Mar 27, 2023 City Council

WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS HERE, AND THIS IS JUST REFLECTIVE OF HOW GOOD OUR COMMUNITY IS AND HOW GREAT OUR STUDENTS ARE.

THOSE MEETING MINUTES HAVE PASSED.

AND NOW WE'RE GONNA,

[A. Recognition of the Edmond North Boys & Girls Basketball Teams for the 2023 State Championships. ]

AND HERE WE'RE ON TO DO RECOGNITION RIGHT HERE OF THE EDMOND NORTH BOYS AND GIRLS BASKETBALL TEAMS FOR THE 2023 STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.

YOU MIGHT SEE THEM ON THE COURT IN THEIR JERSEYS, BUT HERE YOU HAVE 'EM IN REAL LIFE.

THESE ARE THE GIRLS .

JUST, THIS IS JUST THE GIRLS BASKETBALL TEAM.

MAYOR, THIS WAS A REPEAT.

THAT'S RIGHT, WASN'T IT? THIS WAS A REPEAT.

AND WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE IN OUR STATE, IN OUR CITY BEFORE, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUT I JUST WANTED, WE WANTED TO BRING YOU DOWN TO RECOGNIZE YOU ALL.

COACH.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING TODAY.

I LIKE SAID A FEW WORDS.

, , UH, I SAY PRETTY LOUD.

GIRLS, MOM, PRETTY LOUD IN PRACTICE.

WE ON TV.

FIRST OF ALL, WE WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR INVITING US DOWN TO HONOR THIS TEAM.

UH, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS CUZ SOME OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THESE GIRLS.

UH, AND I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE BRAGGING ON THEM.

UH, THIS GROUP OF, OF YOUNG LADIES RIGHT HERE IS AN ASTOUND ASTOUNDING GROUP OF YOUNG LADIES.

UM, I KNOW A LOT OF COACHES COME UP HERE AND THEY'LL TELL YOU HOW GREAT THEIR TEAM IS AND WHAT GREAT YOUNG LADIES THESE ARE.

BUT, UH, THESE YOUNG LADIES, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE PLAYING AND THE GAMES IN A SECOND.

IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT THAT, UH, IT'S, THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES, THEM, THEIR FAMILIES, THE SCHOOL OF EDMOND NORTH AND THE CITY OF EDMOND WITH EXCELLENCE.

EVERYWHERE THEY GO, THEY ARE FINE, FINE AMBASSADORS TO THIS TOWN AND TO OUR SCHOOL.

EVERYWHERE THEY GO, WHEN THEY PLAY, THEY DO IT WITH GREAT SPORTSMANSHIP, WITH GREAT ATTITUDE.

EVERYWHERE WE GO, I'M COMPLIMENTED FROM WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANT, UH, WAITRESSES TO HOTEL, FRONT DESK MANAGERS, EVERYWHERE I GO, I'M COMPLIMENTED ON WHAT A GREAT GROUP OF YOUNG LADIES ARE.

I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

UH, ON THE PLAYING FIELD, THIS IS A GROUP THAT HAS, UH, GONE, UH, 57 WINS AND ONE LOSS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WOW.

WE PLAY IN A BRUTAL, UH, CENTRAL LOCAL ATHLETIC CONFERENCE, UH, WITH, WITH, IN THE BEST CONFERENCE IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.

IN MY OPINION, FOUR TEAMS OUT OF OUR CONFERENCE.

WERE IN THE EIGHT TEAMS IN THE STATE TOURNAMENT.

THREE, WERE IN THE FINAL FOUR FROM OUR CONFERENCE.

WE ARE TWO TIME CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS AND THE SIX TOURNAMENTS WE'VE PLAYED, WE'VE WON ALL SIX, UM, UH, BACK TO BACK STATE CHAMPIONS.

AND ANO PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER THINGS, EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE OF THAT.

THIS YEAR, THESE GIRLS WERE THE SIX A, UH, STATE ACADEMIC, STATE CHAMPIONS WITH THE AVERAGE G P F 3.91.

SO IT JUST TELLS YOU, I, I, I'M SUPER PROUD OF THESE GIRLS, AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF OF YOUNG LADIES YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

NOW THIS IS THE NORTH BAT BOYS BASKETBALL COURT.

, ANOTHER REPEAT MAYOR.

AND NONE OF 'EM TAKING ME UP ON MY CHALLENGE OF ONE-ON ONE .

SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING.

JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL.

THIS IS THE, UH, BACK TO BACK CHAMPS, RIGHT? BOY, SIX A MM-HMM.

, UH, BASKETBALL CHAMPS IS GREAT.

IT'S AN HONOR.

I WANTED TO BRING YOU ALL INTO OUR CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS SO THAT THE CITY OF EDMOND COULD ALSO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT HARDWORKING COMMITMENT THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO GET TO THIS, UH, GET TO THIS MOMENT IN YOUR

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YOUNG LIVES.

COACH, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? WE APPRECIATE THAT.

GOTTA COME DOWN .

I'M JUST USED TO YELLING .

THAT'S WHAT ALL COACHES SAY.

NO, I, I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US.

AND, UH, IT WAS YOUR DAUGHTER'S VISION THAT BROUGHT ME TO EDMOND NORTH, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO.

SO I OWE YOUR FAMILY A, A DEEP, UH, GRATITUDE AND, AND TREMENDOUSLY BLESSED TO HAVE BEEN AROUND HER THE AMOUNT OF TIME I WAS AROUND HER.

UH, BUT THESE, THESE GUYS ARE AMAZING.

UM, THEY REALLY DRESSED UP, UH, APPROPRIATELY.

, NO, BUT WHAT A GREAT HONOR TO BE HERE WITH OUR, OUR WOMEN'S TEAM.

UH, WE ARE THE ONLY SCHOOL IN OKLAHOMA STATE HISTORY TO WIN BACK TO BACK STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS IN BOYS AND GIRLS BASKETBALL.

THAT'S AMAZING.

UH, LAST YEAR WE WERE THE FIRST SIX A SCHOOL TO WIN BACK TO BACK OR WIN A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TOGETHER.

BOYS AND GIRLS IN, IN THIS YEAR, WE DID THAT.

SO INCREDIBLE.

JUST LIKE WHAT, UH, COACH PETE TALKED ABOUT.

THESE ARE TREMENDOUS YOUNG MEN ON AND OFF THE COURT.

UH, CUMULATED GPA OF 3.667.

IN THE CLASSROOM IN EDMOND NORTH IS ONE OF, IF NOT THE BEST ACADEMIC HIGH SCHOOL IN, IN THE STATE.

UH, JUST A FUN GROUP TO BE AROUND EVERY DAY IN TODAY'S WORLD OF BASKETBALL WITH, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE KEVIN DURANT JUMPING TEAMS EVERY YEAR, OR THE TRANSFER TRANSFER PORTAL IN INDIVIDUAL ONE, BASKETBALL AND N I L MONEY.

THESE KIDS WERE COMMITTED TO BEING A PART OF A TEAM AND FOCUSING IN ON ONE GOAL.

UH, VERY EXCITED FOR THEM AND THEIR FUTURE.

UH, WE HAVE CONNOR MILLS, WHO'S MAYOR.

MAYOR IN WAITING, UH, , NO, JUST TO, I CAN'T BE MORE PROUD TO BE THEIR COACH AND BE ABLE TO BE AROUND THEM ON A DAILY BASIS.

THEY'VE CHANGED ME.

UH, THEY'VE CHANGED THE WAY THAT I, I VIEW, UH, LIFE AND THE GAME OF BASKETBALL.

SO I'M A TREMENDOUSLY BLESSED TO BE AROUND THEM EVERY DAY.

AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZE US.

IT'S A TREMENDOUS HONOR FOR US TO BE HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE HERE, YOU KNOW, NEXT, YOU KNOW, END OF MAY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

SOUNDS GREAT.

APPRECIATE YOU.

REMEMBER, GENTLEMEN, WORK ON THAT LEFT HAND .

THEY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING TO.

REALLY.

I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD AT IT.

ALL RIGHT NOW? YEP.

NOW FOR THE

[B. Recognition of the Edmond North Swim Team for the 2023 State Championship. ]

AQUATIC WORLD.

HERE'S OUR NORTH'S SWIM TEAM.

THIS IS THE BOYS.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EDMOND SWING, SPECIFICALLY THESE LAST COUPLE YEARS AT NORTH.

AND YOU SEE SOME GUYS UP THERE HAVE THE MICHAEL PHELPS BODIES AND ALL THAT TO BE GOOD.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO PASS THE IN.

OH, THE GIRLS GOT THE DOOR SHUT.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO BOYS AND GIRLS.

, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

I'M HEATHER DEVOE.

I AM THE HEAD COACH HERE IN EDMOND FOR ALL THREE HIGH SCHOOLS.

I AM FORTUNATE IN MY POSITION THAT I GET TO CELEBRATE ALL OF OUR WINS AT ALL OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.

THESE LAST COUPLE YEARS HAVE BEEN REALLY, ACTUALLY, THESE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD YEARS FOR EDMOND NORTH.

LOTS OF HARD WORK, LOTS OF DETERMINATION AND TEAMWORK.

UM, SO YOU ARE STARING AT THE, UH, 2023 BOY STATE CHAMPS AND THE 2000 THAT'S RIGHT.

EXCELLENT.

AND THE 2022 GIRLS STATE CHAMP.

UH, IN THIS, IN THIS GROUP OF SWIMMERS, UM, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CONFERENCE RECORDS, UH, AND WINS AND REGIONAL TITLES, INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE WINS, AND ALSO AT THE STATE LEVEL, UH, INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE WHIMS. UM, THE NORTH BOYS THIS YEAR SWEPT, UH, I'M SORRY, THE NORTH TEAM, EXCUSE ME, SWEPT ALL OF THEIR RELAYS THIS YEAR.

WON ALL OF THOSE.

SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

THE OTHER THING IS, UM, IN THIS GROUP OF SWIMMERS, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW WITH INDIVIDUAL, UM, SCHOOL RECORDS AT EDMOND NORTH AND ALSO, UM, RELAY STATE RECORDS OR SCHOOL RECORDS RATHER, AT EDMOND NORTH.

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AND, UM, THEIR TWO COACHES AND I ARE REALLY PROUD AND REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE IS FOR EDMOND NORTH.

SO, UH, GUYS, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL IN THE HALL WORK, AND HOPEFULLY YOU DO LIKE SWIMMING IN THE POOL UP AT MITCH PARK.

THANKS.

SEE HERE NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? YEP.

GOT THE, OUR AVERAGE AGE IS ONE UP BY 30 YEARS.

I KNOW .

NOW, THE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RECAP.

THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THAT JUST, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR, THAT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU THE BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR FUTURE, THESE, THESE ATHLETES.

AND WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS HERE THAT WE JUST NEED TO DO 'EM FROM ALL, WHEN THEY WIN SIX, EIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS, WE JUST NEED TO CELEBRATE IT DOWN HERE EACH AND EVERY TIME.

[C. Recap of the Simply Indie 2023 Film Festival.]

GLEN'S GONNA DO THAT.

GLEN'S GONNA DO THAT OF THE SIMPLY INDIE 2023 FILM FESTIVAL.

GREATLY.

I WAS HOP I HAD COMPANY THIS EVENING, BUT I DON'T, THEY ARE DETAINED.

I IMAGINE THEY'RE PROBABLY, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.

I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS.

UM, I WANT TO, TO INTRODUCE LINDSAY AND MARISSA CARLSON.

THEY PUT TOGETHER THE SIMPLY IN THE FILM FEST.

THEY STARTED IN 2020, TOOK A YEAR OFF BECAUSE OF COVID.

CAME BACK STRONG IN 2022 WITH A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH SHOW BIZ CINEMA.

AND THEY DID THEIR, UH, THIRD YEAR, UH, STARTING MARCH 2ND WAS THE KICKOFF NIGHT.

AND THEN MARCH 3RD AND FOURTH, THEY HAD 72 FILMS OVER THE WEEKEND.

AND I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SEE SOME OF THOSE FILMS, BUT THEY HAVE ARTISTS FROM NOT ONLY THE OKLAHOMA AREA, BUT WORLDWIDE.

SO IT'S A GREAT EVENT.

UM, I AM VERY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND BROUGHT INDEPENDENT FILM TO EDMOND, OKLAHOMA.

SORRY, .

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US CITY COUNCIL.

UM, LIKE, UM, GLEN SAID, I AM LINDSAY CARLSON.

I'M MARISA CARLSON, AND WE ARE SIMPLY INDIE.

AND, UH, OUR MISSION IS BUILDING COMMUNITY THROUGH FILM.

UH, WE DO HAVE A VIDEO.

WE'LL SEE IF IT PLAYS.

THAT'S ALWAYS THE TEST HERE.

THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT FROM THIS YEAR.

WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE COME INTO TOWN FROM ALL OVER, AND WE HAD A GREAT TIME.

OH, WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN, .

UM, WE HAD PEOPLE COME IN, LIKE WE SAID, FROM ALL OVER, UM, FILMMAKERS, UH, AND OF COURSE THEIR FANS COME TO SEE THE FILM.

SO WE HAD A REALLY GOOD YEAR THIS YEAR.

UM, SIMPLY INDY WAS BORN OUT OF WANTING TO BRING MORE FILM INTO EDMOND.

WE HAVE A LOT OF AWESOME ART HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF FILM.

AND FILM IS BLOWING UP IN THE STATE, AS YOU KNOW.

AND SO WE WANTED EDMOND TO HAVE A PIECE OF THAT.

AND THINGS ARE GOING WELL SO FAR.

UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE, THE REVIEWS THAT WE'VE HAD ON FILM FREEWAY, WHICH IS WHERE WE GET ALL OF OUR FILMS FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

UM, AND ONE OF OUR FAVORITE ONES THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS ONE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.

IT SAYS, SIMPLY INDY WAS AMAZING, INCREDIBLE VENUES, LARGE AUDIENCE TURNOUTS, FANTASTIC FORUMS, AND WONDERFUL PARTIES RUN BY THE NICEST PEOPLE YOU'LL EVER MEET.

WE DID NOT PAY THEM FOR THAT .

UM, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE SUBMITTING AGAIN.

AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OKLAHOMA, SOMEONE FROM NEW YORK, AND SOMEONE FROM TEXAS REPRESENTED.

WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, UM, THAT, THAT

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CAME.

AND WERE A PART OF SIMPLY INDY.

AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT THAT.

UM, ON OUR NEXT SLIDE, UM, I, UH, WANNA TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD 580 HOURS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH THIS PAST YEAR WITH INDEPENDENT FILM HERE IN EDMOND.

UM, AND WE ARE PARTNERED WITH THE EDMUND FINE ARTS INSTITUTE, WHERE WE HAVE DONE 438 HOURS OF FILM CLASSES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE PLAYED 26 HOURS OF INDEPENDENT FILM, 22 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.

WERE REPRESENTED IN OUR FILM FESTIVAL THIS YEAR.

AND WE DO HAVE A PODCAST.

AND, UH, WE JUST DID OUR 34TH EPISODE, SO LOTS OF GOOD FILM INFORMATION FLYING OUT AROUND THERE AROUND EDMOND, ABOUT, ABOUT SIMPLY INDY.

THIS YEAR WE DID A SHORT FEST.

SO ALL OF OUR, UH, FILMS WERE 40 MINUTES OR LESS, WHICH WAS REALLY FUN.

SO YOU COULD SEE SEVERAL THINGS IN ONE BLOCK.

SO WE HAD 72 FILMS AT THE FEST.

WE DID SCREENPLAY TABLE READS, WHICH WERE SO GREAT.

WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT, UM, FOR, WITH 20 SCREENPLAYS.

AND WE HAD, WE SELECTED 23 PHOTOGRAPHS AS WELL TO BE IN COMPETITION.

AND WE HAD OVER 1100 FILM FESTIVAL ATTENDEES THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT OF OVER A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH I AM SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED THIS THREE YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE POSSIBLE, AND IT JUST KEEPS GROWING.

SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A PLACE TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WANNA GIVE A, A SHOUT OUT TO THE EDMOND FINE ARTS INSTITUTE.

THAT IS WHERE WE HOUSE.

SO IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO FAI, WE'RE TUCKED BACK IN THE CORNER BY THE THEATER AND IT'S PERFECT.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR SPONSORS.

UM, I KNOW GLENN INTRODUCED US, BUT EDMOND ELECTRIC AND THEN VISIT EDMOND POST, POST 4 0 5 CITIZENS BANK, AMBOX.

UM, AND THEN WE GOT SOME GREAT LOCAL HELP AS WELL FROM FRANCIS TUTTLE, FRENZY EMPIRE, THE LARK, AND OTHER PRIVATE DONORS.

UM, AND SO I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE OUR LAST MINUTE HERE AND JUST LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PARTNERED AS WELL WITH UCO AND WE WILL BE SHOOTING A DOCUMENTARY ON THE UCO ENDEAVOR GAMES COMING UP THIS YEAR.

THAT'S EXCITING.

UM, I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING SEVERAL DIFFERENT ATHLETES WITH DIFFERENT DISABILITIES FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

UH, AND WE ARE GONNA PUT EDMUND TOTALLY ON THE MAP WITH THIS AND UCL ON THE MAP WITH THIS, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR WANNA GET INVOLVED, PLEASE, PLEASE FIND US.

WE WANT YOU TO BE, AND WE WANT THIS TO BE A THING, UH, THAT WE GET TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND WITH.

SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WONDER IF IT HAS GOT ME WITH 22 COUNTRIES.

WE'RE REPRESENTED IN THIS THIS TIME.

NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ABOUT THE UPCOMING ROAD RESURFACING PROJECT ON ROUTE 66.

[D. Presentation by the Oklahoma Department of Transportation about the upcoming road resurfacing project on Route 66 (2nd Street) and Route 77 (Broadway).]

SOME PEOPLE KNOW IT AS SECOND STREET IN ROUTE SEVEN.

SOME PEOPLE KNOW THAT AS BROADWAY.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, I'M TRENTON, JANUARY.

I'M THE DISTRICT FOUR ENGINEER WITH THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, TO TAKE TO, TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT A PROJECT, AN UPCOMING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE, UM, COMING UP IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, UM, DISTRICT FOUR COVERS THE OKLAHOMA CITY METRO AREA, UM, OKLAHOMA, CANADIAN COUNTIES, AND ALSO GOES NORTH ALL THE WAY TO KANSAS.

LINE ALONG I 35.

SO THAT'S OUR WHOLE DISTRICT BOUNDARY AREA, BUT EDMOND IS, IS INCLUDED IN OUR AREA.

SO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN UP HERE, UM, THESE ARE THE PROJECT EXTENDS OF THE PROJECT.

STARTING THERE AT, I HAD 35 HEADING WEST TO, UH, BROADWAY, AND THEN GOING SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO, UH, COMFORT DRIVE.

YOU WANT MARK, YOU WANT A HIGHLIGHTER? UH, SO LIKE I SAID, UH, THE PROJECT, EITHER WAY YOU WANNA START.

UM, WE'RE STARTING HERE AT JUST OFF OF I 35, WHERE THAT CONCRETE SECTION IS HEADING WEST TOWARDS BROADWAY, ALONG SECOND STREET, AND THEN HEADING SOUTH, UM, DOWN HERE TO, UH, TO COMFORT DRIVE.

UM, THIS WAS A NEARLY $9 MILLION RESURFACING PROJECT DESIGNED TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE PAYMENT AND UPGRADE THE DRIVING CONDITIONS ALONG US 77 BROADWAY, US 77 STATE HIGHWAY 66 AND SECOND STREET.

THE OTHER THING THIS PROJECT DOES IS YOU MAY SEE FROM TIME TO TIME, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OUT THERE PATCHING POTHOLE, UM, TRYING TO KEEP IT IN A DECENT STATE OF REPAIR.

THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SHUT DOWN LANES DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

IT'LL ALLOW TRAFFIC TO FLOW A LOT EASIER, AND IT'LL ALSO GIVE A BETTER AND SMOOTH PAYMENT, UM, THROUGH THIS HIGHLY, HIGHLY TRAVELED CORRIDOR.

UM, AS I SAID, THE WORK WILL TAKE PLACE ON BROADWAY BETWEEN THE EDMOND CITY LIMITS AND SECOND STREET, AND WORK ON SECOND STREET WILL OCCUR BETWEEN BROADWAY AND SOONER ROAD, JUST WEST OF I 35.

THE WORK IS SCHEDULED TO, WE'RE EXPECTING TO START APRIL 10TH, UH, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.

BUT THAT IS, THAT IS THE ANTICIPATED START DATE.

AND THE COMPLETION IS

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ANTICIPATED BY THE FALL.

AGAIN, ALL WEATHER PERMITTING WORK FOR THIS PROJECT WILL GENERALLY TAKE PLACE BETWEEN 8:00 PM TO 6:00 AM NIGHTLY TO LESSEN THE IMPACT TO THE MOTORS.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING AT NIGHT.

THERE IS ONE SECTION THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A LANE CLOSURE, WHICH I'LL GET TO, UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER.

BUT, UM, DOING THIS WORK AT NIGHT WILL LESSEN THE IMPACT TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC AND LESSEN THE IMPACT TO THE ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

UM, ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, HASKELL LEMON IS THE PRIME CONTRACTOR.

THEY'RE HERE WITH US THAT WILL BE DOING THE WORK.

UM, THEY HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, SUBS THAT WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM, BUT HASKELL LEMON WILL BE DOING, PRIMARILY DOING, UH, MOST OF THE WORK.

AND I KNOW I, I CURRENTLY MOVED TO EDMOND AND I KNOW THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK AROUND TOWN.

SO YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THEY DO.

UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THE PROJECT.

UM, THE FIRST PRO, THE FIRST SECTION THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS IT'S KIND OF THIS TEAL AREA RIGHT HERE, UM, JUST SOUTH OF 15TH ON BROADWAY.

UM, THERE'S THAT SECTION ON THE, THE VERY FAR RIGHT LANE THAT IS JUST CONCRETE, JUST SOUTH OF 15TH.

AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS WE'RE PLANNING TO RIP OUT ALL THAT CONCRETE AND REPLACE IT WITH ASPHALT.

SO WE HAVE A, A SURFACE THAT IS THE SAME COMPLETELY ACROSS.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONCRETE THIS LANE, ASPHALT AND ASPHALT.

SO WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CLOSE THAT INS THAT, THAT INSIDE LANE THERE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO RIP IT OUT.

AND THE PLAN WITH THAT IS WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN, IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES, AND WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES TO HELP WITH DRIVEWAY ACCESS IN THAT AREA.

SO WE'RE NOT PROHIBITING, UM, WE'RE NOT MAKING THOSE, THOSE, THOSE CLOSURES LONGER THAN THEY NEED TO BE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ON SOUTH BROADWAY OR ON BROADWAY, SOUTH OF 15TH STREET, IS WORK BETWEEN THE SUMO RESTAURANT AND HOME DEPOT.

UM, AND THIS IS, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FEW SECTIONS WHERE YOU WILL SEE A DAYTIME CLOSURE.

UM, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GET IN THERE AND, AND, AND GET IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO, TO, TO NOT, TO KEEP THAT, TO KEEP THAT LANE OPEN, UM, LATER THIS SPRING.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE STARTING OVER HERE IN THIS CONCRETE SECTION, UM, WHERE THAT, I GUESS IT'S KIND OF A MAROON AREA RIGHT THERE.

I'M POINTING THAT RIGHT THERE.

UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS WE'RE GOING TO DOW BAR RETROFIT AND DIAMOND GRIND, THAT CONCRETE.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE GOING TO BE, CURRENTLY, IT'S VERY ROUGH, AND THOSE PANELS HAVE FAULTED AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HIT THAT BUMP.

SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THERE AND DO IS WE'RE GONNA GO IN THERE AND WHAT A, WHAT A DOW BAR RETROFIT IS, IS TIE THOSE PANELS TOGETHER.

AND WHEN, BY TYING THOSE PANELS TOGETHER, IT HELPS WHEN TRAFFIC DRIVES OVER IT, IT MOVES AS ONE UNIT INSTEAD OF MOVING AS SEPARATE UNITS.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET DEFAULTING.

SO ONCE WE PUT THE DOW BAR IN THERE, TIE THOSE PANELS TOGETHER, WE'LL COME THERE AND GRIND THAT SURFACE TO MAKE IT SMOOTHER.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS ONE ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT IS TO SMOOTH UP THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, WHERE THAT CONCRETE IS.

AND THEN THE LAST SECTION, UM, THE LAST COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS ON SOUTH BROADWAY AND ON SECOND STREET, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A TWO INCH MILL, REMOVING THE ASPHALT AND PLACING NEW ASPHALT ON THROUGH THIS ENTIRE SECTION.

UM, WE WILL ALSO BE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, WE'LL RE STRIPE THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO END UP, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO MILL THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE OUR TRAFFIC LOOP SENSORS ARE, OR THE CITY OF EDMOND'S, TRAFFIC LOOP SENSORS ARE, WE'LL BE REPLACING THOSE AS WELL.

SO THE MOTORISTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY SHOULD EXPECT IS AT NIGHT, THEY SHOULD EXPECT LANE SHIFTS.

THERE WILL ALSO BE INTERMITTENT ON BROADWAY.

THERE'LL BE INTERMITTENT, UM, MEDIAN CLOSURES, UM, THAT WILL NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

SO WE CAN GET IN THERE AND REPAVE THAT SECTION AS WELL.

AND WE WILL WORK NOT TO CLOSE SEVERAL CONSECUTIVE ONES IN A ROW.

SO YOU CAN EASILY GO PAST THE FIRST ONE THAT MAY BE CLOSED AND BE ABLE TO GET TO YOUR DESTINATION TO TURN BACK AROUND OR PULL THROUGH TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.

SO THOSE MAJORITY OF THE WORK WILL BE DONE AT NIGHT.

ALL THAT WORK WILL BE DONE AT NIGHT.

AGAIN, THE ONLY ONE THAT'LL BE DONE DURING THE DAY, A LANE CLOSURE DURING THE DAY WILL BE THIS SECTION HERE, JUST SOUTH OF 15TH STREET.

UM, IT'LL BE A MOVING OPERATION, AND THE CONTRACTOR'S GONNA WORK IN SEGMENTS TO ONE TO TWO MILES AT A TIME.

SO DURING THE NIGHT, IF YOU'RE OUT, YOU SHOULD EXPECT SOME LOWER SPEEDS WITHIN THOSE WORK ZONES, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ONE TO TWO LANES CLOSED, DEPENDING ON WHICH LANE THEY'RE WORKING IN.

IF THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE LANE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE TWO LANES CLOSED FOR SAFETY.

UM, SO JUST DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE WITHIN THE PROJECT, UM, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE

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THINGS THAT YOU CAN EXPECT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSE WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND, UM, CURRENTLY, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON WORK WITH THE CITY ED OF EDMOND, UM, ON OUR COMMUNICATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROJECT WHERE WE ARE ON THE PROJECT.

BUT AS YOU WAKE UP EVERY MORNING, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WHERE WE'VE, WHERE WE'VE STARTED AND WHERE WE'VE ENDED.

AND I SAY WE, I MEAN, HAS FULL LIMIT.

UM, THEY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT EVERY MORNING, WHERE THEY'VE STARTED, WHERE THEY'VE GONE.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE PROGRESS EVERY MORNING WHEN YOU WAKE UP SO THAT THE, THE EVERY MORNING, ALL THE LANES AGAIN, EXCEPT FOR JUST SOUTH OF 15TH WHEN WE START WORK ON THAT.

AND THAT'S THE FIRST PIECE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WILL BE OPEN.

SO YOU'LL HAVE FULL ACCESS TO EVERYTHING EXCEPT MAYBE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, A MEETING OPENING.

IT MAY BE CLOSED, THERE'LL BE ONE OR TWO MEETING OPENINGS CLOSED.

UM, AND TO, TO, TO GET UPDATES.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE, THE, THE CITY OF EDMOND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE, THOSE UPDATES OUT.

OR YOU CAN ALSO GO TO OUR WEBSITE O DOT.ORG OR IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE BEST WAY TO GET AHOLD OF US IS TO EMAIL US@OINFOO.ORG.

UM, AND, AND WE WILL TRY TO, WE WILL, WE WILL GET THOSE EMAILS, UH, THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATION GROUP, UM, AND, AND, AND ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS AS THEY COME IN.

AND AS WE MOVE ALONG THROUGH THE PROJECT, HASKELL DOES A GOOD JOB OF TALKING WITH, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THEY CAN ANTICIPATE OR WHAT THEY EXPECT TO HAPPEN.

OR AGAIN, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US AGAIN TO TO, TO HELP ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, WE GOT A CONSULTANT ON BOARD TETRATECH THAT'S GONNA HELP US WITH THE INSPECTION AS WELL, SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO WE GOT, WE FEEL LIKE WE GOT A VERY GOOD PLAN IN PLACE FOR THIS ENTIRE CORRIDOR TO IMPROVE THE PAYMENT THROUGH EDMOND.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY NEEDED PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR A WHILE.

UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO, TO GET THIS PROJECT, UH, DONE AND COMPLETED.

UM, UM, AND, AND WORKING AND WORKING WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF MY, UH, RUNDOWN OF THE, UH, OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.

AND I'D BE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU SAID IT IS FROM 8:00 PM TO 6:00 AM SO AT 6:00 AM THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETELY OFF THE, THE BARRELS ARE GONE.

BARRELS ARE GONE.

BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT OFF THE ROAD, AND JAY KNOWS THIS, WE START ASSIGNING LANE LANE RENTAL ASSESSMENTS TO THEM.

SO FOR EVERY HOWEVER LONG THEY ARE ON THERE STILL, THEY HAVE THAT LANE CLOSED.

THEY GET A LANE RENTAL PUT ON THEM FOR NOT HAVING THAT LANE OPEN BY 6:00 AM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, TRENT.

UHHUH? YES, SIR.

DID YOU HAVE A ASK QUESTION? SURE.

BECAUSE COME ON UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF SO WE CAN HAVE GOOD QUESTION.

REAL QUICK.

I'M SORRY, I JUST, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS THE COME ON UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN WE CAN HAVE YOUR QUESTION PLEASE.

MY NAME'S CHIP MOLES.

MY QUESTION IS, WE GOT TWO PRETTY BIG INTERSECTIONS, 15TH AND BROADWAY, AND 33RD AND BROADWAY.

WHEN YOU CUT THE SENSORS OUT, WILL THE LIGHTS THEN BE JUST ON TIMER THEN? HOW, HOW WILL THE LIGHTS OPERATE? SO, UH, THE, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, I GUESS.

, THE CITY OF EDMOND ALSO HAS A VIDEO DETECTION, UM, IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS AS WELL.

SO WE WON'T BE INTERRUPTING ANY OF THE SIGNALS.

UM, THEY, THAT'S AGAIN, A PROJECT WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND ON, UM, THEY, THEY PUT UP A VIDEO DETECTION ON ALL THEIR SIGNALS, SO IT WON'T BE INTERRUPTED AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS.

OKAY, NOW WE'RE ON THE NUMBER E, ANOTHER PRESENTATION.

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE.

[E. Presentation by Edmond Land Conservancy, Inc. of a proposed conservation easement on park property, located south of E.C. Hafer Park. (Ward 1)]

DEREK SMITHY'S GONNA COME FORWARD AND TALK TO US ABOUT THE E S E L C.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

IT'S AN EXCITING EVENING TO GET TO COME TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT PROGRESS AND COMPLETION OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS OF WORK ON EDMONDS NEWEST PARK, THE PRESERVE AT HAYFORD PARK.

UH, WHAT I'M GONNA DO FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES IS GO OVER, MOSTLY A LITTLE BIT ON PROCESS, MOSTLY ON PRODUCT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GONE OVER HISTORY IN THE PREVIOUS TWO MEETINGS.

SO I, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO BELABOR THAT POINT VERY MUCH.

SO I DO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE THAT IF I SAY ANYTHING WRONG, I AM CERTAIN THEY WILL CORRECT MY MISSPEAKING.

SO WE ARE AT EDMONDS NEWEST PARK, THE PRESERVE OF HAER PARK, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU UNAWARE, UM, IT'S THE 22 ACRES IN THE YELLOW DASH LINE JUST SOUTH OF HAER PARK, SOUTH OF SPRING CREEK.

MOST

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PEOPLE KNOW WHERE PANERA BREAD IS, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY BEHIND PANERA BREAD.

UH, AND THAT BANK FIRST LOCATION.

UM, THE VOTERS BROUGHT THAT INTO THE CITY OF EDMOND.

THE, UH, TO BRING IT INTO THE CITY OF EDMOND DONORSHIP.

YOU GUYS CHARGED US TO THE EDMOND LAND CONSERVANCY OF INVESTIGATING THE POTENTIAL OF PUTTING THAT IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND WE, THROUGH E C AND THE EL C WORK GROUP, A SPECIAL WORK GROUP FORMED TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS, UH, HAVE MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORS, UH, HAVE WORKED OVER THE LAST YEAR TO COME UP WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

THE EIGHT PEOPLE ON THE LEFT, THE NINE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT ARE THE EDMUND LAND CONSERVANCY, AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP ON THE WORKING GROUP IS ON THE RIGHT.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY REPRESENT NOT ONLY EL C, BUT YOU KNOW, RYAN WITH THE CITY, SEVERAL CITIZEN COMMITTEE MEMBERS, JACQUELINE AND LYDIA, CHAD KING AND ECOLOGICAL EXPERT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA.

AND TAYLOR HILDENBRAND, WHO WAS REPRESENTING THE CITY OF EDMOND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

REAL BRIEF HISTORY TIMELINE, UH, YOU GUYS KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS.

THE 22 ACRES PASSED, WE FORMED A WORD GROUP.

WE'VE DRAFTED LANGUAGE, WE VISITED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UH, WE DID AN ECOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT LATE LAST YEAR.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND HOW THAT WOULD LOOK AND LANGUAGE WITHIN IT.

WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY HAD A COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY SET UP TO HAVE THE PUBLIC LISTEN TO US AND US LISTEN TO THEM.

UH, AND THEN WE HAD A DRAFT CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY, ALONG WITH AND COMPANION MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE LISTENING SESSION.

WE WERE HONORED TO HAVE JOSH IN ATTENDANCE.

UH, IT WAS PRETTY WELL ATTENDED FOR A NOT TOO ACCOMMODATING EVENING.

IT WAS FRIGID THAT NIGHT.

SO WE WERE HAPPY TO GET THAT MANY PEOPLE, AND WE WERE EXCITED, FRANKLY, WHEN WE LEFT THAT MEETING BECAUSE WE HAD NOTHING GIVEN TO US.

BUT AT AVOS THERE WAS NO, YOU SAY TANDY CREATURES.

IT WAS, THAT WAS A GREAT PIECE OF WORK AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.

I WANTED TO BRIEFLY ALSO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF FOUNDATIONAL UNDERPINNINGS ON THE PROJECT THAT WE FELT WERE CRITICAL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

OF COURSE, NATURE FIRST AND PEOPLE SECOND WAS KIND OF A MANTRA THAT WE, WE ENJOYED UTILIZING FAR TOO OFTEN IN OUR MEETINGS.

WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE UTILIZED EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS CAN BE PRETTY HIGH.

SO WATER, ROADS, PARKING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE.

AND IF WE COULD USE HAER PARK FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WE WANTED TO DO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, WE WANTED TO STAY WITHIN THE 1.5 ISH MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE TO SPEND BECAUSE THE CITY SPENT AROUND $4 MILLION TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY.

THAT GAVE US AN OPERATING BUDGET OF ABOUT 1.5, 1.6 MILLION.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD AN ECOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT IN PLACE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROTECT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW, WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

SO WE WANNA KNOW WHAT WE HAD TO WORK WITH.

SO THE UCO STAFF AND PROFESSORS GOT TO WORK, DID A BRILLIANT PIECE OF WORK ON AN ECOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT, UH, AND BROUGHT THAT TO US.

LOOKED AT SOILS, TREES, OTHER VEGETATION, REPTILES, AMPHIBIANS, BIRDS, MAMMALS.

IT'S A PRETTY EXHAUSTIVE REPORT.

AND THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

WE WANTED TO EARMARK FARMS FOR RESTORATION.

SO EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS GOING TO BE A NATURE PARK, A MINIMALLY DISTURB, UH, MINERAL, MINIMALLY DISTURBED NATURAL AREA, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESTORATION THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN TO MAKE IT A NATURAL AREA AGAIN OCCURRED.

BECAUSE THIS WAS A FARM AT ONE TIME, THERE WAS A HOME PLACE THERE.

SO THERE ARE NON-NATIVE SPECIES, EVEN NATIVE SPECIES THAT CAN BECOME SOMEWHAT INVASIVE, THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL THOSE EDUCATIONAL PIECE.

BECAUSE WHEN THIS IS PUT IN PLACE, WE BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE A KEY EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT FOR EDMOND SCHOOLS AND UCO.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMPOSITION OF THE WORK GROUP WAS GOOD.

WE WANNA DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF EASEMENT ISSUES, UH, THAT BARRETT FERRETED OUT.

THERE WERE SOME CURIOSITIES IN THOSE MULTIPLE EASEMENTS ON THAT 22 ACRES, BUT WE FOUGHT THROUGH THOSE AND IN THE END, WE CREATED A MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY HOW WE'RE GONNA EXECUTE THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND LANGUAGE IN THE EASEMENT.

SO HERE'S THE DUE DILIGENCE PART.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE UPDATED YOU ALL QUARTERLY.

WE HAD THE PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION I JUST MENTIONED EARLIER.

WE MET WITH PUB WITH THE PARKS AND REC PEOPLE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

WE MET WITH URBAN FORESTRY, AND I DO WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO LIKE KURT ATKINSON, WHO DID A NICE PIECE OF WORK ON THE 22 ACRES WITH A TREE FOCUS, A FORESTRY FOCUS.

SO WE HAD THAT TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

UH, WE MET WITH THE ENJOINING LANDOWNER, UH,

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NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, AND THEN WE DID SOME PODCAST ARTICLES AND OTHER PUBLIC FORUMS. NOW HERE'S SOME KEY POINTS AS WE GO FORWARD, ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE EASEMENT.

NOW THE EASEMENT, AS YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND, A CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS A LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT, WHICH RESTRICTS WHAT CAN HAPPEN ON THE 22 ACRES AND PERPETUITY.

WELL, WHEN THE VOTE HAPPENED, IT WAS ON THE 22 ACRES THAT YOU MIGHT RECALL FROM THAT MAP.

BUT AS YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MINUTE, THAT PROPERTY, UH, DOES NOT ACTUALLY ABUT SPRING CREEK TO THE NORTH.

AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BE ABOUT 25 TO 28 ACRES.

AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

UH, I WANT TO POINT OUT DIFFERENCES IN THE TRACKS.

THERE ARE SOME DOS AND DOTS, MOST OF WHICH ARE OBVIOUS IN EDMOND PARKS.

BUT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO YOU ALL, UH, IN THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE PURPOSE AND THE PERMANENCE IS CAREFULLY ANNUNCIATED IN BOTH THE EASEMENT AND THE MOU.

AND THEN THE MEMORANDUM, MEMORANDUM, UNDERSTANDING HOW, WHEN, AND WHERES OF THE EASEMENT DOS AND DONTS.

HOW DOES EDMOND ACTUALLY GO ABOUT MAKING THIS HAPPEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE EDMOND LAND CONSERVANCY? BECAUSE IF YOU ALL ADOPT THIS, IT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND YOUR EDMUND LAND CONSERVANCY.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE EMPHASIS WOULD BE ON COLLABORATION AND FLEXIBILITY.

NOW, THERE'S AN ACCESS STRIP, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN, UH, IN JUST A MINUTE.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ACCESS STRIP, UH, WE ARE APPROACHING THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THAT ACCESS STRIP COULD BE ACCESSED TO 15TH STREET, BUT RIGHT NOW DOES NOT EXIST.

UM, THE ACTUAL LAND UNDER EASEMENT WOULD BE 22 ACRES, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING 25 OR 28.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

UH, THE PARTNERSHIP, AS I MENTIONED, BETWEEN EOC AND THE CITY OF EDMOND.

AND WE'RE KIND OF PROPOSING AS A STRAW MAN, THE MODEL OF USING THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AS THE CONDUIT TO EXECUTE THE WILL OF BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE EL C TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS HONORED.

UH, TALK ABOUT MAYBE THE CONSERVATION OF THE PARKS MORE.

YOU KNOW, A CONSERVATION COMPONENT WE NOTICED IS MAYBE MISSING, MISSING IN THE PARKS AND RED BOARD.

WE THOUGHT MAYBE A CONSERVATION VISION LENS MIGHT BE IMPORTANT THERE, PERHAPS EVEN NLC MEMBER.

AND THEN THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND ORDINARY ON A PARK HERE IS THE TRACKS AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST.

UH, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UH, ONE, UH, OH, ONE IS THE TRACK UP ABOVE FOUR.

ONE IS A 22 ACRE TRACK THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ACCESS TRACK JUST TO THE SOUTH THAT GOES TWO 15TH STREET IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

AND IN THE M MOU, THAT TRACK IS WHAT IS BEING DEALT WITH IN A UNIQUE WAY.

AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROPOSES AND CONTEMPLATES A POTENTIAL PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH LANDOWNERS, ADJOINING LANDOWNERS TO MAKE PARKING AND VEHICULAR VEHICULAR ACCESS AND PARKING, AND THEN FOOT TRAFFIC INTO THE PRESERVED PROPERTY.

THE OFFICIAL PROPOSAL THAT'S COMING TO YOU TODAY INCLUDES A BRIDGE FROM HAYFORD PARK INTO THE, INTO THE PROPERTY.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE ACCESS TRACT.

WE ARE PROPOSING THAT BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY AND UNIQUELY TO FACILITATE A PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THAT TRACKS FOUR AND TRACK THREE BE WOVEN INTO THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND BE DEALT WITH AS ONE UNIT.

EVERYTHING SOUTH OF SPRING CREEK, THAT'S COMPLETELY YOUR DECISION.

THEY'RE BOTH EDMOND PROPERTIES.

ALL OF THESE ARE EDMOND PROPERTIES TODAY.

IT WOULD JUST BE WHETHER HOW THEY ARE MANAGED AND WHETHER THEY'RE PUT INTO CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR NOT.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT SOME EASEMENT HIGHLIGHTS.

YOU KNOW, THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS ESSENTIALLY THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.

THE RULES THE PURPOSE, PERPETUALLY, CONTRACTUALLY DESIGNATE THE LAND AS MINIMALLY DEVELOPED NATURAL AREA.

THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE IS.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UNIQUE, UM, PROHIBITED USES THAT WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

WE MAINTAINED, AND I WOULD SAY THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND DOGS, BUT WE DID WANNA MAINTAIN DOGS WERE OKAY, PROVIDED THEIR LEASE.

NO DRONES.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT NO BICYCLES.

WE ARE PROPOSING NO BICYCLES ON THE 22 ACRES, NO HUNTING OR TAKING WILDLIFE, NO PICNICKING.

IF YOU WANNA GO ON A PICNIC, FANTASTIC.

WE SUPPORT THAT.

GO TO HAER PARK.

THE NATURAL AREA IS NOT A PICNICKING AREA, NO CELL PHONE TOWERS AND NO CONSTRUCTION OR PERMANENT STRUCTURES.

AND THEN THE M MOU, WE PROPOSE

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A NAME.

WE GOT TIRED OF CALLING IT THE 22 ACRES.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE HOT, THE PRESERVE AT HAYFORD PARK, UH, DEVELOPMENT BE DONE JOINTLY BETWEEN E L C AND YOU ALL.

WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE WITHIN BUDGET.

YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BUDGET PAGE HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

SO THERE WOULD BE 1.6 MILLION IN FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MI EARMARKED AND AVAILABLE THROUGH THE PRESERVE.

THE ACCESS TRACK, UH, ACCESS TRACK THAT I JUST MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THAT WAS GONNA BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.

AND IT INCLUDES A SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE CAN BE DONE AND SHOULD BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO MEET THE GOALS OF THE, OF A MINIMALLY DEVELOPED NATURE PARK.

ONE IS ACCESS, AND OF COURSE WE PROPOSE A BRIDGE FROM WEST OF THE DUCK POND.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HAER PARK BETWEEN THE PLAYGROUND AND THE DUCK POND, A BRIDGE THAT GOES FROM HAER INTO THE PRESERVE.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU A SLIDE HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

IF THIS KIND OF TAKEN IN TOTAL, UM, THAT BRIDGE IS A MAJOR CHUNK OF CHANGE AND IT EATS UP THE MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET.

BUT IF WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE OF HAER PARK, YOU HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE BETWEEN HAER AND TO THE PRESERVE.

UH, TRAILS, A TOTAL OF ABOUT ONE MILE OF TRAILS, FOOT TRAILS OF A ONE HALF MILE OF IMPROVED SURFACE.

WERE ALL CITIZENS OF EDMOND CAN UTILIZE THE PARK AND ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN ANOTHER HALF A MILE OF MINIMALLY IMPROVED TRAILS.

THAT WOULD BE DOLT, DIRT OR MULCH, AN ONGOING RESTORATION AND PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES, THE REMOVAL OF OF NON-NATIVE VEGETATION, UH, AND THE FOSTERING OR REINTRODUCTION OF NATIVE VEGETATION TO MAINTAIN ITS NATURAL AND ORIGINAL CHARACTER.

TRASHCANS, FENCES, BOUNDARY FENCING, ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE.

AND THEN LASTLY, AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER IN CLASSROOM.

DON'T THINK ANYTHING FANCY, THINK BOY SCOUT WOODEN BENCHES, WOODEN PLATFORM, VERY RUST, UH, IS ALSO PROPOSED.

AND WITHIN THE BUDGET, HERE'S WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH, KIND OF CONCEPTUALLY.

THERE'S THE BRIDGE, THE DUCK POND, THE PLAYGROUND BRIDGE.

HERE'S THE IMPROVED TRAIL AND THE UNIMPROVED TRAIL.

SO WE IMPRO WE ARE PROPOSING THOSE, THE BRIDGE, THE AMPHITHEATER WAS ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED DOWN HERE WHERE THE OLD HOUSE USED TO BE.

IT COULD BE THOUGH, UP HERE.

UH, ONCE EQUIPMENT GETS IN THERE AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF GETS IN, THEY CAN PICK THE MOST APPROPRIATE AREA FOR THAT.

UH, SIGNAGE, OF COURSE, YOU NEED TO HAVE WAY FINDING SIGNS.

UH, AND THEN THE ACCESS TRACK DOWN HERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN.

RESTORATION ACTIVITIES WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY, UH, BECAUSE THE SOONER THE BETTER AND IT'LL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS FRANKLY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S NOT A SHORT EASY FIX.

THERE'S THE BUDGET.

UH, WE HAVE THIS AT 1.57 MILLION, UH, THAT WE THINK THERE'S ABOUT 1.6, BUT THAT SHOULD COVER IT.

AND THAT COVERS THE TRAIL, THE BRIDGE RE-VEGETATION ACTIVITIES FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

10 YEARS OF MAINTENANCE FOR EDMUND MAINTENANCE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THE PARK IS PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

UM, EVERYTHING WE BELIEVE IS NECESSARY THROUGH THE CONSULTANTS TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU.

UH, WE AT EDMOND LAND CONSERVANCY ARE YOUR SERVANTS, AND ESPECIALLY THE VOLUNTEER GROUPS FROM THE WORK GROUP THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY AND THEY WERE, I CAN'T SAY FOR FREE CUZ I HAD TO BUY A LITTLE FOOD AND BEER TO KEEP 'EM ENGAGED.

BUT IT WAS A GREAT PROCESS AND I WAS EXCITED TO BE A PART OF LEADING.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAVE AN IN AN INITIAL QUESTION.

YOU, I KNOW YOU TALKED WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND I THINK THAT WAS PRIMARILY THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNERS TO THE SOUTH, AND DID THEY BRING UP ANY CONCERNS? I I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A POPULAR AREA.

AS MINIMAL AS IT'S GOING TO BE, IT WILL BE, UM, EDMUND'S FIRST NATURE PARK OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE AT ARCADIA LAKE.

UM, ANY CONCERN FROM THEM, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING CLOSER TO THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY LINE.

I NOTICED SOME TALK ABOUT FENCING.

IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE THINKING IT WOULD BE? OR IF YOU CAN GO INTO THAT.

NO SPECIFIED CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, THE PRESERVE OR THEIR BUSINESSES LIKE PANERA PARK.

THEY'RE THERE AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, THE VICTORIA WOOD PEOPLE DIDN'T EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS TO ME ABOUT THAT EITHER.

UM, THE NEW, THE, THE

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SWIG AND THAT DEVELOPMENT, I REALLY DIDN'T GET TO VISIT WITH THEM.

SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT PROPERTY.

UM, NOW ON THE FENCING, UH, THERE ARE SOME AREAS, ESPECIALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SKILLED ENOUGH TO GO BACK, ESPECIALLY HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE TOWN HOMES AND THIS IS UNDEVELOPED.

AND THERE, THERE PROBABLY IS A NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A VISUAL BARRIER BETWEEN WHAT IS EDMOND PROPERTY AND, AND PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND SO THE FENCING WE'RE PROPOSING IS ESSENTIALLY THE SPLIT RAIL CEDAR FENCING.

THAT'S, THAT'S RUSTIC, BUT AESTHETIC.

AND SO THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME OF THAT HERE.

THERE'S A HUGE RETAINING WALL THROUGHOUT SOME OF THIS RETAINING WALLS HERE.

UH, NOW ONE THING WE DID TALK ABOUT IS THE POTENTIAL MAYBE FOR SPLIT RAIL FENCING SOMEWHERE AROUND IN, ALONG THE CREEK TO LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR KIDS GETTING IN TROUBLE.

BUT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE TRAILS ANYWAY.

ONE, WE KNOW THAT FOUR YEAR OLDS DON'T READ VERY WELL, SO THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE.

I KNOW THE FENCING AT HAER IS SPOTTY.

UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

BUT PRIMARILY WE LOOKED AT FENCING HERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE'S LOT TO DIGEST HERE BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE FUTURE OR MORE CONVERSATIONS ON, ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

CAN CAN WE TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS? THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING READY TO GO.

UM, THERE ARE SOME, I KNOW STAFF WAS WITH STAFF, WANNA TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

OH, DIDN'T SEE YOU OVER THERE.

I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU.

BRIAN OXNER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY QUALITY.

UM, STAFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AS A SUPPORT ROLE.

UM, YOU ALL ENGAGED DLC TO SEE THIS EFFORT THROUGH.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN JUST SUPPORTIVE IN THAT AND, UH, WANTED THEM TO BRING FORTH THEIR BEST PROPOSAL AND BEST PRODUCT.

UH, SO OUR NEXT STEP IS STAFF THEN TRANSITIONS TO A REVIEW AND LOOK CLOSELY AT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED.

UM, AND ALSO LISTEN TO INPUT AND DIRECTION FROM YOU COUNSEL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR OVER THE COMING PERIOD OF TIME.

AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO VET THAT, UH, FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE SO THAT WE CAN THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ALL.

RYAN, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, I THINK THERE WAS A PRESENTATION ON THE PARKS BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

SO THIS WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO PARK BOARD LAST WEEK WHEN THEY MET AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING.

AND, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE WANTING TO PREPARE FOR THE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER THAT.

AND PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MAY NOT MEET BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM A REVIEW OF IT IN ITS CURRENT DRAFT FORM.

AND THEY VOTED TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT IN PRINCIPLE WITH A COUPLE OF, UM, WITH A COUPLE OF CAVEATS.

AND THOSE TWO CAVEATS ARE THE, THE FIRST ONE THAT THEY'VE VOTED TO APPROVE IT WITH THE CAVEAT OF AMENDING ITEM 14 TO INDICATE THAT SHOULD EL C CEASE OPERATIONS THE, UM, EASEMENT ESSENTIALLY AUTOMATICALLY RE RE UH, REVERT TO THE CITY.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THEY, UM, RECOMMENDED TO NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY.

UM, AND THOSE WERE THE TWO CAVEATS, BUT WITH THAT THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN PRINCIPLE AND IN ITS CURRENT DRAFT FORM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE, IT HADN'T BEEN COMPLETELY VETTED FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE.

RYAN, ARE YOU PREPARED AS A STAFF MEMBER TO HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT TONIGHT? THE, THE ADDITIONAL LAND? THE ADDITIONAL LAND, YEAH.

UM, I, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY A REASON TO RECOMMEND THAT BE INCLUDED.

SO I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS EVENING BASED ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO RECOMMEND TO YOU ALL THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED.

UM, CERTAINLY WE AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT FROM A PARKS AND RECREATION PERSPECTIVE THAT WE WANT, WE SEE A NEED TO PROGRAM IT AND OPERATE IT VERY SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT A IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE EASEMENT.

UM, CERTAINLY THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD PROVIDES OVERSIGHT AS THEY HAVE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND, UM, THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY BE CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY, UM, NEXT TO THE PARK REGARDLESS.

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CAN I BRING UP ONE MORE ITEM? WELL, I WAS GONNA ASK, LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION.

WOULD, UH, DURING YOUR EVALUATION, WILL THERE BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT? OR IS JUST, ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE, HAVE ENGAGEMENT WITH YOU ALL? WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE ENGAGEMENT.

UM, I FEEL THE SENTIMENT IS THAT E C AND THE WAY THEY WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS PROVIDED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

OH YEAH, YEAH, FOR SURE.

UM, SO THIS KIND OF SCOPE WITH E C IN, IN THIS PROCESS REALLY HAD TO DO WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ITSELF MM-HMM.

AND, AND THE LAND SPECIFICALLY IN A PLAN FOR THAT.

IT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, OR IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IT REALLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY TOOK THE FINANCIAL PIECE OF THAT AND CREATED A BUDGET THAT DEREK JUST WENT OVER, UM, I, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE, WE ALSO NEEDED DECIDE, UM, ON THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, BUT ALSO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE DO WANNA DEDICATE THAT 1.6 MILLION OR THE OVERAGE FROM THE, FROM THE TAX COLLECTION, UM, DEDICATED TO THIS, TO THIS PROPERTY.

SO JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALREADY UNDERSTOOD OR ASSUMED OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO COVER AS WELL.

I MEAN, I THINK IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DECIDED FOR SURE.

AND I THINK EVEN IF IT'S QUOTE DEDICATED, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? RIGHT? SO DOES IT GO TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROJECTS AND THEN I GUESS THERE WAS SOME FOR MAINTENANCE OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD, OR IS THERE A GREATER PORTION THAT NEEDS TO BE RESERVED FOR KIND OF AN ENDOWMENT TYPE STRUCTURE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PRESERVE? SO I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ABOUT THAT OVERAGE AMOUNT AND THE BEST, MOST PRUDENT, APPROPRIATE WAY TO USE IT.

UM, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO'VE CONTRIBUTED TO IT, THE CITY ENGAGEMENT.

UM, AND, BUT I, I TOO FEEL LIKE, NOW, HOW DO I SAY THIS? I MEAN, I JUST WANT IT UNDERSTOOD THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY JUST ACCEPT 100% OF WHAT IS PRESENTED TO US, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE UNDER ADVISEMENT CONSIDERING STAFF INPUT MM-HMM.

AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

UM, AND WE'RE NOT VOTING TONIGHT.

, WE'RE REALLY IN THIS MORE RECEIVING MODE, SOAKING THIS IN.

UM, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP .

HE JUST TACKLED RYAN.

I WOULD SAY RYAN WAS MORE THAN JUST AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER IN THIS PROCESS.

HE WAS CRITICAL TO GETTING IT DONE.

SO I THANKS RYAN FOR ALL YOU DID.

THAT WE DID RUN OUT OF AGENDAS AND THE FOYER THERE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL ONES HAVE BEEN PRINTED.

UM, WE HAVE ALWAYS OPERATED UNDER ASSUMPTION.

THIS IS EDMOND'S LAND, THESE ARE THE, THESE, THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU, YOU ALL ARE THE CARETAKERS OF EDMOND'S REAL ASSETS AND THIS IS ONE.

SO WE DID OUR LEVEL BEST TO BRING YOU WHAT WE THOUGHT BEST ACCOMPLISHED.

THAT OBJECTIVE, WHICH INCLUDED A BUDGET TO EAT UP THE WHOLE AMOUNT THAT WAS IN EXCESS.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS RIDICULOUS, BUT WE DID WANT TO BRING YOU A BUDGET THAT, THAT THAT ATE UP THAT WHOLE 1.57 MILLION.

UM, MY FEAR ALWAYS IS WHAT SOMETHING COSTS IN MARCH WILL NOT BE WHAT IT COSTS.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A FEAR.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

UM, IT'S REALITY.

SO THERE IS A CONTINGENCY BUILT INTO THAT, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS A FEAR.

AND YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT EL C WE STAND READY TO HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN TO MAKE THAT A REALITY OR WHATEVER THE CITY OF EDMOND NEEDS IN TERMS OF CONSERVATION, PROTECTION AND ENHANCEMENT OF NATURAL PROPERTIES.

WE ARE, WE STAND READY TO SERVE CUZ WE REALLY, WE TAKE THAT MISSION TO HEART AND WE REALLY BELIEVE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

MR. MURDOCH, HOW'S THE, HOW IS THE EASEMENT ITSELF, THE EASEMENT DOCUMENT? HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT? YES.

DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION? IT'S AN EASEMENT DOCUMENT AREA IN WHICH, UH, THE COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN AND THERE MAY BE CERTAIN DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW AS A COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, AND WE WILL DO THAT IN A PUBLIC MEETING WITH PUBLIC INPUT.

BUT THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

IT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

A LOT OF GREAT INPUT, A LOT OF, I LOVE HOW YOU PUT YOUR BUDGET OUT AND, UM, YOU BUDGETED EVERYTHING YOU WANTED IN THERE.

WE DID OUR LEVEL BEST.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.

UH, FOUND OUT

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IF, IF YOU WANTED AN AGENDA AND DID NOT HAVE ONE, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, AGENDAS PRINTED NOW.

ALL

[4. City Council Nominations to Boards and Commissions:]

RIGHT, NOW, EXCUSE ME.

ON THE CITY COUNCIL NOMINATIONS TO BOARDS OF PERMISSIONS, THE FIRST ONE IS A MAYOR NOMINATION, NOMINATION AVIK ROBERTS TO THE EDMOND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST TERM TO EXPIRE JUNE, 2026.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS THE NOMINATION OF ROBERT RICE TO THE EDMOND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST TERM TO EXPIRE JUNE, 2026.

COUNSEL, THOSE ARE ONLY, THOSE ARE OUR ONLY BOARDS.

UM, COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND WE HAVE MOTION.

THOSE NOMINATIONS ARE NOW APPOINTMENTS.

NOW WE HAVE OUR GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. POINT OF YOUR INFORMATION.

MR. MAYOR, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU SIR.

WE TURN A SPEAKER UP A LITTLE BIT.

SIR, WE, WE HAVE, UH, WHEN WE TURNED IT UP TOO LOUD, IT GETS REVERB.

WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL HEARING ADV DEVICES IN THE BACK ARE OVER HERE BY A POLICE OFFICER.

IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE ONE OF THOSE.

ARE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS, UM, ITEMS LISTED ON THE JENNIFER CENTER ARE USUALLY APPROVED AS A GROUP WITH THE PROPER MOTION FROM A COUNCIL, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

[5. General Consent Items: (Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may request discussion or separate action on any item under General Consent.)]

UH, WE HAVE CONS OF SOME OF THESE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. YEP.

ITEM

[1. Consideration of changes related to credit card transactions: A. Approval of recovery of credit card processing fees by implementing a pass-through of these fees to the customer as appropriate. B. Approval of a contract amendment with Paymentus for rate structure changes to address transaction limits and to provide more flexibility to the customer base using the city portal. (Citywide) ]

ONE.

ITEM ONE IS THE CONSIDERATION OF CHANGES RELATED TO CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS.

THIS IS GONNA BE A STAFF PRESENTATION THERE.

OVER THE LAST WHILE HAVE BEEN, UM, CHOSEN BECAUSE OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE USING.

THAT'S KATHY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN'T, COULD YOU HEAR ME BACK THERE? YES.

GOOD EVENING MAY MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, UM, COMING TO YOU TONIGHT.

WE HAVE, UM, STARTED LOOKING AT A LOT OF OUR PROCESSES ACROSS THE CITY, BUT, UM, PARTICULARLY AT OUR CREDIT CARD PROCESSORS AND JUST LOOKING OVERALL, HOW MANY WE HAVE AND, UM, THE COST THAT WE'RE PAYING AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS ON THE AGENDA IN THIS ACTUAL ITEM.

AND IT'S, UH, TO LOOK AT APPROVING, PASSING ON FEES OF OUR CREDIT CARD PROCESSING ONTO OUR CUSTOMERS.

AND IT MAY NOT BE EVERY CUSTOMER, BUT JUST IN GENERAL IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT.

AND THEN ALSO WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT WITH ONE OF OUR MAJOR PROCESSORS, WHICH IS PAYMENTUS.

AND WE HAVE A, AN UPDATED CONTRACT WHERE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF OUR COST WITH OUR BUILDING AND CODE AND OUR NEW CITY WORK SOFTWARE.

SO MOVE ON HERE.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, WE HAVE FOUR TO FIVE, WE HAD FIVE PROCESSORS.

WE'VE KIND OF STARTED LOOKING, DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD EVER GET TO ONE, BUT REALLY TRIED TO START LOOKING AT COST SAVINGS, ECONOMIES OF SCALE, JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO PROVIDE MORE VOLUME TO ONE PROCESSOR, COULD WE GET BETTER COSTING? PAYMENTUS IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR PROCESSORS AND RIGHT NOW WE PAY THEM APPROXIMATELY $799,000 A YEAR.

AND THESE ARE ALL, ALL OF THESE PAYMENTS RIGHT HERE THAT ARE SHOWN ARE PAYMENTS THAT ARE, UH, FEES THAT WE ABSORB AS A CITY.

SO A LOT OF THAT IS OUR UTILITY SERVICES.

I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

UM, SO WE HAVE PAYMENTUS 799,005 SERVE IS JUST A LEGACY SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE STILL PAYING ABOUT $62,000 A YEAR FOR THAT SERVICE.

A LOT OF THAT WILL MOVE TO PAYMENTUS WHEN WE MOVE SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT.

UH, WORLD PAY SERVES, GOLF MAINLY.

AND, UM, LET'S SEE, GOLF AND LAKE PAY ABOUT 28,000 TO THEM.

GLOBAL PAY.

I'LL GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT LATER TOO.

BUT GLOBAL PAY, WE ABOUT PAY ABOUT $1,500 A YEAR AND THAT'S BASICALLY FOR PARKS.

AND, AND OUR DCC, OUR DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER COURT IS OUR ONLY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY THAT WE ACTUALLY DO PASS ON FEES.

AND SO THEY GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 20,000 A YEAR, WHICH WE'RE NOT PAYING BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE PASSING THAT ON, BUT THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST ONE WE HAD.

AND THEN US PAYMENTS, WE ALSO USE SOME OF OUR PARTNER KIOSKS ALSO USE US, US PAYMENTS.

THAT WAS OUR SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY KIOSK AND IT'S, IT'S GONE NOW, BUT JUST KIND OF KEEP IN MIND, WE DO STILL PARTNER WITH THEM IN SOME WAY.

SO MOST OF OUR PROCESSORS

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SO TYPICALLY WE WILL BUY A SOFTWARE AND THEN THEY'LL RECOMMEND WHAT, UM, PROCESSOR THEY USE OR IMPLEMENT WITH, AND THEN BASICALLY WE PICK ONE OF THEM.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIVISION AMONG OUR DIFFERENT PROCESSORS.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING, THE, THE UTILITY SERVICE IS ABOUT 799 ALONG WITH BUILDING CODE AND PLANNING, THEN BUILDING CODE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING ALSO SPLIT SOME OF THAT FIRE SERVE SOFT.

SO COST, WHICH WAS 62,000 GOLF AND LAKE WAS ABOUT THE 28,000 AND COURT IN PARKS WAS 1500.

AND THEN THERE ARE JUST A FEW MISCELLANEOUS OTHERS.

SO ALTOGETHER WE ARE PAYING APPROXIMATELY $890,000 A YEAR.

THAT WAS BASED ON A FULL YEAR LAST YEAR, AND THAT IS MADE UP OF 787,000 THAT WE, IT'S JUST THROUGH OUR UTILITY SERVICES THAT RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO REALLY VET AND LOOK, LOOK INTO MORE BECAUSE IT'S A FLAT FEE.

IT'S NOT A PERCENTAGE FEE, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF PERSPECTIVE, OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS 860,000.

SO IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO UP.

UM, BUILDING PERMITTING, LICENSINGS ABOUT 61,000 GOLF LAKE AND THE, AND THE MAC ARE ABOUT 28,000 CEMETERIES.

ABOUT 8,000 CITY CLERK, ABOUT 3000 AND EVERYONE ELSE ABOUT 3000.

AND THAT MAKES UP THE 890,000.

SO RIGHT NOW COURT IS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT PASSES THEIR, THEIR, UH, CREDIT CARD FEES ON TO THE CUSTOMERS AND IT WAS ABOUT 20,000 IN 2021.

UH, WE REALLY DON'T TRACK THAT NOW BECAUSE IT GOES ON IT, IT IS PASSED ON.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO, WE HAVE EXTERNAL PA PARTNERS AND SO LIKE SEVEN 11, WALMART, CREST, HOMELAND, UM, ALL HAVE KIOSKS IN THEIR LOCATIONS, AND THEY, YOU CAN, THEY ACTUALLY INTEGRATE WITH ALL TYPES.

SO LIKE, IF YOU HAVE AN OKLAHOMA, YOU KNOW, BORDERLINE OKLAHOMA CITY RESIDENT AND THEY USE OG AND E E, THEY CAN PAY ALL OF THEIR BILLS THERE, BUT THEY DO PASS THE FEE ON AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S MORE OF A PARTNER.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT OTHER THAN THEY CAN PAR THEY CAN PAY OUR BILLS THERE ALSO.

BUT THAT'S AN OPTION.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR KIOSK AT SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY WAS.

IT WAS A US PAYMENTS, UH, KIOSK, BUT WE ABSORBED THE FEES.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER WAYS TO PAY.

SO IT REALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY, CUSTOMERS WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY WITH THEIR CREDIT CARDS.

WE HAVE A PORTAL THAT YOU CAN, THE CUSTOMERS CAN ENTER THEIR, UM, BANKING INFORMATION AND IT'S 20 CENTS TRANSACTION, WHETHER IT'S $20,000 OR $5, IT'S 20 CENTS A TRANSACTION.

STILL PAY BY CHECK.

OUR KIOSK ACTUALLY DO TAKE CASH, UM, ONLINE BANKING AND WE'RE NOT THERE QUITE YET.

BUT, UM, IF WE'RE ABLE TO MODIFY OUR BILLING TO HAVE A QR CODE, IT WILL, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PAY ANYWHERE, LIKE YOU GO TO CVS, ANY, ANY PLACE YOU CAN USE A CREDIT CARD, YOU COULD USE THE QR, THE QR CODE IN IT WOULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND GET IT TO OUR CUSTOMER'S ACCOUNT.

SO TONIGHT WE'RE REALLY JUST ASKING YOU TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL TO PASS SERVICE CHARGES FOR PROCESSING FEES ONTO THE CUSTOMER WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE.

SO IT MAY NOT BE, WE'D HAVE TO VET WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND REALLY LOOK AT REGULATIONS TO MAKE SURE.

ONE EXAMPLE IS FOR UTILITY SERVICES.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THERE'S A FLAT FEE, THERE ARE REGULATIONS WHERE WE CAN'T PASS THAT ALONG.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE OF A PERCENTAGE.

SO THAT'S A KIND OF A FUTURE ISSUE.

BUT WE WOULD LOOK AT EVERY, EVERY DEPARTMENT.

SO I KNOW LIKE CEMETERY HAS SOME FEES, UM, BUILDING CODE PLANNING, ENGINEERING, UTILITY SERVICES.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FEES.

WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO WITH OUR NUMBER ONE APPROVAL ITEM IS JUST TO SEE IF YOU'RE AGREEABLE OR IF YOU THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE THIS OF PASSING THE FEES ON.

UH, JUST KNOWING THAT THE SAVINGS POTENTIALLY COULD BE ABOUT $900,000.

AND THEN WE, WE REALLY, WE DID, I'D ACTUALLY TALKED TO PAYMENTS TODAY.

WE HAVE AN UPDATED CONTRACT AND BASICALLY WHAT, UM, THAT DOES IT, IT REDUCED OUR FEES QUITE A BIT JUST TO CALL THEM AND NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT USE PAYMENTS.

IT'S OUR UTILITY SERVICES, OUR ANIMAL SHELTER, AND THEN BUILDING AND PERMITTING.

AND THE VERY FIRST STEP FOR US IS REALLY JUST LOOKING AT BUILDING AND PERMITTING, AND IT'S A PERCENT, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR,

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OUR PER TRANSACTION FEE FOR ACH, WHICH IS IF THEY JUST USE YOUR BANKING INFORMATION FROM A DOLLAR PER TRANSACTION TO 20 CENTS.

SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD SAVINGS.

UH, UTILITY SERVICES WOULD BE SEPARATE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD REALLY HAVE TO VET IT AND LOOK TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO, DO.

AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER GROUPS THAT USE, WE CALL IT OUR CITY WORK SOFTWARE, ARE LIKE CEMETERY.

UM, THEY'RE A COUPLE OTHERS.

AND THOSE, THAT WAS LIKE THE $62,000 FIGURE.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPLEMENTED LATER AS WELL.

BUT IT IS ALL PART OF OUR PAYMENTUS CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.

AND AS WE COULD GET OUR SOFTWARE TO, TO ACCEPT THAT, WE COULD PASS THOSE ALONG TOO.

UM, IF WE REALLY JUST DID OUR, OUR PERMITTING AND LICENSING SOFTWARE, WHICH IS CITY WORKS, WE SHOULD SAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UM, BUILDING AND CODE ALONE, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 80,000 THIS YEAR AND, AND THEY GET PRETTY HIGH.

I GUESS THE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THERE IS WHEN WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL PERMIT, IT CAN BE AS HIGH AS 130,000 AND WE'RE PAYING TWO TO 3% ON THAT RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE JUST ABSORBING IT.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE.

AND THEN THE OTHER IS, IS ARE THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE CEMETERY AND THINGS THAT CITY CLERK DOES, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER BILLS THAT RUN THROUGH THAT SOFTWARE.

SO, UM, IF, IF YOU DO AGREE TO APPROVE THESE TWO ITEMS TONIGHT, AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THE NEW AGREEMENT, THE UPDATED AGREEMENT SIGNED, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START IMPLEMENTING THE SAVINGS FOR OUR BUILDING AND CODE OUR CITY WORK SOFTWARE.

SO, UM, SO LET ME UNDERSTAND THEN YOU WOULD COME BACK TO US WITH ANY RECOMMENDATION IF YOU WANTED TO PASS US ON TO CUSTOMERS.

WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON DOES NOT PASS THAT ON TO CUSTOMERS RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT? WELL, WHAT WE WOULD, YOU NEED TO DO BOTH REALLY, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS JUST THE ONE PAYMENTUS CONTRACT.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE TO PASS IT ON TO THE CUSTOMER FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEN ALSO THE AMENDED CONTRACT, WHICH IS THE REDUCTION IN FEES FROM PAYMENTUS FOR THE BUILDING CODE LICENSING AND PERMITTING SOFTWARE.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE? WHAT ARE OTHER, SURELY YOU LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING DURING THIS PROCESS? YES.

I MEAN THERE ARE A COUPLE.

THERE ARE, I, I KNOW WE LOOKED, THERE ARE NOT AS MANY THAT PASS ON UTILITIES.

THERE ARE SOME, SOME THAT DO, BUT YEAH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I MEAN, I KNOW I, WE LOOKED AT NORMAN, THERE WAS A, UM, I'M, I'M THINKING OF THE ONES THAT WE ACTUALLY LOOKED UP THAT PASSED ON THEIR UTILITIES BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU CAN'T.

AND WE FOUND ABOUT THREE THAT DO.

IT'S, I THINK THE, THE BIGGEST THING THAT CAUGHT OUR EYE WAS JUST THE BUILDING AND PERMITTING BEING SO HIGH AND BECAUSE IT'S A PERMIT, UH, PERCENTAGE IS A PRETTY GOOD SAVINGS.

UM, AND I KIND OF WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR ON OR JUST CONFIRM THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS TO PAY.

OH, YES, DEFINITELY CHECK.

YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO TO BRING IN A CHECK.

UM, OUR KIOSK TAKE CASH.

AND I, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS WHEN I STEPPED OUT, BUT DO WE KNOW PERCENTAGES OF HOW PEOPLE PAY ON THINGS ALL? OH, GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

UM, I MEAN, I I I'VE, I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE SOME RESTAURANTS NOW THAT ARE CHARGING FEES TO USE A CREDIT CARD.

AND, AND SO WHATEVER'S HAPPENED IN THE MARKETPLACE IS CHANGING AND I DON'T PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT IT MATTERS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD IF WE'RE GONNA CHARGE FEES TO THE CUSTOMERS FOR USING THOSE CREDIT CARDS.

SO LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE GOT 40, ABOUT $40,000 ACCOUNT ACCOUNTS THAT PAY EVERY MONTH, LIKE ON UTILITIES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, IS KIRSTEN ONE HERE FROM BUILDING? NO.

WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE? LIKE 500 RESIDENTIAL PERMITS A YEAR? PARDON? 5 53 WAS LAST YEAR.

OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL, OH, AND I, I'VE FAILED TO TELL YOU TOO, ONE OF OUR LIMITATIONS RIGHT NOW FOR BUILDING AND CODE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING IS THAT THEY CHARGE US IN $4,500 INCREMENTS.

AND SO IF YOU HAD $130,000 FEE, LIKE, UH, PERMIT MM-HMM.

, YOU HAVE TO SWIPE YOUR CARD 22 TIMES.

SO THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME A LOT LESS THAN THE CONSUMER BECAUSE MOSTLY I THINK US, THOSE OF US IN BUSINESS HAVE A CHECKBOOK, BUT THE YOUNGER PEOPLE TODAY DON'T HAVE CHECKBOOKS.

AND SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT USING IT.

AND SO ONE PART OF THIS IS A CONVENIENCE FOR ESPECIALLY OUR COMMERCIAL PERMITTING.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY DIDN'T WANNA PAY THAT FEE,

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TRUE.

IT'S WEIRD.

I KNOW, BUT THEY JUST HAVE CREDIT CARDS.

AND SO I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING WITH CREDIT CARDS ARE PROBABLY YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING WITH CREDIT CARDS AND THAT, AND THAT COULD BE, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO CHECKBOOKS ANYMORE.

WHAT ABOUT DEBIT CARDS? YOU DE THE ELDERS.

WHAT HAPPENS TO US IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, EXCUSE ME SIR.

A LOT OF MONEY.

EXCUSE ME, SIR.

SHOULD WE HOLD THE CHECK? SIR, SIR, CAN WE FINISH OUR CONVERSATION UP HERE PLEASE? SURE, SIR.

DEBIT AND CREDIT CARD BOTH HAVE THE FEE, BUT IF, IF YOU TRULY ENTER YOUR BANKING ROUTING NUMBER AND ACCOUNT NUMBER AND IT'S AN ACH, IT'S 20 CENTS.

WHETHER IT'S 130,000 OR, WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

$5.

UTILITY STILL OFFERS AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWAL.

OH YES.

BANK DRAFT.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT IS.

THE ACH PER TRANSACTION.

BUT IT'LL DO IT AUTOMATICALLY INSTEAD OF PAYING THAT.

MANUALLY PAYING THE TRANSACTION.

EACH TIME.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

ALSO, NO, AS, I DON'T KNOW.

MY OPINION IS ON THE, ON THE, THE, ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE, HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT AND IT, IT IS, IT'S FASTER TO BE ABLE TO USE THE CREDIT CARD WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A JOB GOING OR AN INSPECTION SCHEDULED QUICKLY.

UM, SO IT, I MEAN, IT, IT REALLY IS CONVENIENT.

UM, BUT I ALSO KNOW A LOT OF, A LOT OF BUILDERS USE IT FOR THE, THE CREDIT CARD POINTS TOO, AND LIKE THE, AND LIKE THE REWARDS THAT COME FROM THAT.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PERFECT ANSWER.

I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY REASONABLE PERSON WOULD ALSO THINK THAT THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND SHOULD BE EATING THAT MONEY.

UH, AS WELL THAT CAN GO TO OTHER, UH, PARK MAINTENANCE OR HOWEVER ELSE WE CHOOSE TO, UH, ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS IF THIS ENDS UP BEING EVERYTHING, HOW WE CHOOSE TO DISTRIBUTE THAT OUT.

SO I I I THINK IT'S FAIR.

THE THING IS I WHAT I LIKE, THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS YOU CAN PAY.

WE'RE JUST IN, I AGREE WITH YOU COUNCILMAN CHAPMAN.

I'VE GONE TO PLACES NOW WHERE THEY'LL EITHER TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GONNA ADD THE 4% OR 3% ONTO YOUR CHARGE, OR SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN, I'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY DIDN'T EVEN TELL ME UNTIL I RECEIVED MY RECEIPT THAT I'LL LOOK AT, THERE'S ANOTHER LINE THERE FOR THAT OPTION.

I WOULD'VE PAID CASH INSTEAD OF MM-HMM.

A CARD IF I WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT UPFRONT.

I, I KIND OF GO BOTH WAYS WITH THIS.

I AGREE.

WE SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING IT ON THE REST OF THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND TO HAVE TO PAY FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE TO USE HER CREDIT CARD.

HOWEVER, I SPOKE WITH, AND I SPOKE WITH A WOMAN TODAY WHO WAS AT A KIOSK AND, UM, SHE SAID, WELL, I'M RETIRED SO I JUST COME ON UP HERE AND DO THIS.

AND I SAID, SINCE I HAVE YOU HERE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? AND I TOLD HER THE SITUATION AND SHE SAID, WELL, EVERYBODY ELSE IS PUTTING THEIR FEES ON FOLKS.

AND I SAID, HOW ABOUT YOU WITH A FIXED INCOME? SHE SAID, WELL, US, SHE SAID, IT DOESN'T BOTHER US, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE ON A FIXED INCOME.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO DO YOUR BILLING, BUT SHE SAID, SOME FOLKS ARE JUST USED TO HAVING IT ALL.

THEY PUT IT ALL ON THEIR CREDIT CARD, SO THEY HAVE ONE BILL A MONTH.

SO IT GOES BOTH WAYS.

I HATE TO EAT INTO SOMEBODY'S FIXED INCOME BECAUSE UTILITIES ARE HARD ANYWAY.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO GO AND THINK, HOW DO YOU PUT THIS FEE THAT X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE HAVE ARE USING THAT CREDIT CARD ON EVERYBODY WHO'S NOT? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WELL, WHEN YOU ADDED UP, I THINK THE, WE'RE SAYING A MILLION DOLLARS.

IT PROBABLY WON'T BE LONG UNTIL IT, IT IS THAT, BUT THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER THAT THAT'S, THAT'S REAL MONEY.

AND WHEN I, WHEN I MENTIONED HER THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND I SAID, AND IT WILL GO TO THE CITIZENS BECAUSE IT WILL COME OUT OF THE BUDGET.

AND SHE SAID, ABSOLUTELY.

EVERYBODY ELSE IS PASSING IT ON.

AND I DON'T THINK EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT AGAIN.

YET.

WE DID SPEAK WITH THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, SO KATHY, WHAT ABOUT, HAS ARCADIA LAKE COME UP DURING THESE CONVERSATIONS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, WELL, THEY'RE PART OF THESE FEES.

THEY'RE, THEY WERE UNDER THE, UH, $28,000 ONE.

SO THEY'RE UNDER A DIFFERENT, THAT PARKS AND RIGHT.

PROCESSOR.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW, WE MAY END UP STAYING LIKE WE ARE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET IT DOWN TO ONE OR TWO.

YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY IF YOU HAVE MORE VOLUME, YOU SHOULD GET BETTER RATES.

ALL OF THAT HONED DOWN TO ONE OR TWO.

AND, UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT STARTED THE CONVERSATION.

BUT, UM, I MEAN WE IMPLEMENTED LIKE FIVE NEW SOFTWARES THIS LAST YEAR.

AND SO THEY'RE ALL BRAND NEW AND THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN PROCESSOR.

SO IT WOULD BE A WHILE BEFORE WE COULD EVER, UM, REALLY TRULY TRY TO GET

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BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO START ASKING LIKE, HEY, IF WE COULD GIVE YOU THIS MUCH VOLUME, WHAT KIND OF PRICING WOULD YOU GIVE US? AND WELL, UH, I BRING UP ARCADIA LA CUZ THERE'S A, I KNOW THERE'S A GOAL TO MOVE TO ONLINE CAMPING RESERVATIONS.

OH YEAH.

UHHUH ONLINE MM-HMM.

DAY PASS, UM, PAYMENT.

AND I THINK THAT WILL, THAT WILL REALLY MOVE THE NUMBER ON THAT.

WELL, AND YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST THROW THIS OUT, REALLY WASN'T A FEE, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING JUST EVEN AT OUR WHOLE CASH HANDLING ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY, IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO GO TO MORE, UH, ELECTRONIC MEANS TO PAY.

UH, IT'S JUST MORE SECURE.

AND, UM, ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD INCREASE YOUR VOLUME YEAH.

AND SHOULD HELP WITH THIS KIND OF THING.

IT'S JUST KIND OF A AWKWARD SUBJECT TO TALK ABOUT CUZ IT'S, IT IS.

AND, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT EVERYONE.

IS IT MORE EFFICIENT? A HUNDRED PERCENT.

HOWEVER, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO, I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR ELDERLY POPULATION AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT THEM, AND SOME OF THEM JUST DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THIS OR IT'S JUST TOO DIFFICULT.

SO, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCY.

AND CAN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO IT OR FIGURE IT OUT? YES.

BUT THERE'S STILL THAT POPULATION, SO THEY CAN'T, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE VULNERABLE TO THE EXTRA CHAR.

SO I THINK WHERE WE CAN BE A THOUGHT IS WHERE WE CAN KIND OF BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE PAYING THAT WAY AND TRY TO GET THEM THE BEST DEAL.

WHAT WOULD BE A, I I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE YOU, YOU KNOW, CALL EVERY DAY OR EVERY WEEK TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE THAT BEST DEAL.

BUT WHAT IS THE, I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT ONCE A QUARTER OR ONCE A YEAR OR WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WE CAN TELL THE CITIZENS WE'RE WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE BEST GRADE? I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW.

EASIER TO NEGOTIATE WITH ONE.

SO LIKE, MY DEPARTMENT IN FINANCE AND OUR IT DEPARTMENT HAVE A BI-WEEKLY MEETING, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE A LIST AND THIS IS ON IT.

AND SO WE TR WE KEEP UP WITH OUR PROGRESS THAT WAY.

WE HAVE A WEEKLY MEETING WITH PAYMENT MANIS.

THEY ARE OUR BIGGEST PROCESSOR.

AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE FEE, BUT THEY HAVE TO INTEGRATE.

LIKE FOR INSTANCE, OUR AMI YOU KNOW, THE METERS, THEY'RE PART OF THAT.

WELL, THEY'RE DEVELOPING A PORTAL.

THE PORTAL'S NOT READY YET, BUT WHEN THE PORTAL'S READY, IT WILL MAKE THIS EASIER TOO.

SO THERE'S, IT IS JUST ALL INTERTWINED.

SO WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS AND, AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS WITH THEM.

BUT, UM, I MEAN CERTAINLY THAT KIND OF THING, WE COULD CALL, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ACTUALLY NOW TO ALL OF THESE GROUPS.

UM, RECENTLY GOLF GOT A NEW SOFTWARE AND WE'RE STILL IMPLEMENTING THAT.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS YET ANOTHER PROCESSOR AND IT ACTUALLY WAS OUTTA THE COUNTRY.

SO WE DECIDED TO STICK WITH WORLD PAY FOR THEM, UM, RIGHT NOW JUST TO SEE IF LIKE, LIKE, LET'S JUST WAIT A MINUTE AND TRY TO NOT KEEP GOING, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE AND MORE.

AND SO WE DID TALK TO THAT GROUP.

IT WAS WORLD PAY AND UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF TRYING TO SEE WHAT ALL THEY CAN DO.

AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE, IF WE CAN LOOK AT OUR SOFTWARES WHEN WE'RE BUYING THEM NOW, AND THEN MAYBE SET OUR EXPECTATIONS AND SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOTTA INTEGRATE WITH ONE OF THESE RATHER THAN TELLING US, OH, YOU HAVE TO USE THIS WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCESSOR NOW AND YOU JUST START OVER EVERY TIME, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR FEES.

AND, AND THEY'RE, I MEAN, THEY'RE DECENTLY HIGHER.

IF YOU LOOK AT A DOLLAR VERSUS 20 CENTS NOW, THAT'S AN ACH TRANSACTION.

BUT, UM, ONE THING THAT HAPPENED WITH PAYMENTUS AND IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY FOR CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE, RAISING THAT MAXIMUM THRESHOLD THAT THEY COULD CHARGE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS RAISING THAT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO NOW THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS CAN SWIPE THEIR CARD AND IF IT'S 130, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO IT TWICE.

BUT YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE IT WILL JUST BE, THEY CAN PAY THEIR WHOLE, WHOLE PERMITTING FEE JUST RIGHT THERE.

AND IT'S DONE.

IT'S ON THE PORTAL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IN, YOU GET YOUR PERMIT AND IT'S JUST MORE, MUCH MORE AUTOMATED, WHICH IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

BUT, UM, SO THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS THAT CHANGED, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THAT PIECE, WE HAD TO LOOK AT ALL THE FEES AND THEY WERE ABLE TO COME DOWN ON OUR ACH FEE, BUT THEY DID GO UP A LITTLE BIT ON OUR PERCENT.

SO IT'S JUST A GIVE AND TAKE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING OUT OF MY DEPARTMENT THAT I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO LOOK AT COSTS OVERALL.

JUST WHERE CAN WE SAY, WHERE CAN WE COMBINE AND CONSOLIDATE? AND LIKE I SAID, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO JUST ONE OR WE JUST MAY NOT BE ABLE TO.

I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL MAKES IT

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NOW I DO KNOW OKLAHOMA CITY AND NORMAN FOR SURE, SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE SAID THEY DO HAVE LIKE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE AND, UM, .

SO, BUT I THINK IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON, ON WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HOW LONG SOMEBODY'S BEEN THERE AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT.

AND JUST THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

WE JUST HAPPENED TO START LOOKING AT IT NOW AND, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH NEW SOFTWARES, I'D JUST LIKE, AT LEAST TO KNOW, I, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT USED TO OVERSEE ALL OF THE CONTRACTS AND WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING BACK TO THAT AGAIN NOW WHERE IT'S IN ONE SPOT, WE CAN REALLY SEE ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT FEES, AT LEAST HOPEFULLY THAT THEY'RE COMPARABLE.

AND IF ONE'S LIKE WAY OUT THERE, THEN WE'LL JUST SAY, WELL NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THAT.

WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, THIS PRICE OVER HERE.

NOW SOME OF IT, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONGOING CONS, UH, CONVERSATION.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE A CASE WHERE WE COULD GO TO ONE OR TWO, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TO PAY MONEY TO HAVE 'EM IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATE IT.

SO THE SOFTWARE COMPANY.

BUT IT'D BE ONE TIME COST.

YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S GONNA SAVE YOU MONEY OVERALL OR NOT.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S, IT'S SUBSTANTIAL.

I HONESTLY HAD NO IDEA IT WAS THAT MUCH.

WELL, I KNOW, I WAS LIKE, WELL I GOT A, I THINK WE ALL DID.

I GOT A FEW EMAILS ON THIS AND, AND, AND THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

WE HAD THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO ON THE COURT AND, AND HAD SOME DISCUSSION THEN.

BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE PRIVATE WORLD, UM, I THINK MOST ARE BUILDING THESE FEES INTO JUST THEIR COST OF GOODS AND THEY CAN STORE, AND A, A PRIVATE STORE CAN CHOOSE TO CHANGE THEIR PRICE ANYTIME THEY WANT.

FOR US, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

IT MIGHT BE ONCE EVERY THREE OR FIVE YEARS MM-HMM.

AND SO IT'S JUST A DIFFERENCE.

AND, AND I RESPONDED TO, TO THE EMAILS AND JUST SAID THAT THE BEST WAY I CAN UNDERSTAND IT IS OUR BASE RATE OR BASE FEE JUST DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS NOT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO OR, OR I WOULDN'T BECAUSE THEN IF WE DO INCLUDE IT, THEN WE'RE PENALIZING THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T USING A CREDIT CARD, WHICH I THINK IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW.

IN MY MIND IT'S THE FAIREST CONCEPT TO SAY IF YOU DO WANT TO, YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.

BUT IF YOU DO WANT TO USE A CREDIT CARD, YOU JUST GOTTA, YOU JUST GOTTA PAY THE FEE.

AND, AND ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE PAYMENTUS, IT'S THE ONLY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM.

SO WE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING, ANY OTHER GROUP UNTIL WE HAD ANOTHER CONTRACT.

SO YOU WOULD SEE ALL OF THAT AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD PICK AND CHOOSE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DECIDED NOT TO DO IT FOR A CERTAIN GROUP, YOU CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT.

UM, IT'D BE AWESOME IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, ONE PROCESSOR AND IT'S JUST ALL THE SAME FEE AND WE GOT THESE REALLY LOW FEES, THAT'D BE GREAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT'S DO THAT, IT'S, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE BUILDING COMMUNITY, BECAUSE ANY OF THESE THINGS, WHEN THERE'S CHANGE AND, AND CHANGE OF COST, IT, IT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA MAKE SOME PEOPLE UNHAPPY.

AND, AND I, I GUESS IT'S JUST GONNA BE OUR JOB TO, IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD TO, TO, TO BE SURE AND COMMUNICATE THAT OTHERWISE THE, THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND ARE THIS ISN'T THE CITY MAKING MORE MONEY MM-HMM.

ON THIS.

WE ARE JUST PASSING IT, PASSING IT ALONG AND PASSING IT THROUGH AND FRANKLY NOT LOSING MONEY ON THIS ANYMORE.

AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT JUST FREES IT UP FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

SO, SO RIGHT NOW THOUGH, JUST TO KIND OF, CUZ I FEEL LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THE THING ON OUR AGENDA IS RELATING TO THIS ONE PROCESSOR.

PAYMENTUS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

PAYMENTUS.

UM, AND THERE'S A NEW CONTRACT WHICH ALLOWS FOR UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN ONE SWIPE MM-HMM.

, UM, AND GETS THE ACH CHARGE DOWN TO 20 CENTS PER TRANSACTION INSTEAD OF A DOLLAR.

AND PART OF THIS IS ALSO TO APPROVE PASSING THROUGH THE PAYMENTUS FEES, CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEES TO CUSTOMERS, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR RESIDENTIAL UTILITY CUSTOMERS, BUT IT'S BUILDING, UH, BUILDING PERMIT MM-HMM.

, UM, ENGINEERING.

IT'S BUILD IT, IT'S, IT'S OUR CITY WORK SOFTWARE AND RIGHT NOW EVERYONE THAT USE CAN YOU THROUGH THE PORTAL AT THIS TIME ON THAT.

AND SO, I MEAN, JUST TO KIND OF REIN IT BACK INTO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE SO THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T THINK ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING A PRO PROCESSING FEE ON THEIR CITY OF EDMOND BILL EACH MONTH AND, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

THE ONLY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM IS THE, IT'S THE CITY WORK SOFTWARE.

A LOT OF THE CITY CLERK'S INFORMATION RUNS THROUGH THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY WAS STARTED BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING RIGHT.

CODE PLANNING, THE, THE, THE

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DEVELOPMENT TYPE FEE.

SO APPROVING THIS CONTRACT THOUGH IS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO I THINK OUR DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO USE THE SERVICE AND WANT TO USE THEIR CREDIT CARD.

THE BACKSIDE OF IT IS, IS WE'RE GONNA PASS THOSE FEES ALONG IN THOSE CONDI IN THOSE SITUATIONS.

YOU'LL COME BACK TO US BEFORE WE'RE DOING IT FOR UNTIL ANYTHING ELSE.

AND IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO, I THINK THE AGENDA ITEM WAS WORDED SUCH THAT I WAS INITIALLY THINKING IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD PASS CREDIT CARD FEES ON WHEN APPROPRIATE, MEANING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO BRING EACH CONTRACT BACK TO, BECAUSE I THINK WE BE MORE CLEAR AS TO, I MEAN THIS MAYBE IT WOULD PROBABLY QUESTION, BUT WHEN APPROPRIATE IS AWFULLY VAGUE.

SO I NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHEN APPROPRIATE MEANS.

I DON'T LIKE THE TERMINATION.

TERMINOLOGY WHEN INAPPROPRIATE.

I, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE OKAY WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'VE MADE THE DETERMINATION, YOU'VE DONE THE ANALYSIS, THEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO US MM-HMM.

IT, I I THINK IT'S IN, I I THINK WE NEED TO TRY NOT TO MAKE THIS TOO CONFUSING.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

TO THE CITIZENS.

I WAS TRYING, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT ISN'T? BUT ANOTHER THING IS IT IS GOOD TO GIVE PLENTY OF NOTICE AND ESPECIALLY LIKE TO THE BUILDING COMMUNITY CUZ IT'S TO, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT SET UP TO CUT YOUR CHECK OR, OR HAVE YOUR ACH SET UP IN THE PORTAL, UM, AT LEAST JUST NOT MAKE IT A SURPRISE WHEN SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO PULL A PERMIT.

AND I, WE DID TALK TODAY WITH THE MENTIS GROUP AND IT'S A MINIMUM OF EIGHT WEEKS BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN OKAY, OKAY.

UM, AND SO, AND THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING THAT MIGHT BE AMBITIOUS.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO IF YOU WANNA WORD THAT JUST THIS ACTUAL PAYMENTUS IS FOR OUR PAYMENTUS PROCESSOR.

FOR OUR CITI WORKS SOFTWARE OKAY.

IS WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS FOR.

SO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AND APPROVE PASSING THOSE FEES TO THE USER.

ANY, ANY AND ANY GROUP THAT USES THE CITI WORKS SOFTWARE AND, AND I KNOW LIKE COREY'S SITTING RIGHT THERE, HE DOES A LOT OF THE CEMETERY AND UM, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ONE.

LIKE THAT'S NOT, THAT WOULDN'T BE THE INITIAL, THE VERY FIRST THING WOULD BE OUR LICENSING AND PERMITTING LICENSING AND PERMITTING IS THROUGH PAYMENTUS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, ALL OF THE CITY WORKS DEPARTMENTS FALL INTO THIS BETTER PRICING FOR BUT THE PASSING THROUGH OF FEES.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET DOWN.

IS IT ALL FEES THROUGH PAYMENTUS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE YES.

I THINK WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS THIS WHERE APPROPRIATE THING IS REALLY OKAY.

IS PAYMENTUS IN THE, IF THERE WERE TO BE A MOTION, WOULD IT BE PAYMENTUS OR WOULD IT BE CITI WORKS, I PASSING CREDIT CARD FEES ON THROUGH THE CITI WORKS SOFTWARE, WHICH IS ALSO PAYMENTUS IS THE PROCESSOR FOR THAT WHOLE SOFTWARE.

PAYMENTUS IS ON THE CONTRACT, CORRECT.

I'M SORRY, PERMITLESS IS ON THE CONTRACT.

THEY'RE THAT, THAT WE ARE NEGOTIATING.

YES, YES.

SO THAT'S, AND SO THAT PRICING WOULD APPLY TO ANYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH OUR CITY WORKS SOFTWARE AND IT IT, BUT MAINLY IT'S, IT'S, I'M JUST THINKING THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW WHAT CITY WORKS PO SOFTWARE.

AND SO I JUST, JUST WANNA HAVE CLARITY.

I PROBABLY DIDN'T PUT THAT IN HERE.

UM, YEAH, CUZ IT'S REALLY, IT'S IT'S BUILDING CODE PLANNING, ENGINEERING, CEMETERY, AND THEN LIKE CHICKEN PERMITS.

SO WELL SEEK THAT KIND OF THING.

I THOUGHT A MINUTE AGO YOU SAID THAT CEMETERY, WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M JUST GETTING KIND OF, WELL IT'S CITY WORK SOFTWARE.

THE CEMETERY FLOWS THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU DO WANNA LIMIT IT TO BUILDING AND CODE, WE CAN CERTAINLY SAY IT THAT WAY.

BUT ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS USE THAT SOFTWARE.

SOFTWARE AND THIS PRICING WOULD APPLY TO ALL THAT SOFTWARE.

WOULD IT, IT, IS IT A HUGE PAIN TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER NO.

AGENDA TITLE? OH NO.

IS WHEN YOU, WE ASKED AN AGENDA TITLE.

IS IT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT THE, THE VERBIAGE WOULD BE MM-HMM.

OR REALLY TRYING TO GET THE CLARITY, I THINK OF EXACTLY A, B AND C D THIS IS WHAT IS GONNA BE COVERED UNDER, IF WE GO, WE USE CITY WORKS OR PUBLIC WORKS PERMIT THIS, WHATEVER TITLE WE'RE USING, WHAT ALL IS GONNA BE COVERED SO THAT WHEN WE TALK TO THE CITIZENS, WE CAN SAY THAT THESE THREE THINGS OVER HERE ARE BEING AFFECTED.

NOW THESE 10 THINGS OVER HERE IS NOT BEING AFFECTED.

CAN I, CAN I, IS PART BECAUSE WE NEED TO APPROVE A NEW CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S BETTER PRICING, BETTER THINGS.

IS PART OF THAT CONTRACT PASSING THE FEES THROUGH TO THE USERS OR NOT? ARE THOSE TWO TOTALLY SEP? OKAY.

WELL, YES.

I MEAN THEY, WE NEED THEIR HELP TO DO IT.

IT'S

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GOTTA BE BOTH ENDS.

I MEAN IF YOU WANT TO PASS THE CONTRACT TONIGHT, YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND CHANGE AND JUST SAY IT'S FOR OUR BUILDING CODE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FEES THAT WE WOULD PASS THROUGH TO THE USER.

THOSE ARE THE LARGEST, I MEAN, I'M COM WELL IF YOU YEAH, WE CAN, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

I JUST, WE JUST NEED CLARITY.

UM, SO THE CLARITY IS, IS WE'RE GONNA APPROVE, WE'RE GONNA REQUEST AN APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT FOR PAYMENTUS FOR OUR CITY WORKS PORTAL FOR ALL PROCESSES PROCESSED THROUGH THE CITY WORKS PORTAL.

THE REQUEST IS TO PASS THOSE FEES ON TO THOSE WHO VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE TO USE THEIR CREDIT CARD.

THE SECOND PART OF IT IS, IS TO INCREASE THE, THE PER TRANSACTION AMOUNT FROM 4,500 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

PER TRANSACTION.

THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS.

FUTURE, I'LL CALL IT UNWINDING A FEES SUCH AS UTILITIES WOULD BE DONE AT A FUTURE TIME, I THINK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW OFTEN DO YOU TALK TO PAY MENACE OR OTHERS IS WE'LL PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA TO CONSISTENTLY TALK TO OUR VENDORS TO CONSTANTLY WORK TO GET BETTER PRICING, ESPECIALLY AS THEIR CONTRACTS COME UP.

WE'D BE BE COMING BACK TO YOU TO DISCUSS, HERE'S A NEW CONTRACT WITH X, Y, Z, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONSIDER PASSING THOSE FEES ON TO CUSTOMERS OR WOULD YOU RATHER HOLD OFF ON THAT? RIGHT.

MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M JUST KIND OF RESPONDING TO KATHY'S CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, THE FEES THAT ARE CHARGED BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE DO CITY WORKS.

SO IF WE HOLISTICALLY SAY ALL OF CITY WORKS IS GOING TO BE PASSED THROUGH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FEES.

SO THINK, UH, THE VARIOUS PERMITS AND LICENSES THAT WE ISSUE, INCLUDING SOLICITORS LICENSE, CHICKEN PERMITS, NON-HUMAN PRIMATE, UH, OWNERSHIP PERMITS, UM, VICIOUS ANIMALS, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN.

THAT'S THE, THE SMALL DOLLAR PERMITS AND LICENSES THAT ARE ISSUED BY OUR OFFICE.

SO THAT, THAT'S MAINLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS.

AND THEN THE OTHER, THE MAIN PLAYER HERE WOULD BE, UH, OPENING AND CLOSING AS WELL AS THE SE UH, THE, THE PURCHASE OF BURIAL PLOTS AT GRAYSON CEMETERY, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE, UH, A CREDIT CARD FOR MM-HMM.

UM, SO TALKING TO JAMIE, UH, THE CEMETERY MANAGER, IT DOES APPEAR, THAT SEEMS TO BE CREDIT CARDS ARE NOT USED AS OFTEN AT THE CEMETERY.

SO THERE WOULD BE SOME USERS OF THAT AFFECTS, BUT IT'S NOT A HUGE ISSUE.

SO, UM, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IS SUPPORTIVE OF PASSING FEES ON GENERALLY BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE, UH, ABLE TO USE OTHER METHODS OF PAYMENT MM-HMM.

, UH, VERSUS CREDIT CARDS.

SO, SO ONE FINAL TWO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTION IS, UM, YOU'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE IMPROVE OUR PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, FOR JUST IN THIS INSTANCE OF OUR PERMITS FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL JUST SAY THAT FOR THAT SAVINGS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, LITERALLY THAT COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL POSITION THAT WOULD WORK TO RIGHT.

IMPROVE OUR TURNAROUND TIMES ON PERMITTING INSPECTIONS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO YEAH, THESE ARE REAL DOLLARS THAT, THAT INSTEAD OF THE REST OF THE CITIZENS SUBSIDIZING MM-HMM.

A CITIZEN'S CHOICE TO USE A CREDIT CARD.

I THINK CHOICE OF THE CITIZEN WHO USE THE CREDIT CARD SHOULD PAY THE FULL COST VERSUS ASKING OTHER CITIZENS TO, CAUSE ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE'RE SUBSIDIZING YOUR ABILITY TO USE A CREDIT CARD RIGHT NOW.

AND ALL OF THOSE GO THROUGH CITY WORKS.

SO THEY ALL USE PAYMENTUS AS THE PROCESSOR.

AND I AM SO FINE WITH PASSING ALL THOSE FEES.

I'M SORRY, IT WASN'T MORE CLEAR, HUH? I'M SORRY.

IT WASN'T MORE CLEAR.

THE MAJOR, MAJOR PORTION IS OUR BUILDING, OUR LICENSING AND PERMITTING.

AND LICENSING TENDS TO FALL INTO CITY CLERK AS WELL.

I MEAN THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.

BUILDING PLANNING AND CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND CODE.

DID I, ENGINEERING, ENGINEERING, CEMETERY AND ENGINEER.

ENGINEERING, BUILDING PLANNING, ENGINEERING, CITY CLERK'S, OFFICE AND CEMETERY.

AND CODE.

WHICH IS THROUGH CITY CLERKS.

ALONG WITH THE CHICKENS.

, MY GOSH, I I, I DO WANT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK WHO WE DID HAVE A COMMENT.

UH, SPEAKING FOR ELDERS, COME, I'M SIR, WALK UP FOLKS ONLINE.

CAN'T HEAR IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING INTO THE WHITE.

WELL THIS NAME WORKS BY THE WAY.

OH, GOOD.

, TWO OF 'EM DIDN'T, BUT THAT ONE WORKED.

THIRD ONE.

GOT IT.

TO GO TO FOOD CUZ SEE THESE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOOD WE HAVE TO KIND OF MESS WITH.

LEMME GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE FROM ELDERS.

GUYS.

60% OF AMERICANS ARE ON FIXED INCOME, 60% ARE BELI, PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.

SO THAT MEANS FOR ELDERS, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF US.

NO VETERANS.

SO YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND, WHEN WE GET THAT CHECK, WE PUT THAT UP THERE AND THEN WE GOTTA TAKE, SUBTRACT ALL OF THE MAJOR BILLS, YOU KNOW, YOUR GAS, YOUR APARTMENT, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE

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SO YOU GOT FOOD AND ALL THAT.

AND THEN THE, THE POINT IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU MAKE US GO TO A CREDIT CARD, SEE WE DON'T LIKE TO USE CREDIT CARDS.

MOST FOLKS MEAN A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE 'EM.

YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LIVING, LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, THEN YOU PAY OFF THESE AND YOU PAY OFF YOUR WATER BILL AND IT COMES BACK ON THE OH, YOUR LATE FEES THAT KILLS US, SIR.

WE ONLY HAD EVERYTHING SET UP.

WE'RE NOT GOING, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FORCING ANYONE TO GO TO CREDIT CARDS.

NO, BROTHER, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT YOU ALL COME, ALL OF THE MILLENNIALS, ALL YOU BETTER LOOK AT THE ELDERS, UH, ON A FIXED INCOME ROUND HERE.

AND YOU GOTTA CONSIDER THEM EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU START MAKING DECISIONS BECAUSE EVERY PENNY YOU TAKE OUT FOR FEES AND ALL THAT, IT HURTS US.

IT HURTS US.

SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT.

AND HERE'S THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING.

THE GOVERNMENT JUST PUT 300 BILLION TO, TO, UH, BAIL OUT BANKS.

THAT'S PRINTED MONEY.

BROTHERS, SISTERS PRINT MONEY, THAT MEANS INFLATION HAS TO GO UP.

SO GUESS WHAT? THAT AFFECTS US.

SO AGAIN, REMEMBER US PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT WAS A LOT OF OUR POINT IS BEING VERY MINDFUL OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT PART OF OUR POPULATION.

AND THESE FEE INCREASES ARE NOT ABOUT THAT.

AND FRANKLY, HAVING PEOPLE USING THIS SERVICE PAY FOR THAT SERVICE HELPS KEEP OTHER COSTS DOWN FOR FOLKS.

SO COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE A, DO WE NEED TO WORD THAT DIFFERENTLY OR IS THE WORDING ALL RIGHT, MR. MADAM, WHAT WAS, IS THAT WORDING ALL RIGHT.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE SPECIFIED TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

I THINK WE'RE ONLY GONNA TAKE ACTION WITH REGARD TO ITEM ONE B.

I'M THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE WANNA SPECIFY TO CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS, BUT MM-HMM.

, WELL, PART OF THE PASSING THROUGH THE, THE FEE CAN IT BE INCORPORATED INTO B AS PART OF THAT CONTRACT? I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S B THE 4,500 TO A HUNDRED.

SO IT IS SEPARATE.

YEAH, SEPARATE.

AND A IS A, IS THE PASSING A IS THE PASSING ON, AND B IS THIS IS THIS AMOUNT.

SO THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT CORRECT.

WHAT MR. RIGBY SAID EARLIER, , CAN WE, CAN WE APPROVE THAT YOUR WORDING? , CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN? OKAY.

SO THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO, TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF PASSING CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEES RELATED TO THIS CONTRACT WITH PAIS FOR CITY WORKS PORTAL USERS, USERS AND SECOND APPROVING THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH PAYMENT FLOW RATE STRUCTURE CHANGE TO ALLOW THE TRANSACTION INCREASE FROM 4,500 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND OTHER, I MEAN THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN THE MM-HMM.

, A C HC AND OTHER THINGS.

SO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED CONTRACT AND PASS THROUGH THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CONTRACT TO THE USERS.

WELL, IT'S ONLY RELATED TO THOSE, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE USING CITY WORKS AND YOU SPECIFIED BUILDING, YOU SPECIFIED PLANNING, YOU SPECIFIED ENGINEERING, YOU SPECIFIED CITY CLERK ONLY THOSE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO, I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO, UH, SPECIFICALLY ALSO LIST CEMETERY AS IT IS CONSIDERED PART OF THE PARKS FUND, NOT THE CITY CLERK'S FUND.

ALSO SEPARATE FROM THE CEMETERY .

I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.

WE'RE SAYING IT IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.

WELL WE STILL NEED A MOTION.

DO I HAVE TO WORD IT AGAIN? OR I SAY I MAKE A MOTION , I WOULD RATHER ONE COME BACK, BUT IN THE WORDING I WILL, BUT I'M, I'M, SO THAT IS, I'M, I'M READY TO GO ALONG.

I I'M GONNA JUST, I I I WOULD RATHER AN, AN ORGANIZED AGENDA THEN, THEN CAN WE JUST PUT THAT WORDING ON THE NEXT AGENDA THEN LIKE THAT? IS THERE ANY IMPACT TO OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH PERUS ON THIS TO WAIT TO THE, TO WAIT TWO WEEKS OR IS IT THREE? I DON'T THINK SO.

IF YOU WANNA JUST APPROVE THE CONTRACT ONLY AND NOT PASS 'EM ON RIGHT NOW, I CAN GET IT MOVING AT LEAST.

BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE IMPACT FOR THE IS YOU'RE JUST MOVING BACK THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE.

IF IT'S EIGHT WEEKS, IT WOULD BE EIGHT WEEKS FROM THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND APPROVAL OF THAT.

AND THAT DELAYS THE SAVING OF THOSE FUNDS.

I MEAN WE COULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IT THAT FAST.

BUT, UM,

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SO I, I THINK I CAN MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM ONE.

A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE APPROVAL OF RECOVERY OF CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEES BY IMPLEMENTING A PASS THROUGH OF THESE FEES, UH, TO THE CUSTOMER THAT IS USING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, CITY CLERK'S, OFFICE, AND OR CEMETERY.

THAT'S ONE A, THE MOTION TO PASS.

UH, ITEM ONE B, MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH PAYMENTUS FOR RATE STRUCTURE CHANGES TO ADDRESS TRANSACTIONAL LIMITS AND TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO THE CUSTOMER BASE USING THE, UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS AGAIN.

PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUILDING DEPARTMENT, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE OR CEMETERY.

SECOND THERE.

MOTION SECOND.

OKAY, THAT HAPPENS.

PASS.

NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE AMBULATORY SERVICES FUND FOR ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY FROM THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AUTHORITY E M S A FOR $143,242.

[2. Approval of Supplemental Appropriation for the Ambulatory Services Fund for an Additional Subsidy from the Emergency Medical Services Authority (EMSA); $143,242.00. (Citywide). ]

THAT'S, THAT'S ME.

IF YOU WANT A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS, I HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL.

SIR.

SIR, WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION FIRST AND THEN I OPEN IT UP FOR, BUT I, I'M JUST TRYING TO TRY TO TELL YOU FROM THE ELDER'S PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN'T READ THIS THING.

IT'S NOT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.

SO LET ME EXPLAIN TO PLEASE, SIR, THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

GO AHEAD SIR.

READY? SO THIS IS RELATED TO AN ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR M S A, WHICH PROVIDES OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.

THEY'VE DONE IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH US DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CALL VOLUMES.

APPROACHING 10% INCREASE IS THE AMOUNT OF CALL VOLUMES SHORTAGE OF STAFFING WHERE THEY HAD TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL CONTRACT STAFFING VERSUS REGULAR FULL-TIME STAFFING.

THAT ADDITIONAL COST IS PASSED ON TO THE MEMBERS WITHIN THE M S A, UM, MEMBERSHIP OF WHICH WE ARE, WE ARE A NON BENEFICIARY CITY VERSUS OKLAHOMA CITY, TULSA OR BENEFICIARY CITIES.

WE DO NOT HAVE A SAY IN THE, IN NEGOTIATIONS OF THE, OF THAT CONTRACT.

WE VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE TO BECOME A MEMBER OF EM.

S A, UH, BUT THESE ARE SIMPLY PASS ALONG COSTS.

IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO APPROVE THIS, UH, THEN WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO TALK TO E EM EMSA ABOUT DO WE REMAIN IN EMS A OR NOT? UM, OR CONTINUE ON.

OUR CURRENT CONTRACT RUNS THE END OF JUNE 30TH.

UM, SO THIS IS ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT ARE SIMPLY PASSED ON TO US.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, OKLAHOMA CITY IS GONNA PAY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS MORE FOR THIS LAST, UM, SIX MONTHS OF THE CONTRACT YEAR.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DOES THIS, DOES THIS PROVIDE, UH, IN A, IN A CONTRACT OR CONTRACTUALLY, DOES THIS PROVIDE, UM, OR PROMISE ANY ADDITIONAL ATTENTION OR SERVICE TO EDMOND? IT DOES NOT.

IT CONTAIN, IT CONTINUES, UM, WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT SAYS THE STIPULATION THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HIT A CERTAIN PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.

UH, I'LL JUST, IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, THEY HAVE NOT HIT THAT, THAT FOR APPROACHING THREE YEARS.

UM, PART OF THE EFFORT THAT IT, THAT INSTITUTE THIS ADDITIONAL COST IS BECAUSE THEY WERE SO SHORT STAFFED CO UH, AND THEN COMPOUNDED BY THE INCREASED CALL VOLUME WAS THEY HAD TO MAKE A DECISION, GO OUT AND HIRE CONTRACT LABOR TO FILL THE NEED.

UH, THAT CONTRACT LABOR HAS COME IN AND PROVIDE SUPPORT AND ALLOWED US TO INCREASE TO OUR CURRENT RATE IS A 70% ROUGHLY, UM, PERFORMANCE, UH, WHERE THE CONTRACT STIPULATES THEY SHOULD BE AT 90, BUT PRIOR TO THAT THEY WERE LY LOWER.

SO THE CONTRACT LABOR HAS HELPED SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT DOING SO IS A SIGNIFICANT HIGHER COST THAN IF IT WERE CON UH, REGULAR EMPLOYEES.

BUT CUZ OF THE TRIAGE NATURE OF TO GET SERVICE BACK UP TO A REASONABLE LEVEL, THE EMM S A BOARD AND AND LEADERSHIP SAID WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO TAKE ON THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS.

UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEANS IT'S PASSED ON TO THE, TO THE MEMBERS OF THE, OF EMM S A IN THE WESTERN DIVISION.

I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S WESTERN DIVISION, WHICH IS OKLAHOMA CITY METRO AREA, NOT THE TULSA AREA.

WESTERN DIVISION NEEDS TO APPROVE THIS OR IS IT ON A CASE? IS IT AN INDIVIDUAL? INDIVIDUAL? IT JUST, IF IF WE APPROVE IT, GREAT, WE JUST PAY THE ADDITIONAL.

THEY HAVE NOT SEEN AS GREAT OF IMPACT.

IS THIS A, A MAJORITY OF

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IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, THEN THE QUESTION'S GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE IS HOW DO WE ABSORB THAT COST THAT'S NOT COVERED BY THE REQUISITE ORGANIZATION.

IF, IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, DO THEY CONTINUE, CONTINUE SERVICE UNDER CONTRACT? THEY WOULD, BUT THERE'D BE MUCH DISCUSSION WITH US ABOUT WHAT'S THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE WITH US.

IF, IF THE NEW COST OF PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF SERVICES THIS MUCH, BUT THE CITY'S NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, THEN THAT REALLY BECOMES A QUESTION OF IS THERE CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP? SO THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, IS IT THOUGHT OF FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR THE REMAINDER? IT'S REMAINDER OF JUNE 30TH.

REMAINDER OF WHAT? THIS, THIS YEAR, THIS JUNE 30TH, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONTRACT PERIOD.

, YOU'RE DOING AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.

THIS JUST JUST GETS US THROUGH THE END OF THE CONTRACT.

, THIS IS BECAUSE THE EXTRAORDINARY OF A, OF A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN CALL VOLUME AND THEN HAVING TO BRING ON CONTRACT LABOR.

THE GOAL IS EEM.

S A GETS BACK TO A INTERNAL, UH, FTE OR FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS VERSUS HAVING TO USE CONTRACT.

THEY WERE CONTRACT LABOR WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN VERSUS IF WE HAD IN-HOUSE PERSONNEL, THE GOAL IS TO HIRE MORE AND MORE IN-HOUSE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE CONTRACT.

CONTRACT.

AND HOPE IS, THESE COSTS WOULD FALL BACK TO THE, TO, I'LL CALL IT THE FREE, UM, LEVELS.

MY GUESS IS IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS, THEN WE BETTER, WE BETTER FIND ANOTHER OPTION.

AND I MEAN, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, KNOW MY THOUGHTS.

BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT MM-HMM.

, UM, AND WE, WE HAVE A SERVICE TO PROVIDE TODAY AND WE NEED TO, IF, IF THIS IS A, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT AND DURING IT, THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

I, I THINK, UM, I DON'T, IT'S IT'S ONE, YEAH.

IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, HEY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE NOT GONNA CONTINUE TO MOWING CONTRACT, RIGHT? YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA MOW EVERY WEEK, WE'RE GONNA MOW EVERY MONTH FOR AMBULANCE SERVICE.

YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S CONTINUITY, THERE'S NO DROP IN SERVICE.

SO WHAT IF OKLAHOMA CITY DOESN'T DO IT AND THERE'RE A, IT'S A LOT.

ALL ALL INDICATION IS THE OTHER MEMBERS WILL BE PAYING THEIR, BECAUSE REALITY IS IF YOU DON'T, THEN IT SERIOUSLY, WHAT'S THE VIABILITY OF ENSA OVERALL, RIGHT? UM, SO WHAT YOU WOULD SAY IS THE OTHER CITIES, WOULD WE HAVE TO BEAR THOSE 143,000 AT EVAN, WHAT'S WILLING TO PAY? AND I UNDERSTAND IT AND I APPRECIATE THEIR, THEIR EFFORTS TO, TO BEEF UP, SO TO SPEAK.

AND, AND IF WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT, I THINK WE SHOULD DO OUR PART WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT.

IT, I SERVE ON THE BOARD AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE THAT SERVICE LEVEL.

UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

IS WHAT THE COST IS NOW, AND THEN WE'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHANGE ORDERS ARE CUZ IT, IT KIND OF MAKES US A WORRIED.

SO WE NEED, WE NEED PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CONVERSATION UP HERE ON A COUNCIL ON HOW TO APPROVE.

UH, YES WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT, BUT, UH, THE FUTURE, UH, THEY HAVEN'T MET IT IN A, A NUMBER OF YEARS AND UH, WE DO KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PROVIDERS OUT THERE THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, OKAY.

I'M SORRY TO SIT NOW.

THANKS SIR.

THE REASON I'LL COME UP HERE GUYS, CAUSE WE'VE GOT THE, UH, WE HAVE A GROUP OF KIDS TOGETHER, OLDER FOLKS GET TOGETHER AND GO OVER YOUR AGENDA AND WHAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND A FEW THINGS.

SO I'M JUST STANDING UP HERE TO ENSURE THAT.

SO YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND STUFF.

YOU'VE GOT ITEM THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE HERE, SIR, YOU, YOU JUST NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE CURRENT ONE.

NUMBER TWO, EMSA.

WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH, SIR, IS, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO SIT DOWN THERE AND WHEN IT COMES UP I GOTTA RAISE MY HAND AGAIN.

I'M JUST WARNING YOU NOW I CAN TELL YOU THOSE THREE AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY AND YOU'LL BE GOOD TO GO.

SEE, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU PUT A CHANGE ORDER IN ON ANY OF YOUR ITEMS, THAT ALERTS US.

SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S WAS THE INITIAL COST.

LET'S JUST TAKE AN EXAMPLE.

THE GOLF COURSE, OKAY? RIGHT NOW IT'S AROUND 21 MILLION.

AND UH, SO THE PROBLEM HERE IS WHEN YOU SAY CHANGE ORDER TWO TO, UH, THE, THE GOLF COURSE OR ANYTHING ELSE, WELL, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE INITIAL COST AND WE WANNA SEE WHAT ALL THE ADDITIONS ARE SO WE KNOW REALLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

CUZ RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVE NO IDEA UNLESS YOU GO BACK THROUGH ALL OF THE AGENDAS.

SO IT'S MUCH EASIER WHEN YOU PUT THE AGENDA OUT.

BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT, SAY THIS IS WHAT THE COST IS, THIS IS ALL THE ADD-ONS, THIS

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WHAT ABOUT THAT INITIAL CONTRACT FOR THAT? WE GOT IT OFF THAT WRONG BY 2 MILLION, 3 MILLION, 4 MILLION.

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE STORY HERE? I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THIS IS A CONCERN FOR US.

NOW THE OTHER ONE IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS ONE.

GET THIS ONE NOW.

OKAY SIR, SIR, AS I SAID, WE WE'RE ON ITEM.

YES SIR.

OKAY, I'LL ASK YOU SIR, WHAT IS A SATELLITE REFUSE COLLECTION BIDS? I SIR, WITH TIPPER STUFF.

WHAT IS THAT? I AM NOT ON THAT ITEM YET, SIR.

WELL I'M JUST MAKING THE POINT WHEN YOU ASK US A LOOK AT IT AND APPROVE IT, SEE WHAT IT NEEDS TO SHOW A PICTURE.

WHAT IS A THANK YOU SIR.

SIR? SATELLITE REFUGE COLLECTION BIDS WITH TIPPER UNIT.

WHAT IS THAT, SIR? SO WE DON'T KNOW MADE MY POINT.

COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM FIVE? A TWO.

MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION.

BEEN APPROVED.

NEXT IS A APPROVAL OF, OF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, SIR, OF FOUR ANTICIPATED INCREASED LODGING TAX REVENUES VISIT EDMOND FOR $150,000.

[3. Approval of Supplemental Appropriation for anticipated increased lodging tax revenues (Visit Edmond); $150,000.00. (Citywide)]

THE NEXT IS APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR UTIL UTILITY POLLS REPLACEMENT AND RELOCATION FOR THE DANFORTH KELLY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS 776,780,000 7 87.

STEVE'S GOING TAKE A MINUTE AND TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WELL YOU OKAY.

UPDATE ON THE PROJECT STATUS ON THIS, ON THIS ITEM.

SO, UH, AS YOU'ALL AWARE EVERY YEAR, UM, THE INTERSECTION OF DAN FOURTH AND KELLY IS EITHER ONE OR TWO ON THE NUMBER OF COLLISIONS, UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION.

SO WE HAVE, UH, IMPROVEMENT PLANS IN PLACE TO, UH, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AND TRY TO GET TO OUR VISION ZERO GOALS.

UM, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY PROJECT WON'T START FOR ABOUT ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF IN THE FALL OF 2024.

UM, WE HAVE SOME RATHER LARGE OG E TRANSMISSION POLES THAT BRING POWER TO ADMIN ELECTRIC ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF DANFORTH THAT NEED TO BE RELOCATED.

UM, WE'VE ANTICIPATED A YEAR, UH, UH, FOR ON THEM TO ORDER THEIR POLLS AND RECEIVE THEM.

UM, SO THIS ITEM WAS BUDGETED FOR NEXT FISCAL FISCAL YEAR.

SO THEIR POLLS CAME IN EARLY.

UH, THEY CAN ONLY SHUT DOWN THOSE, UH, TRANSMISSION POWER POWER LINES ON THE SHOULDER SEASON.

SO THREE WEEKS IN THE SPRING AND THREE WEEKS IN THE FALL THAT SPRING.

THREE WEEKS STARTED TODAY.

AND SO IF YOU WERE OUT ON DANFORTH TODAY, YOU SAW THEIR CREWS ASSEMBLING THE POLES AND UH, GETTING READY TO RELOCATE THEM.

SO THEY SHOULD BE DONE WITH THOSE RELOCATIONS IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS, UM, WHICH WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD START IN THE FALL WHEN WE START MOVING ALL THE OTHER UTILITIES FOR THE PROJECTS.

GOOD START HEAD SCHEDULING, AND WHAT? VERY GOOD.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, UH, APPROVAL OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITY FUND AGREEMENT WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.

JAMES JANE'S GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT.

JUST TO COMMENT.

UM, JEN ROBERTON SERVICES MANAGER, I ALWAYS FORGET TO DO THAT.

UM, THIS IS JUST THE LAST PART YOU ALL APPROVED ON NOVEMBER 28TH, THE APPLICATION TO THE OKLAHOMA CITY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION FOR THE ACTIVITY FUND.

UH, THEY APPROVED THAT APPLICATION IN JANUARY.

UM, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET A QUORUM OF THE VETERAN'S COMMITTEE TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT.

THIS IS THE LAST STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

BUT WE HELD A SPECIAL MEETING LAST TUESDAY AND THEY APPROVED THIS, UH, CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THE AGREEMENT AS WELL AND, UM, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM THE VETERAN'S COMMITTEE.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

FIVE B APPROVAL OF PURCHASES, APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH THE KIRKPATRICK ARCHITECT TO DESIGN THE FIRE

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ITEM SIX THROUGH 13, ARE THERE ARE NO, UH, STANDARD COMMENTS AND THERE'S, THAT'S STILL UNDER THE CONSENT ITEMS. COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THROUGH ITEMS TWO THROUGH 13? UH, THREE THROUGH 13.

I'M SORRY.

THREE THROUGH 13 MR. TO APPROVE.

UH, FIVE A THREE THROUGH 13.

WHAT ARE, WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT A TEMPORARY WHATEVER.

IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THIS SECOND.

WE'RE GONNA GET TO IT IN A MINUTE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF IT.

IT'S IN OUR PAGE.

PUT IT UP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

EXCUSE ME SIR.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

FIVE A 3 3 13.

SECOND YOU HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THOSE ITEMS UNDER APPROVED.

NOW WE HAVE, UM,

[B. Approval of Purchases:]

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STATION NUMBER SIX $5,000 INCREASE APPROVAL OF SOLE PROVIDER PURCHASES.

NUMBER TWO IS APPROVAL OF SOLE PROVIDER PURCHASES FROM LETTER LEADER LETTER TECH INC.

FOR INTE ELECTRIC INTELLECT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. ITS TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC SIGNAL EQUIPMENT $15,215.

APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO WITH RUDY CONSTRUCTION.

RYAN CAN GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE AS WELL.

ON WHICH ONE? ON THE STEVENSON PARK.

ITEM 30 OH NUMBER THREE, APPROVED OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO AT RUDY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR STEVENSON PARK AND FOURTH STREET PROJECT INCREASE $63,267 AND 38 CENTS.

IN THE AGENDA PACKET, UM, IT OUTLINES THE ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED UNDER THIS CHANGE ORDER.

UM, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF, UH, $6,549,000, $403 AND 90 CENTS A CHANGE ORDER OF 14,007 $57 AND 92 CENTS WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED UNDER THIS CONTRACT.

AND, UH, THIS UH, CHANGE ORDER OF $63,267 AND 38 CENTS WILL, UM, UH, PROVIDE THESE SIX ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ENCOUNTERED AS CONSTRUCTIONS PROGRESSED.

UH, THIS WILL ADD, UH, 12 CONTRACT DAYS TO THE CONTRACT.

SO THAT WOULD PUT, UM, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AT JUNE 6TH.

BASED ON THAT CONTRACT DATE.

WE'LL UPDATE YOU AS CONSTRUCTION PROGRESSES.

IT'S COMING TOGETHER.

THAT EIGHT TIME CHANGES.

FOUR IS APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 13 FOR TI GOLF COURT CLUBHOUSE PROJECT LIBERTY BROTHERS INC.

$7,188 AND 50 CENTS.

UH, FIVE IS THE A SEP SENTENCE OF BID FOR TWO SATELLITE REFU COLLECTION BEDS WITH TIPPER UNIT FOR $75,088.

WE GOT A PUBLIC QUESTION.

DO WE WANT TO, WE CAN HAVE BOBBY TALK ABOUT WHAT IS A TIPPER OR RYAN? IT'S A PICTURE IN THE PACKET.

WE'LL BOTH COME UP.

YEAH, WE'LL BOTH COME UP.

IT'S A TANDEM.

SO THESE ARE SATELLITE TIPPERS FOR TRASH DISPOSAL.

THEY MOUNT IN THE BACK OF A THREE QUARTER TON OR ONE TON TRUCK AND THEY'RE SEMI COMPACTED.

SO WHILE WE WOULD FIT IN THE BACK OF A TYPICAL HOPPER, THIS WILL ABSORB TWO OF THOSE.

AND THIS IS FOR THE TRASH DISPOSAL PROJECT AT THE LAKE TO INCREASE THE CAPABILITY OF PICKING UP THE TRASH, REDUCE THE MANPOWER REQUIRED, AND SPEED UP THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND ALLOW THEM TO TAKE THESE VEHICLES STRAIGHT TO THE TRANSFER STATION TO DUMP THE TRASH OUT INSTEAD OF MANUALLY TRANSFERRING, TRANSFERRING INTO ROLL OFFS OR DUMPSTERS AND THEN HAVING TO GO PICK THOSE UP AS WELL.

UH, THE ENTIRE PROJECT WILL INCREASE DOUBLE THE CAPACITY EACH OF THE TRASH STOPS OUT AT THE LAKE.

SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET BACK AROUND TO EVERYTHING IN TIME.

THESE PACK, THEY'RE SINGLE OPERATED, UH, AND THEY WILL ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE WITH ONE OR TWO PEOPLE ON THE TRUCK AND BE ABLE TO SERVICE IT IN ABOUT 30% OF THE TIME IT'S TAKING NOW.

WHICH WILL BE NICE BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY AN ACCUMULATION OF TRASH OUT THERE IN THE SUMMER.

YEAH, IT'S A REAL ISSUE.

STOP RIGHT THERE.

THIS WILL BE HELPFUL.

HOW QUICKLY WILL YOU START USING THESE? RIGHT NOW LEAD TIME IS ABOUT 120 DAYS TO GET INTO PRODUCTION.

AND SO THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER THREE, ANOTHER THREE MONTHS TO GET IT HERE.

INSTALLS INCLUDED WITH THE PURCHASE.

SO ONCE THEY'RE IN OKLAHOMA CITY, WE'LL DELIVER THE VEHICLES DOWN THERE, HAVE 'EM INSTALLED AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

THE THING ON THE BACK WILL ACTUALLY PICK THE CONTAINER UP FOR THE PERSON AND TIP IT INTO THERE SO YOU'RE NOT PICKING UP A BIG 96 GALLON CONTAINER LIKE THEY'RE DOING NOW AND TRYING TO PUT 'EM IN THERE.

ESTIMATED ANNUAL AMOUNT $450,000.

AND THE HAND, THE HOPPER WILL COMPACT IT TO ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF WHAT IT IS NORMALLY LOOSE.

GREAT.

AND SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE IT AND THEN WHEN THEY EMPTY IT, THE WHOLE THING TIPS UP, IT SLIDES OUT AND THEY MOVE BACK ON THEIR SERVICE.

SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

MM-HMM HELP WITH THAT TRASH ISSUE OUT THERE.

THANK YOU BROTHER.

NOW WE, NOW WE THANK YOU BOBBY.

NUMBER SIX, ACCEPTANCE OF BID FOR THE SALE OF THE POWER LOAD LEFT 18,000.

APPROVAL NUMBER SEVEN.

APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE FOR CONSTRUCTION ITEMS RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK.

GRANT C D B G REHABIL REHABILITATION OF RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AT 5 0 8 REYNOLDS DRIVE FOR C D B G $21,910 AID IS ACCEPTANCE OF BID AND APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.

C D B G UH, REHABILITATION OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AT 1912 CEDAR RIDGE

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ROAD FOR $59,995.

APPROVAL OF A SHORT TERM PROPERTY LEASE FOR THE CARE ATC EMPLOYEE CLINIC WITH STIRRING WEDELL LLC MONTHLY LEASE, $1,979 AND 8 CENTS.

WE'RE GONNA BE USING ARPA FUNDS ON THAT.

NUMBER 10 IS APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF PIERCE ENFORCER PUMPER FROM CONRAD FIRE EQUIPMENT UTILIZING SOURCE WELL CONTRACT NUMBER 11 30 21 DASH KC DASH ONE FOR $989,930 AND 97 CENTS.

NUMBER 11 IS APPROVAL OF ENCUMBERING FUNDS FOR THE UTILITY RELOCATION AGREEMENT WITH OG AND E FOR THE DANFORTH AND KELLY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR 776,000 7 7 80 $7.

AND THEN NUMBER 12, ACCEPTANCE OF BID AND APPROVAL OF CONTRA CONTRACT FOR THE CROSS TIMBER HEALTH CLINIC PROJECT AND RESOLUTION NUMBER SIX DASH 23 6 DASH 23 APPOINTING PURCHASING AGENT FOR ENGINEERING FOR $504,405.

WE'RE USING APER MONEY FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF BID FOR THE MOWING OF CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, INCLUDING RENEWAL OPTIONS.

COUNSEL, THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR PURCHASES FOR TODAY.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I MOVE TO APPROVE, UM, ITEMS B ONE, EXCUSE ME, ONE THROUGH 13.

YOU HAVE A MOTION.

THOSE PURCHASES BEEN APPROVED.

NOW WE HAVE THE CONSIDERATION.

[6. Consideration of Resolutions authorizing settlements with Walgreens, Walmart, CVS, Allergan and Teva- Opiod Litigations. (Citywide)]

ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENTS WITH WALGREENS, WALMART, CVS, ALLER, GUNN, AND TEVA.

OPIO LED LITIGATION MAYOR.

COUNSEL THERE IS, UH, FIVE RESOLUTIONS, UH, BEGINNING WITH CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION SEVEN DASH 23 UH, PER PARTICIPATION IN THE WALGREENS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DATED DECEMBER 9TH, 2022.

UH, THE RETAILER STATE SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT AND ADDENDUM AS IT PERTAINS TO WALGREENS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE STATE BACKSTOP AGREEMENT APPLICABLE TO WALGREENS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS RECOMMENDED BY TODD COURT AND TONY PUCKETT OF MCAFEE AND TAF LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE CITY OF EVAN, ANOTHER LITIGATING OKLAHOMA SUBDIVISIONS, INCLUDING APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION NUMBER SEVEN DASH 23 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR, THE CITY OF EDMOND TO EXECUTE THE SUBDIVISION PARTICIPATION FORM FOR THE CITY OF BB PARTICIPATION IN THE WALGREENS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

ITEM B IS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER EIGHT DASH 23, CONSIDERED APPROVAL OF PARTICIPATION IN THE WALMART SETTLEMENT, UH, AGREEMENT NOVEMBER EIGHT, 22ND, 2022.

THE RETAILER STATE SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT AND ADDENDUM AS IT PERTAINS TO THE WALMART SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE STATE BACKSTOP AGREEMENT APPLICABLE TO THE WALMART SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AS RECOMMENDED BY TODD COURT AND TONY PUCKETT, MCAFEE TAF LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE CITY OF EVAN AND OTHER LITIGATED OKLAHOMA SUBDIVISIONS INCLUDING APPROVAL RESOLUTION NUMBER EIGHT DASH 23 AND THE AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EVAN TO EXECUTE THE SUBDIVISION OF PARTICIPATION FORM FOR THE CITY OF EVIDENCE PARTICIPATION IN THE WALMART SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

ITEM C IS CONSIDERATION RESOLUTION NUMBER NINE DASH 23.

CONSIDER APPROVE PARTICIPATION IN CVS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DATED DECEMBER 9TH, 2022 AND THE RETAILER STATE SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT ADDENDUM AS IT PERTAINS TO THE CVS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE STATE BACKSTOP AGREEMENT ETHICAL TO CVS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS RECOMMENDED BY TODD COURT, TONY G PUCKETT, MCFE, TAFT LEGAL COUNSEL, CITY MOND AND OTHER LITIGATING OKLAHOMA SUBDIVISIONS INCLUDING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 99 DASH 23 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EVIDENCE TO EXECUTE THE SUBDIVISION PARTICIPATION FORM OF THE CITY OF EVIDENCE PARTICIPATION AND CVS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

ITEM D, CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION 10 DASH 23 CONSIDER APPROVAL PARTICIPATION IN ALLERGAN SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DATED IN NOVEMBER 22ND, 2022 IN THE ALLERGAN STATE SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT AND ADDENDUM IN THE ALLIGATOR STATE BACKSTOP AGREEMENT IS RECOMMENDED BY TODD COURT.

TONY PUCKETT, MCAFEE TAF LEGAL COUNSEL CITY OF EVAN AND UNDER LITIGATED OKLAHOMA SUBDIVISIONS INCLUDING APPROVAL RESOLUTION DASH 29 10 10 DASH 23 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR CITY TO EXECUTE THE SUBDIVISION OF PARTICIPATION FORM BOTH OF THE CITY OF PARTICIPATION, ALLEGER AND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

AND FINALLY, ITEM FIVE, UH, SIX E CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 1123 CONSIDERING APPROVAL, PARTICIPATION IN THE TEVA SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT DATED NOVEMBER 22ND, 22 IN THE TEVA STATE SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT ADDENDUM IN THE TEVA STATE BACKSTOP AGREEMENT IS RECOMMENDED BY TODD COURT AND TONY PUCKETT MCAFEE TAB LEGAL COUNSEL, CITY OF LITIGATING OKLAHOMA DIVISIONS INCLUDING APPROVAL RESOLUTION NUMBER 1123 AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR CITY OF HAPPEN TO EXECUTE THE DIVISION PARTICIPATION FORM FOR THE CITY OF PARTICIPATION.

INTENDANCE SETTLE VERY BRIEFLY.

UH, THE CITY, UH, ENTERED INTO REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION AGREEMENT MCAFEE AND TAFT TO FORMER CIVIL LAW FIRMS BACK AT OCTOBER OF 2018 TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF LITIGATION AGAINST CERTAIN OPIOID MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTORS AND OTHER THIRD PARTIES FOR DAMAGES AND RELIEF, UH,

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OUTTA THE CONDUCT OF THE PARTIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE MANUFACTURING, MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION OF OPIOIDS.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, UH, SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS ALREADY ENTERED INTO, UH, THESE ADDITIONAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH WALGREENS, WALMART, CVS RD, AND TEVA ARE PRESENTED TO YOU FOR APPROVAL AND AS PART OF THE OVERALL GLOBAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THESE PARTIES, UH, THIS WILL AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO THE, UH, VARIOUS DOCUMENTS TO SETTLE THESE ITEMS. UH, WITH THESE SETTLEMENTS, THE SHARING AGREEMENT DIVIDES THERA OVERALL ALLOCATION TO OKLAHOMA 75% TO THE LITIGATING SUBDIVISIONS IN 25% TO THE STATE.

SO, UM, OUR COUNCIL HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA TO COME UP WITH THESE, UH, THESE SETTLEMENTS.

AND UH, UH, THERE'S VARIOUS ESTIMATES AS TO THE RANGE THAT THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE IN THESE FIVE SETTLEMENTS.

ALL THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, WILL BE SEGREGATED, UM, AND PLACED IN AN ACCOUNT AND WILL NOT BE, UH, UH, SPENT, UH, UNTIL AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH AT LEAST 70% SPENT ON, UH, UH, FUTURE OP OPIOID REMEDIATION EFFORTS.

AND THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN THESE SETTLEMENTS.

UH, SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THESE, UH, THESE FIVE RESOLUTIONS ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PROCESS, WE'LL, WE'LL START RECEIVING PAYMENTS, UH, FROM THESE UH, ENTITIES.

TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WHAT PROGRAMS DO WE HAVE THAT WOULD MEET THAT 70%.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, WELL, WE WOULD, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY BASED UPON THE TERMS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND ADVISE THAT WE'RE OUTSIDE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, UH, THAT WE COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE PURCHASE OF NARCAN, PRODUCTS LIKE THAT THAT WE HAVE USED OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT USE IN, IN DEALING WITH PERSONS WHO ARE, UH, HAVE AN OVERDOSE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT THERE'LL BE OTHER OPP OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPED AS A RESULT OF THESE SETTLEMENTS THAT WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN.

BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH ANY RECOMMENDED EXPENDITURES.

OKAY? QUESTION.

UH, THIS IS ANOTHER CASE AND POINT FOR OUR SENIORS.

WE'VE GOT TOGETHER, WE GOT THIS AND ALL WE GOT WAS A THROUGH E AND NOBODY COULD READ THAT.

SIR, YOU, UH, MR. MCG, YOU, YOU SUMMED IT UP AT THE END AND IT WAS GREAT, BUT NOW WE UNDERSTOOD IT.

BUT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LEAD IN OR AT THE BOTTOM.

SO WE COULD HAVE GONE TO THAT CUZ WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT AND WE'RE NOT LAWYERS.

WE COULDN'T READ ANY OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK OAKLAND MEETINGS, ZACH SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT DOWN TO ABOUT A THIRD GRADE LEVEL.

NOT IN MY CASE, PROBABLY, BUT IN MY, BUT WE COULD NOT GET THROUGH THIS.

AND YOUR LAST DEAL COVERED IT ALL UP AND IT'S NOT IN THE AGENDA.

SO IT WAS SIX.

IT'S IN THE PACKET.

CITY COUNCIL.

WHERE'S THE PACKET? DON'T TELL ME, DON'T TELL ME.

GO ONLINE.

CAUSE I MIGHT AS WELL PUT A GUN TO MY HEAD IF YOU TELL ME TO GO ONLINE.

OKAY? SO THAT'S THE SAME I'M SAYING I APPRECIATE IT.

I'M TALKING TO YOU FROM, FROM AN ELDER PERSPECTIVE, ALL RIGHT? APPRECIATE IT.

SIR, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE, THE COMPLETE PACKET IS ONLINE.

SO COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THESE ITEMS? SIX A THROUGH E.

MOTION TO APPROVE SIX A THROUGH E.

SECOND WE HAVE MOTION.

THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED.

NOW WE NEED TO RECESS EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND, AND CONVENED THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.

[ <Recess Edmond City Council Meeting and Convene Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting>]

MOTION.

WE'RE IN THE E P

[7. Approval of EPWA Meeting Minutes: March 13, 2023]

W MEETING.

NEXT IS APPROVAL OF E P W A ME MEETING, MINUTES OF MARCH 13TH, 2023.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND MOTION.

WE HAVE ONE THROUGH THREE.

HOW'S THAT? THOSE MEETING MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

THEN WE HAVE OUR GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS.

[A. Consideration of Approval of Administrative Items:]

ANY COUNSEL? DO WE NEED TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS FOR YOU OR JUDGE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO COUNSEL, MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS A ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

YOU HAVE A MOTION? SECOND.

ARE APPROVAL OF PURCHASES OF ACCEPTANCE OF PROPOSAL OF REPUBLIC SERVICES RECYCLING SERVICES.

THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

[1. Acceptance of proposal with Republic Services for recycling services; $1,791,970.56. (Citywide)]

$1,791,970 56 CENTS.

BOBBY? HELLO.

GET A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS HERE ON RECYCLING AND I'M TRYING TO MOVE ON.

SO, UH, RIGHT NOW RECYCLING IS A SEPARATE DIVISION OF SOLID WASTE.

WE HAVE FIVE DIVISIONS.

UH, IT OPERATES AS

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A PASS THROUGH.

WE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF IT.

IT DOESN'T PRODUCE REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

IT SIMPLY PAYS FOR THE SERVICE.

OKAY? SO WHAT WE COLLECT IN, AS THE FEE GOES RIGHT BACK OUT TOWARD THE CONTRACTOR TO PERFORM THE SERVICE.

RIGHT NOW THE COST IS $4 AND 26 PER RESIDENCE.

THE RESIDENT IS PAYING $4.

WE'RE ABSORBING THE DIFFERENCE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE CONTRACT HAS MOVED TO THE POINT OF RENEWAL.

WE WENT BACK OUT TO BID.

WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS, BOTH OF WHICH INCLUDE GLASS INTO THE WASTE STREAM, AGAIN, INTO THE RECYCLING STREAM.

RATHER, THE PRESENT CONTRACT EXPIRES JUNE 30TH LAST YEAR.

WE'D DONE SLIGHTLY OVER 3,600 TONS OF RECYCLING IN PREVIOUS YEARS WHEN GLASS WAS ACCEPTED PRIOR, OUR TYPICAL YEARS WERE BETWEEN 51 AND 5,200 TIMES.

SO THAT'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW MUCH GLASS IS IN THE SYSTEM THAT MAKES IT THROUGH RECYCLING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO THAT'S BACK INTO THE SYSTEM.

NOW, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED IS WHY DO THEY TAKE IT OUT? WELL, THE RECYCLERS AND THE HANDLERS HAVE TO HAVE A MARKET FOR THE PRODUCT.

SO WHEN THE MARKET COLLAPSED THE LAST TIME ON THAT COMMODITY, EVERYBODY QUIT ACCEPTING GLASS AND THEY HAD NO PLACE TO TAKE IT.

SO THEY QUIT ACCEPTING IT.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT IN THE CONTRACTS.

THAT'S STANDARD IN A RECYCLING CONTRACT.

OKAY? THE REQUEST WAS OVERWHELMING FOR GLASS.

SO THE SURVEY THAT WE PUT OUT FOR RECYCLING, HERE'S THE QUICK, UH, RUN OVER OF IT.

IT SAYS, DO YOU USE THE BIWEEKLY CURB HERBICIDE RECYCLING PICKUP SERVICE? IT WAS YES OR NO.

97% SAID YES.

2% SAID NO.

THE 2% THAT SAID NO WERE THEN OUT OF THE SURVEY.

THEY DIDN'T UTILIZE THE SERVICE.

SO THEY WEREN'T GONNA HAVE ANY USEFUL INPUT FOR THE REST OF THE RESULTS.

DO YOU PLACE YOUR BLUE BIN FOR CURBSIDE RECYCLING SERVICE? EVERY BIWEEKLY PICKUP CYCLE? OVERWHELMINGLY YES.

86%, YES.

BASICALLY 14% SAID ONLY WHEN IT'S FULL.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY A MONTHLY FEE TO RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL BLUE RECYCLING BIN FOR CURBSIDE RECYCLING PICKUP SERVICE? OVERWHELMINGLY, NO.

78%, ALMOST 80% SAID NO.

THEY DID NOT WANT TO PAY A FEE AND RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL BIN THAT THE ONE BIN WAS GOOD ENOUGH.

THAT WAS SATISFACTORY FOR 'EM.

AND SO MOST PEOPLE FILL THAT ONE BIN UP EVERY TWO WEEKS.

THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE BIWEEKLY PICKUP.

PLUS IT REDUCES THE COST OF THE CONTRACT IF WE'RE GONNA RUN WEEKLY SERVICES, IT DOUBLES THE EXPENSES TO RUN THE TRUCKS AROUND AND STAFF AROUND AND ALL OF THAT.

SO THAT WAS ALL INCLUDED AS PART OF THE BID.

ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE? YES.

VERY SATISFIED, SOMEWHAT SATISFIED, AND NOT SATISFIED AT ALL.

ONLY 5% SAID NOT SATISFIED AT ALL.

SO BIDS WERE RELEASED IN FEBRUARY.

FEBRUARY.

WE GOT THE SURVEY RESULTS.

THE STAFF GOT TOGETHER, DISCUSSED THOSE TABULATED.

THE RESULTS GLASS WAS INCLUDED IN THE BID PROCESS.

UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING REPUBLIC SERVICES WITH THEIR CONTRACT THAT THEY CAME FORWARD.

THAT'S WHO WE PRESENTLY USE.

NOW, UM, THE CONTRACT COST IS 4 56 A MONTH PER RESIDENT ON THE CONTRACT.

NOW THAT IS NOT, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT ANY RATE INCREASE AT A LATER DATE, BUT TONIGHT'S TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT AND THAT'S THE CITY'S COST ON THE CONTRACT IS $4 AND 50 CENTS PER RESIDENT.

UM, A RATE INCREASE WILL BE NECESSARY, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO STRUCTURE THAT AND THAT'LL BE UP TO YOU GUYS TO DETERMINE WHEN WE PRESENT THAT AT A LATER DATE.

UM, THE RATE INCLUDES THE COST FOR THE RECYCLING DROP-OFF CENTER.

AND I WANNA BRING THAT UP FOR JUST A SECOND.

THE RECYCLING DROPOFF CENTER IS LOCATED AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

76% OF THE PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY NEVER USE THAT CENTER.

THE BULK OF THE RESIDENTS USE THE SERVICE THAT COMES TO THEIR HOUSE, RIGHT? MOST OF WHAT COMES INTO THAT RECYCLING CENTER IS FROM LOGAN COUNTY, ARE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF EDMOND.

AND WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE'VE PULLED THE ADDRESSES OFF OF HUNDREDS OF BOXES THAT GET THROWN THERE FOR RECYCLING TO LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE FROM.

WE'VE GONE OUT AND INTERVIEWED PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE THROWING AWAY AND WHERE THEY'RE FROM, WHAT THEY'RE RECYCLING, WHERE THEY'RE FROM, AND THE ILLEGAL DUMPING OUT THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE WALK INTO IN THE MORNINGS.

SO WE SEND A CREW OUT TO PICK THAT UP.

WE OFTEN FIND REFRIGERATORS, TVS, GALLONS UPON GALLONS OF PAINT THAT WE END UP EATING THE COST FOR TO DISPOSE OF AT THAT CENTER BECAUSE IT IS UNMANNED, UNSUPERVISED, AND SITTING THERE WIDE OPEN.

SO KEITH ALLUDED DURING THE WORKSHOP TO WANTING TO RELOCATE THAT AND GET IT MORE CENTRAL AND MAN IT AND BE ABLE TO EXPAND MAYBE WHAT WE OFFER OUT THERE AND GET A BIGGER FOOTPRINT.

AND THAT'S

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THE REASON FOR HIS COMMENT.

WE NEED TO STOP THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY.

WE SPEND ABOUT $85,000 A YEAR IN HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL IN MAN HOURS, CLEANING THAT SITE UP AND 163,000 A YEAR DISPOSING OR RECYCLING RATHER, THOSE CONTAINERS OUT THERE THAT ARE PUT OUT THERE ONLY 30% OF WHICH IS EDMOND CITIZENS FOR THE BEST WE CAN TELL.

THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE ADDRESS LABELS BLANKED OUT.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE FROM.

IT'S AN EASY WAY TO TRACK WHAT'S BEING PUT IN AND OUT OUT THERE.

UH, THE TOILET OVER THERE AND THE CORNER'S REALLY ATTRACTIVE TO WALK INTO.

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.

THIS MORNING WE HAD SIX MATTRESSES AND A REFRIGERATOR THROWN IN THE DUMPSTER.

SO IT'S ALWAYS A SURPRISE.

SO RECYCLING ITSELF, THE CONTRACT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT JULY ONE, THE RATE INCREASE WOULD START AT THE DATE OF THE CONTRACT.

NO EQUIPMENT CHANGE NECESSARY.

THE CITIZENS HAVE TO DO NOTHING EXCEPT CONTINUE THE SERVICE THE WAY THAT IT IS AND KNOW THAT GLASS WILL BE IN THE STREAM TO RECYCLE.

WE'LL START SENDING OUT EDU EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS IN MAY.

THE VENDOR WILL SUPPLY THOSE TO US AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR US TO SEND THOSE OUT IN UTILITY BILLS.

WE'LL UPDATE THE WEBSITES AND DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

UM, AND THEY WILL BE PLACING STICKERS ON THE CONTAINERS TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT GLASS WILL BE ACCEPTED GOING FORWARD.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE GLASS? SURE.

YOU SAID THAT THEY CAN CUT THE GLASS, SHOULD THEY LOSE THEIR MARKET FOR IT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO WHEN YOU PUT THIS OUT, YOU SAID IT HAD TO TO INCLUDE GRA GLASS.

CORRECT.

BUT THE TRUTH IS, IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE GAS GLASS.

THEY'RE CONTRACTED FOR FOUR YEARS WITH A SERVICE RIGHT NOW.

WITH A, WITH A RENEWAL IN ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

BUT WHAT IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO GLASS? WHEREAS AGAIN THEN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, THE RIGHT TO PULL IT OUT AND FIND AN ALTERNATE SUPPLIER TO PICK IT UP.

BUT THAT'S WHY HAVING ALL RECYCLING CENTER'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I NEED A BIG ENOUGH FOOTPRINT TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S MY INSURANCE POLICY RIGHT NOW.

I CANNOT PLACE GLASS OUT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE LIABLE FOR THE CLEANUP, LIABLE FOR THE DAMAGES.

AND IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY IF WOULD'VE PUT, WE PUT A RECYCLING CENTER IN, WE CAN EXPAND IT AND OFFER THE GLASS AS A SIDE SERVICE IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT A LATER DATE.

SO, SO COUNCIL MEMBER IS THE QUESTION, IF THEY WERE TO PULL GLASS MM-HMM.

, DOES THAT POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE CONTRACT COST? YES.

NO, NO.

RECYCLER WILL COME INTO THE CITY AND BID YOU A SERVICE WHERE THEY CUT THE COST IF THEY LOSE THE COMMODITIES MARKET.

SO HOW MUCH NOTICE DO THEY HAVE TO GIVE 60 DAYS BY CONTRACT? THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT IT 60 DAYS AFTER THEY RECEIVE NOTICE THAT THEY CAN'T ACCEPT IT ANY LONGER.

AND THAT GIVES US 60 DAYS TO REACT.

SO WHAT CHANGED BEFORE WHEN THEY ELIMINATED GLASS UNTIL TODAY, THERE IS A MARKET FOR GLASS NOW.

WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL GLASS RECYCLING FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA THAT THAT GLASS CAN GO TO.

RIPPLE GLASS HAS EXPANDED NATIONWIDE AND PUT TWO IN KANSAS AND TWO IN TEXAS.

SO WE HAVE SOME, SOME LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE, I WOULD FIND IT HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THEY WILL PULL GLASS AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAVE A MARKED THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.

LET ME ASK YOU, DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE NUMBERS FOR PLASTIC, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, ONE AND TWO IS FOUR ACCEPTED EVERYTHING, THREE AND UP IS NOT ACCEPTED.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE LIFE CYCLE OF THAT PLASTIC IS TOO SHORT FOR IT TO BE PROFITABLE TO RECYCLE BECAUSE OF THE RESIN MIXTURE IN IT, NUMBER ONE.

AND NUMBER TWO, IT DOESN'T MELT IN REFORM.

IT'S THE WRONG TYPE OF PLASTIC FOR THAT.

I, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO, TO HIS POINT ABOUT GLASS AND THEY CAN REMOVE IT, COULD THEY REMOVE A PLASTIC IS WHAT I'M JUST THINKING.

ONE ONES AND TWOS ARE USUALLY A TYPICALLY FAIRLY CONSISTENT VALUE COMMODITY WISE AND I CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

THEY COULD, BUT THEY HAVE A GOOD COMMODITY VALUE.

LIKE CARDBOARD.

CARDBOARD IS YOUR HIGHEST DOLLAR COMMODITY.

BUT THEY WOULD'VE TO PROVIDE US NOTICE AGAIN, AGAIN 60 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE AND GIVE US TIME TO GET AN ALTERNATIVE IN PLACE TO, TO KEEP THE SYSTEM AND SOME PROOF THAT THE COMMODITIES MARKET IS NOT AVAILABLE.

AND THEY CAN'T JUST DECIDE.

THEIR RECYCLER WOULD HAVE, THEIR CONTRACTOR WOULD'VE TO STOP ACCEPTING IT BEFORE THEY CAN TELL US THEY CAN'T ACCEPT IT.

GOT IT.

AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US WRITTEN NOTICE THAT THEIR PROCESSOR IS NO LONGER ACCEPTING IT.

SO WHEN YOU SEND OUT THE EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION, ARE WE GONNA ALSO REEDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON HOW CLEAN THE PRODUCT HAS TO BE TO GO AND RECYCLE AS BECAUSE AS IT GOES DOWN THE STREAM AND WHATEVER ANALYSIS IS DONE, IF IT'S NOT CLEAN, IT GETS, GOES INTO REGULAR REFUGE.

SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT PICTURES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, SPECIFICALLY PIZZA BOXES.

CUZ THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT CONTAMINATES THE RECYCLABLES AND PEANUT BUTTER JARS.

THEY JUST THROW THE JAR IN THERE AND THEY DON'T WASH IT OUT.

AND SO ONCE IT HAS FOOD PRODUCT ON IT, IT'S A BIOHAZARD, THE ENTIRE CONTAINER HAS TO GO TO THE LANDFILL AND WE PAY FOR THAT DISPOSAL AS PART OF THE, PART OF THE CONTRACT.

TWO WEEKS WORTH OF RECYCLING RECYCLE.

SO YEAH, THAT'S CRITICAL.

I THINK WE, WHEN WE EDUCATION THE ENTIRE CONTAINER GOES, IT'S JUST NOT THAT ITEM THAT THAT

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IT GOES OUT THE YES SIR.

NOW IS THERE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF REMOVING GRA GLASS FROM THE WASTE STREAM? YOU SEE, IT WILL LESSEN WHAT WE PAY TO THE TRANSFER STATION SLIGHTLY BECAUSE THAT TONNAGE WILL GO TO RECYCLING AND WE WON'T BE PAYING TO DISPOSE OF IT.

IT'S NOT A HUGE INCREASE, BUT IT DOES AMOUNT TO ABOUT $116,000 A YEAR AND WASTE DISPOSAL FEES WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY BASED OFF PR PAST HISTORY.

THE PREVIOUS HISTORY BEFORE THEY PULLED GLASS.

THAT'S ALL WE REALLY HAVE TO GO OFF OF.

COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MM-HMM , WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

IS THAT FOUR 60? IS THAT FOR ONE CAN OR IS IT THE WHOLE THAT'S THE CONTRACTED PRICE.

THE CITY WILL RECHARGE FOR ONE BLUE CONTAINER.

SO PER MONTH SERVICE.

SO IF YOU HAVE TWO, IT'S NINE BUCKS.

YOU, YOU ONLY GET ONE.

YOU ONLY GET ONE.

YOU ONLY GET ONE BY CONTRACT.

IT'S RECYCLING ENOUGH TRASH.

THE BLUE BIN FOR RECYCLABLE.

THE GREEN CAN TWO, NO, NO, THIS IS NOT THE GREEN CAN, THIS IS JUST THE BLUE BIN FOR RECYCLABLES.

THE GREEN CAN IS SOLID WASTE SERVICE THAT NOTHING'S CHANGING THERE.

SO THE 4 56 FOR ONE GREEN CAN IN FRONT OF BLUE, BLUE CANS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GREEN CANS AT ALL.

NO.

THANK YOU BOBBY.

THIS IS JUST RECYCLE.

WHAT'D YOU LIKE TO DO, COUNSEL? DO WELL, I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM B ONE.

PURCHASE IS CONSIDERATION, AN IMPROVE OF ENGINEERING SERVICE CONTRACT WITH KIMBERLY HORN AND ASSOCIATES FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR STORM SEWER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CAPITAL REVIEW EDITION.

AS I SECOND RIGHT ITEM B ONE OF AIR MOTION.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE THAT MS. PASS NEXT

[2. Consideration and Approval of Engineering Services Contract with Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc. for Feasibility Study for Storm Sewer improvements for the Capitol View Addition. The study area is from 9th Street to 7th Street and from University Drive to Rankin Street. $153,850.00. (Ward 1).]

[3. Approval of Sole Provider purchase of office furniture from KI, for the acquisition of desks, wall systems and miscellaneous Furniture, Fixtures & Equipment for the city departments moving to offices at North Timbers; $300,000.00 (not to exceed). (Citywide)]

THE STUDY AREA IS FROM NINTH STREET TO SEVENTH STREET AND FROM THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO RIN STREET FOR $152,850.

THEN WE HAVE APPROVAL OF SOLE PROVIDER PURCHASE OF OFFICE FURNITURE FROM KI FOR THE ACQUISITION OF DESKS, WALL SYSTEMS, AND MISCELLANEOUS FURNITURE FIXTURES IN EQUIPMENT, BETTER KNOWN AS FF AND E FOR THE CITY DEPARTMENTS MOVING TO OFFICES AT NORTH TIMBERS FOR $300,000 NOT TO EXCEED COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THESE PURCHASES OF B TWO AND THREE? MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION.

PLANNING DISCUSSION ITEM.

I MOVE TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

YOU HAVE A MOTION? SECOND.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE FOR NOW.

WE'RE BACK INTO EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING

[A. Case #Z22-00030 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. _________ for a Rezoning from “G-A” General Agriculture to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for Liberty Park, located northeast of Coltrane and Coffee Creek (Halff Associates) (Ward 2)]

THESE ARE ITEMS REQUIRE SEPARATE VOTES FOR CASE NUMBER Z 22 DASH 0 0 30 PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39 40 39 40 FOR A REZONING FROM GA GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO A P U D PUTT PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LIBERTY PARK LOCATED NORTHEAST OF COLTRANE IN COFA CREEK.

HALF ASSOCIATES IS THE APPLICANT.

IS APPLICANT HERE.

APPROVAL AT THEIR MARCH 7TH MEETING.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A P THAT WILL ALLOW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF COFFEE CREEK AT EAST OF COLTRANE.

THE SITE IS 86 ACRES AND CURRENTLY GA OR GENERAL AG IT DOES ABOUT THE CENTENNIAL IRON HORSE RANCH TO THE WEST.

UH, THE PD PROPOSES TWO TRACKS.

UH, TRACT ONE IS ALMOST 29 ACRES ON THE SOUTH, WHICH WILL CONSIST OF 2,600 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES.

AND 173 RESIDE RESIDENTIAL UNITS NOT TO EXCEED 16 UNITS PER ACRE.

TRACK TWO IS THE 57 ACRES ON THE NORTH, UH, CONSISTING OF 241 RESIDENTIAL UNITS OF VARYING TYPES NOT TO EXCEED 12 UNITS PER PER ACRE.

THE P D COMMITS TO HIGH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IN SCREENING, UH, THE ADJACENT IRON HORSE WITH A 50 FOOT TREE BUFFER.

UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IS DESIGNED TO INTEGRATE THE COMMERCIAL AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL OFFERING SEVERAL DIFFERENT LIVING OPTIONS AUGMENTED BY OPEN SPACE AND WALKABLE CONNECTIONS.

UH, THE P U D WILL BE SERVED BY PRIVATE STREETS.

UH, THE APPLICANT ALONG THE WAY HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS THE DESIGNS WERE BEING DEVELOPED AND INCORPORATED MUCH OF THAT INPUT THEY RECEIVED ALONG THE WAY.

UH, THEY ALSO INCORPORATED, UH, THE EDMOND PLAN 2018 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS AREA.

IT IS DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE CAMPUS BY THE PLAN, WHICH ANTICIPATES A VARIETY OF USES INCLUDING DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED

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COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? RANDY? I'VE HAD REALLY, THE ONLY CONTACT I'VE GOTTEN FROM RESIDENTS OR FROM RESIDENTS IN THE AREA REALLY ARE FROM THE CENTENNIAL AT IRON HORSE.

AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT THAT 50 FOOT BUFFER.

AND I THINK THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ITEM OF DISCUSSION AT PLANNING COMMISSION TWO.

IS THAT IN, I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW IT OR NOT.

READING THE P U D, IS THAT ACTUALLY IN THE P U D ITSELF OR IS THAT, IS THAT JUST SHOWN ON ON THE MASTER PLAN? IT, IT IS IN THE P ITSELF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.

RIGHT NOW APPLICANT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

CAITLIN TURNER 5 22 COLCORD DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS HERE WITH ME AS WELL AS THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS AN EXCITING NEW PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.

IT'S ANALOGOUS TO WHAT YOU SEE AT WHEELER DISTRICT OR GRIFFITH PARK.

SO MIXED USE.

YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL INTEGRATED VERY NICELY.

UM, THIS AND THAT'S ALSO ILLUSTRATED AGAIN IN THAT MASTER DESIGN STATEMENT.

UH, PRIOR TO THIS BEING SUBMITTED, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO AS, UH, MR. INS, UH, ALLUDED TO, THERE WAS A ABOUT A WEEK LONG OPEN HOUSE DISCUSSION WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS.

AROUND 2000 INVITATIONS WERE SENT TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, JUST TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT.

UH, THE APPLICANTS ALSO MET WITH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND MET WITH CITY STAFF PARKS AND REC UND PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND THE LIST GOES ON.

SO EXTENSIVE, UH, DUE DILIGENCE THERE WITH, UH, PUBLIC CONCERN.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S MODELED AFTER SOME VERY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENTS.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL ALSO BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL ADDITION TO THE CITY OF EDMOND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL AS, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY.

WE THEREFORE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT RIGHT NOW? I LOVE THAT THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR THIS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

YOU SELLING HOME .

READY? , ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? YES MA'AM.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.

RITA MILLER.

I'M SORRY? RITA MILLER.

I'M NOT A NEIGHBOR, SO I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR COMING IN SO LATE AND I WANNA REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

I GET TUNNEL VISION.

I CANNOT IMAGINE THE VOLUME OF DIFFERENT KIND OF STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO GUYS, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

SO I, I FOCUS ON DRAINAGE AND I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AND I'D REALLY, REALLY LIKE TO HELP EDMUND NOT KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES.

THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS IS, IS, IS REPAIRABLE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY, CAREFULLY.

AND THAT IS, ALL THE PICTURES ARE FLAT EXCEPT FOR THE DRAINAGE PICTURE, WHICH SHOWS CONTOUR LINES ON IT.

AND THE CONTOUR LINES ARE NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED.

BUT THESE ARE 10 FOOT INCREMENTS.

THIS PROPERTY IS RELATIVELY STEEP AND THE, THE DENSITY OF THE, OF THE DESIGN DOESN'T SHOW ME ANY PLACE THAT THEY'VE PLANNED IN RETAINING WALLS OR TERRACING.

AND THE POND ITSELF NEEDS TO HAVE A SECOND POND BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WATER, THE OVERFLOW FROM THIS IS GONNA GO RIGHT DOWNSTREAM.

SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THERE'S A SMALL ONE ON PAGE FIVE IF YOU'VE GOT THESE IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT THERE'S A LARGER ONE FARTHER BACK IN THE BACK IN THE, OH GOSH, WRONG PAGE.

UM, OKAY.

PAGE.

IT'S THE VERY END OF THE DRAWINGS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT.

UM, THIS IMAGE HERE ON PAGE FIVE,

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IT'S KIND OF SMALL.

THAT BUILDING RIGHT THERE, THE DRAWING SHOWS IT AS BEING FLAT, THE WHOLE AREA AS BEING FLAT.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT CREEK, FROM THE CREEK BOTTOM TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S ABOUT A HUNDRED FOOT DROP IN WHAT IF I'M CALCULATING IT EVEN CLOSELY CORRECT.

IS IN ABOUT 900 FEET.

THAT'S, THAT'S FAIRLY STEEP.

AND I JUST, I JUST, I THINK YOU WANT TO BE AWARE THAT IT'S GONNA REQUIRE TERRACING IN ORDER TO DO THAT KIND OF THING.

AND YOU MAY WANT TO PUSH THE SETBACK AWAY FROM THE CREEK BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE FLOODING ISSUES DOWNSTREAM.

I THINK THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING.

SO WHEN THEY DO COME BACK IT IS, IT IS.

AND, AND I'M, I I UNDERSTAND THIS CAN CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY.

UH, YEAH.

AND, AND THAT'S MY CAUTION, UHHUH IS THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH P U D.

, THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE PERSON WHO DOES THESE DRAWINGS, THAT HELPS YOU SEE WHAT IT'S REALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE, LOOKS AT THE CONTOURS THAT EXIST INSTEAD OF A FLAT RIGHT.

A FLAT PIECE OF LAND.

AND I MEAN, I I, I WORKED OUT SOME CALCULATIONS ON IT AND THEN I WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT JUST BECAUSE I'M LIKE, GOSH, IS IT REALLY THAT BAD? AND I'M, I BET THEY EVEN HAVE TO GO BEFORE SWAB.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE STORM WATER ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL AND MAKE SURE, AND THEY'RE PRETTY THOROUGH IN THERE TO MAKE SURE ABOUT DRAINAGE.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY CAUTION.

YOU IS ANYONE ELSE? COUNSEL? THIS IS A, UM, DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT.

THEY, THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

THEY'VE GONE OUT AND SPOKEN FOR A LONG TIME.

YEAH, I, I THINK IT, IT'S NO SECRET.

AND I THINK THIS DEVELOPER KNOWS THAT AS YOU MOVE EAST, IT'S A DIFFERENT TERRAIN.

, UM, THAN WEST EDMOND.

IT, IT'S JUST NOT THE PLAINS.

IT'S NOT.

AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT I'VE OBSERVED FROM THE BEGINNING IS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND, AND IN MY OPINION, NOT ONLY DO THEY UNDERSTAND IT, THEY THEY WANT TO, UH, THEY WANT TO ACCEPT THAT AS A, A CHALLENGE TO DO IT.

WELL.

UM, THEY, UH, THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO THIS HAS GOT SO MUCH ABOUT IT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, YOUR, THE AVERAGE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU, YOU CLEAR THE WHOLE SITE AND THEY MIGHT CLUMP, YOU KNOW, NOW TODAY, 20% OF THEIR PRESERVATION IN ONE AREA.

THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, EVEN THE CONCEPTUAL, IT'S COMPLETELY SPREAD OUT.

THEY'RE GOING AROUND THE PERIMETER, WHICH I LOVE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S A REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE A ROOM FULL OF, UM, NEIGHBORS FROM CENTENNIAL.

UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OFFERING THAT BUFFER TO THE WEST.

AND I HOPE AS YOU GO THROUGH IN YOUR ENGINEERING AND, AND, AND DRAINAGE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ABLE TO STAY IN PLACE REALLY, BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP SO MUCH.

BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT HOW THIS IS DONE.

BUT I KNOW THE DEVELOPERS CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A FLAT PIECE OF LAND MM-HMM.

AND, AND THEY DON'T WANNA MAKE IT FLAT.

, UH, THEY, THEY CAN'T PER OUR PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

AND SO THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME, SOME THINGS, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CHARACTER FROM LOT TO LOT AND, AND THEY KNOW THAT.

UM, AND SO I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU GUYS BEING AN EXAMPLE ON THIS AND SHOWING HOW IT CAN, IT CAN BE DONE REALLY WELL.

I THINK THE CHARACTER OF IT IS GONNA BE PART OF THE BEAUTY.

I THINK THERE'S EVEN CONNECTING WALKING TRAILS IN THERE, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A REALLY NEAT PLACE OUT THERE.

AND CONNECTING TO ALL THE TRAILS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING IS REALLY RIGHT.

IT'S ALL ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

KEEPING PEOPLE OUTSIDE.

UM, I I'M, I JUST REALLY HOPE IT, THIS ENDS UP HAPPENING THIS WAY.

HAVING COMMUNITY WITHIN COMMUNITY TO HAVE NEIGHBORS.

WELL, AND AND I HAVE TO SAY, WE'VE, SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOUR YEARS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE CONNECT MM-HMM.

CONNECT THINGS INSIDE PROJECT MM-HMM.

AND, AND THE WALKABILITY PORTION OF IT.

THE THE CONNECTOR ROADS INSIDE CONNECTING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

CORRECT.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND WE, AND WE, WE WISHED FOR IT AND, AND WE DREAMED FOR IT.

AND IT'S ALSO WAS VERY POPULAR IN THE EAST EDMOND STUDY SURVEYS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT? AND PEOPLE HAVE SEEN IT IN OTHER PLACES.

AND SO,

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I'M, I'M REALLY ROOTING FOR YOU.

I AM.

BECAUSE THIS IS NEW FOR US AND IT'S, AND IT'S BEEN ASKED FOR, IT REALLY HAS.

AND SO I'M, I'M REALLY ROOTING FOR YOU THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH.

WELL, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CONTROL TRAFFIC AS WE, UM, GROW WELL WITH A COMMUNITY WITHIN A COMMUNITY.

HOPE THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THESE FOLKS DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GET OUT IN THEIR VEHICLE.

SO, UM, THAT'S GROWTH WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL.

IT'S, IT'S JUST A GREAT AND THE PRESERVATION OF SOME OF THESE BEAUTIFUL TREE, IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I DRIVE BY IT ALL THE TIME.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I HAVE NO DOUBT IT'S GONNA STAY THAT WAY.

AND JUST TO THINK, UH, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO BEFORE THE, THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE PLATTED AND CLEARED.

COMPLETELY.

AND SO I, IN MY MIND, WE'VE COME, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY, UH, IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

CITIZEN, ONE QUESTION.

ALL THESE PLEASE, SIR, SIR, SIR, SIR, PLEASE COME UP TO WALK IN.

ALRIGHT.

SORRY BUD.

ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA HAVE KIDS.

WHERE ARE THOSE KIDS GONNA GO? WHICH SCHOOL THEY GONNA GO TO? AND ARE THEY, I I JUST AM ASKING A QUESTION.

NOW.

YOU GONNA HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN HERE, ALL THESE KIDS AND STUFF IN HERE, WHERE DO THEY GO TO SCHOOL? AND CAN THE SCHOOLS ACCEPT THEM? SO MY LONG REACH THINKING IS ALL WE'RE THINKING IS THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SCHOOLS FOR IT, YOU GOTTA BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL.

BUT WE JUST PUT 90, $81 MILLION, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD A LIBRARY AND STUFF.

SO SHOULDN'T WE BE THINKING OUT SCHOOLS INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I AGREE THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT, BUT WE'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND THE PARENTS PUT THE KIDS IN.

SO I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTIONS.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ASK.

I THINK THE SCHOOLS ARE PREPARING FOR THE GROWTH IN EDMOND.

AND THAT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE SALES TAX.

THAT COMES OUT OF PROPERTY TAX AND VISITING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SCHOOLS THEY HAVE, UM, ARE LOOKING FORWARD INTO WHAT SCHOOLS NEED TO BE, BE BUILT.

THEY'VE ALREADY PURCHASED SOME LAND FOR SOME AND DECIDING WHERE THOSE SCHOOLS CAN BE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH OF THE, AND HAVE THE KIDDOS HAVE A PLACE FOR THE KIDDOS.

WELL, I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN HERE AND TELL US WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN HERE.

THIS NEEDS TO BE A FACTORED INTO THIS KIND OF THING, SIR.

THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.

BUT, BUT SIR, IT AFFECTS ALL OF US.

SO I'M JUST SAYING SOON AS YOU COMBINE AND GET TO SCHOOLS AND YOU ALL AND SAY, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? AND THEY LET US KNOW SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

CAUSE THIS RIGHT HERE IS SCARY IF YOU'RE A SCHOOL TEACHER AT CENTRAL JUSTICE SCHOOL.

BUT THIS WILL PROBABLY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK, I THINK, STACY, I WANT TO ADD ON THAT THIS ANOTHER OPTION FOR THIS LAND THAT, THAT VERY WELL COULD BE, UH, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS IT BE COMPLETELY A, A SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND SING ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO A MIXED USE CAMPUS PROJECT LIKE THIS, YOU'RE BRINGING IN HOUSING OPTIONS THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THIS TIME THAT ARE FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OR EMPTY NESTERS.

UM, OR, OR, OR SINGLE PEOPLE THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE KIDS.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE FORMULA ON THIS.

I THINK I ALREADY KNOW IN MY MIND.

BUT IF YOU PUT, IF YOU PUT ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THIS PROP PROPERTY, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE ON A HUNDRED OR 200 GREENFIELD SITES IN EDMOND BEFORE, AND OR YOU MIX IT WITH THIS, UM, HOW MANY MORE, HOW MANY MORE SCHOOL CHILDREN YOU'D HAVE THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? MOTION TO APPROVE.

NINE A MOTION.

I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GOING AT THIS SINCE FIVE 30.

AND I KNOW, UH, WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS TO GO.

SO LET'S ADJOURN TO EIGHT 20.

HE WANTS TO GO HOME.

YEAH, I DO TOO.

ITEM IS NINE B CASE NUMBER E S 22 0 19 PUBLIC HEARING.

GONNA RECONVENE THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[B. Case #ES22-00019 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. _________ , closing a portion of a Public Way Closing, West Third Street, for the Buell Rezoning project to be located south of West Edmond Road, east of South Santa Fe Drive. (Buell) (Ward 3)]

CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39 41.

39 41, CLOSING A PORTION OF PUBLIC WAY CLOSING WEST THIRD FOR THE BU REZONING PROJECT TO BE LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST EDMOND ROAD, EAST OF SOUTH SANTA FE DRIVE.

SOUTH.

STREET WAS PLATTED BUT NEVER CONSTRUCTED AS THE AREA SHOWN IN RED ON THE MAP UP THERE.

, UH, THE AKIN IS SEEKING TO CLOSE A PORTION OF WEST THIRD STREET BETWEEN BROADWAY AND SANTA FE DRIVE.

THE

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UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE EAST WAS CLOSED IN 1987, BUT THERE'S A SMALL PORTION THERE THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW, ALLOW IT TO CONNECT.

AND THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH WAS ALSO CLOSED, WHICH IS WAS AN ALLEY.

UH, THERE IS A SEWER LINE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THAT AREA IN THE RED BOX THAT WILL HAVE TO BE COVERED BY UTILITY EASEMENT, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR MARCH 7TH MEETING.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW? NO.

IT'S BASICALLY NOT EVEN, IT'S OKAY.

THERE, THERE'S A BUILDING IN IT CURRENTLY, SO, YEAH.

ANY, UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T ASK.

IT WAS THE APPLICANT.

HERE? IS THE APPLICANT.

HERE HE IS AND HE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.

, SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? YES, SIR.

PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE LECTOR AND THEN INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

HI, MY NAME IS DENNIS RAY.

SIR, IF YOU CAN BRING THE MIC OVER A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN, YOU HAVE A SOFT VOICE LIKE I CAN, MY NAME IS DENNIS RAY.

I HAVE PROPERTY IN THE AREA, AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE USE OF THE BUE PROPERTY AND THE ZONING THAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU THAT THE DEVELOP DEVELOPER WANTS TO HAVE.

IS C, B D? WELL, RIGHT NOW ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE CLOSING.

OH, OF THE THIRD STREET? MM-HMM.

, I'M SORRY, I JUMPED AHEAD.

DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE CLOSING ABOUT THIS ONE? NO.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO FOR ITEM NINE B? MOTION TO APPROVE NINE B.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE'RE GONNA GO ON TO NINE C CASE NUMBER Z 2,228 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39 42.

NOW THAT ITEM'S BEEN APPROVED, NOW

[C. Case #Z22-00028 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. _________ for a Rezoning from “A” Single Family Dwelling District and “F-1-B” Special Industrial District, including Limited Outdoor Storage to “CBD” Central Business District for the property located at 106 and 130 W. Third Street. (Buell) (Ward 3)]

39 42 FOR A REZONING FROM A, A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT TO A F ONE B SPECIAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, INCLUDING LIMITED OUTDOOR STORAGE.

TWO CD C B D CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 6 AND ONE 30 WEST THIRD STREET.

BUELL IS THE APPLICANT APPLICANTS HERE.

DOWNTOWN AREA, WE'RE THINKING OF IF IMPROVEMENTS, TIF IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE THAT'S GOING TO HELP A BIGGER AREA THAN, THAN JUST THIS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY POTENTIALLY.

UH, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS RELATED TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AS DESCRIBED, UH, TO CBD CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

CURRENTLY, THIS SITE IS A MIX OF ZONINGS, INCLUDING A SINGLE FAMILY, F1, B, SPECIAL INDUSTRIAL, AND F1 B SPECIAL INDUSTRIAL.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO CB'S ZONING TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT TO APPLY FOR THAT.

UH, THE CBD ZONING ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF USE INCLUDING COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL.

THE FOUR ACRES IS DESIGNATED AS DOWNTOWN CORE IN THE EDMOND PLAN, WHICH VIEWS CBD ZONING AS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE.

UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS IS A ZONING REQUEST AND DETAILS RELATED TO DRAINAGE TRAFFIC AND OTHER SITE CONCERNS THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE SITE, UH, AS IT IS DEVELOPED WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS ARE MADE.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS ALSO IN THE CENTRAL EDMOND URBAN DISTRICT, UH, MEANING THIS REQUEST IS ALSO CONSIDERED BY THE URBAN BOARD, WHICH RECOMMENDED ITS APPROVAL PLANNING COMMISSION, ALSO CONSIDERED IT AT THEIR MARCH 7TH MEETING AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE, THE STAFF RIGHT NOW? YEAH, RANDY, THIS IS ALSO IN THE TIFF DISTRICT, RIGHT? IT IS IN THE TIFF DISTRICT AS WELL.

SO YES, IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TIFF TYPE THINGS, INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS, UM, AND, AND PRIMARILY IN THIS AREA, I THINK WE KNOW ABOUT DRAINAGE ISSUES.

UM, HOW CAN YOU EX CAN EXPLAIN IN, IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME HOW, HOW THE, THE TIF DISTRICT IN A A FULLER BOUNDARY AROUND THIS COULD HELP THINGS LIKE THAT IN A REGIONAL WAY? WELL, OUR TIF DISTRICT IS SET UP WITH TO MAINLY PROVIDE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

SO, UH, THINGS THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN ON THAT SITE, UH, LIKE DRAINAGE OR LIKE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS OR UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE, UH, COULD UTILIZE TIF FUNDING TO DO SUCH.

AND, AND IF THIS WAS CBD ZONING, UH, VERSUS, UM, SAY ANOTHER ZONING CATE CATEGORY ON ITS OWN, I, I, TO ME, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CBD, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF INCLUDING IT IN THE, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN THAT WAY.

AND IT ALREADY, TO ME IT ALREADY IS IN A WAY THAT IT'S IN THE TIF DISTRICT, UH, WHICH WE, WE THINK OF NOW AS, AS THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, IF IT WAS CBD ZONING

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YES, IT VERY MUCH COULD.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE TIFF IS SET UP THAT WAY TO THINK, UH, ABOUT THE WHOLE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.

IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE.

GOOD.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALSO PART OF THE URBAN DISTRICT, WHICH IS ALSO KIND OF BRINGS IT INTO THAT DOWNTOWN KIND OF AREA.

THE URBAN BOARD, IS THAT, IS THAT NEW FOR THIS PROPERTY OR HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN WHERE IT'S, THIS WOULD BE IN, IN THE URBAN DISTRICT.

THAT'S BEEN A WHILE, HASN'T IT? AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S BEEN PART OF THE URBAN DISTRICT.

WELL, I'M, I MEAN MY, MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS THIS REGION NEEDS HELP IN, IN INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, NOT JUST, NOT JUST THIS PROJECT.

AND WHEN YOU'RE THINKING WHETHER THIS WAS ITS OWN SINGLE ZONING OR, OR CBD ZONING, I, I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE EXPECTED FOR THAT ONE PROPERTY TO TAKE CARE OF IT ALL ITSELF.

, IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S MORE OF A GLOBAL, GLOBAL STRATEGY, UH, IN THE TIF DISTRICT ON CBD ZONING, UH, MAKES IT AVAILABLE FOR A LOT MORE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'D BE A LOT MORE MARKETABLE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S MORE, MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP MOST, MORE THAN LIKELY DOWNTOWN CBD.

WITH THOSE KINDS OF USES.

YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, BUT DON'T WE HAVE SOME, UM, SWAB STUDIES GOING ON IN THE SAME AREA? MM-HMM.

, UH, ACTUALLY WE DO, WE DID APPROVED HIM TOO.

YES, WE DID.

RANDY, I HAD, UH, MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER THAT I HAD A RESIDENT WHO HAD SOME CONCERN THAT, UM, IF THIS PROJECT DEVELOPS, IT WILL CREATE MORE TRAFFIC AND THEN, UH, SANTA FE WOULD BE WIDENED AND THERE WOULD ENCROACH INTO THE YARDS OF THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE EASEMENT.

BUT COULD YOU KIND OF ADDRESS THAT? SURE.

UM, AND THEN I WILL BOW MY ENGINEER FRAME ON MY RIGHT.

UH, THE TRAFFIC INFORMATION COMES ALONG AS A SITE DEVELOPED, RIGHT? SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AT THAT TIME AND ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE GENERALLY HAPPEN ON SITE.

SO IF, UM, IF SANTA FE WERE TO NEED TO BE WIDEN, WHICH I HARD TO SAY, UH, MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD REQUEST THAT EXTRA RIGHT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, EAST, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

WE, WE COULDN'T JUST GO CAPTURE RIGHT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET EASILY, LIKE ON SANTA FE ITSELF.

IT'S JUST, I MEAN, WE WOULD, UNLESS THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE WAS ZONED C B D, WE, IT WOULDN'T MEET THE FRONT SETBACK, UH, WHERE THE CURB WOULD BE.

IT'D EXPAND TO THE WEST.

IT, IT WOULDN'T MEET OUR CODE.

THEY HAVE THEIR EX EXISTING SETBACKS, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY, SO YEAH.

AC SINGLE FAMILY.

SO 20 OR 25 FEET, BUT YOU THINK MAYBE 20 BASED ON, FOR THE FRONT YARDS IT'D BE 20 FEET.

FOR THE SIDE YARDS IT'D BE 15 ISH, FIVE TO 15 ISH.

AND THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT KIND SIDE DOOR.

BUT YEAH, SO ADDRESSING IT ON BOTH SIDES, LIKELY, NUMBER ONE, IT MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO BE WIDENED.

THAT'S PART OF A TRAFFIC STUDY TOO.

IF IT DID, YOU LOOK FIRST TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND THEN LASTLY, IF THE NEEDED TO BE WIDENED, IT'S NOT GONNA GO TO 10 FEET OR SOMETHING.

IT WOULD, IF IT'S, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE CODE.

WELL, IF WE HAD TO GET THAT PROPERTY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REZONED.

WELL IT WOULD'VE TO BE MADE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, SO WE WOULD'VE TO PURCHASE IT OR SOME OTHER WAY TO OBTAIN THAT PROPERTY.

GOTCHA.

THE TIFF AND THE EXPANSION OF CBD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING, TODD MCKINNIS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA MENTION.

UM, AS RANDY SAID, THE SITE PLAN COMES WITH TRAFFIC IF WE NEED IT.

UH, WE'VE GOT ACCESS ON THIRD STREET, FOURTH STREET, FIFTH STREET, ALL AND SANTA FE, ALL TO THIS SITE.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR ACRES HERE.

UH, SO THE IDEA AS TO SOME SORT OF SIGNIFICANT BURDEN, UH, FOR A MASSIVE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT SEEMS PRETTY UNLIKELY.

BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AT THAT TIME.

THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST MENTION QUICKLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT CENTRAL EDMOND URBAN BOARD, UH, THAT WENT WELL.

WE'RE A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WENT WELL.

AND MR. RAY IS GONNA SPEAK HERE IN A MINUTE AND HE HAS SOME CONCERNS THAT I'M SURE ARE LEGITIMATE ABOUT FLOODING.

UH, AND I THINK RANDY HANDLED IT WELL.

BUT I JUST WANNA MENTION, OFTENTIMES WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN, THEY'RE TOLD ABOUT ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT EXIST WITH THE PROPERTY AS IT PERTAINS TO THAT MOMENT.

AND THE REALITY OF IT IS, MOST OF THE TIMES THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR SOLVING THAT PROBLEM OR PROVIDING A FIX IS WITH IMPROVEMENTS.

RIGHT? AND SO THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, AND SO THAT'S WHY THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS.

I DO THINK JOSH IS RIGHT, THAT YOU'LL SEE OTHER PROPERTIES COME IN, UH, AND ASK TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CBD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY'S LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR WITH

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I THINK BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING AT MY OFFICE, YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HEAR US COME IN HERE AND FROM AREAS NORTH OF NINTH STREET ALL THE WAY NORTH OF DOWNTOWN, ASK FOR THAT TO BE DONE.

YOU GUYS ARE SPENDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NOBODY SEES, BUT THAT'S SO THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS CAN HAPPEN.

AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, DESPITE THE ISSUE OF SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE AND FLOODING, THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED AS WE COME FORWARD, UH, IN THE FUTURE WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE BEE FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THIS TOWN AND AROUND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

UH, EVERY ONE OF US HAS CUT DOWN THIRD STREET TO GET OVER TO BROADWAY, UH, TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC AT SECOND AND BROADWAY.

I WILL SAY, I DIDN'T MENTION IT EARLIER, BUT THE WHOLE REASON OF CLEANING UP THE VACATION OF THE EASEMENT IS NOT JUST THIS, WHICH IS CERTAINLY BENEFICIAL, BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE WHERE THE ROAD EXISTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WE'LL CLEAN THAT UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHEN WE COME IN WITH OUR, WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER, COUNSEL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? NO, NO, NO.

, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'M GONNA SPEAK UP.

MY NAME IS DENNIS.

I OWN PROPERTY IN THE AREA.

ALRIGHT, SLIDE ONE.

THIS IS IT.

OKAY, NOW WE COULD EVEN GO BACK TO THE OTHER CAUSE IT WAS IN COLOR AND THAT WAS AWFUL.

MICE.

ALRIGHT.

THIRD STREET IS RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE EASEMENT.

FOURTH STREET IS JUST A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF IT.

AND HEADS WEST, I HAVE A CONCERN THAT WHATEVER GOES IN HERE, THE TRAFFIC WILL GO DOWN FOURTH STREET IN ORDER TO EXIT AND GO WEST ON EDMOND ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU CAN EXIT OFF OF SANTA FE AND GO LEFT ON EDMOND ROAD.

SO THAT'S GONNA DUMP A HIGHER FLOW OF TRAFFIC NO MATTER WHAT THEY PUT IN THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S GONNA BE A HIGHER FLOW OF TRAFFIC DOWN FOURTH STREET.

NOW, IF WE COULD GO TO THOSE SLIDES THAT I SENT YOU TODAY, CHRISTIE, I WENT OUT AND I MEASURED THESE STREETS AND THE EASEMENTS.

THEY'RE 20 FOOT STREETS PLATTED BACK IN 19 OT BEFORE THEY EVER, THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE THOUGHT APARTMENTS OR ANY, ANYTHING WOULD GO BACK INTO THAT ORCHARD.

UM, AND THE EASEMENT, I MEAN THE STREET EASEMENTS ARE 60 FOOT, SO THAT'S 30 FOOT ON BOTH SIDES.

AND THAT YELLOW FLAG IS RIGHT WHERE THE CITY OWNS PROPERTY.

UP UNTIL THAT SO PROMISES OR PROMISES, BUT UNLESS IT'S IN WRITING AND IT'S CAREFULLY PLANNED, THE RESIDENTS THAT OWN THOSE HOUSES, MYSELF INCLUDED, COULD LOSE THAT MUCH LAND TECHNICALLY.

AND IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

THIS IS GOING DUE WEST DOWN FOURTH STREET AGAIN.

YOU GO BACK 30 FEET FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, THOSE TWO LITTLE YELLOW FLAGS INDICATE WHERE POTENTIALLY THE CITY COULD WIDEN THE STREET TO.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE IFS, ANDS, AND BUTTS ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD, BUT UNLESS IT'S IN WRITING, UNLESS WE HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTROL OVER THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN THERE, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO DO IF WE DON'T SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS UP FRONT.

IF WE GIVE HIM C B D AND HE DECIDES TO PUT IN, UH, HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, AND THEN AS LONG AS HE DOTS HIS EYES AND CROSSES HIS TS AND DOES EVERYTHING RIGHT WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE SOIL STUDY, HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS AS LONG AS HE MEETS THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

AND THESE POOR FOLKS ARE GONNA LOSE THEIR YARDS.

MR. RAY, I HAVE TO SAY IT IS IN WRITING IN OUR CODE WHERE YOUR FLAG IS AND WHERE THE SIDE OF THAT HOUSE IS, DOES NOT MEET CODE TO SIDE YARD TO A STREET WHERE YOUR FLAG WAS IN THE FRONT.

SETBACK DOES NOT MEET CODE.

WE, WE WOULDN'T BE.

IT IS IN WRITING IN OUR CODE.

WELL THEN EDUCATE.

WHAT IS THE CODE? WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S A 20 FOOT, IT'S A 20 FOOT SETBACK OR 2020 TO 25 FOOT SETBACK ON A SINGLE FAMILY.

FROM WHERE YOUR FLAG IS RIGHT NOW WOULD HAVE TO BE 20 TO 25 FEET TO THE, TO THE FRONT WALL AND TO, AND TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 20 FEET FROM THE FLAG CURRENTLY TO THE STREET? NO, IT'S THE HOUSE TO THE, IF THE STREET MOVE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF THE STREET MOVED TO YOUR FLAG, WE WE WOULDN'T BE MEETING CODE.

THE CITY WOULD, WOULD NOT BE MEETING OUR CODE, WHICH IS IN WRITING.

IS, THE STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO TO BE 20 FEET BEYOND THE FLAG.

I'M GONNA REPEAT THAT BACK TO YOU SO I CAN MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

UNDER THE CURRENT CODE WHERE THE FLAG

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CORRECT.

AND IT'S NOT NOW BECAUSE IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT BACK IN THE TENS.

THIS MEETS A SINGLE FAMILY CODE.

SO THEY CAN'T ENCROACH AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED.

SO THE STREET WITH THE ROAD CAN'T COME ANY FURTHER WEST.

ANY, IF THEY HAVE TO WIDEN THE STREET, IT'S GONNA GO EAST.

WELL, WE'D HAVE TO MEET OUR OWN CODE, CORRECT? YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE EAST ON THE, ON THE, THAT'S A BIG IMPORTANT THING FROM, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION UP FRONT.

UM, YOU WANT SET THINGS YOU TO CLARIFY.

SO IF WE'RE DON'T NEED STREET IMPROVEMENTS, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT MORE RIGHT OF WAY THAN STREET OUT THERE.

RIGHT? AND SO, UM, WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IF THE CITY MAKES ANY IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF EITHER TIF DISTRICT OR ANYTHING ELSE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D BE DOING IS LOOKING AT DRAINAGE, RIGHT? SO THOSE LOTS WERE PROBABLY DEVELOPED WITH BAR DITCHES IN THE FRONT YARDS IN THE BEGINNING, AND THEY'RE ALL FILLED IN.

I'VE MADE, I'VE OWED EM FOR 50 YEARS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT IS, IS THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE STORM WATER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

UM, NOW AS, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPMENT COMING IN TO UH, ADDRESS THE, THE PAVEMENT ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO, UH, WIDEN ON THEIR SIDE OF THE ROAD.

UM, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY DECIDES TO COME IN AND, AND WIDEN THE ROAD AT SOME POINT, UM, WE CAN, THE, THE SETBACKS, UH, DON'T REALLY APPLY AT THAT POINT.

SO, UM, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.

UM, AND I THINK ANY OF THE USE THE RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE USED FOR WHAT IT'S USED FOR NOW FOR UTILITIES, STORM WATER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO AS FAR AS WIDENING ANY WIDENING OF ANY OF THE ROADS OUT THERE BESIDES, UH, SANTA FE DRIVE, UM, DON'T REALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH THIS PROJECT.

MAY I ASK EVEN ON FOURTH STREET, BECAUSE THIS IS FOURTH STREET WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

WELL, I I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, BUT AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL, OUR, OUR NORMAL, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY, UH, RE REHABILITATION REPLACEMENT OF OUR ROADS, UM, WE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT, UH, WIDENING OUT TO CURRENT STANDARDS.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NOW JUST 10 FOOT LANES, WE MIGHT LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT WIDER, UH, SURFACE IN THE FUTURE, UH, JUST AS PART OF NORMAL STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENTS.

UM, OR IF YOU DID STORM WATER AND CURB MM-HMM.

RIGHT? EXACTLY.

OR OR STORM SEWER.

SO WE MAY BE LOOKING AT SOME STORM SEWER IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA AND PART OF THAT COULD BE EITHER ADDING CURBS, UH, BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING TAKING IT TO FOUR LANES.

WELL, IT IS GOOD TO HEAR ABOUT THE STORM WATER MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT IS A PROBLEM OVER THERE.

BUT IF THE TRAFFIC STUDY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE FOUR ACRES DEMANDS X AMOUNT OF ROADWAY FOR THE TRAFFIC, COULD THAT ALSO FORCE THE CITY TO WIDEN THOSE ROADS ON FOURTH STREET IN SANTA FE? FOURTH STREET'S MY BIGGER CONCERN RIGHT NOW.

WELL, I THINK ANYTHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE DEVELOPER ADDRESSING, UH, ANY OF THE TRAFFIC NEEDS AND NOT NECESSARILY THE CITY DOING IT, BUT REQUIRING THE DEVELOPER TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

AND, UH, I WE DON'T FORESEE ANY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING, UH, ON FOURTH STREET FOR THE SMALL OF AN ACREAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

IF THERE WERE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS IN THERE WITH A LOT OF PARKING, IS THAT A TRIGGER TO MAKE YOU LOOK AT THAT? UH, IT HAS TO BE OVER A HUNDRED VEHICLES PER HOUR, UH, TO TRIGGER THAT.

AND, AND KEEP IN MIND, MOST OF THE EAST WEST STREETS IN DOWNTOWN ARE TWO LANE NOW.

, I MEAN, SO I MEAN OUR C B D IS, THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE TWO LANE STREETS, TWO LANES GONNA STAY AROUND MILLHOUSE, RIGHT? YEAH.

, YES.

AND WE'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON MY SIDEWALKS AND THINKING OF A PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS, MORE, MORE MULTIMODAL TYPE OF THINGS.

? CORRECT.

DO YOU CONSIDER THIS ONE LANE BY DEFINITION? NO, THAT'S A TWO LANE EXTREME TRAFFIC GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, I AM CONCERNED THAT CBD IS GOING TO OPEN UP A PANDORA'S BOX FOR MY PROPERTY AND THESE PROPERTIES OVER HERE, IF NOT NOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT CAREFULLY.

I THINK I KNOW WHICH WAY THE VOTE'S GOING TO GO, BUT I AM CONCERNED.

SO I'VE SAID MY PEACE.

I, I KNOW THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, MR. RAY SHOWED EARLIER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? YES, SIR.

PLEASE COME DOWN, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

UH, MY NAME IS MIKE HERNEY.

I LIVE IN, UH, 31 0 8, UM, HARDWICK ROAD IN HAMPTON HOLLOW.

AND, UH,

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UM, THE FIRST TWO PROPERTIES, AND MY CONCERN AS WELL AS I KNOW THE OWNER'S CONCERN IS THE STORM WATER, WHEN IT RAINS HEAVY, THERE'S NO CURBING THERE.

AND REALLY, THERE'S REALLY NO GUTTERS, TO TAKE CARE OF ANYTHING.

IT JUST, IT, IT, IT JUST GOES WHERE IT GOES RIGHT NOW.

AND SO, AND I KNOW I, I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH, UH, PROJECTS NOT WANTING TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT SOMEHOW IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING UP OVER HERE, MORE WATER'S GONNA GET FORCED OVER UNDER THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

AND SO I'M JUST KIND OF REITERATE MR. RAY'S CONCERN WITH, UH, STORMWATER.

SO SIR, WE ARE, WE DO HAVE, UNDER OUR STORM WATER BOARD, THEY ARE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THIS PART OF OUR TOWN.

AND WE HAVE ANALYSIS GOING ON RIGHT NOW TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS DOWN THERE.

SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE NOW.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

AND WHEN THERE'S DEVELOPER MEANT THAT GOES IN, IF THE PERMEABILITY IS CHANGED OR ALTERED IN ANY WAY, UM, THAT DEVELOPER HAS TO LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL FOR THE STORM MORTGAGE DRAINAGE.

SO THAT, THAT WILL NOT GO UNNOTICED.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM NINE C? MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION? SECOND.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO NINE D CASE NUMBER Z 22 DASH 0 0 29 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 39 43.

[D. Case #Z22-00029 Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. _________ for a Rezoning from “G-A” General Agriculture to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for Meadow Brook (prev. Easton Woods), north and east of Covell and Air Depot (Premium Land LLC) (Ward 2) ]

39 43 FOR REZONING FROM A GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO A PUD PLAN.

UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR MEADOWBROOK PREVIOUS IS EASTON WOODS, NORTH AND EAST OF COVELL IN AIR DEPOT.

UH, PREMIUM LAND LLCS, THE APPLICANT IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.

UH, AS YOU SAID, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A P U D, WHICH WILL ALLOW A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT ON 75 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COVELL, UH, BETWEEN AIR DEPOT AND MIDWEST BOULEVARD.

IT'S THE AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW BEFORE YOU THERE.

UM, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DES, UH, ZONE GA OR GENERAL AG.

APPROXIMATELY 55 ACRES OF THE SITE IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS OPEN SPACE BY THE P U D LEAVING IT UNDEVELOPED.

THE OTHER 20 ACRES WILL BE DEVELOPED WITH TOWN HOMES, WHICH ARE CAPPED AT 200 UNITS, WHICH IS ALMOST THREE UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE ENTIRE SITE, OR 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, FOR THE DEVELOPABLE AREA, EACH OF THE UNITS WILL BE TWO STORIES WITH ATTACHED GARAGES.

THE ACCESS WILL BE, UH, PRIVATE THROUGH, ALTHOUGH THE PD OFFERS TWO OPTIONS FOR ACHIEVING THIS ONE BEING SERVED BY A PRIVATE DRIVE, UH, MAINTAINING THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AS A SINGLE ENTITY OWNERSHIP.

UH, THE SECOND OPTION WILL UTILIZE PRIVATE STREETS ALLOWING FOR THE LOSS TO BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.

UH, FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, THE IMPACTS OF THE TWO OPTIONS ARE RELATIVELY THE SAME.

THE EDMOND PLAN DESIGNATION AREA SUBURBAN TWO NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS LARGELY MADE UP OF SINGLE FAMILY SUBURBAN STYLE RESIDENTIAL.

HOWEVER, THE PLAN STATE'S FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CATEGORY SHOULD DIVERSIFY HOUSING TYPES BY INCLUDING SUCH THINGS AS TOWN HOMES, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR MARCH 17TH.

ANY COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY NOTICE IN THE P U D IN OUR PACKET? SOMETHING IS HIGHLIGHTED.

I THINK IT MAY BE THE ONLY THING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED.

UH, THE DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE BETWEEN THE PROJECT AND THE UNDEVELOPED 55 ACRE AREA.

IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED? I BELIEVE THAT WAS A STATEMENT THAT WAS ADDED IN, UH, AND IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE APPLICANT SO THAT WE WOULD SEE THAT IT WAS ADDED IN.

TO COME WITH THIS PROJECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF APPLICANT LIKE THAT ADD ANYTHING? UH, TODD MCKINNIS FOR THE APPLICANT? I KNOW IT'S LATE, UH, AND SO I DON'T WANT TO NOT GIVE THIS THE CREDIT THAT IT'S DUE.

UH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME.

I DON'T WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

UH, ZACH HOLLAND IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.

KENDALL DILLON IS OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD ON THIS PROJECT.

UH, CHRIS, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT WAS UP A MINUTE AGO, BUT, UH, YEAH, THIS ONE SHOWS THE PROJECT, UH, AS A WHOLE.

UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER SOME OF YOU, WE BROUGHT A PROJECT IN IN 2015 BEFORE EDMUND PLANNED 2018 WAS IN PLACE FOR OUR TYPICAL GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT PROJECT AND JUST GOT OUR HEAD HANDED TO US IN THE PROCESS.

AND SO, UH, MY CLIENT OWNED THE LAND THEN AND HAS SAT ON IT AND WORKED WITH THE PLANNING WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND

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AND, UH, WE HAD A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETING.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'RE AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN HERE TONIGHT.

AND SO THE REASON WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT MAKES SENSE NOW, CHRISTIE, MY NEXT PAGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, RANDY SAID IT OUT LOUD, READ IT, THAT THE EDMOND PLAN 2018 MENTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE A VARIETY OF HOME TYPES, SPECIFICALLY TOWN HOMES, GARAGE APARTMENTS DO TRY AND QUADPLEXES.

AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO IDENTIFY THAT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, CUZ YOU KEEP SPENDING THE MONEY, THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS CONTINUALLY IMPROVED THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, WASTEWATER, UH, TRAFFIC STREETS, ALL THOSE THINGS.

UH, THE HOUSING OPTIONS OUT HERE MAKE PERFECT SENSE IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

CITY OF, OF THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS ANNOUNCED A PLAN FOR ELEMENTARY AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL AT THE INTERSECTION OF AIR DEPOT AND, UH, COVELL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE A HIGH SCHOOL, BUT NOW THEY WENT FURTHER OUT EAST FOR THAT.

AND SO, UH, THE IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY CONTINUING TO GROW.

UH, WE DO HAVE A 55 ACRE PIECE THAT IS COMPLETELY, UH, LEFT UNTOUCHED.

THE SECOND ITEM, AND I'LL MENTION IN A MINUTE, UH, COUNCILMAN MOORE, WE HIGHLIGHT I THINK ANOTHER THING, THE WORD PERMANENT WE ADDED IN THERE.

UH, FENCE TO OUR CLOSEST FENCE IS 450 FEET.

BECAUSE THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, US LEAVING ALONE THAT 55 ACRES, BUT I'LL HIT THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, MR. ENS MENTIONED IT.

HAMPTON HOLLOW IS 2.7 UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, COWELL VALLEY'S 3.47 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND WE'RE AT 2.66 WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO IT'S KINDA RIGHT IN WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHRIS, I'LL HIT THROUGH THAT QUICKLY.

I MEAN, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN EDMOND WISE GROWTH, INTELLIGENT GROWTH, NOT ALL SINGLE FAMILY, LARGE LOT HOME DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS PROJECT IS MODELED AFTER THE BUNGALOW HEIGHTS PROJECT THAT'S RIGHT ALONG I 35 NORTH OF SECOND STREET AND SOUTH OF, UH, DANFORTH THAT CALEB MC CALEB IS DOING.

THAT'S A TAKEOFF OF ARBOR CREEK.

THAT'S A TAKEOFF OF THE PORCHES AT ARB CREEK BECAUSE THOSE TYPES OF HOUSING OPTIONS ARE CERTAINLY DESIRED.

UH, AS RANDY MENTIONED, WE ALREADY HAD SOME LIMITATIONS ON OUR USE OF OUR LAND.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE JUST ADDRESSES SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS WE DID IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH NEIGHBORS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

THE IDEA OF THE TWO STORY BUILDINGS, WE ADDED THE WORD PERMANENT RIGHT IN HERE IN OUR PD DESIGN STATEMENT TO CUZ THERE'S SOME QUESTION, UH, AT EITHER THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE CAN LATER GO BACK IN AND TRY TO RECLAIM THAT LAND.

AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COMMUNICATE.

THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

IT'S IN OUR PD THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

AND, UM, MR. UH, HERNEY WHO CAME UP HERE A MINUTE AGO ON MY PREVIOUS PROJECT, UH, COMMUNICATED WITH ME EARLIER THIS WEEK.

AND SO I SENT HIM THE REVISIONS TO OUR DOCUMENT THAT ADDED THE PERMANENCE TO IT.

THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION THAT WE WERE, SOMEHOW I WAS SLOPPY IN MY LANGUAGE OR SOMETHING.

IT WASN'T A QUESTION.

THAT'S MY CONFESSION, THAT OUR EIGHT FOOT SITE PROOF FENCE DIDN'T COMPLETELY ENCIRCLE OUR PROJECT.

AND IT DOES THE EAST SIDE, THE NORTHWEST SIDE, THE NORTH SIDE, NORTHEAST, EVERYTHING BUT THE FRONT, IT'LL BE MORE DECORATIVE BECAUSE THAT'S MORE ATTRACTIVE.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANT SITE PROOF FENCES WHEN WE HAVE 55 ACRES OF VEGETATION.

BUT THAT WAS ATTRACTIVE TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, THAT CAME OUT AND DISCUSSED IT WITH US.

WE ALSO ADDED SOME BUILDING, UH, REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS WHAT THE MATERIALS LOOK LIKE.

THAT WAS A POINT OF CONTENTION IN DURING ONE OF OUR MEETINGS.

AND THEN THE IDEA OF INDIVIDUAL LOT OWNERSHIP.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE.

AND IT CAME UP AT EACH MEETING THAT WE HAD BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT WAS GONNA BE OWNED BY ONE ENTITY, ONE CORPORATE OWNER, OR THEY WERE GONNA BE INDIVIDUALLY LOCKED, UH, OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS.

I GUESS I BELIEVE THAT'S IRRELEVANT TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.

I ALSO BELIEVE IT'S IRRELEVANT TO A ZONING DISCUSSION.

BUT NONETHELESS, WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE IN OUR P U D AND MR. INS MENTIONED IN A MINUTE AGO TO GIVE US EITHER OR OPTIONS.

UH, WE WERE DELAYED A COUPLE WEEKS AT PLANNING COMMISSION, SO WE CAN PROVIDE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IF WE GO WITH ONE OWNER, THEN WE HAVE THIS PATH.

BUT IF WE GO WITH INDIVIDUAL LOTS TO BE SOLD, THEN WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PATH.

PRIVATE STREETS VERSUS PRIVATE DRIVES IN EDMOND, WE DON'T GIVE STREET NUMBERS FOR PRIVATE DRIVES.

AND SO THAT IS ONE BIG APARTMENT PROJECT, IF YOU WILL, WITH BUILDING A AND B AND C.

SO WE PROVIDED TWO PATHS FOR US TO GO DOWN AN EVENT THAT THE OWNER DECIDES WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE PROJECT.

ADMITTEDLY, WE DON'T KNOW.

AND THAT WAS DISAPPOINTING TO A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE A STRONG OPINION AS TO WHY ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

MY SILLY EXAMPLE WAS HIGHLAND 55 AT PELICAN BAY IS SINGLE OWNED AND IT'S THE HIGHEST RENT RATES AND THE NICEST DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN EDMOND WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, NOT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A BIG DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO.

BUT NONETHELESS, THAT WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

YOU MAY HEAR IT AGAIN TONIGHT.

SO A COUPLE OTHER JUST PICTURES THAT WE HAVE OF WHAT OUR PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, YOU CAN CLIP THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHRISTIE.

AND THAT'S THE CLUBHOUSE ON OUR PROJECT.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE CLOSEST,

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I'VE GOT A COUPLE PICTURES IN HERE NOW THAT ARE UP AT 28 FEET IN THE AIR THAT SHOW YOU WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROJECT.

I THINK THERE'S THREE OR FOUR OF THESE.

CHRISTIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THEY JUST GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROJECT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST.

THIS IS, UH, JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT CAME UP DURING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

THESE, UH, ARE CERTAINLY NOT INSIGNIFICANT AND ODDLY ENOUGH, NOT UNCOMMON, UH, THE DENSITY.

AND I MENTIONED THAT A MINUTE AGO ABOUT WHAT THE, UH, SURROUNDING PROJECTS ARE AS FAR AS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE DENSITY THAT WE HAVE HERE, THE LACK OF CURRENT TRAFFIC.

AND MR. UH, LAWRENCE CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A, UH, TARGETED ROADWAY TO BE IMPROVED IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD THIS TOMORROW.

I WOULD IMAGINE IF EDMOND APPROVES THE BOND ISSUE NEXT FEBRUARY, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A SCHOOL HERE BEFORE WE BUILD OUR PROJECT.

BUT NONETHELESS, TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE AND WILL BE, AND THE CITY HAS INVESTED SIGNIFICANTLY IN PREPARING FOR THAT.

I MENTIONED A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE TYPICALLY MENTIONED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HAVE ANY BASIS IN FACT OR REALITY.

SO, UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

UH, WE HAVE A GREAT PROJECT HERE AND I THINK IT'LL ADD A WONDERFUL ELEMENT TO OUR HOUSING IN THAT PART OF TOWN.

WE'D LOVE YOUR SUPPORT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD ANY.

I I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER YOU SURROUND THAT.

I THINK IT'S A FIVE ACRE PIECE.

IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

AND I, I I I, AS FAR AS I KNOW, I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT OR NOT, BUT WHO IT IS JUST INTERESTING HOW YOU SURROUND IT AND HAVE YOU HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THEM? YEAH, WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THAT LANDOWNER GOING BACK TO EARLIER, PRIOR TO 2015.

UM, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT LIVED THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE STILL IS ON THE SITE OR, BUT, UH, WAS, UH, HAD WASN'T ODD NECESSARILY ADVERSE TO US, NEVER SPOKE AT ANYTHING, BUT JUST HAD NO DESIRE TO SELL.

I THINK HE'S NOT THERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

HIS FAMILY HAS THE PROPERTY.

IT'D BE MORE CONVENIENT, UH, AND FOR US FROM A PRAGMATIC STANDPOINT.

UH, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE MEMO, WE HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR ROADWAY AND HOW WE LINE THESE UP AND WE'LL WORK AS WE COME WITH THE CITY IF WE'RE HAPPY, UH, HAPPEN TO GET THIS APPROVED AS FAR AS ALIGNMENT OF OUR ROADWAYS.

AND THERE'S SOME CONCERNS IN COVILLE VALLEY OVER HERE ABOUT WHERE THEY ENTER AND EXIT COVELL ROAD.

UH, SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THIS EXTRA THREE TO 400 FEET, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S HERE TONIGHT, UH, WAS THE, UH, CHANGE IN ELEVATION THAT REALLY CRESS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APCARE? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCED LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.

COME ON DOWN TO THE, LIKE, TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.

THANK YOU MUCH, SIR.

UH, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME'S JEFF HAYES AND I'M AT 2301 PRESERVE EDGE DRIVE A AND THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS IS REZONING.

THIS, THIS LAND OF P U D IS INCONSISTENT WITH EDMOND 2050, UH, PARDON ME, EAST EDMOND, UH, 20.

SO EAST EDMOND 2050 SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIES PROTECTING THE RURAL CHARACTER, PRESERVING OP OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVATION OF RURAL AND AGRICULTURAL LANDS.

UH, SO SOME MAJOR TOPICS IS, UH, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT BROUGHT UP, UH, PREVIOUSLY IN THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SO, UH, THE PLANNED IMPLEMENTATION OF MANY OF THESE, UH, ELEMENTS, THE SAFETY CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE EDUCATION CONCERNS.

SO ONE ELEMENT BROUGHT UP, UH, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

AND, AND I UNDERSTAND I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THESE, UH, PROCEDURES IN THE, IN THE FINE DETAIL.

UM, BUT A LOT OF DEFERENCE WAS GIVEN TO THE SITE PLAN STAGE VICE THE REZONING STAGE.

UM, BUT I, I JUST REALLY WANT TO INFOR EMPHASIZE SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, FROM PRIOR RESIDENTS OF, OF COLORADO, LIKE MYSELF AND THEN SOME OTHER PRIOR RESIDENTS OF TEXAS, OF IF YOU PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT TO EXPAND BEFORE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, IT HAS A MAJOR REDUCTION ON QUALITY OF LIFE FOR DECADES TO COME.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE UM, POINT OF EMPHASIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN EAST EDMOND 2050, THE PREFERRED SCENARIO FOR THIS AREA IS LISTED AS SINGLE FAMILY.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LOGIC BEHIND THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THOSE, UH, TRAFFIC CONCERNS, EAST EDMOND 2050 RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR THE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, EXPANSION, AND THAT PIVOTS PRETTY SEAMLESSLY INTO SAFETY.

NOW, UH, I, I DO WANNA APPLAUD THE, UH, ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT.

I, I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE THESE BEFORE, UH, ON SOME OF THE 2D LAYOUTS THAT WERE PRESENTED.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME TOPOGRAPHIC LINES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED.

UH, SOME PREVIOUS SERVICE MEMBERS SPOKE AT THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND I AM, UH, BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT IN LAND NAVIGATION.

BUT SOMETHING THAT, UH, ONE GENTLEMAN WANTED TO EMPHASIZE,

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AND I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE IS MOST FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, UH, GIVEN THAT'S IN HIS WARD.

BUT THERE IS GOING TO, AS, AS PLANNED IN SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE DEPICTIONS RIGHT NOW, THE CREST OF THAT HILL IS GOING TO, UH, STRADDLE WITH THOSE TWO POSITIONS, UH, ENTRY AND EXIT OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AREA.

ON ONE SIDE OF THAT HILL IS A DAYCARE.

YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ENTERING AND EXITING WITH VERY SMALL CHILDREN AT VERY SLOW SPEEDS.

AND HAVING AN ADDITIONAL EXPANSION OVER A BLIND HILL IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO EMPHASIZE AS PART OF THAT TRAFFIC SAFETY STUDY.

UM, I, I DO THINK THE TOPOGRAPHIC LINES ARE A GOOD ADDITION, UH, TO THOSE DEMONSTRATIONS, BUT REALLY DON'T GIVE A FULL APPRECIATION OF THE DANGER OF THE CURRENT TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE IF THIS PLAN FOR REZONING IS PROCEEDED WITH.

UM, NOW JUST NOT, NOT LOOKING TO THE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT AT AIR DEPOT AND COVELL VALLEY AT CERTAIN TIMES OF RUSH HOUR THAT, UH, FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN BACKS UP ALL THE WAY TO THE DAYCARE.

YOU ADD THE DENSITY THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES ARE ONLY GOING TO INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND THAT'S WHY I EMPHASIZE EXPANSION OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PRIOR TO THE EXPANSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT UPHOLDS THAT QUALITY OF LIFE NOW, UH, IN KIND OF, UH, SCALING OUT ON THOSE TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS.

SO, SO MANY OF THE EASTBOUND, UH, EXITS OFF OF I 35 NORTHBOUND HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO BACK UP WELL INTO THE HIGHWAY EXIT.

AND SO SPECIFICALLY AT COVELL AND I 35, THE WAY THAT BRIDGE IS LAID OUT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A REAL VISUAL OBSTRUCTION.

AND SO THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE ADDING MORE DENSITY ONTO THAT RIGHT HAND TURN LANE.

SO I THINK THAT'S A, UH, TOPIC THAT THE, UH, COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THAT TRAFFIC SAFETY STUDY PRIOR TO MOVING IN ANY TYPE OF DIRECTION AND EXPANDING THIS FROM RURAL AGRICULTURE TO A P U D.

UM, NOW, UH, AS ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT BRINGS UP, UH, NOT SURE ABOUT WHY THE INDIVIDUAL LOT OWNERSHIP IS SUCH A POINT OF EMPHASIS, WHAT COMES BACK TO THAT SAFETY CONCERN.

AND IT COMES BACK TO SOMETHING THAT HE REFLECTED ON IN WHY THAT'S HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS INITIALLY DISAPPROVED THE RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA, INCLUDING MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZED THE SIGNIFICANT DISTINCTION BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL TOWNHOUSE OWNERSHIP AND A LARGE RENTAL PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN THAT, UH, AT LEAST FOR MYSELF AND SPEAKING FOR MY NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BRING UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL WHEN MAKING THIS P U D ZONING DECISION.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, EDUCATION.

UH, I, I DO APPRECIATE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT BRINGING UP, UH, THE CHANGES, UH, TO THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS PLAN.

UH, WE WERE NOT TRACKING ON, UH, AN EXPAND PLAN FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN, IN THAT SPACE.

AND I THINK, CERTAINLY THINK IT ANSWERS THE FAIR QUESTION, WHICH IS ALWAYS ALRIGHT, IS IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES IN, IS THERE GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL CAPACITY? IS THERE GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN SCHOOL CAPACITY AT THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE OR THERE MORE SCHOOLS PLANNED? SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE TIME OF THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT QUESTION FAIRLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT AFFECTS THE CHILDREN OF, OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, JUST TO, TO TIE IT ALL BACK TOGETHER INTO EAST EDMOND 2050, YOU KNOW, EAST EDMOND 2050 IDENTIFIES EDUCATION AS A TOP FIVE RESPONSE TO ENSURE AN EAST EDMOND DEVELOPS IN A WAY THAT ENHANCES QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO IF WE PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, IF WE REZONE TO P U D IN A WAY THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH EAST EDMOND 2050, I THINK IT HAS A REAL KNOCK ON QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND SO I'M HOPING IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, THE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER IN MAKING SURE WE DON'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, MAKING SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE PRIOR TO APPROVING REZONING FOR THESE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR.

PLEASE COME DOWN, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN.

MY NAME IS MIKE HERNEY.

UM, I'M FROM HAMDEN HOLLOW.

AND, UH, MANY OF THE POINTS, ACTUALLY MOST OF THE POINTS THAT, UH, THE GEN GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME BROUGHT UP, I'M, I'VE GOT ON MY LIST TO RAISE TOO.

UM, ONE, ONE IS, IS, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH,

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A PERSONAL TO ME AND THAT IS MY SON-IN-LAW AND MY DAUGHTER AND MY ONLY GRANDSON WHO'S 18 MONTHS OLD, UM, WERE NEARLY STRUCK WHILE THEY WERE TRAVELING WESTBOUND BETWEEN THE EIGHT AND EIGHT 30 TIMEFRAME, WHICH IS A BUSY TIMEFRAME IN THE MORNING.

UH, MY DAUGHTER BRINGS MY GRANDSON OVER FOR HIM TOO, TO STAY WITH US.

AND, UH, SOMEBODY, I CAN ONLY GUESS THEY WERE PROBABLY IMPATIENT WHEN THEY GOT THROUGH AIR DEPOT AND COVELL AND THEY WERE TRAVELING EASTBOUND AND THEY, WE SHOULDN'T BE PASSING ON THAT BECAUSE OF THE HILLS ANYWAY, UH, BUT THIS INDIVIDUAL DID.

AND, UH, ANYWAYS, SO THE TRAFFIC CONCERN IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL.

UM, THE CORNER THERE AT COBELL AND AIR DEPOT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, THEY'RE THOSE LARGE RECYCLED TRUCKS THAT COME THROUGH THERE AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE A REAL WIDE SWATH.

AND SOMETIMES THE TRAFFIC IS, IS SO TIED UP THERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO TRY TO BACK UP IN ORDER TO ALLOW THESE TRUCKS TO GET THROUGH.

AND THAT'S JUST A MESS.

UM, UM, AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, TODD ADDRESSING, UM, THE, UH, THE PERMANENCE, UH, FOR THE 55 ACRES TO BE LEFT ALONE.

UM, I I BACK UP TO THE 55 ACRES AND I LOVE TO, TO WA TO LOOK AT THAT.

UM, HE MENTIONED BUNGALOW HEIGHTS AND HIGHLAND 55 BUNGALOW HEIGHTS IS A DEVELOPMENT AND, AND THAT PROPERTY, THOSE PROPERTIES THERE, THEY'RE ALL OWNED, THEY'RE NOT RENTED.

UH, AND HIGHLAND 55, HIGHLAND 55 IS A RETIREMENT VILLAGE.

THEY'VE GOT ALL THE AMENITIES THERE, EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE, THERE'S 72 UNITS ON THAT, ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUNGALOW HEIGHTS, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THERE.

THE 2.6, UH, THAT'S BEEN REFERRED TO, THAT TAKES ALL 75 ACRES FOR THOSE 200 UNITS TO GET THE 2.6.

UH, I THINK, UH, THE STAFF MEMBER EARLIER, CORRECTLY CHARACTERIZED THE DENSITY AS AS 10.

IF YOU GO TO 200 UNITS PER, UM, PER 20 ACRES, THAT WOULD BE 10 UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, AND THERE'S, THERE HASN'T, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHLAND OR THE 2050 EDMOND 2050 EAST, EAST EDMOND PROJECT OR PLAN DOES SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA FOR SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

IT ALSO DOES SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT TO PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE, THE WILD AND THE, THE AGRICULTURAL NATURE OF THE WILD NATURE OF THAT AREA.

AND, UH, I, I, WHILE THERE IS SOME TREES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY REMAIN.

WHEN I SAY REMAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE UNITS ARE, ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE AT.

THOSE HAVE TO BE CLEARED, BUT ALL THE WAY AROUND, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH SIDE, IF, IF THOSE, AS MUCH OF THOSE AS POSSIBLE CAN BE PRESERVED.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC IS JUST A BIG THING.

SURE.

PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE, UH, TO APPROVE THIS P U D, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S THAT TRAFFIC ISSUE THERE.

AND, UH, THERE'S, WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS, I JUST MOVED HERE IN 2018, NO, 2020, EXCUSE ME, RETIRED IN 2020, MOVED HERE IN 2020.

AND, UM, THERE'S BEEN FOUR SUBDIVISIONS, UH, BUILT.

ONE IN ONE ON MIDWEST BOULEVARD AND ONE ON AIR DEPOT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF COVELL.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON COVELL, ACTUALLY THERE'S TWO ON COVELL, UH, ALL HAVE ENTRANCES ONTO COVELL.

AND, UH, THE ONE AT MIDWEST BOULEVARD, UH, THAT SUBDIVISION, THEY COME DOWN COBEL TO GET TO I 35 CUZ IT'S THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET TO I 35.

SO YOU'VE GOT FOUR SUBDIVISIONS AND THE ONE, UH, COBEL RANCH, I BELIEVE IT IS, UH, THEY'RE STILL PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE TOGETHER SO THAT TRAFFIC HASN'T EVEN ENTERED YET.

UM, SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE TO APPROVE THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? YES SIR.

COME ON DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

THANK THIS REAL QUICK.

ED MOORE, UH, EDMOND NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE, MEMBERS OF THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

REAL QUICK, I THINK THAT THE, UH, STAKEHOLDERS

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IN THIS AREA HAVE MADE AN EXCELLENT, UH, POINT THAT THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA HAS SURPRISED THE CITY OF EDMOND AND IT HAS SURPRISED THE SCHOOLS.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IN EAST EDMOND, WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT IT.

AND WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE POINTED OUT WE'RE OVER URBAN DONATING, UH, THIS PART, THIS PART OF EDMOND.

AND, UH, SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, SAY IN MY COMPUTATIONS, IF YOU COUNT THE, JUST WHAT'S ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED.

YOU, YOU'RE DOING 12, 12 UNITS PER, UH, PER ACRE IN THIS, THIS AREA, WHICH IS REALLY COMPRESSED HOUSING.

AND I DIDN'T, I WASN'T SURE WHAT, IF I HEARD RIGHT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE 55 ACRES.

ARE WE GRANTING THAT TO THE LAND CONSERVATORY OR ARE WE DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT? I WASN'T SURE WHAT I HEARD ON, I'M TRYING TO HEAR IN THE BACK, BACK THERE.

BUT I THINK BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE OVER URBANIZING THIS AREA.

WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, PROCEEDING THE, THE PLANS, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, THE, THE, UH, OP UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE'RE PROCEEDING THE, UH, SCHOOLS AND, AND PROVEN THIS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? I DO, IF, IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

UM, I I DO, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S, THIS WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST SPOT WHERE, WHERE IT'S HAPPENED, WHERE DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

I, I DO KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BRING, WOULD OBVIOUSLY BRING MORE TRAFFIC, BUT SO DID COBO VALLEY AND, AND SO DID HAMMOND HOLLOW.

AND, AND SO I, I DO THINK COUNCIL, I I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO PLACE AN EMPHASIS ON, ON COVE AND, AND I THINK THE CITIZENS NEED TO NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE COMMUNICATED WITH THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS TO DO AROUND TOWN AND, AND THERE IS, THERE IS A PLAN FOR, FOR TRANSPORTATION.

UM, BUT WITH GROWTH COMES, UM, COMES MORE PROJECTS TO DO AND MORE THINGS TO, TO KEEP UP WITH.

SO I, I WISH THERE WAS A PERFECT, A PERFECT ANSWER TO BEING ABLE TO, TO COMPLETE ALL OF COBEL BEFOREHAND.

THEY GET TO DO THAT IN TEXAS, BUT THEY GET PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS AND SALES TAX DOLLARS IN TEXAS, WE DON'T, WE JUST GET SALES TAX MM-HMM.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAY IT IT'S IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT IS IT'S THE, IT'S THE GROWTH AND THEN THE GROWTH.

UM, THE GROWTH BRINGS MORE ECONOMY AND MORE SALES TAX REVENUE FROM, FROM RESIDENTS HERE THAT ARE BUYING GROCERIES AND, AND, AND SHOPPING IN EDMOND.

SO I I HAVE NO DOUBT THE IN IN ONE FORM OR THE OTHER THAT, THAT THE, THE MONEY'S GOING TO BE THERE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS ON COVELL.

SO, UM, IT, IT'LL COME AND WITH THE SCHOOLS AND WITH THE, WITH THE INTERSECTION.

BUT I DO, I, I, IF ANYTHING, I I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A FINE PROJECT.

I, YOU, YOU ALL KNOW THAT I, I I BELIEVE THAT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT OF, OF HOME IS, IS, IS WHAT WE NEED IN EDMOND FOR, UM, FOR, FOR RESIDENTS, FOR, FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, UH, IN EDMOND AND, AND WHO WANTS TO WORK HERE AND OR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, UH, OR EMPTY NESTERS.

IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT PRODUCT THAN WHAT'S THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO, TO IN, IN EAST EDMOND.

BUT I DO, UH, IF, IF I WERE TO SAY ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE KEEP AN EMPHASIS ON, UH, IMPROVING COVE AND, UH, AND, AND TRYING TO KEEP UP AS BEST AS WE CAN.

, JUST FOR A HISTORY LESSON, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, DECADES AGO, TWO DECADES AGO, I WANNA SAY THE STATE WAS GOING TO, WAS GOING TO EXPAND COVE FROM ALL THE WAY FROM THE EAST TO I 35.

AND THEN THEY BACKED OUT OF IT.

AND THEN THIS IN THE PAST DECADES, UP HERE ON COUNCIL, WE HAVE MA MADE IT OUR POINT TO, UH, TAKE PIECES BY PIECES OF COVE AND IMPROVE THEM AS WE CAN.

WE'VE, YOU LOOK AT, AND THEY'RE 10 TO 20 MILLION A POP, RIGHT? RIGHT.

THAT'S THE REASON.

LIKE TWO OR THREE, KELLY, KELLY AND COVELL.

, YOU LOOK AT, UH, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF SANTA FE AND COVE, UM, THERE'S

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WELL, KELLY AND COVELL WAS A MAJOR ONE.

, BUT I'M LIKE SANTA FE AND COVELL IS, IS A TEMPORARY YEAH.

LONG TERM TEMPORARY FIX.

BRIAN AND COVELL IS A LONG TERM TEMPORARY FIX MM-HMM.

AND IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO HERE AT AIR DEPOT AND COVELL? THEY CAN BE A TEMPORARY, A TEMPORARY FIX TO HELP WITH THE COAL AND COTA THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THERE AS WE GO FORWARD, BECAUSE, UM, UNTIL WE GET ANOTHER FUNDING MECHANISM, IT IT, IT'S A SLOW PROCESS.

, IT GETS IN LINE MM-HMM.

WITH THAT, THAT, AND THAT'S HOW I'M NOT SAYING I LIKE IT.

THAT'S HOW IT'S, IT'S HAPPENED IN, IN ALL OF EDMOND.

I THINK, AND I LIVE OUT IN THIS AREA, SO I SEE IT EVERY DAY.

THERE ARE PEAK PERIODS WHERE THERE'S TRAFFIC AT THE INTERSECTION FOR ABOUT 10 OR 15 MINUTES.

UM, AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS, IS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COST FACTOR TO DO MILE LONG SECTIONS OF ROAD.

UM, AND INITIALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THOSE FOR 15 MINUTES OF PEAK THAT'S REALLY AT THE INTERSECTION.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS DO WE IMPROVE COVELL THE ENTIRE STRETCH OR DO YOU IMPROVE INTERSECTIONS TO IMPROVE THE THROUGHPUT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE BACKUP BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME COVELL FUNCTIONS FINE, LOW, LOW TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE DAY.

UH, NOW COULD THERE BE SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ACTUAL STREET, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO WIDEN THE STREET BUT STILL GET THE THROUGHPUT? THAT'S THE QUESTION WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT.

ENGINEERING IS, I'M JUST USING THAT AS AIR DEPOT AND COVE'S EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TWO-LANE STREETS WITH THE WHOLE, WITHIN THE WHOLE CITY.

UM, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT A COST FACTOR IS ARE THERE IMPROVEMENTS TO GET THE THROUGHPUT WITHOUT HAVING TO, TO PAY 20 MILLION? SURE.

THE SAME TIME AS STAFF.

THE CHALLENGES IS, UM, IN, IN, I DON'T NEED TO ASK THIS CITY ATTORNEY DOES.

WE WOULD LOVE TO BE OUT AHEAD OF DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WOULD BE IF WE ALL HAD A CRYSTAL BALLS, LET'S GO IMPROVE A ROAD.

UM, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT FINE LINE AS YOU GO IMPROVE ROAD AND LET'S SAY DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T OCCUR.

NOW I HAVE A ROAD THAT VERSUS WHAT'S THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS A BALANCE THAT STAFF'S GONNA HAVE TO PLAY WITH.

AND PARTLY DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT SOMEWHAT FUNDS A LOT OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE EAST EDMOND AS FAR AS HOW DO YOU DO DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S A PUSH PULL ASPECT.

CAN BE ONE VERSUS THE OTHER.

IT'S INTERESTING ON THAT CUZ IT, I MEAN, AND, AND IT, I GET ASKED AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT WARD IS, IS COVE STILL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MASTER PLAN, THAT NORTHERN LOOP, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT SHOWS IT OUT TO POST AND THEN POST ROAD BEING THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE DOWN TO DOWN TO 66.

AND SO IT DOES, IT'S JUST ONLY NATURAL THAT DOING IT IN THESE PHASES, AND WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE THEY COST SO MUCH MONEY, UM, PEOPLE FORGET, PEOPLE THINK THE THE PLAN HAS GONE AWAY OR IT'S BEEN ABANDONED.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

IT'S JUST EACH TIME SOMETHING COMES, WE HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT AND, AND STICKING TO THE PLAN.

UM, AGAIN, I WISH, I WISH IT COULD ALL BE DONE AT ONE TIME MM-HMM.

, UM, BUT WE JUST, BUT WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT THAT WAY.

AND THEN THE, THE, THOSE ARE DIFFICULT INTERSECTIONS AND GETTING WORSE.

HOWEVER, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S IN THE PLAN, THEN THERE BECOMES ANOTHER INTERSECTION THAT'S ALREADY TERRIBLE, NUMBER ONE IN ACCIDENTS.

AND WE THINK, OKAY, WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THIS ONE FIRST.

WE KNOW DAN KELLY IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST AN OLD GUY SITTING BACK HERE.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN KIND OF SEE THE PROBLEM.

YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A VISION AND THE PEOPLE HAVE GOT A DIFFERENT VISION.

YOU WANT TO GROW AND YOU'RE MENTIONING, WE GOTTA GET MORE SALES TAX.

OH, WE GOT, SO WE GOTTA BUILD MORE OF THIS.

WE GOTTA BUILD MORE OF THAT.

WE GOTTA BUILD MORE.

AND WE'RE ALL SITTING BACK HERE SAYING, WHAT ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS? YOU MENTIONED, MA'AM.

OH, UH, THAT'S, UH, UH, TAXPAYERS PEOPLE PAY FOR THAT.

UH, HOMEOWNERS DO THAT.

NO THEY DON'T.

IT'S PROPERTY BECAUSE WE EXPAND.

YOU GOTTA EXPAND YOUR FIRE, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL OF THOSE YOU GOTTA BE BUILT IN.

THAT AFFECTS US.

SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOLS, EDMOND, YOU ALL PAY FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE.

OKAY? YOU PAY FOR THAT.

FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE, THAT MEANS EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT.

SO THERE'S A PROBLEM.

AND THE PROBLEM IS YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENT VISION THAN THE PEOPLE HAVE A VISION.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT TO ME.

AT THE BE 5 34 HOURS AGO, WE ROLLED IN HERE WITH THE EDMOND NORTH BASKETBALL TEAM AND THE SWIMMING TEAM.

THANKS.

MENTION ONE THING REAL QUICK AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE, UH, WHENEVER I HEAR COMMENTS LIKE THAT, IT DRIVES ME BONKERS BECAUSE

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AND I THINK TO MYSELF, WHEN DID WE DECIDE NOT TO GROW 1994? BEFORE WE HAD THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, 2014 BEFORE WE HAD THE MAX SWIM COMPLEX.

I WAS AT A FUNERAL LAST WEEK OF KATHY THOMAS.

HER AND HER HUSBAND MOVED TO EDMOND IN 1959 AND THEY MOVED TO SOUTH RINCON, WHICH WAS BASICALLY WHERE THE CENTRAL MIDDLE SCHOOL IS.

AND IF BOB AND KATHY THOMAS HAD THAT MENTALITY, THEN NOBODY WOULD BE HERE.

SO I DON'T CARE TO GET AN ARGUMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, BUT WHAT I WANT SAY IS IT'S LUDICROUS TO SAY THERE'S NOT A VISION FOR GROWTH BECAUSE DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO 1997 WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART WAS A TRAILER PARK AT SECOND BRYANT, WE GET RID OF THE TARGET, GET RID OF ONE OF THE SAMS, GET RID OF ONE OF THE, BOTH THE LOWE'S.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT ALLOWS US TO DONATE Y'ALL TO BUY LAND AT 15TH AND BRYANT FOR A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED WITHOUT THE ECONOMIC ABILITY TO DO THAT.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY SALES TAX TO DO THAT.

SO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS OUT HERE, AND WE KNOW THAT COVA ROAD WAS A TWO-LANE ROAD WHEN FAIRFAX WAS PUT IN AND AUGUSTA FARMS WAS PUT IN, AND THE NORTH SIDE OF FAIR CLOUD WAS PUT IN BECAUSE I DID THE ZONING AT CO AND KELLY IN 2005.

AND THE IDEA WAS WE'LL PAY FOR THE I 35 AND CO AND KELLY, THEY WILL DRIVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS OF COVE.

AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM.

IT NEVER HAS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO NOW.

SO IT'S OKAY FOR 175 HOMES IN HAMPTON HOLLOW TO BE BUILT, OR 224 HOMES TO BE BUILT IN COVE VALLEY.

BUT THE REASON IT'S NOT GONNA BE GARDENSIDE APARTMENTS IS BECAUSE THE ADMIN PLAN 2018 SAYS NO.

IT SAYS TOWNHOMES AND QUADRAPLEXES AND DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES.

AND IF I CAME IN WITH A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T FIT THAT SOMEONE WOULD BRING THAT UP.

SO MY CLIENTS OWNED THE LAND FOR EIGHT YEARS AND THEY'VE DEVELOPED IN EDMOND AND CONTRIBUTED TO A QUALITY OF LIFE OF EDMOND.

AND NOW THEY HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S FULLY COMPLIANT WITH EDMOND 2018 AND THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENT VISION.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

THE 2018 PLANT HAD THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF TIME AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE'S TIME AND INPUT INTO THE PROCESS.

SO TO SAY THAT THERE'S SOMEHOW A DISCONNECT, I JUST, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, DISAGREE, AND I DON'T NEED TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE ANY FURTHER.

BUT THERE'S NO EXAMPLE OF THE HISTORY OF EDMOND THAT SUPPORTS THAT MENTALITY.

AND IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.

THE U L I SAID THERE, THEY 20,000 PEOPLE DRIVE INTO EDMOND EVERY DAY TO GO TO WORK.

20,000 PEOPLE DRIVE INTO HERE TO GO TO WORK.

ONE BECAUSE THEY WANNA LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE OR THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN HERE, BUT THEY WANT TO BE IN HERE.

SO THE IDEA THAT THERE'S SOME VISION OF SHUT DOWN THE CITY AND STOP THE GROWTH IS RIDICULOUS.

AND MY CLIENTS INVEST IN THIS TOWN AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THE PLACE THAT WE ALL WANT TO LIVE.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH ANYBODY ABOUT THAT AT ANY TIME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

CAN I HAVE COUNTER? NO, WE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH ALL, ALL THE COUNT.

COUNCIL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? I'M SORRY, SIR.

WOULD YOU, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS MIKE HERNEY.

UH, I LIVE IN HAMDEN HOLLOW.

UM, THE COBELL ENTRANCE ONTO I 35 IS, IS A, IS A GREAT ENTRANCE ONTO I 35.

THAT'S WHY IT'S, THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC THERE.

WATERLOO, UM, IS A HORRIBLE ENTRANCE ON I 35 AND DANFORTH IS, UH, PROBABLY WORSE THAN WATERLOO.

SO ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC GOES DOWN, COBELL.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR ODOT PROJECTS.

NO, GO AHEAD.

AND SIR, WE HAVE ODOT PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA, UH, ADDRESS WATERLOO, WATERLOO, WATERLOO, COLL AND COLL.

SO WE'RE COMING? MM-HMM.

, IT'S COMING.

IT'S, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

THANKS, COUNSEL.

MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.

THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OR IN PERSON BY THE START OF THE MEETING.

ADAM.

PASS.

I GOTTA GET MY SCRIPT.

IT'S SO LATE, I SHOULDN'T TALK.

NOW WE'RE MOVING THE CITIZENS

[10. Citizens Comments - (This is an opportunity for citizens, both resident and non-resident, to address the City Council on city related matters not on the council agenda. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. Remarks should be directed to City Council as a whole and limited to three minutes or less.)]

COMMENT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS, BOTH RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON UNRELATED CITY ITEMS. UH, NOT ON THE, UH, COUNCIL AGENDA.

CITIZENS MUST SIGN IN UP TO SPEAK EITHER ONLINE BY 3:00 PM

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REMARK SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.

WE HAVE ONE RESIDENT, LEONARD SCOTT, I'M THE TIMER.

YES SIR.

I'M NOT STARTING YET, BROTHER.

I SAYS, HEY, HOLD ON.

I JUST, I I JUST SAID I'M THE TIMER.

AND WHERE IS THE TIMER? THE PEOPLE'S TIMER.

SO WE CAN SEE THE HECK'S GOING ON.

WHERE IS IT YET? WE HADN'T GOT IT.

OKAY, I'M GONNA START THIS.

ELECTED SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE.

LEONARD SCOTT, BY THE WAY, SERIAL DIDN'T GET THAT INTO YOU LAST TIME, LAST WEEK, UH, LAST MEETING WE SAT HERE.

I HAD A GROUP.

WE CAME UP WAS FOURTH MAJOR ITEMS WE WANNA BRING UP.

AND I'M JUST GONNA MAKE IT REAL QUICK.

NUMBER ONE, WE ASK FOR AN EXPLANATION OF WHY YOU TOOK OUT NEW BUSINESS.

WE G NEVER GOT AN EXPLANATION.

OKAY? NEXT ONE.

WE REQUESTED AMERICAN FLAGS TO BE PLACED ON ALL CITY VEHICLES.

OKAY? NUMBER THREE, WE REQUESTED THE PURPLE HEART SYSTEM.

YOU ALL GOT A PLAQUE FOR IT.

YOU SAY YOU'RE YOUR PURPLE HEART CITY, BUT THERE'S NO PURPLE HEART SIGNS.

WE GOT THAT.

NUMBER FOUR, WE REQUESTED AN ARROW, UH, EDMUND HERO CARD FOR ALL VETERANS, POLICE OFFICERS, FIRE COMPARTMENT, AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE ELECTRIC AND WATERWORKS.

WHO ARE THE HEROES THAT ARE OUT THERE? FIRST RESPONDERS.

OKAY, WE BROUGHT ALL OF THOSE UP.

NOBODY RESPONDED TO ME FROM THIS COUNCIL.

NOBODY ABOUT IT.

THIS IS CITIZENS.

NOW WE HAVE A GROUP.

WE'VE BROUGHT THIS UP TO YOU.

WE MADE A REQUEST.

NOT ONE OF YOU.

WE SENT A LETTER OUT WITH IT.

NOT ONE OF YOU RESPONDED TO IT.

AND IT'S NOT ON THE ASCE, UH, CITY AGENDA TODAY.

NONE.

OKAY? NOW I WOULD ASK WHY.

AGAIN, I COULD DO THAT.

BUT YOUR ANSWER'S GONNA BE, WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AGENDA BECAUSE OF .

OKAY, I'M A CITIZEN.

I COME UP HERE.

THESE PEOPLE BEHIND MY, MY FOLKS, WE MAKE REQUESTS.

YOU IGNORE US.

TOTALLY IGNORE US.

IF YOU DON'T TALK TO US, IT'S NOT AN AGENDA.

AND THEN I'M, I COME UP CITIZEN COMMENTS AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU, WHY ISN'T THIS ON HERE? AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR RESPONSE IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

IF THAT'S NOT A CATCH 22, WHAT IS, SO MY POINT IS SLOW IT DOWN.

THE POINT IS FOR CITIZENS, WHEN WE MAKE REQUESTS, AT LEAST YOU COULD DO IS CON WHAT WE HEARD YOU, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON IT.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE SILENT, YOU'RE TOTALLY SILENT.

YOU ARE IGNORING US.

WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE? BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING US.

OKAY? BUT YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING US WHEN YOU REMAIN SILENT.

SO I ASK YOU, SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE, AND THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR A NEW BUSINESS.

WHY? BECAUSE AT LEAST NEW BUSINESS, WE COULD STILL GET UP AND TALK, BUT YOU SHUT IT DOWN AND YOU HAVEN'T TOLD US WHY YOU SHUT IT DOWN.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM GUYS.

IT APPEARS, APPEARS THAT YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO US.

YOU IGNORE US.

AND WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO TALK TO YOU, OH, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS.

DON'T SEND THOSE COMMENTS OR THE APPEARANCE IS TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.

IT'S T****Y GUYS, WHEN YOU DO THAT TO US.

SO I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.

YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND START ASKING, ARE WE GONNA HAVE FLAGS ON CARS? ARE WE GONNA THINK ABOUT CAR? UH, PURPLE HEART SIGNS OUT THERE, NOBODY TELLS ME.

SO YOU'RE IGNORING ME AND YOU'RE IGNORING THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE REPRESENTED, WHICH IS THE VETERANS OF THIS TOWN WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PURPLE HEART PARKING POTS.

COUNCILMAN, WHAT'S THE NEXT IT? AGENDA ITEM? COUNCIL COMMENTS? COUNCIL COMMENTS.

[11. Comments from Mayor and City Councilmembers.]

WELL, WE'VE HAD THE BIG THING FOR ALL OF OUR EVAN NORTH.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS INCREDIBLE.

UM, WE JUST THINK WE HAVE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE ALL DOING GOOD THINGS.

IT, IT JUST NORTH.

IT HAD TO TRIFECTA THERE BACK TO BACK.

SO, UH, WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD TO TRY TO DOING MORE OF THAT FOR ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO GET, GET THEM RECOGNITION.

UH, WE HAD HEARD ON HERD LAST WEEK AND RIGHT.

AND THEN VIBES COMES UP.

SO WE'RE STARTING THE SPRING SEASON NEXT WEEK.

I JUST TELL EVERYBODY WITH ALL THE, UM, BAD TORNADIC ACTIVITY, IT'S ALREADY HIT THE COUNTRY TO TELL THE CITIZENS.

START GETTING YOURSELF PREPARED.

UH, HOPEFULLY OUR DAY KEEPS PASSING, BUT IT MIGHT COME.

ANYTHING ELSE? COUNSEL, JUST WANT TO PUT IN A PLUG.

UM, THE PACKET, UM, IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.

UM, AND IF YOU CAN'T GET ONLINE, MAYBE YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP YOU DOWNLOAD

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THAT PDF.

BUT IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF REALLY IMPORTANT BACKUP INFORMATION THAT IS ALL OUT THERE, PUBLIC RECORD.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO, TO SEARCH THAT OUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.