* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call to Order.] [00:00:06] GOOD AFTERNOON. WE'RE HERE FOR THIS SPECIAL MEETING TODAY FOR THE, UH, BUDGET HEARING OF FY 24. THIS IS ONE. WE HAVE A FEW MORE, BUT WE, THE GOAL IS FOR FINAL ADOPTION, UH, BY THE JUNE 12TH MEETING OF THIS YEAR. SO WE'VE BEEN GOING RIGHT ALONG. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL SHORTER WORKSHOPS, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. AND [2. Presentation and Discussion of Preliminary Budget & Financial Plan for Fiscal Year 2023-2024.] I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR HONORABLE CITY MANAGER TO KICK IT OFF FOR US. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNSEL. UH, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, LIKE EIGHT OR NINE WORKSHOPS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST ABOUT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT FUNDS. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF THE, I'LL CALL IT COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET DISCUSSION. KATHY PANIS IS GONNA EAT US OFF WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE, THERE'LL BE OTHER MEMBERS IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS WE HAVE DEPARTMENT MANAGERS FROM EACH OF THE MAJOR DEPARTMENTS HERE. IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS WE GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE SLIDES, FEEL FREE TO STOP US AND ASK US QUESTIONS. THIS IS MEANT TO PROMPT DISCUSSIONS, FEEDBACK COMMENTS. AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET HEARING ON THE 12TH. UM, SO THIS IS OUR EFFORT TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS FOR THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO, WE'LL, MAYOR, IF IT'S FINE, WE'LL KICK IT OFF WITH KATHY AND RIGHT AHEAD. WELCOME. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILMAN MOORE AND COUNCILMAN ROBBINS, AND TO THE, THE OLD CREW. YOU'RE GONNA CLOSER TO THAT. OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? HOW ABOUT THIS? THAT MATTER. OKAY. I'LL BE RIGHT. I DON'T WANT ANY ZEROS TO DROP OFF. . WELL, I ONLY, I SPEAK IN MILLIONS, SO JUST ADD THREE OR SIX. OKAY. SO, UH, WELCOME AND, UM, WE'RE HERE AGAIN FOR ANOTHER BUDGET REVIEW. AND LIKE, UH, MR. RIGBY SAID IT'S GOING TO BE OUR INITIAL LOOK AT IT. UM, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JUST PLEASE JUST STOP ME, UM, AND WE CAN GO INTO IT FURTHER. UH, ALL OF OUR, OR A LOT OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE HERE THAT TODAY. AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON A SPECIFIC FUND, WE CAN GET THEM, UH, TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BETTER TOO. SO I'LL BE PRESENTING, UH, THE FIRST PORTION OF IT, LISA, GOOD PASTURE, OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE WILL, OR EXCUSE ME, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. WE'LL, UH, ADDRESS THE HR ISSUES. AND THEN ANDY CONY, YOURS WILL SPEAK TO, UH, CONSTRUCTION IN PROGRESS OR OUR CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT PRO PROJECTS. SO ANYWAY, WE'LL JUST GET GOING HERE. AND LIKE, UM, MR. RIGBY SAID WE HAVE HAD 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 WORKSHOPS ALREADY, AND THEY REALLY DID DELVE INTO A LOT OF THINGS. UH, WE STARTED BACK IN FEBRUARY THOUGH, SO A LOT OF THINGS CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. AND, UM, KIND OF KEEP IN MIND, ANYTIME YOU DO A BUDGET, IT'S, IT'S AN ESTIMATE. YOU'RE ESTIMATING AND TRYING TO GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR. THE YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE BASING THIS BUDGET ON FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 IS BASED ON FISCAL YEAR 23, AND IT HASN'T FINISHED YET. SO, UM, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW OUR, OUR ACTUALS AND WON'T UNTIL ABOUT NEXT DECEMBER. BUT WE'VE HAD, UH, PRO HAD, WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGETS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGETS, COMMUNITY AGENCY RISK VIEW. SO THOSE ARE OUR, UH, NON-PROFITS, UH, BUILDING PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING PLANNING, UTILITIES, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY VISIT EDMOND, UH, REGIONAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY, WHICH ACTUALLY IS NOT ONE OF OUR FUNDS, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FUND, UH, PARK AND RECREATIONS. AND THEN MOST RECENTLY IT WAS SOLID WASTE AND FEE CHANGES. AND I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN ROBERTS AND COUNCILMAN MOORE, YOU WERE AT THAT ONE. RIGHT? SO THAT WAS YOUR FIRST EXPERIENCE. UM, SO REALLY ALL I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS TODAY IS REVIEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST BUDGET BASICS AND KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE HAVE, IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT FUND BALANCES. SO I'M GONNA TRY AND EXPLAIN THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT, SO MAYBE YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. REVIEW OUR FISCAL YEAR, 22, 23 BUDGET, AND THEN LOOK AT OUR PRO, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 24. WE AREN'T, I DO HAVE DEPARTMENTAL HIGHLIGHTS, BUT IT'S NOT ALL DEPARTMENTS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ON, PLEASE ASK. WE CAN, WE CAN FIND IT AND LET YOU KNOW. AND THEN LISA WILL PRESENT AND ANDY WILL PRESENT. SO BASICALLY, I JUST KINDA WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW WE'RE ACTUALLY, HERE WE ARE IN MAY, JUNE 30TH IS OUR FISCAL YEAR END. IT'S OUR BUDGET DUE DATE. AND, UM, WELL, IT'S THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL START OUR FINANCIALS. THAT WILL BE FINISHED IN DECEMBER. BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO GET OUR BUDGET TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND, UM, THAT IS DUE TO THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE [00:05:01] BY JULY 31ST. SO WE WILL, THIS IS OUR INITIAL, AND WE CAN, WE CAN REFINE IT. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, WE CAN WORK THEM INTO IT. SO DURING THE YEAR BETWEEN, SO BETWEEN JANUARY AND JUNE, WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON BUDGET. BETWEEN JUNE AND DECEMBER, WE'RE WORKING ON CONSOLIDATED FINANCIALS AND OUR AUDITED FINANCIALS. SO WE HAVE 72 FUNDS THAT WE ACTUALLY REPORT ON. THERE ARE SIX DIVISIONS, GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL REVENUE, CAPITAL PROJECTS, UTILITIES, OTHER ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. SO THE GENERAL FUND IS, AS YOU SUSPECT, IT'S FOR GENERAL USE, IT'S JUST GENERALLY RUNNING THE CITY. THINGS THAT YOU NEED FOR THAT, LIKE THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE SENIOR CENTER, THAT KIND OF THING. SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS ARE, ARE BASICALLY DESIGNATED THINGS, AND IT'S, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY MADE UP OF JUST POLICE AND FIRE. BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS IN IT, LIKE A HOSPITAL TRUST. I BELIEVE OUR, UH, WE HAVE SOME OPIOID FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. WE HAVE ARPA FUNDS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, GETTING SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, CAPITAL PROJECTS. THERE IS A DEDICATED SALES TAX FOR THAT. AND THE TWO LARGE ONES WE HAVE ARE OUR 2000 CIP P FUND AND OUR, UH, 2017 CIP P FUND. THEN OUR UTILITY FUNDS ARE OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT BASICALLY RUN MORE LIKE A BUSINESS. SO NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A PROFIT MOTIVE, BUT THEY DO HAVE A BREAKEVEN, UH, MOTIVE. THEY SHOULD COVER THEMSELVES. THE OTHER ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WE HAVE THREE OF THEM. IT'S GOLF, CITYLINK, AND, UH, YOUR GOV SHOP. AND IF ANYBODY'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR GOV SHOP, IT'S A CO-OP THAT OUR CITY PARTICIPATES IN AND OTHER CITIES CAN BUY FROM OUR CATALOG THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. AND THEN INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS ARE, ARE OVERHEAD DEPARTMENTS LIKE MINE. UM, SO FUND BALANCES COME INTO PLAY. UM, A FUND BALANCE IS ACTUALLY FOR SHORTFALLS AND EMERGENCIES. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN FUND BALANCES. ALL OF THE VARIOUS FUNDS DO HAVE FUND BALANCES. AND PARTICULARLY LIKE FOR INSTANCE, IN OUR E P W A FUNDS, UM, THOSE GUYS ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT WATCHING WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE TO REPLACE, YOU KNOW, WATER LINES, UH, ELECTRIC LINES AND ALL OF THAT TYPE OF THING. UM, SO THERE REALLY ARE THERE FOR EMERGENCIES AND SHORTFALLS AND ALSO THINGS THAT YOU PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. UH, THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUND BALANCES. RESTRICTED FUND BALANCES ARE, THOSE ARE RESTRICTED BY LAW, AND IT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE GRANTS OR OUR OPIOIDS OR OUR ARPA, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THOSE ARE RESTRICTED, COMMITTED FUNDS ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES FORMAL FORMAL ACTION ON. ONE THING I COULD THINK OF IS LIKE YOUR, UH, CONTINGENCY FUND, THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR. UM, ASSIGNED FUNDS OR FUND BALANCES ARE, UH, REALLY BY CITY STAFF DESIGNATED VERSUS A COUNCIL UNASSIGNED IS JUST WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO, UH, USE FOR YOUR EMERGENCIES AND YOUR DOWNTURNS. AND THEN THERE'S SOME NONS SPENDABLE THINGS WHICH ARE NON-LIQUID. THINGS LIKE FIXED ASSETS ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE. AND THEN ONE THING I DO WANNA POINT OUT, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE THE TYPE THAT WERE TO LOOK AT OUR CONSOLIDATED FINANCIALS VERSUS OUR BUDGET, THE FUND BALANCES IN THOSE TWO TYPES OF DOCUMENTS WILL NOT BE THE SAME. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OUR BUDGETED FUND BALANCES ARE SPENDABLE. SO THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE NON NONS SPENDABLE THINGS LIKE FIXED ASSETS. SO YOU HAVE A FLOW OF FUNDS AND YOU BASICALLY HAVE FIVE THINGS TO PICK FROM AN ASSET, A LIABILITY, YOUR FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS RESERVES OR CAPITAL. IN THE CORPORATE WORLD, IT WOULD BE A CAPITAL, UH, RESOURCES AND EXPENDITURES. SO ASSETS ARE THINGS LIKE THEY'RE VERY LIQUID. CASH IS THE MOST LIQUID INVESTMENTS BEING AT THE NEXT LIQUID, ALL THE WAY TO FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T LIQUIDATE, SO YOU CAN'T SPEND IT. LIABILITIES, OF COURSE, ANYTHING THAT YOU OWE. SO IT'S ANYTHING FROM OUR, OUR LOAN, OUR OUR BOND LOAN PAYMENTS TO OUR, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES. KATHY, IS THERE A, UM, A UNIFORM WAY THAT EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDS THAT YOU MENTIONED FOR BALANCES ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED, ARE THOSE UNIFORMLY REPORTED OR ARE THOSE LABELED SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR CLASSIFIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT? LIKE IN THE BUDGET THAN THE BUDGET BOOK OR IN GENERAL? YEAH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE OUR, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET SUMMARIES. AND I'M TRYING TO FIND 'EM LISTED UNDER THERE. I DON'T SEE 'EM LISTED HERE. LIKE WHERE DO THEY, WHERE DO THEY SHOW UP? GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT HAPPENS IS, FOR INSTANCE, YOUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, THEY ALL GET REPORTED AS RESTRICTED BECAUSE POLICE FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED TO POLICE ONLY, RIGHT? SO YOU MIGHT THINK, OH, THEY WOULD HAVE UNRESTRICTED FUNDS, BUT THEY'RE ALL RESTRICTED TO THE POLICE, THE UNRESTRICTED GEN. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT [00:10:01] THAT FRONT BUDGET SUMMARY, AND I DON'T KNOW, JANE, YOU WANNA SHOW IT , IT'S THE VERY FIRST PAGE. UM, WE'LL KIND OF FLIP IT UP HERE SO WE CAN HAVE A VISUAL ON IT. BUT YOU DO SEE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS AND THAT IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY, WE CAN SURE WORK ON IT. BUT, UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION WAS, IS IT THAT ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? UH, SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM THERE WHEN I TALK ABOUT FUND BALANCES, UH, YEAH, KEEP GOING. THERE WE GO. SO RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FUND BALANCES AND IT'S LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A CAPITAL RESERVE. AND SO LIKE THIS PARTICULAR FORMAT THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A VERY LONG TIME SAYS, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTED FOR SPECIFIC FUND PURPOSES. SO I'M, THERE'S, AND THAT'S THE SPECIAL REVENUE. SO THAT'S GONNA BE POLICE AND FIRE. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? I CAN'T READ THE PAGE IN ONE. OH, THIS IS A, UM, I MEAN I'M IN THE SUMMARY, BUT WHAT, OH, I'M SORRY. IT SHOULD BE THE VERY FIRST PAGE. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'RE GONNA START, AND THIS IS, THIS IS JUST FISCAL YEAR 24, BUT WHEN WE REALLY DO OUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FUN BALANCE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE AND IT'S GONNA CARRY UP TO THE NEXT YEAR. AND IT'S GONNA CARRY THE SAME PLACE THAT IT IS HERE. SO LIKE YOU CAN SEE RESERVE FOR COUNCIL SPECIAL PROJECTS, THAT'S ACTUALLY A COMMITTED FUND. UM, YOU SEE, YEAH, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS DO WE GET A BREAKOUT OF DEPARTMENT X HAS, YOU KNOW, UH, SO MANY DOLLARS IN THEIR FUND BALANCES, UNASSIGNED OR ASSIGNED? DO WE GET A BREAKOUT OF WHAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO AND UNASSIGNED TO? I GUESS WE GENERALLY DON'T. WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT, BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT LIKE IN OUR BUDGET BOOK. LIKE YOU MEAN LIKE LINE BY LINE? LIKE YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC OBVIOUSLY THAT DEPARTMENTS HAVE CONTINGENCIES FOR SHORTFALLS IN ECONOMY CUZ SALES TAXES VARIABLE AND WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT IMPACTS AROUND THAT OR OH EIGHT OR COVID OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. BUT, UM, UNDERSTANDING FROM A CITY COUNSELOR PERSPECTIVE, OKAY, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE FUNDS THAT YOU'VE SET ASIDE NOW WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR THOSE FUNDS, RIGHT? UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LINING UP WITH, UM, WHAT THE FUNDS, UH, THE INTENDED USE OF THE FUND IS. UH, MAYBE THEY'VE GOTTEN DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL, MAYBE IT'S AN INTERNAL DEPARTMENT DECISION THAT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, OUTWEIGH A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE X I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INTENT IS OF THE MONEY AND IF WE AGREE WITH THE INTENT OVERALL AS FAR AS THE, THE SPEND OR IF THERE'S NOT A HIGHER PURPOSE THAT WE'D WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT DIRECTING IT TOWARDS EACH DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE THAT. UM, IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET BOOK, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR YOU. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE AS WELL. OKAY. BECAUSE, UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT COUNCILMAN ROBINS MENTIONED. UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, AND THERE ARE PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE DRAWING FROM DIFFERENT SPACES, UM, AND I KNOW RECENTLY THERE WAS A FIRE, UH, EXPENDITURE THAT DID COME FROM RESERVE AND SO, OR FROM THE, THE FUND BALANCE, BUT I THINK IT HELPS US BETTER MAKE DECISIONS TOO BECAUSE IF WE SEE A NUMBER AND I'LL JUST MAKE IT UP 300,000 FOR, YOU KNOW, UNASSIGNED X, Y, Z UNDER DEPARTMENT Y, UM, THERE MIGHT BE A GREAT DEDICATED PURPOSE THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT, EXPLAINED THAT SCOTT KNOWS WE'RE ON BOARD. UH, OR IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, HEY, WE THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED THIS OR WE THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS WANTED US TO DO THIS. AND SO IF I JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER, I DON'T HAVE THAT CONTEXT. SURE. SO WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO THAT BUDGET BOOK, PULL OUT THAT CONTEXT. YEAH, YEAH. WE CAN PULL THAT TOGETHER. YEAH, WE CAN, WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT BUDGET DETAIL. WE CAN DO THAT, UH, FOR EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENTS OR DIVISIONS OR SPECIAL FUNDS. WE DIDN'T WANT TO, WE JUST DIDN'T THINK YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE THAT THIS AFTERNOON. WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE, NOT NECESSARILY THIS AFTERNOON. YEAH. BUT I, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING I'VE ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY AND HA AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE UPDATED EVERY MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM. , BUT I MEAN SEMI-ANNUALLY SURE. SEE WHAT THOSE RESERVE FUNDS ARE AND IF THERE IS A BREAKOUT BETWEEN RESTRICTED AND UNRESTRICTED UNRESTRICTED, THAT'D BE HELPFUL. AND OFTEN THAT BUDGET DETAIL, WHAT WE'LL SHOW IS, LET'S SAY IT'S A MID-YEAR UPDATE, WE'LL SAY, HEY, YOU SHOULD BE AT 50% OF YOUR EXPENDITURES, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT 65. THAT MAY BE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO DO A PURCHASE EARLIER THAN ANTICIPATED, BUT IT'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW ARE WE TRACKING OR ARE WE LOOKING LIKE WE'RE GONNA RUN UNDER OR OVER? UM, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT DETAIL. YEAH. CUZ SOMETIMES I GUESS IT'S BUDGETED TO USE SOME OF THOSE RESERVES. OTHER TIMES IT'S NOT. THEN ADDITIONAL PROJECTS COME UP, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE IN RESERVE AND IF THAT'S THE BEST PLACE THAT MAYBE IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO COME FROM OR IF IT NEEDS TO COME FROM RESERVE. YEAH. SO, AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE DOING IS WE UPDATE OUR AGENDAS, THE ACTUALLY AGENDA REPORT [00:15:01] FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM. IT'LL NOT ONLY SHOW, HEY, WE'RE DOING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, WHATEVER, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL NOW START TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU HAVE X AMOUNT IN THAT FUND, UM, AND THAT WHAT'S REMAINING IF YOU WERE TO MAKE THAT ALLOCATION OR NOT MAKE THAT ALLOCATION. SO YOU CAN SAY, HEY, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 300,000 LEFT EVEN AFTER THIS APPROPRIATION, OR YOU WILL BE 20% OVER AND, AND THEN DO SOMETHING. MM-HMM. . WE CAN, WE CAN, THAT'D BE SUPER HELPFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT. OKAY. THANKS JANE. OKAY. SO, UM, SO THAT'S A FUN BALANCE AND IT IS A, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE. IT IT IS A LARGE NUMBER IN SOME FUNDS AND IT'S NEGATIVE AND OTHERS NOT, NOT NEGATIVE, BUT, UM, INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF, UM, REVENUE. SO THEIRS IS ALL EXPENSE . BUT UM, BASICALLY THEN WHAT WE LOOK AT IN A BUDGET EVERY YEAR ARE REALLY THE RESOURCES AND THE EXPENDITURES IS BETTER KNOWN AS A PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT. AND WHATEVER YOU'RE OVER OR UNDER EVERY YEAR IS WHAT FLOWS INTO YOUR FUND BALANCE. SO, UM, BUT RESOURCES ARE EVERYTHING. IT'S REVENUES, LOANS, GRANTS, IT DOES INCLUDE PRIOR YEAR RESEARCH OR RESERVES AS WELL. AND THEN EXPENDITURES ARE OBVIOUSLY EVERY, ALL THE EXP EXPENSE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE. UM, SO THIS YEAR, UM, WE HAD THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN FINANCE AND UM, H HR HAS HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS AND WE HAVE TRIED TO PUT SOME PARAMETERS IN PLACE AND IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR OUR PERFORMER WHERE, UH, CRAWFORD AND ASSOCIATES COMES AND SPEAKS EVERY YEAR. BUT IT IS A SUGGESTED MINIMUM TO KEEP UNRESTRICTED RESERVES OF 10% IN IN FUND IN THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. FRANK CRAWFORD ACTUALLY SUGGESTS 30%, BUT WE PROBABLY WILL NEVER KEEP QUITE QUITE THAT MUCH. BUT I'M, I'M SOLD ON THAT NOW BECAUSE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WE HAD A 12 MILLION ICE STORM AND IT PRETTY MUCH WIPED OUT OUR, OUR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE IN OUR, IN OUR GENERAL FUND. SO, UM, YAY. WE DID GET OUR, OUR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT JUST WHAT, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO WE ARE BACK, WE ARE BACK IN IN WHERE WE SHOULD BE NOW. SO, UM, SO KATHY, DOES THAT REPRESENT THE 11.5 MILLION? WOULD THAT BE IF WE TOOK EVERY DEPARTMENT'S UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE AND PUT IT TOGETHER OR IS THAT A SEPARATE POT? IT'S GENERAL FUND ONLY SAYS WE HAVE THIS AVAILABLE IN RESERVE FOR EMERGENCY. IT'S GENERAL FUND ONLY OWN UNRESTRICTED THING NOT TIED TO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. ANY PURPOSE IT RIGHT. IT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND. SO WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S IN A GENERAL FUND, YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE THAT MONEY FOR ANYTHING. MM-HMM. WHERE I COULDN'T USE POLICE FUNDS OR I COULDN'T USE FIRE FUNDS. SO GENERAL FUND IS AVAILABLE FOR ALL GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEN IF SOMEBODY NEEDS SOME HELP, UM, WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS AS WELL. SO A PERIMETER THAT WE HAVE IS, WE REALLY ARE GONNA TRY AND MAINTAIN THIS 10% AND WE'RE JUST RIGHT AT IT RIGHT NOW. SO, BUT IT'S GENERAL FUND ONLY AND YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE OUT OF GENERAL FUND THAT'S RESTRICTED. UM, AND ACTUALLY LIKE CITY, CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET IS IN GENERAL FUND. SO LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT BUDGET SUMMARY, YOU SEE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF COMMITTED, WE TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS OUT AND THEN THIS IS WHAT'S LEFT OVER. SO YES, IT'S UNDESIGNATED RIGHT NOW ON WHAT WE WOULD SPEND IT ON. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE, WE ARE SETTING AS A PARAMETER IS, UH, FOR MANY YEARS THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED A TRANSFER TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE GENERAL FUND. UM, IT'S BEEN AS HIGH AS 6 MILLION AND THIS IS JUST ON TOP OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FEES THAT THEY PAY TO, TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT UM, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT AT 4 MILLION. SO THEY WERE NOT TAKING MORE MONEY FROM UTILITIES THAN 4 MILLION A YEAR. UM, SO THOSE ARE REALLY OUR TWO PARAMETERS ON OUR GENERAL FUND. WELL, ON GENERAL FUND AND THEN JUST NOT BORROWING MORE OR OR TAKING MORE THAN 4 MILLION A YEAR FROM ELECTRIC. SO, KATHY, LET ME, LET ME JUMP IN FOR A SECOND. SO LAST YEAR, YES. I THINK WE WERE LIKE 1% OF OUR FUND BALANCE WHEN WE WERE NEGATIVE THE YEAR BEFORE. YES. BECAUSE OF THE ICE STORM. UM, ACTUALLY COUNCIL TOOK A POLICY DIRECTION SEVERAL YEARS BACK TO SET FUND BALANCES. THE GOAL IS TO BE AT 10%. SO WE REESTABLISH THAT WITH, WE'RE GONNA REPLENISH THAT WITH THE, UM, FEMA OF PAYMENT THAT GETS US ABOVE THE 10%. OUR GOAL NOW IS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, I CALL OUR TWO GUARDRAILS AS WE START TO BUILD OUR BUDGETS WILL BE KEEP THE 10% FUND BALANCE. AND THAT'S GONNA FLUCTUATE BASED ON WHAT REVENUES ARE COMING INTO THE CITY. AND THEN TAKING NO MORE THAN 4 MILLION PER ADMIN ELECTRIC. YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, WE'VE HAD TO DO SOME, [00:20:01] UH, TAKE DOLLARS FROM RESERVE FUND AND EDMOND ELECTRIC TO MAKE SURE FOR WHOLESALE WE DON'T WANT TO, I'LL CALL IT ROB EDMOND ELECTRIC, I'LL CALL IT TO REPLENISH GENERAL FUND. AND THEN IN THE INDIRECT IMPACT MAYBE IS THEY MAY HAVE OTHER PRICE SPIKES WHERE IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE RE RESERVES, OKAY THOSE ARE FUNDED BY REVENUE, BY UH, RATES. SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT AS INTACT AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THOSE PARAMETERS AND SO THAT PROVIDES US GUIDANCE AS WE BUILD THE BUDGETS IN EACH FOLLOWING YEAR. I'LL CALL IT. THAT'S OUR LOW, THAT'S OUR HIGH, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. AND SO WE'VE WORKED WITH DEPARTMENTS AND SAY YOU CAN SUGGEST ALL YOUR FUNDING REQUESTS, BUT THIS IS THE DOLLARS WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. NOT COUNTING IF YOU KNOW EDMOND ELECTRIC OR SOME OF OUR OTHER UTILITIES THAT HAVE THEIR, THEIR OWN ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHAT THEIR FUNDING IS FOR. SO THAT'S OUR, OUR DRIVING PARAMETERS NOW. YES. YEP. SO THE ASSUMPTIONS I USED GOING FORWARD THIS YEAR, IT'S, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THIS TRADITIONALLY, UM, AND BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC GROWING INTO INFLATION AND WE HAVE VERY LOW UNEMPLOYMENT STILL, IT'S JUST VERY QUESTIONABLE IF WE'LL END UP IN A RECESSION OR NOT. WE, IT'S JUST UNCERTAIN. SO, UM, WE USED A 2% SALES TAX GROWTH AND A 5% USE TAX GROWTH. OTHER GOVERNMENT SOURCES, WE'VE USED 1% GROWTH AND THEN ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE DONE SOME STUDIES THIS YEAR. UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE INCREASED TOTAL REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR ESTIMATED ON, ON INCREASING SOME OF OUR PERMITTING IN OUR FEES. SO THAT'S INCLUDED THIS YEAR AS WELL. AND THEN, UM, , THERE ARE DEFINITELY INCREASES IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR MOST OF OUR E P W A FUNDS BECAUSE THEY REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AHEAD ON ALL THE TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED. POLICE AND FIRE HAVE DONE THE SAME THING CUZ SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES THAT THEY NEED ARE, IT'S A TWO YEAR WAIT BEFORE WE CAN GET IT. SO IT'S BEEN PRETTY CHALLENGING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING NEXT YEAR, BUT UH, FUEL IS UP. UM, SO ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE IS WE ARE SEEING INCREASES IN AND ON TOP OF THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, A SHORTAGE OF EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OF THE, THE, UH, VERY LOW UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. SO ALL THOSE THINGS PLAY INTO HOW YOU, YOU HAVE TO TRY TO BUDGET, UM, YOUR FUNDS FOR NEXT YEAR. SO JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW TO OUR LOCAL SALES TAX RATE IS 3.75%, 2% OF THAT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND AND 1% OF THAT EXPIRES IN MARCH OF 2027. SO THAT WILL HAVE TO GO TO AN ELECTION TO RENEW THAT. THE 2000 C I P FUND IS 0.75% AND THE 2017 C I P FUND IS 0.5% AND THAT ALSO THE, ALL OF THAT EXPIRES IN MARCH OF 27TH, NOT THE 2000 C I P BUT THE 2017 C I P. SO ONCE AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT TO AN ELECTION. UH, THE FIRE FUND RECEIVES 0.25% POLICE FUND 0.125% AND THE PARK TAX FUND IS 0.125% AND THAT MAKES UP THE 3.75. AND THEN IF YOU ADD THE STATE RATE OF 4.5%, EVERYBODY PAYS 8.25% WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE HERE ON EVERYTHING YOU BUY IN ADMIN. KATHY, OUTTA CURIOSITY, I KNOW THE SECOND CIP P ONE WAS AT A 10 YEAR HORIZON, THE GENERAL FUND ONE WAS THAT, SORRY, THE ONE THAT ONE THE 1% THAT'S EXPIRING IN MARCH OF 2027. BUT IS THAT ALSO, DID THEY, WAS THAT DONE AT THE SAME TIME? DO YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT? IT'S, I MEAN IT WOULD BE ON THE SAME. I'M GONNA TURN TO MR. MURDOCH. DO YOU KNOW THE HISTORY AND SHAKING HIS HEAD YES BECAUSE I THINK 10 YEARS. OKAY. WHAT I, I MEAN EXACTLY THE SAME TIME I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO A TON OF JUST RESIDENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. I THINK IT WOULD BECOME AS A SURPRISE TO ME MOST KNOW OF SOMETHING AROUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. I THINK IT MIGHT COME AS A SURPRISE TO MANY THAT ARE JUST GENERAL BASELINE, HOW WE TURN THE LIGHTS ON, HIRE OUR EMPLOYEES, TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY, RUN THIS CITY ACTUALLY HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE EXACTLY, UH, 2027 FOR JUST GENERAL SALES TAX AND IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS, UM, BORROWING AS WELL. THE BANKS LOOK AT THAT CUZ THAT'S OKAY. THAT, UM, GUARANTEES OUR DEBT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WHEN THAT CAME UP FOR THE VOTE LAST TIME, THERE WAS A, UM, A LARGE CAMPAIGN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE VALUE AND THE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS TAX. WHICH WOULD BE WISE AGAIN, JUST LIKE WITH SCHOOL BONDS MM-HMM. . YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO HERE'S WHERE WE KIND OF RANK IN RELATION TO OUR PEERS. SOME OF THEM ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STATE, BUT BASICALLY WE ARE NOT QUITE THE LOWEST BUT ALMOST. SO TULSA BROKEN [00:25:01] ARROW ARE LOWER, BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS HIGHER THAN US. SO EVERYONE ACTUALLY ON OUR SIDE OF THE STATE, SO NORMAN YUKON, WOO, YUKON'S AT FOUR MORE MIDWEST CITY, OKLAHOMA CITY. AND THEN, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY THE RATE THAT THEY HAVE ON ALL OF THEIR SALES. THIS IS THE PERCENT OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD YEAR TO DATE AND WE'RE ONLY MISSING ONE MONTH. SO IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT WHEN WE GET THE FULL YEAR. BUT WE ACTUALLY ARE SECOND HIGHEST IN THAT I BELIEVE. SO OKLAHOMA CITY BEING THE FIRST AND THEN WE'RE SECOND. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW TAKE FROM THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT UM, IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WE ARE ONE OF THE LOWER RATES IN THE, IN THE METRO CERTAINLY. AND SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CONSIDER IF WE DO GO TO AN ELECTION AND RENEW THE 1%. JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, SO JUST TO REVIEW QUICKLY, OUR CURRENT SOURCES OF REVENUE ARE TAXES, WHICH ARE SALES USE, FRANCHISE, GAS AND OTHER, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY TAX AT ALL. CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH ARE OUR UTILITIES, UH, GRANTS THAT WE A WE APPLY FOR AND THAT'S ACROSS THE CITY. UH, MISCELLANEOUS THINGS LIKE INTEREST INCOME, RENTALS, UM, ROYALTIES, ABATEMENTS WHEN LIKE WHEN WE HAVE TO GO OUT IN MOW SOMEONE'S HIGH WEEDS, UM, AND LICENSING AND PERMITTING. OKAY, SO LET'S THIS JUST HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES HERE ON LAST YEAR'S. THIS IS, WELL IT'S, I SAY LAST YEAR, IT'S A YEAR WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. SO NEXT MONTH WE'LL BE DONE WITH THIS. AND WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS THAT WHEN WE DID OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR, AND KEEP IN MIND THIS IS LIKE TOTAL, SO DON'T GET CONFUSED WITH OUR COST BUDGET, BUT $684 MILLION WAS OUR TOTAL EVERYTHING IN AVAILABLE TO SPEND, WHICH, SO THAT WAS OUR RESERVES AND OUR REVENUE. WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED IS OUR SOURCES ARE, ARE UP TO 1 BILLION, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHY IN A MINUTE. SO BASICALLY IT CHANGED BY 330 MILLION, BUT MOST OF THAT IS BECAUSE, AND WE JUST KIND OF PUT THIS TOGETHER SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THE ENTIRE PICTURE. SO WE WERE A LITTLE OVER ON SALES TAX UNDER ON A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. CHARGES FOR SERVICES WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN INTEREST, BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS DEBT. SO WE TOOK ON DEBT, MOST OF IT WATER CUZ WE'RE BUILDING THE NEW WATER PLANT. AND THAT TELLS YOU WHY IT CHANGED FROM 684 MILLION TO OVER A BILLION. SAME THING WITH THE EXPENSES. THIS IS LAST YEAR. SO BU BUDGETED USES AND BUDGETED, UM, RESOURCES ALWAYS HAVE TO BALANCE AND THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN WHAT YOU SPEND, DIRECT COSTS ARE RESERVES. AND SO ONCE AGAIN, WE WENT FROM 684 TO A BILLION AND IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING. WE DIDN'T PUT A SLIDE TOGETHER THAT SHOWED IT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE WATER PLANT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE BUILDING ALL OF THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW. OKAY, SO HERE WE GO. NOW THIS IS, THIS IS COMING INTO NEXT YEAR. SO 684 MILLION WAS OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR. UM, OR EXCUSE ME, OUR TOTAL RESOURCES, TOTAL USES. SO 742 IS WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THIS YEAR. SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT NEW REVENUE, 343 MILLION RESERVES OF 399 MILLION AND THEN USES DIRECT COST OF 478 AND NOTICE THE NEW REVENUE AND THE COSTS. THE COSTS ARE GREATER THAN THE NEW REVENUE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF DEBT WHEN WE GET LOAN PROCEEDS, UM, BECAUSE YOU CONSIDER THAT A RESOURCE AS WELL. SO OF, UM, SO ALL OF OUR ESTIMATED REVENUE, WHICH WAS JUST ON THIS LAST SLIDE RIGHT HERE, THIS 342 IS MADE UP OF THESE THINGS. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LARGEST PORTION IS FOR OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH IS OUR UTILITIES. SECOND IS TAXES, AND THEN ALL OF THESE OTHER ITEMS JUST MAKE UP THE REST OF IT. SO INTEREST MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE GRANTS, LICENSING AND PERMITTING AND FINES AND FOR FORFEITURES. SO OF, SO WE CAN TELL THIS IS FROM UTILITIES IN OUR RATES. SO OF THIS TAXES, WHAT AM I DOING? OH, SORRY, WE PUT IN COSTS NEXT, SORRY. SO THE COSTS ARE 478 MILLION. AND SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SPLIT 163 MILLION FOR PROVIDING SERVICES FOR OUR UTILITIES. 145 MILLION FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT. PUBLIC SAFETY IS YOUR FIRE EMPLOYEES AND THEN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. SO HEALTH AND WELFARE, STREETS AND HIGHWAYS, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND THEN DEBT REPAYMENT, 39 MILLION. SO ALL OVERALL THIS YEAR, OUR [00:30:01] TOTAL BUDGET CUZ EVERYTHING, IF WE SPENT EVERY PENNY AND SOLD, EVERY ASSET THAT WE HAVE IS 742 MILLION. BUT OUR NEW REVENUE'S 342 AND OUR DIRECT COST BUDGET IS 478. AND THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE USING LOAN PROCEEDS. SO HERE WE ARE. SO NOW OUT OF THE 114 MILLION THAT ARE TAXES CAPITAL PROJECTS, SO THOSE TWO C I P FUNDS MAINLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE ONES, BUT CAPITAL, UH, PROJECT FUNDS 33 MILLION SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, WHICH ARE POLICE AND FIRE, MAINLY 9.8 MILLION AND GENERAL FUND 71 MILLION. SO THE, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE GENERAL FUND AND HOW IT GETS SPLIT. SO OUT OF THAT 71 MILLION, 26 MILLION GOES TO POLICE, 24 MILLION GOES TO UM, EXCUSE ME, 21 MILLION GOES TO FIRE AND GENERAL FUND KEEPS ABOUT 24 MILLION. SO IT'S BASICALLY THIRD, A THIRD, A THIRD AND A THIRD. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THAT'S KIND OF OUR BUDGET. THAT'S A REAL HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GONNA SPEND THIS YEAR. UM, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. SO WE'VE, WE'VE CHOSEN JUST A FEW OF THE LARGER DEPARTMENTS TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. AND I KNOW DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE HERE, SO IF, IF YOU ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, JUST COME UP AND EXPLAIN MORE. WE'VE TRIED TO KIND OF KEEP THESE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE SCREENSHOT SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA. BUT THE POLICE POLICE BUDGET'S AROUND 31 MILLION THIS YEAR. IT'S 23.5 MILLION IN PERSONNEL, SO THE LARGEST ITEM AND 4.5 IN CAPITAL OUTLAY. AND THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THAT IS THE POLICE TRAINING FACILITY THAT ARE GOING TO REMODEL, UM, CHIEF YOUNGER. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? OKAY, . OKAY. AND YOU'LL SEE THIS TOO ON SEVERAL OF THESE SLIDES. OOPS, THIS RADIO TOWER, WE HAVE A RADIO TOWER THAT LIKE THE STATE USES, IT'S SHARED AND IT'S ON U C CAMPUS RIGHT NOW AND UCO DOESN'T WANT IT THERE ANYMORE. SO WE, WE ARE RELOCATING IT AND WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED SOME PROPERTY OR OUR E PWA GROUP HAD, AND SO WE HAVE SOME LAND THERE AND IT'S WATERLOO COFFEE CREEK, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. BUT WE'LL BE BUILDING A NEW RADIO TOWER. SO SEVERAL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE SPLITTING THAT COST. SO BASICALLY, UH, POLICE IS GETTING ABOUT A MILLION OF THAT FIRE. SO THEY HAVE, SO POLICE AT 31 MILLION FIRE HAS 35 MILLION, 22 MILLION IN PERSONNEL. UM, AND THEY HAVE 10 MILLION IN CAPITAL OUTLAY. AND PART OF THAT, THE BIGGEST ITEM IN THAT IS THAT THERE'S 6.7 MILLION GOING TO UH, CONSTRUCT FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS UH, BASICALLY VOLUNTEERED TO HELP BUILD THAT. SO, UM, THAT IS PART OF THEIR FUND BALANCE THAT THEY'RE USING. AND UH, THEY HAD, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE PURCHASED ANY LAND YET. IS CHIEF GOODWIN HERE? YEAH, THEY'RE LOOKING, SEE, SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR LAND RIGHT NOW TOO FOR AN ACTUAL ANOTHER UH, FIRE STATION IN THE FUTURE. THEY'RE ALSO GETTING PART OF THAT RADIO TOWER. AND THEN I JUST WAS LISTING SOME OTHER VARIOUS THINGS. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE EQUIPMENT AND THAT TYPE OF THING THAT THEY NEED EVERY YEAR. UH, ELECTRIC 97 MILLION BUDGET, 8 MILLION IN PERSONNEL. UM, THE BIGGIE FOR THEM IS WHOLESALE ELECTRIC PRICES HAVE REALLY GONE UP AND I KNOW, UH, GLENN HAS HAD TO DO A COUPLE, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO COVER IT THIS YEAR. THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS 17 MILLION. SO THAT'S A HUGE COST. UM, THEIR CAPITAL OUTLAY BASICALLY 3.5 MILLION FOR DISTRIBUTION CONSTRUCTION. UM, 2.2 MILLION FOR SUBSTATION PRODUCTS, EXCUSE ME, PROJECTS THEY'RE GETTING PART OF THE RADIO TOWER. AND THEN JUST MISCELLANEOUS OTHER THINGS, WATER HAS A $39 MILLION BUDGET AND THIS IS WET WATER ONLY, NOT WASTEWATER AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO WITH IT, BUT $3 MILLION PERSONNEL, UM, 6 MILLION IN OTHER SERVICES AND THAT'S LIKE RIGHT AWAY FEES THAT THEY PAY WITH THE GENERAL FUND. PART OF THAT IS 14 MILLION IN CAPITAL OUTLAY AND UM, THEY ARE ON YOUR MAJOR CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW ON THEIR WATER PLANT. SO WE'LL SEE THAT CONTINUE TO GROW AND CHANGE. TYPICALLY CHRIS KNIFING, OUR DIRECTOR OF WATER, DOES UH, VERY GOOD JOB OF WATCHING WHERE HE IS IN HIS CONSTRUCTION, PROG PROGRESS AND HE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL WHEN HE'S READY TO DO THE NEXT PIECE OF IT. SO IT WILL PROBABLY BE HIGHER THAN THAT NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN IT RIGHT NOW. UM, SO BASICALLY 13.3 [00:35:01] OF THAT IS THE WATERWORKS CONSTRUCTION WASTEWATER 1.4 IN PERSONNEL. SO BASICALLY HALF OF WHAT WATER IS, UM, 6 MILLION IN CAPITAL OUTLAY AND THEY'RE DOING A SEWER SYSTEM CONSTRUCTION FOR 3.6 MILLION. AND NOTICE TOO, UM, WATER HAS DEBT SERVICE WHERE ELECTRIC DOES NOT. SO 14 MILLION IN, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE OTHER 15 MILLION? SO 30 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE AND THEN SOLID WASTE, 2 MILLION IN PER, SO THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE AN $8 MILLION BUDGET, SO MUCH SMALLER, $2 MILLION IN PERSONNEL AND 5 MILLION IN OTHER SERVICES. THEY ALSO PLAY PAY RIGHT AWAY FEES AND UM, THEY DON'T HAVE CAPITAL OUTLAY HERE, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE, UH, DISPOSAL, LANDFILL DISPOSAL FEES, RECYCLING CONTRACT AND HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL. SO THIS IS OUR LANDFILL AND OUR, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSFER STATION. THIS IS RECYCLING CONTRACT AND THAT'S THE ONE COMING UP. AND THEN THIS IS I BELIEVE WITH OKLAHOMA CITY CURBSIDE? YEAH. OH, CURBSIDE. CURBSIDE. OKAY. SO, AND SCOTT YOU CAN KIND OF JUMP IN HERE TOO. WE KIND OF WANTED TO REVIEW THE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING COST INCREASE CUZ I, IT CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BUT, UM, IF, IF YOU GUYS MAYBE COULD KIND OF THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANNA DO, UH, IT WOULD BE, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IF WE WANT TO INCREASE THE FEE RIGHT NOW OR NOT. SO I BASICALLY JUST PUT BOBBY MASTERSON'S PRESENTATION IN HERE AGAIN, BUT WE'LL REVIEW IT. UM, SO WE HAD A WORKSHOP ON MAY 8TH AND RECYCLING IS A PASS THROUGH FEE. WE DON'T MAKE MONEY ON IT, BUT OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE PAYING THIS TO THE RECYCLING VENDOR AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENT IS PAYING. SO WE'RE JUST, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH 26 CENTS, BUT THAT'S TIMES 40,000 OR HOWEVER MANY IT IS. SO THE NEW CONTRACT BID THAT WE'VE JUST RECEIVED IS 4 56, SO WE'LL BE LOSING MORE CLASS IS INCLUDED IN THE NEW CONTRACT AND IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW, UH, THE RATE, THE RATE INCLUDES COST FOR RECYCLING DROP OFF CENTER. AND SO WE'RE REALLY JUST ASKING IF YOU GUYS COULD MAYBE DISCUSS IT AND, AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU WANT US TO PUT IN THE BUDGET, EITHER PUT SOMETHING IN OR NOT. AND UM, IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1ST. IT WOULD START, SO WE WOULD INCREASE THE RATE TO THE CUSTOMER ON JULY 1ST. THEY'RE, THEY DON'T NEED ANY NEW, UH, EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY WOULD EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THAT IT'S COMING AND WE WOULD UP UPDATE OUR WEBSITE TO SHOW THAT AS WELL. SO THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS. WERE YOU GUYS HERE? OKAY, SO YOU PROBABLY REMEMBERED THIS. SO I'LL KIND OF JUST REVIEW REAL QUICK. IT WAS THIS FLAT RATE OF 5 58, KIND OF A GRADUATED RATE OR LIKE TWO, TWO AND ONE. UH, BOBBY WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE DID TELL ME HE WOULD RECOMMEND THIS STRAIGHT RATE. AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE FUND BALANCE FOR THIS WOULD BUILD FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO, IT WOULD LEVEL OFF AND THEN WE WOULD BE LOSING. SO IT, IT WOULD BE KIND OF A BELL CURVE, BUT THIS IS THE ONE HE WOULD RECOMMEND. SO, AND IT WOULD, UH, SO AFTER FIVE YEARS WE'D HAVE APPROXIMATELY $5,000 IN RESERVES. AND IF WE DID THIS ONE, IT WAS 7,000. IF WE DID THIS OPTION THREE IT WAS 1300. AND SIR. OKAY, SO, SO KATHY, EVEN THOUGH MR. MASTERSON'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, WHAT, WHY DID HE RECOMMEND OPTION ONE VERSUS TWO OR THREE? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS QUITE A BAD DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA GET IN HERE, SCOTT, BUT IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS REALLY JUST BECAUSE IF YOU, IT WAS JUST THE SIMPLICITY BETTER FOR THE CUSTOMER YOU DID WEREN'T CHANGING THEIR RATE EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MENTION JUST THE KEYING ERRORS THAT YOU COULD HAVE AND HOWEVER MANY CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, HEY, WE'RE INCREASING YOUR RATE AGAIN. WE'RE INCREASING YOUR RATE AGAIN EVERY YEAR. SO THIS ACHIEVED THE SAME OUTCOME, BUT YOU JUST LEAVE THE RIGHT STEADY. I THINK THE OTHER POINT, AND AGAIN, COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE ANY OF THESE, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SAY, HEY, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT A, A DIFFERENT OPTION, SCOTT, TO GO BACK TO STAFF AND WORK OUT. ANOTHER OPTION IS COUNCIL DOESN'T MAKE ANY DECISION EVEN AFTER JULY 1ST. AND SIMPLY WHAT THAT HAPPENS IS THE CURRENT RATE STAYS THE SAME AND WE SUPPLEMENT THAT FROM SOLID WASTE RESERVES. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'D BE SAYING LET'S USE SOME RESERVES TO CONTINUE TO SUBSIDIZE TO A CERTAIN POINT, I THINK, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DISCUSSION IS THE 5 58, THE OPTION ONE [00:40:01] IS YOU, YOU START BUILDING RESERVE UP EARLY THEN AS THE PRICE INCREASE YOU JUST WORK BACK AGAINST RESERVE VERSUS THE OTHER TWO IS YOU'RE PROBABLY WORKING FROM A, A DEFICIT AND AS THE PRICE GOES UP, YOU BUILD BACK UP YOUR RESERVES TO BECOME NET, NET AND ZERO AT THE END OF IT OR, OR SLIGHTLY ABOVE NET PROFIT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S A COUNCIL DISCUSSION. WE'RE NOT ANY ONE OF THESE OR IF YOU HAVE AN EITHER IDEA, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT, I MEAN I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SUBSIDIZING THIS, SO I DO WANT TO SELECT OPTION, AN OPTION THAT WOULD INCREASE THE RATE BY JULY ONE SO THAT WE'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING IT. SO I'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE. UM, AND I MEAN ON THE ONE HAND THAT'S A DOLLAR 58 INCREASE ALL A SUDDEN, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T. SO I MEAN I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL THINKS. I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA DO IT EVERY YEAR. THAT SEEMS CONFUSING AND DIFFICULT. YEAH, AND, AND I, SO, AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL MEMBER ROBIN MAY MAKE THAT COMMENT, BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S ASKED FOR IS AN OPEN HOUSE TO HAVE PUBLICITY AND EDUCATION AS PART OF THAT EFFORT BEFORE, BEFORE THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION. YES. BUT COUNSELOR MOR, I, AS PART OF OUR ORIENTATION, GOT TO MEET WITH STAFF INCLUDING THIS AND MY SEDIMENT WOULD BE IS THAT THE CITIZENS OF ADMIN REFLEXIVELY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, WHICH IS TAKE CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT, MAKE RESPONSIBLE CHOICES. THEY DO THAT BY UH, INCLUDING MY FAMILY CONSUMING COPIOUS AMOUNTS OFF AMAZON. AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO OUR BLUE BIN, WE OPEN IT UP, PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE AND HAVE A GOOD FEELING WASH OVER US BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE OUR PART AFTER CONSUMING ALL THAT STUFF. UM, SO FROM A SURVEY STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU SURVEY CI CITIZENS, THEY'RE GONNA TELL YOU THAT THEY WANT RECYCLING AND THEY WANT RE THEY WANT EXPANDED RECYCLING AND THEY WANNA RECYCLE EVERYTHING. THE GAP BETWEEN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES OF WHEN WE, UH, PIVOTED TOWARDS RECYCLING EVERY MUNICIPALITY IS THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL MARKETPLACE HAS CHANGED. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUYER FOR MOST OF OUR PLASTIC PRODUCTS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF INTERNATIONAL MARKET THAT EXISTED BEFORE FOR PAPER PRODUCTS. AND DEPENDING ON THE YEAR WHICH THE VENDORS ACKNOWLEDGE, WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SOME MARGINALITY ON GLASS. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR IS TO, BEFORE WE VOTE ON A RATE INCREASE, IS JUST HAVE AN OPEN, UH, TOWN HALL ABOUT RECYCLING. INVITE OUR VENDOR TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE IT ACT LIKE WHERE IT GOES. UM, AND THEN, UM, IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WE WANT TO DO, UH, RECYCLING, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT DO WE TAKE? I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS IF WE TAKE THE STUFF THAT ACTUALLY IS RECYCLED AND HAS A ECONOMIC BIO. I MEAN, I, I THINK DIDN'T WE ALREADY VOTE ON THE CONTRACT FOR RECYCLING? SO I MEAN I THINK WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH RECYCLING AND I'D HATE TO, I DON'T WANT TO SUBSIDIZE THIS CUZ WE'RE GONNA GO INTO JULY ONE WITH THE NEW RATE OF 4 58 OR WHATEVER IT IS. FOUR, $4 I THINK. UM, FOUR. WELL, WE'RE CURRENTLY, THEY'RE PAYING FOR, IT'S 4 26 AND I THINK IT'S 4 58 THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING 4 56. OKAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHICH RATE INCREASE WE'RE GONNA GO WITH SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS AND GETTING THE WORD OUT, BUT I DON'T, I'M JUST, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE ORDER ON THAT. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH A NEW RECYCLING CONTRACT. IT'S A AND AND I DON'T WANNA SUBSIDIZE THE RATES. SO I THINK WE NEED TO PICK A RATE INCREASE BUT THEN PLAN, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL DO, DO WE KNOW, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. DO WE, UH, LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT ANNUALLY? IS IT IN PLACE FOR THREE YEARS? I THINK IT'S, IS IT WHAT, FIVE, THREE YEARS? I CAN'T REMEMBER. COUNCIL KEITH STEWART, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. YES. IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND THEY GET, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE PROPOSE THE SINGLE FEE JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT REACH FOR THE FIVE YEARS IS BECAUSE I DO GET A C I P INCREASE, CPI INCREASE EACH YEAR. AND SO RATHER THAN COMING BACK AND ADJUSTING THAT RATE INCREASED EACH YEAR, THOSE FIVE, WE JUST DO A STRAIGHT, AND AS MR. RIGBY EXPLAINED, IT'LL BUILD UP A SURPLUS FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS, FLATTEN OUT THE THIRD YEAR, AND THEN IT'LL GO INTO DEFICIT. AND WE DID THAT ON THE CURRENT CONTRACT AND THAT'S HOW WE KNOW IT. IT IT WORKS. THAT'S, THAT'S THE STRUCTURE WE USED. BECAUSE WOULDN'T YOU THINK A CITIZEN, IF THEY SEE IT GOING UP EVERY YEAR MM-HMM. , THEY WOULD THINK THEY'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING ELSE. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO STICK A REFRIGERATOR IN THERE . SO IF YOU JUST PULL THE BANDAID OFF, INCREASE THE FEE, IT IS WHAT IT IS AND WE ARE, THEY CAN RECYCLE GLASS NOW IT'S A NEW CONTRACT AND I THINK THERE'S SIMPLICITY ABOUT IT. SO I THINK FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I DON'T, DISCUSSING PEOPLE WHO RECYCLE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT MM-HMM. . AND, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WHEN YOU COME BACK EVERY SINGLE [00:45:01] YEAR WITH A RATE INCREASE, UM, QUESTIONS. AND EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY CAN COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND BE EDUCATED AND LOOK AT WHAT THE FEES ARE AND LOOK THAT WE'RE TA TAKING A LOSS ON IT, UM, YOU STILL GO TO THEM EVERY SINGLE YEAR WITH AN INCREASE AND IT'S AN ISSUE. UM, SIMPLICITY. SO TODAY, SO TO ON THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, SO THIS CONTRACT WHICH WAS VOTED ON THE NEXT TIME IT WOULD BE REVIEWED OR VOTED ON BY COUNCIL WOULD BE FIVE YEARS. FIVE MM-HMM. . OKAY. I MEAN REFLEXIVELY, IT'S LIKE, MAN, I'D LOVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AND VOTE ON IT, BUT LIKE I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T PUT MY NAME ON THE BALLOT TWO YEARS AGO EITHER. SO THAT'S, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, COUNCILOR MUG'S POINT TO US NOT WANTING TO SUBSIDIZE IT. SO I'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSED LIKE RATE INCREASE EXACTLY AS YOU EXPLAINED IT. AND THEN WHAT I'D WANT TO DO IS WORK WITH OUR COMMS TEAM TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE JUST EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM, PARTICULARLY ON YOUNGER STUDENTS, MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, WHO'D WANT TO TAKE ON A PROJECT LIKE THAT. I JUST MYSELF DROVE AROUND THE ADMIN RECYCLE TRANSFER STATION BECAUSE WHY NOT HAVE A FUN, UH, 15 MINUTES OF UH, EDUCATING MYSELF. SO I WENT UP THERE, I NOTED THAT THE, THE SIGNAGE IS FADED AND LIKE MULTIPLE MESSAGES AND THINGS. UH, I KNOW THAT THE VENDOR WILL PROVIDE SOME KIND OF BASELINE RESOURCES, BUT AS WE GO AND ASK FOR MORE DOLLARS AND AS WE'RE COMMITTING THIS TO FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE PUTTING DIFFERENT THINGS IN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME E P W RESERVE MONEY IN, IN CONJUNCTION USED TOWARDS A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT WE CAN SUPPORT, UH, THAT WOULD BE ONGOING, THAT REALLY MAKES US A LEADER IN EDUCATING, ENGAGING OUR PUBLIC. AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY AT A GOOD PLACE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, UH, WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND, AND THAT, BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO ON MY OWN SCUTTLE ANYTHING THAT'S IN, IN PLACE. I THINK WE'LL JUST LOOK TOWARDS SEEING HOW WE CAN'T EDUCATE AND ENGAGE IN A MUCH MORE MAYBE PROMINENT WAY WITH THIS. WELL I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE, THE EDUCATION PART HELPS US IN OUR CONTAMINATION RATE. MM-HMM. IT, USE IT LOWER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN'T JUST THROW A PIZZA BOX IN RECYCLING CUZ IT'S CONTAMINATED. IT HAS A RULE OF GREASE ON IT AND IT COULD CAUSE US TO GET THE WHOLE LOAD CONTAMINATED. SO, YOU KNOW, THE EDUCATION IS GOOD AND UH, BUT AS COUNCILWOMAN MENTIONED, THIS CONTRACT IS, HAS ALREADY BEEN, UH, VOTED ON. AND BUT ALSO, GO AHEAD. EVEN THOUGH THE, WE'VE VOTED ON THE CONTRACT, IT'S FIVE YEARS, THERE'S ALWAYS, AS THE MARKET CHANGES, WE STILL HAVE DISCUSSION ON IT. SURE, SURE. AND THAT'S ALSO PART OF THAT HOPEFULLY IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE EDUCATION PROCESS BECAUSE WHEN GLASS DROPPED OUT ON THE LAST CONTRACT MM-HMM. , IT WAS MIDSTREAM BASICALLY MM-HMM. AND, AND WOKE UP ONE DAY, GLASS IS NO LONGER IN. AND SO WE AS A COUNCIL CONTINUALLY HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT OPTIONS. YEAH. AND WHAT I'LL ADD IS, AND I I THINK IT WAS BEFORE YOU'D ANNOUNCED IS WE WENT OUT AND DID THAT SURVEY AND HAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT FOUR OR 5,000 PEOPLE RESPOND TO THE SURVEY TO HELP DRIVE WHAT WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE IN THE, IN THE RFP FOR SERVICES. SO THAT WAS A BIG, BUT I DON'T WANNA LOSE THE IDEA IN SUGGESTION THAT CUSTOMER ROBBINS HAD ABOUT MORE AGGRESSIVE, I SHOULDN'T SAY MORE AGGRESSIVE, MORE PROACTIVE, THAT SOUNDED AGGRESSIVE. WE'RE GONNA THROW RECYCLING AT PEOPLE. WE'RE, WE'RE BE MORE INTERACTIVE, MORE PROGRESSIVE ABOUT GETTING THE WORD ABOUT RECYCLING. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MY OTHER CITIES ARE BIGGER, ACTUALLY HAD TWO MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALISTS, THAT'S ALL THEY DID WAS RECYCLING. THEY CAME UP WITH MASCOTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, BUT WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE AND SIMPLY RELEASING THE PRESS RELEASE AND SAID, HEY, RECYCLING, WE'VE GOTTA BE CONTINUOUSLY EDUCATING THAT EFFORT. AND I LOVE THAT TO MATCH WITH SORT OF A REFRESH REBRAND OF MESSAGING AT THE RECYCLING CENTER. UH, BECAUSE YOU JUST, I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE FADED SIGNS AND DIFFERENT LETTERING AND DIFFERENT WHATEVER. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU COME IN, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE AND THEN HAVE A QR CODE SO IT CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU IN A QUICK VIDEO OF LIKE, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. I KNOW COUNSELOR MOORE, UM, MENTIONED WHEN THIS WAS ALL PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE SPENT AROUND $80,000 IN, UM, CLEANUP FEES IN THAT SITE, UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T FOLLOWING OR AREN'T EDUCATED OR OTHERWISE SKIRTING THE SYSTEM. AND SO HAVING THAT DONE IN TANDEM, SO WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP, IT'S A CLEAN AND SAFE, UH, ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY CAN INTERACT WITH THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT AND WHO IS, AND WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. MM-HMM. . SO I THINK WE'RE SUPER GOOD ABOUT EDUCATING FOR WATER CONSERVATION. UM, IT GOES OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT ALSO GOES OUT IN ALL OF THE UTILITY BILLS. MAYBE A LITTLE EXCERPT ON RECYCLING. REMEMBER, WASH OUT YOUR CONTAINERS. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN'T, IF YOU GO TO THE CENTER, ABC, JUST A LITTLE TINY EXERT EXCERPT. [00:50:01] JUST STICK THERE TOO AND JUST KEEP THAT EDUCATION ROLLING FOR FOLKS. ABSOLUTELY. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A COMMERCIAL WITH KEITH ON IT. , THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IF THAT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE IT TODAY MM-HMM. , BUT IDEALLY, UM, WE'D LOVE SOME FEEDBACK, EITHER ONE-ON-ONES OR WHATEVER ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION, WHAT RATE YOU SUGGEST OR, OR VARIATIONS. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE JAN, THE JUNE 12TH HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION THAT EITHER WE HAVE BUILT IN OR IF YOU THINK, HEY, WE NEED A FEW MORE WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT IT, LET US KNOW. SO WE'LL, SO WE PUT THE RIGHT NUMBERS IN THE BUDGET TO COUNT FOR THAT. I'M COMFORTABLE SAYING OPTION ONE, SET THE FEE ONCE AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THAT'D BE MY DIRECTION AS WELL. MM-HMM. . AND THEN LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION AS FAR AS THE BUDGET TO ADD A PIECE, WHETHER WE CAN HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO HANDLE THAT INTERNALLY OR WE NEED TO LOOK AT EXTERNALLY HAVING A, A CONTRACT PARTNER TO BE ABLE TO RELAUNCH, RE REBRAND OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF, AND THEN RECYCLES AND HOW WE DO THAT. WE CAN WORK WITH BOBBY AND KEITH AND THEIR STAFF ABOUT KIND OF A GAME PLAN FOR RECYCLING MARKETING OPTION ONE, OPTION ONE. WE'LL TAKE THAT DIRECTION. ALL RIGHT. DONE. MOVE FORWARD. WE GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO ANOTHER BUDGET THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING BECAUSE IT'S JUST GROWING IS OUR VISIT EDMOND ART TOURISM. AND, UM, THEY HAVE A BUDGET OF 619,000. THEY'RE GROWING. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO DECIDE HOW TO, UH, GROW. THEY WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $870,000 IN RES IN REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, THEY DO GET SOME INCOME FROM ADVERTISING THAT THEY CHARGE FOR, BUT MOST OF IT'S FROM THE BED TAX, LODGING TAX, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT 4%. IF YOU, UH, GO TO VISIT EDMOND MEETINGS EVER, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT RAISING THAT, THAT RATE. BUT, UM, THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 840,000 IN REVENUE, 369,000 IN PERSONNEL, THREE 30,000 IN SUPPLIES, AND 220,000 IN OTHER SERVICES, WHICH IS, UM, I THINK THEY SPONSOR, THEY DO A ADVERTISING AND SPONSORSHIPS BASICALLY. SO THIS IS A BUDGET THAT IS SPLIT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THE, SO ABOUT $560,000 IS ACTUALLY TAKEN OUT OF GENERAL FUND TO SUBSIDIZE FOR THE TRANSFERS THAT WE MAKE TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO JUST SO YOU KIND OF KNOW, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT VISIT EDMOND RECEIVES? NO, THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE EIGHT 70. WE, IT'S THE GENERAL FUND THAT TAKES, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M SAYING THAT THE MONEY COMES OUT TO POLICE AND FIRE, BUT IT'S REPLENISHED IN VISIT EDMOND RIGHT. BY THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S, IT'S DUPLICATED BASICALLY. SO, UM, YEAH, SO WE, IT'S A DEDICATED SALES TAX OR A TAX DEDICATED TAX. SO THEY HAVE, WE HAVE TO GIVE THAT TO THEM. YEAH, IT'S ONE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL ACCOUNTS. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP IT WHOLE. SO IF WE MOVE DOLLARS OUT TO, TO FUND POLICE OR FIRE, WE HAVE TO BACKFILL, MAKE SURE THE COUNT IS, IS, UH, THE DOLLARS ARE THERE. SO WE HAVE TO, WE SUPPLEMENT FROM GENERAL FUND. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. SO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BUDGET JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION IS 1.8 MILLION AND ONE POINT, AS YOU WOULD SUSPECT MOST OF IT'S PERSONNEL BECAUSE THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, CREATE ANY PRODUCT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO EXCEPT EXEMPLARY MANAGEMENT, IT'S TOO LATE. IT'S TOO LATE. IT'S ALRIGHT. FAST. IT'S ALRIGHT. THANKS. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT VOICE SEEKING THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME WITH FINANCE, RIGHT? OKAY. SO ANYWAY, HUN, 1.43 MILLION IN PERSONNEL, A LITTLE BIT IN SUPPLIES AND A LITTLE BIT IN OTHER SERVICES, WHICH ARE DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS, CONSULTING, TRAINING, THAT KINDA THING. THAT EXPENSES. JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THIS IS WE, WE HAVE, WE'RE CURRENTLY OUT ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW ADVERTISING FOR WHAT'S CALLED A DOWNTOWN TRANSFORMATIONAL TRANSFORMATION MANAGER. MANAGER. YES. THIS WAS, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS EVEN BEFORE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE RECOMMENDED. THIS IS A LOT OF DOWNTOWN CENTRAL BUSINESS AREA PROJECTS GOING ON. UM, WE'VE, WE NEED SOMEONE THAT WAKES UP, I'LL CALL EVERY DAY THAT FOCUSES ON THAT FROM THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TO COMPLIANCE TO WHOLE NUMBER OF ISSUES VERSUS RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF DOING A, A PLATOON FACTOR, HEY, YOU GOT THAT POINT AND YOU GOT THIS ONE OVER HERE. [00:55:02] UM, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST, BUT WE COULD DO A LOT BETTER IF WE HAD A DEDICATED PERSON. SO WE'RE OUT IN THE MARKET TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S A GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, UM, FOR OUR OFFICE AND FOR HOW WE MANAGE SOME OF OUR LARGE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY TIF RELATED PROJECTS THAT NEED BETTER OVERSIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO I'M ENTERING OVER TO LISA. GOOD PASTURE. COME MAYOR, SHE WILL TELL YOU ABOUT HR. SO DOES MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER BEFORE WE START THIS, CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MIN UH, FIVE MINUTE BREAK? WE NEED, WE, WE NEED TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. SO COME BACK IN THREE O'CLOCK. THREE O'CLOCK PLEASE. READY? READY. OKAY, THERE. YES. LET ME, SO THIS NEXT SESSION, WE, I WANT TO COMMEND LISA, GOOD PASTURE AND HER STAFF AND OUR DISCUSSION WITH, WITH GENERAL STAFF. THIS IS A BIG SECTION FOR US AS WE TALK ABOUT EDMOND'S A GREAT CITY TO, TO, TO LIVE AND WORK AND PLAY IN. WE WANNA MAKE SURE OUR CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND THAT WE ARE BE ABLE TO RECRUIT COMPETITIVELY. UM, AND I'LL CALL IT REWARD THE RIGHT WAY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP PEOPLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS WE CAN. WE KNOW WITH TODAY'S EMPLOYEES THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE TURNOVER THAN MAYBE MY DAD WORKED FOR THE SINGLE EMPLOYEE FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC, BUT WE WANT TO BECOME MORE, UM, I'LL CALL IT UP TO THE TIMES AND MEAN COMPETITIVE. SO JUST WANT A LITTLE BIT, THANKS FOR LISA AND HER STAFF FOR COMING UP TO CAUSE WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY FOR A LOT OF OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT. MAYOR, COUNSEL, GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO START WITH IS JUST A PERSONNEL SUMMARY ON JULY ONE TO DATE, UH, WE HAVE HIRED 90 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND THAT'S EXISTING POSITIONS AND ADDED POSITIONS THAT WE'VE ADDED. UH, FOR 23 FISCAL YEAR 23, WE'VE HAD 60 SEPARATIONS. OUR CURRENT TURNOVER IS AT 7.2%. LAST YEAR WAS AT 8.5%. UM, THE NATIONAL TURNOVER IS AT 3.8. OKLAHOMA'S TURNOVER IS AT 3%. UH, WENT OUT AND TALKED WITH OKLAHOMA CITY. IT'S AT 11.8. MORE IS AT 9.24, NORMAN'S AT 8%, AND JUST GOT IN DATA FROM BROKEN ARROW, AND THEIRS IS AT 8.4%. UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING WHY OKLAHOMA'S TURNOVER RATE IS MUCH LOWER THAN THE CITY OF EDMONDS TURNOVER RATE. AND THERE'S PROBABLY, UH, CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE A MUNICIPALITY, UM, IT'S THE SHORTAGE OF LABOR POSITIONS. UH, YOU LOOK AT FIELD SERVICES, UM, SOLID WASTE, IT'S HARD TO FILL POSITIONS. OUR COMMUNICATIONS 9 1 1 OPERATORS HARD TO FILL POSITIONS. OUR DETENTION OFFICERS, HARD TO FILL POSITIONS. UM, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING USED TO. WE USED TO GET ADMIN SPECIALISTS OR ADMIN ASSISTANT POSITIONS. WE USED TO GET HUNDREDS OF APPLICATIONS IN ON THOSE PARTICULAR POSITIONS. AND WE'RE HARDLY, I MEAN, IT'S VERY, VERY LOW, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WHEN WE GET INTO FURTHER SLIDES THAT POSSIBLY WE CAN YE SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES. UH, ALSO WE ARE RECOMMENDING 13 FULL-TIME POSITIONS. NINE OF THOSE 13 ARE PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS, WHICH ARE FUNDED BY POLICE AND FIRE. UH, THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED BY ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND THEN THERE'S TWO ADMINISTRATION POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND. IS ONE OF THOSE ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS. THE DOWNTOWN CITY MANAGER, PARDON ME, IS ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS. THE DOWNTOWN MENT? NO. OKAY. NO, THAT'S BEING, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING OUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR POSITION THIS FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS OUR PERSONNEL ACTUAL TOTALS. UH, OUR, WE, WE'VE HAD A 19 OR 9% INCREASE FROM 2019, UH, TO 2023. OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR CAME IN AT 98 MILLION. OUR ESTIMATED YEAR END BUDGET IS GONNA COME IN AT 85 MILLION, AND THAT'S, UM, APPROXIMATELY, YOU COULD SAY IT'S A SAVINGS [01:00:01] OF 12.4 MILLION. HOWEVER, UM, THOSE ARE DUE TO PROBABLY MOST LIKELY VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. BUT THOSE VACANT POSITIONS HAVE ALSO PUT IT ALL, PUT A LOT OF STRESS ON OUR ACTIVE, UH, EMPLOYEES. AND PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES. THIS GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF OUR CUR OUR BUDGET FOR 24 IS GONNA COME IN AT 101 MILLION. THAT INCLUDES ALL PERSONNEL, FIRE, POLICE, GENERAL EMPLOYEES, ENTERPRISE FUND FUNDED EMPLOYEES. THAT, AND UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE BASE SALARY, THE PENSION, UH, ALL BENEFITS, UH, TAXES. ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH PERSONNEL, UH, IS AT 101 MILLION. THIS GONNA GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF LIKE FIRE. THAT'S 22% OF, UH, 22% OF THE PERSONNEL COST. POLICE IS 24%. PUBLIC WORKS 19%. WATER RESOURCES, 5%. ADMINISTRATION IS 19% OF THE BUDGET. COMMUNICATIONS, 3% AT ELECTRIC, 8% POLICE AND FIRE. THEY'RE FUNDED THROUGH, THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY, DEDICATED TAX PUBLIC WORKS. SOME OF THOSE POSITION, SOME OF THOSE DIVISIONS ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDED. UH, WATER RESOURCES IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. ADMINISTRATION IS PAID OUT OF GENERAL FUND, UH, COMMUNICATION IS PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND ELECTRIC IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. THIS IS OUR CURRENT TURNOVER RATE, UH, FROM FISCAL YEAR 19 TO 23. AS YOU SEE IN 19, IT WAS 6.49%. UM, IT ROSE IN 22 TO 8.5, AND THEN IN 23 7 0.2%. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO FISCAL YEAR 18, PROBABLY PRE, UM, PANDEMIC, IT WAS AT 4.24%. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT HAS INCREASED SINCE COVID. UM, THIS IS OUR VA VACANCY COUNT AS OF MAY 8TH. NOW, SOME OF THESE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN FILLED. WATER RESOURCES VACANCY OF FIVE ADMINISTRATION, 21 COMMUNICATIONS, FIVE ELECTRIC, THREE FIRE, ZERO POLICE. THERE IS 16 VACANCIES, BUT 10 OF THOSE VACANCIES ARE POLICE RECRUITS. AND THEY WILL BE FILLED IN, I THINK JUNE 12TH OF 23. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. POLICE RECRUITS BILL JUNE 12TH. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS HAS A TOTAL OF 18 VACANCIES. WHAT ARE PER OUR PERSONNEL CHALLENGES, AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE POLICE OR FIRE, IS IS THE ATTRACTING, THE RETAINING. LIKE I SAID, OUR TURNOVER RATE IS AT 7.2%. WE HAVE 52 VACANT POSITIONS, AND THEN THERE'S A RISING COST OF EMPLOYEE BENEFIT PROGRAMS. UM, THE HEALTH INSURANCE PRESCRIPTION DENTAL EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC. USUALLY IT'S A RISE OF FROM EACH YEAR TO YEARS, ABOUT TWO TO 3% INCREASE. UM, IN, IN OUR TOTAL BENEFIT PACKAGE. ON THE RECRUITING SIDE, DOES THE CITY, UM, AS A WHOLE, OR DO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SUIT ON THEIR OWN, OR IF AT ALL, HAVE LIKE AN INTERN PROGRAM? UH, WE HAVEN'T, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO INTRODUCE AN INTERN PROGRAM FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, BUT WE DO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAS AN INTERN PROGRAM. THAT'S HOW I STARTED WITH THE CITY YEARS. YES. AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. SO IS THAT JUST WITHIN THIS, THAT'S AWESOME. IS THAT JUST WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT WE HAVE, UH, INTERN OR IS THAT, DO WE HAVE ONES THAT WORK FOR DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY? GO AHEAD. WE HAVE, UM, WATER RESOURCES. I THINK THAT HAD PLACED, UH, SEVERAL INTERNS. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS. GOLF COURSE HAS PLACED SEVERAL INTERNS. PLANNING. POLICE HAVE PLACED SEVERAL INTERNS TO, TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, CASEY'S BACK THERE. UH, NOW THAT UCO HAS SELECTED A NEW PRESIDENT, HOPEFULLY THAT PRESIDENT WILL STAY. DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS, I GUESS. BUT OUR GOAL IN THAT IS WE WANT TO BECOME MORE ROBUST [01:05:01] IN OUR INTERNSHIP OR MANAGEMENT FELLOWS PROGRAM, NOT JUST FOR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT FOR ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH UCO, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE DO THE SIMILAR THING WITH, UM, FRANCIS YEAH. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE TWO OTHER STATE COLLEGES CALL OU, OSU, WE'RE, WE JUST FAVOR UCO. BUT, UM, OU AND OSU HAS CREATED AN INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY. AND WHETHER YOU'RE AN ACCOUNTING PROGRAM DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE IN FINANCE. YOU COULD BE AN ACCOUNTANT IN WATER OR WASTE WATER OR WHATEVER IS HOW TO DO THAT. AND HOW DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE NOT ONLY PROVIDE THEM INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY, BUT MAYBE CREDIT OPPORTUNITY. MM-HMM. . SO WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PARKS AND RECS, ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE IN RECREATION MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STRUGGLE OFTENTIMES TO FINE SEASONAL AND PART-TIME STAFF FOR THE SUMMERTIME IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY INTERNSHIP, TO BE TO BE HERE DURING THAT TIME, BUT ALSO PROVIDE CREDIT TO KIND OF DOUBLE THE BENEFIT TO 'EM. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTA BECOME MORE ROBUST CUZ WE THINK THAT'S A WAY TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC SERVICE THAT MAYBE IN THE PAST DIDN'T, DIDN'T KNOW MM-HMM. , UH, OR EVEN CONS AS I TALK TO PEOPLE, LIKE, WE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT. WHY WOULD WE WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT? THEY DON'T PAY. WELL, THEY DON'T DO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS UNTIL YOU EXPOSE THEM. SO WE'VE GOT, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE NEWS UCO PRESIDENT IN HIS OFFICE TO DEVELOP A, A DISCIPLINE WIDE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. I LOVE THAT INITIATIVE. I THINK MYSELF, I INTERNED FOR MULTIPLE SUMMERS. COREY'S MAN, A FANTASTIC EXAMPLE. WE JUST NEED TO HIT REPEAT ON THAT 100 TIMES. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. BUT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT THAT. I ALSO THINK SOMETIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, INTERNS, YOU ASK KIDS LIKE, DO YOU WANT A PAID INTERNSHIP OR AN UNPAID ONE? SO I SUPPORT THE PAID ROUTE JUST GIVEN, UH, MAYBE THAT WAS MY DC EXPERIENCE WHERE THEY, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A SPECIAL BONUS IF THEY, IF THEY DECIDED TO PAY YOU. UM, BUT, AND TO OUR HARD TO FIND, UH, FILL POSITIONS THAT ARE SEASONAL. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WORKING AT LAKE ARCADIA, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN FULLY COMPLETE THE SUMMER AND MAYBE WE'RE ABLE TO HELP WITH THREE CREDIT HOURS THE NEXT SEMESTER. BUT I LOVE THE IDEA OF GIVING PEOPLE WORKING ON PROJECTS AND INNOVATING. I THINK ALL OF US WOULD SUPPORT THAT. AND IF THERE'S A BUDGET NEED AROUND THAT, WE'D LOVE TO ALSO WITH LABOR FROM FRANCIS TOWN. YEAH. FRANCIS TELL, I KNOW I'M LOOKING AT GLEN, DON'T YOU GUYS GO OUT TO ROSE COLLEGE? OR IS THAT KEITH THAT WELL, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT, UM, REACHES OUT TO OSU O KC ON AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOR THEIR APPRENTICES. YEAH. THAT'S AN AREA WE'RE GONNA PART OF WE TALK ABOUT TODAY. IT'S PART OF OUR EFFORT TO COMPREHENSIVE RECRUITMENT EFFORT. MM-HMM. , I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROBINS, I, I THINK LISA, I COULD SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE STILL HAVE OUR INTERNSHIP POLICY THAT SAYS THAT IF, UNLESS THEIR PROGRAM PROHIBITS THEM BEING PAID, THEN THEY WOULD BE PAID AS AN INTERN. WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS ON THAT INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. OUR INITIATIVES TO FACE THESE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES IS WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO, TO CONDUCT A PAY AND COMPENSATION STUDY. AND WE'LL GET TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN A FEW MORE SLIDES. WE ARE ALSO WANTING TO OFFER A PATERNITY LEAVE POLICY. THAT PATERNITY LEAVE POLICY IS SIX WEEKS PAID LEAVE FOR THE PERSON GIVING BIRTH AND 40 HOURS PAID LEAVE FOR THE PERSON, UH, THE PARENT OF THE, THE NEWBORN AND 24 HOURS FOR FOSTER CARE AND 24 HOURS FOR ADOPTION. AND I RAN SOME FIGURES ON THAT. AND IF TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A POSSIBLE IDEA OF THE, THE COST FOR THIS AND AN AVERAGE SALARY OF $26, UH, TIMES SIX WEEK, WHICH IS 240 HOURS, UH, IT WOULD COST $6,240. NOW THAT'S JUST BASE SALARY. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE BEN BENEFITS, PENSIONS, TAXES, THINGS LIKE THAT. LAST YEAR WE HAD 16, UM, BIRTH MOTHERS, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOTAL COST AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. BUT YOU RETAINED HIM AND WE RETAINED HIM. THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S THE KICKER THERE. YES. AND I KNOW, UM, TOM WAS TALKING ABOUT ALSO UPPING THE DAYS FOR FOSTER AND FOR ADOPTION. I MEAN, 24 HOURS IS NOT LONG TO SITUATE A CHILD IN YOUR HOME. I WILL LOOK AT THAT. MM-HMM. . SO I THINK AS WE LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE DO TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN TALENT, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF PRESSURE ON US FROM THE PRIVATE, UH, SECTOR. MM-HMM. , IF YOU'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, HARD TO FILL [01:10:01] POSITION IF YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, I'VE ALREADY HAD TWO, UH, VERY ANIMATED, UH, CITIZENS WANT TO, UH, INVITE ME OUT AND TAKE A TOUR OF THE, UH, WATER HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CREEKS AND WE HAVE ALL TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO IF WE GO TO OUR HYDROLOGIST, WE HAVE TO, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? DO THE STUDY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE GOTTA COMPETE AGAINST. MY JUST SEDIMENT WOULD BE, UH, IS A, IS A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS, AND WE CAN'T LEAD IN EVERYTHING, BUT I WOULD WANT US TO COME OUT OF THE GATE, UH, WITH THE LEADING, UH, UH, PATERNITY AND MATERNITY LEAVE POLICY AMONGST OUR PEER CITIES. MM-HMM. , IF OUR CITIES ARE DOING SIX, I'D WANT US, I WOULD WANT TO, UM, LOOK AT EIGHT. IF FOR THE FIRST YEAR I HAVE TO PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE THAT OUT OF CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL PROJECT BUDGETS TO SUPPORT MOMS AND STUFF, I'D, I'D DO THAT. UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, UH, WOULD BE FOR, UM, ON THE ADOPTION SIDE. SO ON THE ADOPTION SIDE, YOU BASICALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. ONE SCENARIO IS SOMEONE IS ADOPTING, YOU KNOW, UH, AN INFANT OR A VERY YOUNG CHILD, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN AN ADOPTION SCENARIO, EVEN THOUGH THERE ISN'T THE PHYSICAL COMPLICATIONS FOR THE BIRTH MOTHER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AS FAR AS WHY THAT CHILD IS BEING ADOPTED. USUALLY THERE'S A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THERE THAT WARRANT A LOT OF, A LOT OF CARE AND SUPPORT. AND SO I WOULD MIRROR THE SAME, UH, PATERNITY MATERNITY LEAVE THAT WE GIVE OUR BIRTH MOTHERS AND, AND PARTNERS. UH, I'D OFFER THAT SAME BENEFIT. I'D WANT TO SEE US FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SUPPORT A BUDGET AS A COUNCIL THAT WOULD OFFER THAT FOR OUR ADOPTING, UH, MOMS AND DADS. IF YOU PIVOT AWAY FROM A EARTH SCENARIO AND GO INTO A TEENAGER OF SOMEONE WHO'S BEING ADOPTED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PERSON COMING INTO A NEW FAMILY SYSTEM. UH, AND THAT CREATES A LOT OF, UH, JUST CHALLENGES, UH, THAT MIGHT NOT WARRANT, YOU KNOW, A FULL SIX OR EIGHT WEEKS, UH, WHEN THEY'RE INITIALLY ADOPTED. BUT AS THINGS HAPPEN AND CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH COUNSELORS AND SCHOOL AND THINGS, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THAT YEAR, THAT FIRST YEAR OF ADOPTION, THERE MIGHT NEED, NEED TO BE SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND THEN AS AN ADDITIONAL THING, I WOULD LOOK AT OR PROPOSE THAT WE LOOK AT WOULD BE FOSTER CARE. SO WE KNOW THAT THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA HAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT E OF FOSTER CARE. OUR VALUES AROUND OUR CITY AND REFLECTED IN OUR EMPLOYEES IS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, STRONG FAMILIES AND A STRONG COMMUNITY AND IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OPEN UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO FOSTER KIDS. UM, SO I WOULD LOOK AT A BENEFIT OF WHERE WE CAN HAVE ONE TO TWO DAYS OF, UM, THOSE THAT QUALIFY TO BECOME FOSTER FAMILIES. THEY HAVE USUALLY HAVE TO GO TO COURT DATES, THEY HAVE TO GO TO EMERGENCY, UH, EITHER MEDICAL FAMILY THINGS, IS THAT IF WE DO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO'S PARTICIPATING IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM AND RECOGNITION OF THAT SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SERVICE THAT THEIR FAMILY'S DOING, THAT WE LOOK AT ONE TO TWO YEARS, OBVIOUSLY ALL THAT HAS A FISCAL IMPACT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE OF ME TO BE ABLE TO THROW OUT A POLICY IDEA WITH, UH, VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE CURRENT, UH, CURRENT FINANCIAL WISE. BUT I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, UH, WE WOULD SUPPORT THOSE THINGS. AND IF WE HAVE TO GET CREATIVE ON BUDGET, WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE MY GENERAL RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I LIKE THE, THE POSSIBILITY, NOT THAT WE ARE EXPANDING, WE CALL IT PATERNITY LEAVE. I CALL IT THE CHANGE OF LIFE, UM, FROM MY WORKING IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY. UH, WHEN THE INSURANCE LOOKED AT THAT PERSON, THEY LOOKED, IT WAS A CHANGE OF LIFE FOR THEM. DOESN'T MATTER IF IT WAS THE MOTHER, FATHER, UH, DURING THE BIRTH OR ADOPTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND MY QUESTION IS ON THIS, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT POSITIVE, POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY OUR INSURANCE? IS IT ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THAT FOR, OR IS THIS SOMETHING SEPARATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS SEPARATE. THIS IS SEPARATE. MM-HMM. . VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. UM, I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS MY DAUGHTER TOOK THE JOB WHERE SHE IS, IS BECAUSE OF THE MATERNITY LEAVE. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT ATTRACTION TOOL. MM-HMM. . SO I, I MEAN, WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY JUST INSTRUCT STAFF IS BEFORE WE LOOK AT, UM, THE TOTAL BUDGET HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, I'D LOVE TO SEE THE NUMBERS TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF WE CAN, WE'RE HEADED ON THE RIGHT TRACK. WE'RE GONNA OFFER SOME OF THOSE BENEFITS. AND THEN ONE, CAN WE BE THE LEADER AMONGST OUR PEERS AND REALLY SET OUT A MARKER AMONGST OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK OUR TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS WOULD SUPPORT, UH, THAT WE DO EIGHT WEEKS IF WE CAN, LOOKING HOW WE COULD MIRROR THAT, UH, SIX OR EIGHT WEEKS, UH, FOR OUR ADOPTED FOLKS, FIGURING OUT IF WE CAN PROVIDE A DAY OR TWO OF FLEX FOR THOSE WHO, UH, SUPPORT FOSTER CARE. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, I KNOW LIKE EVAN PO SCHOOLS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING TO TRACK AND RETAIN TALENT, AND THEY DO HAVE A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN THAT THEY ARE BEING ABLE TO HAVE A FACILITY, UH, QUITE HOWELL, UH, THAT THEY CAN CONVERT OVER, BUT COME THIS UPCOMING YEAR FOR ALL THEIR ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES, WHICH I'M TOLD IS FILLING UP RAPIDLY WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CHILDCARE THERE. UH, THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TODAY OR EVEN [01:15:01] TOMORROW, BUT AS WE LOOK AT CAPITAL BUDGETS, I'D LOVE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT SORT OF THE SEDIMENT OR POSSIBILITY IF, IF EMPLOYEES HAD THAT, WHO WOULD UTILIZE LIKE ANONYMOUSLY, LIKE WHAT THE DEMAND IS, AND THEN IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF CAPITAL ALLOCATION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR BEYOND, UH, FOR PROVIDING THAT BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE, UH, A FAMILY CENTERED EMPLOYER OF CHOICE. OKAY. SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO HEARING IS WE'LL PROVIDE BEFORE THE NEXT COUNSEL, BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET HEARING. AND AT THE BUDGET HEARING, WE'LL PROVIDE, I'LL CALL IT A TIERED YEAH, YEAH. CHOICES TO SELECT FROM. I'M SURE IF YOU ASK MY MOM 24 HOURS IS PROBABLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER TO ADJUST TO ME , SO THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, AND THERE'S OPTIONS. I MEAN, YOU CAN CHOOSE THOSE OPTIONS. YOU CAN EVEN CHOOSE TO HAVE NO BENEFITS. SO, UM, JUST MAKING THOSE OPTIONS AVAILABLE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. THANK YOU. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT'S, I, I LIKE THAT WE'RE BEING CREATIVE AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SALARY WISE, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY COMPETE WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATE EMPLOYERS, BUT, UM, THAT'S NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO, TO A LOT OF POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES. AND EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT PERSONALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE POLICIES, I THINK THE MESSAGE THAT IT SENDS, UM, IS IMPORTANT. AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, WOW, I DID GET EIGHT WEEKS OF MATERNITY LEAVE. THE, THE LOYALTY, I THINK THAT INSTILLS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING UNIQUE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I MM-HMM. , I'M CURIOUS TO EXPLORE THAT MORE TOO. OKAY. ESPECIALLY GIVEN WE HAVE 52 OPENINGS AND THE TURNOVER RATE AND, YOU KNOW, THINKING CREATIVELY. YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WELL, WE'LL GET YOU SOME ANSWERS NEXT. UH, ALSO WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING IS A BILINGUAL PAY POLICY. AND WHAT THIS BILINGUAL PAY POLICY, IT OFFERS $50 A MONTH, UH, COMPENSATION TO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FLUENT IN A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. AND THIS INITIATIVE IS GONNA RECOGNIZE AND VALUE THE SKILLS OF THE BILINGUAL EMPLOYEES. MM-HMM. , THAT'S GREAT. LOT OF THIS WAY IS WE MAY HAVE A CUSTOMER THAT COMES, YOU CHOOSE A CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE, AND INSTEAD OF STAFF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE, WE CAN CALL ON MM-HMM. , CAROL DAVIS, WHO SPEAKS FLUENT WHATEVER, FARI, , FOR EXAMPLE. FARI TO COME AND HELP OUT AND DO THAT. BUT THEY HAVE TO PASS PROFICIENCY TESTS MM-HMM. , UH, AND HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO COME, YOU KNOW, WORK IN CUSTOMER SERVICE AT SPECIFIC TIMES TO ADDRESS THAT. WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING THE GREATEST SUPPORTIVE CUSTOMER SERVICE BECAUSE THERE'S A LANGUAGE BARRIER. MM-HMM. , WE'D EXPAND THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MEET THEM ON THEIR TURF VERSUS TOUGH. WE, WE CAN'T DEAL WITH YOU. IT'D BE A GREAT SPOT FOR AN INTERN. YEAH. AMEN. NICE. GOOD POINT. LEVEL. MARY, YOU SPEAK, MARY, YOU SPEAK FARSI. THAT'S AWESOME. . NO, I DON'T. BUT, BUT, BUT SERIOUSLY, I KNOW. I WAS LIKE, WAIT, DID I JUST LEARN? BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND ESPECIALLY IN EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AT ONE TIME, FARSI WAS THE NUMBER ONE FOREIGN LANGUAGE SPOKE IN OUR SCHOOLS. REALLY. UH, I KNOW THAT I THINK POLICE HAS A NEED FOR SOMEONE TO SPEAK AS A, A DIFFERENT LINK FIRE MIGHT EVEN ALSO, AND EVEN CUSTOMER SERVICE WHEN THE, THE UTILITY PERSON'S GOING OUT BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY, THE DIVERSITY OF A COMMUNITY IS DEFINITELY EXPANDING MM-HMM. . AND, AND SO, AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP RECOGNIZE AND, AND PROVIDE BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE, CORRECT. MM-HMM. , ALSO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS USING ARPA FUNDS, UH, UP TO 2% TO OFFSET INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS. UH, LAST YEAR, UH, THE CITY MANAGER, UH, UM, ASKED IF WE COULD USE ARPA FUNDS. AND WE PAID THE INCREASE IN PREMIUMS AT A HUNDRED PERCENT, WHICH IS AROUND $174,000. UM, MOST LIKELY, UM, IT'LL PROBABLY BE GOING UP AT 3%. I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT OF HOW MUCH IT'S GOING UP BECAUSE OUR HEALTH BENEFITS ARE ON A CALENDAR YEAR VERSUS A FISCAL YEAR. AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA IN TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. SO A QUESTION ON THAT. SO I LOVE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET CREATIVE AND HELP, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE, UM, INFLATION THAT'S HAPPENING TO HELP GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, AN INDIRECT RAISE BY HO HOLDING HARMLESS. THAT WHAT HAPPENS. SO WE ARPA FUNDS, THERE'S SOME TIMELINE TO THAT AT SOME POINT, I DUNNO, FIVE YEARS OUT, THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE DEDICATED. WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WHEN THAT CLIFF DROPS. IF I'M AN EMPLOYEE YEAR 2028, DO I ALL OF A SUDDEN SEE [01:20:01] LIKE A 12% INCREASE IN ONE YEAR? IS THAT POTENTIALLY THAT COULD BE THE CASE? UM, AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO JUST DO 2%. SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WENT UP 3%, WE'D COVER THE FIRST 2% THAT THE EMPLOYEE WOULD SEE, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM. A COST INCREASE TO START, I'LL CALL IT, GETTING THEM USED TO THE, I'LL CALL IT THE LIKELY INCREASES THAT MAY FACE, UM, OUR MEDICAL AND DENTAL COVERAGE AND BENEFIT COVERAGE. CAUSE AT SOME POINT OUR USED OPERA WILL FALL OFF. MM-HMM. . UM, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE IT CONTINUALLY. UM, SO THIS IS A, I CALL IT'S A SHORT TERM BENEFIT, BUT IS A, IT IS A DIRECT BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, DOLLARS TODAY THAT I SAVE AS AN EMPLOYEE VERSUS DOLLARS IN 28. THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE THAT SAY, I GOTTA, I GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT THIS YEAR VERSUS 28. I'LL DEAL WITH 28 DOWN THE LINE. BUT YEAH, THERE'S NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STEM SOME OF THE INCREASES WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE. JUST ONE WAY TO DO THAT. AND IT IS A, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN INCREASE. IT IS A FINANCIAL BURDEN TO OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, WITH THOSE INSURANCE PREMIUMS. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD LOOK BACK AND SEE TWO YEARS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD A, A INCREASE IN PREMIUMS. AND IT, IT'S A BENEFIT ALSO. ALSO, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A TALENT COORDINATOR POSITION. AND WHAT THIS POSITION IS, IS BECAUSE, UM, IT IS TOUGH TO ATTRACT INDIVIDUALS TO GOVERNMENTAL TYPE POSITIONS, UH, THIS POSITIONS HER, THE MAIN RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS PERSON IS, UM, ATTRACTING, SOURCING AND RECRUITING TOP TALENT. THAT MEANS HITTING ALL OF THE SOCIAL PLATFORMS THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT NOWADAYS. UM, JOB FAIRS, CONNECTING WITH COLLEGES, VO-TECH, HIGH SCHOOLS, UH, JUST BASICALLY MARKETING AND, UM, MAKING THE CITY A PLACE TO BE. THE EMPLOYER OF THE CITY OF EDMOND. IT, UM, BRANDING THE CITY OF EDMOND, OUR PAYING COMPENSATION STUDY. OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE FOR THE PAY AND COMPENSATION STUDY WAS TO LOOK AT, SEE, UM, FAIR AND EQUITABLE SALARIES BASED ON INTERNAL JOB REQUIREMENTS AND LOOK AT ALSO AT THE COMPETITIVE EXTERNAL PAY FOR COMPARABLE POSITIONS WITHIN THE REGION. AND ALSO MAINTAIN A COMPENSATION PLAN THAT IS ALIGNED WITH AND SUPPORTS THE GOALS OF THE CITY. WHEN WE CONTRACTED WITH A CONSULTANT TO CONDUCT A PAY AND COMPENSATION STUDY FOR OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, AND THIS IS JUST GENERAL EMPLOYEES, IT'S NOT POLICE AND FIRE, UM, WE LOOKED AT THE, THE CONSULTANT WAS TASKED WITH CONDUCTING A, A THOROUGH STUDY TO HELP US UNDERSTAND OUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE AND WHAT IT COMPARES TO WITH OTHER, LIKE CITIES, UM, WITH OTHER, LIKE CITIES IN SURROUNDING STATES. WE ALSO COMPARED IT TO UCO, UH, EDMOND SCHOOLS AND COMPARED IT TO TULSA AND OKLAHOMA CITY. SINCE THEY'RE IN OUR RIGHT SIDE OF OUR BACK DOOR. WE LOOKED AT THE BENCHMARKING FOR THOSE CITIES. WE DID A JOB OF, WELL, THE CONSULTANT DID A JOB EVALUATION. WE ALSO LOOKED AT A COMPENSATION ANALYSIS, THE CON THE, WE INSTRUCTED THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT OUR PAY STRUCTURE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 35 GRADES AND WE HAVE 17 STEPS WITHIN THAT GRADE. AND IF I WAS A NEW EMPLOYEE COMING IN, I WOULD THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE ME 17 YEARS TO REACH THE TOP OF MY PAY GRADE. AND, AND IT IS A TWO AND A HALF PERCENT BETWEEN EACH GRADE. SO WE HAD HIM ALSO LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN WE, WE LOOKED ALSO AT THE INTERNAL EQUITY WITHIN THE, THE CITY. THESE ARE THE CITIES THAT WE BENCHMARK TO. UH, CURRENTLY WE ARE 5.4% UNDER MARKET OKLAHOMA CITY. WERE 18.6% UNDER LAWRENCE, KANSAS, 7.3, NORMAN, 6.9 MORE, 3.8 MIDWEST CITY, 2.6, UH, UCO AND STILLWATER, UH, 1.8 AND 2.4. [01:25:03] WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO COUNCIL AND, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS FOR THE ATTRACTION OF TWO R POSITIONS AND THEN ALSO RETAINING OUR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES. UM, PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL IS A FIVE, 5.4% PAY PLAN ADJUSTMENT, EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2023. AND THIS IS ALL BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CONSULTANT. EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2024 IS TO ADOPT A PROPOSED SALARY PLAN MOVING FROM 17 STEPS WITHIN A PAY GRADE TO 10 STEPS. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A 4.6% BETWEEN EACH STEP. AND, UM, COMPARED TO THE 2.5 THAT WE HAVE NOW EMPLOYEES, WHEN WE MOVE INTO THE PAYING COMPENSATION OR THE PAY PLAN FOR THE 10 STEPS, THEY WILL RECEIVE THAT 4.6% WHEN THEY REACH THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE OF THAT YEAR. THE PERSONNEL BUDGET FOR FISCAL BILL 24 WILL EXPERIENCE A 2.8% INCREASE, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.7 MILLION. AND THIS IS PRIMARILY ATTRIBUTED TO THE 5.5 0.4%, UH, MARKET ADJUSTMENT REDUCTION IN STEPS AND ANNUAL STEP INCREASES, AND ALSO PROPOSED ADDED POSITIONS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? INTRIGUING THOSE FROM 17 TO 10. SO IF I'M LIKE, UH, X ENGINEER, IS IT ALSO, DOES THIS PLAN ALSO EXPAND THE TOP END OF THE PAY BAND? OR DOES IT STAY THE, DOES IT STAY THE SAME? THE, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE EXPANSION OF THE TOP END IS THAT 5.4% MARKET ADJUSTMENT. WHAT WE DO IS WE APPLY THAT 5.4 TO THE PAY PLAN AS A WHOLE. OKAY. SO IF I LIKE FOR SIMPLE MATH, LIKE IF, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS THE TOP END FOR A CERTAIN POSITION, NOW A FIVE, LIKE A 5.4 OR WHATEVER INCREASE WOULD BE INCLUDED UHHUH IN THAT. IS THERE ANY VARIANCE FOR, UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN EVERY, PROBABLY EVERY DEPARTMENT, THERE'S JUST ONE OR TWO POSITIONS THAT JUST HAVE SUCH HIGH TECHNICAL NEED, WHETHER THAT'S AN ENGINEERING POSITION THAT'S SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN JOB FUNCTION OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, OR A FINANCE POSITION THAT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO FILL BECAUSE IT'S A CERTAIN FUNCTION. IS THERE FLEXIBILITY LIKE WITH YOU AND SCOTT TO BE ABLE TO GO ABOVE THAT? OR IS IT JUST A HARD CAP? THE PROBLEM WITH, UM, SCOTT, DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS? GO AHEAD. THE PROBLEM WITH IS A, UM, COMPRESSION ISSUE, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE A CIVIL ENGINEER AND THE NEXT POSITION UP IS THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, THEN YOU GET INTO THAT COMPRESSION ISSUE WITH A DIRECTOR AND A CIVIL ENGINEER. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HIERARCHY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF AND THE HIERARCHY WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF. UH, NOW OBJECTIVELY WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY IS IF THERE'S CERTAIN POSITION HAS SUCH UNIQUE ASPECTS TO IT, THAT MAY INSTEAD OF, I'LL CALL IT INCREASING THAT, DUNNO WHAT YOU CALL IT. I'M GETTING MY TERM WRONG. PAY BAN, PAY BAN HIGHER. BECAUSE OF THAT, FOR THAT SPECIFIC POSITION, WE MAY CREATE A NEW POSITION THAT MORE ADDRESSES THOSE SPECIFIC NEEDS. SO INSTEAD OF, LET'S SAY AN ENGINEER ONE, THIS IS A HYDRO SOMETHING, WHATEVER IT IS, WITH THEIR OWN UNIQUE WITHIN THE PAY STEP. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. BUT NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT PAY GRADE. IF YOU CAN FOLLOW, THAT WOULD HAVE A HIGHER CAP THAN THE ORIGINAL SLOTTED POSITION. YEP. OKAY. AND WE ALSO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, LIKE WITH 10 STEPS. UH, WE'VE BROUGHT IN PEOPLE IF WE'VE WANTED THEM, WE'VE STARTED THEM AT THE TOP STEP OR AROUND THE TOP STEP. NOW. NOW THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS, LET'S SAY JUST A 10 YEAR, 10 STEP AS 10 YEARS. SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, HEY, IN 10 YEARS I'LL TOP OUT THAT'S TRUE. THAT CURRENT POSITION, THE GOAL IS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO FIND NEW SKILLS, DEVELOP THEMSELVES. AND SO YEAH, YOU MAY TOP OUT AT THAT FOR THAT SPECIFIC POSITION, BUT IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR ENGINEERING TWO POSITION VERSUS NEW ENGINEERING ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF CERTIFICATES OR WHATEVER TO MOVE INTO THAT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST KEEP ADDING STEPS ON THAT. WE WANT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO GROW THEIR, THEIR OPPORTUNITIES. IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO GROW, THAT MAY BE, THAT MAY BE THE REAL RESULT. YOU MAY TOP OUT. UM, BUT WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR GET OTHER SKILLS THAT THEY CAN EVENTUALLY MOVE UP TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. OKAY. THAT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE FOR, TO GO TO A 10 YEAR STEP AND YOU'RE GOING [01:30:01] TO GET A, A STEP EVERY YEAR. UM, AND THEN YOU TOP OUT A 10, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE IN A GOOD WAY OR A BAD WAY? UM, IT DEPENDS BECAUSE WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE LOOKING TO WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO AFTER 10 YEARS, THEY'RE GONNA BE TOP AT AT THE MOST. BUT I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS MAYBE YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT POSITION THAT HAS A HIGHER MAINTENANCE. I, I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT UM, I JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. AND, AND SO IT IS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE IS WHAT DO THEY DO IF THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A USEFUL, UH, GROUP OF EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY AT THE LEADERSHIP LEVEL, THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO BECAUSE UNLESS YOU LEAVE, IF YOU SITTING, KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT EMPLOYEES WILL DO, THEY WILL CALCULATE HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR 'EM TO GET THERE. AND THEN THEY WILL LOOK AT DARRYL DAVIS, HE'S X YEARS OLD. THEY WILL CALCULATE IN THEIR MIND, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHEN I'M GONNA RETIRE. GOOD TO SEE IF THAT POSITION. AND SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT IS I'M UP. CAUSE I'M USED TO SEEING WHERE IN YOUR STEPS THERE'S MAYBE TWO TO THREE YEARS YOU HAVE TO WORK IN THOSE STEPS BEFORE YOU, YOU, YOU GO, GO UP THE CHAIN. IT, AT LEAST YOU CAN TELL ME. IT WAS A DILEMMA FOR US BECAUSE AT 17 STEPS, IT'S REALLY TOUGH, ESPECIALLY WITH NEW RECRUITS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE A FEW YEARS TO THINK I NEED TO STAY 17 YEARS MM-HMM. TO GET THAT. WE, WE WERE FINDING MORE AND MORE TURNOVER BECAUSE IF YOUR ANNUAL STEP WAS ONLY TWO AND A HALF PERCENT MM-HMM. , IT REALLY IS TOUGH TO SAY, HEY, STAY ANOTHER YEAR. VERSUS IF WE CAN SHOW A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT, THEY'LL SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA GIVE 'EM A GOOD 10 YEARS AND IF I GROW MORE SKILLS, IF IT CAN MOVE ON OR MOVE UP, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA FACE THE CHALLENGE OF, OF TOPPING OUT SOMEBODY WITHIN ORGANIZATIONS. AND QUITE HONESTLY, THAT'S WHY I LEFT A COUPLE OF MY ORGANIZATIONS TO TOPPED OUT THERE, ONE, OUR OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN AS A GREAT EMPLOYEE, BUT THERE WASN'T OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY. SO THAT WAS THE OPTION. MM-HMM. , UM, I'M GETTING USED. SO THERE'S NO PERFECT ANSWER TO THIS. WE'RE JUST, THE REALITY IS, IS WE FINDING MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES JUST IN GENERAL IS RECRUIT PEOPLE DON'T STAY AS LONG AS THEY DO IN A SINGLE JOB ANYMORE. THERE'S MORE AND MORE TURNOVER ON CAREERS. I'M GONNA USE JANE AS AN EXAMPLE. WHEN WE WERE DISC, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE PAY PLAN WITH HER, AND I ASKED HER WHAT HER THOUGHTS WERE ON THE 10 STEP, AND SHE SAID, YOUNG PEOPLE WON'T STAY 10 YEARS, UH, BECAUSE, AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THE CITY, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE MOVING ON THREE TO FIVE YEARS, THEY'RE MOVING ON TO ANOTHER POSITION. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL MOVE ON TO ANOTHER POSITION WITH THE CITY OF EDMONT. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. DO WE HAVE, AND I ECHO THAT SENTIMENT THAT SHE SAYS, I THINK THAT'S COMMONLY ACCEPTED PRACTICE KIND OF AMONG SHERM OR HR SORT OF PRACTITIONERS OF WHERE THE CURRENT GENERATION IS AT. IF EMPLOYEE A AND EMPLOYEE B GET HIRED FOR THE SAME POSITION, THEY COME UP ON THEIR ONE YEAR IS AND, AND CLEARLY YOU SAY, OKAY, EMPLOYEE A KNOCKED OUT OF THE PARK, EMPLOYEE B DID GOOD, THAT DIDN'T CATCH ON AS FAST OR NEEDED MORE COACHING OR, OR IT'S PROBABLY, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST HAS A DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY AND POTENTIAL OF IMPACT. IS THE ONLY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THEM ON THAT REVIEW IS FOR THEM BOTH TO GO UP ONE STEP OR CAN WE TAKE EMPLOYEE A AND SAY, WE'RE TAKING YOU FROM STEP ONE AND IN RECOGNITION OF, YOU KNOW, LEADING THIS NEW PROJECT THAT CITY COUNCIL, UH, CAME UP WITH AND WE THREW IN YOUR LAP, UH, WE'RE GONNA BRING YOU FROM STEP ONE TO STEP THREE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE, WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR AN EMPLOYEE? YES. WE, THERE IS THAT OPTION. UM, AND DIRECTORS AND SUPERVISORS, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO JUSTIFY THAT IT IS BASED ON PERFORMANCE. UH, AND IS THERE THAT OPTION TO HAVE A TWO STEP INCREASE? UM, IF A, IF A EMPLOYEE IS NOT DOING SO WELL AND, AND IS LACKING IN A CERTAIN SKILL, UH, OR PERFORMANCE SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE DO ALSO PUT THEM ON A PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND IT COULD, YOU'VE GOT THREE MONTHS MAYBE TAKE THIS TRAINING AND THEN YOU WOULD RECEIVE YOUR STEP INCREASE AT THAT TIME. MM-HMM. IF IMPROVEMENT IN PERFORMANCE OR YOU NEED A CERTAIN TRAINING. SO WE DO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. SO I LIKE THAT. HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS RETAIN SOME OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING KNOCKS ON THEIR DOOR OR LINKEDIN PROFILES AND WHATNOT TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THAT THEY HAVE A SUPPORTED FUTURE. I LIKE THAT. OH, I THINK ALL RAISES SHOULD BE PERFORMANCE BASED. [01:35:01] MM-HMM. , PERIOD. ANYTHING ELSE? YES, MA'AM. UH, THE CONSULTANT THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER ON THE, AND CAME UP WITH THE 5.4 UHHUH , DID THAT INCLUDE COST OF LIVING INFLATION? UH, UH, AND ALSO, AND THAT'S MAINLY, THAT'S ALSO WHY WE'RE DOING A 10 STEP IS BECAUSE THE 5.4%, UH, WILL GIVE THEM, BRING US TO MARKET AND THEN THE 4.6% BETWEEN EACH STEP WOULD BRING US TO LOOKING AT, UM, THE INCREASE, THE POSSIBLE INCREASE IN, IN, IN EMPLOYMENT IS 5.4, ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PROBLEM. WE HOPE, WELCOME TO TAKE CARE OF IT. , DO WHAT WHAT FIGURE WOULD GET YOU PAST WE HOPE? WELL, I, I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO, I THINK IT'S GONNA HELP ATTRACT, I THINK IT'S GONNA HELP RETAIN, AND THAT WAS OUR MAIN GOAL. AND I THINK ALSO THIS 10 STEP PAY PLAN WILL HELP ALSO ATTRACT AND RETAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO RECEIVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY A EMPLOYEE COULD RECEIVE 5.4% AND THEN AT THEIR ANNIVERSARY OF 4.6% THAT FIRST YEAR. AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU REGROUP AND UHHUH. . YEAH. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. THAT WAS WHAT WAS MY RESPONSE, IS MY GUESS IS DEPENDING ON THE VOLATILITY OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE EMPLOYMENT MARKETS, WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK IN 2, 3, 4 YEARS AND SAY IT'S BEEN MODERATELY SUCCESSFUL, WE'VE FALLEN BACK BELOW OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I THINK THE, OUR MESSAGE HERE IS, IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BECOME ALMOST LIKE WE'D LOOKED AT FEES WHERE INSTEAD OF WAITING 21 YEARS TO DO FEE INCREASES MM-HMM. TO SAY, HEY, PERIODICALLY WE NEED TO BE GOING BACK OUT MM-HMM. EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS OF THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT TO SEE WHERE WE STAND. UM, IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, I'VE, I'VE SEEN, I'LL CALL IT EMPLOYMENT WARS WHERE HEY, SOMEBODY RAISED 5% AND THE NEXT CITY SAYS, WELL, I'M GONNA RAISE THE 5.6 AND IT'S, BUT RIGHT NOW JUST, WE'VE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE MM-HMM. AND WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT THIS FIRST YEAR RESULT IS AND SEE IF WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY. IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TINKER WITH IT. AND I MEAN, IT'S MEASURABLE. I MEAN YEAH. RATE, YOU CAN LOOK AT NUMBERS, POSITIONS, I MEAN IT'S, ARE ARE ALL THE THINGS MM-HMM. , RIGHT? I GO, YEAH. I GO BACK TO LISA'S COMMENT ABOUT WE THOUGHT OUR PERSONNEL BUDGET WAS GONNA BE, WHAT WAS IT, 95 MILLION? THAT WAS ACTUALLY 80 WHATEVER, 89 MM-HMM. . YOU CAN SAY, WELL THAT'S GREAT YOU SAVED ALL THAT MONEY, BUT REALLY THAT HAS LOST RESOURCES CAPITAL NOT SAYING THAT, I'M SAYING 5.4 CAN BE HIGHER IF IT HELPS. MM-HMM. . YEAH. MM-HMM. , WE'LL HAVE TO, WE OUGHT TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE OVER THIS FIRST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. UM, WE HOPE THAT, UH, OUR TURNOVER RATE DOES GO DOWN. UM, BUT LIKE SCOTT SAID, YEAH, WE'RE HOPING OUR, OUR FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA, LIKE NON DOCS WOULD WRITE SOMETHING TO SAY, EDMOND'S A GREAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN AWARD-WINNING PATERNITY MATERNITY PLAN. THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. THAT'S RIGHT. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I WANNA ADD IS THE CITY OF EDMOND, WE HAVE EXCELLENT BENEFITS AND I'M GONNA TOUCH ON ONE OF, UH, THE BENEFITS THAT WE OFFER OUR CITY. THAT'S GOOD. PASTOR, LET ME JUST SAY THIS BEFORE YOU GO PAST, I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME. MY EXPERIENCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOP NOTCH WITH WHOEVER, WHICH DEPARTMENT I'M DEALING WITH MM-HMM. . AND WE'RE ASKING CITY EMPLOYEES TO DO MORE. OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN. WE'VE GOT PROJECTS ALL OVER TOWN. UH, I WANT YOU TO THINK LONG AND HARD IF 5.4 IS ENOUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU. FAIR POINT. MM-HMM. , I MEAN, THE OTHER POINT I WOULD SAY IN TANDEM, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MADE A SIGNIFICANT DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, RECENTLY JUST RENDERED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WEIGH IN ON IT RATHER PUBLICLY, IS THAT WE'LL HAVE, UH, INCREASING FACILITIES THAT'LL ATTRACT AND RETAIN TALENT. MM-HMM. AND, UH, I'VE BEEN UP TO NORTH TIMBERS AND OTHER PLACES I THINK ARE, FROM A FACILITY STANDPOINT, WE'RE ALSO REFLECTING THE TYPE OF TALENT THAT WE WANT TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN. AND SO HOPEFULLY THOSE TWO THINGS IN TANDEM WILL BE MULTIPLIERS. UH, TO BE ABLE TO, WE LOOK OUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IS THAT WE'RE AN EMPLOYER CONTINUE TO BE AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE THAT OFFERS GOOD SUPPORT AND BENEFITS, UM, WHERE WE CAN ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE TOP TALENT THAT WE NEED. OKAY. I'M GONNA SAY IT, BUT WE GOTTA PAY FOR IT SOMEHOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE. I MEAN, WHERE DO WE TAKE THE FUNDS FROM? IF, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO REALLOCATE THEM FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT OUR, THE SURROUNDING CITIES ARE DOING WITH RESPECT TO THEIR, [01:40:01] UM, UH, PARENTING POLICIES AS WELL AS INCREASE. AND I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING MORE IF WE THINK IT'LL, IT'LL WORK, BUT WE GOTTA PAY FOR IT. THIS IS OUR PROJECTION FIVE YEAR PERSONNEL BUDGET. UM, AGAIN, 101 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. IT DOES GO UP ABOUT 4% FROM 24 TO 25. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE A FULL YEAR OF THAT 10 STEP ADJUSTMENT. IN 24. IT ONLY HAS A HALF A YEAR OF THAT 10, 10 STEP ADJUSTMENT. THE OUTER YEARS, IT'S ABOUT A 2%, UH, INCREASE BETWEEN EACH YEAR. ALSO, Y YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EXCELLENT BENEFITS FOR OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES. AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUR EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC. IT'S A, A CLINIC THAT IS FREE OF CHARGE TO EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IF THEY'RE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE EMPLOYEES ON OUR INSURANCE PLAN. AND THAT'S LABS, THAT IS PHS, THAT IS GENERIC PRESCRIPTIONS. AND OUR TOTAL FIXED COST FOR 23 WAS 6 93. OUR TOTAL FIXED COST FOR 24 WAS 720,000. AND THIS IS ALLOCATED BACK OUT TO EACH DEPARTMENT BY BUDGETED, DIVIDED BY BUDGETED POSITION, WHICH IS ABOUT 856 PER POSITION IN 22. OUR CLINIC VISIT WAS AT 3,187 AND 21. IT WAS AT 3,243. OUR RX ORDERS 5,846 LABS 1,722. OUR PHYSICAL ASSESSMENTS ARE 417, WHICH I THINK THAT THEY ARE UP FROM LAST YEAR. UH, VIRTUAL VISITS ARE UP, THEY ARE AT 690 AND THEN OUR RAPID COVID TEST ARE AT HUNDRED 61. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. SO RETIREMENT PLAN, UHHUH, IS THAT, IS THERE A RETIREMENT PLAN TRANSFERRABLE YOU, FIRST OF ALL, DO WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE TRA RETIREMENT PLAN? IT IS SELF-FUNDED RETIREMENT PLAN. SELF-FUNDED. MM-HMM. . SO IF I EMPLOYEE X DECIDE TO LEAVE HERE, IS THAT TRANSFERRABLE TO MY NEXT EMPLOYEE? NO. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT THEY'VE PUT IN, WELL, THEY COULD MOVE TO AN IRA AND THEN PLACE THAT IN. RIGHT. IF THE EMPLOYER ACCEPTS IT. YEAH. UH, THE NEXT EMPLOYER, THEY COULD TAKE THAT LUMP SUM AND PLACE THAT INTO, UH, WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE. BUT THERE'S NO MATCHING BY THE, THERE'S NO, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A VESTING COMPONENT, BUT WHAT THEY PUT IN, THEY COULD THEN MOVE TO A ROLE OF IRA OR A NEWIN INVESTING, WHAT HAVE YOU. YES. SO IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW, IS IT A DEFINED BENEFIT PENSION BENEFIT BENEFIT PLAN FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES? POLICE, FIRE, HAVE THEIR OWN. OKAY. WELL, YOU DO MATCH AND THE, THE CITY DOES MATCH IN EXCESS OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE EMPLOYEE IS, IS PARTICIPATING IN THE, IN THE, UH, RETIREMENT PLAN. THERE IS, THERE IS A CERTAIN FORMULA, MM-HMM. , UM, AND THEY HAVE, UH, 10 OPTIONS THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM UNDER THE PENSION PLAN. IT IS A VERY GOOD, AND I, AND I WILL SAY I WILL USE ME AS AN EXAMPLE, BEEN HERE 34 YEARS AND WITH MY SOCIAL SECURITY AND MY PENSION, I'LL BE MAKING 105% OF MY SALARY. SO IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PENSION PLAN. SO THERE IS BOTH A RETIRE SELF-FUNDED RETIREMENT PLAN AS WELL AS A PENSION PLAN. IT, IT'S A, THAT IS THE PENSION PLAN. THE SELF-FUNDED RETIREMENT PLAN. NOW, WE DO ALSO OFFER A 4 57, WHICH IS, UM, IT SOLELY, UH, EMPLOYEES CAN SOLELY PLACE THEIR MONEY IN THAT 4 57. THE CITY MAKES NO CONTRIBUTIONS TO THAT. BECAUSE I WAS ASKING EARLIER, I MEAN, THE CITY DOES MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO YES, OUR DEFINED BENEFIT RETIREMENT PLAN, THE D DEFINED BENEFIT RETIREMENT PLAN. YES. MM-HMM. THIS, THE EMPLOYEES MAKE A 6% CONTRIBUTION. THE CITY MAKES A, IT'S INCREASING TO 11.19. AND SO, BACK TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION THOUGH. LET'S SAY SOMEONE WORKS HERE FOR FIVE YEARS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN FUNDS? THEY'RE NOT VESTED YET. THEY'RE VESTED AFTER SEVEN YEARS. OKAY. OKAY. AND IF THAT EMPLOYEE LEAVES, THEY WOULD RECEIVE THEIR PORTION, [01:45:01] RIGHT. THAT THEY, THAT THEY, UH, PLACED INTO THE PENSION. SO THERE IS A BENEFIT TO STAYING SEVEN YEARS OR MORE MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THEN YOU GET THAT VESTED PORTION. YEAH, SURE. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. YES. HOW, HOW COMMON IS THAT AS FAR AS AMONG PURE CITIES CONTINUING TO HAVE THE VESTED PLAN VERSUS LIKE THE 401K STUFF? IT IS VERY COMMON WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES TO HAVE A SELF-FUNDED PLAN. YEAH. AND THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS WHEN WE HIRE THAT PERSON TO HELP US, UM, USING YOU AS AN EXAMPLE, I KNOW THE YOUNGER GROUPS, THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT RETIREMENT, BUT IT'S HERE FASTER THAN THEY REALIZE. AND THEY NEED TO START MAKING THOSE DECISIONS NOW WHEN THEY'RE FIRST HIRED IN. AND THEY, SO THEY CAN SEE THE PATH THAT WHEN THEY GET AS OLD AS I AM, THEY'LL HAVE A RETIREMENT. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE YOUTH MOVING AROUND AND ALL THAT, BUT GUESS WHAT? MOVING AROUND WITH NO RETIREMENT PLAN, YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING MM-HMM. . AND SO WE NEED TO HELP THEM, EDUCATE THEM TO SHOW THAT THEY, THAT WE'RE PART OF THE PATH TO HELP THEM GET TO WHATEVER THAT END GOAL IS. THAT THEY MAY BE, THEY MIGHT NOT BE WORKING WITH US, BUT WORKING SOMEWHERE AND STAY AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS OR YOU'RE GIVING UP REAL MONEY. MM-HMM. , IT'S A NO-BRAINER. YEAH. WELL, AND THERE IS, UM, IN OKLAHOMA, THERE ARE CITIES THAT SHARE A RETIREMENT SYSTEM WHERE THE YEARS OF SERVICE CONTRIBUTED AT THESE VARIOUS CITIES ARE APPLICABLE. IF YOU MOVE TO A DIFFERENT CITY IN WASHINGTON STATE WHERE I WORKED SHORTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, THEY SHARED A RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE MATTERED AT WHATEVER CITY YOU WORKED IN. ACCOUNTED TOWARDS THAT. I I THINK THE BENEFIT TO EDMOND HERE IS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY CAPTURED JUST FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE AT EDMOND. SO YOU'RE WANTING TO HIT THAT. IF YOU, IF YOU EXIT AND COME BACK AND YOU PICK OFF WHERE YOU'RE AT, OR DO YOU GO BACK? YOU COULD BUY BACK. OH, YOU BUY BACK. I MEAN, IT'S AN INTERESTING THING CUZ IT'S A POWERFUL, POWERFUL INCENTIVE, ONE OF WHICH MOST PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN. AND YOU JUST OPPOSE THAT WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION. MM-HMM. , IT'S FREE MONEY. IT'S LIKE EXACTLY. I'M NEVER GONNA WORK ANYWHERE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. IT'S, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE, COUPLE YEARS. CUZ I AGREE WITH THE MAYORS THAT MM-HMM. SOME, UH, A LOT OF OUR YOUNGER WORKING FORCE EITHER DOESN'T DO THE MATH OR DOESN'T HAVE THAT PASSION AROUND, HEY, I'M GONNA RETIRE ONE DAY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? UM, CUZ YOU DON'T FIND THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, UH, MUCH, MUCH ANYMORE AS FAR AS OUR, OUR PUBLIC TRADED COMPANIES HAVE, HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM THAT, THAT MODEL. MM-HMM. , ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, KATHY, I'LL JUST COVER IT SO SHE DOESN'T JUMP BACK UP. MAYBE SHE DOES. OKAY. A JURY AWAY. , UM, OUR FRATERNAL ORDER, PLEASE. FIRE AND POLICE. WE'RE IN CURRENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH POLICE AND FIRE. UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET A, UH, CONTRACT IN JUNE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN TALKS WITH THEM. THANK YOU. NOW I'M DONE. DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? NOPE. OKAY. . OKAY. ALMOST DONE HERE. THEN YOU, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ANDY. JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST A LITTLE RECAP OF OUR COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS. UM, IT'S BASICALLY EVERYONE THAT WE ASSIST WITH, WITH SOME, WITH BASICALLY GENERAL FUND FUNDS. THE, UH, FINANCIAL IMPACT IS APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION. IT'S JUST RIGHT UNDER 2 MILLION. BUT BASICALLY IT'S OUR SER OUR SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, WHICH INCLUDE LIKE THE HOPE CENTER. UM, OH GOSH, I CAN'T THINK OF OTHER, IT'S, IT'S THE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, BUT IT'S, WE DON'T PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. SO WE GIVE GIVE FUNDS TO THE SOCIAL AGENCIES. COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT ARE THINGS LIKE, UH, LIBERTY FEST GIVE 550,000 TO THAT PARK CONSERVANCY TRUST. WE WILL BE GIVING $226,895 TO AND THAT'S OUR NEW, UM, THEY ADMINISTRATE ALL OF OUR ART THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ART AND PUBLIC PLACES IS OUR MATCHING FOR ART PIECES. THE CITY WILL MATCH UP TO $30,000 PER PIECE WHEN WE GET DONOR FUNDS. UM, WE WILL ONLY GO UP TO 30,000 PER PIECE. SO IF WE HAVE A $70,000 PIECE, THE DONOR WOULD GIVE 40, WE WOULD GIVE 30. AND THEN THE GUTHRIE REGIONAL AIRPORT. AIRPORT, THEY'VE GOT SOME NEW THINGS COMING UP. UH, WE'VE GIVEN 'EM A HUNDRED [01:50:01] THOUSAND IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, BUT WE'VE INCREASED IT TO 250,000. THEY'VE GOT A NEW TERMINAL IN THE WORKS. UH, SOME F UH, FCA, FCA A A NO F FAA, F FAA, . OKAY. UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE F WORDS, BUT IT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE FLIGHT PEOPLE. OKAY. SO THEY'RE, BUT THEY'VE GOT SOME GRANTS COMING IN AND UM, IT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AND THE TWO CITIES WOULD SPLIT 5% OF IT. SO ACTUALLY IT'S A SO SORRY. THERE, THERE ARE FOUR PROJECTS AT THE GUTHRIE. EDMOND AIRPORT IS SEEKING FAA FUNDING. ONE IS A TERMINAL NEW TERMINAL TAX AWAY IMPROVEMENTS LAND ACQUISITION IN ORDER TO DO BUSINESS EXPANSION AND I THINK RUNWAY HARDENING. SO THE WEIGHT TO THE AIRCRAFT THAT CAN LAND. IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL ON GETTING ONE OR FOUR OF THOSE, THEN THE LOCAL MATCH IS 10%. AND SO THAT'D BE 5% FOR GUT THREE AND 5% FOR ADMIN. SO WE'RE, WE'RE OPTIMISTIC. SO WE'RE BILLING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THOSE DOLLARS. YEAH. INTO FUNDS. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THEM FOR OUR PARTNERS WITH THEM FOR OVER 20 YEARS, I THINK AT LEAST. SO THAT'S OUR, THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES SET AN INCREASE, UM, A LITTLE BIT. DOES CHRISTIE PATTERSON COME ON UP? YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. CHRISTIE PATTERSON, THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY. I'M ALSO THE STAFF LEAD FOR THE CLARK UM, COMMITTEE COMMISSION. UM, THIS YEAR WE HAD ALMOST, OR A LITTLE OVER $1.4 MILLION IN REQUEST BETWEEN THE SOCIAL AGENCIES AND THE COMMUNITY AGENCIES. UM, JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY, ACTUALLY. NOT EVERYBODY GOT AN INCREASE THIS YEAR. SO THE CLERK, UM, RE REVIEWED THEIR APPLICATIONS AND OUT OF THE 21 AGENCIES THAT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, ONLY ABOUT 11 OF THEM ARE RECEIVING AN INCREASE. UM, THEY'RE EITHER RECEIVING WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR OR RECEIVING A REDUCED AMOUNT. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT AGENCY APPLIED. CAN I GET A LIST OF OF THAT, UH, OF THE DOLLARS SENT TO THEM PLEASE? UH, YES. FOR THE PROPOSAL. I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. , IT WAS ALSO IN A MEMO THAT WAS PROVIDED. UM, EDMOND PUBLIC. I MISSED THAT MEMO. . OKAY. EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL FOUNDATION IS RECEIVING 50,000 EDMOND FAMILY COUNSELING PROPOSED AS ONE, UH, HUNDRED 72,500. HOPE CENTER OF EDMOND IS 179 THOU OR 170,000, UH, EDMOND MOBILE MEALS. 90,000 MINISTRIES OF JESUS. 75,000 PROJECT, 66 FOOD PANTRY. 50 50,000, SORRY. FOSTERING SUITE DREAMS FOUNDATION, 15,000, TURNING POINT MINISTRIES 50,000 OKLAHOMA BAPTIST HOME, 7,500 YOU ARE SPECIAL. 25,000 LILLY FILLED IN, INCORPORATED 20,000. AND WE HAD A NEW, UM, ORGANIZATION THIS YEAR. IT'S PEACEFUL FAMILY SOLUTIONS WAS 25,000. SO THAT'S 750 JUST FOR THE SOCIAL AGENCIES, THE COMMUNITY AGENCIES. UM, F ARTS INSTITUTE IS RECEIVING 87,000. THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM, 285,000, THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION TRUST, 25,000. EDMOND ROUNDUP CLUB, 7,500 LIBERTY FEST, 100,000 U C O SPORT PERFORMANCE, 20,000 Y M C A COMMUNITY SUPPORT, 15,000 CHARACTER COUNCIL OF EDMOND'S, 6,000 AND TOP SOCCER, WHICH IS A SUBSIDIARY OF EDMOND SOCCER CLUB IS 5,000. AND COUNCILMAN, WE CAN GET YOU A LIST. YEAH, ME TOO. I'D LIKE AND, UH, INSTEAD OF MAKING A LIST THERE YEAH, I STOPPED, UH, LISTENING NOW , I DIDN'T STOP LISTENING. I STOPPED WRITING. I, UH, , THERE'S SOME FOLKS OUT THERE WITH THAT ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN SQUEEZE SOME MORE OUT OF THAT SOME WAY OR ANOTHER. OKAY. THAT'S 3% OF, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. UM, SO THAT'S SO THE NUMBER, SO GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION TOO ABOUT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN CART CURRENTLY PROBABLY NEED TO BE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM IN THE REGULAR BUDGET. YEAH. UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD, CUZ SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE REALLY JUST ARMS OF THE CITY NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDING THESE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT THE CITY'S NOT PROVIDING. AND SO I'M THINKING IF SOME OF THOSE MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT SPACE THAT COULD FREE UP MORE FUNDS. CORRECT. YOU KNOW, TO DO I THINK THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF. YEAH. THANK YOU. I, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. I ECHO THAT. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY CLARK, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE AS APPROPRIATE OF TIME AS [01:55:01] ANY TO SORT TO LAY THAT GROUNDWORK. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CHRISTIE'S CREDIT THAT YOU'VE BEEN EXPLORING. RIGHT. AND CLARK DID MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE SUMMIT, IF NOT ALL THE COMMUNITY AGENCIES OUT OF, UM, THE CLARK BUDGET BECAUSE THOSE ARE AGENCIES THAT ACTUALLY ATTRACT AND BRING SALES TAX DOLLARS INTO THE CITY. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE DESTINATION EVENTS LIKE OUR LIBERTY FEST FESTIVAL, THE MUSEUM, ET CETERA. MM-HMM. , WHEREAS THE SOCIAL AGENCIES ACTUALLY PROVIDE A SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM UTILITY SERVICE TO FOOD BANK, UM, ET CETERA. WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY WITH THE, THE CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON WITH THE CLARK AND, AND THE, AND EVEN WITH COUNCIL, THAT THE WAY WE BUDGET FOR THESE SERVICES TODAY WILL NOT LOOK FOR THE SAME FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. THEY WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME FOR NEXT YEAR. YES. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I, UH, CAR CAN MEET AGAIN AND MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME MORE MONEY. THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE HUNGRY, THEY DON'T HAVE CLOTHES, THEY DON'T HAVE SHOES, THEY NEED HELP. MM-HMM. AND I WANT TO TRY TO HELP AND WE WANT TO TRY TO HELP THEM. SO MR. MANAGER, IF YOU CAN FIGURE THIS, BUT PLEASE TALK TO ME ABOUT IT. OKAY? MM-HMM. . SO I, I MEAN I WOULD, I WOULD ECHO THAT. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S A SOURCE OF REAL PRIDE IN WHAT OUR COMMUNITY REPRESENTS AND THESE AGENCIES AND DIFFERENT CAUSES THAT HAVE A CENTER OF EXPERTISE AND ASSISTANCE. AND EDMOND UH, I THINK AS A WHOLE, OUR, OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY COMMUNITY FOCUSED, IS VERY GIVING. UM, AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO ENGAGE THOSE THAT FUND ARE FUNDED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, OUR DOLLAR BECOMES FIVE AND SOMETIMES 10 AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE, YOU'RE MEASURABLE. I DO SUPPORT THE EFFORT, WHICH I THINK MARY, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO, IF WE, I'D SAY FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, GAVE BIRTH TO YOU BECAUSE WE NEEDED A PLACE TO DO THINGS AND, AND YOU'RE DOING STUFF ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT PULLED OUT IF THERE COUNCIL OR MORE. IF THERE'S POSSIBILITY TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THIS CYCLE. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US. IF IT'S GOTTA GO BECAUSE OF PLANNING ANOTHER YEAR, I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT, UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME THAT PROVIDE A DIRECT ECONOMIC BENEFIT OR, OR OTHERWISE. UH, THE ONE THING I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, CUZ CLARK BASICALLY GOES THROUGH, LOOKS AT THAT 3%, AND BY THE WAY, I, I WENT THROUGH ALL THE PDF, THERE'S LIKE 700 THINGS THERE. YOU GUYS DOING A, I MEAN, YOU'RE ASKING FOR AUDITS, YOU'RE ASKING FOR BOARD MEETINGS. YOU'RE LIKE THE FAITH AND CONFIDENCE AS SOMEBODY WHO'S LOOKING AT RUNNING FOR THIS OFFICE AND HEARING SOME CHIRPING ABOUT THIS AND THEN GOING IN AND LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL STUFF THAT YOU'RE ALL LOOKING AT IS SIGNIFICANT. SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. AND YOUR COMMITTEE'S WORK, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, ULTIMATELY YOUR COM, YOUR COMMITTEE'S MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, THEN WE AS COUNSEL KIND OF GIVE IT THE UP OR DOWN ON THOSE. RIGHT. WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IS, AND MAYBE THIS SPEAKS TO COUNSELOR MOORE'S POINT IS A NOTE ON THE DELTA OF WHAT WAS ASKED FOR AND WHAT WAS RECEIVED. UH, THAT WAY IF WE CAN GET CREATIVE, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE AT THE, YOU KNOW, EDMOND, UH, MUSEUM OR HISTORICAL TRUST THAT HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE THAT ARE MAKING X AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T GO BACK THIS YEAR. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GONNA MAKE SOMETHING UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MAKE LESS THAN 32,000 OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THAT'S GETTING IN THE WEEDS. BUT I THINK US KNOWING WHAT WAS REQUESTED AND THEN WHAT WAS APPROVED MM-HMM. , THAT DELTA WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'LL GET REQUESTS ONE OFF ON PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY COUNSELOR, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS? OR MAN, IF WE HAD AN EXTRA $500, LIKE WE COULD HISTORICALLY YOU, THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE BUDGET THAT DELTA HAS BEEN THERE. PERFECT. TO ASK WHAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE WE AS A COUNCIL COULD, COULD SAY, HEY, ON THIS ONE THING COULD REALLY, WE, WE, THE COUNCIL HERE HAS, UH, AT TIMES TWEAKED IT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION COMING. THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CONFIRM. YEAH. DOES THAT ANSWER? IT'S ON, IT'S IN THAT MEMO THAT WE CAN GET YOU COPY. YEP. UH, YES. THANK YOU. AND I, AND COUNCILWOMAN MUG'S SUGGESTION ON SOME LIGHT ITEMS, PERHAPS. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. AND, UH, I'D STILL LIKE TO FIND SOME MORE MONEY. THANK YOU. AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY SPACE? YES, PLEASE, RIGHT? YES. YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND THE ARPA FUNDS, UM, WE RECEIVED $12,741,315. WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED IT. KATHY, CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN? SORRY. I KNOW I'M SO SHORT. UM, SO WE, WE RECEIVED THE $12,741,315, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE RECEIVED THAT WE SPENT 235 8 80 IN FISCAL GEAR. 2220 THREES. NOT OVER YET, BUT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO 6 MILLION. AND THESE FUNDS HAVE TO BE ENCUMBERED BY 1231 [02:00:01] OF 24. SO I'M ACTUALLY ASKING, LET'S ENCUMBER THEM BY 6 30, 24. AND IT'S STILL GIVES US SIX MONTHS IF WE MISS SOMETHING. BUT, UM, I'M GUESSING WE WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP PROBABLY AGAIN PRETTY SOON. WE HAVE A LIST, YOU GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL HAVE LOOKED AT IT A FEW TIMES, BUT IT CONTINUES TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET TO. UM, SO ANYWAY, WE NEED TO RE REVISIT THAT AND REALLY PIN IT DOWN AND, UM, BE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF THAT ENCUMBERED BY 6, 6 30 OF 24 IF WE CAN. IT HAS TO BE SPENT BY 1231 OF 26, OR WE LOSE IT. SO WE HAVE CLOSE TO, WELL, 6.5 MILLION STILL TO SPEND. AND, UM, THIS WAS REALLY JUST TO, THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE OR WE ACTUALLY DESIGNATED. THEY'RE NOT ALL COMPLETELY DONE, BUT LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE ULI STUDY WAS DONE, MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE WAS DONE, COMPENSATION SURVEY WAY FINDING, WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. UM, THE VISIT, EDMOND HAS DONE A LOT WITH SPONSORSHIPS. UH, ARCADIA, LIKE MASTER PLAN, I BELIEVE IS MAYBE NOT QUITE DONE YET. LIFT STATION. SO, UH, STEVENSON PARK'S UNDERWAY. BUT, UH, THERE'S JUST, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING IT ON. SO JUST KEEP IN MIND THERE'LL BE A WORKSHOP COMING UP PRETTY SOON. AND SO THE NEXT STEPS TODAY WE'RE HAVING OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND A PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AND THE OTHER INFORMATION THERE IS JUST WHEN IT'S DUE. SO TECHNICALLY THIS IS DUE JUNE 16TH, UM, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO HAVING ANY OTHER WORKSHOPS IF YOU GUYS WANT US TO WORK SOME THINGS UP AND LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO OTHER WORKSHOPS IN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET. BUT WE DO HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ON JUNE 12TH. UM, WELL ACTUALLY BY JUNE 24TH, BUT WE TRY TO DO IT BY THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE. MM-HMM. . AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE TO TRANSMIT IT TO THE STATE AUDITOR BY JULY 31ST AND THEN WE'RE DONE. SO, UM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME OR, UH, JARED CAMPBELL IS OUR NEW BUDGET. SENIOR MANAGER JUST JOINED US, SO HE'S HELPING NOW TOO. AND, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY UPDATING YOU A LITTLE MORE FREQUENT FREQUENTLY ON THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. HELP US REALLY SEE WHERE WE ARE IF WE NEED TO SPEND MORE OR CUT BACK. SO, UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I THINK THIS IS THE END AND I'M GONNA TURN IT TO ANDY. UH, FINAL QUESTION IN KATHY. UM, AND I LOVE THE EMAILS YOU KIND OF SENT OUT, LIKE THE BREAKOUT OF THE SALES TAX AND ALL GEEKING OUT TO ALL THAT AND DIVE IT INTO IT. UM, ARE, DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT'LL BE, UM, AS FAR AS WHEN THE, CUZ THE COUNCIL WANTED TO BREAK OUT THE MARIJUANA TAX, DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'LL START SHOWING UP? WE'RE ABLE, WE'RE ABLE TO GRAB THAT THREAD. SO HERE'S THE DEAL AND UM, IS IT, I THINK IT'S A O M M R F, IT'S A MARIJUANA GROUP. WHAT, WHAT'S THE NAME? IT'S THE OKLAHOMA MEDICAL MARIJUANA AUTHORITY. THANK YOU . THEY HAVE SOME TYPE OF TRACKING THAT THEY DO, BUT SALES TAX ACTUALLY COMES IN BASED ON, UH, THE NA, NATIONAL INDUSTRY STANDARDS SECTOR CODES CODE. AND THERE'S NO SECTOR CODE FOR MARIJUANA BECAUSE IT'S NOT LEGAL AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND SO IT, IT GETS DUMPED INTO THE MISCELLANEOUS AND, AND, UM, SO THERE'S NO REAL GOOD WAY TO TRACK IT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT EVEN HERE. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHOA, WE SHOULD WATCH THE, THE WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN FROM MARIJUANA SALES TAX. AND, AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION CUZ THERE'S ALSO AN EXCISE TAX AND THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION DOES TRACK THAT, BUT THEY GET IT ALL. WE DON'T GET ANY OF THAT EXCISE TAX AND IT'S 7%. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE THAT RECENT, THE RECENT ELECTION WHERE UH, THEY WERE GOING TO INCREASE IT TO 15% MM-HMM. , IF WE HAD RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, THAT WAS ALSO AN EXCISE TAX. SO, SO WAS THE IDEA POTENTIALLY, UM, THAT WE COULD TAKE THE DATA FROM THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION, DRILL IT DOWN TO EDMOND, THAT THEY'D GIVE US, TAKE THEIR 7% OF EXCISE TAX AND SAY HERE TO FOUR SINCE THEY COLLECTED 7% OF EXCISE TAX, THEORETICALLY OUR TAKE ON THE SALES TAX PER ADMIN WITHIN SOME BAND. A REASON WOULD BE WHY IS THAT? MAYBE HOW WE WERE GONNA TRY TO COME UP CALCULATION. DON'T KNOW THE, BEFORE YOU ALL CAME ON COUNCIL, WE, WE DISCUSSED LOOKING AT HAVING STAFF LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, ARE YOU THINKING OF THE ORDINANCE THOUGH, TOM? YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHAT JOSH, I KNOW COUNSELOR MOORE HAS WORKED WITH Y'ALL WHEN YOU WERE LEAVING THAT SEDIMENT AROUND, UM, SETTING ASIDE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER EDMONDS MARIJUANA TAX TO SOME PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFIT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ABLE [02:05:01] TO BE TRACKED OR IF WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NUMBERS ARE. SHORT ANSWER, NOT YET. OKAY. , THAT'S AN ANSWER. AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER ONE WHICH PROBABLY MERIT A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY IS I'VE HAD MULTIPLE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, INDICATE AND WE HAVE GREAT, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL PROVIDERS. I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT TO CAST DISPERSIONS OR ANYTHING, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE PEOPLE IN A CASH BUSINESS, UH, THAT WOULDN'T BE MOTIVATED TO PAY THEIR EBB ADMIN SALES TAX OR OTHERWISE. DO WE HAVE ANY MECHANISM WE'RE ABLE TO SAY THEY, UH, UH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 10 BUSINESSES, UH, THAT HAVE 40 CARS GOING OUT OF 'EM AND THE CITY'S COLLECTED A DOLLAR FROM THEM. LIKE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY PAY THEIR UTILITY BILLS IN CASH. WELL THAT'S, THAT'D BE A GOOD WAY TO, I MEAN, THAT'D BE A GOOD DATA POINT. CROSS REFERENCE. I IMAGINE MUNICIPALITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE ARE DEALING WITH THIS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL CASH ECONOMY, UH, THERE'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, WHICH ULTIMATELY BECOMES A PENALTY TO THEM. CUZ YOU HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, IT'S CASH. WHY WOULD I GIVE IT TO YOU? I MEAN, UH, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE ISSUE WITH ANYBODY THAT COLLECTS CASH, BUT IT'S UP TO THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION TO ENFORCE THE SALES TAX LAWS. RIGHT. MR. CLERK'S OFFICE DOES, THERE, THERE IS A LICENSE THAT, THAT IS REQUIRED WHEN THEY ESTABLISH THEIR BUSINESS. AND SO WE COULD GIVE YOU A LIST OF ALL THE ENTITIES THAT, THAT, THAT EXISTS OF THAT, THAT, THAT KIND OF OPERATION. BUT WE DON'T DO ANY KIND OF ANNUAL, UH, AUDIT, UH, AUDIT OF THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE WE SEEMS LIKE, CUZ I DON'T WANT THE LIST. UH, IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE TOOK THE LIST AND HAD SOMEBODY RUN A RUN A SO YOU WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO GET THE LIST? NO, I MEAN, LIKE SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS FINANCES THAT KNOWS. BUT IF, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU TOOK THAT LIST AND THEN RAN IT AGAINST SALES TAX RECEIPTS MM-HMM. AND YOU SAW, OKAY, WE HAVE ACTIVE BUSINESSES AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US A TOTAL OF SALES TAX OF, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED DOLLARS. LIKE THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME DA DATA WOULD TELL US THAT LIKE, HEY, THESE DOZEN PEOPLE DON'T, AREN'T PAYING ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT THE AVERAGE SALES TAX WOULD BE. I THINK I'VE NEVER DONE IT, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE CAN REQUEST THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION TO AUDIT CERTAIN YEAH, YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR HIGHEST BAND OF, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR OPERATORS THAT ARE, BUT YOU WOULD TAKE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A BUSINESS LICENSE THAT CLEARLY IS HAVING OPERATIONS COME IN AND OUT. AND IF THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, AN OUTLIER IN THE BOTTOM 5% OF SALES TAX PROVIDERS FOR THAT INDUSTRY, THEN YOU'D SAY, YEAH, GO LOOK AT THAT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGES OF CITY SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. I'M NOT SAYING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THAT A LOT ARE DOING THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IN A CASH ENVIRONMENT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE MISSING OUT OF, UH, ON SOME LEVEL. IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT KATHY AND AND MY OFFICE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND, AND REPORT BACK TO COUNSEL AFTER WE HAVE A CONVERSATION. WE'RE WE'RE, IT'S A, I THINK THE COUNCIL, THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID IT BEST. IT'S STILL AN EVOLVING PROCESS AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE IN A LEGAL STANDING THAT IF WE WERE TO GO CONTEST SOMETHING THAT WE HAD PROPER BASIS TO GO DO THAT. RIGHT. I I THINK THE, THE MOTIVATION THAT COMES FROM MOORE WAS, WAS, WAS POSITIVE. WE WE'RE JUST STRUGGLING WITH THE MECHANISM TO ACTUALLY GO DO THAT AND ACCURATELY SAY THEY GAVE US A DOLLAR, NOT DOLLAR. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DIFFICULTY OF TRACKING THAT AND THEY DO TEND TO GO IN AND OUT OF BUSINESS AS WELL. I JUST KNOW THAT THEY TEND TO WATCH. SURE. THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, SOME, ANYTHING ELSE? ONE THING, I'M GONNA BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, BUT YOU, IF YOU COULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT, PLEASE SOME OF THOSE AND TAKE INTO SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE, THE PIE IS ONLY SO BIG IN TRYING TO ALLOCATE THAT PIE AMONGST THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IS TRICKY. BACK TO THE, ARE SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS REALLY NEEDING TO BE FUNDED? NOT IN CLARK, BUT SOMEWHERE ELSE MM-HMM. , CORRECT? YES. AND THAT'S MR. MARTIN. I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO, YEAH. MR. MURDOCH, DO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON CLARK'S NOT GONNA LOOK THE SAME NEXT YEAR MM-HMM. FOR BUDGET MM-HMM. AND I, AND I, I HEARD YOU AND I UNDERSTAND YOU, BUT THERE'S A NEED NOW. THERE'S A, THERE'S A NEED NOW. SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW, AND, AND I WROTE THIS DOWN, BUT COUNCIL CONTINGENCY FUND, LIKE WHERE WE ARE WITH RESPECT TO OUR COUNCIL CONTINGENCY FUND FOR THIS YEAR, DO WE, I KNOW I, I CAN THINK OF SEVERAL THINGS WE USED IT FOR. UM, AND MY RECOLLECTION IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND MM-HMM. . AND SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET CREATIVE, AND THIS IS, IF THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL'S PASSIONATE ABOUT, DO WE LOOK TO THAT IN THE INTERIM BEFORE WE MAYBE FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER ADJUSTMENTS? YEAH, THAT'D BE A FAIR, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME LEFT IN THIS YEAR BETWEEN, WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 30. OR [02:10:01] I'M JUST GONNA SAY ALSO THAT CONTINGENCY FUND YOU NEED TO LOOK AT FOR THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE RIGHT. WE'VE FUNDED OVER THE YEARS, THOSE SAME ITEMS ARE GONNA COME UP AGAIN THIS YEAR. MM-HMM. , I'M ALMOST GUARANTEEING WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING THERE'S SOME SENTIMENT AMONG COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL UNALLOCATED FUNDS FOR THESE POTENTIAL USES. THANK YOU, SIR. YES, YES. WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME IDEAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AT THAT POINT WE'LL HAVE ANNIE MAKE A A RAPID DISCUSSION. RIGHT, . ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET YOU OUTTA HERE. THANK YOU, KATHY. ANDY, WHAT YOU GOT FOR US? MAYOR ANDY CONYERS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OF ADMINISTRATION. WHEN I WAS PREPARING THIS, UH, PRESENTATION, I WAS WELL AWARE OF WHERE I WAS IN RELAT TO MY TWO COLLEAGUES AND HAD A FEELING THAT WE WOULD BE TWO PLUS HOURS INTO THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE, I'LL BE, GOSH, I WAS CORRECT IN THAT. SO I'M WELL AWARE THAT, UH, WE HAVE NOW BEEN SITTING FOR TWO HOURS IN ALMOST 20 MINUTES, SO I WILL GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AS QUICKLY AS I CAN, BUT PLEASE STOP IF THERE IS QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING, SO. MM-HMM. , THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THOUGH. SADDAM. MM-HMM. . YEAH. NO, I ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, I I'M, DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO RUSH. NO, NO. TONGUE, TONGUE INTO YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE HERE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO THIS, UH, I WILL SAY THAT THE THREE FUNDS THAT I'M GOING TO COVER, THE 2000 C I P, THE 2017 CIP P AND THE PARK TAX ARE EXPECTED TO GENERATE, UH, ABOUT 33 MILLION NEXT YEAR. AND SO I WILL RUN THROUGH A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE FUND THROUGH THIS. SO WITH THE 2000 CIP P AND THE 2017 C I P, THERE IS AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT IS CALLED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ADVISORY BOARD. AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS BUDGET AT THEIR APRIL MEETING. AND AS WELL AS THE PARK TAX, WHICH OVERSEES THE PARK TAX FUND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS BUDGET AS WELL. SO IT'S, UH, AND IT WAS HEARD SEPARATELY BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, TWO TO THREE TIMES AT EACH OF THE BOARDS AND LOTS OF PROJECTS WERE BANTER BACK AND FORTH. AND SO I WILL RUN THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO JUST AN, AN OVERVIEW OF THIS, UM, OF THESE SLIDES, SLIDE 58. SO THE SOURCE AND USE OF FUNDS. SO I LOOK BACK OVER A 23 YEAR PERIOD AT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE 2000 AND THE 2017, WHICH HAS BEEN REPURPOSED A COUPLE TIMES, AND IT'S 328 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS. AND WHEN I SAY PROJECTS, THINK ROAD WIDENINGS, THINK TRAILS, THINK PARKS, THINK PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I THINK SOMETIMES YOU MAY HEAR THE SENTIMENT, WHY DOESN'T EDMUND HAVE A MASS TAX? WE DO, WE HAVE TWO OF THEM. AND THEY'VE BEEN, I WOULD ARGUE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE 23 YEARS THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE. SO, UH, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE 2000 C I P, WHICH IS A THREE QUARTER CENT PERMANENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, IT'S LOOKING TO BRING IN ABOUT 18 MILLION. SOME PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THIS ARE THE COVO WIDENING PROJECT FROM FAIRFAX TO GRIFFIN, WHICH WAS A 9.6 MILLION PROJECT, A CATALYTIC PROJECT FOR DOWNTOWN. AND AS WELL AS, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE COMMUNITY WAS A QUIET ZONE PROJECT, WHICH WAS $4 MILLION. AND THEN OUR ANNUAL MILLION OVERLAY OF STREETS WERE RECONSTRUCTION AND RESURFACING THE STREETS, UH, TO THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. AND THEN OUR DEBT NOW THAT IS BORROWED, UH, THAT, THAT IS OUTSTANDING. THE DEBT SERVICE COMES FROM THE 2000. SO NONE OF IT COMES FROM THE 2017. SO AN FY 24 11 MILLION OF THAT DEBT IS PROPOSED TO BE SERVICED. SO WE GOT SOME OLDER OBLIGATIONS THAT COMPLETELY FALL OFF AFTER FY 28. AND THEN 40 MILLION THAT WAS BORROWED IN JULY, 2021. THAT OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD HAS FUNDED KICKING BIRD. WE'LL FUND THE UPCOMING, UH, DANFORTH AND KELLY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, AS WELL AS SOME VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE 81.1 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED IN MARCH, 2023. UH, THAT'S OVER 15 YEARS AS WELL. AND THEN TWO PROJECTS THAT IT'S PROPOSED TO FUND THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX PROJECT AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY AND THE Y M C A. AND THEN MOVING ON OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT, THE 2017 CIP P SALES TAX. IT'S, WE'RE REAL CLEVER WITH THESE NAMES, NO IDEA WHERE THEY CAME FROM. UM, SO IT'S A HALF CENT TAX THAT DOES SUNSET ON MARCH 31ST, 2027. AND THE REVENUE, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BE GENERATED FROM THAT IS $12 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. AND SOME PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THIS, UH, ARE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AT SECOND BRYANT, WHICH COSTS SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. AND THEN THE ONGOING IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT NOW WITH STUDENTS IN PART AS SOON AS SIX AND A HALF. SO WE DON'T SERVICE ANY DEBT OUT OF THIS SINCE IT DOES, HAS A SUN SINCE IT DOES HAVE A SUNSET. AND THEN THE LIST OF PROJECTS, UH, WAS GENERATED FROM A TEMPORARY TASK FORCE THAT THE, THAT THE COUNCIL PUT TOGETHER IN 2015 AND THEN WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS IN APRIL OF 2016. SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH PROJECTS WITH THE C I P ADVISORY BOARD, THAT IS ALWAYS FRONT AND CENTER, ALMOST EVERY MEETING WE TALK ABOUT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS PROJECT THAT PROJECT, THIS [02:15:01] PROJECT? AND INEVITABLY IT COMES BACK TO IT WAS GENERATED FROM THAT LIST. AND SO WE REALIZED THAT THEIR COMMUNITY HAS AN EXPECTATION OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE COMPLETED. UM, AND SO I, THE, HOW THIS PRESENTATION IS STRUCTURED IS WITH BOTH OF THESE FUNDS, THE 2020 17, UM, PUT THINGS IN BUCKETS OF THE PROPOSED MONEY TO BE SPENT UNDER EACH OF THOSE BUCKETS. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT $108 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS. SO AGAIN, A LARGE MAJORITY OF THAT 108 IS THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX AND THEN ALSO THE Y M C A IN THE LIBRARY PROJECT. BUT I'M JUST GONNA QUICKLY RUN THROUGH EACH OF THESE BUCKETS AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THESE PROJECTS. AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE, I'D BE, I THREW IN SOME PICTURES TOO, JUST SO TO GIVE YOUR MIND A MENTAL BREAK. UM, SO, WE'LL, SO A COUPLE COUPLE QUESTIONS, ANDY. YES, SIR. UM, SO WHEN I TALK TO RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TOP OF MIND IS LIKE, HEY, TRANSPORTATION AND STREETS. EXACTLY. I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT BUCKETS MM-HMM. , THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MESSAGING OUT THERE OF LIKE HOW MUCH WE'RE DOING. SO THIS, AND THIS MIGHT ALSO BE TO KATHY, BUT LIKE, SO THIS OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTS OUR CIP P DEDICATED, UH, PROJECTS, WHICH SOME OF WHICH OBVIOUSLY INCLUDE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, RIGHT? UH, AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT. WHERE DOES, LIKE, WHERE DO WE GO GRAB MYSELF OR A CITIZEN, SAY THE CITY OF EDMOND SPENDS X ON CONSTRUCTION, TRANSPORTATION, MAINTENANCE, POTHOLES, THAT KIND OF THING. YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET. YES. SO, SO ANNUALLY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER 3.8 TO LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT FIXED POTHOLES COMES FROM THE 2000 CIP P, BUT THEN ALSO AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE BUDGET, UH, COMES OUT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, I KNOW IT WOULD BE FOR ME, AND THEN WE CAN EXTRAPOLATE FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT HOW TO COMMUNICATE TO CITIZENS IS I THINK THERE'S A, A LACK OF JUST UNDERSTANDING CUZ THEY'RE LOOKING AT SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU BET. THAT HAVE A TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT TO IT. YOU BET THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH ADDING UP THAT NUMBER. YEAH. AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK YEAH. TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT ON HAND AS LIKE A, AS A ONE PAGER. SO WE, WE DO HAVE A, THERE IS A ONE PAGER ON OUR WEBSITE THAT I CAN, WE CAN DIRECT PEOPLE TO AND WE DO PERIODICALLY WE'LL DO A SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH TO SAY HERE'S PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED OVER THIS 23 YEAR PERIOD AND THERE IS A TRANSPORTATION BUCKET. WELL, SO I WANT TO TAKE NOT JUST WHAT'S IN THE CIP P SURE. I WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING. YOU BET. THAT GOES TO ANYTHING YOU BET IN TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY OF EDMOND. YEAH. AND KNOW, AND THAT CAN BE PERSONNEL, IT CAN BE EQUIPMENT, IT CAN BE EVERYTHING. YOU BET. AND SAY EDMOND CITIZEN, ON BEHALF OF YOU, WE SPENT X DOLLARS AND ANTICIPATING SPENDING Y DOLLARS. YES. BECAUSE THEY GET CONFUSED BY THE HAVE DIFFERENT BUCKET. AND I THINK PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO SHOW THAT IS OVER FIVE YEAR PERIODS OF TIME, BECAUSE WE DO SEE PRETTY BIG SWINGS IN THE CIP. SO IF WE DO SECOND BRYANT, THEN THERE'S SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IF WE DO ANOTHER BIG INTERSECTION ONE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO PICK SOMETHING OUT HERE AND THEY LIKE TO COMPARE IT TO THIS. YOU BET. AND THEY'RE NOT ADDING UP THE BUCKETS. YEAH, YOU BET. UM, THE OTHER THING IS, AND THIS IS JUST A POINT OF ME UNDERSTANDING THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO WHEN IT SAYS 2024, WHEN IT SAYS LIKE PARKS AND RECREATION, SO I SEE THERE LIKE MULTIPURPOSE RECTANGULAR FIELDS. YEAH. WE'VE DESIGNED, I KNOW WE'VE GONE THE 800 K IN DESIGN, THE SI 7.5 MILLION. DO WE AS A COUNCIL STILL NEED TO AUTHORIZE THAT EXPENDITURE? YES. YEAH. SO THAT'S JUST THE, THAT'S JUST WHAT'S PROPOSED. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S WHAT'S JUST PROPOSED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, JUST FOR EXAMPLE ON THAT MULTI MULTIPURPOSE RIGHT? KING IN THEIR FIELDS. THAT'S AN INTERESTING PROJECT. THERE'S MORE COMPONENTS THAN NORMALLY. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT THAT'S LOOKING AT THAT. WE'LL BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD TO YOU ALL, BUT BEFORE A DESIGN CONTRACT WOULD BE ENTERED. AND THEN SO STAFF, STAFF WOULD BE SEEKING RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT POINT TO SAY, DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT OR NOT? AND YOU SAY, THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN, AND THEN WE GO OUT AND SEEK DESIGN SERVICES. AND THEN THAT CONTRACT WOULD COME TO CIP P AND THAT CONTRACT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL TO, SO ORDER OPERATIONS, IS IT, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THIS COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT IT'S MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU BET THEY PUT THAT, BUT THEN WE ULTIMATELY SAY, YEP, HEY, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO THIS OR WE WANT TO TWEAK IT. CORRECT. AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, WHICH IS PROPOSED AGAIN, WOULDN'T HAPPEN IF WE DON'T DO DESIGN OBVIOUSLY. SO NOTHING IN SLIDE 59 IS LIKE FUN, LIKE HAS BEEN APPROVED. IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING WHAT WE'RE DOING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UH, SOME OF IT HAS BEEN, SOME OF IT HAS BEEN APPROVED. MM-HMM. . OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE, THE CITY YOU, I TALKED TO CITIZENS AND I'M LIKE, I KNOW WE'RE DOING SOMETHING HERE. AND I THINK, AND LIKE THAT'S ANOTHER, I DON'T WANNA TYPE EVERYONE'S TIME CAUSE THAT'S A, YOU BET A NEWBIE PROBLEM. BUT LIKE, I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I CAN'T IMAGINE FOR YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE, ALL THE THINGS HAVING JUST BEEN SWORN IN AND THEN SAYING, HEY, GIVE US, LIKE, GO AHEAD AND APPROVE A BUDGET. SO IT IT'S, IT'S A LOT. ABSOLUTELY. DON'T WORRY. WE, WE'VE ALL DONE THIS . SO ALSO ON YOUR TRANSPORTATION, THERE IS A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE THAT SHOWS ALL THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE WHERE THEY ARE IN LOCATION, UH, ONES THAT ARE FUNDED AND ONES THAT ARE NOT FUNDED. [02:20:01] YES, SIR. YEAH. WITH, WITH PICTURES, YES, WITH WITH PICTURES. CHANCE WE TRY TO TELL THE STORY AS BEST WE CAN WITH PICTURES AS WELL. SO, UH, UNDERNEATH THAT, STREETS AND HIGHWAY BUCKET IS PROPOSED NEXT YEAR FOR 5 MILLION. AGAIN, UH, THE LARGEST CHUNK OF THAT IS OUR ANNUAL RECONSTRUCTION RESURFACING OF STREETS. UM, SO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AT DANFORTH AND KELLY, IT'S PROPOSED ONE, UH, 1.25 MILLION TO RELOCATE TO ACQUIRE THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED AND THEN RELOCATE THE UTILITIES THAT ARE IN THE WAY. AS WITH EVERY, UH, ROAD WIDENING PROJECT, IT'S ABOUT A THREE TO THREE AND A HALF YEAR PRO, UH, TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN AN FY 25 CONSTRUCTION IS PROPOSED. AND WHAT, WHAT IS VERY GOOD NEWS IS THE COST TO DO THAT CONSTRUCTION IS 9 MILLION. UH, THROUGH A GRANT PROCESS WITH THE OKLAHOMA ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA GOVERNMENTS, WE RECEIVED A GRANT, UH, THAT WILL HELP FUND, UH, 7.2 MILLION OF THAT. SO THE CITY'S MATCH IS 1.8. I WILL CAUTION THAT THAT IS, UM, DESIGN IS STILL ONGOING. IF I'VE SEEN ANYTHING OVER THE LAST THREE PLUS YEARS, THAT COST WILL GO UP. UM, I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT CUZ THE COST OF LABOR AND MATERIAL WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP. SO WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT THE CITY'S OBLIGATION WILL ONLY BE 1.8, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT'LL PROBABLY BE HIGHER THAN THAT BY THE TIME WE GET AROUND THE CONSTRUCTION. SO, UH, MOVING DOWN IS THE, UH, FOR RELATED TO DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, IF OF COURSE WITH ALL THIS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TIF FUNDING AT THIS POINT. THIS IS JUST 2020 17. SO THE BIG PORTION OF THIS, UH, IS THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX, WHICH HAS A BUDGET OF $44 MILLION. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT, UH, ONCE AGAIN. AND THE NEXT THING THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY WILL SEE, UH, ASSUMING WE GET GOOD BIDS, IS TO DEMOLISH THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE PLANNING AND PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, WHICH IS SLATED TO OCCUR AT THE END OF JULY. SO THERE WILL BE MORE MESSAGING AROUND THAT. BUT WE ARE, WE ARE BACK ON TRACK AFTER THE REFERENDUM PETITION PROCESSES NOW EXPIRE. UM, AND THEN WHAT'S ALSO PROPOSED AT SOME PICTURES HERE IS JUST TO AID IN, UH, ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING AROUND DOWNTOWN, UH, WITH A COUPLE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. AND SO WHAT WOULD STAFF WOULD POIT AT THIS POINT IS NOT TO EXPEND THESE FUNDS AS COUNCIL MEMBER ROBINS TALKED ABOUT, BUT TO LEAVE THEM AS A PLACEHOLDER TO ADD STREET SCAPE ALONG CITY RIGHT AWAY. UM, TO GO ALONG WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS AT HERDON, BROADWAY AND THIRD AND LITER, AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, AND THEN UNDERNEATH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET, UM, IS A LITTLE UNDER 17 MILLION. UH, LARGE CHUNK OF THAT IS FOR THE AC CAPLINGER BALL FIELD UPGRADES. AND SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AFTER RECEIVING, UM, AN INITIAL REVIEW OF THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT THAT VICTUS HAD CONDUCTED FOR US. AND SO WE ARE, WE HAVE ENGAGED THE DESIGN CONSULTANT AGAIN, UH, AND WE'LL BE HAVING A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT FACILITY. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT FEEDBACK, BE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT FACILITY AGAIN WITH $8 MILLION BUDGETED NEXT FISCAL YEAR. UM, AND THEN THE MULTIPURPOSE RECTANGULAR FEE FOR 25. WHAT'S THAT? YOU SAID NEXT FISCAL YEAR? SO IS THAT WELL, FY 24. OH 20. SO YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO ALL, ALL THESE, SO THAT, THAT IS, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE AN FY BY IT, THEN IT'S, IT'S JUST CONSIDERED FY 24. OKAY. SO FROM JU JULY ONE OF 23 TO JUNE 30TH OF 24. UM, SO THEN THE DESIGN IS PROPOSED FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE RECTANGULAR FIELDS, $800,000. AND THEN, UH, TO CONSTRUCT THAT, UH, WE HAVE ALLOCATED SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN NEXT, UH, FY 25. UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO TRAILS THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UH, IN, BOTH OF 'EM ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE, ROUGHLY $3 MILLION, UH, OF MONEY AS ALLOCATED FOR EACH OF THOSE. AND I HAVE PICTURES HERE IN JUST A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THOSE ARE. UM, AND THEN REPURPOSING A VIC AND SOFTBALL FIELD. SO THIS IS LOCATED AT, UM, ON MIDWEST, JUST NORTH OF DAN DANFORTH. NOW THAT THE WASTEWATER RECOVERY FACILITY EXPANSION IS NEARING COMPLETION, ONE OF THESE DAYS IT'LL BE COMPLETE. CHRIS PROBABLY WON'T HAVE ANY HAIR BY THE TIME IT COMPLETES. IT HAS LESS AND LESS EVERY DAY. EASY THERE. I KNOW. SORRY ABOUT THAT . BUT, UH, SO ONCE THAT WILL ALLOW THE ABILITY FOR A QUALITY OF LIFE USE OF THOSE FIELDS THAT HAD TO UNFORTUNATELY, UH, BE TORN UP DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THAT, UH, EXPANSION. SO STAFF WOULD PROPOSE, UH, $250,000 TO TALK ABOUT DESIGN. PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE IS PRACTICE FIELD USE. SO GIVEN THE LOCATION, UM, AND THE AVAILABLE FUNDS WOULD BE JUST TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PRACTICE FIELD USE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT, UH, WITH DESIGN AND THEN ALSO WITH THE PARK TECHS, UH, WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, UH, TO OVERSEE THAT. THAT'S A BIG ASK IN EDMOND, HIS PRACTICE FIELDS. ABSOLUTELY. I GET ASKED THAT AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. I KNOW, I KNOW PARKS DIRECTOR HASN'T BEEN HERE TOO LONG, BUT I'M SURE HE HAS TOO. HIS EARS ARE PROBABLY BURNING WITH THAT. UM, SO, AND THEN $2 MILLION TO CONSTRUCT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, 1.5 MILLION NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR SOME UPGRADES AT HAYFORD PARK. [02:25:01] SO CURRENTLY THAT'S UNDER DESIGN. SO, UH, THE PARK TAX IS PAYING FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT. THAT'S THE RENOVATION, THE RESTROOMS AND THE STAGE, AND THEN ALSO THE FISHING DOCK. UM, SO, UH, FACILITY THAT GETS LOTS OF USE, BUT, UM, IT IS AGING AND NEEDS IS IN NEED OF SOME REPLACEMENT. SO OUR DEPARTMENT IS WORKING THROUGH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITH THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION MONEY WOULD COME OUT OF THESE TWO SOURCES OF FUNDS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO JUST SOME PROJECTS, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, FORWARD WITH RENDERINGS OF THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX. SO AGAIN, THIS IS ON, UH, MAIN STREET, UM, AT THE CORNER OF, ON MAIN STREET AT THE CORNER OF WHITTLER. SO LOOK, THIS IS LOOKING BACK DOWN, THIS IS LOOKING BACK TO THE SOUTH. SO THE MAIN GRAND ENTRANCE OF THIS TWO-STORY COMPLEX THAT WILL HAVE, UH, EXPANDED CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE, PUBLIC MEDIAN ROOM SPACE AS WELL. SO ABOUT A 59,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN THIS IS AS YOU MOVE A LITTLE FURTHER EAST ON MAIN STREET ON THE CORNER OF BOULEVARD. SO THIS IS OUR COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE 15,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THEN THE PARKING GARAGE THAT SITS RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. SO USES, UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO, UH, SAFELY PARK THEIR VEHICLES IN THE PARKING GARAGE HERE AND ARE INTO COURT HERE OR DO BUSINESS WITH US AT CITY HALL RIGHT NEXT DOOR. UM, WELL, I'D MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT SOME STREET SCAPES IMPROVEMENTS. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PROJECTS, THESE ARE PRIVATELY FUNDED PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN. SO WHAT THIS IS, IS 1 0 3 NORTH BROADWAY. SO IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED BY MATTHEW MEYERS, UH, WHO'S ALSO DOING THE LAR IN DOWNTOWN. SO WHERE THIS IS, THIS IS BROADWAY RIGHT HERE. UH, THIS IS HERD STREET, SO JUST EAST, I'M SORRY, JUST WEST OF BROADWAY. AND SO WHAT'S PROPOSED IS A 12 MILLION MIXED USE PROJECT. SO IN THIS BUILDING THAT YOU SEE ON THE CORNER HERE, UH, A RESTAURANT COMPONENT DOWN, SO MIXED USE BUILDING RESTAURANT COMPONENT HERE, AND THEN OFFICE HERE AS WELL AS SEVEN LIVING UNITS. AND SO WHAT POTENTIALLY THE CITY, WHAT THE, WHAT CITY STAFF WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE IS ADDING STREET SKATE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET RIGHT HERE. SO PEOPLE CAN SAFELY PARK, UH, IN THAT, NOT ONLY FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT ALSO AREA WIDE PARKING AS WELL. SO, AND THEN ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE DESIGN PHASE IS CALLED THE STROLL. AND SO THE STROLL IS ON WHITTLER JUST SOUTH OF SPROUTS. SO I THINK BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND FOURTH STREET, JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF STEVENSON PARK. UH, THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE A 23 MILLION PROJECT WITH 23 LIVING UNITS AND THEN 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND OFFICE. SO AGAIN, USING THOSE STREET SKATE FUNDS POTENTIALLY TO ADD STREET SKATE PARKING HERE ALONG THIRD STREET, UH, BEFORE YOU, UH, GET TO LIVE THERE, RIGHT HERE. SO JUST TO HELP NOT ONLY WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT TO HELP, UH, ACCENTUATE THAT, BUT ALSO AREA WIDE PARKING AS WELL. SO, AND AGAIN, ALL THESE THINGS WOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BEFORE ANYTHING MOVED FORWARD, DESIGN CONTRACTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, UM, AND THEN THE TRAIL PROJECT, WHICH I MENTIONED, SO THIS IS THE CREEK BEND TRAIL THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN. SO 1.2 MILES THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE SPRING CREEK TRAIL. SO CURRENTLY THIS HERE'S I 35, WHICH HELP ORIENT, UH, 15TH STREET, AND THEN HERE IS COLD TRAIN. SO CURRENTLY THE SPRING CREEK TRAIL, UH, RUNS UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY. THIS WOULD CONNECT UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY AND THEN MAKE ITS WAY BACK TOWARDS TOWN, BACK TOWARD THE WEST. SO 1.2 MILES, ESTIMATED BUDGET OF 3 MILLION. WE DID RECEIVE A $600,000 GRANT WITH THIS PROJECT. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE. WE'RE ABOUT 60% COMPLETELY DESIGN, AND WE DESIGN WOULD BE MOVING QUICKER. WE ARE IN THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION PHASE. CITY CURRENTLY DOES NOT OWN ALL THE PROPERTY ALONG THIS AREA. AND SO WE ARE ACTIVELY, UH, TRYING TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY. AND I KNOW IT'S YOUR NEXT MEETING. NOT ONLY IS THERE A TRAIL PROJECT, THERE'S ALSO A SEWER PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON IN CONJUNCTION OF THIS. SO THE TRAIL WILL BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE CREEK TRAIL, UH, SORRY, SEWER PROJECT ON THE NORTH SIDE TRAIL, ROUGHLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO WE'RE ACQUIRING PROPERTIES TOGETHER ALONG WITH, UH, WASTEWATER. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. UM, AND THEN WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN BY THE END OF, OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST TRAIL ON THE, UH, THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO HERE IS ARCADIA LAKE, HERE IS, UH, ROUTE 66 OR SECOND STREET. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE TO THE NORTH RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE ROUTE 66 TRAIL, WHICH WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED VERY POPULAR. SO IT RUNS OVER FROM POST ROAD AND THEN BACK TO THE WEST AND COMES OVER TO MIDWEST. WHAT'S UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE NORTHWEST TRAIL CONNECTOR. SO IT WOULD RUN 1.8 MILES FROM WHERE THIS TRAIL STOPS AND THEN RUN BACK TO THE WEST. AND THEN I'LL ALSO MAKE A LOW WATER CROSSING RIGHT HERE TO CONNECT THE SPRING CREEK TRIP. UM, MY, AS MY ASSUMPTION IS IN THAT FITS OVERLAYS PERFECTLY WITH THE ARCADIA [02:30:01] MASTER PLAN. LIKE THERE'S NOTHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK TO AND LIKE. CORRECT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THEY WERE, WE WERE SO FAR ADVANCED IN THIS BEFORE WE STARTED THE MASTER PLAN. I MEAN, SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS PROJECT STARTED. WE DID HEAR SOME VERY GOOD NEWS THAT WE DID GET A, UH, WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT, UH, THROUGH ODO, AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PARTICULARS OF THAT AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT EXACTLY THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS PROJECT SCHEDULE AND THEN THE MONEY'S AVAILABLE. SO STAFF IS THAT, THAT HAPPENED THE LAST TWO WEEKS. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT WITH THE DESIGN CONSULTANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. HOW LONG WOULD IT DELAY THE PROJECT IF WE WERE TO ACCEPT THE FUNDS FOR ARCADIA? UH, FOR THE TRAILER, THE NORTHWEST TRAIL CONNECTOR. OKAY. YEAH, FOR THE NORTHWEST TRAIL CONNECTOR. SO MORE NEWS, MORE NEWS WHEN, WHEN WE HAPPEN. SO LOOK, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO THERE MIGHT BE, WE'LL HAVE TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, THERE MIGHT BE SOME MORE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT INVOLVE VARIOUS LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT AND WE WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS PROJECT TIME MARKET FOR THE TRAIL. SO, UH, AND THEN MOVING BACK TO WORDS. SO, UH, AGAIN, FISCAL YEAR 2024, 108 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS UNDERNEATH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUCKET OF 3.8 MILLION. UM, UH, SO SOME INCENTIVE FUNDS, UH, TO GO ALONG WITH THE PR, THE CREST PROJECT THAT I BELIEVE IS PROPOSED TO OPEN, UH, FALL OF NEXT YEAR, I THINK IS WHAT THEY'RE TARGETING. AND SO THE, THE CITY'S COMMITMENT WITH THAT PROJECT WAS TO MOVE UP AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING ON DOING TO COINCIDE WITH THAT. SO THE LATEST ESTIMATE WE HAVE TO ADD A LIGHT AND THEN TO WIDEN THE ROAD AND TO PUT SOME SIDEWALKS IN, UH, NEAR THAT INTERSECTION, UH, IS 2.8 MILLION. SO THAT IS, UH, AND THEN, AND THE OTHER $1 MILLION PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR. AS MAYOR LIKES TO TALK ABOUT FREQUENTLY, WE'D LIKE TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY COME AND OF COURSE THEY WILL ALWAYS BE VETTED OUT IN PUBLIC SETTINGS JUST LIKE THIS WITH YOU ALL. AND SO WE WOULD PROPOSE JUST TO HAVE THAT THERE FOR THINGS THAT DO ARISE. SO 2.8 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT, AND IT WILL, WE WERE, OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE, UH, AROUND THE SAME TIME AS CREST OPENS. SO WE ARE WORKING FEVERISHLY TO DO THAT. SO, AND THEN RIGHT BELOW THAT, UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, 30 MILLION OF WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE THE, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SECOND LIBRARY IN Y M C A, AND AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD, ROUGHLY 12 MILLION OF THAT $30 MILLION WILL BE REPAID BACK TO THE CITY FROM THE Y M C A FOR A PORTION OF THEIR SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT AND ARE TARGETING A JANUARY, 2024, UH, BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION AND THEN A LATE SPRING EARLY SUMMER OPENING IN 25. SO ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX. IF YOU ALL KNOW STEVE COMMONS, WHO NOW, NOW WORKS IN A CONSULTING ROLE FOR US AND IS THE PROJECT POINT FOR THE CITY ON THAT. HE, IT'S, IT'S A RACE HE CAN GET DONE, HE CAN GET DONE FIRST, SO PRETTY SURE HE IS GONNA LOSE, BUT THERE YOU GO. SO ANYWAY, UM, GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY, 7.3 MILLION OF WHICH SIX OF THAT IS THE CROSS TIMBERS EXPANSION. SO OUTSIDE WE'RE SIMPLY, AGAIN, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE SELF-INSURED WHEN IT COMES TO INSURANCE ON OUR VEHICLES AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF VEHICLES THAT ARE EXPOSED OUT THERE. SO WE'LL ADD, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL SHADE FOR THAT AS WELL AS PROVIDE MORE FUNCTIONALITY FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS. I'M NOT AS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT. SO MR. STEWART, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I'LL PUT 'EM ON THE SPOT AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THAT AND WE HAVE $6 MILLION ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT. AND THEN, UM, LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REGIONAL TRANSIT RECENTLY. I KNOW WE HAD A WORKSHOP, SO LET'S PROPOSED NEXT YEAR IS $600,000 TO PURCHASE LAND FOR THOSE TWO STATIONS. AND THEN AN FY 26 IS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE TWO STATIONS. SO AGAIN, WHAT WAS CALLED OUT WAS A STATION DOWNTOWN AND ALSO A STATION IN, UH, THE NORTH SIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS. SO ANDY AND KEITH IS, I TRY TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND WHAT BUCKET COMES OUTTA WHERE, WHEN, AND HOW. YEP. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT CROSS TIMBERS EXPANSION, COUNSELOR MOORE AND I HAD THAT, IT'S PART OF OUR ORIENTATION, WENT OUT THERE, TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. SO IS THAT EXPANSION OF THE ADDITIONAL CANOPIES AND OR LIKE THE CAR WASH AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT'LL LIKE HELP WITH OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE? YES. IS THAT A CIP P EXPENDITURE OR IS THAT OUT OF THE E P W BUDGET OR JUST WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM AND WHEN DO WE APPROVE THAT? YES. THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN AROUND FOR, I THINK SINCE 2017 WAS WHEN IT FIRST CAME BEFORE CIP P ADVISORY BOARD. IT WAS APPROVED AS A PROJECT TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CIP P FUNDS. UM, INFLATION HAS GROWN THE COST OF THAT SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THOSE YEARS WHERE WE'RE AT 6 MILLION NOW. BUT YES, IT IS SCHEDULED [02:35:01] OR IT WAS APPROVED TO COME OUT OF THE C I P FUNDS. AND IT DOES INCLUDE TWO EQUIPMENT STORAGE SHEDS, SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT YOU SAW ON YOUR TOUR. IT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NO-TOUCH VEHICLE WASH FOR OUR SMALLER VEHICLES, POLICE CARS, PICKUPS, THOSE TYPE VEHICLES. AND THEN REPURPOSING AN EXISTING, UH, EQUIPMENT WASH STATION FOR THE LARGE TRUCKS AND LARGE EQUIPMENT. WE'RE, WE'RE BOUND TO KEEP THAT EQUIPMENT, UM, CLEANED AND, UH, FREE OF GREASE AND OIL AND WE HAVE TO CAPTURE ALL THAT SO WE CAN'T JUST, BACK IN THE DAY, THEY WOULD TAKE IT OUT AND TAKE A FIRE HOSE TO IT AND, AND WASH IT OUT AND ALL OF THAT WOULD GO DOWN THE STORMWATER. BUT, UH, WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE AND, UH, AND I WASN'T AROUND WHEN THEY DID IT. , . SO THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL SHORTLY, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, THEY, UH, WE, WE, MATTER OF FACT, I HEARD FROM OUR DESIGN TEAM LAST WEEK, UH, THEY HAD SOME STORM WATER ISSUES WITH THE PLANS THAT THEY HAD TO REDO, AND THAT'S GOING BACK THROUGH STAFF NOW FOR APPROVAL. GOTCHA. SO WE SHOULD BE OUT TO BID, I WOULD THINK, IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. ALL RIGHT. ANDY, YOU GOT 10 CHARTS LEFT AND WE STILL HAVE A PART AFTER YOU. HMM. AND WE DO. YEAH, I THOUGHT I WAS, HUH? SEE, OH, I'M SORRY. I'LL, I'LL QUICKLY PERUSE THROUGH. UM, SO, AND THEN THE LAST PROJECT IS ADDING A POLICE SUBSTATION IN PARK OFFICE AT ARCADIA LAKE. SO PREVIOUSLY, UH, POLICE USED AN OLD HOUSE, FELL INTO DISREPAIR AS A SUBSTATION. WOW. SUBSTATION IS USED VERY LOOSELY, UM, HAS BEEN SINCE BEEN DEMOED. AND THEN, UM, WITH OUR PARK OFFICES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO CALM OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS I, LOOK, I MADE A LITTLE THING. YAY. THERE IT IS. RIGHT IN THAT LOCATION RIGHT THERE IS THE PROPOSED, UH, SUBSTATION LAKE OFFICE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, $700,000 NEXT YEAR FOR DESIGN OF THAT. AND THEN IN THE, IN AN OUTER YEAR, 3.25 TO CONSTRUCT. SO, UM, THERE'S PICTURES OF THE LATEST PICTURES, RENDERINGS THAT WE HAVE. I WILL USE THE TERM RENDERINGS, CONCEPTUAL ONLY OF THE, UH, LIBRARY AND Y M C A. SO, UM, OVER HERE ON YOUR SCREEN THAT I JUST CUT OFF A LITTLE BIT IS I 35, AND THEN HERE IS 15TH STREET, UH, HENDERSON HILLS BAPTIST CHURCH, OF WHICH WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM. UM, SO THIS KIND OF SITE LAYOUT AS YOU LOOK, ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY LIKED ABOUT THIS SITE AND WHY IT WAS PURSUED, NOT ONLY IS IT, UH, NEAR THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE'RE POSITIONING OUR RESOURCES ACCORDINGLY. BUT THERE IS THIS, UH, JOINT ENTRANCE. THERE IS, THERE'S A SHARED ENTRANCE THAT WE CAN HAVE AND THEN AS WELL AS THIS JOINT PARKING ARRANGEMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU ENTER INTO ONE FACILITY RIGHT HERE. THIS IS JUST THE OVERHEAD IS WHERE THE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF THE LIBRARY WILL BE. AND THEN PRIMARILY HERE, THERE IS SOME JOINT USE HERE, BUT THE REST OF THIS 50,000 SQUARE FEET IS PROPOSED TO BE UTILIZED BY THE Y M C A. AND THEN HERE IS A LOOK AS YOU LOOK FROM THE NORTH BACK TO THE SOUTH, UM, BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW WE BLEND INTO THE SURROUNDINGS. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PROJECT THAT IS SLATED TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN JANUARY OF 2024. UM, AND THEN QUICKLY, I, THESE ARE PROBLEMS THAT IF THERE'S NOT A MUNICIPALITY OR ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE TROUBLE FUNDING ALL THE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE THERE. I THINK IT'S CALLED NARNIA AND IT DOESN'T EXIST. SO I THINK IT'S, UH, PRECEDENT THAT WE ALWAYS BRING THESE THINGS UP OF THINGS THAT, UH, CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IDENTIFIED FUNDING FOR. SO IN AUGUST OF 2022, PREVIOUS CITY ENGINEER, UH, STEVE MANNOCK DID A PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT, UH, TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, UH, ROAD WIDENINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND FROM THAT PRESENTATION WAS $120 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS. AND WE ONLY HAD MONEY FUNDED FOR 40 MILLION OF THAT. WE WERE 80 MILLION SHORT. AN EXAMPLE OF A COUPLE OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE, UH, THE SCHOOLS PROPOSING TO BUILD A NEW ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AT ANTI DEPOT AND COVELL. THERE ARE NO IDENTIFIED FUNDS OF THAT CURRENTLY, UH, FOR THE CITY. AND THEN ALSO THE ULTIMATE WIDENING OF COVELL BETWEEN BROADWAY AND SOONER. SO THE VISION FOR COVELL BETWEEN, UM, THAT STRETCH IS FOR IT TO BE FOUR LANE, UM, FROM SANTA FE ALL THE WAY, UH, THROUGH, UH, THROUGH I 35 BASICALLY. SO, UM, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING FOR RIGHT NOW. AND THEN ALSO PREVIOUS COUNCIL TOOK THE ACTION TO, UH, ADOPT EDMOND SHIP, WHICH IS OUR NEW MOBILITY PLAN. SO THINK, UH, INTERSECTION, WIDENINGS, BIKE LANES, MULTI-USE TRAILS, AS WELL AS STUDIES, SIDEWALK GAPS AND TRAFFIC CALMING. SO IN THE SHORT TERM, THERE WAS 53 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS AND NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCE. AND THEN IN THE LONG TERM, ABOUT 68.5. [02:40:01] SO WHEN YOU ADD UP 53 AND A HALF, 68.5 AND THEN THE 40 GAP HERE, YOU END UP WITH 200, $2 MILLION WORTH OF, UM, NEEDS. BUT, UM, LACK OF FUNDING AND THEN OF COURSE PROJECTS WITH NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH HAS, UH, HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATION AROUND THE TOPIC OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A HOUSING ASSESSMENT THAT'S OUT THAT I KNOW WILL, THE RESULTS WILL BE SHARED SOON. SO THERE HAS BEEN, PREVIOUS COUNCIL DID ALLOCATE SOME ARPA FUNDING TOWARD, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO 1 MILLION WAS EARMARKED FOR THAT, UM, WITH THE GOAL OF WAITING FOR THE ASSESSMENT TO COME BACK TO DRIVE THAT CHAIN TO WHAT, WHATEVER THOSE IMPROVEMENTS MAY LOOK LIKE. AND THEN UNDERNEATH THE PARKS AND QUALITY OF LIFE BUCKET, ARCADIA LAKE, UH, MASTER PLAN IS COMING ALONG NICELY. UM, THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL. JULY, LOOKING FOR A CONFERENCE JULY, THAT'S THE PLAN, JULY, JULY TO THE COUNCIL PARK BOARD FIRST, UH, IN JUNE AND THEN JULY TO THE COUNCIL. AND THEN, UH, POTENTIAL CITY ASSISTANCE TO UNCOMMON GROUND AGAIN IN THIS FIVE YEAR BUDGET. I'M NOT EVEN LOOKING AT FY 24, I'M LOOKING OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. THERE ARE NO FUNDS DEDICATED CURRENTLY FOR UNCOMMON GROUND. UM, AND THEN MITCH PARK AND TO DENYING SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS OUT THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A NEED AS WELL. NO MONEY FOR THAT. AND THEN AS WELL AS FUTURE PARKLAND, WHICH HAS BEEN A TOPIC BEFORE. UM, OF COURSE, UM, CITY STAFF IS ALWAYS ON THE LOOKOUT FOR ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE AND UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW WE'RE DOING WITH OUR EXISTING FUNDS. SO WITH THAT, WE, UH, UTILIZE A CONSULTANT THAT DOES A LOT OF OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER STUDIES TO LOOK AT A REVENUE OPTIMIZATION STUDY. HAD A COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON NOVEMBER 28TH, 2022, AND THEY IDENTIFIED FIVE REVENUE OPTIMIZATION OPPORTUNITIES, ONE OF WHICH OPPORTUNITIES WAS, UH, TO UTILIZE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS PROPERTY TAX. UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, OC UH, EDMOND IS THE ONLY CITY IN OKLAHOMA OVER 50,000 THAT DOESN'T UTILIZE THAT. AND THEN WHAT, UH, UH, 10 MILLS OF PROPERTY TAX OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME FOR MOBILITY PROJECTS. JUST AS AN IDEA. I KNOW IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN, BUT THAT WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY $154 MILLION. AND STAFF IS ALWAYS CONTINUING TO PURSUE GRANTS LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY. SO I HAD MENTIONED SOME OF THE PROJECTS THROUGH ACOG, SO WITH THE DANFORTH AND KELLY, AND SOME TRAIL PROJECTS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN AWARDED, UH, OUR INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC SYSTEM, UH, UH, PHASE FOUR, AND THEN THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PROJECT THAT IS NEARING BUSINESS. SO, UM, AND THEN QUICKLY I'LL MOVE THROUGH PARK TAX FUNDS. SO IT'S PERMANENT TAX, IT'S AN EIGHTH OF A CENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 19 90 CENTS, AND YOU CAN SEE PARKS AND RECREATION AND LEISURE SERVICE FACILITIES. SO IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THIS ONE, UH, EIGHTH OF A CENT TAX WILL GENERATE 3 MILLION, UH, NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THERE'S SOME PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT IT'S DONE. SO, UH, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, TRAIL DESIGN, SOME MONUMENT SIGNAGE, AND THEN IT ASSIST, IT HELPED FUND THE TRAIL RECONSTRUCTION GOING ON AT MITCH PARK RIGHT NOW. AND THEN IT ALSO FUNDS THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COST, UH, THE THREEWAY PARTNERSHIP FOR THE MITCH PARK COMPETITION POOL. AND THEN, UH, FISCAL YEAR PRIORITIES AND PROJECTS THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD ARE $350,000 FOR PELICAN BAY, UH, AND NEEDING SOME REPLACEMENTS. I KNOW WE'RE GETTING IT UP AND RUNNING FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN, IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN REPLACING A PLAY STRUCTURE AT TED MANAGEMENT PARK, IMPROVING LIGHTING AT SERVICE BLAKE, AS WELL AS, UH, CENTER COURT IMPROVEMENTS, B AND RU AND POND REHAB, AND THEN SOME TRAIL, UH, DESIGN. THE APRIL PARK TRAIL IS IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT AS WELL. SO SOME DESIGN MONEY FOR THAT. UH, AND THEN I THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL JUST TO LOOK AT, UH, INVESTMENTS IN PARKS OVER A SIX YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. SO THIS FISCAL YEAR ALL THE WAY THROUGH FY 28 AND THE BIG NUMBER UTILIZING LOTS OF DIFFERENT SOURCES OF FUNDING IS OVER HERE. JUST SHY OF $46 MILLION DEDICATED TO OUR PARK FACILITIES. SO JUST, UH, IT'S NOT JUST PARK TAX FUNDS, UM, BUT IT'S ALSO OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS. UM, AND THAT THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL JUST TO HAVE THIS ON HERE. AGAIN, AS YOU SEE WITH THE, UM, AGING FACILITIES, AS YOU SEE WITH THE HAER PARK RESTROOMS AND STAGE AND DOCK, WHICH HAS HAD FACILITIES THAT ARE, UH, HEAVILY UTILIZED, WHICH IS WONDERFUL, BUT THEY'VE, SOME OF THEM AS WELL AS PELICAN BAY HAVE USED, HAVE, UH, NEED SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THEM IN ORDER TO IMPROVE, UH, HOW LONG THEY'RE ABLE TO BE IN EXISTENCE. UM, AND THEN WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE ONE-TIME MONIES. SO OFTEN WE CAN, UM, VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE CAN FIND THE ONE-TIME MONIES TO BUILD THREE MILES OF TRAIL WITHIN WHAT SORT OF OBLIGATION DID WE TAKE ON MAINTENANCE-WISE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRAIL LOOKS AS GOOD AS IT DOES DAY ONE, AS IT DOES, UH, DAY 1500, RIGHT? SO WE'RE SEEING THAT [02:45:01] RIGHT NOW WITH THE MITCH BARK TRAIL, WHICH AS A REMINDER TO REPLACE ALL OF THAT, UM, COST ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. SO TRAILS HAVE ABOUT A 20 YEAR USEFUL LIFE, NOT ONLY REPLACING BUT FIXING CRACKS IN THE INTERIM, EDGING, WEEDING IT AROUND THEM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, AND THEN AGAIN, UM, REALLY GOOD PROBLEMS TO HAVE, BUT GROWTH RELATED PROBLEMS IS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A COMMUNITY, TWO TO THREE TO 4% A YEAR IN RESIDENCE, THEN THERE'S GONNA BE MORE NEED FOR SERVICES. AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL THOSE NEEDS? SO THERE A LOT, A LOT. YEAH. 328 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS OVER A 23 YEAR PERIOD AND IT'S PROPOSED 108 MILLION NEXT FISCAL YEAR. VERY GOOD. COUNSEL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, ANDY. AT THIS TIME, UM, WE DO LIKE IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, UH, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. UH, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC. I'M NOT SEEING THE PUBLIC PERSON MOVING. . WELL, OUR TWO NEW COUNCIL WELCOME. THIS IS, UH, YOU'RE NOT GOING THROUGH ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE HAS GONE THROUGH UP HERE. UH, YOU GET ELECTED YOU AND THEN THE YOUR, WHEN YOUR FIRST MAJOR THINGS IS A BUDGET. UM, WE DO HAVE TYLENOL OR IBUPROFEN FOR YOU AT YOUR BE AT YOUR DESK WHEN YOU GET BACK, SEEING OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM STAFF. ALSO, I WOULD JUST SAY IF YOU FEEL FREE TO CONTACT KATHY, SCOTT. SCOTT, REMEMBER MY NAME, BEEN ALONG THREE HOURS. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, EVEN MR. MURDOCH, WHO THE ANSWER YOUR, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNLESS YOU ASK SOME QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. HAVEN'T SEEN NO OF THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WELL, UH, DONE, UH, BUDGET REVIEW. IT'S BEEN TEDIOUS FOR ALL, BUT IT'S BEEN WELL WORTH IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL CALL THIS WORKSHOP OVER. PLEASE COME BACK AT FIVE 30 . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.