* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call to Order by Mayor Darrell A. Davis.] [00:00:07] I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING THE ORDER SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022, FIRST ORDER BUSINESS [2. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes: August 22, 2022.] APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 22ND, 2022, MR. TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION, SECOND CASH. YOUR VOTE. THOSE MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED. NEXT. WE'RE GONNA DO [A. Proclamation Recognizing September 13, 2022, as Neighbors Night Out.] A PROCLAMATION FOR RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER 13TH AS OUR NEIGHBOR NIGHTS OUT. PLEASE JOIN ME THIS EVENING IN, IN THIS PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT, WHEREAS CITIES, EVAN, COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLIC POLICING LEADERSHIP COUNCIL IS ENCOURAGING THE RESIDENTS OF EVAN TO PARTICIPATE IN A STATEWIDE CRIME DRUG VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAM ON SEPTEMBER 13TH. THAT IS TOMORROW 2022 ENTITLED NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IS AN ANNUAL EVENT IN EDMOND. THE EVENT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN PROMOTING COOPERATIVE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY SAFETY. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF EDMUND ARE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND RECOGNIZED IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME, DRUGS, AND VIOLENCE. INNY THE CITY OF EDMOND, EDMUND POLICE DEPARTMENT, UND FIRE DEPARTMENT, EDMUND COMMUNITY, OR ANY POLICING LEADERSHIP COUNCIL ARE COMMITTED TO ENHANCING PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE RESIDENTS THEY SERVE THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT AND POLICE, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY, AWARENESS, AND COOPERATION ARE IMPORTANT THEMES OF THE NEIGHBOR NIGHT OUT PROGRAM. THEREFORE I DAR DAVIS MAYOR OF CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA ON BEHALF OF CITY OF EDMOND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY CALL ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF EDMOND TO PARTICIPATE IN NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT ON TUESDAY. BUT NO, YES IT IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2022 IN THE CITY OF EDMOND GIVEN UNDER MY HAND AND SEAL CITY OF EDMOND ON THIS DAY OF 12TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2022. FOR ALL OF YOU ALL, YOU ALL MOVED HERE FOR SOME REASON, AND I'M PRETTY SURE SAFETY WAS ONE OF 'EM AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP KEEP US SAFE EACH AND EVERY DAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M SURE YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS? SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, THE C O P C IS A GREAT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION HERE WITHIN THE CITY. UM, WE ARE TASKED WITH, UH, BY CITY CHARTER TO PLAY A ROLE IN, UH, SETTING STRATEGY, UH, STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FOR THE DEPARTMENT, UH, WORKING WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE PUT ON NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTERFACE, UM, THE CITIZENS WITH YOUR DEPARTMENTS. UM, IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IS PARTICIPATING TOMORROW NIGHT, PLEASE GO OUT AND ENGAGE, UH, SHOW LOVE TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S BEEN A ROUGH COUPLE OF LAST MONTHS AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ORDER. CITY [4. City Council Nominations to Boards and Commissions:] COUNCIL NOMINATIONS TO BOARDING COMMISSIONS, MAYOR NOMINATIONS AND REAPPOINTMENT NOMINATION OF WALT STRONG TO THE COM COMMUNITY ORDERING POLICING LEADERSHIP COUNCIL TO FULFILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF DARRELL GREEN TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER, 2023. NOMINATION OF MARK GANDY TO THE CENTRAL EMAN URBAN DISTRICT BOARD TO REPLACE PETE REER TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025. WARD THREE NOMINATIONS AND REAPPOINTMENT NOMINATION OF RACHEL JAMESON TO THE CITIZEN'S PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE, REPLACING MICAH JAMES NOAX TERM. AND THOSE ARE OUR CURRENT NOMINATIONS COUNCIL. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH US? MOTION TO [00:05:01] APPROVE. SECOND BEAR MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE THOUGH. NOMINATIONS NOW ARE NOW APPOINTMENTS. NOW WE HAVE SOME GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. UH, FIRST ITEM IS THE [1. Approval of retirement and donation of K-9 Kor to his fellow handler Sergeant Page Hussey, Edmond Police Department.] APPROVAL OF RETIREMENT AND DONATION. WE TALK ABOUT THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS. WE HAVE THIS FIRST RESPONDER HERE, APPROVAL AND RETIREMENT OF AN AND DONATION OF CAN NINE CORE TO HIS FELLOW HANDLER SERGEANT PAGE, HUSSY OF THE EMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT. WOW. HOW OLD IS COR? UH, HE'LL BE NINE IN JANUARY. WOW. IT'S TIME FOR HIM TO GO OUT AND CHASE BUTTERFLIES. NOW HE DOES THAT NOW. I DON'T JUDGE HIM. HE WOULD WORKING HARD. SO, SO YOU READY TO TAKE CORE HOME? OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. HE'S PART OF MY FAMILY. HE HAS BEEN SINCE SINCE DAY ONE SINCE DAY ONE. OH YEAH. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD HIM? SO HE WAS, UH, NOT QUITE A YEAR AND A HALF WHEN WE GOT HIM. SO HE CAME OVER FROM THE CZECH REPUBLIC AND HE'S BEEN AN OKIE EVER SINCE. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. WELL, COUNCIL COURT WOULD LIKE TO GO RETIRE, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO AUTHORIZE THAT RETIREMENT. OH, LET'S AUTHORIZE IT. NOT GOING HOME. NOT GOING HOME WITH YOU GOING HOME WITH YOU. WELL, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR FIVE, A, A MOTION TO PROVE FIVE A ONE SECOND, SECOND, AND PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. OKAY. COREY, YOU ARE RETIRED. YAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANKS YOU VERY MUCH. AND UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENJOY. ABSOLUTELY BYE. NEXT ORDER IS, [2. Discussion and Consideration of the Issuance of a Request for Qualifications for Festival Market Place development.] UH, FIVE, A TWO DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE, UH, DEVELOPMENT. I THINK MR. ANDY CONNORS IS GOING TO COME UP AND GIVE US, HE'S GONNA GIVE US SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS TODAY. UM, YES, JUST BRING 'EM ALL IN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING YOU UP AND DOWN. THAT'S RIGHT. I'LL I'LL, I'LL STAY RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD THAT I HAVE TO FOLLOW SUCH A BELOVED FIGURE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND SO HERE I AM. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. APPRECIATE THAT. SO THIS EVENING I'M GONNA VISIT WITH YOU ALL TO, UH, TALK ABOUT FURTHER ACTIVATING FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE. AND I'VE GOT JUST SOME, UH, SLIDES TO RUN THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT AND SOME VISUALS AS WELL. SO, UH, FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE RFQ IS TITLE, IS THIS SLIDE. SO REALLY THE GOAL TODAY IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION. SO, UM, IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO TAKE THIS STEP BEFORE THE RFQ, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WAS ISSUED. SO TO HEAR COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC THOUGHTS, PUBLIC THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS IDEA. SO, UH, SORT OF TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE IDEA AND THE WHY, AND THEN TO GATHER FEEDBACK AS WELL. SO, UH, STAFF IS MOVING FORWARD WITH, IS COMING FORWARD WITH, TO YOU ALL WITH THIS BECAUSE, UM, AS YOU'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT, UM, THE LAST FEW YEARS IN DOWNTOWN, WE'VE BEEN BIG PROPONENTS OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, SO STRENGTHEN DOWNTOWN. SO SOME RECENT EXAMPLES OF THAT HAVE BEEN THE ENACTED TIF DISTRICT, WHICH STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 2020, WHICH, UH, TWO OF THE INITIAL THINGS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD WITH THAT IS A FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT TO SUPPORT HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE SILOS AND THROUGH THE LARC. AND THEN ALSO THINGS, UM, KIND OF AS, AS, AS MINOR AS I SAY, MINOR, BECAUSE IT, IT REALLY DID ACTIVATE DOWNTOWN THE STREETIES CONCEPT AS WELL. AND THEN THE ROLE THE CITY PLAYS IN SUPPORTING EVENTS LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET VIBES, THE ARTS FESTIVAL AND THINGS LIKE HERD ON HERD. SO HOW THIS WOULD OCCUR, UM, IS WHAT WE WOULD BE ENTERING INTO IS A LEASE WITH AN OPERATOR DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE A BUSINESS IN FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE. AND I'LL GET TO A VISUAL HERE IN JUST A SECOND TO FURTHER TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT, WHERE THAT SPACE ACTUALLY IS. SO, UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET, AGAIN, TO A QUALIFIED OPERATOR DEVELOPER TO FURTHER ACTIVATE THE AREA. SO IN THE, HOW THIS WOULD OCCUR IS AGAIN, THE ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION. THERE WILL BE A SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE FORMED THAT WILL CONSIST OF CITY STAFF, JANET YAO, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE E E D A AND THEN A DIVA REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH WILL BE STEPHANIE CARROLL, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVA, WHO IS HERE THIS EVENING WITH US. AND THEN WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THE RE THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE ISSUED, THEN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE WILL VET THOSE. AND IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WE'LL NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF THAT LEASE AND NOTHING WILL OCCUR UNTIL IT COMES BACK IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THERE WILL BE A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THAT WILL BE HEARD ONCE AGAIN AND ALL THE TERMS AND [00:10:01] EVERYTHING WILL BE GONE THROUGH IN THIS PROCESS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A KICKOFF TO SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL'S INTEREST IS IN THIS. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC FEEDBACK, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT AS WELL. SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WHY OF THIS. SO IN THE 2014 DOWNTOWN MASTER, AND I JUST LISTED TWO THINGS, THE 2014 DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, THE VISION OF THAT WAS TO CREATE A HEALTHY, VIBRANT WALKABLE, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, FULL OF PEOPLE, LIVING, WORKING, EATING, PLAIN SHOPPING AND LEARNING. AND THEN ALSO, UH, THROUGH THE TIFS DISTRICT. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS, UH, CREATE FURTHER DENSITY IN DOWNTOWN. SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT THAT ACCOMPLISHES BOTH THE VISIONS OF THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS. UM, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE WAS ATTRACTING AND SUPPORTING COMPLIMENTARY ACTIVITIES TO THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING DOWN HERE, NEW SALES TAX REVENUE, AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT LOCALLY OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESSES. SO I MENTIONED AN OVERVIEW AND WOW, THIS LOOKED REALLY BIG ON MY COMPUTER WHEN I'M SITTING THERE ON MY SCREENS. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I REALIZED IT'S NOT SO BIG WHEN HE GETS ON THIS ONE, BUT WHAT I'LL DO IS JUST TRY TO ORIENTATE EVERYBODY TO WHERE WE'RE AT. SO HERE WE ARE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS EDMOND ROAD, SECOND STREET, THIS IS BROADWAY. SO THIS IS THE FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE AREA. AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER VISUAL THAT I'LL SHOW HERE IN JUST A SECOND. SO, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOUGH IS, AGAIN, THIS IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET, AND I SPENT SOME TIME YESTERDAY JUST WALKING AROUND DOWNTOWN. UH, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD, THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UH, IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING IN THE AREA TO SUPPORT THIS? SO WITHIN A THREE TO FIVE MINUTE WALK OF WHERE THIS IS, I COUNTED IN ALL THESE BLUE SPACES HERE, WHICH IS SURFACE LEVEL PARK, WHICH IS SURFACE PARKING. I COUNTED, UH, 359 PUBLIC SURFACE SPOTS. AND THEN WITH 50 MORE, THAT WILL BE COMING RIGHT HERE, AGAIN, A THREE TO FIVE MINUTE WALK THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SILOS. AND THAT'S NOT TO MENTION ALL THE OTHER BLUE THAT'S HERE. THAT IS THE ON STREET PARKING AS WELL. SO WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS CURRENTLY? SOME OF THE ACT, SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH IS AGAIN, JUST DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE, WHERE WE HOST, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IS IT'S A STORAGE FACILITY. CURRENTLY, ALL THAT STORAGE IS NOT BEING USED. SO THE SPACE CAN SHRINK A LITTLE BIT. AND IF, UH, COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD STAFF, IT'S HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE TO REALLOCATE THAT, WHERE TO BUILD THAT BUILDING SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STILL SERVES THE F THE FARMER'S MARKET. AND SO THE FARMER'S MARKET FOR THOSE OF THAT, AREN'T AWARE IT TAKES PLACE ON SATURDAYS FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER. SO EVERY SATURDAY FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER, FROM 8:00 AM TO, TO 1:00 PM, AND ALSO ANOTHER ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING THAT YOU'LL GET TO IS TO TALK ABOUT ACQUIRING LAND. SO CURRENTLY THIS AREA RIGHT HERE ACTS AS A HUB FOR CITYLINK. AND IF THIS WERE TO GO FORWARD, WELL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO REALLOCATE CITYLINK TO SOUTH OF EDMOND ROAD. AND SO THAT ITEM IS, IS TO APPROVE THE MONIES, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING FOR PROPERTY, TO ACQUIRE, TO MOVE CITYLINK. THAT'S ALSO ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, CUZ CITYLINK DOES GET QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY HERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REALLOCATE THAT TO WHERE THE HUB IS DOWN HERE. SO WE'LL FREE UP AGAIN, MORE PARKING THAT'S RIGHT HERE TO BE USED, UM, FOR THIS SPACE. THERE'S YOUR BUILDING AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO GET QUESTIONS AND HAVE SOME PUBLIC PUBLIC DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL, SEE, SEE WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IDEA. SO I SAW THE SQUARE AROUND THE BUILDING AND I, YES, IT CONTAINS THE BUILDING AND I THINK SOME PAVING AREA OUTSIDE OF IT, BUT NOT PARKING. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET. AND SO IT IS WITH THE BUILDING AND THEN IT DOES EXTEND JUST A LITTLE BIT HERE TO THE EAST WHERE THERE'S SOME PAVING. SO ARE YOU THINKING IF, AND I KNOW THIS IS PRELIMINARY SURE. AND, AND NOT EVEN A SITE PLAN OR A, A BUILDING YOU BET, SO TO SPEAK, ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THAT THE BUILDING WOULD, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT MM-HMM WOULD TAKE UP THAT ENTIRE SQUARE OR WOULD BE POTENTIALLY OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR, WE WANT TO HEAR IDEAS. SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM QUALIFIED DEVELOPERS AND OPERATORS TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? IT, IT COULD BE WHERE THEY SAY, WE'D LOVE TO TAKE WHAT THAT BUILDING IS RIGHT NOW. AND HERE'S OUR CONCEPTS FOR WHAT WOULD WORK IN THAT FOOTPRINT THERE OUT SEATING, OR YOU BET INSTEAD YOU BET OR DESIGN IT IN A WAY THAT STILL HAS WALKING AREA AROUND IT. YEP. YEP, ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO JUST WANNA CONFIRM WHERE THE SQUARE IS, IS NOT, IS NOT CUTTING INTO ANY PARKING SPACES. NO, SIR. THAT'S IN THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN ALSO TO CONFIRM WHERE CITYLINK HAS BEEN RIGHT THERE, TAKING AWAY PARKING SPACES FOR SEVERAL YEARS. CORRECT. NOW THOSE WILL BE COMING. THOSE WILL BE COMING BACK. ASSUMING WE APPROVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, CORRECT. ASSUMING YOU APPROVE THAT AGENDA ITEM AND THEN WE WERE [00:15:01] TO MOVE FORWARD AND ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY, THEN CITY FOR THEM TO MOVE THEN CITYLINK WOULD MOVE SOUTH. OKAY. CORRECT. OKAY. YEP. MM-HMM IS THERE FROM THE PICTURE WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET THERE, WE ALSO HAVE THE SOME ARTWORK THERE THERE'S NO TOUCHING OR MOVING OF THE ARTWORK OR NO, SIR. YEAH, JUST NORTH OF THERE. THERE'S THAT WE HAVE KENTUCKY DAISY, KENTUCKY, DAISY. AND THAT WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THIS MM-HMM DOES THAT BUILDING HAVE WATER AND SEWER? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER HAS WATER IF THERE'S A, IT HAS SEWER IT'S STORAGE. OKAY. I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT IT HAD. I KNOW YOU, I BELIEVE YOU. SO WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, WHEN THE RFQ AND I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASK ABOUT EVALUATION CRITERIA YES, SIR. AND SO WE THAT'S FOR OUR SELECTION PROCESS. WHEN I READ IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST BASED ON, IS IT THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK? IS IT BASED ON ECONOMICS THAT IT, IT CAN BE BA IT CAN BE ONE IT'S UM, WHAT'S YOUR IDEA FOR HOW TO FURTHER ACTIVATE THIS SPACE? SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR CREATIVITY. ANOTHER ONE COULD BE, UH, ALSO HOW MUCH SALES TAX ARE YOU GONNA GENERATE? ANOTHER COULD BE, HOW QUICKLY CAN YOU DO IT AS WELL? SO I DON'T THINK WE, WE DON'T WANNA SIGN A LEASE FOR SOMEBODY AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA SIT ON IT. SO WE'D LIKE TO, WE LIKE TO SEE THEIR FINANCIALS AND ARE THEY ABLE, ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THIS? MM-HMM SO THEN HOW WILL WE KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, IF WE, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IF WE WANNA LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS, WE EVALUATE IT. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE TO MEET PARAMETERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR MARKERS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HIT, HOW DO WE KNOW? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT YOU LOOKING AT ME? YEAH. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, I, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, BUT I'M GO AHEAD AND START AND I'LL CAN CHIME IN. WELL, I, I, I THINK WE CAN THAT'S AGAIN, WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION TONIGHT. SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT COUNCIL FILLS OUR PRIORITIES, THAT SHOULD BE IN THAT SPACE. WE'D, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK TONIGHT. OR IF THERE'S SOME FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT FEEL LIKE THAT THEY HAVE SOME IDEAS. I THINK TO ME, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PUT A NUMBER, CUZ SOME THINGS ARE IMMEASURABLE. UM, IF THEY BRING SYNERGY TO THE AREA OR A CONNECTION BETWEEN SAY RAIL YARD AND ICE HOUSE. UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PARAMETERS TO MEASURE, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS ON MY MIND IS, UM, AND, AND NEITHER GOOD OR BAD, BUT THE, THE FARMER'S MARKET IS, IS ROLLING. THEY'RE AT A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY TODAY. I THINK THEY, UM, IN 2020 THEY HAD 20 OR SO VENDORS MM-HMM AT FARMER'S MARKET MARKET. NOW THEY'RE OVER 70, SINCE 2020. AND, AND THERE IS SO MUCH MOMENTUM HAPPENING THERE. AND NUMBER ONE, I WOULD WANNA SAY IF, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS HERE, I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TIMELINE TO INTERRUPT A CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TO INTERRUPT THAT IT CAN'T ABSOLUTELY AT ALL BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE GOT A PARKS AND REC WHAT THEY'VE DONE, UH, WITH THAT HAS JUST BEEN INCREDIBLE MM-HMM AND THAT NEEDS TO KEEP GOING. YEAH. UM, SO ANYWAY, SHARING THAT, THE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T FULLY LIKE IS WE, AS GREAT AS FARMERS' MARKET IS IT'S SEASONAL AND IT'S ONE AND IT'S ONE DAY A WEEK OR IT'S TWO DAYS A WEEK, I THINK SOMETIMES, WELL, IN THIS SPACE IT'S ONE DAY A WEEK. SO APRIL TO OCTOBER, IT'S SATURDAY FROM 8:00 AM PM, CORRECT. ONE DAY A WEEK. AND SO TO ME, WHAT YOU COULD MEASURE IS WHAT IS, WHAT IS GOING IN THIS SPACE THAT IS GIVING US THAT MONDAY THROUGH MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. YEAH. UH, BUSINESS OR ACTIVITY THAT, THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THERE NOW. YEAH, YEAH. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO I'M THERE ON TUESDAY NIGHTS FOR BIKE NIGHT AND WE PARK, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THIS, BUT MM-HMM PARK OR MOTORCYCLES. THERE'S PRETTY COOL PLACE TO PARK. UM, AND EVERY TIME I'M THERE, I SIT ON THAT, THE BENCHES THERE. AND I THINK TO MYSELF, I UNDERUTILIZED THE SPACES. SO AFTER THIS, WHEN THIS CAME UP, I WENT THERE AND I WAS JUST DOING MY URBAN THING OF PLACEMAKING AND THINKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND, AND, UH, HOW IT MIGHT TURN OUT AND WHAT IT COULD DO FOR DOWNTOWN. AND WHAT I THINK IT CAN DO IS FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A SMALL BUILDING. I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO GO MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. AND I KNOW A DEVELOPER'S GONNA WANT IT BIGGER, BUT MM-HMM, , UM, MY SOLUTION TO THAT WOULD BE TO MAKE IT VERY SMALL WITH A, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A, A TASTING ROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST HAVE A BAR SPACE OR WHATEVER, AND THEN GO UPSTAIRS AND HAVE A ROOFTOP, UM, TO GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND I WOULD DEFINITELY ONE SEE A SECOND FLOOR AND A ROOFTOP ON THAT. UM, AND THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE COOL IF THE DOORS WOULD [00:20:01] OPEN AND SPILL OUT ONTO THE PUBLIC REALM AND LONDON WHERE I SPEND A MONTH, A YEAR, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE IT'S ONLY REALLY UTILIZED IN THOSE MARKETS FROM LIKE 4:00 PM TO ABOUT 7:00 PM MM-HMM AND IT JUST LITERALLY SPILLS OUT ONTO THE PUBLIC REALM. AND THEN THEY HAVE PEOPLE CATCHING UP ON THEIR DAY OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY GO HOME AND SO THEY DON'T NEED A LARGE SPACE MOST OF THE TIME. SURE. BUT, UH, THEY COULD UTILIZE, UM, SOME OF THAT WALKWAY AND STUFF THAT'S CURRENTLY, ALREADY THERE. YEAH. UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE, BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING I THINK THIS WOULD DO FOR US IS ACTIVATE THAT AREA THAT I THINK IS, UM, UNDERUTILIZED. I THINK THAT BUILDING IS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IT BLOCKS IN AND DOES A LOT OF NEGATIVE THINGS FOR, FOR THAT LITTLE SPACE. YEAH. UM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD ADD A CONNECTION FROM THE RAIL YARD TO THE ICE HOUSE, WHICH I THINK IS DESPERATELY NEEDED RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP BOTH OF THOSE OPERATORS. YEAH. UH, BE MORE SUCCESSFUL. UM, IT ALSO LEVERAGES THE PARKING THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN AS A CITY COUNCIL AND A CITY, UM, OVER THERE THAT YOU COUNTED. YEAH. UM, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE WONDERFUL. YEAH. THE 80 THE EIGHTIES RIGHT HERE. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD FURTHER, UM, I'M HOPING THAT WE COULD GET A GOOD, A GOOD LEASE RATE THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME REVENUE TO SPEND FURTHER SPEND DOWN THERE TO, TO MARKET THIS AREA IN THIS. UH, IT ALSO TAKES CARE OF, UM, SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT I GET THAT I KNOW YOU ALL GET TOO. UM, AND THAT IS THAT THIS IS A ORDERING PLACE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. UM, SOME OF THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT IT'S COMING OFF OF THE BUSES BECAUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE WE USE THE HUB AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS, THAT HUB WOULD BE MOVED, UH, TO THE OTHER SIDE OF SECOND STREET. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL POSSIBLY, UM, FOR PEOPLE ORDERING IN THE AREA. UM, SO I THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A, A POSITIVE YEAH. UM, THE NEGATIVES THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT, OR WE, WE CURRENTLY STORE THINGS THERE THAT IS OF VALUE. UM, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE DO OUR HORSE CARRIAGE RIDES DOWNTOWN, WE HOOK OUR HORSES UP RIGHT THERE. YEAH. SO MAYBE WE COULD FIND A PLACE TO PUT OUR CARRIAGE ACROSS SECOND STREET AND IT WOULD BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO HOOK OUR HORSES WHEN WE DO THOSE EVENTS DOWNTOWN. YEAH. UM, SO I WOULD WANNA SEE A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE KEEP IN THERE AND FIND AN ADEQUATE PLACE. I KNOW WE JUST SPENT MONEY DOING, UM, I BELIEVE THEY'RE COOLERS, UH, IN THERE FOR FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE. AND SO WE WOULD NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR THOSE AND THE TABLES THAT WE DO FOR FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE AND THE ARTS FESTIVAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS PLAN, THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE YEAH. ARE, UM, THOUGHT OF AND THAT WE CONSIDER THEM. AND I THINK WE CAN. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND JUST GIVEN SOME TIME AND LISTENING. YEAH. I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED. AND I THINK THAT TAKING ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, I THINK THAT THIS CAN BE A BETTER USED SPACE, UH, TO HELP US ACHIEVE SOME GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DOWNTOWN. APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. SO GO AHEAD. YEAH, OF COURSE. WELL, I, I WANNA WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY MAKES COMMENTS AND I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. WELL, I WAS JUST THE POINT THAT, THAT THE COUNCILMAN CHAP CHAPMAN BROUGHT ABOUT THIS THINGS THAT ARE STORED THERE. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING ALSO IS THAT THERE IS AN, UM, ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT THAT WE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TO, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S COOLERS IN THERE FOR MARKETPLACE, HOW FAR AWAY WOULD THEY BE? SO THAT IT'S STILL FEASIBLE FOR THE MARKETPLACE. PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHOEVER USES, WHATEVER ENTITIES THAT ARE USING THAT, UH, IN, IN THEIR, WHEREVER WE MOVE IT TO, IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE OR ONE IT'S THE COST ADDITIONAL COST. WE, THE CITY ARE GONNA INVEST IN THERE. AND TWO THAT HAS TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING OR ACCESS IS, IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR WHOEVER'S STORING THINGS THERE TODAY AND POTENTIALLY TOMORROW, UH, THAT IT WILL BE USEFUL, NOT DETRIMENTAL TO 'EM. I BET YOU'RE UP HERE TO ASK, ANSWER MY QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO DO MY BEST WITH THAT, DANIELLE, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE EDWIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. MM-HMM , UH, I REMEMBER WHEN FESTIVAL MARKET USED TO BE WHERE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS NOW, AND WE USED TO GET UP EVERY SATURDAY MORNING AND SET UP TENTS AND THEN THE FESTIVAL MARKET RAN ITS TIME. AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE DOWN THE TENTS AND GO STORE THEM. AND, UH, THIS LOCATION IS WONDERFUL. I JUST, I I'VE LOVED IT FROM THE DAY THAT IT OPENED. I HAVE, AND MY FAMILY HAS HAVE BRICKS THERE. WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO DESTROY THAT WE KNOW GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE STEVENSON PARK PROCESS, HOW IMPORTANT THOSE THINGS ARE. AND, UH, THE FACT THAT WE [00:25:01] DO HAVE A CONNECTION THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BETTER BETWEEN THE ICE HOUSE AND THE RAIL YARD AND COMING INTO THE CORE AREA OF DOWNTOWN THIS BUILDING, THAT SEEMS UNDERUTILIZED SEEMS LIKE IT COULD HAVE A, A BETTER AND HIGHER USE. SO IN EVALUATING THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD COME IN, AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE DIDN'T LIKE ANY OF THE IDEAS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT AT ALL, BUT I THINK WE WOULD NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S EXPERIENCED IN RUNNING SOME KIND OF RETAIL BUSINESS. WE DO WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO ACTIVATE THIS AREA MORE THAN IT IS NOW, AND THAT WOULD BRING IN SALES TAX. AND WE DO WANT SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS AND HOW TO RUN A RETAIL BUSINESS WITH THAT. SO THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE PARAMETERS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WITH THIS. UM, BUT WE KNOW WHAT A SPECIAL PLACE THIS IS, AND I JUST THINK IT COULD, UH, CONTINUE TO BE UTILIZED AND MAKE THIS AREA BETTER AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND, AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE. UM, I THINK WE NEED, I, I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE LIVING DOWN HERE AND HAVE MORE POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE NOW. AND, UH, THAT'S GONNA BRING MORE RETAIL. SO I THINK TO ACTIVATE SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN USED IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE SHOULD LOOK AT POSSIBILITY. BRANDY, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE? THANK YOU, JANET. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEING USED AS A, AS A PARKING LOT AND I, I THINK AROUND IT RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK EVEN IF CITYLINK MOVES AND MORE PARKING SPACES ARE ADDED THERE, THEN IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA FILL UP FOR SURE. EVEN IF, EVEN IF THIS BUILDING WASN'T ANOTHER USE, HOW, HOW DO WE ANSWER THAT? AS, AS FAR AS IF A RETAIL USER COULD POTENTIALLY BRING IN MORE DEMAND FOR PARKING, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY. WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT? WELL, WE ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE 20, 20 PARKING STUDY OF DOWNTOWN AREA. OKAY. UH, AT THAT TIME, I THINK AS PEAK, THE PEAK PERIOD FOR PARKING, THAT WAS STILL ONLY 53% OF THE SPACES DOWNTOWN WERE USED. SO EVEN WORSE CASE SCENARIO, THERE WAS STILL 47% OF THE SPACES AVAILABLE. UH, I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE PROBABLY SEEN THAT NUMBER CREEP UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MORE BUSINESSES HAVE COME. IT'S A VERY POPULAR PLACE TO BE. UH, BUT I STILL THINK WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. IT MAY JUST NOT BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. WE MAY HAVE TO WALK A COUPLE OF BLOCKS, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PARKING THAT IS AVAILABLE DOWNTOWN. WHAT WAS THAT TOTAL NUMBER? I REMEMBER IT TOTAL NUMBER OF SPACES. IT WAS IN THE 4,100 RANGE. YEAH. OVER 4,000. YEAH. IT WAS OVER 4,000 SPACES. I REMEMBER IT WAS SURPRISING. YEAH. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT'S GETTING READY TO CHANGE A BUNCH, GETTING RID OF THE PARKING GARAGE AS WE HAD THE PARKING GARAGE, PARKING GARAGES, PARKING GARAGES, AND A LOT OF STREETSCAPING RIDING A LOT OF ON STREET PARKING WITH PROJECTS AS WELL. SO YEAH. YEAH. CITY MANAGER LIKE HIM. YES. MAYOR COUNCILMAN. THIS IS, UM, I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE EVOLUTION OF DOWNTOWN THAT WE WILL I'LL CALL. THIS IS THE FIRST PROPERTY I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE TO EXPLORE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF, OF WE'VE HAD INTEREST FROM VARIOUS GROUPS AND IN INTEREST PARTIES ABOUT, HEY, WE WANT TO BE IN EBB AND DOWNTOWN. WHERE'S THE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THIS CAUSED US TO THINK AND LOOK, AND BE CREATIVE. AND THIS IS THE FIRST SITE THAT WE'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED THAT WE THINK THERE'S MEDIA INTEREST IN IT. WE'LL GO OUT AND TEST THE WATERS. YOU KNOW, WE MAY FIND THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME PEOPLE PROPOSE SOMETHING, BUT IT'S JUST NOT THERE. WE CAN OBVIOUSLY COME BACK AND SAY, IT'S JUST NOT THERE. LET'S HOLD ONTO IT. OR WE MAY, UH, BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD. UM, WE'LL CALL IT MORE THAN ONE PROPOSAL. AND WE MAY HAVE THE SELECTION COMMITTEE SAY, HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE OFFERS. AND ALWAYS LOOK AT IF THERE'S MULTIPLE OFFERS, THEN MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT TAKES THIS SITE. AND THEN THE CHALLENGE FOR US IS FIND THE NEXT SITE. UM, NOW TO YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR, GREAT QUESTIONS ABOUT CRITERIA. OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT JUST, I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF THERE'S A LEASE RATE. YES. AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A, IT'S A REASONABLE RE FEE SLATE, BUT IT'S ALSO, WHAT'S THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO US. 5,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU MAY GET SOME FORM OF RE RATE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE MARKET RATE OR NOT, BUT IS IT THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? IS IT SOMEBODY SAYS, I'M GONNA DO A SINGLE STORY AND IT'S THIS. OR SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND SAYS, IT'S, I'M GONNA DO A TWO STORY WITH THE ROOFTOP BAR. WE MAY SAY THAT'S MORE OF INTEREST TO US. AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU ON SOME OF THAT LEAST RATE TYPE OF STUFF. BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, I THINK THE CRITICAL THINGS WE'D BE ASKING IS WE WANNA START DATA CONSTRUCTION, THE COMPLETION DATA CONSTRUCTION, [00:30:01] UH, NOT JUST WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD, BUT CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE LEASES IN TOW? SO THE WORST CASE IS TO OPEN UP STOREFRONT AND THEN IT JUST SITS THERE. AND WE MAY SAY, HEY, WE GOT LEASE RATE, BUT THAT REALLY WASN'T THE GOAL OF JUST TO CREATE, LEASE RATE. WE ACTUALLY WANNA HAVE A USER. SO WE NEED TO BUILD ABLE TO PROVIDE US EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE A LEASE IN TOW OR A USER IN TOW. IS IT THE RIGHT USER? WE MAY SAY THAT USER ISN'T THE RIGHT USE FOR THAT PLACE IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT A BABY STORE NEXT TO, TO BREW PUBS, YOU KNOW, WITH ICE HOUSE AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, OR IS IT DIFFERENT USE TYPE OF USES? UH, FINANCES WILL BE IMPORTANT TO SEE IF THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY, BUT WHAT'S THE IMPACT. WE MAY UTILIZE THE E E D A TO DO AN ECON ANALYSIS, SAY WHAT'S THE RETURN TO THE CITY. UH, AND THEN IS THERE SOME SYNERGY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OTHER USES? SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA. IT MAY MAYBE. CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE TIMING? LET'S SAY COUNCIL DECIDES TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. HOW LONG IS IT ON THE MARKET? WHAT'S THE PROCESS? HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET THE WORD OUT? YEAH. WE'D LISTS WE'D LIST. YEAH, APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE'D LISTED SOME TENTATIVE DATES THAT'S IN, UH, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. IT'S ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE. SO WE HAD, WE HAD INITIALLY THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, THE MINIMUM WE HAVE TO LEAVE THIS OPEN IT'S 21 DAYS. WE WOULD PROPOSE TO EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT. SO NOT ONLY WILL IT BE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY PUSH IT TO THE DOWNTOWN EDMOND BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. WE WILL GO THROUGH THE, THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, THE OKLAHOMA CHAPTER REACH OUT TO THEM. WE WILL ALSO, UH, THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COUNCIL OF OKLAHOMA CITY. AND THEN ALSO, ADDITIONALLY, I'VE WORKED WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. ANYONE WHO'S TURNED IN A SITE PLAN IN DOWNTOWN IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WILL ALSO GET NOTIFIED OF THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF FULL DISCLOSURE, WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY A DEVELOPER THAT IS INTERESTED IN DOING A CONCEPT. THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO BUSINESS AT THE CITY OF EDMOND. WE GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANYBODY THAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THIS. SO, ANDY, WHAT ROLE WILL THERE URBAN BOARD PLAY? IT'S BEEN SUSPICIOUSLY ABSENT FROM THIS PROCESS. YEAH, SO THE, OUR, THE STAFF'S THINKING AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, WE WANTED TO PUBLIC DISCUSSION IS IF THERE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SITE PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS, THEN IT WOULD COME TO THE URBAN BOARD. OKAY. SO THERE, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC PROCESS HEARD THERE AS WELL. AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD IF I SAY SOMETHING AND THE CITY PLANNER SHAKES HIS HEAD IN AGREEMENT. SO I KNOW, I KNOW I'VE SAID THE CORRECT THINGS. THAT'S GOOD. SO, SO WITH ALL THOSE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UH, THAT ARE GONNA BE INVOLVED ULI, ET CETERA, DO WE THINK THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR, UH, UM, OUTSIDE OF OKLAHOMA SEARCH THAT, THAT, THAT THIS QUEUE MIGHT GO OUTSIDE OF THE, OH, POTENTIALLY. I MEAN, I'D RELY ON SOMEONE THAT'S MAYBE MORE OF A RETAIL EXPERT, BUT I SU I SUSPECT WITH ONLY 5,000 SQUARE FEET, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET SOMEONE THAT'S THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE REGION THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING SUCH A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY HUNCH. SO LOCAL WOULD BE NICE. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD FIT WELL WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET. AND HERE'S SOME OF THE WHY AS WELL, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. YEAH. SO THAT'S SOME OF THE CRITERIA WHERE YOU SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, SO YEAH. YES. MA'AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL RIGHT NOW? YES, CAROL. THANK YOU. I AM STEPHANIE CAROL WITH DOWNTOWN EDMOND AND, UM, YOU GUYS KIND OF HAVE COVERED MOST OF WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT FESTIVAL MARKET IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO DOWNTOWN EDMOND. UM, NOT ONLY THE FARMER'S MARKET, BUT IT'S USED BY UCO. UM, IT'S USED FOR THEIR INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL AND OTHER THINGS. UM, WE'VE HAD CAR SHOWS DOWN THERE THAT BRING PEOPLE THAT DON'T USUALLY COME TO DOWNTOWN EDMOND. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY PUT THE AND MOBILE MEALS ALSO USES IT FOR SOME OF THEIR EVENTS, UM, CYCLE 66, THE BITE NIGHT, OUR VETERANS DAY EVENT, UM, ARTS FESTIVAL. THERE'S A BUNCH THAT GOES ON NOT ONLY IN FESTIVAL MARKET, BUT ALSO THE UTILIZATION OF THAT BARN. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE PRETTIER OVER THERE OR USER FRIENDLY, WE COULD PAINT MURALS ON IT. I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD QUESTION, I KNOW A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS BRINGING THE ICE HOUSE AND THE RAIL YARD AREA TOGETHER IS WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE THAT WALKABILITY ACROSS THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS, A LITTLE SAFER. UM, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY TIE INTO BRINGING THOSE TWO, TWO SPOTS TOGETHER. UM, BUT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE FARMERS' MARKET. AND LIKE YOU SAID, FARMER'S MARKET HAS COME SO FAR. UM, IT IS THE PLACE TO GO IN DOWNTOWN EDMOND TO MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR FRIENDS, PEOPLE STICK AROUND, THEY GO GET SOME COFFEE. UM, AND SO I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL IN OUR BIG CITY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK [00:35:01] YOU, STEPHANIE, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN? YEAH. SO IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME WHEN I WAS SITTING THERE TUESDAY NIGHT, IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE ARE PRIMARILY UNDER THE COVER. MM-HMM, , IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, UM, EVEN THE ARTS FESTIVAL, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS A VOID IN FRONT OF THE, IS IT DIXIE STATUE? YEAH. THE KENTUCKY DAISY. DAISY. YEAH. YEAH. STATUE THERE. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A VERY UNDERUTILIZED SPACE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT IS A CONNECTION. IT'S A WALKWAY. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO WATCH THE SIZE OF THAT BUILDING THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE A PATHWAY OF, OF SOME SORT, UH, IN CONNECTION. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT'S AN UNDERUTILIZED AREA AROUND THAT. AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THAT METAL BUILDING. I MEAN, IT JUST PUTS A SHADE, IT PUTS A, UM, IT KINDA LOCKS YOU IN THERE OR SOMETHING. YEAH. AND WE DEFINITELY NEED THAT SPACE. UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT EXACT AREA, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE IN THAT VICINITY BECAUSE IF THE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE RIDE GETTING OUT ONTO BROADWAY AND GOING DOWN SECOND STREET IS TERRIFYING TO ME. UM, IF WE WERE TO MOVE IT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, AND MOVE IT INTO WHERE EDMOND MOBILE MILLS AREA IS, UM, I GET SCARED SOMETIMES WHENEVER THEY'RE ON BROADWAY THEMSELVES AND THEY'RE JUST GOING FROM CAMPBELL TO FESTIVAL MARKET, BUT GOING ACROSS THAT LARGE INTERSECTION YEAH. JUST IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE SCARY, MAYBE A POLICE ESCORT. YEAH. UM, SO YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD BE ONE CONCERN. MY OTHER QUESTION IS IF THIS DOES NOT GO FURTHER, I KNOW THAT THE DISCUSSION TO MOVE THE BUSES HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. SO WOULD THAT STILL GET MOVED? MM-HMM OKAY. THAT'S PART OF THIS TOO. AND I THINK THEY'RE TALKING MAINLY ABOUT MOVING CITY LINKS OVER THERE. HOWEVER, NOT THE STORAGE ITEMS, IS THAT CORRECT? DIDN'T I HEAR YOU SAY YOU'D PROBABLY TRY TO STORE WHATEVER ITEMS NEED TO BE USED WHERE IN THOSE LOCATIONS, YEAH. THE FESTIVAL MARKET HAS TO HAVE THOSE COOLERS AND EVERYTHING MM-HMM BECAUSE THE INCREASE IN LIKE DAIRY FARMERS AND MEAT FARMERS, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT COME UP THERE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT FOR MM-HMM AREA TABLES AND CHAIRS. YEAH. THE TABLES AND CHAIRS GET USED A LOT. SURE. HOPEFULLY IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND WITH SOMETHING REALLY FABULOUS, THAT CAN GO THERE AND TAKE UP. AND I AGREE WITH THE SMALLER SPACE. I, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE WE WOULDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO FILL THAT WHOLE SPACE. YEAH. I JUST, I LIKE IT SMALLER THAT TOO PLAZA PART EVERY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS DOWN THERE, IT'S A CLEAR VIEW TO THE RAIL YARD. MM-HMM AND SO PEOPLE GO, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON DOWN HERE. LET'S GO WALK STRAIGHT DOWN THE PLAZA RIGHT. INTO THE RAIL YARD AND LET'S GO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND PLACES TO STORE THESE THINGS NEXT TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. AND WE WOULD NEVER HAVE THE CARRIAGE CROSS SECOND SCHOOL. OH NO, THAT SCARES ME. THAT'S TERRIBLE. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S STATS. PLEASE ASK. OKAY. SO CHIEF, ARE YOU GONNA FOLLOW THAT WORKS AROUND, BUT STEPHANIE, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS HERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MARKETPLACE. MM-HMM WHAT IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO ALSO HAVE WHATEVER WE DO THERE, IT NEEDS TO BE A GOOD IMPACT. WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO EVALUATE WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THOSE RISKS? BECAUSE IF WE BUILD SOMETHING HERE OR, OR WE ALLOW SOMETHING TO BE BUILT HERE AND WE DO ALL THESE OTHER CHANGES AND IT KILLS OR, OR SEVERELY HARM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT HELP BUILD EVEN THE DESIRE TO, TO, TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR JOB. SO THAT'S WHY I, I I'M TELLING YOU, I'M ALWAYS GONNA TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THOSE RISKS AND LOOKING AT EVALUATION CRITERIA BECAUSE YOU CAN'T THINK OF IT AT THE END, AFTER, AFTER THE, THE DOCUMENTS ARE IN AND TRYING TO MAKE THE ASSESSMENT. IT NEVER WORKS THAT WAY. MM-HMM YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT. YES, SIR. JUST ADDITIONAL COMMENT TO, TO MAYBE HOPEFULLY EASE SOME CONCERNS. WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT IN THE RFP, UH, I'LL CALL IT CONSTRAINTS ON CONSTRUCTION, TIMELINE, MEANING, HEY, SATURDAY'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S FARMER'S MARKET DAY. IT'S NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION BY FRIDAY NIGHT. YOU NEED TO HAVE THE SITE, YOUR SITE FENCED OR CLEANED UP. SO IT'S NOT SPILLING OVER INTO THE AREA. WE RECOGNIZE THAT. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT, WE'LL LOOK AT PUTTING SOME ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS THAT, HEY, YOUR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD IS THIS, BUT NOT SATURDAYS. YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR SITE CLEAN BY FRIDAY NIGHT AT THIS TIME. SO IT'S NOT A CONSTRUCTION SITE WHILE THE FARMER'S MARKET IS TRYING TO SET UP THERE. SO WE CAN, WE CAN WORK THOSE SITUATIONS INTO WE'LL WORK WITH THE PARK STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADEQUATELY FOR ANY ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND I THINK THIS IS A, I MEAN, IF IT DOES HAPPEN, I WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO BUILD TRUST WITH, WE KNOW THIS FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND NEEDS OR ARE GONNA BE NEEDED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THERE'S SOME HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S OUR DREAM TO BUILD ENOUGH TRUST WITH [00:40:01] THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS THAT THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GO BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER, UM, AND ON SCHEDULE AND EVEN, AND EVEN FASTER THAN, UH, THAN, THAN ON SCHEDULE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BUILD TRUST WITH THEM. THAT WE'RE NOT AT BEING AN INCONVENIENCE TO THEIR BUSINESS ANY LONGER THAN IT HAS TO BE. AND SO I WOULD, IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD, THE FIRST CHALLENGE I WOULD THROW OUT IS BEAT THE SCHEDULE AND BE CLEANER AND, AND MORE PRECISE AND, AND FENCED IN THEN WE'VE EVER BEEN BEFORE AND THINK CREATIVE ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF, OF, OF WHEN THEY'RE WORKING OR, OR HOWEVER THAT WORKS. BUT WE HAVE EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BUILD TRUST WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR, FOR OTHER PROJECTS. MM-HMM ANY OTHER COMMENTS CURRENTLY FROM THE COUNCIL OR THE, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY OF THE AUDIENCE? THERE'S GOTTA BE OTHER COMMENTS, OTHER OPINIONS. WHAT ABOUT MY TIKI BAR? YOU CAN READ, ALWAYS PROMOTING THE PAPER. OKAY. COUNSEL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS, CONCERNS. SO, MAYOR, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS? YES. AND THEN TO ALSO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE. YEAH. SO WHAT STAFF IS SEEKING IS, IS APPROVAL FROM THE COUNCIL TO ISSUE THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. THAT WILL BE MODIFIED BASED UPON THE THINGS YOU ALL HAVE SAID THIS EVENING. I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE HERE? NO, WE WILL PUSH IT. WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THE COMMENTS. SO THE ISSUANCE OF WE'LL PUSH THAT BACK A LITTLE AND WE WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR LONGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORD GETS OUT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NOW, AND THE OTHER REASON WHY I ASKED ABOUT OUTSIDE OF OKLAHOMA, BECAUSE WE JUST SAY TWO O'CLOCK AND WE NEED TO SAY TWO O'CLOCK, SO, OH YEAH. YES, YES, SIR. YEAH. ON, SO ON THE CITY WEBSITE, IT WILL BE CLEAR WE'LL DRIVE EVERYBODY TO THE WEBSITE. OKAY. WHERE THERE WERE QUALIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED. AND SO ALL THAT LANGUAGE WILL BE ON THE CITY WEBSITE. SO VERY GOOD. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, COUNSEL, GOOD DISCUSSION. THANK YOU ALL MOTION. WE NEED A MOTION. SO A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFQ. AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADD, I THINK WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS WE NEED TO ADD, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT COORDINATING WITH PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT ON THE FARMER'S MARKET, UH, EVENT DURING, DURING THIS TIME OR ANY TIME DURING THAT AGREEMENT. UH, DID I MISS ANYTHING ELSE? HOW ABOUT ALL EVENTS? OH, I SAW, YEAH. I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL EVENTS DOWN THERE. ALL EVENTS, ALL EVENTS THAT, THAT ARE DOWN THERE. MM-HMM SECOND. I'M SORRY, GO, GO AHEAD. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND CALL FOR A VOTE OH, YOU READY TO VOTE? CASH YOUR VOTE, JUST WAITING ON YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THAT ISLAND PASS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, GOOD DISCUSSION. AS I SAID, AND WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UH, THEN THE OTHER [3. Consideration of Acceptance of Public Improvements and Maintenance Bonds for: Curb and gutter for Dutch Brothers, 1500 S. Broadway Water for Hundred Oaks Village PH II Lots 3 & 4 Water for Hundred Oaks Village Phase II, Lots 3, 4, & 5, Block 2 Water, sanitary sewer, and road bore for Kay's Corner Addition, 2020 N. Kelly Ave Detention for Lambrecht Office Warehouse, 611 & 633 Hundred Oaks Dr Paving for 201 Stony Trail Utility bore for Abadan Creek Addition, 511 South State St Utility bore for Abadan Creek Addition, 6th Street & State St Utility bore for Fretz Duplex, 1101 N. Fretz Utility bores for water meters, 719 - 735 W. Main St Utility bores for 2008 Wiregrass Dr, 2024 Wiregrass Dr, 2100 Wiregrass Dr, 2116 Wiregrass Dr, 5649 Ridge Ln Utility bores for 2300 El Cajon St, 1900 Plaza District Dr, 1800 Boathouse Rd, 6124 Dale Ave, 10457 Quo Vadis Dr Utility bores for 8400 Ranier St, 8324 Rainer St, 8332 Rainer St Utility bores for 2516 Amante Ct, 1832 Plaza District Dr, 5600 Cotton Tail Ln, 2309 Cherry Glen Dr] [4. Consideration of Acceptance of Final Plat, Public Improvements, and Maintenance Bonds for Spring Creek North.] [5. Approval of a Transfer of Appropriation for property acquisition in downtown for transit related purposes; $500,000.] ITEMS THAT WERE ALSO UNDER FIVE A WERE THE CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, THE BONDS AND THE FINAL PLA MAINTENANCE FOR SPRING CREEK NORTH. AND ANDY'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE APPROVAL TO TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY FOR 500,000. SO PRESENTATION FIVE AND SIX, BUT WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON FIVE AND 6, 5, 6, AND SEVEN. MM-HMM SIX AND HAPPY TO PRESENT ON FIVE, BUT I WAS PLANNING ON PRESENT ON SIX AND SEVEN. YEAH. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. I'M TRYING TO READ ALL MY NOTES HERE. YES, SIR. YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION ON ADAMS 3, 4, 5, SO WE DON'T GET, YES, THAT'LL BE GREAT. WE NEED A MOTION ON, UH, FIVE, A THREE, FOUR AND FIVE. MR. APPROVE FIVE, A THREE, FOUR AND FIVE SECOND ROSS SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THOSE ITEMS, THOSE THREE ITEMS HAVE PASSED NOW. WE'RE [6. Approval of Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between the City of Edmond, Metropolitan Library Commission (MLC) and the YMCA of Greater Oklahoma City (YMCA) for development of a shared use facility for a 2nd Public Library and a new YMCA Recreation Center.] [7. Discussion and Consideration of a Transfer of Appropriation for the purchase of land for 2nd library and YMCA; $4,000,000.] TO FIVE, A SIX AND SEVEN. YES. SO YEP. SIX AND SEVEN. AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT I WILL COVER HERE AS WELL. I'M NOT FOLLOWING A, A CANINE THAT'S BEING RETIRED THIS TIME. SO THAT'S, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOOD OR BAD THAT, SO THERE WE GO. SO WHAT I WANTED TO VISIT WITH YOU ALL THIS EVENING ABOUT IS, UM, PROJECT [00:45:01] THAT WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT, BUT THIS IS A PRETTY BIG MILESTONE THIS EVENING. SO THIS IS ABOUT THE SEC, THE SECOND LIBRARY AND ADDITIONAL Y M C A A FACILITY THAT LIKE REALLY LIKE TO THINK ABOUT AS A, AS A MULTI-GENERATIONAL, UH, COMMUNITY SPACE. SO THE THREE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING ARE THE LAND ACQUISITION, WHICH IS ITEMS SEVEN, A ONE, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE THREE ENTITIES, WHICH IS FIVE, A SIX, AND THEN ALSO MOVING OF BUDGETED MONEY TO PAY FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION, WHICH IS FIVE, A SEVEN. SO I THOUGHT JUST A SHORT PRESENTATION, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY ABOUT THESE TWO. SO, UM, I DID WANNA POINT OUT TO THIS, THE MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE THREE ENTITIES. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS IS GONNA BE A PROJECT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE Y M C A AND THE METRO LIBRARY SYSTEM. AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH OF THOSE TWO ENTITIES HERE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. UM, SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT ALONG. AND AS, AS WE'VE SAID, FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THIS, UM, WHEN WE PULL RESOURCES, WHEN THREE ENTITIES ARE WILLING TO PULL THE RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITIES, THE ONE THAT REALLY WINS IN THIS DEAL. SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH A FEW OF THESE STEPS. SO FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION, AGAIN, THIS IS LAND A LO LOCATED ALONG 15TH STREET RIGHT HERE. AND THEN I, 35 IS JUST HERE TO THE WEST. SO THIS IS LAND CURRENTLY OWNED BY HENDERSON HILLS. SO YOU SEE HENDERSON HILLS BAPTIST CHURCH, YOU SEE THEIR COMPLEX HERE. AND THE LAND THAT CITY'S TALKING ABOUT IS 9.5 ACRES. AND SO THE ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA'S NIGHT IS APPROVAL OF THAT AGREEMENT. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HENDERSON HILLS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS TO BRING FORTH WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THIS EVENING. SO THE, THE PRICE FOR THIS IS 3.8, $5 MILLION. AND THAT'S BASED ON THE APPRAISAL THAT WAS, UH, CON THAT WAS CONDUCTED. AND AGAIN, IT'S FOR 9.5 ACRES. SO WHY THIS SITE IT'S NEAR THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS SITE AS WELL IS IT OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LOTS OF JOINT USE PARKING. SO THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE HERE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 250 STALLS, SO BY USING, UH, JOINT USE PARKING, THERE'S GONNA BE LESS LAND DISTURBANCE. IT'S A BEAUT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SITE RIGHT HERE, THAT'S HEAVILY WOODED. AND, UH, WE THINK THAT THIS BUILDING WILL FIT IN NICELY WITHIN THAT AND COMPLEMENT THAT AREA, BUT IT WILL ALLOW LESS LAND DISTURBANCE TO HAVE JOINT USE PARKING. AND THEN OF COURSE THE COST SAVINGS BECAUSE LESS MONEY WE'RE SPENDING TO BUILD SURFACE PARKING IS MORE MONEY THAT WE CAN SAVE AND ALSO PUT INTO THE BUILDING. AND THEN ALSO IT'S GONNA UTILIZE AN EXISTING ENTRANCE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OFF OF 15TH. AND SO WHAT THE CITY IS ALSO AGREEING TO DO IN THIS, UM, AND WE'LL GET TO THIS IN A MINUTE, BUT FOR THE UTILIZING THE EXISTING ENTRANCE, AGAIN, ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS FOR THAT IS IT'S GONNA DISTURB LESS LAND. SO THE, IN THE ENTRANCE IS ALREADY THERE. AND ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS SIDE AS WELL IS THERE'S GONNA BE MINIMAL CONFLICTING HOURS. SO ON SUNDAYS, THE Y M C A, THIS IS REALLY OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE CHURCH. AND ON SUNDAYS, THE Y M C A AND LIBRARY, DON'T OPEN UNTIL 1:00 PM AND ON WEDNESDAY EVENING, THERE'S LESS VISITORS TO THOSE FACILITIES. SO AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS THE LAND ACQUISITION. AND WITH THIS ALSO WITH THE LAND ACQUISITION, UM, IT'S IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY IS AGREEING TO, UM, MAINTAIN THIS PARKING. SO WHENEVER THE CHURCH COMES FORWARD TO REPAVE THE, THE REST OF THE PARKING THAT'S DUE IN THE AREA, THEN THE CITY WILL, UH, SHARE IN THAT PROPORTIONATE COST FOR THE SPACES THAT ARE HERE ALSO AGREEING TO MAINTAIN THIS ENTRANCE AS WELL. AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS THE MEM IS A MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE THREE ENTITIES. SO THIS IS ITEM FIVE, A SIX. SO AGAIN, THREE WAY PARTNERSHIP AND THE COMMUNITY WINS. SO THE, THE MOU BROADLY SPELLS OUT THE TERMS, UM, AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WHAT WILL BE THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT OF THIS IS A LEASE IN MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL COME FORWARD BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS. SO WE'RE VERY EARLY ON IN DESIGN. SO BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS WILL COME BEFORE, UH, EDMOND CITY COUNCIL. SO HOW THIS ARRANGEMENT WILL WORK IS THE CITY OWNS THE LAND AND THE CITY OWNS THE BUILDING. SO RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, IT'S EARLY IN DESIGN, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS BUILDING BEING 70,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND ROUGHLY 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE Y M C A AND 15,000 SQUARE FEET WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE LIBRARY. AND THEN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT WILL BE PUBLIC MEETING SPACE THAT WE WILL SAY IS, IS GONNA BE CITY SPACE. SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH, UM, THE CITY STARTING DESIGN ON A NEW CITY HALL AND PARKING GARAGE, WE WILL BE TEARING DOWN THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER. ONE OF THE USES THAT AS HEAVILY UTILIZED THERE IS PUBLIC MEETING SPACE. SO WITH THIS BUILDING, THE 70,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE THAT LOST PUBLIC MEETING SPACE. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MORE ABOUT THE MOU CONTAINED WITHIN THERE. THERE'S KIND OF TWO PROCESSES. WE'RE GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE, BUT WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT WE ARE. AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MINUTE FOR HOW TO GO ABOUT DESIGN. SO WE, UH, THE Y M C A UM, IS SPELLED [00:50:01] OUT IN HERE HAS HIRED SOMEONE TO DO AN INDOOR SPECIALTY DESIGN, MORE FOCUSED ON THE USES IN PROGRAMMING. AND THAT IS, THAT IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW. THE COST OF THAT IS $94,000. AND IT'S PROPORTIONALLY SPLIT BETWEEN THE THREE ENTITIES BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN DO IT 50,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE Y. SO THEY'RE PAYING MORE OF THE COST AGAIN, TO TALK ABOUT THE USES IN THE PROGRAMMING, THIS SPACE, WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, UH, IS PAYING FOR AGREEING TO PAY FOR THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. SO INCORPORATING HOW, UH, THE BOXES FIT TOGETHER, THE BUILDING COMES TOGETHER AND THEN THE PREPARATION, THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, AND THEN OVERSEEING THE ULTIMATE CONSTRUCTION. SO CURRENTLY WE'RE NEGOTIATING, UH, THE SCOPE RIGHT NOW WITH THE SELECTED A AND E TEAM. SO WE HAD A PROCESS WHERE ALL THREE ENTITIES HAD REPRESENTATIVES. I BELIEVE WE GOT, WENT THROUGH A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. THERE WERE 17 FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED TO THAT, AND THERE'S BEEN ONE SELECTED. AND SO OUR HOPE, AND AGAIN, IT'S A BIG CONTRACT THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT ON YOUR NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA. SO WE CAN BEGIN THAT PROCESS AS WELL. SO THESE TWO DESIGNS WILL INTEGRATE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO GET A JUMPSTART FOR THE Y M C A AND THE LIBRARY TO TALK ABOUT PROGRAMMING AND USES OF, OF THE BOX. AND THEN ALSO CONTAINED WITHIN THE MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS JUST, I JUST WANTED TO BROADLY START TALKING ABOUT COST AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S VERY EARLY ON. SO ROUGHLY THIS IS GOING TO BE A $30 MILLION BUILDING. I, I PUT THESE IN AALS AND THEN I SAID VERY EARLY WITH AN EXCLAMATION POINT. SO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THOSE THINGS. ATX VERY EARLY EXCLAMATION POINT IN MY ATTEMPT AT HUMOR. SO THERE IT WAS. SO UM, SO HOW THIS WOULD WORK IS THE CITY HASHTAG HASHTAG THAT'S RIGHT? SO THE CITY WOULD PAY THE FULL UPFRONT COST FOR THIS. SO THE FULL $30 MILLION, ONCE THIS IS DESIGNED, UM, THEN THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT THE Y M C A PORTION, HOW IT WOULD WORK. SO ROUGHLY THAT WOULD BREAK OUT TO 21.4 MILLION. SO AGAIN, THE CITY WOULD PAY THE FULL COST AND WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR HALF OF THAT COST OVER 15 YEARS. SO THE TOTAL COST, UH, TO THE Y M C A FOR THAT WOULD BE $10.7 MILLION OF THAT 30. AND THEN OF COURSE THE LIBRARY PORTION. SO HOW THAT ARRANGEMENT WORKS IS THE CITY WOULD PAY THE FULL COST OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE ROUGHLY 6.4 MILLION. SO THE, THE, FOR THE CITY, THE POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, UH, TOTAL AFTER REIMBURSEMENT WOULD BE 19.3 MILLION OF A $30 MILLION FACILITY. AND THE Y M C A'S COST WOULD BE 10.7 MILLION. AND THEN I WANTED TO LIST ALSO THE OTHER OBLIGATIONS. SO THE OBLIGATIONS FOR THE LIBRARY ARE AGAIN TO EQUIP AND OPERATE THIS FACILITY. SO THE CITY WILL BUILD THE STRUCTURE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO IN THE STRUCTURE ARE GONNA BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LIBRARY FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN FOR THE Y M C A UM, FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE BUILDING, FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND OPERATIONS. AND AGAIN, IT'S A CITY OWNED BUILDING, SO, AND ALL THIS WILL BE LAID OUT FURTHER IN THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT GOVERNS THIS. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME IDEAS OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT VERY EARLY ON PROCESS, UH, WOULD THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN THE SHELL. SO THINK THE, THE ROOF AND THE H V A C AND AGAIN, THE LEASE AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS WILL BE EXECUTED PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION. HOW ARE THEY IN THEIR PROCESSES ON THIS MOU? HOW ARE THEY, WHERE ARE THEY AT? WHERE ARE THEY AT AS COURSE APPROVED OR GOING TO APPROVAL? I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT BOTH ENTITIES GOVERNING BODIES HAVE APPROVED THE MOU. SO WE WERE, WE WERE LAST, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AGREEMENT. I HOPE THEY'RE NODDING THEIR HEADS BEHIND ME. THEY ARE. I REMEMBER THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF EMAILS BACK AND FORTH, SO TOO. YES, YES. AND MR. WHITE WITH THE, YEAH. OKAY, GOOD, GOOD. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S ALL, AGAIN, HEAD NODS OF AGREEMENT ARE, ARE ALWAYS GOOD. LEARNED VERY LITTLE, BUT I'VE LEARNED THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO, UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST ITEM IS ITEM FIVE, A SEVEN. SO THIS IS MOVING OF BUDGETED MONEY. SO, UM, IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR A NEW LIBRARY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IN FACT, THE, THE EDMOND LIBRARY IS THE BUSINESS BUSIEST LIBRARY IN THE STATE. AND THEN ALSO WHEN THE MITCH PARK OPENED THEIR Y M C A, THEY HIT, THEY HAD A, UM, A GOAL OF HOW MANY MEMBERS THEY COULD GET WITHIN A YEAR. AND THEY HIT THAT WITHIN THREE MONTHS, I BELIEVE. SO. AGAIN, VERY BUSY FACILITY IN THE BUSIEST LIBRARY IN THIS STATE, THAT'S SORT OF THE WHY BEHIND THIS PROJECT. AND ALSO IN 2016, RESIDENTS OF EDMOND APPROVED A 10 YEAR SALES TAX EXTENSION THAT FUNDED THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER. SO ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS LISTED ON THERE WAS A NEW LIBRARY. SO THIS HAS BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS IN 2016, $4 MILLION WAS BUDGETED THIS YEAR TO PAY FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION. THAT MONEY IS ONE IN ONE OF OUR TWO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, SALES TAXES. AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO MOVE THAT FROM THE C I P TO AN EDMUND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY FUND. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS OF THIS. THE LEASE AGREEMENTS ARE GONNA STRETCH MULTIPLE YEARS, AND IT'S MUCH CLEANER IF THE E P W A IS THE PARTY TO THAT RATHER THAN THE CITY COUNCIL. SO AGAIN, IT'S MONEY THAT'S SITTING THERE, IT'S BUDGETED JUST [00:55:01] MOVING IT FROM AN ACCOUNT. SO THAT'S THE THIRD ITEM RELATED TO THIS. UM, AND THEN NEXT STEPS AGAIN, I MENTIONED YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, OUR INTENT AND OUR HOPE IS TO HAVE THE DESIGN CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE WHOLE BUILDING. AND THEN IN OCTOBER WOULD BE TO RELEASE A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK RFQ. SO WE'RE GOING ABOUT THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. WHEN WE BUILD A BUILDING, TRADITIONALLY, WE HAVE DESIGNED, WE HAVE BID AND WE HAVE BUILT. SO WHAT THIS CONSTRUCTION METHOD WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS TO HIRE THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR FOR THE BUILDING. AND THEY WOULD HAVE SOME PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF COST ESTIMATIONS ALONG THE WAY. AND THEN THEY TURN THEIR GENERAL CONTRACTOR HAT ON WHEN WE MOVE TO CONSTRUCTION. SO GETTING SOMEBODY ON BOARD, THAT'S MORE OF A PART, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGH EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS. SO WE WOULD, OUR, OUR PLAN AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS IS TO RELEASE THAT IN OCTOBER, TENTATIVELY DESIGNED 10 TO 12 MONTHS, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION 18 TO 24 MONTHS. AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TIMELINES ARE HIT. IF NOT ACCELERATED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON ANY OF THOSE WORDS. I'M JUST SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT THIS LOCATION AND IT, IT JUST COULDN'T BE BETTER TO ME. AND I'M DRAWING PARALLELS BETWEEN MITCH PARK WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, THE Y M C A WENT THERE AND THE, THE AQUATIC CENTER. AND, AND AT THAT TIME, UH, LAST YEAR, 75% OF THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS WERE IN EAST EDMOND AND WERE IN THE EARLY PART OF GROWTH IN EAST EDMOND. I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT PROBABLY ABOUT THAT PERCENTAGE OF BUILDING PERMITS WERE IN NORTH EDMOND BACK WHEN THE Y M C A WAS DONE AND THE GROWTH FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM DANFORTH TO NORTH AND KIND OF CENTRAL NORTH EDMOND, AND THE PARALLELS ARE THE ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AREA. AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE, THE HEALTH RELATED ACTIVITY, THE TRAILS AROUND MITCH PARK, THROUGH MITCH PARK ABOUT ABOUT THREE MILES WORTH, UM, TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY AND MOBILITY THROUGH THAT AREA. THE SAME THING, UH, AT, AT ARCADIA LAKE, I CAN'T GO A MEETING WITHOUT MENTIONING ARCADIA LAKE, BUT THE SPRING CREEK TRAIL, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, JUST A HOP, SKIP, AND A JUMP FROM THIS SITE, AND IT'S GONNA CONNECT TO THE CONNECTOR TRAIL AND THE ROUTE 66 TRAIL AND 77 AND A HALF MILES OF TRAIL RIGHT THERE. AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AT ARCADIA LAKE, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE Y M C A TO BE THERE IN THEIR, IN THEIR KIDS PROGRAMS IN THE SUMMER, AND BE ABLE, BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE ADVENTURE CAMP AT ARCADIA LAKE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO THE, HOW WE COULD GET SO LUCKY TO HAVE A LOCATION LIKE WE DO FOR THE NORTH, Y M C A AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, UM, TO HAPPEN AT 15TH AND I, 35 IS JUST SO MIND BLOWING TO ME AND I'M, I'M THANKFUL FOR IT. AND, AND, AND JUST KIND OF CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE HERE. UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK UP TO THIS POINT AND, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR IT WELL, IN THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LIBRARY. YES. WHAT, WHAT GREAT PROGRAMS THEY JUST GO TOGETHER WITH, WITH THE Y PROGRAMS AND THE LIBRARY PROGRAMS. IT'S REALLY EXCITING, ESPECIALLY ALL THAT BUILDING. YOU KNOW, IT'S A BUNCH OF YOUNG FAMILIES, MM-HMM AND, UH, JUST MORE THINGS FOR KIDDOS TO DO AN MOND AND KEEP 'EM BUSY, HELP 'EM THEIR MINDS GROW, THEIR BODIES STAY HEALTHY. IT'S IMPORTANT AND THANKFUL TO HENDERSON HILLS CHURCH, OH, ALLOWING TO SOLVE THIS LAND. HUGE. THEY, THEY, UM, THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED NOT, UH, IN, IN SELLING THE LAND, BUT MAKING SURE THEY PICKED THE RIGHT PARTNER AND SO NOTHING BUT GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IN THESE MANY MONTHS AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THESE DETAILS. SO, AND THE WHY IN THE, THEY, THEY COULD FETCHED MORE MONEY FOR THIS LAND. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. OF COURSE. AND THEY'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY MORE PEOPLE TO WANT TO PAY THEM MORE, BUT WERE INTERESTED WHO THEIR PARTNER WAS. SURE. SO, BUT THIS IS ALSO PART OF OUR WHY, WHY WE'RE DOING IT. I BET WE'RE MOVING TO THE EAST. WE HAVE ALL THE RECREATIONAL. THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO GO FURTHER WEST OR FURTHER NORTH. OUR TOWN IS GOING EAST. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS GONNA GIVE US THAT CONNECTIVITY RIGHT THERE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR. MM-HMM , WE'RE BUILDING IT THERE. WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT THERE BEFORE THE EAST SIDE'S DEVELOPED MM-HMM YES, SIR. MAYOR, IF I GONNA ASK ANGIE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE ABOUT COST, MAYBE THIS IS, THIS IS ME. THIS IS SAME MANAGER ASKING QUESTIONS. IT'S ON, IT'S ON BRAND. YES, SIR. YEAH. WHAT'S THAT? YEAH. IT'S ON BRAND. YES, SIR. UM, CAN YOU TALK TO US WHERE THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT AND THEN I'LL, I CAN HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BORROW MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE CITY HALL AND THE PARKING GARAGE PROJECT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IT WOULD, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW, AS WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG [01:00:01] IN DESIGN. SO WE KNOW THE MONEY'S GOTTA BE BORROWED AGAINST THE 2000 CIP SALES TAX. THANKS, ANNIE. SO I BRING THAT UP, YOU KNOW, ME AND MY FIRST FIVE MONTHS, I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT FINANCES AND THE STRESSES CITI HAS IS WE WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE, THIS PROPERTY AND DESIGN COSTS, I'LL CALL IT. WE'RE ALREADY 5 MILLION INTO THE PROJECT. WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE UP THERE AT, AT $30 MILLION. WE HAVE A CITY HALL PROJECT TO DO. AND OTHER PROJECTS WE WANT TO DO THAT ARE, THAT ARE BORROWING MONEY. UM, SO WHAT I'VE CHALLENGED STAFF IS WE NEED TO PROVIDE TO YOU THE COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC, OUR TWO PARTNERS, WHAT IS OUR CAP FOR THIS PROJECT? MM-HMM , UH, AND WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH, WITH YOU AND WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH OUR PARTNERS. THIS IS THE CAP, MEANING IF IT GOES OVER THIS, THAT'S GREAT. WE EITHER DECIDE TO VALUE ENGINEER AND TO BRING IT BACK WITHIN BUDGET, OR IF OUR PARTNERS DECIDE, WE THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. ARE THEY WILLING TO PUT THAT NET INCREASE TO IT? UM, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL FOR US AS WE LOOK AT WE'RE GONNA COMING FORWARD HERE DOWN THE LINE WITH THE CITY HALL PROJECT. UH, SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO, TO PROVIDE OUR PARTNERS. WHAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT VERSUS AN OPEN, OPEN ENDED? IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM. DOESN'T WORK FOR US TO HAVE OPEN ENDED AND WE ALL GET, OH MY GOSH, THE PRICES ARE, ARE MOVING UP VERSUS BEING AWARE OF THAT. SO BEFORE WE MOVE TO FINAL AGREEMENTS, WE, WE NEED TO, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, GET WITH OUR PARTNERS TO SAY, WELL, HEY, FIRST INTERNALLY WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANTS AND OUR, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS. WHAT IS IT GONNA BE TO, TO FINANCE ALL THESE PROJECTS? AND WHAT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT WE COULD PUT TOWARDS PROJECT A, B AND C AND LET OUR PARTNERS KNOW THAT, HEY, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE ARE UP TO THIS AMOUNT. CAN YOU LIVE WITH IT OR NOT LIVE WITH IT? OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO CHANGE ON OUR SCOPE OR, OR, OR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR WHAT WE COMING BACK WITH, SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS FOR, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION, UH, ABOUT SAYING THOSE CASH FOR THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. I THINK OUR PROJECT MANAGER THAT WE HIRE ON THIS SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. YES, YES. YEAH. VERY MUCH SO. AND JUST ANOTHER ADVANTAGE OF GETTING THAT GENERAL CONTRACTOR BOARD SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, SO THEY CAN START COST ESTIMATING, NOT JUST TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING, BUT BIG PART OF THIS PERSON'S JOB YEAH. IS TO KEEP THE COST IN LINE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S IT THERE. OKAY. SO JUST, JUST REAL QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST IDEAS AND I JUST WANNA SPEND A COUPLE MINUTES ON THIS. SO REALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT MOVING LEFT TO RIGHT. KIND OF THE, THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF WHAT THESE TWO ENTITIES DO. SO YOU'LL HAVE, UH, A LIBRARY WITH, YOU KNOW, A VERY INVITING SPACE AND SOME BOOKS AND SOME COMPUTERS YOU'LL HAVE THE Y M C A, UM, WITH A GYM AND A TRACK AND YOU'LL HAVE, UH, UH, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT AND YOU'LL HAVE A POOL. BUT WHAT I, WHERE I REALLY THINK AGAIN, TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS MULTI-GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY SPACE IS WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT USES LIKE THIS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SO, UH, KIND OF A KID CENTER, HERE'S A TEENS AREA, AND HERE'S A PLACE FOR, TO TAKE COOKING CLASSES AGAIN, ACTIVATION AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. NO, MA UH, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR AGE IS, AND THEN JUST A LITTLE BIT THE COMMUNITY MEETING ROOM SPACE. SO HERE'S JUST TWO EXAMPLES OF WHAT THIS MAY LOOK LIKE. AND THEN ALSO, UM, CATERING CLASSES FOR, FOR SOME, FOR STEM. SO SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, UH, ENGINEERING AND MATH FOR CHILDREN FROM THE AGES OF EIGHT TO 12. SO JUST KIND OF SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THESE SPACES GONNA LOOK LIKE, AND WHO ARE, WHO'S OUR TARGET TARGET AUDIENCES WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AGAIN, HITTING, HITTING VARIOUS AGE GROUPS ALONG THE WAY. SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE COUNSELING. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE COUNSEL, WE HAVE ITEM SIX AND SEVEN. I MOVED TO APPROVE ITEMS, UM, SIX AND SEVEN, SECOND TO A MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CASH YOUR VOTE. THOSE ITEMS PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE PARTNERS BEING HERE THIS EVENING, SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER AS, AS PARTNERS. IT'S BEEN GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ORDER BUSINESS IS, [B. Approval of Purchases:] UM, FIVE B APPROVAL PURCHASES APPROVE OF CONTRACT EXTENSION AGREEMENT WITH N G T CONSULTING GROUP FOR ANNUAL BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR BUDGET YEAR APPROVAL OF DISPOSAL DIS UM, DISPOSITION OF USED VEHICLES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS APPROVAL OF SERVICES CONTRACT WITH IO [01:05:01] SOLUTIONS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HIRING PROCESS FOR $36,160 DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH M K E C ENGINEERING, INC FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE COVERT REPLACEMENT UNDER COLING ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET SOUTH OF 15TH STREET FOR $41,300, UH, APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER. NUMBER ONE TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH ALL ROADS PAVING INK FOR THE COIL PARKWAY AND I 35 SIGNALIZATION PROJECT FOR $68,956 AND 90 CENTS DECREASE APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL CONCURRENT LICENSES AND ASSOCIA, UH, ASSOCIATED MAINTENANCE FOR CIS INFINITY BY HARRIS'S COMPUTER CORPORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $28,175 COUNCIL. THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR PURCHASES FOR TODAY FOR NOW. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THOSE? MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASES A SECOND. WE HAVE MOTION SECOND, PLEASE. CASH YOUR VOTE. THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. NOW I NEED A MOTION [ ] TO RECESS THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO CONVENE THE EM, ADMIT PUBLIC WORDS, AUTHORITY MEETING MOVED. SECOND MOTION SECOND, PLEASE. CASH YOUR VOTE. WE'RE NOW IN THE E P W A MEETING, THE FIRST ORDER BUSINESS APPROVE [6. Approval of EPWA Meeting Minutes: August 22, 2022.] E P W A MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 22ND, 2022. NEW TO APPROVE MOTION. SECOND SECOND, PLEASE. CASH YOUR VOTE. THOSE MEETING MINUTES ARE PASS ARE APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE OUR E P W A GENERAL [7. EPWA General Consent Items: (Items listed under EPWA General Consent are usually approved as a group with a proper motion from a trustee of the EPWA. Trustees may request discussion or separate action on any item under EPWA General Consent.)] CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF PURCHASES. SO WE, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ONE SEVEN A ONE. THEN WE HAVE THE, UM, ANY OF THE OTHER PURCHASES HERE, APPROVAL OF EASEMENT WITH, UH, JIM CORE TRUSTEE FOR THE RACHEL M CORE REVOKABLE TRUST DATED FEBRUARY 10TH, 1994 FOR WATER MASTER PLAN PROJECT MAIN NUMBER THREE FOR PARTIAL 20 FOR $47,500 APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT WITH LIGHT SPEED PAYMENT USA, INC. FOR CREDIT CARD PROCESSING SERVICES FOR TICKING BIRD GOLF FOR $50,000 APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER. NUMBER ONE TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH SOUTHWEST WATERWORKS, LLC FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 WATERLINE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT $33,685 AND 2 CENTS INCREASE ACCEPTANCE OF EASEMENT FOR, FROM FRANK R CODY SPK, UH, REVOCABLE TRUST FOR WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN PROJECTS, E ONE DASH ONE B E THREE DASH ONE E THREE DASH TWO E THREE DASH THREE AND E THREE DASH FOUR. THE COFFEE CREEK INTERCEPTOR PHASE TWO PARCELS, NINETEEN.ONE AND 19.2 FOR $41,100. AN ACCEPTANCE OF E EASEMENT FROM SHARON JOE DEVO. FOR WHAT WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN PROJECTS FROM AGAIN, E ONE DASH ONE B E THREE DASH ONE E THREE DASH TWO E THREE DASH THREE AND E THREE DASH FOUR. COFFEE COFFEE, CRE INTERCEPTOR PHASE TWO, PARCEL 18 FOR 35,000. THEN ACCEPTANCE OF EASEMENT FROM RYAN NELSON AND SUSAN NELSON, HUSBAND AND WIFE FOR WATER MASTER PLAN PROJECT, MAINE NUMBER THREE, PARTIAL 19 FOR $39,981 AND 76 6 COUNCIL. THOSE ARE OUR PURCHASES UNDER THE E P W A. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THESE I MOTION THAT WE SPEND THIS MONEY, SIR. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, PLEASE. CASH YOUR VOTE. THOSE PURCHASES HAVE BEEN APPROVED NEXT. WE NEED TO AN [ ] NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THE ADMIN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE TO EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO MOVED SECOND MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. WE'RE NOW BACK INTO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. NOW WE'RE UNDER THE [A. Case #Z22-00011 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ________ Rezoning from “A” Single-Family to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for West Thatcher PUD, located at 215 W Thatcher Street. (French Investment Management LLC) This item was continued from the August 8, 2022 City Council meeting.] ITEM. NUMBER EIGHT AS OUR PLANNING DISCUSSION ITEM, THESE ITEMS REQUIRE A SEPARATE VOTE FOR EACH ONE. SO FIRST ONE IS EIGHT A CASE NUMBER Z TWO, TWO DASH 11, PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39, 16 39 16 REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO P U D PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR WEST STATURE, P U DPU LOCATED AT TWO 15 WEST STATURE. THE FRENCH INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT LLC IS THE APPLICANT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. YEAH. THANK YOU. THIS ADAM WAS ACTUALLY CONTINUED FROM THE AUGUST 8TH, 2022 MEETING. YES, SIR. OKAY. AS A REFRESHER, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A P U D TO ALLOW FOR TWO DUPLEXES OR FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR UNITS AT TWO 15 WEST THATCHER. UH, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY. [01:10:01] UH, THE TOTAL PARCEL SIZE IS 13,504 SQUARE FEET, UH, WHICH PREVENTS THE APPLICANT FROM APPLYING FOR STRAIGHT B ZONING FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF DUPLEXES, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE 14,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, IN, IN ADDITION TO ADJUSTING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, THE P D ALSO ADJUSTS THE SETBACKS TO 20 FEET IN FRONT, WHICH, UH, MIRRORS THE SURROUNDING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. THE P D ALSO COMMITS TO DO A LOT SPLIT AFTER THE REZONING IS APPROVED. UH, THE AREA IS DESIGNATED AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE EDMOND PLAN 2018, WHICH SHOWS TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS APPROPRIATE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR JULY 19TH MEETING. UH, CITY COUNCIL DID HEAR THIS AT THEIR AUGUST 8TH MEETING AND TABLED IT TO ALLOW FOR A COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING, UH, WHICH WAS HELD SEPTEMBER 1ST. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, TODD MCKENNA, UH, FOR FRENCH INVESTMENTS, UH, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE HERE AND WE HAD SOME, UH, I THINK CONFUSION ON THE LANGUAGE ON OUR P D ON SIGNAGE ABOUT TWO FAMILY UNITS AND WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA ULTIMATELY BE THERE. AND SO WE DID GO TO COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS. I HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO A COUPLE OF YOU FOR BEING FRUSTRATED WITH THAT, THAT NIGHT, BUT WE DID THAT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. I THINK, UH, MRS. FEES PUT A MEMO TO YOU GUYS. I THINK SEVEN OR EIGHT FOLKS SHOWED UP. ONE PERSON WAS AN INVESTOR WHO OWNED SOME PROPERTY IN THERE AND THE OTHER WERE RESIDENTS. UH, THE ONE ISSUE THAT WAS NOT RESOLVED WAS ASKING FOR US TO ONLY BUILD ONE STRUCTURE ON THE TWO LOTS. AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT OUR MEETING BACK HERE PREVIOUSLY. UH, MR. FRENCH MENTIONED THAT THE PARKING HILL PROVIDE IS GREATER THAN WHAT EXISTS THERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE TWO GARAGES AND THE DRIVEWAYS. UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SOME OTHER THINGS. CHRISTY, CAN YOU BACK OUT THIS PHOTO JUST A LITTLE BIT? I THINK I'VE GOT A, SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT DUPLEXES BEING APPROPRIATE IN THE AREA, AND IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN THE STREET, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME REINVESTMENT IN NEW CAPITAL TO COME IN. THAT'S WHAT MR. FRENCH IS TRYING TO DO THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT HERE IS ALL DUPLEXES. I THINK MR. FRENCH OWNS SEVERAL OF THESE AND, UH, REPRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS GROUP THAT HE PLANS TO BUILD SIMILAR UNITS TO WHAT EXISTS IN THERE. IT'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT. AND AS RANDY SAID, A MINUTE AGO, IT'S APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE EAST ADMIN 2018 PLAN. SO WE DISCUSSED, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. UH, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE AND HOW COULD YOU BUILD A UNIT ON THAT SIZE OF A LOT? AND SO WE DID OUR VERY, VERY BEST TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. UH, I'M NOT UNDER SOME SORT OF DELUSION THAT THERE WAS GREAT AGREEMENT ON EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK THE DIALOGUE WAS HEALTH HEALTHY FROM A STANDPOINT OF PROVIDING FACTS. UH, THERE WAS SOME FRUSTRATION WITH THE NOTICE PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS ENGAGED IN. UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE LANDOWNERS I CAN REPRESENT TO YOU THAT ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPIED LANDOWNERS THAT ARE WELCOMING THE NEW INVESTMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I MENTIONED THAT AT THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, UH, BUT THAT'S JUST MY SUMMARY OF WHAT, UH, HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. I THINK THE APPLICATION IS APPROPRIATE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE 400 FEET SHORT, UH, WE WOULD JUST HAVE GONE FOR STRAY ZONING, BUT THAT'S WHY WE DID THE P UD, WHICH PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A FEW MORE CUSTOMIZED DETAILS IN OUR APPLICATION. SO WE HAPPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UH, THE LOTS ARE FIVE FEET, I THINK, DEEPER HERE THAN THEY ARE HERE. AND I THINK THEY'RE ONE 30 FIVES BY 50 AND WE HAVE TWO 50 S TOGETHER. AND I THINK THOSE ARE ONE 30 S BY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND 55. SO COUNSEL, ANY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? NO QUESTIONS. SO WHAT YOU ALL ALSO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU DO HAVE THE HANDOUT FOR THE, THE, UH, MINUTES OF THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING. MM-HMM , UH, THIS IS AN OPEN, UH, THIS IS PUBLIC MEETING. SO IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? NO COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. OKAY. COUNSEL, MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING. ITEM NUMBER [B. Case #ES22-00012 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ________closing and easement for a temporary construction easement for 3100 North Sooner Road. (Covell 35 Development, LLC)] EIGHT, B IS CASE NUMBER E 2212 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39, 17 39 17. I'M SORRY. EIGHT A DID PASS, UH, CLOSING, UM, AN EASEMENT OF, FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FOR 3,100 NORTH SOONER ROAD COVE 35 DEVELOPMENT, LLC IS THE APPLICANT IS APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. YES. UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CLOSE THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AT THE AREA OUTLINE IN YELLOW. THAT GOES, UH, PARALLEL TO SOONER THERE. UH, IT'S LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THEIR SITE. THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE IN THE EASEMENT IS NO LONGER NEEDED. UH, STAFF SUPPORTS THE CLOSING AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON AUGUST 16TH COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. [01:15:01] ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM AN AFRICAN. I'M JUST GONNA MENTION ONE THING BECAUSE IT'S ENCOURAGING. UH, THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE TO SELL TWO PARCELS UP THERE FOR A TOWN HOME AND A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH IS KIND OF LONG TIME COMING FOR EAST EDMOND, NORTHEAST EDMOND. UH, OBVIOUSLY THE CREST GROCERY STORE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING IN THAT QUADRANT. AND SO THIS CAME UP WHEN OUR BUYERS WERE LOOKING AT SOME TITLE ISSUES. AND SO I JUST WANNA REPORT THERE'S A COUPLE REALLY QUALITY, UH, EXCITING PROJECTS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IT'S GREAT NEWS, TODD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. THAT IRONS PASS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS CASE NUMBER [C. Case #SP16-00034 Public Hearing and Consideration of a Site Plan extension for Abadan Creek Multiple-Family, located at 6th Street and State Street. (Mike Maiahy/M. Rose Homes)] S P 1634 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN EXTENSION, UH, ABADDON CREEK. MULTI-FAMILY LOCATED A SIXTH STREET AND STATE, UH, MIKE MAYA MAHE MAHE IN M ROSE OR HOMES OR THE APPLICANT IS THE APPLICANT HERE. I DO NOT SEE ANYONE RAISING THEIR HAND OR NODDING AT ME OR THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY WERE ADVISED THAT THEY WERE YOU OKAY TO CONTINUE? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT ANY TO CONTINUE IT. OKAY. WE'RE MISSING IT. SOME TYPE OF DEADLINES CONTINU. IT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE IF IT'S, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF, I WOULD ASK OUR, OUR RESPECTIVE ATTORNEY. WELL, NORMALLY THE COUNCIL LIKES TO HAVE SOMEONE PRESENT ON BEHALF OF AN APPLICANT TO HEAR AN ITEM. SO THERE MAY BE OTHER PERSONS HERE TO SPEAK ON IT. I DO NOT KNOW. UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE, YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE APPLICANT TO BE HERE TO, UH, HAVE INPUT INTO IT. SO IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO, I THINK, THINK QUESTION WAS, DOES THIS, DOES IT IMPACT YES. LEGALLY PUT THEM OUT OF THE INHIBITORS FOR THE EXTENSION. I THINK THEY, SINCE THEY FILED THE APPLICATION FOR IT, WE WOULD CONSIDER IT IN PROCESS. WHAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING DAY BE SEPTEMBER 26TH, SEPTEMBER 26TH. MOTION TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 26TH, YOU HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM EIGHT C TO SEPTEMBER 26TH. SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND DISCUSS YOUR VOTE. WE CONTINUE THAT ITEM TO SEPTEMBER 26TH. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM [D. Case #PR22-00028 Consideration of the Final Plat of Gardens III at Kelly Lakes, located on the south side of Sorghum Mill Road, east of Kelly Avenue. (Premium Land, LLC)] IS CASE NUMBER PR 22 2 A CONSIDERATION FOR THE FINAL PLAT FOR GARDENS THREE AT KELLY LATE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SORG MILL ROAD, EAST OF KELLY PREMIUM LAND LLCS APPLICANT IS APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, THE APPLICANT SEEKING APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT FOR A 24 LOTS ON 7.2 ACRES LOCATED SOUTH OFOR MILL IN EAST OF KELLY AVENUE, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, RIGHT THERE. UH, THE PLAT CONFORMS TO THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND IT IS THE FINAL PHASE OF THE GARDENS AT KELLY LAKE SUBDIVISION, UH, PLANNING AND COMMISSIONER REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR AUGUST 16TH MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW? THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? UH, JOEL HARRISON WILL CRAFTON TOLD NOTHING REALLY TO ADD JUST THAT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR ANSWER. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU, SIR. NO QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE COUNCIL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS APPLICATION? HAVE TO PROVE MOTION. SECOND SECOND, PLEASE. CASH YOUR VOTE. THAT ITEM IS PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM IS CASE NUMBER [E. Case #PR21-00048 Public Hearing and Consideration of the Preliminary Plat for 33 Fields located south of 33rd Street and west of I-35 (HEA Development LLC)] PR 2148 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION. UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLANT FOR 33 FIELDS LOCATED ON SOUTH OF 33RD STREET AND WEST OF I 35 H E DEVELOPMENT. LSCS APPLICANT IS APPLICANT HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UH, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLA FOR 33 FIELDS. IT'S ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF I 35 AND 33RD STREET, UH, P U D FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THE PLAT CONFORMS TO THAT P U D. UH, THIS PLA IS 236, LOTS ON 85 ACRES. UH, LOT SIZES RANGE FROM 4,400 SQUARE FEET, WHICH ARE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PLAT TO 9,100 SQUARE FEET ON THE WEST. UH, THE SMALLER LOTS ARE REAR LOADED OFF PRIVATE ALLEYS AND, UM, IN TURN HAVE SMALLER FRONT YARDS OF 10 FEET. UH, THE REMAINER OF THE LOTS HAVE 15 FRONT, 15 FEET FRONT YARD SETBACKS, UH, ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBOR WILL [01:20:01] BE FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE 33RD STREET, WHICH IS SHOWN THERE AT THE TOP. UM, AND THERE ARE TWO EXISTING CONNECTIONS TO THE SOUTH ON STEVEN AND KAREN DRIVES THE PLAT MEETS THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. AND AS I SAID EARLIER, CONFORMS TO THE P U D ONE VARIANCE TO BLOCK LENGTH, HOWEVER WAS NOTED. AND THAT'S THAT LONG STREET HERE. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT DID BREAK THAT STREET UP USING ROUNDABOUTS HERE AND HERE PLAN COMES PLANNING, COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR AUGUST 16TH MEETING ROUNDABOUTS. YEAH, IT'S OKAY. SMALL ROUNDABOUT, SMALL DOESN'T MATTER NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S A ROUNDABOUT FANCY COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WHERE, WHERE IS THIS TREE PRESERVATION ON THIS? I'M MOST OF THE TREE PRESERVATION IS THE FLOOD PLANE ALONG THE, YEAH. SO NOTHING'S DEVELOPED ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, RIGHT? AND THEN THIS AREA HERE, WHAT IS THAT TO THE, IS THAT TO THE EAST, TO THIS RIGHT HERE, UHHUH. THAT IS NOT A PART OF THIS, THIS PLAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. OKAY. THEY WILL PROBABLY USE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FLOOR FOR THEIR TREE. SURE. WELL THAT THAT'LL GIVE US A NICE BUFFER. THERE IS THAT VERY GOOD. YEAH. COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE ON THIS. DO THEY HAVE ON THIS, THE CONNECTIVITY TO THAT, DO THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT ON THIS PLAT TO CONNECT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST? THEY DID SHOW STUFF OUT RIGHT THERE THAT COULD CONNECT POTENTIALLY TO THE EAST. OKAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS A BIGGER DISCUSSION AND I KNOW IT HAPPENS AT PLANNING COMMISSION EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT WE TALK ABOUT, WE TALK ABOUT THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN BIGGER PROJECTS AND, AND PEDS. AND IF THAT WASN'T THERE, I'M JUST GONNA POINT THIS OUT. IF THAT WASN'T THERE AND THERE'S COMMERCIAL ON THAT CORNER, EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT ONTO 33RD STREET AND TURN, AND THEN GO, YOU KNOW, 200 FEET OVER AND THEN PARK IN A PARKING LOT. AND TO THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CODE RIGHT NOW THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT REQUIRES THAT CONNECTIVITY TO, TO A COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND EVEN IN, EVEN IN THEIR OWN P U D. BUT I THINK THAT IF WE DON'T EITHER CATCH IT AND DISCUSS IT HERE AND ASK FOR IT AS A REQUIREMENT, I, I THINK IT'S STRONGLY SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE IN TITLE 22 OR 21 OR BOTH TO, TO REQUIRE THAT CONNECTIVITY OR ELSE WE'RE JUST ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE GRID, UM, INSTEAD OF COMING IN FROM THE BACK. SO THAT'S, I'M THANKFUL IT'S THERE. UM, AND I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROBABLY THINKING OF THAT, BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK WE MAYBE SHOULD GO AS A STEP FURTHER AND, AND LOOK AT REQUIRING IT AS WELL. UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO EMBARK ON THE CODE UPDATE FOR TITLE 21 AND 22 AND 23 AS WE DO THAT. I THINK THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE A PART OF IT. GOOD. BECAUSE CONNECTIVITY WAS SUCH A BIG PART OF THE PLAN. GOOD. MM-HMM , WHAT'S THE CODE IT'S SUPPOSED TO IMPLEMENT. THANK YOU. GOOD POINT. ALL RIGHT. IF I CAN DO, BECAUSE IN THE WHY WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IF WE, ANOTHER PROJECT COMES THROUGH, WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT REQUEST FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THAT IN THEIR PLAN. WE DO EVERY, EVERY TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, ENCOURAGE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WOULD APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? HELLO, JESSICA LLOYD, WITH JOHNSON AND ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. YOU CAN BRING THE MIC DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN . CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH. OKAY. JESSICA LLOYD JOHNSON AND ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. MM-HMM WILL YOU ALL BE WITH THAT ONE STEP OUT THERE? WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO POSSIBLY STUBBING THAT OUT ALL THE WAY OVER IF THE COMMERCIAL COMES IN AND TO ADD THAT CONNECTIVITY? I BELIEVE SO. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. CAUSE IT IS NICE TO HAVE IT NOW TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE ONCE YOU'RE DEVELOPED AND WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME THING, IF THAT WAS A CORNER LOT IN A DEVELOPMENT THAT PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF THIS STREET HERE. SO THAT WOULD BE NICE TO POSSIBLY HAVE THAT. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND I, I KNOW YOUR FIRM WELL ENOUGH THAT I THINK THAT Y'ALL WOULD AGREE WITH THE BENEFITS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT IN A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE DESIGNING. AND SO I, I WOULD BE, UM, AT THIS POINT, UNLESS WE CAN CONFIRM, I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S THERE AT THIS POINT, IF WE CAN, IF IT'S THERE ON THE PRELIMINARY. YEAH. THERE'S A STAB STUFF RIGHT THERE. SO WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU, IF YOU WERE TO PROVE IT TONIGHT, IT WILL SHOW THE [01:25:01] STUFF OUT. AND IF THEY COME BACK WITH THE FINAL PLA AND IT DOESN'T SHOW UP, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM. THANK YOU. STUBBORN DULY NOTED. I LIKE THAT. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE COUNCIL? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS SIDE? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. THAT HONOR HAS PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD, GOOD CONVERSATION THERE. NEXT ITEM [F. Case #Z22-00008 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ________ Rezoning from “G-A” General Agricultural to “PUD Z22-00008” located on the west side of Westminster Road, south of Danforth Road. (Edmond Community Church) ] IS Z 2 2 0 0 8. PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39, 18 39, 18 REZONING FROM GA GENERAL, AGRICULTURAL TO P U D Z 22 0 0 8. LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF WEST MINSTER ROAD, SOUTH OF DANFORD ROAD, EDMOND COMMUNITY CHURCH IS THE AFRICAN IS AFRICAN HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UH, AS YOU SAID, THE APP GONNA SEEK AN APPROVAL OF A P U D THAT WILL ALLOW A CHURCH, UH, THAT ACCESSORY OFFICES, EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES ON 50 ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE OF WESTMINSTER, SOUTH OF DANFORTH, UH, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED GA AND CONTAINS ABOUT 35 ACRES OF FLOOD PLAIN. UM, MOST OF THE FLOOD PLAIN'S RIGHT THROUGH HERE. AS YOU CAN TELL THE SITE, THAT'S NOT FLOOD PLAIN, IS THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. THE CHURCH PLANS TO DEVELOP THE SITE AND PHASES WITH THE FIRST PHASE, BEING A TEMPORARY WORSHIP SPACE AND, UH, ADDING TO THE BUILDING UNTIL THEIR VISION IS COMPLETE. UH, EVENTUALLY THE SITE WILL CONTAIN PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS, CHURCH OFFICES, AND INDOOR OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, AND A SMALL AMPHITHEATER, UH, SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IS A LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND UNDEVELOPED AGRICULTURAL LAND TO THE SOUTHWEST AND THE EAST. UH, THE CHURCH, OTHER BUILDINGS AND PARKING WILL BE ON THE 15 ACRES THAT I NOTED EARLIER THAT ARE OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN ON THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SITE. UH, THE P D UH, DOES INCLUDE, INCLUDE SOME AGREEMENTS THAT CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, PUSHING THE DRIVE THAT GOES OUT ONTO WESTMINSTER AS FAR SOUTH, AS THE CITY WILL APPROVE. UH, THIS WILL LIKELY REQUIRE REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE STORMWATER ADVISORY BOARD AND MEETING WITH ENGINEERING STANDARDS FOR SITE DISTANCE. AND, UH, THEY AGREED NOT TO BUILD THE LINK THAT THEY SHOW OUT TO DANFORTH. UH, THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT THAT EXTENDS UP. UH, THEY AGREED NOT TO BUILD THAT LINK UNTIL FIRE CODE REQUIRES IT, UH, IF AT ALL. AND IF IT IS REQUIRED PUSHING THAT AS FAR WEST AS POSSIBLE IN THE EASEMENT, UH, THE EDMONT PLAN 2018 DESIGNATES THE NON-FOOD FLOOD PLAIN AREA OF THIS AS RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH SUPPORTS THE LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND SUPPORTING CIVIC ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS A CHURCH, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR AUGUST 16TH MEETING. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CAN BRANDY, CAN YOU REMIND ME HOW WE, I KNOW ON RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, 100 UNITS, AND NOW WE REQUIRE TRAFFIC STUDIES. DO, DO WE FOR CHURCHES? THIS IS FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE, NOT, UH, NOT TYPICALLY, UNLESS IT'S A REALLY LARGE BUILDING, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE SEATING, THE, THE TRIP GENERATION RATES, RIGHT. AND NORMALLY THEIR, THEIR PEAKS ARE SUNDAY, WEDNESDAY. GOOD POINT. SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY WHEN THE NORMAL AM OR PMP HITS. RIGHT. SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF IMPACT TO THE ADJOINING ROADS WHEN THE MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC'S THERE. SO THEY START TO BUILD SCHOOLS, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE, AND THE CHILDCARE YEAH. STARTS TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO THEY'RE HERE IN, I THINK IT'S RIGHT. NOT FAR AFTER YOU GET OFF OF 66, YOU'RE GOING NORTH. AND I THINK IT'S RIGHT BEFORE THEIR PROPERTY IS THE BRIDGE. IF, HOW DOES THAT USUALLY WORK? IF WESTMINSTER'S NEED IS NEEDED TO BE EXPANDED, SAY TO FOUR LANES, DOES THE BRIDGE, DOES A NEW BRIDGE COME IN OR DOES IT COME USUALLY COME DOWN AND THEN OPEN BACK UP IF THEY WERE WIDENING THE ROAD? UM, IF IT'S NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WOULDN'T WIDEN THE BRIDGE. I KNOW THAT BRIDGE IS I HAVE TO GO LOOK TO SEE WHO OWNS WHAT IN THAT AREA BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ARCADIA. SO I BELIEVE THAT BRIDGE HAS BEEN, UM, INHERITED FROM OKLAHOMA COUNTY. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY LINE, THEY'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THE BRIDGE RATINGS ON THAT TALKED TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER ABOUT THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO. OKAY. SO IN THE FUTURE, IF IT NEED TO BE WIDEN, THERE'D HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF PROBABLY COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ENTITIES. OKAY. TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BEING EDMOND, OKLAHOMA COUNTY AND ARCADIA. VERY, VERY POSSIBLY YES. OKAY. BUT IT IS POSSIBLE TO, TO WIDEN IT IN THE FUTURE. YES. THAT ONE WOULD PROBABLY BE REMOVED AND REPLACED. IT'S IT'S OLD. OLDER. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. [01:30:03] NOW, REFRESH MEMORY MEMORY. THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS HERE. VARIANCE, VARIANCE, VARI VARIANCES. ONE'S PUSHING THE STREET DOWN AND THEN ACCESS ONE THROUGH THE NORTH. WELL, THE, THOSE AREN'T ACTUALLY VARIANCES. THAT'S WHAT THEY AGREED TO AT THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING AS A RESULT OF THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING WAS TO PUSH THE DRIVE AS FAR SOUTH AS THEY CAN, BUT THAT WAS GONNA INVOLVE SWAB, GETTING INVOLVED STORM WATER BOARD, GETTING INVOLVED. AND, AND IF STORM WATER COMES BACK AND SAYS, YEAH, OR A DEPENDS, RIGHT. DEPENDS TOTALLY ON THEIR APPROVALS IN THE ENGINEERING. ONCE I GET THE SITE PLAN AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT FOR A CONNECTION UP TO THE NORTH, UH, DELAYING THAT UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT FIRE CODE REQUIRES IT, MEANING THAT THEY'VE REACHED A CERTAIN POINT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEN THEY DO THAT, PUSH IT ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST AS FAR AS THEY CAN. OKAY. SO THIS ONE'S GONNA TAKE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION SWABS, GONNA HAVE TO PUT IT ON THEIR AGENDA. RIGHT. AS THEY COME THROUGH, AS FOR SITE FIND APPROVAL, IT WILL LIKELY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SWAB MM-HMM AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSIONER HERE. OF COURSE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? I ON BEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE HERE? WE'RE HERE, SIR. COME ON DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. TELL US WHO YOU ARE. GOOD UNION COUNCIL. I'M CURTIS HUFF. I'M A LANDOWNER ADJACENT LANDOWNER TO THE NORTH. UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP DURING THE, THE PRE-PLANNING MEETING WAS ABOUT THAT, UH, ACCESS ROAD TO THE NORTH. UH, WAS THERE ANY DEFINITION ON WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THAT REQUIREMENT IN THE FUTURE? WAS IT DECIS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR ANY, ANY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DEFINITION ON WHEN THAT MIGHT TRIGGER QUESTION WOULD COME TO STAFF HERE? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT THERE'S A POINT IN TIME IN THE FIRE CODE WHEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND ENTRANCE REQUIRED AND THE ONLY PLACE THEY CAN REALLY GET IT IS TO GO NORTH. SO AT THAT POINT THEY WOULD'VE TO COME IN AND DO THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE A PART OF A SITE PLAN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE MM-HMM . SO THERE WOULD BE NOTICE AND OUT TO PEOPLE SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW THAT IT, IT WAS HAPPENING. RIGHT. SO MAYBE LATER ON WHEN IT GO, AS THE APPLICANT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE COULD HAVE FIRE THERE OR SOMEONE ELSE GET THAT EXACT NUMBER. SO WE CAN, WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? COME ON DOWN. MA'AM INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US TONIGHT. HI, I'M RACHEL JACKSON AND I OWN THE PROPERTY JUST NORTH OF THAT YELLOW LINE THERE. SO PART OF THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING WAS TO MOVE THAT ROAD AS FAR SOUTH AS POSSIBLE. IF THAT DOESN'T PASS WITH THE STORM WATER AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS? CUZ I THINK THE ALTERNATIVES TO HAVE THE MAIN ROAD AND THE ONLY ROAD INTO THE CHURCH RIGHT NEXT TO OUR ROAD, OUR ENTRANCE. DO THEY HAVE AN OPTION ON WESTMINSTER AT ALL? YES, THAT'S GONNA BE SO RIGHT NOW THE ONE ENTRANCE IS ON WHAT FROM WESTMINSTER. RIGHT. AND SO THEY WERE GONNA PUSH THAT ROAD FURTHER SOUTH SO THAT DOESN'T BUTT UP DIRECTLY TO OUR ENTRANCE. SO IF THAT DOESN'T PASS SORT OF WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS THEN? YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. UM, SO GREG, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. OH I'M I APOLOGIZE. RAY STRAUSS, PASTOR FOR EDMOND COMMUNITY CHURCH. AND DO I, DO YOU NEED MY ADDRESS? YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, SO AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THAT LITTLE ISLAND PORTION OF PROPERTY, UH, THIS IS THE, THIS IS ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THE FLOOD PLAIN ACTUALLY HAS BEEN MOVING FURTHER SOUTH. SO THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE IS, UM, THE SHALLOWEST AND THIS PORTION IS OUT OF THE FLOOD PLANE. UM, BUT THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN MOVING SOUTH FURTHER. AND SO EVEN AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE ABILITY, EXCUSE ME TO BUILD THAT. SO IT IS NOT CONTINUOUS, UM, WITH MISS JACKSON'S PROPERTY, IT COULD BE MOVED FURTHER SOUTH AND IF THE CITY, UH, AND SWAB, UH, FIND IT PRUDENT AND PERMISSIBLE, AND WE'RE WILLING TO GO AS FAR SOUTH AS WE NEED TO MINDFUL OF THE SAFETY FOR, FOR FOLKS WITH THE BRIDGE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT YOU ALLUDED TO. UM, BUT THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF SPACE WORKING WITHIN THAT AREA AND WE WILL, UM, STRIVE TO MOVE IT AS FAR SOUTH, UM, AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON, ON, ON THEIR, THEIR COUNCIL AND DEVICE. I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES MM-HMM THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, SO AND NO, AND NO PORTION OF IT IS GOING TO BE, UM, CONTINUOUS WITH THEIR PROPERTY OR EVEN ABUTTING IT. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY. COME ON ON. [01:35:01] UM, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS I THINK IN THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING, WE ALSO AGREED TO, FOR THE CHURCH TO MOVE ITSELF, TO MOVE FURTHER SOUTH. UM, AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED ORIGINALLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS STILL PART OF THE, UM, BEAUTY OR IF THAT HAS CHANGED. HE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU. THANK YOU, RANDY. MAY I BORROW YOUR PEN AGAIN? YOU BE, UH, SO AGAIN, UM, THIS IS A PART OF A MULTI-FACED DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE, WE ARE ACTUALLY A SMALL CHURCH. WE'RE ABOUT A HUNDRED FOLKS. WE'RE FOUR YEARS OLD THIS MONTH. AND UM, UM, SO OUR INITIAL PHASE IS TO BUILD A MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY THAT GETS US OUT OF RENTING AT THE EDMOND COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING QUITE A BIT, UM, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO OUR OWN PLACE. SO OUR FIRST PHASE WOULD ALLOW US TO GET INTO HERE AND START OUR THING, OUR, OUR PROCESS, WE, UH, AMENDED OUR PLANS TO MOVE FROM RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT'S ON THIS ELEVATED PLANE AND NEAR THE RESIDENCE. AND THIS IS A HILL SLOPING HILL. AND SO WE AGREED TO MOVE IT FURTHER SOUTH TO WHERE IT WOULD NOT ONLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND TREES, BUT THE ELEVATION WOULD MOVE US FURTHER SOUTH. IT, WE, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE, JUST RIGHT WHERE THAT FLOOD PLANE IS, CUZ THAT'S STILL UNDERSTUDY AND IT'S STILL MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AND MOVE OUR PARKING DOWN TO THE, YOU KNOW, INTO THAT AREA AS PERMISSIBLE AND, AND MOVE ALL OF OUR INITIAL PHASED, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT THERE AS WELL AS OUR, OUR, OUR PERMANENT BUILDING THAT WE DO HAVE AT SUCH A TIME, WE GROW, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE THAT WE'LL MOVE THAT FURTHER DOWN SO THAT THE VIEW IS, AND THE ELEVATION REALLY COMES INTO PLAY IN A FAVORABLE WAY FOR THE RESIDENTS. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? YES, SIR. COME ON DOWN, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US THIS EVENING. UH, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR. I HAVE PATRICK PATTERSON, ALSO A RESIDENT OF, UH, WHAT USED TO BE KNOWN AS DANFORTH HILLS THERE TO THE NORTH. UM, THANK YOU. UH, WE TALKED EARLIER AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THAT BRIDGE. I DID NOT KNOW WHO OWNED THAT BRIDGE, SO I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UH, BRINGING THAT UP. UH, MY OTHER, UH, OTHER CONCERN ABOUT THAT WAS THE, THE WATER SITUATION. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AS FAR AS LIKE WASTE WATER AND, UH, DRINKING WATER, WHATEVER USAGE FOR THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE NORTH WITH THAT NEW PIPELINE THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN OR THAT NEW WATER MAIN, I ASSUME I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE PROCESS CUZ IF WE RUN WATER FROM THAT, UH, TO THE CHURCH THAT'S AM I GETTING A NEW DRIVEWAY OUT OF THAT? I'M JUST, JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THAT, HOW DISRUPTIVE THAT PROCESS WOULD BE. SORRY. I'M NOT TRYING TO, TRYING TO STAND UP HERE AND ASK JOKE OR WERE THEY WORE THAT THE WE'D SEE WHAT THEIR, WHERE THEIR SITE PLAN COMES IN ON WHICH SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT COULD COME ON RIGHT EAST OR WEST, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S SERVING OUR KATY HERE RIGHT NOW. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, PART OF IT, DAN FOR COMES ARCADIA WHEN YOU START DRIFTING SOUTH RIGHT THERE. SO I KNOW YOU LET HIM, YOU LET HIM, YOU LET 'EM BOAR WATER LINE, BUT NOT, NOT SEWER. CORRECT. UH, WE'LL LET THEM, WE'LL LOOK AT BOTH. OKAY. UH, TO BE AS, UH, LEAST INTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. UM, AND AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AS WE MOVE WITH THE FINAL PLANT AND THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY BARTS AND PIPES AND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE AVOIDED AS WELL AS WELL. MAYBE OTHER GAS LINES, I THINGS WELL, SO ALL THAT WILL COME INTO PLACE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FINAL PLANES. SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS ON THAT IF THEY ARE, IF THEY DO REMOVE DRIVEWAY, UH, IF THEY PUT BACK, THEY'LL PUT BACK, UM, WHAT'S THERE OR BETTER, RIGHT? ROGER, THAT I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. UH, AND THEN ALSO ON THE, ON THE, UM, I GUESS ON THE SEWAGE REMOVAL, WE TALKED, YOU SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE PUMPED TO SOUTH, IS THAT CORRECT? ALSO, I GUESS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AS FAR AS DISTURBANCE TO NO. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS FROM ARCADIA, IT'S BEING PUMPED BACK TO, TO OUR TREATMENT PLAN AT, UH, BUT IT'S TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON ON THIS SITE. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT. UH, RIGHT. THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO SEWER, SO THEY MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ONSITE DISPOSAL. RIGHT. AND WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT AGAIN. WE GET THEIR SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS MM-HMM USAGES. ALL THOSE WILL BE REVIEWING THAT WITH THEM, WHICH HE'S, I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE GOT AEROBIC AT AEROBIC OR I DO LATERAL THAT YOURS WOULD BE IF, IF THEY DON'T TIE IN TO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN PLACE THEN THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD BE DOING FIGURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK. ROGER THAT. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. AND THE TREE PRESERVATION THING, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT? SO THIS IS TECHNICALLY A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY FALL UNDER THE COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPING, UH, ORDINANCE HERE WITH THE CITY. SO THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING BACK. THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY, UH, UH, DON'T HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE TREE PRESERVATION. UH, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT LEFT THERE DUE TO THE FARMING THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT THEY WOULD TO PROVIDE 10% OF THE SITE AS LANDSCAPING. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY, COOL. MM-HMM THANK [01:40:01] YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE COUNCIL? A LOT OF THIS GOOD DISCUSSION, THERES, UM, EXPANSION NORTH. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS APPLICATION? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION, WE'VE HAD A FEW CHURCHES LATELY. MM-HMM I REMEMBER IN, IN YOUR WARD, STACY AND TALKING, CONTINUING THAT MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR, TALKING ABOUT THE BEMS AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB HANDLING THAT AND, AND I'VE WATCHED THIS PROCESS AS IT'S GONE TO AND, AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING. AND SO THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EXAMPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT. AND, AND I KNOW I'M SURE YOU'RE PROUD OF IT. UM, AND, AND, AND WOULD DO, WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT, BUT WANTS TO, TO COMMEND YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCIL, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. ADAM HAS PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT [G. Case #PR13-00001 Public Hearing and Consideration of an extension to the Preliminary Plat for Thunder Canyon, located on the east side of Midwest Boulevard, south of Covell Road.] ITEM IS CASE NUMBER P 13 0 1 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN EXTENSION TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THUNDER CANYON LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF MIDWEST BOULEVARD BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF COVELL ROAD. OKAY. UH, AS YOU SAID, THE APPLICANT IS EXTENDING A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THUNDER CANYON. UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2013 AND THE FIRST PHASE WAS FINAL PLATTED IN 2014. UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLA HAD 194 LOTS ON 136 ACRES, UH, WAS 63 OF THE LOTS ON 31 ACRES ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED. AND THAT'S UP IN THE NORTH WEST CORNER. THAT PORTION RIGHT THERE. UH, THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF FLOOD PLANE THAT RUNS THE NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE SITE, BASICALLY RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE. UH, IT REQUIRES SOME SORT OF BRIDGE TO CONNECT THE TWO. UH, THE EXTENSION WAS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND AGREED TO BY THE DEVELOPERS SINCE THE PROJECT HAD BEEN DORMANT FOR A LITTLE BIT. UH, THE EXTENSION HAS SOME MINOR CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THE FIRE CODE, WHICH CHANGE, UH, IN THE INTERIM, BUT THE GENERAL LAYOUT LOT SIZES AND THE NUMBER OF LOTS REMAIN THE SAME. UH, THERE WERE CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE APPROVAL IN 2013 BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THOSE ONE. IS THAT A BRIDGE OR SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE BE, UH, COMPLETED BEFORE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES ON THE EAST SIDE? SO A BRIDGE WOULD BE SHOWN RIGHT THERE CONNECTING THE TWO. AND THEN THAT THE CONNECTION ON THE COVE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER, BE EXIT ONLY, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THE AUGUST 16TH MEETING. OKAY. COUNCIL, THANK YOU. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? NO, I MAY HAVE QUESTIONS, DEREK. ARE YOU GONNA TALK? I'LL WAIT. SAY IT AGAIN WHEN I CALL THE APPLICANT UP. OKAY. MM-HMM THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN. I THINK MY STUFF WILL BE ADDRESSED TO HIM PROBABLY. OH, NOT, WE CAN COME BACK TO STAFF TOO. WE OKAY. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. YEP. OKAY. ANY OTHER I GIVE, I CAN BRING IT OUT. UM, I HAVE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, FROM RESIDENTS AT RED BED AND YOU PROBABLY DID TOO ON THE THINGS THAT WERE AGREED TO PREVIOUSLY AND MAYBE THE FIRE MADE IT WHERE YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE THESE OR HAD TO CHANGE THESE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS IN, IN REFERENCE TO. AND, UM, THERE WAS A COMPROMISE TO REDUCE THE IMPACT WITH THE TRANSITION BY TURNING THE STREETS TO THE WEST, UM, AS SOON AS IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO SO. IS THAT MARRYING A BELL AND AS MANY CUL-DE-SAC IS POSSIBLE AGAINST RED BUD. UM, SO IS IT YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR STAFF? WELL, I'M NOT SURE. SO THE, THE STREET, I'M NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE. MM-HMM I WANT INFORMATION. THAT'S WHAT I'LL ASK. SO, AND SO I, I LOOKED TO THE ORIGINAL CITY COUNCIL MEMO, UH, MEMO, EXCUSE ME, MINUTES. AND HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? 2013. 2013. SO WHEN THAT WAS APPROVED, EXPLAINS WHY I KNOW NOT WHAT I'M TALKING RIGHT. WAS THAT RANDY? WAS THAT BEFORE APPENDIX D? YES. IT WAS PART OF THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. THAT'S GONNA ANSWER A LOT. I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA TALK A LOT ABOUT. SO AT THE TIME THAT PLA WAS APPROVED, THERE WERE, CUL-DE-SAC HERE SHOWN HERE, RIGHT? UH, SINCE THAT TIME APPENDIX D HAS BEEN APPROVED, CUL-DE-SAC ARE A LITTLE MORE, UH, AND THEY'RE HUGE, A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO PUT IN. YES. UH, AND OUR FIRE TRUCKS SHOULD BE. AND SO THEY SHOWED A KIND OF A CONNECTED STREET SYSTEM HERE TO HELP FIRE, TO MEET FIRE CODE. UH, THE STREET YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT NOW THE ONLY TWO CONDITIONS PLACED ON COUNCIL PLACED BY COUNCIL AT THE TIME WAS EXIT ONLY THERE CONNECTION HERE [01:45:01] BEFORE ANY HOMES HERE. SO THOSE WERE APPARENTLY THINGS THAT WERE AGREED TO AT THE TIME BY DEREK AND YOUR GUYS IN ORDER TO SATISFY THEM. APPARENTLY. YEAH. THE CODES CHANGED. YOU HAVE A PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, PREVIOUS DEVELOPER WASN'T AND A, AND A SIGNIFICANT CODE CHANGE TO, TO STREET LAYOUT. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A, I WAS TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER, BUT WE HAVE A CODE CHANGE IN. WELL, AND, AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEW APPLICATION, CORRECT. MM-HMM MM-HMM, IT'S, IT'S AN EXTENSION IS CONTINUE. IT'S AN EXTENT WITH AMENDMENTS, WITH SOME CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE NEW FIRE CODE. YEAH. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT THE CHANGES AREN'T BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO THE CHANGES THE CHANGES ARE TAKEN ABOUT BECAUSE OF STUFF THAT WE'VE, WE'VE ENFORCED. YEAH. WE'VE ENFORCED THAT'S SUCKS. BUT DEREK, I THINK YOU MAY MENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD A MEETING WITH A, I ALSO HAD HAD A MEETING WITH A PROPERTY OWNER UP THERE IN RED BUD WITH THE, THE EXIT ONLY STREET. AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, TALKED ABOUT THERE AND, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY, I THINK YOU'LL SHARE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. I THINK MR. APPLICANT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR YOU. HELP US OUT HERE. THANK YOU. I WAS WONDERING, SO I'M DEREK TURNER RETURNING COMPANY, AND I REPRESENT THE, UH, APPLICANT, UH, SDK DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROJECT. AND YES, WE ARE THE SECOND OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY. UH, WE PURCHASED IT ABOUT OH SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS AGO. SO RANDY MA ARE YOUR, YOUR CLICKER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, YES, THE, THE, THE DETAILS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE, WE MADE A, WE MADE A FEW THINGS THAT WE WERE PRIMARILY IS THIS STREET AND THESE STREETS RIGHT HERE WERE ORIGINALLY CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS THAT, THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE FIRE ACCESS FROM HERE. ALL, ALL THOSE CUL-DE-SACS. SO EVERY ONE, ONE OF THOSE HOMES WERE ONTO THIS STREET, RIGHT THERE, AS THE CUL, AS FOR THE FIRE CODE, IT WASN'T AS MUCH THE SIZE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC. IT WAS THAT THERE WAS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE ENTRY INTO THAT AREA. SO WHEN OUR CUL-DE-SAC DISTANCE REDUCED DOWN, THAT'S AS FAR AS WE COULD HAVE A, A STREET WITH A CUL-DE-SAC ON IT. SO WE INCREASED THE SIZE OF THIS CUL-DE-SAC AND THEN WE TOOK THESE AND WE SQUARED THEM OFF AND RAN THOSE LINES BACK THROUGH HERE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. CAN, CAN YOU BLOW THAT UP JUST SLIGHTLY? DOES IT INCREASE IN SIZE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE, AND THIS WAS AS A REQUEST AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE TOOK THE BACK PART OF ALL THIS LAND. ORIGINALLY THESE HOUSES, THESE LOTS WERE BACKED RIGHT UP TO THESE PROPERTY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS AS MUCH TREE GROWTH LEFT THERE AS WE COULD. SO WE ACTUALLY PULLED A 20 FOOT BUFFER ALL THE WAY THROUGH HERE, DOWN, AND THEN TOOK THIS PART, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY LOTS. AND WE TOOK THAT OUT AND MADE IT, UH, COMMON AREA. SO THIS IS COMMON AREA AND ALL THIS UP THROUGH HERE'S COMMON AREA, IT'S 20 FEET WIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THERE. WE WILL PUT THE SEWER LINE INSIDE THE LOT LINE. SO WE WON'T HAVE TO TAKE THOSE TREES DOWN WITHIN THAT 20 FOOT AREA TO TRY TO MITIGATE ANY, UH, UH, APPROACH TO THAT. IF YOU PULL THE SCREEN DOWN JUST SLIGHTLY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, KEEP GOING A LITTLE FURTHER. THERE WE GO. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE TOOK THIS AREA HERE. THERE'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER RIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE HAD AN EASEMENT. THERE'S ACTUALLY AN EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE, TO THE STREET. UH, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE EASEMENT THAT ACTUALLY EASEMENT IS USED AT, AT COVELL ROAD. WE WILL BE UTILIZING IT FOR A WATER LINE THAT WE'RE GONNA RUN AND CONNECT TO BE ABLE TO LOOP WATER. WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONNECT WATER TO COVE AND BACK OUT TO MIDWEST BOULEVARD, BOTH SIDES. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOP THE WATER. WE DID LEAVE THIS HERE. AND I WAS ABLE TO TURN THESE HOMES IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, THESE ARE SOME VERY NICE HOMES IN HERE. THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WAS THE PRIMARY. THEY WERE AS CLOSE TO THE BACK LINE AS ANYBODY WAS. AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAYED BACK AWAY FROM THAT THE BEST WE COULD. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THE STREET COMING IN THIS WAY. IF YOU MOVE ON UP JUST SLIGHTLY, WE ALSO DID THE SAME THING ON THE TOP EDGE. THERE'S A GAS LINE OR GAS. THERE'S A, A GAS LINE AND A SEWER LINE THAT COMES THROUGH HERE AND THROUGH HERE. AND THERE'S AN EASEMENT UP THERE THAT WE'VE LEFT OUT THAT BUFFERS BETWEEN THERE, BUT WITHIN THE EASEMENTS, A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN TAKE THE, THE, THE OPERATOR OF THE UTILITY OF THE SENATE EASEMENT WILL COME THROUGH AND TRIM THE TREES OR TAKE 'EM DOWN TO ALTOGETHER. SO WE LEFT ANOTHER 20 FOOT. WE HAD ENOUGH DEPTH THAT WE PULLED ANOTHER 20 FOOT OF AREA THAT WE COULD KEEP THE TREES AND NOT HAVE TO TAKE THOSE DOWN, GOING ALL THE WAY TO THAT EASEMENT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THAT OUT THERE. AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A SEWER LINE MARKED IN THE BACK OF IT. WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE THOSE SEWER LINES TO THE FRONT WHEN WE GET [01:50:01] TO THE FINAL PLAT. AND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO MOVE THOSE SEWER LINES TO THE FRONT WHENEVER POSSIBLE. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE COMPLICATED WHEN YOU GET IN THESE TIGHT LITTLE AREAS. SO SOME AREAS WE CAN DO IT IN SOME AREAS WE CAN'T, BUT IF WE CAN PULL THE STIR TO THE FRONT, THAT'S THE GOAL. UH, I HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. UM, AND I KNOW YOU'LL TRY FOR IT NOT TO, BUT IF SOME REASON THOSE A 20 FOOT AREA GETS CLEARED BY ACCIDENT, WOULD, WOULD YOU PLANT BACK? WE WOULD PLANT BACK, BUT THEY WON'T GET CLEARED BY ACCIDENT. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE ROPED OFF AND MARKED OFF. OKAY. SO, UM, WE, WE DID, IF YOU'LL COME DOWN THIS CORNER REAL QUICK TOO, WE ALSO DID THE SAME THING ON THIS AREA HERE. INSTEAD OF CARRYING THESE LOTS, ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO EACH OTHER, WE TOOK THIS AREA OUT AND MADE IT, UH, A AREA THAT WE CAN PRESERVE THE TREES, CUZ WE WANT THOSE TAKEN CARE OF TOO, TOO. YEAH. SO WE CAN KEEP THOSE IN THAT AREA HERE AND MAKE THAT WORK HERE. UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME REAL SLOPE ISSUES HERE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND ORIGINALLY THEY HAD THIS PLANNED TO HAVE THE SEWER LINE UP HERE AND THEY WERE GONNA BACKFILL ALL OF THESE LOTS. THEY WERE GONNA TAKE DOWN ALL THE TREES AND BACKFILL, ALL THOSE LOTS WITH ABOUT A 15 FOOT RETAINING WALL ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT. WE ARE NOT GONNA DO THAT. WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THOSE WITH WALKOUTS. AND SO WE COULD PRESERVE AS MANY OF THE TREES AS POSSIBLE. THE ONLY THING WE HAD TO DO THERE IS WE HAD TO DOUBLE UP THE SEWER LINE AND WE'LL PUT THE SEWER LINE IN THE BACK, BUT THERE'S A MAIN SEWER LINE THAT COMES THROUGH HERE. SO WE CAN DO THAT. IF YOU'LL GO TO THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE TOP WHERE THE STREET GOES OUT ON COVE. AND IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON IT A LITTLE BIT, THIS WILL BE A EXIT ONLY. UH, WE DO HAVE A GATE ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN EXIT ONLY WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A GATE AND CATCH FIRE DEPARTMENT. KEN NEEDS TO COME IN. THERE WILL BE A KNOCK BOX ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT THAT THEY COULD GET IN TO COME IN THAT DIRECTION. THEY WILL GO OUT. THEY'LL ONLY BE A RIGHT TURN, THE LEFT TURN. THERE'S NO, IT'LL BE VERY NARROW THERE AT THE, AT THAT DRIVE ENTRY, WE DO HAVE, UH, A WATER LINE THAT RUNS UP ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. ON THIS SIDE. THE STREET IS SLIGHTLY OFFSET, BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE PREPARED TO EITHER FENCE OR LANDSCAPE, WHATEVER IS NEEDED IN THOSE AREAS. IT, WE HAVEN'T BEEN BACK IN THEIR PLOW THROUGH ALL THOSE TREES. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH AND FENCE AND TAKE TREES DOWN TO GET A FENCE UP. SO WE'LL WORK THROUGH TO SEE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PRESERVE CONTROL THAT AREA. THAT WE PLAN TO DO THAT ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THAT THERE. UH, AND THE SAME THING. IF YOU COME DOWN HERE, WHEN THESE LIGHTS SHINE INTO THIS AREA, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM IN THERE. WE, WE WILL LANDSCAPE AND CREATE A BUFFER THERE. SO THOSE TREES, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A, A LIGHT ISSUE COMING INTO THOSE HOMES. YEAH. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN OF THE, AND THEY KNOW EACH OTHER PRETTY WELL. IT WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE TO THE NORTH, THE FAR NORTH, UH, LOT THAT REALLY ALMOST COVERS THAT WHOLE STREET GOING OUT TO COVE AND, UH, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PEOPLE. AND THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE, WE'LL TAKE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THE LIGHT WE MET WITH THEM OBTAIN COMMISSION. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THEY WERE ASKING FOR. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, UP, UP TO THE CORNER OF THE STREET UP HERE, THERE IS ACTUALLY, IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, THERE, THERE IS ACTUALLY A, A GAS LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH HERE. IT COMES THROUGH THIS WAY AND THEN IT JOGS OVER, COMES OVER AND THEN COMES BACK THIS WAY. AND THEN IT GOES THIS WAY. UH, WE HAVE POTTED ALL THAT. WE KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS. IT'S NOT TERRIBLY DEEP THERE, BUT WE CAN'T ACCOMMODATE IT AND WORK WITH THAT GAS LINE THAT IS THERE. SO THEN WE'LL IT BACK OUT ON THE COVE, MAKE THAT AS, AS, UH, UNOBTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE. YEAH. IT'S PRETTY TIGHT QUARTERS IN THERE FOR A STREET. AND I KNOW IT WAS LEFT THAT WAY ON PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT, IN THAT EASEMENT THERE. SO ANYWAY, YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN DO IT, YOU HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UH, BUT I'M JUST SURE KNOW, THEY WOULD APPRECIATE AS, AS GOOD AS IT CAN LOOK AND AS MUCH AS MUCH PROTECTION THAT YOU CAN GIVE THEM WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'RE PAIRED ON THAT ONCE WE GET IN THERE. AND I KNOW YOU WANT IT TO LOOK NICE TOO, TREE CELL. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILS. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU FORGOT MORE THAN I'LL EVER KNOW ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND, BUT I'M WITH JOSH. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT RED BEN CANYON AND SOME OF THOSE, LIKE YOU SAID, REALLY THOSE AREAS ARE TAKEN CARE OF, AND I KNOW YOU'LL DO YOUR BEST. WELL, WE MET WITH THEM LAST TIME AND WE'LL BE WILLING TO KEEP GOING WITH THEM WHEN WE GO TO THE FINAL PLOT AND EVERYTHING. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, UH, JUSTIN SPARKS, I'M IN, UH, THUNDER CANYON AT 7,400. WE SPOKE LAST TIME. UM, WELL, ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, SIR. YOU'RE THE, OR ADDRESSED TO US AND OH, THEN THEY WILL. OKAY. QUESTIONS WERE THINGS LIKE KIND OF THE LAND OF BROKEN PROMISES ON THIS DEVELOPMENT [01:55:01] FROM, UH, DODSON BEFORE WHO WAS DELTA HELPING IT. SO WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT'S WORKING WITH US. UM, AND WE'RE, WE ARE CURIOUS, I GUESS IF I'M, IF, IF, IF IT'S JUST ADDRESSING, YEAH. I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M NOT WASTING YOUR TIME. IT WAS WHERE WAS THE POOL THAT WAS TO BE MOVED? THE LOTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED TO HOLD THE POOL OR NOT HOLDING THE POOL. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING THE LAKES MODE AREAS, WHERE THEY COULD BE USED COMMON PLAYGROUND AREAS. AND I WOULDN'T THINK THAT YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO ADDRESS THERE. SO LET ME TRY TO SET THE STAGE. SO THERE WERE SOME PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS WITH THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, CORRECT? SO NOW WE HAVE A NEW DEVELOPER. YES. SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE MADE WITH THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, THE CURRENT DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO CORRECT. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME AUXILIARY ONES THAT, SO, SO THERE, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LIST OF 10 THINGS THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO. AND THE, THE NEW DEVELOPERS ONLY AGREEING TO FIVE OF THEM. OKAY. YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER FIVE? YEAH. I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO ADDRESS THAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANKS MAN. BORROW YOUR I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET MY OWN TO THESE. THEY'RE PRETTY START CHARGING, RIGHT? MAYBE FOR CHRISTMAS, YOU COULD DO THIS. SO STOCKING STUFFERS, UM, ORIGINALLY THESE LOTS, THERE WAS A LOT HERE AND THEN THEY DECIDED TO GO HERE. THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT AREAS UP HERE THAT WERE COMMON AREA, THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT THE POOL IN. AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THEY WERE SOLD FOR HOUSES. AND SO THE DEVELOPER SOLD THOSE OFF. HE, WE DID LEAVE. THEY LEFT THIS LOT AVAILABLE FOR THAT. WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THAT LOT IS BIG ENOUGH TO PUT THE POOL COMPLEX ON IT MAY HAVE TO GO OVER HERE. WE'RE STILL STUDYING THAT, BUT WE WILL HAVE A POOL AND A PLAYGROUND AREA AND ALL THAT STUFF JUST LIKE WAS ORIGINALLY PROMISED TO THEM AND WHAT WOULD BE OUT THERE. SO WE DO HAVE THAT PLANNED IN HERE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE. IT'LL GO. AND SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE HERE OR HERE, BUT ONE OF THE TWO PHASES, IT WILL BE IN, IN THAT AREA, ALONG WITH THE PLAYGROUND AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? CAN I SAY THANK YOU ALL YOU WANT? YES. COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MIC NOW SAY THAT. SO I APPRECIATE IT. UM, IF I CAN BOTHER YOU ONE MORE TIME OR YEAH, JUST BOTHER MY, A PROXY. I'M I'VE I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT, UM, THE TRAFFIC I'M UM, CAN I BORROW THE LASER? OF COURSE. THANK YOU. IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE IN YOUR STALKING STUFF FOR, I APPRECIATE IT. SO WE ARE RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, AS WE SHOWED YOU LAST TIME, WE'RE RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER. SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF CONCERN FOR A SPEEDWAY. I KNOW HOW THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN HERE. 11 YEAR OLDS DRIVING, UH, RAZORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW. AND BECAUSE IT'S GATED, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT, BUT PEER PRESSURE ISN'T SOLVING THE PROBLEM. IT'S CONCERNED THAT WHEN WE GET THIS GOING ON YEARS TO COME, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT IS, BUT THEN KIND OF THIS GOING UP HERE FOR TRAFFIC, IF, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT. I APPRECIATE THAT. RUN YOUR BATTERY DOWN. UM, THAT'S THE OTHER CONCERN WITH THAT IS, IS, IS THAT TRAFFIC WHERE IT'S COMING ACROSS AND KIND OF THAT SPEED TUNNEL AS YOU'RE GONNA GO ACROSS A BRIDGE AND COMING UP THROUGH, AND YOU HAVE KIND OF ONE ENTRY TO THE WHOLE AREA. SO, UM, DO YOU MIND? NO, THANKS, SIR. AND I PROMISE I'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ENROLLMENT. UM, I I'M, WE'VE BEEN AWARE THAT THEY'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH, WITH SOME INAPPROPRIATE TRAFFIC THERE. UM, IT IS A PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A PRIVATE STREETS, UH, BUT THE HOA STILL HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTROL THAT TRAFFIC. AND THEY CAN SHUT THAT DOWN IF THEY WANT TO SHUT DOWN PEOPLE RUNNING THE GOLF CARTS AND RAZORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. MY OPINION IS, IS THEY NEED TO, WE WORK WITH THEM TO CONTROL THAT, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM. UH, WE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED REDOING ENTRANCE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ASSOCIATION. THEY HAD ONE THAT THEY WERE PAYING TO, BUT THEY WEREN'T GETTING ANY VOICE AND THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO ANYBODY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY. AND WE PUT TOGETHER ONE WHERE THEY NOW HAVE A VOICE AND WE'RE WORKING ON BOARD MEMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO PULL THAT TOGETHER. SO THEY DO HAVE SOME THINGS WITHIN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HANDLING THAT THROUGH THE ASSOCIATION. AND MAYBE ONCE THAT MATURES, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO FOR TRAFFIC, CALMING DEVICES, TABLES, AND SPEED BUMPS, AND THE AREA, THE AREA TO THE NORTH THERE TOO, WHERE THE LAKE, WHERE THE POND IS AND STUFF THAT WILL BE MADE MAINTAINED AND SO FORTH, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DO NOT OWN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND AROUND PHASE TWO, WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY, BUT IT'S JUST A IT'S, IT'S, [02:00:01] UH, JUST A FLOOD PLAN AND, UH, UH, INDIVIDUAL OWNS IT AND RUNS SOME CATTLE ON IT, BUT WE WILL MAINTAIN THE UPPER PART OF THAT. DEREK. I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, I WAS FIRST ON COUNCIL AND I, I THINK THAT FIRST PHASE WAS ALREADY DONE AND I GOT STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS PRETTY QUICK FROM, FROM SOME HOMEOWNERS IN THERE AND EROSION CONTROL ISSUES AND, AND SOME PROMISES UNKEPT. AND, AND I KNOW THAT'S A PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS DEVELOPER AND I'M, I'M HAPPY FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE GETTING. THEY'RE GETTING YOU TO, TO ENSURE THE LAW BEFORE LONG, LEARN YOUR CELL PHONE AND, UH, AND START TO REBUILD SOME TRUST. I THINK IT'S BEEN A GOOD DEAL TOO, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS STEPPED UP THEIR ENFORCEMENT YEAH. OF THE, OF THE OKAY. 10 PERMITS. YEAH. AND, AND THE THINGS THAT GO IN ALSO BEING A BUILDER THAT HAS BEEN STEPPED UP TREMENDOUSLY. AND, UH, EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES IT'S A PAIN ON US BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY CALLING US. BUT WHEN WE BRING THOSE IN AND BRING THOSE ISSUES UP WITH THE BUILDERS AND SO FORTH NOWADAYS, THE, THE, OKAY, 10 PERMITS ARE THE BUILDER'S RESPONSIBILITY ONCE THAT LOCK CLOSES. SO WHEN THEY'RE DOING THAT HOUSE AND THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT, THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL THOSE THINGS. WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE WOULD MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BUILDER WOULDN'T MAINTAIN ANY OF THE YARD. AND SO EVERYTHING WOULD COME DOWN IN THE STREET. NOW, AT LEAST THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY PART OF THAT TOO. WELL, I THINK A BIG PART OF IT'S JUST SOMEBODY THAT WILL LISTEN, ANSWER THE PHONE AND, AND LISTEN, AND, AND ATTEMPT TO, TO MAKE IT RIGHT. AND I, THEY WEREN'T GETTING THAT AT THAT TIME. AND, AND IT WAS, AND IT WAS A TOUGH SITUATION FOR, FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO ANYWAY, I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S A CHANCE HERE TO, TO MAKE THAT BETTER. AND, AND I KNOW YOU WILL. VERY GOOD. I'M SORRY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DON'T, DON'T JUST, DON'T BE BRING UP PROVO EITHER. OKAY. YOU OKAY? I DON'T WANT KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME TODAY. SO BYU, BAYLOR, I'M SORRY. OH, IT'S A LITTLE HILL SPORTS FIELD GOING ON. SORRY. DIDN'T KNOW YOU, SORRY. OH, NO, YOU JUST, YEAH. YOU JUST GOT THE, SURE. THIS IS THE PART WHERE I SAY THANKS. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO END. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TIME. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE YOUR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. WELL, YOU JUMPED UP, BUT HE RAISED HIS HAND. IT DIDN'T MATTER. GO AHEAD. COME ON. WE'RE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, MY NAME IS BILL WADE. I LIVE AT 78, 10 RED BUD CREEK DRIVE. UH, MY LOT'S THAT ONE RIGHT THERE BELOW THE, HERE WE GIVE HIM BACK. I DON'T NEED TO POINTER IT'S, UH, LOT SIX. UM, MY QUESTION IS A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. THE, UH, ORIGINAL PLAT PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL FOR THIS WAS APRIL 8TH, 2013. UM, IT WAS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBERED OR NOT. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, BUT I KNOW YOU WERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME. IT WAS APPROVED. UM, MY QUESTION PROCEDURALLY IS, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS CONDITIONAL, THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE AREA THAT THEY'RE NOW ASKING FOR. UM, AN EXTENSION TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, UM, ONLY PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED FOR, UM, PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION. HAVING SAID THAT THAT MEANT THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE DEVELOPMENT, NOTHING WAS DONE TO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS A PRELIMINARY PLAT IS ONLY VALID FOR TWO YEARS. UM, NO FURTHER ACTION REGARDING, UM, THE PLAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. UM, MR. DOTSON DID APPLY FOR A NEW PLAT IN 2015, WHICH WAS DENIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE HE WANTED TO OMIT THE BRIDGE, WHICH WAS A NON-STARTER FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WE APPLAUD THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THAT DECISION. UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONTENTION WITH REGARD TO THAT ROAD, AND I THINK YOU WOULD HEAR, UH, A LOT OF IT AND I HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IF THEY'RE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN IT IS BACK IN 2013, WE WENT TO A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING WITH, UM, THE DEVELOPER THAT TIME, MR. DODSON, IN AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO IRON OUT, UH, IRON IRON OUT OUR CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT YET WITH THE NEW DEVELOPER, UM, AND I THINK HE WOULD BE AMENABLE, UM, TO DO SO IF WE TOOK SOME TIME, TOOK A STEP BACK, WENT TO A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, MEETING, HUDDLED UP WITH THE DEVELOPER AND ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES AND TRY TO IRON OUT SOME OF THESE DISAGREEMENTS OR SOME OF THESE CONCERNS WE HAVE BEFORE BRINGING IT TO YOU GUYS FOR A DECISION, UM, BECAUSE WE COULD LITERALLY BE HERE WELL OVER, UM, AN HOUR AND A HALF. I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT WAS AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES OF THE CITY, COUNCIL'S TIME TO ADDRESS THIS DEVELOPMENT, JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO I'M TRYING TO HEAD THAT OFF. AND I THINK IF WE SIT DOWN WITH THE DEVELOPER AND ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES, WE CAN IRON OUT A LOT OF OUR DIFFERENCES AND MAYBE COME TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH A, A STRAIGHT LINE APPROVAL WITH, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND WITH ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, WAS THAT BROUGHT TO CITY TO, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ILL OF ANYBODY, BUT AT [02:05:01] THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE WERE KIND OF RUSHED OUT THE DOOR. UM, IT, IT JUST, IT, IT WASN'T. UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, AFTER ABOUT FOUR OF US GOT UP AND SPOKE, WE WERE TOLD ONLY TWO MORE PEOPLE GET TO SPEAK AND THEN THAT'S IT. UM, SO IT WASN'T A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING IN MY VIEW. UM, WE HAD MORE PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER OUTSIDE AFTER THE PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING THAN WE HAD INSIDE THIS ROOM. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR SPEAKING, I, I DON'T MEAN TO DO THAT. I DIDN'T COME HERE TO DO THAT. UM, BUT THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT. ALL RIGHT. UH, THANK YOU. UM, SO IS THERE ANY, YOU, YOU TALKING ABOUT PROCEDURAL THAT'S, ARE WE IN BOUNDS ON PROCEDURE AND WHERE LEGALITY AND ALL THAT? I MEAN, FROM, FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVED FOR THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IN 2013, THIS PART MAN FOR FINAL PLATING. AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE INTERIM. UH, THE PREVIOUS OWNER CAME IN AND TRIED TO CHANGE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FAILED, BUT THAT DID NOT TAKE THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT OUT OF BEING APPROVED. IT WAS STILL, THEY STILL HAD THOSE ENTITLEMENTS, UH, STAFF FELT, AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED THAT IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO EXTEND THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT BECAUSE IT HAD, THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY QUESTIONS WITH THE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT HAD BEEN MADE ON IT AND ALL THAT. SO THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT. THEY'RE BASICALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE ENTITLEMENTS. THEY WERE GIVEN BACK IN 2013 WITH SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS, UH, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T INCREASE THE LOT OR NUMBER OF LOTS. THEY WERE BY ORDINANCE MORE OR LESS STILL WELL WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS. AND THERE'S NOT AN EXPIRATION ON PRELIMINARY PLAT, NOT ONCE THEY START DEVELOPING AND BECAUSE THEY DID THAT FIRST PHASE AND GOT IT APPROVED, IT KIND OF STOPPED THE CLOCK. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO WOULD EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING APPROVED, APPROVED HERE BY PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERING THE NEW ORDINANCE WOULD ALL THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AT THE POINT? I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING, IS THERE ANY CHANGE THAT IF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, COULD WE ON THE EXTENSION? I, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S MAKES COMPLETE SENSE CUZ I'M NOT SURE. I , I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU, JUST, WHAT YOU EXPLAINED THERE. UM, THE EXTENSION WAS MADE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES THE, THE EXTENSION WAS MADE BECAUSE IN STAFF'S OPINION HAD BEEN, IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING AS TO WHAT HAD HAPPENED HERE BECAUSE OF THE INTERIM APPLICATIONS THAT FAILED AND THE FACT THAT IT HAD BEEN KIND OF DORMANT, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THAT FIRST BASE A LITTLE BIT, AND IT COULDN'T BE BUILT TO THE SPECS THAT WE HAD BECAUSE OF THE CUL-DE-SACS AND THE ROADS. RIGHT. AND THEN ONCE THEY CAME IN FOR THAT EXTENSION, THEN THE NEW FIRE CODE WAS APPLIED MORE OR LESS. OKAY. SO, AND AT THAT POINT, PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THAT IT WAS OKAY. THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THAT POINT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PLANNING PROCESS, CORRECT THEIR NEXT, IF APPROVED TONIGHT, THEIR NEXT STEP IS TO MOVE ON TO FINAL PLAT FOR THE NEXT PHASE. SO THERE'S NO ROOM THEN FOR ANYTHING TO BE CHANGED BASED ON WHAT HE'S, HE'S ASKING FOR, IS THAT CORRECT? HELP ME. I MEAN, THERE THERE'S ALWAYS, UH, SOME AMOUNT, WELL, THERE, THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY PLENTY OF ROOM, THE DETAIL THAT WE'RE GOING TO HERE, WE'RE ON A PRELIMINARY PLA THE DETAIL WE'RE GOING TO HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 FOOT EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT YOU RESERVE FOR FINAL PLANNING, BUT WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, JUST TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. IF WE NEED TO GO BEFORE WE DO THE FINAL PHASE, THAT FINAL PLAT HAVING COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS WITH THOSE PEOPLE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN DECIDE ALL THE, THE DETAILS SUCH AS DEFENSE AND THE LANDSCAPING AND ALL THOSE THINGS, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT. UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, IS PRIMARY PLAT. AND WE, I'VE PROBABLY GONE WAY FURTHER THAN YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE YOU HAVE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, THE ISSUES THAT WE, THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ADDRESS SO WELL, AND THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, CUZ IT'S BEEN AROUND SO LONG AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DETAILS AND, AND THEY'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO IT. AND SO AM I AT THIS POINT? MM-HMM YEAH. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE. I, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. ARE THERE ANY VARI, DID YOU SAY ANY VARIANCES WITH THIS? I DID NOT. NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE NO. SO THERE, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THEIR RIGHTS ARE IN PLACE FROM, FROM THE, FROM AFTER CONSTRUCTION BEGAN ON DEVELOPMENT ON THAT IT MEETS CODE COMPLETELY AT, AT [02:10:01] THIS POINT WITH NO VARIANCES AND, AND THEY AGREED WITH STAFF THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT MUCH TIME GAP, THAT IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD TO COME BACK AND RE AND BASICALLY REINTRODUCE THE PROJECT AND, AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME, SOMETHING THAT'S BEING THE CODE DID CHANGE ON THE STREETS AND THE CUL-DE-SACS AND, AND THAT I'VE SEEN THE OTHER PLAN AND, AND IT WOULDN'T WORK, PERIOD. IT, IT WOULDN'T WORK IN TODAY'S CODE. AND SO I, THEY DID THE BEST THEY COULD TO GRID IT IN THAT AREA. AND, AND THEY MADE IT WORK. WHAT THEY INTRODUCED WAS THE, WAS THE 20 FEET, 20 FOOT BUFFER AND TREE PRESERVATION ON THERE, WHICH SINCE IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN, DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT IF THEY HAD TO START OVER, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE NEW TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND DOESN'T, BUT THEY, THEY VOLUNTEERED THE BUFFER. SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM. THEY MEET CODE. THERE'S NO VARIANCES. THEY'RE INTRODUCING SOME NICE CHANGES. THEY'RE THEY'RE TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE WE GO FROM THERE. WELL, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT WE CAN SOUND LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING ON, BUT ALSO THE APPLICANT DID SAY THEY WERE WILLING BETWEEN NOW AND FINAL MM-HMM TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING THAT WAS MENTIONED HERE. RIGHT. MM-HMM SO WHEN I PROCEED WITH THAT, LET, TO HAVE, LET THAT COMMUNICATION THAT'S HAPPENING, CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. MM-HMM SURE. YEAH. AND, UM, LET IT GO FROM THERE. MM-HMM YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO, TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE PROBLEM WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON TODAY IS THEY'RE GOING ON SEPARATE OF EACH OTHER. UM, SOME RED BUD CANYON RESIDENTS HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS. SOME FOLKS ON CREEK VIEW HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS. SOME FOLKS IN THUNDER CANYON HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME, NOT IN THE SAME ROOM, NOT WHERE ALL OF THESE CONCERNS CAN BE BROUGHT OUT IN A COMMON FORUM BECAUSE SOME THINGS THAT THE FOLKS IN THUNDER CANYON MAY WANT MAY NOT BE THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN RED BUD CANYON WANT OR FOLKS ON, IN CREEKVIEW WANT. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, TALKING TO, UH, MY NEIGHBORS, UM, EVEN AS AN EXIT, ONLY THAT STREET IS, IS A STRONG POINT OF CONTENTION THAT REQUIRES DISCUSSION BY ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES IN MY VIEW. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING RIGHT NOW IS, IS, IS HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATION NOW TO TRY TO HERD ALL THE CATS INTO ONE ROOM THAT MIGHT NOT BE, WE CAN'T DIRECT THAT UP HERE, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH AS MANY PEOPLE. I, I CAN'T, MAYBE THEY'RE WILLING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY, WHAT MY OTHER NEIGHBORS MIGHT WANT, BUT THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO GET TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM AND TRY TO, UM, COME TO SOME TYPE OF CONSENSUS ON WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO HAVE THAT, UH, COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING. IF THEY A MEETING'S CALLED IT'S UP TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'LL BE NOTIFIED, THEY'RE BEING, YOU ALL TALK AMONG THEMSELVES AND, AND THAT IT'S HAPPENING AND YOU ALL SHOW UP. OKAY. WELL, AND, AND I'M GOOD. GOOD WITH THAT. I JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOMEBODY THAT SET THAT UP, SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO THE INTERESTED PARTIES AND, AND WE SHOWED UP. NOW, IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IF WE WANT TO DO IT, WE GOTTA DO IT OURSELVES. NO. AM I HEARING YOU A COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING IS SET UP THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE CITY. OKAY. YES, SIR. COME ON, COME ON DOWN, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. MY NAME IS GARY COURTNEY. I LIVE AT 7 9 0 2 RED BUD CREEK. AND, UM, I'LL BE REAL SIMPLE. AND, AND TO THE POINT, I KNOW SOME OTHER PEOPLE MAY WANNA SPEAK THE, I WAS, I WAS HERE IN 2013 AND WHEN THIS WHOLE THING STARTED AND THE AREA BETWEEN MIDWEST GOING EAST TO DOUGLAS, LOOKED A LOT DIFFERENT, THEN A LOT MORE TREES, A LOT LESS PEOPLE. IF YOU'LL DRIVE THAT UP, UP AND DOWN COVE THESE DAYS, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF HOUSES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY USED TO BE FARMS AND FIELDS, BUT IT'S NOT ANYMORE. SO MY QUESTION TO THE CINDY PLANNERS, OR JUST YOU GUYS IS FIND OUT IN THAT LAST, THESE LAST NINE YEARS, HOW MANY FAMILIES HAVE MOVED INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR THEY'RE GONNA BE USING COVE AND THEN THINK ABOUT THE DOZEN OR SO HOUSES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MIDWEST TOWARD RED [02:15:01] BUD CANYON THAT ARE ON THE STREET. AND THEN THINK ABOUT THIS EGRESS AND LOOK ACROSS THE STREET TO THAT DEVELOPMENT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT ON COVE. AND THEN LOOK AT THE GARBAGE TRUCKS. THE BICYCLIST LOOK AT THE UPS DRIVERS, THE PRIME DELIVERY DRIVERS WHO CAN'T PULL IN PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS AND THEY HAVE TO PARK THEIR TRUCKS ON THE STREETS AND STOP TRAFFIC AND COVE IS A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE. SO YOU YOU'RE REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO PASS, BUT MORE AND MORE WITH MORE PEOPLE. I'M SEEING PEOPLE GO AROUND TRUCKS, EVEN ON THE HILL AND IT'S DANGEROUS. AND THIS IS GONNA GET MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE THE AREAS CHANGED SO MUCH, BUT COVELL HADN'T CHANGED A BIT. IT'S STILL A TWO LANE ROAD. AND IF YOU GUYS, IF MR. TURNER WANTS TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK THAT'S SWELL. IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILD A WHOLE NEW PRESERVE, THAT'S GOING IN ON COVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT THE THING IS, WAIT TILL COVE IS WIDENED AND CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE. FIRST, BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE DANGEROUS IF THERE'S GONNA BE ACCIDENTS PEOPLE, AREN'T GONNA GET TIRED OF WAITING FOR THE SCHOOL BUS, THE RED LIGHTS TO GO OFF. AND THEN THE YELLOW LIGHTS COME ON AND THEY GOTTA GET TO WORK. BUT THERE'S MORE PEOPLE COMING DOWN THE ROAD, BAD THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN UNLESS COVELL CAN HANDLE THE INFLOW OF PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THANK VERY MUCH, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? YES. MA'AM PLEASE COME DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HI, I'M KATHY CLARK FLECK AND I LIVE AT 78 0 1 RED BUD CREEK DRIVE. UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE LAST TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY MET WITH A, UM, BOARD HERE. UH, FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS AGREED UPON THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PHASES WOULD NOT BE TOUCHED UNTIL THE BRIDGE WAS BUILT. AND I HOPE THAT STILL STAYS IN, IN EFFECT. UM, THE BUILDER WENT THROUGH THERE AND HE CLEARED A LOT OF THE TREES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE TURNER AND, AND THE FRANKLINS AND THE WASHES THAT WE ARE ON THAT COVE EXIT ROAD. AND WE ARE THE MOST IMPACTED. WE HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING WITH THEM YET AT THE LAST MEETING IN 2013, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS EXIT ROAD, I HAD ASKED TO SEE AN ELEVATION DRAWING FROM THE BUILDER. MY PROPERTY SITS UP TWO FEET HIGHER THAN THE DEVELOPERS, AND THEN IT DROPS SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN TO THE FRANKLINS. AND THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE, THE MAYOR HAD SAID, THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A TUNNEL. I WANNA SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE TOO. AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IS CONCERNED. THERE'S DRAINAGE COVE DOES FLOOD WHEN IT RAINS HEAVY. THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY I BELIEVE ON COVE IT'S AND HE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. IT FLOODS CONSTANTLY. SO ALL THE WATER RUN OFF FROM THAT EXIT ROAD IS JUST GONNA GO RIGHT DOWN COVE AND IT'S GONNA IMPACT IT. WE HAVE TO WATCH HOW WE DRIVE IN THE MORNING WHENEVER IT DOES RAIN, BECAUSE IT DOES FLOOD DOWN IN THAT AREA. LIKE GARY SAID, UM, IT, IT IS A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC. THERE'S ONLY STOP SIGNS THERE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU GO TO THE STOP SIGN BETWEEN COVELL AND ON, UH, AIR DEPOT, IT IS BACKED UP TO THE CHILDCARE UNIT EVERY MORNING BETWEEN SEVEN AND AND EIGHT O'CLOCK. SO THERE'S NO LIGHTS THERE, AND TRAFFIC IS JUST GETTING REALLY BAD, BUT LIKE I SAID, I WOULD WELCOME A MEETING WITH THEM BEFORE YOU PROVE THAT EXIT ROAD GOING OUT. AND THAT WAS ANOTHER THING I BELIEVE IN THE NOTES THAT THAT EXIT ROAD WOULD NOT BE BUILT UN UNTIL THE BRIDGE WAS DONE. AND THE OTHER PHASES SOUTH OF THAT WERE, WERE COMPLETED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. GOOD EVENING. I'M ALAN FRANKLIN. I'M IN LOT. I'VE GOT THE PROPERTY LOT 25 THERE CREEKVIEW. SO I'M THE ONE THAT, UH, IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT ROAD THAT REACHES COVELL, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE FROM REDBUD. SO JUST WANTED TO THROW IN AND, UH, SAY I VERY INTERESTED IN, UH, WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES FROM THE TRAFFIC THAT, UH, MAY BE FLOWING DOWN THERE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ANYONE ELSE COUNCIL ABOUT [02:20:01] A DISCUSSION AUTO MOVING PARTS, AON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? UH, WE HAVE STARTED, UH, WE HAVE STARTED, I, WE SENT, WE HAVE STARTED ALREADY DOING A STUDY OF THAT ONCE AGAIN, THE EXACT ELEVATION STUDIES AND SO FORTH GENERALLY COMES IN THE FINAL PLOT PROCESS. IT DOESN'T COME IN THE PRELIMINARY PLOT PROCESS, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT AND STARTED PLOTTING OR PLOTTING WHERE ALL THE, ALL THE, ALL THE UTILITY LINES ARE AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO WE CAN MOVE THAT DOWN TO DOWN THROUGH THERE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM AND WHATEVER WORKS BEST, WHETHER IT'S LANDSCAPING, WHETHER IT'S FENCING, WHETHER IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR 'EM DOWN THROUGH THERE. BUT WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED ADDRESSING THE ACCESS POINT GOING OUT AND THE, UH, AND THE COVER THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE OVER THE GAS LINE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT KIND OF COME IN THE FINAL PLOT STAGE. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU. AND I THINK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL APPRECIATES THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK AND HAVE THAT THE MEETING AND, AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION, UH, AND TO HELP EASE THE, THE CONCERNS OR, AND SEE WHAT'S, WHAT'S POSSIBLE AS YOU GO FORWARD. UH, YOU'RE THE NEW OWNER OF THE LAND. UH, THEY STILL HAVE, UH, THE TASTE OF THE PREVIOUS OWNER IN THEIR, IN THEIR MOUTH. AND SO HELP CLEANSE THAT FOR THEM AS WE GO FORWARD. COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING HOW ALL YOUR CONVERSATIONS PAN OUT. AND SO JUST TO KIND OF CONFIRM WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. SO WE ARE ASKING THAT THE CITY ORGANIZED A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING, CORRECT. PRIOR TO BEFORE THE FINAL, FINAL PLAT. SO MM-HMM, IN THE SET EXPECTATIONS WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR FINAL PLAT, WE WOULD SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OF MM-HMM , WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON THE SIDES OF THAT STREET AND, AND WHERE MAYBE SOME THINGS ARE LOCATED, INTERIOR WILL BE FIGURED OUT. AND THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT. SO EARLY IN THIS STAGE, MM-HMM, , WE'RE GOOD IN EDUCATING US. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN WE GET SITUATIONS AND CALLS DATING BACK TO 2013 AND PREVIOUS OWNERS. AND SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN EDUCATING US. AND I GUESS TO THE RESIDENTS TOO, I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING, THE GROWTH, UM, WE'RE IN A DIFFICULT SPOT IN THAT THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS APPROVED IN 2013, AND IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE RE EXTENDED BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT HAD HAPPENED. AND SO THAT OWNER HAS CERTAIN RIGHTS TO DEVELOP IT. UM, AND I KNOW MR. MANIC HAS A LONG LIST OF ROAD PROJECTS AND COVELL IS ONE OF THEM. UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ADDRESS ALL THE ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAD A COMMUNITY OR A WORKSHOP RECENTLY ABOUT THAT. SO BY NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THAT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU. WE DO. UM, BUT LEGALLY WE ALSO ARE LIMITED SOMETIMES IN WHAT WE CAN DO. SO THANK YOU. NEXT [H. Case #Z22-00014 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ________ Rezoning from “A” Single Family Dwelling District to “PUD Z22-00014” Planned Unit Development for Wade Martin Commercial Center, located on the south side of East 2nd Street, west of Wade Martin Road. (Sondra Johnson)] CASE IS CASE NUMBER Z 22, 2 14 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39, 19 39, 19 REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT TO P U D Z 22 0 0 1 4 PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR WADE MARTIN COMMERCIAL CENTER LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST SECOND STREET WEST OF WADE MARTIN ROAD. SANDRA JOHNSON IS THE AFRICAN IS AFRICAN HERE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. AS YOU SAID, THE AFRICAN IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE PUD TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF EAST SECOND. AND WADE MARTIN, UH, AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, UH, PUB W IS RIGHT THERE, NEIGHBORHOOD JAM IS RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S WADE MARTIN. SO NO, YEAH, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, THE P D IS ONE TRACK THAT SHOWS, UH, RETAIL USE IS ALONG SECOND STREET WITH SELF STORAGE BEHIND THE P D COMMITS TO BUILDINGS BEING TWO STORIES OR LESS IN HEIGHT AND LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. UH, IT ALSO COMMITS TO A SITE PROOF FENCE ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. UH, THE PDD ALSO COMMITS TO FOLLOWING THE E ONE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UH, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY E ONE AND E TWO ZONINGS AND USES TO THE EAST AND WEST AND A SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH. UH, THE MASTER PLAN DOES NOT SHOW AN ENTRANCE ON, OR I'M SORRY, DOES SHOW AN ENTRANCE ON THE SECOND STREET, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS INFORMED THAT AT THE POINT OF SITE PLAN, THAT WILL REQUIRE VARIANCE, THAT WILL LIKELY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY STAFF. UH, THE SITE DOES HAVE ACCESS TO WADE MARTIN, WHICH IS ALONG THIS SIDE AND ALSO HAS AN EASEMENT TO A, A PRIVATE [02:25:01] DRIVE RIGHT THERE ON THE WEST. UH, THE SITE IS DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN INFILL ON THE EDMOND 2018 PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE PED TO MAKE SURE THE COMPATIBILITY IS ACHIEVED WITHIN THE DEVELOPED AREA SURROUNDING IT. UH, IN THIS CASE, THERE'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, ALL ALONG SECOND STREET, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THE AUGUST 16TH MEETING. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? UH, YES, SIR. UH, CHUCK TWK WITH SRB ENGINEERING. IT'S, UH, 100 NORTHEAST FIFTH, FIFTH STREET IN OKLAHOMA CITY. AND, UM, JUST AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANKS FOR HANGING OUT WITH US ALL COUNCIL. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE AND STAFF'S ANSWERED A LOT OF OTHER QUESTIONS. AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE. THAT ONLY PASS ITEM CITIZENS COMMENTS. THE ONE SIGNED UP FOR SALES COMMENTS. OKAY. WHAT WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS. OKAY. SO NEXT ITEM [10. Comments from Mayor and City Councilmembers.] IS ITEM NUMBER 10, COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS LIKE TO THANK WELL, OUR POLICE AND FIRE FOR THE NINE AND NINE 11 CELEBRATION THAT WE HAD THIS PAST SATURDAY AT, UM, NORTH HIGH SCHOOL. IT WAS, IT WAS A NICE REFLECTION OF WHAT HAPPENED 21 YEARS AGO. UH, APPRECIATE THAT, UH, WE HAD OTHER THINGS GOING ON. WE HAD UCO HAD A NICE ONE ON FRIDAY. UCO HAD ONE, RIGHT? CORRECT. MM-HMM I WAS THERE FOR THAT ONE ALSO MM-HMM FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND, UM, I DIDN'T SEE YOU ALL AT THE IRISH SOCIETY PLANT SALE ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD FROM, WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY WAS OUR LAST STEVENSON PARK. OH. AND THEN THANK YOU KNOW. YEAH, WE HAD THE GREAT CELEBRATION TODAY. MM-HMM WE TURNED SOME DIRT FOR STEVENSON PARK THAT HISTORIC PARK FOR US IS GOING TO GET A FACELIFT OR RENOVATION AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND, AND CREATE MEMORIES THERE MM-HMM MAYOR. I'M GOING TO MENTION ONE, I GUESS, IT'S FOOTBALL SEASON, BUT, UH, UCO DID, DID KIND OF OPEN UP THEIR NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM. MM-HMM , UH, THEY HAD A GAME ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND A WIN. UM, BUT MAN, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN, IF YOU HAVEN'T CHECKED OUT THAT STADIUM WITH THE WATERFALL AND THE AMAZING LANDSCAPING AND THE, THE UPPER DECK SEATING ON THE VISITORS SIDE IS JUST REALLY INCREDIBLE. AND WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A CONNECTION MORE THAN JUST UCO PLAYING THERE. UM, FOUR, A FIVE, A AND SIX, A, UH, HIGH SCHOOL STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE AT THAT STADIUM AT THE END OF THE, THE SEASON. AND THAT'S A HUGE TOURISM DRAW, UH, FOR, FOR ADMIN AT THAT TIME. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED THAT THAT'S HAPPENED AND IT HELPS US AND UCO. AND ONE OTHER THING, MEMORIAL BULLDOGS HAD A WIN ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND IT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST WIN THEY'VE HAD IN THEIR NEW STADIUM, UH, ON, ON 15TH STREET. THAT'S TRUE. AND SO, AND IT WAS THEIR HOMECOMING WIN ENDEAVOR GAMES GO TO UCLA AS WELL. YEAH, YEAH. AND ENDEAVOR GAMES. YES. I JUST LOVE ALL THE PART DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, UH, TO USE, UTILIZE OUR FACILITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. IT, YES, I JUST WAS GONNA WELCOME OUR CITY CLERK TONIGHT. UH, COREY ATK HAS EXPERIENCE IN THIS, IN THIS SEAT AND, UH, WELCOME HIM BACK TO HELP US. YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK CANDYMAN RETURNS. YES. TRUE. IT'S SO TRUE. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? NO, I WOULD TAKE MOTION. AJON MOTION A SECOND CASH. YOUR VOTE. OH, VOTE. WE ARE HERE BY ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.