUBLIC'S RESPONSE TO PAYING FOR THE FIELDS FOR THE LEGS TO, I MEAN, OUR KIDS PAY A FEE TO PLAY IN THESE LEAGUES AND I WOULD, I'M REALLY ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD, WHAT THEIR APPETITE IS TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE, TO HAVE A BETTER FIELDS, UM, THAT WILL, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THAT FEEDBACK, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED.
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I WAS GONNA SAY, OH, I WOULD ADD, I WOULD ADD ONE THING INTO THAT IS ONE PLAYER IN THIS AS THE YMCA THAT WE KNOW, THEY'RE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SPORT, UM, PRIVATE SPORT OR OTHER ORGANIZATION THEY'RE GROWING.UH, SO ARE, SO ARE THE YMCA LEAGUES.
AND I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, UM, THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED OF A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THEIR LAND THAT THEY DO YOUTH SOCCER, UH, OVER BY HOBBY LOBBY BEHIND THE HOBBY LOBBY.
AND, UM, AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THEIR FLAT FIELDS.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SET PRICES TO PAY FOR THAT, I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND, WE DO HAVE A PARTNER WITH THE YMCA THAT WE'RE COMMUNITY PARTNER WITH AT THE SAME TIME.
AND IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME THING WITH THEM.
UM, BUT THAT DISCUSSION COULD COME WHEN IT COMES.
BOTH CUSTOMER CHAPMAN AND MORE KIND OF DRESS.
MY CONCERNS, I GUESS, WERE DIRECT QUESTIONS.
TYPICALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THESE LASTS ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 YEARS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO RENEW THEM IS THAT THE, THE TURF FIELDS ARE ABOUT 10 TO 12 YEARS.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE TURF ITSELF.
WHAT'S THE TYPICAL COST TO REPLAY THAT I KNOW YOU'RE QUOTING PER SQUARE FOOT, IS THAT IT'S PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY 60% OF THE ORIGINAL COSTS.
I MEAN, IT'S SOME CALL IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 500,000 INSTEAD OF 700,000.
I MEAN, THERE IS A COST SAVINGS TO IT, BUT IT'S STILL EXPENSIVE.
SO I THINK THAT'S, AS WE FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT OUR PARTNERS, UM, CAUSE IT'S NOT PLAYING ON GRASS.
FIELDS IS PLAYING ON A PREMIUM TURF FIELD AND YOU HAVE TO FIGURE IN LIFECYCLE AND IT MIGHT NOT BE $10 TO RENT FOR AN HOUR.
IT MIGHT BE A SIGNIFICANTLY MORE BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR LIGHTS AND PAY FOR TURF MAINTENANCE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS.
AND YOU STILL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CHROME RUBBER TYPE OF ACTIVE, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF INFILLS NOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE RUBBER ON ALL YOUR FIELDS.
THEY MA THEY HONESTLY, IT'S GONNA SOUND WEIRD.
THEY MAKE A WOODEN WOOD FILAMENT TYPE INFILL.
UM, BUT TYPICALLY THE SPORTS FIELDS ARE THE RUBBER, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME OTHER OPTIONS NOW.
UM, THEN YOU HAVE THE PADDING AND EVERYTHING FOR THE, THE CONCUSSION RATED FIELDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO QUOTE A MOVIE, BUT I WILL.
IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY'LL COME.
I PROMISE IN OKLAHOMA, WE DON'T HAVE MANY TURF FIELDS THERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
AND DESIGNING THESE ACROSS THE STATE.
IF YOU PUT ONE IN PLACE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST USEFUL THING THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY.
SO PART OF THE QUESTION, THE COUNCIL, WHEN WE COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL DETAIL, CRAIG'S GOING TO FIND ABOUT WHAT OUR LEAGUE'S WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE OR, OR PARTICIPATE WITH.
THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY YMCA, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION, IS, ARE THESE PREMIUM FIELDS WE'RE GOING AFTER SPORTS, TOURISM TYPE ACTIVITY, OR ARE YOU WILLING TO PROVIDE A TIME FOR CALLED COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE TURF RATES THAT WE TYPICALLY LOOK FOR? SO WE MAY COME BACK WITH A CALLED CAFETERIA OF OPTIONS TO SAY, IS THIS A, ALSO THE CONCEPT OF INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY IS, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER WITH JENNIFER.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S STILL HERE VISIT EDMOND ABOUT SPORT TOURISM.
WHAT IS THAT? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MAINLY WEEKEND.
HECK TOP TWOS, AND THEN PRACTICES ARE DURING THE WEEK, OR ARE YOU WILLING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR GENERAL USE? THOSE ARE JUST DIFFERENT FINANCIAL MODELS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.
CAUSE YOU MAY, IF YOU OPEN UP FOR GENERAL COMMUNITY USE, YOU MAY BE TAKING MORE REVIEW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING FOR FULL, FULL COST RECOVERY.
WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS.
SO JUST BE AWARE THAT WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN EDMOND TO GO TO BROKEN ARROW EVERY WEEKEND, TO PLAY ON THOSE TURF FIELDS AND, AND SAY IN AIRBNBS AND HOTELS AND EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS.
I WOULDN'T MIND GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
YOU MENTIONED CONCUSSION, RIGHT? SO ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS SAFER TO PLAY ON? THEY CAN PUT FACTORS IN PLACE THAT WILL MAKE IT A SOFTER FIELD THAN HITTING A DIRT GROUND OR A NATURAL GRASS FIELD THAT'S ENCOURAGING.
I CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S CONCUSSION PROVEN WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S BETTER FOR IMPACT, BUT WHAT IT IS IS OPTIONS OUT THERE AND ALL OF IT, EVERY OPTION HAS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
MOST OF WHAT WE JUST TOLD YOU SHOULD INCLUDE THAT TYPE OF OPTION TO PUT AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF PADDING UNDERNEATH IT, WHETHER IT'S THE HIGHEST RATED OR THE LOWEST RATED, IT WILL HAVE SOME TYPE OF PADDING UNDERNEATH IT.
SO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS GOING TO COME INTO US.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE, WE LOOKED AT OUR AGENDA AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THEIR AGENDA THAT THAT WOULD WARRANT THIS MANY PEOPLE BEING IN HERE.
SO EVIDENTLY SOME OF Y'ALL MUST BE IN HERE FOR THIS SUBJECT.
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MY KRESKIN HATS IS ON RIGHT NOW.SO, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO UP, IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR ANY COMMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE AUDIENCE IF THERE'S THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR RIGHT NOW, WE MIGHT CALL YOU BACK UP LATER.
IF, IF ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC HAD ANY COMMENTS THAT FROM WHAT THEY'VE SEEN OR HEARD SO FAR ABOUT THAT, UM, AND THE THING IS, IS JUST TO COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF WHO YOU ARE, UH, IF YOU'RE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THESE ACTIVITIES, LET US KNOW THAT.
AND JUST GIVE US YOUR AS BRIEFLY AS POSSIBLE YOUR COMMENTS, BECAUSE WE ARE, WE'RE STILL IN THE INFANCY.
NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT WE DO WANT THE, THE, UM, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS ALSO FOR THAT, I'LL DO IT.
W I'M GOING TO GO ON BODY MOVEMENT.
IN THE BLUE, YOU STANDING UP, YOU WERE FIRST.
I'M, I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT THE SCHOOL WILL IMPACT, BUT I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE ALL THE WAY TO THE FAR LEFT, WHERE THAT ROAD RIGHT THERE.
UM, MY CONCERN, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS, IS I LIKE ALL THIS.
I THINK IT'D BE WONDERFUL FOR THE CITY OF EDMONTON.
UM, BUT HOW'S IT GOING TO AFFECT THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE? UM, ARE WE GOING TO BE WHITING THE STREETS? I HEARD RUMORS THAT I WAS GOING TO LOSE A BIG CHUNK OF MY PROPERTY TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE NEW TRAFFIC FLOW AND THINGS.
SO I WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERNS, UM, IN, IN REFERENCE TO THAT, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA.
I, I LIVED, I'VE BEEN LIVE, I'VE LIVED THERE, BEEN WHEN THIS WAS A, JUST A, UH, A, UH, A, A, A WHEAT FIELD WHEN I USED TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT WITH A CUP OF COFFEE AND SIT OUT THERE AND WATCH THE GEESE COME IN AND LAND AND STUFF.
SO, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THE WHOLE PART DEVELOP FROM NOTHING TO, TO THIS.
AND THIS IS WONDERFUL ADDITION.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT, BUT I ALSO, I'M NOT REAL CRAZY ABOUT LOSING A CHUNK OF MY LAND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WIDEN SANTA FE AND TAKE A LARGE CHUNK.
CAUSE I LIVE, MY WHOLE PROPERTY IS ON THE SANTA FE ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN.
SO I RUN FROM THAT CORNER THAT YOU JUST SHOWED ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT WHITE, UH, PARKING LOT THERE.
THAT'S MY WHOLE PROPERTY THERE.
AND I JUST HEARD RUMORS ABOUT A BIG ROUNDABOUT AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MIGHT GO IN THERE.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE IS THAT, UH, I WAS JUST CONCERNED ON HOW MUCH PROPERTY I MAY LOSE AND HOW WOULD I BE COMPENSATED FOR THIS WITH IS WHAT, HOW DOES THIS DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT AFFECT ME? SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS.
HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A SCRIBE FROM THE ART POINT THAT WE CAN TAKE THESE DOWN.
SO WE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTROL HERE IS THE MANAGEMENT OF INFORMATION THAT'S GOING OUT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE EVER HEARD OF A, ABOUT COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, RUMORS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE THE COMMUNICATION LEVEL OF INPUT, OUTPUT OF INFORMATION.
SO THAT, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE NON-USERS MY QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS THING AFFECTS OTHER PEOPLE, SO WE JUST HAVE TO WORK ON THAT AND WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR RESPONSES BACK AS WE, UH, AS MR. DISHMAN GETS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
YOU MA'AM YOU THERE AGAINST THE WALL UNDERNEATH THE WAGON? YES.
YOU PLEASE TELL US WHO YOU ARE YOU ASSOCIATED WITH ANY GROUP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? MA'AM THANK YOU.
I'M SAM ANDERSON AND I AM YOUR CHAIR PERSON FOR YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.
I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF BEFORE I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD JUST OVER TWO YEARS AND AS CHAIR, JUST FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO BRING TO THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS THAT FIRST OF ALL, I, AND I CAN NOT IN ANY WAY, REPRESENT THE BOARD IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY AND SPEAK FOR THEM.
I CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US AT OUR MEETING.
LAST THURSDAY, WE TABLED IT FOR NEXT MONTH BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THERE WERE A MULTITUDE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD THAT JUST COULDN'T BE ANSWERED YET.
THAT, UM, THERE ALSO PERHAPS HAD NOT BEEN, I KNOW THAT, UM, MR. MOORE REFERENCED, UM, UH, CONNECTIONS MEETING TO
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START A DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMUNITY.UM, AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
AND SOMETIMES I THINK THAT PERHAPS THE COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BEGIN BEFORE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS SPENT ON PUTTING TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN PROJECTION, UH, THAT WOULD UTILIZE THE LAST OPEN FIELD.
ONE OF THE LAST, I BELIEVE IT IS THE LAST, UH, OPEN FIELD IN OUR CITY LIMITS.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR SUPPORTING OUR YOUTH, ESPECIALLY ONCE THAT COULD EARN THEM A SCHOLARSHIP.
UH, LACROSSE IS AN UPCOMING SPORT, UM, JUST LIKE SOCCER AND VOLLEYBALL.
AND THESE KIDS, THEY DEVELOP AND THEY GROW IN THE SPORT AND THEY CAN APPLY TO SCHOOL AND IT BECOMES AN AVENUE TO BETTER THEIR CAREERS.
UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, THERE IS SOME GRACE ABOUT AN OPEN FIELD, MULTIPLE USE SPACE.
UM, I PERSONALLY CAN SPEAK JUST FROM WHAT I SAW FROM THE PRESENTATION THE OTHER NIGHT, I HAVE A GREAT CONCERN.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE AS MUCH OPEN SPACE TO REMAIN AS POSSIBLE.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, UM, FEEL ALL OF THE REMAINING OPEN SPACE.
UM, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF ACTIVITIES THAT MAY BE AREN'T ON THE SAME SCALE AS PERHAPS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE HOPING FOR MR. CHAPMAN WITH, UM, BRINGING IN SPORTS DOLLARS FOR, UH TOURNAMENT'S.
UM, UH, AND I AM ALL FOR DEVELOPING THE REST OF OUR COMPLEXES, UH, THAT ALL THE ONES, THE PROJECTS, THIS WE'VE ALREADY STARTED, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO FRUITION.
AND, UH, AND THAT BRINGS IN TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TAX DOLLARS TO OUR CITY.
AND THAT'S FANTASTIC AND IT SUPPORTS OUR YOUTH, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO GO SLOWLY AND OPEN UP A DIALOGUE SOONER THAN LATER, UH, WITH THE CITIZENS, WITH STUDENTS, WITH PARENTS AND WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS MITCHELL PARK FOR THE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE.
UM, THERE IS A GREAT BONUS TO HAVING A COMPLEX LIKE THIS.
I KNOW MR. TAPPIN, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU THINK WE'LL NEVER REGRET HAVING THESE FIELDS.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN POINT TO BE MADE THAT THAT IS A SOLID TRUTH, BUT ALSO THERE'S A SOLID TRUTH IN LOSING THE LAST OPEN FIELD AND US.
WE, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE SHIRTS? HAVE YOU BEEN TO THOSE FIELDS LATELY? THE OPEN FIELD OUT THERE? HAVE YOU BEEN THERE LATELY? YES.
I DRIVE PAST IT ALMOST EVERY DAY.
I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY, I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN ANYBODY OUT THERE AND I'M UP THERE A LOT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD.
IT'S IN MY ESTIMATION ALMOST UNUSABLE MAYBE TO GO FLY KITES, BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ON THAT LAND RIGHT NOW.
MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, I HAVE WITNESSED STEM, MULTIPLE THINGS, PEOPLE WALKING, DOGS, I'VE WITNESSED THE KITE FLYING.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN HERE, I THINK WHO CAME TO OUR MEETING.
WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT LIBERTY FEST AND, AND THE USE OF IT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN, UM, THE LOG CLIMBING, THE POLE CLIMBING COMPETITIONS.
UM, I DIDN'T COME PREPARED WITH A LIST OF EVERYTHING I'VE OBSERVED OUT THERE, BUT, UM, COMING AND GOING TO THE PARK, I HAVE SERVED A GREAT DEAL OF ACTIVITY.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, I'LL BRING MY COMMENTS TO A CLOSE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UM, THAT YOUR BOARD IS HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.
WE WERE APPOINTED ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD WERE APPOINTED BY CITY MAYORS, CURRENT OR FORMER, AND NOBODY ON THE BOARD NEEDS THAT POSITION TO FULFILL SOMETHING ON THE RESUME.
BUT OUR BOARD IS MADE UP OF ALL PROFESSIONALS FROM ALL WALKS OF THE CITY HERE, AND THEY AGREED TO UPHOLD THE CHARTER.
THAT'S CREATED BY THE CITY OF EDMONTON TO PROTECT GREEN SPACES.
AND SO WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE SEND YOU RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM, AND JUST HOPE THAT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT WE CAN MAKE OUR STRONG RECOMMENDATION OF WHICH YOU'VE ENTRUSTED US TO LOOK AT AND JUST HAVE OVERSIGHT.
AND, UH, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE, UH, A VERY HEAVY YOKE AS LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
T-SHIRT I KNOW THAT YOU GOT TO MY NAME.
I AM CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF LIBERTY FAST, AND I HAVE BEEN THE CHAIRPERSON OF KITE FEST FOR THE LAST 32 YEARS.
AND SO THEY, AND, AND TH THAT FIELD IS
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A LOT MORE THAN JUST A PIECE OF HARD GROUND WHERE HARDLY ANY GRASS ON IT.THE MEN KEEP THAT WELL, MOWED AND TAKEN CARE OF.
I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY AROUND A LOT OF ADMIN LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN OCCASIONS IN THE PAST WHEN WE WERE POSSIBLY GOING TO LOSE THE FIELD, AS FAR AS OUR KITE FEST FIELD FOR THE LIBERTY FEST GUIDE FEST.
AND I HAVE YET TO FIND ANOTHER FIELD THAT THAT WOULD SERVE THE PURPOSE.
THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO SERVE THE PURPOSE FOR A KITE FESTIVAL.
THIS IS THE LAST LARGE FIELD WITHOUT A POWER LINES DIRECTLY AFFECTING THE FIELD OR THE FLYING AREA.
MOSTLY WE FLY IN SOUTH WINDS OR NORTH WINDS HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
THE, THE, THERE ARE POWER LINES AND WHATEVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FIELD AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FIELD, THAT RARELY IF EVER OVER THE LAST 20 OR 25 YEARS HAVE AFFECTED THE USE OF THE FIELD FOR A KITE FESTIVAL.
SO I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING FOR KITE FAST.
I SAT DOWN TODAY AND I WILL NOT GO OVER, BUT I MADE A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT SPORTS.
IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT EVERYTHING FROM HORSESHOES TO A THREE-YEAR OLDS, PRACTICING SOCCER ON THE FIELD, UH, I'VE, I'VE SEEN THE RUGBY TEAM A TIME OR TWO IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
AND IT MAY BE THAT I JUST DON'T REMEMBER ALL THAT I'VE SEEN OUT THERE, BUT THE DIFFERENT, NOT JUST THE KITE, THE KITE FLYING THAT WE DO, OR WHATEVER, THE SOCCER PRACTICE, THE FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, ALL OF THAT.
SO ON THAT FIELD, I EVEN FIND GOLF BALLS.
SO I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING OUT.
THEY'RE PROBABLY PRACTICING, I DON'T KNOW THE TERMINOLOGY, PROBABLY DRIVING AND LOSING GOLF BALLS OUT THERE ON THE FIELD.
WE USE THEM TO MAKE STEAKS TO HOLD OUR KITES.
WE DRILL HOLES IN THE GOLF BALL, PUT A METAL PIN THROUGH IT AND MAKE STEAKS TO HOLD ARCHIVES.
SO WE WATCH FOR GOLF BALLS, UH, JUST ANY NUMBER OF FIELDS.
I HAVEN'T EVEN TAKEN THE TIME TO COUNT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPENED ON THAT FIELD.
AND, AND AS WAS JUST, UH, EXPRESSED.
I HATE TO SEE THE LAST LARGE FIELD OPEN FIELD AND ADMIN GO TO ANOTHER DECORATED FIELD.
WHEN I WITNESSED REAL QUICKLY, I WITNESSED SATURDAY ANOTHER TOURNAMENT OF SOME SORT GOING ON ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER NEXT TO, UM, CHEYENNE MIDDLE SCHOOL BETWEEN CHEYENNE AND KELLY NORTH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COVILLE.
I COULD HAVE BEEN A LACROSSE TOURNAMENT GOING ON, RIGHT THEN I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT LAND IS OPTIONAL RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS PURCHASE AND A LACROSSE FIELD COULD BE ESTABLISHED THE FOUR COURT OR WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY IS FOR.
IT COULD BE ESTABLISHED ON THAT FIELD.
IF THE EDMUND SCHOOLS ARE GETTING READY TO SELL THAT LAND, AS I HAVE HEARD ANYWAY, UH, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING FURTHER THAN I WANT TO ADD.
OTHER THAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IN AUTHORITY THAT GOT TO SPEAK TO THE PARTS DEPARTMENT ABOUT THIS WHAT'S, WHAT'S TAKING PLACE.
AND, AND I HEARD ABOUT IT LAST WEDNESDAY, INADVERTENTLY NOT A DIRECT COMMUNICATION.
AND SO IF, IF LIBERTY FEST WAS NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS TO HAVE THEIR INPUT INTO WHAT WAS GOING ON, I WASN'T INFORMED THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON LIBERTY.
AND YOU'RE WELCOME, GENTLEMEN, RIGHT HERE.
WITH THE GOATEE, HERE'S YOUR NAME? ARE YOU ASSOCIATED WITH ANY GROUP OR JUST CONCERNED CITIZEN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY? I CAME HERE TONIGHT.
REALLY? I REVIEWED THE AGENDA.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS WALTZ STRONG I'M, UH, EDMUND RETURNEE.
UH, I'VE LIVED IN NORMAN FOR 20 YEARS AND I WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN SOME OF THEIR TRANSPORTATION STUDIES.
SO THE GENTLEMAN THAT GAVE THIS PRESENTATION SAID, YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT A TRANSPORTATION STUDY.
I JUST PUT IT ON, PUT IT ON THE LIST OF MANDATORY TO DO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PARKING LOT AND YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES THAT COULD COME AND GO, PEOPLE COMING AND GOING IN AND OUT THOSE LIMITED NUMBER OF SPOTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MESS.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND FIGURE OUT
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HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC FLOW.I THINK WE HAVE ONE, ONE LAST, A GENTLEMAN OVER HERE, OR DID GRAY SHIRT ON, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME'S DAVID FLEET AND HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE AGAIN.
UM, I'M ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS THAT HAVE MET WITH, UH, PARK AND REC AND IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, LET ME FIRST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE PROGRESSIVENESS, UH, THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED HERE AND, UH, REALLY ON REPRESENTING, UH, AROUND A THOUSAND EDMUND FAMILIES.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PROGRAM.
OUR YOUTH FLAG FOOTBALL AID GOES FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH SIXTH GRADE, AS WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE.
AND RIGHT NOW THIS PARTICULAR SEASON, WHICH KICKS OFF AUGUST 26TH, UH, WE'VE HAD TO REALLY SCRAMBLE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO APPLY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING TO USE BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND WE'RE HAVING TO USE ONE PRIVATE FACILITY, UH, AND SCORE OKC.
AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT EDMOND SOCCER CLUB HAS ALLOWED US TO USE, UH, FOUR OF THEIR SOCCER FIELDS AND PUT FNL FIELDS ON THERE.
SO MY, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION AND APPRECIATION FOR THIS WOULD BE THE FOUR FOOTBALL FIELDS, AS YOU MENTIONED, ALTHOUGH I AM, I'M VERY MUCH FOR, UH, RETAINING SOME OF THE COMMON AREA.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE 30 ACRES AND WHAT THIS REPRESENTS, IT MIGHT BE 30, 35% OF THE 30 ACRES, WHICH LEAVES ABOUT 65 OR 70% FOR OTHER USE, BUT YOU'VE GOT A THOUSAND FAMILIES THAT WANT TO APPLY.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO TURN KIDS AWAY THIS SEASON BECAUSE WE SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE FACILITIES TO PLAY OUT.
AS A REMINDER, WE PLAY ON FRIDAY NIGHTS, WE PLAY UNDER THE LIGHTS AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN, WE WOULD PAY MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW, BECAUSE THESE PARTICULAR FIELDS WILL FAR EXCEED WHERE WE'RE PLAYING.
NOW, WE'RE PLAYING ON HARD FIELDS.
WE'RE PLAYING ON FIELDS THAT AREN'T QUITE AS SAFE AS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE.
AND, UH, UH, JUST ONE LAST THING REAL QUICK IS THAT THERE WAS AN ARTICLE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO FROM THE AP, FROM THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE THAT IS RECOMMENDING A PROPOSING THAT FLAG FOOTBALL BEING THE 28 OLYMPICS.
IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT THAT THERE IS.
AND AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT A THOUSAND FAMILIES HERE IN, IN ADMIN ALONE.
UH, SOME OF WHICH UNFORTUNATELY ARE GOING TO GO DOWN TO MORE IMPLY AND MORE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FACILITIES HERE, SOME OF WHICH ARE GOING TO CHOCTAW PLAY.
UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE FOUR FIELDS BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US 12 F AND L FIELDS, PLENTY OF PARKING.
UM, I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, THAT, BUT JUST KNOW, AND THAT WE WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER IN ANY TYPE OF, UM, MAINTENANCE OR TRASH PICKUP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS HERE.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL COMMENT, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GENERATED, AND A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED.
I LOVE THE COMMUNICATION, UH, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS A GREAT PROBLEM FOR US TO HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE THIS, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE GROWING ACTIVITIES AND WHAT TO DO AND ALL THAT.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE COMMUNICATION.
AND MR. DISHMAN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE HOOK TO DEGENERATE THAT FOR US.
DID WE GIVE YOU ALL WHAT YOU NEEDED TO KNOW? OKAY.
MANDY, DID WE GIVE YOU EVERYTHING? I FEEL LIKE WE DIDN'T, I WAS GETTING READY TO HAVE A SIDE QUESTION.
ANDY CONNIERS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ADMINISTRATION.
AND, UM, I THINK W I THINK WE HEARD SOME OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW, BUT AS OF NOW THAT THE SCOPE FOR PDG IS COMPLETE.
SO THIS WAS JUST GOING TO BE SOME CONCEPTUAL PLANNING.
SO I THINK THE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IS I WOULD PROPOSE, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD ON AN, ON A JOINT PATH OF DOING SOME STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THIS FACILITY, BUT THEN ALSO MOVING TO DESIGN PHASE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE US TO START WORKING WITH PDG ON THE FULL BLOWN DESIGN, OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO AT FIRST, JUST GATHER SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS OF THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO DESIGN.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.
IF YOU'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE ON DESIGN, WE WILL NEED TO START NEGOTIATING WITH PDC.
I'LL GIVE YOU MY FEEDBACK IS WE NEED THESE FIELDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
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AND MEET WITH PEOPLE AND FIND OUT WHAT THE PEOPLE'S APPETITE IS FOR US TO DO THIS.THEN WHEN YOU FIND OUT HOW, HOW WE GET THE MONEY TO DO IT, AND THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH DAVID AND WHOEVER ELSE IS GOING TO USE THESE FIELDS IS WILLING TO PAY, TO USE THEM.
AND WE NEED TO BUILD A MODEL SO THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS, BECAUSE I JUST SPEAK FOR ME.
I WANT TO, I WANT FIELDS NEXT YEAR.
SO I THINK MY, I, AND I THINK THIS, I THINK IT CAN WORK THIS WAY, WHERE IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN COMMUNITY, CONNECTIONS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
ALL, NO DOUBT, YOU NEED TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND, AND PROBABLY GATHER IT MAY BE TWO, BUT GATHER THEIR CONCERNS IN AN ORGANIZED MANNER.
AND THEN DURING DESIGN, AS DESIGN COMES, AT SOME POINT, THERE'LL BE A TIME TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME ANSWERS.
YOU BETTER DO THAT, WHETHER IT'S AFTER THE TRAFFIC STUDY OR, UM, OR WHETHER IT'S 30 OR 60% DESIGN, OKAY, WE'RE READY TO, TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THESE THINGS.
IF, IF I WERE, IF I WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO INVEST IN, UM, WE'VE SEEN COMPLEXES AT BROKEN ARROW.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE SAME NEEDS THAT, THAT THEY HAD WHEN THEY DID IT, SAME TEAM, SAME SPORTS.
UM, SO WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT GOOD INFORMATION AND DATA THAT THIS DOES WORK, UM, ABOUT WHEREVER IT IS.
AND SO I'M, I'M, I'M OPTIMISTIC ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
I DO THINK THAT'S A COMPONENT OF IT TO BE PRUDENT IN THIS PROJECT AND THIS, AND ALSO, SO THEY CAN START THEIR PLANNING OF WHEN YOU KNOW, OF THEIR FUTURE SEASONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO I I'M I'M FOR MOVING FORWARD, BUT, BUT DOING THOSE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME AND I, AND I THINK WE WOULD, AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE FROM ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH, THEY, THESE GUYS ARE SIGNING UP KIDS EARLY AND THEY GET DON'T KNOW WHAT OPTIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE, OR FIELDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY ON.
SO PARENTS ARE ASKED, I'VE GOT, PARENTS ARE ASKING AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO IN MULTIPLE SPORTS.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, BUT BOTTOM LINE, WE THERE'S A CONSENSUS.
YES, WE WANT THE FIELDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE ALSO GOTTA BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE OTHER ELEMENTS IN THERE, HOW MUCH STAKEHOLDERS ARE GOING TO PAY AND HOW MUCH THE TOTAL LIFE CYCLE OF IS GOING TO BE.
SO, SO WE CAN GO FORWARD AND MAKE A DECISION.
WELL, AND I THINK TOO, I'M JUST HEARING THE CONCERN FOR HAVING OPEN SPACE.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST OPEN SPACE AREAS IN PARKS AND TO OUR WORKSHOP EARLIER THAT, UM, UH, WAS VERY INTERESTING TALKING ABOUT FUTURE NEEDS.
I MEAN, DO WE LOOK AT ACQUIRING MORE LAND FOR PARK SPACE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME OPEN SPACE AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, CAUSE WE DO NEED THIS.
UM, AND THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND.
UM, I ALSO THINK IT'S A GREAT REVENUE GENERATOR AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.
I'M CURIOUS IF THE SPACE THAT IS LEFT THERE IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR KITE FEST.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR A LARGE ENOUGH SPACE FOR SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO, OR DO WE NEED TO FIND SOME ALTERNATE OPEN SPACE? SO I, I THINK IT'S, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT HEARING THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, AND THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALSO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE AND BALANCE SOME NEEDS AND SHOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE FOR THAT TOO, FOR MORE OPEN SPACE.
IT'S ON, IT'S CONSISTENTLY BEEN ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO LOOK EAST AND PLAN AND KNOW ARCADIA LAKE 22 ACRES OF CONSERVATION.
UM, WE, WE ABSOLUTELY DO THINK ABOUT OPEN SPACE AND SO NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT AS WELL.
THAT WE'RE, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD POINT.
I MEAN, THE 22 ACRES, UM, SOUTH OF HEYFORD PARK THAT THE CITY PURCHASED THAT IS FOR CONSERVATION AND OPEN, THERE WILL NOT BE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
SO WE ARE, AND WE KNOW FOR SOMETHING LIKE GOT FEST IS ANOTHER CONVERSATION TO HAVE TO, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'VE GOT THE SCULPTURE PARK AND IT'S 60 ACRES AT, UH, AT SECOND CULTURING, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A BIG DO IT.
AND SO WE'RE, UH, ARE THERE MAYBE ALTERNATE SITES FOR SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES, CONCERNS ARE GOOD, BUT THE CONVERSATION IS, IS BIGGER TOO, UH, WITH, WITH THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DELAY ANYTHING.
WE KNOW THE NEED IS THERE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THE NEED IS THERE.
UM, AND I AGREE WITH ALL THESE OPEN SPACINGS AND THERE'S SO MANY GREAT PLACES THAT WE CAN LOOK TO.
MY GRANDCHILDREN AND MYSELF, I LOVE THE KITE FEST.
AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF EDMOND, I DON'T THINK WE'LL LET THAT GO AWAY.
SO IF WE NEED TO FIND ALTERNATIVE PLACES FOR IT, IF THIS IS NOT ENOUGH OPEN SPACE,
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UH, SO BE IT, WE WILL.UM, BUT I, I JUST HATE TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE GET DELAYED WHEN WE KNOW THE NEED IS THERE.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
[2. Report and Discussion from Jeff Ludlam of Edmond Youth Sports Association (EYSA) on operations to date of youth baseball and softball. ]
REPORT IN DISCUSSION FROM JEFFI GET TO INTRODUCE AGAIN, MARION COUNCIL IN DECEMBER, WE ENTERED AN AGREEMENT WITH EDMOND NEW SPORTS ASSOCIATION TO, UH, MANAGE THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL PROGRAMS. AND, UH, WE COMMITTED THAT, THAT TIME TO IMPLEMENTING SOME STEPS FOR ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE PROGRAM.
AND TONIGHT WE'VE ASKED, UH, JEFF LUDLAM WITH, UH, UISA TO GIVE A REVIEW OF THEIR PERFORMANCE SO FAR TO DATE.
MY NAME'S JEFF LUDLAM AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF USA.
I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU OUR STATE OF THE UNION FOR WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE SPRING.
AND SO, AS YOU RECALL, LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS DECEMBER 28TH.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
AND WE WERE OBVIOUSLY BEHIND FROM A REGISTRATIONS CAUSE REGISTRATIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO START IN OCTOBER, BUT I TOLD YOU AT THE TIME I'D GET THE LEAGUE STARTED ON TIME AND DONE.
WE REGISTERED, UH, THE MOST EVER 1,712 KIDS IN OUR SPRING LEAGUE.
THAT'S JUST OVER A THOUSAND GAMES WE PLAYED AND WE HAD 76, MORE THAN 76,000 PARTICIPANTS COME THROUGH OUR GATES.
WE ENDED UP HOLDING EIGHT TOURNAMENTS, INCLUDING, UH, THE STATE TOURNAMENT.
AND THE WORLD SERIES AND OUR ESTIMATED AND ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE CITY WAS $6 MILLION IN THE SPRING.
SO IN THE SUMMER WE, UH, RAN THE FIRST EVER SUMMER LEAGUE THAT USUALLY THOSE PARKS AREN'T RUNNING.
SO WE, WE, WE DECIDED TO OPEN THEM UP AND GET THE KIDS PLAYING.
AND WE'VE GOT 238 REGISTRANTS FOR OUR SUMMER LEE.
AND THEY'RE NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, WE OPENED UP FALL REGISTRATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'D BEAT THE HIGHEST EVER BY 200, WE'VE GOT A 1100 REGISTRANT'S HAS UP TODAY IN OUR FOLLY, WHICH WILL START IN SEPTEMBER.
ONCE OUR, UH, SUMMER LEAGUE ENDS UP AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A HOST OF TOURNAMENT'S COMING UP THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN OUT.
AND SO I LIKE TO HEAR QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE OR DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, HAS CROSSED MY MIND A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS TIMING AND, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT THE LEAGUE OPENED AND YOU, AND YOU DID IT AND YOU FINISHED IT.
AND WITH RECORD NUMBERS AND NOW NEW RECORD NUMBERS IN THE FALL THAT I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE MIGHT HAVE A TENDENCY TO SAY, WE'RE EDMUND.
AND OF COURSE YOU WANT TO BE HERE AND, AND OPERATE OUR FACILITY AND EVERYTHING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ENOUGH TIMES WE SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU? AND, AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH, UM, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH ONE SEASON AND THIS, AND SO YOU'VE LEARNED THE FACILITY A LITTLE BIT AND YOU'VE LEARNED EDMUND AND, AND THE, AND THE PARENTS AND THE LEAGUE.
WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU? SURE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FACED, UH, WAS EVERYONE WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RENOVATIONS WOULD BE DONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
CAUSE OBVIOUSLY NO DIRT WAS MOVED, BUT THEY THOUGHT LIKE WHEN WE OPENED IN MARCH THAT IT WAS A NEW PART AND THEN THEY CAME IN AND THEY LIKE, WHY DIDN'T IT? AND THEY ASKED ME WHY I DIDN'T DO THE RENOVATIONS.
AND THEN WHAT DID I DO WITH THE MONEY? I WAS LIKE, HOLD ON.
IT'S IT'S, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT DOES ANY OF THAT.
BUT THERE WAS THAT YES, THERE WAS THAT CONFUSION.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT THING THEY SAID WAS, AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS JUST HEARD A LOT OF IS ARE WE GETTING TURF FIELDS? AND I, UH, EXPRESS, NO, THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, SECONDARILY THAT IT MITCH AND HAY FOR CAPLINGER THE, UH, THE BATHROOMS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO HIM AT KAPLAN, JARED'S OPEN AIR BATHROOM AND LIKE THE GIRL'S BATHROOM, YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR STANDING OUTSIDE.
CAUSE IT'S JUST A ROLL-UP DOOR YOU CAN SEE IN.
AND, UM, THERE AREN'T AUTOMATIC FLUSHERS AND IT JUST, IT'S NOT VERY CONDUCIVE.
AND THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT WE GET IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO WHEN THEY GO TO OTHER FACILITIES CORRECT DAY.
SO WE, I MEAN, I KNOW WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, WE DISCUSSED, I THINK WENT BACK WHEN WE APPROVED YOUR CONTRACT, THAT WE WANTED YOU TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE PROJECT COMING UP AND THROW IN POINTERS HERE AND THERE.
AND I, AND I THINK I HEAR THAT YOU HAVE, BUT I THINK THE SECOND THING WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND CUSTOMERS AND CLIENTS, IF, UH, IF AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT GOT DONE AND, AND WE KNOW THAT'S COMING, I THINK BIDS CLOSED TOMORROW.
IF I SAW THE DATE CORRECTLY, IT'S NOW AUGUST 3RD IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
AND I KNOW THAT THE EXPECTATIONS WERE PROBABLY
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NOT APPROPRIATE THAT WERE PUT ON YOU FROM THE, FROM THE FAMILIES THAT USE THE PLACE, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF ANTICIPATION THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE OPERATOR CHANGED, THAT THE FIELDS WERE GOING TO GET BETTER AND WE JUST CAN'T DO THAT.SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK OUT THERE.
AND I HOPE THAT, UH, WE CAN GET GOING WITH THE NEW PROJECT AND GET YOU SOME BETTER FIELDS.
I THINK IN THE END, IN THE END, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN HAVE ANY MUCH BETTER PERFORMANCE WITHOUT A BETTER PRODUCT OUT THERE, BETTER FIELDS.
AND I KNOW THE FAMILIES ARE ALL EXCITED.
THEY NOW UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROJECT IS GOING TO GO INTO PHASES.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING.
I JUST HOPE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEMAND IS ON YOUTH SPORTS ON US IS TREMENDOUS FROM EVERY SINGLE AREA.
UM, AND THEN YOU THROW IN GOLF BALL TENNIS, IT'S AMAZING, UH, THE EXPECTATIONS OF THIS COMMUNITY ON WHAT IT IS YOU DO.
AND WE DO TO PROVIDE THEM RESOURCES AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
CAN WE PUT IN YOUR CONTRACT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HEAT FOR RAIN? SO TRUE.
WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM FROM COUNCIL? WELL, I THINK JUST TO ADD, I MEAN, WE, WE HAD RECEIVED COMPLAINTS, BATHROOMS, AND TRASH CANS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MANAGER AND OTHERS, THAT COMMUNICATION IS HAPPENING WITH THE CITY, WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION TO DO WHAT WE CAN, UM, PRIOR TO SOME OF THE, THE PROJECT GETTING FINISHED.
AND I THINK WE HAD A STRATEGIC WORKSHOP THIS AFTERNOON AND THE COUNCIL IS REALLY, UH, AND, AND STAFF ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON GETTING THESE PROJECTS COMPLETED AND MOVING AND KEEPING THEM MOVING.
SO, UM, JUST ENCOURAGE KIND OF TO HIS POINT, TO COMMUNICATE BACK TO THE CITY, THINGS THAT WE CAN PARTNER TOGETHER AND, AND, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS AND MAKE PEOPLE HAPPIER.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION AND EXPECTATION TOO.
I THINK THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT MIGHT GET TIRED CAUSE I TOLD THEM EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
SO THEY ARE, UH, THEY, THEY MAY GET TIRED OF HEARING EVERYTHING, BUT I, I STILL TELL THEM THEY HEAR IT FROM, WE GET IT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND THEY HEAR IT FROM, FROM THAT SIDE TOO.
UM, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP AND, AND FIGURE OUT HOW THE CITY CAN BEST HELP YOU SERVE ARE OUR RESIDENTS ARE ESPECIALLY IN THE INTERIM WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO DO THE BELT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THINGS TAKE TIME, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE THINGS AND GET THEM ROCKING AND ROLLING.
BUT YEAH, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP IN THE INTERIM, LET US KNOW I WILL DO IT.
CONGRATULATIONS ON RECORD NUMBERS.
WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT WELL, HAVING THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, WHERE YOU CAN MOVE ON.
SO THE REST OF THESE ARE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. UH, COUNSEL, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL ANYTHING FROM 5 8, 3, 4, 5, 6 OR SEVEN? I DON'T KNOW.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, SORRY.
IT'S CDBG DOLLARS SWIFT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON ITEMS 3, 4, 5, AND SIX, IF YOU WANT.
OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ITEMS? FIVE MOTION TO APPROVE.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO, UM, FIVE
[7. Final Public Hearing and the Consideration of Acceptance for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) FFY 2022 Annual Action Plan.]
ON 5, 8, 7.THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR WORKSHOP.
I AM KRISTI BATTERSON, THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.
UM, IT'S MY HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR FISCAL FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 22 ACTION PLAN.
UM, SO THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S.
UM, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT IS A FEDERAL FUNDING ALLOCATED THAT IS SET BY CONGRESS ANNUALLY AND, UM, ADMINISTERED THROUGH HUD.
UM, THE FUNDING ALLOCATIONS ARE BEST BASED ON FORMULAS OF THE NUMBER OF, UH, LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS, AS WELL AS OUR HOUSING STOCK, THE POVERTY LEVELS DETERIORATED HOUSING AND CONDITIONS.
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I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS EVENING THAT YOU WILL NOT BE HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OKLAHOMA COMMERCE GRANT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE 1.7 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, AND CARES FUNDING THROUGH THEM.THIS THAT'S A SEPARATE, UM, ALLOCATION.
WE ARE SUB-RECIPIENTS OF THE STATE FOR THAT.
THIS IS OUR ENTITLEMENT, UM, FUNDING.
UM, ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITIES HERE IN OKLAHOMA CDBG PROGRAM IS TO DEVELOP THE VIABLE URBAN COMMUNITY.
UM, NATIONAL OBJECTIVES ARE TO BENEFIT BASICALLY BOTTOM LINE, THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
YOU'LL HEAR ME CALL IT LMI THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, IT'S TO AID IN THE PREVENTION OR ELIMINATION OF SLUM AND BLIGHT.
AND OF COURSE, UM, THE URGENT NEED OR, UM, THE, THAT WE SAW IN LIKE THE PANDEMIC, UM, WHERE THEY RELEASED MORE FUNDS IF NEEDED.
UM, WE TRY TO FOCUS ON ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT HERE IN EDMOND, WHICH ARE OUR LOI, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES OR HOUSING REHABILITATION OR HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE AND ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE.
AND PUBLIC FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
HUD REQUIRES US TO DO A FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATION PLAN.
UM, YOU ALL APPROVED THAT BACK IN 2020.
UM, WE ARE IN OUR THIRD YEAR AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS A PLAN THAT WE LOOK AT AND HAVE TO PROJECT KIND OF LIKE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
UM, WE, UH, CONSIDER ALL, UM, RESOURCES.
WE IDENTIFY HOUSING AND COMMUNITY NEEDS AND THEN EACH ANNUAL YEAR OR EACH YEAR THEREAFTER, UM, WE CARRY OUT WHAT IS SET IN OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT IS ALSO DONE WITH OUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE.
UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CITIZEN CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN THAT OUTLINES HOW WE ALLOCATE OUR FUNDING WHEN WE HAVE TO DO AMENDMENTS, UM, AND, UM, WHO GETS WHAT MONEY.
AND WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS ON THERE THAT MEET FOR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND HELP US DECIDE HOW WE ALLOCATE OUR FUNDING.
UM, OUR CDBG FUNDING DOES HAVE LIMITS.
UNFORTUNATELY, UM, WE ARE SET AT A 15% MAX THAT WE CAN GIVE TO PUBLIC SERVICES.
WE ARE SET AT A 20% MAX FOR ALL ADMINISTRATION COSTS AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR FUNDING, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE ABOUT 65% GO TO ALL OUR OTHER FUNDING.
SOME MIGHT BE WONDERING WHERE OUR CDBG AREA IS.
UM, SO OUR CDBG AREA, UM, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, OOPS, I KNEW I WAS GOING TO HIT THE ON BUTTON.
UM, IT COMES RIGHT TO THE WEST OF, I BELIEVE THAT'S KINGSTON.
UM, ADDITION RIGHT THERE, THERE'S THE, UH, HOMELAND THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF BRIAN AND DAN DANFORTH.
THIS IS ERRORS, UH, GOES DOWN RANKIN TO 15TH AND COMES UP ABOUT FRETS.
AND THEN OVER TO KELLY, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S MISSING THIS CORNER WHERE THE COX AND THE TENNIS CENTER AND EVERYTHING IS, UH, OR AT LEAST COX COMMUNICATIONS THAT'S CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL.
AND SO WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT IN OUR CDBG AREA.
THIS IS CONSIDERED OUR TARGET AREA.
EVERYBODY THAT WE ASSIST, UM, HAS TO BE GREATER THAN 51% LMI.
UM, AND THIS IS WHAT, UM, SINCE TRACKS SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION THAT IS 51, UM, OR MORE, UH, SOME PEOPLE WONDER HOW MANY, UM, MUCH LMI WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THIS IS NOT, UM, FROM THE 2020 CENSUS, WE STILL DO NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, AND IT HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS AREA.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME POCKETS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS.
UM, THIS IS THE MOST THAT ARE TOGETHER.
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL GET THE NEW NUMBERS.
SO ALSO PEOPLE WONDER, WELL, WHAT DOES MAKE LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS? UM, THESE ARE DONE, UH, ALSO ANNUALLY BY HUD WERE SET BY THESE AND HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE, UM, INCOME REQUIREMENTS.
AS YOU SEE, ONE INDIVIDUAL CAN MAKE NO MORE THAN $45,850.
SO WE WOULD SERVE THEM IF THEY, UM, MAKE THAT OR LESS, THAT'S ABOUT 80% OF THE AREA, MEDIAN INCOME.
YOU CAN SEE A FAMILY OF FOUR THAT'S ONLY 65,500.
SO THEY HAVE TO MEET THESE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS BEFORE WE CAN SERVE THEM WITH SERVICES.
SO THE BIG QUESTION, HOW MUCH DID WE GET AND WHERE WE'RE SPENDING IT? UM, WE RECEIVED $508,326, UM, TO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT IS $17,000 LESS THAN WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR, UH, BECAUSE OF THE RESCUE PLAN AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE BILLS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
UM, THEY FOCUSED MORE ON WHAT WE CALL HOME FUNDS, WHICH WE ARE NOT A PR UH, PARTICIPATION JURISDICTION, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T GET ENOUGH MONEY FROM HUD.
IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, SO WE DON'T QUALIFY FOR THAT FUNDING.
UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT LUCKILY WE DO HAVE, WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR SERVICES.
UM, SO WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND I'M GOING TO PULL
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BECAUSE OF CARE'S FUNDING.I DIDN'T SPEND ANY OF OUR REGULAR ALLOCATION IN 2020 OR 2021.
UM, AND SO WE WILL BE PULLING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM IT.
IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO BECAUSE WE WERE THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT SPENT ALL OUR CARES FUNDING.
UM, WE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL 143,000 THAT WE'LL BE USING FOR M A MOBILE MEALS, KITCHEN RENOVATION.
THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET, UM, HOUSING, A NON HOUSING WE'RE GOING TO BE USING ABOUT $430,000.
IF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF SIDES AGO, THAT'S ABOUT 65% OF OUR BUDGET.
UM, THIS INCLUDES, AND I'LL SHOW YOU LATER ON WHAT THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC SERVICES, THAT MAX, AGAIN, WE CAN ONLY SPEND 76,000, UM, PUBLIC SERVICES, CV FUNDS.
THAT'S THE CARES FUNDS THAT WE JUST RECEIVED 143,000.
AND THEN OF COURSE, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AT ITS MAX IS THAT 20 20%.
AND IT'S A LITTLE OVER 101,000.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN, I'VE GOT A BREAKOUT OF EACH OF THAT, A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSE AND DEAR TO MY HEART, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES.
WE REALLY COULDN'T HAD ADMINISTERED ALL OUR CARES FUNDING WITHOUT THE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS OF THE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY MAKE THE BIGGEST SOCIAL IMPACT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, HERE IS HERE ARE THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUAL NONPROFITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING SOME SORT OF ALLOCATION.
THEY DO THREE, UM, CLOTHING DISTRIBUTIONS A YEAR, UM, FOR SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN, THREE TO NINE YEARS OLD, UM, THEY RECEIVE ONE BRAND NEW MAIL UP FOOT.
THEY RECEIVED SHOES AND THE WINNER, THEY RECEIVED COATS AT EASTER.
THE GIRLS RECEIVED EASTER DRESSES THAT ARE HOMEMADE BY INDIVIDUAL GREAT VOLUNTEERS.
THEY'RE YOU SPECIAL? YOU ARE SPECIAL.
OF COURSE, EMMA MOBILE MEALS SERVES OUR SENIOR POPULATION.
HOPE CENTER HAS THREE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS THAT WE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING TO.
THEY HAVE MEDICAL SERVICES, THOSE ARE THE PHARMACY CARDS.
SO IF AN INDIVIDUAL CAN'T PAY FOR THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS, A CENTER DOES PAY FOR THAT TO THE PHARMACY.
THEY ARE ALSO HOPING TO OPEN BACK UP THEIR WOMEN'S CLINIC THAT WILL OFFER PRENATAL CARE, UM, TO WOMEN.
UM, SO WE WILL BE, THIS IS KIND OF THEIR SEED MONEY TO HELP GET THEIR, UH, NURSE PRACTITIONER BACK ON STAFF.
UM, THEY KNOW GOING FORWARD, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT IT'S JUST TO GET IT BACK UP AND GOING.
AND OF COURSE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UM, THEY ARE STILL USING SOME CARES MONEY, BUT WE'RE FINDING THAT THERE'S MORE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AFFECTED BY COVID OR DURING THE PANDEMIC.
AND YOU CAN ONLY, UM, GET RENTAL ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE CARES FUNDING IF YOU'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID.
SO THEY ASKED FOR SOME RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO ASSIST THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED IN ANY WAY.
UM, THAT IS ONLY UP TO A THREE MONTH PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT IS PAID DIRECTLY TO THE LANDLORD AND WARD MORTGAGE COMPANY.
UM, ONE THING ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICES, IT CAN NOT BE A DIRECT RECIPIENT PAYMENT, MEANING THE PERSON THAT'S ASKING FOR THE SERVICE CAN'T RECEIVE THE FUNDING AT EITHER HAS TO GO TO AN ENTITY, LANDLORD, MORTGAGE COMPANY, PHARMACY, ET CETERA.
YOU'LL NOTICE PROJECT 66 DOESN'T HAVE ANY FUNDING THIS YEAR.
UM, IT'S NOT THAT I DIDN'T GIVE THEM ANY FUNDING.
THEY'RE STILL USING CARE'S MONEY FROM ACOMA COMMERCE.
UM, THEY DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND IT IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IS NEEDED BEFORE THIS ALLOCATION WOULD KICK IN.
SO THEY OPTED TO GET MORE MONEY WITH THE CARES FUNDING.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING.
WE KEEP THEM IN OUR PLAN BECAUSE CARE'S FUNDING WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY AND BE SPENT.
UM, AND SO WE NEED TO KEEP THEM IN THEIR PLAN.
AND OF COURSE, EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL FOUNDATION.
UM, WE, THEY PARTNER WITH EBAC PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
UM, THEY KIND OF FILL THAT GAP WHERE THE SCHOOL CAN'T FUND AND WE HAVE FUNDED THEIR EARLY BIRD PROGRAM.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT ON FACEBOOK.
THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, OF, UH, PROMOTING THAT.
SO THESE ARE JUST RECAP, A LITTLE BIT OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES.
YOU'LL SEE METRO FAIR HOUSING ON HERE.
THEY ACTUALLY ADMINISTER OUR, ALL OUR, UM, HOUSING EDUCATION SERVICES AS WELL AS THEY DO THE MEDIATION BETWEEN ANY LANDLORD AND TENANT HERE IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
WE DO NOT HANDLE THAT IN HOUSE.
UM, WE PAY THEM A PORTION OUT OF OUR ADMINISTRATION BUDGET TO DO THAT.
SO MOVING ONTO HOUSING, NON HOUSING ADMINISTRATION ACTIVITIES AGAIN, UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, UM, PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IS OUR HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
UM, OUT OF THAT FUNDING, WE ALSO PAY A REHAB SPECIALIST.
WHO'S A GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT GOES OUT AND EVALUATES THE HOMES.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'VE ALWAYS IN THE PAST HISTORICALLY DONE OWNER OCCUPIED, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO POTENTIALLY RENTER, UM, REHABS WHERE IF THE OWNER IS AGREEABLE TO OUR CONDITIONS, THEN WE WILL HELP BRING THEIR HOME UP TO CODE OR HELP, UH, PUT ADA ACCESSIBILITY IN THEIR HOMES.
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UM, THE REHABS, WE FOCUS ON ADA ACCESSIBILITY.SO THAT'S RAMPS ON THE OUTSIDE THAT'S, UM, BATHROOM AMENITIES THAT IT'S NEEDED FLOORING.
UM, AND THEN WE MOVE INTO HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES AND ITEMS SUCH AS A HOT WATER TANK OR AC IN SOME CASES, UM, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN SAYING OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP.
UM, I, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE OUT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE NORMALLY PAY FOR THAT WE CAN ONLY PAY FOR A FEW, OR I'LL BE IN FRONT OF YOU EVERY TWO WEEKS WITH THE REHAB.
UM, SO IT'S JUST CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP.
UM, WE ARE ALSO DO HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE.
UM, HISTORICALLY WE'VE ONLY DONE $5,000 UP TO $5,000.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE EXPANDING THAT PROGRAM TO 14,999, WHICH IS THE FEDERAL LIMIT.
UM, WE'RE HOPING TO ATTRACT MORE HOME BUYERS IN OUR CDBG AREA.
UM, AND SO THE REHABS IN THE, IN THE HOME BUYERS ASSISTANCE PRIORITY GOES TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CDBG AREA.
AND THEN WE, WE EXPAND OUT OUT THAT WAY.
WE DO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, 51% OR MORE HAVE TO BE INSIDE OUR CDBG AREA.
SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO, WE DO A NEIGHBORHOODS TREE PROGRAM WHERE WE DO WORK WITH URBAN FORESTRY AND, UM, HELP TRIM TREES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN'T DO IT THEMSELVES, OR THAT NEED ASSISTANCE DOING IT.
UM, WHEN WE HAD THAT SNOW STORM A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE ABLE TO ASSIST, UM, UH, QUITE A FEW FAMILIES THAT COULDN'T BRING IT TO THE CURB, UH, FOR THE CITY TO PICK UP.
SO WE HELPED PAY FOR THAT TO, FOR THEM TO BRING IT TO THE CURB.
UM, I HAVE DEMOLITION AND CODE COMPLIANCE UP HERE.
WHAT THAT GENERALLY IS, IS IF THERE IS ANY CODE CASE THAT HAS WHERE, UM, THEY HAVE FENCING, THAT'S BEING, UM, THE STILL AMPUTATED, IT MIGHT BE FALLING DOWN OR A SHED THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE A CODE, UH, COMPLAINT ON.
WE CAN GO IN AND, AND ASSIST IN THAT WE CANNOT PAY FOR MAINTENANCE.
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I'VE TRIED, UM, I REALLY TRIED WITH HUD THIS YEAR TO SEE IF WE COULD HELP ASSIST WITH SOME CASES THAT THEY'RE HAVING IN PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, BUT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE 20% ADMINISTRATION COSTS, UH, AGAIN, METRO FAIR HOUSING, WE GIVE ABOUT $10,000 TO THEM TO HANDLE THE MEDIATION AS WELL AS THEY DO OUR HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE CLASS AND OTHER, UM, EDUCATION SERVICES, THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT PAYS FOR TWO STAFF MEMBERS, 50% OF THEIR SALARY, AS WELL AS ANY FEDERAL REGULATION OVERSIGHT REPORTING, UH, MONITORING EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I GET TO DO.
I'VE KIND OF ALREADY GONE OVER THEM.
I'LL JUST KIND OF TOUCH ON WHAT NEW ONES.
AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING THE RENTAL REHAB TO THE HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
WE'RE INCREASING OUR HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, MORE OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE OVERSIGHT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO THIS ISN'T A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OR QUESTIONS CONCERNED FROM THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? WELL, CHRISTY THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH MONEY, NEVER, AND I'M SURE YOU GET FRUSTRATED, BUT I LIVE, THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, I LIVE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
AND I WATCHED THE PEOPLE AND HAVE THEM TELL ME THAT, THAT WE'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
DON'T GET FRUSTRATED AND KEEP APPLYING FOR THE GRANT.
I DOUBT ANYBODY EVEN KNOWS THAT WE DO THIS.
IT'S AMAZING KUDOS TO SPREADING THAT OUT LIKE YOU DO, AND YOU COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT NECESSARILY, UM, OR HAVE THAT OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND YOU DO, AND IT'S, THAT MEANS IT'S WORKING OR THERE ARE THAT.
THERE'S A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THERE AND GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THESE, WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T THINK WE COULD ASK FOR MORE THAN THAT.
WELL, THANK YOU BECAUSE EVERYONE LOOKS AT US UP HERE EVERY TWO WEEKS AND SAY, OH, ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS BILL, BILL, BILL.
BUT WE DO HAVE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE, I'M TRYING OUR BEST TO TAKE CARE OF AS, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE PART OF THAT.
SO PART OF THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL OPEN IT UP.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING OR HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I AM NOT SEEING ANY WHAT COUNCIL WE DID NUMBERS.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
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ALRIGHT.THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
[1. Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ______ repealing and amending ward boundaries in Sections 1.12.010 Ward One, 1.12.020 Ward Two, 1.12.030 Ward Three, and 1.12.040 Ward Four of Chapter 1.12 of the Edmond Municipal Code, and providing for repealer and severability.]
UM, BEAT ONE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39, 13 39, 13 REPEALING AND AMENDING BOARD BOUNDARIES AND SECTION ONE.TWELVE.ZERO ONE ZERO OR ONE, ONE TWELVE.ZERO TWO ZERO WAR TO ONE TWELVE.ZERO THREE, ZERO OR THREE IN ONE.TWELVE.ZERO 4 0 1 4 OF CHAPTER ONE DOT 12 OF THE M IN MUNICIPAL COURT AND PROVIDING FOR REPEALER IN SEVERABILITY.WHAT THIS IS IS WE ARE REESTABLISHING OUR WAR BOUNDARIES BASED ON OUR CENSUS.
WE WENT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND MR. MOORE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US ANY ADDITIONAL INSIGHT? YEAH, SO MANY JOBS TODAY.
I KNOW IF I HAD HATS, I JUST KEEP, BUT I LIKE TO SHOP HERE CASEY MOORE, A DIRECTOR MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
SO WE WERE HERE A MONTH AGO AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
WE WENT OVER THE SCENARIOS AGAIN.
THE GOAL IS, UH, WHEN WE DO REDISTRICTING BASED UPON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA, WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THAT DATA AND SPLIT IT UP EVENLY AMONGST THE FOUR WARDS OR AS EVENLY AS WE CAN.
UM, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT CAN'T GO INTO THAT WE CAN'T SPLIT UP PRECINCTS VOTING PRECINCTS THAT COME FROM THE COUNTY.
WE CAN'T LOOK AT THE TYPES OF HOUSING OR TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THOSE.
AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE TRY TO, UH, GET TO THOSE NUMBERS BY CHANGING THESE BOUNDARIES AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE ELECTED TO SERVE A POPULATION, CONTINUED TO SERVE THAT POPULATION.
UM, SO JUST REAL QUICK, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE, KIND OF WHERE WE WERE AGAIN, UM, AFTER CENSUS CAME IN AND THESE ARE OUR CURRENT, THESE ARE OUR CURRENT BOUNDARIES.
UH, YOU COULD TELL WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY OUT OF, OUT OF WHACK HERE.
SO WE HAD TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AT THAT LAST MEETING.
UM, THIS IS SCENARIO, THIS IS A SCENARIO THAT WAS SELECTED BY YOU ALL.
UM, WHICH BASICALLY THE TARGET NUMBER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO IS 23,607, UH, WARD ONE THAT MOVED TWO SQUARE MILES OUT OF WARD INTO WARD ONE.
SO THESE TWO SQUARE MILES WITHOUT VIOLENCE, WITHOUT VIOLENCE, THESE, THESE TWO SQUARE MILES WOULD, WOULD CHANGE.
AND THEN OVER HERE WE ARE, WE'RE MOVING, WE'RE MOVING THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE THAT KIND OF HAS THIS WEIRD LITTLE SQUIGGLY, WHICH WE DIDN'T CREATE THE SQUIGGLY AGAIN, THAT'S BASED UPON VOTING PRECINCTS.
UH, WHAT THAT DID IS WE KNEW THAT ONE OF THESE TWO WERE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER.
POPULATION-WISE WE TALKED ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT.
WE FELT YOU ALL FELT LIKE IT MADE MORE SENSE FOR WARD THREE TO BE A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WILL COME FROM WAR FOR IN THESE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO THESE ARE THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU VOTED TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE REPRESENTS MR. MURDOCH AND HIS FOLKS HAVE, HAVE WORDED IT AS SUCH.
AND WE HAD THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND I BELIEVE NO COMMENTS THAT I'M AWARE OF IS THAT RIGHT? SEND A MR. MURDOCH, NOTHING CAME IN.
SO THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THE FILING COMING UP WARDS ONE, TWO, AND MAYER COMING UP IN DECEMBER.
AND SO I'M ASSUMING IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, THEN YOU START UPDATING ANYTHING THAT'S ONLINE.
UH, YOU PUT STREET, YOU PUT STREET NAMES TO IT AND YOU DO REAL DO THE REAL MAP AND MAKE SURE IT'S OUT YES.
IT'S 30 DAYS, CORRECT? MR. ATTORNEY.
UH, BUT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START PREPPING ALL THE CHANGES AND EVERYTHING.
SO YES, ANYONE THAT WOULD WANT TO FILE FOR ELECTION AND BOARD ONE AND BOARD TWO, UH, THIS, THIS DECEMBER, IT WOULD BE BASED UPON THESE BOUNDARIES HERE, SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE, LET'S SEE ANY COUNCIL OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IN THIS NEW ORDINANCE? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM B ONE A SECOND.
MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AT ORDINANCE 39, 13 HAS BEEN PASSED.
[C. Approval of Purchases:]
ORDER IS APPROVAL OF PURCHASES APPROVE OVER NEW OF MAINTENANCE SUPPORT AGREEMENT, JULY 1ST, 2022 TO JUNE 30TH, 2023 WITH MOTOROLA FOR $136,797 AND 95 CENTS APPROVE OF THE ANNUAL COST OF MAINTENANCE FOR THE COMPETITION POOL.THE YOUNG MEN'S CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION OF GREATER OKLAHOMA CITY TO Y AND CA FOR $300,000 VERIFICATION OF TAX PAYMENT THROUGH THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION, NOT TO EXCEED $226,880
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TO COBELL PARTNERS, ONE DEVELOPMENT LLC, AS PER THE FUNCTIONAL SPACE LICENSE AGREEMENT, AND THEN APPROVAL TO UTILIZE ENGINEERING SYSTEMS AND ENGINEERING, UH, ENERGY SOLUTIONS AS THE SOLE PROVIDER FOR NECESSARY SERVICES, EQUIPMENT, AND REPAIRS TO THE EXISTING CITY OF EDMOND, ALC WEB C T R L SYSTEM AND SOFTWARE FOR BUILDING AND HVAC CONTROLS, ANNUAL ESTIMATE, $40,000.I'M GOING TO STOP THERE BECAUSE THE ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, WE'RE GOING TO PULL FOUR PRESENTATIONS.
SO CAN WE GET, CAN I GET A MOTION ON YES.
C ONE THROUGH FOUR, UM, FIVE MOVED YOUR BRIEF C ONE THROUGH FIVE SECOND OR MARCH 2ND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
AND THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN OPPOSED.
UM, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, I'M SORRY.
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE THROUGH FOUR, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WERE, BECAUSE WE WANT IT PRESENTATION FROM CONSIDERATION.
ARE WE GOING TO GET PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE? NO.
GIVE ME ONE TIME A YEAR TO COME SPEAK.
[6. Approval of Service Fees for Oklahoma Municipal League for FY23; $61,113.02. ]
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO COME TO NUMBER SIX, APPROVE OF SERVICE FEES FOR OKLAHOMA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 FOR $61,113 AND 2 CENTS.UH, MIKE FAENA FROM ALL MALES HERE TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION, MR. FAENA.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME IN COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
I'D LIKE TO, IF IT'S OKAY TO HAND THESE OUT, I GOT ONE FOR THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL.
THOSE ARE ALSO ONLINE@OML.ORG UNDER OUR LEGISLATIVE TAB UNDER OUR SUNDAY DYE REPORT.
SO IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, IT'S THERE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING LONGTIME MEMBERS OF THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE MUNICIPAL LEAGUES BEEN AROUND FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE SURPRISED AT THAT, BUT WE'VE BEEN AROUND ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIMES.
OKLAHOMA'S BEEN A STATE SUPPORTING MUNICIPALITIES AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY FACET OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
THE THREE LEGGED STOOL OF, OF AMA LML WAS OUR INQUIRY SERVICES, OUR TRAINING AND OUR LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS INSIDE OF LML, WE RUN THE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS PROGRAM, THE COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
WE MANAGE THE MAYOR'S COUNCIL OF OKLAHOMA, WHICH IS THE OLDEST AND LARGEST STATE RUN MAYOR'S ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT.
UH, WE RUN THE MUNICIPAL COURTS AND TREASURES ASSOCIATION, THE OKLAHOMA MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THE JUDGES, THE COURT CLERKS.
WE SUPPORT THE SAME MANAGERS AND THEN O M F C T F O H, WHICH IN THE FINANCE OFFICERS, WE HELPED MANAGE ALL OF THOSE GROUPS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES UP MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THERE'S AN AREA OF OML THAT MATCHES EVERYTHING IN A MUNICIPALITY.
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT ADMIN SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE OF, OF EDMOND'S LIFE IN OML.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN OUR LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS FOR YEARS.
UH, NANCY, I IT'S FUNNY WHEN I WAS A MAYOR OF PIEDMONT AND YOUR NEIGHBOR, UH, AND NANCY WAS AT EVERY OML AND I ACTUALLY THOUGHT SHE WORKED FOR OML.
I DIDN'T HAVE SHE REPRESENTED, BUT THAT'S HOW ACTIVE SHE WAS IN THE LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS.
AND DURING THAT TIME, THERE WERE SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT BILLS THAT WERE PASSED, THAT IT PUT A LOT OF DOLLARS INTO EDMUNDS COFFERS.
FIRST ONE IN 2013, WE PASSED HOUSE BILL 1875, THAT ADJUSTED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE TAX COMMISSION COLLECTED WHEN THEY REMITTED YOUR TAXES BACK TO YOU, IT WAS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
THERE'S BEEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE GONE BACK INTO EDMOND.
OVER THAT OVER THE YEARS WE PASSED IN 2016, THE MARKET PLACE, FAIRNESS ACT.
WE WERE THREE YEARS AHEAD OF THE WAYFAIR DECISION ON ALLOWING YOU TO COLLECT INTERNET SALES TAX.
UH, THAT WAS A, A BIG VICTORY.
AND THEN WHEN THE WAYFAIR, AS SHE CAME IN, IT KIND OF CLARIFIED JUST EVERYTHING BEHIND THAT.
AND WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS DURING COVID.
AND THEN IN 2021, NOW, OF COURSE PASSING THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISTRICTS THAT I HOPE ONE DAY, YOU GUYS VOTE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
UM, I WANT TO TELL YOU A QUICK STORY ABOUT CARES ACT IN ARPA.
UH, WE WERE VERY ACTIVE IN THOSE TWO AREAS, WHICH PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN EDMOND, BUT I WAS SITTING IN MY HOUSE ON A SUNDAY NIGHT AND I GET A CALL FROM THE GOVERNOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF, MICHAEL JUNK.
HE WAS THE FORMER DEPUTY MAYOR OF TULSA AND HE WAS IN LINE TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF OML.
SO IT WAS VERY CLOSE WITH MICHAEL, BUT THEN THE GOVERNOR HIRED HIM AWAY AND WE LOST HIM AT OML AND TULSA LOST HIM.
SO HE CALLS ME ON A SUNDAY NIGHT, WHICH WASN'T THAT CRAZY THAT BECAUSE WE WERE FRIENDS AND HE SAID, THIS WAS RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID.
HE SAID, MIKE, THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO TALK TO THE MAYORS.
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HE LIKE TO DO THAT? HE WANTS TO DO IT IN THE MORNING.THAT PUTS A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE.
BUT IF THE GOVERNOR WANTS IT, WON'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I SAID, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND, IF I SEND OUT A PHONE NUMBER THAT OUR MAYORS AREN'T JUST GOING TO IT, WON'T JUST BE MAYORS.
IT'S GOING TO BE EVERYBODY BECAUSE THERE'S NO INFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT COVID AT THIS POINT, HE SAID, IT'S OKAY.
JUST TO LET THE MAYORS KNOW, THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO TALK TO HIM.
AND WHAT WE HAD THOUGHT WAS RIGHT, AND THERE WAS ABOUT 700 PEOPLE ON THAT PHONE CALL AND THIS IS LONG BEFORE ZOOM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND SO SOME OF YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN ON THERE.
I KNOW A LOT OF OUR, ESPECIALLY LARGER CITIES, THEY JUST SET UP IN, UH, IN CONFERENCE ROOMS AND THEY WERE FULL.
SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY LISTENING THAT DAY.
WELL, THE GOVERNOR GETS ON THERE FOR A FEW MINUTES AND HE JUST KIND OF GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, NOT MUCH.
AND THEN HE SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE SOME QUESTIONS? I SAID, OKAY, HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND I GUESS THERE WAS SOME POOR GIRL SITTING NEXT TO HIM THAT WORKED IN HIS OFFICE AND HE SAID, WELL, LET'S GET YOUR NUMBER AND WE'LL JUST HAVE HIM TEXT YOU, NOT KIDDING.
SO HE GIVES US POOR GIRL'S NUMBER AND WHAT YOU HEAR IS, AND JUST, THEY STARTED COMING IN.
AND SO THE GOVERNOR MAYBE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS AND HE JUST ABRUPTLY ENDS.
I SAID, MICHAEL, THAT LEFT MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.
HE SAID, WE LOST COUNT AFTER ABOUT 400 TEXT MESSAGES AND THEIR PHONE COULDN'T EVEN KEEP UP.
AND WE JUST, WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT TO DO.
AND I SAID, WELL, LET ME MAKE AN OFFER TO YOU.
I SAID, WE'RE BETTER AT TALKING TO CITIES THAN YOU ARE, OBVIOUSLY.
WHY DON'T YOU LET US HELP YOU COMMUNICATE TO MUNICIPALITIES AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
LET ME GO TALK TO THE GOVERNOR.
AND I ENDED ABOUT 10 MINUTES LATER, HE CALLS BACK AND HE SAYS, THE GOVERNOR WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU UP ON THAT.
THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT DAY FOR OML.
BECAUSE FROM THAT DAY FORWARD, WE BECAME THE COMMUNICATIONS LINK FOR CARES ACT AND THEN ARPA.
IT ALSO AFFORDED US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SIT WITH THE GOVERNOR AND NEGOTIATE THE $150 MILLION IN CARES ACT THAT WENT TO MUNICIPALITIES, WHICH YOU GUYS GOT ALMOST $8 MILLION UP, BUT IT ALSO OPENED US UP TO HELP WITH ARPA.
NOW, BEYOND WORKING WITH THE GOVERNOR, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ONE OF THE 16 MUNICIPAL LEADERS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
THEY GOT TO TALK TO THE WHITE HOUSE ABOUT ARPA-E AND GOT TO EXPRESS WHAT OUR CONCERNS WERE WITH THE CARES ACT AND HOW THEY NEEDED TO DO ARPA-E BETTER.
THE KEY THING, AND THE KEY MESSAGE THAT WE GAVE THE WHITE HOUSE THAT DAY WAS IS THAT WE DON'T WANT THE STATE TO TOUCH OUR DOLLARS BECAUSE EVERY TIME A POT OF MONEY STOPS AT THE STATE, THEY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OFF OF IT.
AND THE NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLAR ALLOCATION IS HALF AS MUCH.
SO WE SAID, GIVE IT RIGHT TO US.
AND SO THEY, THEY LISTENED AND WERE A LITTLE BIT A VICTIM OF OUR OWN SUCCESS.
YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BROUGHT THE BLOCK GRANTS.
WELL, THAT'S WHERE THEY DID THE CUTOFF.
WE DID, UH, ENTITLEMENT CITIES VERSUS NOT ALL THE TIME.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE NON ENTITLEMENT CITIES HATED THAT TITLE.
SO THEY, UH, THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT THE WHOLE TIME, BUT IT WAS JUST A DESIGNATION OF BEING OVER 50,000 IN POPULATION IS REALLY WHAT THAT MEANT.
UM, BUT, BUT THEY SENT YOU GUYS DIRECTLY REMIND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT YOUR MONEY BEFORE EVEN THE STATE RECEIVED THEIR DOLLARS.
YOU WERE SPENDING YOUR DOLLARS BEFORE THE STATE EVEN HAD THEIRS, BUT THEN WE HAD FOR THE STATE, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T FOR ADMIN, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT WE DID.
WE RAN ALL OF THE DIS ALL THE ALLOCATIONS FOR THE, ANY USE.
SO, AND EVEN FOR EDMUND, WHEN YOU SENT QUESTIONS IN ABOUT ARPA-E, YOU SENT THEM TO ARPA@OML.ORG.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT THE STATE GAVE OUT.
THE ARPA WEBSITE FOR MUNICIPALITIES WAS THE LML WEBSITE.
WE TOOK THAT ON FOR THE STATE AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE OF OUR, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT OUR MEMBERS REALLY WANTED US TO TAKE THE LEAD ON AND GAVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT WE REALLY HAD TO REVAMP IN THAT TIME.
SO WE MADE SOME CHANGES DURING COVID TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.
AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE GOT MONEY TO EVERY CITY THAT WANTED MONEY.
THERE WERE ONLY, I DON'T WANT TO LIE TO YOU.
LET ME SAY ABOUT 18 CITIES THAT DIDN'T RECEIVE THEIR FUNDING BECAUSE THEY DECLINED IT.
NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF BEING ABLE TO GET ALL OF THAT MONEY OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, UM, THAT THAT'S BEEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON LATELY, UH, BUT WE NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LEGISLATIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF LEGISLATION.
IF YOU LOOK, AND I THINK I LEFT MINE, OR I GAVE IT AWAY, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THERE ON THE FRONT PAGE.
AND THE FIRST THING IS THE BAD BILLS THAT WE HAVE TO KILL THEM.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT THING THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR, UH, IN THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR, THEY FILED IN THE 58 LEGISLATURE, FORTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT BILLS OF THOSE
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1,864 HAD SOME MUNICIPAL IMPACT.SO HALF OF THE BILLS ALL HAD SOME KIND OF IMPACT BY, UH, ON MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THE TOP ONE, UM, IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, IT IT'S THE BILLS THAT WE HAD TO KILL.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN TYLER GAVE YOU HIS REPORT, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE BILLS THAT, THAT YOU SAW.
AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THAT WERE REALLY BAD FOR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, THEY TRIED TO ELIMINATE THE TIF DISTRICTS THAT TRIED TO PREEMPT OUR ABILITY TO DO PLANNING AND ZONING.
THEY TRIED TO PROVIDE, UH, PREEMPT OUR ABILITY TO AMEND AND ADOPT COMP PLANS.
PROBABLY THE FUNNEST ONE WAS WHEN THEY TRIED TO SAY THAT WE COULDN'T ENTER A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT, UNLESS THAT PERSON WE WERE ENTERING THE AGREEMENT WITH WAS A PRO GUN BUSINESS.
IT WAS THE MOST FRUSTRATING BILL.
WE'RE ALL PROGRAMMED IN OKLAHOMA.
THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, BUT IF YOU TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHICH COMPANIES ARE PRO-GUN AND NOT, IT'S, WE'RE NOT DOING BUSINESS WITH VERY MANY PEOPLE AT THAT POINT.
THOSE WERE THE, THOSE WERE THE BILLS THAT WE HAD TO KILL.
NOW, IF YOU DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, THERE'S A INDEX IN THERE, UM, THE ABOUT 70 BILLS.
AND THEN IF YOU DIG RIGHT BEHIND THAT, YOU'LL SEE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE AN, MAYBE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT SCOTT ON ONE SIDE, IT TELLS YOU WHAT AREA OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT IMPACTS, WHETHER IT'S FIRE POLICE AND THE COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING, AND IT BREAKS THAT DOWN.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST SECTION IN THERE IS THE NARRATIVE ON THAT.
WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU GUYS, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS THAT WE SERVE FOR ANY MUNICIPALITY.
THOSE 70 BILLS ARE ONE THAT ARE 70 BILLS THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOW YOUR MUNICIPALITY RUNS IN SOME AREA.
NOW, TYLER DOESN'T, HE DOESN'T PROVIDE YOU THAT SERVICE CAUSE YOU, YOU ACTUALLY, IF YOU ASKED HIM TO DO THAT, HIS CONTRACT WILL BE ABOUT 10 TIMES AMOUNT BECAUSE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT MUCH INFORMATION FOR YOU, IT TAKES TWO ATTORNEYS, SIX LOBBYISTS, THREE RESEARCHERS, THREE LEGAL INTERNS, AND TWO ADMIN SUPPORT.
SO WE CAN DO ALL OF THAT BILL READING.
AND I'VE WORKED WITH STEVE A LOT, BUT I KNOW IN JANUARY HE DOESN'T WANT TO READ 2000 BILLS.
HE WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT OML READS THEM AND THEN BRING TO HIS ATTENTION WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHAT IMPACT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ON EDMOND.
OUR MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IS SO VITAL TO ALL THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT THAT I CAN TAKE A SECTION OF THE BILL AND I CAN SEND IT TO STEVE AND THE OTHER, UH, OTHER MUNICIPAL ATTORNEYS AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IS YOUR IMPRESSION OF THIS? OR WE READ IT THIS WAY.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? AND IT'S, IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR ALL MUNICIPALITIES TO, TO HAVE THAT, UH, HAVE THAT ABILITY.
WE'VE GOT A PRETTY FANTASTIC CITY ATTORNEY.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE PROVIDE YOU GUYS.
THERE'S PROBABLY ALWAYS A QUESTION OF YOU GUYS HIRE LOBBYISTS, PROBABLY WONDER, WELL, WHY, WHY DO WE NEED BOTH OF THESE? LET ME EXPLAIN IT.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT EDMUND HIRES AT THEY'RE THEIR OWN LOBBYISTS.
I REPRESENT 586 MUNICIPALITIES FROM OKLAHOMA CITY TO RENFRO OF 12 PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY LEGISLATION.
AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE TIMES THAT EDMUND'S GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL.
THAT'S JUST FOREVER AND YOU NEED HELP ON THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TYLER AND YOU KNOW WHAT TYLER DOES.
HE BRINGS IT TO THE OML LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AND WE LOOK AT IT AND THERE'S BEEN NOT MANY, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN A MUNICIPALITY WILL BRING AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ALL MUNICIPALITIES.
AND IN THAT CASE, OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND THEY WOULD SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT WE NEVER OPPOSE IT.
IF IT'S A MUNICIPAL, IF MUNICIPALITIES ASKING FOR IT, WE MIGHT MAKE IT NEUTRAL.
AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN MOORE IS GOING TO KNOW THIS.
UM, YOUR OTHER NEIGHBOR, RAY POLAND FROM JONES.
HE IS VERY UPSET ON A COG THAT WHEN, WHEN THE REAP FUNDING COMES UP, CAUSE HE, HE HATES WHEN A CITY LIKE EVAN WOULD TRY AND RAISE THE POPULATION LEVEL.
SO MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD GET A LITTLE MORE REAP FUNDING BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT RAY GETS.
HE JUST DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF INCOME AND JONES.
HE'S, YOU'RE LAUGHING, BUT YOU'VE HEARD HIM PIRATE.
BUT THAT, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF ISSUES.
WHEN I SAY THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE ARE GOING TO DISAGREE IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A FAIR PROCESS IN HOW WE ATTACK LEGISLATION AND WHAT WE HAVE THROUGH ML AND OUR LARGER CITIES WHO ALL EMPLOY THEIR OWN MUNICIPAL LOBBYISTS.
IF YOU STACK THEM ALL UP, WE ANY GIVEN DAY AT THE LEGISLATURE, WE CAN HAVE 21 LOBBYISTS OUT THERE MARCHING ON BEHALF OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
WHEN LARRY STEVENS CALLED ME AND ASKED ME ABOUT HIRING TYLER, I SAID, ABSOLUTELY HIRING ME IS FANTASTIC.
HE WAS VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES SAID, BUT I HAVE ONE REQUEST AND I MADE THIS EVERY MUNICIPALITY HIRE HIM,
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BUT THE DIRECTIVE IS, HAS IT.THEY HAVE TO BE ON TEAM MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
AND LARRY SAID, ABSOLUTELY WE'RE TEAM PLAYERS.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, I'M GOING TO BRAG ON STEVE AND I'M GOING TO BRAG ON TYLER.
TYLER NEVER MISSED A LEGISLATIVE MEETING.
TYLER WORKED HIS REAR END OFF AT THE CAPITOL ON BEHALF OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND ON THE BEHALF OF EDMOND, HE IS VERY GOOD UP THERE AND HE REPRESENTED YOU.
WELL, HE WAS GOOD ON OUR TEAM AND THE POWER OF THAT, THE POWER OF WHEN WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE AND WE SEND OUT THE GRIP AND A LOT OF YOU GUYS, I KNOW YOU DO ALL THE TIME.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU IF WE TURN ON THAT MACHINE AND WE JOKINGLY CALL IT THE MACHINE WITHIN HOURS, I'M GETTING A CALL FROM THE PRO TEAM OR THE SPEAKER SAYING, TELL YOUR MAYORS TO STOP CALLING.
IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME, BECAUSE WHEN WE TURN ON THE MACHINE, IT MOVES THE NEEDLE AT THE CAPITOL.
THAT'S OUR 21 LOBBYISTS THAT ARE MARCHING THE HALLS.
THAT'S ALL OF YOU GUYS AND DON'T FEEL BAD THAT HE SAID THAT THEY ALWAYS SAY THE MAYORS.
THEY THINK EVERYBODY'S A MAYOR.
UH, BUT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYORS, CITY MANAGERS.
I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE POLICE.
I KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE POLICE CHIEFS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
SO THAT'S A VERY POWERFUL TOOL THAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S WHY WE CAN KILL THOSE REALLY BAD BILLS.
IT'S WHY OML AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT CAN STAND UP TO A GUN BILL AT THE OKLAHOMA STATE CAPITOL BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER WITH EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.
SO FINALLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE OUT OF EDMUND IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WE HAVE ON OUR BOARD, WHEN YOU REACH A HUNDRED THOUSAND ARE ABOUT TO REACH A A HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION.
YOU HAVE AN AUTOMATIC SEAT ON OUR, UM, OML BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OUR MAYOR'S COUNCIL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T QUITE THERE, BUT ONE, I THINK THAT THE CENSUS WAS, UM, I THINK IT WAS POORLY DONE.
I WILL JUST SAY THAT IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
AND I THINK YOU MIGHT BE AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND AS IT IS AS WE SIT TODAY, BUT YOU CERTAINLY WILL BE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, THE HORMEL BOARD ALREADY VOTED TO EXTEND EDMOND, A INVITATION TO SERVE ON BOTH THOSE BOARDS WOULD BE YOUR CHOICE.
UM, AND THEN THE MAYOR WOULD SERVE ON THE, ON THE MAYOR'S COUNCIL OF OKLAHOMA.
WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE A STRONGER STATEWIDE VOICE.
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE STATEWIDE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MISSING THAT ONE PIECE ON, ON THE OML BOARD.
AND THAT MEANS YOU'RE SERVING WITH OKLAHOMA CITY TULSA, UM, DOWN TO THE SMALLEST.
AND WE, UH, HAVE CITIES AND TOWNS IN OKLAHOMA BECAUSE WE TRY AND CREATE THAT ON OUR BOARD.
AND IT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S DIVVIED UP.
BUT THE LARGE CITIES VOICE IS SO IMPORTANT.
A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE, WE STARTED IN ONE THING THAT'S GOING TO BE BRAND NEW.
UH, WE'VE HAD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, THE LARGE MAYOR'S CAUCUS, UH, THE MAYOR HAS PARTICIPATED ON THAT.
I DON'T CALL ON THEM TOO MUCH BECAUSE I, ALL THE LARGE CITY MAYORS ARE SO BUSY, BUT WHEN WE CALL THEM, IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
IT'S USUALLY A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE.
SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD AT LEAST ONE TIME.
AND THEN DURING COVID, WHEN IT WAS AN EMERGENCY ISSUE WHERE WE NEEDED TO CONSULT ALL THE BIG MAYORS TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THIS? AND THEN IF WE NEED TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE PRESS, WHEN I CAN PUT THE SIX LARGEST CITIES, MAYORS STANDING UP THERE IN FRONT OF CAMERAS, PEOPLE LISTEN.
SO WE UTILIZE THEM WHEN THEY NEED TO BE.
AND WE TRY NOT TO ABUSE THAT POWER, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY VALUABLE FOR THE MAYOR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE CITY MANAGERS OF THE, NOW TULSA'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN I'VE SEEN MANAGERS, AT LEAST THE FIVE LARGEST CITIES THAT TOO.
CAUSE I, SCOTT, I KNOW YOU'RE NEW HERE AND YOU CAME FROM ISA.
I DON'T HAVE YOU SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO JIM, UH, OR, UM, UH, THE CITY MANAGER OF OKLAHOMA CITY YET.
OR IF YOU, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THOSE OPERA CRAIG, HE WOULD BE REALLY MAD AT ME IF HE JUST FORGOT ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, ON A, ON A PERIODIC BASIS TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THE SAME MANAGER TO THE LARGEST CITIES, CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE OUT OF TALKING TO THEM.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO CATER A, WE WANT A PART OF OML TO CATER TO ALL THE LARGER CITIES BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SO, UH, ONE LAST THING I WOULD TELL YOU THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING DIFFERENT DURING WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A GOOD FIELD STEP PROGRAM, BUT DURING COVID WE HAD TO BACK IT DOWN AND KIND OF SHUT IT DOWN DURING COVID CAUSE WE JUST COULDN'T REALLY TRAVEL, BUT WE'VE RE-INTRODUCED WE DON'T CALL IT THE FIELD PSAP PROGRAM.
AND I CHANGED THE STRUCTURE OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A LOT FOR OUR SMALLEST FIELD STAFF TO MANAGE.
SO NOW EVERYBODY AT OML IS ASSIGNED A MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY REPRESENT MYSELF INCLUDED.
I'M REPRESENTING ALL THE LARGE MUNICIPALITY.
SO I'M ACTUALLY YOUR OUTREACH PERSON.
UM, SO WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES, YOU'RE GONNA ACTUALLY GONNA CALL ME DIRECTLY, BUT I WANT EVERY MUNICIPALITY TO HAVE A PERSONAL TOUCH FROM OML AND KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL.
I MIGHT NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT I WANT YOU TO HAVE SOMEONE TO CALL SO I CAN GO GET THE ANSWER FOR YOU.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S JUST KICKING OFF RIGHT NOW.
SO VERY SOON YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME OF THAT.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO
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OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE, UH, OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE HAS GROWN THE PAST FIVE YEARS CREDIBLY, UM, AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND IT'S SUCH A BIG CONFERENCE THAT WE CAN ONLY HAVE IT IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND TULSA.I DID LOOK AT YOUR CENTER, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOO SMALL FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS BUILD A BIGGER ONE AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE IT.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH FOR TONIGHT, BUT I'D LOVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU GUYS HAVE COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR WHICH TO FIGURE, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR, MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, HOW CAN WE HAVE A BIGGER PRESENCE ON THE BOARD IN THAT WAY AND YOU, AND YOU ANSWERED IT.
I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UH, WE'RE AT THAT POPULATION AND A PROMISING POPULATION MOVING FORWARD TO, UM, TO HAVE A SEAT AT THAT TABLE, WHOEVER, WHOEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING ADMIN.
AND THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, UH, TO ME.
AND THEN ANOTHER IS I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A VALUE IN OML WHERE, AND I SEE IT TODAY, COG WHERE YOU DO HAVE FROM 12 TO TWO, A MILLION PEOPLE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, AND WE'RE ALL KIND OF FIGHTING FOR OUR OWN, UH, PIECES OF THE PIE IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH COLLABORATION THAT CAN HAPPEN THERE WHEN IT'S DONE CORRECTLY TOO.
AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN, UM, WHAT'S GOOD FOR, WHAT'S GOOD FOR OKLAHOMA AT SOME POINT IS GOOD FOR ADMIN.
UM, AND SO IF WE CAN HELP, UH, IF WE CAN HELP SMALLER TOWNS WITH NEW IDEAS THAT WE HAVE FOR NEW PROGRAMS OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THAT'S WHERE I SEE OML AS A, UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU WILL FACILITATE THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU DO, BUT IF YOU WILL CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THOSE THINGS AND WHERE WE CAN HELP OTHERS AND OR OTHERS CAN HELP US WITH NEW IDEAS.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK, UH, THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE GOOD IS.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE SECRET SAUCE.
WE PROVIDE THE RIGHT ATMOSPHERE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT I'M SAYING MUNICIPAL LEADERS COME TOGETHER AND WE SEE MAYORS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANY FACET OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, THEY COME DOWN IN THE SHARING OF IDEAS.
THAT'S THE SECRET SAUCE OML EARLY IS VERY GOOD.
WHERE WERE YOU HAVING A PRESENTATION
[7. Approval of Dues Assessments for FY23 for the Association of Central Oklahoma Governments; $60,759.00. ]
ON AYCOCK NONE FROM, FROM STAFF.I JUST MIGHT ASK CUSTOMER MORE.
IF YOU WANT TO SAY QUICKLY, I'LL PUT LIKE A TWO MINUTE DEADLINE ON MYSELF.
IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE, BUT, UM, UH, I GET TO CHAIR THE AYCOCK BOARD, UH, COMING UP THIS NEXT YEAR AND I'VE, I'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED ON THERE.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET, UH, I THINK THERE'S 58 MEMBER COMMUNITIES IN OUR AYCOCK REGION AND, AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO MEET THE RAY POLANDS AND, UH, AND THE MAYOR GET LINKS FROM, FROM GUTHRIE AND, AND FORM THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
AND WE DO SHARE A LOT OF IDEAS WITH EACH OTHER AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE OF COLLABORATION.
BUT ONE THING FOR AYCOCK THAT WE NEED, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THEY ARE AN MPO, UM, BY, BY CHARGE AND, AND THEY HAVE TO EXIST BECAUSE ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE GET THROUGH FOR, UH, TRANSPORTATION FUNDS, UM, OR CLEAN AIR FUNDS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT, HALF TO RUN THROUGH A THIRD-PARTY ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT.
AND SO AYCOCK IS OUR OFFICIAL MPO, UH, THAT THAT MONEY RUNS THROUGH FOR, FOR OUR ROAD PROJECTS AND MATCHING FUNDS THAT WE GET.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY, UH, THERE WAS A HUGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT BY BEING A MEMBER, A DUES PAYING MEMBER TO A COG, UH, AND BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN ALL THOSE MATCHING GRANTS.
THE OTHER THING IS, UH, THEY FACILITATE OUR NINE 11 PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
UM, AND WE HAVE JUST INVESTED AS A GROUP, UH, $18 MILLION INTO SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED NEXT GEN 9 1 1, AND IT IS TAKING NINE 11 COMPLETELY DIGITAL.
UH, YOU CAN, AS OF NOW YOU CAN TEXT IN NINE ONE, UH, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ON THE PHONE, IT TAKES IT TO WHERE THEY KNOW WITHIN SIX FEET OF WHERE YOU ARE.
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT STORY OF BUILDING YOU'RE ON.
IT'S ALL DIGITAL, COMPLETELY DIGITAL.
AND SO OUR NINE 11 PROGRAM IS A HO IMPORTANT, UH, TO OUR AREA AND THAT COMES OUT OF A COG.
AND THEN ANOTHER IS, IS THERE'S A GARBER WELLINGTON COMMISSION THAT'S ON THERE THAT WE KEEP IN TOUCH WITH OUR AQUIFER AND WATER LEVELS AND HOW IT'S CHARGED AND RECHARGED.
AND SO ANYWAY, A GREAT BENEFITS AT AYCOCK I'VE REALLY ENJOYED IT.
AND WE HAVE A, A WONDERFUL HISTORY AND PRESENCE AT ECON.
AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING ALL THE MEETINGS THAT I COULD MAKE.
WELL, THAT IS, THAT'S A SHORT PRESENTATION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE DUDE'S ASSESSMENTS, UM, FOR AYCOCK FOR $60,759.
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COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO FOR ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN OF THESE PURCHASES SOUNDS LIKE A BARGAIN.I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THOSE PURCHASE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
THANKS FOR OTHER PRESENTATION AND CONVERSATION THERE.
MY NEXT, UH, A MOTION TO RECESS AT MY CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CONVENED ADMIN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
WE'RE NOW IN APWA DAVID CHAPMAN.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY, WE REBUILT AGAIN.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MY FAULT.
[6. Approval of EPWA Meeting Minutes: July 11, 2022.]
APWA MEETING MINUTES FROM JULY 11TH, 2022 TO APPROVE.SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[7. EPWA General Consent Items:]
HAVE OUR APWA GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. UH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT NEEDS TO TAKE ANY PUBLIC CAR? DO WE HAVE ACCEPTANCE OF EASEMENTS, EASEMENTS, EASEMENTS, EASEMENT EASEMENTS, APPROVE OF PAYMENT FOR, UH, THEY SELL SECOND CENTERS FOR SHOWBIZ CINEMA AND, UH, YOU, YOU TENDERLY LION CLEARANCE COUNSEL IN THOSE ITEMS YOU WANT TO PULL? NOPE.THOSE ARE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS, MOTION TO APPROVE THE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND MOTION.
AND A SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AND BACK YOU ALMOST LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.
THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED NEXT, UH, WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO HAVING PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
THEY CAN RECONVENE THE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SECOND MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THOSE WERE BACK IN, UM, CITY COUNCIL,
[8. Discussion and Consideration of Management Agreement for the Public Art Program for the City of Edmond.]
NEXT ITEM, D DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION OF MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND COUNSEL.NO, NO FORMAL, UM, PRESENTATION.
THIS IS SIMPLY YOU PROVE THE BUDGET BUDGET HAD THIS LINE ON A MINUTE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FORMAL TECHNICAL AGREEMENT WITH A PCT TO RUN THE DAY-TO-DAY PUBLIC ART PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, STANFORD QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WELL, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION.
IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC.
WELL, WHY DID THEY SAY ANYTHING? DO YOU HAVE ANY ARTISTS IN THE WAY? I KNOW WE HAVE A BACK ROW OF SUPPORTERS BACK THERE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE ON THE BACK ROW.
WELL, THIS IS A LOT OF TIME COMING.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY THAT WE ARE ENHANCING OUR CITY FOR TOURISM AND ART.
UH, WE'RE WE'RE SUCH AN ARTSY TOWN NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE ARTSY COUNSEL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS, UH, ON THIS MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A CHANGE OR YOU WANT TO CANCEL IT, OR I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWAKE.
AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HERE AND I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE.
SO A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE.
OH, MR.
THE CONVERSATION WAS LIGHTHEARTED, BUT THAT IS APPROVED.
AND AS KEEP THE NEXT STEP, COME IN GOING
[9. Discussion and Consideration of direction to City staff related to the calling of a Special Election to consider Referendum 02-21 (Ordinance No. 3832) Ballot to Read: – Shall Ordinance No. 3832 rezoning certain property generally located north of Memorial Road and west of the West I-35 Frontage Road from A Single-Family Dwelling District and E-1 Retail General Commercial to PUD Planned Unit Development which will contain two variances, and (301) multi-family apartments be approved? Yes – a yes vote is a vote in favor of this ordinance and the rezoning. No – a no voted is a vote against this ordinance and the rezoning.]
NEXT ITEM, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF DIRECTION TO THE CITY STAFF RELATED TO THE CALLING OF A SPECIAL ELECTION TO CONSIDER A REFERENDUM, TWO DASH 21 ORDINANCE NUMBER 38 32 BALLOT TO READ SHOUT ORDINANCE NUMBER 38 32 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF MEMORIAL ROAD AND WEST OF THE WESTVOTE IS A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE AND REZONING.
NO, A NO VOTE IS A VOTE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE AND THE ZONING CITY ATTORNEY.
I THINK THIS IS AN AMERICAN COUNCIL.
WENT BACK ON APRIL 12TH, 2021.
THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS ON A CERTAIN PROPERTY NEAR I, 35 FRONTAGE ROAD, NORTH OF MEMORIAL ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF 35 AND SOUTH 33RD STREET,
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UH, SUBSEQUENT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS.THE PETITION FOR REFERENDUM WAS SUBSEQUENTLY FILED AND SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF SIGNATURES OVER 3032 RESOURCES OBTAINED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK TO REQUIRE THE COIN OF ELECTION TO EITHER UPHOLD OR SET ASIDE THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE PROTEST WAS FILED IN THE DISTRICT COURT, OKLAHOMA COUNTY, AND REGARDING THE MANNER IN WHICH SOME OF THE SIGNATURES WERE OBTAINED.
AND MR. COURT JUDGE, UH, NATALIE, MY REAL BACK ON DECEMBER 29TH, 2021, UH, DENIED THE PROTEST.
UH, THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS THE SCHEDULING AND ELECTION POSSIBLE ELECTION DATES ARE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2020 TO JANUARY 10TH, 2023, FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023 OR APRIL 4TH, 2023.
THE STATE STATUTE INDICATES THAT YOU COULD CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION OR YOU CAN DO IT AT THE NEXT GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION.
THE NEXT GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION THAT WE KNOW OF, FOR SURE IT WOULD BE APRIL 4TH, 2023.
STAFF HAS BERNIE SEEKING DIRECTION.
THERE'S NO ACCIDENT NECESSARILY SPECIFICALLY DENIED.
I PUT IT IN YOUR PACKET, AN EXAMPLE OF THE ELECTION RESOLUTION.
AND IF WE WERE GOING TO ASK THE MATTER, BE PUT ON NOVEMBER 8TH OF THE ELECTION GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT FROM THE STATE, AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT, OR A AUGUST 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THINKING PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE THAT I PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SUGGESTIONS MADE BY CERTAIN PARTIES THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. BATTLE HAS INDICATED THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APARTMENTS.
UH, HE ADVISED ME THAT CASE ASSOCIATES, WHICH WAS THE, UH, COMPANY THAT WAS GOING TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND PUT IN BALTA FAMILY ARE NO LONGER INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT AND INDICATED THAT HE PLANS TO DEVELOP IT AND ABANDON THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS ZONING, UH, THE PROPERTY, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS
UH, HOWEVER, UH, AND THEN THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT PERHAPS WE SHOULD ASK A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE TO, UH, NOT REQUIRE US TO HAVE AN ELECTION BY SOME METHOD OF A FRIENDLY SUIT OR ASKING THE COURT TO, TO ALLOW US TO CANCEL THE ELECTION ON THE REFERENDUM.
UM, MY LEGAL RESEARCH WOULD INDICATE THAT THE NEXT STEP, ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE IS TO SCHEDULE AN ELECTION.
UH, I INDICATED TO MR. BATTLE, AND ALSO, UH, HE SPENCER SMITH, ONE OF THE PROTESTERS, UH, PROPONENTS OF THE PROTEST INDICATED THAT, UH, THAT IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO COURT, UH, CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, UH, BE UP TO THE COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED ME TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT HOW ANXIOUS ARE.
PEOPLE ARE TO HAVE AN ELECTION DUE FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UH, BUT MR. BATTLE HAS INDICATED THAT HE IS NO LONGER WANT TO PURSUE THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO I SEE YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT IS DIRECT ME TO MOVE FORWARD AND PUT AN ITEM ON OUR AUGUST 22ND AGENDA TO PUT, UH, THIS MATTER SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 8TH, OR WE CAN BE AT A LATER TIME IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO JANUARY, FEBRUARY, OR APRIL, IF YOU WANT TO AUTHORIZE ME TO EXPLORE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME SORT OF DISTRICT COURT ACTION WITH REGARD TO NOT HAVING TO HAVE THE ELECTION, GLAD TO LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER, UM, THAT THAT'S, THOSE ARE, I SEE, UH, MY OPTIONS, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT OR THE CITY'S OPTIONS, I BELIEVE MR. BATTLE IS HERE.
DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO BE HEARD OR NOT.
THERE MAY BE OTHER PERSONS THAT WANT TO EXPRESS AN OPINION OR VIEW ON THIS MATTER.
SO JUST KIND OF NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE NEEDING TO DO IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AT THIS TIME FOR CITY ATTORNEY? I'VE GOT A FEW THOUGHTS.
UM, WHAT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE IS FOR MR. MURDOCH TO FIND A WAY THAT WE COULD, UH, EXPEDITE THIS SITUATION, TO GET OUR ZONING BACK TO E ONE OR TWO, WHATEVER, UH, FRANKLY, BATTLES NEEDS IN ORDER TO SELL THIS PROPERTY AND GO DOWN THE ROAD IN THAT MANNER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF A DISTRICT JUDGE WOULD ALLOW US NOT TO HAVE THE ELECTION CONSIDERING IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT THE CITIZENS WOULD BE WANTING OUT OF THE ELECTION IS ALREADY GRANTED.
THE SECOND THING I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS WE WOULD NEED YOUR INTERCHANGE, A CHANGE OF ZONING BACK TO, IS IT
SO IT WON'T BE MULTIFAMILY AT THAT POINT.
AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE CITIZENS WILL HAVE GOTTEN WHAT THEY WANTED WITHOUT GOING TO COURT.
AND MR. BATTLES WILL BE ABLE TO SELL THE PROPERTY SIGNIFICANTLY SOONER THAN IF WE WENT.
ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, IS HOW QUICKLY COULD WE GET IT THROUGH, UH, OUR PROCESS TO GET THE ZONING CHANGE
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SO THAT WE COULD CHANGE THAT WITH THE DISTRICT JUDGE TO SHOW HIM THAT THAT HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.IS THERE AN EXPEDITE PROCESS FROM WHICH WE COULD GET THAT THROUGH OUR ZONING IN ORDER TO TAKE THAT PLACE? WELL, I THINK THERE'S TWO ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUES OF WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
A LOT OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S A REFERENDUM PETITION PENDING AND THERE'S BEEN NO REFERENCE TO PETITION ELECTION HALE.
I BELIEVE THE LEGAL RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE INDICATES THAT ONCE THEY REFERENDUM PETITION PROCESS HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED, THAT THERE ARE SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF SIGNATURES, ALL PROTESTS ARE BEEN RESOLVED AND THE NEXT STEP IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ELECTION.
SO I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE POWER AND THE AUTHORITY TO EVEN REZONE THE PROPERTY WHILE THAT, THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS CIVIC TO THE REFERENDUM PROCESS.
EVEN IF THE PARTIES THAT PUT THE PETITION ON WOULD STILL HAVE A THREAT OF LOSING WHAT IT IS THEY WANTED.
I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT JEOPARDIZES US.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING OUT FOR THAT, BUT PRACTICALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO GO TO THE EXPENSE OF DOING THIS AND TO PUT BATTLES IN THAT POSITION ANY LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
I JUST CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE 3000 SOWS PERSONS WHO SIGNED THE PETITION FOR REFERENDUM.
I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO, SO LET ME ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
YOU HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND APPLICATION NEED TO BE FILED RIGHT HERE WOULD NEED TO BE HELD BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOTICE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER OVER AT 300 FEET.
AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW.
AND THEN ONCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD IT, THEN WE NEED TO REFER IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND FOR YOUR ULTIMATE DETERMINATION, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU EVEN HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO THAT FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE OF THE REFERENDUM PETITION PROCESS IS STILL ONGOING.
AND WOULD THAT PROCESS BE ANY QUICKER THAN THE, WELL, IT DIDN'T MY DIFF IF WE WERE TO WAIT TO NOT TRY TO DO IT UNTIL APRIL OF 2023, WELL, NOT SAY THIS NEEDS TO BE ON THE I MEAN, I THINK THE POINT IS THOUGH WE DON'T, I AGREE WITH THE LEGAL RESEARCH.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE AS THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY WHILE THERE'S A REFERENDUM IN ADVANCE.
UM, THE PETITIONERS CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN REPRESENT THE 3000 PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THE PETITION.
UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT I WANT TO FREE THIS PROPERTY UP AND KEEP IT OUT OF ADVANCED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE NEED TO, BY AUGUST 22ND, DECIDE IF IT'S GOING ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH BALLOT, I THINK IT SHOULD GO ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH BALLOT, RATHER THAN A LATER ONE.
THAT'S GOING TO FURTHER DRAG THIS PROCESS OUT.
IT'S ALSO THE LEAST EXPENSIVE FOR THE CITY.
UM, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE BY $13,000.
IF WE PUT IT ON THE JANUARY BALLOT THAN IF WE PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER.
AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY WHILE THE REFERENDUMS HANGING OUT THERE KNOWING THE COURT SYSTEM TOO.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT A FRIENDLY SUIT WILL BE ANY FASTER THAN RESOLVING IT BY THE ELECTION.
AND IF THAT, IF THE PARTIES WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO DO THAT IN THE INTERIM, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT IF WE WAIT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO MISS NOVEMBER EIGHT.
AND THEN, I MEAN, FRANKLY, AND CONCERN FOR MR. BATTLE.
I THINK THIS COULD TIE UP HIS PROPERTY EVEN LONGER.
WELL, WHAT IF THIS HAPPENS? IF SO, YOU'RE WANTING TO PACKAGE THIS AND GO TO A JUDGE.
IF WE DON'T DECIDE TO GET ON NOVEMBER A TONIGHT, WE MISSED, WE MISSED THAT DEADLINE, OBVIOUSLY.
WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR JANUARY.
UM, WELL WE CAN DECIDE ON AUGUST 22ND UNTIL THE 22ND WE GOT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A BOAT ON IT TONIGHT.
WE HAVE TO VOTE BY AUGUST 22ND.
IS IT GOING TO GET IN FRONT OF IT? IS IT LIKELY GOING TO GET IN FRONT OF A JUDGE BEFORE AUGUST 22ND? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I, OR YOU'RE RISKING IT EITHER WAY.
I MEAN, WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE THE CASE OF WE'RE GOING INTO PROPOSED TEST.
THEY'RE STILL PENDING BEFORE A JUDGE.
THERE'S ANOTHER HEARING I BELIEVE SET REGARDING THE ATTORNEY FEES ISSUE.
MAYBE THE 23RD OF AUGUST, I THINK.
SO WHAT'S THE DENTALIUM SO, UH, BUT THE CITY OF EVERETT IS NOT A PARTY TO THAT MATTER.
UH, IF, IF THE PROPONENTS ARE THE PARTIES TO THAT MATTER, WANTED TO SUBMIT THE MATTER TO THE JUDGE AND HELPS THEM, THE JUDGE MAKING A DECISION.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ASKING ME TO STAND IN THE WAY OF THAT, BUT, UH, AND I'M WILLING TO TRY THAT AND I CAN, I CAN VISIT WITH THE PROPONENTS BEFORE AUGUST 22ND, GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA BACK TO MS. CHAMPION'S ORIGINAL QUESTION.
THERE'S NO WAY, EVEN IF WE COULD, THERE'S
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NO WAY WE COULD GET THIS PROPERTY REZONED BEFORE AUGUST 22ND BACK TO TAIWAN.IT JUST LEGALLY CAME OUT WORK.
OR IF A, IF A JUDGE WERE TO DENY IT AND SAY, IT HAS TO GO TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT, FOR WHERE WE'RE AT IT DENIES IT.
THEN DO WE HAVE TIME TO HURRY UP, HURRY UP AND GET IT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LET THE CA OKLAHOMA COUNTY ALEXA BOARD KNOW THE MORNING OF THE 23RD, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO HAVE IT ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER 8TH.
I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO MR. SANDERSON FOR LEGAL COME ON, ALEXA BOARD.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
ALL I'M SAYING, DAVID IS, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN PERFECTLY LIKE THAT, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE PENALIZING.
I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY IS AGREEING TO TRY THAT, BUT THEN WE'RE PENALIZING TO WAIT EVEN LONGER FOR THE, FOR IT TO GO ON ANOTHER BALLOT.
SO CAN I ASK SO QUICK? I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GET ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT TO GET IT THROUGH AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, BUT IF THERE'S A, I MEAN, THERE'S AT LEAST A CHANCE THIS THING'S GOING TO GET TO COME BACK AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THEY WANT MULTIFAMILY THERE AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDER ANYMORE.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO SELL HIS LAND.
I THINK THEN IT'S UP TO MR. BATTLE.
IF HE WANTS TO CHAIN THIS ZONING ZONING BACK TO
ONCE THE REFERENCE HAS BEEN SETTLED, I UNDERSTAND THE SENSE THE OPTION.
AND THAT'S FROM NOW, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFICULT, SO LET ME ASK THIS, IF LET'S SAY ON AUGUST 22ND, WE VOTE TO PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH BALLOT.
UM, THIS FRIENDLY SUIT GETS FILED AND IN SEPTEMBER, UM, THE JUDGE RULES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION.
IS THERE A TIMEFRAME IN WHICH WE CAN WITHDRAW IT FROM THE BALLOT? OR IS THAT THE SAME AUGUST 23? IT'S ON OR OFF PERIOD.
WELL, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS THAT IT WILL BE ON ABOUT, ON OTHER, RIGHT.
I THINK THE IT'S LIKE NOW I THINK IT'S ONLY WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS THAT YOU CAN BE WITHDRAWN.
WELL, I MEAN, IF THE, IF THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL IS FOR ME TO TRY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT, TRY TO GET US SOMETHING BEFORE THE JUDGE FOR THE 22ND OF AUGUST, A HUNDRED, READY TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT, UM, IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON NOVEMBER 8TH ELECTION, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THE ACTION ON THE 22ND.
AND I CAN CONFIRM IF WE CAN REMOVE SOMEBODY FROM THE BALLOT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WILL, ESPECIALLY NOVEMBER 8TH, THAT'S A BIG ELECTION.
THE COUNTY ELECTION BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO PRINT ALL THE BALLOTS AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW, UH, WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON OR NOT.
AND DIDN'T JUST TAKE SOMETHING OFF.
I DON'T THINK HE'D WAIT TILL SEPTEMBER TO TAKE IT.
I THINK CANDIDATES GET ONE WEEK.
AND IF YOU MISS THAT, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN IT.
WE HAD THAT SITUATION WHERE THE CANDIDATE, I THINK IT'S FIVE DAYS, FIVE DAYS, BUT THAT'S THE THING.
ALSO THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ORGANIZED FOR THE PETITION, THEY W THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE AND DAD IS STILL HANGING OUT THERE.
AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE, THE REASON THAT THEY DID IT IS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK.
THEN WE NEED TO HAVE AN ELECTION.
BUT IF WE DON'T, IF WE THINK THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO BLOCK A PROJECT THAT WAS MULTIFAMILY, THEN WE DON'T.
I MEAN, THAT'S SORT OF THE, THE PRACTICALITY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AS A CHARTER CHARTER, RIGHT.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY THINK, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
WELL, I DON'T, I HATE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S RELEVANT.
I MEAN, EITHER WE HAVE THE POWER.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE ZONING UNTIL WE PUT IT ON A BALLOT UNLESS A JUDGE TELLS US DIFFERENTLY.
AND I HIGHLY SUSPECT THAT THE JUDGE WILL NOT.
I WOULD ALSO SAY IF, IF YOU WERE TO TRY AND CHANGE, THE ZONING LOGIC WOULD SAY ILLEGAL WOULD SAY IS YOU REOPEN YOURSELF BACK UP TO ANOTHER PETITION TO GO TO A REFERENDUM.
HE COULD BE BACK IN THE SITUATION ALL OVER AGAIN.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS THE PROCESS.
OR FORTUNATELY, I MEAN, WE, WE KNOW WHAT THE STEPS ARE.
UH, IT NORMALLY GOES TO A VOTE UP HERE COLLECTIVELY UP HERE THAT EVERYONE, IF WE NEED TO LET'S WE NEEDED ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH BALLOT.
THAT IS, THAT IS THE CLEANEST WAY.
SO WE, AND WE KNOW THEY CERTAIN FROM THERE, WHERE DID YOU GO? HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO FORWARD AND HOW MUCH THE BATTLE WOULD GO FORWARD FROM THAT WAY TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED FOR HIM? CORRECT.
AND THEN, I MEAN, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF, WHAT ELSE CAN HE GET IN FRONT OF A JUDGE,
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KENNETH WITH A FRIENDLY SUIT.THERE WAS A LOT OF WHAT IFS AND NO DISRESPECT TO THE, OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S, WHAT THE ANSWER'S GOING TO BE.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IF WE TAKE IT ON NOVEMBER 8TH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A VOTE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL SEE THE NEXT MORNING, WE WILL WAKE UP WITH WHAT THE RESULTS GOING TO BE.
AND THEN WE CAN, PEOPLE WILL MAKE DECISIONS ON THE NIGHT OF, OF, UH, NOVEMBER ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FROM THERE.
MOM'S CERTAINLY WILLING TO HAVE COUNCIL PERMISSION TO WORK WITH THE PARTIES ABOUT IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO GET BEFORE A JUDGE AND GET SOME SORT OF DECISION.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I WOULD WORK TO CONTINUE TO PREPARE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, WHICH I'LL GET THEM DONE AND READY FOR AUGUST 22ND.
SO I'LL WORK ON BOTH ENDS OF THAT, BUT I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC.
WHATEVER COMES FIRST WE'LL HAVE ON AUGUST 22ND, WE WILL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
WE'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM YOUR RESEARCH, FROM THE ROUTINE AND ALL THAT IS NOT.
IF IT DOESN'T COME UP THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO DO, WE, WE WILL HAVE EVERYTHING YOU PREPARED TO GO TO AN ELECTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO BE HEARD.
IS IT ANYONE? UM, ANY AUDITS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
MA'AM UH, MY NAME IS PAULA BERKS AND I LIVE AT 45 ON ONE KAREN DRY.
AND I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH TINA MCCORMICK, PRESIDENT OF THE ADMIN OAKS HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
CAN YOU DO US A FAVOR SINCE YOU WERE WITH THE MASS, CAN YOU GET AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN OVER TO THE, WITH THE MICROPHONES? OKAY.
FIRST OF ALL, OFF SCRIPT, THANK YOU, DAVID CHAPMAN, FOR SPEAKING SENSE.
AND THAT THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO CONSIDER BOTH ROADS HERE BECAUSE JUST IN MY SEAT, I WAS THINKING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE VOTED ON ELECTIONS WHERE THERE'S A DEAD CANDIDATE HAS THIS DIFFERENT, IT COULD BE A DEAD QUESTION.
AND IN MY MIND IN THESE PEOPLE'S MINDS, IT'S A DEAD QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
WE WORKED OUR TAILS OFF BECAUSE WE WANTED THE ZONING TO GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS.
AND NOW THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS THE SAME THING.
SO THAT WHOLE THING, MR. RUGBY ABOUT US GOING BACK AND THEN CHALLENGING THAT ZONING, THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, WE WANTED IT AT THE ZONING THAT IT WAS.
SO ANYWAY, LET'S REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST I THOUGHT WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK.
WE ARE WHERE WE ARE, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE AT THIS CROSSROADS OF VERY LONG ONE YEAR AND TWO MONTHS AFTER THE CITY OF EDMOND CERTIFIED THE SIGNATURES OF SOME 3,100 REGISTERED VOTERS WHO WANTED THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON WHETHER THE ZONING ON THE PIECE OF LAND WOULD BE ROLLED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ZONING, WHICH DID NOT ALLOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS.
THIS VOTE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE ON OCTOBER 12TH, 2021, AND WOULD HAVE HAD NOT A BASELESS LAWSUIT THAT I WARNED YOU ALL ABOUT.
I WARNED YOU HAD BEEN FILED AGAINST OUR PETITION ALLEGING FRAUD IN THE SIGNATURE COLLECTION PROCESS.
I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING AN APP.
WHEN YOU WERE WARNING US, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WE COULD DO ABOUT IT.
WELL, I JUST FEEL LIKE IF IT WAS JUST SAID, DON'T DO THAT ANYWAY.
ALLEGING FRAUD IN THE SIGNATURE COLLECTION PROCESS AT DISTRICT COURT, JUDGE HAD DISMISSED THE FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT, FINDING NO EVIDENCE, NO EVIDENCE WAS ADMITTED.
I MEAN, IN THAT, IN THE DOCUMENTS, THEY SAID THAT WE HARDWORKING VOLUNTEERS COVERED THE PARAGRAPH UP TOP.
I MEAN, ALL THIS INSULTING STUFF THAT DID NOT HAPPEN WHILE WE DID HIS WORK HOURS IN THE SUN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND HERE WE ARE A YEAR AND TWO MONTHS LATER, BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY FACING ANOTHER DILEMMA, THE LANDOWNER FRANK BATTLE OF EXPRESSWAY DEVELOPMENT, LLC.
NOW ALSO LIKE US HOMEOWNERS WANTS THE SAME ZONING ROAD BACK.
HE DID NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH TULSA BASED DEPARTMENT DEVELOPER CASE AND ASSOCIATES WHEN IT EXPIRED.
AND IN FACT HAS A NEW CONTRACT WITH A NEW BUYER FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SINCE ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS NOW WANT THE SAME ROLL BACK ZONING, WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.
IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A JUDICIOUS ALTERNATIVE TO IRRESPONSIBLY.
I THINK IT'S VERY IRRESPONSIBLE IF WE, AND CONFUSING AND MISLEADING TO THE EDMOND VOTERS.
IF WE PUT A QUESTION ON THE BALLOT AND ON WHICH NO CONTRACT EXISTS ABOUT MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE BALLOT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE BALLOT QUESTION BY LAW MUST MIRROR
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THE QUESTION CIRCULATED ON THE PITCH PETITION EVEN DOWN TO THE NUMBER OF APARTMENT UNITS IN PARENTHESES 3 0 1.SO TO THAT END, I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION ITEM TO AUGUST 22ND, LIKE YOU ALL ALREADY DISCUSSED, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS THE DEADLINE FOR GETTING QUESTIONS ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH BALLOT, MR. BATTLES, GOING TO DETAIL AN ALTERNATIVE AGREEMENT THAT RESTRICTS APARTMENTS ON THE COVENANT OF USE FOR WHICH WE'RE ASKING THE CITY SUPPORT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
AND I KNOW HE HAS ONE ALTERNATIVE, BUT THERE MIGHT EVEN BE A THIRD.
SO THANK YOU, MR. MURDOCH FOR JUST CONSIDERING OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO BESIDE THIS CONFUSING, MISLEADING, IRRESPONSIBLE QUESTION.
MA'AM ANYONE ELSE, MR. BATTLES, COME ON DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
AND I'M THE MANAGER OF EXPRESSWAY DEVELOPMENT LLC.
AND I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 2004 AND IT DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE UTILITIES IN PLACE BECAUSE ALL OF THE SEWER LINE USAGE HAD BEEN USED TO BUY ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES BACK TO THE WEST.
AND THAT SITUATION JUST GOT CORRECTED AS OF JULY OF LAST YEAR.
AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST IN TIME FOR THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE UTILIZED IT.
BUT NOW I'M LIKE SHE SAID, I DON'T WANT APARTMENTS ANYMORE.
I DIDN'T RENEW BECAUSE IT EXPIRED STAKING TOO LONG.
AND IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE WAS GOING TO GO IN THE DIRECTION OF NOT APPROVING APARTMENTS.
SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, DEAL WITH SOMEONE THAT NEEDED IWAN COMMERCIAL.
THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH ME FOR ABOUT 10 ACRES.
THEY MAY EXPAND THAT TO 20 ACRES AND IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL PARK IN SEPARATE BUILDINGS WITH SPACE IN BETWEEN THEM AND THIS MAN THAT, UH, IS DOING THIS.
HE, UH, HE OWNS ABOUT 50 OF THEM RIGHT NOW IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS.
AND, UH, HE ACTUALLY, HE LIVES ABOUT A HALF MILE AWAY FROM THIS SITE.
SO IT'S ATTRACTIVE TO HIM TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY OR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND BE ABLE TO LOOK IN ON IT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH HIM AND HIS, UH, UH, LEAD MAN WHO WAS HERE A WHILE AGO, BUT HE HAD TO LEAVE.
SO YEAH, THAT THE APARTMENT ZONING, THANK YOU FOR ZONING IT BACK THEN, BUT IT'S COSTING ME $7,000 A MONTH IN INTEREST AND THE DELAY SO FAR, IF WE LEGIT SAY THAT IT GETS APPROVED FOR ROLLBACK IN NOVEMBER.
AND IF IT ALLOWS ME TO CLOSE BEFORE THE END OF NOVEMBER, I WILL HAVE SUSTAINED $133,000 OF INTEREST ACCUMULATION DELAY ON THIS PROJECT.
AND IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SWALLOW.
FRANK, CAN I ASK YOU THE QUESTION? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION FROM THE PURCHASER THAT HE WOULD WAIT? I HAVE ANDREW INTO AN EXTENSION OF A CONTRACT WITH HIM JUST LAST WEEK, EXTENDING IT TO NOVEMBER 29TH.
THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WERE A LOSING, MY TRACK IS PASSED OR FAIL.
IF IT, IF IT SAYS THAT THE NEW ZONING IS NOT ACCEPTED AND IT GOES BACK TO THE OLD ZONING, RIGHT.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS ONCE THAT HAPPENS.
AND HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE AFTER THAT ELECTION TO REASON? IT APPEARS TO ME, I, CAN I ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF YOU KNOW, I, I, I READ THE, UH, UH, THE, THE WAY THAT A QUESTION OR THE, THE, THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT.
AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IT'S, IF, IF IT'S BASICALLY, IF IT ROLLS BACK BY THE VOTE THAT IS AUTOMATIC AND IMMEDIATE.
SO THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THAT TRUE? YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
SO MY FEAR IS THAT IT WOULD GET APPROVED FOR APARTMENTS.
AND I THINK THAT THE CHANCES ARE VERY SLIM OF THAT, BUT IF THAT HAPPENS, LET'S JUST SAY THAT IT
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DOES NOT ROLL BACK AND IT GETS APPROVED FOR APARTMENTS.I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND AN APARTMENT USER OR GO BACK TO CASE AND SAY, HEY, COME ON BACK.
UH, I'VE GOT A BETTER DEAL TO DO THE COMMERCIAL, AND I'VE GOT THE, I'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO PAY MY BILLS AND PAY OFF MY DEBTS.
YOU KNOW, I'M 73 YEARS OLD, I'M LONG PAST READY TO RETIRE.
AND THIS REPRESENTS PRETTY MUCH MY LIFE SAVINGS AND WORKED FOR THE LAST 50 OR 60 YEARS.
THAT BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. MURDOCH THEN IF, IF, IF IT'S ROLLED BACK, IF IT PASSES.
AND, AND, AND NOW IT'S APARTMENT ZONING.
NOW, IF WHAT HE'S SAY, IF IT'S APARTMENT ZONING YES.
AND WHICH I THINK THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND IF IT DOES, AND YOU'VE COMMITTED STILL BY CONTRACT TO THIS GUY TO DO THE
THEN AT THAT POINT, EVEN THOUGH THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE THAT WAY, THEN STILL CAN HE FILED TO MAKE THIS THING GO TO E ONE.
AT THAT POINT, THE FILING AN APPLICATION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE APPROVED OR RIGHT.
AND THAT'S A, ROUGHLY TWO TO THREE MONTH PROCESS PROBLEM.
THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO OVERLAP AND START THE PROCESS NOW OF, UH, CHANGING THE ZONING DEPENDING UPON, UM, WELL, I'VE BEEN TOLD, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL TIMES HERE RECENTLY THAT, UH, YOU WERE SUGGESTING I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE, THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL HAS NO JURISDICTION TO MAKE ANY CHANGES WITH REGARD TO THAT PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE REFERENDUM PETITION FOR ELECTION PROCESS, EXCEPT IT WOULD BE IN PROCESS AND NOT CONCLUSION.
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SOMATIC ILLNESS.
I I'M JUST SUGGESTING PATHWAY.
I TOLD THE COUNCIL THAT I WILL EXPLORE THE OPTIONS OF THE, THROUGH SOME SORT OF COURT ACTION AND GLAD TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL WE NEED.
SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME THAT LET'S, LET'S SAY WE'RE NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 8TH AND THE ELECTION APPROVES THE APARTMENTS.
AND I WANT TO GO IN THE NEXT DAY AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE IT BACK TO ONE COMMERCIAL.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THAT ACHIEVED ON A FAST TRACK? BEST GUESS? I WOULD SAY IT'D BE 60 TO 75 DAYS.
THAT'S MY BEST GUESS 60% SITTING IN HERE, BUT THAT'S MY GUESS.
UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT MY BUYER CAN LAST THAT LONG WITH REGARD TO HEAT.
HE'S HOLDING OFF ON BUYING, BUILDING MATERIALS AND BUILDING MATERIALS ARE SKYROCKETING.
I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE THEY'VE STARTED TO COME DOWN HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PRICE OF FUEL, BUT WHO KNOWS BATTLES? I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS SYMPATHETIC TO THAT.
I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO EVERY ONE OF THEM ABOUT IT.
UM, AND I THINK WE'LL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE WHAT BOTH OF YOU ALL WANT AND WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT ON THIS THAT'S.
AND I THINK THAT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE GIVEN OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO BE THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY THAT WE CAN GET.
IT'S A PARALLEL PATH TO, I APPRECIATE PROBABLY THE 22ND ON THAT.
AND, UH, I APPRECIATE STEVE WORKING WITH ME.
AND THEN THIS LAST, HOW LONG WE'VE OFTEN HAD YOU BEEN SEEING ME? OH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES.
SO SOME ACADEMIC SOMEWHERE, IT NEEDS TO WRITE A CASE STUDY ABOUT INITIAL PETITION AND WORKING ON THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE, MR. BATTLE? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING AND FOR GIVING ME THE ASSURANCE THAT I CAN HAVE A PATHWAY TO GETTING THIS DEAL DONE.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE ON AUGUST 22ND.
SO THAT'S THE BASICALLY, THAT'S THE DROP DEAD DATE ON THE ELECTION.
WHAT ARE WE? SO I RECEIVED MY DIRECTOR, SENIORS PROJECTION.
NOW, MARY COUNCIL, WITH REGARD
[11. Consideration of action with regards to the claim Fountain vs. City.]
TO ITEM NUMBER 10, WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PENDING CLAIM OF FOUNTAIN VERSUS THE CITY.UH, JUST AS IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WITH THE COUNCIL, DOESN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
IF I GET A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE ME TO PROCEED WITH SETTLEMENT IN THE CLAIM OF FOUNTAIN VERSUS CITY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
EVERYBODY'S RECEIVED ALL THE INFORMATION.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MR. MURDOCH, TO PROCEED WITH A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE GET YOUR VOTE.
NOW, UM, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION
[12. Discussion and consideration of modifications to the City Council/Edmond Public Works Authority agenda.]
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OF MODIFICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY AGENDA, MAYOR COUNCIL.
WE DISCUSSED THIS DURING THE WORKSHOP.
THIS IS AGAIN THE DISCUSSION, UM, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE MET FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT THE AGENDA STRUCTURE, LOOKING TO SEE, MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE PUBLIC NEEDS, UH, THAT IT'S CLEAR AS FAR AS WHAT ACTIONS NECESSARY.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT, UH, ITEMS THAT NEED A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE LISTED AS A GENERAL DISCUSSION ITEM.
UH, AND THOSE THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED A CONSENT STRICTLY WILL BE LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UH, THOSE ITEMS THAT, UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS WILL BE SEPARATED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR TO THE COUNCIL, UH, AND TO THE MAYOR THAT, UH, UH, INDEPENDENT, ACTUAL NEED TO BE TAKEN AT EACH OF THOSE ITEMS. IN ADDITION, WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, ON PLANNING ITEMS, THOSE ITEMS THAT AREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS CAN EITHER BE CHOSEN TO REMAIN ON A CONSENT AGENDA OR COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO MAKE THOSE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, UH, TOWARDS THE END.
WE, A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION OF INCLUDING A NEW, UH, NEW ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, FOR JUST TRYING TO BLOW IT UP SO I CAN READ MY OWN WRITING HERE, UH, AFTER CITIZEN COMMENTS, UH, WE WOULD THEN HAVE AN ITEM CALLED COMMENTS FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO HAVE, UH, PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO EACH OTHER.
AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE PREVIOUS TWO WEEKS IS NOT FOR ACTION.
IT WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY WANT TO EXPRESS COMMENTS ABOUT, LET'S SAY THE, THE ACTIVITIES OF TODAY FOR THE FUNERAL, OR WE HAD MEETINGS WITH A COG, IF YOU SERVED ON A COMMITTEE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT BACK TO MARIN COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR INVOLVEMENT HAS BEEN, IF YOU DID CITIZEN OUTREACH, IT'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT, UH, THAT WOULD THEN, UH, TAKE THE PLACE OR NOT TAKE THE PLACE, BUT, UH, WE'D HAVE CITIZEN COMMENTS COMMS FROM MARIN CITY AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND WE WOULD MOVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM AS AN, UH, AS A STANDING ITEM, UH, AND DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
IF AT ANY POINT WE NEED TO HAVE NEW BUSINESS, WE CAN CALL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS THAT ITEM OR TO PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
WE FELT IT WAS MORE, UH, PERTINENT TO DO IT THAT WAY VERSUS HAVING AN ITEM CALLED NEW BUSINESS WITH THAT MAYOR COUNCIL ON STANFORD QUESTIONS.
NO, I, UH, WE HAD A DISCUSSION EARLIER.
I LIKED THE AMEND CHANGES FOR EVERYBODY WHO WAS HERE THIS EVENING, WHEN WE GOT TO ITEM 5 87, THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WOULD BE MOVED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MOVED OUT OF THAT GENERAL CONSENT ITEM AND PUT IT INTO HIS OWN CATEGORY BECAUSE IT WAS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION ITEM, BUT IT WAS UNDER GENERAL CONSENT.
AND SO WE AUTOMATICALLY HAD TO PULL IT OUT OF THE GENERAL CONSENT BECAUSE, AND SO IT'S JUST CLEANING UP SOME, MAKING THE COMMUNICATION APPEAR AND TO THE COMMUNITY A LOT SMOOTHER, UH, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FROM, SINCE THIS IS A, UM, DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE I SAID, NOT SEEING ANY COUNSEL, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THE SIDE? 12 OF MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPTED THE SUGGESTION FOR A MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, THOSE DISCUSSION ITEMS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED.
[13. Citizens Comments - (This is an opportunity for citizens, both resident and non-resident, to address the City Council on city related matters not on the council agenda. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. Remarks should be directed to City Council as a whole and limited to three minutes or less.)]
IS ITEM NUMBER 13, A CITIZENS COMMENT.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS, BOTH RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL OR CITY RELATED MATTERS.
NOW FROM CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, CITIZENS MUST SIGN UP TO SPEAK EITHER ONLINE BY THREE O'CLOCK THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR IN PERSON BY THE START OF THE MEETING REMARKS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
UM, FIRST PERSON IS KELLY MCKAY KARATE RESIDENT.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT AND THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THE FIRST TIME I EVER CALLED THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON WAS FOR THE LOVE OF MY BACKYARD.
CHICKENS WE INTERACTION WAS, WAS SO POSITIVE EVER SINCE THEN, I GAINED AN INTEREST IN WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS AND WHAT ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO.
AND I'VE SEEN SEVERAL OF YOU AT EDMUND, DOWNTOWN FESTIVALS AND EVENTS, EATING ON IT, OR A RESTAURANT, OTHERS ON FRIENDS, WASN'T SOCIAL MEDIA, FRIENDS.
AND I'M ALSO, UM, INVOLVED IN ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF EDMOND, BESIDES WANTING TO SHARE POSITIVITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE INCLUSION AND ACCEPTANCE AND INCLUSION, WHERE THE CITY OF EDMOND
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DOES BY THE DIVERSITY INCLUSION SESSIONS.YOU ALLOW MY OWN OWN CHILDREN, AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THEY ARE LOVED AND THAT THEY ARE ACCEPTED.
YOU SHOW THE EDMOND IS WORKING TOWARDS THE, BE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, NO MATTER YOUR GENDER IDENTITY OR WHO YOU CHOOSE AS YOUR PARTNER.
SO WHEN ALL IN ALL, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I KNOW THAT IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.
I'VE HAD PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF YOU ALL, AND IT'S WANTING TO SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MA'AM THANKS RESIDENT IS BRANDO SHADED.
THANK YOU, MAYOR RATTLE SHADE AT 5 0 7 TIMBER DOWEL TERRACE.
UH, I WANT TO TALK ON THE TOPIC, UH, WHICH A GROUP I'M A MEMBER OF CALLED WE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, UH, I WATCHED THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.
PEOPLE IDENTIFYING AS WE, THE PEOPLE SPOKE ONCE AGAIN AT NAUSEUM EXPRESSING MORE PERCEIVED GRIEVANCES ABOUT OVER WHICH YOU HAVE NO JURISDICTION.
THE CITY COUNCIL CAN'T RESOLVE JURISDICTIONALLY AT ALL BY THE CONSTITUTION.
UH, LYDIA LEE THEN SPOKE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS YOU KNOW, LADY AND I SELL THEM ON VERY ON ANYTHING.
UH, WE'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY TOGETHER, BUT I COMMEND HER FOR THE, FOR HER COMMENTS TO YOU LAST WEEK, SHE DID A GOOD JOB.
SO AFTER THAT, I THOUGHT SOMEONE FROM THE WAY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE SHOULD FOLLOW LYDIA'S LEAD AND SAY, THANK YOU TO YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
AFTER ALL THE MAJORITY OF WE, THE PEOPLE WISELY ELECTED THE FIVE OF YOU, DESPITE PROTESTATIONS BY ALLOWED IRRATIONAL SMALL MINORITY OF PEOPLE.
WHO'S PERTAINED TO COME UP HERE, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING AND, UH, ACT AS IF THEY REPRESENT ALL THE PEOPLE, WHICH THEY DON'T.
WE, THE PEOPLE INCLUDES ALL CITIZENS, BUT OUR SYSTEM RECOGNIZES THAT A MAJORITY OF WHITE PEOPLE VOTING IN A FREE, FAIR ELECTION SELECT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU CANNOT BE SEATED UP THERE UNLESS YOU ARE ELECTED BY A MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS AND THAT ELECTION.
SO YOU ARE THE MAJORITY, YOU GOT THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES.
YOU WILL BE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE.
SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE INSUFFERABLE PATIENTS THAT YOU SHOW WEEKEND AND WEEK OUT HERE, UH, WITH THE PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE, WE, THE PEOPLE WHO QUESTION YOUR SERVICE THOUGH, NEVER HAVE SERVED ON THE COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING TO MAKE THE CITY OF THAT IN A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.
THEY HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIME COMMITMENT THAT YOU MAKE TO THIS CITY AND ITS CITIZENS, OR THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THIS PLACE AND CONTINUE IT TO BE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
SO, UH, JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, YOU HEAR A LOT OF JUST CRAP, A LOT OF THE TIME WHEN YOU'RE A CITY COUNCIL.
AND I KNOW FOR A FACT, UH, BUT THERE ARE THOSE OF US.
AND I THINK IT'S THE MAJORITY OF US, CITIZENS OF ADMIN.
WE, THE PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
AND WE THANK YOU THINKING NEXT RESIDENCE, CONNIE FARE THIS THERE, GETTING COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR HIS SERVICE TO BE THE PEOPLE.
UM, WE JUST WANT TO SAY IN MEMORY OF OFFICER NELSON, OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIS FAMILY AND FELLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ENGAGED.
AND YOU GUYS THIS EVENING, INSTEAD, WE HAVE BEEN ATTENDANCE IN THE VARIOUS EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY TEACHER HONOR HIM.
AND, UM, MAY HE REST IN PEACE AND MAY GOD HAVE HIS HAND UPON US AS A COMMUNITY TO SEE US THROUGH THIS TIME OF LOSS AND HEALING.
MA'AM RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE NEW BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA.
COUNSEL, IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS THEN? I LOVE ITEM NUMBER
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15, MOTION TO ADJOURN.