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HOW'S EVERYBODY? THIS BEAUTIFUL,
[1. Call to Order.]
BALMY, CLOUDY DAY.TODAY, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE SPECIAL MEETING ORDER FOR THE POLICE CHIEF FOR THE FUTURE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFFING AND TECHNOLOGY WORKSHOP.
I'M NOT GONNA GO IN FRONT OF THE POLICE CHIEF
[2. Presentation and Discussion Regarding Future Police Department Staffing and Use of Technology.]
DIDN'T DO.I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO Y'ALL TODAY ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, AND THAT'S THE, THE PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY WORK FOR YOU AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE THAT'LL WORK FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THE TITLE ON THE, THE SLIDESHOW IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR AGENDA ITEM, JUST 'CAUSE WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND I SUBMITTED THIS BEFORE WE SETTLED ON THAT.
BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF STAFFING AND TECHNOLOGY IN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND REALLY KIND OF FOCUSES ON A, ON A, A TIGHTER LOOK AT THE NEXT, UH, 15 MONTHS AND THEN A LITTLE BIT LOOSER.
UH, IT SHOULD SEEM REAL SIMILAR, UH, TO A PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST YEAR.
AND SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL GET INTO IT.
AND ALONG THE WAY, I'LL TOUCH ON A FEW, UH, POINTS THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU EARLIER.
I'D LIKE TO START PRESENTATIONS, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY POINTING OUT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT A STANDALONE ENTITY.
IT IS MERELY A DEPARTMENT AMONG MANY, UH, THAT WORKS TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND.
AND IN DOING SO, WE DON'T HAVE A VISION OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE TRY TO FOLLOW A VISION OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CITY.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SLIDE, UH, I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU, THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD EACH OF YOU, UH, TALK ABOUT IN INDIVIDUALLY IN PRESENTATIONS, AND THEN COLLECTIVELY FROM THE DIOCESE.
IT IS ABOUT, UH, PLACES YOU CAN BUILD A FOREVER HOME.
UH, IT'S ABOUT SAFETY ON OUR UNIVERSITY CAMPUS.
AND WHILE THEY DO HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, I THINK WE WORK IN A PRETTY GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE CAMPUS AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IS AS SAFE AS IT COULD BE.
UH, IT'S ABOUT HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UH, IT'S ABOUT THE RANKINGS OF EDMOND.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE, UH, MOST RECENT NICHE RANKINGS, UH, WITH US, NUMBER ONE ACROSS THE BOARD IN SEVERAL CATEGORIES.
AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, UH, REALLY SHOULD BE VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS OF HOW DOES IT SUPPORT WHAT EDMOND'S TRYING TO BE, UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, TRUSTWORTHY SERVICE BY PROTECTING CITIZENS' RIGHTS.
UM, IN THE PICTURE YOU SEE THERE, SOME OF Y'ALL ARE IN THAT.
I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD, UH, VISUAL, UH, OF WHAT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE ABOUT.
YES, WE TAKE REPORTS, AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT.
UM, BUT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY JUST EXAMPLES OF THE JUDGMENT, UH, OF OUR OFFICERS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT VISION WE TALKED ABOUT IN TRYING TO PURSUE THAT MISSION IN PROTECTING INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.
AND I THINK YOU SEE IN THAT PICTURE, STAKEHOLDERS FROM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, PERSONNEL, BOTH FIRE POLICE AND OTHERS, UH, PARTNERING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE EDMOND REMAINS WHAT IT IS AND JUST GROWS STRONGER.
SO I'LL GET INTO STAFFING FIRST.
UH, FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW, AND WE WILL TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT LATER WITH SOME NUMBERS, UH, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE 128 AUTHORIZED OFFICER OR SWORN POSITIONS IN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU HAVE, UH, 48 CIVILIAN OR PROFESSIONAL STAFF POSITIONS IN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A TOTAL OF 176 POSITIONS.
UM, WHEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT STAFFING MODELS, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE SWORN STAFFING MODELS.
UH, AND THE REASON I'M PROVIDING THIS BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS I THINK, I THINK EDMONDS POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A LONG STANDING BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITIZENS THEY SERVE.
AND SO WE GET TREMENDOUS SUPPORT, UH, BOTH FINANCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH MANY AVENUES.
UH, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TOUCH ON THAT THAT'S NOT JUST BLIND LOYALTY TO SOME IDEOLOGY THAT REALLY IS A COMMITMENT, UH, TO THE SERVICE THAT THE CITIZENS EXPECT AND THE DELIVERY OF THAT SERVICE.
AND SO IT'S THROUGH HIGH EXPECTATIONS AND THEN PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH MEETING THOSE EXPECTATIONS THAT SUPPORTS AND BUILDS ON THAT, THAT THAT MUTUAL, UH, GOAL, UH, TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO, HOPEFULLY WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO TODAY IS, IS SUPPORT FOR YOU, UH, TO AGREE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY USING A METHODOLOGY.
UH, WE HAVE A SYSTEM, UH, THAT, THAT KIND OF DRIVES THE RESOURCES WE MIGHT NEED TO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE THE LEVEL OF SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY.
SO THE INTERNATIONAL CITY COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, UH, THEY TOUCH ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, STAFFING MODELS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE.
I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, WE CAN LOOK AT CRIME STATS AND USE THAT AS A DRIVER.
UH, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES LOOK AT PER CAPITA, UH,
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RATIOS.UH, SO YOU'LL HEAR HOW MANY OFFICERS PER THOUSAND CITIZENS.
AND WHILE I THINK THAT INFORMATION IS INFORMATIVE, UH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE OVERSIMPLIFIED IN LACKING OF REALLY HOW TO DELIVER A SERVICE.
AND WHAT IT OFFERS IS, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EAST COAST CITIES, YOU'LL SEE RATIOS WELL OVER TWO AND UP INTO THE THREE.
AND KIND OF AS YOU MOVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY TOWARDS THE WEST, YOU'LL SEE THOSE RATIOS BEGIN TO COMPRESS SOME DOWN TO LESS THAN A, AN OFFICER PER THOUSAND.
UH, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE LARGER METROPOLITAN AREAS ON THE WEST COAST, YOU'LL KIND OF SEE IT RISE BACK UP.
AND, AND THE REASON I POINT THAT OUT IS THERE IS NO SINGLE STANDARD.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY, THE SERVICES YOU EXPECT THAT GO INTO THAT.
AND SO I BELIEVE THE, AND THE ICMA DOES TOO, THAT A WORKLOAD BASED ANALYSIS IS REALLY THE, THE MORE APPROPRIATE, UH, TOOL TO USE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION CHIEFS OF POLICE.
UH, THEY OFFER SIMILAR THINGS TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE DECIDING A WORKLOAD ANALYSIS, UH, FROM THE COMPOSITION OF YOUR CITY TO POLICING PHILOSOPHY AND ALL THE THINGS YOU SEE LISTED UP THERE AND MORE.
UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY STILL COME DOWN TO, IT'S A WORKLOAD ANALYSIS.
SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR EXPERIENCE AS A COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE THE STAFFING LEVELS THAT WE WOULD NEED, UH, TO ACHIEVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF RESPONSE OR SERVICE, STRANGELY ENOUGH, WHY THEY USE A DIFFERENT WORDING.
UH, ICMA CALLS THEIRS THE RULE OF 60 GUIDELINES.
UH, IACP LOOKS AT DIVIDING, UH, WORKLOAD INTO THIRDS.
UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY BOTH TALK ABOUT BASICALLY TWO THIRDS, UH, OF YOUR FORCE SHOULD BE UNIFORM PATROL, AND THEIR WORKLOAD SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 60 TO 66% THAT'S CONSUMED WITH THINGS THEY CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM, WHETHER THAT'S A CALL FOR SERVICE, UH, OR SOMETHING THEY SEE THEY HAVE TO RESPOND TO.
AND THAT ADDITIONAL THIRD OF TIME, THAT'S WHERE THAT PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT TAKES PLACE.
SO IN A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS WHERE WE EXPECT POLICE OFFICERS TO BE AVAILABLE, UH, TO GO TO A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION MEETING, OR TO STOP BY A SCHOOL, UH, AND HAVE LUNCH, UH, YOU KNOW, OR TO GET OUT OF A CAR AND TALK TO KIDS AT A SKATE PARK, THAT'S IN THAT THIRD OF TIME.
SO WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT INTO THEIR WORKDAY IF THAT'S TRULY OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR DELIVERY OF SERVICE.
I THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT I'LL TOUCH ON HERE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LATER TOO, IS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AVAILABILITY OF RESOURCES.
AND SO WHEN WE HIRE A PERSON AT 52 WEEKS A YEAR, THAT'S 2080 HOURS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO WORK.
WELL, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SWORN PERSONNEL, THEY AVERAGE 80 HOURS A YEAR TRAINING.
SO THAT'S TWO WEEKS OFF THE BOOKS.
AND OVER TIME, THROUGH LEAVE ACCUMULATION, WHETHER IT BE VACATION COMP TIME, SICK LEAVE HOLIDAYS, UH, OR OTHER LEAVE SAFETY INCENTIVES, SHIFT ADJUSTMENT, THEY REALLY END UP WITH A SHOW UP RATE, WHICH MEANS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY ACTUALLY ARE IN THEIR PRIMARY ASSIGNMENT AND NOT AT A COLLATERAL DUTY OR COLLATERAL TRAINING SOMEWHERE AROUND 70%.
UH, SO IN ESSENCE, IF YOU HIRE THREE OFFICERS, YOU CAN EXPECT TWO OF THE THREE TO BE AT WORK IN PATROL ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
THAT'S NOT TO MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT AT WORK, IT'S JUST THEY'RE NOT IN PATROL IF THEY HAVE A COLLATERAL ASSIGNMENT OR SOME OTHER TRAINING RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, THAT WHEN WE SAY, OH, WE HAVE 128 OFFICERS, WE MAY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE 128 AVAILABLE TO DELIVER SERVICE ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
SO FOCUSING ON A WORK, UH, LOAD ANALYSIS, UH, KIND OF A BASIS FOR OUR STAFFING, AND THEN USING A COMMUNAL AND POLICING MODEL, UH, THAT IS REALLY PRETTY SIMPLE.
AND WHAT I TELL PEOPLE ABOUT COMMUN COMMUNAL AND POLICING, IT'S GOT TWO PARTS, AND THAT'S PARTNERSHIPS AND PROBLEM SOLVING.
SO WE EXPECT THE MEMBERS OF OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD REALLY, BUT PRIMARILY IN THE SWARM POSITIONS, TO FOCUS ON BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, AND THEN WORKING WITH THEM TO ADDRESS ISSUES OR PROBLEMS AS THEY ARISE.
PREFERABLY LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS, NOT SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS ARE, IT'S NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.
UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY, UH, ARE A COMBINATION OF WHAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR OR EXPECTING, AND THEN WHAT I THINK OUR FIVE YEAR BUDGET KIND OF FOCUSES ON.
AND SO UNDER PARTNERSHIPS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT I THINK IS ONE OF OUR MOST VISIBLE PARTNERS, AND THAT'S EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, UH, DOWNTOWN AREA RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
UH, AND I THINK THAT'S RECOGNIZING WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN INVESTING IN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND THEN I'LL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON FEDERAL TASK FORCE WHEN I GET INTO MY PERSONNEL REQUESTS.
UH, AND THEN ON PROBLEM SOLVING, UH, INCREASING SERVICE DEMANDS, EAST DIVIDE 35, AGAIN, AS WE INCREASE DENSITY AND EXPAND POPULATION OUT THERE, UH, EXPECTATIONS CHANGE FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
UH, TRAFFIC CONCERNS, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE BIANNUAL CITIZEN SATISFACTION SURVEY.
IT ROUTINELY SAYS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IN ADMIN IS TRAFFIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE ES, UH, IN TRAFFIC, AND THAT'S ENGINEERING, ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATION.
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CAN PARTICIPATE IN TWO OF THOSE THREE WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION ENFORCEMENT.SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS.
UH, FORCE MULTIPLICATION THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT JUST ABOUT HOW TECHNOLOGY, UH, CAN HELP US, UH, SLOW THE TIDE OF NEEDING ADDITIONAL HUMAN RESOURCES TO ADDRESS ISSUES.
HOW CAN WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT? UM, AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY AND CONTINUITY OF SERVICE.
UH, WELL, LET'S JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
AGAIN, I WON'T HIT EACH ONE OF THESE NUMBERS, AND THEY'RE NOT MEANT, UH, TO BE DIRECTLY SUPPORTIVE OF WHY WE SHOULD HIRE MORE PEOPLE OR WHAT POSITIONS IN, THEY'RE REALLY JUST MEANT FOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, UH, PRIMARILY FOR EDMOND, BUT I INCLUDED NORMAN AND BROKEN ARROW IN THIS 'CAUSE THEY'RE ROUTINELY COMPARABLE, UH, PARTNERS WITHIN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
UH, NOW THERE ARE NUANCES FOR EACH ONE, SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE A ONE-TO-ONE, UH, COMPARISON ALL THE TIME.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AWARE OF KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING, THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE IN.
UH, I TALKED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS.
UH, I WOULD JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT THIRD ROW THERE OFFICERS ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE.
AND YOU SEE THAT 35% OF YOUR SWORN WORKFORCE CAN WALK OUT THE DOOR TODAY.
I, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THEY WON'T.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IS A LIABILITY THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SIR, 35% COULD WALK OUT THE DOOR TODAY.
HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO REPLACE THAT 35%? WELL, WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS FROM THE DAY THE CITY MANAGER TELLS ME, ADD OFFICERS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 18 MONTHS UNTIL ANY OFFICERS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR SOLO ASSIGNMENT.
IT'S ABOUT A FIVE TO SIX MONTH HIRING PROCESS.
AND THEN ONCE THEY START, IT'S A 20 WEEK ACADEMY TRAINING PROCESS, AND THEN IT'S A 14 WEEK FIELD TRAINING PROCESS.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 18 MONTHS FROM GO TO SOLO ASSIGNMENT.
BUT ONE THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IS WE RUN OUR OWN EDUCATIONAL ACADEMY AND IT MAXES OUT AT ABOUT 14 PEOPLE.
AND, AND EVEN THAT, WHILE WE CAN GET 'EM THROUGH AN ACADEMY, 14 PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON OUR FIELD TRAINING SYSTEM.
SO REALLY 10 TO 12 IS OUR SWEET SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO TRAINING SWORN PERSONNEL.
WE CURRENTLY RUN ABOUT AN ACADEMY A YEAR AND INTEND TO DO SO EVERY YEAR FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
BUT WHERE THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT'S 12 A YEAR.
AND SO IF 35 WALK OUT TODAY, 35%, WHICH IS REALLY UP TO 40, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS JUST TO REPLACE THOSE PEOPLE.
THAT'S EXPANSION, NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE POPULATION EXPANSION, THAT'S JUST TO REPLACE THOSE PEOPLE.
AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, WHILE WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE, WE, WE PLAN TO START AN ACADEMY ON FEBRUARY 12TH OF THIS YEAR.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 CANDIDATES THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THAT.
WE ARE ONLY SIX VACANT AS OF THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO LOOK IN YOUR NEWSPAPERS AND GOOGLE THAT UP.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE OVER HIRING POSITIONS RIGHT NOW.
THAT BEING SAID, MM-HMM,
AND BECAUSE OF SOME LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS, UH, AT THE STATE HOUSE THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, I THINK WE'VE ARTIFICIALLY KIND OF DELAYED SOME RETIREMENTS THAT NORMALLY WOULD'VE COME.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW THAT FLUSHES OUT, YOU COULD SEE A PRETTY STEEP INCREASE IN OUR NORMAL ATTRITION RATE OF ABOUT 4% OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO WE JUST NEED TO GET IN, GET IN LINE FOR WHAT'S COMING.
OF THE 11 THAT MADE THE CUT FOR YOUR, OR DID YOU SAY 1211 FOR FEBRUARY 12TH, 11 KS, HOW MANY APPLIED? UH, I, I THINK WE WERE RIGHT AROUND A, WELL,
THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE AMENDED OUR APPLICATION PROCESS TO MAKE IT EASIER.
SO REALLY YOU JUST HAD TO TELL US, HEY, I THINK I WANT TO, I'M INTERESTED, GIMME A CALL.
AND SO OUR SHOW UP RATE OUT OF THOSE 200 WAS ABOUT 50%.
SO WE ONLY HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED APPLICANTS ACTUALLY WALK THROUGH THE DOOR AND TAKE ANY OF THE SCREENING TESTS.
UH, SO, AND THAT IS A CHANGE FROM 2018.
WE HAD 276 APPLICANTS AND THEY ALL SHOWED UP, BUT 90 CAN'T MAKE THE CUT HERE.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME NUANCES, UM, GIVEN THE SIZE AND SCOPE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY RANKS AS A, YOU KNOW, AN X, Y, Z SERGEANT AND SOME OTHER THING, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A SLOT THAT THEY CAN SLIDE INTO TRAINING.
I DID NOTICE ONE OF THE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO WON ALL THREE AWARDS, WHICH WAS CRAZILY IMPRESSIVE, I THINK WAS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS FROM, FROM MARK MANSHIP
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FOR, UH, PHYSICAL FITNESS.AND ANOTHER ONE WAS FROM CALIFORNIA, HAD SOME PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, I THINK, GIVEN A HOMICIDE.
HAVE YOU GUYS GIVEN ANY THOUGHT, UH, TO CONTINUE TO KIND OF THINK AROUND THAT LATERAL, LIKE DOING JUST A LATERAL CLASS OR ANY OF THAT? OR WHAT, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS THERE? WE, WE DEFINITELY THINK IT'S AN OPTION.
UH, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T THINK IT'S A NECESSITY.
AND WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK MAKES OUR SERVICE PROFESSIONALS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS OUR ONBOARDING AND OUR CULTURE BUILDING IN THE ACADEMY.
UH, WE'VE RAN OUR OWN ACADEMY SINCE 2009.
AND, AND I JUST THINK IT OFFERS A GREAT DEAL OF BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE PEOPLE TOGETHER, UH, FOR 19 OR 20 WEEKS.
UH, YOU'RE BUILDING A SMALL TEAM WITHIN THEM.
UH, YOU'RE BUILDING EXPECTATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THEM, AND THEN YOU'RE BRINGING 'EM OUT TOGETHER AS A GROUP.
I, I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INDIRECT BENEFITS TO THAT MODEL, UH, OF ONBOARDING.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, UH, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE LONGER THAN 2009, THEY DIDN'T COME IN WITH AN ACADEMY LIKE THAT.
SO WE KNOW WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL, UH, WITH LATERAL TRANSFERS.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT PROCESS TO ONBOARD 'EM.
AND SO WE CONTINUE TO TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT CONTINGENCY BASIS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAD 40 PEOPLE WALK OUT THE DOOR, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE TO, TO CHANGE SOME THINGS OR, OR INNOVATE, UH, AROUND THAT ONBOARDING.
SO YES, WE PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
UH, YES, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, BUT IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO PROPOSE THAT, UH, UNLESS THE SITUATION JUST DICTATES THAT WE NEED TO ACCELERATE THE ONBOARDING.
AND FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT, UM, I KNOW, 'CAUSE I'VE NOTICED THERE'S AN OPENING FOR IT, WHICH I THINK WAS GREAT ON THE MENTAL HEALTH SIDE.
WHEN WAS THAT SORT OF INTRODUCED AS A FULL FULL-TIME POSITION? AND, AND DO YOU SEE A NEED FOR THAT TO GROW AND, AND COUNT? OR AS FAR AS DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE HELPING ON THE, ON THE MENTAL HEALTH SIDE OF OUR OFFICERS, I, I WOULD SAY OUR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF WHAT WE CALL A WELLNESS UNIT.
UH, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO WE STARTED A PROGRAM CALLED OASIS, UH, THAT WAS A PEER SUPPORT TYPE OF GROUP.
UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY IN, IN 2019 ISH, UH, THE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, PRODUCED A REPORT THAT WAS A CASE STUDY OF 11 DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT HAVE WELLNESS UNITS.
AND SO WE ASSIGNED AN AD HOC GROUP TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT CASE STUDY AND COMPARE IT TO OUR POLICIES AND, AND OPTIONS THAT WE HAD FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND IDENTIFY WHERE OUR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES AND GAPS WERE.
AND FROM THAT, UH, IS REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY WITH OUR WELLNESS UNIT, UH, WHICH IS A RECONSTITUTED PEER SUPPORT.
UM, AND THEN THE HIRING OF OUR LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN THIS BUDGET.
AND, UH, WE HAD A CONTRACTUAL SERVICE WITH THAT COUNSELOR BEFORE.
UH, BUT SHE APPLIED AND IS NOW A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.
AND SO SHE'S LEADING THE EFFORTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN WELLNESS.
UH, AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S NOT JUST WELLNESS IS NOT JUST MENTAL HEALTH.
THERE'S ACTUALLY FIVE PILLARS OF THAT, YOU KNOW, MIND, BODY, SPIRIT, FINANCIAL AND, AND FAMILY OR RELATIONAL, UH, HEALTH.
AND SO SHE'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON THAT FRONT.
UH, I DEFINITELY SEE THAT WE WILL NEED TO EXPAND IN THAT AREA.
UH, AGAIN, NOT THAT THAT WE NEED EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS, BUT OKLAHOMA CITY'S WELLNESS UNIT HAS FOUR FULL-TIME STAFFED OFFICERS IN ADDITION TO AN LPC.
UH, AND SO AS, AS THAT EVOLVES, UH, AND BECOMES MORE MATURE AS AN OFFERING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO IDENTIFY PROBABLY ADDITIONAL HUMAN RESOURCES TO ASSIGN THAT.
WHICH, UH, IF, IF YOU READ INTO THE LITERATURE ON, ON RETENTION, UH, IN HIRING, THAT'S A HUGE COMPONENT, UH, FOR THE CURRENT WORKFORCE IS TO KNOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND THAT LEVEL OF RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO 'EM IN THESE PROFESSIONS.
UH, I BELIEVE CHIEF GOODWIN COULD, COULD COMMENT AND ALSO THAT HE'S DOING SOME THINGS ON THAT FRONT FOR, FOR HIS PERSONNEL.
AND SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE AN EXPANSION REALLY ACROSS, UH, YOUR FIRST RESPONDER SERVICES AND WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
NOT JUST SAYING, YOUR INSURANCE WILL PAY FOR YOU TO GO DO THIS.
BUT YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOU CAN JUST POP IN AND SAY CORRECT, ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGH DEMAND, HIGH STRESS JOBS.
AND TO BE CLEAR FOR THOSE WATCHING THIS, UH, OUR LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR, UH, DELIVERS SERVICES FOR THOSE THAT WANT IN THE BUILDING.
UH, BUT THOSE ARE ALL CONFIDENTIAL TO HOW SHE DELIVERS THEM.
SO SHE'S NOT REPORTING TO ANYBODY.
AND SO I CAN TELL YOU SHE'S BUSY, UH, BECAUSE SHE TELLS ME SHE'S BUSY.
UH, BUT I'M CONFIDENT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE GETTING A GOOD SERVICE.
AND THAT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE MEMBERS OF YOUR WORKFORCE ARE GETTING A GOOD SERVICE AND FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING THERE.
CHIEF, DO YOU EVER SEE LIKE THAT THERE COULD BE A NEED FOR BETWEEN POLICE AND FIRE, LIKE A, A SHARED WELLNESS UNIT? OR ARE THERE TOO MANY DIFFERENCES WHERE YOU THINK THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO BE SEPARATE? UH, I DEFINITELY THINK THERE SHOULD BE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TWO.
UH, BUT TO BE HONEST, JUST IN OUR EXPERIENCE IN OUR, WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, THAT THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AREN'T ENOUGH TO MEET ALL
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OUR NEEDS.SO, UH, WHEN, WHEN I TALK ABOUT SHARING, I, I USUALLY THINK ABOUT EFFICIENCY.
UH, SO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WORK HERE.
SO CAN WE USE THE WORK FROM BOTH PLACES? THERE'S PLENTY OF WORK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.
UH, SO IT SHOULD DEFINITELY WORK IN COORDINATION WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH HUMAN RESOURCES.
UH, SO WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, DIRECTOR, GOOD PASTOR AND HER STAFF ON, ON HOW TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE NOT BECOMING A SILO MM-HMM.
UH, AND SO I, TO YOUR QUESTION, I DEFINITELY THINK THERE SHOULD BE COLLABORATION.
UH, BUT THE MODEL THAT OKLAHOMA CITY HAS WHERE THEY HAVE A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR ON EACH ONE, UH, BOTH FIRE AND POLICE, AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK FOR, FOR HOW THEIR SERVICES ARE, ARE BEING DELIVERED.
JUST A COUPLE MORE ON THE NUMBERS.
AGAIN, THE, I DON'T SUBMIT THESE TO YOU TO SAY, LOOK, JOHNNY HAS A RED BIKE, SO WE SHOULD GET A RED BIKE.
I, I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT SOME OF OUR COMPARABLE CITIES ARE DOING.
UH, I WANT YOU TO SEE SOME OF THE NUANCES THAT, UH, TO ME STAND OUT.
SO LIKE SQUARE MILES, UH, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT EAST OF I 35, THAT IS BRINGING A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC, UH, TO THE SERVICE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CITIZENS OUT THERE.
UH, PROFESSIONAL STAFF IS A DIFFERENCE.
UH, IF YOU DO THE GDAS ON THIS, YOU SEE BROKEN ARROWS UP AROUND 1.4 A LITTLE BIT MORE ON OFFICERS PER THOUSAND, UH, NORMAN'S ABOUT MID 1.35, 1.34, AND THEN WE'RE ABOUT 1.31.
AND, BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO BE AT 1.4, THAT THAT JUST MEANS YOU CAN SEE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THERE.
BUT EVEN THAT IN GENERAL, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES OF EDMUND.
UH, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY PATROL ASSIGNMENTS, I WOULD OFFER YOU A SPORTS ANALOGY.
YOU HAVE A FIELD, UH, THEY HAVE NINE PLAYERS, AND THEY FIGURE OUT, HEY, WHERE DO THE, WHERE DO THE BALLS GO? LET'S, LET'S PUT A PERSON AROUND THERE AND MAYBE WE CAN GET TO 'EM.
UH, THAT'S AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION.
BUT, BUT WE DON'T, WE DO SOMETHING PRETTY SIMILAR.
WE LOOK, HEY, WHERE DO WE NEED PEOPLE TO ANSWER CALLS? UM, AND SO THESE ARE OUR CURRENT PATROL DISTRICTS.
UH, THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF ON THERE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY FIVE, UH, SO FOUR DISTRICTS WEST OF I 35 AND ONE BIG ONE EAST OF I 35, UH, PLUS THE LAKE.
SO, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF NUMBERS THERE THAT CAN GET PRETTY CONFUSING.
UH, THE ONE I WOULD ASK YOU TO FOCUS ON IS THE BOTTOM ONE IN EACH OF THOSE BLOCKS, AND THAT'S TOTAL MINUTES.
SO WITH OUR COMPUTERED DISPATCH SYSTEM, WE'RE ABLE TO LOG TO THE SECOND HOW MUCH TIME YOUR OFFICERS SPEND ON CALLS.
SO THEY GET ON THE RADIO AND SAY, I'M ON A CALL.
THEN THEY GET ON THE RADIO AND SAY, I'M OFF A CALL, ALL THAT'S LOGGED.
AND SO FOR ANY GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME, WE CAN GO IN AND SAY, HOW MUCH TIME DID WE HAVE PEOPLE ON A CALL? AND SO REMEMBER BACK TO OUR FORMULA, ABOUT 60%, 66% THINK IT OUTTA THE BULLSEYE.
WELL, I CAN TAKE THESE MINUTES AND SAY, WELL, IF THAT'S 60%, THEN I ADD 40%, I CAN DIVIDE IT INTO BY 60, AND NOW I'VE GOT HOURS, AND I KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT I WOULD NEED TO BE AT WORK TO ANSWER THOSE CALLS IN THEORY.
AND WE CAN DO THAT BY THE HOUR, BY THE DAY.
SO WE GET A PRETTY GOOD ROLLING CHART OF WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE NEEDED.
AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'D EXPECT STARTING AT ABOUT SEVEN CALLS RAMP UP AND THEN STARTING AT ABOUT SEVEN P THEY START GOING BACK DOWN IN, IN GENERAL, UH, A LITTLE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.
UH, BUT IN GENERAL WE CAN SEE THAT.
SO WE KNOW WHEN WE START SHIFTS HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ON EACH SHIFT.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO FACTOR IN SHOW UP RATE.
UH, WE HAVE TO FACTOR IN WHAT OUR STANDARD STAFFING IS.
UH, SO WITH THE CURRENT MODEL, WE'RE AUTHORIZED 1 28, BUT IF WE'RE TYPICALLY 6% DOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE START A NEW ACADEMY, WE HAVE THAT.
AND THEN OVER THAT 18 MONTHS TO GET THE NEW ACADEMY, WE'RE GONNA LOSE ANOTHER 7%.
SO WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE HAVING TO WORK WITHIN MARGINS OF NOT BEING FULLY STAFFED.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A PHENOMENON JUST IN EDMOND.
THAT'S A PHENOMENON EVERYWHERE THAT HAS THIS KIND OF HIRING CYCLE.
BUT A PARTICULAR CONCERN, YOU SEE DISTRICT FOUR AT 631 MINUTES, WHICH IS DOUBLE WHAT SOME OF THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE.
HAVE YOU DONE ANY TYPE OF ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME CERTAIN DISTRICTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, IS IT POPULATION AGE? UM, IT, IT'S A COUPLE OF, YES.
UH, SO OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OUR IT DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY GOOD, UH, GEOGRAPHIC DATA ON ROOFTOPS AND, AND, UH, ZONING.
AND SO WE, WE KIND OF KNOW IT, IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT DENSITY OF POPULATION.
UH, MORE PEOPLE, MORE CALLS IS TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS OUT.
AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T OFFER THIS AS THIS IS
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WHAT WE'RE DOING.I JUST OFFER THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO MOVING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S AN EXPANSION INTO SI SIX DISTRICTS.
UH, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE IS WE'VE JUST TAKEN THAT EAST BOUNDARY FOR DISTRICT TWO AND FOUR AND MOVED IT TO THE WEST OVER TO COLTRANE.
UH, AND YOU SEE HOW THAT ADJUSTED NUMBERS, AGAIN, I'M NOT TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF WORK, UH, THAT BOTH OUR, UH, PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND OUR COMMAND STAFF ARE CURRENTLY DOING TO KIND OF SEE, HEY, DO WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT POSITIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME? AND AGAIN, TO USE A BASEBALL ANALOGY, IT'S LIKE PLAYING THE SHIFT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW THEY'RE GONNA HIT TO THE LEFT, THEN WHY ARE YOU PLAYING, UH, THE SECOND BASEMAN TO THE RIGHT? YOU JUST MOVE EVERYBODY OVER.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE USING THIS TYPE OF DATA AND HAVING THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS, BUT YOU CAN CREATE ALL THE DISTRICTS YOU WANT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TO PUT IN THEM, THEN IT'S REALLY AN ACADEMIC EXERCISE.
UH, AND THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICER WORKING IN DISTRICT ONE, WHEN THEY GET TO EDMOND ROAD, THEY'RE NOT TAKING A RIGHT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, THEIR BADGES AND PATCHES SAY, EDMOND, THEY DELIVER SERVICE EVERYWHERE.
THEY JUST KNOW WHAT THEIR GENERAL AREA IS.
CHIEF ON THAT, WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP, SO ARCADIA HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN MORE DEVELOPED.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT LANDHOLDER THERE THAT'S DECIDED TO PUT IN MORE HOUSES.
I MEAN, THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SEE SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT LOOKED AT OR GET SOMETHING BROKEN INTO, THEY'RE GONNA WANT SERVICES.
SO A CALL COMES IN FROM NINE ONE ONE.
SAY FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S IN THE AREA OF ARCADIA, DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY GO TO COUNTY? DOES THAT COME TO US IN SOME WAY? WHAT'S THE, IF, IF THEY'RE IN ARCADIA PROPER? YEAH.
THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT IS COUNTY.
SO IF YOU'RE IN ARCADIA PROPER AND YOU DIAL 9 1 1, THE WAY THE SYSTEM'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IS YOU'LL BE TRIAGED BY THE COUNTY.
UH, IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF ARCADIA PROPER, THEN WE'RE YOUR PRIMARY PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINTS WOULD COME TO US.
UH, BUT IF IT WAS A HOT CALL OR SOMETHING THEY WERE AWAY FROM, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR COUNTY TO NOTIFY US, UH, THAT SOMETHING'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
AND SO THEY COULD REQUEST MUTUAL AID AT WHICH WE WOULD GLADLY ASSIST.
UH, BUT YES, THE PRIME OF ANSWERING POINTS, COUNTY, AND I I WANNA SAY ON THE FIRE SIDE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME AGREEMENT, RELATIVELY LOW AMOUNT, I THINK THAT ARCADIA PAYS WHATNOT.
IS THERE EVER A SCENARIO, OR IS THERE ANY TALKS IN REGARDS TO, IS THAT THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND ROOFTOPS GROW IN THAT AREA? IF SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME IN AND JUST SERVICE THAT KIND OF LIKE LITTLE SLIVER, IF THERE'S LIKE A, A SHARE AGREEMENT OR DOLLARS, OR I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT TO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN FIVE TO 10 YEARS, IF THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BUILT OUT? IS THERE, IS THERE KIND OF AN AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD REACH OR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT? NO.
UH, I, I WILL TELL YOU HOW THE ARCADIA HAS THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THEY JUST DON'T WORK 24 HOURS A DAY.
AND SO COUNTY IS REALLY THEIR CONTINGENCY.
AND SO THERE'S REALLY TWO LEVELS OF SERVICE THERE.
AND SO ANY KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE US DELIVERING SERVICE, UH, IT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU.
AND I THINK THERE WOULD BE MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD REALLY LOOK, UH, DEPENDING ON THEIR SERVICE LEVEL EXPECTATIONS.
AND, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, ANY SERVICE THAT WE TAKE UP FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY, IT DOES HAVE AN INDIRECT BENEFIT ON OUR AVAILABILITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
I'VE SEEN A PATROL CAR SOMEWHERE WITH THEIR NAME ON IT.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, IF THEY WERE OVERWHELMED OR IF THEY WERE LIKE, WE'RE GOOD OR, ANYWAY, I HAVE A LIMITED, UH, KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW THEY HAVE MULTIPLE OFFICERS.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE NOT FULL-TIME, UH, THAT THEY WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE.
UH, AND THEN WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR MUTUAL ASSIST.
IF THEY CALL US, WE WOULD, WE WOULD DEFINITELY RESPOND AND HELP.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU, YOU DID TALK ON, UH, TOUCH ON PRIORITY CALLS, UH, AGAIN, WHILE NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF BRAG ON YOUR, UH, MEN AND WOMEN THAT DELIVER SERVICE.
UH, AND ALMOST HATE TO SAY IT OUT LOUD FOR, UH, FOR FEAR OF IT CHANGING, BUT IN 2023, YOUR PRIORITY ONE RESPONSE IN EDMOND AND PRIORITY ONE, THAT MEANS WE'D LIKE NEED YOU NOW.
SO THANK ROBBERY, UH, SERIOUS INJURY CRASH WITH SUB THREE MINUTE RESPONSE THAT IS LESS THAN HALF OF THE AVERAGE.
YOU'LL SEE IF YOU LOOK NATIONALLY.
SO FOR A COMMUNITY OF 88 SQUARE MILES, A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE WITH THE, THE SIZE OF FORCE THAT YOU HAVE WEARING BLUE UNIFORM, THAT'S AMAZING.
THAT IS, THAT'S QUITE WONDERFUL.
WHY IS THAT CHIEF? UH, ONE, I THINK WE HAVE SOME, SOME DEVELOPMENTAL BENEFITS.
UH, THEN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY LARGELY, UH,
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TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL.AND SO A LOT OF OUR URBAN AND RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL, IT'S CONCENTRATED.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT MORE PEOPLE.
AND SO OUR PEOPLE ARE, ARE FAIRLY DENSELY PACKED, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN THEY'RE OUT MOVING AROUND.
UH, AND SO WE CAN PLAY CENTER FIELD, UH, TO A DEGREE.
UH, BUT I, I PUT IT ON THE PEOPLE.
YOU HIRE GOOD PEOPLE THAT WANNA DELIVER GOOD SERVICE, AND THEY TAKE IT SERIOUS.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT DRIVING PAST A CALL AND SAYING, THAT'S NOT MY CALL.
SO I, I JUST REALLY LIKE TO PAT THEM ON THE BACK FOR THAT SELF INITIATIVE.
UH, AND, AND I WOULD ARGUE JUST AS IMPRESSIVE OF A SUB THREE MINUTE, WHEN I SAY SUB, IT'S LIKE TWO MINUTES, 57 SECONDS.
THERE'S STILL SUB THREE FOR LAST YEAR.
UH, BUT THEIR PRIORITY TOO, WHICH IS LIKE, HEY, YOU NEED TO GET HERE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN ON YOUR LIGHTS AND SIRENS TO GET HERE.
AND YOU LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY ENCOURAGING.
AND I THINK IT'S A TESTAMENT TO KIND OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HIRE AND, AND, AND THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'RE GIVING THEM AND THE TRAINING YOU'RE GIVING THEM.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT ONBOARDING PROCESS OF COMING THROUGH THAT ACADEMY WITH EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTANDING THIS IS WHAT THE CITIZENS EXPECT.
UM, AND THEN BACKING IT UP WITH THE, WITH THE TYPE OF COMPENSATION RESOURCES THAT Y'ALL PROVIDE 'EM.
SO IT'S REALLY A, IT'S, IT'S WORKING WELL.
IT SHOULD MAKE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE.
I THINK IT SHOULD MAKE 'EM FEEL THAT THEY'RE INVESTING IN A SERVICE THAT THAT'S GETTING DELIVERED.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT SAYING ACROSS THE BOARD, LOOKING AT THE TREND LINES.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD SITUATION.
UH, LAST THING ON, UH, ON, UH, FUTURE EXPECTATIONS IN PATROL DISTRICTS.
UH, WELL, I'LL STOP SHORT OF SAM.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY HAVE THE, THE CALLS, UH, THAT NECESSITATES THAT, UH, STAFF REALLY DOES BELIEVE WITH THE EXPANSION OF, UH, BOTH RESIDENTIAL, UH, AND THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT OF THE, THE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DOWNTOWN, UH, THAT A DOWNTOWN OVERLAY IS IN ORDER.
UH, AND WHAT YOU HAVE UP THERE, THEY'RE REALLY JUST EXAMPLES.
SO THE ONE ON THE LEFT SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, BOUNDARY LINES FOR TIFF AND THE, AND THE URBAN DISTRICT AND THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S NOT A STANDALONE.
WE WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND SO WE SEE WHAT THE CITY'S DOING AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT SERVICE MODEL, UH, TO MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO AGAIN, WITH CHANGING DISTRICTS AND ADDING PEOPLE, UH, THIS IS TOWARDS THE TOP OF OUR LIST TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MODIFY THE SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL WE HAVE FOR DOWNTOWN.
PART OF THAT, WHEN YOU SAID, UH, ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND NOT HAVING THE CALLS, SOMETIMES THE PRESENCE ALONE STOPS THE CALLS.
BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN INCIDENT BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE.
TWO, TWO THINGS THAT, THAT WE WANT TO CONSTANTLY BE MINDFUL OF, UM, IS, IS ONE, IF YOU BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, UH, YOU MAY SEE AN INCREASE IN CALLS BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW FEEL COMFORTABLE.
AND SO UNDERSTAND THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.
BUT TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, HOPEFULLY THROUGH THOSE INTERACTIONS AND RELATIONSHIPS, WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE THINGS BEFORE THEY BECOME A CALL.
AND SO JUST ON ROUTINE CONTACTS, THEY'RE TELLING US ABOUT, HEY, I THINK THERE'S A PERSON THAT MIGHT NEED HELP, AND THEY LIVE OVER HERE.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A CALL THE NEXT TIME WE'RE DOWN THERE AND WE SEE THE DELIVERY DRIVER, WE MAKE CONTACT AND GO, HEY, IS THERE A BETTER SOLUTION THAT YOU COULD DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO? AND THIS ISN'T GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM? SO YES, MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND HOPEFULLY AVOID SOME OF THOSE, THOSE CALLS THAT MAY NEED TO TAKE PLACE AS WE GROW
UH, AFTER I PUT THIS TOGETHER, I THOUGHT, WELL, I, I SHOULD HAVE JUST FOLLOWED RIGHT HERE WITH LIKE THE NUMBERS AND THE COSTS AND ALL THAT.
UH, BUT SINCE I'D ALREADY SUBMITTED THE POWERPOINT, WE'RE GONNA RUN THROUGH SOME TECHNOLOGY STUFF BEFORE WE GET TO, TO NUMBERS AND COSTS.
AND LET ME START BY OFFERING APOL AN APOLOGY.
UH, DURING LAST YEAR'S WORKSHOP, I TALKED ABOUT LICENSE PLATE READERS AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FLOCK.
UH, AND AT THE TIME I TOLD YOU WE WERE GONNA DO A PILOT PROJECT.
AND WHEN WE GOT DONE WITH THAT PILOT PROJECT, I ANTICIPATED SIGNING AN ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH THAT.
BUT THAT I WOULD REPORT BACK TO COUNSEL, UH, ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE PILOT PROJECT, AND, UH, THROUGH A SERIES OF MISCOMMUNICATION AND JUST MAYBE FOR SOME FORGETFULNESS, I DID NOT BRING THIS BACK TO YOU.
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UH, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.BUT I HOPE TO TOUCH ON ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROCESS NOW.
SO WE DID ENTER IT TO A CONTRACT WITH FLOCK THAT CONTRACT'S AN ANNUAL CONTRACT, AND SO WE CAN RENEW EVERY YEAR, UH, OR IF THERE WAS A DESIRE TO CEASE THAT CONTRACT, WE HAVE THAT OPTION AS WELL.
UH, I DO NOT HAVE THAT DESIRE.
IT'S BEEN FAIRLY PRODUCTIVE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY.
UH, SO AGAIN, LICENSE PLATE READERS, UH, THAT'S A PICTURE OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 10 DEPLOYED IN THE COMMUNITY, ALL IN PUBLIC SPACES, UH, WITH HIGH TRAFFIC COUNTS.
UH, THOSE SPACES WERE SELECTED IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COMPANY.
UH, THE COMPANY ACTUALLY HAS PEOPLE THAT CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THEY WOULD BEST SERVE A COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE BEEN INSTALLED.
THAT LIST OF, UH, OTHER ENTITIES THERE HOPEFULLY JUST GIVES YOU SOME CONFIDENCE THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT STANDALONE ON THIS THING, THAT IT'S PROLIFERATING NOT ONLY IN OKLAHOMA, BUT REALLY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
UH, AND I WOULD ARGUE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS THAT IT HAS.
UH, YOU MAY HAVE READ ABOUT OKLAHOMA CITY, I THINK IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UPPING THEIR CONTRACT.
I THINK THEY'LL HAVE 95 CAMERAS DEPLOYED, UH, IF THEY DON'T ALREADY, SOMETIME IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.
UH, AND THEN THOSE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS YOU SEE FROM GUTHRIE, UH, DOWN TO, TO CLEVELAND COUNTY.
UH, SO IT, IT'S A WIDELY USED SERVICE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE WORKSHOP PRESENTATION.
THERE ARE CONCERNS, UH, IN THE AREA, PRIMARILY A CLU REPRESENTS SOME CONCERNS ON THIS AREA.
AND THEIR, AND THEIR PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE DATA RETENTION.
AND SO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, THE LICENSE PLATES THAT ARE CAPTURED ARE RETAINED FOR 30 DAYS.
THIS IS A SERVICE THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR.
AND SO THEY'RE RETAINED ON FLOCK SERVICE.
UH, THEY ARE PROTECTED FOR VIEW FROM JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT ONE HAVE THE DATA.
SO IF IT'S OUR CAMERAS, THEN IT'S OUR DATA.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT IT AND YOU WERE NOT A MEMBER OF THE EVAN POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT, UH, FOR APPROVAL TO SEE THAT.
AND SO WE OBVIOUSLY APPROVE OF OKLAHOMA CITY.
BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND ON THAT DATE OF RETENTION, ONE, IT'S FINITE.
30 DAYS, IF WE DON'T PULL IT OFF FOR EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES, IS GONE.
ALL CAMERAS ARE INSTALLED IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN PRIVATE PARKING LOTS.
UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UH, ALTHOUGH PRIVATE ENTITIES AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CAN GET THEIR OWN CAMERAS.
AND ONE OF THE BEAUTIES ABOUT FLOCK IS THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US IF THEY WERE TO SO CHOOSE.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SEEING REALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IS A LOT OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, UH, WHERE LARGE RETAIL ORGANIZATIONS, UH, THAT HAVE PARKING LOTS AND, AND THEY'RE BEING, UH, SUBJECTED TO ORGANIZATIONAL OR ORGANIZED CRIME.
THEY'RE PUTTING IN CAMERAS AND GIVING, UH, CAMERA ACCESS OR, OR DATA ACCESS TO POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
MURPHY, IF YOU'RE HAVING ROBBERIES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT OPERATING, OR THE CITY OF ED IS NOT OPERATING CAMERAS ON PUBLIC OR ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR IN PRIVATE SPACE.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST CONCERN THEY BRING UP IS THE ACCESS TO THE DATA, BOTH IN, IN THE BUILDING.
AND SO TO OPERATE OR ACCESS, UH, THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED BY OURS, WE HAVE A TRAINING POLICY THAT ANYONE THAT'S GONNA ACCESS THAT HAS TO, HAS TO GO THROUGH THE TRAINING.
SO ANYBODY THAT ACCESSES THE DATA, IT'S RECORDED WHO DID IT, WHEN THEY DID IT, WHY THEY DID IT.
UH, SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRACK THAT IF THERE WERE EVER ISSUES.
THIS WAS LARGELY A REACTIVE TOOL.
UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, YESTERDAY WE HAD A REPORTED KIDNAPPING.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR FLOCK CAMERAS AND IDENTIFY, HEY, DID THAT CAMERA COME THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION? AND IF SO, WHAT TIME? UH, IN THE NINE MONTHS THAT WE'VE HAD 'EM ACTIVE, WE'VE RECOVERED FIVE STOLEN CARS.
UH, WE'VE ARRESTED MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
UH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE LEADS ON, ON THINGS LIKE SHOOTINGS, UH, OR ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT.
SO SOMEONE RUNS INTO ALTA SCOOPS UP $4,000 OF PERFUME, JUMPS IN THEIR CAR AND TAKES OFF DOWN SECOND STREET.
WELL, IN YEARS PAST, WE MAY HAVE PURSUED THEM FOR HOW LONG? WE DON'T REALLY, WE TRIED TO AVOID PURSUING FOR PROPERTY TYPE THINGS.
'CAUSE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PURSUE 'EM AT I 35, WE'LL JUST WAIT.
WE'LL GET A TAG AND, AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.
UM, SO IT, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF BENEFITS, UH, TO YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I WOULD ARGUE TO YOUR COMMUNITY DRONES.
AGAIN, THIS IS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEEN UTILIZED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, POLICE, POLICE AGENCIES SPECIFICALLY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UH, WE'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO LEARN OFF OUR PARTNERS.
UH, SO MOST METRO AREA PARTNERS LIKE OKLAHOMA CITY, NORMAN MOORE, YUKON, OKLAHOMA BUREAU, NARCOTICS, OSBI, THEY ALL HAVE DRONE PROGRAMS OPERATIONAL.
AND SO WE JUST FELT IT WAS, HAD MATURED TO A POINT THAT WE WERE READY TO, TO GET INTO THAT AREA.
AND SO IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I REQUESTED FUNDING AND YOU APPROVED IT.
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UH, BUT THERE'S BEEN A SLIGHT CHANGE.WE REQUESTED $17,000 WITH A THOUGHT THAT, HEY, WE'LL DEPLOY A COUPLE OF DRONES.
WE'LL GET PEOPLE TRAINED UP ON 'EM.
UH, WELL, IF YOU FOLLOW THIS TOPIC NATIONALLY, UH, THE PRIMARY PROVIDER IN THIS MARKET SPACE IS A COMPANY THAT'S AFFILIATED WITH CHINESE TECHNOLOGY.
AND SO BOTH AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND, AND EXPANDING ACROSS SEVERAL STATE LEVELS, UH, THEY'RE TAKING LEGISLATIVE ACTION TO LIMIT, UH, THE USE OF THOSE DRONES.
IF WE WERE TO BUY DRONES THAT WOULD FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES, HOW LONG WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THEM.
UH, AND SO STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED ALTERNATIVE DRONE PROVIDERS THAT ARE US MANUFACTURED, AND TECHNOLOGY IS US TECHNOLOGY.
UH, AND THE ONES WE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO USE OR INTEND ON USING, UH, ALREADY DEPLOYED IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND A COUPLE OTHER PLACES.
AND SO, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE BENEFITS THEY USE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY HAVE, THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE CAN KIND OF SPONGE OFF OF AS, AS WE STAND OUR, OUR PROGRAM UP.
THE ISSUE IS IT'S ABOUT THREE TIMES THE COST.
AND SO THE $17,000 THAT YOU APPROVED IS ENOUGH TO IMPLEMENT OUR FIRST DRONE, WHICH WILL BE A TACTICAL DRONE.
AND WHAT THOSE ARE INTENDED TO DO IS IF WE GET IN A BARRICADED SUBJECT, UH, OR SOMETHING, WE WOULD TYPICALLY SET UP A PERIMETER AND MAYBE EVENTUALLY HAVE TO SEND SOMEONE IN.
AND SO IT GIVES US EYES ON, IN A HOUSE, IT'S MEANT FOR, FOR IN-HOUSE OR, OR AN IN-BUILDING USE.
UH, IT HAS A BUNCH OF NEAT LITTLE TOOLS WHERE IT CAN MAP OUT THE, THE, THE FACILITY WHERE IT'S GOING THROUGH IT.
SO IF YOU EVER HAD TO MAKE ENTRY, IT GIVES YOU MORE INFORMATION OR AWARENESS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING INTO.
AND, AND WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THAT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT'S ALL THE FUNDING WE HAVE.
AND I WANNA PUT TWO DRONES IN PATROL.
AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PATROL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIMARY USE.
UH, JUST IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WE'VE HAD TWO DIFFERENT PURSUITS, UH, THAT ENDED WITH PEOPLE BAILING OUTTA THE CARS AND RUNNING OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
UH, IT'S NOT REAL GOOD TO GO CHASING PEOPLE THROUGH TREES AND CREEKS AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
UH, BUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A DRONE THAT YOU CAN PUT UP, YOU'RE KINDA LIMITED.
UH, BUT IF WE HAD A DRONE AND THE TWO DRONES WE WANT TO GET, THEY HAVE THERMAL CAPABILITIES, THEY HAVE 4K CAMERAS, UH, WE COULD DEPLOY 'EM WITHIN MINUTES AND REALLY INCREASE OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THEN APPREHEND THEM IN A SAFE WAY.
UH, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT ANOTHER $69,000, UH, WHICH WE HAVE FUNDS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESERVE, BUT THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION.
AND SO IT IS MY INTENT TO PROPOSE TO THE CITY MANAGERS THAT I BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL JULY WITH A NEW BUDGET.
AND THAT'S JUST TO GET THE PROGRAM OFF THE GROUND AND GET IT OPERATIONAL.
UH, AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF AT THE, THE BACK END OF THE ADOPTION CYCLE IN THIS TECHNOLOGY.
AND I, AND I THINK IT WOULD PROVIDE A, A REALLY, A BENEFICIAL SERVICE, UH, COULD ALSO BE USED FOR MISSING PERSONS AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.
UH, COULD, COULD SERVE A GREAT PURPOSE DURING LIBERTY FEST AND THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES, UH, WHERE WE CAN DEPLOY AND, AND MAKE EASY JUDGEMENTS 'CAUSE THEY MOVE REALLY QUICKLY.
UH, SO, SO YOU, YOU'LL LIKELY SEE THAT SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION COMING FORWARD SHORTLY.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UH, ON TECHNOLOGY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT BACK, BACK TO THE TRAFFIC BEING THE MAJOR CONCERN OF CITIZENS.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHILE WE FULLY HOLD ENFORCEMENT, IS ONE OF THE THREE ES.
UH, WE ALSO THINK THAT THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE HOLD A, ALONG WITH NOT ENGINEERING
AND SO THINK ABOUT THESE TOOLS AS AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL.
UH, AND I'VE, I'VE GIVEN YOU DIFFERENT VARIETIES AND WE HAVE SOME OF THESE ALREADY DEPLOYED.
SO THIS ISN'T NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, SO THINK ABOUT THIS AS A POTENTIAL EXPANSION.
UH, AND SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH STEVE LAWRENCE TO IDENTIFY WHAT AND, AND, AND HOW, UH, WE SHOULD INCORPORATE THESE THINGS.
UH, MY PRIMARY THOUGHT IS MOBILE STUFF.
UH, I WANNA BE ABLE TO MOVE IT AROUND, AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GET THE COMPLAINTS TO, PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS, SPEEDING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND YEAH, I CAN SEND AN OFFICER OUT, BUT ROUTINELY IF I SEND THEM OUT, THEY'RE NOT THERE WHEN YOU'RE THERE.
AND SO WE DON'T GET CREDIT FOR DOING SOMETHING 'CAUSE THEY NEVER SEE 'EM.
UH, BUT IF YOU PARK A SPEED TRAILER, WELL NOW THEY KNOW YOU'RE AT LEAST TAKING 'EM SERIOUS.
AND THESE THINGS ALL HAVE DATA COLLECTION CAPABILITIES.
SO THEN WE'RE ABLE TO RESPOND BACK, HEY, WE DEPLOYED THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.
UH, YEAH, THERE APPEARS TO BE AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S JUST IN THIS ONE HOUR.
SO THEN IF WE DO DEPLOY HUMAN RESOURCES, WE CAN DO IT IN A MORE, UH, TARGETED WAY, UH, BOTH TIME AND DAY.
UH, AND, AND THESE AREN'T THE ONLY THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY DO ON A SMALL SCALE THAT WE COULD WORK WITH ENGINEERING AND, AND POSSIBLY EXPAND, UH, TO ADDRESS SEVERAL THINGS.
CHIEF ALSO ON THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, WHAT ABOUT MESSAGING? UH, THIS, THIS IS JUST A NUMERICAL SAYING THAT YOU'RE SPEEDING, BUT, UH, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING UP
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WHERE IT COULD BE MESSAGING, UH, UH, ALTERNATIVE ROUTE NECESSARY OR SOMETHING? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.WE HAVE SOME BOARDS THAT DO THAT.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
UM, AS, AS I KNOW, COUNSEL KNOWS BETTER THAN I, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE AVENUES TO HOW TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC CONGESTION, TRAFFIC SAFETY.
AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS, OKAY.
AND, AND WE KNOW THAT'S NOT A FIX TOMORROW.
UH, SO EVEN IF THERE'S UNLIMITED RESOURCES AND UNLIMITED PEOPLE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST SLIP A SWITCH AND IT'S FIXED TOMORROW.
SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS AND THEN SCALE IT TO, TO WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE CITIZENS.
SO REAL QUICK, YOU'LL GET THIS IN THE BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOP, UH, WHEN WE COME FORWARD IN MARCH.
UH, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANNA LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE PRESENTED TO, UH, THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE LAST WEEK.
UH, AND HOPEFULLY IT SOUNDS REAL SIMILAR TO THE STUFF WE JUST GOT DONE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, SO I HAVE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER, OR PROPOSED TO THE CITY MANAGER OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, UH, THAT WE HIRE 19 SWORN POSITIONS AND SIX CIVILIAN FOR A TOTAL OF 25 POSITIONS IN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO THAT'S AROUND A 13% INCREASE OVER FIVE YEARS.
UH, SO THE SIMPLE MATH TELLS ME LESS THAN 3% A YEAR ON PERSONNEL STAFFING.
UM, AND SO WHEN IT COMES FORWARD TO YOU IN THE BUDGET, IT MAY JUST SAY PATROL OFFICER FOUR PATROL OFFICERS.
UH, BUT I WANNA PRESENT THIS TO YOU TO, TO LET YOU KNOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN OF WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE THINGS.
UH, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT EVERY POSITION WE HAVE SHOULD BE TIED TO A SERVICE.
SO GOD FORBID WE RUN INTO A FINANCIAL SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT A BUDGET AND YOU COME TO ME AND SAY, HEY, WE WANNA ELIMINATE POSITIONS.
I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT, A HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT, TWO HUNDRED EIGHT, WHATEVER POSITIONS WE HAVE.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT EACH ONE OF THEM DOES.
AND SO WE CAN HAVE AN EDUCATED DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT SERVICE ARE WE GONNA CONTRACT BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR A SERVICE, WHICH I THINK IS THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE.
UH, SO JUST REAL QUICKLY, UH, TASK FORCE OFFICERS IN THIS ONE, IN, UH, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND PROPOSED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHAT THIS IS, IS WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH BOTH THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION AND THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION.
SO WE HAVE A TASK FORCE OFFICER THAT SERVES ON THE JOINT TERRORISM TASK FORCE WITH THE FBI, AND WE HAVE A TASK FORCE OFFICER THAT SERVES THE DEA.
WE'VE HAD THOSE OFFICERS THERE FOR WELL OVER 20 YEARS.
THE ISSUE IS, IS WHEN THE POSITIONS WERE CREATED, THEY WERE JUST TAKEN OUT OF THE EXISTING COMPLEMENT OF STAFFING.
THEY WERE NEVER REQUESTED TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL POSITION, UH, FOR THESE PARTNERSHIPS.
SO FAST FORWARD 20 YEARS, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING 80,000 PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE AND WE'RE DELIVERING SERVICE TO DETECTIVES TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE.
THERE'S TWO PEOPLE THAT, THAT DON'T HANDLE TRADITIONAL CASES.
OUR DETECTIVES HANDLE ON AVERAGE, BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 125 CASES A YEAR.
AND SO THERE'S 250 CASES THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD TR A GOOD TRADE.
I THINK THE PARTNERSHIPS ARE JUSTIFIED, BUT TO MAINTAIN THEM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACKFILL WITH DETECTIVES IN THE BUILDING.
SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS LET US PUT THOSE ON THE ORG CHART AS PARTNERSHIPS AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND INVESTIGATIONS TO HANDLE THE, THE INCREASE IN CASES THAT WE'RE JUST SEEING WITH POPULATION GROWTH.
UH, FOR PATROL OFFICERS, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST ALL PATROL OFFICERS WEAR A UNIFORM LIKE THIS ANSWER CALLS AS NEEDED.
BUT THE IDEAL IS, UH, THAT THE FIRST ONE WILL FINISH OUT OUR COMPLIMENT OF SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, WE HAVE 11 SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
UH, WE TRY TO STAFF EVERY SECONDARY LOCATION.
SO THAT'S ALL MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN OUR JURISDICTION.
AND THEN THE FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS, THE THREE PRIMARIES IN BOULEVARD, THE THREE PRIMARY HIGH SCHOOLS.
WE PUT TWO OFFICERS AT ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE 2000 STUDENTS PLUS STAFF THERE.
AND SO WE THINK THAT JUSTIFIES THAT.
WELL, IF YOU ADD ALL THAT UP, THAT'S 12.
SO WE NEED A 12 SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER TO FINISH OUR COMPLIMENT, TO BE ABLE TO STAFF EVERY SCHOOL THE WAY THAT WE BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS.
UH, ONE TRAFFIC OFFICER, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ATROPHIED IN OUR TRAFFIC UNIT FROM 10 TO EIGHT.
AND THAT IS JUST TO PROVIDE FRONT LEVEL SERVICE.
WE HAD TO TAKE TWO PEOPLE OUTTA TRAFFIC AND PUT 'EM IN REGULAR PATROL SHIFTS.
AND SO THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR YOU'LL SEE A PROPOSAL FOR A, AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OFFICER THAT WOULD BRING US BACK TO OUR COMPLEMENT OF 10 TRAFFIC OFFICERS.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE TELLING AS THEIR NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS.
UM, AND SO PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ENGAGEMENT POSITION, UH, I THINK IS, IS NEEDED.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE TWO PATROL OFFICERS DOWNTOWN FOCUSED.
I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE TWO OFFICERS AND THEY CAN JUST BE DOWNTOWN.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE ENTERTAINING THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT AND IF WE WANT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WE GOTTA PROVIDE THE RESOURCES.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS, IS TWO REQUESTED TWO THIS YEAR, REQUESTED TWO.
NEXT YEAR THEY WILL GO TO PATROL SHIFTS.
AND SO THIS LOOK LIKE A PATROL OFFICER, BUT THAT WILL GIVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, UH, FOR THE PATROL COMMANDER TO HOPEFULLY LOOK AT AND
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IMPLEMENT SOME TYPE OF OVERLAY, UH, AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME.ONE CHANGE YOU SEE HERE IT SAYS POLICE VEHICLE TECHNICIAN.
UH, WE CURRENTLY OUTSOURCE THAT AND, AND THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT MODIFICATIONS.
UH, BUT AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH OUR FLEET MANAGEMENT, UH, WE THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A PREMATURE PROPOSAL.
UH, SO WHAT I INTEND TO DO IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS I'M GONNA TAKE A POSITION THAT I WAS GONNA PROPOSE AN FY 26, WHICH IS A ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY SERVICES TECHNICIAN.
UH, SO IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS AN IT GROUP OF ITS OWN THAT WORKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY IT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES WE NEED WITH OUR RADIOS AND IN-CAR COMPUTERS AND EVERYTHING IN THE BUILDING.
UH, CURRENTLY STAFF OF ONE SUPERVISOR AND TWO, UH, TECHNICIANS TO SERVE 178 PEOPLE.
UH, AND SO BY ADDING THAT THIRD TECHNICIAN, THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, SERVICE AVAILABILITY, UH, TWO DETENTION OFFICERS.
AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE WORKSHOP, BUT JUST A QUICK HITTER.
WE HAVE 11 AUTHORIZED DETENTION POSITIONS.
THEY WORK 24 HOURS A DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
AT ONE POINT IN THE LAST YEAR, WE WERE DOWN TO THREE.
A 24 HOUR OPERATION WITH THREE PEOPLE.
UH, THE SUPERVISOR, JASON FARLEY, AND THE OTHER PEOPLE, UH, THE THREE THAT WERE THERE DID AN AMAZING JOB.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY FULLY STAFFED AND ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO BRING A COUPLE ADDITIONAL ON, UH, BECAUSE ON FEBRUARY 12TH, THREE OF THOSE ARE GONNA GO TO YOUR POLICE ACADEMY.
UH, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF OUR ISSUE IS WE'VE HAD THIS NATURAL ATTRITION BUILD WHERE WE'RE ONBOARDING PEOPLE THROUGH DETENTION.
THEY'RE PROVEN TO BE REALLY GOOD WORKERS.
AND THEY HAVE DESIRE TO GO TO THE POLICE ACADEMY.
SO THEN THEY TRANSITION OVER TO THAT, AND YOU HAVE TO OWN BOARD MORE DETENTION OFFICERS, WHICH IS, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.
UH, BUT, UH, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THE WORKLOAD, UH, AND THAT WE NEED TO EXPAND THIS AREA JUST TO TRY TO AVOID NEUTRALIZE SOME OF THOSE VULNERABILITIES THAT WE SUFFERED FROM IN THE LAST YEAR.
AND THEN LAST, OUR RECORD SPECIALIST.
UH, NOT ONLY IS THERE ENOUGH WORKLOAD FOR THIS, UH, WE'VE CURRENTLY REDESIGNED THE RECORD SUPERVISOR POSITION TO NOT ONLY HAVE RECORD SUPERVISION RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA HAVE PROPERTY CUSTODY SUPERVISOR RESPONSIBILITIES, WHICH IS GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO BE OFFSITE, UH, TWO DAYS A WEEK AT THAT FACILITY.
UH, AND SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BECAUSE THAT SUPERVISORS ARE WORKING SUPERVISOR, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE TAKING CALLS FROM THE PUBLIC.
UH, THEY'RE PULLING REPORTS FOR THE PUBLIC.
UH, SO ANYBODY WALKS IN THAT LOBBY, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING THERE AND BEING ABLE TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE.
AND SO THIS ADDITIONAL, UH, RECORD SPECIALIST WILL HELP US DO THAT.
I WON'T GET THAT DETAILED ON THE REST OF IT, BUT, UH, SO THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSALS IS GONNA BE 1.245 MILLION.
THAT'S PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT COST.
AND AGAIN, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE WORKSHOP, I'LL GET MORE DETAILED ON THIS, UH, OVER THE FOUR SUBSEQUENT YEARS OR PRECEDING YEARS, WE'LL GO WITH, UH, THIS NUMBER OF STAFF.
AGAIN, THESE ARE REALLY JUST PLACEHOLDERS.
UH, WE MAY ESCALATE SOME OF THE REQUESTS.
WE MAY DELAY SOME OF THE REQUESTS JUST BASED ON WHAT OUR EXPERIENCES ARE, UH, WHERE THE BUDGET IS, UH, AND THEN OTHER COMPETING INTERESTS AS AS THEY DEVELOP.
UH, BUT JUST AS A BALLPARK FOR THOSE FOUR YEARS, UH, TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT WOULD BE AROUND 9.9 MILLION COMBINED.
AND THEN FINALLY, AFTER ALL THE IMPLEMENTATION WITH THE FIRST YEAR COST AND ALL THAT, WHEN YOU GET INTO JUST SUSTAINABILITY, UH, USING TODAY'S DOLLARS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 2.9 MILLION ANNUAL IMPACT TO THE BUDGET.
UH, FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT RECALL THIS YEAR'S BUDGET'S 36 MILLION FOR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT ABOUT 4 MILLION OF THAT IS ONE TIME CAPITAL EXPENSES.
UH, SO JUST OUR TREND IS RIGHT AROUND 32 MILLION FOR AN ANNUAL BUDGET.
SO, UH, A LITTLE LESS THAN THAN 10% IMPACT OVER FIVE YEARS.
SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S WITHIN THAT 2% KIND OF TARGETED GROWTH.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE CAN GET INTO IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT ALSO AS A REMINDER, THE LAST AUDITED YEAR PUBLISHED, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESERVE WAS RIGHT AROUND 12 AND A HALF MILLION.
AND I'M TOLD IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAT NOW.
SO WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES CURRENTLY.
UH, I THINK THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE PROPOSAL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE'LL NEVER PROPOSE A BUDGET THAT CAN'T BE PAID FOR.
WE'RE FIVE YEARS IN THE BLACK.
SO I THINK OUR BUDGETING PROCESS REALLY ACCOUNTS FOR THESE TYPES OF PROPOSALS.
'CAUSE IT GIVES YOU AN ANNUAL LOOK TO SEE, IS IT WORKING? CAN WE SUSTAIN IT? DO WE NEED TO SPEED IT UP, SLOW IT DOWN.
UH, WE DO KNOW THAT, UM, THE CITY'S GROWING.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S GROWING.
UM, SO OUR, IT ALL THAT'S TAKEN TO AN ACCOUNT IN THIS PRESENTATION, OR IT IS FOR NOW.
UH, IF, IF, UH, AND WE HOPE IT DOES, THE BOND PASSES ON FEBRUARY THE 13TH AND THEY ADD AN ADDITIONAL MIDDLE SCHOOL, THEN I'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN A YEAR OR SO, AND WE'LL BE ASKING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER TO STAFF THAT, UH, I, I THINK YOU KNOW THAT, THAT WE
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HAVE OTHER MODELS OF SERVICE DELIVERY FOR OTHER SCHOOLS.AND WE ARE IN CONSTANT DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, EVAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ON IF THAT'S MEETING NEEDS OR HOW TO AMEND THAT.
UH, SO I, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT I HAVE THE SOLUTION, BUT I JUST WANT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S AT THE TOP.
I THINK OF MANY PEOPLE'S LISTS THAT WE CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND, AND LOOK FOR THE MOST SUITABLE TYPE OF SERVICE.
UH, I THINK OUR, OUR DAY SHIFT OFFICERS HAD OVER 1700 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL VISITS LAST YEAR, SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE A POLICE CARD IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND TO SEE AN OFFICER IN THOSE.
UH, BUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THAT SERVICE.
THANK YOU, CHIEF, WITH THE BUILDING OF A NEW COURT THAT'S KIND OF A ONCE IN A MULTI-GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF RETHINK THROUGH HOW WE DELIVER THOSE SERVICES.
OBVIOUSLY THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING THERE, HOPEFULLY TO ENGAGE THEM, SO THERE'S PARTICULARLY YOUNGER FOLKS AREN'T HAVING TO CONSTANTLY THEIR ENTIRE LIFE BE A STEPPING STONE TO KEEP COMING BACK THERE.
UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED AS FAR AS, AS WE BUILD THAT SPACE OR THINK ABOUT STAFFING THAT WOULD HELP AS FAR AS PREVENTION, EDUCATION, ENFORCEMENT, UM, IN REGARDS TO THAT NEW FACILITY IN PARTICULAR? YEAH, I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE, KIND OF THE COLLABORATION WE DO IN EDMOND, SO MUNICIPAL COURT STAFF AND YOLANDA AND THEN CHRISTIE BATTERSON IN PLANNING THAT WE REALLY LEAN ON PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE IN DELIVERING THE TYPE OF SERVICES THAT, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, IS WE'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT SAYS, OH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE POLICE.
LET'S PUT A BUNCH OF POLICE PERSONNEL OVER THERE TO DO THAT.
UH, SO I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPOT ON AND THAT WE NEED TO SEIZE THESE OPPORTUNITIES THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES.
UH, BUT I'M REALLY CONFIDENT THAT YOLANDA AND CHRISTIE ARE COMMUNICATING WELL WITH ME AND MY STAFF ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE AS OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICE DELIVERIES.
I KNOW THAT CHRISTIE'S PURSUING A COUPLE OF, UH, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK WILL, WILL ASSIST WITH THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT YOLANDA, JUST IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, HAS REALLY BEEN DOING SOME BENCHMARKING WITH SOME OTHER COURT SYSTEMS ON, ON HOW TO KIND OF BROADEN OUT THOSE SERVICES.
UH, YOU KNOW, SHEILA NETTE AT, UH, EDMOND, UH, FAMILY COUNSELING.
UH, I JUST THINK WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD PARTNERS AT THE TABLE.
SO I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPOT ON.
WE, WE NEED TO DO MORE THERE, BUT WE HAVE THE PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT MATERIALIZE, UH, AS THAT SPACE BECOMES AVAILABLE.
UM, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I, I THINK IT'S JUST A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO RETHINK, MODERNIZE.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO MIGHT TOOK MAKEUP, MIGHT HAVE STOLE A PAIR OF SHOES, MIGHT HAVE BROKEN A CAR WINDOW, AND THEN IT'S, WE GET A CHANCE TO GET IN FRONT OF 'EM, WAKE 'EM UP A LITTLE BIT, PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT OR SERVICES, OR TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE SOME CAUSE CAUSAL STUFF TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BEFORE US MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT BECOMES A SYSTEMIC, UH, ISSUE.
UM, WE MADE A POLICY CHANGE ON H WELL, WE DID OUR BUDGET WITH THE HR.
I THINK IT MADE US THE ONLY, UH, FORCE, UM, IN THE STATE, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE MATERNITY PATERNITY LEAVE THAT'S OFFERED, THE ADOPTION, THE FOSTER CARE.
ANY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT ABOUT IS IT BEING USED? IS IT, UH, WHAT'S BEEN THE RECEPTION ON THAT? IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL NEEDS TO CONTINUE? NO, I THINK IT'S A, IT IS A HUGE POSITIVE.
I WILL, I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE CHUCKLE FOR THOSE, THOSE OF US THAT ARE PAST, UH, IN CHILDBEARING AGES WITH OUR SPOUSES AND SIGNIFICANT OTHERS, I NEVER SAY NEVER.
WE, I THOUGHT, HEY, IT WAS JUST 10, 10, 12 YEARS AGO.
BUT, UH, NO, I THINK THAT THE, THAT THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN THAT SPACE, UH, I THINK THEY REALLY SEE IT AS A BENEFIT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST THERE, BUT I, I THINK THE, I, THE CITY CONTINUES TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR MEMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD.
I MEAN, DOLLARS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST ALL ABOUT THE DOLLARS.
AND SO I THINK WHEN, WHEN YOU SHOW SUPPORT TO THOSE TYPES OF INITIATIVES, I THINK THAT REALLY SPEAKS VOLUMES TO, TO HOW MUCH, UH, COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER REALLY DO RESPECT THE WORKFORCE.
UM, AND SO EVERYTHING I HEAR IS POSITIVE ABOUT IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNSEL? WELL, THANK YOU, CHIEF.
HAVING SAID THAT, UH, NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, I'LL CALL THIS SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE FUTURE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFFING AND TECHNOLOGY WORKSHOP OVER.