Nov 21, 2023 Planning Commission

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GENTLEMEN, AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE WILL CALL

[1. Call to Order.]

[2. Consideration of Approval of Meeting Minutes: 11/7/2023.]

UM, HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES? AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CHANGES, ADDITIONS, OR DELETIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND AND THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.

[3. Continuance Docket: Items on the continuance docket will be voted on as a group, unless members of the commission or the public request individual action on an item.]

ON THE CONTINUANCE DOCKET, WE HAVE CASE NUMBER SP 23 DASH 0 0 0 1 8 FOR A HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR BOYS RANCH TOWN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE TO CONTINUE THAT TO THE DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 MEETING.

AND I THOUGHT WE HAD TWO THINGS THAT WERE BEING CONTINUED.

THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

DO, UH, I HAVE A MOTION ON THAT ITEM.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, THAT IS MOVED TO DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY VOTE, THREE TO ZERO.

UH, WE HAVE NO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET.

[A. Case #PR23-00015 Public Hearing and Consideration of a Preliminary Plat for Carmel Valley Place to be located north of Sorghum Mill Road, west of Broadway. (Stephen Grimes) (Ward 4)]

STEVEN GRIMES IS THE APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT.

OKAY.

MR. INS, AS YOU SAID, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLATT FOR THREE LOTS AT THE END OF CARMEL PLACE IN OAK TREE, UH, JUST NORTHWEST OF BROADWAY AND SORGHUM MILL ROAD.

UH, THE 2.3 ACRES WAS REZONED LAST MONTH TO A SINGLE FAMILY TO ALLOW FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE NORTH AND SOUTHEAST IS THE OAK TREE GOLF COURSE.

UH, DIRECTLY EAST IS THE RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY.

AND TO THE SOUTHWEST IS THE OAK TREE BLOCK.

THE PLATT FOR OAK TREE BLOCKS, UH, 1 0 9 TO ONE 12.

UH, THE LOTS RANGE IN SIZE FROM 15,000 SQUARE FEET TO 41,500 SQUARE FEET AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE PRIVATE STREET OF, UH, CARMEL VALLEY PLACE.

THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED WITH THE PLATT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF CITY STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SEEING NONE, WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO RELY UPON THE STATEMENTS MADE BY THE CITY? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? IF SO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.

THAT WILL BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER THE 11TH.

[B. Case #SP23-00017 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for Edmond North Self Storage, located on the east side of Thomas Drive, south of Covell Road. (John Birdsell) (Ward 1)]

JOHN ELL IS THE APPLICANT AND IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT MR. S? OKAY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN FOR THE EXPANSION OF A SELF STORAGE FACILITY ON THOMAS DRIVE, UH, DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE EXISTING EDMOND NORTH SELF STORAGE.

UH, THE SITE IS ZONED F ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH ALLOWS THE USE.

UH, THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES FOUR NEW BUILDINGS, UH, RANGING IN SIZE FROM 6,750 SQUARE FEET TO 11,250 SQUARE FEET.

UH, AND THE EXTERIOR WILL BE A MIX OF BRICK VENEER AND METAL PANELS.

UH, A NEW GATED DRIVE WILL SERVE THE SITE AND WILL BE LINED UP WITH OREGON TRAIL, UH, BACK TO THE WEST ACROSS THOMAS DRIVE.

UH, PARKING AND CROSS ACCESS EASEMENTS WILL, UH, BE SHARED WITH THE EXISTING LOT TO THE NORTH.

NO VARIANCES ARE BEING REQUESTED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

DO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF CITY STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UH, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD ANYTHING? WOULD YOU LIKE TO RELY UP UPON THE STATEMENTS MADE BY THE CITY ON YOUR BEHALF? HE COVERED IT VERY WELL.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? SEE NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? AND IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND.

UH, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO AND

[C. Case #SP23-00021 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for Saints Boulevard Office Building, located on the east side of Saints Boulevard, north of East 2nd Street. (Wallace Design Collective) (Ward 2) ]

THAT BRINGS US TO THE THIRD ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ON THE DISCUSSION DOCKET CASE NUMBER S SP 23 DASH 0 0 0 21

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WALLACE DESIGN COLLECTIVE IS THE APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SIR.

MR. ANTS.

OKAY.

APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW AN OFFICE BUILDING, UH, WITH A RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON SAINTS BOULEVARD, UH, NORTH OF EAST SECOND STREET, SOUTH OF THE ARBOR CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE SITE IS, THE SITE IS ZONED AS APUD, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE MIXED USE BUILDING IN THIS CASE.

IT'LL BE A MEDICAL OFFICE ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH THE RESIDENCE ABOVE.

ON THE SECOND STORY, UH, THE PLAN INCLUDES AN 11,895 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT IS 32 FEET TALL.

THAT WILL BE BRICK WITH EFIS AND METAL ACCENTS.

UH, THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES 16 PARKING SPACES, UH, THAT ARE CONNECTED TO SAINTS WITH TWO NEW DRIVEWAYS.

UH, THE LANDSCAPING IS COMPLIANT AND NO VARIANCES ARE REQUESTED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTION OF CITY STAFF IN PARTICULAR AT THIS POINT IN TIME? SAY NONE.

WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? NO, SIR.

WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO EITHER SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? UH, DO ANY MEMBER? SO I HAVE ONE COMMENT I GUESS.

YES SIR.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF YES.

AND PROVIDE US WITH YOUR ADDRESS.

SURE.

MY NAME IS BRENT ROCCO.

I LIVE AT 4 7 1 6 FIRST SLATE LANE, WHICH IS IN THE ARBOR CREEK SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS NORTH OF WHERE THIS PROJECT IS.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT ON, UM, A PRINTOUT, UH, MORE SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT THAT WAS ON THE WEBSITE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE.

IN PARAGRAPH 12, IT SAYS, A PUBLIC SIDEWALK WILL BE INSTALLED FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH EXTENTS OF THE PRO PARKING LOT WITH A POTENTIAL FUTURE PHASE CONTINUING THE SIDEWALK TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.

I'D ASK THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER MAKING SURE THAT THAT SIDEWALK BE EXTENDED THE FULL LENGTH OF SAINTS FOR THAT PROPERTY LINE.

UM, IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I DON'T KNOW THE NAMES OR THE DATES, BUT RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE CONTACTED, UH, THE CITY OF EDMOND AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WHEN WE'VE ASKED ABOUT IF THERE'S GONNA BE SIDEWALKS, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WHEN THAT PROPERTIES, THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED, SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED.

UM, WE'RE ALREADY ADDING TWO MORE SUBDIVISIONS AND WE'RE CONNECTING TO DANFORTH CROSSINGS, UH, SAFETY OF HOMEOWNERS THAT WALK AND JOG.

UM, EVEN OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN SCHOOL KIDS THAT, UM, FOR THEIR CROSS COUNTRY TEAM USE SAINTS TO JOG ON.

THE FASTER I THINK THAT WE CAN GET, UM, A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK, THE SAFER IT'LL BE FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE WE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE.

HI, UH, MY NAME'S DREW HOPKINS AND I LIVE IN ARBOR CREEK.

UH, MOVED THERE IN 2013 OR 15, I BELIEVE.

UM, MY HOME IS THIS ONE RIGHT THERE.

AND SO OUR BACKYARD, JUST THE, THE LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THAT I CAN GIVE IS I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY ANOTHER HOME IN ARBOR CREEK.

UM, THAT WAS FURTHER TO THE RIGHT.

UM, THAT IS I BELIEVE THE LAND OF THE KNIGHTS OF THE COLUMBUS.

AND THEN IN TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAD HELPED BUILD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS LAND WAS ALREADY PURCHASED BEHIND THIS HOUSE AND IT WORKED OUT JUST PERFECT BEFORE I COULD WHERE I COULD BUY THIS.

UM, THE MAIN THING THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS THE TREE ROW THAT'S BEHIND THAT HOUSE.

UM, IF WE LOSE ANY OF THESE TREES, WE WERE REALLY OKAY WITH.

WE, WE KNOW WE DON'T OWN THAT LAND AND WE PROBABLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY IT.

UM, BUT TO HAVE MAYBE AN OFFICE COMPLEX SINGLE FLOOR, UM, THAT'S CLOSING AT A CERTAIN TIME AT WHERE THIS IS, IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND IF IT'S TWO FLOORS TO KEEP THAT ESTABLISHED TREE ROW.

AND I KNOW THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ON ONE OF THE SEND OUTS WAS THAT THE FORESTRY COMMISSION WAS GOING TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE KEEP A LOT OF THAT TREES.

I WOULD REALLY, UH, JUST, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP ALL THE TREES THERE TO KEEP A SEPARATION IF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN IF IT ALSO IS HALF OFFICE, HALF RESIDENTIAL AND THERE IS ANY SORT OF LIGHT POLLUTION FROM IT, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BARRIER TO BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT.

UM, AND LASTLY, IF THIS IS RESIDENTIAL ON THE TOP, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THIS IS BROKEN OUT, IT, IT WOULD LOOK DIRECTLY INTO THE BACK OF MY HOUSE, OUR, AND THREE OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND SO I'D JUST LIKE TO BE THAT, UH, HAVE THAT CONSIDERED AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

MS. AND I BELIEVE WE HAD ANOTHER COUPLE THAT WAS WANTING.

MY NAME IS VINCE LAWRENCE AND I ACTUALLY LIVE IN ARBOR CREEK AS WELL.

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WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT STARTED, THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS IT WAS STARTED WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION FROM THE CITY TO BEGIN WITH.

I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH ANY CONSTRUCTION IN THAT LOCATION DUE IN PART TO THE HEIGHT AND ALSO HOW IT'S GOING TO ENCROACH ON THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND US THAT JUST SPOKE.

UM, THE TREES ARE A BIG DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S BEEN NEW MARKINGS THAT WERE FOUND TODAY THAT ALL OF THOSE TREES ARE GONNA BE REMOVED.

WE WOULD NEED CLARIFICATION NUMBER ONE OF THAT.

BUT I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING BUILT THERE IN A HIGH STRUCTURE OTHER THAN A SINGLE STORY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. ORSON.

AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, IDENTIFY YOURSELF, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ISSUE REGARDING POTENTIALLY, UH, UH, IS, UH, ARE YOU ALL WILLING TO POTENTIALLY GO AHEAD AND PUT THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? UH, AND THEN ISSUE, IT SOUNDS LIKE PRIMARILY IT'S THE TREES AND, UH, WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY MOTIVATION TO GO AHEAD AND CUT THE TOP OFF THE BUILDING.

YES.

PERVY PATEL WITH WALLACE DESIGN COLLECTIVE, UM, ADDRESS IS FOUR 10 NORTH WALNUT IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

SO I'LL ADDRESS THE SIDEWALK.

WE'VE MET WITH CITY STAFF ON THIS AND THE INTENTION IS TO COME AND PUT A SECOND BUILDING ON THE SOUTH PORTION.

AND DUE TO SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS GRADING, WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THE SIDEWALK TO REMAIN AS PROPOSED.

BUT IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES A MOTION TO INSTALL THAT SIDEWALK, WE WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS OR MOTION.

AS FAR AS THE TREES GO, WE HAVE A 70 FOOT, UM, BUFFER FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THE EXISTING TREE LINE WILL REMAIN.

WE'RE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL TREES WHERE THERE ARE NO TREES CURRENTLY.

SO WE ARE PROVIDING THE BUFFER AND THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS, THIS IS GONNA BE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, AN ORTHOPEDIC DOCTOR.

IT'S JUST A CLINIC, IT'S NOT A SURGERY CENTER.

AND HIS FAMILY WILL BE LIVING ABOVE THIS CLINIC.

SO IT'S NOT FOR RENT, IT WILL BE THE PROPERTY OWNER STAYING ON IN THAT RESIDENCE.

OKAY.

UM, IN REGARD TO THE ISSUE OF THE SIDEWALK FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, WOULD IT BE DETRIMENTAL TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR WOULD IT BE BETTER TO GO AHEAD AND ADD IT WHEN THE SECOND STRUCTURE IS BROUGHT IN THERE? SO, UM, TYPICALLY THE SECOND STRUCTURE, JUST TO KEEP THE, TO DESTROY IT AND REPLACE IT WHEN THE SECOND STRUCTURE'S CONSTRUCTED.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE OR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED OUT WITH THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, THIS IS CURRENTLY ONE LOT.

YES.

'CAUSE WOULDN'T, IF IT WAS SPLIT INTO TWO LOTS, DOESN'T THAT ALLEVIATE THE REQUIREMENT? 'CAUSE YOU JUST GO TO YOUR LOT EDGE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT BLURRED BECAUSE IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL WITH IT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS FOR SIDEWALKS VERSUS COMMERCIAL, BUT EITHER WAY YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SIDEWALK.

I ACTUALLY LOT SPLIT ANYWAY.

IT IS CURRENT.

IT'S BUILDING, IT IS CURRENTLY ONE LOT.

UH, IT'S ZONED E ONE PUD.

SO THEY COULD DO A SECOND BUILDING ON THERE WITH IT REMAINING ONE.

I GUESS THEY COULD, BUT I GUESS YOU, IT HAS TO BE THE SAME OWNER.

YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO BANK GONNA DO FINANCING UNLESS IT'S SPLIT, SO, OKAY.

THEY, THEY COULD SPLIT IT IN THE FUTURE FOR SURE, AND IT BECOMES A SEPARATE LOCK.

SO, UH, QUICK QUESTION.

COULD YOU ADDRESS HIS COMMENTS REGARDING THE, UH, TREES BEING MARKED? IS THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE? IS THAT FOR DESTRUCTION OR, UH, BEING, UH, ELIMINATING THOSE TREES ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE? THEY, THEY MAY, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH YEAH, THE TREES MARK MAY HAVE BEEN WHEN, UM, FOR THE TREE STUDY WE HAD TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY OF EDMOND AND MAYBE MARK THE LIMITS OF, UM, CONSTRUCTION.

BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.

THERE IS NO WORK BEING DONE ON THE SITE.

DO ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? IF THE APPLICANT, OKAY, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO I DON'T SEE WHERE'S THE SIDEWALK ON THIS SKETCH? IS THIS TO THIS TO THE ENTRANCE THERE? DO YOU HAVE THE SITE PLAN YOU COULD PULL UP? YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE THIS.

THAT'S THE GRAY AREA, RIGHT? OKAY.

SO IT'S ALONG SAINTS BOULEVARD AND THEN IT HAS A SWITCHBACK TO PROVIDE ADA ACCESS TO THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER GENERAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

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SECOND I.

OKAY.

THAT PROJECT IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO AND THAT FINISHES HERE TONIGHT.

[D. Case #Z23-00018 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “E-1” General Commercial to “PUD Z23-00018” Planned Unit Development, located at 2901 South Broadway. (Todd McKinnis) (Ward 3)]

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 29 0 1 SOUTH BROADWAY AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT MR. HINTS.

OKAY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM E ONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO PUD ON THE WEST SIDE OF BROADWAY, JUST NORTH OF 30TH STREET.

UH, THE SITE IS, UH, PART OF THE ELWOOD HEIGHTS INDUSTRIAL PLATT AND IS SURROUNDED BY A MIX OF E ONE AND E TWO OPEN DISPLAY COMMERCIAL USES.

UH, THE PUD COVERS ONE LOT THAT IS 17,904 SQUARE FEET.

PUD KEEPS THE E ONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES AND ADDS IN THE VEHICLE.

SALES AND SERVICE USE, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED IN E ONE, BUT IS ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTIES ZONED E TWO SO DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THIS LOT.

UH, THE EDMUND PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS BROADWAY CORRIDOR, WHICH ANTICIPATES COMMERCIAL USES AND AN INCREASE IN INTENSITY OVER TIME.

PUDS ARE IN THE YELLOW, WHICH MEANS THEY COULD BE APPROPRIATE DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT.

UH, IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO ADD THE VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE USE WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE USE WOULD BE INDOORS.

UH, GIVEN THE EXISTING SURROUNDING USES, THE PUD SEEMS TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

UH, DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CITY STAFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? AND WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S TODD MCINNIS.

THAT'S LOUD.

UH, REPRESENT THE APPLICANT TONIGHT.

THE, THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS MY CLIENT, UH, HAS A COUPLE CAR DEALERSHIPS FURTHER TO THE SOUTH ON BROADWAY AND THEY DO SPRINTER VAN SERVICE AND THEY'RE OVERLOADED WITH THE ABILITY TO SERVICE THE VEHICLES.

AND SO THEY HAVE THIS BUILDING IN CONTRACT FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING A PRIVATE REPAIR FACILITY, UH, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE VEHICLES AT THE SPRINTER VAN PLACE DOWN BY THE VOLVO, MERCEDES PLACE, BRING 'EM UP HERE, SERVICE 'EM, TAKE 'EM BACK AND DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC THERE.

SO THE SOLE PURPOSE IS FOR INDOOR SERVICE, BUT THERE'S NOT A DISTINCTION IN THE ZONING THAT DIFFERENTIATES VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE.

AND SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE.

THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE APPLICATION, THAT'S WHY WE USED APUD FOR THE VEHICLE TO DO THAT, NO PUN INTENDED.

UM, AND SO THE IDEA THAT THERE'S ACRES AND ACRES OF E TWO ACROSS THE STREET AND TO THE SOUTH KIND OF MADE IT SEEM LIKE THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE USE.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT AT THIS FACILITY, WHICH DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO FURTHER CONDENSE OUR REQUEST.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IN REGARD TO THE ISSUE OF SALES, THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE LIMITED? I'D BE WILLING TO LIMIT THE PUD TO ANY TYPE OF SALES BEING INDOOR SALES.

I KNOW I HAD, THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD ASKED, UH, STAFF EARLIER BECAUSE AFTER LOOKING AT IT, I'M AWARE THAT THE CAR LOT IS THERE.

AND WHEN I SAW THAT CORNER, IT JUST, I KNOW IT KIND SPEAKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA JOIN THOSE TOGETHER AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN THAT THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION.

I GOT A EMAIL FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT EARLIER TODAY, AND I CALLED MY CLIENT TO ASK 'EM THAT QUESTION.

I DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM 'EM BEFORE TONIGHT, BUT I WILL ASK THEM.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE OPPOSED TO THAT, THAT WASN'T A DESIRE TO HAVE A OUTDOOR SALES FACILITY.

UH, LIKE SOMEBODY SAID A MINUTE AGO, I, I HOPE THEY USE THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT THEM TO SELL IT THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND THEN DO THE THING THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT.

SO I COMMITTED TO, WELL, I'LL COMMIT TO YOU THAT I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER AND I'LL REPORT IT BACK BEFORE WE GET TO CITY COUNCIL.

WE'RE ON A PRETTY SHORT SCHEDULE 'CAUSE OF A CLOSING REQUIREMENT OF DECEMBER 11TH AT CITY COUNCIL.

SO I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND IF THEY WILL, I'LL CERTAINLY COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF.

BUT, OKAY.

SO, UH, BASED UPON TIMING, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD ASK THIS TO JUST BE CONTINUED OVER SO WE WOULD HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO OUR MEETING.

I DON'T, BECAUSE I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A DUE DILIGENCE CLOSING DEADLINE OF THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THE ONLY MEETING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS, IT'S DECEMBER 11TH, FOUR 11TH IN DEC IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY WE ARE, I MEAN, I'LL BE, I'LL BE, AND YOU KNOW ME, BUT I'LL COMMUNICATE TO THE COUNCIL IF THEY DON'T, THAT THAT WAS A CONDITION TO THE REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I'M SURE RANDY WILL AS WELL.

SO IF IT'S THREE TO ZERO OR TWO TO ONE, THAT'S GONNA BE A COMMUNICATION THAT'LL TAKE PLACE.

OKAY.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, 'CAUSE I I I, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT MY CONCERN IS, AND I, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT, BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO CITY.

FAIR ENOUGH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT WISH TO ASK THE APPLICANT ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YEAH, JUST A QUESTION ON THE, UH, THE CARS THAT ARE IN SERVICE.

UM, I, I DOUBT THERE'S GONNA BE

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THE CARS ARE ON BLOCKS OR THE HOODS ARE UP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IS IT ALL GONNA BE STORED INSIDE OR IN THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, RANDY ASKED ME THAT QUESTION EARLIER TODAY.

SO THE ONLY CARS THAT'LL BE PARKED WILL BE THE ONES WAITING FOR SERVICE OR THE ONES THAT ARE WAITING TO BE DELIVERED BACK TO THE MERCEDES DEALERSHIP.

SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ACTIVITY VISIBLE OR OTHERWISE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING WHEN IT COMES TO SERVICE.

THANK YOU, MR. MCINNIS.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE COME FORWARD, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND PROVIDE US WITH YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS RICK RUSSELL, UH, PROPERTY OWNER AT 28 0 5 SOUTH BROADWAY, TWO DOORS TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.

UH, MY CONCERN WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

UH, THE PROPERTY COULD BE SOLD LATER AND IF YOU ALLOWED IT TO, UH, HAVE VEHICLE SALES, THAT COULD OPEN UP A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES FOR SOMEONE.

I THOUGHT THE CITY WAS TRYING TO CURTAIL THAT USE.

AND IF THERE'S A, UH, SOUNDS LIKE IF THERE'S A, A NOMENCLATURE ISSUE WITH HOW IT'S GONNA BE USED, THAT THAT'S A, A PROBLEM THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE RESOLVED.

OKAY.

UH, ALSO WORRIED ABOUT, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE WAY IT'S ZONED NOW TO CHANGE THIS OR THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY WANTED TO GO IN.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO OUR PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MR. RUSSELL UHHUH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? NO.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, I'LL, I'LL MAKE ONE AND I, I THINK I WAS SORT OF CLEAR EARLIER, AND I CERTAINLY BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO FORWARD, BUT AS THE, UH, PLAN IS, OR THE, UH, ITEM DIRECTLY AS IT IS DRAFTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

BUT AGAIN, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET THAT RESOLVED BEFORE YOU GET TO CITY COUNCIL AND, AND, UH, THEY'LL HEAR WHAT, UH, MY VIEWPOINT IS AND WE'LL SEE EVERYTHING GOES.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

UH, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED OR ACTUALLY FAILS BY A VOTE OF TWO TO ONE, AND IT WILL BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER THE 11TH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE

[E. Case #Z23-00015 Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “G-A” General Agriculture and “PUD” Planned Unit Development to “PUD” Planned Unit Development for Liberty Park East, located both northwest and southwest of Coffee Creek and Sooner. (Halff Associates) (Ward 2) ]

THANK YOU.

UH, BRINGS US TO THE NEXT ITEM, CASE NUMBER Z 23 DASH 0 0 0 15 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURAL AND PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR LIBERTY.

LIBERTY PARK EAST, LOCATED BOTH NORTHWEST AND SOUTHWEST OF COFFEE CREEK.

AND SOONER, HALF AN ASSOCIATES ARE THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

OKAY, AS YOU SAID, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, REQUESTING A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO APUD THAT WOULD ALLOW A MIX OF HOUSING STYLES AND COMMERCIAL USES ON THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COFFEE CREEK AND CUNA ROADS.

UH, THE AREA IS 317 ACRES AND IS DIRECTLY EAST OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LIBERTY PARK, PUD.

UH, THIS PUD IS VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THAT ONE.

UH, THE PUD HAS FOUR TRACKS.

UH, TRACK ONE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHWEST PORTION IS 36 ACRES.

IT'S, UH, PROPOSING 122 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UH, CONSISTING OF TOWN HOMES AND VILLAS AT, UH, DENSITY NO GREATER THAN 12 UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, TRACK TWO IS SOUTH OF COFFEE CREEK AT 77 ACRES, 263 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UH, ALMOST 370,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, UH, WITH THE DENSITY OF 16 UNITS PER ACRE.

TRACK THREE, UH, 70 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COFFEE CREEK IS, UH, SHOWS 230 MIXED RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND 26 COMMERCIAL LOTS LIMITED, UH, TO, UH, 228,000 SQUARE FEET AND A DENSITY OF 16 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND THEN TRACK FOUR, WHICH IS THE NORTHERN MUS TRACK.

UH, IT'S 80 ACRES WITH 248 RESIDENTIAL UNITS OF DIFFERENT TYPES, UH, AT 12 UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, THE PUD ADJUST MINIMUM LOT SIZES AND MINIMUM SETBACKS TO ALLOW FOR MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, PED ALSO ADJUSTS SEVERAL STANDARDS RELATED TO STREETS TO MAKE THEM SAFER FOR ALL USERS.

THE EDDEN PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS MIXED USE CAMPUS, WHICH ANTICIPATES A VARIETY OF USES INCLUDING DIFFERENT HOUSING STYLES, OFFICE USES, AND COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THE PED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT ALSO WOULD LIKE

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THANK YOU.

JONATHAN HEISEL, HALF ASSOCIATES.

UM, ONE 11.

1111 NORTH LEE AVENUE, SUITE 900 OR 400 IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

UH, LIBERTY PARK EAST IS AGAIN, A, UH, MISUSE DEVELOPMENT IN, IN LINE WITH THE, UH, THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND IT, UH, HAS A VARIETY OF HOUSING AND, AND TIGHT STREETS AND, AND, UH, INTERESTING, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALLEYS AND DIFFERENT MIXED USE OF, OF, UH, PROPERTIES, UM, HERE IN THIS AREA BETWEEN, UH, COLTRANE AND, AND SOONER ROAD.

UM, SOME EXISTING ISSUES OR SOME EXISTING, UM, WELL, SITES ARE IN, IN THIS, IN THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT ANTICIPATE TO BE, UM, OUTTA SERVICE IN 10, 10 YEARS OR SO.

BUT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CURRENTLY THERE NOW.

WE DID HAVE A CHARETTE, UH, BACK IN JULY OF 22.

A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT EDMOND HAS NOW AND THEN WHAT EDMOND THEY WANTED IN THE FUTURE.

UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS KIND OF WHOLE AREA AS WE, AS WE LOOKED AT IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT, BIG IDEAS THAT THEY HAD BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UH, BE ATTRACTIVE, VIBRANT CITY, UH, UH, NEW CENTERS, UH, SAFE AND COMFORTABLE, INTERESTING STREETS, UM, ACCESS TO THE, THE BIKE, UH, BIKE LANES OR, OR BIKE ROUTES.

THEN TRAILS THAT, UH, GO WILL CON CONTINUE ALL THE WAY TO, UM, OUR PLAN TO GO ALL THE WAY TO ARCADIA LAKE.

UM, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE INTERESTING, SEVERAL STORIES, UM, MIXED USE, UM, LIVE WORK UNITS, UM, PLAZAS AND, AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME DIFFERENT, UH, TO TOPO TOPOGRAPHY TO, TO DEAL WITH HOMES THAT ARE INTERESTING AND, AND, UH, UH, HAVE LITTLE COURTYARDS AND MAYBE IN BETWEEN 'EM AND, AND A DIFFERENT MIX OF, OF HOUSING AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF STREETS.

SO NOT ALL THE STREETS ARE THE SAME.

THEY, UH, ANTICIPATE BIKES AND, AND PEDESTRIANS AND REALLY ARE CREATE A, A BEAUTIFUL STREETS WITH, WITH TREELINE STREETS, UH, IN BETWEEN THE CURBS AND THE SIDEWALKS FOR, FOR SAFETY AND PROTECTION.

UM, EVEN MAYBE POSSIBLY SOME WOUNDERS WHERE IT'S A SHARED STREET AND, UH, SOME PARKING, BUT ALSO, UH, PEDESTRIANS.

KIDS CAN PLAY.

BUT UH, ALSO CARS CAN GO THROUGH, UM, INTERESTING INTERSECTIONS, MAYBE TABLETOP INTERSECTIONS TO HELP SLOW TRAFFIC AND MAKE, UH, MAKE EVERYONE VISIBLE AND SAFE.

UM, CURRENTLY THESE ARE USED ALL OVER THE PLACE.

UM, AND, UH, SOME DEVELOP SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN WHERE THEY USE THESE IN MIDBLOCK CROSSINGS AND THINGS TO REALLY HELP CALM TRAFFIC AND, AND KEEP PEOPLE, UH, KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

OTHER ELEMENTS WE ENJOYED WITH, THEY ENJOYED WITH THE COMMON AREAS, HOMES THAT, THAT FACE COMMON AREAS AND, AND HAVE GARAGES IN THE BACK, UM, THINKING CREATIVELY WITH THE TENSION AND HOW IT CAN BE PARK SPACE WHEN IT'S NOT IN, NOT BEING IN FLOOD FLOODPLAIN, UM, AND OTHER WAYS TO HANDLE WATER AND DRAINAGE.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

JONATHAN HEISEL ASSOCIATES.

UH, DO ANY, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. HEISEL, AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE WAY THAT, UH, YOU PRESENTED THIS TO THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, UM, MY WIFE AND I, WE, WE DID GO TO THAT AND JUST LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND WELL RECEIVED.

UM, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT YOUR VARIANCES AND YOUR REASONING BEHIND, UH, MAKING THE STREETS NARROWER PARKING SPACES, NARROWER DRIVEWAY'S, NARROWER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

YEAH, WE'VE SEEN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, NARROWER STREETS CAN, CAN HANDLE THOSE, UM, THOSE, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

WE, WE WORKED ON, WE, UH, WORKED ON WHEELER DISTRICT THERE IN, UH, DOWN OKLAHOMA CITY AREA, BUT THAT, WE'VE SEEN THOSE, THOSE REALLY HELP SLOW, SLOW, THE SPEEDS HELP, UH, MAKE THINGS MORE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE FRIENDLY.

AND SO, UM, SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO AROUND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE, UH, INCORPORATED AS WELL.

UM, JUST A, A DIFFERENT PRIORITY, I GUESS, UH, ON PEDESTRIANS OR PEDESTRIAN AND CARS AND, AND THE, THE DIFFERENT AGE FOLKS BEING ABLE TO, TO USE THE STREETS AND, AND CROSS THE STREETS RATHER THAN, UH, MAKING THINGS REAL WIDE FOR, FOR CARS TO,

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IT'S KIND OF A CORE, IT'S CORREL LARRY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? WELL, LIKE I SAID, THIS, UH, TO ME, UH, THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT.

I'VE BEEN PLACES WHERE THEY'RE DOING THIS MM-HMM AND THE STREETS AND THINGS ARE NARROWER AND, AND, UH, WHEN LOOKING AT IT, I WAS EXCITED TO SEE IT AND WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SEE IT, UH, COME TO FRUITION.

VERY GOOD.

SO, UH, IN SAYING THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES MA'AM.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

UH, MY NAME IS ANGELA GIBSON.

I LIVE IN ON INGHAM COURT, SO THE FAIRFAX GOLF COURSE.

AND I'M RIGHT ON THE LINE WHERE THERE PROPERTY'S GONNA BE, UM, DEVELOPED.

SO I JUST HAD GENERAL QUESTIONS PROBABLY FOR YOU GUYS SINCE I MISSED THE PRESENTATION YOU HAD.

UM, WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY DOING ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL LINES THAT GO? 'CAUSE THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROPERTY.

IT'S AT THE SOUTH END AND WE DIDN'T PLAN ON SO YOU'RE NOT DEVELOPING THAT FAR OUT? NO, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF.

OKAY.

THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? SEEING NONE.

DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, UH, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.

IT'LL BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER THE 11TH.

THAT BRINGS US TO NEW BUSINESS AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY.

AND AS A RESULT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

ALL IN FAVOR? WELL, I GUESS, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TONIGHT, SIR.