Nov 08, 2022 Planning Commission

SORRY.

SO YES, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WORRIED ABOUT THE TREES, AND WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT YES, JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AROUND THERE.

AND WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT, UH, THE TYPE OF HOMES THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT.

UH, AND WE'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT FUTURE LAND, UH, AND HOME PRICES.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE VALUE OF OUR LAND TOO.

UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PLANTS FOR RETENTION POND, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND OUR AREA.

UM, I THINK YOU CALLED THE CITY AND GOT A PRINTOUT.

AND SO THAT LOOKS PRETTY COOL.

WE'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT AND, UM, WE JUST WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT IT AND HOPE WE COULD DO BIGGER LOTS.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE BIGGER LOTS INSTEAD OF JUST HALF ACRE.

MM-HMM.

JUST TO THE SOUTH.

UH, THE HIGH, HIGH POINT JUST GOT APPROVED AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE BOTTOM THERE.

AND THOSE ARE ALL FIVE ACRE LOTS.

SO WE WERE REALLY HOPING THERE'D BE THREE TO FIVE ACRE LOTS THERE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING

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HALF ACRE.

SO IT WORRIES US AND WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH TABOR.

WE KNOW THE NORTH SIDE'S ALL GONE.

THEY PROBABLY GET CLEARED TOO.

WE KNOW TABOR HAS BOUGHT ALL THAT UP THERE.

UH, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN SORGHUM MILL, UH, IN DOUGLAS WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE THERE, BUT IT'S ALL, EVERYTHING'S JUST BEING LEVELED.

SO WE'RE JUST, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY TREES CAN'T BE LEFT.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST BOUGHT, MOM JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE IN ASHBURY OAKS.

HOUSES WERE BUILT IN ASFORD OAKS.

ASFORD OAKS INTO THE NINETIES, AND A LOT OF TREES WERE LEFT.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL OAK TREES IN THERE AND, AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE HOUSES CAN'T BE BUILT WITH TREES BEING LEFT.

AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS AN EAST ADMIN THING.

I THINK THIS IS THE REASON I THINK I SPEAK PRETTY COMFORTABLY FOR MOST EAST ERS THAT WE MOVED OUT THERE FOR THE TREES AND THE HILLS AND THE SECLUSION OF IT.

VERY MUCH SO.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY THAT WAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU .

AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO, TO ASK A QUESTION? I, YES SIR.

SIR CHRIS ROUTE.

I LIVE ON POST ROAD BY SECOND STREET, AND I THINK WE'RE IN THE LAKE ARCADIA PLAT DISTRICT.

SO WE'RE 90,000 SQUARE FEET FOR OUR MINIMUM LIFE SIZE.

THIS ONE SAYS IT WAS ONE ACRE, SO THERE'S NO VARIANCE TO BRING IT DOWN TO A HALF ACRE.

YOU'RE NOT IN THE OUR CAR LAKE DISTRICT.

AND THIS, THIS SIDE IS NOT NO, NO, NO.

I AM, I'M TELLING YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE.

SO I LIVE JUST SOUTH ON POST ROAD AND POST ROAD FROM SECOND STREET TO THERE.

IT'S FINE TO DANFORTH NORTH OF DANFORTH POST ROAD'S.

HORRIBLE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS ON ROAD IMPROVEMENT? IF NOT, AND THEN I WAS JUST WONDERING, I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE ACRE.

LOTS IS, SO NO VARIANCE IS REQUIRED TO GO TO HALF ACRE NOW.

THE PED WAS APPROVED IN 2007.

THAT ALLOWED HALF ACRE LOTS OH.

FOR THAT AREA.

THANKS SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? WOULD THE DEVELOPER WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE TREES? AND, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S ALREADY A TREE PRESERVATION POLICY IN EFFECT AND, BUT, UH, MY NAME'S DEREK TURNER.

I'M A TURNER COMPANY.

UH, WE REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER ON THE PROJECT AND WE HAVE MACARTHUR ENGINEERING HERE WITH US TOO.

DO YOU HAVE THE COLOR? DO YOU HAVE THE, THE MAP DESCRIPTION OF IT? UM, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH TREES TOO.

UH, THE TREES ARE WHERE THAT'S WHAT ADDS TO VALUE.

UH, DID YOU HAVE THE, DID YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT WAS THE GREEN VERSION? YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ONE UP.

AH, WELL WE DON'T HAVE THAT ONE.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN THE BUFFERS, THE BARRICADES, UH, IN AND AROUND THE PROPERTIES.

THE, THE ENTIRE PARAMETER OR AROUND THE EDGE, EDGE OF THE PROPERTY WAS ALL BUFFERED OFF ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CORNER.

IF YOU COULD SHOW THE BOTTOM PART TWO, THERE IS A DETENTION FACILITY THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

AND SO THERE'S A LARGE AREA IN HERE THAT WILL NOT BE BUILT ON.

WE ARE NOT CLEAR CUTTING THIS.

I KNOW EVERYBODY'S REALLY AFRAID OF ALL THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT IN EAST SEVEN.

THESE LOTS DON'T REQUIRE THAT.

WE'LL SIMPLY TAKE THE TREES DOWN WHERE THE STREETS ARE AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS.

AND WE USE A LOT.

UM, TYPICALLY WE USE A LOT, UH, ENVELOPE TYPE SYSTEM WHEN WE'RE DOING ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT THAT'S IN THE RESTRICTIVE CABINETS THAT IT'LL SAY WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

SO TREES ARE A MAJOR, UH, MAJOR ISSUE FOR US THAT WE WANT THOSE JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

SO, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, WE, WE COMPLY WITH THE, THE NEW ORDINANCE FOR THE GREEN SPACE AND THE TREE PRESERVATION AND ALL THAT.

SO WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S BEING ASKED.

AND AS FAR AS THIS TREE GOES, WE WILL BE WIDENING.

WE'LL HAVE TO WIDEN THAT.

I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL REQUEST US TO WIDEN THE, UH, AT LEAST OUR HALF OF THE STREET OUT AT THE FRONT ON COFFEE CREEK.

WE APPRECIATE THAT MR. TURNER.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? AND RANDY, REMIND ME ON THE TREE PRESERVATION, IT'S 20% OF THE, SO, SO THIS ONE'S UNIQUE BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED IN THE P THAT HAD A, A SET ASIDE IN THAT PDD FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT OF 297 ACRES, I BELIEVE.

UH, SO THAT COUNTS TOWARDS THE TREE PRESERVATION FOR ALL OF WOODLAND PARK.

ITEM FIVE C, CASE NUMBER Z 22 1 7 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM C2 MEDIUM DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY TO P U D PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SQUARE, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WEST MAIN AND NORTH STORY CASTLE CUSTOM HOMES LLC AS THE APPLICANT.

DO ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SCENE? NONE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.

IT IS FINISHED HERE TONIGHT.

THAT

[C. Case #Z22-00017 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “C-2” Medium Density Multi-Family to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for The Square, located on the northeast corner of W. Main and N. Story. (Castle Custom Homes LLC) ]

BRINGS US TO

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IT'S THE APPLICANT.

APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A P U D ON THE CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND STORY, UH, THAT AKIN HAS BEEN ACTIVELY REDEVELOPING THE AREA AROUND CHITWOOD PARK AND THIS REQUEST IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE PED PROPOSED A MIXED USE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 20,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

THREE STORIES TALL.

UH, THE BUILDING WILL INCLUDE A MIX OF RETAIL SPACE ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND UP TO 16 APARTMENTS ABOVE.

UH, THE NORTH AND EAST OF THIS SITE IS ZONE C2 MEDIUM DENSITY, UH, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND ARE PART OF THE, UH, ADVOCATES.

UH, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO THE WEST AND SOUTH ARE PUBLIC PARKS.

UH, THE P U D IS INDICATING THAT ON STREET PARKING WILL BE USED AND, UH, SERVE THE BUILDING ON STORY IN MAINE.

UH, THE EDMOND PLAN 2018 DESIGNATES THE AREA'S URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH ARE THE AREAS THAT ACT AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE MORE INTENSE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AND THE LESS DENSE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING RETAIL AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CURRENTLY HAVE QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME? C.

NONE.

WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? QUESTION.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? C? NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME? DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND.

AND ITEM FIVE C IS APPROVED BY VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.

THAT WILL BE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON 1128.

[D. Case #Z22-00018 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “A” Single-Family to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for West End, located on the west side of Kelly & Main Street. (Castle Custom Homes LLC) ]

THAT BRINGS US TO THE NEXT ITEM, CASE NUMBER Z 22 8 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO P U D PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR WEST END, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF KELLY IN MAIN STREET.

AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS CASTLE CUSTOM HOMES AND THEY ARE PRESENT.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A P U D ON THE WEST SIDE OF KELLY, UH, JUST WEST OF THE BARNETT FIELDS PARK.

UH, TO THE NORTH IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND TO THE WEST IS A NEW DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS CHATEAU QUARTZ.

UH, TO THE SOUTH IS A MIX MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT CALLED KELLY CROSSING, WHICH INCLUDES RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY USE.

UH, THE ALMOST TWO ACRE, UH, SITE HAS LIMITED ACCESS ON THE KELLY CAN ONLY ONLY ACCESS AT ONE POINT.

THERE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO P U D THAT WILL ALLOW PERSONAL STORAGE USES BUT ALSO ALLOW E ONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

UH, THE P D DOES NOT OR DOES PROHIBIT MORE INTENSE USES SUCH AS GROCERY STORES, THRIFT STORES, INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, ET CETERA.

UH, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWS STORAGE BUILDINGS THAT LINE THE PROPERTY, UH, WITH A 70 FOOT BUFFER TO THE WEST, WHICH INCLUDES THE DETENTION AREA.

UH, IF THE SITE WAS TO DEVELOP AS ANYTHING BUT STORAGE, THE P UD WILL NEED TO BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THE NEW MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UH, THE EDMUND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS SUBURBAN INFILL, WHICH ENCOURAGES P UDS TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL USES ALONG KELLY, INCLUDING PERSONAL STORAGE SEEM APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE EXISTING INTENSITIES OF THE COMMERCIAL, PARTICULARLY TO THE SOUTH.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE QUESTION OF STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? IF NOT, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD? DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT SCENE? NONE.

UH, ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND.

THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY VOTE TO FOUR TO ZERO.

IT WILL ALSO BE AT THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 28TH.

THAT

[E. Case #Z22-00019 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “A” Single-Family to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for The Kelly, located on the southeast corner of Kelly & 1st Street. (Castle Custom Homes LLC) ]

BRINGS THIS TO ITEM FIVE E, CASE NUMBER Z 22 9 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO P U D PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE KELLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF KELLY IN FIRST STREET.

AGAIN, CASTLE CUSTOM HOMES LLC IS THE APPLICANT.

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MR. ENDS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A P D FOR THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF KELLY IN FIRST STREET TO BE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, SORRY, UH, WHICH WOULD ALLOW A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT MISUSE BUILDING WITH COMMERCIAL USES, UH, LIVE WORK UNITS AND RESIDENTIAL IN THAT BUILDING.

UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENCES IS CAPPED AT 20.

UH, THE AREA SURROUNDING IT IS A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO THE EAST, NORTH, AND SOUTH WITH KELLY CROSSING TO THE WEST, UH, DIRECTLY WEST OF THIS IS THE RECENTLY APPROVED CULTURE CAR WASH.

UH, FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK IS A VACANT PROPERTY ZONED TO E ONE AND E TWO ALONG KELLY.

UH, E TWO IS THE OPEN DISPLAY COMMERCIAL USES.

UH, THE MASTER PLAN SHOWS THE BUILDING ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE PARKING IN FRONT, UH, WITH ACCESS FROM AN APPROVED ALLEY ON THE SOUTH AND ONE DRIVE ONTO FIRST STREET.

UH, THE EDMUND PLAN 2018 DESIGNATES AREAS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHICH ARE AREAS THAT ARE ACT AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE MORE INTENSE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AND THE LESS DENSE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ARE CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

DO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? AND WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER? DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT SCENE? NONE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND ITEM.

FIVE E IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO AND THAT WILL AGAIN BE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER THE 28TH.

THAT BRINGS

[F. Case #SP22-00037 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan for Stedmond Storij, located on the northwest corner of 33rd and Technology Drive. (Johnson & Associates) ]

US TO ITEM FIVE F, CASE NUMBER SP 2237 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR TEDMAN STORAGE LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 33RD IN TECHNOLOGY DRIVE.

JOHNSON AND ASSOCIATES IS THE APPLICANT AND IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, THEY ARE.

APPLICANT SEEKING APPROVAL OF A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN FOR A STORAGE FACILITY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 33RD.

UH, JUST WEST OF TECHNOLOGY DRIVE.

THE SITE IS ZONED TO F1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ALLOWS THE STORAGE USE.

NOW THE SITE IS 4.3 ACRES AND THE PLAN SHOWS TWO 49,900 SQUARE FEET BUILDINGS, WHICH WILL CONTAIN PERSONAL STORAGE UNITS INTERIOR TO THE BUILDINGS.

NOW THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL PARK USES, INCLUDING THE GARAGE CONDOS TO THE EAST, WHICH IS ALSO STORAGE, UH, ACROSS 33RD STREET TO THE SOUTH IS A LARGE WAREHOUSE BUILDING.

UH, THE SITE MEETS THE LANDSCAPING AND OTHER SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS EXCEPT FOR TWO VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.

ONE IS TO THE BUILDING MATERIALS.

THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING EACH BUILDING AS A FULLY METAL BUILDING MADE OF WHITE ARCHITECTURAL METAL WITH CERAMIC COATING.

UH, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES 50% OF ANY ALLOWED METAL BUILDING FACING IN AN ARCH ARTERIAL WILL BE 50% NON-ED.

UH, THE SECOND IS TO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM 33RD STREET.

THE SOUTHERN SETBACK IS REQUIRED TO BE 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

UH, THE BUILDINGS AS SHOWN, ARE ONLY 38 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH.

THIS DOES, HOWEVER, PUT THEM MORE IN LINE WITH THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ALONG 33RD ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS SITE.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES.

DO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SO RANDY, THE SETBACK BACK ON THE BUILD THE GARAGE CONDOS TO THE EAST OR IS 38 OR LESS? IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 28.

SO YEAH, THAT BUILDING OVER HERE IS ABOUT 28 FEET.

THEN THESE BUILDINGS ARE CLOSER TO 12 OVER HERE.

SO IT HAS PROPOSED, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A METAL WHITE BUILDING UP FRONT.

NOT THE, NOT WHAT CODE HAS YEAH, THERE'S THE IMAGES OF IT THERE.

AT LEAST TELL YOU THAT IT'S THE MOST ATTRACTIVE PERSONAL STORAGE UNITS THAT THEY HAVE.

WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE PROJECT? YEAH.

BRIEF 5 42 DRIVE, UH, WITH ME OR THE, THE DEVELOPERS AS WELL AS, UH, MARK ZZA WITH JOHNSON ASSOCIATES.

UM, SO STAFF'S IDENTIFIED THE, THE VARIANCE FOR THE SETBACK WAS JUST TO BE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER, UH, EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THAT BLOCK, UH, TO CREATE SOME CONTINUITY WITH THAT, THAT VISUAL IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE VARIOUS OF THE MATERIAL.

UM, IF STAFF COULD GO BACK TO THE, THERE WE GO.

UM, SO THIS, UH, IS KIND OF PART OF THEIR BRAND.

SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND, AND AROUND THE METRO.

UH, IT IS NOT YOUR OLD FASHIONED UGLY CORRUGATED METAL.

IT'S A CERAMIC COATED METAL, UH, THAT IS IN LINE WITH, WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, PROMOTE ACROSS THE METRO.

SO, UM, THE FIRST ONE WE DID WAS IN OKLAHOMA CITY, RIGHT AROUND 63RD.

AND, UH, WESTERN, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE, THEN THERE WAS SOME CONCERN BECAUSE IT WAS METAL.

NOW THAT IT'S UP, UH, I THINK THE, THE PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA CITY WOULD

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SO WHEN PEOPLE HEAR METAL, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO TO, UH, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD ASSUME, THE OLD CORRUGATED METAL.

THIS IS NOT THAT.

UM, THE REASON THEY WANT THE METAL IS BECAUSE IT IS, UH, THE BRAND THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE ALL OVER, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS PORTION OF THE CITY.

SO IT'S A DURABLE PRODUCT.

UH, IT'S A PRODUCT THAT KEEPS UP.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY, ANY PROBLEMS IN ANY OTHER, UH, APPLICATIONS WE'VE HAD.

STEPH DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YEAH, QUICK QUESTION, DAVID.

UM, I GUESS IT'S THE ONLY BUILDING IN THE AREA THAT'S NOT, UH, MASONRY CONCRETE BRICK.

UM, IT'S MORE WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF IS MORE OF THE BRAND.

YES, SIR.

AND IT'S, UH, FLAT SURFACE ATTRACTIVE LOOKING.

UM, WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE IN ABOUT 10 YEARS? WELL, BECAUSE IT'S CERAMIC COATED, UM, IT IS, UH, PROTECTED.

WE HAD A, A CASE IN FRONT OF OKLAHOMA CITY, UH, IN FRONT OF A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHERE WE HAD TO APPEAL A DECISION OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL.

UM, AND WHAT WE DISCOVERED THROUGH THE RESEARCH AND THAT, AND WAS PRESENTED OKLAHOMA CITY BUILDING OFFICIALS IS IT'S MORE DURABLE, UH, THAN MOST OTHER PRODUCTS BECAUSE IT'S CERAMIC COATED.

UH, SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE MANNER IN WHICH THAT PROCESS HAPPENS, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE DURABLE.

HOW DOES IT KEEP ITS COLOR? WHY IS IT FADE? LIKE S A 30 YEAR CODING.

30 YEAR CODING.

AND WE'D BE, I'D BE HAPPY TO OFFLINE SUBMIT ALL THAT TO STAFF SO YOU HAVE IT.

BUT THAT'S FINE.

IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT TO THE NEXT MEETING AND GET THAT INFORMATION TO US? ADDITIONALLY? I KNOW THERE WAS ONLY THE ONE LOCATION THAT WAS DISCLOSED IN OUR PACKET REGARDING WHERE A BUILDING WAS BEING PUT UP LIKE THAT, WHICH WAS IN THE OAKDALE AREA.

AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO GO LOOK AT IT.

I WOULD, I WOULD GO AND, AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, GO LOOK AT THE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL HAVE BUILT OR YOUR CLIENTS HAVE BUILT OVER ON 63RD AND WESTERN.

SO LOOK, LET ME ASK, SO THE, THE PICTURES ON THE, THE BOTTOM TWO AND THEN THE ONE UP, THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL IMAGES OF THEIR, UH, THEIR PROJECT IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

UM, THAT'S THE OAK GILL OR THE NICHOLS HILLS? THAT'S THE NICHOLS HILLS ONE.

SO WE WILL, UH, AGREE TO TWO WEEKS.

UM, IT, IT'S THE SAME MATERIAL.

UM, WE'D LIKE TO TO MOVE FORWARD THAT THIS EVENING AS POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, STAFF HASN'T INDICATED ANY CONCERNS, UM, OR OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO, TO MOVE IT FORWARD THIS EVENING.

WELL, AND MY, MY CONCERN IS WITH IT BEING ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL STREET, UH, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE.

AND AGAIN, WITH THE VARIANCE, WE HAVE TRIED TO BE, I THINK, FAIRLY CON CONSISTENT WITH THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS.

I MEAN, THERE'S ONE THAT WAS BUILT OUT ON, UH, THE CORNER OF DANFORTH, UH, RECENTLY THAT THEY ENDED UP BRICKING THE ENTIRE OUTSIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, JUST THE LOCATION CAUSES ME A LITTLE CONCERN.

AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO HAVE IT HEARD TONIGHT AND, AND HAVE US VOTE ON IT IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DEMAND.

UNDERSTOOD.

WHEN, WHEN IS YOUR NEXT MEETING? TWO WEEKS, 22ND.

NOVEMBER 22ND.

UH, MAYBE, LET'S SEE REAL QUICK IF THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK.

OKAY, SOUNDS GREAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE EITHER SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? YES, SIR.

QUESTIONS, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

I'M, I DRIVE A SCHOOL BUS TOO NOW, BUT, UH, MY NAME'S CHRIS CARLSON.

I'M THE DEVELOPER OF GARAGE CONDOS TO THE, TO THE EAST.

UH, MY QUESTION IS WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT IS, UH, ON THAT STREET, WHAT IS THE CITY'S PLAN OR HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? IT'S ALREADY A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THERE.

UH, THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS MY OWNERS WITH GARAGE CONDOS, UH, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY IS MAINTAINED.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE BUILDINGS ARE BEAUTIFUL.

UH, WE WERE, WE WE SURELY COULD HAVE MADE THOSE, UH, METAL, UH, THAT COULD, THAT WAS SOMETHING.

BUT WE WENT WITH TILT WALL, REALLY NICE STRUCTURES.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE DUE WEST OF WHERE OUR PROJECT IS.

AND SO, UH, THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS IS WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, HOW'S THAT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? HOW MANY UNITS ARE THERE? AND THEN SECONDLY, THE, THE VISUAL ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY.

THAT'S IT.

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UH, AND I'LL, I WILL SEND, UH, MR. ENS THE, THE DETAILS ON THE, THE MATERIAL.

I WOULD GREATLY, GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT? ASK YOU A QUESTION? WELL ASK THAT QUESTION.

CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY UNITS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SINCE THE ONE GENTLEMAN HAD ASKED? SO THEY'RE IN, UNLIKE A TRADITIONAL PERSONAL STORAGE WHERE, UH, PEOPLE ACCESS IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, UH, ALL CIRCULATION HAPPENS INTERIOR.

MM-HMM.

UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT BUILT OUT LIKE A TRADITIONAL PERSONAL STORAGE.

LIKE THE BOTTOM ONE IS, LIKE THE BOTTOM ONE IS YOUR TRADITIONAL, YOU RENT THAT SPACE, YOU COME TO THE OUTSIDE, OPEN YOUR OVERHEAD DOOR.

IT'S TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE JUST UNDER 50,000 SQUARE FOOT EACH.

SO IT'S ALL INTERNAL HOW IT HAPPENS.

CAUSE I, I SAW ON THE PLANS THAT YOU ALL SUBMITTED ARE THE DRAWINGS, THE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS INSIDE.

BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY UNITS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INSIDE APPROXIMATELY 4 73.

473 INDIVIDUAL UNITS.

BRINGS US TO CASE NUMBER Z 2124 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO P U D PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR FROST AUTO ACCESSORIES EXTENSION LOCATED AT 46 18 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.

MM-HMM.

, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS.

ONE SECOND.

AND THAT IS CONTINUE TO THE NOVEMBER 22ND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.

AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES

[G. Case #Z21-00024 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “A” Single-Family to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for Frost Auto Accessories Extension, located at 4618 Rhode Island Ave. (Frost Holdings LLC) ]

FROST HOLDINGS IS THE APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

MR. ANZ.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF A P D ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF RHODE ISLAND AND MEMORIAL ROAD.

UH, CURRENTLY THE LOT IS ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY A PART OF THE LAW THAT FACED MEMORIAL HAD TWO LOTS TO THE EAST.

UM, LOTS TO THE WEST AND NORTH ARE, UH, ZONED AND USED AS SINGLE FAMILY.

UH, TO THE EAST IS A STORAGE FACILITY AND APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH LIES IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

UH, TO THE SOUTH IS THE FROST AUTOMOTIVE AND A REAL ESTATE OFFICE.

UH, THE AREA, PARTICULARLY THE PROPERTIES FACING MEMORIAL, HAVE BEEN CHANGING OVER FOR SOME TIME.

UH, THE P D WOULD EXTEND THE CURRENT FROST AUTOMOTIVE SITE TO THE NORTH.

UH, EXPAND THAT USE AND INCLUDE A FUTURE BUILDING AND THE STORAGE OF BOATS, RVS, AND VEHICLES.

UH, THE EDMUND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH RECOMMENDS PDS FOR ANYTHING, NOT RESIDENTIAL.

SO COMPATIBILITY CAN BE ACHIEVED.

ACCESS WILL BE FROM THE EXISTING FROST AUTOMOTIVE SITE.

UM, THE PD COMMITS TO A 70 FOOT SETBACK ON THE NORTH WITH A SIX FOOT SITE PROOF FENCE AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT BOUNDARY.

THE PD ALSO STATES THAT NO LATE LIGHTING WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE NORTH.

UH, THE PD ALSO STATES THE BUILDING WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.

UH, THERE MAY BE METAL WITH WAYNES COATING ON THE BOTTOM.

THIRD, UH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THIS, UH, YOU SAW THIS IN DECEMBER OF TWO, UH, 2021 AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

UH, THE ITEM WAS NEVER HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL AND IT'S NOW GOING BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SEEING NONE.

I'M SORRY.

ANY CHANGES FROM THAT TIME? RANDY VIDEO MEMBER THAT YOU CAN THINK OF IDENTIFIED.

SO THERE WERE CHANGES THAT WERE KIND OF DISCUSSED WHEN IT WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS.

SO THOSE WERE THEN INCORPORATED INTO THE P D.

SO NOTHING SINCE THAT TIME.

LOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO HIS EXISTING BUSINESS.

UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING SHE DOESN'T WATCH? I MADE BRIEFLY.

I'M DAVID DOBSON IN SUPPORT OF, UH, MR. FROST'S APPLICATION, AS THE COMMISSION RECOGNIZES FROM WHAT MR. ENZ JUST INDICATED, THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, APPROVED, UH, THIS REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE.

MR. FROST HAS BEEN IN HIS PRESENT LOCATION ON MEMORIAL ROADS IN HIS 2016, BOUGHT A DILAPIDATED HOUSE THERE AT THAT TIME, UH, SOUGHT A VARIANCE, UH, RECEIVED A VARIANCE AND CREATED A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, UH, FROST AUTOMOTIVE ACCESSORIES AND DESIGN, UH, SUCCESSFUL TO THIS DAY AND A AND A TESTAMENT TO, UH, TO HIS ABILITY AND HARD WORK.

UM, IN FACT, IN 2019, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF EDMUND OKLAHOMA NAMED HIM THE SMALL BUSINESS OF THE YEAR.

UM, MR. FROST AND HIS BUSINESS ARE CLEARLY RESPECTED STEWARDS IN THE CITY OF EDMUND AND ARE IMPORTANT TO ITS ONGOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IN 2021, MR. FROST PURCHASED A ONE ACRE VACANT

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AND HE PLANS TO CREATE A SMALL RV AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS REZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS THE ONE BEFORE YOU, UH, THIS EVENING WAS PRESENTED, WAS HEARD AND WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION ABOUT A YEAR AGO, DECEMBER 7TH, 2021.

THEREAFTER, MR. NCE, UH, WITH THE CITY PLANNER'S OFFICE WROTE TO THE CITY MANAGER ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

UM, UH, AS MR. ENZ INDICATED, UH, IN JANUARY, IT CAME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, SOME NEIGHBORS RAISED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ENCROACHMENT INTO THE LEVIT NORTH PARK EDITION.

THE COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY DEFERRED A VOTE ASKING THAT MR. FROST ENDEAVOR TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS.

UH, MR. FROST HAS SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE CONFIRMED THEIR SUPPORT OF HIS ENDEAVOR.

AND SO WE'RE BACK BEFORE THIS COMMISSION TODAY, UH, WITH, UH, MODIFIED RENDERINGS.

UM, MR. FROST JUST INDICATED TO ME THAT MAYBE WHAT WAS SHOWN WAS NOT WHAT QUITE EXACT WHAT HE WAS EXPECTING.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, INITIALLY THERE WAS A QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE WOULD BE OPEN SPACE FOR BOATS OR RVS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

NOT ANYMORE.

ALL COVERED.

AND INITIALLY THE STORAGE WAS GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND HAS NOW BEEN MOVED TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, FURNISHING A 70 PLUS FOOT SETBACK FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY LINE TO, TO THE NORTH.

UH, AND AGAIN, AS MR INS INDICATED, NO ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAYS ANY ACCESS TO THIS, TO THIS NEW FACILITY WOULD BE VIA MEMORIAL OR RHODE ISLAND'S, UH, EXISTING ENTRANCES INTO FROST AUTOMOTIVE.

SO IT'S JUST AN EXTENSION OF THAT.

SO, UH, NO ADDITIONAL INFERENCES ON EITHER, UH, MEMORIAL OR, UH, ROCK ISLAND.

AND SO AS A RESULT, UM, MR. FROST RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THAT THE COMMITTEE, UH, APPROVE HIS REQUEST AGAIN AND THAT HE BE PERMITTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A HEARING FOR THE EDMUND CITY COUNCIL TO OBTAIN FINAL APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL SERVE TO ACCELERATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF EDMUND.

AND I THANK YOU.

AND JUST ONE OTHER THING, UH, RANDY, DO YOU GUYS RECEIVE THESE PHOTOS OF THE RENDERING OF THE NEW RENDERING OF THE I DID NOT.

I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF DID.

DRIVEWAY TO WHERE, UH, IT WOULD BE PALATABLE, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MEET FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR DRIVING ON THERE HAS TO BE SO MANY POUNDS, UH, PER, PER FOOT.

I'LL SEND IT BE IN MY PORTAL.

SO THIS SHOULD BE IN THERE.

SO I CAN PASS THESE AROUND AND SHOW YOU SOME RENDERING OF WHAT THE GONNA LOOK LIKE.

AND AGAIN, LIKE HE SAYS, THERE'S NO OUTSIDE PARKING AT ALL.

CAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE TOTALLY ENCLOSED, UH, LANDSCAPED.

AND ALSO IT WOULD BE A PRIVACY FENCE.

SO IF, IF, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE BUILDING, THEN I CAN, UH, IT SHOWS A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE ACROSS, UH, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALSO.

SO WITH THE FENCE BEING THERE, THE BUILDING BEING MOVED TO THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT SHOULD, UH, THAT SHOULD HELP ALL THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER HUS, PLEASE? YES.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME BY MEMBERS OF STAFF? JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, THE ONE REASON I VOTED AGAINST IT FOR THE FIRST TIME WAS THE DRIVE, UH, CUZ IT WAS GRAVEL, IS THERE WAS SOME INDICATION THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE OKAY IN THE WRITEUP.

IS THAT, WHY WOULDN'T YOU PAVE THAT? I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A, UH, I THINK IT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, A SEALED SURFACE, UH, PORTION OF IT, UH, WAS PAVED.

THE, THE EXISTING, UH, RIGHT OFF OF RHODE ISLAND, MY EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS, UH, CEMENT.

BUT AS, AS NORTH OF THAT BUILDING, THEN IT BECOMES GRAVEL JUST FOR COST EFFECTIVENESS.

UH, THAT'S WHY NO ONE I DROVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S, UH, IF I CAN REMEMBER RIGHT, ABOUT 12 HOMES ALREADY THAT'S THERE, THERE'S A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.

AND SO I'M THINKING THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT EITHER, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE EDMUND CITY ORDINANCES.

AND I'VE TALKED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY'VE INDICATED HOW THICK THE GRAVEL HAS TO BE AND PAVED.

AND SO I'VE GOTTEN INFORMATION ON HOW IT NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED AND CONSTRUCTED AS FAR AS THE GRAVEL

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SO I WILL MEET ALL OF THOSE, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR THE CITY ALSO.

AND DID YOU SAY THAT THE WEST SIDE WAS GONNA BE FENCED AS WELL WITH THE SITE PROOF FENCE? UH, YES.

THE WEST, UH, SIDE, WHICH IS WHICH SPACES? UH, RHODE ISLAND.

UH, WOULD BE A PRIVATE FENCE.

AND, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE YOU'RE INDICATING NOW THERE IS NO OUTDOOR PARKING WHATSOEVER IN D U D.

YOU'VE ALSO INDICATED THAT THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDINGS IS DIFFERENT.

BUT EVERYTHING IN MY PACKET SHOWS IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT IS AM, AM I NOT LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY? IT SHOWS OUTDOOR PARKING ON THE, UH, THE NORTH SIDE.

ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WELL, THAT'S, UH, WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.

CAUSE I, I HAD EVERYTHING IN MY PORTAL, UH, TO SHOW THE NEW, UH, RENDERING AND IT WAS MOVED TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

I'VE GOT IT, I'VE GOT IT HERE ON THE PAPERS.

SO IT ALL SHOWS ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY SPECIFICATION.

SO, SO THIS IS THE DRAWING WE RECEIVED.

SO IT DOES SHOW THE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.

IT GIVES IT TO 70 FEET OR THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DRIVE.

SORRY.

SO THIS IS RHODE ISLAND HERE, UH, MEMORIAL HERE FOR ORIENTATION EXISTING BUILDING IN THIS AREA.

I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RANDY, THAT PIECE TO THE, THE GRAVEL.

SEE THERE'S SOME WRITING RIGHT THERE IN THE RED THAT SAYS THAT SHOWS OPEN OUTDOOR PARKING.

DID WE RECEIVE AN UPDATED DRAWING OF THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE? IS THAT, UH, YES, THAT WAS A UPDATED DRAWING OF THAT.

SO IS THAT COVERED OR IS THAT JUST NONEXISTENT? THERE? THAT'S NONE.

THAT'S NOTHING THERE.

IT'S JUST, JUST GRASS ACTUALLY.

IN FACT, ON THOSE PICTURES THAT I SHOWED YOU, UH, IT INDICATES THAT JUST GRASS THERE ON THOSE PHOTOS YES.

THAT INDICATES THAT GRASS.

THEN ON THE FENCE, SIR, I THOUGHT IN THE LAST TIME WE CAME THROUGH, I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT FOR EIGHT FOOT FENCE, BUT MAYBE I WAS MISTAKEN.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT THE LAST TIME WE CAME THROUGH ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WAS A PRIVACY FENCE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS AGREED UPON WITH EIGHT FOOT.

UM, I COULD BE MISTAKEN.

BUT WHAT DID, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY FURTHER CONVERS, I KNOW YOU'RE PROPOSING AT SIX, BUT RIGHT, THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT.

IT WAS, UH, WE ARE PROPOSED THAT I WOULD PUT UP A FENCE.

ACTUALLY I WAS GONNA PUT UP A ROD IRON FENCE IF YOU CAN GO BY.

CAUSE I LISTENED TO THE TAPE FROM THEN AND MY PROPOSAL WAS A BLACK ROD IRON FENCE WITH, UH, WITH TREES AND SHRUBBERY IN THE MIDDLE, A LINE IN IT.

BUT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS SAYS HE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING.

SO I SAID, OKAY, I'LL JUST PUT UP A PRIVACY FENCE.

SO, BUT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS HOW HIGH, BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE EIGHT, I'LL DO EIGHT.

BUT NO, I JUST ASKED FIRST REASON.

I THOUGHT I REMEMBER THAT BEING A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I KNOW THE FENCING'S ALWAYS A CONVERSATION EVERY DEAL WE TAKE.

AND THEN ON PAGE FOUR OF YOUR, UH, P U D UNDER PARKING REGULATIONS, IT SPECIFICALLY STILL PROVIDES, THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN 15 OUTDOOR PARKING SPACES PROVIDED IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE TONIGHT.

NOW I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WHAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR PACKET IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US WE'RE VOTING ON.

WELL, I'M TELLING YOU, THERE'S NO OUTDOOR PARKING.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

RIGHT? I SO WE CAN, SO WE CAN DELETE THAT FROM THE P U D CONVERSATION FOR YOU.

IS THAT ALLOWABLE? YES.

WE WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL IF APPROVED.

VISIBILITY ROUTE TO THE WEST.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF, UH, THE COMMISSION THAT HAVE ANY QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SCENE? NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? UH, YES SIR.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

UM, THANKS FOR YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY NAME'S TOM SQUIRES.

I'M A RESIDENT AND A PROPERTY OWNER ON RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.

I WANNA SPEAK TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF OR REPRESENTING, UM, A GREAT NUMBER.

IN FACT A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE RHODE ISLAND, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS.

UM, WE ARE THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS.

IT'S OUR ROPE.

IF WE COULD, UM, SHOW THE OVERHEAD, UM, VIEW OF THE, THERE WE GO.

IT'S OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S MOST IMPACTED.

WE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD DRIVE BY THIS PARKING LOT EVERY DAY ON OUR WAY HOME.

UH, WE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD HAVE TO CONTEND WITH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, UH, CONGESTION, ESPECIALLY LARGE VEHICLES TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY ONTO MEMORIAL AT THE TOP OF A VERY, UH, UH, A LIMITED, UM,

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OR AS TRAFFIC COMES TO THE WEST, WE'RE THE ONES WHO INVESTED IN NEW CONSTRUCTION ADDITIONS AND RE RENOVATIONS ON RHODE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO SELL OUR PROPERTIES, IT'S GONNA BE OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR PROSPECTIVE BUYERS THAT WALK THAT WILL DRIVE BY A COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER PROPERTY OF AN RV PARKING LOT ON THEIR WAY TO SEE OUR HOUSE.

WITH THAT IN MIND, ON DECEMBER 3RD, AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THIS CAME BEFORE THIS SAME PUT WITH, WITH VARIATION AS DISCUSSED TONIGHT.

CAME BEFORE THIS BOARD AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, MR. FROST STATED HE HAD APPROVAL AND CONSENT OF MS. CAROL BARTON, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS LOT.

UH, MS. FROST STATED THAT HE BELIEVED THAT MS. BARTON HAD SENT AN EMAIL OR OTHER COMMUNICATION TO THE CITY OF EDMOND CONFIRMING SUCH.

UH, WHEN I REVIEWED A PACKET OF INFORMATION, INCLUDING ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE BO FROM THE, UH, CITY PLANNING, UM, DEPARTMENT, THERE WAS NO SUCH RECORD.

HE WAS MISTAKEN.

UH, WHEN I CANVASED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RHODE I'M, AND I'M SPEAKING FOR RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.

UM, WHEN I CANVASED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPOKE WITH MS. BARTON, SHE EXPLAINED, UM, UH, AND EXPLAINED ALL THE POINTS TO HER.

UH, IN THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT, SHE STATED CLEARLY THAT, UM, SHE WANTED THE LOT TO REMAIN RESIDENTIAL.

SHE, UH, UNEQUIVOCALLY MENTIONED THAT IT NEEDED TO STAY RESIDENTIAL.

SHE DID NOT UNDERSTAND AT THE TIME THAT THIS CAME UP BEFORE THAT SHE ACTUALLY COULD OPPOSE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

AND SHE AGREED TO SOME LIGHTING EFFECTS OR, UH, LIMITATIONS AND THE, THE, UM, AND THE FENCE.

BUT SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT SHE COULD ACTUALLY SAY NO.

AND WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY SHE DID, AND IN FACT SHE SIGNED A STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION ALONG WITH 25 OTHER OF HER NEIGHBORS, UH, 25 OUT OF 30 ON RHODE ISLAND.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT MR. FROST, WHEN HE SAID MS. BARTON WAS ON BOARD WITH HIS PLAN, PROBABLY HAD A CONSIDERABLE IMPACT ON THIS BOARD.

AND IT WAS IN FACT NOT TRUE.

UM, IN ADDITION, THERE'S ALREADY ZONED, UH, COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY RIGHT NEAR, IN FACT, ACROSS THE STREET ADJACENT TO MR. FROST BUSINESS.

I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT YOU ALL IN FACT WOULD CONSIDER, UH, ALLOWING A COMMERCIAL INTRUSION INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THERE ARE COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES NEARBY THAT COULD BE USED IN THE SAME WAY MR. UH, FROST PURCHASED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, KNOWING FULL WELL IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE RES, THE RHODE ISLAND RESIDENTS CONSIDER IT A COVENANT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THEIR OWN, UM, AND THEMSELVES THAT THEY WOULD DEFEND COMMERCIAL INTRUSION INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

MOST OF US WOULD NEVER PURCHASE A PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT THE VERY REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE LOTS THAT COMPRISED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE MAINTAINED.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON RHODE ISLAND WERE POLLED AND FELT, UH, AS TO HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THIS PROPOSED CHANGE.

AND THERE WAS ONE IN FAVOR, TWO THAT DIDN'T CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THREE THAT WOULDN'T, UH, DIDN'T REPLY TO ME AND 25 THAT OPPOSED THIS.

UH, SO I WANT TO PRESENT A, UH, TWO THINGS, A MAP SHOWING, UH, AND THERE'S FIVE COPIES HERE IF Y'ALL WANNA SEE IT.

I'M NOT SHOWING THANK YOU.

HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL VOTED.

AND I HAVE A PACKET HERE OF ALL, ALL THE SIGNED DECLARATIONS OF OPPOSITION FROM THE NO RESIDENCE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT A FEW OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE IN FAVOR OF IT AND WOULD FIND IT VERY CONVENIENT TO HAVE A PLACE TO PARK THEIR OWN RV OR, OR BOAT, BUT THAT IS NOT AT ALL THE MAJORITY.

A REVIEW OF THE PERP BUILDING PERMITS OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS, IT SHOWED THAT ONE POINT MILLION IN PERMITS WERE ALLOWED, WERE, WERE, UM, APPROVED FOR RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.

AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS REPRESENT NOW A 2.6 MILLION IN, UH, INCREASE IN, IN TAX VALUES.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S LONG BEEN IS IS AT THIS POINT POSED POISED FOR OVERTURN TURNOVER OF QUITE A FEW OF THE LONG TIME RESIDENTS.

AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUED

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IMPROVEMENT INSTEAD OF IMPEDING.

UM, SEVERAL OF THE, UM, HOMEOWNERS ARE NOW REACHING AN AGE WHERE THEY MAY WELL BE LEAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SELLING TO NEW PEOPLE.

AND, AND RENOVATIONS TAKE PLACE WHEN NEW, UM, RESIDENTS BUY.

AND IN FACT, THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE WEST IS IN THAT CONDITION RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS RECENTLY SOLD AND WILL BE RENOVATED.

NOW THOSE TWO LOTS, UH, ARE THREE LOTS ALL ADJACENT TO ONE TO THE NORTHWEST, ONE TO THE NORTH, AND ONE TO THE WEST.

ALL OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS OPPOSE THIS PROPOSAL.

AND IN THE CASE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THAT'S A TWO, TWO-STORY, UH, TWO STORY RESIDENCE.

WHEN THEY LOOK OUT THE UPSTAIRS BEDROOM, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING RIGHT DOWN INTO AN RV PARKING LOT.

AND WHEN THE, UH, PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE LOOK OUT THEIR FRONT WINDOW, THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT A PRIVACY FENCE WITH A PARKING LOT BEHIND IT.

AND MUCH OF THE, UH, WELL I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT RVS THESE DAYS CAN BE TYPICALLY 12 FEET HIGH AND SOMETIMES 14 FEET HIGH.

SO IT'LL BE PRETTY WELL IMPOSSIBLE TO HIDE EVERYTHING BEHIND SUCH A FENCE.

SO I, UH, ASK YOU ALL TONIGHT TO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT THIS IS PROBABLY AN INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY.

IT IS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE TWO LOTS, THE ONE TO THE WEST PLUS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE FINE WITH THE COMMERCIALIZATION ALONG MEMORIAL, BUT WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH IT COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

OH, OOPS.

I HAD ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO HAND YOU, BUT THIS IS A LIST OF THE IMPROVEMENT AND, UH, TAX VALUES OF, OF THE LAST 2012 YEARS.

THANK YOU MR. SQUIRES.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

TIM MCCORMICK.

I LIVE ON RHODE ISLAND ALSO.

UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS A STRUCTURE.

IS THIS A CANOPY OR IS THIS A BUILDING WITH FOUR SIDES AND A DOOR ALSO? CHRISTY DON'T HAVE WELL I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT PDF.

WELL, I'M SHOWING IT TO YOU.

AND FULL BLOWN METAL BUILDINGS IS ACCORDING TO THE PICTURES THAT WE HAVE WITH GARAGE DOORS AND EVERYTHING.

AND AS FAR AS IS THIS STILL GONNA BE A GRAVEL PARKING LOT? THERE ARE NO OUTDOOR STORAGE FACILITIES IN EDMOND THAT HAVEN'T GRAVEL PARKING LOT.

EVERYTHING IS PAVED CONCRETE.

WELL, AND I BELIEVE THEY STATED IT WOULD BE GRAVEL AND RHODE ISLAND AS IT IS NOW AND WILL ALWAYS BE, IS A NARROW ROAD.

I BELIEVE IT'S 18 FEET WIDE TO BE ABLE TO GET AN RV OR A TRUCK AND A BOAT IN AND OUT OF WHERE THAT DRIVE IS LOCATED WILL BE A MAJOR PROBLEM.

REGARDLESS OF HOW WIDE YOU MAKE YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WIDEN THAT DRIVE TO GET A, A TRUCK AND TRAILER IN AND OUT.

REGULARLY WITH PEOPLE WHO PULL BOATS AND TRAILERS IF YOU'VE BEEN TO LAKE ARCADIA .

BUT IT IS, BUT IF IT, IF, IF, BUT THAT SHOWS A BUILDING THAT'S, THAT IS CERTAINLY A CHANGE FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS.

YES, SIR.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT HE HAS STATED.

IT WOULD BE A BUILDING THAT IS ENCLOSED.

THERE WOULD BE NO OUTDOOR PARKING OF ANY TYPE OF ITEMS IN THAT AREA THEY ABANDONED.

WELL WE'RE REMOVING THAT FROM THE P U D AS WELL.

BUT YOU HAVE ALSO RIGHT.

BUT YOU'VE ALSO QUESTIONED WHETHER THERE ARE NINE OUTDOOR SPACES JUST, JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

AND THEY'VE RESPONDED BY STATING THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED AND, AND IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT, IT WOULD BE APPROVED WITH NO OUTDOOR PARKING IN THAT AREA AREA.

WELL IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE FOR ALL OF US TO SEE THE NEW RENDERINGS AS FAR AS WHAT'S PROPOSED.

WELL THANK YOU MR. MCCORMICK.

HAD BEEN, UM, GIVEN APPROVAL IN DECEMBER.

YES MA'AM.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

HELLO LINDA REED AND UM, I OWN PROPERTY IN RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.

SO WE WERE SHOCKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE TURNED INTO A STORAGE UNIT FOR RVS AND BOATS.

AND BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE MR. FROST TO BUILD HIS OWN HOUSE OR A PROPERTY, A HOUSE THERE.

HE WOULD BE VERY WELCOME.

HE'S WELL RESPECTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THIS IS JUST TOO FAR.

UM, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT INDICATION OF WHAT HE'S PROPOSING OTHER THAN WHAT

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SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, AND IT REALLY IS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A CONSIDERATION.

THE STREET IS VERY, VERY NARROW ON RHODE ISLAND.

IN FACT, IF THAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT HAD BEEN COMPLETED, THE ROAD IS TOO NARROW FOR TODAY'S, UM, CODE OR PLANNING.

UM, AS IT IS, IT'S BARELY ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, FOR TWO SUVS TO PASS.

AND IF YOU ALSO CHECK THE AREA, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CULVERT ON EACH SIDE.

SO VEHICLES COMING IN AS WAS MENTIONED BY MR. SQUIRES, ARE GOING TO HAVE REAL DIFFICULTY IN GETTING IN AND TURNING, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LONG TRAILERS WITH BOATS.

UM, THERE'S GOING TO ALSO BE CONCERN ABOUT CONGESTION BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY BUSY STREET MEMORIAL.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN RV THAT'S COMING IN AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INTO THE, UM, RHODE ISLAND ENTRANCE AND THEY STOP, THEN EVERYTHING BEHIND STOPS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE QUITE DANGEROUS.

UM, THE CONCERN ALSO THAT WE HAVE, UM, IS ORIGINALLY, UM, MR. FROST HAD SUGGESTED THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN FAVOR AND THE LADY THAT WAS MENTIONED, MRS. BARTON IS DEFINITELY NOT, UM, SHE'S VERY MUCH OPPOSED.

THE PROPERTY THAT WAS EXACTLY WEST OF THAT PROPOSED SITE WAS A LOVELY LADY CALLED JUDY HAVENS.

SHE UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY AND WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE COUNCIL THAT WERE PLANNED AND WERE DELAYED OR, OR CANCELED IN THE END.

SHE WAS ACTUALLY UNDERGOING CANCER TREATMENT AND SHE HAD A DAUGHTER COME IN FROM OUTTA STATE SO THAT SHE COULD ATTEND EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS COMPROMISED BECAUSE SHE WAS GETTING RADIOTHERAPY AT THE TIME.

SHE WAS SO OPPOSED TO IT.

SHE WAS GOING TO TO COME AND SPEAK PERSONALLY, UNFORTUNATELY, AS THEY SAY SHE DIED.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT IT, YOU'LL SEE THEIR NAME IS GASTON AND THEY'RE A FAMILY.

THEY HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.

THEY'VE ALSO WRITTEN A LETTER OF OPPOSITION.

UM, IF YOU COULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THAT CHILDREN ARE PLAYING IN THAT AREA AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A RESIDENTIAL AREA TO HAVE VEHICLES COMING IN THAT OUR RVS OR BOATS ON THE BACK OF TRAILERS, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MANEUVERING QUITE A LOT.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S A DANGEROUS, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE, THE BEST IDEA.

UM, THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP.

UM, AND I WAS, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS A SHAME THAT MR. FROST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING A CONTINGENCY TO GETTING PLANNING APPROVAL TO CHANGE IT TO COMMERCIAL.

SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE ARE KIND OF, WHY DOESN'T HE JUST BUILD A HOUSE IF HE'S MADE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THAT INVESTMENT.

AND THERE ARE THOSE COMMERCIAL LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, OF, OF HIS BUSINESS THAT ARE VACANT AND AVAILABLE FOR PARTS.

UM, SO I JUST ALSO WANTED, AGAIN, TO REACH OUT TO YOU IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD WELCOME SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THEIR HOUSING EDITION.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A SAFETY ASPECT, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO CHILDREN THAT ARE PLAYING IN THAT AREA WITH COMMERCIAL VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT.

ANOTHER LAST THING, IF THE GRAVEL IS MAINTAINED, YOU CAN HAVE THESE VEHICLES COMING IN ALL TIMES DAY AND NIGHT.

PEOPLE ARE SETTING OFF IN THEIR RV.

THE CRUNCHING OF THE GRAVEL WITH THE VEHICLES WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF VERY INCONVENIENT FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MS. REED, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR, AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? YES, MA'AM.

I COULDN'T HEAR A COUPLE OF VERY WELL, SO I MAY BE REPEATING.

I HOPE I'M NOT.

MY NAME IS RHONDA KNIGHT.

I LIVE ON RHODE ISLAND AVENUE AT 43 18 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.

SO IT'S NORTH OF THE, UM, LOT THAT'S PROPOSED.

AND WHAT I DID DO, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, I WAS AT THE MEETING A YEAR AGO TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I, I MAY BE REPEATING A FEW THINGS, BUT WE SEARCHED FOR A NICE RESIDENTIAL LOT IN EDMOND.

WE CAME FROM TULSA AND UM, MY FAMILY'S HERE, SO THIS IS HOME FOR NOW FOR GOOD.

AND WE SEARCHED FOR A NICE ONE PLUS ACRE LOT WE HOPED.

AND WE BOUGHT OUR LOT ABOUT SEVEN LOTS NORTH OF THE ONE THAT'S IN QUESTION RIGHT NOW, I THINK.

AND WHAT APPEALED TO US WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE KNEW THE FRONT PART OF IT'S OLDER, IT'S A U-SHAPED NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU GO IN RHODE ISLAND AND YOU IS AROUND TO JORDAN AND IT GOES OUT TO MEMORIAL, BOTH OF THEM.

AND

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UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY BUSY.

BUT WHAT APPEALED TO US, WHAT IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL LOT.

THERE WAS NO, UM, NO BUSINESSES IN THE AREA UNTIL MR. FROST, UH, CHANGED THE ONE FACING MEMORIAL, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

MEMORIAL IS A REALLY BUSY COMMERCIAL AREA NOW, SO IF YOU'RE FACING MEMORIAL, CHANGING IT TO COMMERCIAL MAKES SENSE.

BUT THIS LOT IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, OUR ROAD IS ONLY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, I THINK I MEASURED IT YESTERDAY.

IT'S ONLY 18 FEET WIDE AT THE WHITEST.

THERE ARE NO CURBS TO CONTAIN.

UM, AND I KNOW NEW EDMUND NEIGHBORHOODS.

I WENT INTO, UH, WOODLAND PARK.

I HEARD IT MENTIONED EARLIER, NEW NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE ROADS ARE 26 FEET WIDE.

AND SO I TOOK THE LIBERTY YESTERDAY AND, UH, DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY TO TAKE PICTURES OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN TRAFFIC.

IF I CAN, UM, DIVIDE THIS OUT.

I TOOK PICTURES TO SHOW HOW WHEN, UM, TRASH TRUCKS ARE COMING DOWN THE STREET, AND UH, TRAFFIC IS COMING DOWN THE STREET, YOU EITHER HAVE TO STOP AND WAIT FOR THAT ONE TO GO BEYOND YOU OR PULL INTO A DRIVEWAY SORT OF.

UM, I'VE GOT PICTURES OF WHAT A BUS LOOKS LIKE COMING DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT THE TRASH TRUCKS LOOK LIKE COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

WHAT, UM, A A TRUCK PULLING AN RV CAMPER SUNDAY ON MY WALK WITH MY HUSBAND.

ONE WAS COMING DOWN AND IT WAS PERFECT TIMING AND IT TAKES US UP MORE THAN HALF THE ROAD.

IT'S JUST NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE LARGE VEHICLES.

I'VE GOT A PICTURE THERE OF MY MAILBOX.

I'VE PROBABLY REPLACED MY MAILBOX FOUR TIMES IN EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE WHEN TRAFFIC IS TRYING TO GO ACROSS EACH OTHER, SOMEBODY HITS MY MAILBOX AND KNOCKS IT OUT.

AND I KNOW THE AVERAGE, I, I LOOK THINGS UP.

THE AVERAGE WIDTH OF AN RV IS EIGHT TO EIGHT AND A HALF FEET.

THE AVERAGE LENGTH IS ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 45.

I KNOW THAT THEY SAY THAT THE RVS WILL ONLY COME OUT TO THE, TO THE SOUTH ON RHODE ISLAND, BUT EVEN THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE WITH, WITH SOMETHING THIS BIG, WE'RE GONNA PILE UP AT THE STOP SIGN AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF MEMORIAL.

LIKE WE CAN'T GET OUT OF IT.

NOW, A LOT OF TIMES, SOMETIMES I WILL GO AROUND TO THE OTHER LIGHT OF JORDAN ON THE STREET OF JORDAN.

THERE'S A STOPLIGHT.

SOMETIMES WHEN THE, THE TRAFFIC IS REALLY BUSY IN THE MORNING OR AT FIVE O'CLOCK, I WILL TURN AROUND AND GO ON THE OTHER ROAD TO GET OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A STOPLIGHT THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A STOPLIGHT AT THE T INTERSECTION OF MEMORIAL AND RHODE ISLAND.

UM, MOST PONTOON BOATS ARE EIGHT TO 10 FEET WIDE, SUMMER AS MUCH AS 12 TO 14 FEET WIDE.

SO I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE A BOAT AND RV STORAGE UNIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I KNOW THE EDMUND CITY PLANNER WEBSITE, IT STATES THAT ONE OBJECTIVE OF THE CITY PLANNER IS TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF EDMUND NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GONNA BE MAINTAINED IF WE ALLOW A BOAT AND RV STORAGE FACILITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT C? NONE.

WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS.

UM, AS THE COMMISSION WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A RESPONSE TO.

IF NOT, UM, WE WOULD SUBMIT IT AND REQUEST APPROVAL.

DID ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'D BE VERY PRUDENT TO GO OVER THE EXACT PLAN.

TO ME, WHAT I HEARD WAS TWO TOTAL BUILDINGS, ONE LONG BUILDING, 35 FEET DEEP MM-HMM.

BY TWO 50 LONG.

THAT WILL NU THERE WILL BE, NONE OF IT WILL BE OPEN COURSE.

ALL FOUR, IT'S ALL COMPLETELY CLOSED.

NOBODY WILL SEE ANYTHING.

THAT'S THE BUILDING ON THE LOT.

THE OTHER BUILDING PROPOSES CURRENTLY ON YOUR LOT, BUT IT'S ON THE ENTRANCE.

AND, AND THAT WILL BE A STORAGE FACILITY, I'M ASSUMING FOR YOU? NOT, NO, THAT'S, NO, IT'S NOT A STORAGE FACILITY.

IT'S JUST A WAREHOUSE JUST TO UH, CONTINUE MY WORK THAT I'M DOING NOW.

SO IT'S NOT A STORAGE FACILITY AT ALL.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

A 17 INDOOR STORAGE SLOTS THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY CLOSED OFF.

THE, UH, BOAT AND RV STORAGE FACILITY AND RIGHT BACK OUT.

UM, ANY CONSIDERATION TO A TALLER FENCE? THAT'S MY COMMENT.

I THINK THAT GOING INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE CAN DO IT.

I THINK EIGHT FOOT SHOULD BE A MINIMUM.

JUST AS MY COMMENT, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

AND ALSO AS FAR AS TALK ABOUT THE STREET, UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE A COMMENT THAT I'VE HEARD.

WELL, WE UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE LAST, UH, MEETING.

IF I CAN REITERATE, WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO MY FACILITY, THEY WILL EITHER COME IN OFF MEMORIAL OR THE FIRST ENTRANCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND STAY ON THE DRIVEWAY, STAY ON MY PROPERTY INTO

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SO THIS WAS PRESENTED FIVE YEARS AGO SAYING THAT I'M GONNA BE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, DRIVING FAST, WHATEVER.

NO ONE THAT COMES INTO MY PLACE OF BUSINESS GOES DOWN RHODE ISLAND.

THERE'S NO REASON TO GO DOWN RHODE ISLAND.

THEY WILL COME INTO MY PROPERTY AND LEAVE EXACTLY THE WAY THEY CAME IN, WHICH WOULD BE ON MEMORIAL OR THEIR ONE ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE.

UH, THE FIRST ENTRANCE, UH, ON RHODE ISLAND, WHICH IS THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, BY THE, ABOUT CLOSE TO MEMORIAL.

SO THE IMPACT OF GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NONEXISTENT.

SO BY THE WIDTH OF THE STREET THAT THEY KEEP POINTING OUT, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WIDTH OF THE STREET.

ALL I KNOW IS COMING IN AND OUT OF RHODE ISLAND, I WILL NOT IMPACT AT ALL GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IF THE ISSUE OF NOT, OF SEEING THE BOAT AND RV, IT'S ONLY 35 FEET DEEP.

SO THE VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE VERY BIG AT ALL 35 FEET.

UH, IT'S NOT THAT LONG OF A VEHICLE.

I MEAN, I DO IT EVERY DAY.

I HAVE A BOAT AND I ALSO SERVICE RV SOMETIME IN MY SHOP.

AND THEY COME IN EASILY COME RIGHT BACK OUT, GO RIGHT BACK OUTTA MEMORIAL.

NOBODY'S EVER GONE DOWN RHODE ISLAND.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY KEEP TELLING ME AND SAYING THAT I'M GOING TO IMP TRAFFIC.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IMPEDING FIVE A BECAUSE MY CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE A REASON TO GO DOWN RHODE ISLAND.

SO JUST, I JUST LIKE TO CALM THEIR FEARS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE SAYING THE SAME THING, IT HASN'T COME TO FRUITION.

I MEAN, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A ISSUE.

UH, I DON'T IMPACT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY I SHOULDN'T SAY THEY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE TO SAY MY NEIGHBORHOOD TOO.

CAUSE MY BUSINESS IS THERE.

SO I TAKE AS MUCH PRIDE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS THEY DO.

MY BEAUTIFICATION OF THE ON THAT CORNER SHOULD SHOW THAT I TAKE PRIDE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KEEP A GRASS MODE, I KEEP MY LANDSCAPE UP.

THE PAR FLOWERS PLANTED.

THAT ALL WILL SHOW YOU THAT I HAVE AS MUCH PRIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AS THEY DO.

SO THIS NEW BUILDING I'M PUTTING UP WILL ALSO DEMONSTRATE, UH, THE SAME, UH, CARE THAT I HAD FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST BUILT THIS PROPERTY.

SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.

IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION, AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION TO PAVE ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE NEW LOT SO THAT, UH, NOBODY HAS TO LOOK AT GRAVEL? YES, I CAN DO THAT ALSO.

I CAN PAVE IT, ASPHALT IT.

UH, I WILL DEFINITELY PUT THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S NOT OFF THE TABLE.

IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO GIVE YOU A DEFINITE ANSWER ON THAT, I CAN DO THAT.

I CAN SAY YES, I CAN PAVE IT UP TO THE, UP TO THAT PARKING LOT.

TO CLARIFY, SO YOU SAID YOU WOULD PAVE UP TO THE PARKING LOT, BUT NOT UP TO THE, UP TO THE BUILDING.

UH, DO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BELIEVE HE'S ANSWERED ALL QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU.

SO WE NEED TO, AND MA'AM, UH, IF YOUR QUESTION IS VERY SHORT AND VERY QUICK, IT IS.

I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE ENTRANCE IN MEMORIAL.

UM, 35 FOOT RVS ON THAT LOT.

THE ONLY ENTRANCE IN EXIT IS ON RHODE ISLAND.

THERE IS NO EXIT STRAIGHT INTO MEMORIAL.

THE ONLY ENTRANCE IN EXIT IS RHODE ISLAND.

AND IS IT COMING AND GOING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT THE BEAUTIFICATION A SIX FOOT FENCE OR FENCE.

NEITHER ONE IS GONNA COVER RIGHT.

LOW THAN 15.

AND I, I THINK WE UNDERSTOOD THAT, MA'AM.

SO THANK WHERE'S THE INCOMES TO MEMORIAL THAT I KEEP HEARING ABOUT? OKAY.

YOU KNOW, THE ENTRANCE RIGHT FROM MY DRIVEWAY.

I MEAN THE MORE IF YOU'LL, YOU'LL ADDRESS, IF YOU'LL PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION.

AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT ISSUE HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED AND I UNDERSTAND.

SURE THAT THAT IS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S THE, THE BUILDING IS WILL HAVE NO, IT'S NOT AN OPEN AIR, IT'S, IT'S COMPLETE FULL METAL BUILDING, SOLID SURFACE.

BUT I'VE HEARD HIM SAY ABOUT THE ENTRANCE.

MA'AM, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR OPINION AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

CHRIS, HERE, YOU CAN POINT TO THE POINTER UP HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE ENTRANCE.

THERE'S RIGHT THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S IT.

UM, THERE'S NO TURNAROUND.

AND I, WELL, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT, MA'AM.

SO CAN WE MAKE A ADJUSTMENT OR CHANGE FOR THE, A FOOT FENCE AND A SOLID SURFACE TO THE NEW LOT? CAN THAT, YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK THE SAME THING.

RANDY, CAN WE ADD THAT IN THE P U D TO MAKE

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CUZ IT'S UNKNOWN IF IT'S BY TOP OR CONCRETE.

AND THEN MAIN FOOT SITE PROOF FENCE.

AND THEN THE LANGUAGE IN THERE REGARDING THE OUTDOOR PARKING WOULD NEED TO BE ELIMINATED AS WELL, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN PARAGRAPH FOUR ON THE PARKING REGULATIONS.

THERE IS NO PARKING.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S ADJUSTED IN THE PD.

BRINGS US TO CASE NUMBER H, CASE NUMBER PA 2212 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

MAKE A MOTION WITH THOSE CHANGES.

I WOULD MAKE A SECOND AS WELL TO SHOW IT WENT.

IT'S A STORY OF MY LIFE.

NOT ROLL CALL.

STEVE GOT HIS PASSWORD.

UH, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ONE.

IT WILL BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER THE 28TH.

[H. Case #PA22-00012 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the Edmond Plan 2018 from Rural Neighborhood to Suburban Commercial located on the southwest corner of Covell Road and Sooner Road. (Creighton Companies, LLC)]

AMENDMENT TO THE EDMUND.

PLAN 2018 FROM RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COVILLE ROAD IN SUN ROAD.

CREIGHTON COMPANIES LLC IS THE APPLICANT, MR. ANTS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO 15 ACRES ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COVELL AND SOONER.

UH, TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SINCE IT'S ADOPTION, UH, THE 15 ACRES IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND ZONED AS A SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH WAS DONE IN 1964.

UH, WHEN THE PLAN WAS UPDATED IN 2018, THE SITE WAS THOUGHT TO LACK ACCESS TO UTILITIES.

SINCE THAT SEVERAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, UH, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SEWER AND TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ON THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST OF THE SITE.

UH, SEWER AND WATER ARE AVAILABLE TO THE SITE AT THIS TIME.

IN ADDITION TO THE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, THE CITY HAS WIDENED THE ROADS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SITE AND IMPROVED THE INTERSECTION OF COVALENT SOONER.

AND THE INTERSECTION OF COVILLE AND I 35, WHICH IS A HALF MILE TO THE EAST HERE, UH, THE AREA, WHICH IS THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE CITY, IS ENVISIONED BY THE PLAN AS A COMMERCIAL NODE WITH A VARIETY OF USES, UH, THE AREA TO THE NORTHEAST ZONED AS A P U D TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY USES AND HAS ALREADY SEEN DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER, THE HOTEL, THE MOVIE THEATER, UH, WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PLANNING STAGES.

UH, DIRECTLY NORTH IS THE SITE FOR THE, UH, RECENTLY APPROVED CREST GROCERY STORE AND OUT PARCELS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

UH, ALSO SOME OFFICE USERS, UH, DIRECTLY EAST IS UNDEVELOPED ADJACENT TO THE SITE, BUT CLOSER TO I 35 IS DEVELOPED WITH RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL SPACE.

UH, THE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION SEEMS MISAPPLIED AT THIS POINT ON THE SITE DUE TO THE AREA WIDE IMPROVEMENTS, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND AVAILABILITY OF UTILITIES AND THE CURRENT ZONING WHICH ISN'T RECOMMENDED AS APPROPRIATE IN RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS DESCRIBED IN THE PLAN AS AREAS THAT MAY INCLUDE OFFICES, SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, AND SERVICES THAT MAY CONTAIN A LARGE SINGLE ACTIVITY GENERATOR, SUCH AS A BIG BOX RETAILER OR A SIGNIFICANT ANCHOR.

SMALLER AND SCALE THAN A DESTINATION RETAIL CATEGORY.

UH, DESTINATION RETAIL THINK SECOND.

AND BRYANT, UH, THIS CATEGORY WOULD BE A TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSE URBAN CENTER AND MIXED USE CAMPUS TO THE NORTH AND EAST, UH, TO THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, AND THE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH.

AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ARE OFTEN ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION.

DO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES, BRIEFLY.

ONCE AGAIN, DAVID BOX FIVE TWENTY TWO CALL COURT DRIVE.

UM, THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WILL BE ONE OF MANY APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE A P UD ON FILE THAT'LL COME TO YOU, UH, I BELIEVE AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

AND WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING, UH, REGARDING THE P UD.

UH, MUCH OF WHAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO HERE AND WHAT I READ IN THE LETTER SUBMITTED BY, UH, MR. UH, WORK REALLY ARE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO BE DEALT WITH AT THE P UD STAGE.

UH, MY CLIENT STANDS READY TO NEGOTIATE A P U D, UH, TO DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE IMPORTANT FROM A BUFFERING STANDPOINT.

BUT THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS REGARDING THE CONFERENCE OF

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PLAN.

UM, THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN IMPROVING THIS AREA WITH PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

STREETS, SEWER, WATER COBEL IS A MAJOR INTERCEPTOR CONNECTING I 35 THROUGH THE CITY OF EDMOND.

UH, COBELL THROUGH HERE HAS, HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC MONEY BEING SPENT ON IT, IN OUR OPINION, TO PROMOTE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

UH, AS YOU READ IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHEN STAFF IS WALKING THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DESIGNATION THAT WE SEEK, WHAT STAFF TELLS YOU IS THAT THE DESIGNATION IS A GOOD TRANSITION FROM THE SITE FOR THE MORE INTENSE DESIGNATIONS LOCATED TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST AND THE RESIDENTIAL LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.

AND SO WHAT WE SELECTED WAS A DESIGNATION THAT WE THOUGHT NOT ONLY COMPATIBLE FOR WHAT WE WANT, BUT PROVIDED FOR THE APPROPRIATE STEP DOWN AND INTENSITY FROM WHAT EXISTS AROUNDS US TO THE RESIDENTIALS THAT EXIST TO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST.

IN MR WORK'S LETTER, HE DESCRIBES THE INCOMPATIBILITY WITH OUR REQUEST BASED UPON POLICY GOALS SET FORTH IN THE ED PLAN.

SO I WANT TO REFERENCE THOSE REAL QUICK.

THIS SPECIFIC POLICY GOAL, MR. WORK REFERENCES TO SHOW HIS BELIEF THAT OUR, UH, APPLICATION IS INCOMPATIBLE ARE G L U OH SIX, WHICH SAYS EDMUND WILL CLEARLY DEFINE THOSE CHARACTERISTICS ASSOCIATED WITH A RURAL DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK EVERYBODY CAN, UH, AGREE THAT THE CORNER OF COVE AND SOONER IS NOT A RURAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THAT GOAL TO IT SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE WHAT THE CITY OF EDMUND DESIRES FOR THIS CORNER.

THE NEXT G L U OH TWO EDMUND WILL HAVE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES AND DENSITIES THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH NEARBY STRUCTURES AND CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF EDMOND SPENT THE MONEY THEY SPENT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS AREA TO ENCOURAGE ANOTHER RURAL STYLE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT COVE AND CENTER.

AND FINALLY, G L U OH SEVEN EDMOND WILL ENHANCE ITS NATURAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING RE FOREST, URBAN TREE CANOPY, PRIME FARMLAND IN RIPARIAN AREAS.

I I STRUGGLED TO TO SEE COVE AND SOONER AS PRIME FARMLAND.

AND OF COURSE, THROUGH THE P E D PROCESS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENSURE ALL ORDINANCES AS IT RELATES TO PRE PRESERVATION OR SETBACKS OR SENSITIVE BORDERS WILL BE MET.

THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IS EXACTLY WHY THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS PUT FORTH THE RESOURCES TO IMPROVE COVE, IMPROVE SOONER, AND BRING WATER AND SEWER.

AS STAFF SAID, THE REASON THAT THIS WAS DESIGNATED AT THE TIME IN THE MANNER IT IS NOW IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A BELIEF THAT YOU COULDN'T GET WATER AND SEWER TO IT.

WELL, OF COURSE WE CAN GET WATER AND SEWER TO IT.

AND SO ALLOWING THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BE DEVELOPED IN ITS HEIS AND BEST USE IS A BENEFIT TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE TAXPAYERS THAT HAVE SPENT MONEY TO IMPROVE THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AND AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T STOP.

THIS IS JUST THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN.

UH, WE DID HAVE ONE MEETING, UH, AS THE, UH, VICE CHAIR REFERENCE.

IT DID NOT GO WELL.

FRANKLY, THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE, UH, BASED UPON SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR, THE PEOPLE.

I AM HAPPY THAT MR. WORK IS INVOLVED CUZ IT GIVES ME A POINT OF CONTACT AND A REASONABLE PERSON TO SET OUT TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE SOME OF THESE THINGS WITHIN THE PUT.

UH, OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN FIND A WAY THROUGH THE P U D TO NEGOTIATE THAT, BUT HERE WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DESIGNATION, AS STAFF HAS INDICATED, IS A REASONABLE TRANSITION FROM WHAT EXISTS AROUND US TO WHAT EXISTS TO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST.

WE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SCENE NONE, MR. WORK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND START? AND PERHAPS YOU CAN COVER ENOUGH THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO HEAR THE SAME THING FROM A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.

THE BOUNDARY OF THE I 35 CORRIDOR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, MY NAME IS KELLY WORK AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE, UH, AUGUSTA FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY OFFICE ADDRESS IS 1 0 5 NORTH HUDSON, SUITE 3 0 4 IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND, UH, THERE ARE, UM, THE AUGUSTA FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD, AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, IS THE 30 ACRE TRACT THAT, UH, BORDERS ON THE SOUTH AND ON THE WEST, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO IT, UH, HAS ITS ENTRANCE OFF OF COVA AND THEN IT COMES DOWN TO, UH, CUL-DE-SAC THERE ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE.

UH, AND, UH, AS I MENTIONED, A UH, IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON TWO SIDES.

THERE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, OF THE RESIDENTS FROM AUGUSTA FARMS THAT ARE PRESENT.

AND I'LL ASK THEM JUST TO, WITH A SHOW OF HANDS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, WE, UM, OPPOSE THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT TO SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AND SUGGEST THAT A LESS INTENSE CATEGORY SUCH AS THE S TWO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION.

AUGUSTA FARMS WAS PLANTED IN 1995.

IT CONSISTS OF

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19 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

IT HA IT VERY MUCH HAS A RURAL FEEL TO IT.

UH, TODAY WITH MUCH OF THE NATIVE FOREST, FOREST THAT IS PRESERVED, IT'S SERVED BY, UH, PRIVATE, UH, WATER WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THERE ARE NO PUBLIC WATERLINES AND FIRE HYDRANTS OR PUBLIC SANITARY SEWERS TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF AUGUSTA FARMS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SHILOH VALLEY.

AND UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, SHILOH VALLEY IS ALSO WITHIN THE, UH, RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD CATEGORY UNDER THE PLAN.

IT IS, UM, ALSO A RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE PLAN, THE EDMUND PLAN 2018, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WAS ADOPTED IN MARCH OF 2019.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP, ALL OF THIS GREEN AREA HERE, SOUTH AND WEST OF, UH, SOUTH OF COVELL AND WEST OF SOONER, WAS DESIGNATED UNDER THE TERMS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT DESIGNATION WAS ADOPTED LESS THAN FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO JUST SINCE MARCH OF 2019, ONE OF THE STATED GOALS OF THE EDMUND PLAN 2018 WAS TO, UH, REDUCE THE NEED TO FREQUENTLY AMEND THE PLAN MAP.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT WAS ADDRESSED WHEN EDMUND PLAN 2018 WAS CRAFTED AND ADOPTED.

UH, STILL, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IF YOU ARE MAKING AN APPLICATION TO REZONE PROPERTY IN EDMOND THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLAN, THEN IT DOES REQUIRE THAT THERE BE AN APPLICATION TO, UH, AMEND THE PLAN.

AND THE PLAN ITSELF SAYS IT STATES THAT A DECISION TO APPROVE OR DENY A PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO BE BASED ON THE PLAN'S, GOALS AND POLICIES.

AND, UM, IN OUR VIEW, THESE SPECIFIC GOALS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE PLAN WOULD SUPPORT A PLAN CATEGORY THAT IS LESS INTENSE THAN THE SUB SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CATEGORY THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.

AND THOSE ARE G L U SIX, WHICH STATES EDMUND WILL CLEARLY DEFINE THOSE CHARACTERISTICS ASSOCIATED WITH A RURAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND LIFESTYLE AND WILL TAKE ACTIONS TO PROTECT THEM FROM DEGRADATION G L U TWO, WHICH IS ANOTHER OF THE PLAN'S, GOALS STATES EDMUND WILL HAVE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES AND DENSITIES THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COM COMMUNITY, ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH NEARBY STRUCTURES AND CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THEN G U SEVEN STATES, EDMUND WILL ENHANCE ITS NATURAL RESOURCES INCLUDING REMNANT FOREST, URBAN TREE CANOPY, PRIME FARMLAND, AND RIPARIAN AREAS.

ONE THING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT IS, UH, THAT YOU NOTE AS YOU, UM, DRIVE THROUGH EITHER AUGUSTA FARMS OR SHILOH VALLEY, IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESERVATION OF THE, UH, NATIVE FOREST.

AND THAT IS OF COURSE ONE OF THE GOALS THAT THE, UM, EDMUND PLAN HAS.

UM, AS, AS, UM, AS ITS OBJECTIVE, AS MR. UH, BOX MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH, UM, E ONE RETAIL COMMERCIAL AS A BASE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WILL COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT A HEARING.

OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER.

SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION ON A PROPOSED PLANNED AMENDMENT WILL BEAR ON THAT REZONING HEARING WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

IN OUR VIEW, IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY PROTECT AND PRESERVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, A MORE APPROPRIATE STEP DOWN CATEGORY FROM THOSE TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH WOULD BE THE S TWO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AS EXISTS WEST OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

SO UP HERE IN THIS NORTHWEST CORNER THERE, THERE'S COVILLE AND SOONER YOU HAVE THE MIXED USE CAMPUS THERE WHERE CREST IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THAT YOU HAVE THE STEP DOWN TO THE SUBURBAN S TWO NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO HERE ON THE EAST SIDE, OF COURSE, SOONER ROAD IS

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SO THESE AREAS ARE ALSO URBAN CENTER THERE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF COVILLE AND THEN FURTHER TO THE SOUTH MIXED USE CAMPUS.

SO THOSE ARE CLEARLY CONTEMPLATED TO BE HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENTS AS PART OF THE I FIVE CORRIDOR UNDER THE PLAN.

BUT THE DESIGNATION WAS KEPT IN 2018 WHEN THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED OF THESE AREAS WHERE THESE RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS EXIST.

NOW, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND RETAINING THE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD CLASSIFICATION OR CATEGORY FOR THE 15 ACRES AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT, UH, IT IS MORE APPROPRIATELY IN THE CATEGORY OF THE SUBURBAN S TWO NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT THE, UM, THE, UH, SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CATEGORY THAT IS BEING REQUESTED.

UM, THE SUBURBAN S TWO NEIGHBORHOOD CLASSIFICATION DOES CONTEMPLATE COMMERCIAL USES, BUT THEY ARE CONTEMPLATED TO BE ON A SMALLER SCALE WITH A LOWER IMPACT AND APPROPRIATE.

WE'RE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE RURAL IN CHARACTER.

UM, YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED, I BELIEVE, UH, THE PROTEST PETITION THAT, UH, HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

AND JUST AS I CAME IN THIS EVENING, THE WHAT YOU I BELIEVE HAVE RECEIVED TODAY WAS A PROTEST PETITION THAT HAD 27 SIGNATURES.

AND SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 31, SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, OR A TOTAL OF 58 SIGNATURES.

WE'LL GET THIS SUBMITTED TO STAFF TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED ALREADY.

BUT THOSE, UH, PROTESTS ARE ALSO TO THE, UM, TO THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE PLAN CATEGORY TO THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND SUGGEST THAT THE APPROPRIATE CLASS CLASSIFICATION OR CATEGORY SHOULD BE THE, UH, THE S TWO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU, UM, YOU, UM, DENY THE REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT TO SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AND INSTEAD APPLY THE SUBURBAN S TWO NEIGHBORHOOD CATEGORY, WHICH WOULD PUT THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL IN A BETTER POSITION TO PROTECT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS GOING FORWARD.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WORK AT THIS POINT IN TIME? OH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE SIGNATURES.

WHAT WERE THE SIGNATURES FOR? WHAT DID THEY SAY THAT NO 7-ELEVEN WOULD GO THERE, OR IT IS, IT IS, UH, THEY ARE SUGGESTING THAT THE AMENDMENT TO THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CATEGORY IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND THAT THE APPROPRIATE, MORE APPROPRIATE CLASSIFICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO THE SUBURBAN S TWO.

THEY'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD CATEGORY BE RETAINED.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT REALISTIC, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBURBAN S TWO NEIGHBORHOOD.

MR. WORK ON THE 58 SIGNATURES, HOW MANY LOTS DOES THAT REPRESENT? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

IT'S, UH, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OF THEM THAT ARE PROBABLY, UH, HUSBANDS LOT SPOUSES.

TO PROTECT THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER THAT, UH, RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING.

SO, OR SOMEONE IN THE HOUSE OVER THE, GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE IT.

UH, WOULD ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? YES, SIR.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, I, I'LL BE BRIEF, BUT, UM, AS A RESIDENT OF, CAN YOU GET YOUR NAME? UH, JOSHUA SEEK, UH, AS A RESIDENT OF AUGUSTA FARMS, WE ENJOY THE ADVANTAGES OF THE REAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS, UM, KELLY POINTED OUT THE SETTINGS INCLUDE OUR, SORRY, I'LL JUST READ MY NOTES.

UM, OF THE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING, INCLUDING THE BENEFITS OF THE OUTLINED, UH, IN 4.3 0.5 RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING THE NATIVE TREES, UNDERSERVED AREAS IN THE HOUSES, UH, ULTIMATELY IN THE TRANQUIL SETTING, WHICH IS DESCRIBED, UH, THERE IN THE, UM, AS REFERENCED IN THE 2018 PLAN, UH, IN THE SITE DESIGN LAYOUT, LOTS SHOULD ACHIEVE THE SAME RESULTS, ENSURING THE AREA CONTINUES TO FEEL AND FUNCTION LIKE A RULE SETTING.

UH, IT'S ONLY LOGICAL TO THINK THAT IF A PARTIAL IS EXTRACTED FROM THE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THAT, UM, FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEN, UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE A MINOR CHANGE OR SOMETHING

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AND SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY IS THAT WE, WE HAVE A VERY MINOR CHANGE.

WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE COMMERCIAL, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT AN S TWO SETTING PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, SEVERAL HOUSES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY.

CAN I STEAL YOUR POINTER FOR A SECOND? YES.

SORRY, I MOVE TO THIS.

I DIDN'T KNOW TO BRING POINTER .

UM, SO THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE, AND THEN ALSO THIS HOUSE ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THAT, UM, PROPERTY LINE.

AND SO BEING ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR RULED NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND SO HAVING THAT S TWO DESIGNATION IN OUR MIND HELPS US TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM A, A LARGER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS HERE, UM, YOU HAVE GOLF COURSES, YOU HAVE OFFICE BUILDINGS TO PROTECT THEM.

UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE NEED THAT PROTECTION AS WELL.

AND SO WE SEE THIS AS AN ENTRANCE INTO EDMUND.

WE SEE THIS AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EDMUND LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

AND PART OF THAT IS PROTECTING, UM, THIS AREA ALONG COVELL WHERE WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND, AND THE REST OF BOTH OF THESE SECTIONS, UH, ALL THE WAY TO WHATEVER THE NEXT STREET IS.

UH, COLTRAIN IS ALL RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO PROTECTING THAT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A LESS DENSE COMMERCIAL, UH, TYPE OPPORTUNITY SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE FROM BOTH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO TO THE, UM, REST OF THAT, UM, MILE THERE ALONG COBEL.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING DIFFERENT? WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE STATEMENTS MADE SPECIFICALLY BY MR. WORK IN REGARD TO WHY, UH, HIS REQUEST IS INAPPROPRIATE? SURE.

SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE FILED OUR P UD APPLICATION, WE WORKED WITH STAFF AT GREAT LINK TO, TO TRY TO COME UP WITH, UH, NOT JUST THE P UD THAT MADE SENSE FOR THE SITE, BUT ALSO THE APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION UNDER YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND SO WE PICKED THIS BECAUSE IT WAS VIEWED BY OURSELVES AND YOUR STAFF AS THE MOST APPROPRIATE.

UH, I'LL, I'LL POINT YOU BACK TO YOUR, YOUR STAFF REPORT.

I MEAN, IT, IT CONTEMPLATES THIS TYPE OF USE AND STAFF TELLS US THAT THE REQUEST FOR THE SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR A TRANSITION OF THE SITE FROM THE MORE INTENSE DESIGNATIONS LOCATED TO NORTH AND THE EAST.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, THE S TWO IS IT IS INTENDED TO BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN TO THE NORTH OF OUR SITE.

AND WHAT IT SAYS IS THIS CATEGORY EXISTS BEHIND LARGE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS.

OKAY? SO TO THE NORTH SITE IT EXISTS BECAUSE IT IS BEHIND LARGE COMMERCIAL SITES, IT'S BEHIND THE CREST.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT LARGE COMMERCIAL SITE HERE, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THE, UM, DESIGNATION, WE SEEK ACCOUNTS FOR THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

WE DIDN'T SEEK THE MIXED USE, WE DIDN'T SEEK THE URBAN CENTER.

WHAT WE SAW WAS THE TRANSITIONAL, UH, DESIGNATION THAT WOULD ALLOW WHEN REQUIRED AT THE ZONING PHASE, THAT TYPE OF LOW SCALE DEVELOPMENT, PERHAPS WHERE YOU ARE UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL.

AND WHAT WE THINK YOU'LL SEE IN OUR POD IS THAT WE HAVE DONE JUST THAT WE HAVE MET OR EXCEEDED YOUR, UH, SENSITIVE BORDER STANDARD.

WE ARE NOT IN THE I 35 CORRIDOR, UM, ARCHITECTURAL REQUIRED AREA, BUT WE'VE INCORPORATED THOSE ANYWAYS.

UM, SO WE THINK WE HAVE CREATED THE POD THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A SMOOTH TRANSITION FROM WHAT EXISTS AROUND US.

WE DON'T THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WILL WORK WITH THE SUBURBAN TWO NEIGHBORHOOD.

MR. BOX, I, I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UM, AT THE TIME YOU ALL HAD YOUR COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING, DID YOU ALL HAVE INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT YOUR HUD PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO REVIEW WITH HOMEOWNERS IF THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? AT THAT POINT IN TIME? WE, WE HAD ALREADY FILED THE PUD AND WE GAVE THEM COPIES OF THE PUD.

AND HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP AT THAT MEETING? THERE WERE THREE.

TWO WERE ASKED TO LEAVE.

FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT QUESTIONS, BUT A COUPLE COMMENTS.

UM, SO THE 2018 PLAN, I REMEMBER WHEN, WHEN THAT WAS DONE.

I MEAN, IT WAS LEFT, UM, AS RULED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WATER OR SEWER, WHICH SPECIFICALLY WHY IT WAS LEFT THAT WAY.

UM, TWO, THAT S TWO COULD ALLOW UP TO 60 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THIS SAME AMOUNT.

UM, NO SENSITIVE BORDERS, WHICH TO ME WOULD BE MORE INTRUSIVE THAN THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.

SO TO ME, THE SENSITIVE BORDER FOR, EVEN THOUGH THOUGH IT'S A HIGHER USE, THE S TWO IS MORE INTENSE

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SO I DON'T LIKE THE OTHER PROPOSAL TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THAT BRINGS THIS TO CASE NUMBER I, CASE Z Z 2215 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM GENERAL AGRICULTURAL TO P U D PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT 4 62 0 1 EAST SECOND STREET, BENTWOOD INVESTMENTS LLC IS THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DIRECTLY BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION IN REGARD TO THIS PROJECT? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION YOU NEED TO APPROVE? I'VE, I'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR COMMENTS AND WE'VE MOVED ON.

DO I HAVE A MOTION YOU MOVE TO APPROVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THAT PROJECT IS APPROVED BY VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO AND YOU ALL WILL HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT IT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 28TH OF NOVEMBER.

[I. Case #Z22-00015 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “G-A” General Agriculture to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for 6201 E 2nd Street. (Bentwood Investments LLC) ]

AGAIN, NOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TURNING EVERYTHING INSIDE, UH, WHICH WE THINK TO BE APPROPRIATE AND WE THINK WILL, WILL ALLOW FOR, UM, A SMOOTH TRANSITION FROM THIS USE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A P D TO ALLOW FOR A BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

SEEMS TO BE THE NIGHT FOR THAT, UH, ON 6.2 ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SECOND STREET OR HIGHWAY 66 JUST EAST OF COOK TRAIL.

UH, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED GA GENERAL AG AND IS IN THE LATE DISTRICT OVERLAY.

PUD HAS ONE TRACK AND IT SHOWS L FIVE RESTRICTED LAKE COMMERCIAL USES AND OFFICE USE, BUT PROHIBITS MARIJUANA RELATED USES TO BE ALLOWED THERE, UH, TO THE EAST AND SOUTH IS ZONED GA AND AND IS UNDEVELOPED TO THE NORTH IS L TWO LAKE RESIDENTIAL AND DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL AORS LOTS, UH, TO THE WEST IS UNDEVELOPED, BUT IT WAS REZONED IN 2017 AS A P U D TO ALLOW FOR BOAT AND RV STORAGE AND A CONVENIENCE STORE.

THE P U D COMMITS TO NO OVERHEAD DOORS FACING NORTH OR EAST TO BUFFER.

THE ADJACENT USES SECURITY FENCING OF ROT, IRON EPOXY, COATED CHAIN LINK, OR WOOD OR MASONRY SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AND USING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT TECHNIQUES APPROVED BY THE CITY OF EDMONDS TO MITIGATE WATER RUNOFF.

THE CITY IS UNDERGOING CURRENTLY A STUDY WHICH WE WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT TECHNIQUES, WHICH COULD BE USED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE DETAILS OF WHICH THAT DO NOT EXIST AT THIS TIME, UH, TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PD D UH, THE PD ALSO COMMITS MEETING THE L FIVE SETBACKS, UH, THE SENSITIVE BORDER ALONG THE NORTH BOUNDARY WITH A, AN EXCEPTION, UH, THAT THE SETBACK COULD BE REDUCED TO 20 FEET IF A SITE PROOF FENCE AND TREES PLANTED ON 25 FOOT CENTERS ARE PROVIDED.

UH, WHILE THE P U D ALLOWS L FIVE USES, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWS THE STORAGE BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS WITH TWO ACCESSES ONTO SECOND STREET.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT THERE AND THE SURROUNDING BUILDING.

SO FIVE BUILDINGS IN TOTAL.

UM, THE SITE IS, UH, DESIGNATED AS RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WATER QUALITY RESTORATION IN THE EDMOND PLAN.

BOTH SUPPORT VERY LIMITED AMOUNTS OF COMMERCIAL, UH, WHICH COULD SUPPORT THE LAKE OR SURROUNDING RURAL RESIDENTIAL ONLY.

UH, THE WATER QUALITY RESTORATION ENCOURAGES THE USE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT TECHNIQUES.

UH, STAFF SUPPORTS APPROVAL.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO CITY STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? C NONE.

WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES.

AGAIN, BRIEFLY, DATE OF BOX FIVE TWENTY TWO CALL FOR, UH, COULD STAFF TAKE OFF THE, UM, THE ZONING OVERLAY? SO MY, MY CLIENT ACTUALLY LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH, UM, AND IN LARGE PART BOUGHT THE SITE TO TRY TO HELP PROTECT, UH, HIM AND HIS NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUBJECT TRACK AS IT EXISTED WHEN THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN WAS A GLORIFIED JUNKYARD.

UM, IT'S SINCE BEEN CLEANED UP, BUT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE LAKE AND, UH, THE, THE PERCEIVED NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF USE, IT MADE SOME SENSE TO, TO CLEAN THE SITE UP AND APPLY FOR USE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

UM, WE ALSO HAD A COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETING ON THIS APPLICATION.

UH, IT WAS QUITE CIVIL AND WE, WE'D WALKED THROUGH KIND OF WHY WE'RE SEEKING THIS AND, AND WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

WE, WE HAVE MADE, I THINK, MULTIPLE CONCESSIONS THROUGH THE P D THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE NOW, UM, IS A REVISED SITE PLAN.

WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS TURN EVERYTHING INTERIOR.

UM, IS STEPH, I'M SORRY, COULD STEPH PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP? UM, SO THIS IS THE NEW SITE PLAN.

SO AGAIN, WE COMMITTED TO NO OVERHEAD DOORS ON THE NORTH AND THE EAST, WHICH IS WHERE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO WE'VE TURNED EVERYTHING INTERIOR.

UM, IN TALKING TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TODAY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, UH, LIGHTING ON THE EXTERIOR.

WE CAN REVISE THE PUT AND COMMIT THAT THERE WILL NO V THERE WILL BE NO LIGHTING ON THE BACK OF ANY BUILDING, UH, ALONG THE PERIMETER.

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WHEN WE INITIALLY FILED IT, WE FILED THE P UD AND REALLY MATCHED THE LANGUAGE IN THE PD THAT EXISTS TO OUR WEST, WHICH ALLOWS US TO TYPE SAME TYPE OF USE.

NOW WITH THAT SAID, WITH THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE P UD, WE'VE MADE OUR P UD MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THAT P UD TO THE WEST.

UH, WHICH IN HOPES, UH, WOULD ALLOW FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.

UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH ARE HERE.

AGAIN, MY, MY CLIENT ACTUALLY LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING A VEST VESTED INTEREST IN THE PROJECT, HE ALSO HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE HIS NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY.

UH, SO WE'VE ADDED THOSE CHANGES THAT HE'S MADE TO THE P U D.

UH, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE WOULD ASK FOR SAME.

MR. ROCKS, ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME BY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

UH, COULD YOU, UH, CLARIFY THE, UH, THE SCREENING OUT FRONT? HOW TALL ARE THOSE, UH, ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO, UM, THAT PLANT MATERIAL? THE, THE WHAT MATERIAL? THE PLANT MATERIAL, THE TREES, SHRUBS.

HOW HIGH IS THAT GONNA BE AT THE, I DON'T, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? YEAH.

IN THE FRONT.

SO WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE FROM, UH, THE HIGHWAY? YEAH, RIGHT THERE.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE MADE A DETERMINATION ON THAT.

I MEAN, THIS WILL BE A, UM, A SECURE SITE.

SO OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE IT GATED AND, AND HAVE ATTRACTIVE LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT FRONTAGE.

JUST HOW TALL IS THAT SCREENING GONNA BE? IS IT GONNA BE FOUR FOOT, IS IT GONNA BE BOXWOOD? I, I JUST THREE FEET? OR IS IT GONNA BE LIKE SIX FEET OR? YEAH, IT'LL PROBABLY BE A COMBINATION OF TREES AND BO AND SHRUBS.

SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR FEET AND, YOU KNOW, 12, 15 FEET IF IT'S A TREE OR YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN NOT SEE FROM THE STREET.

HOW MUCH IS HIDDEN FROM THE STREET? THAT'S, SO IT'S, THAT'S THE INDICATION.

IT'S, IT'S UP A LAYS OFF THE ROAD ANYWAY.

IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY DIFFICULT TO SEE QUITE A MINUTE IN THE ELEVATION IN THE PU DOES REQUIRE UNDER FACADE THAT ALL ARTERIAL STREET FRINGES, UH, SHALL BE MASON READING GLASS.

SO WE HAVE TAKEN THAT STEP IN THE POD TO, TO ENSURE THAT THAT PARTICULAR FRONTAGE IS, IS COVERED WITH THAT HEIGHTENED ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME SCENE? NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? YES SIR.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

UH, MY NAME'S CODY TOON.

I'M NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE NEW DESIGN A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE, UH, FENCE TO THE EAST AND SEE ABOUT GETTING IT TO BE A NON SEE THROUGH FENCE.

AND THAT'S MY MAIN QUESTION.

NON WHAT? THROUGH? NON NON SEE THROUGH AND SO I'M ON SEE THROUGH.

AND THERE'S OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAN, THAN THIS.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES, SIR.

JOSH MOORE SPEAKING AS A EAST ADMIN RESIDENT TONIGHT.

UM, I, I, I'VE WATCHED THIS, I DRIVE BY IT A LOT AND SAW THE, THE BANNER OUT FRONT AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

AND SO I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS AND I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS AND I JUST WANNA SHARE IT WITH YOU MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE IF IT COMES UP.

SO WE'VE GOT TO THE WEST, WE HAVE, UH, BOAT AND RV STORAGE THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED THERE.

AND THEN THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.

I'M AWARE OF, UH, OF THOUGHTS OF ACROSS THE ROAD, UM, SOME BOAT AND RV STORAGE AS WELL.

AND MY, MY COMMENT IS THAT THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THIS IN THIS AREA IS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT WATER AND SEWER THERE.

UH, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED RESTROOMS, YOU DON'T, UM, YOU DON'T NEED NEED WATER.

UM, AND SO BECAUSE OF THE LAKE ZONING IN THE AREA, YOU CAN'T DO AN AEROBIC SYSTEM, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LAKE.

AND SO MY POINT IS, I THINK COMPLETELY YOU GET ALL OF, YOU KNOW, HOW VESTED I AM IN ARCADIA LAKE AND ITS FUTURE AND THE PLANNING THERE.

UM, SO I I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT BOAT RV STORAGE IS, IS A NEED AND, AND, AND A GREAT USE IN THAT AREA.

BUT I WOULD CAUTION THAT YOU ONLY NEED IT UP TO A CERTAIN POINT AND, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY THAT IS.

I CAN'T STAND HERE AND SAY THAT I'M, I'M GONNA SAY THIS AT CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.

I I WOULD LOVE AN IDEA OF, UM, NUMBER ONE, GET, GET AHEAD OF THE GAME ON WATER AND SEWER ALONG ROUTE 66, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A WHILE AND,

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BUT IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, UM, I'D LIKE TO TO HEAR MORE DISCUSSION ON, ON HOW MUCH STORAGE IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA AND IS PRACTICAL AT SOME POINT.

THANK YOU MR. MOORE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS? YES, SIR.

HEY, GOOD EVENING.

RICHARD RANK, UH, 100 NORTH CEDAR MOUNTAIN ROAD IN MOUNTAIN VIEW PARK.

UM, ALONG WITH WHAT JOSH SAID, UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR AND THE LAKE AND HAVING A BUNCH OF HIGH, HIGH INTENSITY, UH, BUILDINGS ALONG A SMALL STRETCH OF ROAD JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NO WATER AND SEWER, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE WANT ROUTE 66 TO BE.

I'M NOT AGAINST THIS PROJECT AT ALL.

I THINK MR. BOX AND HIS CLIENTS HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO US.

THE WHOLE REASON THIS CAME UP FROM A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING.

UM, AND AS FAR AS THE FENCING, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE HOW HOW THAT GOES TO THE EAST, BUT THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE TO ALL THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HAD ABOUT LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT IF THIS PROJECT GETS APPROVED, THIS NEEDS TO BE THE PROJECT THAT KIND OF SETS THE STAGE HERE BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ACES BOATHOUSE WHO'S HAD A RIDICULOUS SITE PLAN TO THE EAST THERE, THAT'S HALF IN A FLOOD PLANE, THEN YOU GOT 10 ACRES OF JOE GZA DAY BETWEEN UH, AIR DEPOT AND COOK.

AND THEN YOU HAVE ACROSS THE STREET HOW MUCH BOAT STORAGE DO WE WANT ON ROUTE 66? I MEAN, I KNOW THIS COMES THROUGH KIND OF LIKE DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS HERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY COMES HERE WITH A PROJECT AND SAYS IT'S GREAT, BUT HOW MUCH DO WE REALLY, HOW MUCH BOAT STORAGE DO WE NEED THERE? AND HOW MUCH DO WE WANT? BECAUSE ROUTE 66 IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE INTO TOWN, MAYBE COMMERCIAL ISN'T THERE? COMMERCIAL SHOULD FOLLOW HOUSETOPS.

THERE'S NO HOUSETOPS ON THE HALF, THE HALF THE ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M, I AM AGAIN, I AM FOR IT.

BUT IF THE NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE AFTER THAT, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE WANT THERE.

AND MAYBE IT'S NOT FOR THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO.

MAYBE IT'S A CITY COUNCIL ISSUE.

UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS BASED ON THE, UM, THE RAPPORT THAT I'VE HAD WITH, WITH UH, MR. BOX AND HIS CLIENTS AND EXPECT TO SEE A VERY, VERY COMPREHENSIVE SIDE PLAN THAT THAT WILL LOOK GOOD ON 66 AS WELL AS SATISFIES NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST.

BASICALLY CATTYCORNER FROM DAVID.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? WELL, THE ONLY ISSUE WE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD SIR.

, DAVID SCHLIMMER.

YOU WERE VERY QUIET.

AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME FOR DAVID SCHLIMMER.

OKAY, THANK YOU DAVID.

UM, I LIVE ON BRIDAL WOOD DRIVE JUST EAST OF HERE.

UM, AND I'VE HAD THREE OR FOUR OF MY NEIGHBORS GET REAR ENDED TRYING TO PULL INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT HILL WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD.

THIS IS PRETTY LOW VISIBILITY.

UM, I THINK BEFORE ANY MORE COMMERCIAL LIKE IT ZONED AGRICULTURAL RIGHT NOW, BEFORE MORE AGRICULTURAL LAND GETS TURNED COMMERCIAL, THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH TRAFFIC, WIDEN IT OR STOP LIGHTS OR SPEED LIMITS.

SO OTHERWISE IT'S FINE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT DO THEY DO ABOUT WATER RETENTION ON THAT LOT? ALL PROJECTS ARE REQUIRED TO BASICALLY MEET THE CITY STANDARDS REGARDING WATER RETENTION AND, AND DRAINAGE ISSUES.

YEAH, THEY COLLECT, DON'T HAVE TO COLLECT LIKE THE FIRST TWO INCHES OF RAINWATER IN A RETENTION POND IN THE LAKE.

THE WATER PRESERVATION DISTRICT, THE GENERAL RULE, OR THE GENERAL APPLICABLE RULE AS CITY STAFF WILL STATE IS THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE OR DIVERT MORE WATER FLOWING OFF OF THE PROPERTY THAN WHAT IS ALREADY THERE.

AND SO IF IT REQUIRES WATER TO IN THE LAKE ARCADIA DISTRICT, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT INCH UH, WATER ATTENTION.

I WILL GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED FOR YOU BY STAFF IN A MOMENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES SIR.

AND I THINK YOU WILL BE OUR LAST ONE.

MY NAME'S RANDY TIPPINS.

I LIVE AT 6,500 EACH SECOND.

UH, I'M ALL FOR THE, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE THING AND THAT IS A TRAFFIC DEAL.

THAT HILL THERE IS DANGEROUS.

I'VE LIVED THERE 35 YEARS AND UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPLORED AND TAKEN CARE OF CUZ THERE WILL BE ACCIDENTS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT TAKES A LEFT HAND TURN LANE OR A STOPLIGHT

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OR A SLOWER SPEED LIMIT THROUGH THERE THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I GUESS WE ARE DEFERRING TO YOU IN REGARD TO THE ISSUE REGARDING WATER DRAINAGE.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE ADDRESS THAT AND SURE.

TITLE 23 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE DOES NOT CALL OUT DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE CITY FOR DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.

UH, TITLE 23 AS YOU STATED IS THAT IF THERE'S 10 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND RUNNING OFF THAT UNDEVELOPED LAND, NOW WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED, THE MOST THAT CAN RUN OFF THAT LAND IS 10 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND.

I BELIEVE THAT, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT TECHNIQUES, WHICH IS TO TAKE CARE OF WATER QUALITY, UH, CALLED THE FIRST FLUSH.

SO WHETHER IT'S BIOSWELLS OR PERMEABLE PAVERS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO TAKE CARE OF THE OILS, THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE PAVEMENT THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE THAN STORM WATER DETENTION.

THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR WATER QUALITY MEASURES, NOT ONLY JUST AROUND LAKE, BUT IN THE CITY IN GENERAL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MANNOCK.

I BELIEVE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION FAR BETTER AND ELOQUENTLY THAN I WOULD'VE HAD THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

AND, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M ASSUMING THAT CITY STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THE ISSUE REGARDING TRAFFIC FLOW IN REGARD TO THIS PROJECT, OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FURTHER? WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND WHEN WE GET A SITE PLAN, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR SITE DISTANCE ISSUES, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THE, THAT, UH, TURNING MOVEMENTS CAN BE SEEN AND THEY'RE, UH, SAFE AND APPROPRIATE.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING AS WE GET THE SITE PLAN WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND IF, UH, WE FIND THAT TO BE UNSAFE, CITY WILL STAFF WILL CERTAINLY ADVISE US AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

I'M ASSUMING YOU ARE CORRECT.

UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS? I BELIEVE, UH, THE ONLY THING I, I LOOKED AT THE P U D AND I NOTICED IT STATED THAT, UH, YOU WERE NOT WANTING TO FENCE TO THE BORDERS OF THE PROPERTY, PERHAPS TO USE FENCES THAT WOULD BE LESS OBTRUSIVE OR SOMETHING.

UH, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT.

SURE.

SO UNDER THE, THE PD ON PAGE FOUR, WE SAY, UH, THAT AS AN AL AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO FENCING ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, THE DEVELOPER SHALL HAVE THE OPTION IF APPROVED BY PLAYING COMMISSION TO HAVE THE FENCING SET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE TO TIE INTO THE BUILDING.

SO IT'LL BE SITE PROOF SCREENING, EITHER BY FENCE OR BUILDING WITH A FENCE TIED INTO IT.

I BELIEVE THAT HANDLED ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND YOU.

SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SCENE? NONE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION, BUT WE ARE GONNA BE AMENDING THE LIGHTING TO HAVE NO LIGHTING ON THE, UH, ANY OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE BORDER.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, EXCEPT PERHAPS YES.

I MEAN, PERHAPS ON THE WEST, I'M NOT SURE IT MATTERS, BUT ANY, ANY PLACE IN WHICH RESIDENTIAL EXISTS AROUND US.

RANDY, YOU OKAY? OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.

IT WILL BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER THE 28TH.

I BELIEVE THAT BRINGS US TO NEW BUSINESS.

AND

[6. New Business - (In accordance with the Open Meeting Act, new business is defined as any matter not known about or which could not have been reasonably foreseen prior to the time of posting of the agenda.)]

I'M SORRY.

ONE QUICK THING.

UH, I I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, BUT IN CASE YOU DON'T, WE ARE, UH, HAVE JUST STARTED OUR CODE UPDATE, THAT'S TITLES 21, 22 AND 23, UH, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ZONING, AND, UH, STORM WATER.

UH, AS A PART OF THAT, THE CONSULTANT WANTS TO MEET WITH FOCUS GROUPS.

UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT FOCUS GROUP.

SO EARLY DECEMBER, BE WATCHING FOR A MEETING, INVITE FOR A MEETING, UH, TO MEET WITH CONSULTANTS AND DISCUSS THAT CODE UPDATE.

JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON YOUR RADAR.

YOU AS WELL.

THAT WAS EXCITING.