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[1. Call to Order by Mayor Darrell A. Davis.]
ORDER ON OCTOBER 10TH,[2. Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes: September 26, 2022]
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2022.OKAY, THOSE MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[3. City Council Nominations to Boards and Commissions:]
NOMINATIONS TO BOARD AND COMMISSIONS THE MAYOR'S NOMINATIONS AND REAPPOINTMENT REAPPOINTMENT OF DEREK KERN TO THE ARCADIA LAKE COMMISSION.REAPPOINTMENT APPOINT OF SANDRA NAY TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2025.
REAPPOINTMENT OF VICTOR CARRO TO THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE OF OUR, OF OUR BOARD.
THERE IS NO MAX TERM ON THAT APPOINTMENT.
REAPPOINTMENT OF CHARLES PETERSON TO THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE BOARD.
AND THERE IS NO MAX TERM FOR THE WARD ONE NOMINATIONS.
IN REAPPOINTMENT, WE HAVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ROCKY NEY TO THE ARCADIA LAKE COMMISSION.
REAPPOINTMENT OF ED CONIFF TO THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION TERM EXPIRES 2025 ON THE WARD FOR OUR NOMINATIONS REAPPOINTMENT.
THERE WILL BE NO ACTION ON THREE.
A, UH, NOMINATION, UM, OF BRIAN HOLLAND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ADVISORY BOARD REPLACING DR.
KATE ARNOLD TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2023.
AND THEN THE REAPPOINTMENT OF CASEY WILLIAMS TO THE ARCADIA LAKE COMMISSIONS TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER, 2025.
THOSE ARE OUR NOMINATIONS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.
COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING? MOTION TO APPROVE APPOINTMENTS.
SECOND, PLEASE CASH YOUR VOTE.
THOSE NOMINATIONS ARE NOW APPOINTMENTS.
[4. General Consent Items: (Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may request discussion or separate action on any item under General Consent.)]
HAVE OUR GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. ITEMS LISTED BELOW ARE USUALLY APPROVED AS A GROUP WITH THE PROPER MOTION FROM A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OR SEPARATE ACTION ON ANY ITEM UNDER GENERAL CONSENT.
OUR FIRST ITEM IS WE, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, UH, OUT OF THE SIX THAT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
[1. Discussion and consideration of the renewal of the Tennis Sports Partnership Agreement with Edmond Tennis Services, LLC for operations and management of Edmond Center Court.]
ITEM FOUR A ONE IS THE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF THE RENEWAL OF THE TENNIS SPORTS PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH EDMOND TENNIS SERVICES, LLC FOR OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE EDMOND CENTER COURT.GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT PRESENTATION NOW, RYAN.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN OPERATING THE, UM, EDMOND CENTER COURT WITH A PARTNERSHIP.
UM, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF EDMOND AND ED EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT BRINGS THAT FACILITY TO US AS A COMMUNITY.
CITY OWNS THE LAND AND THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS THE BUILDING AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION OF THAT.
AND SINCE 2018, WE'VE, UH, CONTRACTED WITH DAVID MENAHAN, WHO'S HERE WITH ME.
HE'S WITH EDMOND TENNIS SERVICES.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK DAVID HERE TO ASK TO, UH, MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
UH, JUST TO REVIEW THE LAST YEAR OR SO OF THE FACILITIES OPERATION.
I'M, UH, NOT A TENNIS PERSON MYSELF, SPECIFICALLY TO THE SPORT.
UM, BUT I AM ABSOLUTELY A COMMUNITY PERSON AND I SEE DAVID DELIVER THAT IN SO MANY WAYS IN THE WAY HE OPERATES THE FACILITY.
SO IT'S REALLY BEEN A PLEASURE TO SEE, SEE HOW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAPPENS IN THIS SPACE.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS DAVID MENAHAN.
UM, UH, IT IS JUST, I, I I, I'VE TOLD SO MANY PEOPLE, IT'S JUST SUCH A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO RUN A COMPLEX LIKE EDMOND CENTER COURT.
UM, KIND OF LOOKING BACK AT 2022, UM, THREE AREAS THAT PROBABLY STAND OUT ONE ARE OUR JUNIOR PARTICIPATION, UH, JUST CONTINUES TO BE, UM, EXTREMELY STRONG.
WE'VE SOLD OUT ALL OF OUR CLASSES THE LAST TWO YEARS, WHICH IS, IT'S, I GUESS IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INTRODUCE THE SPORT AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME CREATE A GOOD COACH STUDENT RATIO.
UM, NUMBER TWO IS OUR PLAY A FORWARD, UH, TENNIS FOUNDATION.
UM, PROBABLY, UH, WHAT I'M IS MY PASSION, IT'S MY JOY.
UM, AND, UH, WE WORK WITH PLAYERS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
UM, AND, UM, UM, WE HAVE WEEKLY PROGRAMS, UM, UH, FOR THOSE ATHLETES.
AND, UM, JUST RECENTLY, KIND OF ON A SITE NOTE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO GET THE SPORT OF TENNIS IN
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THE OKLAHOMA SPECIAL OLYMPICS.SURPRISINGLY, IT'S, IT'S NOT A SPORT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF PROCESS.
UM, AND WE'RE NOW DOWN TO THE BOARD VOTE, WHICH WILL GO, UH, SOMETIME NEXT MONTH.
SO WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND THEN LAST IS OUR TOURNAMENTS.
UM, WE, WE SET A RECORD THIS YEAR WITH THE AMOUNT OF TOURNAMENTS THAT WE'VE HOSTED IN EDMOND WITH 38 TOTAL TOURNAMENTS.
WE ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED OUR 38TH ABOUT AN HOUR AGO WITH THE U S T A NATIONAL BOYS AND GIRLS EIGHTEENS.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE YEAR, UM, PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE HIGHLIGHT WAS RECEIVING THE U S D A NATIONAL OUTSTANDING FACILITY OF THE YEAR, WHICH WILL BE RECOGNIZED.
UH, WE WERE HONORED, UH, WITH THAT AWARD IN CINCINNATI AT THE WESTERN OPEN, UH, PROFESSIONAL TOURNAMENT.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE EDMOND CENTER COURT, EDMOND, OKLAHOMA, ON A PERMANENT SIGN AT THE US OPEN IN NEW YORK.
SO WE'RE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT ALL THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO WHAT'S BEFORE THIS EVENING IS A RENEWAL OF THIS AGREEMENT, UH, WITH OUR OPERATOR.
IT'S SO ONE YEAR TERM AT THIS POINT, UH, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED TO YOU FOR APPROVAL BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, SO, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS HAPPEN TO ENTERTAIN THOSE COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS REAL QUICK? NOT ABOUT THE AGREEMENT NECESSARILY, AND, AND PROBABLY CAN'T GO TOO FAR OFF AGENDA ON THIS, BUT IS THERE STILL, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL FACILITY, GREAT TOURNAMENTS COMING.
I THINK WE HAVE A PRO MINS TENNIS TOURNAMENT COMING IN JANUARY.
ANYTHING TO THAT THE FACILITY NEEDS AS FAR AS, UM, TO, TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER AT THIS POINT? THERE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS, UM, AND LIST THAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY WORKING WITH CURRENTLY INCLUDES, UM, SOME MEDICAL DEVICES FOR THE FACILITY, SOME SHADE AND SOME, UH, BLEACHER, SOME OF THOSE SPECTATOR AND PROBABLY AN AUDIO VIDEO SYSTEM TOO FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW THINGS.
DO THEY NOT HAVE ANY CURRENTLY? NO, NOT AT FACILITY.
UM, YEAH, SO THAT COMES IN TO ANOTHER TOPIC AND COMES AT BUDGETING AT SOME POINT, OR ARE LOOKING AT THAT FOR, FOR THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS. AND SOME OF THOSE NEEDS ARE BEING ADDRESSED CURRENTLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? AND THEN WE HAD ONE
[6. Discussion and Consideration of Approval of KickingBird Pickleball Lease Agreement with The Greater Oklahoma City Pickleball Club.]
OTHER ITEM, ITEM FOUR A SIX DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE KICKING BIRD PICKLEBALL LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE GREATER OKLAHOMA CITY PICKLEBALL CLUB.TALKING ABOUT THAT, BRIAN JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE GET YOUR ALL ABOUT RACK SPORTS THIS EVENING.
SO THIS WHEN, UH, WHEN PLANS WERE BEING DEVELOPED FOR STEVENSON PARK UPGRADES, THAT DISPLACED, UH, PLACE WHERE PICKLE BALL WAS CURRENTLY BEING PLAYED IN EDMOND, ONE OF THE PRIMARY PLACES.
SO THAT GROUP WAS, UM, SET UP TO PLAY PICKLE BALL AT, AT KICKING BIRD, UM, AS CUZ THE TENNIS CENTER WAS JUST BEING VACATED FOR EDMOND CENTER COURT HERE.
SO THAT GROUP'S BEEN ENJOYING THE FACILITIES THERE AT KICKING BIRD ADJACENT TO KICKING BIRD GOLF.
UH, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GREATER OKLAHOMA CITY PICKLE BALL CLUBS SINCE 2020.
SO A COUPLE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THAT AGREEMENT.
NOW, WHAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS TO RENEW THAT AGREEMENT FOR ANOTHER ONE YEAR TERM AS THEIR CURRENT AGREEMENT IS, UH, CURRENTLY EXPIRED AND EXPIRING.
UM, AND ON THIS ONE ALSO, THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO YOU ALL FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY INCREDIBLE IN OUR PACKET.
THE NUMBERS WERE, I THINK THEY HAVE OVER 1900 MEMBERS AND G O P B AND OVER A THOUSAND HAVE AN ADMIN ADDRESS.
SO DEFINITELY A SPORTS SPORT THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN OFF.
ABSOLUTELY WELL REPRESENTED HERE BY ADMIN RESIDENTS.
ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR RYAN WHERE THESE ARE ALL UNDER THEIR, UM, GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. SO IF YOU, THERE'S NO IN INDICATION TO PULL OUT ANY OF THE OTHERS, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS FOUR A ONE THROUGH SIX.
SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE.
NEXT ITEMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[B. Approval of Purchases:]
B IS APPROVE OR PURCHASES APPROVE OR PURCHASE 16 LIFE PACK CR TWO DEFIBRILLATORS NINE, LIFE PACK A THOUSAND DEFIBRILLATORS ONE LIFE PACK CR TWO A E D TRAINER, FOUR WALL[00:10:01]
CABINETS AND FOUR WALL SIGNS FROM STRIKER MEDICAL ON THE STATE CONTRACT, NAS SSW 300 FOR $52,512 97 CENTS.OUR FUNDS WILL BE THE SOURCE OF AETNA.
ALSO ACCEPTANCE OF PROPOSAL, APPROVAL OF THE PRO PHARMACY BENEFIT PROVIDER AGREEMENT TO BE AFFECTED FROM NOVEMBER, 2022 TO THE END OF COUNT TO YEAR 2023.
THIS ITEM HAS CONTINUED FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 26TH MEETING.
THIRD ITEM IS APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO, DUE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH ATLAS PAVING FOR THE FY 2021 STREET OVERLAY PROJECTS FOR 126,000 HUNDRED $39 AND 48 CENTS INCREASE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, UH, FOUR B FOUR.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT ONE TO OCTOBER 24TH, THE CHANGE ORDER FOR, UH, KINGBIRD GOLF CLUB PROJECT.
DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT CONTINUANCE? YES, WE GET INCLUDED AS PART OF ALL FOUR, FOUR B ONE THROUGH FOUR.
UH, ITEM B FOUR TILL OCTOBER 24TH.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND? WE HAVE SECOND.
THOSE THAT HAVE IMPROVED IN ITEM FOUR B UM, HAS BEEN, UH, EXTENDED TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 24TH.
[A. A. Presentation by Robbie Squires, Director of Government Affairs, Cox Communications B. Consideration of Resolution No. ________ Granting a Franchise of CoxCom, LLC d/b/a Cox Communications to Operate a Cable Television System Within the City of Edmond, Oklahoma for a Period Not to Exceed Five Years.]
NOW WE HAVE CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTIONS FIVE A.WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RECEIVE A PRESENTATION BY ROBBIE SQUIRES FOR THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR COX COMMUNICATION.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY ON BEHALF OF OUR 1500 EMPLOYEES HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
UM, MANY, MANY WHO LIVE RIGHT HERE IN THE, THE COMMUNITY OF EDMOND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK, UH, WITH YOU.
WE HAVE BEEN A PARTNER IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR, UH, 30 YEARS, OVER 30 YEARS.
UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, CONTINUING THAT PARTNERSHIP IN THE LONG RUN.
I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD FOR US JUST TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER.
UM, WHEN I MET WITH, UM, YOUR NEW CITY MANAGER AND, UH, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE'S MORE TO THE COMPANY, UM, THAN MAYBE MOST PEOPLE KNOW.
AND IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT.
I MIGHT DO THAT IF I KNOW HOW TO WORK THIS.
JUST BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN YOU'RE A TECHNOLOGY EXPERT.
COX COMMUNICATIONS IS A FAMILY OWNED COMPANY.
SO WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST CABLE PROVIDER IN THE COUNTRY, BUT WE'RE THE LARGEST PRIVATELY OWNED.
WE WERE FOUNDED BY JAMES M. COX, GOVERNOR COX, UM, STARTED AS A NEWSPAPER MAN AND WENT INTO, UH, RADIO AND TV, CABLE, INTERNET.
UM, SO EVERY ITERATION OF COMMUNICATION, UM, WE'VE BEEN A PART OF OVER THE LAST 125 YEARS.
UM, HE WAS THE GOVERNOR OF OHIO, WENT ON TO BE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE.
UM, THOSE OF US THAT WORK FOR THE COMPANY ARE THANKFUL HE LOST BECAUSE HE CAME BACK AND GREW THE COMPANY, UH, MAYBE AS A COUNTRY WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE HIM AS PRESIDENT.
UM, TODAY WE'RE A PRIVATELY HELD COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY.
UM, WE'VE GOT REVENUES OF NEARLY 15 BILLION AND MORE THAN A 50,000 EMPLOYEES, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND WE ARE BEING RUN BY FOURTH GENERATION LEADERSHIP.
SO THE GREAT GRANDSON OF OUR FOUNDERS AT THE HOME.
NOW, MOST OF YOU KNOW US AS COX COMMUNICATIONS, AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, COX BUSINESS AND COX MEDIA.
UM, OUR ADVERTISING ARM, UM, THAT SPECIALIZES IN TARGETED ADVERTISING SOLUTIONS UTILIZING BOTH TRADITIONAL AND DIGITAL PLATFORMS. UM, SO COX COMMUNICATIONS, COX BUSINESS, COX MEDIA COLLECTIVELY HAS, UH, 20,000 EMPLOYEES AND WE SERVE 350,000 BUSINESSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND WE'RE IN 6 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS.
WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT COX COMMUNICATIONS IS THERE'S SO, OR COX ENTERPRISES, THERE'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TO IT.
UM, SO ONE OF THE LARGEST ARMS IS, UH, OUR COX AUTOMOTIVE.
UM, SO YOU MAY KNOW NAMES LIKE MANHEIM, WHICH IS THE LARGEST AUTO AUCTION IN THE WORLD.
UM, KELLY BLUE BOOK, AUTOTRADER, THOSE ALL ARE UNDERNEATH, UM, THE COX UMBRELLA.
UM, SPECIFICALLY HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
WE RECENTLY, IN THE LAST YEAR, PURCHASED SPEARS NEW TECHNOLOGY.
UM, SPEARS, UH, IS THE FULL SERVICE PROVIDER FOR REPAIR, REMANUFACTURING, REFURBISHING AND REPURPOSING OF ADVANCED BATTERY PACKS USED IN HYBRID AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
UM, AND OUR PORTFOLIO ALSO INCLUDES CHIPOLO, WHICH IS A HOME HEALTHCARE COMPANY, UM, WHICH EXTENDS PATIENT CARE PAST THE WALLS OF THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND CONNECTS THEM TO HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR, UH, HOME.
SO WE ALSO HAVE, UM, MANAGED CLOUD SERVICES WITH
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RAPID SCALE AND RIVIAN, IF YOU'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF THEM, THEY'RE FINALLY ON THE ROAD.WE'RE A HEAVY INVESTOR IN RIVIAN AS WELL.
SO OUR NETWORK, THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT.
THIS IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR, UH, NETWORK HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
UM, OUR NATIONAL FIBER BACKBONE INCLUDES OVER AN OVER 200,000 MI MILE FIBER RICH NETWORK WITH 24 7 MONITORING.
THIS SELF KILLING SCALABLE NETWORK ALLOWS US TO SERVE 18 STATES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE OKLAHOMA CITY METRO, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PATHS OF REDUNDANCY, UM, WHICH ENSURES THAT, UM, NO MATTER WHAT CRISIS COMES AND IN OKLAHOMA, THERE'S BOUND TO BE A STORM OR SOMETHING.
UM, WE ARE GONNA BE SERVED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, AND AS EDMOND IS A LEADER IN BUSINESS AND CONTINUES TO GROW ITS INFLUENCE AS A CENTER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE OUR SUBSEA TRANSATLANTIC FIBER THAT CAN OFFER CONNECTIVITY TO COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS WHO REQUIRE INTERNATIONAL CONNECTIONS WITH LOW LATENCY AS WELL.
LET'S TELL TALK ABOUT THESE TODAY.
RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ACROSS OUR ENTIRE COX FOOTPRINT CAN GET UP TO ONE GIG SPEEDS TO THEIR HOME.
WE ARE RECENTLY NAMED THE FASTEST DOWNLOAD SPEEDS IN THE COUNTRY BY GLOBAL BROADBAND SPEED TEST COMPANY OKLA, OUR COX BUSINESS.
CUS COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS CAN GET UP TO A HUNDRED GIG IF THEY NEED THAT TYPE OF SPEED FOR THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF OUR NATIONWIDE INVESTMENT AND NETWORK RESILIENCY THROUGH THIS PLANNED INVESTMENT.
WE'RE ENHANCING OUR NETWORK NOW TO PREPARE FOR 10 GIG RESIDENTIAL DEPLOYMENT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
AND THESE NUMBERS, I THINK ONES THAT ALWAYS STICK OUT TO ME IS THE 16 BILLION INVESTMENT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND THE $10 BILLION INVESTMENT COMING UP IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THAT'S JUST FOR UPGRADES BECAUSE THE, THE INTERNET IS NOT A, UM, IT, IT'S A LIVING IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO INVEST AND UPGRADE FOR WHAT WE NEED IN THE FUTURE, UM, AS EVERYTHING BECOMES MORE AND MORE DIGITAL.
UM, SO 10, LIKE YOU SAID, 16 BILLION OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WAS JUST FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S NOT ADDITIONAL BUILD OUT THAT'S JUST FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND ANOTHER 10 BILLION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
SO HERE IN EDMOND SPECIFICALLY, WE CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH CITY LEADERS, UM, ESPECIALLY COUNCILMAN JOSH MOORE, UM, HAS BEEN APPROACHED US TIME AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT THE NEEDS FOR EAST EDMOND.
UM, AND SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE HIS PARTNERSHIP AND HIS CONTINUED ADVOCACY FOR EAST EDMOND.
UM, WE WORKED WITH CITY LEADERS SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS BARRIERS THAT WERE PREVENTING US FROM EXTENDING OUR NETWORK ON THE EAST SIDE OF LAKE ARCADIA.
AND YOU ALL WERE SO GREAT TO HELP ELIMINATE THOSE BARRIERS AND WE WERE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT NETWORK.
COX HAS COMMITTED 400 MILLION TO BUILD OUT TO UNSERVED AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, AND EAST EDMOND IS A PRIORITY FOR US IN THAT SPACE.
UH, WE ARE TWO YEARS OUT OF COVID, OR A YEAR AND A HALF OUT OF COVID, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S STILL BEEN RESIDUAL, UM, EFFECTS EVEN NOW.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST PROUD ABOUT FOR OUR COMPANY IS THAT AS WE SHIFTED AND MANY BUSINESSES WE'RE FACING CRISIS, UM, WE, WE RECOGNIZE IN HOMES, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, EDUCATORS, FAMILIES, UM, WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO PIVOT.
UM, AND THE BEAUTY OF THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS WHEN THAT SHIFT HAPPENED, THE NETWORK WAS READY AND PREPARED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, MAJOR PROBLEMS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT THING, UM, TO SHOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE INVESTING FOR WHAT YOU NEED YEARS IN ADVANCE, NOT NOW.
UM, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH, UM, WITH BUSINESSES TO DO FREE ADVERTISING FOR PSAS.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO PAUSE BILLS FOR BUSINESSES RECOGNIZING THAT THEY WEREN'T GETTING THE INCOME THEY NEEDED AND THEY WEREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR BILLS.
AND WE WANTED THEM TO COME OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COVID, UM, WITH THE ABILITY TO SUCCEED.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH MANY OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN THAT WAY.
ONE OF THE PROGRAMS I'M MOST PROUD ABOUT, WE WERE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE TWO FIRST COMPANIES TO CREATE A PROGRAM BACK IN 2012, UM, TO ADDRESS THE DIGITAL DIVIDE.
IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, TESTED RIGHT HERE IN, IN THE OKLAHOMA CITY MARKET, UM, CONNECT TO COMPETE.
WHAT WE RECOGNIZE IS STUDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET AT HOME ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE TO THOSE STUDENTS WHO DO HAVE THE INTERNET AT HOME.
AND SO WE CREATED A PROGRAM FOR 9 95 THAT INCLUDES, THERE'S NO CONTRACT THAT INCLUDES YOUR EQUIPMENT, THAT INCLUDES YOUR INSTALLATION, UM, TO ENSURE THAT IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT IN K THROUGH 12 ON YOU ARE ON TANF OR FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH, THAT WE CAN GET INTERNET INTO YOUR HOME TO ENSURE THAT YOUR STUDENT CAN THRIVE.
AND WHAT WE SAW OFTENTIMES IN THAT CASE, UM, WAS
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THAT PARENTS WERE ALSO ABLE TO THRIVE IS THEY WERE ABLE TO USE THE INTERNET TO APPLY FOR JOBS, UM, OR DO WORK, UH, FROM HOME AS WELL.UM, SO THAT PROGRAM CONTINUES.
AND DURING THE PANDEMIC, THAT WAS ZERO.
UH, WE MADE IT $0 CAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY BARRIER IF EVEN $10 WAS TOO MUCH.
UM, SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE A REALLY GREAT PROGRAM.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, YOU'VE SEEN THIS, WE HEAR A LOT OF TIME, IS IT, IS THE INTERNET AN AVAILABILITY ISSUE OR AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE? AND IN A LOT OF CASES, LIKE EAST EDMOND, IT MAY BE AN AVAILABILITY ISSUE.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE FOR THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROGRAMS CREATED TO HELP ADDRESS THIS.
SO SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE FCC CREATED THE AFFORDABLE CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM.
SO IF, IF YOU ARE ON ANY OF THOSE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, UM, YOU AND, AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO 200% OF POVERTY LEVEL.
UH, YOU CAN GET $30, UH, SUBSIDY FOR INTERNET, AND WE CREATED A TIER THAT WAS $30 TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS THAT WAY WOULD BE FREE FOR ANY ANYBODY WHO, WHO QUALIFIES FOR THAT PROGRAM.
UH, WE ARE ABLE TO ALSO ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE COMPUTER COMPANY TO GET COMPUTERS TO ANY HOMES THAT NEEDED THOSE DEVICES.
UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THAT.
UM, IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR EDMOND, BUT IN 70 OF THE 77 COUNTIES IN OKLAHOMA, THEY QUALIFY FOR THE $75 TRIBAL LAND DISCOUNT.
SO IN MANY PLACES IN OKLAHOMA, UM, YOU CAN GET $75 OFF OF YOUR BILL HERE IN EDMOND FOR 30.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CREATED SEVERAL INTERNET TIERS TO ENSURE THAT EVERY HOME HAS THE ABILITY TO GET INTERNET, UM, AT A VERY LOW OR ZERO, UH, COST.
WE ALSO INVEST HEAVILY IN DIGITAL CA ACADEMY, PARTNERSHIP AID, ENT, UM, AND INNOVATION LAB SPECIFICALLY AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US, BUT I'D LOVE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
I'M GONNA MAKE A STATEMENT IF I CAN.
I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH HOW KIND ROBBIE HAS BEEN TO TAKE MY PHONE CALLS
AND I, I, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU'RE A WONDERFUL REPRESENTATIVE FOR COX.
AND SO, UM, IF THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH A COMPANY AND YOU GET SOMEBODY LIKE ROBBIE TO TO CALL AND TALK TO, I, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.
AND SO I'M IN COMPLETE SUPPORT FOR RENEWING THIS AGREEMENT AND, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, TO, TO A FUTURE RELATIONSHIP AND BIGGER AND BETTER RELATION RELATIONSHIP WITH COX.
YOU'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL, UM, ADVOCATE AND A GREAT PARTNER.
UM, EDMOND'S ALWAYS BEEN, UM, WE HAVE MANY GREAT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
EDMOND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN SO, UM, EAGER TO GROW AND ADVANCE THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY REACH OUT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO COLLABORATE AND PARTNER.
AND YOU'VE BEEN A A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I, I HAVE ONE OF, IS COX THE ONLY INTERNET PROVIDER IN, IN THE STATE? NOT THE ONLY INTERNET PROVIDER IN THE STATE, NO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T EVEN THINK WE'RE THE ONLY INTERNET PROVIDER IN THE CITY.
OH, THAT'S, WE MAY, WE MAY BE, UM, A CABLE FRANCHISE IS NON EXCLUSIVE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE AN ELECTRIC FRANCHISE.
SO ANY, UM, BECAUSE IT'S OPEN, ANY CABLE COMPANY CAN COME TO THE MARKET.
I THINK WE'RE JUST THE ONLY CABLE COMPANY THAT HAS CHOSEN TO.
WE GET A VOTE ON ITEM FIVE B, PLEASE.
IT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER 23 DASH 22 TRAINING TO FRANCHISE TO COX COM.
BASICALLY EXTENDING OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR FIVE YEARS.
SECOND, PLEASE CASH YOUR VOTE.
WE DID FIVE A WELL AND B FIVE A HAD FIVE.
A HAD TWO BS, B HAD A B, AND THEN NOW WE'RE AT FIVE B, WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE NEXT RE RIGHT REGARDING 9 1 1.
[B. Consideration of Resolution No. ______ Establishing the 9-1-1 Emergency Telephone Fee Rate for Calendar Year 2023.]
ON FIVE B, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 DASH 22, 24 DASH 22, ESTABLISHING THE NINE ONE ONE EMERGENCY TELEPHONE FEE RATE FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2023.THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE RESOLUTION WE DO EVERY YEAR THAT, UH, CERTIFIES WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WOULD BE, UH, FOR GUARD NINE ONE ONE EMERGENCY TELEPHONE FEE RATE, UH, NOTIFIED BY ACOG THAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS LIKE WE DO EVERY YEAR.
UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT THIS IS JUST OUR STANDARD RESOLUTION WE DO ANNUALLY.
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MM-HMM.AND THIS IS TAKING ACOG'S 9 1 1 SYSTEM COMPLETELY TO DIGITAL, UM, SERVICES AND, AND SOME THINGS LIKE, UH, TEXT 9 1 1.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY, UH, HIGH TECH STUFF NEXT LEVEL.
AND WE'RE COMING DOWN TO ABOUT THE LAST MONTH OR TWO OF FINAL TESTING AND, AND GOING LIVE WITH NEXTGEN.
SO BIG THINGS HAPPENING AT 9 1 1 AND IT'S SKID STUFF.
NEED A MOTION ON ITEM FIVE B, RESOLUTION 24 DASH 22.
I MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 22 ITEM FIVE B A SECOND.
MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND PLEASE CASH YOUR VOTE.
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[6. Public Hearing and Consideration of proposed reduction or elimination of bus service to the 100X commuter route to Oklahoma City, minor changes to Routes 3 and 4 and the addition of two new Citylink routes – one serving the Boulevard/Broadway Corridor and one serving the I-35 Corridor.]
NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION OF BUS SERVICE TO THE 100 X COMMUTER ROUTE TO OKLAHOMA CITY.MINOR CHANGES TO ROUTE THREE AND FOUR IN ADDITION OF TWO NEW CITY LINK ROUTES.
ONE SERVING THE BOULEVARD BROADWAY CORRIDOR AND ONE SERVING THE I 35 CORRIDOR.
CHRISTIE PATTISON WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M CHRISTY PATTERSON, THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.
I'M ALSO OVERSEE OUR TRANSIT CONTRACT.
UM, TONIGHT YOU'LL HAVE BEFORE YOU SOME PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING TO CITYLINK.
JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, CITYLINK STARTED BACK IN 2009 WITH FOUR FIXED ROUTES, ONE OF THEM SERVING THE UCO CAMPUS AND ONE COMMUTER ROUTE CALLED THE A HUNDRED X.
UM, NO ROUTES, NO ROUTE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THEN, OTHER THAN SOME MINOR TWEAKS HERE AND THERE.
SO WHAT MIGHT YOU'LL HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE SOME, UM, MINOR CHANGES, SOME ADDITIONS, AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE A HUNDRED X COMMUTER ROUTE.
JUST A LITTLE RECAP OF HOW CITYLINK, UH, CITYLINK COST AND WHERE IT COMES FROM.
UM, THIS IS OVER THE LIFETIME OF THE, OF THE ROUTES.
UM, SINCE 2009 OF OUR COST OF THE GREEN IS OUR OPERATIONS COST.
AND THE BLUE IS OUR MAINTENANCE COST.
OUR CONTRACTOR DOES OUR DRIVING, UM, OPERATING AND, UM, MAINTENANCE OF ALL OUR BUSES.
UM, THIS JUST KINDA SHOWS YOU OF WHERE THE CITY SHARE IS COMPARED TO THE FEDERAL SHARE.
WE ARE A SUB-RECIPIENT OF EMBARK, SO WE DO GET AN ALLOCATION OUT OF THEIR YEARLY, UM, ALLOCATION FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
UM, AT ONE TIME UP UNTIL 2020, UCO DID HAVE A SMALL ALLOCATION TO CITYLINK FOR THE ROUTE FOUR.
HOWEVER, AFTER 2020, UM, THAT WAS NO LONGER A PARTNERSHIP.
UM, SO CITYLINK OR CITY OF EDMOND HAS TO, HAD TO HAVE PICKED UP THAT COST.
UM, WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO RECEIVE 50% OF OUR OPERATIONS COST BACK FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 80% BACK ON MAINTENANCE.
SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOW, WHERE OUR COSTS COME FROM.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CHART, CHART JUST KIND OF SHOWING OVER THE YEARS OF WHERE, HOW MUCH IT'S COST AND WHERE IT'S COME FROM OVER TIME.
SO WE'LL START WITH THE ROUTE CHANGES.
I KNOW THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY'S ANTICIPATING.
UH, ROUTE ONE CURRENTLY SERVES FROM FESTIVAL MARKET.
ALL OUR BUSES START AT FESTIVAL MARKET AND GOES TO THE WALMART ON DAN FOURTH AND KELLY OR DAN FOURTH AND SANTA FE, I'M SORRY.
UM, AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THIS ROUTE.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR POPULAR ROUTES.
UM, RIDDEN ROUTE TWO STARTS AT FESTIVAL MARKET GOES TO CREST AND BACK AGAIN.
NO CHANGES ARE MADE TO THIS ROUTE.
ROUTE THREE WE'LL START AT FESTIVAL MARKET.
THIS IS WHERE THE MINOR CHANGES ARE STARTING, UM, USED TO WE USED TO GO DOWN INTO THE TARGET AREA AND THEN COME BACK OUT, UM, AND SERVE THE 15TH AND BRYANT AREA BACK AROUND TO FESTIVAL MARKET.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR CH ALL OUR CHANGES THE BEST IN THE EFFICIENT WAY WE CAN SO THAT EVERYTHING IS SERVED EVERY 30 MINUTES TO DO THAT.
WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THREE AND FOUR.
ROUTE THREE WILL NO LONGER GO TO TARGET, HOWEVER, IT WILL PICK UP THOSE WRITERS OUT ON VISTA LANE, WHICH, WHOOPS, SORRY, MY LITTLE POINTER.
THIS IS VISTA LANE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN IT WILL GO BACK DOWN 15TH, I MEAN DOWN BRYANT TO 15TH AND BACK AROUND TO FESTIVAL MARKET.
IT WILL ALSO NO LONGER SERVE THE RANKIN AND NINTH AREA.
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THE NEXT MINOR CHANGE IS TO UCO.UM, WE WILL NO LONGER BE GOING OUT TO VISTA LANE, HOWEVER, WE WILL BE PICKING UP THE TARGET ROUTE.
WE WILL ALSO BE COMING DOWN BRYANT PAST THE HOSPITAL AND BACK INTO THE FESTIVAL MARKET.
UM, THIS WILL ELIMINATE THE STOP AT THE NICE CENTER, HOWEVER, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A STOP RIGHT HERE AT FINK PARK.
IT'S ABOUT 600 FEET TO THE NICE CENTER, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WALK UP GODFREY, UM, TO GET TO THE NICE CENTER.
THERE'LL BE A STOP AT FI PARK AND A STOP CLOSE TO TOUCH THE CLOUD, SO, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE ON SECOND STREET.
SO THESE FOUR, THESE CHANGES THAT I'VE SHOWED YOU WITH ROUTE AND THREE, THEY'RE MINIMAL COST NEUTRAL CHANGES.
UM, THE NEXT CHANGES THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU DO HAVE SOME COST AFFECTED WITH THEM.
ROUTE FIVE WOULD BE A NEW ROUTE.
THIS WOULD PRIMARILY PICK UP, UM, WHAT THE HUNDRED X CURRENTLY USES.
IT WOULD LEAVE FESTIVAL MARKET, IT WOULD GO UP TO HEIRS DOWN UNIVERSITY BACK ALONG SECOND STREET TO BOULEVARD DOWN TO 33RD AND THEN BACK UP BROADWAY.
WE'RE CALLING THIS THE CIRCULAR ROUTE BECAUSE THIS IS THE ROUTE.
IT WOULD JUST MAKE A BIG CIRCLE CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
UM, COST FORECAST FOR THE REMAINING SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $139,000 CHANGES.
OR ACTUALLY IN ADDITION FORECAST FOR ROUTE SIX.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SERVE THE I 35 CORRIDOR.
UM, WE'VE BEEN, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS AND REQUESTS TO SERVE THE INTEGRIS IN THE MERCY CORRIDOR OUT THERE.
UM, THIS WOULD LEAVE FESTIVAL MARKET GO OUT SECOND STREET.
IT WOULD ALSO SERVE THE VISTA LANE ONE TIME GOING OUTBOUND.
AND THEN IT WOULD GO OUT TO I 35 COMING TO WHERE THE SANDS CLUB WALMART COME BACK OUT THE STOP AT BOTH MERCIES GO UP AND THEN BACK THROUGH A TIGRIS AND THEN BACK IN.
IT WOULD NOT STOP AT VISTA LANE COMING BACK IN.
UM, BUT THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO PUT A STOP RIGHT THERE AT THE LIGHT AT VISTA LANE SO PEOPLE CAN GET ON AND OFF THERE IF THEY NEED TO.
UM, THIS ALSO WILL, FUTURE WILL SERVE THE NEW I M C A IN THE LIBRARY.
UM, AND THE ESTIMATED, UH, COST WOULD BE 143,000 FOR THE REMAINING OF THIS YEAR BY ADDING THESE TWO NEW ROUTES.
UM, THE PURPLE THAT YOU SEE IS BASICALLY A HALF A MILE FROM ANY FIXED ROUTES.
THESE EVERY DOT REPRESENTS A HOUSEHOLD INSIDE THE INSIDE THAT BUFFER.
UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW OUR AVERAGE RIDERSHIP ON THE FOUR FIXED ROUTES WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS AROUND 24,000 RIDER A YEAR.
UM, WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY THINKING THAT IT'S GONNA BE 10 TO 15,000 PER YEAR ONCE A WORD GETS OUT ON THE TWO NEW ROUTES.
JUST A LITTLE SIDE NOTE ON THE ROUTE FIVE, UM, IT IS CURRENTLY BEING SERVED BY A HUNDRED X.
HOWEVER, ANYBODY THAT GETS ON THAT ROUTE HAS TO RIDE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY AND BACK BEFORE THEY WOULD GET IF THEY GET IT ON THE OUTBOUND.
SO IF THEY PICK UP ON BOULEVARD, THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY BEFORE THEY CAN COME BACK UP TO EDMOND.
SO ALL OF THESE ROUTES WERE MADE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM EDMOND SHIFT.
YOU SAW THE WORKSHOP TWO WEEKS AGO ON RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE.
WE TRIED TO STAY AS MOST COST NEUTRAL AS WE COULD.
UM, SO THE 100 X IS OUR MOST EXPENSIVE ROUTE THAT WE HAVE.
IT IS ALSO THE LEAST WRITTEN THAT WE HAVE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WITH THE PROPOSAL OF ELIMINATING A HUNDRED X, THE COST SAVINGS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 174,000 FOR THE REMAINING OF THE YEAR.
HOWEVER, WE'VE HAD OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE LAST 30 DAYS AND WE'VE HEARD FROM ABOUT 40 WRITERS THAT, UM, UTILIZE THE HUNDRED X AND WE ARE HAVE PROPOSALS THAT WE NOT ONLY ARE PRESENTING TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT WE ALSO PRESENTED TO THE EDMOND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.
THEIR RECOMMENDATION BASED OFF OF, UM, WORKING WITH OUR AT P D, WHICH IS OUR CONTRACTOR THAT OPERATES OUR AND MAINTAINS OUR BUS SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE REPORT FROM THE EDMOND SHIFT WAS THE ELIMINATION OF THE 100 X ROUTE.
SO I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF THE OPTIONS THIS EVENING TO REMAIN COST NEUTRAL IN ELIMINATION OF THE A HUNDRED X, THOSE FUNDS COULD FUND ONE ROUTE, WHICH WOULD EITHER BE ROUTE FIVE OR A ONE HOUR ROUTE OF ONE, ROUTE SIX.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR ROUTES MEET TOGETHER EVERY 30 MINUTES.
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THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD BE WITH THE ELIMINATION OF A HUNDRED X.WE COULD ALSO DO ONE ROUTE, WHICH WOULD BE ROUTE FIVE OR ROUTE SIX WITH, WITH AN ADJUSTMENT TO 100 X AND STILL BE COST NEUTRAL WITH ME SO FAR.
THE FIRST ONE IS TWO TRIPS DOWN TO EMBARK TRANSFER CENTER, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $50,000 OR $51,000.
SO TO REMAIN COST NEUTRAL, WE COULD EITHER ADD ROUTE FIVE OR THE ONE HOUR SERVICE OF ROUTE SIX PLUS THE TWO TIMES IN THE MORNING, TWO TIMES IN THE EVENING TO EMBARK.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE TIMES ARE? UM, IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE TO WHAT THEIR, THE MORNING ROUTES ARE RIGHT NOW.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS BASICALLY WE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING THAT NEW ROUTE IN SERVICE UNTIL THE A HUNDRED X CAME BACK.
I THINK THE FIRST ONE LEAVES HERE LIKE 5 55 IN THE MORNING.
THE SECOND OPTION, WHICH WOULD, THIS IS WHERE WE START ADDING FUNDS.
THE SECTION SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE 100 X, BUT ADD BOTH ROUTE FIVE AND TWO ROUTE BUSES ON ROUTE SIX WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD PAUL IT EVERY 30 MINUTES.
AND THAT COST WOULD BE $235,000 FOR THE REMAINING PART OF THIS YEAR.
IF WE ADD, IF WE WANT THOSE TWO NEW ROUTES, WE CAN EITHER TAKE THE OPTION OF GOING TWO TRIPS DOWN TO EMBARK OR THERE IS A STOP AT BRITAIN AND BROADWAY THAT IS CURRENTLY SERVED BY, BY EMBARK.
UM, AND WE COULD ALSO, THERE'S AN OPTION TO GO DOWN TO BRITAIN AND BROADWAY IN THE MORNING, TWICE IN THE MORNING, TWICE IN THE EVENING.
AND THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL $22,000 A MONTH OR I MEAN, SORRY, FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
SO I HEARD YOU BRING UP THAT QUESTION.
WHEN YOU HAD THE SYMPOSIUM ACROSS THE STREET, HOW WAS THAT RECEIVED? UM, FOR THE MOST PART, EVERYBODY HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD DO IT.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD PREFER TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO EMBARK.
UM, OUT OF ALL THE 40 COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, IT'S GOING DOWN INTO DOWNTOWN AREA.
IT'S, IT'S EASIER FOR SOME, UM, BUT THEY WOULD DO IT IF IT STILL ENABLED THEM TO RIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY AND WE WOULD WORK WITH EMBARK.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A FIXED ROUTE OF THEIRS.
UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE AWARE OF ANY CHANGES THEY MAKE AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING THEIR CHANGES AS WELL.
AND SO WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE AND COORDINATE WITH THAT.
UM, ALL, ALL OUR OPTIONS IF WE WANNA ADD ROUTE FIVE AND ROUTE SIX WITH MINIMAL CHANGES TO OR OR TO SOME CHANGES 200 X IN THE YEARS TO COME, IT'S GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUDGETED FOR OUR SYSTEM.
UM, THE, SOME OF THE OTHER ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR A HUNDRED X, WE HAVE BEEN, UM, WE SAT WITH ENTERPRISE COMMUTE LAST WEEK AND LEARNED ABOUT THE VAN POOLING.
UM, THEY'RE JUST STARTING IT WITH EMBARK IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SOME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
RATHER THE EMPLOYER OF THE, UM, WRITER PICKS UP PART OF THE COST.
UH, I KNOW EMBARK IS SHARING SOME OF THE COST, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT THEY'RE SHARING AROUND 4,000 THOUSAND DOLLARS OR IF THE CITY OF EDMOND WOULD LIKE TO ABSORB THAT COST.
UM, BUT ADDITION, BUT SOME EMPLOYERS HAVE HAD IT AT NO FEE AND SOME HAVE HAD IT AT A MINOR FEE.
UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THAT IS SET UP.
BUT THAT IS SET UP WITH A CAPTAIN THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VAN OF THE VAN OR THE CAR RENTED THROUGH ENTERPRISE.
THEY HAVE TO QUALIFY, BE AT LEAST 25 YEARS OF AGE.
UM, AND THEN THEY SET UP THE, UM, CONTRACT WITH ENTERPRISE AND THEY BASICALLY TAKE THE VEHICLE HOME AND THEN THEY COORDINATE WITH THOSE RIDERS IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING TO.
DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE SAME EMPLOYER.
IT COULD BE A VARIETY OF EMPLOYERS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT IT IS AN OPTION, UM, THAT EMBARK IS WORKING WITH CURRENTLY.
UM, THE OTHER OPTION IS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH EMBARK ON A MORE REGIONAL SOLUTION.
UM, NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE JUST YET, UM, BUT IT MAY HAVE AN EFFECT ON, UM, OUR ALLOCATION THAT WE GET FROM THEM.
SO WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC COMMENTS OPEN SINCE SEPTEMBER 9TH.
THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS SEPTEMBER 8TH AT THE ED ADMIN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
IT WAS POSTED IN THE OKLAHOMAN ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE BUSES, UM, IN, IN OUR AND OUR CITY WEBSITE OF THESE CHANGES, WE RECEIVED ABOUT 40 COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE PUBLIC ON THE HUNDRED X.
MOST OF THEM THAT THIS IS THEIR ONLY WAY OF GETTING DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY TO WORK.
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THAT THEY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS, BUT THEY PREFER TO USE THIS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, THE PARKING, ET CETERA.UM, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME UCO STUDENTS THAT VISIT HAVE, THERE'S TWO CAMPUSES DOWN IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
THIS IS THEIR ONLY WAY TO GET TO OKLAHOMA CITY.
WE ALSO DID RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS ON, UH, PRIMARILY ROUTE FOUR OF THE, THE ONE STOP AT THE NIGHT CENTER WHERE WE RECEIVED ABOUT 20 COMMENTS ON IT FOR IT OR AGAINST IT, PARDON ME, COMMENTS FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.
UM, THEY DID NOT WANT US TO TAKE THE STOP AWAY AT THE NIGHT CENTER.
ABOUT THE PROPOSED STOP WOULD BE ABOUT 600 FEET SOUTH AT FEED PARK, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THEY JUST WANTED TO BE DROPPED OFF AT THE NIGHT CENTER.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GIVE THAT FEEDBACK TO UCL.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO END BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND, AND IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WE DO HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE PARATRANSIT SERVICE.
AND THAT IS A DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE THAT WE OFFER TO THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT CANNOT, UM, RIDE OR DRIVE AND RIDE.
BECAUSE IF THEY CAN'T RIDE A FIXED ROUTE, THEY NEED ASSISTANCE OF SOME SORTS.
AND JUST A REMINDER, ALL OUR ROUTES ARE FAIR FREE AND THIS SERVICE IS FAIR FREE AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE BY REGULATION, HAVE TO SERVE THREE QUARTER OF A MILE FROM A FIXED BUS ROUTE.
UM, THAT IS THE HATCHED MARK RIGHT HERE BY INCREASING OUR ROUTES WITH FIVE AND SIX, THE GRAY OR THE PURPLE, UM, THAT WOULD BE A MORE POPULATION THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO SERVE DOOR TO DOOR.
I HAVE A RESIDENT THAT CALLS ME ABOUT EVERY THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
SHE LIVES AT 33RD AND COLTRANE AREA.
UM, AND SHE WILL NOW BE ABLE TO BE SERVED.
UM, SHE HAS BEEN HOME BOUND, UM, AND SHE WILL NOW BE ABLE TO JUST BE SERVED WITH THAT IF WE DO.
UM, AND YOU DO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
SO IT'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE AS WELL.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
CHRISTIE, WHAT TYPE OF COMMENTS WHEN THE PROPOSED CHANGES JUST TO REDUCE 100 X TO AM AND PM SERVICES, HOW WAS THAT RECEIVED? THAT WAS RECEIVED, UH, FAIRLY WELL IF WE COULD GET IT LINED UP WITH, OF COURSE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE THERE BY 7, 7 30, 8 O'CLOCK.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO BE THERE AFTER THAT.
SO IT'S JUST FINDING THAT BALANCE OF WHEN IT WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE, OF THE POPULATION OR THE MAJORITY OF THE WRITERS THAT WOULD GO DOWN.
CHRISTY, YOU HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT DRIVERS OR EQUIPMENT THAT, THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE COMMITTEE OF THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
WAS, IS WHAT? WE'RE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH DRIVERS AND WE'RE STRUGGLING GETTING EQUIPMENT AND 600 IS VERY, VERY EQUIPMENT AND DRIVER INTENSIVE.
UM, AND SO IF WE CONTINUE TO DO ANY 100 X IT DOES FURTHER, I GUESS PUT STRESS ON OUR DRIVER SITUATION AND OUR EQUIPMENT, OUR BUSES.
AND EVEN WITH THE, THE ADJUSTMENT STAFF, HUNDRED X, WE WOULD BE USING THE BUSES FOR FIVE AND SIX.
SO WE BASICALLY BE SERVING THE A HUNDRED X OR THE DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY AREA AND THEN COMING IN AND PUTTING THOSE ROUTES INTO SERVICE.
UM, AND UH, COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN IS CORRECT.
WE'RE LIKE TWO TO TWO AND A HALF YEARS OUT OF GETTING BUS REPLACEMENTS.
WE ARE STARTING TO HIT THE END OF LIFE ON OUR BUSES AND OR THE INCREASE OF MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE GONNA FURTHER OUR COST TO INCREASE.
UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'VE GOT SPARES, BUT IF WE HAVE TO PUT THOSE SPARES INTO SERVICE ONE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SPARE.
AND THEN TWO, LIKE I SAID, THE LIFE OF THESE BUSES, WE'RE GETTING TO THE LIMIT DRIVERS.
WE'RE STARTING TO GET MORE DRIVERS.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WHAT I PROPOSED THIS EVENING OR WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IS WITH WHAT CAPITAL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT DRIVERS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO TELL ME HOW IT WAS, UM, WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT TAKING IT TO BRIT AND BROADWAY.
I KNOW THERE'S A FEW HERE THIS EVENING, SO I'LL LET THEM REALLY, DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT TIMING WORKS OUT? YEAH.
HAVE YOU LOOKED? IT ACTUALLY WORKS OUT FAIRLY WELL.
IT'S, IT'S, I THINK, UM, THEY, THEY'RE UP THERE AROUND THE SEVEN O'CLOCK TIMEFRAME.
I DIDN'T WRITE THE EXACT TIME AGAIN, BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.
UM, OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR R ATP DEV HAS LOOKED AT IT AND HE THINKS WE CAN HIT IT.
THE, I WILL SAY THE OTHER THING IS IT IS JUST A STOP.
THERE IS NO BENCH AND THERE IS NO SHELTER.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH EMBARK TO YOU TO PUT SOMETHING THERE AS FAR AS A, A FACILITY OF SOME SORT, WHETHER IT BE A, A BENCH OR IT BE A SHELTER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DECEMBER SOMETHING FOR THIS CHANGE.
IS THAT, IS IT REALISTIC TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT? IF WE WOULD DO ANY, WE WOULD PROBABLY PUSH TO THE JANUARY 2ND ON EVERYTHING
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JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING LINED UP.WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL BUS STOPS.
WE HAVE TO ADD ABOUT 10 BUS STOPS FOR THE ROUTE SIX, UM, AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON SOME OTHER ONES.
UM, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WORKING WITH, UM, TYLER MEDIA OUTDOOR ADVERTISING ON THE BENCH AND WITH EMBARK AS WELL.
CUZ IT'S THEIR SYSTEM OF POTENTIALLY ADDING A BENCH IF WE WOULD DO THE BRITAIN.
UM, EVERYTHING'S ALREADY SET IF WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY.
THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.
TRANSFERRING FROM ONE SYSTEM TO THE OTHER.
UH, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A GLITCH IN ONE, THE, THE, THE RIDER DOESN'T GET THERE, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE DIFFICULT.
AND WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THAT TRANSPORTATION, UM, TO, TO SWITCH SYSTEMS, UH, I JUST KNOW PERSONALLY CUZ UNTIL I MOVED TO OKLAHOMA, I RODE PUBLIC TRANS IN TH IN TWO OTHER STATES AND TRYING, EVEN WHEN YOU TRANSFER WITHIN THE SYSTEM, YOU SOMETIMES HAVE GLITCHES, BUT THEN WHEN YOU WANNA TRANSFER OUTSIDE YOUR SYSTEM, UH, THAT COULD, THAT, THAT COULD BE, UM, A STRUGGLE.
BUT IT'S STILL HELPFUL FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GET, IT WOULD STILL PROVIDE THEM A WAY TO GET TO THEIR EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY? YES, MA'AM.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NUMBER PROJECTIONS.
SO ADDING ROOTS FIVE AND SIX ADDS ABOUT 282,000 FOR SIX MONTHS YES.
AND THEN IF WE ELIMINATE 100 X ALTOGETHER, IT'S 175.
175 WAS OUR COST SAVINGS OF, OF NOT.
SO IF WE WOULD DO NOTHING AND JUST ELIMINATE 101 HUNDRED X, WE WOULD SAVE $175,000 A YEAR FOR, FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO WE'RE EVEN WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED, OUR BUDGET IS INCREASING.
AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT ONE OF THOSE OTHER TWO OPTIONS, THE 22,000 GOING TO BRITAIN OR TWO ROUTES OF A HUNDRED X, THAT'S 55.
SO THAT REDUCES THAT $174,000 SAVINGS.
AND SOME OF THAT GOES TO ROUTE FIVE BECAUSE ROUTE FIVE'S ALREADY BEING SERVED BY THE A HUNDRED X THAT, THAT HALF BEFORE IT LEAVES EDMOND MM-HMM.
SO IT'S JUST MORE OFTEN HOW, HOW OFTEN WOULD BRITAIN AND BROADWAY BE, WE'RE PROPOSING EITHER TO, WE ARE PROPOSING EITHER TWO TIMES IN THE MORNING, TWO TIMES IN THE EVENING, OR ONE IN ONE.
WHAT WAS THE 22,000? 22,000 IS TO BRITAIN.
AND THAT'S TWO AND TWO TWO AND TWO TWO.
JUST CHECK WE DID SOMEBODY SHAKE THEIR HEAD? YES.
SO THERE'S STILL, I I GUESS I'M, THERE'S STILL THE $175,000 SAVINGS EVEN IF WE ADD BACK IN.
SO IF WE, BUT BUT IT'S WHATEVER THAT COST TO ADD IT BACK IN, IT REDUCES THE SAVINGS BY THAT AMOUNT.
AND THEN IF WE WANNA ADD THE FIVE AND SIX, OR IF WE WANNA ADD BOTH OF THEM WITH THE TWO BUSES ON SIX OB LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOES INCREASE OUR COST ANNUALLY, UM, IN THE FUTURE.
OR WE CAN JUST DO ONE OPTION AND WE CAN DO THE BRITAIN WITH A BU WITH A VAN.
CAN WE DO THAT? WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A VAN THAT WOULD UTILIZE TO DO THAT.
WE WOULD DO IT WITH ONE OF OUR SMALLER BUSES OR WE WOULD DO IT.
THAT STILL, THAT STILL REQUIRES A CDL.
CORRECT? THE VANS NOT OUR, OUR VANS, OUR VANS ARE PRIMARILY USED FOR PARATRANSIT.
UM, AND OUR BIGGEST VAN IS ONLY A NINE PASSENGER VAN.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT? NO, NOT FOR, FOR THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP.
HOW DID THE, HOW MUCH DID THE COMMITTEE DISCUSS BRI BROADWAY? I WOULD SAY QUITE A BIT.
AND TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A CITIZEN COMMITTEE, UM, THAT WE HAVE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
UM, THE, THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF I THINK THE CITIZENS WAS THAT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF RIDERSHIP THAT WE WERE GONNA GROW IN FIVE AND SIX AND THE COST THAT IT WAS GONNA TAKE YOU THROWING THEIR, THE EQUIPMENT AND THE DRIVERS, IT JUST DID NOT SEEM FEASIBLE TO DO ANY, TO DO MUCH AT ALL SERVICING OKLAHOMA CITY, CONSIDERING ALL EVERYTHING.
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23, 24, 25 ON DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT BUDGETARY NEEDS WOULD BE NE NECESSARY IF WE EVEN WITH, WITH, WITH THE OPTIONS OF 1 0 1 FOR 100 X OR TWO AND TWO OR ANY OF THOSE? DID WE DO THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS? WELL, I, I MEAN, SO OBVIOUSLY OUR COSTS INCREASE EVERY YEAR MM-HMM.AND WE CANNOT, UM, WE CAN'T DOUBLE STACK OUR FEDERAL MONEY.
UM, I DON'T LEAVE ANY MONEY ON THE TABLE.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE COULD TRY THAT WAY.
WE'VE HAD PARTNERS, BUT AGAIN, AS WITH UCO AND WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE THAT WE DON'T SERVE ANY, WELL, ANY LONGER AS WELL, THOSE CONTRACTS AND THEY HAVE A LIFESPAN.
SO IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A DATA KID SALES TAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO TRANSIT.
I THINK I DID MENTION TO Y'ALL THAT WE DO USED TO SUBSIDIZE THIS WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY STOP AS WELL, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE MONEY FOR UCO THAT WENT AWAY.
AND SO THE, THE PROJECTIONS TO THE FUTURE DO NOT LOOK GOOD.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER FOR US AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE'VE GOT, I THINK OUR COMMITTEE JUST THOUGHT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE SOME ACTION NOW TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO GET THIS THING SUSTAINABLE FOR THE FUTURE.
AND SERVING A COMMUNITY THAT, UM, IS NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION, SO TO SPEAK, UM, PROBABLY IS NOT GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO LONG TERM.
BUT I MEAN, WE DO HAVE WRITERS IN EDMOND WHO ARE COMMUTING TO JOBS OKLAHOMA CITY.
RIGHT? AND, AND WE ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MANY OKAY.
AND WE, WE ANALYZED ALL THAT AND FRANKLY WE HEARD FROM MOST OF THEM, THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION.
I FEEL SORRY FOR THE CITIZENS ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT, THAT HAD TO, UH, DEBATE THIS.
UM, ANYTIME YOU TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT GOOD.
THE, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE ARE ABLE TO ADD BACK A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER VALUE IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO.
THAT, AND THAT, AND THAT COMES BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, THAT IS UNDERSERVED THAT WE'VE GOT TO SERVE IN THE, FOR THE FUTURE.
THERE'S NO SERVICE TO THE EAST RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? NO MA'AM.
SO MERCY OR INTEGRIS ARE NOT BEING SERVICED AT ALL.
WELL, AND NOTION OF OUR LARGEST EMPLOYERS.
BUT THE, WHAT REALLY OPENED MY EYES WAS THE PARA TRANSIT TOO, WITH THAT RULE WITH THEN THIS IS THE MAP, ISN'T IT? MM-HMM.
CHRISTY, CAN YOU TALK, MAYBE IT'S RANDY QUESTION AS WELL.
WE TALK ABOUT 100 X AND THAT'S THAT ROUTE BETWEEN HERE AND DOWNTOWN.
HOW WOULD RTA AND THE ROUTE THAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING AND IMPACT THAT, WOULD THAT PROVIDE AN AUGMENT INSTEAD OF DOING A BUS ROUTE IF RTA COMES IN, WOULD THEY SERVE THAT NEED? YEAH, THAT WOULD TOTALLY REPLACE THAT ROUTE.
THAT COMMUTER RAIL HAPPENS BETWEEN OKLAHOMA CITY DOWN OR DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY AND DOWNTOWN EDMOND.
UH, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD SERVE, WOULD BE THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES.
UH, WOULD THE FREQUENCY BE MORE THAN TWO TIMES A DAY OR WHATEVER IT WOULD BE.
THEY HAVEN'T QUITE GOT TO THAT LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SUPER DEFINITIVELY.
BUT YES, IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE FREQUENT AND LATER INTO THE EVENING, EARLIER IN THE MORNING, MORE THAN LIKELY, LIKE 12 TO 14 TIMES POSSIBLY.
AND A DAY, A LOT FEWER STOPS AS WELL.
SO IT'S A LOT FASTER, MORE EXPRESS ROUTE.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT A DATE'S BEEN ANNOUNCED ON THAT.
I KNOW IT'S, UH, THE RTA IS, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, WHAT THEY CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, WHICH IS WHAT WILL SET THEM UP FOR FEDERAL FUNDING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE, I MEAN, BEING CONSERVATIVE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS OF A VOTE, BEING HELD ON THAT, THAT'S JUST A VOTE.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE IMPLEMENTATION.
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TAKES A LOT OF PLANNING FOR THE, FOR EVERYONE.THE RTAS REGIONAL TRANSIT, UH, THERE'S THREE MAIN CITIES THAT CURRENTLY ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT.
EDMOND, OKLAHOMA CITY AND NORMAN, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER SMALLER CITIES HAVE PULLED OUT FROM THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE ARE STILL, UH, LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE WE DO SEE THE NEED, UH, TO TRAVERSE THIS CORRIDOR AS, UH, EXPEDITION AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT IS ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALSO TAKING IN CONSIDERATION.
UH, DOESN'T MEET THE IMMEDIATE NEED, BUT IT THAT RTAS AS THE, WE SAID IT WILL GO TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE RIGHT NOW? YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, 10 YEARS ISH.
SO THIS IS A PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW.
UM, ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
I AM A LONG TERM RESIDENT OF EDMOND.
MY FAMILY GOES BACK TO STATEHOOD IN EDMOND.
UH, SO IT IS NOT A PLACE THAT I TAKE LIGHTLY.
I KNOW THAT YOUR HEARTS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THINGS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND, AND I CREDIT CHRISTIE, SHE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND SHE AND I HAVE COMMUNICATED, AND WHILE WE DIFFER SLIGHTLY, WE DO NOT DISAGREE ON THE BASICS.
THERE IS A NEED FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND WE ARE BOTH ADVOCATES OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
HOW WE GET THERE, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MATTER.
AND IF WE COULD WRITE A CHECK, THAT WOULD SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS. BUT THE PROBLEMS ARE FINANCIAL.
AS MANY IN GOVERNMENTS SAY, OFTEN, UH, GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE RUN LIKE A BUSINESS THAT'S GARBAGE.
BUSINESS IS RUN TO MAKE A PROFIT.
GOVERNMENT IS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICE.
I DON'T DOUBT THE NEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
I RAN A BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN WORKING IN OKLAHOMA CITY GOVERNMENT FOR THE LAST 12.
SO I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS. LET'S LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.
I'VE HEARD THE TERM, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SERVE OKLAHOMA CITY.
YOU'RE NOT SERVING OKLAHOMA CITY.
YOU'RE SERVING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN EDMONT.
YOU'RE SERVING YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
YOU'RE NOT SERVING OKLAHOMA CITY.
YOU'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET TO THEIR JOBS.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE BUT MYSELF, BUT THE DAY AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I WAS CORNERED BOTH TIMES.
I WAS ON THE BUS WITH PEOPLE WHO SAID I COULDN'T GO TO THE MEETING BECAUSE I HAD TO BE AT WORK.
WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT'D YOU HEAR? WHAT'D YOU SAY? AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL RETIRE BECAUSE THE A HUNDRED X GOES AWAY.
THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WILL MOVE OUT OF EDMOND BECAUSE THE A HUNDRED X IS GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE CLOSER TO THEIR WORK.
SO THERE'S AN EFFECT THAT YOU'LL HAVE ON THE ADMIN TAX BASE WHEN THE A HUNDRED X GOES AWAY.
AND I SAY WHEN? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DIRECTION THIS IS GOING.
I WOULD DIFFER WITH CHRISTIE ON ONE THING.
THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING RIDERSHIP OF THE A HUNDRED X, WHAT I SAW WAS FISCAL YEAR 19 AND 20, WHICH WAS HALF OF IT WAS, OR THREE FORCE OF IT WAS WHEN COVID WAS STARTED.
WE WERE STILL FEELING THE DIRECT EFFECTS OF COVID.
YOUR BUSINESSES MAY NOT HAVE CLOSED, BUT EVEN OFFICES IN OKLAHOMA CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICES WERE CLOSED DURING THAT TIME.
AND THEN YOU HAVE FISCAL YEAR 21, 22, WHICH IS A PARTIAL YEAR FOR THOSE NUMBERS I SUBMIT TO YOU.
BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE'VE FACED OVER THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS, THOSE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY NOT ACCURATE FOR YOU TO MAKE THE KIND OF FORECASTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
IT MIGHT BE MORE PRUDENT TO WAIT NOW.
THINGS ARE NOT BACK TO NORMAL.
THEY'LL NEVER BE BACK TO NORMAL BUT PEOPLE ARE
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COMING BACK FROM REMOTE WORKING.THOSE PEOPLE NOW, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, THEY WILL BE COUNTED.
AND I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS ON THE A HUNDRED X WILL SHOW THAT.
NOW, IF YOU'RE READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER, YOU'RE READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER.
BUT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE ARE SKEWED FROM, FROM WHAT I BELIEVE THE ACCURATE NUMBERS ARE.
IT MAY BE ABOUT NUMBERS, BUT FOR THOSE WHO RIDE THE BUS, IT'S NOT ABOUT NUMBERS, IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE.
I CAN REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT CHRISTIE HAS DONE BECAUSE WHEN SHE AND I FIRST WERE TALKING, THE A HUNDRED X WAS GOING AWAY AND THERE WERE NOT ANY OTHER OPTIONS REALLY BEING DISCUSSED.
IT'S A LEGITIMATE OPTION TO IN BEFORE YOU START RUNNING THAT SIX OUT THERE, WHEN THINGS ARE CLOSED, YOU RUN THAT SIX DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY AND BACK TWICE IN THE MORNINGS.
WHAT TIME EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO SAID JUST RUN 'EM AND WE'LL ADJUST TO THE TIME.
IF THAT MEANS BEING AT THE BUS STOP AT SIX 30 IN THE MORNING, THEY'RE WILLING TO BE AT THE BUS STOP AT SIX 30 IN THE MORNING.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM FIVE AND SIX IN THE MORNING.
HAVE TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT IN THE AFTERNOON.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU ALL GET PAID SO MUCH.
THE UH, THE ISSUE ON THAT IS BALANCING SERVICE AND TWO RUNS IN THE AFTERNOON.
OKAY? I BELIEVE THAT THE RIDERSHIP CAN JUSTIFY THAT.
MAYBE NOT THE NUMBERS OR AT LEAST THE NUMBERS YOU'RE WORKING WITH, BUT I BELIEVE THE RIDERSHIP CAN JUSTIFY THAT CUZ YOU CAN STILL RUN SIX, BUT YOU ALSO CAN RUN THE HUNDRED.
NOW YOUR MAYOR HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REGARDING THE PROBLEM IN BRITAIN.
I THINK IT'S GREAT IF YOU'VE GOT A PERFECTLY RUN SYSTEM WHERE IF YOU SAY, SAY IT'S GONNA BE THERE AT THIS TIME, YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE AT THIS TIME, BUT, AND CHRISTIE GOT THESE PHONE CALLS FROM ME OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE RIDDEN.
WHERE'S THE BUS? IT'S A HALF HOUR LATE.
WELL, THAT CREATES A PROBLEM IF I'M, I CAN AFFORD TO BE LOOSE IN MY TIME, BUT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T, SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD FOR WHATEVER GETS THEM TO BRITAIN GETTING THERE FIVE MINUTES LATE AND THEY MISS THAT CONNECTION.
OR ON A COLD, RAINY DAY STANDING OUT THERE WAITING FOR A HALF HOUR ON THAT NEXT BUS FROM EMBARK.
AND BELIEVE ME, THE PROBLEMS YOU MAY ALL HAVE HAD WITH RUNNING THE EDMUND SYSTEM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY SYSTEM.
IF THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE, PEOPLE WILL DO IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE OTHER GLITCHES THAT MAY BE UNINTENDED, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING.
SO I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR ME BECAUSE NOBODY HAS TOLD ME THAT I SHOULD SPEAK FOR THEM.
I ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR LIVELIHOODS.
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES.
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEMSELVES, AND COVID HAS KNOCKED A BODY BLOW TO EVERYBODY.
BUT IF YOUR ONLY WAY TO GET TO WORK IS RIDING THE BUS AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THAT, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU ALL SWO TO WHEN YOU BECAME CITY COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR, BUT YOU WERE GOING TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND.
DON'T BE A SLAVE TO DOLLARS AND CENTS.
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, LOOK AT THE REALISTIC NUMBERS, GOOD, BAD, OR OTHERWISE.
CONSIDER MAYBE DEFERRING THIS TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN, IN 22.
OR, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE OPTION OF RUNNING TWO LINES AND THEN RECONSIDER AT THE END OF THE YEAR OF THAT, SEE WHAT THE RIDERSHIP IS NOW THAT MORE PEOPLE HAVE COME BACK FROM THEIR REMOTE WORKING WORK WITH HARD NUMBERS.
I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBERS FROM YOUR COMMITTEE, BUT THERE WAS NOBODY, WELL, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WAS NOBODY RIGHT FROM THE RIDERSHIP BECAUSE WE WERE ALL WORKING WHILE YOUR COMMITTEES WERE WORKING.
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LOOK AT WHAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO.CHRISTIAN AND I TALKED ABOUT THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, SO JUST CONSIDER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SCOTT.
UH, ALSO WE'LL SAY OUR MEETINGS ARE IN THE E OR IN THE LATE AFTERNOONS, BUT WE DID HAVE A LOT OF, UH, TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE EVENINGS TOO WITH EDMUND SHIFT.
SO WE DID HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I AM AN EDMOND RESIDENT AND A PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA.
AND I TAKE THE A HUNDRED X PLUS TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY, JUST AS I DID WHEN I WORKED AT A UNIVERSITY IN WASHINGTON DC AND JUST AS I DID WHEN I WAS A COLLEGE STUDENT IN PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER OWNED A CAR IN THE SUMMERS WHEN I'M NOT TEACHING.
I TAKE THE A HUNDRED X TO THE BOAT HOUSES ON THE OKLAHOMA RIVER WHERE I TEACH THE SPORT OF ROWING TO ATHLETES IN THE KC METRO AREA FROM SIXTH GRADERS TO PEOPLE IN THEIR SIXTIES AND BEYOND.
I TAKE THE BUS TO THE POST OFFICE, THE PHARMACY, THE GYNECOLOGIST, THE LIBRARY.
I TOOK IT TO THE ONLY SITE WHERE I COULD GET A PCR TEST TO CONFIRM THAT I WAS COVID FREE BEFORE WELCOMING MY PARENTS INTO MY HOME AFTER I WAS TURNED AWAY FROM A LOCAL DRIVE THROUGH TESTING SITE BECAUSE I ARRIVED ON FOOT.
THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS WHY A PERSON MIGHT CHOOSE TO OR HAVE TO TAKE THE BUS AND MINE ARE AMONG THEM.
THESE INCLUDE FINANCIAL, MEDICAL, SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS TO NAME A FEW.
THE ELIMINATION OF THE A HUNDRED X WOULD SEVER THE SOLE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR CITY AND DOWNTOWN OKC.
PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO RELY ON IT FOR OUR LIVELIHOODS WOULD BE AT WORST, FUNCTIONALLY REMOVED FROM OUR ADMIN AND OKC COMMUNITIES AT BEST, FORCED TO MAKE THE EXPENSIVE AND DANGEROUS DECISION TO DRIVE A PERSONAL VEHICLE.
BUT JUST LIKE I TEACH MY PSYCHOLOGY STUDENTS, DECISION MAKERS SHOULDN'T BE SWAYED BY A COMPELLING STORY, EVEN IF IT'S MY STORY.
INSTEAD, WE SHOULD CONSULT THE DATA AND WE DIDN'T LOOK ANY FURTHER THAN CITY LINK'S OWN WEBSITE ON A PAGE TITLED BENEFITS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
COMPARED TO CARS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS SAFER, CHEAPER, BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, CREATES JOBS AND YIELDS HEALTHIER CITIZENS.
THESE CLAIMS ARE SUPPORTED BY DATA FROM GOVERNMENT ENTITIES LIKE THE BUREAU OF TRANSPORTATION STATISTICS, NONPROFITS LIKE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION, AND THE PUBLISHED EMPIRICAL WORK OF ACADEMICS.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PRESERVE THE HUNDRED X ROUTE BY DENYING TODAY'S PROPOSAL.
COME ON DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL UNIVERSITY.
I'VE LIVED IN ADMIN FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
MOVED HERE FROM DENVER, WHERE EVEN MY KIDS YOU RODE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
THERE WAS NO SCHOOL BUSES, SO WE WERE VERY USED TO IT.
NOW THAT WE LIVE IN EDMOND, THEY'VE MOVED OUT, BUT I'M STILL THERE.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT AND I USE THAT 100 X AS OFTEN AS I CAN.
MY DAUGHTER TAKES WHO LIVES WITH ME, TAKES OUR GRANDSON TO, UH, THE SIOUX SCHOOL MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY.
SO I GET A RIDE INTO TOWN, BUT I CAN'T GET HOME TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.
I RIDE BOTH WAYS UNLESS A FRIEND OFFERS ME A RIDE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY STAY ALL NIGHT, TAKE ME TO WORK, IT'D BE OKAY.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.
THE WAY IT WORKS IS WE NEED THAT CONSISTENCY.
AND I COULD NOT PUT IT ANY MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN MY CO-WRITER BACK HERE.
DID YOU NEED A FACE TO PUT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MONEY? AND I DO AGREE, AND I ASKED STAFF, UH, CHRISTY PARTICULARLY IF SHE COULD PUT TOGETHER THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW MOST OF US WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK REMOTELY DURING COVID.
I WORKED AT HOME FOR TWO YEARS, DIDN'T COME BACK INTO THE OFFICE UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.
SO REALLY, MY NUMBERS ONLY STARTED COUNTING AGAIN IN MAY.
SO YOU ENDED COUNTING YOUR NUMBERS, RIDERSHIP NUMBERS FOR THE 100 EGGS JUNE THE 30TH.
I ASKED STAFF TO PUT IT TOGETHER,
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TELL US FROM MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER WHAT THE RIDERSHIP MEMBERS WERE.BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU, I SIT THERE, I SEE PEOPLE, IT'S NOT AN EMPTY BUS.
AND I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT A MINI, BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MANY TRIPS DOWNTOWN DOES THE EDMOND CITY LINK MAKE? I HEARD IT WAS 12.
HOW MANY TRIPS? NOW, IF IT RUNS EVERY HOUR AND A HALF, IT'S ABOUT 12.
OKAY, WELL, YOU'RE MAKING 12 TRIPS IF YOU PUT TWO IN THE MORNING, TWO IN THE EVENING AND COMBINE ALL THOSE PEOPLE, AND I'M SURE I SEE THE BUS DRIVER TALLY EVERY TIME SOMEONE GETS ON TALLY, EVERY TIME SOMEONE GETS OFF, THE NUMBERS ARE THERE.
AND AND I WOULD REALLY PRAY THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THOSE NUMBERS AND REASSESS.
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.
AND I'M FINALLY, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT SOMEONE ACTUALLY STOOD UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SERVING OKLAHOMA CITY.
THIS IS SERVING YOUR RESIDENTS, YOUR CONSTITUENCIES, YOUR FOLKS WHO VOTE FOR YOU, WHICHEVER WARD YOU LIVE IN, AND WHO SPEND OUR MONEY BUYING GROCERIES HERE, GETTING OUR TIRES FIXED, GOING TO THE PHARMACY, GETTING GAS.
WE SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS HERE.
AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT BEING DISCOUNTED OR OVERLOOKED.
AND IT KIND OF, UH, HURTS MY FEELINGS THAT YOU WOULD CANALIZE A LINE TO SERVE SOMETHING ELSE.
TAKING THAT MONEY THAT YOU PROVIDE TO FOLKS WHO WORK DOWNTOWN, NEED TO GO INTO OKLAHOMA CITY, BUT LIVE HERE, SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS HERE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THAT AWAY FROM FOLKS WHO OBVIOUSLY NEED IT.
AND AS THE PREVIOUS COMMENT ARE MADE, THEY'RE SCARED.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A CAR.
HELL, I CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO BUY A CAR.
SO I DO KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE FEELING.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FACE TO PUT WITH THE NUMBERS THAT MAYBE THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ARE NOT CORRECT.
AND I BEG STAFF TO DO THAT IN THE PROCESS.
YOU, THERE'S NOT NEAR AS MANY HERE AS SHOWED UP AT THE SEPTEMBER 27TH MEETING.
UM, BUT THIS IS A PRETTY FRIGHTFUL PLACE.
WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE TWO TRIPS IN THE MORNING, TWO TRIPS BACK TO EDMONDS SO WE CAN COME HERE, GO OUT TO RESTAURANTS AND SUPPORT OUR CITY THAT WE LOVE.
WE'RE NOT OKLAHOMA CITY HEIGHTS, WE ARE EDMUND HEIGHTS.
SO PLEASE KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I THINK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND WE DO NOT WANT THIS PLACE TO BE A SCARY PLACE FOR, FOR CITIZENS TO COME BACK, BUT WE UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS
INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US TO SEE ME.
I LIVE AT EDMOND AND I, I, THESE ARE GREAT SPEECHES AND EVERYTHING.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN, BUT I WANT TO BE A FACE FOR THE NUMBERS.
AND I DO SEE SOME PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET AND I ASK THEM TO JOIN AND BE THAT FACE FOR THE NUMBERS.
UM, ONE THING THAT I SEE HERE AS LIKE MY OWN LITTLE PERSONAL COMMENT IS THAT WE DON'T, ONE BENEFIT OF THIS BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY IS THAT WE'RE NOT DRIVING IN TO CITY.
I MEAN, EVERYONE HERE, EIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK, IT'S A GRIDLOCK ON BROADWAY.
AND JUST IMAGINE THIS ONE BUS.
THAT'S WHAT, MAYBE 20 PEOPLE WHO CAN BUY A CAR.
UM, THAT'S 20 ADDITIONAL CARS.
THAT'S, I WASN'T, I DUNNO HOW MANY ROUTES IT WAS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT Y'ALL TO CONSIDER, THAT US TAKING THE BUSES, REDUCING THE TRAFFIC, AND REDUCING THE DAMAGE ON THE ROADS.
I'M NICK DGA AND A CITIZEN OF, UH, EDMOND.
UH, MY HUSBAND TAKES THE THE BUS TO OKLAHOMA CITY EVERY DAY FOR WORK.
HE GOES TO THE VA AND HE TAKES IT EVERY DAY.
SO IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR OUR FAMILY.
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UM, SORRY FOR MY BOYSUM, BUT, UM, IT, I I REALLY WOULD NOT WANT IT, UM, THE BUS TO BE ELIMINATED.
I THINK WE COULD HOPEFULLY WORK, UH, FOR A SOLUTION OR MAYBE FOR TWO, UH, BUSES TO GO IN THE MORNING AND TWO BUSES TO, UH, COME BACK AT NIGHT LIKE THE REST SAID.
SO I HOPE YOU TAKE IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN EDMOND AND GO TO WORK AND COME BACK AND, AND SO, YES, VERY GOOD.
ANYONE ELSE? COUNSEL? MAYOR, I WOULD SAY, UH, THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN A MODEL OF A WAY TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION AT A CITY COUNCIL, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR MM-HMM.
I APPRECIATE ALL, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE OUR JOB ANY EASIER, BY THE WAY, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU IN THE WAY THAT YOU EXPRESSED YOURSELF.
I WANTED, I WANTED TO SPEAK, UM, TO THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS FROM MAY TO SEPTEMBER.
UM, OUT OF OUR ALL OUR ROUTES ROUTE, THE 100 EXIT THAT SHE IS CORRECTED HAS NOT REBOUNDED SINCE COVID.
UM, IT'S BEEN ON A STEADY DECLINE SINCE 2015.
UM, AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE THE NUMBERS WITH ME.
UM, IT AVERAGES ABOUT TWO, UH, 2,500 PASSENGER TRIPS A MONTH AND HAS BEEN STEADY THROUGHOUT THE MADE OF SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME.
SO IT HAS NOT REBOUNDED YET SINCE MAY.
UM, THE, OUR, ALL OUR OTHER ROUTES, OUR ROUTES ONE THROUGH FOUR ARE STARTING TO, TO REBOUND PRE COVID NUMBERS, INCLUDING THE ROUTE FOUR ROUTE, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY OUR HIGHEST ROUTE LAST MONTH.
SO AND SO 100 X CORRECT ME SO I CAN MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS NUMBER RIGHT.
IT RUNS, IT RUNS EVERY HOUR AND A HALF FROM 5 55 IN THE MORNING, GOES OUTTA SERVICE AFTER SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, TWO BUSES RUN IN THE AFTERNOON FROM THREE O'CLOCK ON.
I'LL JUST START OFF WITH MY FEELINGS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR ADMIN TO TAKE THE LEAD IN SHOWING WHAT A COMMUNITY, WHAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION CAN AND SHOULD BE.
UM, THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
OUR, OUR, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT RTA IN THE FUTURE.
WE, WE, WHEN, WHEN WE DO A SURVEY HERE, ONE OF THE TOP THINGS THAT'S ALWAYS ON THE SURVEY IS, IS TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
HOW DO WE GET MORE PEOPLE TO RIDE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I'VE KNOW THERE'S BEEN OTHER STUDIES FOR OTHER LARGER EMPLOYEES.
THEY'VE TRIED BUS SERVICES AND ALL THAT, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR EDMOND TO TRY TO TAKE THE LEAD IN THIS, UM, THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE, THERE'S NO BENEFITS FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND MAYBE IF WE REVISE THE ROUTES, IT DOESN'T MOVE EVERY HOUR AND A HALF THAT WE ACCOMMODATE THE WORKERS THAT ARE GOING IN THE MORNING TWO TRIPS AND THE WORKERS THAT ARE, AND THEN THEY WILL COME BACK IN THE EVENING.
IF YOU NEVER TAKEN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, YOU ADJUST YOUR LIFE TO THE SCHEDULE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE SCHEDULE ADJUSTING TO YOUR LIFE.
THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ENTITY SELECTS THE TIME THAT IS MOST BENEFICIAL FOR HIM.
SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO TO WORK, YOU MIGHT BE AT WORK AN HOUR EARLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU GOT, YOU GET THERE.
AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WORK YOUR OTHER SCHEDULES.
AND IN, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE LIVED IN, THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO.
AND I'M, I'M SURE IT'S LIKE THAT HERE TOO, WITH EMBARK.
I DO NOT LIKE THE TRANSFER OF POSSIBLY GOING TO BRITAIN AND GOING TO ANOTHER SYSTEM.
JUST RIDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND THEN TO SAY, I'M GONNA GO FROM ONE UNIT TO ANOTHER UNIT, AND THAT UNIT'S NOT WORKING.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE MULTIPLE POINTS THERE THAT THAT CAN SAVE YOU TO GET YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE ON AN ISLAND ONCE YOU GET THERE IF EMBARK DOESN'T COME.
SO I, I, I DON'T, I'M, I DON'T LIKE FOR US TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HOW TO HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DO MAKE THESE CHANGES, LIKE THE ONES I TWO IN THE MORNING, TWO IN THE AFTERNOON, THAT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH THEIR SCHEDULE, WHICH I THINK THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO LET.
BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR EDMOND TO, UM, TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS BECAUSE IT ALSO CONCERNS ME THAT UCO FOR PROBABLY FINANCIAL REASONS AND THE SOCIAL SECURITY
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PROBABLY FOR FINANCIAL REASONS THEY'VE DROPPED OUT OF THIS.BUT HOW CAN WE SHOW THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IF WE GO TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE LATER ON FOR RTA, THE BENEFITS IF WE CUT THIS OUT.
SO WHAT I'M IN FAVOR OF, I'M JUST GIVING MY COMMENTS HERE AND, BUT I'M JUST ONE VOTE UP HERE, IS THAT WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP THE 100 X GOING, DOESN'T RUN EVERY HOUR AND A HALF.
IT RUNS THE, THE, THE WORKERS IN THE MORNING AND BRING 'EM HOME AT NIGHT AND THEN, AND THEN WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY OR IN EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S ALSO GONNA HAVE TO BE DISCUSSIONS WITH EMBARK BECAUSE YOU SAID IN THE FUTURE EMBARK ARE, ARE THEY NOW JUST STARTING THEIR DISCUSSIONS ON THEIR FUTURE ROUTES? HOW CAN WE MAYBE WORK TOGETHER ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND OUTSIDE OF OKLAHOMA CITY HAVE BUS SERVICE.
NORMAN ACTUALLY WORKS WITH EMBARK ON THEIR COMMUTER ROUTE.
SO, SO I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
SO THE TWO IN THE MORNING INTO A NIGHT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYED IN OKLAHOMA CITY, IF IT JUST GOES TO BRITAIN, IT'S, WHAT WAS THAT? UM, LET ME BACK IT UP.
IT WOULD'VE, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 22,000 FOR THE REMAINING OF THE STEP THIS YEAR AND 50 FOR TWO AND TWO IF IT GOES ALL THE WAY.
IF THERE'S, IF THE MONEY'S NOT THERE, THE MONEY'S NOT THERE.
HOWEVER, UM, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T TO TAKE PEOPLE TO GO HAVE FUN ON A FRIDAY EVENING, A SATURDAY EVENING.
THIS IS FOR, UM, AT LEAST NOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT.
NOW IT'S FOR PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS.
IT'S FOR THEM TO HELP TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES.
AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN FINANCIAL REASONS, REASONS, ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS, AND PHYSICAL REASONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF SEIZURE DISORDER, YOU CAN'T DRIVE.
SO THERE'S SO MANY, SO MANY REASONS.
OR MAYBE YOU JUST ENJOY RIDING THE BUS AND YOU DON'T LIKE TRAFFIC.
IT'S TAKING THEM TO THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT.
THEY LIVE HERE IN EDMOND, THEY ARE RESIDENTS OF EDMOND.
UM, IT'S SO HARD WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO DOLLARS.
UM, I LIKE THAT THERE'S ALTERNATIVES.
I THINK, I THINK THE BEST ALTERNATIVE FOR NOW, AND THIS DOESN'T MEAN FOREVER, THIS, AND IT'S, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S JUST MY ME SAYING THIS, UM, IS TWO AND TWO, UM, I WOULD SAY GO TO IMPART TO, TO BRITAIN, UM, IN BROADWAY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE 'EM ALL THE WAY DOWN, BUT AT LEAST TO TAKE, NOT TO STOP IT, BUT TO GO TO IN THE MORNING AND TO AT NIGHT FOR PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS.
HERE'S THE THING THAT MADE THIS THING REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN EAST EDMOND AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE CENTER THAT WERE IMPROVING WITH THOSE FUNDS.
SO SIGNIFICANTLY IN SUCH A HUGE RIDERSHIP INCREASE THAT IT BECOMES OVERWHELMING THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA RIDE BY ELIMINATING THOSE ROUTES THAT IT SAVES A WHOLE LOT MORE GAS, A WHOLE LOT MORE POLLUTION.
AND, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE PUT IT TO THOSE TERMS BECAUSE THEN IT'S VERY OVERWHELMING WHICH WAY TO GO.
WHAT GETS ME IS THE PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THAT.
UM, BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T BEING SERVED TODAY.
THAT WOULD BE, IF WE MAKE THIS HARD DECISION, AND THAT WILL SAVE A LOT OF GAS, THAT'LL SAVE A LOT OF POLLUTION.
SO THAT'S REALLY, UM, AGAIN, Y'ALL, YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING IT.
UM, BUT THE OTHER SIDE ADD IS THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL GET SERVICE THAT AREN'T, IF WE MAKE THIS DECISION.
I MEAN, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID.
UM, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY I THINK WE AS, AS, AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A COUNCIL, HAVE GOT TO COME UP WITH MORE MONEY TO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
WE NEED TO PUT OUR MO OUR, OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS, SO TO SPEAK.
AND, UM, I, I CAN'T AGREE WITH COMPLETELY
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ELIMINATING THE ROUTE.I MEAN, MAYBE WE DO 1:00 AM 1:00 PM NOT PARTICULARLY CONVENIENT, BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE MAKING A LIVING AND NEED TO GET THERE IN THE MORNING AND EVENING, MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION.
BUT I, WE'VE GOTTA DO ROOTS FIVE AND SIX TOO, UM, TO SERVE THOSE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR THE PARATRANSIT PERSON WHO HASN'T HAD ACCESS BECAUSE THEY LIVE JUST BEYOND THOSE BORDERS.
UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION TO ELIMINATE THAT ROUTE THIS EVENING.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BETTER FUND OUR, OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THE REALLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
UM, WHERE AM I GOING WITH THAT? UM, YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE, AND I, I, I KNOW THAT THE MOST CREATIVE PERSON IN FINDING MONEY IS SITTING RIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT, BUT I THINK, AND THIS HADN'T BEEN HARDER, HARDER.
I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOK AT OTHER FORMS OF FUNDING THAT'S, OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND DIG DEEPER IN DIFFERENT POCKETS TO DO IT.
AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH DRIVERS AND BUSES MM-HMM.
CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, WE TRULY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO U UTILIZE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
WELL, ONE WAY THAT WE ELIMINATE AND REDUCE TRAFFIC IS BY PEOPLE RIDING BUSES, PEOPLE TAKING THEIR, RIDING THEIR BIKES, AND DOING OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID HERE, AND I APPRECIATED COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, CHAPMAN'S COMMENTS TOO.
WE, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT RESIDENTS OF EDMOND WHO LIVE IN THOSE AREAS THAT WOULD BE SERVICED BY ROOTS FIVE AND SIX.
WE ARE THINKING OF THEM AS WELL AS THE FOLKS WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED BY REDUCTION IN, IN 100 X ROUTES TOO.
SO I'M READY TO FIND SOME MORE MONEY.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS COLLECT.
WE WOULDN'T BECAUSE THEY WANNA LIVE HERE.
SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION.
AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T, TO ME IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOO DRASTIC TO, TO TAKE THE, THE RIGHT COMPLETELY.
BUT I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING TOO.
MY HEART IS LIKE 10 TIMES BIGGER THAN IN MY BODY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE COMMENTS WERE WONDERFUL.
AND, UM, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU ON, UM, IT'S YOUR RIDE TO WORK AND, AND IT'S WONDERFUL FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S, IT, IT'S A GREAT THING TO DO.
UM, AND SO I I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
I, I, BUT WE ALSO SIT UP HERE AND WE HAVE TO DO A BUDGET EACH YEAR, AND WE'RE CONSIDERING CITY LINK TONIGHT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET SEASON, WE'RE CONSIDERING ABOUT 2000 DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND, AND IT'S, AND IT'S DIFFICULT.
AND WE'VE GOTTA FIND THAT BALANCE.
AND SO THIS, TO ME, THIS ENTIRE PROCESS HAS BEEN ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT CAME UP.
THAT'S, WE, WE SEE GROWING MAINTENANCE COSTS IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE HEARD FROM CHRISTIE, OUR, OUR ALLOCATION FROM THE FEDERAL FUNDS IS CAPPED.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET AN INCREASE ON THAT.
AND SO MY MY GOES TO IN A TIME LIKE THIS WHERE I COULD GO EITHER WAY COMPLETELY, UH, AND, AND SITTING HERE AND TRYING TO THINK OF THE IDEA THAT HASN'T BEEN THOUGHT OF, AND I'M, I'M JUST NOT THAT SMART.
SO O HONESTLY, WHERE MY DECISION GOES TO RIGHT NOW, I, WE, WE PLACE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON COMMITTEES FOR A REASON.
SO WE CAN SPREAD OUT AND WE CAN JOIN THE OTHER CITIZENS ON COMMITTEES LIKE THIS AT TRANSPORTATION AND A TASK FORCE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SO WE CAN, UH, EITHER SHARE SOME EXPERTISE, UH, AND BE A PART OF THAT, AND THEN BRING THAT KNOWLEDGE FROM THE COMMITTEE, WORK BACK TO THIS GROUP AND DISCUSS IT.
AND SO IN THIS CASE WHERE I COULD GO EITHER WAY, I'M GOING TO, UM, I'M GONNA PUT MY FAITH AND TRUST INTO THE COMMITTEE THAT, UH, HAS DISCUSSED THIS A LOT, AND IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I CAN GO TONIGHT IS, IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE DECIDED AND WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD VOTE.
SO COUNCIL, UH, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE IS THAT IT'S
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PUBLIC HEARING PROPOSED REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION.SO IS IS THE, THE RECOMMENDATION IS A COMPLETE ELIMINATION OF THE 100 X OR YOU COULD, OR YOU CAN DO A REDUCTION.
IT'S EITHER A REDUCTION OR THE ELIMINATION OF A HUNDRED X.
SO THE, THESE ARE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS MM-HMM.
RANDY, HOW WOULD YOU VOTE ON THAT? I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
BUT E P TC RECOMMENDED ELIMINATION OF A HUNDRED X, THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, THEY HAD BOTH OPTIONS IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND THEIR RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ELIMINATE YOU.
OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WOULD.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
AND I WILL SAY IT WITH YOU UNANIMOUS, UM, TO ELIMINATE IT.
BUT THIS, THIS BODY CAN DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
UM, I DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY, UM, VOTING DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT A CITIZEN'S COMMITTEE HAS, HAS RECOMMENDED.
I THINK THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS VOTE ARE EXTREME TO THOUGH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE, BUT ARE EXTREME TO THAT SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.
UM, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ELIMINATING IT A HUNDRED PERCENT UNLESS THERE IS AN ALTERNATE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPTION FOR THEM.
SO, I MEAN, I, TO ME, A VOTE TONIGHT IS, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GONNA APPEAR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, AGAIN, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER SOLUTIONS OR DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS OR MORE MONEY.
UM, BUT I, AGAIN, I DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY GOING SOMETHING CONTRARY TO WHAT A COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS HAVE THOUGHTFULLY AND CAREFULLY DONE.
SO IF WE VOTE TO DO THIS, IT WOULD BE 1ST OF JANUARY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S WHEN WE WERE PROPOSING TO DO IT.
SO OUR COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE UNTIL THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THESE PEOPLE, WHETHER IT BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED IN NOVEMBER THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.
SO THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE IN JANUARY.
SO I THINK THE COUNSELOR ASKED THE QUESTION, IS THERE A DEADLINE WHERE WE HAVE TO, OBVIOUSLY JANUARY IS WHEN TO CHANGE THE FIRST, BUT RIGHT, THERE IS NO DEADLINE.
WE'VE DONE OUR 30, 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD.
REALLY, WE CAN DO ANY OPTIONS.
WE CAN TAKE PROPOSALS FROM YOU ALL BACK TO THE E P T C COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER.
WE CAN DO ANOTHER 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD.
THE JANUARY TIMEFRAME WAS OUR TIMEFRAME WAS WHEN WE COULD REALISTICALLY PUT IT IN PLACE.
SO IF, AND THESE PEOPLE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF, THEY NEED, THEY HAVE, THEY NEED TO PLAN.
SO, SO COULD YOU, YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU COULD TAKE BACK THE PROPOSAL OF, OF CHANGING THE NUMBER OF ROUTES BACK TO THEM, THEN THEY DIS HOWEVER, I THINK YOU SAID WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT, DISCUSSED THAT.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE PROPOSALS THOUGH WITH THE E P T C AND EVEN THAT.
I, THEY GET, THEY GOT THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN SAID E P T C AS WELL AS THE OPEN HOUSE.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE VAN POOLING JUST YET MM-HMM.
AND FRANKLY, THAT WAS MORE WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT TAKING BACK TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE VAN POOLING OPTION.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IT, IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE TO ME, THE OLD, UH, AIRPORT SHUTTLED, IF YOU EVER RODE OVER THOSE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO IT COULD BE A, IT COULD BE A 15 PASSENGER VAN, IT COULD BE A CAR, A LARGE SUV OF SOME SORT.
JUST DEPENDS ON THE GROUP THAT'S GOING.
AND WHO'S DRIVING THAT VEHICLE? UM, SO THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA THAT LIVE CLOSE, THEY WOULD DO WHAT ENTERPRISE WOULD WORK WITH IT, THE PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP FOR IT, AND TO SEE WHO'S CLOSE ENOUGH TOGETHER, UM, WHO, OR WHO WORKS CLOSE ENOUGH TOGETHER.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO ELECT A CAPTAIN TO DRIVE AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF HAVING A BACKUP.
SO IT WOULD BE TOTALLY, IT'D BE ONE OF THE FOLKS, IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY.
FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, THE REASON THEY'RE NOT DRIVING THEMSELVES IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DRIVE.
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WELL, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IN OUR PACKET IS THAT THE MOTION TO APPROVE SERVICE CHANGE, TO ELIMINATE COMMUTER SERVICE ROUTE AND ADD ADDITIONAL FIXED ROUTES TO THE CITY LINK SERVICE.AND I THINK THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FUND IT.
AND CHRISTIE SPENDS ENOUGH TIME LOOKING FOR MONEY.
AND, UH, I MEAN, THIS JUST MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT.
BUT WE, THAT'S ONE OF OUR THINGS THAT WE'VE GONE BACK TO STAFF SEVERAL TIMES TO SAY, OKAY, WHERE IS, IS THERE ANY MONEY AVAILABLE OR, OR NOT? UM, FROM USUALLY ROB, PETER AND PAY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
RIGHT? WE, WE GO INTO OUR GENERAL BUDGET AND, AND, UH, AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY EXTRA COINS IN THERE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION IS, IS, IS, IS TO ELIMINATE THE, THE COMMUTER SERVICE ROUTE AND ADD ADDITIONAL FIXED ROUTES TO THE, TO THE CITY LINK SERVICE AREA.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO MAKE THAT MOTION AND IT DID NOT PASS, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DID NOT VOTE BY MAJORITY TO ELIMINATE THREAT, AND YOU WOULD DIRECT COUNSEL STAFF TO GO BACK AND PRESENT ANOTHER OPTION TO YOU AT A LATER POINT IN TIME, YOU COULD DO THAT BY THAT MOTION.
OR YOU COULD DO, MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF THAT TO COME BACK WITH OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
CUZ THE ONE THAT YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED TO TONIGHT, YOU DON'T AGREE WITH MM-HMM.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROUTE THAT GOES OUT TO THE, UH, MEDICAL PROVIDERS.
WHAT IS, THAT COULD BE A CHARGE BACK TO STAFF TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS AND COME BACK WITH ALTERNATIVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
WELL, AND WE TAKE, WE TAKE, WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
WE TAKE, IT WAS VERY SERIOUS HAVING THESE COMMITTEES MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THERE, IS TO GIVE US, THEY'VE DELIBERATED OVER THIS AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GIVING US INFORMATION.
UM, AND TO GO AGAINST, TO VOTE AGAINST SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, AN ENTITY LIKE THAT THAT GIVES US THIS INFORMATION IS, IS DIFFICULT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S COME UP YET.
AND FOR ANYBODY THAT WATCHES THE VIDEO OR WATCHING, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE DON'T CHARGE FOR TO RIDE? SO WE HAVE BEEN FAIR FREE SINCE THE START.
UM, AND WE DID DO A FAIR ANALYSIS BACK IN 2016, THE SETUP COST TO, UH, WE HAVE NO SOFTWARE CAPABILITY OF DOING AN APP.
UM, TO COLLECT FEE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO FAIR BOXES.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AN ARMORED CAR TO PICK UP THAT FAIR BOX.
WE'D HAVE TO TASK OUR, UM, THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR TO TAKE THAT FAIR OR, YOU KNOW, AND COLLECT IT, DO EVERYTHING ACCOUNTING WISE WITH THAT, WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER PERSON, WHICH THEN HAS PASSED THROUGH TO US.
UM, AND THEN ALL THE ASSOCIATED FEES WITH THAT, WE'D HAVE TO EQUIP EVERY BUS WITH NOT ONLY A FAIR BOX, BUT ANY TYPE OF APP THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NEEDED.
AND THEN YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET, UM, WHICH IS MORE COSTLY THAN SETTING IT UP.
AND THEN YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO NEED REDUCED FAIR OR FREE FAIR.
AND OUR FEDERAL DOLLAR AMOUNT IS REDUCED.
REDUCED ONCE WE START COLLECTING.
WE HAVE TO REPORT ANY REVENUE THAT WE TAKE IN.
SO WE HAD TO REPORT THE UCO, WE HAD TO REPORT A SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE WHEN WE COLLECTED THAT FEE.
UM, AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FEES.
SO IT'S SLOWLY ON THE CITY'S PORTION AND THE FEDERAL PORTION.
SO REALLY THERE'S NO HARM IF WE SAY GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE LOVE YOU COMMITTEE THANK YOU.
WE WANT YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE.
SO THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU'RE PUTTING OFF SERVICE TO, UH, FIVE AND SIX.
AND THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT IS MM-HMM.
COULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH FIVE AND SIX AND RESERVE DECISION ON ROUTE 100? YOU COULD, BUT JUST BE AWARE THAT FIVE AND SIX IS NOT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST OF, OF MONEY, BUT YES, WE COULD, WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BUSES AND DRIVERS TO SERVE.
I WOULD, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T BE.
SHOULD BE DRIVING, NOT BE DRIVING.
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ALREADY TRIED TO RECRUIT ME.SEE THAT'S THE THING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING COSTS ANYWAY.
WE'VE BEEN FINDING MORE MONEY.
SO THAT'S FIND A SOLUTION THAT EVEN FIVE AND SIX, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE FREQUENCY COULD BE FOR IT, BUT IT MIGHT NOT START OUT FULL BLOWN.
SO THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE OUR ROUTES MORE EFFICIENT AND MEET UP EVERY 30 MINUTES WITH THE CURRENT ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND FOUR, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INITIAL, ONE OF THE INITIAL RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO MAKE ROUTE SIX, ONE HOUR ROUTE BECAUSE IT IS WITH ONE BUS, A ONE HOUR ROUTE MM-HMM.
UM, BUT THAT MEANS WHEN IT COMES BACK IN FROM BEING ON I 35, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVERY HOUR, UM, VERSUS THE OTHER FIVE, THAT WOULD BE EVERY 30 MINUTES.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE CHANGES TO FOUR, BECAUSE FOUR HAS NEVER BEEN A 30 MINUTE ROUTE.
UM, SO WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AS WELL.
SO THE STUDENTS AND FACULTY AT UCO AND THOSE THAT RIDE AROUND IT CAN, CAN SERVE IT, BUT IT'S ALL, I MEAN IT'S ON, IT'S AN OPTION.
UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT TO SEND IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD BE FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE THIS COMMITTEE HAS TOLD YOU WHAT THEY THINK.
WELL THEN THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO SEND IT BACK TO STAFF TO, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
AND THEN, THEN IF WE GO TO THE TWO AND TWO, HOW WOULD THAT WORK AND ALL THAT.
AND I WOULD WANT TO SEND IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL PART OF THE PROCESS.
BUT I UNDERSTAND, DO WE HAVE FUNDS FOR FIVE AND SIX? UM, SO WITH, IF WE WOULD ELIMINATE 100 X, IT COULD PAY FOR EITHER ROUTE ONE OR AN HOUR OF ROUTE SIX.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ROUTE FIVE, SORRY, TOO MANY ROUTES.
ROUTE FIVE OR ONE HOUR OF ROUTE SIX.
SO ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WOULD BE AN ADD, AN ADDITIONAL COST.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS AN ADDITIONAL COST.
THAT'S FROM THE CURRENT MM-HMM.
AND WHAT I THINK THE MAYOR IS PROPOSING IS MORE ADDITIONAL COST TO MAINTAIN SOME PRESENCE IN 100 X.
NOT AT THE LEVEL WE ARE NOW, I'M HEARING MAYBE CORRECT, BUT TO ADD FIVE AND SIX AS PROPOSED SO THAT WE COULD SERVE THOSE RESIDENTS.
SO WE COULD, WE COULD, UM, TO STAY COST NEUTRAL, YOU COULD ADD ROUTE FIVE WITH THE MODIFICATIONS TO 100 X OR ONE HOUR SERVICE ON ROUTE SIX, BUT NOT ROUTE FIVE.
AND THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE 100 X, THAT WOULD BE COST NEUTRAL.
THAT ACTUALLY SAVES SOME MONEY.
NOT VERY MUCH, BUT IT WOULD SAVE SOME
BUT THAT WOULD WORK IN THOSE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE HUNDRED X COSTS CURRENTLY.
BUT THE PROPOSAL INCREASES THE COST BY ADDING FIVE AND SIX AND ELIMINATING 100 X, WE ARE INCREASING THE COST, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
DID WE FIGURE OUT ANY COSTS FOR ONE TRIP THERE AND DOWN? UM, IT IS ABOUT, UM, 27.
WELL, IT'S $27 A DAY PER RIDER.
SO IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
ISN'T THAT WHAT IT WAS? WE DID THIS EARLIER
SO YOU MEAN ONE TRIP DOWN TO EMBARK IN THE MORNING OR 1 0 1 TRIP DOWN? OH, IT'S A REVENUE HOUR.
SO IT'S, UM, IT IS ALMOST 80,000 A YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S, SO OUR REVENUE, IT'S BY REVENUE HOUR.
OUR CURRENT REVENUE HOURS AROUND $68 FOR OPERATIONS.
AND THEN IT'S, IT'S JUST BASICALLY HALF.
SO TO GO BEYOND THIS PROPOSAL, IF WE WANTED TO HAVE TWO TRIPS TO EMBARK MORNING AND AFTERNOON ON A HUNDRED X, WE GOTTA COME UP WITH $50,727.
IS THAT THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIND $50,000 IN $727 AND 65 CENTS.
ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I CAN, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA CUT OFF DISCUSSION IF PEOPLE ARE STILL DISCUSSING OPTIONS.
NO, I MEAN, IF, IF I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FIND 50,000 TOO.
MR. CHAPMAN, DO YOU THINK YOU MAY NOT WANT TO ANSWER THIS, DO YOU THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD SUPPORT US DECIDING TO KEEP IT AND FIND $50,000? I THINK THAT THAT COMMITTEE WOULD DO WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
THEY WOULD SUPPORT YOU IN THAT.
UM, I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT COMMITTEE IS LOOKING FOR A SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
TO ME, I THINK IT'S A BANDAID UNTIL THE BIGGER ISSUE IS WE'VE GOT TO BETTER FUND OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND WE DO NOT, WHAT
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THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IS, I'M NOT ON THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M COMMITTED.WE HATE TO, TO PLACE DOLLARS PER WRITER, BUT 100 X KILLS US ON DOLLARS PER WRITER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU BY THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE DONE, THAT DOLLAR PER WRITER IS GONNA GET SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER ON FOUR AND FIVE.
AND SO IT MAKES YOUR WHOLE SYSTEM SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EFFICIENT.
NOW I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S TOUGH TO LOOK AT, AT, UH, AT THE NUMBERS.
WELL, AND IT MAY BUY US SOME TIME TO FIND A BETTER ALTERNATIVE AND MAYBE PARTNER BETTER WITH EMBARK OR, I MEAN, I'M NOT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T EXPLORED MANY, MANY THINGS, UM, I GUESS I RECOGNIZE THIS IS NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION AND I'M COMMITTED TO A BIGGER, BROADER SOLUTION TO THIS CHALLENGE.
I, I HAVE TO SAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING BETTER WITH EMBARK WHEN WE COULD PARTNER WITH HIM AT BRI AND BROADWAY, BUT WE'RE AGAINST THAT.
MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS GOING BACK TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT IF WE'VE GOT ONE OR TWO TRIPS AND THEY ARE THERE AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, LATE BY FIVE MINUTES, THEN THEY CAN'T GET TO WORK.
YOU JUST ON A ISLAND, THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE, THERE'S NO TRANSPORTATION.
AND IN OTHER SCENARIOS, IN OTHER METROPOLITAN AREAS, YOU HAVE MULTI, WHEN YOU HAVE A A, LIKE A HUB, A DEMARKATION HUB LIKE THAT, THERE'S OTHER BUSES OR OTHER SYSTEMS YOU CAN GRAB THERE TO GO.
BUT IN THIS SCENARIO, YOU'RE GOING THERE AND, AND YOUR CONNECTOR DOESN'T COME.
AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A BENCH.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A BENCH RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE ON THE HUB, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL TRYING TO GET TO WORK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU, YOU'RE DEAD AND YOU CALL AN UBER TO COME BACK HOME OR GO TO TAKE YOU TO WORK.
I'M JUST SAYING THE THING IS THIS DISCUSSION HERE, THIS IS NOT THE END OF IT.
WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN AND WE, AND WE TALK ABOUT IT.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT EVEN WHAT OUR PROPOSED CHANGES ARE GOING TO RESULT IN WHAT WE WANT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE IDEAS, IDEAS AND THE RATIONALES THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THIS, IS THAT WE NEED TO STILL PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON UNDER 100 X RIGHT NOW.
AND IF IT'S JUST $50,000, WE GOTTA RAISE.
UM, I KNOW WE CAN'T GO SELL GIRL CAUSE THE PEARL SCOUT COOKIES, BUT WE MIGHT NEED TO GO JUST LOOK AND, AND THEN IF YOU COME BACK AND SAYS WE CAN'T FIND IT, THEN GUESS WHAT? WE, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THE HARDER DECISIONS.
WE HAVE TO MAKE A HARDER DECISION.
BUT I LOVE THE CONVERSATION, SO, AND I AND, AND DAVID PLEASE TAKE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
I MEAN, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO.
WE UNDERSTAND THEIR PAIN AND GUESS WHAT? AND TELL 'EM WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER HARD DECISION COMING FOR IN A FEW WEEKS ANYWAY OR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO COUNCIL
OR CONTINUE, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT TAKING IT TO TWO TRIPS OR ANYTHING.
WELL, BUT WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO DIRECT A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, REDUCE THE COMMUTER SERVICE ROUTE AND SPECIFY WHAT YOU WANT THAT TO BE AND ADD THE ADDITIONAL ROUTES SUBMITTED IN PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION OR ANY OTHER MODIFICATION THERE TOO.
BUT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD INCLUDE THAT THE MINOR OPTION IS THE THREE AND FOUR, ADDING FIVE AND SIX.
AND THEN IF I LOOK AT HERE, THE OPTION IS TWO TRIPS TO EMBARK TRANSFER CENTER, AM AND PM.
IS THAT TWO IN THE MORNING AND TWO IN THE AFTERNOON? YES SIR.
AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST OF 50,000, GIVE OR TAKE LOOK AT MORE.
SO THAT'S ONE OPTION, OR THE OTHER OPTION IS ELIMINATED COMPLETELY OR I DON'T THINK WE WERE SUPPORTIVE
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OF THE, THE GOING TO BRIT IN BROADWAY AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT VAN POOLING AT THIS POINT.AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIPS WITH EMBARK.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SEE
BECAUSE IF WE VOTE NO FOR THIS, AND THEN WE'RE VOTING NO TO ADD FIVE AND SIX, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
CAN I BRING UP THIS THOUGHT? DO YOU, IF WE, IF WE VOTE FOR, WE LOOK AT KEEPING AN OPTION TO EMBARK, DO YOU GO ONE TRIP AM AND PM AND THEN IF YOU NEED MORE, IF WE HAVE MORE RIDERSHIP, THEN WE CAN HANDLE THEN, THEN WE LOOK AT, THEN WE LOOK AT ADDING IT OTHER THAN HAVING TWO AND IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH, WE'RE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN TO TAKE ONE AWAY.
THAT MIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, JOSH AND CHRISTY, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IF WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK JOHN
JOHN, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO YEAH.
HERE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO COME UP? SURE.
THE THINGS HE DOES IS TRANSFERRED.
I'M JOHN PELVIS, MY WIFE AND I TELL, TELL US WHO YOU ARE.
I MANAGE CITY LINK FOR R A P DOVE.
I WORK WITH CHRISTINE AND RANDY.
MY QUESTION, JOHN, IS WHAT SORT OF A BURDEN, FURTHER BURDEN DOES THIS PUT ON YOUR STAFF? YOUR EQUIPMENT, YOUR DRIVERS, YOUR MAINTENANCE? OKAY.
AND IT'S, THE DRIVER SITUATION IS MUCH BETTER.
OUR ATP DEV HAS INVESTED IN A NATIONAL, UM, RECRUITER FOR ALL OUR REGIONS.
I ACTUALLY HAVE MORE DRIVERS RIGHT NOW THAN I CURRENTLY NEED.
AND WE DID THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING MORE.
SO IF WE CAN GET GOOD PEOPLE IN THE DOOR NOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
UM, THE VEHICLES, AND IT'S NOT CHRISTIE'S FAULTS, NOBODY'S FAULT EXCEPT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT SHE'S RIGHT.
THE VEHICLES, WE HAVE FOUR OF 'EM THAT LITERALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE INCREASING.
OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE RUNNING SOMETHING PAST IT'S USEFUL LIFE, IT'S COSTING YOU MORE TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE AT THAT SITUATION WITH THE BUSES, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN TO EMBARK TWICE IN THE MORNING AND TWICE IN THE AFTERNOON, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
I MEAN, I'VE PLAYED WITH IDEAS AND WE CAN DO THAT.
SO WE CAN RUN THE FOUR, THE FOUR CHANGE THE THREE, CHANGE THE FIVE, THE TWO SIXES AND TWO TRIPS STAND BAR, AND WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING? SURE.
WHAT IS YOUR OPINION? YOUR OPINION? ONE OR TWO TRIPS DOWN THERE OR ZERO? IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT ONE AND MAKE THAT WORK.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE DOING IS PULLING BUSES THAT ARE GONNA BE USED ON OTHER ROUTES, HAVE IT START EARLY.
AND THEN IF IT GETS TO WHERE IT'S TWOFOLD, THEN MAYBE GO TO TWO, THEN WE DO IT TWO, WE CAN FILL ONE MM-HMM.
YEAH, WE CAN DO WHATEVER OPTION YOU WANT.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, AND I AM AN ADMIN EDMOND REGISTERED RESIDENT, SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS ON THIS AND JUST SEEMS LIKE IN OUR SHOES HERE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EASIER.
NOT THAT I'M LOOKING FOR THE EASIEST JOB FOR US, BUT IT'S, IT'S EASIER TO ADD THINGS AND PLAN TO ADD AND TAKE AWAY.
SO WE ALL CELEBRATE THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING AWAY AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR 50 GRAND FOR THE YEAR VERSUS JUST FOR HALF A YEAR.
WELL, WHICH MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, IS IT HALF JOHN FOR TWO IS 50,000 APPROXIMATELY TO DO TWO TRIPS IN THE MORNING? TWO IN THE AFTERNOON IS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONTRACT YEAR.
AND THE CONTRACT YOU'RE IN IS JUNE 30TH.
BUT IF WE, IF WE REDUCE THAT TO ONE, DOES IT HALF THE COST, THEN THAT WOULD COVER A YEAR'S WORTH OF THAT? YEAH.
WELL IT'S EASIER TO FIND, IT'S EASIER THAN FINDING A HUNDRED
SO WORD THAT APPROPRIATELY PLEASE.
WELL, WHAT'S WHAT'S, YEAH, WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION? OKAY.
I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I RECOMMEND AND FOR, FOR OUR SIX THAT WE ADD THE ADDITIONAL TWO CITY LINK ROUTES OF FIVE AND SIX AND WE REDUCE THE HUNDRED X COMMUTER ROUTE TO ONCE IN THE MORNING AND ONCE IN THE EVENING.
SECOND AND MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO YEAH, DO THE MINOR OH YEAH.
MINOR MODIFIC AND THE MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THREE AND FOUR.
AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE MOST CONVENIENT TIME FOR THE MOST WRITERS IN THE EVENING AND IN THE MORNING.
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HAVE ALL THEIR EMAILS, SO, OKAY.AND THIS WOULD COMMENCE JANUARY AND JANUARY.
THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION.
AND THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.
DON'T THINK SO, BUT IT IS FOR TONIGHT.
[ <Recess Edmond City Council Meeting and Convene Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting>]
I MOVE THAT WE RECESS THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CONVENE THE EDMOND PUBLIC BOARD AUTHORITY MEETING.[7. Approval of EPWA Meeting Minutes: September 26, 2022]
IN THE E P W A MEETING NOW FIRST ORDER BUSINESS APPROVED OF THE E P W A MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 26TH.SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE.
THOSE MINUTES MEANING MINUTES HAVE BEEN
[8. EPWA General Consent Items: (Items listed under EPWA General Consent are usually approved as a group with a proper motion from a trustee of the EPWA. Trustees may request discussion or separate action on any item under EPWA General Consent.)]
APPROVED.NOW WE HAVE OUR GENERAL CONSENT.
UM, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM HERE, A SUBSTANCE OF THE, UH, CORRECTED EASEMENT FOR RYAN NELSON AND SUSAN NELSON.
COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THAT ITEM? IT'S A GENERAL CONSENT ITEM.
[B. Approval of Purchases:]
NEXT WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF PURCHASES.[1. Acceptance of Corrected Easement from Ryan Nelson and Susan Nelson, husband and wife for Water Master Plan Project: MAIN-03; Parcel 19]
OF EASEMENT FROM ERICA LEE, A MARRIED PERSON FROM WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN PROJECTS FOR E ONE DASH ONE B E THREE DASH ONE E THREE DASH TWO E THREE DASH THREE AND E THREE DASH FOUR CALLER CREEK INTERCEPTOR PHASE TWO PARTIAL 13 FOR $30,000.ACCEPTANCE EASEMENT FROM ESPERA SIDE REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT, LSC AND OKLAHOMA LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY FOR WATER MASTER PLAN PROJECT MAIN DASH IS THREE PARTIAL 25 FOR $7,000.
APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE WITH K ONE FOR PURCHASE OF CUSTOM WALL SYSTEM FOR UTILITY CUSTOM SERVICE.
DECREASE ACCEPTANCE OF BID OF MI FOR MISCELLANEOUS FURNITURE AND FIXTURES FOR THE NORTH TIMBERS OFFICES FOR 359,660 $63 AND 31 CENTS.
AND THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR PURCHASES.
COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS THOSE.
[ <Adjourn Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene Edmond City Council Meeting>]
APPROVED.NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE E P W A MEETING AND RECONVENE THE ADMIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'RE NOW BACK IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
[A. Case #SP22-00030 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan for MidFirst Bank, located on E 15th Street, between Tahlequah & W I-35 Frontage. (MidFirst Bank)]
YOU VERY MUCH.NOW WE HAVE PLANNING DISCUSSION ITEMS. THESE ITEMS REQUIRE SEPARATE VOTE FOR EACH ONE.
CASE NUMBER S P 2 2 0 0 0 3 0 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR MID FIRST BANK LOCATED ON EAST 15TH STREET BETWEEN QUA AND WEST I 35 FRONTAGE MID FIRST BANK IS THE APPLICANT.
YOU SAID THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN WHICH CONTAINS MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, INCLUDING A NEW MID FIRST BANK LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 15TH, JUST EAST OF I 35.
UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY EAST OF THE EXISTING ON QUEUE AND COLTER CAR WASH THERE.
UH, THE SITE IS ON D ONE P U D, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY OF RETAIL AND OFFICE USES.
UH, THE PLAN SHOWS THREE BUILDINGS, THE NORTHERN BUILDING, WHICH WILL BE THE NEW MID FIRST BANK, AND THEN TWO OTHER BUILDINGS WHICH HAVE FIVE TENANT SPACES TO THE SOUTH.
UH, THE BUILDING'S TOTAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
THEY ARE ONE STORY AND ARE A MIX OF MATERIALS, BUT ARE GENERALLY RED BRICK WITH GRAYSTONE AND METAL AND GLASS ACCENTS.
UH, THE SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS 71 PARKING SPACES WITH ONE ACCESS ON THE 15TH STREET.
AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER ACCESS VIA SHARED DRIVE, WHICH GOES EAST TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF VARIANCES LISTED.
UH, ONE IS, UH, FOR A POTENTIAL SPEAKER BOX OR CALL BOX ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, MOST SOUTHERN BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
UH, THAT IS A WHAT'S CONSIDERED A SENSITIVE BORDER BY THE ORDINANCE AND SINCE IT FACES RESIDENTIAL AND PROHIBITED, UH, ANOTHER VARIANCE IS TO THE FENCING MATERIAL.
THE P U D WAS VERY SPECIFIC AND LIMITED THE SITE TO MASONITE SHEETS.
UH, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
UH, THERE ARE BETTER OPTIONS AVAILABLE NOW AND THE AFRICAN HAS WORKED WITH THE BUDDING OWNERS AND WOULD LIKE TO USE EITHER COMPOSITE, UH, OR SOME SORT OF ORNAMENTAL OR STOCK AID TYPE FENCING.
UH, THE LAST IS TO LANDSCAPING.
THERE ARE THREE ISLANDS WHICH DO NOT MEET THE LANDSCAPING CODE.
UH, THERE'S A TERMINAL ISLAND HERE THAT'S TOO SMALL.
THIS ONE TECHNICALLY DOESN'T HAVE A TREE IN IT, AND THERE'S NO TERMINAL ISLAND THERE AT THE END OF THAT ROW.
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MEET THAT, UH, DOESN'T TECHNICALLY MEET THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, BUT IT DOES HAVE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PLANT UNITS.SO A PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 20TH MEETING.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? NO.
DID ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SPEAKER? ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING AGAINST IT? NO.
AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AN ELEVATION CHANGE.
UH, THIS SITS LOWER THAN THE LOTS RIGHT HERE SOUTH, SO I DON'T, IT'LL BE BLOCKED BY IT THEN IT SHOULD BE BLOCKED BY LANDSCAPING AND THE CHAIN AND THE VEHICLES THAT'S THERE.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SPEAKER BOX, I'M THINKING OF WHEN I GO TO A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT VERSUS WHEN I GO TO A MODERN BANK.
NOW THEY HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS AND, AND, AND, AND, AND BETTER AUDIO VISUAL.
RIGHT? I'M NOT, THAT'S FOR THE QUESTION FOR THE, FOR THE BANK.
IT IS FOR THAT TENANT SPACE RIGHT THERE.
NO, THE BANK'S THIS BUILDING UP HERE, NO.
WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I KNOW THIS CAME UP THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND COVER THE RETAINING WALL AND THAT? RIGHT.
SO THERE'S A WEST CORNER, RIGHT? THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THAT RUNS ALONG THIS SIDE.
IT'S ABOUT TWO FEET, GENERALLY TWO FEET EAST OF THE PROPERTY LINE UNTIL IT REACHES DOWN HERE AND THEN IT STARTS TO BEND BACK.
UH, THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE SOME TREES.
UH, IT'S, I THINK AT ITS LARGEST POINT THERE, IT'S AROUND FIVE TO SIX FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE BEFORE IT GETS TO THE DETENTION AREA.
SO THE IDEA OF TRYING TO, OF PUTTING THAT IN AND CURVING IT IS TO PRESERVE SOME SPACE THERE.
I, I THINK JUST WORKING WITH THE GRADE I THINK IT JUST WORKED WITH THE GRADE AND HAPPENED TO WORK OUT, SO.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING? MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL? GREG MASSEY WITH RED PLAINS PROFESSIONAL.
UM, RANDY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB GOING THROUGH THIS.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
UM, WE DID HAVE, UM, TWO COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS.
UM, WE HAD ALSO MET ON SITE WITH ALL THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, UM, TO GO OVER THEIR CONCERNS.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE THE VARIANCE ON THE FENCING BECAUSE MASON NIGHT FENCING'S JUST NOT GONNA LAST IN THE OKLAHOMA WEATHER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF CHRISTIE, UH, HAD INCLUDED THOSE IN THE PACKAGE OR HAS THOSE AVAILABLE, BUT THE RETAINING WALL SECTIONS, AGAIN, EXTEND FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UM, WHERE THEY WILL BE EXPOSED WALLS ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE BELOW GRADE AND THE FENCE WILL BE LOCATED ALONG THE TOP OF THAT WALL.
THE SPEAKER BOX, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A TENANT FOR THAT SPACE YET.
UH, AND ACTUALLY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION.
THE SPEAKER BOX IS ACTUALLY TO BE LOCATED, UM, IT'S FOR A DRIVE THROUGH MENU.
UH, WOULD BE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
UH, AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE THE BOX ORIENTED OR THE SPEAKER ITSELF ORIENTED TO THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE THE LANDSCAPED ISLAND THAT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE AND AGAIN, THE FENCING AND THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T, UH, BECOME AN ISSUE FOR ANY OF THE RESIDENTS.
I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD HAD, AND SINCE YOU HAD A COMMUNITY CONNECTION WITH THE RESIDENTS, THEN IF IT'S OKAY WITH THEM, IT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP.
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT SPEAKER BOX HERE.
THAT WAS A CONCERN OF MY THANK YOU.
SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? COUNSEL? I DON'T SEE ANY.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? MOTION TO SECOND.
MOTION SECOND, PLEASE CATCH YOUR VOTE PASS.
[B. Case #PR22-00024 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Final Plat for MidFirst Bank – Hilltop Plaza, located on E. 15th Street, between Tahlequah and W. I-35 Frontage. (MidFirst Bank)]
THE NEXT ONE IS NINE B IS THE CASE NUMBER PR 2224 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR MID FIRST BANK HILLTOP PLAZA, LOCATED ON EAST 15TH STREET BETWEEN QUA AND WEST HIGH 35 FAGE.MID FIRST BANK IS THE APPLICANT.
UH, IT'S ONE LOT AND 2.2 ACRES AND IT CONFORMS TO THE SITE PLAN YOU JUST
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APPROVED IS.ANY QUESTIONS FOR, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I, I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS TO ASK
WELL, I HAVE TO HAVE TO ASK THE AUDIENCE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE THAT? NOTHING.
[C. Case #SP19-00026 Public Hearing and Consideration for an amendment to the approved Site Plan for the Project 66 building expansion, located at 2612 South Kelly Avenue. (Project 66)]
CASE NUMBER SP 19 0 0 0 26 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT 66 BUILDING EXPANSION LOCATED AT 26 12 SOUTH KELLY AVENUE, PROJECT 66 IS AN APPLICANT.UH, THE APPLICANT DID RECEIVE AN, UH, SITE PLAN APPROVAL IN MARCH OF 2020.
UH, AT THAT TIME, THEY, UH, THERE WAS A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED.
AS A PART OF THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS NOW WISHING TO AMEND THAT SITE PLAN AND INCLUDE TWO VARIANCES.
UH, THE FIRST VARIANCE IS TO THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT OF THE TERMINAL ISLAND AT THE END OF PARKING.
UH, THE NEWS, SO THERE'S THE CURRENT ONE SHOWS TERMINAL ISLAND RIGHT THERE.
THE NEW ONE WOULD REMOVE THAT, WHICH REQUIRES A VARIANCE TO THE, UH, LANDSCAPING CODE.
HOWEVER, THE NUMBER OF PLANT UNITS IS STILL COMPLIANT.
UH, THE SECOND VARIANCE WILL ALLOW GROUND SIGN TO GO INTO UTILITY EASEMENT ALONG KELLY, SOUTH OF THE DRIVEWAY.
UH, THERE IS A UTILITY EASEMENT THAT EXISTS COVERING THE ENTIRE FRONT YARD.
SO ANY GROUND SIGN IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE EASEMENT, UH, INCLUDING THE EXISTING ONE.
SO THE EXISTING SIGN IS LOCATED HERE.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT HERE WHERE IT'S MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED.
UH, THE PROPOSED SIGN IS COMPLIANT OTHERWISE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE SIGN IN THE EASEMENT, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED AN APPROVAL AT ON THEIR SEPTEMBER 20TH MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? NOT AT THIS TIME, SIR.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? MOVE TO APPROVE.
MR. MAYOR, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, WE HAD NO ONE SIGN UP FOR CITIZENS COMMENT, SO WE HAVE NO CITIZENS COMMENT.
[11. Comments from Mayor and City Council members.]
ITEM IS 11 COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.UM, COUNCIL, I WOULD STILL ASK THAT YOU PRAY FOR OUR OFFICER AND, AND IN OUR TOWN.
WE STILL IN THE HOSPITAL, UM, STILL PRAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAD FROM THE, THE MAYOR.
I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION, PUT, PUT ON THE RADAR.
STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE COUNCIL IS COMING UP NOVEMBER 4TH, AND THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WE REALLY WOULD WELCOME, UH, FOLKS PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AT 8:00 AM OUT AT THE WATER RESOURCE TREATMENT CENTER.
AND I'M SURE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
I JUST WANNA MENTION TONIGHT, UH, THIS IS THE MOST, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MM-HMM.
AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
UM, AND THEN I, I WAS ALSO THANKFUL THAT ANYBODY VIEWING OR OR OUR VISITORS HERE GOT A GLIMPSE OF WHAT OUR CITIZEN COMMITTEES DO.
AND WE'VE GOT AT LEAST 26 OF THEM, I THINK.
AND, UH, WE SERVE ON SOME OF THOSE COMMITTEES AND, AND A LOT OF CITIZENS DO.
AND SO WE DON'T DO, WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS IN A VACUUM.
UM, AND SO, UH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WE DO RUNS THROUGH SOME TYPE OF COMMITTEE BEFORE IT COMES TO US.
AND THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT WE ALL BELIEVE IN.
SO, UH, I WAS REALLY KIND OF FOCUSING ON THAT TOO.
AND PUT A PLUG IN IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON ONE OF THOSE 26 COMMITTEES FOR WEBSITE.
THERE IS A, AN EASY, UH, ONLINE APPLICATION.
AND WE ALL, AS WE'RE MAKING THOSE APPOINTMENTS, LOOK THROUGH THOSE APP APPLICATIONS CAREFULLY.
WELL, COUNCIL, NOW THE COMMENTS.
HOW ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 12? ADJOURNMENT.
WE MEETING TO HERE BY JOINING.