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GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'D

[1. Call to Order.]

LIKE TO CALL OUR SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER TODAY.

WE'RE

[2. Presentation and Discussion of the Final Report from the Urban Land Institute Advisory Services Panel.]

GONNA BE TALKING, WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE ADVISORY SERVICE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA RECEIVE AN UPDATE AND DISCUSSION FROM THE EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO I'M GONNA DO IT FROM BACK HERE.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

UM, I'M RANDY ENTZ WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE, UH, REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE, UH, URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, THE ADVISORY SERVICE PANEL THAT WAS HERE IN FEBRUARY.

UM, GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND REALLY CONCENTRATE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO, JUST AS A LITTLE BACKUP, UH, THE PANEL VISIT WAS IN FEBRUARY, LATE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THERE WERE EIGHT PANEL MEMBERS HERE, AND THEY WERE ALL EXPERTS IN DIFFERENT FIELDS.

SO THERE WAS A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT, UH, HAD EXPERTISE IN REAL ESTATE OR DISTRICT BUILDING.

AND ALONG WITH THEM WERE THREE U L I PROJECT STAFF MEMBERS.

UH, WHILE THEY WERE HERE, THEY CONDUCTED OVER A HUNDRED STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, AND THAT REALLY FORMED THE BASIS OF THEIR REPORT AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THOSE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE TIME.

UH, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THINK THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED SPONSOR THAT VISIT.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE EDMOND AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, RADER BUILDING COMPANY, SWITCHGRASS CAPITAL, AND THEN THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA.

AND THEN WE, AS I SAID, RECEIVED THAT REPORT IN JULY.

AND TODAY IS A SUMMARY OF ALL THOSE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OR GET YOU IN THE RIGHT AREA, THE NORTH EDGE OF THE STUDY AREA WAS THATCHER, SOUTH EDGE WAS SIXTH STREET, UH, AND THEN IT WENT FROM FRETS OVER TO THE EAST SIDE OF CAMPUS.

OKAY.

UH, THE REPORT INCLUDES SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS TALK, TALKING ABOUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE UNIQUE, UH, OPPORTUNITY THAT DOWNTOWN AFFORDS, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THE WAY IT SUPPORTS OR COULD SUPPORT HIGHER DENSITY AND MIXED USE INCOME HOUSING.

UH, THE REPORT ESTIMATED THAT 2,500 HOUSING UNITS COULD GO IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN.

UH, FOR A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ROUGHLY 700 THAT ARE IN SOME VARIOUS STAGE FROM REVIEW TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, TO DATE.

SO, UM, MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS I FOUND THIS INTERESTING MIRRORED WHAT WE LEARNED IN THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

SO WE HAD TWO INDEPENDENT SOURCES KIND OF COMING TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS WE GO THROUGH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF YOU SEE A GREEN ARROW, THAT MEANS WE'RE WORKING ON THAT IN SOME FORM OR CAPACITY.

SO, UH, AND I WOULD ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THAT THIS IS A, A LONG RANGE PLAN.

UH, BY NO MEANS ARE, ARE WE EXPECTED TO GET THIS DONE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

UH, IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE A 10 TO 15 YEAR PLAN FOR SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS. BUT RELATED TO HOUSING ATTAINABILITY, SOME OF THE QUICK FL FIXES THEY SUGGESTED WERE THE PROMOTION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, OR ADUS AND DUPLEXES IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

AND THEN CREATING AN OVERLAY IN THE AREA AROUND THAT WOULD, UH, ALSO DO THAT, AS WELL AS PROMOTING TRIPLEXES OR QUADS.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GREEN ARROWS THERE, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

THERE IS A, AN ORDINANCE THAT IS DRAFTED.

IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFFED.

UH, IT'S WILL BE IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ITS FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, LATE SEPTEMBER, HOPEFULLY, AND THEN IN FRONT OF YOU AFTER THAT.

SO, UH, IT ALSO RECOMMENDED PRE-APPROVED PLAN SETS, UH, FOR HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND THEN LONGER TERM, FOCUSING ON THE CORE AREA FOR INFILL ON THE SMALLER LOTS, UH, FACILITATING, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED INCOME RENTAL HOUSING, UH, AND THEN PROVIDING AN EXPEDITED PATH FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF SMALLER STARTER HOMES.

UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

UH, AS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, WHEN I SAY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, I THINK THAT'S THE CITY'S WAY WE REVIEW AND PROCESS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

UH, IT, TO SUM IT UP, IT REALLY RECOMMENDED THAT OUR PROCEDURES, PROCESSES, AND GUIDELINES SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE.

UH, I, I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WOULD ECHO THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

UH, AND REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS STRIVE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO GET GOOD PROJECTS THAT MEET OUR GOALS, UH, FROM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FROM IDEA TO CONSTRUCTION.

SO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAD FOR THAT, UH, WERE TO IMPLEMENT THE STUDY AREA OVERLAY ZONING CODE.

UH, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE FROM ME, BUT, UH, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A ZONING CODE UPDATE.

A PIECE OF THAT IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THAT'S THE, THE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH,

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AS WELL AS POTENTIAL PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN.

NOW, THAT PROJECT IS NOT, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BE DONE UNTIL AUGUST OF 2024.

HOWEVER, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS, WHICH IS RECE NICHOLS.

AND AS THEY GET STUFF DONE, IF WE CAN PUT IT TOGETHER IN PACKAGES AND TAKE IT THROUGH AS IT GOES, WE WILL DO THAT.

SO, UH, THEY ALSO SUGGESTED FACILITATING, UH, EXPEDITED ENTITLEMENTS, UH, APPROVALS AND, UM, ENSURING THAT THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WORK WELL TOGETHER.

AND PARTICULARLY, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING, ENGINEERING, AND PERMITTING.

I BELIEVE THEY MEAN BUILDING, UH, AND FIRE CODE SERVICES ARE ALIGNED.

UH, WE WERE ALSO STARTING TO WORK WITH FREEZE NICHOLS TO REVIEW OUR PROCESSES AND TO RECEIVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE COULD STREAMLINE THOSE TO DO EXACTLY THAT, TO, TO FACILITATE A QUICKER PROCESS, UH, THAT, THAT REVIEW.

HOPEFULLY WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.

ONCE THEY START.

THEN THE REPORT HAD WHAT IT, THEY CALLED SETTING THE CANVAS FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

UH, AND THEY SPOKE ABOUT, UH, BEING, TAKING THE LEAD ON THE WAY WE PROVIDE SOME OF OUR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, IN PARTICULAR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

UH, WE HAVE DONE THAT, UH, DOWNTOWN PROBABLY IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT.

WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN RETENTION POND THAT WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

UH, WE'VE EXPANDED ACCESS TO THAT FOR PROPERTIES WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

AND THEN WE ADDED THAT IN FOR STEVENSON PARK.

AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS A MORE EFFICIENT AND BETTER USE OF PROPERTIES IN THE AREAS AS THEY DEVELOP.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE COMPLETED A STUDY ON THE FAR WEST SIDE AROUND THE CHITWOOD PARK AREA.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THAT AREA TO FACILITATE THE SAME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

UH, IT RECOMMENDED AN OMBUDSMAN TO KIND OF BE THAT, UH, LIAISON BETWEEN, UH, THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SIDE OF DEVELOPMENT.

UH, WE ARE CALLING THAT POSITION, THE DOWNTOWN TRANSFERS TRANSFORMATION MANAGER.

IT'S GONNA BE HOUSED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UH, THAT JOB DESCRIPTION IS DONE, AND I BELIEVE IT IS OPEN AND, AND TAKING APPLICATIONS AS WE SPEAK.

UM, AND THEN IT SUGGESTED OPTIMIZING, UH, OUR FINANCE TOOLS.

AND, UH, THE THREE THEY LISTED THERE ARE TIFF, WHICH WE ARE IN THE THIRD YEAR OF A 20 YEAR TIFF.

UH, FORGET HOW MANY PROJECTS WE'VE ACTUALLY USED IT ON, I BELIEVE, FOUR MAYBE TOTAL, UM, UH, TAX CREDITS OR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER.

SO THE, THOSE KIND OF TAX CREDITS AREN'T NECESSARILY READILY AVAILABLE.

BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, SO NORTH OF SECOND AND EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS IN THIS AREA.

YOU CAN, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TAX CREDITS VIA THAT.

AND THEN IT SUGGESTED A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UH, TO PROVIDE A, A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

UH, I BELIEVE DOWNTOWN'S PROBABLY RIPE FOR AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT WHEN THEY'RE READY FOR IT.

UH, WE'VE DONE SOME LEGWORK FOR 'EM TO KIND OF SET UP WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE WHEN AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO.

UH, SO THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF INVESTMENTS TO RE REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR GOING EAST WEST.

AND THE MAIN THING THEY TALKED ABOUT IS, UH, THE, THE CITY HALL REDEVELOPMENT AND THE WAY IT SETS THE TONE FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT TO FOLLOW THEREAFTER.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX IS IN, UH, UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE SITE PLAN IS MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT IS ESTIMATED, UH, TO BE COMPLETE, THE BUILDING ITSELF IN THE SPRING OF 2025.

UH, THERE'S ALSO A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT A PARKING PHILOSOPHY THAT SUPPORTS A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN.

UH, JUST NOTING THAT IN 2020, WE DID DO A, A DOWNTOWN PARKING PLAN.

UH, IT DOES OFFER WHEN WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE HOW WE TREAT PARKING DIFFERENTLY, HOW WE MIGHT START TO MANAGE IT.

WE ARE GONNA UPDATE THE COUNTS, UH, BOTH PARKING SPACES AND CARS IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS TO SEE IF WE'RE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT THRESHOLD.

SEE, ONCE AGAIN, ON HOUSING, UH, THE U L I RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BOTH ECHO SIMILAR NEEDS FOR A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES AND AT DIFFERENT PRI PRICE POINTS.

UH, AND IT RECOMMENDS THAT AS THE CITY OFFERS FINANCIAL, UH, HELP OR FINANCIAL, UH, ASSISTANCE TO DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT BECOME A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

THAT PROVIDING THAT KIND OF HOUSING BE, UH, INCLUDED IN WITH THAT OR AS, AND REALLY AS IF WE DO, UH, AN R F P OR A, AS WE DISPOSE OF THE VACATED LAND, WHEN CITY HALL OPENS, THAT, THAT IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

AS FAR AS CONNECTIVITY SOLUTIONS, UH, AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS DOWNTOWN.

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UH, THERE'S SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THAT.

IN FACT, THERE'S A WHOLE TRANSPORTATION SECTION.

THIS IS, IS KIND OF A BUILDUP TO IT, BUT, UH, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS, UH, MAKING A D A IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE ARPA MONEY THAT YOU ALL WERE NICEST ENOUGH TO SET ASIDE FOR THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL GRANTS THAT ARE BEING SUBMITTED.

AND THEN WE SHOULD EITHER THROUGH ACOG GRANTS, WHICH ARE TAP AND OTHER KIND OF, UH, SURFACE TRANSPORTATION GRANTS, OR THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, WHICH IS A NEW FEDERAL PROGRAM.

UH, WE SHOULD FIND OUT THIS WINTER IF WE'VE QUALIFIED FOR ANY OF THOSE GRANTS.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE SEVERAL TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY'RE ALL REALLY RELATED TO INCREASING THE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE SAFELY AND, AND AROUND THE DISTRICT.

THAT'S, THEY'RE ALL BASED ON, UH, WHEN THEY, THEY LED OFF WITH, AND I EMPHASIZED WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE DOWNTOWN IS CONNECTED TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE ONGOING HERE.

AND IN PARTICULAR, MAKING SURE IT CONNECTS ALL THE WAY TO LAKE ARCADIA.

UH, THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR BIKE AND TRAILS PLAN HAS BEEN FOR SOME TIME.

UH, WE'RE GETTING MUCH CLOSER TO THAT.

UH, A CRUCIAL LINK IN THAT IS THE CREEK BEND TRAIL.

UH, THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT TRAIL, WHICH IS THE CONNECTION, UH, BETWEEN COLTRANE AND I 35, UH, BETWEEN SECOND AND 15TH, UH, WILL BE LET IN NOVEMBER BY ODOT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

SO, UH, CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN.

YOU KNOW, THE HESS BIKE LANES ARE NOW COMPLETE.

UH, STREET CAPE STREET SCAPE SECTIONS ARE BEING DESIGNED BY KIMLEY HORN.

AND, UH, A MAIN STREET CROSSING UP BOULEVARD IS BEING ADDED AFTER THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX IS DONE.

SO WE'RE STARTING TO CHIP AWAY AT MAKING THOSE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.

ONE INTERESTING THING THEY DID HAVE WAS, UH, INVESTIGATE A, A PIKE AND A BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER SECOND STREET FROM U C O O TO F PARK.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HISTORIC TALK ABOUT A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER SECOND STREET SOMEWHERE.

THIS IS A NEW LOCATION FOR ME.

I HADN'T HEARD THIS ONE RECOMMENDED, BUT WE HAVEN'T EVEN, AGAIN, BEGUN TO LOOK AT FEASIBILITY OF THAT YET.

BUT, UH, ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO UPGRADE ALLEYS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, UH, TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT PAVEMENT AND PROPER DRAINAGE.

AND THEN IT RECOMMENDS COORDINATING IT WITH UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WE ARE DOING.

UH, THE NORTH SA NORTH SOUTH ALLEYS, UH, ON EITHER SIDE OF BROADWAY HAVE PRETTY MUCH JUST FINISHED UP THAT PROCESS.

AND AS WE UPDATE OUR, OUR UTILITIES WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE ALLEYS AS WE GO.

UM, TRANSIT.

SO THIS WAS AN INTERESTING ONE.

UH, SO R T A RECOMMENDED RETAINING THE TRANSIT HUB AT FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE AND THEN LOCATING THE FUTURE COMMUTER RAIL THERE.

UH, THAT HADN'T REALLY BEEN A PART OF OUR PLANS, BUT WE DID TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT IT.

UH, WE WORKED WITH OUR, THE R T A CONSULTANTS, THE REGIONAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY CONSULTANTS TO RUN THAT IDEA BY THEM.

AND THEY CAME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION, UH, OF, OF MORE OPTIMAL LOCATION BEING SOUTH OF THERE.

UH, AND THIS IS FOR TWO MAJOR REASONS.

ONE, UH, AS TRAINS STOP, IF THEY WERE TO STOP AT THAT FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE, WE WOULD BE BLOCKING FIRST STREET 12 TO 24 TIMES A DAY WITH PASSENGER RAIL TRAINS OR THE COMMUTER RAIL TRAINS.

UH, LESS THAN IDEAL 'CAUSE WE ALREADY DO THAT WITH FREIGHT TRAINS.

UH, AND THEN THE OTHER WAS THAT, UH, A COMMUTER RAIL STATION OF THAT SCALE GENERALLY, UH, STIRS UP A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT.

A LOT OF TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

WELL, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AVAILABLE LAND AROUND OUR FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE WOULD'VE TO START TEARING DOWN SOME OF OUR HISTORIC FABRIC IN ORDER TO, TO SEE THAT KIND OF TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, NOT OUR PREFERENCE.

SO, UH, SO THIS IS ONE WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT HARD AND WE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA PUT ON THE THE DO NOT DO LIST.

OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, A BIG ONE WAS ABOUT THE RIGHT SIZING OF STREETS.

UM, AND THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT BROADWAY IN PARTICULAR AND ABOUT IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

UH, IN THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN, THEY WERE RECOMMENDING TWO LANES NORTH OF THEIR, NORTH OF CAMPBELL, THREE LANES, AND THEN SOUTH.

TAKING A HARD LOOK, BROADWAY, SOUTH OF SECOND STREET COULD BE ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH CITY BOUNDARY.

UH, THERE IS A STREET SCAPE PROJECT ON GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH KIMLEY HORN.

UH, IT WILL INCLUDE, UH, PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT BROADWAY AND, AND WHAT IT SHOULD BE OR COULD BE.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S ALSO, UH, A PROJECT IN THE WORKS WITH ODOT, UH, TO JOINTLY LOOK AT BROADWAY SOUTH OF SECOND, ALL THE WAY ON WHAT IT COULD BECOME, UH, HOW IT FUNCTIONS NOW, HOW IT COULD FUNCTION BETTER.

AND THEN IN TURN, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE LAND USES ALONG IT TO IMPROVE THAT.

SO, U L I WAS FOCUSED ON HOW TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION FROM, UH,

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STATE HIGHWAY TO DOWNTOWN STREET A LOT BETTER.

UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE HARDER LOOK AT THAT, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE, THE PRIME REASONS FOR DOING THAT STUDY IS TO TRY TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION A LITTLE SMOOTHER SO IT'S NOT SIX LANES, UH, SLAMMING INTO OUR DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

SO, AND THEN NORTH BOULEVARD, THEY RECOMMEND, UH, A NEW SIGNAL AT MAINE.

AND THAT BECOMING A MAIN CONNECTION BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND U C O.

UH, JUST SO HAPPENS WE HAVE A SIGNAL PLAN THERE AS A, AS A PART OR FOLLOWING THE CITY HALL PROJECT.

SO AS THAT PARKING GARAGE COMES ONLINE, UH, A SIGNAL WILL BE ESTABLISHED THERE TO HELP PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA.

THEN IT LOOKED AT, UH, THEY LOOKED AT, UH, CREATING A BUNCH OF, UH, DISTRICTS IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN.

UH, THAT WAS THEIR SUGGESTION THERE.

UH, THE DOWNTOWN CORE, THE STEVENSON PARK, UH, GATEWAY DISTRICT, A DOWNTOWN WEST DISTRICT AND A, A MAIN STREET DISTRICT.

THIS, THIS IS ONE OF LIKE MANY DIFFERENT TIMES WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT DISTRICTS SUGGESTED.

OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN INCLUDES THAT AS WELL.

UH, SO WE AS STAFF SAT DOWN AND PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER AND KIND OF COME UP WITH THE MOST REASONABLE SOLUTION TO THOSE, UH, WHAT WE THINK ARE THE MOST REASONABLE SOLUTIONS TO THOSE.

AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA AND CONFIRM THAT, AND CONFIRM THE NAMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND THEN INCLUDE THAT IN THE WAY FINDING PROJECT SO THAT AS THOSE WAY FINDING SIGNS ARE PUT IN, THEY CAN IDENTIFY THOSE DISTRICTS AND GET PEOPLE THERE.

THAT'S COMING UP.

THAT IS COMING UP SOON.

AND ANOTHER INTERESTING RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION THEY MADE WAS, UM, THE, THE WAY THEY LAID OUT CITY HALL AND INCLUDED A MAIN STREET PARK AND, UH, REALLY KIND OF CHANGED THE WHOLE KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS WE HAD GOING ON.

UH, AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CITY HALL PROCESS.

UH, ORIGINALLY WE HAD A GREEN SPACE KIND OF ENVISIONED ON LITTLER.

UH, I THINK WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A LOT MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, WHERE A GREEN SPACE SHOULD BE IN THE NORTH SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

UH, THIS IS ONE POTENTIAL SOLUTION.

THERE'S PROBABLY A HUNDRED OTHERS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND WE WILL, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST JOBS OF THE DOWNTOWN TRANSFORMATION MANAGER WILL BE TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND FIND THAT RIGHT LOCATION.

UH, THEY ALSO SUGGESTED RUNNING THE CITY HALL MUNICIPAL COURT UP AND DOWN LITTLER.

WE WORKED WITH OUR ARCHITECT AT THE TIME, WENT OVER OUR SPACING NEEDS, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR BUDGET.

AND IT DID NOT ACCOMMODATE THAT.

SO WE ARE BACK TO THEIR LAYOUT, YOU KNOW, TODAY OF IT BEING DOWN MAIN STREET.

UH, THEY ALSO, AS I SAID, SUGGESTED THE FARMER'S MARKET AND TRANSIT CENTER BE MOVED OVER TO MAIN STREET.

UH, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA ON PAPER.

IT MIGHT NOT BE.

WE WILL FIND OUT IN THE FUTURE.

SO, AND WITH THAT, THAT IS A SUMMARY OF ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THAT'S A QUICK REVIEW OF 80 PAGES.

GO AHEAD.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, ONE WAS ON THE ADUS MM-HMM.

.

SO WE, I THINK NEXT WEEK FROM SWAB, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE A REPORT ABOUT OUR STORM WATER CAPACITY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL THAT INTO, UH, ACCOUNT FOR HOW MUCH CAPACITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOR ADUS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR ANY OTHER, HOW MUCH INCREASED DENSITY WE CAN'T ACTUALLY HAVE.

RIGHT.

SO, SO THE OVERLAY THAT IS PROPOSED NOW DOESN'T NECESSARILY, UH, AFFECT THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT ANYBODY HAS TODAY AS FAR AS THE LOT COVERAGE THEY COULD DO.

UH, OUR CODE TODAY WOULD ALLOW SOMEBODY TO COVER 100% OF THEIR LOT WITH PAVEMENT IF THEY WISHED, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW SOMEBODY TO PUT A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON A URBAN LOT IF THEY WISHED.

SO OUR THOUGHT IS WITH THIS, WITH ALLOWING THE ADU OF A CERTAIN SIZE, THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT INCREASING THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE MORE DRAMATICALLY THAN WOULD BE ALLOWED TODAY.

NOW, I KNOW A STUDY HAS BEEN DONE THAT WILL SHOW FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE MADE AT IF FULL DEVELOPMENT WERE TO HAPPEN.

I THINK WE'RE 15 YEARS AT LEAST FROM ANY KIND OF LIKE CRITICAL POINT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING OF THAT NATURE.

BUT AS I TELL KEITH BEATTY, EVERY TIME HE BRINGS IT UP TO ME, WE HAVEN'T HAD STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA FOR 80 YEARS.

THE BILLS DUE NOW.

I MEAN, WE IDEALLY WOULD'VE PUT IT IN 80 YEARS AGO.

OKAY.

AND ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE RIGHT SIZING OF STREETS.

UH, SO THE STUDY LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF JUST, I'M ASSUMING, JUST DOWN OF DOWNTOWN, BUT HOW ABOUT THE IMPACT ONCE WE GET OUTTA THE DOWNTOWN

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AREA OF OUR NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST? IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF DIETS BEING CREATED DOWN HERE? YEAH, I WILL, I WILL SAY THE STUDY LOOKED AT THE IMPACT ON THE WALKABILITY OF DOWNTOWN.

IT DID NOT TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK OF THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN AND AROUND THE AREA.

THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME FOR THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A PART OF ANY STUDY FROM HERE ON HERE ON OUT.

MM-HMM.

.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

COUNSEL.

ANY OTHER ON THE PRIORITIZED INVESTMENTS TO REINFORCE IMPORTANCE OF MAIN STREET CORE UNDER CONNECTIVITY SOLUTIONS? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT BROADWAY ENHANCEMENTS TO DISCOURAGE USES OR VISUAL CUES THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH NEW STANDARDS MEANT STOP ME WHEN I GET THERE.

THAT PAGE, THE SECOND BULLET UNDER THE SECOND GREEN ARROW UNDER HOUSING.

I THINK IT WAS A, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT.

YES.

I THINK WHAT THEY MEANT THERE IS THAT THERE ARE VISUAL CUES THAT CAN DO, THEY WORK EITHER WAY.

SO IF YOU BUILD A WHITE STREET AND YOU SET THE TREES WAY BACK, THE VISUAL CUE IS TO GO FASTER.

SO THERE'S THE, THE POSITIVE SPIN ON THAT WOULD BE DEVELOP IT SO THAT THE VISUAL CUES SLOW YOU DOWN AS YOU ENTER THIS AREA.

NO, I REMEMBER HIM SAYING THAT WHEN THEY, OKAY.

YEAH.

THEY JUST SAID IT THE OTHER WAY.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS JUST TO EMPHASIZE, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE U L I STUDY, SO THOSE OF FOLKS LISTENING, COMING IN LATER, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE PICTURE WITH THE MUNICIPAL COURT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

BUT THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF U L I.

CORRECT.

AND THESE ARE ALL, ALBEIT RECOMMENDATIONS OF EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD.

RIGHT.

THEY GOT TO SPEND A WEEK HERE.

RIGHT.

SO THEY DIDN'T GET TO DIG DOWN DEEP LIKE WE WILL HAVE TO DO FROM HERE ON OUT AS WE GO INTO IMPLEMENTATION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FORESTALL SOME OF THE, THE EMAILS AND CALLS, RIGHT.

THAT THIS IS.

YES.

THANKS RANDY.

MR. ANTS, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

THE, THE SPONSORS OF THE STUDY CHAMBER AND E E D A U C O, UH, WERE ANY OF THEIR, WERE THEY ALLOWED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT OR WERE THEY JUST SPONSORS OF THE GROUP AND THEN I DIDN'T SEE A LOT ABOUT UCOS POSITION ON ANYTHING.

UH, I BELIEVE THEY GOT TO TAKE PART IN THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

SURE.

SO THEY HAD THEIR INPUT AT THAT TIME.

AND I KNOW THEY HAD SOME ACCESS TO THE PANEL AT DINNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO, TO DISCUSS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY.

OR IDEAS THEY MIGHT'VE HAD.

U C O WAS INVOLVED.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

SEEMS LIKE ALSO WHEN WE WENT TO THE RE WHEN THEY GAVE THE REPORT MM-HMM.

, THEY TALKED ABOUT CONNECTING U C O TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THAT THAT WAS A LOT OF THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT, THAT WALKABILITY BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, ACROSS, AND THAT'S WHY MAIN STREET WAS RECOMMENDED AS GETTING THE SIGNAL, MAKE THAT AS FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

YEP.

CORRECT.

SO WE'LL HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS.

AND WHAT'S YOUR SCHEDULE ON ANY OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS IT'S GONNA BE AS THEY COME FORWARD.

LIKE THE OVERLAY WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

UH, THINGS THAT ARE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH.

UH, THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR STUDY, FOR INSTANCE, IS PROBABLY AN EIGHT TO 12 MONTH STUDY.

AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN DONE THE R F P YET.

WE HOPE TO HAVE IT OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE PIECES THAT ARE COMING FROM THIS AND WE'LL REFER BACK.

THIS IS THE IMPETUS OF THIS IS THE U L I STUDY THAT YOU SAW.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND I DID APPRECIATE THE GREEN ARROWS.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN PROCESS, UM, AND CURRENTLY BEING ADDRESSED VERSUS THINGS THAT ARE LONG, LONGER TIMELINES.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THE PRESENTATION THAT THE U L I FOLKS DID, UM, AT U C O THAT DAY, I THINK IT'S RECORDED.

IT IS.

UM, AND AVAILABLE IF FOLKS WANNA GO BACK AND HEAR IT FROM THE FOLKS WHO VISITED HERE.

GOOD PRESENTATION.

IT'S NEED.

THE REPORT IS OUT ON OUR WEBSITE.

RIGHT.

IF YOU WANNA READ THE REPORT.

I DO HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP THERE.

GO.

READY.

SIR, THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE, THAT AT THE VO TECH THAT, THAT MORNING WERE, THEY WERE CHATTED WITH, DO, DO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN? AGAIN AS WE GO FORWARD? UH, I WOULD HOPE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE STAY INVOLVED AS WE GO FORWARD.

I MEAN, THEY TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO BE, TO COME AND BE INTERVIEWED, UH, OUT OF THEIR WORKDAY.

UH, THOSE PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY HIGHLY MOTIVATED PEOPLE TO STAY INVOLVED IN THE DOWNTOWN IN THE DISCUSSION.

AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE TO THAT, UH,

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WE WILL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

ONE BEING IS I THINK MOST OF US ARE ON CITY COUNCIL, UH, GET CALLS, EMAILS, OR GET STOPPED WITH A, HEY, I HEARD A RUMOR ABOUT THIS.

SO, UH, A LOT OF THOSE IN DOWNTOWN THAT I ENCOUNTER HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH PERMANENT STREET CLOSINGS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO PUT EVERYONE'S MIND AT EASE AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION OF THIS, ANY TYPE OF PERMANENT STREET CLOSING OBVIOUSLY WOULD GO THROUGH SOME COMMENT PERIOD OF WHICH THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, WEIGH IN ON YES.

THERE.

AND THERE ARE NO STREET CLOSURES COMING FROM THIS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW.

THERE WOULD BE A BIG PUBLIC PROCESS INVOLVED IN THAT.

I JUST WANTED, JUST WANTED TO MAKE, MAKE PUT IT ALL OUT THERE.

'CAUSE I, I PROBABLY GET THAT AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK AS FAR AS OTHER OTHER FOLKS DO.

THE SECOND THING, WHICH I THINK IS VERY BENEFICIAL FROM THIS OUT OF IT IS THIS IDEA OF HAVING A PROJECT MANAGER.

UM, AS THINGS ARE SIGNIFICANT THAT ARE BEING INVESTED, THE NORMAL SORT OF PROTOCOL IS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA, UH, THEY, THEY FINALLY FIGURE OUT WHO THEIR CITY COUNSELOR IS OR MAYBE THEY KNOW ON STAFF.

THEN THE MEETING HAPPENS, WHICH WE'RE ALL AROUND THE TABLE SORT OF DISCUSSING CONCEPTUALLY.

AND THEN IT SORT OF GETS PASSED OFF.

AND THEN THE, THE CITY MANAGER IN THAT CASE SORT HAS TO IDENTIFY WHO HAS BANDWIDTH, WHATEVER.

AT LEAST STARTING HERE, WE'LL HAVE HOPEFULLY SOME TIME AROUND JANUARY.

UH, FIRST, UH, IS SOMEBODY WHO WILL BE DEDICATED WAKING UP EVERY DAY AND SAYING, HOW CAN I JUST MAKE THINGS FLOW EASIER? GET THINGS RED TAPE CUT OR IMPROVE PROCESSES, IMPROVE COMMUNICATION.

SO I THINK THAT'S VERY POSITIVE AND SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY ONCE GETS UP AND COULD GET REPLICATED.

I WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF, UM, FOR THEIR RECENT, UM, PUSH AROUND COMMUNICATION FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW.

THERE'S A WEEKLY EMAIL THAT NOW GOES OUT DETAILING EVERYTHING THAT STAFF KNOWS IN REGARDS TO, UH, IMPACTS OF ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR UTILITY PROJECT, OF WHICH THERE ARE A LOT HAPPENING.

I THINK THAT HELPS AGAIN, TOWARDS THAT RUMOR MILL.

BUT THEN ALSO PEOPLE KNOW WITH CLARITY THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE EVERY SINGLE FRIDAY AND THEY CAN EITHER SIGN UP TO GET IT OR THEY CAN VIEW THAT ON THE WEBSITE OR SHARE IT.

UM, SINCE OUR LAST, UH, CONVERSATION WHERE WE DISCUSSED HOUSING, I'VE BEEN DIGGING INTO IT A LOT AND JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT'S THERE IN MY DISTRICT.

THIS LAST SUNDAY, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO WHAT WAS REFERRED TO AS A HOUSE BLESSING.

AND, AND IT WAS REALLY, UH, A SPECIAL EXPERIENCE FOR MY FAMILY.

AND I, UM, FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE, TURNING POINT IS A MINISTRY THAT HAS A, UH, MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY RIGHT OFF FRETS, WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE, IF I HAD A REALLY STRONG ARM, MAYBE 21 YEARS OLD, I COULD THROW A FOOTBALL FROM THE LARK DOWN THERE ON THE WEST SIDE OFF FRETS AND MAYBE HIT IT SO CLOSE BETWEEN THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT.

WHAT WE FIND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND TURNING POINT IS WE HAVE WELL-DESIGNED HOMES WITH A PROGRAM THAT HELPS PEOPLE WITH, UH, COUNSELING AND CREDIT AND FINANCING AND JOB.

THERE'S 200 HOURS THAT ARE COMPLETED.

AND, UM, WHEN I WAS TOLD ABOUT WHO'S LIVING THERE, WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, EDUCATORS OR TEACHERS, PEOPLE THAT SERVE IN OUR ARMED FORCES, PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING US AND, YOU KNOW, DISPATCH OR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND I THINK THAT WAS JUST A REALLY GOOD MODEL.

AND WHEN I FOLLOWED UP WITH THEIR BOARD, I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH THEM VERY CLOSELY ON, UM, HELPING THEM WITH THEIR PERMIT PROCESS TO REDUCE SOME OF THE COSTS.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT PLANS THAT ARE READY, I THINK THEY REPRESENT A REALLY GOOD MODEL SINCE THEY'RE LITERALLY QUITE SIMPLY THE SAME AS THEY ARE DEVELOPING THOSE TO SEE IF IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN, UH, SOLIDIFIED OR CODIFIED TO USE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT'S IN PLACE WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL 10, UH, UNITS OR SO COMING ADDITIONALLY TO THE 200 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT, THAT, UH, NEW HOMEOWNER DOES BEFORE THEY GET THE KEYS.

UH, WHICH THEIR, THEIR FRIENDS OR NEIGHBORS CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE IN OR THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN JOIN THEM ON THEIR BEHALF IS THEIR COVENANTS HAVE IT.

SO THAT H O A ONCE IT'S SET UP DOES THE MAINTENANCE OF THE KIND OF SMALL GREEN AREA SPACE AND LAWN, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY GREAT 'CAUSE IT HELPS RETAIN THAT VALUE.

SO I JUST WAS HOPEFUL, YOU KNOW, THAT I WANT TO TELL THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE ARE PLACES, PARTICULARLY IN WARD ONE, WHERE WE OFFER ALL TYPES OF STEP OR ATTAINABLE HOUSING FROM VERY EXPENSIVE TO THE HIGHEST END SORT OF TRENDS TO, UM, FABRIC, YOU KNOW, MOBILE HOMES TO THIS.

AND I HOPE WE CAN DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO REALIZE THAT THE SKY'S NOT FALLING AS I WENT OUTSIDE AND, AND VISITED THAT LAST SUNDAY.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND, UM, AN INVITATION ON MY BEHALF TO BE AS HELPFUL AS I CAN TO USE SOME OF THAT, PARTICULARLY THE TURNING POINT TO SEE HOW, UH, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER LAND THAT THEY HAVE IN THE CITY, UH, TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN REPLICATING THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD MENTION WOULD BE IS, UM, WASTE DISPOSAL.

SO, UM, I'M, I'M OFTEN REMINDED OF MR. ZAHA, WHO I MET A, A FEW MONTHS AGO.

WE HAD THE RED BOOK BUILDING DOWNTOWN EDMOND, WHICH IS ELLIS ISLAND COFFEE NOW.

AND SOME OTHER PLACES, THEY WERE THE FIRST TO KIND OF GET IN THERE WITH

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ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL FAR BEFORE THERE WAS A QUIET ZONE FAR BEFORE THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT WERE LOOKING TO INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

I'M TOLD GRAIN ASSAULT WITH TRUTH THAT INITIALLY WAS DENIED BECAUSE OF, UH, A WASTE, UH, A WASTE ISSUE OF WHERE THINGS, HOW THE DUMPSTER AND SOME THINGS.

AND THAT EVENTUALLY WENT BACK TO COUNCIL AND GOT WORKED OUT.

AS WE LOOK TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS IN OUR URBAN CORE AROUND HANDLING SOME OF OUR UTILITIES AND OR WASTE.

AND I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT AS WE DO SO, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT WITH THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE, IS THAT WE'LL MAINTAIN OUR FLEXIBILITY, UH, SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD WHAT WE NEED AT THE DIFFERENT STEPS OR ATTAINABLE HOUSING.

UH, THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE SOME THINGS THAT OUR CURRENT FLEET OR OPERATIONS CAN'T DO, BUT WE CAN DO IN OUR DIFFERENT CONTRACTS TO BE ABLE TO PERMIT THOSE.

AND SO I APPLAUD SORT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.

WE'LL LOOK AT SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IF WE DO THE ZONING PART, BUT FORGET ABOUT THE WASTE PART OR FORGET ABOUT THE OTHER ELEMENTS, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ONLY HALF BAKED AS FAR AS THAT.

SO, UH, MORE OF, I GUESS A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT STUCK OUT TO YOU THAT, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE, UH, ON THE, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN IS A UNIQUE AREA TO DEVELOP INCHES MATTER NOT FEET.

UH, AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP REALIZE THAT AND FACILITATE THAT, UH, WE WILL GET BETTER DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF IT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WANT IS BETTER DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

SO, OKAY.

YES, SIR.

UM, THANKS MAYOR.

THANKS RANDY.

UM, THIS, THIS WAS AN EFFORT, UH, FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY INTERVIEWS DID A HUNDRED PEOPLE TAKE, DO INTERVIEWS OVER A A HUNDRED PEOPLE.

SO WE APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORT, WE APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERS.

LEMME JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.

UH, RANDY MENTIONED THE DOWNTOWN TRANSFORMATION MANAGER POSITION.

WE APPRECIATE SOME OF OUR EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, THAT RECRUITMENT PROCESS.

WE WENT THROUGH A FIRST PROCESS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BE VERY SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO THAT PERSON IS.

IT HAS A UNIQUE SKILLSET.

UM, AND SO WE WANT TO GET THAT RIGHT.

SO WE APPRECIATE STAKEHOLDERS STAYING INVOLVED WITH US AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON, UH, HOPEFULLY NO LATER THAN THE 1ST OF JANUARY.

I KNOW THE REST OF THE STAFF WOULD BE EAGER TO HAVE THAT PERSON COME ON BOARD TO HAVE SOMEBODY SINGLY SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON DOWNTOWN.

THE OTHER PART IS RANDY TALKED ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH? WHAT'S THAT PUBLIC DISCUSSION? ONLY FIRST, I KNOW THIS IS, IT'LL IMPACT DOWNTOWN, BUT ACROSS THE CITY, UH, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW WE HAVE, I'LL CALL IT GROWING PAINS ON OUR PROCESSES.

HOW DO WE IMPROVE THAT? YOU, I HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THOSE.

WE'VE TALKED TO OUR DENTAL COMMUNITY.

WE'VE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED THOSE, UH, INTERNALLY WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PROCESSES WE CAN IMPROVE.

HAVING SAID THAT, UH, THAT'S ONE SIDE OF THE COIN.

WE NEED TO HAVE INPUT FROM THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.

EVERYTHING FROM DEVELOPER, CONTRACTORS, REALTORS, FINANCIERS, ALL THE ABOVE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE UNDERTAKING, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING SOME INTERVIEWS FOR AN EXTERNAL FACILITATOR, IS TO HAVE A EXTERNAL FACILITATOR COME IN AND WALK US WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO DO A, I'LL CALL IT AN ASSESSMENT.

UH, IT COULD BE SOME, UM, UM, CHALLENGING, UH, FEEDBACK RECEIVE FROM OUR PARTNERS.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE BEFORE WE GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS WE THINK WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM OUR PARTNERS TO SAY, THAT'S GREAT, YOU CONCENTRATED ON THAT.

BUT REALLY THE ISSUE IS OVER HERE.

SO THAT'LL BE A PROCESS.

UH, THIS FALL WE'LL GO THROUGH AND WE'LL INVITE AN EXTENSIVE, UH, MEMBERS, OUR, OUR DEVELOP COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.

'CAUSE WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL IF THEY'RE PART OF THAT, THAT SOLUTION.

AND WE KNOW IF WE HAVE THEIR SUPPORT AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PROCESSES, WE'LL BE FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL.

UM, LEMME TALK ABOUT, UH, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE, SINCE IT'S COME OUT, TALKED ABOUT MAIN STREET AND, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE GONNA DO X, Y, AND Z.

BE VERY CLEAR.

AGAIN, THAT'LL BE AN EXTERNAL PROCESS.

WE HAVE NO TIMELINE FOR THAT.

WE'RE IN NO HURRY TO DO THAT.

UM, IF AND WHEN WE DO THAT, THAT'LL BE, AGAIN, AN EXTERNAL PROCESS.

WE'LL HAVE ROBUST DISCUSSION FACILITATED BY SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY TO THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE IT'S FAIR AND OBJECTIVE.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE NO PROCESS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

MM-HMM.

LASTLY, COUNCILOR MOORE BROUGHT UP A GREAT QUESTION ABOUT U C O.

WE, WE DID THE, UH, PROCESS INTERESTING PERIOD FOR U C O.

THEY'RE GOING THROUGH TRANSITION OF A NEW, UM, PRESIDENT AT THE TIME.

WE NOW HAVE PRESIDENT, UM, ON BOARD.

AND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, HE'S VERY EAGER TO, ONCE HE GETS BACK PAST THESE OPENING COUPLE MONTHS OF SCHOOL TO GET ENGAGE WITH THE CITY.

SO I'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING WITH THE, SOME OF THEIR, UM, SUPPORT STAFF.

THEY, THE REPORT ACTUALLY CALLS OUT THE VALUE OF CREATING A SMALL WORKING GROUP THAT MEETS ON A CONSISTENT BASIS WITH U C L TALKING ONLY ABOUT PEDESTRIAN.

THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, UM, THEY'VE EXPRESSED IN THE PAST.

HOW DO WE

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CREATE SOMEWHAT LIKE A CAMPUS CORNER ATMOSPHERE? I THINK U O I CALLED KIND OF A UNIVERSITY CORRIDOR BETWEEN THEIR CAMPUS AND DOWNTOWN.

UM, AND PART OF THAT WAS TO MOVE AWAY AS MUCH AS SOME MAY THINK IT'S A COMMUTER CAMPUS OR COMMUTER COLLEGE, IT IS OUR COLLEGE AS A COMMUNITY MM-HMM.

.

AND SOMEHOW WE NEED TO BREAK DOWN, I'LL CALL IT THAT BARRIER LINE OR BARRIER TO INVITE NOT ONLY THOSE STUDENTS AND FACULTY INTO OUR DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS HOW DO WE INVITE OUR, OUR, OUR SIDE TO GET INTO CAMPUS.

SO IT'LL BE AN ONGOING EFFORT.

AND LASTLY, RANDY'S, THIS WAS NOT A THREE YEAR PLAN OR FIVE YEAR REALLY, IF YOU TALK TO U U L I, THEY TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S A 10, 15, 20 YEAR PROGRAM.

SO THE THINGS YOU MAY READ TODAY GO, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE NEVER READY FOR THAT.

WE MAY BE READY FOR IT 12 YEARS FROM NOW.

WE MAY READY FOR SOME THINGS EARLIER THAN THAT.

BUT IT WAS A GOOD VIEW TO HAVE EXTERNAL PEOPLE COME INTO YOUR COMMUNITY.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DOG IN THE HUNT.

THEY WERE JUST VERY CLEAR AND SAID, IF YOU WANNA REALLY HAVE SOME SUCCESS, HERE'S WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER AREAS.

AND SO IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK.

SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, THANKS.

LETTING US TAKE THE TIME FOR THE WORKSHOP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, WANTED TO KNOW IF ANYONE IN THE, IN ANY OF OUR CITIZENS IN THE AUDIENCE WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING.

VERY GOOD.

SO NOW

[3. Update and Discussion from the Edmond Police Department on Topics including, but not limited to, Technology Implementation, Crime Prevention and Community Relations in the Downtown Area, and Recommendations for Expanded Video Coverage of Parks and Public Gathering Venues.]

WE'LL MOVE ON.

OUR AWARD-WINNING CHIEF IS COMING UP TO .

DID YOU BRING YOUR AWARD WITH YOU TO PUT ON YOUR PEDESTAL? I FORGOT THAT ONE TODAY.

.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UH, UNLIKE THE U L I PRESENTATION THAT HAD A POWERPOINT, UH, THE INTENTION OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY MORE OF A DISCUSSION.

UH, WE WANNA REVISIT ABOUT THINGS THAT WE PRESENTED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, SPECIFICALLY SOME TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS TO KINDA LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT, IMPLEMENTATION, AND THEN TOUCH ON, UH, STAFFING AND THE THINGS THAT WE SEE COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY JUST NEXT YEAR, UH, BUT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

UM, I DIDN'T PUT IT TOGETHER, UH, WHEN THE MANAGER PUT THESE TWO ITEMS ON THE SAME WORKSHOP.

BUT LISTENING TO RANDY TALK ABOUT U L I AND THE INTENTIONALITY AND PLANNING FOR BOTH DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS, UH, I REALLY THINK THE PRESENTATION TODAY FITS WELL WITH THAT.

UH, BECAUSE YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS JUST ANOTHER PARTNER IN DELIVERING SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS.

AND I FREQUENTLY GET ASKED, UH, IN DIFFERENT CIVIC CLUBS, UH, WHAT ARE MY CONCERNS OR WHAT ARE MY INTERESTS AS FAR AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? AND WHAT I TELL 'EM IS, IS MAINTAINING THE RELATIONSHIP AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS WITH THE CITIZENS IT SERVES.

AND SO I REALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS, THAT BECAME MORE IN MY FRONTAL LOBE AS I LISTENED TO RANDY TALK ABOUT, HEY, WHAT'S GONNA GO ON IN THE CITY FOR THE NEXT 5, 10, 15 YEARS MM-HMM.

.

AND SO HOPEFULLY THESE THINGS KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT.

UH, THE FIRST PART OF OF MY COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, UH, SPECIFICALLY AND SIMILAR TO THINGS YOU EXPERIENCE IN YOUR OWN HOME, YOUR OWN PERSONAL LIVES, YOUR OWN PROFESSIONAL LIVES, UH, TECHNOLOGY JUST CONTINUES TO INCREASE.

AND THE WAY THAT WE ADOPT IT AND, AND PUT IT INTO PLAY AGAIN, I THINK HAS TO BE INTENTIONAL, UH, WITH THE MIND AT THE END OF THE DAY OF JUST AUGMENTING THE SERVICE WE'RE DELIVERING TO THE CITIZENS.

SO THE, UH, THREE THINGS I'M GONNA SPECIFICALLY TOUCH ON TODAY, THEY'RE NOT NEW TECHNOLOGY ITEMS. UH, THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN AROUND, UH, IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND IN THE PROFESSION FOR MANY YEARS.

UH, I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THE EARLY ADOPTION STAGE OF ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS. WE'RE IN THE, THE WELL ACCEPTED STAGE.

AND SO THE FIRST ONE I'LL TALK ABOUT IS OUR LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM.

UH, YOU MAY RECALL IN MAY, WE SIGNED A PILOT CONTRACT WITH FLOCK, UH, SAFETY TO INSTALL, UH, THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS.

AND WE WENT THROUGH A 60 DAY PILOT PROCESS, THAT WAS JUNE AND JULY.

AND SINCE HAVE SIGNED A YEAR'S CONTRACT TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE.

AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF COME BACK AND TELL YOU WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE WAS, UH, DURING THAT TRIAL PERIOD.

UH, SO IT WAS A VERY CONTROLLED TRIAL PERIOD.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, DURING THE TIME OF THE, OF THE TRIAL, NOT ALL OFFICERS HAD ACCESS, UH, TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GETTING OUT OF THAT.

WE HAD A SELECT GROUP, I THINK AROUND 12, UH, THAT WERE KIND OF LED BY SOME INVESTIGATORS IN IMPLEMENTING AND TESTING THAT TECHNOLOGY.

UH, BUT DURING THOSE TWO MONTHS, WE HAD 107 HITS OFF OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE HOT LIST.

AND SO THAT IS A LIST OF TAGS THAT'S PUT INTO THE LICENSE PLATE READER DATABASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, PRIMARILY STOLEN TAGS, UH, BUT COULD BE TAGS OF INTEREST RELATED TO CRIMES THAT HAVE OCCURRED.

AND SO IN THAT 61 DAY PERIOD, 107 HITS, UH, SO ROUGHLY TWO A DAY.

AND MY TAKEAWAY FROM THAT WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE VEHICLES IN AND AMONGST OUR, OUR CITY, UH, THAT WE NEED TO CONTACT IN REFERENCE TO CRIMES THAT ARE OCCURRING.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU

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SOME EXAMPLES OF OF CONTACTS AND THEN SUBSEQUENT ARRESTS THAT WERE MADE, UH, RELATED TO THOSE HIT INCLUDE STOLEN VEHICLES WARRANTS, BOTH FELONY AND MISDEMEANOR, UH, STOLEN PROPERTY.

AND THEN OTHER RELATED THINGS LIKE, UH, FELONY ELUDING FROM OFFICERS WHEN WE TRIED TO CONTACT THEM.

UH, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, FLOCK IN PARTICULAR, UH, SERVICES 25 COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, THOUSANDS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

UH, BUT THE ONES THAT YOU MAY BE, UH, MOST INTERESTED IN ARE THE ONES IN OKLAHOMA, WHICH INCLUDE OKLAHOMA CITY, TULSA MOORE, GUTHRIE, MUSTANG WAR ACRES, MANY OF OUR METRO AREA PARTNERS.

A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, A BACKGROUND ON THAT, YOU SHOULD BE AWARE, UH, THAT NOT EVERYONE'S THE BIGGEST FAN OF LICENSE PLATE READERS, UH, AS NOT EVERYONE'S THE BIGGEST FAN OF THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, AND THERE IS, THERE'S SOME GOOD GROUNDS FOR THAT.

MOSTLY, MOSTLY PRIVACY ADVOCATES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHO'S ACCESSING THE DATA AND THEN HOW LONG THE RETENTION TIME IS FOR THE DATA.

AND SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY PRACTICES IN PLACE TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.

UH, FIRST ACCESS TO THE DATA IS GOVERNED BY AUTHORITY.

SO WE AUTHORIZE WHO CAN BOTH ENTER ONTO THE HOT LIST AND THEN WHO CAN RUN TAGS.

AND IF YOU DO CHECK A TAG IN THE SYSTEM, THERE'S AN AUDIT LOG THAT SAYS, WHO DID IT, WHY YOU DID IT, DATE AND TIME RAN.

AND WE DO CONDUCT PERIODIC AUDITS OF THAT TO SEE HOW THE DATA BEING ACCESSED.

UH, SO THAT'S ONE PROTECTION AGAINST THAT.

AND THE SECOND'S, THE RETENTION OF THE DATA.

SO THE TAGS ARE STORED FOR 30 DAYS, BUT THEY'RE NOT STORED LOCALLY.

SO FLOCK, IT HAS AN AUTHORIZED STORAGE CENTER, IT'S GOVERNMENT LEVEL, LEVEL STORAGE AND, AND SECURITY.

SO JUST TO KNOW THAT THE DATA IS SECURE, IT'S NOT RETAINED PAST 30 DAYS UNLESS IT'S RELATED TO A CASE AT WHICH TIME THAT IT WILL PULL OFF AND BECOME EVIDENTIARY IN NATURE.

BUT AFTER 30 DAYS, IT GOES AWAY IF IT'S NOT RELATED TO THAT CASE.

BUT I THINK THAT YOU MAY GET INQUIRIES ABOUT THOSE TWO POINTS, AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT, THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACCESS AND THE USE OF THAT DATA.

THE SECOND PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO UPDATE YOU ON IS THE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT DRONE PROGRAM.

UH, MOST OF THE OPEN SOURCE LITERATURE THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, TALKING ABOUT DRONE PROGRAMS, UH, AT LEAST RECENTLY ARE DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS.

THAT'S NOT THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING HERE.

UH, THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING HERE IS REALLY JUST A FORCE MULTIPLIER OR AN AUGMENTATION OF THE TOOL.

UH, SO SOME OF THE EXAMPLES WOULD BE MISSING CHILDREN, UH, SEARCH WARRANT SERVICES, TACTICAL OPERATIONS, UH, MAYBE LARGE PUBLIC GATHERINGS LIKE LIBERTY FEST, WHERE WE WOULD USE THEM, UH, AS KIND OF A REINFORCEMENT OR THAT FORCE FORCE MULTIPLIER WHERE WE COULDN'T PUT OFFICERS EVERYWHERE, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO PUT A DRONE UP TO GIVE AS A VISUAL.

UH, AND SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE TWO DISTINCTIONS.

FIRST RESPONDER PROGRAMS, AND YOU HEAR THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A CERTIFICATE OF OFF, UH, OP OF AUTHORITY FROM THE F A A AND THEY'RE SENDING THEM OUT LIKE YOU WOULD A PATROL CAR WITH AN OFFICER IN IT.

AND SO THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION AT THIS TIME.

IT'S JUST TO USE THEM AS A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER OPERATIONS WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE HUMAN RESOURCES IN PLAY.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THE, UH, THE FIRST AGENCY TO IMPLEMENT THIS IS OVER 1400 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY HAVE DRONE PROGRAMS, UH, TO INCLUDE 84% OF THE BENCHMARK PARTNERS THAT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT USES TO KIND OF COMPARE OURSELVES AGAINST IN THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

AND THEN THE LAST AREA I WANNA TOUCH ON AS FAR AS TECHNOLOGY ISN'T NECESSARILY DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALTHOUGH WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT.

AND THAT IS I REALLY WANT TO ADVOCATE, UH, AS POLICY MAKERS, UH, FOR US TO, TO INTENTIONALLY FOCUS ON THE EXPANSION OF OUR VIDEO SURVEILLANCE RESOURCES IN THE CITY.

UH, THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD REALLY SINCE THE SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.

UH, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, WE HAVE VIDEO RESOURCES IN THE CITY.

UH, THEY'RE PRIMARILY ON CITY PROPERTIES LIKE WATER RESOURCES, POLICE DEPARTMENT PROPERTIES AND OTHERS, BUT HAVE RECENTLY BEGAN TO EXPAND, UH, WHETHER OR NOT INTENDED TO BE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE.

THE, THE INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC SYSTEM USES CAMERAS AND RETAINS DATA FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE IN HOMICIDE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, IN SERIOUS CRASHES.

UH, RECENTLY WE'VE INSTALLED VIDEO CAPABILITY AT MIDGE PARK, UH, WHERE EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A GREAT FESTIVAL AT CHRISTMAS AND WE PUT UP THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AT THE LIGHTS AND ROUTINELY WE'RE EXPERIENCING VANDALISM AND OTHER THEFT IN THE AREA, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INSTALL CAMERAS TO ASSIST WITH THAT.

AND SO, AS A POLICY GROUP, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR THE INCLUSION OF THOSE TYPES OF RESOURCES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UH, AND AGAIN, BACK TO THE U L I PROJECT, AS YOU CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE

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DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE WE, WE ROUTINELY HOST LARGE PUBLIC GATHERINGS WITH HER ON HERD VIBE, THE ARTS FESTIVAL, LIBERTY FEST, OR WE REALLY COULDN'T HIRE ENOUGH HUMAN RESOURCES TO HAVE A VISUAL IN EVERY LOCATION.

BUT IF WE WERE TO HAVE SURVEILLANCE CAPABILITIES, WE COULD GENERALIZE THOSE TO A LOCATION AND HAVE A PERSON WATCH MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO GOOD RESOURCES FOR CRIME REDUCTION.

UH, THERE'S A LONG-TERM STUDY THAT OVER 40 YEARS IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES SHOW THAT CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION RESULTED IN AT LEAST A 13% REDUCTION IN CRIME.

AND THAT WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT OUR CRIME LEVELS WERE VERY FORTUNATE, EDMOND ENOUGH TO HAVE, UH, THAT LEVEL OF CRIME.

SO I DON'T THINK WE WOULD EXPERIENCE, UH, THAT KIND OF REDUCTION, BUT HOPEFULLY WHAT WE WOULD EXPERIENCE IS, IS KIND OF MITIGATING ANY KIND OF INCREASE, UH, AS OUR CITY GROWS AND ACTIVITIES INCREASE.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER EITHER OF THOSE THREE TECHNOLOGIES OR THE USE FORM ON THAT BLOCK CHIEF? IS IT, UM, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS IT SOMETHING THAT THEY MANUALLY PUT IN A, UH, OR IS IT SCANNING OR HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY TECHNOLOGY SYNC AND WORK? UH, SO THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO IT.

ONE, OUR INPUTS OR WHAT I REFERRED TO AS THE HOT LIST.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE A LIST OF TAGS FROM STOLEN VEHICLES OR, OR A LIST OF TAGS FROM VEHICLES THAT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUSPECT.

UH, SO IN JANUARY WE EXPERIENCED A SHOOTING IN THE MITCH PARK AREA.

UH, AND THE SUSPECT IN THAT, THE TAG FOR THAT VEHICLE HAD BEEN CAPTURED BY A FLOCK CAMERA IN A NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION.

AND HAVING ACCESS TO THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO GO IN AND IDENTIFY, YES, CONFIRM THAT WAS THE CAR, THE TAG WAS ON, UH, GETTING DATE AND TIME, GENERAL LOCATION OF WHERE THE CAR MIGHT BE LOCATED.

SO THAT ASSISTED IN THAT INVESTIGATION.

SO WE DO THE INPUTS OURSELVES, AND THEN HOW IT READS IS THE CAMERAS ARE, ARE TAKING PICTURES OF TAGS, AND IF IT FINDS ONE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT HOT LIST, IT SENDS AN ALERT TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER.

AND THEN DISPATCH WOULD NOTIFY OFFICERS IN THE AREA THAT AN, THAT AN ALERT HAS BEEN RECEIVED.

NOW, THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU PROBABLE CAUSE, UH, TO MAKE A STOP.

THAT JUST LETS YOU KNOW THERE'S A VEHICLE IN THE AREA SO YOU COULD INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION IF YOU WERE TO ENCOUNTER THE VEHICLE.

SO THERE ARE STILL ALL THOSE, THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS THAT YOU AS A DRIVER OR CITIZEN WOULD HAVE.

IT JUST ALERTS THE OFFICERS THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING IN THE AREA WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE, AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOT LIST OF ALL THE JURISDICTIONS WHO PARTICIPATE IN FLOCK.

RIGHT? UH, POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY.

AND, AND SO, UH, A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS, YOU MAY READ ABOUT THIS FROM OKLAHOMA CITY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROVIDE ACCESS TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

AND SO, UH, IN GENERAL WE WOULD, AND IN GENERAL, WE WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO OTHER AGENCIES.

UH, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO.

OKAY.

UH, BUT, UH, THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING YOU WOULD DO, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.

YEAH.

UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE, IF THEY DON'T KNOW THE COLOR OF THEIR TRASH CAN, THEY MAY NOT KNOW THEY LIVE IN EDMOND OR OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND SO IT'S, IT DOES MAKE SENSE FOR US TO, TO SHARE RESOURCES WITH OUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.

AND HOW DO WE PLAN ON COMMUNICATING THIS? WE'VE GONE FROM A INTERIM STUDY TO A FULL YEAR.

NOW HOW DO WE PLAN ON COMMUNICATING THIS TO THE, OUR, THE COMMUNITY IS, I, I'M RECEIVING CALLS.

THEY, THEY, PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE CAMERAS UP AND THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND SO MAJORITY OF THINGS THAT WE, WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST FROM WHATEVER WE MAKE A CHANGE, WE'VE NORMALLY NOTIFIED, HAD FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE OUR PLANS FOR THIS FLOCK? IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME LIMITED ENGAGEMENT IN COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, UH, BOTH THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD, UH, AND THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER CIVIC MEETINGS THAT WE ATTEND.

UH, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL YEAR'S CONTRACT IN PLACE, UH, OUR INTENTION IS TO UTILIZE OUR CRIME PREVENTION AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS OFFICER AS THE PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL DEVELOP A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO GO WITH IT.

ONE OF THE UNIQUE ATTRIBUTES OF THE FLOCK SAFETY SYSTEM IS THAT PRIVATE ENTITIES, UH, CAN PURCHASE OR CONTRACT WITH 'EM FOR THEIR OWN CAMERAS, AND THEN THEY CAN SHARE ACCESS TO THAT WITH US.

AND SO, UH, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN NATIONALLY IS LARGE SCALE RETAILERS PUTTING 'EM IN THEIR PARKING LOTS.

UH, SO THEY ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A HOT LIST OF SOMEONE THAT'S NOTED TO BE CONDUCTING, YOU KNOW, GRAND LARCENY ON A LARGE SCALE, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT, UH, IT'LL ALERT ON TAGS FOR THAT.

AND SO WE'LL BE GOING TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND OTHER CIVIC GROUPS JUST EXPLAINING THE TECHNOLOGY AND EXPLAINING THE OPTIONS THEY MAY HAVE, UH, IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN PARTNERING WITH US ON UTILIZATION OF THE DATA.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO GET TO THAT POINT.

I THINK, UH, AFTER THIS PRESENTATION

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OF COUNCIL TONIGHT AND, AND MAKING SURE Y'ALL ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY STEP UP OUR EFFORTS ON, UH, COMMUNICATION IN THAT AREA.

SO KIND OF LIKE IN FOR HOAS, I KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PERIODICALLY HAS A LOT OF THEFT OUT OF VEHICLES AND OUR, EVERYBODY HAS A CAMERA ON THEIR HOME, BUT THEY CATCH THIS FOGGY CAR THAT YOU AREN'T EVEN SURE WHAT COLOR IT IS, BUT IF YOU HAD IT AT THE ENTRANCES OF THE ADDITIONS, THAT COULD HELP TO CATCH THAT PERSON TAKING ALL THEIR STUFF.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

UH, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL HOAS IN EDMOND THAT ALREADY HAVE CAMERA SYSTEMS INSTALLED AT POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND, AND, AND THEY'RE FREQUENTLY OF ASSISTANCE WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY WITHIN THE H O HOAS CONTROL, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO IMPLEMENTATION AND MANAGEMENT OF IT WOULD BE THEIR TOOL.

MM-HMM.

, IT JUST ALLOWS THEM TO EASILY SHARE THAT IF THEY CHOSE TO DO SO.

'CAUSE I'M SURE PEOPLE WHO DO COMMIT THESE CRIMES DON'T PROBABLY HANG AROUND IN A TWO BLOCK RADIUS.

YEAH, I'VE, I'VE SEEN DATA THAT TELLS US THAT 95% OF CRIMES IS COMMITTED BY SOMEONE THAT EITHER TOOK A CAR TO GET THERE MM.

OR LEFT IN A CAR.

MM.

AND SO AGAIN, IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY IN PUBLIC SPACES MM-HMM.

, UH, WHERE THAT CAR MIGHT BE, AND IT JUST ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF EVIDENCE, UH, TO THE INVESTIGATION.

SO CHIEF, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, POLICING HAS CHANGED NOW.

UH, IT USED TO BE, HEY, HOW MANY BADGES AND GUNS CAN WE GET ON THERE? HOW MANY INVESTIGATORS, DETECTIVES, PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT YOU INVESTIGATE, UH, WHETHER IT BE AN INCIDENT AT SCHOOL OR A THEFT THAT COUNCILOR PETERSON JUST, UH, REFERENCED INVOLVES VIDEO OR TERABYTES OF DATA.

SO HOW ARE WE, AS FAR AS GIVING YOU THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOME FUTURE PLANNING, WHERE YOU'LL HAVE THE DATA ANALYSTS THAT WE ALSO ARE FIGHTING WITH, YOU KNOW, HEALTH SYSTEMS AND OIL AND GAS, AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, BOEING, LIKE ALL THE, EVERYONE THAT NEEDS THIS TYPE OF TALENT AND EXPERTISE.

HOW'S YOUR DEPARTMENT SORT OF PLANNING FOR THAT, UM, FOR THAT INFLUX OF, OF MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DATA THAT ARE LANDING ON YOUR DESK DAILY? WELL, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU A STICKY NOTE TO GIMME THE SEGUE INTO OUR NEXT SECTION.

'CAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT ONE RIGHT THERE IS MOVING INTO THE STAFFING PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

UH, AND WHILE THAT WAS MY, MY THIRD POINT, UH, WE CAN PUT IT FIRST TOO.

UH, AND WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE BUILDING, WE TALK ABOUT ALTERNATIVE SERVICE DELIVERY OPTIONS.

UH, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, 40 YEARS AGO IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ALMOST EVERYONE IN THERE HAD A BADGE AND A GUN.

IT DIDN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE ANSWERING THE PHONE, IF THEY WERE PULLING RECORDS, UH, IF THEY WERE WORKING DETENTION, THEY WERE ALL COPS.

UH, AND THAT'S THE FURTHEST THING FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

UH, AT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

25% OF THE WORKFORCE IS CIVILIAN.

AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IT'LL BE A, A LARGER PERCENTAGE THAN THAT.

AND A LOT OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS.

AND SO, LIKE TWO PARTICULAR AREAS, UH, WHERE THAT'S, UH, RELEVANT ARE OUR TECHNICAL INVESTIGATORS AND OUR FORENSIC INVESTIGATORS, UH, AND FORENSIC INVESTIGATORS FOCUS ON COMPUTERS AND PHONES AND, AND ANYTHING THAT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, BITES TO IT.

UH, AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST 15 YEARS IS THE TECHNICAL INVESTIGATORS, WHICH ARE OUR CRIME SCENE PROCESSORS THAT HAVE GONE FROM BEING GUNTOTERS, UH, TO PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED, UH, TECHNICAL INVESTIGATORS THAT ALL THREE HAVE DEGREES FROM U C O AND THEIR CIVILIAN STAFF.

UH, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS THEY'VE GONE TO SCHOOL WITH A PASSION FOR DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK.

SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING SOMEONE THAT MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN HOPING YOU CAN DEVELOP A PASSION.

YOU ARE RECRUITING PEOPLE WITH A PASSION IN THE TRAINING TO GO WITH IT.

AND SO THAT'S BEEN HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL IN THE FORENSIC INVESTIGATOR AREA.

UH, TRADITIONALLY WE HAD COPS DOING THAT WORK, AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST COMPETENT THAT I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED.

BUT IT STILL CAUSES PROBLEMS WITH SUSTAINABILITY, UH, BECAUSE COPS RETIRE AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO FIND ANOTHER COP AND HOPE TO TRAIN THEM UP.

WELL THEN YOU'RE ALWAYS CHASING YOUR TOE AND, AND YOU'LL NEVER ENSURE THAT YOU'LL HAVE THAT LEVEL OF COMPETENCY.

UH, SO LAST YEAR COUNCIL APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AND WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE A MASTER'S LEVEL TRAINED FORENSIC INVESTIGATOR, A CIVILIAN, UH, WHO, WHO WALKS IN THE DOOR AGAIN WITH THAT PASSION AND WITH AN ELEVATED LEVEL OF CERTIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD.

AND SO WE REALLY SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD, UH, AS THE MODEL.

AND SO YOU WILL SEE COMING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UH, PROPOSALS TO CIVILIANIZED CERTAIN POSITIONS, UH, OR ADD TO POSITIONS THAT MAY BE CURRENTLY FILLED WITH, WITH A SWORN PERSON, UH, ADD A CIVILIAN TO THAT STAFF.

UH, I THINK THAT GIVES US, AGAIN, MORE OPTIONS AND SUSTAINABILITY FROM A STAFFING POINT AND ALLOWS US TO TRACK HIGH LEVEL TALENT, UH, TO PERFORM THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS IN, IN LESS TECHNICAL AREAS,

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BUT NO LESS IMPACTFUL AREAS.

UH, LAST YEAR COUNSEL APPROVED TWO POSITIONS IN RECORDS, UH, THAT WE TITLED RECORDS OFFICER BAILIFFS.

AND THOSE JOBS WERE REDESIGNED FROM WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY ENCOUNTER IS YOU'D COME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, INFORM US THAT YOU WANTED TO COMPLETE A REPORT, AND WE WOULD SAY, WE'LL PICK UP THAT PHONE.

AND THEY'LL CALL DISPATCH AND THEY'LL GET AHOLD OF AN OFFICER WHO'S LIKELY IN THE FIELD.

AND SO THEN THE OFFICER WILL COME BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAKE YOUR REPORT.

AND SO WITH THESE TWO RECORDS OFFICER POSITIONS THAT YOU APPROVED, UH, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS THAT WORK IN RECORDS.

AND SO WHEN THEY'RE NOT TAKING REPORTS, THEY'RE PERFORMING RECORDS DUTIES, WHICH IS A BIG HELP TO THAT STAFF.

BUT WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE LOBBY READY TO FILE A REPORT.

WE HAVE A PERSON ON SITE IMMEDIATELY CAPABLE OF TAKING THAT REPORT.

IN ADDITION TO JUST TAKING THE REPORT.

THEY HAVE 30 YEARS, UH, EACH OF EXPERIENCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO THEY CAN DO SOME OF THE INITIAL TRIAGE, UH, TO THE REPORT.

EITHER BE FROM INFORMATION SHARING, UH, OR THE WAY THAT THEY COMMUNICATE THAT TO INVESTIGATORS, UH, TO REALLY GIVE IT A CLEARER PATH, UH, FOR GETTING TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GET.

SO AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW DO WE PROVIDE THAT ELEVATED LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE SOMEBODY WEARING A GUN AND A BADGE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO TO YOUR POINT, THOSE WILL CONTINUE TO COME TO YOU, UH, FOR HOW WE ADD TO, UH, MODIFY OR CHANGE THE WAY WE'RE DELIVERING SERVICE.

SO, SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THAT QUALITY.

MY GUESS IS, IS THAT EVERYTHING WITHIN THE STATE STATUTE IS UNDER THE CONTEXT OF THE, WHAT IT'S BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED YEARS, UH, AROUND CLEAT AND WHO HAS A BADGE AND WHAT AUTHORITY AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING TO PUT ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT AS YOU BRING ON CIVILIANS, GIVES THEM THE POWER AND AUTHORITY THAT THEY NEED TO ACT IN A CERTAIN ROLE, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT CLEA CLEAT CERTIFIED? LIKE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THAT TECHNOLOGY, DO WE HAVE THE, LIKE, DO WE NEED TO BE ASKING WITH OTHER CITIES FOR SOME TYPE OF UPDATE OR IN CERTAIN ROLES THAT MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACT IN A MODERN WAY? THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC WHEN IT COMES TO THE SERVICE WE'RE DELIVERING IN THE BUILDING.

UH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH SOME OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ON, UH, POSSIBLY EXPANDING OPTIONS, UH, FOR THEM TO, UH, TO HAVE DIFFERENT SERVICES, UH, THAT TRADITIONALLY WOULD HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH JUST POLICE FOR.

UH, BUT I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF, OF WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES AND, AND OUR LOBBYISTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD TWO OTHER SPECIFIC AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING, UH, THAT I THINK WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT MAYBE INDIVIDUALLY, UH, BUT I WANTED TO GET OUT FOR A COLLECTIVE DISCUSSION.

UH, ARE TWO EXPANDING AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, ONE BEING THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, WITH INCREASED DENSITY AND EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WALKABILITY AND, AND OTHER PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

UH, AND THEN THE SECOND BEING, UH, THE LARGE LANDMASS THAT'S EAST OF COLTRANE.

UH, WE KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE SAY, WELL, EAST, EAST EDMOND, EAST OF I 35, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, BUT REALLY FROM A POLICING STANDPOINT, EAST OF COLTRANE, UH, IS WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE NEED TO PROBABLY REDESIGN OUR DISTRICTS AND SERVICE DELIVERY THERE, UH, WITH WHAT IS COMING IN.

AND WE EXPECT TO COME FURTHER AT SOONER IN COVELL, THAT'D BE OF INTEREST, UH, WITH THE ACTIVITY, UH, ALONG WHERE THE HOSPITALS ARE ON I 35, THAT'S OF INTEREST.

AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, WITH INCREASING DENSITY EAST OF I 35, THAT'S AN INTEREST.

UH, IT'S NOT JUST AS SIMPLE AS JUST ADDING AN OFFICER.

UH, I THINK THE SERVICE EXPECTATIONS FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN IN A GROWING ENTERTAINMENT AREA, UH, AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ACTIVITY AFTER HOURS AND BEFORE HOURS, UH, I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE PURSUING NOW IS MORE OF A, A TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY POLICING LOOK.

AND SO THAT'S OFFICERS OUT OF CARS, UH, ON FOOT ON BICYCLES, UH, DOING MORE ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

UH, PROBABLY WON'T BE A STANDALONE DISTRICT.

IT'LL PROBABLY BE LIKE AN OVERLAY, UH, DURING THE HOURS THAT WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE MORE PEOPLE.

UH, BUT STILL A CHANGE FROM, FROM WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE.

UH, AS A PILOT FOR THAT.

I THINK Y'ALL ARE AWARE, I PROBABLY HAVE SEEN SERGEANT RANDY PAYNE, UH, DOWNTOWN, UH, MORE FREQUENTLY HERE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

HE'S OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND CRIME PREVENTION OFFICER.

UH, IT'S BEEN REALLY WELL RECEIVED.

UH, BUT TO BE CLEAR, RANDY IS NOT, UH, UH, A TRADITIONAL CALL TAKING POLICE OFFICER.

HE'S THE CRIME PREVENTION AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS OFFICER.

SO HE HAS A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, UM, THAT HIS JOB IS FOCUSED ON.

UH, WE'RE JUST USING HIM TO KIND OF PILOT OUT, UH, WHAT THAT PRESENCE LOOKS LIKE AND, AND HOW WELL IT'S BEEN RECEIVED.

AND I THINK IT'S BEEN POSITIVE.

UH, BUT AS WE GO FORWARD OVER THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, UH, WITH THE COMPLETION OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, THINGS AND THE INCREASE IN, IN THE, UH, NIGHTLIFE ENTERTAINMENT AREA,

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UH, THEN WE PROBABLY WILL NEED TO BE, UH, DEDICATING MORE RESOURCES DOWN HERE.

AND SO WE NEED TO TALK THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, AND THEN AGAIN, UH, THE, THE AREA EAST OF COLTRANE IS A LARGER EXPANSE, AND SO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, WE, WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY, AND I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO CARVE OUT ARCADIA LAKE IN THE SURROUNDING PARKS AS KIND OF A STANDALONE, UH, BECAUSE WE EXPECT THOSE OFFICERS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, CAPABILITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATING OUR BOATS AND, UH, AND THE LAWS THAT WE WANT TO APPLY OUT THERE AND HOW WE WANT 'EM TO BE APPLIED.

UH, SO JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S DIFFERENCES EVEN WITHIN GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF.

ANY QUESTIONS OR AM I NOT TOUCHING ON SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU THINK, NO, WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE OF THIS OR LESS OF THAT? COULD YOU COMMENT, CHIEF, YOU AND I JUST HAD A RECENT DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY TOOLS OR RESOURCES THAT ARE GONNA BE SORT OF, UM, HIGHLIGHTED IN REGARDS TO, UM, PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE RESPONDING TO CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY, UM, WHETHER IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.

AND, AND KIND OF, UM, AS WE, AS WE TEAM WITH OUR CITIZENS, AND NOT JUST HAVE THEM LOOK FOR US TO BE THE SOLUTION, BUT, BUT WE ASK TO PARTNER WITH THEM.

WHAT ARE SOME, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN REGARDS TO THAT? YEAH, THANKS.

AND THANKS FOR THE, THE KIND OF THE TALKING POINTS THERE TOO.

I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PROUDEST OF IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR POLICE OFFICERS TRULY SEE THEMSELVES AS SERVANTS OF THE PUBLIC.

AND SO THEY'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THE PUBLIC.

UH, IN, IN A RECENT MEETING I TOLD SOMEONE, POLICING IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO TO SOMEONE.

IT'S SOMETHING YOU DO WITH THE COMMUNITY YOU SERVE.

AND AND I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD HISTORY, UH, OF THAT IN THIS COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO STAY ENGAGED.

UH, WE'RE NOT AFRAID TO LEARN AS PUBLIC SERVANTS THAT, THAT THE CITIZENS WANT SOMETHING DONE DIFFERENTLY, UH, AND THEN TAKE ACTION TOWARDS THOSE EXPECTATIONS.

UH, BUT TALKING ABOUT THEFTS FROM VEHICLES PARTICULARLY IS AN AREA THAT, THAT WE REALLY NEED.

AND WHEN I SAY WE COLLECTIVELY, UH, NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO, UH, SO WHILE OUR THEFTS FROM CARS, UH, HAVE REALLY HAD NO FURTHER EXPERIENCE ANY OTHER THEFT WE HAD IN TOWN, SO IT'S KINDA LIKE A WAVE, YOU KNOW, IT GOES UP AND DOWN.

WE'RE WITHIN THE STANDARD DEVIATION.

IF YOU, YOU LOOK AT IT, WHAT HAS INCREASED IS WHAT'S BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE CARS.

MM-HMM.

, AND THAT'S FIREARMS. YEAH.

AND SO OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE BASICALLY SEEN A DOUBLING OF THE NUMBER OF FIREARMS STOLEN FROM VEHICLES.

AND SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN.

AND AGAIN, NOT UNIQUE JUST TO EDMOND, THAT'S A CONCERN FOR THE METROPOLITAN AREA IN GENERAL.

UH, AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME CAMPAIGNS WITH OUR, WITH OUR BORDERING TOWNS TO HAVE WE TO TELL 'EM TO NOT LEAVE THEIR WEAPONS IN THEIR CAR.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE, UH, , UH, GOSH.

BUT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UH, IT, SOMETHING'S GOING WRONG 'CAUSE IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN.

MM-HMM.

AND SO WE NEED TO PARTNER TOGETHER TO HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THAT, UH, WITHOUT MAKING PEOPLE, WE'RE TRYING TO INFRINGE UPON THEIR, UH, THEIR RIGHTS TO CARRY FIREARMS. WE JUST WISH THEY WOULD CARRY 'EM INSIDE, RIGHT.

UH, WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THEIR CARS.

UH, BUT, BUT TO THAT POINT, THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER INTO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER THINGS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DOING.

UH, WHAT, WHAT STEPS ARE WE TAKING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON? UH, AND SO IF THERE ARE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE AND WE CAN ADJUST TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.

CHIEF, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE A CRIME FIGHTER AND A PEACE OFFICER, AND THAT'S IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S A, AN IMPORTANT ROLE FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT.

BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW FROM CITIZENS AND NON-CITIZENS, UH, I HEAR ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFERS AT LAKE ARCADIA, THE FRIENDLY FACE, HELPFUL COMFORT.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

'CAUSE I, I MAY BE IN TROUBLE WITH MY BOSS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THIS WHILE I WAS UP HERE.

UH, WE'VE HAD A, UH, SO CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF AND BRAD RAINEY AND PARKS HAVE HAD AN ONGOING DISCUSSION FOR A WHILE ABOUT SERVICE DELIVERY.

UH, AND SPECIFICALLY WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ARCADIA LAKE AND THE SURROUNDING PARKS, BUT I REALLY THINK IT EXPANDS IN, INTO BROADER AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, AND THAT IS, UH, WHAT GAPS ARE THERE IN THE SERVICE WE'RE DELIVERING, AND DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON DELIVERING IT? UH, AND SO SELFISHLY, I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT POLICE OFFICER SERVICE AT LAKE ARCADIA.

UH, YOU KNOW, NOTHING IS BELOW US.

IF IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE CAN DO IT OUT THERE.

BUT IF ANYTHING HISTORY HAS TAUGHT US OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS IS WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO USE OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN AREAS THAT, THAT CAUSE AN UNDUE RUB, UH, BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE, AND THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE LEASED A SPACE FOR TWO WEEKS AND YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR THREE WEEKS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BEST CONTACT PERSON IS A POLICE OFFICER WITH A GUN AND A BADGE TELLING YOU THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE TWO DAYS TOO LONG.

I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T DO THAT.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE, THE BEST COMMUNICATION, UH, FROM A CITY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT POLICE OFFICERS, IT'S A LIMITED RESOURCE.

WE HAVE MANY MILES OF PARK AREA AND TRAILS.

UM, AND IF I LOOK AT THE CRIME TRIANGLE, AND IT TELLS ME ABOUT OFFENDERS AND VICTIMS AND LOCATIONS, THAT ONE OF THE BEST MITIGATORS FOR A LOCATION IS TO HAVE A MANAGER, IS TO HAVE A PERSON THERE WITH A VISUAL PRESENCE.

UH, THAT HELPS REALLY DIMINISH OPPORTUNITIES FOR CRIME.

MM-HMM.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS, AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO HIRE ENOUGH TO HAVE THE LEVEL OF PRESENCE YOU MIGHT NEED ALONG TRAILS OR IN RECREATIONAL AREAS WHERE ENJOYING THE BEACH.

UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CITY COULDN'T BENEFIT FROM HAVING SOMETHING, HAVING SOME PRESENCE THERE.

THE PARK STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THAT, UH, LEVEL OF, UH, STAFFING EITHER.

EVEN IF THEY DID, THEY'RE NOT REALLY INTO THAT QUASI ENFORCEMENT AREA THAT MIGHT NEED, UH, TO EXIST.

UH, SO WE JUST HAD THIS ONGOING DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT SERVICE LEVEL LOOK LIKE? UH, AND SO WE'VE RECENTLY ASKED, UH, NICOLE OFFIT, UH, WITH PARKS AND THEN PAUL PHILLIPS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO RUNS OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AND OUR LAKE PATROL, UH, RESOURCES TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT, HEY, WHERE ARE THE SERVICE GAPS? AND IF YOU COULD DEVELOP A JOB SPEC, WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THAT HAS LED US IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

UH, WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT OKLAHOMA CITY'S AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, UH, THAT THEY USE IN SOME OF THEIR PUBLIC VENUES.

YOU MIGHT SEE 'EM, IF YOU GO TO AN OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER GAME, UH, YOU MIGHT SEE 'EM IN THEIR BRICKTOWN AREA AT ENTERTAINMENT TIMES.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL WAYS, UH, TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE CITY.

UH, IT MAY, IT MAY HAVE A POLICE KIND OF FEEL TO IT.

IT MAY NOT.

UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN WHAT BEST SERVES THE CITIZENRY, UH, AT, AT A, AGAIN, A SUSTAINABLE, UH, LEVEL.

SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I'M TELLING YOU WHAT THE, THE WEATHER CAME UP FAST WHEN WE WERE ON THE LAKE ONE DAY AND WE WERE UNABLE TO UNLOAD THE BOAT AT A CERTAIN DOCK.

IT WAS JUST TOO WINDY.

IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS.

UM, SO I DROPPED MY HUSBAND OFF AT ANOTHER DOCK AND HE JUST STARTED WALKING.

WELL, IT'S A LONG WALK FROM ONE PARK TO ANOTHER, ESPECIALLY GOING THROUGH ALL THOSE TRAILS.

AN OFFICER CAME UP, HE TOOK HIM FROM ONE PARK TO THE OTHER TO GET THE TRAILER TO BRING IT BACK.

HE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

I'M SURE HE WAS BUSY DOING OTHER THINGS.

HOWEVER, HE DID TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT, AND THAT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE.

MM-HMM.

, I APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL SHARE THIS COMMENT AND THEN I'LL BE QUIET.

SO, SO WHEN I FIRST STARTED TO WORK HERE, I WAS DOING A RIDE ALONG WITH THE CAPTAIN, AND, AND I WAS COMMENTING ON, UH, SIMILAR TO THE COMMENTS YOU YOU'VE OFFERED OF, UH, HOW IMPRESSED I WAS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE VERY COURTEOUS AND ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE CAPTAIN WAS REALLY QUICK TO SAY IS YES, THAT'S TRUE, BUT YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THEY'RE REFLECTING HOW THE COMMUNITY ENGAGES WITH THEM, THAT THE COMMUNITY IS HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE, THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY AND SPECIFICALLY THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND THAT EVERYWHERE.

UH, BUT IT'S THAT RELATIONSHIP I THINK THAT YOU'RE SEEING MANIFESTED IN THE OFFICERS WHEN YOU SEE 'EM DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM.

, IT'S 'CAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY REALLY DOES SUPPORT 'EM.

UH, AND, AND SO THEY WANT, THEY WANNA PAY IT BACK.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S MANY FOLKS THAT YOU COULD FIND, IF ANY, THAT DON'T SUPPORT OUR POLICE FIRE.

YEAH.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD SITUATION.

MM-HMM.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE A, UH, I DO, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE.

I I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO POLICING HERE, BECAUSE THAT HAS CHANGED.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND EVOLVE.

UH, THE CRIME HAS CONTINUED TO CHANGE.

AND RIGHT NOW, CRIMINALS SEEM TO HAVE THIS MENTALITY CATCH ME OR STOP ME IF YOU CAN MM-HMM.

.

AND SO IN YOUR EVALUATIONS OF WHAT PRESENCE IS THERE, UH, HOPEFULLY WE KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE IF THEY KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T STOP ME, THEY KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T CATCH ME, THEY'RE GONNA KEEP DOING IT.

BUT IF THEY KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING, RIGHT.

BUT SO THE THING IS, IS HOW DO WE TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO A, UH, ACCOUNT BECAUSE, UH MM-HMM.

IT IS NECESSARY.

AND I DID WANT TO, I DID WANNA SAY A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FROM THE DRONE PROGRAM.

I WAS IN A LARGER CITY THE OTHER DAY AND THEY HAD, THEY BROUGHT OUT THEIR DRONES AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, WHY, WHY DO, WHY DO YOU HAVE DRONES HERE? HE SAID, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE CROWD HERE.

WE CANNOT COVER THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT'S HERE.

WE'RE GONNA SEND THEM DOWN RANGE AND COME BACK UP SO WE CAN SEE KEEP A MM-HMM.

A FLAVOR OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO WE CAN CONCENTRATE MANPOWER HERE WHERE WE NEED IT, BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER AREAS.

I THINK IT DETOURS NAUGHTINESS TOO, DON'T YOU? HOPEFULLY.

I THINK ANYTIME THERE'S A PRESENCE, IT'S A BENEFIT TO US.

A PRESENCE.

YEAH.

A PRESENCE BENEFITS US.

JUST LIKE YOU SAID, EVEN IF IT'S NOT POLICE STAFF, IF IT'S CITY

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STAFF A PRESENCE, IF YOU KNOW THERE'S A PRESENCE, YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO, I HOPE BE NAUGHTY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? CHIEF, YOU, UM, THE COUNCIL, UM, APPROVED A NEW THREE YEAR CONTRACT.

THEY DID SOME THINGS AROUND BENEFITS, RECRUITMENT, RETENTION.

UM, WHAT'S YOUR FEELING AS TO YOUR ABILITY, UH, TO ATTRACT AND RECRUIT THE WORKFORCE THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED? AND HOW DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE NOW LINING UP AS FAR AS YOUR OKLAHOMA PEERS? I THINK WE'VE BEEN COMPETITIVE IN THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO COUNCIL'S MOST RECENT ACTION JUST CONTINUE THAT.

I THINK IT'S JUST GREATER EVIDENCE OF THAT COMMUNITY CONNECTION THAT I TALKED ABOUT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EMBARRASSED.

WE'RE DOING RECRUITING IS TO TELL 'EM, HEY, LOOK AT HOW OUR COMMUNITY TREATS US AND THE SUPPORT THEY HAVE FOR US.

AND SO I REALLY THINK THAT PUTS US IN AN ADVANTAGEOUS SITUATION, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO RECRUITING FROM A LIMITED TALENT POOL.

UH, I WAS READING A STUDY THIS MORNING.

IT WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, HEALTHCARE WORKERS, TEACHERS AND THEN, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY ARE THREE AREAS THAT HAVE REALLY HAD A CHALLENGE OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST POLICE, BUT WITHIN THAT REALM TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO THE SUPPORT WE HAVE FROM COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THE UNIQUE BENEFITS.

MM-HMM.

, UH, SO SOME OF THE RECENT STUFF THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT'S NOT EVERYWHERE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO BEING INNOVATIVE, UH, I I THINK REALLY PUTS US IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION, UH, TO RECRUIT AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, WE'VE HAD LESS OF AN IMPACT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS SHORTAGE NATIONWIDE, BUT WE'VE HAD AN IMPACT.

AND SO IT'S HERE TOO.

AND SO, UH, ALL THE TOOLS THAT YOU PROVIDE US THAT WAY REALLY, REALLY PUT US, UH, IN A GOOD SITUATION TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND COMMUNICATE WHY SOMEONE MIGHT BE A, WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.

MM-HMM.

GOOD.

AND THEN FINAL QUESTION, THE MAYOR GAVE ME A THOUGHT, IF THERE'S THIS MENTALITY OF CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, AS CITIZENS WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED AS OTHER STATES HAVE AROUND HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, BE COMPASSIONATE WHILE STILL DOING ENFORCEMENT? UM, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS NOW, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS FAR AS HOW LAWS HAVE SHIFTED IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AS FAR AS CRIME PREVENTION, UM, THAT HAVE HAD A NET NEGATIVE.

ARE WE HITTING WHERE WE KIND, ARE WE KIND OF ABOUT THE SAME IN OUR COMMUNITY? OR IS IT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE QUESTION I'M ASKING, WE'VE KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, SOME OF OUR, OUR, OUR, UH, THRESHOLDS AS FAR AS THAT.

AND IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU STATISTICALLY AS FAR AS CRIME, UH, FOR, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE PRETTY MUCH STAY STATIC.

UH, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, IT'S LIKE A WAVE.

IT'S UP SOME YEARS DOWN, OTHERS, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD DRAMATIC INCREASES.

UH, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NORMAL.

AND WHEN I SAY NORMAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT STATISTICALLY NORMAL.

WE WE'RE NOT OUTSIDE OF DEVIATION.

SO THAT'S A POSITIVE.

UH, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A CHANGE, UH, I THINK CULTURALLY, NOT JUST IN EDMOND, UH, BUT, BUT REGARDING CRIME, AND I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL VARI VARIABLES FROM THAT.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE REFER TO SEVEN 80 AND 7 81 HAVING AN IMPACT ON LARCENIES.

UH, AND I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THE EARLY DATA, SO THAT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS SINCE THAT'S BEEN IN PLAY, HAS SHOWED SOME INCREASE IN RECIDIVISM, UH, BUT NOT NECESSARILY INCREASING THE TOTAL.

AND SO MAYBE FEWER PEOPLE COMMITTING THE CRIME, BUT MORE OF THE CRIME, MORE OF THE PEOPLE COMMITTING MORE CRIMES, UH, OR THE SAME PEOPLE COMMITTING MORE CRIMES.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME COMPETING DATA THERE.

UH, BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, I, I THINK FOR US TO CONTINUE TO BE AWARE OF, OF HOW THE LAWS ARE IMPACTING US, UH, LETTING THE DATA INFORM OUR DECISIONS, UH, AND NOT BEING EMOTIONAL IN OUR RESPONSE TO THAT.

UH, THE MANAGER AND I TALK FREQUENTLY ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTION EVER PROBLEMS, NOT JUST MORE PEOPLE THAT COULD BE A SOLUTION.

AND TO, AND TO BE HONEST, THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE STAFFING PROPOSALS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND THAT'S JUST A, IN MY OPINION, SO WE DON'T WAKE UP FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND FIGURE OUT WE'RE BEHIND AND THEN WE'RE NEVER ABLE TO CATCH UP.

MM-HMM.

, UH, THAT'S A POSITION WE CAN'T GET INTO.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE, UH, KIND OF FORWARD LOOKING, UM, IN PLANNING FOR WHAT'S GONNA BE HERE IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS.

UH, BECAUSE THE HIRING PROCESS FOR POLICE OFFICERS IS NOT SIX WEEKS.

UH, IT IS SIX MONTHS AND THEN ANOTHER NINE MONTHS BEFORE THEY'RE OUT.

SO NOW WE'RE TALKING A YEAR AND A HALF, AND THE DAY YOU TELL ME AT JD GET MORE POLICE OFFICERS, AND A YEAR AND A HALF LATER I SHOW UP AND GO, GUESS WHAT? I GOT ONE.

AND THE AGE OF YOUR FORCE, .

RIGHT.

IN THE AGE OF THE FORCE, UH, WELL OVER 25% OF OUR FORCE IS RETIREMENT ELIGIBLE.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, SO AGAIN, YOU TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS AND THE WAY THAT WE TREAT PEOPLE.

UH, TO ME THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN SOMEONE RETIRING AT 20 YEARS AND MAYBE SOMEONE WORKING UNTIL 30 MM-HMM.

.

AND SO THAT 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UH, COMPETENCE, UH, IS HUGE.

AND SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED REALLY EARLY DEPARTURES IN THE PAST, BUT IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE, UH, PEOPLE GO AT 25 INSTEAD OF 30.

SO ALL THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL DO, UH, TO KIND OF SHOW THAT SUPPORT AND, AND MAKE IT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR 'EM TO STAY IS REALLY HELPFUL.

VERY GOOD.

THANK

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YOU.

THANK YOU.

WELL COUNSEL, GET ENOUGH INFORMATION TODAY.

MM-HMM.

, GOOD STUFF.

APPRECIATE CHIEF AND RANDY FOR GIVING US THE UPDATE HERE.

THAT, AND EVERYONE, APPRECIATE EVERYONE ATTENDING, TAKING TIME OUTTA YOUR SCHEDULE, EVEN STAFF AND NON-STAFF FOR BEING HERE.

HAVING SAID THAT, NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'LL CALL THIS SEXUAL WORKSHOP OVER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.