[1. Call to Order of the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
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THE FEBRUARY 26TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
YOU SHOULD JULY A CALL TO ORDER FIRST
[2. Consideration of Appointments and Reappointments:]
ORDER.NEXT ORDER, BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.
WARD ONE APPOINTMENT AND OF, UM, APPOINTMENT OF CODY BOYD TO THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE.
THAT IS OUR ONLY APPOINTMENT TODAY.
[3. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]
A MOTION TO RECESS, UH, THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CALL TO ORDER THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.[4. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.THIS IS, THESE ARE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024.
I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS WRITTEN.
THOSE MEETING MINUTES HAVE BEEN PASSED.
THEN WE HAVE, UH, TWO OTHERS, UH, FOUR B, FOUR C.
COUNSEL, IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION THAT YOU WANNA DO ON THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT THESE ARE UNDER OUR CONSENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS FOUR B AND C.
SECOND, MOTION BY MUG, SECOND BY MOORE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? SCENE NONE.
THOSE TWO CONSENT ITEMS ARE PASSED.
[B. Consideration of Approval of Purchase of Cisco Networking Equipment for the Water Resources from Chickasaw Telecom, Inc on State Contract ITSW1006; $185,291.99. (Citywide)]
WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OF ONE ITEM, UH, CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL, PURCHASE OF CISCO NETWORK, GAIN EQUIPMENT FOR THE WATER RESOURCES FROM CHICKASAW TELECOM, UH, FROM ORANGE STATE CONTRACT ITSW 0 1 0 0 6 FOR $185,291 AND 99 CENTS.MAYOR, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MUG.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM PETERSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[6. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.[7. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
WE'RE BACK IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.AND THEN THE NEXT ITEMS ARE OUR CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE A THROUGH K ON THE GENERAL CONSENT CITY COUNCIL, GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN A THROUGH K.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[B. Additional IT Office Space:]
ITEM EIGHT IS THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION ITEMS. WE HAVE A B STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON B ONE AND TWO.MAYOR, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ANDY CONYERS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ADMINISTRATION, JUST TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS AND HAPPY TO YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
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QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AFTER I GIVE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS.SO, WHAT THESE TWO ITEMS, EIGHT A OR EIGHT B ONE AND TWO RELATE TO ARE LEASING ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE FOR THE CITY'S INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
CURRENTLY, THE CITY'S INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT IS HOUSED IN A CITY OWNED BUILDING NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF BOULEVARD IN DANFORTH.
THE DEPARTMENT MOVED IN THERE 11 YEARS AGO.
AT THE TIME, THERE WAS 17 EMPLOYEES IN THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
THERE IS CURRENTLY 29 EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE CITY'S, UH, TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
SO THE NEED HAS AROSE FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE FOR THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
IT IS A YEAR TO YEAR LEASE AND ALLOWS US MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY IN PLANNING THE LONG TERM FUTURE FOR THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
UH, THAT'S THE ITEM ONE IS THE LEASE, AND THE SECOND ITEM IS TO PROVIDE, UH, CITY OWNED FIBER TO THE FACILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN AN EFFICIENT AND SECURE MANNER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL VOTE ON ITEM EIGHT B ONE, THEN TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE FOR B TWO, OKAY? OKAY.
MOTION TO APPROVE B ONE EIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR EIGHT B ONE FROM SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NONE, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE EIGHT B TWO.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND FOR EIGHT B TWO.
[C. Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. ___ Supporting the City’s Application to the Oklahoma Attorney General's Opioid Abatement Grant Program. (Citywide)]
HAVE ITEM EIGHT B EIGHT C, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER FIVE DASH 24 5 DASH 24, UH, SUPPORT SUPPORTING THE CITY'S APPLICATION TO THE OKLAHOMA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPIOID ABATEMENT GRANT PROGRAM.CHRISTY BATTISON IS GONNA GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
I'M THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE STAFF LEAD FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVE.
UM, THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF US IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE OPIATE GRANT THAT THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS PUT FORTH.
A DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TILL THE END OF MARCH, BUT THIS WOULD BE A ANOTHER COLLABORATION PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR JUVENILE COURT SYSTEM, EDMUND FAMILY COUNSELING, EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL FOUNDATION, AND NORTH CARE, UM, TO BRING A MORE ROBUST, UH, PROGRAM FOR THOSE THAT GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AS WELL AS A PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION, UM, PRIOR TO.
UM, AND SO THOSE WOULD BE THE PARTNERS.
THIS WOULD BE IN, UH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SYSTEM OF CARE GRANT THAT YOU ALL, UM, APPROVED FOR SUPPORT LAST WEEK.
SO I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE ON THIS APPLICATION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT? I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, INITIATIVE.
I THINK, UH, WHAT OPIOID CRISIS DID, IMPACTED FAMILIES AND DID NOT CARE ABOUT WEALTH TO NOT CARE ABOUT CLASS.
AND I THINK ALL TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW SOMEBODY WHO, UM, EXPERIENCED EITHER AN ADDICTION OR UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE DIED BY SUICIDE.
AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THE CITY HAS IN REGARDS TO, UM, WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, DIRECT SOME FUNDS TO SOME MUCH NEEDED CARE OR SOME TREATMENT PREVENTION AND SUPPORT, UH, TO HELP ASSIST WITH THAT.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM EIGHT C.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[D. Consideration of Acceptance of Twenty-Seven Donated Temporary and Permanent Easements for the Edmond Road and Second Street Sidewalk Project from: Edmond Publishing Co, Inc; Teje LLC/Ryno Properties LLC; R & A Investment Group LLC; Mayridge Properties LLC; Advanced Printing & Marketing; Eugene Waits; Assoc of Trails South Addition, Inc; Karst Property LLC; Weeden Properties LLC; Michelle Dayan & Chen TRS; Station at UCO LLC; University of Central Oklahoma; Fast Friends LLC; 831 Edmond LLC; Broncho Land & Investments LLC; Robert C Howl TRS; Hunter Cove LLC; Sooner Answering Service Inc; Larry & Betty J Wymer TRS; HCJ Properties LLC; Nivek LLC; Winters William K & A E; Jacobsen & Laasch Enterprises LLC; KSK LLC; and Sonic Drive In. (Citywide)]
WE HAVE EIGHT D.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M STEVE LAWRENCE, CITY ENGINEER.
UH, WANTED TO TALK TO YOU A BIT ABOUT THIS ITEM, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCEPT 27 EASEMENTS FOR.
UM, SO THIS PROJECT CAME ABOUT, IT IS FOR ALL THE SIDEWALKS.
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WE DID, DONE NUMEROUS STUDIES WITH THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT, UH, IDENTIFIED CORRIDORS AND, AND AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR SIDEWALKS.UH, THIS CORRIDOR ALONG SECOND STREET FROM THE WESTERN CITY LIMITS TO I 35 IS ONE OF THE WORST.
UH, SO WE APPLIED FOR, UH, ACOG ODOT GRANT AND WE'RE AWARDED THAT GRANT.
UM, WE'VE GOT THE DESIGN 90% COMPLETE, AND FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE'VE BEEN GOING AROUND, UH, WITH, WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG SECOND STREET ASKING THEM FOR DONATIONS.
SO, UM, IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SIDEWALKS ARE ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THOSE SIDEWALKS.
UH, SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ESSENTIALLY DOING IS, IS GOING AROUND AND TRYING TO TALK TO THE, THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND SAYING, HELP YOU, YOU KNOW, LET'S HELP US HELP YOU.
SO, UM, WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST, UH, 30 EASEMENTS.
UH, SO WE'RE PRETTY HOPEFUL WE'LL HAVE ALL THOSE ACQUIRED IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
UM, IT, IT, IT'S A LOT TO DEAL WITH.
A LOT OF THESE ARE KIND OF TINY EASEMENTS.
UM, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GO OUT.
IT'S PART OF THE THE NOTICES WE HAVE TO GIVE AS PART OF A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT.
UM, SO THE REMAINDER OF THE EASEMENTS, UM, ARE, ARE, ARE RATHER SMALL.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND REEVALUATE 'EM, SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF SHORTEN THE PROCESS, SEE IF, MAKE SURE ALL OF 'EM ARE NEEDED.
UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE PROJECT THOUGH, IS WE'RE REPLACING WHAT'S OUT THERE.
WE'VE GOT, UH, RAMPS THAT, THAT DON'T MEET THE A DA REQUIREMENTS.
WE'VE GOT DRIVEWAY CROSS SLOPES THAT DON'T MEET, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS JUST SOME, SOME BAD PAVEMENT.
SO WE'RE GOING BACK WITH, IT'S A, IT'S A TIGHT CORRIDOR.
SO WE'RE GOING BACK WITH KIND OF THE EXISTING WIDTH THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO ALONG UCO IT'LL BE 10 FEET WIDE.
UH, ALONG MOST OF THE OTHER AREAS, IT'LL BE OUR, OUR MINIMUMS, UH, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST.
SO, UH, SIX FEET ON BACK A CURB, FIVE FEET, OTHER, OTHER PLACES.
OR IF THE SIDEWALK'S UP AGAINST THE FENCE, WE PUT IN SEVEN FEET.
UM, SO THAT SHOULD, WHEN WE COMPLETE IT, IT SHOULD HAVE THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR, UM, BROUGHT UP TO, UP TO STANDARD.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE AND GO THROUGH AND, AND GET AS MANY OF, OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PARTICIPATE SO WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS.
THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WE'VE GOT 'EM ALL MAPPED ON WHICH ONES WE'VE ACQUIRED, WHICH ONES WE HAVEN'T.
SO 27 ACQUIRED TO DATE, 30 TO GO.
WE'RE HOPEFUL, HOPEFUL TO GET THERE SOON.
AND THIS IS ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR A DA MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ARE IN COORDINATION WITH THE, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S THE DOCUMENT THAT KEYED US INTO THIS AREA.
AND WE HAD TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE DID.
AND THIS IS PART OF US, CONTINUE OUR CONTINUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT MASTER PLAN, UH, AS WHEN WE GO INTO AN AREA, IF IT'S NOT A DA COMPLIANT, WE MAKE IT 88 COMPLIANT AT THAT TIME INSTEAD OF GOING BACK AND FORTH IN IT.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ON A B JUST APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S EFFORTS ON THAT.
I KNOW AS WE TALKED TO CITIZENS, ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE, UM, THINGS THAT THEY WANT FOCUSED ON IS IMPROVEMENT IN TRANSPORTATION, PARTICULARLY SIDEWALKS.
AS I LOOK AND SEE THOSE SIGNS AT VARIOUS POINTS WHERE WE HAVE UP THAT, SAY THE SIDEWALKS IN, I, I REFER TO THOSE AS SHELL SILVERSTEIN, MONUMENTS, UH, MYSELF.
UH, BUT, UH, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE PLAN OF, UH, OF, OF, OF ENSURING THAT THAT PEOPLE HAVE MOBILITY THAT WE CAN WALK, THAT OUR SENIORS HAVE.
UM, OUR ELDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE, UM, SIDEWALKS THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE THAT ARE SAFE AND FREE FROM HAZARD.
AND THAT WE HAVE, UH, A PLAN TO DO THAT.
APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT UPDATE AND SUPPORT IT.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION ON EIGHT DI MOVE TO APPROVE.
[A. Consideration of Approval of the Updated Edmond Tax Increment Financing (TIF) Policy Guide for the Administration and Implementation of the Downtown Edmond Project Plan and Increment District No. 1 and Future Consideration of Additional TIFs as well as the Establishment of a Non-Refundable TIF Assistance Application Fee of $2,500.00. (Citywide)]
IS ITEM NINE, WHICH IS THE CITY COUNCIL OF PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE HAVE, UM, FOUR ITEMS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.THE FIRST ONE IS NINE A IS THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE UPDATED ADMIN TAX INCREMENT FINANCING THE TIF POLICY GUIDE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DOWNTOWN ADMIN PROJECT PLAN.
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AND WE, UH, OUR DOWNTOWN COORDINATOR HI, LENA DOZIER, THE DOWNTOWN TRANSFORMATION MANAGER.I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A REALLY BRIEF UPDATE ON, UM, THE TIF POLICY CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT IN OCTOBER OF 2020, THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE TIF.
UM, IT IS TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC FUNDING STRUCTURE TO CONSTRUCT PRO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO STIMULATE PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
UM, IT IS PROJECTED TO CREATE UP TO 530 MILLION NEW INVESTMENT DOLLARS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY FIVE TIF PROJECTS OF PROCESS AND ONE THAT IS COMPLETED.
ALSO, A REMINDER, A TIF IS A, IT ALLOCATES A PORTION KNOWN AS AN INCREMENT OF THE AWAR TAXES PRODUCED FROM THE INCREASED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, THE TIFF OVER TIME, IT DOES NOT INCREASE TAX RATES WITHIN A TIF DISTRICT.
SO A TIF AT A GLANCE, UM, JUST IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THIS, IT IS WHERE WE, UM, PRIOR TO THE TIF, THEIR BASELINE VALUE, UM, IS SET.
THE INCREMENT IS AFTER IT'S STARTED, IT'LL INCREASE IN THERE IN THE NEW TAX BASE AFTER 20 YEARS.
UM, WE'LL GO OUT TO THE COUNTIES, THE SCHOOLS, THE LIBRARIES.
UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR TIFF AGREEMENT HAS A 10%, UM, PAYMENT TO THE, THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS ONCE A YEAR.
UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEGOTIATED DURING THE CONTRACTING PROCESS.
RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHERE OUR TIF PROJECTS ARE LOCATED IN THE, IN THE NAMES OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT THERE.
SO THE UPDATES TO THE TIF POLICY, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM ONE BY ONE.
UM, IF YOU HAVE THE TIF POLICY IN FRONT OF YOU, THEY'RE IN ORDER.
UM, JUST FOR THE PRIORITIES OF ALLOCATION, I ADDED A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADD THAT TO, UM, HOW COUNSEL WANTS TO, UM, APPLY THE TIFF THE APPLICATION AND THE POLICY WERE JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE VARIED.
THEY DIDN'T CONTAIN THE SAME INFORMATION.
SO THIS ITEM IS JUST TO HAVE THE APPLICATION AND THE POLICY MATCH.
THE ADDED, UM, THE TWO ADDED THINGS TO THE APPLICATION ARE THE $2,500, UM, NON-REFUNDABLE APPLICATION FEE AND THE, UM, FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED WHEN YOU SUBMIT AN APP APPLICATION SUCH AS LIKE A PROFORMA AND THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET, WE ADDED AN APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, THAT PROCESS WILL INCLUDE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, LIKE THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, MYSELF, CITY MANAGER, AND WHOEVER THE CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON THE, ON THE REVIEW BOARD.
UM, THEY'RE THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE.
THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET AND THE PRO FORMA, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, SORRY, I LEFT HER OFF.
THE AGREEMENT, UM, WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT THE DEVELOPER, UM, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROTEST THE ASSESSED VALUE AT THE COUNTY WHEN THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE THROUGH THE, THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT.
UM, THE CURRENT POLICY HAS A, AS A LIMIT OF $2 MILLION.
UM, TO BE ABLE TO USE R TIFF, I WANTED TO MOVE THAT DOWN TO A MILLION DOLLARS SO WE CAN HELP THE SMALLER BUSINESSES ALSO DEVELOP IN THE, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGER ONES.
THERE WAS A, A CAP FOR EVERY FIVE YEARS IT WOULD GO DOWN.
IT STARTED AT 12%, 10%, 8%, 6%, UM, OF HOW MUCH YOU COULD GET A TIFF.
UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHANGE, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE AS THE YEARS GO DOWN, THE AMOUNT OF TIFF YOU CAN GET GOES DOWN.
UM, AND IF YOU FINISH YOUR PROJECT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF A, OF A TIFF, YOU DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH, VERY LONG TO, UM, TO GET THAT INCENTIVE.
AND THIS IS WHO WE'VE MET WITH TO GO THROUGH THE, THE UPDATES TO THE TIF POLICY.
UM, WE'VE MET WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TWICE, THE EDMOND URBAN BOARD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY CITY COUNCIL TODAY, INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS AND THE DIVA PRESIDENT.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? AND SO THE CHANGES THAT WE SEE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR UPDATING AND BRINGING OUR TIP POLICY TO BE A MORE CURRENT, UH, BUT FROM WHAT WE SEE THAT YOU HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENTITIES DOWNTOWN AND AND DEVELOPERS.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO US TODAY IS A RESULT OF THAT.
UH, I INTEND SOMETIME IN MARCH AS I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I'D LIKE TO CREATE THE CITIZEN'S TIFF TRANSPARENCY COMMITTEE, AND I'LL BE OFFERING THAT AMENDMENT TO THIS POLICY.
IF THIS POLICY'S ADOPTED, I'LL OFFER THAT AMENDMENT IN MARCH.
AND CERTAINLY I'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY MANAGER TO GET
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THE LANGUAGE DRAFTED AS I WANT IT.AND I'LL PRESENT THAT SOMETIME IN MARCH.
I'LL JUST SAY, COUNCIL MOORE, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
I KNOW, UM, I CAUGHT THE ALPHABET SOUP.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET ON CITY COUNCIL AND THEN IT'S ACRONYM CITY AND YOUR BRAIN HURTS AND YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH AND YOU HAVE ALL THE MEETINGS.
AND I, UM, REALLY RECOGNIZE THAT FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A TIFF INCREMENTAL FINANCE DISTRICT, UM, IS, UH, IS, IS GOTTA DO A LOT OF RESEARCH AND PUT THE THING IN.
AND SO I REALLY SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT THE COUNCILMAN IS, HAS, HAS BEEN WORKING ON TO BRING FORWARD IN NEXT MONTH TO HELP KIND OF INVOLVE JUST, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED, UH, NON-INTEREST OR NON, UH, AFFILIATED IN THE PROCESS CITIZENS, UH, THAT CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF AND WHEN, UH, THE CITY NEEDS TO ASSESS, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF FEE, UH, THAT WE DO OUR BEST TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TIE IT DIRECTLY BACK, UH, TO A USE.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW ORIGINALLY, UM, THERE WAS A, AN AMOUNT, I BELIEVE A $5,000.
UM, I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, LEGAL COSTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE INCURRED IN THE REVIEW OF THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT AMOUNT HAS GOT DOWN TO 2,500.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS WILL BE EVALUATED ANNUALLY.
UH, SO THAT THEREFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DETERMINE IF THERE ARE, UM, LEGAL COSTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED.
'CAUSE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT, UM, EITHER FROM OUR, UM, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL OR FROM OTHERS THAT'LL MAKE CO COMMENTS, I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO HEARING, UH, TO MAKING SURE, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS A SOURCE OF ANY TYPE OF REVENUE, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A, A PENNY FOR A PENNY, A COST FOR A COST, UH, TYPE, UH, TYPE ARRANGEMENT.
ANY OF ATTORNEY COUNSEL, THIS IS THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING PART OF OUR MEETING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? IF YOU DO, PLEASE COME DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UH, FOLKS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU BACK THERE IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK AND LITTLE LOUDER INTO YOUR SPEAKERS.
MONTHS AGO, WE PUT A PROGRAM UP WHERE YOU WERE BUILDING THINGS, AND I ASKED YOU, DO ANY EDMOND TAXPAYER PAY FOR THIS? THIS WAS ABOUT, UH, YOU HAD A, HAD A BUILDING BEING BUILT AND YOU WERE PUTTING IN, UH, LANDSCAPING AND ALL THAT.
AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THIS, COUNSEL, ARE ANY TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR THIS MS MUG, MR. PREMIER MAYOR, YOU SAID NO.
RIGHT? I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, SIR.
WELL, ANYWAY, YOU ALL SAID NO, IT'S NOT THAT.
WELL, I ANY TALK WITH THE, UH, COUNTY, UM, ASSESSOR, COME TO FIND OUT, HE SAID THERE'S TWO THINGS IN LIFE, SON, DEATH AND TAXES.
WELL, TAXES MEANS THAT WHEN YOU SAY TAXES, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE THE EIGHT POINT SOMETHING SOMETHING, SOMETHING.
THERE'S COUNTY AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS IN THERE, BUT IT IS TAXES.
OKAY? SO WE ARE PAYING TAXES FOR THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU SEE, YES, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER, BUT EVERY SINGLE PERSON RUINING AND LIVING IN OAK IN EDMONDS, OKLAHOMA, SOMEBODY IS PAYING THAT TAXES, WHICH IS THE LANDLORD.
MS. NUGG, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
SO YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT THE, UH, COUNTY ASSESSOR SAID? I DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN THE CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT THE COUNTY ASSESSOR SAID, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO A LOT MORE RESEARCH ABOUT TIP INCREMENT FINANCING.
UM, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CORNER US INTO SAYING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.
SO, SO YOU'RE WASTING OUR TIME.
SIR, SIR, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, I, SORRY, I'VE JUST HAD ENOUGH.
UH, I PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR CASE HERE ON THET TIFF ON ITEM NINE A SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM PAY TAXES EITHER TO THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT TO THE COUNTY.
SO WHEN YOU SAY TAXES, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT.
SO WHAT'S YOUR ARGUMENT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A TIFF IS, SO I'M NOT GONNA HAVE AN ARGUMENT IN A PUBLIC MEETING AND WASTE EVERYONE'S TIME.
THANK YOU MR. DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, HE CAN TALK TO ME AND EMAIL ME SEPARATELY, WHICH HE DOESN'T DO TO ASK ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
HE WANTS TO GRANDSTAND HERE IN THE MEETING.
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REALLY? IS THERE MA'AM, IN THE BACK, PLEASE, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEM NINE A, WHICH IS THE EDMOND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING POLICY BEING UPDATED.HELLO, CONNIE FAIR? I'M AN ADMIN RESIDENT.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, MS. FAYER.
I NEED IT QUIET IN HERE BECAUSE, SO WE, EVERYONE CAN HEAR, HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND TO BE HEARD.
UM, YOU SET UP THERE, THERE WERE FIVE NEW TIPS IN THE WORKS FOR ADMIN WILL, UM, IS THAT TRUE? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA WASTE YOUR TIME WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH.
UM, CAN ANYBODY TELL THIS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN DIALOGUE, I THOUGHT.
CAN ANYBODY TELL US, UM, HOW MANY DIFFERENT WARDS ARE AFFECTED BY THESE TIPS? HOW MANY DIFFERENT, WHAT WARDS, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT WARDS.
WOULD THESE FIVE UPCOMING TIPS BE AFFECTING JUST ONE? WE HAVE ONE.
WE HAVE ONE TIF DISTRICT AND, AND THAT'S IN ONE CURRENTLY IN FIVE IN THE, OR FOUR OR FIVE IN THE WORKS.
HOWEVER MANY ARE IN THE WORKS.
IT SAYS IN THE HANDOUT THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS TIFF IN THE WORKS.
THE, THOSE NEW TIF, THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME TIF, THEY'RE ALL IN THE, THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME WARD AREA? YES, WE HAVE A TIFF DISTRICT, WHICH ENCOMPASSES THAT WARD.
AND LENA, IS IT ALL IN WARD ONE? YES, WARD.
AND, UM, THE PROCESS FOR AWARDING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO BE A PART OF THE TIF IS, IS THAT A, A FAIR AND OPEN PROCESS? YES.
BECAUSE, UM, THE ICON THEATER, WHEN THEY CAME IN, THERE WAS, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT SELLING IT TO SOMEBODY IN EDMOND AND, UM, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BUY IT BECAUSE OF AN UPCOMING TIFF OR SOMETHING.
AND, UM, THE OWNER SOLD IT TO A FRIEND INSTEAD OF THIS PERSON WHO WAS INQUIRING ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THE PERSON THAT BOUGHT IT ASKED ABOUT BEING PART OF THE TIFF AND WAS TOLD THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.
SO I WAS JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
WELL, THE ICON WHERE THE ICON THEATER IS, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE TIFF DISTRICT.
THAT WON'T BE A PART OF ANY TIFF.
NO, I SAID THAT IS NOT PART OF THE TIFF DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? YES SIR.
PLEASE COME DOWN OR I CAN WAIT, YOUR HONOR.
UH, MY OFFICE IS 1503 EAST 19TH STREET AND I JUST WANNA MENTION A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIFF POLICY MODIFICATION THAT REMOVE THE CAP ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET REIMBURSED BECAUSE THERE'S FIVE PROJECTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT LIST, UH, THAT'S UP THERE.
BUT IF YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR PROJECT DONE BY JUNE, THEN YOU'RE DOWN TO 10% PER YEAR.
WELL, PRETTY QUICKLY THERE'S A CROSSOVER AND THERE MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE TO GET BACK AND HOW MUCH TIME YOU HAVE TO GET IT BACK.
SO I THINK LEANNESS CHANGES GIVE THE LIFE OF THE TIFF THE TRUE 20 YEARS.
IF NOT, AFTER ABOUT YEAR 12, NOBODY COULD APPLY FOR THE TIFF BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TIME EVEN IF THE REIMBURSEMENT DOLLARS WERE THERE TO GET YOUR REIMBURSEMENT BACK.
SO THAT'S A GREAT, UH, SOLUTION.
UH, I THINK I REPRESENT ALL FIVE OF THOSE ENTITIES.
AND MY ONLY COMMENT IS, IS THAT THE APPLICATION FEE SEEMS TO BE UNNECESSARY.
AND IF IT IS NECESSARY, IT SEEMS TO BE OUT OF ORDER.
SO THE IDEA OF A NON-REFUNDABLE FEE AT THE VERY FRONT END, UH, WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA EVEN HAVE THE PROCESS IS INCONSISTENT WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, IN THE LARK, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS A GREAT NEW PROJECT THAT'S JUST WEST OF DOWNTOWN, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THAT DEAL IS PUBLIC RECORD.
YOU APPROVED IT AND IT ALLOWS FOR $2 MILLION WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE DEVELOPED THAT BENEFITS THE CITY AND BENEFITS THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THAT'S NEW MONEY FOR THE CITY.
YOU WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE $2 MILLION WORTH OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS DONE.
BUT FOR THE TIFF, SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY WOULD WE DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT MORE OR LESS APPEALING TO APPLY FOR IT? WHY WOULD WE NOT DO EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD TO MAKE SURE AS MANY PEOPLE ARE APPLYING AS POSSIBLE AND THEN THEY GET VETTED OUT IN THE PROCESS? IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND WE'VE ONLY HAD SIX OF THEM.
SURELY WE'RE NOT OVERRUN BY THE ABILITY TO MANAGE 'EM OR BY THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THEM.
AND SO I WOULD WANT US TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD.
IF WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO SPUR $530 MILLION WORTH OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT, WHY WOULD WE DO ANYTHING THAT MAKE ONE PERSON CHOOSE NOT TO APPLY? BECAUSE IT SEEMS UNAPPEALING
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TO THE PROCESS.I TALKED TO A CITY MANAGER IN A CITY THAT'S VERY COMPETITIVE WITH EDMOND.
THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE A PRIVATE, I MEAN A PUBLIC STATE SCHOOL IN THEIR CITY.
SO I WON'T NAME IT SO I DON'T OUT THE MANAGER, BUT HIS COMMENT WAS JUST THAT WE DON'T CHARGE AN APPLICATION FEE.
WHY WOULD WE? BECAUSE IF IT GETS APPROVED, WE'RE GONNA GET SUCH A WINDFALL OF VALUE INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'D WANNA MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.
THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY DOESN'T CHARGE AN APPLICATION FEE AND THEY'VE GOT MORE TIFFS THAN ANYBODY.
SO I GUESS I WOULD NOT WANNA BE A PERSON THAT STANDS UP HERE AND JUST SAYS, NO, I'D WANT TO SUGGEST A SOLUTION.
AND SO MY REQUEST OF YOU WOULD BE LEAVE THE $2,500 APPLICATION FEE IN THERE, BUT MAKE IT PAYABLE AT THE TIME THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN WE KNOW THE PROJECT IS LIKELY TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE IDEA RIGHT NOW IS THERE'S A REQUEST FOR A FINAL BUDGET NUMBER IN THE APPLICATION.
HOW DO I KNOW WHAT MY FINAL BUDGET NUMBER IS IF I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GETTING TIF DOLLARS? SO IT'S ME.
WHEN I SAID IT SEEMS OUT OF ORDER, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A NEED TO OFFSET THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES OR LEGAL FEES, THEN JUST MAKE THAT PAYMENT DUE UPON THE AGREEMENT BEING EXECUTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
IT WOULD NOT BE A DISINCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY.
PLEASE COME DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UH, I LIVE AT 2 3 0 EAST SEVENTH STREET, SO ABOUT A BLOCK OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, TIFF DISTRICT.
UM, BUT I CONSIDER MYSELF A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT AND, UM, AND LIVE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN, UH, AS A DEVELOPER OR ANYTHING FROM, UH, FROM TIFF.
BUT, UH, OUR FAMILY DEFINITELY IS DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS.
WE, UH, REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT WE WILL GAIN AND WHAT, UH, FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL GAIN.
UM, THANKS TO OUR TIFF DISTRICT AND THE, AND THE TIFF POLICY THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING.
SO, UH, REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE INNOVATIVE AND TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS TO SEE DOWNTOWN, UM, FROM WORK WITH OTHER CITIES AND, UH, AS AN OBSERVER, UM, STATEWIDE WITH MANY, MANY CITIES.
UH, TIF IS A VERY POWERFUL TOOL.
UM, AND I'M REALLY, REALLY HAPPY AND HAVE WATCHED THIS, UH, AS A CASUAL OBSERVER, BUT ALSO AS AN ADMIN, UH, CITIZEN AND TAXPAYER, UM, SINCE THE TIF DISTRICT WAS CREATED.
AND, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
SO, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY TOO FOR THE CITY.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD, UH, MS. DOER'S PRESENTATION A COUPLE TIMES JUST BY ATTENDING VARIOUS CITY BOARD AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
UH, I'VE HEARD IT TWICE LAST WEEK, UH, BETWEEN EEDA AND, UH, THE, UH, DOWNTOWN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT COMMITTEE TO, UM, HEAR WHAT THESE, UH, POLICY CHANGES ARE AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, LOTS OF, OF BUSINESS MEMBERS AND CITIZENS ON THOSE COMMITTEES.
UM, I KNOW WERE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AND, UH, HAD MANY QUESTIONS, MANY, MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GIVE INPUT.
UM, AND THEN I WILL SAY AS, UH, WITH A SON WHO'S IN FIRST GRADE IN PUBLIC EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND, UH, WIFE WHO'S EMPLOYED BY EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, UH, CONSIDERATIONS TAKEN TO MAKE SURE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, RECEIVES, UM, AN EVEN LARGER, UM, FINANCIAL REWARD THAN, UH, THAN SOME OF OTHER TIF DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE PAST, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THIS HELPS OUR SCHOOL.
AND, AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT IS, UH, JUST PART OF A VIRTUOUS CYCLE THAT WILL, UM, HELP BRING MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MORE JOBS, UH, MORE TAX REVENUE.
AND THAT WILL VERY MUCH BENEFIT OUR SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, UH, IN WHICH MY SON WILL BE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
SO, UH, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE AND, UH, AS DOWNTOWN RESIDENT, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS GO FORWARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VERY MUCH, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? THANK YOU.
SEEING NONE, COUNSEL, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION ON NINE A, UPDATING OUR MONT TO INCREMENT FINANCING POLICY.
UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. MAYOR, UM, KIND OF HEARING THE COMMENTS.
ONE IS I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCILOR MOORE, UH, WHAT HE'S GONNA DO NEXT MONTH AND REGARDING THE CITIZENS', UH, OVERSIGHT.
I THINK THAT'LL BE SUPER HELPFUL IN, IN COMMUNICATING AND, AND BRINGING FOLKS ALONG.
UH, GIVEN THE OTHER KIND OF PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THE $2,500 FEE, I HADN'T CONSIDERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HAVE IT PAID UPON APPROVAL.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD QUITE WORD IT, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN ENTERTAINING A MOTION TO EDIT TO PROVIDE FOR THE PAYMENT BEING MADE UPON APPROVAL IF I DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW TO WORD THAT, BUT
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I, UH, WELL, IT, IT WOULD BE, AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.I, I I'M JUST INTERESTED IN THE, IN HOW TO CONSIDER IT CONTEMPLATED BEING ABLE TO RECOUP THE FEESS, BUT DO SO ON THE APPROVAL, UH, AT THE MOMENT OF APPROVAL INSTEAD OF AT THE, AT THE POINT OF APPLICATION.
WELL, NORMALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO AMEND THE MOTION, YOU WOULD AMEND THAT PORTION OF THE ITEM THAT'S IN HERE.
AND SO WHAT IT SAYS IN THE LAST SENTENCE, THAT THE, THE TIFF ASSISTANCE APPLICATION FEE OF 2,500, YOU WOULD ADD WORDS TO THAT IF I'M NOT CORRECT.
THAT WOULD SAY INSTEAD OF BEING PAID AT, UM, APPLICATION, APPLICATION FEE UPON APPROVAL OF COUNSEL.
SO I'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH A DI THAT MOTION OR A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
WELL, THE WAY IT'S SET UP, YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN COUNSEL WILL DETERMINE IF THEY WANT TO HAVE ANY OTHER DIS IF IT'S A SECOND AND IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AS OUTLINED TO MODIFY TO INCLUDE THE $2,500 PAYMENT TO BE MADE, UM, UPON, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE TIF PROJECT.
THERE'S BEEN AN AMENDED, UH, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION THAT HAS AMENDED THE, THE ITEM AS DESCRIBED IN OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT RE REVISION IF WE, WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT YES.
NEED A SECOND? I'D SECOND THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNSEL, WHAT DISCUSSION WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE ON THAT ADDITIONAL, ON THAT ITEM? I THINK IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE AMENDMENT AS OUTLINED IS.
I MEAN, I'M, THIS IS KIND OF CHRONOLOGICAL IN HERE AND SO I'M THINKING IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
I DON'T THINK JUST CHANGING THE WORDING IN THAT SPOT WILL GET IT DONE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT FEE WOULD BE MOVED ELSEWHERE IN THE POLICY TO REFLECT THAT TIMING.
UM, BUT I MEAN, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE DISCUSS THE CONCEPT AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROPERLY AMEND IT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN DRAFTING THINGS, IF YOU MOVE ONE THING, IT CAN AFFECT THE WHOLE BALL OF WAX.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, OF TIME AND EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS.
SO I DON'T THERE'S A SECTION FOR THE AGREEMENT.
AND WE CAN MOVE IT DOWN, DOWN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND I DIDN'T PRINT IT OUT.
UM, 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING SO MAYBE, I MEAN, WE, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT A SIMPLE CHANGE TO THE SCENARIO HERE.
I HAVE A SUGGESTION, MAYOR, IF I MAY, IF MR. ROBBINS WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO WITHDRAW HIS MOTION AND PERHAPS IN MARCH WOULD I OFFER MY CITIZEN'S OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AMENDMENT? YOU CAN OFFER YOUR AMENDMENT IN MARCH.
THAT GIVES US TIME TO YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE YEAH.
LEGAL LANGUAGE IN WHILE WE'RE FLYING IT.
SO, SO IF YOU'D WITHDRAW THAT MOTION.
SO, UH, I WOULD MOVE TO WITHDRAW.
'CAUSE ALSO IN THIS ITEM HERE IS THAT, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT IT'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COORDINATION, COMMUNICATION YEAH.
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WITH POTENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPERS AND ALL THAT.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE A MM-HMM,
UH, DO I NEED A SECOND ON THAT? I, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO DIRECT IT, BUT THEN, BUT I WOULD NEED A, A MOTION THEN TO GO FORWARD WITH, AS WRITTEN.
I'D MAKE A MOTION, MR. MAYOR, TO APPROVE ITEM NINE A AS WRITTEN, WE HAVE A MOTION AND, AND I'LL SECOND WITH THE QUESTION THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL HAVE AN AMENDMENT FOR THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN WE COME BACK IN MARCH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNSEL, PLEASE VOTE.
[B. Consideration of Acceptance of Bid and Approval of Contract and Resolution No. ___ Appointing Purchasing Agent for the North Timbers Lobby Renovations; $202,202.00. (ARPA Funds; Citywide)]
WE HAVE ITEM NINE B, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF BID AND APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AND RESOLUTION NUMBER SIX DASH 24 6 DASH 24,[00:40:01]
APPOINTING PURCHASING AGENT FOR THE NORTH TIMBERS LOBBY RENOVATION FOR 202,000.UH, WE'RE GONNA BE USING ARPA FUNDS FOR THAT.
AND WE HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION.
WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY.
AND MR. BOB MASTERSON IS HERE AS WELL.
HE IS OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND WE ARE PLEASED TO SAY WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR BIDS BACK ON OUR LOBBY FOR OUR, UH, NEW CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER.
AND, UM, I MIGHT LET YOU DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU DID, BUT, SO THIS, THIS BID ACTUALLY IS FOR THE ACTUAL REMODEL, SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE REST OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO LIKE FURNITURE.
AND WE ARE ACTUALLY ARE WORKING WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE'LL BE DOING OTHER THINGS.
ALL OF THIS IS FUNDED WITH ARPA FUNDS, SO AS SOON AS WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, GET EVERYTHING ORGANIZED AND WHAT WE WE WANT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT AND IT'LL BE DONE.
SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY LISTED AS A FOUR STAR PROJECT BY OUR COUNCIL AT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO REALLY PUT AN EMPHASIS ON IT AND GET IT DONE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, BOB, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT OR GO AHEAD.
SO BID WERE RELEASED, THEY'VE BEEN PROCESSED.
UH, C FOUR L CONSTRUCTION WAS A WINNER AT $202,000 AND SOME, SOME CHANGE.
UH, COMPLETION TIMES ESTIMATED AT 120 DAYS FROM BID ACCEPTANCE.
UH, MOST OF THAT TIME IS MATERIAL PROCUREMENT BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO BE CUT AND ORDERED IN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE LOBBY'S LOCATED AT NORTH TIMBERS COMPLEX 28 24, PROGRESSIVE DRIVE, I 35 AND VALE AREA, ALONG WITH THE OTHER CITY OFFICES FOR HR AND SOME OF THE, THE OTHER CITY OFFICES THAT ARE POSTED OUT THERE JUST NORTH OF THE FIRE STATION FIVE.
THERE'S THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UH, FOR NORTH TIMBERS AND, UM, CHEERS.
SO ANYWAY, WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS CLOSE RIGHT NOW.
SO JUST TRY TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THIS.
UH, IT WILL BE AT NORTH TIMBERS, WHICH IS WHAT, UH, MR. MASTERSON JUST PRESENTED.
AND WE WILL HAVE TWO LIVE CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES IN THE LOBBY.
IT WILL BE UNLOCKED AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, UH, FROM EIGHT TO FIVE EVERY DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
UM, WE WILL HAVE FULL SERVICE WALK-IN.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE WE HAVE HAD HAD BEFORE.
WE'LL, WE WILL TAKE CASH PAYMENTS.
WE WILL BASICALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, A GROUP THAT CAN DO EVERYTHING.
SO THERE'LL BE ABLE TO SET UP NEW ACCOUNTS, TAKE CASH PAYMENTS, CHECK CREDIT CARD, WHATEVER TYPE OF PAYMENT THE CUSTOMER WOULD LIKE TO USE, AND ALSO HELP WITH ANY GENERAL ACCOUNT QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE ANYBODY COME IN AND THEY CAN'T BE HELPED WITH THAT REPRESENTATIVE, EVERYBODY'S UPSTAIRS, SO WE'LL JUST CALL 'EM, THEY CAN COME DOWN, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING SPACE.
AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GIVE CUSTOMERS WHAT THEY REALLY NEED.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOMETIMES IT CAN GET FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR BILL.
AND THEN ALSO WE WILL HAVE A KIOSK THERE AND IT WILL BE JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW.
WHAT WE'RE PLANNING RIGHT NOW IS TO GO AHEAD AND GET A VIRTUAL TELLER, SO TO SPEAK, FOR OUR KIOSK DOWNTOWN.
AND THAT WILL ALLOW OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO REALLY INTERACT WITH THE CUSTOMER, UM, FROM DOWNTOWN.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ONE FOR THE KIOSK RIGHT NOW, THAT'S GONNA BE AT NORTH TINS BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE.
SO, UM, I, SO WE REALLY DON'T NEED VIRTUAL PEOPLE TO, TO, UH, ANSWER THAT, THE QUESTIONS THAT COME INTO THE LOBBY.
BUT HERE'S A PICTURE OF WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW ON THE LEFT AND THEN WHAT IT WILL BE ON THE RIGHT.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE TWO SERVICE CUSTOMER SERVICE WINDOWS AND, UM, THE KIOSK WILL BE ACROSS THE WAY FROM THAT.
AND THEN WE POSSIBLY WILL HAVE A TELEPHONE THAT'S AVAILABLE THERE SO THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN, THEY CAN CALL THE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO MEET WITH AND WE CAN GET THEM DOWN THERE AND ASK, ESCORT THEM TO A MEETING ROOM.
UM, THIS IS THEN ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WHERE YOU SEE WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF THAT, UM, THAT MAILBOX AREA RIGHT THERE MAY WELL PUT THE KIOSK THERE.
AND ALSO ALL THESE OPEN AREAS WILL BE COVERED IN GLASS AND IT'LL BE BADGE ENTRY, SO IT WILL SECURE THE SITE SO THAT, UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND THE BUILDING NOT KNOWING WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
UM, THIS IS JUST AN INTERNAL PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE THE REPRESENTATIVE SPACE BASE.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA FOLLOW NORMAL SECURITY STANDARDS FOR OUR INDUSTRY.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE CASH HANDLING PROCEDURES, WHICH ARE SPECIFIC AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE
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THERE, THAT TYPE OF THING.AND, UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? MM-HMM?
UM, WE'LL HAVE A PROTECTED SPACE.
SO ALL OF THE GLASS AND THE SHEET ROCK AND EVERYTHING IS, UH, BULLET RESISTANT SO THAT IT CAN PROVIDE SAFETY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING THERE AND ALL OF THE, UH, AREAS.
SO REALLY THERE'S ONE, LIKE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHERE YOU WALK IN RIGHT HERE.
SO IT'S ACROSS FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO OTHER AREAS THAT WILL HAVE GLASS.
AND ONCE AGAIN, IT'LL ALL BE BADGE ENTRY.
UM, ALSO ACCESS TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
WILL THAT BE BY BADGE ENTRY ONLY, OR ESCORTED? SO IF SOMEONE DOES COME IN, WE EITHER THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE REPRESENTATIVES AREA OR THERE WILL BE A PHONE WILL CALL AND THE THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE MEETING WITH NEEDS TO COME DOWN AND MEET THEM, ESCORT THEM UP.
SO STAFFING HAS BEEN EVALUATED.
WE'VE TRIED TO REALLY LOOK AT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, OPTIONS, BUT WE TRIED TO MAKE IT THE MOST A COST EFFECTIVE THAT WE COULD.
SO WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE JUST TO HAVE TO ADD ONE PERSON AND IT'LL BE A GROUP OF SEVEN, I BELIEVE, AND THEY WILL ROTATE THROUGH SO THAT WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE TWO PEOPLE COVERING THE LOBBY.
AND, UM, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WE'RE GONNA TRY THAT FIRST, GET THERE.
AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE MAY NEED TO, BUT HOPEFULLY WE JUST NEED ONE, ONE MORE POSITION.
AND THEN THESE POSITIONS WILL BE POSTED AND INTERVIEWS WILL BEGIN NO LATER THAN MARCH 1ST.
ONCE HIRED, THEY WILL BEGIN THE TRAINING PROCESS FOR ALL EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE COVERING THE LOBBY.
AND THEN WE HAVE A TARGET DATE, UH, TO OPEN NO LATER THAN JULY 1ST.
WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE OPEN BEFORE THEN, BUT IT'S JUST ALL GONNA DEPEND ON REALLY THE, THE LOBBY GETTING FINISHED WITH ALL OF THE, UH, MATERIALS THAT WE MIGHT BE MISSING.
SO, UH, IF THE PHYSICAL LOBBY RENOVATIONS ARE COMPLETE PRIOR TO THAT DATE, WE WILL BE READY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HIRING NOW SO WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY TRAINED.
WE'RE EXPLORING THOSE TO PROVIDE STATE-OF-THE-ART TECHNOLOGY AND RESOURCES TO ENHANCE THE UTILITY CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE.
AND REALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS, UM, WE HAD SOME, SOME WAYS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY SET UP THEIR ACCOUNT IN THE OLD LOBBY.
WE'RE TRYING TO UPDATE THAT A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT'S, IT WORKS IN WITH OUR IT SYSTEM AND WE'LL PROVIDE LIKE A ROLLING, YOU KNOW, TICKER TYPE THING WITH INFORMATION.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT VERY COMFORTABLE AND WELCOMING TO THE CUSTOMER.
AND IF ANY SPECIAL REQUESTS OR ANYTHING, PLEASE LET US KNOW 'CAUSE WE'RE IN THE ORDER OF REALLY GETTING OUR, IN THE, UM, PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF GETTING OUR LIST TOGETHER AND WE'RE GONNA BE ORDERING, YOU KNOW, JUST FURNITURE AND, AND ALL THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE A TOUR COME DOWN.
ANY QUESTIONS IN THE INTERIM? RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE KIOSK AT CITY FIRST AROUND THE CORNER, AND THEN THERE IS A KIOSK THERE NOW.
WELL, IT ACTUALLY IS THERE, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, INSTALLED YET.
YES, WE DO HAVE ONE, BUT IT'S NOT INSTALLED YET.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE REMODEL AND ALL THE DIRT.
AND SO WILL IT BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO JULY ONE? OR IT'S PART OF THIS WHOLE LOBBY SITUATION.
IT'LL BE PART OF THE REMODEL SO THAT WHENEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DONE TEARING DOWN WALLS OR, OR, AND SO RIGHT NOW IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MEET WITH SOMEONE IN PERSON, THEY NEED TO CALL AND SET UP A TIME TO DO THAT.
BUT WE CAN TELL OUR, OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT JULY ONE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WALK IN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO FIVE NORTH TIMBERS.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF THEY NEED TO TALK TO SOMEONE IN PERSON, THEY DO NEED TO CALL UTILITY CUSTOMER SERVICE AND, AND REQUEST THAT.
AND UM, AND REALLY IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW NOTHING IS, IS SECURE OR LOCKED RIGHT NOW.
AND UM, BUT YES, ANYTIME ANY CUSTOMER NEEDS TO SPEAK WITH A REPRESENTATIVE IN PERSON, THEY'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO CALL AND WE CAN SCHEDULE A MEETING.
AND I KNOW THAT AT CITY FIRST, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN FOLKS WILL COME OUT AND HELP.
HELP, RIGHT? I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE THE ONE PERSON THAT'S THERE ALL THE TIME.
SO, UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER, BUT PLEASE IF, IF WE'VE MISSED ANYTHING, LET US KNOW.
'CAUSE UM, OUR INTENT IS TO CREATE A SPACE THAT'S WELCOMING AND HELPFUL AND CAN ANSWER EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS.
AND NOT EVERYBODY LIKES TO DO ONLINE OR PHONE.
WE WANNA YEAH, EVERYONE DOES IT ACCOMMODATE ALL.
SO YEAH, I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOLLOWING THROUGH ON ALL THIS.
MM-HMM,
IT'S SO EXCITING BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND MYSELF, SOMETIMES I DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH A KIOSK.
I WANT TO WORK WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WHETHER I HAVE AN ISSUE OR NOT.
UM, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO PAY CASH AND SOMETIMES FEEDING IT INTO THAT KIOSK CAN BE AN ISSUE DOING THAT.
UM, AND, AND SOME PEOPLE JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MAKING A PAYMENT TO A PERSON AND GETTING A RECEIPT, KNOWING VERSUS A KIOSK.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, UM, I LIKE
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TO DEAL WITH SOMEBODY FACE TO FACE.I LIKE TO, I DON'T LIKE TO DO ISSUES ONLINE, I JUST DON'T.
I WANT TO VISIT WITH SOMEBODY AND IT'S EVEN BETTER IF I CAN LOOK AT THEM.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS WHOLE COUNCIL HAS BEEN, HAS WANTED AND ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE STAFF FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND LISTENING TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, THANK YOU AS WELL, AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST.
GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I ECHO AND AGREE THE, WHEN, WHEN I WAS CONTEMPLATING RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL, I CAME TO A BUNCH OF WORKSHOPS AND, AND THESE MEETINGS.
SO BE CAREFUL IF YOU'RE SITTING OUT THERE AND, AND, AND YOU MIGHT GET ACTIVATED, BUT THE ONE QUESTION I ASKED, I GOT UP THERE, HEY, CAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE? LIKE, HOW DOES THAT WORK? THAT WAS LITERALLY THE QUESTION I HAD IS SORT OF A CITIZEN.
AND SO MR. CHAPMAN, WHO WAS HERE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GIMME THE HISTORY OF IT.
UM, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE THAT'S, I THINK SPEAKS TO THE HEART OF WHAT WE WANT IN A CITY IS TO HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
AND EVERY CITIZEN DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FACE TO FACE APPOINTMENT, TO BE ABLE TO SET UP AN ACCOUNT, TO BE ABLE TO ASK A QUESTION, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A PAYMENT, WHETHER THAT'S BECAUSE THEY PREFER THAT THAN ONLINE.
THEY WANT FACE-TO-FACE, WHETHER IT, BECAUSE IT'S A TECHNOLOGY OR LANGUAGE BARRIER, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RETURN BACK TO THAT AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'LL HAVE, UH, THAT AVAILABLE TO OUR RESIDENTS SHORTLY.
WELL, THANK YOU THAT ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NINE B, NOT SEEING ANY COUNSEL, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NINE B.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NINE B? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[C. Consideration of Approval of a Contract Amendment with Flintco LLC (Construction Manager) for the Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) 5 for the City Center Complex for a Reduction in Cost for Items Previously Approved in GMP 3 and GMP 4 which include Masonry, Millwork, Drywall, Acoustic Ceilings, Metal Panel Systems and Construction Manager at Risk Fee. Additionally, the Amendment Contains Costs for Decorative Stairs, Rails, Fire Extinguisher Equipment, Bathroom Accessories, and Operable Partitions; and Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. ___ Appointing Purchasing Agent; $565,060.00 Decrease. (Ward 1)]
HAVE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH CLINICAL LLC CONSTRUCTION FOR OUR GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PRICE FOR OUR SITTER CITY COMPLEX.UH, THIS IS A DECREASE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF OUR OVERALL COST OF THIS COMPLEX.
APPROVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER SEVEN DASH 24 7 DASH 24.
SO JUST REALLY QUICKLY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A REMINDER OF, UM, OUR CITY SITTER PROJECT, THREE BUILDINGS $44 MILLION AND, UM, IT'S GONNA BE BID AND CONSTRUCTED IN FIVE PHASES.
THIS ONE IS ABOUT THE FOURTH, UM, BULLET POINT YOU SEE THERE.
THE ARCHITECTURAL FINISHING THREE BUILDINGS AND LANDSCAPE.
SO BACK IN DECEMBER WE CAME TO YOU WITH BID PACKAGE NUMBER FOUR.
UM, IT WAS THE ARCHITECTURAL FINISHES, ROOFING, MASONRY, FIRE PROTECTION, AND LANDSCAPING.
UM, WE HAD ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED THAT THAT WOULD COME IN ABOUT 12,000, NOT 12,000.
UM, IT ACTUALLY CAME IN A LITTLE OVER $14 MILLION, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A $2 MILLION OVER, OVER OUR ESTIMATE.
YOU GUYS DIRECTED US TO, UM, WORK WITH AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO IDENTIFY SAVINGS, WHICH WE DID.
UM, AND WE IDENTIFIED OVER JUST A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION IN SAVINGS.
UM, SO WE BID THAT IN A BID PACKAGE FIVE.
UM, THE, THE DEDUCT $1 MILLION.
IT WAS BID IN BID PACKAGE FIVE, BUT WE ALSO BID AT THE SAME TIME ITEMS SUCH AS THE STAIRS, VISUAL DISPLAY SERVICES, PARTITIONS.
UM, AND THAT CAME IN AT $490,000.
SO THE TOTAL COMBINED DECREASE IS $565,000, 565,000, $60.
UM, OUR TOTAL BUDGET'S STILL 44 MILLION AND OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS JUST A LITTLE OVER 39 MILLION.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE, UM, VISUAL OF WHAT WE CHANGED, UM, THE ORIGINAL CITY HALL AND THE UPDATED CITY HALL PICTURE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED, BUT IT DID SAVE US THE MONEY THAT WE NEEDED TO SAVE.
UM, THIS IS THE EAST VIEW, THE ORIGINAL VIEW AND THE UPDATED VIEW.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUTSIDE, MIDDLE OF LAST WEEK.
WE WILL BE BIDDING PACKAGE SIX IF FOR YOUR APPROVAL IN APRIL.
UM, AND WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NEXT MONTH IS MARCH OF 24.
UH, THANKS FOR THE RUNDOWN FOR THIS BECAUSE, UH, AS WE'VE ALL SAID, THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH ON, ON THE NEGOTIATIONS FROM THAT.
WE HAVE $44 MILLION THAT WE'VE EXPENDED FOR THIS PROJECT IS ALL, EVERYTHING'S
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WITHIN THAT BUDGET.SOMETIMES IT GOES UP AND DOWN, BUT THE END OF THE DAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUAL SIDE IS 44 MILLION.
ANY COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO KEEP THE GMP WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
I MEAN THE CMAR IS THAT 44 MILLION IS THE BUDGET AND THAT'S IT.
SOME THINGS ARE HIGHER, SOME ARE LOWER, AND WE WILL NOT BE OVER BUDGET.
SO WE DON'T END UP WITH CHANGE ORDERS.
I FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'VE DONE.
AND, UH, I I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, UH, COMMUNITIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT ARE DOING THIS PROCESS.
AND SO PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS.
AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHAT THIS PROCESS IS, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN STATEMENTS OUT THERE THAT WERE OVER BUDGET.
THERE IS A EQUATION HERE EQUALS 44 MILLION THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED, THAT 44 MILLION HAS NOT CHANGED.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, COUNSEL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE, A MOTION FOR ITEM NINE CI MOVE TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, SECOND SECOND FOR MORE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
NEXT WE HAVE THE SO BOY SCOUTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ATTENDING TODAY.
HOPEFULLY THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED, UM, YOU RECEIVED TODAY.
YOU, YOU, YOU ARE OUR FUTURE LEADERS.
WE'LL GIVE THEM A, A MOMENT TO EXIT.
I HAVE, I HAVE, I HAVE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEMS FIRST, SIR.
[D. Public Hearing and Consideration of Declaring Property Located at 1300 E Ayers, Within the Municipal Boundaries of the City of Edmond, Dilapidated; Unsafe; Unsanitary; A Building Or Structure Which Is Dangerous To The Public Health Or Safety Because Of Damage, Decay Or Other Condition; A Place Where Activities In Violation Of State Law Or Ordinance Are Practiced; A Fire Or Explosion Hazard Which Endangers The Public Safety; And A Public Nuisance; And Directing The Owner And Other Persons Responsible For Or Causing The Public Nuisance To Abate It Within A Specified Time. (Ward 1)]
HAVE ITEM NINE D NOW, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF DECLARING PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 3 0 0 EAST AYERS WITHIN THE, UM, DILAPIDATED, UNSAFE AND UNSANITARY, UM, PROCEDURAL ITSELF.SO THE, THE APPLICANT'S, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE THEIR ATTORNEY.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN AND ADDRESS YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.
SIR, MY NAME IS DANNY SHATTERED.
I AM THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND I SAID, UH, BEFORE I CAME UP HERE THAT I HAD A COUPLE OF PROCEDURAL MATTERS TO ADDRESS BEFORE, UH, ANYBODY GETS TO THE MERITS.
AND WITH THE PERMISSION OF YOUR HONOR, THE MAYOR OF, OF THE FIRST PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT I NEED TO ADDRESS, AND I DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY, IS, AND I I'D LIKE TO PASS THIS OUT TO THE, UH, TO THE COUNCIL.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU HAND IT TO THE CITY CLERK.
I DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY IN ANY RESPECT, BUT I MUST ASK THAT COUNCILMAN ROBBINS DISQUALIFY HIMSELF.
AND SAVING THAT COUNCILMAN ROBBINS NOT DISQUALIFY HIMSELF, THEN I'D BE ASKING THE COUNSEL TO DISQUALIFY HIM.
WHAT I HAVE PLACED BEFORE YOU IS A SOCIAL MEDIA POST THAT COUNCILMAN ROTTENS PUT OUT YESTERDAY, APPARENTLY TELLING THE CITIZENS THAT HE IS PUTTING OUT A CALL, CALL TO ACTION, THAT HE HIMSELF NEEDS THE HELP OF THE CITIZENS TO COME HERE AND TALK ON THIS PROPOSITION.
HE TALKS ABOUT HOW THE PREVIOUS COUNSEL WORKED AND FOR YEARS, AND THEN HE SAYS IS HE
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TELLS PUBLICLY WHAT HE BELIEVES TO BE THE TRUTH.I'M SURE ABOUT SOMEBODY INVOLVED WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT ANY NAMES OR PROOF.
HE SAYS THAT QUOTE, I WILL NOT SIT BACK WHILE A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF ISSUES AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE CALLS ALONG WITH PERMIT AND CODE VIOLATIONS AND ONSITE SECURITY CONCERNS, GETS ANOTHER CHANCE TO GET THINGS IN ORDER AND CLEAN UP A PROPERTY.
BY DEFINITION, COUNCILMAN ROBBINS HAS TAKEN A STANCE ON THIS MATTER.
HE HAS PRE-JUDGED THIS MATTER, AND HE'S PLACED HIMSELF IN THE POSITION OF A WITNESS.
I TOLD THE COUNCIL, AND YOUR HONOR, THE MAYOR THAT I DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY.
AND COUNCILMAN I DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY, BUT THIS IS VERY SERIOUS ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENTS, DR.
MRS. NULA, WHO THE OWNERS OF THE, OF THE LLC, HAVING A MATTER LIKE THIS JUDGED WHERE ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS PLACED HIMSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTROVERSY REQUIRES RECUSAL OR ABSENT RECUSAL, A DISQUALIFICATION BY THE COUNCIL.
I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE OTHER PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT I WOULD ASK OF THE COUNSEL AFTER ADDRESSING THIS MATTER.
AND WHAT I'VE PRESENTED TO YOU ACCORDING TO BEST WE CAN TELL CAME OUT YESTERDAY.
WELL, UH, THERE WAS A SOCIAL MEDIA POST, UH, UNDER, UM, COUNSEL, IS THERE ANY ACTIONS YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THIS ITEM OR WE JUST WANNA PROCEED AND HEAR MAYOR, ALL THE FACTS? YES.
I, I WOULDN'T MIND CONSULTING OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, WE CAN DO ONE OF TWO THINGS WE CAN DO HERE, GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE CAN GO, WE CAN TAKE A BREAK AND GO INTO A SESSION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR ATTORNEYS ON, ON HOW YOU CERTAINLY ABSOLUTELY CAN DO THAT.
THAT WOULD, YEAH, I, I WOULD REQUEST OR MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO, UM, DISCUSS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S GIVING YOU YOU GUIDANCE.
IT'S GOTTA BE ON THE AGENDA TO GO HAS HE GOTTA BE ON AN AGENDA TO DO IT.
COULD WE RECESS AND HAVE THE MAYOR CONSULT WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY? IS THAT LEGAL? DO THAT OR TWO OF US, OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
I, I JUST, I WANNA SAY THERE'S NO, HERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT HE HAS A CONFLICT SUCH THAT IT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO REQUIRE RECUSAL, IN MY OPINION.
I GUESS MY, MY INQUIRY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS SAID HOW THEY'RE GONNA VOTE ON AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING WITHOUT HEARING INFORMATION AT THE MEETING.
IS THAT THE, I, I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE.
I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE OR DISAGREE.
AM I OUTLINING THE ISSUE CORRECTLY? POTENTIALLY.
MS. MUD, I BELIEVE THAT THE ISSUE IS BOTH THAT COUNCILMAN HAS PRE-JUDGED THE MATTER, AND HE STATED SO PUBLICLY.
NUMBER TWO, HE'S PLACED HIMSELF IN THE POSITION OF BEING A WITNESS.
NUMBER THREE, AND I SAY THIS WITHOUT KNOWING FOR SURE, I BELIEVE, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE COULD BE ANY OPEN MEETING VIOLATIONS BY A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION OF THE CITY, COUN OF A CITY COUNCILMAN, WHICH ULTIMATELY IS A COMMUNICATION THAT REACHES THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE THAT'S A POSSIBLE ISSUE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU NOW AND ADVISE YOU, THIS WAS THE SECOND THING.
WE GOT NOTICE OF THIS INFORMALLY SEVEN DAYS AGO ON A NON-GOVERNMENTAL DAY ON PRESIDENT'S DAY, COUNSEL CONTACTED ME BY TELEPHONE.
AND SHE EMAILED TO ME A TWO AND A HALF INCH STACK OF PAPER
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THAT MAKES UP PART OF THE CITY'S RECORD ON THIS UNDER DUE PROCESS REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT AND UNDER OKLAHOMA CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION SEVEN WE'RE REALLY ENTITLED TO TRUE NOTICE AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE A TRUE HEARING AND MEETING.AND THE OFFICIAL NOTICE WASN'T RECEIVED UNTIL I BELIEVE WEDNESDAY LAST WEEK FROM THE CITY I, AND THEN ACTUALLY, WE HAD ABOUT FOUR BUSINESS DAYS AND ABOUT SIX CALENDAR DAYS I WOULD REQUEST.
AND I ADVISED COUNSEL THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS REQUEST EARLIER LAST WEEK, THAT THIS MATTER BE PASSED JUST ONE TIME TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT YOU FOLKS CAN TAKE UP THE FIRST MOTION ON A PROPERLY AGENDIZED, UH, MATTER IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND SO ALL OF US CAN HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY GET THIS ORGANIZED AND TALK TO THE COUNCIL.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, PROCEDURALLY, UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
THE MATTERS IN THIS, CAN I SPEAK, MAYOR? THE MATTERS IN THIS CASE ARE EXTREMELY WELL DOCUMENTED, VOLUMINOUS, AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
SO, COUNCILMAN, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, LET'S DO THIS.
THAT, THAT, WHICH DOCUMENTS MY POINT? THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECESS.
WE'LL, RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
I'D MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
WE HAVE NEED A SECOND? SECOND.
LET'S VOTE ON TAKING A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF BREAK.
I'D DO THAT, MR. MAYOR TO COME OUTTA BREAK AND RECONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL.
THERE WAS TWO REQUESTS FROM OUR APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.
ONE WAS FOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBBINS TO RECUSE HIMSELF.
AND THE SECOND ISSUE WAS TO CONTINUE THE ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS, I THINK IT WAS.
COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THAT, THAT REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT? DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS OR DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH I WOULD LIKE TO, TO PROCEED TONIGHT.
WE, I COULDN'T HEAR THAT MOTION.
IT'S JUST DO WE WANNA CONTINUE OR PROCEED? WHAT DID YOU SAY? PROCEED.
I'M, I'M WITH COUNCILWOMAN PETER.
I THOUGHT SHE WANTED TO PROCEED.
SO THEN WE DO NEED A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO PROCEED, UH, ON AGENDA ITEM.
PROCEED TONIGHT ON AGENDA ITEM NINE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL, ON THAT ITEM, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AS IT IS PRINTED IN OUR AGENDA.
AND WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN HERE IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SERIES OF REPORTS COMING UP.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE CITY STAFF, WE HAVE, UH, POLICE AND FIRE HERE.
AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT IS GONNA BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT.
I'M RANDY ENTZ, UH, A CM OVER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, AS YOU SAID, THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
UH, STAFF REPRESENTING POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE SERVICES, UH, THE CITY'S CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, AND CHRISTIE BATTERSON WITH THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S, UH, THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROPERTY AT 1300 EAST STAIRS.
UH, THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT IN 1988 AS APARTMENTS.
UH, IT HAS 90 UNITS IN IT AT THE TIME.
UH, IT WAS REZONED IN 2019 FOR HOTEL USE.
HOTEL USE, KNOWN AS THE OYO IN 2022, IT WAS REZONED AS A PUD
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TO ALLOW FOR A HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY AND THE HOTEL USE.AND COUNSEL HAS PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED THE PROPERTY AT 18 PUBLIC MEETINGS, DATING FROM DECEMBER OF 2018 TO JANUARY OF 23.
UH, AN UPDATE FROM BUILDING AND FIRE CODE SERVICES.
UH, AN INSPECTION WAS PERFORMED ON JANUARY 29, 20 NINTH.
NOTED THAT THE, UH, SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS WERE NOT TO BE OCCUPIED AND DEFICIENCIES INCLUDED THOSE LISTED ON THE SLIDE, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON THE SAME DATE.
FIRE INSPECTORS WERE ALSO ON SITE WITH A LI LIST OF DEFICIENCIES, ONCE AGAIN, NOTING THAT, UH, THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS WERE TO REMAIN UNOCCUPIED WITH THE DEFICIENCIES YOU SEE THERE AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED IN YOUR MEMO.
UH, POLICE SERVICES FOR CALL, UH, ACTIVITY OF THE SITE HAS INCLUDED 38 TRADITIONAL CALLS, MEANING A CALL WAS PLACED AND AN OFFICER WAS DEPA DISPATCHED TO THE SITE.
AND 24 PROACTIVE POLICE ACTIVITIES, MEANING AN OFFICER PATROLLED THE AREA AS A PART OF THEIR DAILY DUTIES, UM, FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
NO, UH, ACTIVE CASE COMMENT TO INCLUDE ONE TRASH AND INOPERABLE VEHICLE ISSUE, WHICH WAS FIRST NOTED ON JANUARY 26TH OF 24.
LETTERS WERE SENT ON JANUARY 29TH AND FEBRUARY 13TH.
UH, AN INSPECTION THIS MORNING SHOWED THOSE ITEMS HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
HOWEVER, OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE SEEN ON THE SITE MAY, MAY NECESSITATE FURTHER ACTION, UH, SUCH AS GRAFFITI, BROKEN WINDOWS AND FIRE ESCAPES BEING PROPPED.
OPEN TO NAME A FEW, UH, THAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS.
AND AS I SAID, THERE ARE STAFF HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WAS THERE, UH, WAS CODE COMING NEXT OR HE'S, I, I BELIEVE THAT WILL ONLY COME UP IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO HIM.
SO, COUNSEL, MR. SO I HAVE GO AHEAD MR. MOORE.
UH, SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR OUR FIRE AND, UH, POLICE AND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
MIKE FITZGERALD, FIRE DEPARTMENT, JD GER POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, FIRST I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK OUR, UM, OUR, OUR POLICE CHIEF, MR. YOUNGER, JUST KIND OF FOR A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE HISTORY HAS BEEN IN, IN REGARDS TO THE RESPONSES THAT HAVE BEEN, AND THEN IN THE LAST 90 DAYS, UM, AS OCCUPANCY HAS RETURNED, WHAT HAS BEEN SORT OF THE, THE VOLUME OF CALLS AND THE NECESS, THE NEEDED, UH, RESOURCES THAT THIS ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS, UH, ENCUMBERED? YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AS TO THE NATURE OF THE CALLS, UH, IN, IN MY EXPOSURE, THE HISTORY OF IT REALLY BEGINNING IN 2017.
UH, I THINK A MAJORITY OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED AND PROVIDED TO COUNSEL AND A LENGTHY MEMO FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO, UH, I'LL, UH, NOT GO OVER THAT UNLESS Y'ALL WANT ME TO, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A, A LENGTHY LIST OF, OF DIFFERENT NATURES OF CALLS AND VOLUME OF CALLS OF THAT PROPERTY.
UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, I WAS ASKED TO FOCUS ON THE LAST 90 DAYS, UH, SO SINCE DECEMBER THE FIRST OF 2023, AS A SLIDE INDICATED, WE HAD 38 CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, THAT WOULD RANGE FROM SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY TO THEFT OR, OR OTHER CRIMES, BUT CALLS IN WHICH THE POLICE WERE NOTIFIED, UH, OR THE POLICE BECAME AWARE OF AN INCIDENT AT, AT THE PROPERTY THAT WE NEED TO RESPOND TO.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE 38 INCIDENTS, WE HAD 24 ADDITIONAL PROACTIVE PATROLS, UH, WHICH NATURE COULD BE A COMMUNITY POLICING CONTACT.
UH, IT COULD BE JUST A SPECIAL DETAIL, UH, WHERE YOU WENT THERE JUST TO PROVIDE A PRESENCE IN THE AREA, UH, BUT FOR A TOTAL OF, OF, UH, OF 62 CONTACTS.
AND THAT WAS THROUGH FEBRUARY THE 15TH OF THIS YEAR.
UH, LIKE I SAID, VARIETY OF, OF NATURE OF CALLS, BUT, BUT DEFINITELY, UH, UH, 62 TIMES THAT WE'VE DOCUMENTED IN OUR COMPUTER AID DISPATCH THAT WE WERE ON SCENE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE, WE WEREN'T THERE MORE FREQUENTLY.
THOSE ARE JUST CALLS THAT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED IN THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH.
AND SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND, AND THIS MIGHT JUST BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT RIGHT NOW, THE, THE ONLY PART THAT IS OCCUPIED IS PARTIALLY THE FIRST FLOOR, CORRECT? YES, IT'S THE FIRST FLOOR.
IT'S OCCUPIED, UH, BOTH WINGS.
SO WHEN WE'RE EXTRAPOLATING THESE NUMBERS, WHEN WE SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN IN THE LAST JUST 90 DAYS, 62 DIFFERENT POLICE CONTACTS, UH, UTILIZING, UH,
SO POTENTIALLY MOVING FORWARD, WE COULD HAVE THE REST OF THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, IMAGINE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD WANT TO, UM, ALSO DO THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR.
SO IF WE WERE TO DO THE QUICK MATH ON THAT AND TIMES THAT BY, YOU KNOW, QUICK THREE, YOU
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KNOW, THAT COULD LAND US AT 180 CALLS, UH, EVERY, EVERY 90 DAYS UNDER THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT.FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION THOUGH, THAT IT, IT IS THE, ALL OF THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, IN BOTH, BOTH WINGS.
OH, SO ALL FIRST FLOOR IS OCCUPIED, SIR? YEAH, IT'S ROUGHLY, UH, 30, I THINK THERE'S 96 UNITS, UH, IN THE, IN THE COMPLEX TOTAL.
SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE OVER 30.
SO WE'D HAVE ABOUT 60 MORE TO GO, SO YEAH, CORRECT.
IF, UH, THE, THE LANDOWNER REQUIRES ABOUT 64, UH, CONTACTS EVERY 90 DAYS, YOU GO UP TO THE FULL DEAL, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE UTILIZING 180.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THE NUMBER CORRECT.
JUST IF WE GET ALL FULL AS FAR AS, UH, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, OCCUPIED THERE, WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO 180.
ON THE FIRE SIDE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING ON A COUPLE THINGS, ONE IS WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, UM, PREVIOUS AND THEN, UH, THE HISTORY OF IT, AND THEN SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED TO DATE, UH, HISTORY AND FOR US, WE'RE PRETTY BIG WITH THE, UH, FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS, UH, IN THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE'VE HAD FIRE ALARM ISSUES, UH, THE, UH, FIRE ALARM FA, FALSE ALARMS AS WELL.
UH, TH THOSE WOULD, WE, WE WERE RECEIVING THEM DAILY, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
BUT, UH, UH, SPRINKLER SYSTEM DUE FOR ANNUAL INSPECTION OR DEFICIENCIES WITHIN THAT AS WELL.
UH, FIRE DOORS AND EGRESS ROUTES, UH, WERE COMPROMISED AS WELL.
AND THOSE ARE SOME, SOME BIG THINGS FOR US THAT, THAT ARE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
SO, SINCE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN OPEN, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND PARTICULARLY YOU ALL RECEIVED A CALL BECAUSE THERE WAS A, A CALL FOR POTENTIAL SMOKE PRESENT.
THERE WAS A, UH, CALL, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, THAT WAS, UH, SMOKE IN THE STRUCTURE.
SO IN A SMOKING STRUCTURE, YOU GUYS, AS FAR AS THE RESOURCES, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OR IF ANYONE IS INJURED OR SMOKE INHALATION, YOU'RE GONNA SEND, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BEEN CALLED THE CALVARY, IS THAT FULL STRUCTURE FIRE RESPONSE.
SO FULL STRUCTURE FIRE RESPONSE.
SO THIS PARTICULAR DEAL THAT, UH, UH, REQUIRED FULL RESOURCES BROUGHT TO BEAR, UH, WHEN IT WAS THERE, UH, WHAT HAPPENED? I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO CLEAR EACH FLOOR, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WAS THERE STAFF ON STITE, UH, OR SOMEBODY WITH KEYS OR ANYBODY ABLE TO ASSIST WHEN THE CAVALRY ARRIVED? I WAS NOT THERE, BUT FROM READING THE REPORT, UH, THERE WAS NO, UH, NO PERSONNEL WITH THE PROPERTY, UH, OR WORKERS THERE.
SO NO WORKER, NO ONE RESPONSIBLE.
AND SO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR THE LIFE AND SAFETY OF THOSE RESIDENTS, WHEN THERE'S SMOKE PRESENT, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NOT SOME TYPE OF SMUGGLING FLYER OR SOME TYPE OF DANGER.
UM, YOUR, UH, UH, YOU, YOU HAD TO ACCESS THE THIRD FLOOR, WAS IT, UH, IT WAS LOCKED.
AND SO HOW DID YOU, WHAT DID YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO? UH, THEY FORCED ENTRY TO THE DOOR.
SO THEY USED, UH, UH, SOME TOOLS AND, AND SPREADERS TO, UH, GAIN ACCESS TO THE THIRD FLOOR.
SO I, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MIDDLE STAIRWELL.
SO I KNOW IN THE PAST, BECAUSE OF A VOLUMINOUS NUMBER OF ISSUES, AND THAT THERE, IT WAS DECLARED A PUBLIC NUISANCE THAT COUNSEL WAS REQUIRED THAT THERE BE SECURITY ON SITE.
BUT UPON YOUR ARRIVAL, THERE WASN'T SECURITY, NOR WAS THERE ANYBODY THAT COULD HELP YOU ACCESS, EXCEPT BY BREAKING DOWN THE DOOR, THERE WAS NO SECURITY THERE THAT NIGHT.
BUT I, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN SECURITY ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
UM, DO YOU KNOW, UH, CHIEF, HAS THERE BEEN ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PROFESSIONAL SECURITY, ANYBODY AS FAR AS FROM THAT, THAT'S BEEN ONSITE AS A, AS A POINT OF CLEAT CONTACT OR, OR SOMEBODY THERE THAT'S 24 7 THAT WHEN YOUR GUYS ARRIVE OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE NOTICED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS? OKAY.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CONTRACTED CURRENTLY.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT STAGES, UH, IN DEALING WITH THIS PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE HAD, UH, PROFESSIONAL SECURITY STAFF ON SITE WHEN THEY'VE HAD JUST OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF THAT THEY IDENTIFIED AS SECURITY STAFF.
SO I THINK IT'S RANGED AT TIMES, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT MY CURRENT UNDERSTANDING THAT ANYONE SERVES IN THAT POSITION NOW.
SO, UM, UH, BACK TO THE, ON THE FIRE INSPECTION SIDE, ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AS A MUNICIPALITY, WHEN YOU GUYS GO INTO A PROPERTY AND SOMETHING IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THAT CREATES A RISK, A HEALTH LIFE SAFETY ISSUE.
FROM A FIRE STANDPOINT, YOU'RE ABLE, YOUR OFFICE AND, AND YOU, UH, YOUR TEAM IS ABLE TO ISSUE A NOTICE OR A CITATION WITH A FINE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T START THERE.
WE, UH, ISSUE THE, THE INSPECTION REPORT, AND THEN THEY HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS, USUALLY 30 DAYS TO, TO GET THAT WITHIN COMPLIANCE, THAT THEY'RE STILL NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEN IT'S ANOTHER WEEK AND THAT THEY'RE STILL NOT IN COMPLIANCE THREE DAYS.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A MULTI-STEP PROCESS BEFORE YOU MIGHT EVEN GET TO THAT CITATION AND FINE, YOUR POSTURES, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET TO A LEVEL OF, I JUST WANNA GET COMPLIANCE.
PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD BE YOUR, AND THE SAFETY AND THE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES DEALT WITH SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS A SAFE PLACE TO, TO LIVE, WORK, OR PLAY.
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SO WHEN THOSE GO AND THEY GET CITED, EVENTUALLY THAT'S GONNA GO TO OUR MUNICIPAL COURT.A FINE IS GONNA BE SENT, ASSESSED, UH, TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON, THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PROPERTY.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SINCE 2017, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, DECEMBER 9TH, 2016, UH, THERE HAS BEEN NOTED BY THE MUNICIPAL COURT, UM, OVER 100, AND THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD OVER 116, I BELIEVE, UM, DIFFERENT LIFE SAFETY CITATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SPECIFIC TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND STANDING HERE IN FEBRUARY 26TH, 2024, ALL OF THOSE ARE UNPAID.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, ADJUDICATED AS GUILTY OR ADJUDICATED AS, UM, UH, CONVICTED ON THAT OR, OR, OR FOUND NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
UH, BUT THERE WE HAVE WELL OVER 100.
IS THAT, IS THAT ORDINARY IN YOUR, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE? ON, ON OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT? NO.
AND, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, WORKING WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AND THE PROPERTY, UH, I, I THINK MY LAST CITATION THERE WAS IN 21.
AND THEN I DO SHOW ONE AS OF RECENTLY THAT WAS MADE JUST WITHIN THIS DEAL, AND IT PROBABLY RELATES TO SENDING THE CALVARY AND A BUNCH OF OTHER DEALS.
BUT ON FEBRUARY 6TH, EVEN PRIOR TO THAT, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CITED FOR MORE THAN FIVE, MORE THAN FIVE FALSE ALARMS WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
AND THEY, THIS ISN'T INCLUDING INTEREST BACK SINCE 2017.
WE'RE DEALING WITH THE PROPERTY WITH OVER AT MUNICIPAL COURT TODAY, WANT OVER WELL OVER 100, UH, VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS YOUR TOOL FOR COMPLIANCE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET THE ATTENTION, BUT ULTIMATELY THE LIFE SAFETY TO PROTECT CITIZENS AND, AND ALL THAT.
UM, CHIEF YOUNG, JUST A FEW MORE, JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO YOU HAVEN'T NOTED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS ANY SECURITY, UM, THAT, THAT YOU'VE, UH, BEEN, BEEN ABLE TO ENCOUNTER OR GET ANY HELP ON.
UM, I WOULD NOTE, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD VERY WELL.
UM, I FIND IT TO BE 0.6 MILES AWAY FROM MY KIDS, UH, WHERE THEY WENT, UH, TO PRE-K AND KINDERGARTEN AT NORTHERN HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
IS IT CORRECT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SITUATED ROUGHLY 0.6 MILES FROM NORTHERN HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND FROM, UM, UH, UH, AND FROM, UM, EXCUSE ME, AND FROM, UH, UCO? SOUNDS CORRECT TO ME.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD SAY, COUNSEL, ONE OF MY DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO BE AWARE OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE AN OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL CALL OR NEED FOR SERVICES, OR HAVE CITATIONS THAT ARE DOCUMENTED OVER AND OVER, OVER AGAIN, COUNTING OVER 100 THAT WOULD POSE, UH, A LIFE AND SAFETY THREAT AS A MATTER OF JUST GOOD COMMUNITY POLICING.
UM, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S, FOR EXAMPLE, IN CHARGE OF MAINTENANCE OF AN APARTMENT THAT HAS KEYS AND ACCESS, OR IS ABLE TO GO IN AND, AND FIX THINGS ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS, UM, WOULD YOU BE, WOULD YOU HOPE THAT THAT PERSON IS OF HIGH MORAL CHARACTER? YES.
UM, ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PART, JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ON THAT.
SO I SHOW HERE THAT, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE OUR SYSTEM IS WORKING AND THAT WE HAVE THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS 30,000 AND UNPAID, UM, UH, UH, HONOR, GO AHEAD, IVAN.
SO, IVAN SMITH, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR, CITY OF EDMOND, THE, THE, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HAS OVER 30,000 AND OVER 100 BACK TO 2016, UH, MUNICIPAL COURT VIOLATIONS THAT ARE UNPAID.
IS THAT NORMAL IN THAT SCOPE OF WORK? DO YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE OVER A HUNDRED WITH 30,000? NO, SIR.
HOW EXTRAORDINARY WOULD YOU MAYBE, UH, PROFESSIONALLY SORT OF CATEGORIZE THIS? IS, IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WITHIN REASON, THAT SOMEBODY GETS A HUNDRED VIOLATIONS OVER A ALMOST A 10 YEAR PERIOD THAT DOESN'T PAY 30,000 IN FINES? I, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT EXTREMELY UNCHARACTERISTIC OF THE PROPERTIES HERE IN EDMOND.
AND SO CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE FOR THE LIFE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT BE THOSE NORTHERN HILLS, UH, PRE-KS, KINDERGARTNERS THROUGH FIFTH GRADE THAT ARE WALKING BY EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHETHER IT BE OUR UCO STUDENTS OR STAFF, OR WHETHER IT BE THE VETERANS OR OTHERS THAT ARE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, IN THERE.
AND SO, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE SOUGHT FOR COMPLIANCE OVER, OVER, OVER 10 YEARS, BUT WHAT IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT APPEARS THAT THEY'RE NOT, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID.
SO, SO WHAT ELSE, WHAT ELSE CAN I DO AS A CITY COUNSELOR OF THIS BEING IN WARD ONE? IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY HASN'T TRIED OVER THERE THAT YOU WOULD SAY IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION? UH, SIR, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE PACKET THAT MADELINE SAWYER HAS PREPARED AND PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU ILLUSTRATES THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION.
AND I, I BELIEVE THAT SHE'S ON TRACK
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IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE THAT NEEDS TO HANDLE IT.I WOULD NOTE PER THE CHIEF, AS FAR AS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING PEOPLE OF MORAL CHARACTER, I, I, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, A GENTLEMAN THIS LAST MONTH WHO BECAME A SUBJECT OF AN INVESTIGATION OF, UH, INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, UM, HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY EMPLOYED AT THIS LOCATION AS THE MAINTENANCE WORKER, UM, AND HAD, UM, ACCESS THEREFORE TO THE PROPERTY.
AND I BELIEVE AS PART OF MAYBE AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, THOUGH I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD A CONTRACT, IT AS MORE OF A HANDSHAKE DEAL, UH, ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE A RESIDENCE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN THIS SUBJECT, UH, AS HE BECAME THE TARGET OF THIS INVESTIGATION, UH, IS IT TRUE OR A MATTER OF FACT THAT HE WAS FOUND IN POSSESSION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, DISTRIBUTION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND, UM, UH, WOULD BE CONSIDERED A HANDS-ON ACTOR, MEANING A MANUFACTURER OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DETAILS, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PERSON WAS CHARGED WITH POSSESSION AND DISTRIBUTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW, COUNSEL? I'M SORRY.
I SAID COUNSEL, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF RIGHT NOW? NOT AT THIS, NO.
UH, I'M GONNA GIVE THE APPLICANT THAT A PROPERTY OWNER, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND AND SPEAK NOW, SIR.
MR. MAYOR AGAIN, DANNY SHATTERED FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
DO I GET TO ASK THOSE FOLKS QUESTIONS LIKE HE DID, LIKE HE WAS PROSECUTING JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO? HE BEING COUNCILMAN ROBBINS, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR, YOU ASK THE COUNSEL AND THEN WE CAN DIRECT IF NECESSARY THAT QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED BY THE VERY WELL STAFF.
SO I'M GONNA START OUT BY NOTING WE HAVE A RECORD BEING MADE, OF COURSE, THAT THE POINT THAT I MADE REGARDING THE NECESSITY OF COUNCILMAN ROBBINS BE BEING DISQUALIFIED OR RECUSING IS MADE ON THE RECORD BECAUSE HE BECAME THE PROSECUTOR ASKING QUESTIONS ON AT LEAST 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, AT LEAST SIX TIMES.
HE REFERRED TO MY UNDERSTANDING, QUOTE, MY UNDERSTANDING HE'S ALREADY GOT AN UNDERSTANDING THE WAY HE WANTS IT TO BE.
THEN HE SAID THAT HE FOUND CERTAIN THINGS LIKE HE'S ALREADY MADE FINDINGS, PREJUDGING THINGS WAS, AND WE WILL TAKE THAT UP AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WITH THE APPROPRIATE FORUM.
THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD ASK OF THE COUNCIL, IF THEY'D ASKED THE POLICE CHIEF, THERE WAS THIS DISCUSSION A FEW MOMENTS AGO ABOUT HIGH IMAL CHARACTER.
COUNCILMAN ROBBINS SAID IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT A PERSON WHO WAS A MAINTENANCE WORKER AND USED TO RESIDE ON THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH SOME TYPE OF PORNOGRAPHY.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT THE POLICE CHIEF COULD SAY WAS HE WAS CHARGED WITH POSSESSION AND DISTRIBUTION.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHO IS THAT PERSON AND WHERE ARE THE CHARGES? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT ONLINE RIGHT NOW.
SO I'D ASK THAT QUESTION IF I'M ALLOWED TO, OR I POSE IT TO THE COUNSEL, UH, HAVING THEN I WILL SIMPLY TRY AND INCORPORATE MUCH OF WHAT NEED TO BE SAID IN RESPONDING TO SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THAT INOPERABLE VEHICLE THAT THE COUNCILMAN WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS A FLAT TIRE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITATION SAYS.
AN INOPERABLE BEAT VEHICLE UNDER STATE LAW AND UNDER EVEN EDMUND LAW, DOES NOT INCLUDE A FLAT TIRE THAT'S JUST HUNTING FOR THINGS
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COMING ON THE PROPERTY AND SEEING A FLAT TIRE THAT CAN BE FIXED AND WAS FIXED AND IT'S GONE.HE WANTS TO TELL YOU ABOUT $30,000 WORTH OF UNPAID FINES.
BUT COUNCILMAN ROBBINS DOESN'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT.
SEE, HE'S NOT THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SIR, PLEASE ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
I'M LOOKING STRAIGHT AT YOU, SIR.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS MADELINE SAWYER FOR THE RECORD.
BUT STEVE MURDOCH MADE THE DEAL.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN YOU REFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, IT'S MADELINE SAWYER.
I WILL REFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT WAS ON THE CASE AT THE TIME.
AND STEVE MURDOCH MADE A DEAL WITH US AS RECENTLY AS JUST THIS PAST FALL, SO THAT A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY COULD GET PAID BACK TO THE CITY OF EDMUND.
BUT I DON'T THINK COUNCILMAN ROBBINS KNOWS THAT, AND PERHAPS THE COUNCIL DOESN'T.
BUT THOSE DEALS HAPPEN WITH THE PROSECUTORS.
AND EVER SINCE EDMUND HAS DONE EVERYTHING IT CAN TO PROHIBIT OR PREVENT THIS PROPERTY FROM GETTING BACK ON TRACK.
NOW, THE FACTS ARE AS FOLLOWS, THIS PROPERTY, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, CONSIDER A LONG RECTANGULAR BUILDING.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 15 UNITS IN EACH WING ON EACH FLOOR.
SO THERE'S 30 UNITS ON EACH FLOOR.
THE CITY OF EDMUND BLESSED THE FIRST FLOOR DURING THE PAST 12 MONTHS, AND IT HAS 30 RESIDENTS.
THE ONLY REASON THAT THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE THIRD FLOOR HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, PAST INSPECTION AT THIS TIME, ELEVATORS HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
THEY WERE SPRINKLING SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
AND I WILL TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY, THESE ARE APPROXIMATIONS, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE.
SO THAT THE COUNSEL WILL KNOW.
IN ABOUT OCTOBER OF THIS PAST YEAR, MY CLIENTS, DR.
NULA, MRS. NULA ACQUIRED A LITTLE OVER $2.4 MILLION IN PRIVATE FINANCING TO HELP UPGRADE THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, AND THEY'RE PAYING MONEY ON IT.
EVERY MONTH THEY HAVE PUT OUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE ELEVATOR, ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON WATER TANKS, HOT WATER TANKS, AND EVERYTHING THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
ABOUT $10,000 ON THE SPRINKLING SYSTEMS. THIS IS ALL IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS ROUGHLY.
UM, THEY HAVE REFURBISHED ALL OF THE ROOMS AND SPENT ABOUT $200,000 THERE.
THAT'S A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN THIS BUILDING.
NOW, THEY DIDN'T DO THAT 'CAUSE THEY WANT THIS TO BE A NUISANCE.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE DEFINITION OF NUISANCE DEFINITION BY THE STATE AND DE DEFINITION BY HERE AT THE CITY OF EDMOND.
A BRIEF HISTORY THAT WAS NOT BROUGHT OUT THIS MATTER, THIS PROPERTY WAS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FROM JANUARY OF 2022 TO JANUARY OF 2023.
AND THE MATTERS WERE CONTINUED FROM TIME TO TIME ALLOWING FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN.
NOW, AT THAT TIME, THE PROPERTY WAS LABELED AND BEING RUN AS A HOTEL, THEN IT WAS REZONED BY THE CITY.
THE, THE NARU BROUGHT IT HERE, OF COURSE, AND THEN IT WAS REZONED TO, LEMME CORRECT YOU ON THAT, SIR.
THE, THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME AND THE ATTORNEY AT THAT TIME CAME TO US AND ASKED FOR A REZONING AND WE APPROVED IT.
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ASKED FOR THE REZONING? THAT'S WHAT I SAID.I'M JUST, THEY THEY BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY AND THE CITY REZONED IT SO THAT IT IS NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND REZONED.
SO IT'S EITHER MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING OR HOTEL AT THE END OF JANUARY.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
BUT AT THE END OF JANUARY, IN 2023 WAS THE JANUARY 9TH MEETING.
THE LAST UPDATE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WAS BY THEN CITY ATTORNEY STEVE MURDOCH, WHO ADVISED THAT THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT THE STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED THAT THE PROPERTY NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED A NUISANCE MOTION WAS MADE TO AUTHORIZE THE STAFF TO NO LONGER BRING THE ITEM FOR REVIEW BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS A NUISANCE AND THE, AND TO FOLLOW NORMAL PERMITTING PROCEDURES AS THE PROPERTY USES CHANGED.
THAT'S FROM THE MINUTES OF THIS COUNCIL, JANUARY 9TH, 2023.
SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF HAD DECLARED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS NOT A NUISANCE.
SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES INTO PLAY AFTER JANUARY 9TH, 2023.
HAVING A HISTORY THAT GOES BACK TO 2014 IS NOT VALID.
IT WASN'T A NUISANCE ON JANUARY 9TH, 2023.
SO THEREFORE SOMETHING NEW HAD TO HAPPEN.
AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE LAST APPROXIMATELY 12 MONTHS OR SO HAVE BEEN REZONING A LOT OF MONEY GOING INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND NOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE BEHIND ME THAT I WILL INTRODUCE TO YOU FROM A GROUP THAT SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH CALLED ZOE HEALTH CENTERS.
IT'S ZOE ZOE HEALTH CENTERS HEALING CENTER.
YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN FOR NOT KNOWING, BUT GO AHEAD.
THE LADY THAT JUST SPOKE IS MS. JOE MCGUFFIN.
MS. MCGUFFIN ISS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ZOEY HEALING CENTERS.
THEY HAVE HEALING CENTERS ALL OVER THE METRO METROPOLITAN AREA.
WE HAVE ARRANGED OVER THE PAST, OH, TWO MONTHS APPROXIMATELY FOR HEALING CENTERS TO TAKE OVER OPERATION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS SLATED TO HAPPEN THIS COMING SATURDAY, MARCH ONE.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK MS. MCGUFFIN TO COME UP AND FILL YOU IN ON WHAT THAT PLAN, WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR SITUATION IS AND WHO THEY REALLY ARE.
BUT THE PLAN IS FOR ZOE HEALING CENTERS TO TAKE OVER THE PRO OPERATION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT MEANS HANDS ON 24 7, SECURITY 24 7.
IT ALSO MEANS THEY'RE, WHAT THEY DO, AND I THINK SHE'LL EMBELLISH UPON THIS, THEY WORK AROUND THE METROPLEX TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE OR PEOPLE IN NEED.
NOW, MY CLIENTS ARE STILL GONNA BE FUNDING.
BUT ZOE HEALING CENTERS WILL BE BRINGING IN PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW ARE AVAILABLE.
THEY ARE A NONPROFIT CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION.
THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2012.
AND THEIR JOB, WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY CALL IT THEIR MISSION, IS TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE STREETS AND PROVIDE THEM A PLACE TO LIVE.
THEY WILL BE OVERSEEING RENOVATIONS TO THE KITCHEN AREA, AND THERE'S A GENERAL RECREATIONAL AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO WINGS, UH, OF THE TWO SIDES THAT YOU'D CALL IT A, A REC ROOM, A RECREATION
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ROOM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO UPGRADE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.ONE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE, ON JANUARY 29TH OF THIS YEAR, AS CHIEF FITZGERALD MENTIONED, THERE WERE INSPECTIONS PERFORMED AT THE PROPERTY REGARDING SPRINKLING SYSTEMS, WATER TANKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THERE WAS A LAUNDRY LIST, IF YOU WILL, A CHECKLIST THAT WAS PROVIDED, SEE IF I HAVE IT NEARBY, A CHECKLIST OF 2025 THINGS THAT NEEDED, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAID, OR THAT INSPECTION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT SAID NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I THINK THAT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING'S DONE.
THEY'RE WAITING FOR SPRINKLING SYSTEM PERSONNEL TO COME OUT WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR SO TO GREEN TAG THE SPRINKLING SYSTEM.
HOT WATER TANKS HAVE BEEN GREEN TAGGED, EX FIRE EXTINGUISHERS HAVE BEEN GREEN TAGGED MICROWAVES ARE IN PLACE.
FURNITURE THAT CHIEF FITZGERALD DID NOT THINK SHOULD BE IN THERE BECAUSE IT HAD SOILING ON THE MATTRESSES HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THERE'S A LOT OF COST INVOLVED.
LET ASK YOU A QUESTION RIGHT THERE.
YOU SAID THERE WAS MATTRESSES WITH SOILING ON IT? STAINS, YEAH, JUST STAINS.
AND WERE THOSE BEING USED BY ANYONE OR WERE THEY JUST OUT STACKED SOMEWHERE? THEY WERE SITTING IN THE ROOMS. THEY WERE JUST KIND OF STACKED UP, BUT NOW THEY'RE NOT.
SOME OF THEM ARE STILL ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN THE ROOMS. THEY'LL HAVE, IF THEY'RE STILL ON THE PROPERTY, THEY WILL HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE REMOVED, BUT MOST OF THEM I BELIEVE HAVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, COUNCILMAN.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ROOMS AND ELEVATOR WORKS.
DO WE HAVE A, I JUST WANTED TO ASK OUR COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE AS FAR AS IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL ACTIVE ELEVATOR PERMIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR COUNSEL? KIRSTEN WOODINGTON WOULD KNOW, BUT ALSO I UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO LEMME TRY TO GET THIS SOME PER PERSPEC PERSPECTIVE FOR THE PAST YEAR.
THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP.
CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? I, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO FOCUS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'LL GET CLOSER TO THE MIC.
THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE LOCATION 1 3 0 0 HEIRS THAT WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE AND FIRE CALLS BACK TO THAT LOCATION OVER THE PAST HOWEVER LONG THE PERIOD OF TIME YOU WANNA SAY WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WHICH ARE DOCUMENTED POLICE AND FIRE AND FIRST RESPONDER CALLS THERE.
ON A CERTAIN DAY WE SAID, OKAY, THINGS LOOK GOOD.
WE, THE APPLICANT, WHICH WAS A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY, CAME AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THE COUNSEL AT THAT TIME SAID, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
SO WHEN I PUT THAT ON A WHITEBOARD RIGHT NOW, WHAT WAS SAID THEN AND WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW OR IS NOT HAPPENING? I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IS WE HAVE A, WE NORMALLY HAVE A PUNCH LIST WHEN YOU CALL IT A LIST HERE, I CALL IT A PUNCH LIST RIGHT HERE.
PUNCH LIST WHERE THEY, THESE ARE THE THINGS AND OUR STAFF WILL COME THROUGH AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
OUR POLICE AND FIRE WILL GIVE US A CALL ON, UH, REPORT ON ALL THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO DO.
MR. MAYOR, AFTER THIS PUNCH LIST CAME OUT, THAT WAS JANUARY 29TH AND I MIGHT BE OFF A FEW DAYS.
I SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH CHIEF FITZGERALD AND HE TOLD ME THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME OUT AND CHECK FOUR OR FIVE UNITS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE READY AT THAT TIME.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE 15 UNITS AT ONE TIME, READY, WHICH WAS BASICALLY HALF OR ONE WING ON ONE FLOOR.
I SPOKE WITH ALSO THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, CHAIRPERSON.
I BELIEVE HER NAME IS KIRSTEN.
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AND SHE ALSO ECHOED THAT THEY WOULD RATHER BE, HAVE COME OUT, UH, IN FORCE AND THERE WAS BACK IN JANUARY, THERE WERE SCHEDULED TIMES FOR THEM TO COME OUT.AND I BELIEVE THEY DID COME OUT.
AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE JANUARY 29TH TIME.
BUT IT IS READY FOR THE, THE DEPARTMENTS TO COME BACK AND REINSPECT, AS I MENTIONED, I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER DAY OR SO TO GET THE SPRINKLING SYSTEM GREEN TAGGED THERE.
WERE ON THE SPRINKLING SYSTEM, AS I UNDERSTAND LITTLE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED ON THE LITTLE SPIGOTS THAT OF HANG OUT.
I'M SORRY, MAYOR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UM, ARE WE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FURNITURE AND AIR CONDITIONINGS HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE CALLS, MULTIPLE POLICE CALLS FOR THAT ARE THREATENING THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING.
AND AROUND THAT BUILDING WE'RE CALLED TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE CALLS, BOTH, UM, FALSE ALARMS, WHICH TAKE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AWAY FROM TRUE CALLS FOR KEEPING THEM SAFE AND LEGITIMATE FIRE DEPARTMENT CALLS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE CALLS TO THIS AREA.
MAYOR, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, IT IS.
AND THAT'S, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FURNITURE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOILED MATTRESSES.
AS DISGUSTING AS THAT IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREATENING THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING AND THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING THAT BUILDING.
I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS.
YOU CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO.
I HAVE MY ATTORNEY RIGHT HERE.
SHE EMAILED ME EVERY SINGLE, ALL OF US.
EVERY SINGLE CALL THAT WAS MADE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ABATEMENT FOR A DILAPIDATED OR UNSAFE.
UNSAFE, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SOILED LINENS AND SOILED MATTRESSES.
THERE'S THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE, MA'AM, TO BRING IT TO CODE.
I APPRECIATE IT IF YOU DIDN'T INTERRUPT HER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE.
THERE HAS BEEN, THIS IS TERRIBLE.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY AND YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH LITTLE THING YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LITTLE BABY SPRINKLER HEADS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN THERE BECAUSE OF POLICE CALLS AND FIRE CALLS.
I'M NOT EVEN STARTING TO BRING UP CODE.
I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE.
LET ME ASK MAYOR, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION HERE.
DO WE HAVE THE REPORTS FROM ALL DOL, RIGHT? PARDON? ON THE ELEVATORS? NO, I, I'M SAYING WHEN WE HANDLED THIS ISSUE BEFORE WE HAD A, THERE WAS A SYSTEMATIC PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH THAT THERE WERE THESE VIOLATIONS, X, Y, AND Z.
UH, WHAT, WHAT THE WHAT THE SPECIFIC VIOLATION WHEN IT OCCURRED, WHEN IT, AND WHEN IT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED.
AND WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND THEN WE WENT OUR, OUR ATTORNEYS WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE ATTORNEY OF THAT TIME AND WORKED ON OTHER SOLUTIONS AND WORKED WITH OUR STAFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT SAME TYPE OF FORMALITY WITH THIS SO THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL ON THE SAME CHECKLIST.
THAT, THAT IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS THERE AT THE, AT THE SITE, THAT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME VIOLATIONS IN OUR HAND THAT WE ALL HAVE IF THEY'VE BEEN CORRECTED, THAT WE ALL HAVE THAT SAME LIST IN OUR HAND, THAT THEY'RE CORRECTED.
AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND THAT WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION AND WE CAN JUST LINE IT OUT AND SAY, OKAY, IS THIS WHAT WE WANT HERE? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY FROM A YEAR, FOR THE 10 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, IT HASN'T GOTTEN BETTER.
AND THAT IS THE CONCERN OF THIS COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.
IT HAS IT, IT HASN'T GOTTEN BETTER, WHAT WAS TOLD TO US A YEAR AGO.
WE'RE RIGHT BACK HERE WITH THE SAME ISSUES.
THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO BACK TO THE RIGIDITY THAT WE HAD IN THE BEGINNING.
THAT WE HAVE THE CHECKLIST THAT WE LOOK AT EACH THING FROM OUR STAFF SO WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME SHEET OF PAPER AND SAY, SO WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN VIOLATIONS IN THE PAST YEAR.
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MANY.WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP AND WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, I, I APPRECIATE SOME ORGANIZATION COMING IN SAYING THAT THEY WERE GONNA RUN IT.
BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU SAID THAT A YEAR AGO.
WELL, THE ATTORNEY, I'M SORRY FOR YOU.
IT WAS THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS THE, THE PREVIOUS ATTORNEY THAT WAS SITTING THERE.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE MINUTES THAT TALKED ABOUT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION COMING IN THERE.
IT WAS IN OUR DISCUSSION, SIR.
SO COUNSEL, I I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE, BUT, BUT THE THING IS, I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE POINT OF WHY WE'RE HERE IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LIVING UP TO WHAT WAS TOLD TO THIS COUNCIL A YEAR AGO.
IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE WOULD LIKE A VERY SYSTEMATIC APPROACH ON HOW TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUNCH LIST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO GO BY EXCEPT WHAT THEY GAVE US.
THESE ARE REVOLVING PUNCH LISTS.
I THINK IT'S THE PATTERN, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND, AND COUNCILMAN STUDENT, UH, THREE OF THE FIVE OF US WERE ON COUNCIL AT THE MEETING YOU REFERENCED AND ALL THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE STATUS.
WE'VE SEEN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK I'VE SEEN THE OWNERS ACTUALLY COME INTO THE CHAMBERS.
UM, AND WE WERE PROMISED THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S SO FRUSTRATING TO US, IS IT SEEMS LIKE JUST ENOUGH IS DONE TO WHERE THEN IT WAS RELEASED.
AND THEN WE GO BACK TO THE SAME PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR WITH CODE VIOLATIONS, NOT TAKING CARE OF THINGS.
I DO WANNA ASK ABOUT THE ELEVATOR PERMITS.
IT'S, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE NOT CURRENT EVEN AFTER THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN EXPENDED THAT YOU SAID.
I WAS TOLD THAT, BUT I MEAN IT'S, THESE ARE, I MEAN, I TALKED TO THE ELEVATOR PEOPLE, BUT I HAVEN'T TALKED TO 'EM FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
SO WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, CORRECT.
KIRSTEN LIVINGTON BUILDING AND FIRE CODE SERVICES.
WE SPOKE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
THEY HAD GIVEN THEM A TEMPORARY PERMISSION.
TEMPORARY PERMISSION TO OCCU TO OPERATE THE ELEVATOR FOR 60 DAYS.
I BELIEVE IT EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY 12TH, FEBRUARY 10TH.
AND IT WAS, THEY HAD NOT BEEN CALLED IN FOR AN INSPECTION.
AND IT WAS ON THAT DAY THAT IT EXPIRED THAT WE SPOKE WITH THEM.
I'VE BEEN PLAYING PHONE TAG WITH THEM ALL DAY, BUT I HAVE NOT GOT AN UPDATE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR TELLING US WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE BEEN CALLED BACK OUT FOR APPROVAL ON THAT.
NARU CAN ADDRESS THAT, IF YOU WOULD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THIS PATTERN OF EXCUSES AND JUST ENOUGH.
AND WE'RE BACK, AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE'RE IN THE SAME SPOT WE WERE IN, YOU KNOW, 14 MONTHS AGO, UM, AT LEAST THE THIRD ATTORNEY.
AND THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT WERE GONNA BE DONE ARE NOT BEING DONE.
AND IT'S, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR HAVE SAID.
I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UH, IN ADDITION FROM OUR PUBLIC, AT LEAST THOSE THAT HAVE MAKING THE EFFORT TO COME AND, AND 'CAUSE I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC IS GONNA COME.
I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET, I'M TRYING TO GET OUR STRUCTURE UP HERE.
I MEAN THE, BUT THE PUBLIC'S GOING TO, I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SAY.
THEY'RE GONNA SAY A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
I'M TRYING TO GET SOME STRUCTURE ON HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I, COUNCILMAN ROBERTS, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE.
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DEVELOP SOME STRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT TONIGHT, BUT WE HAVE A STRUCTURED WAY TO GO FORWARD THAT WE CAN MOVE AND MAKE A DECISION OR DECISIONS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
MR. MAYOR, DO YOU, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO FOLLOW.
I MEAN, I, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE STRUCTURE AS THE WARD CITY ONE COUNCILMAN PART OF IT IS, I PERCEIVE THAT THERE IS, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND THE FEEDBACK AND THE VOLUMINOUS INFORMATION THAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IN THE PATTERN THAT COUNCILOR MUG SAID THAT THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
IF THAT IS TO AN EXTENT ENOUGH, I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO TONIGHT MOVE TO DECLARE THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE TO, TO HELP ME BETTER INFORM ME IF THEY ALSO FEEL THAT IT'S A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
BECAUSE I WANT TO BE INFORMED WHETHER OR NOT ACTION IS NEEDED TONIGHT, WHICH IS INVESTED IN OUR POWERS, OR IF WE WANT TO FOLLOW DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.
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I HEAR YOU.LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT, THIS PROPERTY OWNER, PARDON ME, PROPERTY OWNER.
PROPERTY OWNER, GET THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY BESIDES BRINGING UP THE, THE, THE GROUP THAT'S THAT YOU WANNA RUN THIS? UH, IS THERE ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY BEFORE WE ALLOW, UM, THE CITIZENS TO SAY SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN DEVELOP A STRUCTURE? BECAUSE THAT'S MY END GOAL TONIGHT.
AT ONE POINT I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE ACTUAL DEFINITIONS OF NUISANCE.
WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE OUR OWN COUNSEL.
WE DON'T NEED YOUR, I DON'T, DO WE NEED TO CONSULT HIS LEGAL TRAINING? I'M PRETTY SURE I GET TO MAKE ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, BUT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO FOREGO THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I DO THINK THAT IT IS NOT A WASTE OF THE COUNSEL'S TIME TO HEAR FROM MS. GRIFFIN AND UNDERSTAND THEIR, THEIR PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.
OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING ELSE.
I MEAN, I AM CURIOUS, IS THERE A CONTRACT WITH THIS GROUP TO HAVE THEM BEGIN THEN, THEN LET'S LET THEM DO THE PRESENTATION.
SO AS FAR AS CONTRACT, THE ANSWER, I WAS UNSURE THAT YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GONNA HAVE THEM COME UP.
SO, WELL, I WAS PLANNING ON YOU HAVING THEM COME UP OR NOT COME UP.
I WAS, I WAS INITIALLY LEANING NOT FOR THEM TO COME UP.
'CAUSE I WAS WANTING, WANTING TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT RIGHT.
BUT, UM, COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO, LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM.
AND ALSO, I ONLY SAID IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM 'EM, THEY'RE HERE.
I SAID THEY ARE HERE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ELSE WANNA ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? ARE THEY UNDER CONTRACT? IS THERE A CONTRACT WITH THAT GROUP TO DO CERTAIN SERVICES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING DONE? THERE IS A, A VERBAL THAT I HAVE NOT WRITTEN YET, BUT I NEED TO WRITE IT.
AND THE VERBAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND MET FACE-TO-FACE WITH MORE THAN ONCE IN THE PAST THREE WEEKS ROUGHLY, IS THE, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY.
MR. DR AND MRS. NULA WILL NOT BE RUNNING THE PROPERTY THAT WE WOULD PUT 24 7 SECURITY ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY WILL HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE PROPERTY FROM THE ZOE GROUP 24 7, UH, COMPENSATION PACKAGE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
AND THOSE ARE THE, THE GENERAL PARAMETERS THAT'S HELPFUL.
AND IN ALL HONESTY, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO WRITE IT ALL DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT I GET STUCK IN ON COURT, BUT THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND MS. MCGOVERN CAN VERIFY THAT IF YOU WANT.
SO IT HASN'T BEEN, IT'S NOT FORMALIZED YET.
IS IT, THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE.
UH, NORMALLY WHEN THERE'S THIS MANY PEOPLE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT IF THEY'RE GONNA SAY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU OPEN THINGS UP FOR THE PUBLIC, WHETHER YOU, WHETHER I INVITE HER UP HERE OR NOT, SHE'S A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF EDMOND AND I THINK SHE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU.
IT'S WHETHER SHE'S GONNA TALK AS THE OWNER, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT SHE'S JUST GONNA TALK AS A CITIZEN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
WELL, SHE'S NOT GONNA TALK AS THE OWNER, BUT AS A MANAGER FOR THE OWNER BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE OVER BASICALLY MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION IS WHAT HERE MAY SHE, MAY SHE SPEAK WITH YOU? I'LL GET OUTTA THE WAY.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, MA'AM.
UH, MY NAME IS JOE MCGUFFIN AND I I'M SORRY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN? I AM JOE MCGUFFIN.
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I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ZOE HEALING CENTER.MY BACKGROUND IS I'M A VETERAN ARMY NURSE.
I'M ALSO MY BACKGROUND'S HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION.
BEFORE I DID THIS FULL-TIME, I WAS ACTUALLY THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS AT UCO.
UM, I'M VERY MUCH PASSIONATE ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF INDIVIDUALS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS PROPOSE A SOLUTION.
I AGREE WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT WE, NOBODY WANTS AN UNSAFE, UM, DANGEROUS PLACE.
AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO, UM, MAKE IT A CHRISTIAN CENTER.
MAY I PASS THIS OUT JUST VERY QUICKLY FOR YOU GUYS? IT JUST HAS OUR VISION AND PURPOSE.
BUT BASICALLY WE WOULD PROVIDE AFFORDABLE INTER-GENERATIONAL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE SEEKING STABILITY CAN LIVE IN A SAFE, NURTURING AND HEALING ENVIRONMENT.
THIS ISN'T A GROUP HOME, IT'S NOT A HOMELESS SHELTER, IT'S NOT A TRANSITIONAL, WE WANT PERMANENCY, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE PURPOSE WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SEEKING STABILITY AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE WITHIN THE CONCEPT OF COMMUNITY.
WE WANNA MAKE IT COMMUNITY NOT ONLY A, A SAFE, UM, A BEAUTIFUL PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S SO VULNERABLE TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING HOMELESS, FROM PREVENT THEM FROM, UM, BEING IN A DARK SITUATION LIKE HOME, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
OUR PURPOSE IS TO, UM, LOOK AT THE VULNERABLE SUCH AS VETERANS, YOUNG ADULTS THAT ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE, UM, ADULTS SEEKING MEANING AND PURPOSE IN LIFE.
WE WOULD HAVE ONSITE, UM, LIFE SKILL CLASSES, ALL KINDS OF PURPOSES AND SER UM, PROGRAMS, SERVICES RIGHT THERE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE, UM, I HAVE KAYLENE ZER.
SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF BEAUTIFUL RESTORATION INCORPORATED RIGHT HERE IN EDMOND.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE OLD GOVERNOR'S MANSION ON DANFORTH, WHEN IT WAS GONNA BE TORN DOWN, THEY'VE RESTORED IT.
AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN, OR THEIR LIVES HAVE BEEN CHANGED BECAUSE OF THAT PROPERTY.
IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THIS, UM, MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL.
UM, BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONCIERGE WHEN WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS ALREADY LINED UP TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONCIERGE SERVICE WHERE PEOPLE ARE THERE TO MENTOR, UM, TO PRAY, TO JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE, UM, ALL DURING THE DAY, BUT MAKE IT A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO BE HERE.
NOT, UM, SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ASHAMED OF, BUT SOMETHING I'VE HEARD IT ALL AND IT'S, IT'S SHOCKING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN IT AROUND.
WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO BE BEHIND ORDINARY CITIZENS LIKE MYSELF, UM, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE CITY, TO IMPACT PEOPLE, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO REPLICATE, BUT TO HAVE SOMETHING VERY SERVICEABLE HERE.
I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHO I AM.
I DO HAVE A CO-DIRECTOR, AMBER GUTHRIE.
SHE'S ACTUALLY PREACHING TONIGHT IN WHAT WE CALL LIVE TRANSFORM.
WE GET PEOPLE OFF THEIR DRUGS, WE GET PEOPLE, UM, BACK TO STABLE LIVING, AND WE JUST PUT THE SUPPORT INDIVIDUALLY, UM, SUPPORT THEM WHERE THEY ARE.
WE'RE NOT DRAGGING 'EM SOMEPLACE ELSE, AND THEY HAVE TO REENTER.
WE PUT THE SUPPORT SYSTEMS RIGHT AWAY.
IF KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL, LET 'EM STAY IN SCHOOL.
BUT LET'S PUT THE SUPPORT SYSTEMS AROUND TWO VULNERABLE PLACES.
RIGHT NOW IS THE FOSTER CHILDREN YOUTH TRANSITION IN OKLAHOMA, ACCORDING TO OKLAHOMA WATCH, CHRONICLES OF SOCIAL CHANGE SPONSORED BY THE CHICK CHICKASAW NATION.
STRUGGLING ALONE, LACKING SUPPORT WITHOUT SECURING A STABLE SITUATION, YOU'RE HIGH RISK TO BE INCARCERATED, HAVE ADDICTIONS OR BE HOMELESS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKED.
OKLAHOMA'S ONE OF THREE STATES THAT DOES NOT HAVE EXTENDED FOSTER CARE TO AGE 21.
IT'S LOUISIANA AND RHODE ISLAND.
WE WOULD HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE COMMUNITY FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS, YOUNG ADULTS.
I MEAN, IF WE ALL HAD THE FOUNDATION WITH OUR, WITH OUR KIDS, WE DIDN'T JUST SEND THEM OFF AT 18 AND GO, OKAY, SEE YOU LATER.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG ADULTS RIGHT HERE IN OKLAHOMA TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOUNDATION.
WE COULD BE MOMS AND DADS FOR THEM.
MAYBE THEY JUST NEED A, UM, A LAPTOP.
MAYBE WE CAN HELP THEM IN SOME WAY JUST TO START OVER AND TO BE ABLE TO GET EMPLOYMENT, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR GOALS AND HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CARES ABOUT 'EM.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, THE VETERANS.
THE VETERANS NATIONAL COALITION FOR HOMELESS VETERANS.
AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT SAYS ONLY 7% OF THE GENERAL POPULATION
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CAN ACTUALLY CLAIM THAT THEY'RE VETERANS.HOWEVER, 13% OF THE HOMELESS ADULT POPULATION ARE VETERANS.
THEY'RE ALSO SAYING THAT THE NUMBER OF YOUNG HOMELESS COMBAT VETERANS IS INCREASING DUE TO THEIR DISABILITIES AND EXTREME NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
MANY MILITARY OCCUPATIONS AND TRAINING ARE NOT ALWAYS TRANSFERABLE TO THIS, UM, CIVILIAN WORLD.
SO THEY NEED ASSISTANCE MANY TIMES FOR THE DISABILITY.
ALSO, THE TIME LAPSE OF HELPING THEM GET INTO EMPLOYMENT ON ALL OF THESE.
AND EVEN ON THE VA QUOTE, IT SAYS, A TOP PRIORITY FOR HOMELESS VETERANS IS SECURE, SAFE, CLEAN HOUSING THAT OFFERS SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT FREE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE ALL WANT? THAT'S A COMMON DENOMINATOR.
SO THIS IS, UM, IF WE HAVE DISPLACED AND AT RISK VULNERABLE PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE VETERANS, AGING OUT, FOSTER YOUTH, SENIORS WITH DISABILITIES, OR JUST SENIOR YEARS THAT ARE ON, UM, FIXED INCOMES OR EVEN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
BUT ANYONE WANTING STABILITY, THEY'RE LIVING WITH LINGERING EFFECTS OF TRAUMA, STRESS, DISABILITIES, AND AGAIN, LACK OF FAMILY AND SOCIAL SUPPORT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY A COMMUNITY.
NOT JUST APARTMENTS, NOT JUST A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE.
BUT THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA DO IS WE HAVE TO RESTRUCTURE EVERYTHING, NOT ONLY JUST THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS SAFETY, PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENTS COMING IN TO SAY, WHAT IS THE SAFETY? UM, LET'S MAKE, IF IT'S 24 7 SECURITY, WE NEED THAT.
UM, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE STRUCTURED, THERE WILL BE NO ALCOHOL OR DRUGS IN THIS FACILITY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE A CHRISTIAN, OBVIOUSLY, OR TO TAKE ANY OF THESE COURSES.
UNDERSTAND, MA'AM, I'M NOT JUST NEED ME TO, LEMME CUT YOU OFF FOR HERE FOR A SECOND.
WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
BUT OTHER, OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
THE, WE, THAT'S THE ONLY RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE EQUATION SIGN.
ONCE WE GET A BUILDING THAT'S POTENTIALLY HABITABLE, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
AND SO I'M NOT DISCOUNTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT ALL OF THE BENEFITS YOU CAN GIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T GET THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE
WE DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A, IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET.
WE HAVE A HABITABLE BUILDING THAT IS SAFE FOR THE OCCUPANTS, SAFE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT SAFE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT HERE TO, TO, TO JUDGE THE MERITS OF WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE.
WHAT WE ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR IS THE MERITS OF, THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE FACILITY BEFORE YOU EVEN MOVE IN.
THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE FACILITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
SO, AND YES, SIR, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO IS BE PART OF LET'S GET THIS FIXED.
UM, BRINGING IT IN THE, LET'S WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO, TO CREATE THAT.
IS IT, UM, IS IT MISS JOE? JOE? YES.
FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR FROM YOUR PASSION AND TONE.
LIKE YOUR HEART IS AS BIG AS THE OKLAHOMA SKY.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN FEEL IT.
AND I BELIEVE AS A CITY WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE CONVERSATION OF HOW AND WHERE WE CAN PARTNER ON ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
HOW WE CAN BEST SERVE OUR VETERANS.
WHAT BEST PRACTICES THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED? UM, BEING IN BUSINESS FOR MYSELF AND DOING DIFFERENT PROJECTS, PART OF WHAT I ALWAYS CONSIDER IS WHO I'M GOING TO MAKE A CONTRACT WITH OR WHAT IS THE FOUNDATION THAT I'M GONNA BASE THAT PARTNERSHIP ON? MM-HMM.
BECAUSE WE CANNOT FAIL IN YOUR MISSION IN THIS CITY.
AND SO, I MEAN, I WOULD ASK YOU IF, IF PRIOR TO SAY THIS EVENING'S CITY COUNCIL, WERE YOU AWARE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD, UM, A HUNDRED UNPAID, UM, UH, UNPAID, UH, UH, FINES, UH, BEFORE THE MUNICIPAL COURT? NO.
I DID KNOW THE PRESENT OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE THINGS HAVE BEEN.
UM, TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS WITH THE POLICE COMING AND JUST, UM, I'VE KNOWN ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, BUT NOT EVERYTHING THAT NOT THE 30,000, NOT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE HUNDREDS.
NOW, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S COUNSEL HAS SAID THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME VERBAL CONVERSATION AND THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL CONTRACT.
I WOULD JUST ADVISE YOU TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE YES, SIR.
TO THE PERSON THAT YOU'LL BE MAKING A CONTRACT OR A COVENANT WITH IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED IN YOUR MISSION.
YES, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, AS YOU SAID, AN AREA THAT IS FREE OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, PROSTITUTION, HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
WE WANT TO SECURE SAFE, CLEAN HOUSING, UH, FREE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL FOR OUR VETERANS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
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THERE ARE CURRENTLY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I KNOW THE VFW WILL SPEAK TO THIS IN A MINUTE.UH, VETERANS THAT ARE ON VOUCHERS LIVING THERE NOW, DO THEY LIVE IN A SECURE, SAFE, CLEAN HOUSING FREE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL LOCATION AS AS YOU'VE OBSERVED IT? NO, THEY DON'T.
AND THAT'S THE TRANSITION THAT WE HAVE A PLAN TO DO THAT BECAUSE YES, WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT.
THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, TO STAY IN THAT.
ONCE WE HAVE, UM, THERE'S A PLAN FOR, UM, WE'RE NOT BRINGING, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE'RE NOT BRINGING, NOT A QUESTIONING, BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE.
SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, POINT, THAT'S FUTURE FOCUSED, BUT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE VETERANS THAT ARE ON VOUCHERS THERE NOW.
RIGHT NOW THAT WE BELIEVE THERE ARE IN AN AREA, ACCORDING TO POLICE REPORTS, WHERE THERE IS, UH, SEXUAL ASSAULT, POTENTIAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WHERE THERE IS PROSTITUTION, WHERE THERE ARE, UH, NOT A STAFF ON SITE WHERE THERE IS THINGS THAT AREN'T SECURE AND DOORS OPEN WHERE IT'S NOT SAFE, WHERE IT'S POTENTIALLY SOILED ITEMS HAVE BEEN PRESENT WHERE IT'S NOT FREE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
SO THAT'S TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IS WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.
NOW, I WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
IT'LL BE UP TO YOU AND YOUR BOARD AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED TO IDENTIFY IF YOU WANT TO CONTRACT WITH WHOEVER YOU WANT TO GET IN CONTRACT FOR DISCUSSION LATER.
BUT WE'LL FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE NOW AND THE VETERANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, HAVING THEIR VOUCHERS UTILIZED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
JUST SO I'M GONNA ADDRESS WHAT YOU WANNA ADDRESS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE PUNCH LIST THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, THE MOST RECENT THING WE HAVE IS THE JANUARY 29TH, 2024 LIST OF ITEMS FROM MIKE FITZGERALD.
AND THAT IS THE MOST RECENT LIST OF OUTSTANDING FIRE AND CODE BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS.
THERE'S THE INTERMITTENT OR ROUTINE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, AND THEN THERE'S THE ELEVATOR SITUATION, WHICH BEST WE KNOW THERE'S NO CURRENT PERMIT TO OPERATE AN ELEVATOR.
SO THAT 1 29 MEMO IS IN THE MATERIALS.
THEN THERE'S THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ELEVATOR PERMIT, AND THEN THERE'S THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
ANYBODY OUT THERE? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND ADDRESSING TODAY.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CURRENT VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY AS OF RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THE THING IS, DO WE HAVE MR. FITZGERALD, YOU'RE COMING DOWN.
IVAN? UM, THE THING IS, IS THAT, THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, TRYING TO HAVE A SYSTEMATIC WAY OF HOW WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS, THAT FROM CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ELEVATOR IN THE 1 29, 24 20 24 LETTER OF, OF ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THAT.
AND WHY DID YOU STAND UP, MA'AM? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL I'M PAULA PARKHURST PARKHURST PUMPKIN PATCH.
WHO ARE YOU, WHO ARE YOU WITH? I'M, I'M WITH DR.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT READY TO HEAR YOU RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT THEY HAVE VOUCHERS TO HEAR YOU RIGHT NOW FROM THIS WE'RE, IT ADDRESSES WHAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS.
I'M NOT WOR I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE VOUCHERS FOR VETERANS AND I'M TRYING TO GET A BUILDING THAT'S INHABITABLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TONIGHT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO, THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, IS TO GET A BUILDING.
WE, EVERYONE KEEPS ON GOING TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE EQUATION SIDE SAYING THAT EVERYTHING'S PG KEEN AND GROOVY AND THAT WE WE'RE READY TO INHABIT, WE'RE NOT.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER, ROBS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME PEOPLE OUT OF THE AUDIENCE.
UM, DID I, WELL, DID, OH, I'M SORRY.
IF, IF I MAY, UH, WANT TO ADDRESS MADELINE'S CONCERN AND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUNCH LIST.
ADDITIONAL OBSERVATIONS THAT WERE MADE TODAY AT THE PROPERTY BY MYSELF AND ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER WHEN WE WERE DOING THE REINSPECTION ON THE INOPERABLE VEHICLE WITH THE FLAT TIRE.
AND THE TRASH WERE 15 MISSING WINDOW SCREENS, THREE BROKEN WINDOWS, UH, EXTERIOR FIRE ESCAPE DOOR THAT WAS PROPPED OPEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
MISCELLANEOUS TRASH, GRAFFITI, AND EGRESS ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT WAS BLOCKED BY A BED FRAME.
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THAT WAS JUST ON OUR OBSERVATIONS ON THE OUT, WALKING AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.WE WALKED ALL OF THE COMMON AREAS ON EVERY FLOOR.
THE MAJORITY OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT WE FOUND WERE ON THE SECOND AND THE THIRD FLOOR, THE TWO THAT WERE UNOCCUPIED.
BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
THERE WAS NON-FUNCTIONING, LIGHTING THE ELEVATOR IN QUESTION DOES NOT HAVE THE INSPECTION POSTED.
THE INSPECTION CERTIFICATES MUST, MUST BE POSTED IN THE ELEVATOR.
THE MIDDLE STAIRWELL DOOR WOULD NOT CLOSE.
THERE'S NO LIGHTING IN THE MEN'S RESTROOM.
ONE OF THE DOOR HANDLES ON THE FLOOR, UH, ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
THE OCCUPIED FLOOR IS MISSING.
AND IT'S, THERE'S NO HANDLE THERE AT ALL.
POOR LIGHTING THROUGHOUT ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
11 DOORS MISSING HARDWARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UH, FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR STAIRWELLS, POOR LIGHTING, POOR LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE THIRD FLOOR.
EMERGENCY EXIT SIGNS NOT LIT ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
WATER DAMAGE, EVIDENCE OF WATER DAMAGE ON CEILING TILES ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND 13 DOORS ON THE THIRD FLOOR, MISSING HARDWARE.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT THERE ARE NOT VIOLATIONS, AND UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THESE VIOLATIONS ARE THE SAME VIOLATIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU BEFORE.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PERENNIAL PROBLEM THAT IS NOT CHANGING.
AND SO WHAT WE ESTABLISHED, THANK YOU.
SO WHAT WE ESTABLISHED LAST TIME IS THAT THERE WERE GONNA BE A SERIES OF INSPECTIONS, IVAN AND HIS TEAM, AND EVERYONE WAS GONNA GO OUT THERE IF, AND SO EVERYONE HAD THE SAME LIST.
AND I AM STILL PUSHING FOR EVERYONE TO BE ON THE SAME LIST THAT 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GROWING MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT, SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN GET TO THAT EQUAL SIGN AND SEE WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE IT.
WE DON'T HAVE THINGS IN PLACE OR THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T HAVE THE THINGS IN PLACE THAT IS NECESSARY FOR ALL THE GOODNESS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE STILL HAVE TO GET PAST CODE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE WHAT WE'VE JUST HEARD.
OR SOME MAY BE NEW AND SOME ARE FROM PREVIOUS.
AND WE NEED, WE NEED TO CONNECT THE DOTS AND GO FORWARD.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE SO WE CAN KEEP THIS MOVING, IS FOR PEOPLE, AS I SAID, WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY IN HERE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO TO DISRESPECT YOU OR ANYTHING, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS PERSON OVER HERE IS PROBABLY GONNA SAY HALF OR THE SAME THING.
THIS PERSON OVER HERE IS GONNA SAY, OR VICE VERSA AND ALL THAT.
A FEW OF Y'ALL COME UP HERE, IF THAT'S FINE WITH YOU.
AND I THINK, UM, MR. MAYOR, IF WE COULD START, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS WHO'VE, UH, WHO COME I AND I KNOW, UH, 'CAUSE OF THEIR CONSTITUENCY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM THEM.
WE, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE, THAT WE HEAR FROM THEM TOO.
BUT, UM, MAY I JUST FINISH BRIEFLY? COME ON, MA'AM.
LET'S, LET'S GET, I, I'M, I'M PAULA PARKHURST.
I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN IN THE BUILDING.
SO I YOU'VE BEEN PERSONALLY BEEN IN THE BUILDING.
I WAS, I WAS AT THE PREVIOUS, UH, MEETING SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO SPEAK, TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDING AND THE NEED THAT, THAT THERE IS TO FIX ALL OF THAT.
I AM AWARE OF A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED FOR A $75,000 A YEAR CONTRACT PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS FROM DAY ONE.
TAKE IT FROM WHERE YOU WANT, WHERE IT IS NOW TO THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.
SOMEBODY WHO HAS THAT ABILITY AND HAS THAT EXPERTISE AND WILL FUNCTION IN THAT ROLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GONNA GO AWAY.
THERE IS A CONTRACT ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, NOT FULLY DEVELOPED, BUT THERE IS A PERSON THAT WE HAVE CONTACTED TO DO THAT VERY THING.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE NEED THIS PLACE AND WE NEED IT TO BE SAFE.
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THANK YOU.ANY OTHER, UM, CITIZENS RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE HAVE VA COME UP? ANY CITIZENS? YES.
UM, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK COUNCILMAN ROBBINS FOR DOING HIS JOB IN REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS REGARDING THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE.
UM, I HAVE BEEN COMING AND SPEAKING OUT, AND GENERALLY I'M SPEAKING NOT IN FAVOR OF WHAT THE COUNCIL IS DOING.
THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT IN THIS CASE I'M SPEAKING FOR THE COUNCIL BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
THEY ARE ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
NOW, UM, I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS HERE AT THE COUNCIL.
AND DURING THOSE THREE YEARS, I HAVE, I HAVE WITNESSED NUMEROUS INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE OWNERS OF THIS LOCATION AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THEY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT ONE POINT AGREED TO HELP RELOCATE ALL OF THE PEOPLE AND WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO HELP RELOCATE NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT WERE RESIDING, RESIDING AT THIS LOCATION.
I HAVE HEARD WITNESSES OF, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE COME AND SPOKEN ABOUT THE DETRIMENT OF THE CONTINUED OPERATION OF THIS LOCATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
I HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYDAY INTERACTION WHO HAVE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THIS, WHO HAVE SPOKE ABOUT CONCERN FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY AND THEIR CHILDREN'S SAFETY.
NOW, I CAN'T ATTEST TO ANYTHING.
I CAN'T ATTEST TO THE VERACITY OF ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I CAN'T ATTEST TO THE VERACITY OF ANYTHING, ANY INTERACTION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY.
BUT WHAT I CAN BRING TO THE TABLE IS A WITNESS TO THE ONGOING SITUATION.
THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN, THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING CHANCE AFTER CHANCE AFTER CHANCE.
AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO PUT THE FOOT DOWN AND BRING THIS TO A CLOSE.
AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY IS A WONDERFUL THING.
IT IS REALLY, IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THEY COULD APPLY TO DO SOMETHING IN ONE OF THESE TIF DISTRICTS AND DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HELP GET HELP OF DOING SOMETHING GOOD.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK AS A CITIZEN THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM CHANCE AFTER CHANCE WHEN THEY HAVEN'T PROVEN THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO WHAT THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
LESLIE MAHAN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR, UM, ME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY CONCERNS WITH THESE RECENT FINDINGS THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN ROBBINS HAS BROUGHT FORTH, UM, THIS EVENING.
UM, THAT WE HAVE, UM, CHILD PORN ACTIVITY SUPPOSEDLY IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A WIFE.
AND I'M A CHRISTIAN, A MOTHER, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN WITH THIS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN YOURS AND MY BACK BACKYARD.
AND I AM ALSO TO PIGGYBACK ON, UH, WHAT THE PREVIOUS PERSON SAID.
CHANCES HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND GIVEN AND GIVEN, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
WE ARE TIRED OF NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT TAKING CARE OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND CRIME IS RISING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE ILLEGALS THAT ARE FLOODING IN THROUGH OUR BORDERS AND BEING SENT TO OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CHILDREN, OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
WE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, IN SAFETY IS, IS A HUGE CONCERN.
WHEN I MOVED TO THIS COMMUNITY 14 YEARS AGO, I MOVED HERE FOR THE PEOPLE, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
AND IT IS ALL CHANGED LITTLE BY LITTLE.
I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S PLANS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO BE DONE THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD, UM, WITH THIS NEW, UM, ORGANIZATION STEPPING IN.
BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A CONTRACT AND IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN,
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THERE COULD BE LEGAL ACTIONS MOVING FORWARD BETWEEN BOTH PARTIES AND THAT, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.I'M STARTING TO HEAR THE SAME THING.
UM, THE SAME THING FROM EACH PERSON.
MR. MAYOR, I'M GONNA SHOCK YOU.
SIR, CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? I'M KNOWN SCOTT SIR, AND I AM SHOCKING YOU BY, BY APPLAUDING THIS COUNSEL FOR STANDING UP.
YOU ARE OBLIGING BY OR FOLLOWING YOUR SWORN OATH TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF EDMOND.
AND SO YOU ARE DOING YOUR DUTY, MA'AM.
SIR, SIR, SIR, PLEASE ADDRESS THE COUNSEL.
BUT YOU PICKED THE WRONG HORSE, SIR.
WE'VE HEARD FROM WVMW, I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR CITY, THE COUNCIL, UH, DISTRICT NINE COMMANDER AT ERIC DUNCAN, LIVE IN THIS TOWN.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THE ISSUE IS A VERY SIMPLE ISSUE.
WE WERE MAKING AN A DA FRIENDLY TOWN.
THIS BUILDING DOESN'T MEET THE COMPLIANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THIS COMES UP AND ON FOR US PERSONALLY.
WE'VE ASKED, UH, COUNCILMAN ROBBINS, 'CAUSE WE'RE IN HIS DISTRICT TO HELP DEFEND US.
THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT MESSAGES THAT THERE ARE 90 BEDS AVAILABLE FOR VETERANS IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE ARE PAYING OUT MONEY FOR VETERANS TO GO LIVE IN A HOTEL WHEN THEY COME HERE EXPECTING A BED.
THIS CAN, I CAN JUST, JUST CLARIFYING THERE.
SO YOUR YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY MARKETING TO THE VETERAN COMMUNITY SO THAT THERE'S, IT IS ALL OVER ACROSS THEIR FACEBOOK.
YOU CAN GO ON EXPEDIA AND RENT A ROOM THERE.
AND IT'S CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR OUR VETERANS GROUPS, WHICH ARE HAVING TO FOOT THAT BILL.
BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS AN A DA ISSUE.
THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A DECADE OR FOR YEARS HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET FIXED AT THIS POINT.
THERE'S NO POINT CONTINUING IT DECLARED A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
THERE'S A BETTER DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN GO THERE.
AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, 'CAUSE I WAS NOT FULLY AWARE THOUGH.
I CAN PRESENT WHAT THEY SENT US SAYING THERE ARE 90 ROOMS AVAILABLE AS OF NOW.
SO THEY HAVE SENT YOU COMMUNICATION THAT INDICATE, AND THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE THAT THINKING THAT THERE WOULD BE A SAFE, SECURE, CLEAN 90 BED.
THEY PUT OUT ANY VETERAN PLEASE COME.
IF YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT PAY $850 A MONTH, THERE ARE 90 ROOMS AVAILABLE.
I'M HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.
FOR THE PAST YEAR, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE VA VASH PROGRAM.
UM, IF A VETERAN IS APPROVED FOR BENEFITS SUCH AS A VOUCHER, THEY THEN GO TO THE OKLAHOMA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY, WHICH IS THE STATE HUD REPRESENTATIVE TO OBTAIN A VOUCHER.
THEY THEN WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO OBTAIN A UNIT.
IT IS BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND OFFA TO GET THAT UNIT ONE UNIT APPROVED.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 22 VETERANS THAT ARE ON THE FIRST FLOOR ONLY, UH, OCCUPYING THE HOUSE.
THE SECOND, THIRD FLOOR THERE IS A WAITING LIST.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD OFFA AND THE VASH PROGRAM THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED TO BE HABITABLE, WHICH IS WHERE THE INSPECTION CAME INTO PLAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE IS THIS, IT'S THE SAME THING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRISTIE.
IS THAT WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT RIGHT NOW HAS SOME DEFICIENCIES IN IT TO ALLOW FOR THE HABITATION OF THAT.
THERE'S, WE HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS, WE HAVE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR WITH, UH, ELEVATOR AND WE HAVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW.
SO WE DON'T, I I DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM OTHER PE WE KNOW WHAT YOU THING IS.
WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO GO FORWARD.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO BECAUSE I DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP REHASHING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
EVERYBODY'S SAYING THE SAME THING.
WELL, I DO, I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM THE AUXILIARY.
I THINK THE AMERICAN, I DO WANNA HEAR FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT A CONSTITUENCY THAT'S BEEN, WE POTENTIALLY VICTIMIZED BY,
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BY FOLKS THAT ARE PRESENTING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THERE.I I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WITH THE AGENDA OF NOT WHAT, WHAT'S BEING ADVERTISED.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE, COUNCILMAN, IS AN, IS A BUILDING A, A PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS IN VIOLATION OF CODE.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL CODE VIOLATIONS THERE.
WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR, THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, AND WE HAVE SOME, UH, THERE'S BEEN, UH, NOTED SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE CHARGED TO FIX TODAY.
NOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT THEY ARE MISREPRESENTING SOMETHING AND ALL THAT, THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
WELL, I MEAN, MR. MAYOR, THERE'S 24 VETERANS LIVING IN THERE.
SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THIS HOUSING RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY REPRESENT A HUGE CONSTITUENCY OF THIS POPULATION THAT HAS BEEN MESSAGED TO.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM ON THE RECORD.
THERE'S A COURT REPORTER HERE AND THERE'S A LAWYER THAT'S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, HERE'S OUR, HERE'S OUR RECORD KEEPER OVER HERE, SIR.
I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE AUXILIARY MAKE A STATEMENT IF THEY WOULD WANT ON BEHALF OF THEIR VETERANS OR MAKE A A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO YOU ALL WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? YES SIR.
I'M THE COMMANDER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION POST ONE 11.
THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US.
FIRST OFF, TO CORRECT THE RECORD, I DON'T BELIEVE COUNCILMAN ROBBINS IS A PROSECUTOR.
I THINK YOU WERE DOING YOUR JOB AND BRINGING THINGS TO LIGHT THAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT.
I PERSONALLY WENT BY THE PROPERTY TODAY, SIR, AND FOUND IT IN A VERY SAD STATE OF DISREPAIR.
I'VE TALKED TO THE FOLKS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS.
THEY HAVE GONE IN AND FOUND THINGS LIKE FECAL MATTER USED NEEDLES AND EVERYTHING THAT OUR POOR CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CITY SERVANTS HAVE TO PUT UP WITH, WITH THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH MY VFW BROTHERS AND REQUEST THAT YOU DISMISS THESE DEPLORABLE INDIVIDUALS AS THE SLUMLORDS THAT THEY ARE AND SEND THEM TO ANOTHER TOWN.
SIR, SIR, WE JUST, LET'S KEEP OUR LANGUAGE STRAIGHT.
I MEAN, DON'T, DON'T, THANK YOU.
SO WE SET AT THE SAME POINT WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT COUNSEL.
WE STILL HAVE OUR THINK WE HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS, WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR, WE HAVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
NOW DO WE WANT TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO HELP TO, TO, THAT WILL COME TO A DECISION.
UH, IS IT, IS IT, I'M, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP A PLAN, MR. MAYOR, TO LOCK THE DOOR ON THE PLACE.
SO WHATEVER THAT TAKES, IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, YOU FIRST NEED TO DETERMINE IF IT'S
WELL, I WOULD TO MAKE A MOTION TO DECLARE A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
I WOULD LIKE OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY, MA'AM? YOU WOULD FIRST NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
AND, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT WRONG, IF WE ARE GONNA DETERMINE A PRE PUBLIC NUISANCE, WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE, THE SITE OF WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE CLAIMING THAT IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
YES, I HAVE THE ORDINANCE HERE.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DECLARE THE EXISTENCE OF A PUBLIC NUISANCE ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1300 EAST HEIRS DUE TO THE ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
I DUNNO IF WE NEED TO BE MORE PRESCRIPTIVE OR NOT.
UH, OUR COUNSEL WANTS US TO, I CAN GET IN AS MUCH DETAIL AS WE NEED, BUT I WANT, NO, I THINK, I THINK MADELINE HAS THE DESCRIPTION NUMBER.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 8 24 0 1 0 F THE KEEPING OF A PLACE WHERE ACTIVITIES IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW OR ORDINANCE ARE PRACTICED? I MEAN, THE, THE DEFINITION AS YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE MM-HMM.
SO WHATEVER THE LEGAL SORT OF EASE WORDS AS A CITIZEN, UM, COUNSEL THAT I NEED TO SAY, I WANNA BE ABLE TO SAY THOSE.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORDSMITH THE EXACT SENTENCE, BUT I WANNA DECLARE TO PUBLICATIONS.
SO YOUR MOTION AS YOU PREVIOUSLY STATED JUST A MINUTE AGO, AND THEN WHICHEVER PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE APPLY HERE, UM, WHICH IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WOULD BE 8.2 4.00 F, UM,
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R AND S AT, AT A MINIMUM.I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THERE'S A MOTION HERE THAT, UH, TO DECLARE THIS P PIECE OF PROPERTY A PUBLIC NUISANCE UNDER 8 24 0 1.
0 0 1, 0 8 24 0 0 F ZERO ZERO F, UM, RR ZERO ZERO R AND S 0 1 0, ISN'T IT? YES.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FOR, THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT REFERENCES HERE, UM, UNDER THE 8 24 8 24 CODE.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? NONE FROM COUNSEL.
THEN THAT ITEM, THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN DECLARED A NUISANCE.
SO NOW, SO NOW YOU NEED TO GIVE, INSTRUCT THE PROPERTY OWNER ON HOW THE PUBLIC INNOCENCE IS TO BE ABATED AND HOW LONG THEY HAVE TO DO.
SO COUNSEL, YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ON HOW, HOW LONG YOU THINK THAT PROCESS SHOULD TAKE.
AND THEN I'LL ALSO ASK THE PROPERTY OWNER TO HAVE THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS.
WELL, NOW WE HAVE FOLKS IN THERE TOO THAT WE NEED TO FIND HOPE PLACES FOR 'EM AGAIN OR SOMETHING.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A GOOD COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA HELP.
I HOPE
IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME FOLKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THAT POTENTIALITY, BUT GOOD.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, THEY HAVE A VOUCHER FOR THAT PROPERTY.
IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS TO GET A NEW VOUCHER TO A NEW PROPERTY.
THERE IS A CURRENT LACK OF UNITS RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION SO THAT WE CAN MOVE, UM, THOSE FOLKS AND WORK WITH THE VASH PROGRAM IN OFFA ON THAT.
HOW LONG? SO THE, THE THING IS, WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS YES, WE WANT, WE WANT THIS AB OBEY AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S A PROCESS.
SO THAT WE, WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
YES, WE WANNA PROTECT OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T SAVE.
AND TOMORROW YOU'RE OUT THE DOOR.
SO MS. SAWYER, UM, WE VOTED TO DECLARE IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE UNDER THE CODE.
AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE, THE ACTIONS FOR ABATEMENT TO SATISFY ABATEMENT.
AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO THAT, UM, WHEN DO, DO THE RESIDENTS, DO THEY, CAN THEY REMAIN DURING THE PERIOD OF ABATEMENT? AND THEN IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEN THEY HAVE TO RELOCATE OR TELL ME HOW THAT WORKS LEGALLY, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, WAS WE, WE DIDN'T JUST SAY WE'RE SHUTTING THE DOORS TOMORROW.
UM, BUT THAT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION.
I, I THINK TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, YOU COULD SAY HAVE SECURITY IMMEDIATELY, AND THEN IF BY THE TIME THEY COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE THAT'S NOT ABATED, THEN YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOK AT HAVING THOSE PEOPLE VACATE.
LIKE CONCURRENTLY PLANNING FOR BOTH.
I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A NICE LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE A SAFE PLACE FOR FOLKS TO LIVE AND FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO COME TO AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE GO TO THE TIMEFRAME FIRST OR IF IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS AND HERE'S THE TIMEFRAME, OR IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE ON CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN MAKE THAT TIMEFRAME SHORTER.
AND THEN DO WE SET IT WITH THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR, I MEAN, I WOULD LOOK TO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT PLAYING THOUGH, SO CORRECT.
WE, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT OURSELVES ON THE CLOCK.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THIS, IS THAT IT, THE, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE VOUCHERS FOR NINE AND IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER 90 DAYS FOR ANOTHER VOUCHER TO BE REISSUED.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE LIVING THERE RIGHT NOW,
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DOES IT GO FROM DATE THAT IT WAS ISSUED OR FROM TODAY? IT WOULD GO FROM THE TIME THEY NOTIFY OFFA THAT THEY NEED TO FIND A NEW RESIDENCE.SO THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT WAS MADE BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND THE VETERAN.
SO WE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER UNIT AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SOFA WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY SWITCH THE VOUCHER OVER.
BUT DO WE HAVE SOME VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS WHO MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO SOME FUNDS TO I HAVE.
UM, AND POTENTIALLY LOOK, LOOKING AT FUNDS TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE I'M NOT INCLINED TO GIVE 90 DAYS ON ANY OF THIS.
AND I'M ALSO INCLINED TO USE COUNCIL'S DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE IF WE NEED TO.
IT'S AN EMERGENCY APPROPRIATION TO HELP VETERANS IF, IF NEEDED.
I MEAN, THERE'S, I THINK WE GET CREATIVE, BUT I'VE GOT WORD FROM THE GENTLEMAN BACK THERE THAT HE HAS FUNDS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST WITH THAT.
SO, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.
THE THING IS, IS THAT, UM, ARE WE GOING TO, DO YOU NOT WANT TO DIS DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS SETTING THE PLAN UP OR PART OF, UH, DISCUSSION? WHAT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COME AND, AND, AND MEET? I'M NOT SAYING THEY, THEY, THEY, I'M JUST SAYING WHAT IF UNDER THIS SCENARIO HERE MM-HMM.
WHAT ABOUT 30? 30? NO, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING WHATEVER THE TIME PERIOD IS, BUT YEAH, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS IS WE HAVE TO SET THAT MODEL FOR I UNDERSTAND.
AND RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET OUT THERE IS I, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT A LIST OF THINGS THAT I WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE FOR ABATEMENT AND I THINK THAT THESE FOLKS POTENTIALLY LIVE THERE DURING THAT 30 DAY PERIOD.
AND THEN WE COME BACK AND WE SEE IF THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.
IF NOT, WE PURSUE THE NEXT LEGAL STEP, WHICH IS GOING TO DISTRICT COURT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THROWING OUT FOR DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THE INSPECTION PUNCH SHEET THAT YOU HAVE WAS NOT A COMPLETE INSPECTION ON THAT DAY.
WE WERE ASKED TO GO THERE TO CHECK A FEW ROOMS. WE DID, WE TERMINATED THE INSPECTION BECAUSE THE, THE COUPLE ROOMS THAT WE WENT IN WERE NOWHERE NEAR READY.
SECOND FLOOR HAS NOT BEEN LOOKED AT.
THIRD FLOOR HAS NOT BEEN LOOKED AT.
AND THOSE ARE DEFICIENCIES WITH THE FIRST FLOOR IN THE COMMON AREAS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A, A COMPLETE INSPECTION OF, OF THE FACILITY.
SO MR. MAYOR, WOULD IT BE A, I WOULD SAY THEN PART OF THE ABATEMENT PROCESS, AND I THINK OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD, UH, FACILITATE THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN, TWO HOURS TO, UM, GO THROUGH A FULL INSPECTION, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY'RE UP FOR ANNUAL YEAR ANYWAY, THEN TO, TO, UH, TO ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE ITEMS WITHIN A 30 DAY PERIOD FROM THAT INSPECTION FORWARD.
IS THAT, THAT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD GIVE US THE ACTUAL PUNCH LIST THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THAT'S ONE WAY OF SAYING IT'S 72 HOURS OR THEY DO THE INSPECTION AND HAVE A COMPLETE REPORT TO US BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
I I DON'T WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY CAN DO THE INSPECTION PROBABLY TOMORROW BE MY GUESS.
I WOULD I HOW SOON THEY CAN GET IT.
HOW SOON CAN WE GET TO THE INSPECTION OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING? YES.
HOW SOON DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET TO THE INSPECTION OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING? I'M SORRY.
HOW SOON DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET A COMPLETE INSPECTION OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING? I THINK, UH, WE WOULD BE OURSELVES FIRE CODE SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PD AND WE COULD PROBABLY GET ONE SCHEDULED IN THE NEXT, PROBABLY THIS WEEK IF EVERYBODY'S AVAILABLE.
OH WAIT, I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.
RIGHT? AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BRING IT TO, BUT I'M SAYING THE NEXT TIME WE'RE GETTING TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL IS IN TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY GONNA PUT IN THAT EQUATION THAT HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED THAT WE, THAT WE MIGHT WANT ACCOMPLISH BY THEN.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S LET'S CONTINUE MAKING OUR OKAY.
OUR RECIPE HERE AND GET A FULL LIST.
GET A FULL LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO BE DONE IN THIS TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
OKAY, MR. TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'RE COVERING ALL OUR BASES, THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FULL, I I DON'T WANT TO DO ONE THING AND IT'S, IT'S ONLY, UH, A PARTIAL CURE.
WE WANT A FULL ABATEMENT OF THE ANY NUISANCES.
MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A FEW SUGGESTIONS IF I MAY.
I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST OR MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST COME INTO COMPLIANCE
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WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE EDMOND MUNICIPAL CODE, INCLUDING TITLES 8, 10, 16, 17, AND 20.NUMBER TWO, THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST HIRE A DESIGNATED CLEAT CERTIFIED SECURITY GUARD TO BE ON THE PREMISES 24 7.
NUMBER THREE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS TO BE ON AND OPERATING 24 7.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THOSE ITEM ONE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE AD MUNICIPAL CODE, INCLUDING TITLES 8, 10, 16, 17, AND 20.
THAT WOULD BE AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND PROPERTY OWNERS MUST HIRE A DESIGNATED CLEAT CERTIFIED SECURITY GUARD TO BE ON THE PREMISES 24 7.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT BY 5:00 PM TOMORROW AND PROPERTY OWNERS MUST INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS TO BE O ON AND OPERATING 24 7 AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
I WOULD ALSO WOULD REQUEST, UH, COUNSELOR IF THE CONTRACT, UH, BE SENT TO OUR COUNSEL, UH, JUST SO THAT IT'S NOT A SECURITY AGREEMENT ON CASH BETWEEN FRIENDS AND A HANDSHAKE WITH SOME IN KIND DEAL THAT IT'S AN ACTUAL CONTRACT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND A FIRM AS THAT WE CAN CHECK THE CLEA CERTIFICATION PROFESSIONAL AND AND WHATNOT.
I WOULD ADD THAT TO MY MOTION.
MR. MAYOR, YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS IN MISS HERE IS ADDING THE PROPERTY OWNER RESPOND, RESPOND BEFORE WE CONSUMMATE THAT DEAL THERE BY MR. NO, I, WHAT I THINK I JUST HEARD WAS A CLEAT CERTIFIED, CERTIFIED SECURITY PERSON OR FIRM BY FIVE O'CLOCK TOMORROW.
IT CAN HAPPEN WITHIN A FEW DAYS, BUT BY FIVE O'CLOCK TOMORROW, GETTING A COMMITMENT FROM ANYBODY IS UNLIKELY AND IT'S NOT REASONABLE.
QUESTION, DID YOU SAY YOU HAD $2.3 MILLION IN SUPPORT IN FINANCING FOR THIS NEW PROJECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU TOLD US EARLIER? NO, I SAID $2.4 MILLION WENT INTO REFINANCING AND THEN I SAID A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY WENT INTO OTHER ASPECTS.
I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE A GENERAL SUGGESTION THAT YOU SPEND SOME OF THAT WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT PUT THAT UP BY GETTING SOMEONE BY FIVE O TOMORROW.
IT HASS NOTHING TO DO WITH SPENDING.
IT HAS TO DO WITH GETTING THE PEOPLE ON BOARD AND READY.
SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT THEY WILL DO IT.
WE COULD CALL TOMORROW, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEBODY WILL MAKE A COMMITMENT BY FIVE O'CLOCK TOMORROW.
MR. SHANNON, MAY I I'LL AMEND THAT MOTION THEN.
I'D SUGGEST THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST HIRE AND DE A DESIGNATED MEMBER, NU CLEAT, CERTIFIED SECURITY GUARD TO BE ON THE PREMISES 24 7 BY 5:00 PM THIS FRIDAY.
I BELIEVE THAT'S REASONABLE, SIR.
MS. SWEARER, CAN WE ALSO, UH, HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WOULD HAVE THE CEASE THE PROPERTY OWNER FROM, FROM BRINGING ON NEW VETERANS? UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
ARE WE, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, UH, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SHARE WITH US THE VETERANS COMMUNITY, THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY BEING SOLICITED TO BE HERE NOW THAT WE'VE DECLARED A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER VETERAN STEP INTO A PUBLIC NUISANCE? YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT THEY WON'T, UM, ADD ANY ADDITIONAL OCCUPANTS.
SO NO NEW TENANTS ENTAIL THE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.
WHAT WAS THE OTHER PART THOUGH? I, THAT WAS THE CLEAT PART, BUT I BELIEVE YOU SAID AS FAR AS HAVING THE INSPECTION DONE THIS WEEK, I BELIEVE CHIEF SAID HE COULD DO THAT THIS WEEK, BUT THEN I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU SAY WHATEVER THE INSPECTION REVEALS, THAT HAS TO BE REV, UH, TOTALLY COMPLETED AND REMEDIED BY THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH MEANS IF THE INSPECTION'S DONE THIS WEEK, NO, WE DIDN'T SAY THAT.
WHAT, WHAT'S GOING, WE'RE DISCUSSING, I THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THIS POINT, WHAT'S FINE OKAY.
IS THAT THE, THE INSPECTION NEEDS TO BE DONE THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK THIS, LEMME PUT IT TO YOU LIKE THIS.
WHEN WE COME BACK IN FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IN TWO WEEKS, IS THAT WE WANT THE INSPECTION DONE.
WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE WALKING, UH, DOWN THE AISLE WITH OUR PEOPLE SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT'S DONE, DONE.
WE WANNA REPORT ON WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE BUILDING.
OKAY? IN TWO WEEKS, AND YOU WILL, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR, YOUR INSPECTION REPORT AND YOU WILL TELL US AND WILL BE CONFIRMED BY OUR FOLKS THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE OR IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.
DOES THAT MEAN BY THE TIME OF THE NEXT MEETING THAT THE INSPECTORS WILL COME OUT A SECOND TIME? WHICH IS FINE.
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SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU THAT THE INSPECTORS COME BACK A SECOND TIME TO SEE WHAT THE SITUATION IS AT THE TIME OF THE NEXT MEETING.IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO, MAYOR? WERE WE TALKING ABOUT THE INSPECTORS GOING OUT, GETTING THE INSPECTION COMPLETED, HAVING A LIST OF EVERYTHING, DOING IT WITH THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY? WE WILL HAVE THAT LIST AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING, WE WILL SAY, THESE ARE THE ISSUES AND YOU HAVE 30 DAYS.
I THINK FROM THERE, THE HOPE IS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THE NEXT YEAH, WE, WE, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I THOUGHT IT WAS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
IS THAT ACCURATE? I SAID THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF EDMOND MUNICIPAL CODE, INCLUDING TITLES 8, 10, 16, 17, AND 20 BY OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
WHICH IS WHY I ADDRESSED IT SUCH THAT IF THAT MEANS GET EVERYTHING DONE ON THE INSPECTION, THAT'S GONNA BE DONE THIS WEEK BY THE TIME OF THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THAT PROBABLY LEAVES ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE DAYS ROUGHLY.
I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS EXACTLY TO GET EVERYTHING DONE.
AND I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET EVERYTHING DONE.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S CERTAINLY REASONABLE TO GET STUFF DONE AND COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NEXT OR THE PRECEDING EIGHT DAYS.
SO WHENEVER INSPECTIONS DONE, THEN I THINK IF WE COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE GOT THIS MUCH DONE.
UH, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY IT'S REASONABLE TO GET EVERY SINGLE THING DONE THAT'S ON THE INSPECTION.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE POINT AT WHICH WE DECIDE ARE WE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, COME BACK TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH EVERYTHING DONE AND NO NEW VIOLATIONS.
OR WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU DID TWO THINGS OUTTA 85.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND DIRECT OUR COUNSEL TO PURSUE THIS IN DISTRICT COURT.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT A, I MEAN THAT'S THE WAY I'M SEEING IT.
WE, WE, WE STILL GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, OUR STAFF IS TELLING US THERE'S A, THERE'S A A LONG LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE.
WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED TALKING A FEW HOURS AGO ABOUT THIS, IT WASN'T THAT MUCH.
SO THERE'S A DISCONNECT RIGHT THERE.
SO I, SO WE, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.
WHAT WE'RE, THIS COUNCIL EITHER WANTS PROGRESS OUT OF YOU, WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THERE AND IF, IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL ACTIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
MR. MAYOR, CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? NO, NO, MA'AM.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, IF THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR MR. MO, I WOULD SECOND IT.
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DIDN'T NOT GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND BEFORE WE DID THAT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT IN A TRAP OF, OKAY, INSPECTION HAPPENS THIS WEEK AND THERE'S 30 THINGS, OR 40 THINGS, OR HOWEVER MANY THINGS AND NOT EVERYTHING CAN GET DONE IN THE NEXT FO EIGHT DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS BEFORE YOUR NEXT MEETING.
I DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT IN THAT TRAP.
I JUST WANT TO GET AS MUCH DONE AS POSSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THAT.
GET AS MUCH DONE AS OUR NEXT MEETING IS MARCH 11TH.
THAT'S ROUGHLY TWO WEEKS APPROXIMATELY.
WHAT ABOUT, ABOUT THAT? EXACTLY.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE WON'T HAVE THE INSPECTION REPORT TO US FOR A FEW DAYS.
I THINK SOMETIMES I'VE RUN OUTTA PATIENCE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND WE'RE GONNA ACT ON THAT MOMENTARILY AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS.
MR. MAYOR, BEFORE Y'ALL MOVE TO A SECOND, CAN I JUST CONFIRM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S MOTION? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MOTION WAS MADE, UM, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE BY THE NEXT MEETING ON MARCH 11TH, THAT A, UM, CLEAT CERTIFIED SECURITY OFFICER FIRM, UM, WOULD BE HIRED NO LATER THAN 5:00 PM FRIDAY, MARCH 1ST, 24 7, BE ON THE PREMISE 24 7, PREMISE 24 7, HIRED BY THIS FRIDAY AT 5:00 PM AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS TO BE ON AND OPERATING 24 7 BY OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 11TH, WITH THE CO WITH THE CONTRACT PROVIDED TO BETWEEN THE PARTIES TO OUR COUNSEL, CORRECT OCCUPANTS AND NO NEW OCCUPANTS.
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OCCUPANTS.IS THERE ANYTHING I'M LEAVING OUT? DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING WITH THE ELEVATORS? DAMN SKIPPY.
UH, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET A HOLD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR TOMORROW AND FIND OUT ABOUT THAT ELEVATOR.
IF IT'S, THERE'S NOT A CERTIFICATE FOR OPERATION CHIEF OF POLICE, GO OUT THERE AND PUT A BUNCH OF YELLOW TAPE AROUND IT AND PUT, DO NOT ENTER PLEASE.
I MEAN THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER KNOWS IT'S A, IT'S LAWFUL TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE INSPECTION.
IT'S NOT BRAND NEW TO SOMEBODY WHO'S ON PROPERTY FOR 12 YEARS.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH THAT COUNSELOR.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S JUST A STICKER ISSUE.
IT'S ACTUALLY PAST INSPECTION.
AM I LEAVING ANYTHING OUT THAT NEEDS TO BE COVERED TONIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
MR. CLERK, DO YOU HAVE ALL THAT? I HAVE A CLARITY I NEED, SIR.
THAT'S IN THE FORM OF A MOTION, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNSEL? NO.
WHERE ARE WE NEXT? EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE'RE GONNA EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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SO I NEED A MOTION FOR US TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WE NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, RIGHT MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO JOIN THE CITY OF EDMUND IN THE CLASS ACTION SETTLEMENT AND THE LITIGATION AGAINST 3M COMPANY, ET ALL INVOLVING PIER AND POLLY FLO AL SUB PFAS, CONTAMINANT AND RE IN REGARDS TO ACQUIS FILM FORMING FOAM PRODUCTS LIABILITY LITIGATION MDL NUMBER TO ONE EIGHT DASH MN DASH 2 8 7 3.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, DISTRICT OF SOUTH CAROLINA, AND OR LITIGATION RELATED TO THE PFAS CONTAMINATION AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SAME WE HAVE A MOTION.
NEXT WE NEED A MOTION FOR NO, NO ACTION.
NO ACTION, NO ACTION FOR THE, UM, ITEM 10 D.
THERE'S NO ACTION ON 10 D, BUT WE DID ACTION, SO THERE'S NO ACTION.
SO THOSE, THAT WAS THE ONLY ACTION.
[11. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the Council Chambers lobby.]
NEXT WE'RE ITEM 11, CITIZENS COMMENTS.THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY RELATED ITEMS. UH, MATTER IS NOW ON THE AGENDA SCHEDULE FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
CITIZENS MUST SIGN UP TO SPEAK EITHER ONLINE BY THREE, UH, PM THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OR IN PERSON BY SERGEANT MEETING.
ALL REMARKS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE MAYOR OR OR CHAIR OF THE MEETING, OR LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS, AND MUST BE, UM, OTHERWISE BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY RULES.
I WILL, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE.
I WANT TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE FOR EACH PERSON.
UH, FIRST UP TONIGHT WE HAVE A RESIDENT,
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LEONARD SCOTT, COUNCIL MEMBERS.I'M GONNA KEEP THIS SHORT TONIGHT AND OUTTA RESPECT FOR YOU ALL'S GREAT WORK TONIGHT.
DEFENDING AND, UH, FOLLOWING YOUR OATH FOR THE CITY.
MAYOR DAVIS, I'M HOLDING TONIGHT IN HERE IS THE CITY AGENDA, AND ONCE AGAIN, THE COUNCIL DID NOT PLACE ANY OF OUR CITIZEN CONCERNS OR GRIEVANCE GRIEVANCES ON THE CITY AGENDA FOR OPEN DISCUSSION.
IT'S CLEAR YOU'RE IGNORING THE CITIZENS YOU REPRESENT.
I ALSO HOLD A COPY OF THE EVAN HANDBOOK IN HERE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
IN THE HANDBOOK UNDER THE TITLE OF ETHICS, IT STATES CLEARLY THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S DOING.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU, IT'S ABOUT CITIZEN COMMENTS AND HOW IT'S BEEN SET UP.
IN CHAPTER THREE, THE CITY NOTE HANDBOOK, IT STATES THE CITY COUNCIL'S CORE VALUES.
IT STATES THE COUNCIL SEEKS THE TRUTH AND ALLOW FOR FAIR AND THOROUGH, UH, DELIBERATION.
KEY WORDS ARE FAIR AND THOROUGH DELIBERATION.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.
YOU WENT FROM FIVE, WE WENT FIVE MINUTES AND YOU WENT TO THREE.
AND WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION TO THE CITIZENS OF WHY YOU CUT OUR TIME.
YOU DO NOT RESPOND TO OUR QUESTIONS, OUR CONCERNS, AND OUR GRIEVANCES.
DURING COMMENTS, YOU REMAIN SILENT.
THESE FACTS PROVE THE COUNCIL IS NOT FAIR AND THERE IS NO DELIBERATION.
CORE VALUES HANDBOOK STATES UNDER TITLE.
THE COUNSEL OPERATE UNDER THE FOUNDATION OF TRUST BY HONORING HONEST AND OPEN DISCUSSION.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED ENOUGH TO SPEAK.
THE HANDBOOK ALSO CLEARLY STATES UNDER THE LAWS OF GOOD, GOOD GOVERNANCE.
THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS DOING.
THE SYSTEMS OF MOND HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL RE, BUT THE COUNCIL REFUSES TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS TO OBTAIN TRUTH.
THE FACTS ARE THIS COUNCIL IS IGNORING OUR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS DOING.
I STATE THAT I ASK YOU TO PLEASE TAKE A HARD LOOK AT CITIZEN COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT FULFILLING YOUR OWN OBLIGATIONS.
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU TONIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR STANDING UP FOR THE CITIZENS' VETERAN.
NEXT UP MAYOR, WE HAVE A RESIDENT, CONNIE THAYER.
THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE, I JUST WANT TO, UM, ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TO EVERYBODY AROUND THE COUNTRY HERE RECENTLY IN THAT THERE WERE, UM, COMMUNICATION WAS CUT OUT.
WE WERE UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE VIA OUR TELEPHONE SERVICE.
AND, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN BROADCASTS IN ALL SORTS OF NEWS SOURCES ABOUT, UM, ISSUES WITH HACKERS BEING ABLE TO HACK, BEING SET UP AND ABLE TO HACK OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR WATER, OUR ELECTRICITY, AND OUR COMMUNICATION.
WITH ALL OF THIS COMING TO LIGHT AND COMING TO HEAD, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF OUR CITY IS PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND THAT CONCERN FOR US.
IS OUR WATER BEING PROTECTED, BEING WASH? IS OUR ELECTRICITY BEING WASHED OVER? AND, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE THE CITY TO HAVE A PLAN TO BE READY IN CASE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS.
TO NOT WAIT UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO ADDRESS IT.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO, THERE WILL BE SERIOUS CHAOS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS A VERY REAL THREAT.
WE HAVE, UH, RESIDENT MICHELLE LEAK.
AND, UH, THE NEXT, UH, IS A RESIDENT, CHRISTOPHER PATTERSON.
THAT IS THE END OF THE LIST, MA'AM.
[12. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 12, COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR, UH, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, DISCUSSION TODAY.
THANK YOU MAYOR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TONIGHT.
UM, JUST WANNA ANNOUNCE, UM, APRIL 3RD, I THINK EVERYONE IS AWARE, BUT, UH, UH, THE, UM, SUPPORTERS
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OF THE EDMOND FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE, UM, MOVING FORWARD ON, ON BUILDING A MEMORIAL FALLEN OFFICERS MEMORIAL.AND SO I'LL, I'M, I'M WORKING WITH, UH, THEM AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 3RD FOR, UH, LUNCH.
FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO COME AND SUPPORT THAT MEMORIAL, WE'LL HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO POST AND BE ABLE TO INVITE.
BUT IF, IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT, WE'LL, I'LL BE DISTRIBUTING STUFF, UH, TO PEOPLE INTERESTED IN ADMIN ABOUT DOING THAT.
A FIRE OR THE PLEASE? SORRY, I'M TIRED.
WE DON'T HAVE A YEAH, IT IS, I'M SORRY.
WE'RE GONNA DO A LUNCH AND A, A SILENT AUCTION.
WELL, COUNSEL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TO ADJOURN.