[1. Call to Order.]
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UH, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A, A JOINT, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND EMMETT PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP.
UH, HOPEFULLY SOME PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WILL SHOW, WILL ATTEND, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY HAVEN'T.
WE, I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME DECLINATIONS, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE ARE STILL AUTHORIZED TO PROCEED.
[2. Presentation and discussion of the Edmond Housing Assessment Report. ]
ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.AND CHRISTIE, YOU WANNA LEAD US OFF AND INTRODUCE EVERYONE WHO'S GONNA BE HERE AND DOING THE PRESENTATION? SURE.
I'M CHRISTIE BATTERSON, THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE, I WON'T BE PRESENTING, OUR CONSULTANT WILL BE PRESENTING OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BACK IN NOVEMBER AFTER BEING IDENTIFIED IN NOT ONLY THE EDMOND PLAN 2018, BUT ALSO AS CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC INITIATIVE.
UM, SO WE WENT OUT TO BID FOR A CONSULTANT TO DO A HOUSING ASSESSMENT.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH OF THEIR PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT IS A PRETTY, UH, PRETTY FANTASTIC PRESENTATION.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, UM, THE TWO INDIVIDUALS FROM DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.
UM, JENNY CONLEY BOWEN, AND, UM, ANDY FEER.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I WAS READY TO SAY COMMISSIONERS, BUT MAYBE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS AFTERNOON.
WE'RE EXCITED TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR CITY TEAM ON.
AND I, I DO WANNA SAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS AS WE GO.
WE'RE H WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS AND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING AND WHAT WE FOUND.
AND I WANNA START BY, BY TALKING AT A HIGH LEVEL WHY WE'RE HERE, UM, AND REVIEW THAT.
YOU KNOW, EDMUND LEADERSHIP MANY MONTHS AGO RECOGNIZED THAT THERE'S A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGE IN THE CITY OF EDMUND AND REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, UM, WHAT THAT CHALLENGE REALLY IS.
WHAT PRICE POINTS ARE NEEDED, WHAT HOUSING TYPES ARE NEEDED, UM, TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, A LONG-TERM VIABILITY, LONG-TERM VIABILITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND ANOTHER REASON IS THERE'S BEEN SOME CHALLENGES IN BRINGING NEW UNITS, UH, TO, TO THE MARKET.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE, UM, TO THIS CITY THAT WE DO NOT SEE IN MANY OF THE PLACES WE WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, THAT TWO, TWO LARGE MULTIFAMILY CLASS A DEVELOPMENTS WERE APPROVED THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AND BY THE GOVERNING BODY.
BUT THEN WERE TURNED DOWN AND IT, IT'S ADDED TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGE OF BRINGING MORE HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT GROWTH.
UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE PULLED WHEN WE DID THE INTERVIEW LAST SUMMER, UM, WITH THE CITY TEAM.
AND IT WAS REALLY SURPRISING TO SEE THAT OVER THE LAST DECADE, 94, 4% OF PERMITS ISSUED WERE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND WE JUST DON'T SEE THIS IN WHAT WE CONSIDER SOME OF THE PEER COMMUNITIES.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF A QUESTION OF WHY AND WHAT'S REALLY NEEDED, LIKE IS MORE HOUSING UNIVERSITY NEEDED, REALLY DROVE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
AND EVEN WHEN YOU COMPARE EDMOND TO, UM, OKLAHOMA AND THE UNITED STATES, YOU'VE HAD, UH, MUCH FEWER MULTIFAMILY UNITS DELIVERED TO THE MARKET.
AND SO THIS HAS SOME LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC AND FISCAL HEALTH FOR THE CITY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND, UH, JENNY'S GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE LEARNED THROUGH SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND SURVEYS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT ALL OF THE STUFF THAT WE, WE'VE LEARNED AND OUR, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR EDMOND.
UM, SO AS ANDY MENTIONED, WE'VE LEARNED THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY BROAD SUPPORT FOR MORE HOUSING VARIETY IN EDMOND.
AND THIS WAS REALLY, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO OBVIOUSLY ESTABLISH A ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY WITH THIS HOUSING ASSESSMENT BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO RECOMMEND STRATEGIES THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE RIGHT FIT FOR EDMOND, THAT ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE GOOD CITIZEN SUPPORT.
SO THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, WE'VE LEARNED THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY BROAD SUPPORT FOR MORE HOUSING VARIETY IN EDMOND.
UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN ON EDMOND SOCIAL MEDIA OR BEEN ON THEIR WEBSITE IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE INFOGRAPHICS WE'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT ABOUT SOME OF THE, UM, INFORMATION WE'VE GATHERED FROM OUR MARKET ANALYSIS AND FROM THE FIRST SURVEY THAT WE DID.
UM, AND THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THAT THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE HOUSING THAT PEOPLE PREFER IN EDMOND AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE.
SO IN OUR FIRST HOUSING ASSESSMENT SURVEY WHERE, UH, 93% OF THE RESPONDENTS LIVE IN EDMOND, UM, 42% OF RESPONSES SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE PAYING BETWEEN 150,000 AND 300,000 FOR A HOME THAT THEY WOULD OWN.
UM, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS, IN THE, IN THIS CONTEXT, THAT THE MEDIAN HOUSING VALUE IN EDMOND IS $282,000.
UM, ONLY 20% OF RESPONSES INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE PAYING $400,000 OR MORE.
AND THIS IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE OF A NEW HOUSE IN EDMOND IS $429,000.
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FOLKS CAN PREFER AND WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE OUT THERE ON THE MARKET, UM, ARE NOT ALWAYS ALIGNED.UH, THE SECOND THING WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS ANOTHER PART OF THE SURVEY.
WE ASKED FOLKS TO, UM, RANK FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT PRIORITIES FOR THE, THE FUTURE OF HOUSING IN EDMOND.
AND THE NUMBER ONE VOTED FOR PRIORITY AMONG ALL THE DIFFERENT SURVEY RESPONDENTS WAS HOUSING OPTIONS FOR SALE OR RENTAL AT PRICE POINTS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.
SO WE SAW 53% OF TOTAL RESPONDENTS WHO FELT THIS PRIORITY WAS EITHER A FIVE OR A FOUR.
SO THE MOST IMPORTANT, UM, OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE, THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED, THIS WAS ALSO THE TOP RATED PRIORITY FOR PEOPLE UNDER 34, UNDER THE AGE OF 34.
AND FOR PEOPLE WITH HOUSEHOLD INCOMES OF $75,000 OR LESS.
WE ALSO, UH, BACK IN APRIL DID, HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING A COUPLE OF, UH, COMMUNITY POPUPS AT THE FARMER'S MARKET AND HEARD ON HEARD, UM, THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
AND, UM, WE HAD SOME BOARDS WITH US WHERE WE ASKED FOLKS TO PUT DOT STICKERS ON THEIR FAVORITE, FAVORITE HOUSING TYPES AND TELL US WHICH ONES THEY LIKED.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PREFERENCE FOR THE TRADITIONAL SORT OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
YOU CAN KIND OF TRACK WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE CONCENTRATION OF STICKERS ARE.
UM, BUT THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF PREFERENCE FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES, YOU KNOW, DENSER HOUSING OPTIONS THAN YOU MIGHT EXPECT FROM, OR DENSER HOUSING OPTIONS THAN JUST THE, AGAIN, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT IN, OUT, IN THE, IN, IN CONVERSATION.
SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW UNDER SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED OPTIONS.
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR MIXED USE, UM, HOUSING WHERE WE HA SEE HOUSING MIXED WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS SORT OF IN DENSER, DENSER CONFIGURATIONS.
SO HERE'S A FEW, HERE'S A FEW MORE EXAMPLES OF THAT.
AND THE TAKEAWAY HERE, AND ANDY'S GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT IN A MINUTE ABOUT OUR MARKET ANALYSIS THAT'S, THAT HAS COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS, IS THAT EDMUND NEEDS 8,900 HOMES OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND TO GET THERE, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON A CHANGE IN APPROACH FROM EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE HOUSING MARKET.
AND SO WHAT DO WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY 8,900 UNITS ARE NEEDED? UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF KEY ASSUMPTIONS BEHIND, UM, THIS GRAPH, WHICH SHOWS THAT DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND PRICE POINTS, UM, WHERE THE DEMAND LIES.
WE'RE ASSUMING THAT HOUSEHOLDS ARE NOT COST BURDENED OR PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME FOR HOUSING, AND THAT'S FOR SALE OR RENT.
AND REALLY WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT ALL TYPES OF HOUSING ARE NEEDED, WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEVER IGNORE KIND OF, THERE'S GONNA BE CONTINUED DEMAND FOR THE HIGHER INCOME HOUSING THAT'S BEEN REALLY THE BREAD AND BUTTER FOR THE EDMUND COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND, INCLUDING CURRENT PENT UP DEMAND FOR THIS MORE MODERATELY PRICED HOUSING THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT 150 TO $300,000 RANGE OR RENTAL RATES OF, YOU KNOW, 900 TO $1,500.
UM, THERE'S ALSO CONSIDERABLE DEMAND FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT SUPPORTS A LOT OF THE WORKFORCE.
UH, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH MAJOR EMPLOYERS WHO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LOT OF OPENINGS FOR ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS OR SERVICE POSITIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMPETING WITH OTHER AREAS OF THE REGION FOR THOSE WORKERS WHO HAVE HOUSING CLOSER.
SO THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE TO COMMUTE HERE, UH, FOR THOSE JOBS.
AND SO WE ALSO INCLUDED PIPELINE DEVELOPMENT AT THE BOTTOM, UH, OF WHAT WE KNOW IS BEING DEVELOPED TODAY THAT'S, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS.
UM, AND SO REALLY THERE'S DEMAND ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, THIS INCLUDES ALL TYPES OF HOUSING, UH, RENTAL AND FOR SALE.
I, AND SO IF THE GOALS OF THE SESSION MOVING FORWARD ARE TO, YOU KNOW, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE GONNA, WE REVIEWED THE KEY FINDINGS ALREADY AND WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE STRATEGY FRAMEWORK.
SO REALLY A LOT OF TIMES THE QUESTION IS, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? AND, UM, THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, WE HAVE SOME PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE LEARNED HERE AND BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
YES, THE FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS ARE, THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE GONNA BE WEAVED THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION.
YOU, YOU ALL SAID IN THE VERY BEGINNING THAT THERE'S SOME LONG-TERM ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS FROM WHAT YOU, FROM YOUR ASSESSMENT.
SO I WAS WONDERING, UM, CUZ I WANT TO TAKE SOME COPIOUS NOTES ON, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S TO THE CITY OR TO OUR COMMUNITY? YES.
UM, WE DID NOT, UM, IT WAS NOT PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE STUDY TO OKAY.
UM, BUT WE'RE BASING THAT PARTLY ON, UM, A REVENUE STUDY AND EXPERIENCE
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IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, KIND OF HAS A LOWER RETURN OVER TIME.SO IT'S DOESN'T ALWAYS PAY FOR IT ITSELF IN TERMS OF PROVIDING, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES.
SO JENNY, WE'LL TALK QUICKLY ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE.
UM, SO A FEW NOTES ON OUR PROCESS.
THIS IS A VERY ROBUST PROCESS.
UM, IT'S OVERALL AN EIGHT TO 10 MONTH EFFORT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE NOVEMBER, SO WE'RE ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT-ISH MONTHS IN.
I WON'T, UH, ASK YOU TO READ ALL THOSE WORDS ON THE SLIDE, BUT, UM, WE ARE ON STEP FOUR NOW REPORT, WHICH MAY BE SELF-EXPLANATORY GIVEN THE TITLE OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
UM, BUT JUST TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT, THIS IS VERY ITERATIVE.
IT'S BEEN GUIDED BY A STEERING COMMITTEE AND BY, UM, OUR CITY TEAM, OUR CLIENT TEAM.
AND IT STARTS WITH THE KICKOFF, WHICH IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
WE KICK OFF, WE COME SEE THE COMMUNITY, WE GET A TOUR.
WE SORT OF DOWNLOAD A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT CONTINUES INTO AN UNDERSTAND PHASE WHERE WE'RE CONTINUING TO GATHER LOTS OF INFORMATION, BOTH, UM, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA AND INFORMATION WE'RE LEARNING FROM STAKEHOLDERS ON THE GROUND.
ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED, WE GO ON TO ANALYZE IT.
UM, THEN ONCE WE HAVE HAVE AN ANALYSIS AND SORT OF SOME CONCLUSIONS, WE, UM, MOVE ON TO THE STRATEGIZE PHASE.
WE'LL BE TALKING A LOT ABOUT OUR STRATEGIES TODAY.
UH, WE WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE CITY TEAM, UM, AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC TO COME UP WITH SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN UNCOVERED IN EDMOND.
AND FINALLY, WE'RE ON THE REPORT PHASE NOW WHERE WE ARE PULLING TOGETHER THE REPORT.
SO WE ARE EXCITED TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT ALL THIS TODAY.
AS I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, UM, THERE'S BEEN A VERY ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT'S BEEN PART OF THIS STUDY.
IT'S INCLUDED MEETINGS WITH, WITH A STEERING COMMITTEE AND THAT THAT INCLUDES A BROAD CROSS SECTION OF LOCAL LEADERSHIP THAT REALLY DEEPLY UNDERSTANDS THE HOUSING MARKET.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF FOCUS GROUPS BACK IN APRIL WITH, UH, SOME, UH, KEY GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ESPECIALLY IMPACTED BY HOUSING ISSUES HERE IN EDMOND THAT INCLUDED YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND RENTERS, UM, AND DEVELOPERS.
UH, WE ALSO HAD, AS I AGAIN MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, TWO PUBLIC POPUPS AT, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET AND HEARD UNHEARD WHERE WE SET UP A BOOTH AND WE HAD SOME BOARDS AND WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS, HAD PEOPLE DO THE.VOTING, BUT ALSO HAD SOME BOARDS WITH POST-IT NOTES AND HAD SOME GOOD DEEP CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE AND WERE ABLE TO GATHER SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE STUDY, WE'VE HAD NINE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, AND THAT'S WITH, UM, THOSE WERE A LITTLE MORE BROAD THAN THE FOCUS GROUPS WHERE IN THAT A NUMBER IT'S, IT WAS A BROADER CROSS SECTION OF FOLKS THAT WERE INVITED TO COME PARTICIPATE AND TELL US ABOUT HOUSING IN EDMOND.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAD TWO SURVEYS.
ONE WAS, UM, A REALLY LONG SURVEY THAT WAS, WELL, NOT REALLY LONG, BUT LONGER SURVEY THAT WAS RELEASED IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
UM, AND THEN A SHORTER SURVEY ON HOUSING PREFERENCES THAT CAME OUT IN APRIL AND WAS OPEN THROUGH MAY.
AND, UM, BETWEEN THOSE TWO SURVEYS, WE HAD OVER 2000 RESPONSES.
WE DID NOT TRACK THIS ON THE SECOND SURVEY, BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON THE FIRST SURVEY, 93% OF HOUSING NEEDS SURVEY RESPONDENTS LIVE IN EDMOND ON THAT FIRST SURVEY, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOT OVER 1700 RESPONSES.
SO THAT WAS THE REALLY ROBUST ONE, MOSTLY FOLKS WHO LIVE IN EDMOND.
SO FROM ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT ANDY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE COME UP WITH SORT OF SIX KEY THEMES, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, THAT WILL BE SORT OF RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND AS YOU HEAR THE STRATEGIES FROM US TODAY.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, EDMUND'S HOUSING IS UNATTAINABLE FOR MOST.
UM, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS AGAIN, IF YOU'VE, IF YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE INFOGRAPHICS THAT HAVE BEEN RUNNING ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON THE WEBSITE, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THIS STAT ALREADY, BUT 64% OF EDMUND RESIDENTS CANNOT AFFORD THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A NEW HOME HERE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, UM, THAT'S PRETTY HIGH.
UH, THE MARKET IS COMPETITIVE.
THIS IS THE CASE IN LOTS OF COMMUNITIES.
UM, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY THE CASE IN EDMOND AS WELL.
THERE JUST AREN'T ENOUGH UNITS AVAILABLE TODAY FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO LIVE IN EDMOND.
UH, THE CITY'S POPULATION IS CHANGING.
SO, UH, YOUNG FAMILIES AND EMPTY NESTERS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING OPTIONS.
AND AGAIN, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THIS ON SOME OF THE INFOGRAPHICS WE'VE BEEN RELEASING THE, UH, POPULATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, AS IN LIKE YOUNG ADULTS HAS BEEN GROWING SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS.
BUT THAT IS PROJECTED TO START DECLINING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND WE THEORIZE THAT SOME OF THAT MIGHT, MAY IS LIKELY RELATED TO THE, THE HOUSING ISSUES THAT EDMOND IS FACING.
UM, AS ANDY MENTIONED BEFORE, THE HOUSING MARKET'S CREATING SOME CHALLENGES FOR EMPLOYERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO FRONTLINE WORKERS, UM, WHO WORK HERE AND MAYBE HAVE TO COMMUTE LONG DISTANCES.
AND THAT WORKS FOR SOME FOLKS, BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE.
THERE ARE SOME, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF WHERE THEY WORK.
THERE ARE OTHERS, UM, OTHER EMPLOYERS THAT TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT FOLKS FINDING OTHER JOBS THAT ARE CLOSER TO WHERE THEY LIVE.
YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UM, IF FOLKS ARE LIVING 25, 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM EDMOND, THEY LIVE IN COMMUNITIES THAT ALSO HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND IT MIGHT JUST END UP BEING MORE FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO END UP GETTING JOBS IN THOSE PLACES.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN FOR EMPLOYERS.
UM, HOUSING CHALLENGES ARE DIFFERENT ACROSS THE CITY.
THIS IS THE CASE IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, BUT YOU HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS HERE WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING.
AND EDMUND'S MARKET TRENDS ARE UNUSUAL IN THAT, UM, THEY'RE, UH, I MEAN EVERY, EVERY COMMUNITY IS UNIQUE IN ITS OWN WAY.
BUT IN EDMUND'S CASE, UH, YOU'RE, THE MARKET TRENDS YOU'RE SEEING DIFFER, UM, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS FROM THE TRENDS IN OKLAHOMA AND THE TRENDS, UH, NATIONALLY AS WELL.
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THERE? SO THERE WE CAN PULL UP SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICS THAT'S WE'RE GOING THERE.WE CAN PULL UP SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICS LATER.
BUT THERE, THERE ARE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
UM, UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, HOUSING PRICES ARE THE, UM, THE MEDIAN HOUSING PRICE I BELIEVE IN, IN, UM, EDMOND, UH, IS THE, THE, UM, MEDIAN IN OKLAHOMA IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE NATIONAL LEVEL THAN IT IS IN EDMOND, EDMOND IN OUTLIER IN THAT WAY.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STATS THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO OKAY.
SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT, ANDY.
I THINK THIS IS
AND SO THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF A LOT OF THE, THE FINDINGS IN THE STUDY, WHICH ARE, UM, SUBSTANTIATED IN THE REPORT THAT'S COMING AND THAT WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF IN THE APPENDIX OF THIS PRESENTATION.
SO I WANT TO TAKE, UM, SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE STRAT STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK.
UM, THIS, A HOUSING STRATEGY KIND OF SITS BETWEEN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, THE PROGRAMS, ET CETERA, THAT A CITY HAS AND ITS TOOLBOX TO HELP FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT AND SOME OF THE, THE OVERARCHING GOALS OF A COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT IS NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OR, UM, CREATING, YOU KNOW, MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
UM, THE HOUSING STRATEGY HELPS GET YOU THERE USING EXISTING TOOLS AND EXPANDING THEM TO KIND OF TARGET THESE, THESE THINGS.
THE HOUSING STRATEGY WON'T SOLVE ALL THE CHALLENGES IT'S FOCUSED ON, ON, UM, ON HOUSING AND KIND OF INCREMENTAL STEPS TO HELP, UM, MEET THE NEEDS BETTER AS A CITY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO AND THROUGH THE DATA ANALYSIS ANALYSIS OF CASE STUDIES AND BEST PRACTICES, CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ALL THE OTHER WORK IS REALLY DEFINE, AND THIS IS WORKING WITH THIS, THE CITY TEAM AND, UH, STEERING COMMITTEE, KIND OF WHAT ARE THOSE KEY HOUSING GOALS? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN REALLY CATER THE STRATEGIES TOWARD ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS.
AND THESE SIX GOALS ARE WHAT REALLY CAME OUT OF, OUT OF THIS WORK.
INCREASING HOUSING SUPPLY, CREATING MORE ATTAINABLE OPTIONS FOR YOUNG FAMILIES, CREATING MORE OPTIONS FOR AGING IN PLACE AND THOSE WHO WANT TO DOWNSIZE AND STAY IN THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSING OPTIONS THAT SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE AREA, BUSINESSES AND INSTITUTIONS.
IMPROVING THE CONDITION OF OLDER HOUSING STOCK THAT THAT MIGHT BE RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE TODAY, BUT ALSO PRESERVING THE AFFORDABILITY, IT'S TAKING CARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A CRITICAL ASSET THAT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE, BUT STARTING TO SEE SOME CONDITION CHALLENGES, UM, IN OLDER AREAS OF THE CITY.
AND THEN EXPANDING SUPPORT FOR ALL TYPES OF NEW CON CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY.
AND SO, UM, WITH THAT WE HAVE CREATED FOUR STRATEGIES OR STR STRATEGY CATEGORIES.
AND THAT'S, UH, WHAT WE'LL WALK THROUGH NOW IS REDUCING BARRIERS TO EXPANDING PRODUCTION OF HOUSING, DIVERSIFYING TYPES AND PRICE POINTS OF HOUSING, FACILITATING THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE OLDER HOUSING STOCK AND THEN SUPPORTING THE ECONOMY THROUGH WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND, UM, AND ANOTHER THOUGHT THERE THAT ESCAPED ME MM-HMM.
AND, UH, WE DEFINITELY RECOGNIZE AND THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT SOLVE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES AND HOUSING CHALLENGES, BUT THERE'S A ROLE IN THE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT YOU ALL PUT IN PLACE AND SUPPORT IN ADDRESSING THESE CHALLENGES.
SO, UM, THE FORMAT OF THIS IS WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY A COUPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, OF REASONS WHY FROM THE ANALYSIS WE RECOMMEND THESE STRATEGIES.
UM, REDUCING BARRIERS TO EXPANDING PRODUCTION.
THE AVERAGE PRODUCTION RATE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS IS ABOUT 570 UNITS PER YEAR.
AND YOU NEED TO INCREASE THAT TO OVER 800 UNITS A YEAR TO MEET DEMAND OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO THERE'S A NEED TO MAKE IT EASIER TO PRODUCE HOUSING IN EDMOND.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE REPORTED, UH, CHALLENGE OF FINDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, WHATEVER THAT MEANS TO THE HOUSEHOLD.
IT'S NOT JUST, UM, CAPITAL A AFFORDABLE OR THE PROGRAMS THAT MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S NEAR WHERE THEY WANT TO BE, WHETHER IT'S, UM, THEIR JOBS OR A LOT OF SCHOOLS OR OTHER COMMUNITY AMENITIES.
AND SO WE, UM, WORK TO CREATE SIX TACTICS OR PROGRAMS OR POLICIES THAT HELP WOULD HELP THE CITY ADDRESS, UM,
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THIS STRATEGY.SO REDUCING BARRIERS, UM, ONE IS USING FUNDING TOOLS SUCH AS TIF OR IMPACT FEES TO HELP PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT SUPPORT AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE, THE SECOND ONE IS LEVERAGING CITY OWNED ASSETS TO SUPPORT KIND OF SOME OF THESE BROADER GOALS THAT IT'S HARD FOR THE MARKET TO PROVIDE, WHICH IS AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE, MIXED INCOME AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT EXPLORING, UH, REINSTATING THE URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY TO KIND OF HELP FACILITATE LAND ACQUISITION AND ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD SUPPORT AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING GOALS.
WORKING WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO REDUCE THE TIME REQUIRED FOR DEVELOPMENT.
BECAUSE IN, UH, PRE-DEVELOPMENT, UM, ANY DELAYS DO START ADDING TO THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING AFFORDABILITY AND ATTAINABILITY, REDUCING DEVELOPMENT, PRE-DEVELOPMENT TIME IS, IS A PART OF THAT UP UPDATING THE ZONING CODE TO ALLOW MORE HOUSING TYPES BY RIGHT.
UM, AND PERHAPS INCORPORATING OTHER INCENTIVES THAT, UH, SUCH AS AFFORDABILITY SET ASIDES, UM, AS PART OF THAT FLEXIBLE DESIGN STANDARDS TO KIND JUST ALLOW MORE, UM, BY RIGHT.
WE INCLUDED IT IN THIS EVEN THOUGH IT'S UNDERWAY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE UPDATE TO THE ZONING CODE DOES CREATE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN BUILD.
WHAT TYPES OF HOUSING FOR 1.2 AND 1.3, OR EXCUSE ME, 1.2.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY, UM, EXAMPLES OF WHAT MIGHT BE, UM, OTHER CITIES OR OBVIOUSLY FOR ADMIN, WHAT MIGHT BE A CITY-OWNED ASSET THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED THAT WE COULD EVALUATE TO SUPPORT THAT GOAL IN 1.2? WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE TYPES OF ASSETS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? UM, YOU KNOW, AT A HIGH LEVEL IT'S ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, THIS SITE OVER HERE COULD BE ONE, IT'S ANY KIND OF PROPERTY THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED OR VACANT THAT, UM, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS CONTROL OF YOU CAN SET THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE.
AND THAT MEANS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MARKET FOR ALL TYPES OF HOUSING, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO IN AN RF DEVELOPMENT RFP, YOU CAN CAN REQUEST PROPOSALS THAT HAVE A MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, FOR INSTANCE, UM, WITH COMMERCIAL ON, ON, ON THE BOTTOM OR SOMETHING, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HERE, UM, HERE WHERE IT MIGHT BE KIND OF ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO YOU CAN SET THOSE PARAMETERS AND THEN CLEARLY OFFER WHAT ROLE THE CITY'S WILLING TO PLAY.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE'S A, A REDUCED PURCHASE PRICE OR IT ALIGNS WITH, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDING TOOLS OR INCENTIVES TO GET THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, UM, LIKE THE, THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE MARKET CAN'T PRODUCE ON ITS OWN WITHOUT SOME SORT OF ASSISTANCE.
SO IN ADDITION, UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT EXAMPLE CAUSE THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS BEST USE OF THAT LAND FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
UM, IN ADDITION TO LAND, ANY OTHER EXAMPLES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE COME ACROSS IN YOUR ANALYSIS OR RESEARCH FOR OTHER CITIES OR PERHAPS OR OWN OUTSIDE OF LAND THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SOME SORT OF CITY ASSET THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING THIS, UH, UH, MORE OF THESE, UH, MIXED INCOME OR WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUTSIDE OF THE LAND EXAMPLE? ARE THERE, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY JUICE'S FLOWING.
UH, NORMALLY IT IS A, IT IS LAND OR LIKE A BUILDING THAT IS VACANT.
IT'S A REAL ESTATE ASSET USUALLY.
UM, AND THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT WE SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CITIES IT COULD BE AN OLD, UH, LIKE IN LOUISVILLE THERE'S AN OLD KIND OF UTILITY THAT THEY CLEANED UP AND THEN THERE'S A HISTORIC TRUCTURE, IT'S BROWNSY OLDER, SOMETHING THAT, YEAH.
SO THE, JUST PULL THAT MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT TOO.
THANK, UM, SO THE SECOND STRATEGY CATEGORY IS DIVERSING DIVERSIFYING THE TYPES AND PRICE POINTS OF HOUSING.
AND THIS GOES BACK TO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT JENNY MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THAT 64% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN EDMOND TODAY CANNOT AFFORD THE AVERAGE NEW HOME PURCHASE PRICE OF $430,000, WHICH WAS FROM LAST FALL.
SO IT MAY HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD, WE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS ON THE SURVEY THAT WE, WE LOOKED AT AS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE HERE FROM A, A YOUNGER FAMILY, A RENTER THAT WANTED TO BUY A PRI A A HOME HERE SAID, I HAVE BEEN OUTBID
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BY AN INVESTOR AT EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN MY PRICE AND BUDGET, WHICH, WHICH IS 140,000 OR BELOW HERE.SO THERE'S, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.
WE HEARD ABOUT A LOT OF HOUSEHOLDS CHOOSING TO LIVE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF EDMOND BECAUSE THEY COULD FIND A HOME THERE THAT THEY COULD AFFORD, BUT THEY WANTED TO LIVE IN EDMOND.
AND SO WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE SOME TACTICS OR ACTIONS THE CITY CAN TAKE? UM, AND THIS IS ABOUT MAKING IT EASIER, UM, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO HELP MEET THIS NEED.
SO IT'S CREATING, UH, WHAT WE CALL LOOK BOOK OF HOUSING TYPOLOGIES.
UM, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF I BUILT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME ATTACHED HOUSING IN SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS OR JUST DIFFERENT HOUSING PRODUCTS THAT MIGHT INTRODUCE, UH, BROADER DIVERSITY OF, OF PRICE POINTS.
UM, YOU CAN BUILD SOME AFFORDABILITY IN BY DESIGN, DIFFERENT DESIGN, DIFFERENT SIZE, ET CETERA.
AND THIS WOULD JUST CREATE A RESOURCE THAT THE CITY COULD HAVE AND COULD BE EXAMPLES FROM NEARBY CITIES OR EVEN SOME OF THE PROJECTS HERE THAT ARE UNDERWAY THAT JUST SHOW LIKE, THESE ARE POSSIBLE, THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
UM, AND UH, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES YOU COULD HAVE, PEOPLE WOULD SHARE THE PLANS OR ET CETERA.
ANOTHER WAY IS, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS STUDY HAS A LOT OF CURRENT DATA, A LOT OF DATA FOR THE, FOR THE CITY TO USE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UPDATE IT SO YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S BEEN PROGRESS, WHERE CHALLENGES ARE CONTINUING, ET CETERA.
SO KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE HOUSING TRENDS BASED ON TYPE DEMOGRAPHIC MARKETS.
UM, DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP PATTERNS, AVAILABLE LOTS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME BASIS OF INFORMATION.
UM, SOME COMMUNITIES ARE, UM, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY YEARS, BUT WORK WITH AN ARCHITECT AND SOME BUILDERS TO CREATE PRE-APPROVED PLANS FOR, UM, DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES.
UM, AND WHERE, WHERE THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED BY.
AND SO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR THOSE HOUSING TYPES IS ACCELERATED.
SO YOU HAVE THE PLANS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE READY TO GO IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS.
AND SO IT SPEEDS UP THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BUT ALSO, UH, MAKES IT EASIER TO DO MORE HOUSING VARIETY, MARKETING DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, THE BROADER DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
UM, SO YOU GET MORE BUILDERS HERE CUZ YOU NEED TO ACCELERATE THE PACE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND THIS MAY BE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH THE BOARD OF REALTORS THAN OTHERS TO JUST MARKET WHAT'S POSSIBLE HERE IN EDMOND AND THEN CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND REVISE BUILDING CODES TO POTENTIALLY RAISE THE UNIT COUNT THRESHOLD FOR CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
UM, MAINTAINING THE SAFETY OF UNITS.
SOMETIMES THE, YOU KNOW, ZONING ALLOWS CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT CODE MAKES IT HARDER TO BUILD CERTAIN HOUSING PROJECT PRODUCTS.
COULD YOU EXPAND ON 2.4 AND 2.5 I, WHAT WAS THAT? TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, UM, ON 2.4, UH, MARKETING DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, WELL WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, UM, PART OF IT IS USING THE STUDY THAT EXPLAINS WHAT THE DIFFERENT HOUSING NEEDS ARE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IT'S GETTING MORE, MORE DEVELOPERS, MORE PEOPLE DOING THE WORK HERE, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN MEET THE HOUSING NEED.
CAUSE YOU NEED TO INCREASE THE PACE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND SOMETIMES SOME OF THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL HOUSING DEVELOPERS ARE STRAINED AT CAPACITY AND SOMETIMES GETTING OTHER DEVELOPERS CAN BRING MORE DIVERSE HOUSING PRODUCTS TO THE MARKET.
AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DOING THAT, IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR A CHAMBER TAKING THE LEAD IN THAT.
BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU HAVE A CITY OWNED SITE, YOU WOULD WANT TO, TO, UM, MARKET WHATEVER OPPORTUNITY YOU WANT THERE BROADLY, SO YOU GET THE BEST PROPOSAL.
SO IT'S JUST GETTING MORE, MORE OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT HERE.
IS THAT CLOSE ENOUGH? CLOSE ENOUGH.
ARE WE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW? IN THE CITY OF YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT 2.5.
ARE WE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW OR IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NEED TO, THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST TO BE IMPLEMENTED? THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION.
SO AS FAR AS ON THE BUILDING SIDE, WE DON'T HAVE PRE SORT OF PRE SORT OF 90% THEIR PLANS APPROVED FOR CORRECT.
CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS OR ANYTHING.
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YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING IT APPROVED BY THE, UH, CITIZENS ALSO.THE RESEARCH WE DID, THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS AND EXPENDED THE, THE RESOURCES TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT AND THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
AND THERE'S COMMUNITIES WHERE THIS PROGRAM, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S WHERE THEY KIND OF WORKED WITH NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SO THERE'S CLARITY ABOUT WHAT'S COMING.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S OPPOSITION OR FEAR WHEN, WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND SOMETHING'S JUST PROPOSED NEW.
BUT WHEN, WHEN THERE'S, YOU WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS AND THE COMMUNITY, IT'S LIKE YOU GET A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE PRODUCT AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE REPORT.
AND 2.5 AND 2.5, UM, THE BUILDING CODES ARE KIND OF EVER EVOLVING.
AND WE KNOW THERE'S STATE LIMITATIONS, LIKE STATE MANDATED LIMITATIONS TO WHAT'S DONE.
WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF BUILDERS IN COMMUNITIES IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A UNIT COUNT THRESHOLD WHERE IT GOES FROM A RESIDENTIAL REVIEW TO COMMERCIAL REVIEW THAT ADDS A WHOLE, UH, RANGE OF STANDARDS THAT INCREASE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT COST.
SOME ARE WELL INTENDED, SOME, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.
UM, THERE'S UNIT COUNT THRESHOLDS THAT REQUIRE, UM, A BUILDING TO BE SPRINKLER.
UM, WHEN YOU GO FROM, I, I FORGOT THE UNIT COUNTS, IT VARIES FROM PLACE TO PLACE, BUT THAT ADDS ANOTHER KIND OF COST TO, UH, PROVIDING THE UNITS.
IT IS A SAFETY, YOU WOULD, I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND ANYTHING THAT WOULD DIMINISH THE SAFETY OF UNITS, BUT THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO PRODUCE HOUSING THAT AREN'T LIKE, CONSIDERED NECESSARY FOR THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF THE HOUSING.
AND NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE CITY'S CONTROL, BUT THERE ARE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT COULD BE.
SO YOU HAVE EXAMPLES, HOPEFULLY OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOOKING AT THEIR CODES VERSUS THE, I'M I'M ASSUMING THESE OTHER CODES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE, THE NATIONAL CODES THAT COME DOWN THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY.
UH, IT'S NORMALLY BASED ON THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE MM-HMM.
BUT THERE'S USUALLY SOME LEEWAY IN, IN THERE FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
HOW HAVE YOU SEEN IN YOUR GUYS' RESEARCH THE BALANCE BETWEEN I WANT A LOW PRICE POINT THAT OFFERS ENTRY AND THEN THAT'S USUALLY WHAT MOST PEOPLE FOCUS ON, RIGHT.
WOULD BE THE STICKER PRICE BECAUSE THAT THEY'RE SITTING DOWN WITH THEIR BANKER AND MORTGAGE LENDER KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AS I DID FILLING OUT MY FIRST FORMS, KIND OF NERVOUSLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL COST OF OWNERSHIP MM-HMM.
HOW HAVE YOU SEEN THAT BALANCE OR HAVE YOU SEEN THAT WORK SORT OF EFFECTIVELY ABOUT HOW, UH, MORE EFFICIENT THINGS ARE PUT IN THAT MIGHT CREATE A HIGHER, YOU KNOW, COST PRICE POINT, BUT OVERALL LOWER? SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THE PURCHASE PRICE AND NOTHING ELSE.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
UM, ABSOLUTELY THAT IT CONTINUES TO BE THE FOCUS FOR UNDERWRITING AND IMPROVING PEOPLE FOR LOANS IS THE PURCHASE PRICE.
UH, AND I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTIES WHO NEED TO CHANGE OR, OR INNOVATE TO HELP WITH HOUSING.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S ONE IS THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A DEVELOPER IN TULSA WHO DOES PANELIZED CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT'S, UM, INSULATED PANELS THAT ARE TRUCKED IN AND PUT IN PLACE.
IT COSTS THE SAME TO DEVELOP AS STICK STICK-BUILT OR FRAMED HOUSING, BUT YOU CAN BUILD IT A LOT FASTER.
AND THEN THE, THE LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY, THE MONTHLY CO UTILITY COST IS, IS GREATLY BELOW, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE A CITY ENCOURAGING LENDERS TO FACTOR THAT IN.
AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LATER.
WE TALK ABOUT ADVOCACY FOR CHANGES.
UM, LORD IS TRULY UNIQUE BECAUSE WE OWN OUR OWN UTILITY MM-HMM.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK WHERE SOMETIMES THERE'S ACTUALLY A THIRD PARTY THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PROVIDE, UH, MORE ATTAINABLE HOUSING OVER THE LONG TERM AS THAT RESIDENT MOM OR DAD OR WHOEVER IS LOOKING AT THAT MONTHLY END OF THE MONTH PAYCHECK AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA STRETCH IT.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO, AS PART OF THIS STRATEGY, MAKE SURE WE'RE REALLY COHESIVE WITH OUR UTILITY
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FOLKS MM-HMM.JENNY WILL WALK US THROUGH THE NEXT TWO.
IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, SO PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING.
SO THIRD STRATEGY IS TO FACILITATE THE IMPROVEMENT OF OLDER HOUSING STOCK CONDITION WHILE ALSO PRESERVING AFFORDABILITY.
SO WE KNOW, AS WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT, UM, THERE'S INTEREST IN HAVING MORE DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES HERE.
YOU CAN'T PROVIDE HOUSING FOR EVERYBODY IF THE HOUSING TYPES ARE NOT DIVERSE.
THAT INCLUDES IMPROVING, UM, OLDER HOUSING STOCK, UH, AND NOT JUST BUILDING EVERYTHING NEW.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY ON, UH, THE SURVEYS AND SOME IN THE POP-UPS.
SO HERE ARE A COUPLE STATS THAT SORT OF ILLUSTRATE, UM, THIS NEED PRETTY, UH, STARKLY.
SO AGAIN, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE IF YOU'VE BEEN, IF YOU'VE BEEN ON EDMOND SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT, UM, WE FOUND IN GENERAL THAT FOLKS UNDER 34 YEARS OF AGE TENDED TO STRUGGLE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT HOUSING ISSUES MORE THAN FOLKS THAT WERE OLDER.
AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT THEY REPORTED SEEING, UH, HOMES AND APARTMENTS IN NEED OF SIGNIFICANT REPAIR AT MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGES THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE I, WELL YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE CAUSE IT'S KIND OF SMALL, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 34% OF THE GENERAL SURVEY RESPONDENTS SAID THAT THEY SAW THAT.
WHEREAS WE HAVE 63% AND 49% OF FOLKS UNDER 25 AND FOLKS 25 TO 34.
AND THEN GOING BACK TO THOSE HOUSING PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD FOLKS RANK AND AND DISCUSS WITH US, THE NUMBER TWO MOST VOTED FOR HOUSING PRIORITY AFTER HAVING MORE HOUSING DIVERSITY WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE OPTIONS FOR FINANCING HOME IMPROVEMENT.
SO THIS AFFECTS BOTH RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS.
WE WERE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH ALLUDING TO THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENCY CONVERSATION BEFORE.
AND THIS ACTUALLY WAS MORE PREFERRED FOR PEOPLE UNDER 34 AND AFRICAN AFRICAN AMERICANS AND ASIANS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE NOTE ON THERE.
SO THE TACTICS WE HAVE UNDER THIS STRATEGY ARE NUMBER ONE, UH, EXPAND EDMUND BUILDS TO INCLUDE EXPLORATION OF PROTECTIONS FOR EXISTING RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS TARGETED FOR REVITALIZATION.
AND THE REASON WE FOCUSED ON EDMOND BUILDS HERE IS BECAUSE EDMOND BUILDS HAS A LOT OF THE GOALS SORT OF IN PLACE, IT MAKES SENSE AS AN UMBRELLA TO SORT OF HOUSE THIS UNDERNEATH.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE IMPORTANT OPERATIVE TERM HERE IS, UM, UH, IS, UH, UH, PREVENTION.
BECAUSE ONCE WE KNOW THAT ONCE, UM, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS START CHANGING, IF, UH, THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING THERE THAT CAN NO LONGER AFFORD IT, ONCE THAT CHANGE IS HAPPENING, IT'S OFTEN TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNLESS THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE, ARE IN PLACE AHEAD OF TIME.
NUMBER TWO IS TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING HOMEOWNER RENOVATIONS AND WEATHERIZATION.
THE CITY'S ALREADY DOING A LOT OF THIS, BUT WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE CONTINUE SUPPORTING IT AND POSSIBLY EXPAND THOSE PROGRAMS. NUMBER THREE IS TO ADOPT A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO CODE ENFORCEMENT OF PROBLEM PROPERTIES.
SO WE UNDERSTAND FROM CONVERSATIONS NOW THAT, UM, THAT, UH, A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING DONE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT IS VERY REACTIVE.
SOMETIMES THAT'S TIED TO RESOURCES, LIMITED RESOURCES, LIMITED FUNDS, LIMITED STAFF.
UM, BUT IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO ADOPT A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH, THAT CAN OFTEN DO A LOT TO IMPROVE HOUSING STOCK.
UM, NUMBER FOUR IS TO CREATE AND FUND NEW HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT CAN ENCOURAGE REINVESTMENT IN OLDER RENTAL PROPERTIES WHILE MAINTAINING ATTAINABLE RENTS.
UH, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN A NUMBER OF THEIR, OF OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF NOAA NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
MINNEAPOLIS HAS A REALLY INTERESTING PROGRAM WHERE THEY'VE, UM, SET UP SOME FUNDING AND SOME SUPPORTS TO HELP DEVELOPERS, UH, PURCHASE AND SORT OF PROTECT HOUSING OUT THERE IN THE ECOSYSTEM THAT IS NATURALLY AFFORDABLE.
IT'S NOT SUBSIDIZED, IT'S, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE OLDER HOUSING STOCK THAT, UM, JUST NATURALLY ON THE MARKET COMMANDS, LOWER RENTS.
SO SOME PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THAT.
AND THEN NUMBER FIVE WOULD BE EXPLORE CREATING A TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM.
AND THAT WOULD BE TO FUNNEL RESOURCES, UH, INTO PRESERVING, UM, HOUSING STOCK.
AND THEN THE FOURTH STRATEGY IS TO SUPPORT EMPLOYERS ECONOMY AND WORKERS THROUGH WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO WE'VE ALLUDED TO THIS A LITTLE BIT AS WELL, THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EMPLOYERS WE TALKED, WE TALKED TO THROUGH THE STUDY, WHO CITED, UM, THE HOUSING CONDITIONS IN EDMOND BEING A REAL CHALLENGE FOR THEM.
SO HERE'S ANOTHER QUOTE FROM A SURVEY RESPONDENT.
WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF, UH, SORT OF FRONTLINE WORKERS WHO STRUGGLED WITH HOUSING, UM, IN THE SURVEY.
AND IT SAYS, WE SHOULD PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSES FOR TEACHERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.
MANY OF US HAS TO WORK, MANY OF US HAVE TO WORK TWO JOBS IN ORDER TO LIVE IN THE TOWN IN WHICH WE WORK.
AND THIS WAS A HOMEOWNER AGED 55 TO 64 AND AN EDMOND RESIDENT.
UM, SO AGAIN, YEAH, DEFINITELY HEARD FROM A LOT OF FIRST RESPONDERS TEACHERS, UM, RESTAURANT WORKERS.
UM, IT'S THE, THE FOLKS THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO STRUGGLE WITH HOUSING.
UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THEM HAD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT, UM, THEIR, THEIR EXPERIENCES HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST SOME, SOME DATA THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS IS THE FAIR MARKET RENT FOR A SAFE AND DECENT QUALITY TWO BEDROOM HOME IN EDMOND.
AND TO AFFORD THAT AND NOT THE HOUSING COST BURDEN, MEANING A HOUSEHOLD WOULD NOT BE SPENDING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING, UM, THAT HOUSEHOLD WOULD NEED TO EARN A MINIMUM OF $19 AND 50 CENTS PER HOUR.
SO JUST AN IMPORTANT STAT TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THIS, THESE STRATEGIES, AND WE HAVE FOUR TACTICS UNDER THIS.
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AND UPDATE ANNUALLY EMPLOYMENT CONCENTRATIONS AND HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN A 15 MINUTE DRIVE TO SHOW MISMATCH BETWEEN WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT THE GROWING WORKFORCE NEEDS.AND THIS GETS AT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WHERE, UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYERS WHO, UM, WHERE THEIR WORKERS ARE DRIVING VERY LONG DISTANCES, AND THAT'S FEASIBLE FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT NOT FOR EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT, UM, WHERE MAYBE THEIR SALARIES ARE LOWER AND IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT GAS, THE GAS COSTS OR IF THEY'RE RELYING ON TRANSIT.
WE, WE HEARD FROM SOME HEALTHCARE EMPLOYERS IN PARTICULAR THAT SAID THAT, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVING LIMITED OPTIONS TO TRANSIT LIMITS, THE STA THE SHIFTS THAT THEIR STAFF CAN TAKE.
SO NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UM, FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT ONE.
NUMBER TWO IS TO IDENTIFY KEY DEVELOPMENT SITES WITHIN THAT EMPLOYMENT SHED FOR WORKFORCE ATTAINABLE HOUSING SO THAT WE CAN BUILD ON THAT DATA AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME HOUSING IN TO SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE.
UH, NUMBER THREE WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THE CREATION AND FUNDING OF A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OF MODERATELY PRICED FOR SALE AND RENTAL HOUSING.
AND NUMBER FOUR, AS ANDY ALLUDED TO BEFORE, IS TO ADVOCATE FOR STATE AND FEDERAL WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAMS. SO THAT IS ALL ABOUT LEVERAGING ALL THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
WE KNOW THAT JUST LIKE THE CITY CAN'T DO ALL OF THIS ALONE, EDMOND CAN'T DO ALL OF THIS ALONE.
THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES OUT THERE.
WE NEED THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE, THE, UM, STATE AND THE, THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, UH, TO MAKE THESE, THESE STRATEGIES, UH, POSSIBLE.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO IMPLEMENTATION NOW AND I'M GONNA PASS IT BACK TO ANDY FOR THAT.
SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? UH, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, POTENTIAL ACTIONS, PROGRAMS, TACTICS, UM, AND OTHER INFORMATION.
AND WE'VE NEVER RECOMMEND TO TRY TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.
UH, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE AND IT'S, IT'S NOT PRACTICAL.
SO WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO START WITH TODAY OR IN THE SHORT TERM, WHAT COULD, WHAT COULD, YOU KNOW, WAIT A FEW YEARS AS YOU BUILD SOME, SOME MOMENTUM AND SUCCESS AND WHAT'S KINDA A LONGER TERM THING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT PAN OUT OVER TIME, BUT, BUT IF THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES, IT WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD IDEA.
AND SO WE DIVIDED THIS INTO NEW EFFORTS.
UM, SOME, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NEW FOR THE COMMUNITY, SOMETHING THAT WOULD EXPAND, UM, BUILDING UPON WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY AND THEN JUST SOME, SOME GOOD THINGS TO KEEP DOING.
AND SO THIS REALLY SUMMARIZES, UM, KIND OF THOSE SHORT TERM EFFORTS OF FORMING A HOUSING TASK FORCE, ESTABLISHING A HOUSING FUND, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO SUPPORT THIS WORK, UM, IN THE, IN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, ESTABLISHING A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING OF HOUSING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITIONS.
UH, WE, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXISTING DATA, WHICH IS FROM THE COUNTY ASSESSOR DOESN'T HAVE PROPERTY RATINGS.
SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, UM, IN AN EMPIRICAL WAY WHERE THERE'S MORE HOUSING CONDITION CHALLENGES THAN OTHERS.
AND WHEN YOU CREATE THAT BASELINE, YOU CAN START TO TARGET SOME OF THE PROGRAMS TO GET MAXIMAL IMPACT, BUT ALSO MEASURE, UM, THE IMPACT OVER TIME, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING DOLLARS TOWARD, UM, A GOAL LIKE THIS KIND OF EXPANDING EFFORTS, UM, IS USING FUNDING TOOLS TO HELP PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SOMETHING YOU DO IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
UM, TODAY, UM, STREAMING, STREAMLINING THE INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S UNDERWAY BY ADDING SOME STAFF, UM, AND, AND OTHER ELEMENTS UPDATING THE ZONING CODE TO MAKE ALL OF THIS, UM, FIT TOGETHER IN A MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY.
THEN KIND OF MIDTERM AND LONG TERM IS, IS THINKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING DEVELOPMENT SITES MORE PROACTIVELY.
LIKE THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, EXPANDING PROGRAMS OR CREATING PROGRAMS TO REINVEST IN OLDER RENTAL PROPERTIES.
UM, SO THAT THAT THEIR CONDITION AND IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY IS IMPROVED.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVES? UH, YES TO OKAY.
AND OR LIKE A FUND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THE CITY IS ABLE OR OR WILLING TO PUT FUNDS INTO THAT HAS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY MEMBER, COMMUNITY OR ORGANIZATIONS AND EMPLOYERS COULD CONTRIBUTE TO AS WELL.
SO IT COULD BE, IT COULD HAVE YOU FOUND THAT EMPLOYERS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
AND YOU SAID MAYBE FOR MONEY TO DRIVE.
WELL, THEY HAVE TO, IF THEY'RE ON CALL, WE HAVE TO BE THERE IN 30 MINUTES OR LESS.
SO MANY, MANY PEOPLE I WORK WITH DON'T LIVE IN EDMOND OR THAT I DID WORK WITH.
AND I THINK SOME OF THE HOSPITALS HAVE EVEN EXTENDED THAT DIS THAT TIME FOR THEM TO, UH, RESPOND TO AN ON-CALL SITUATION SIMPLY BECAUSE 30 MINUTES WAS, NO, NOT,
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NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO GET HERE.SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REINVESTING, I WONDER IF SOME OF THE, UM, EMPLOYERS LIKE HOSPITALS AND STUFF, HAVE THEY IN THE PAST, HAVE YOU FOUND THAT THEY WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS YES.
AND IT'S NOT JUST NURSES, BUT IT, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR NURSES AS WELL.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, MONEY OWNERS FOR THAT FAMILY.
SO YOU SAID YES, YOU VISITED WITH LIKE BIGGER EMPLOYERS BECAUSE I KNOW SMALLER EMPLOYERS, GOSH, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE, THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY CAN JUST TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD HAVE THE MONEY TO INVEST IT, AS WONDERFUL AS IT SOUNDS MM-HMM.
UM, THE ANSWER IS YES, AND IT DEPENDS, AND I MEAN THAT IN LIKE, UM, SOME STATES HAVE A WORK HAVE EXPANDED IN RECENT YEARS, A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP LEVERAGE, UM, LOCAL AND EVEN EMPLOYER FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE STATE LEVEL.
UM, BUT WE HAVE SEEN EMPLOYERS PARTICIPATE, UM, EITHER KIND OF IN LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY PROGRAMS WHERE THERE'S ALREADY AN ENTITY DOING REASONABLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'VE SEEN THEM, UM, DO HOME OWNERSHIP OR DOWN PAYMENT MATCHES AFTER LIKE A YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT.
UM, THEY A LOT ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO KIND OF LEVERAGE A REASONABLE PORTION OF THEIR PROFIT TO SUPPORT, I MEAN, IT SUPPORTS THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS FANTASTIC.
LIKE, LIKE YOU HAVE TO FIND THE LAND THOUGH,
I JUST WONDERED IF OTHER ENTITIES OTHER THAN JUST THE CITY, IF THE EMPLOYERS REALLY DID CONTRIBUTE OR IF THERE WAS STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING AVAILABLE.
AND, AND THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE, TO HAVE, UM, A MORE SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT AS, YOU KNOW, WITH LIKE THE CITY'S CITY.
I THINK YOU NEED ALL OF THEM TO, UM, PARTICIPATE MM-HMM.
EVEN THOUGH THEY NEED THEIR EMPLOYERS MM-HMM.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK ABOUT WHERE DOES THE CITY GO FROM HERE.
AND WE TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE THREE OR FOUR THINGS TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, TODAY? AND THOSE PRIORITY RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATIONS ARE UPDATING THE ZONING CODE, WHICH IS UNDERWAY, UH, FORMING THE HOUSING TASK FORCE, ESTABLISHING A HOUSING FUND AND ESTABLISHING THAT BASE LINE HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITION, UM, FRAMEWORK.
AND WE INCLUDED ON HERE SOME OF THE, THE IMPACTS OR RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
SOME OF THESE HAVE A LOT OF STUDIES ABOUT KIND OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OR ROI.
SOME ARE MORE, UM, QUALITATIVE SUCH AS UP UPDATING THE ZONING CODE CLEARLY HELPS CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHERE HOUSING TARPS ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED BY.
SO IT REMOVES UNCERTAINTY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, THE HOUSING TASK FORCE IS ABOUT HAVING COMMUNITY PARTNERS HELP THE CITY NAVIGATE THE IMPLEMENTATION AND, UH, OF THESE PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO HELPING, YOU KNOW, TELL THE STORY AND GET MORE SUPPORT, WHETHER IT IS DONATIONS FOR OR CONTRIBUTIONS TO A FUND OR, OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
OR HELPING WITH, WITH MARKETING OR, YOU KNOW, JUST TELLING THE, THE STORY OF WHAT'S NEEDED HERE.
UM, ESTABLISHING A HOUSING FUND.
UH, WE'VE WORKED IN SEVERAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND, A HOUSING TRUST FUND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE STATE STATUTES ALLOW, WHERE, UH, A LOT OF TIMES THE CITY SEEDS THE FUND, IT COULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT.
UM, BUT SETS IT UP IN A WAY WITH A COMMUNITY PARTNER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, PHILANTHROPY CAN DONATE, EMPLOYERS CAN DONATE, UM, OTHERS CAN DONATE TO MAXIMALLY, LEVERAGE THE CITY'S FUNDS.
AND A LOT OF THESE, WHEN THEY'RE DONE WELL FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF PUBLIC MONEY, UM, FOR A CITY, LIKE IF YOU PUT A DOLLAR AND SEVEN ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ARE LEVERAGED ON AVERAGE FROM OTHER SOURCES, WHETHER IT'S THE STATE, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
AND THEN ESTABLISHING THE BASELINE OF, OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITIONS AS JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS IN TERMS OF REINVESTING IN THE EXISTING STOCK.
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UM, AND WE START WITH THAT, THAT SAME SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE AND CAN MEASURE PROGRESS OVER TIME.UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO NOTE, YOU ALL HAVE A WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ON THE EFFICACY OR, OR THE BENEFITS OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND, AND THEY REALLY DO HELP A LOT WITH UTILITY COSTS, BUT ALSO PEOPLE MISS WORK LESS BECAUSE THEIR HOME IS HEALTHIER, SO THEY EARN MORE AND IT JUST, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL EXPENDITURE ON A PER UNIT BASIS, BUT HAS LASTING IMPACTS OVER TIME.
AND SO, UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO REVISIT ANY OF THIS, BUT WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE ON WEDNESDAY? WE'RE SING A VIRTUAL PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE THAT SHARES SOME OF THESE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW ON A DRAFT REPORT AND, AND FINALIZING THE REPORT THAT ACCOMPANIES THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
AND WE'LL BE BACK IN A MONTH, UM, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS THIS GOES FOR, FOR APPROVAL.
AND, UM, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, BUT YOU WERE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED ALSO SOMETHING ABOUT KEEPING THE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM GOING TO DISREPAIR.
WELL, HOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE INCENTIVES.
UM, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS IF THEY COULD BE FIXED, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THEIR HOMES.
HOWEVER, WHAT IF THESE PEOPLE CAN'T, DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR THE INPUT? I MEAN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UM, HAVING A FUND TO COMPLETELY GO THROUGH AND BRANO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T JUST PICK FOUR HOUSES OUT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT WAS SOME OF YOUR PLANS FOR THAT AND IDEAS? MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING IT.
UM, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND GREAT POINTS.
AND WHAT WE SEE IS, IS KIND OF OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MODEL IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOESN'T TRY TO GO IN AND AND FIX EVERYTHING.
WELL, THEY CAN'T BECAUSE IT CAN'T, AND IT, IT'S JUST NOT, UM, GOOD POLICY.
IT'S TOO, THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE WORK WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, A NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP.
AND THEN, UM, THROUGH, UH, I GUESS ADMIN BUILDS, THERE MIGHT BE A FOCUS, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AND WHATNOT IN A, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE'S LIKE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS OVER TIME.
AND THEN THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT IF YOU QUALIFY FOR, YOU CAN GET SOME ASSISTANCE.
SOMETIMES THERE, THERE'S A MATCH REQUIRED SOMETIMES NOT TO HELP WITH SOME, SOME OF THE REPAIRS, BUT WE, WHAT WE SEE OVER TIME WHEN THERE'S LIKE SOME ASSISTANCE OR FRAMEWORK PROVIDED UPFRONT BY THE CITY THAT WHEN THERE'S A CONCERTED EFFORT, AND IT MAY BE FIVE YEARS, IT MAY BE SEVEN YEARS, YOU START TO SEE, UM, OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IMPROVE THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING AND IT CERTAINLY ISN'T, UM, THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THERE'S A ROLE TO PLAY IN KIND OF CATALYZING THAT WELL AND TO LET 'EM KNOW THAT THINGS ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, ARE YOU, ARE YOU KIND OF TALKING ABOUT, HOW WAS IT, WAS IT HUD THAT WENT IN AND STARTED PUTTING, UM, NEW SIDING AND THINGS ON, UM, OLDER, FRAIL, UM, FAILING HOMES? WAS IT HUD? UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED REHABILITATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, WHICH IS HUD UHHUH.
UM, AND WE HAVE EXPLORED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, UM, EXTENDING THAT INTO THE RENTAL POLICY.
SO THERE'S THAT AND, OKAY, SO BASICALLY GOING IN AND MAYBE HELPING TO CLEAN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOW 'EM THIS IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FIX UP YOUR HOME.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME FOLKS HAVE NO EXTRA MONEY TO PUT INTO IT, BUT, OKAY.
I WAS CURIOUS, SO EARLY ON IN THE PRESENTATION YOU SAID THERE'S A NEED FOR 800 HOMES, UM, IN THE EDMOND COMMUNITY VERSUS OUR 571, YOU KNOW, PERMITS OR, OR APPROVALS.
SO WHERE DOES THAT 800 COME FROM? SO WHEN WE KIND OF BUILT THE DEMAND MODEL, WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, GROWTH PATTERNS.
SO WE LOOKED AT EDMONDS, HISTORIC GROWTH THE LAST 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS.
ACTUALLY LOOKED, YOU KNOW, BACK TO WHEN IT
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BEGAN.UM, WE ALSO, UM, CONSIDERED HOW THE REGION'S GROWING, HOW OKLAHOMA COUNTY'S GROWING AND HOW THE STATE'S GROWING CLICKER'S KIND OF LOUD.
UM, AND SO WE, WE TRY TO BALANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE PROJECTING OVER 10 OR 20 YEARS, WHICH, UM, LIKE STATISTICALLY YOU CAN PROJECT WELL OVER FIVE YEARS AND THEN IT GETS MORE CHALLENGING.
BUT WE LOOKED AT THOSE HISTORIC TRENDS, UM, AND, AND SOME PROJECTIONS THAT EXIST TODAY FROM, FROM DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND KIND OF SETTLED ON, UH, YOU KNOW, A A A KIND OF CONSERVATIVE GROWTH SCENARIO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER, SLOWER PACED THAN YOU'VE BEEN GROWING IN AN AGGRESSIVE GROWTH SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF AT THE HIGHER END, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST DECADES.
AND SO WE, WE REALLY HAD A RANGE.
AND REALLY WHEN WE DO DEMAND, WE LOOK AT A RANGE OF GROWTH, BUT WE, FOR CONVERSATION AND WE, WE KIND OF PICK, UM, BASED ON WHAT, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN A COMMUNITY, WHAT SEEMS REASONABLE.
SO, UM, THIS IS KIND OF A MODERATE GROWTH SCENARIO BASED ON HISTORIC TRENDS.
AND WHAT WE KNOW TODAY THAT IS, IS CONCEIVABLE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT, UM, JOB GROWTH, UH, AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT LEAD TO GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I, I FORGOT THE PERCENTAGE ANNUAL GROWTH, UM, BUT WE WILL, THAT WILL BE DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT TOO.
SO IT'S KIND OF A STATISTICAL LOOK.
AND I'M LOOKING AT, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING, I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN EDMOND AND CAN'T LIVE IN EDMOND MM-HMM.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING HOW THOSE NUMBERS, THOSE GROWTH NUMBERS BASED ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE, WHAT THE PRODUCTS WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
CUZ I'M WONDERING, ANYWAY, WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? KIND OF.
BUT I GUESS THE IDEA IS THAT THERE IS MORE DEMAND FOR HOUSING IN EDMOND THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PRODUCED.
NOT JUST TYPES, BUT TOTAL NUMBER.
AND, AND THAT'S A A GOOD POINT TOO CAUSE EDMUND HAS LOW VACANCY.
SO IN SOME COMMUNITIES, A DECENT AMOUNT OF THIS 8,900, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD EXPECT A THOUSAND OR 1500 TO BE FILLED BY REINVESTING IN, IN SOME OF THE VACANCIES.
MOST OF THE DEMAND WILL BE MET BY NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S STILL IMPORTANT TO KIND OF NOT LET SOME OF THE OLDER HOUSING STOCK CONTINUE TO, TO HAVE CHALLENGES AND DECLINE.
AND THAT HIGHER SU OR LOWER SUPPLY THAN DEMAND ALSO BOOSTS THE PRICES.
SO IN ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS, IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE CLEARLY THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING NOW THAT, OR WE'RE SLIGHTLY DOING, OR JUST VARIETY.
WE, WE TRIED TO, TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT YOU ARE, UM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER PHRASE, DOING THINGS
YOU CAN SAY IT
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE DIVIDED THIS INTO NEW EFFORTS AND THEN EXPANDING SOME THINGS YOU'RE DOING NOW AND THEN KEEPING, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO DO THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA START FROM TO TRY TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B? AND, AND, AND THEN EVEN HOW THAT WILL BE EVALUATED THAT WE ARE DOING THAT MM-HMM.
SO IN THE FINAL REPORT, THERE WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, WHEN YOU SAY MARKETING, I MEAN MORE, I, I GUESS WE'RE ALL KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, WE CAN ALL AGREE, BUT WILL THE REPORT GIVE US SOME MORE CONCRETE IDEAS TO IMPLEMENT EXAMPLES? UM, I, I MEAN, I'M THINKING OF MARKETING FOR AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? THE ANSWER IS YES, WE HAVE, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S BEGUN BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING POSTED ON THE CITY OF EDMOND'S SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE.
I TELL MYSELF NOT TO READ THE COMMENTS AND THEN I DO.
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UM, YEAH, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF CASE STUDIES THAT WE'VE BEEN COMPILING THAT WILL BE FEATURED IN THE REPORT.UM, SO YES, SO, SO THAT'S ON THIS MARKETING IS, IS A PARTICULAR INTEREST, IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, HOW, HOW TO MARKET, HOW TO SORT OF BUILD SUPPORT FOR, WELL, AND I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED IN THERE, I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF MIS MISPERCEPTIONS ABOUT HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE EFFECTS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DISPEL THOSE MYTHS? MAYBE A NEED FOR EDUCATION WITH YOUR MARKETING AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, LOVE TO KNOW HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE MAYBE DONE THAT.
UM, YEAH, WHAT'S NOT IN, IN THE SLIDES IS WE HAVE A PRETTY DETAILED IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX THAT, THAT HAS THE KIND OF STRATEGY AND TACTIC.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE TARGET MARKET IN TERMS OF HOUSING, PRODUCT AND AFFORDABILITY LEVEL.
IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, WHO'S GOING TO, WHO SHOULD LEAD THE EFFORT, BE IT THE CITY TEAM, UM, AND WHAT PARTNERS ARE NEEDED TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.
UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, KNOW, WHICH HOUSING GOALS IT WILL ADDRESS, BUT ALSO WHICH AREA OF THE CITY IT'S MOST APPLICABLE.
BECAUSE DIFFERENT AREAS HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
UM, BUT ALSO IN, IN THE STRATEGY WRITEUP, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CASE STUDY EXAMPLES WHERE CITIES HAVE DONE IMPLEMENTED SIMILAR PROGRAMS AND, AND WE, WE TRY TO HIGHLIGHT THE BEST PRACTICES.
UM, A LOT OF THEM WE'VE INTERVIEWED, WE'VE TALKED TO, TO, TO, TO ASK HOW IT WENT AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED AND IN IMPLEMENTING THOSE PROGRAMS, WHAT WENT WELL AND WHAT DID NOT.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED, WE'VE WORKED, UM, IN, IN TULSA AND WICHITA ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND.
AND ONE OF THE, THE KEY THINGS IS, IS TO START SOMEWHERE AND, AND TRY SOME, SOME PROGRAMS AND POLICIES THAT ADDRESS THE NEED, BUT BE READY TO ADJUST, UM, AND LEARN AS YOU GO.
SO THE POLICY CAN CHANGE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PLACES WE TALK TO WHO'VE DONE MAJOR HOUSING ELEMENTS, UM, OR MAJOR HOUSING INITIATIVES, UH, REALLY HAD TO ADJUST.
THEY, THEY, THEY RAISED SOME FUNDS AND TRIED TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE, BUT FOUND THAT SOMETHING ELSE ELSE WAS NEEDED OR AN ADJUSTMENT WAS NEEDED.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY, YOU DO NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND, AND MAYBE DO SOME PILOT PROJECTS, BUT REALLY HAVE THAT EVALUATION AND FLEXIBILITY MINDSET LIKE, THIS ISN'T WORKING, LET'S SHIFT IT IN THIS, THIS WAY.
AND THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, NEEDS AND KIND OF, AND I DO FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC HAS SORT OF A REACTION TO THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO I DO REALLY LIKE ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
I MEAN, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.
UM, AND I THINK MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE STOP.
I THINK WE GET THIS VISCERAL REACTION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN THIS WHOLE LITANY OF, OF THINGS EVILS THAT WILL ARISE BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE, I MEAN, LIKE SPECIFIC WORDS, SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE.
UM, I'M HAVE TO GUESS, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COMMUNITY TO BE DEALING WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND PERCEPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE EAGER AND SOME INFORMATION MAYBE ON FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS.
CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT? UM, AND CHRISTIE, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT RESPECT THE KIND OF CHALLENGES THEY'RE FACING OR, WELL, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE PRICE POINTS THE CHALLENGE, BUT RIGHT.
WHAT CAN YOU INCORPORATE IN YOUR STUDY? THE ASSISTANCE, OR WHERE DO WE STAND ON THAT? HOW DO WE HELP OR WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP? MM-HMM.
I THINK THAT QUOTE BARRY, THAT YOU GUYS HIGHLIGHTED IN THERE, WHERE IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO THEY KEEP TRYING TO PURCHASE HOUSES IN THAT 1 41 50 RANGE, AND THEY KEEP BEING OUTBID BY INVESTORS WHO ARE PURCHASING EXACTLY.
AND SO ARE THERE SOME SPECIFIC STRATEGIES TO HELP THOSE FOLKS WHO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, YOUNG FAMILIES OR SINGLE PEOPLE OR EMPTY NESTERS OR WHATEVER? UM, THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND YOU HAVE TO HELP THEM, BUT THERE'S ALSO A FINE LINE BETWEEN SAYING WHEN SOMEBODY BIDS ON A HOUSE, NO, YOU CAN'T BID ON THIS HOUSE.
WELL, SO IT'S A, I MEAN, HOW CAN, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S CAPITAL SYSTEM AND PRE-MARKET, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T THINK THAT'S HEALTHY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT'S A, AN EFFECTIVE POLICY TO IMPLEMENT FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS? I MEAN, LOOK, BRING US SOMETHING BACK ON THAT.
WOULD YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TODAY, JUST, WELL,
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I MEAN, ONE OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS IS, UM, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT OFFER A LOWER DOWN PAYMENT, UM, AND THEN CREDIT WORTHINESS, UM, AND THEN HAVING A SUPPLY TO WATCH THE THIRD ONE, SUPPLY SUPPLY.
UM, AND SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT EXPANDING THAT SUITE OF HOME OWNERSHIP SUPPORTS.
UM, THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL BANKS THAT, THAT WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH, WITH FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS.
AND THAT COULD BE PART OF THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN OF WHICH BANKS DO AND WHAT PROGRAMS THEY OFFER.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN A VERY, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ADJECTIVE FOR WHERE WE ARE IN THE HOUSING MARKET TODAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE REALLY SPOILED BY VERY LOW INTEREST RATES FOR OVER A DECADE.
AND THEY INCREASE VERY RAPIDLY.
AND THE MARKET IS ADJUSTING IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY.
UM, BUT KIND OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND NEEDS NEED TO SHIFT ALONG WITH KIND OF THE PRODUCTION OF MORE HOUSING.
UM, BUT YES, WE'LL AS PART OF, UH, 1.6, AND WE WILL BE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE KIND OF BEST PRACTICES.
IN THE REPORT AND TO REMIND THE VETERANS ABOUT GETTING ABOUT VA LOANS.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO FIND.
UM, SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF HOUSING, DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING NEW.
UH, FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, IT'S 4 0 7 ON A MONDAY.
THERE'S ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND RESIDENTS AND THERE'S ABOUT 50 OF US HERE, CUZ WE'RE NOT NORMAL, RIGHT? WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PLUGGED IN, DIALED IN, AND WE UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THAT WE'VE ALL HEARD THAT WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS FOR, UM, ATTAINABLE HOUSING, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF HOUSING TO SUPPORT ALL THESE.
AND SO ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE MOST HUNGRY FOR ARE THOSE IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS AND IDEAS AND STRATEGY WHERE IT SAYS, HERE'S ADMIN A HUNDRED THOUSAND BREW KIND OF BEDROOM COMMUNITY OF A METROPOLITAN.
HERE'S THIS CITY NOW AT ABOUT A HUNDRED, 150,000.
AND THEN KIND OF, IT'S NEVER APPLES TO APPLES TO BE ABLE TO BE, BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT TO US BECOMES VERY HELPFUL FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT TO FLUSH OUT, OKAY, WHY OR WHO DID IT NOT, OR DID IT WORK IN THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT, UH, SIMILAR TO OURS? AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO ULTIMATELY AS A BODY, I FEEL LIKE WE CAN MAKE ANY POLICY CHANGE THAT WE WANT.
THE CHALLENGE IS PUBLIC PERCEPTION AND HOW THAT MEETS ADOPTION.
AND SO WHAT I LIKE TO DO WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOUSING IN EDMOND, I JUST HAVE A VERY SIMPLE CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
I SAY, OKAY, UM, HOW MANY OF YOU, UH, WANT US TO BE A COMMUNITY IN OKLAHOMA THAT'S GOT OUR POLICE, FIRE, NURSING ASSISTANTS, SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS, WAITRESSES, OTHER PEOPLE THAT ULTIMATELY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THAT ALSO CALL THIS COMMUNITY HOME? CUZ MY SISTER, FOR EXAMPLE, LIVES OUT IN MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA.
HER HUSBAND WORKS FOR GOOGLE, THEY LIVE THERE, AND THE POLICE, FIRE, NURSING, HOSPICE, UH, BUS DRIVERS AND OTHERS, UH, WILL SERVE THEM.
BUT THE EXPECTATION IS NO, THERE ISN'T A PLACE FOR YOU HERE.
YOU NEED TO TAKE A BUS 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
EVERYONE I TALK TO, UM, SAYS, OH, WE WANNA BE A COMMUNITY THAT WHERE PEOPLE SERVE US AND THEY'RE, AND THEY, AND THEY'RE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, DID YOU KNOW OUR AVERAGE PRICE IS 406,000? SORRY, HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
THE NEXT THING I'LL SAY IS, YOUR KIDS THAT YOU LOVE OR, UH, MAY LOVE AGAIN IN A FEW YEARS, UH, ONCE THEY COME BACK TO YOU, UM, YOU'VE SENT 'EM OFF TO OU, OSU, OR SOME OTHER GREAT SCHOOL.
UH, WHERE DO DO YOU WANT THEM TO LIVE? YOU KNOW, NOTHING, NOTHING WRONG WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES, BUT DO YOU WANT 'EM ANYWHERE NEAR IN, IN EDMUND OR DO YOU WANT 'EM YUKON OR MIDWEST CITY OR SOME OTHER PLACES? THEN I SAY, OKAY, PAUS AND YOUR KIDS, LET'S TALK GRANDKIDS.
CAUSE THEN THAT'S USUALLY WHERE THE, DO YOU WANT THOSE KIDS AND YOUR GRANDKIDS LIVING IN SOMEWHERE AROUND YOU IN EDMOND? BECAUSE IF YOU DO NOW, THEN EITHER THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH, OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH $40,000 IN DOWN PAYMENT AND ALL THAT TO GET THEIR JUICES FALLING.
RIGHT? SO, I LOVE FACTS, BUT IF FACTS WERE FACTS, I WOULD NEVER HAVE TO DEBATE MY KIDS THAT MICHAEL JORDAN'S THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER IN THE WORLD INSTEAD OF THESE, SOME OF THESE NEW GUYS COMING UP.
CAUSE I COULD JUST WIN ON THE FACTS.
THERE'S A MOTION AND PERCEPTION BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS PEOPLE EMOTIONALLY SAY, YES, I'M FOR THE DEAL.
COME LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE, BUT LIVE WITH US.
OH, WELL, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE AFFORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY ANY TYPE OF FEDERAL SENSE, BUT IS ATTAINABLE IN SOME REGARD BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE OR DENSITY.
AND THEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, NIMBY NOT MY BACKYARD.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME SORT OF REACTION TO IT.
SO MY, UH, REQUEST WOULD BE ONE AS FAR AS THE STUDY WOULD BE TO BEST
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PARALLEL THE TWO OF SISTER CITIES IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS OF WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T THAT WE CAN ACT ON.NUMBER TWO IS IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO TACKLE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, AND I I THINK WE DO BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE VALUES, UH, THEN WE NEED TO SAY, OKAY, WHO'S ON THAT TEAM? AND I ULTIMATELY THINK THAT WE NEED A FACES OF EDMOND HOUSING CAMPAIGN, UH, CAMPAIGN THAT DIRECTLY LINKS AND SAYS, I BRING YOUR KIDS SAFELY TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
I'M A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER AND I WANNA LIVE IN EDMOND.
I TAKE CARE OF YOUR GRANDMA AS A HOSPICE NURSE AND I WANNA LIVE IN EDMOND.
I GIVE YOU GREAT SERVICE AT YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN ON FRIDAYS.
MICRO TARGETED WITH ALL OUR REALTOR FRIENDS, DEVELOPER FRIENDS, COMMUNITY FRIENDS, SCHOOL FRIENDS THAT WANNA RECRUIT PEOPLE, EVERYBODY, AND JUST RUN THAT CAMPAIGN AND GET THAT OUT THERE.
I THINK WITHOUT THERE WE'LL LAND WITH A REPORT THAT TELLS US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW, BUT WE'RE NO CLOSER TOWARDS THAT IMPLEMENTATION.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS ON IT, IS WHAT ARE THE LEVERS SPECIFICALLY HOW DO WE PAIR UP AGAINST OUR SISTER CITIES, UH, SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN HOPEFULLY SEE SOME SUCCESS OR LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
AND THEN HOW DO WE PULL TOGETHER A GROUP, UH, THAT CERTAINLY ISN'T CITY LED BECAUSE WE'RE THE PEOPLE ISSUING PERMITS, BUT IS COMMUNITY ORIENTATED THAT HAS ALL OUR PARTNERS THAT HAVE A PUZZLE TO PLAY THAT ARE WILLING TO BE A PART OF OUR SUPPORT OF FACES OF EDMOND CAMPAIGN.
I THINK IF WE DO THAT, THERE'S SOME MEASURE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THAT WE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL IN A TARGETED AREA.
AND THEN PEOPLE WILL REALIZE CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY ISN'T FALLING AND THAT THERE'S SOME ADAPTATION, AS I LIKE TO SAY, IS THAT EVERYBODY WAS FOR HOUSING THAT THEY GOT, THERE WAS PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WEREN'T FOR THE HOUSING THAT YOU GOT CUZ YOU WEREN'T THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
SO WE NEED TO KIND OF RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE CONVERSATION NOW.
SO WE'VE GOT THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE AT FIVE 30 ON WEDNESDAY.
SO WHAT ARE THE GOALS OF THAT AND KIND OF WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE THAT.
AND I WANNA MENTION BEFORE THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
CHRISTIE ALMOST KICKED ME WHEN I DIDN'T MENTION THAT
UM, BUT, UM, THE INTENT OF THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE IS TO REALLY LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE STUDY FOUND, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY IT WAS DONE AND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WHAT COMES NEXT, AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE.
SO THAT'S, AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, SO IT'S HOSTED IN ZOOM.
UH, WE, WE HAVE A, A PRESENTATION SIMILAR TO THIS WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE BACKGROUND DATA AND THEN, UM, IT'S SET UP TO DO Q AND A.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT IN ONE OR TWO CYCLES, LIKE DEPENDING ON WHEN PEOPLE COME.
BUT IT'S REALLY TO KIND OF EDUCATE ABOUT WHAT WE FOUND AND THEN KIND OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND WHY.
HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE? WELL, WE HAVE 90 MINUTES SCHEDULED.
THAT'S WHY WE MIGHT DO TWO PRESENTATIONS DURING IT, DEPENDING ON WHEN PEOPLE COME.
IT'S REALLY WE'RE THERE TO KIND OF INFORM AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I DON'T WANNA MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS, UH, UH, PEOPLE WHO'VE HELPED STRUCTURED OR BUILD EDMONTON WHAT IT IS TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE VIRTUAL, BUT I WOULD OFFER ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE A QUESTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ASKED AT THIS TIME, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS CAPTIVE ENVIRONMENT.
DARRELL, MY NAME IS DAVID HOBE.
I'M AN ARCHITECT AND, UM, A LONGTIME RESIDENT.
I, I ARRIVED ABOUT 15 MINUTES LATE, SO THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO I'M GONNA PREFACE MY QUESTION WITH THAT.
THAT IS, I THINK EDNA HAS A UNIQUE SITUATION IN TERMS OF ITS LOWEST PRICED HOUSING IS CLOSEST TO THE UNIVERSITY IN DOWNTOWN.
AND MOST OF THAT, A LARGE PORTION OF THAT GETS UTILIZED BY THE UNIVERSITY GIVEN AS ADJUNCT PROFESSORS, STUDENTS, INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THAT REFLECTS IN, INTO TRUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE I THINK STUDENTS ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE MOST OF 'EM WHO CAN AFFORD TO GO TO UNIVERSITY CAN HAVE EITHER GOT LOANS OR HAVE WHEREWITHAL AND ENDOWMENT ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN AFFORD HOUSING WHEN THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE UNIVERSITY HOUSING.
AND SO, LIKE THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR BEDROOM APARTMENTS ALL AROUND HERE, BUT I THINK THAT THEY MOSTLY
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ARE THE ONES CLOSEST TO THE UNIVERSITY IN DOWNTOWN ARE UTILIZED BY STUDENTS.AND I THINK SOMEHOW THAT NEEDS TO BE REFLECTED IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, UH, IN EDMOND BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EDMOND GETS CONSUMED BY STUDENTS.
THAT'S MY, IT'S NOT A QUESTION, IT'S MY OBSERVATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR OBSERVATIONS? YES, SIR.
ONE OF THE EXAMPLES GAVE WAS THOSE TYPES OF PRODUCTS WHEN THEY'RE BUILT UNDER THAT FORMAT, IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION THAT THEY HAVE TO BE OCCUPIED OR THAT THEY CANNOT BE SOLD TO A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST? BECAUSE IF THERE ISN'T, THEN YOU'RE JUST USING THAT MONEY TO BUY THOSE HOMES THAT ULTIMATELY WILL BE BOUGHT BY INVESTORS, NOT BY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER, WHICH IS WHAT'S OCCURRING OKLAHOMA COUNTY AND HAS BEEN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
SO I JUST WONDERED IF THOSE KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS WERE IN PLACE.
CAUSE YOU, THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE REAL ESTATE INVESTOR, PARTICULARLY STATE ESTATE OWN THE HOUSE, THERE'S NO JACK LAND, THEN THEY'RE GONNA SELL IT.
THEN THE NEXT GUY'S GONNA JACK AROUND SOMEWHERE.
AND, AND ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS WE'VE SEEN AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, THERE ARE, UM, PROTECTIONS AND POLICIES PUT IN PLACE THAT PREVENT THAT FOR AT LEAST A PERIOD.
IT MIGHT BE 15 YEARS, IT MIGHT BE LONGER.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK, UH, BEING DONE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, ON THE FOR SALE SIDE AND WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MOVE OUT OF KIND OF ONE OF THOSE HOMES.
THAT'S PART OF ONE OF THE PROGRAMS, LIKE HOW TO KEEP THE HOME AFFORDABLE ONCE IT'S SOLD.
UM, AND ALMOST ALL CASES I'M AWARE OF, THERE'S, THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT FROM BEING AN INVESTOR OWNED, UH, SITUATION.
WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF, UH, ESTABLISHING A, AN EDMOND HOUSING AUTHORITY SIMILAR TO THE WAY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE OF OKLAHOMA CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE NORMAN HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT USE, UH, CITY OR FEDERAL FUNDS TO, UH, SUBSIDIZE THE, THE RENT FOR A TARGETED POPULATION, SAY LOW INCOME PEOPLE BELOW CERTAIN THRESHOLD AND, UH, SUBSIDIZED THOSE, THOSE, UH, PEOPLE'S RENT SO WE COULD HAVE MORE OF THOSE, UM, WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WE WANTED TO TARGET AND, UM, PLACE THEM IMMEDIATELY.
UH, BECAUSE AN EXPENDITURE OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN CITY FUNDS COULD, UH, SUBSIDIZE 250 PERSONS RENT EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND GET US BACK TO AFFORDABILITY REALLY QUICKLY.
WE DID TALK ABOUT, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE UNDER SERENDIPITOUS THAT THE SLIDE IS UP 1.3, UM, TALKING ABOUT REINSTATING EDMOND'S URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE AND ASSEMBLE LAND TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FOR A LOT OF THOSE REASONS THAT YOU, THAT YOU MENTIONED.
AND, UM, CHRISTIE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY, IF THAT'S OF INTEREST.
CUZ I KNOW THERE, THERE USED TO BE ONE AND THEY'RE NO LONGER IS.
SO, SO YES, SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
WILL YOUR REPORT, UM, LIST WHO THE PEER CITIES THAT YOU ARE COMPARING US TO, WILL IT LIST THOSE ACTUAL CITIES? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I GUESS THIS IS GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE DETAILS, BUT IN THE BEGINNING YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
UM, SO THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WHO, WHO WAS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE? UM, WE HAVE, WE'LL HAVE THE LIST IN THE REPORT.
THEN I'LL WAIT AND GET THE REPORT.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE VERY EAGER TO GET ALL THE DETAILS TO ANSWER THAT CAN ANSWER.
THERE WERE LARGE EMPLOY EMPLOYERS.
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UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS, UH, ATTENDING REALTORS.AND I WANNA SAY THAT WE WERE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH EDMOND BOARD OF REALTORS ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO WE HAD SEVERAL OF THEM.
WE HAD PEOPLE THAT ARE DEVELOPERS, UH, LENDERS, UM, EVERY FACET WE HAD, UM, THE OWNER OF THE FRANCHISE OF MCDONALD'S, UM, ATTENDED AND, AND EVERYTHING UP AS WELL AS THE CHAMBER AND E E D WERE ON THE BOARD AS OR ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE AS WELL.
AND THEN THE FOCUS GROUPS, THEY PULLED FROM THAT.
UM, DEV, DEVELOPER, DEVELOPERS, REALTORS, LOCAL EMPLOYERS, YOUNG PROFESSIONAL RENTERS, UM, ET CETERA.
AND TO GIVE THE FEEDBACK IN, IN MORE FOCUS GROUPS.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT WE CAN POINT TO, UM, BY OTHER CITIES OR ENTITIES THAT HAVE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING? AND, AND HOW DID, WAS PUBLIC OPINION ENGAGED? IS THAT A PART OF THE SCOPE OR IS IT JUST THE RECOMMENDATION? WELL, ONE THING I FAILED TO MENTION, OR WE FAILED TO MENTION WAS THAT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY BE IN AUGUST, THERE IS A PUBLIC, THERE WAS A KIND OF, I JUST BLANKED.
THERE'S A MEDIA CAMPAIGN WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OF THE THE CHAMBER.
AND SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH SOME YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.
AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, SOME OF THE OLDER ADULTS WHO'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, JUST TO TELL THEIR STORIES TO START THAT.
UM, I THINK PART OF THE REASON, UM, FOR, UH, HOUSING TASK FORCE AND BRINGING SOME OF THE PARTNERS WHO'VE BEEN ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND ARE ON, UH, YOUR OTHER COMMITTEE, SO MANY COMMITTEES, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IS TO KIND OF KEEP THAT GOING WHEN WE'RE OUR CONTRACT'S DONE AND BUILD THOSE STORIES FURTHER.
UM, SO THAT IS, IS COMING AS PART OF THIS.
I MEAN, I'M GLAD WE'VE HAD ALL THE COMMUNICATION, UM, ALL OF THE OUTREACH, ALL OF THE INVOLVEMENT WITH LEADERS AND, AND PEOPLE WHO, WHO RAISED THEIR HAND THAT WANTED TO BE INVOLVED, AS YOU KNOW.
YOU WANTING TO, SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? MM-HMM.
UH, WE CAN CALL IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE A BOILER PLATE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW WHAT BOILER LOOKS LIKE, A BOIL BOILER PLATE.
THE PRESENTATION LOOKS LIKE A BOILER PLATE TO SUPPORT THAT BIAS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT ASKS THE QUESTION OR THE STUDY ASKS, WHY DOES HOUSING AND ADMIN COST MORE? AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S BECAUSE OF POPULOUS ONCE WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE IN EDMOND.
UH, SOMETIME I LISTENED TO A PRESENTATION BY MAYOR DAVIS THAT SAID WHY HE CHOSE EDMOND.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS STUDY MAJOR OR CAUGHT THAT SPIRIT OF WHY WE LIVE IN EDMOND.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I KIND OF CALL THAT A BOILERPLATE FROM OTHER CITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY IGNORED THAT SPIRIT OF EDMOND IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION WHEN THEY SAID THE REFERENDUM OPPOSING THE 800 PLUS MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT, AND THEY JUST KIND OF BLEW THAT OFF.
SO I THINK THE STUDY IS A LITTLE INCOMPLETE AND THAT IT MISSED THE SPIRIT OF EDMOND.
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HI.HEY, SHERIFF JORDAN WITH THE EDMOND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I, I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF THOSE STATEMENTS.
UM, OUR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS GROUP WAS VERY VOCAL IN THIS PROCESS AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE, UM, WHAT OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS CAN DO.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL MULTIFAMILY.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TRY AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
UM, I WOULD ALSO, AND I THINK THAT KRISTEN MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE QUANTIFIABLE NUMBERS ON LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED THIS AND LIKE HOW MUCH WE NEED TO BUILD AND JUST TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T OVERBUILD THE MARKET FOR IT.
I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, MR. RIGBY WAS GONE A WEEK AGO CUZ HE WAS, ANYTIME I SEE SOMEBODY HAULING U-HAUL, I JUST DROP A TEAR OF COMPASSION.
BUT I KNOW HE WENT OUT TO BRING HIS, ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS OUT TO START HER NEW CAREER AND, AND, UM, UM, I WAS IN THAT CITY FOR A WHILE.
AND SO AS HE, YOU KNOW, AS A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL, I WAS INTERN HOUSING WITH ABOUT FIVE OR SIX OF US IN AN APARTMENT TRYING TO DO A DC INTERNSHIP.
AND THEN, UH, WAS OUT WITH ABOUT FIVE OR SIX GUYS AS WE WERE QUOTE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS MAKING NOTHING.
AND WE WERE IN A HOUSE ALTOGETHER AND I GOT MARRIED AND WAS IN, I PROMISE YOU, UM, WE COULD PL IN, IN THE WASHINGTON DC METRO.
I COULD PLUG IN, UM, MY, UH, VACUUM CLEANER INTO ONE PLUG AND VACUUM THE ENTIRE HOUSE WITHOUT HAVING TO UNPLUG IT.
AND THEN MOVE TO, UH, JENKS, OKLAHOMA WHERE WE HAD OUR FIRST STARTER HOME AND THEN, UH, MOVED TO EDMOND, OKLAHOMA.
UH, WE WERE EXCITED TO LIVE IN TIMBER RIDGE AND THEN LOOKED EVERYWHERE AND EDMOND, UH, FOR AS OUR FAMILY GREW AND JUST WENT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER.
UH, AND NOW I'M NEVER GONNA MOVE AGAIN.
BUT THAT'S JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A STRONG MILITARY COMMUNITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BIAS TOWARDS MULTI-HOUSING.
IT'S A BIAS TOWARDS MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THEIR LIFE.
UH, FROM THAT TIME WHERE THEY'RE AT UCO WITH MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE, UH, ROOMMATES MAKING A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS STICK TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT THROUGH COLLEGE TO WHEN THEY'RE THEIR NEWLY WEED.
AND THEY'RE LITERALLY LIKE, WE'RE HERE AND THE BEDROOMS IN THE SAME AREA AS EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WHEN WE START GROWING AND HAVING KIDS, HOUSING'S IMPORTANT, IT'S BEEN PART OF OUR DNA.
I THINK IF THE, IF THE, IF, IF ADMITS ANYTHING, IT AM ADMITS THAT OUR CITY CHARTER, UH, THINKS THAT LAND IS SO IMPORTANT THAT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS YOU HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE THE CITY COUNSELOR.
UH, A RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, AT LEAST 25, A RESIDENT OF THE CITY QUALIFIED VOTER AND A FREE HOLDER IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, STILL PART OF OUR CHARTER LAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT AND WE'VE ASSIGNED DIFFERENT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO THAT.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUSIVE TO A WIDE VARIETY OF PEOPLE.
UM, ONE DAY I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ACTUALLY STRUCK, UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT IN 1925 AS FAR AS A FREE LANDHOLDER.
IT MEANT SOMEONE THAT LOOKED PROBABLY JUST LIKE ME, WHITE AND MALE AND NOBODY ELSE.
AND SO WE'VE HAD AN EVOLVING CONVERSATION IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WITH A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING.
AND I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THIS NEW CHAPTER, UH, TO FIGURE OUT THAT THOSE WHO SERVE US CAN ALSO BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND, UH, WE CAN MEET THOSE DIFFERENT STEPS OF HOUSING.
I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY I HAD, AND LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING ON MY STORY.
MARRIED THREE KIDS, GS FIVE AT TINKER AIR FORCE BASE.
YOU CANNOT LIVE OFF OF $13,000 LIKE I WAS MAKING BACK THEN OR WHATEVER THEY MAKE NOW TO HAVE THREE KIDS AND BE IN EDMOND.
BUT WHEN I MOVED HERE 37 YEARS AGO, THEY HAD HOUSING THAT I WAS ABLE TO LIVE OFF OF MY SALARY WITH MY WIFE AND OUR THREE KIDS HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR.
AND I JUST WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY.
THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE JUST TO SERVE, JUST TO LIVE, JUST TO BE ABLE TO ONE, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEN? NONE.
I I WANT THE CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE THAT WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE THIS AFTERNOON, YOU HAVE OTHER CONVERSATIONS, STILL FEED IT BACK TO STAFF SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE HAVING IT A RICH, UH, CONVERSATION ON THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS NEXT CHAPTER OF, OF, OF EDMOND.
HAVING SAID THAT, THIS WORKSHOP'S OVER, THANK YOU.