May 13, 2024 City Council

NEXT PUBLIC WORKS, EITHER LOVE THEM OR YOU LOVE THEM , BUT WITHOUT THEM WE WOULDN'T, IT WOULD BE VERY SAD.

[B. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing May 19th to May 25th as National Public Works Week.]

, WE'D BE VERY SAD.

SO WE HAD CHIEF STEWARD AND, OH, WASTE MANAGEMENT.

OH, YOU GOT YOUR BACKUP WITH YOU.

WHAT DO WE SAY HERE? THIS PROCLAMATION, PUBLIC WORK PROFESSIONALS, WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY, FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELLBEING OF THE PEOPLE OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING, AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES, ROADWAYS, TRAFFIC SAFETY, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, AND SOLID WASTE REMOVAL SERVICES, ALL OF WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.

THE 20, THE YEAR, 2024 MARKS THE 64TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I DARELL DAVIS MAYOR OF CITY OF EDMOND, HEREBY DUE, PROCLAIM MAY 19TH THROUGH MAY 25TH AS, UH, 2024 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

THANK YOU MR. STEWART.

I'D LIKE TO SAY OH, SURE.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS HAVE A, A DIFFICULT JOB, AND I WAS REMINDED OF THAT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

I ACTUALLY WENT OUT ON THE MAIN BREAK AT KELLY AND DANFORTH AND SPENT A LONG TIME OUT THERE WITH THE CREW AND, AND WATCHED THEM DO WHAT THEY DO.

AND IT WAS AN AMAZING THING, UH, TO WATCH THEM.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AROUND JOB SITES BEFORE, BUT I WAS JUST REMINDED OF, OF THE DIFFICULT JOB THAT THEY HAVE TO DO EVERY DAY.

AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND I WANT TO THANK OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOR WHAT THEY DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM, UH, WE'D GO WITHOUT A LOT OF THINGS.

SO WE JUST WANNA THANK THEM FOR THAT AS WELL.

AND THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB ON THE INTERSECTION AND VERY QUICKLY, YES, THANK YOU.

I WAS VERY HAPPY.

I WAS REMINDED ON, ON HOW WELL PUBLIC WORKS.

THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP TO ME, MOVED HERE FROM THIS STATE ON THE WEST COAST, AND PUBLIC WORKS WAS OUT WORKING IN THEIR YARD, AC BY ACCIDENT, CRACKED THEIR SIDEWALK, CALLED DOWN WITHIN TWO DAYS OF FIX.

SO THE GENTLEMAN CALLED ME BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE LOVE IT

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HERE.

I SAID, WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED IN THE STATE YOU CAME FROM? THE SIDEWALK WAS STILL BE CRACKED TODAY IF IT EVER GOT FIXED.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE GOT GOOD PUBLIC WORKS, BUT GUESS WHAT? WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO COME HERE THROUGH TOURISM.

NOW, SO WE GOT GOOD POLICE, WE GET,

[C. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing May 19th to May 25th as National Travel and Tourism Week.]

NOW THAT'S THE SECOND TIME YOUR PHONE WENT OFF, , I'LL TURN IT.

AND IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, YOU OWE DONUTS FOR EVERYBODY, CORRECT.

SO IS VISIT EDMOND GONNA COME ON DOWN BECAUSE IF YOU HADN'T NOTICED IN EDMOND, WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO PROMOTE TOURISM, UH, AND BRING PEOPLE IN HERE, .

SO WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? THE TRAVEL AND TOURISM INDUSTRY IS THE THIRD LARGEST INDUSTRY IN OKLAHOMA, PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC AND ENTERTAINMENT BENEFITS TO CITIZENS AND VISITORS.

GUESTS AT EDMONDS, 13 HOTELS, ONE BED AND BREAKFAST.

AND MORE THAN 150 VACATION HOMES CURRENTLY PAY 4% LODGING TAX THAT FUNDS TO VISIT EDMOND TO PROMOTE THE CITY AS A DESTINATION AND ATTRACT, RETAIN, AND SUSTAIN CONFERENCES AND EVENTS FOR VISITORS.

TOUR TOURISM IS THE IMPORTANT COMPONENT IN GENERATING SELF TAX REVENUE TO INVEST IN MAKING EDMOND A SAFE AND FUN PLACE TO VISIT.

THE CITY OF EDMOND CONTINUES TO WELCOME AWARD-WINNING EVENTS FROM THE O-S-S-A-A STATE'S FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP TO THE UNI UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA, AND THE STATE TITLE BELT BASEBALL SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS TO MID PARK AND HAYFORD PARK.

THEREFORE, I DARRELL A DAVIS MAYOR OF CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 19TH THROUGH MAY 25TH, 2024 AS NATIONAL TOUR TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEEK.

YOU WANT A PICTURE FIRST? OKAY.

STACY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US? OH, MY STACEY SERVES ON OUR TRAVEL AND TOURISM BOARD, WHATEVER.

THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF VISIT EDMOND.

UM, OUR STAFF IS HERE AS WELL, HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS.

WE WANNA THANK ALL THE TOURISM LOVERS IN THE ROOM, AND YOU ARE A TOURISM LOVER IF YOU EAT IN EDMOND DINE AND PLAY IN EDMOND, AND OF COURSE, STAYING IN EDMOND.

SO WE WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO TO SUPPORT EDMOND AND TO WELCOME VISITORS YEAR ROUND.

UM, I DID WANNA INTRODUCE, UH, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

HIS NAME'S DARREN KENT AND HE'S PRESIDENT OF REGENT BANK.

AND REGENT CENTER ACTUALLY IS CONTRIBUTING TO OUR TOURISM BY FINALLY HAVING A COUPLE RESTAURANTS OPEN.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE HATCH OR SIDECAR, THEY'RE LEGIT OPEN AT THIS MOMENT.

SAY, FINALLY.

FINALLY, I DID SAY THAT, UM, BUT I WANTED TO THANK DARREN.

HE JUST WAS GONNA SAY A FEW WORDS.

THANKS FOR THROWING ME UNDER THE BUS THERE.

UH, IT WASN'T MY DOING WHY IT TOOK SO LONG.

UM, BUT I AM HAPPY THAT SCOTT WILL NO LONGER ASK ME WHEN THEY'RE OPENING.

UM, FIRST JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR THIS.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, NATIONAL TOURISM AGENCY INITIATIVE THIS YEAR IS POWERING THE ECONOMY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS GOOD TIMING FOR US WITH THIS, UM, LODGING TAX COMING UP.

BUT TO REMIND YOU, THE LODGING TAX IS MORE OF A VISITOR TAX, RIGHT? IT'S FOR THE HOTELS THAT COME HERE.

UM, THE BOARD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB UNDER JENNIFER'S LEADERSHIP IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

AGAIN, THERE'S SEVERAL IN THE ROOM, AND OUR GOAL IS TO BRING A LOT OF TOURISM BACK TO THIS, THE CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT ASSETS HERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF, NOT A LOT OF REASONS WHY THEY'RE NOT HERE.

AND SO WE'VE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO DO THAT AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO SO.

AND SO WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, VOTE ON THE, ON THE ELECTION.

SO THE CHIEF'S NOT COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

OKAY, PLEASE.

SAFETY PUBLIC WORKS WELL.

WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE SOME COMPETITION.

SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THINKS THEY'RE BETTER THAN FIRE.

FIRE THINKS THEY'RE BETTER THAN POLICE.

ALL I KNOW IS WE NEED 'EM BOTH ,

[D. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing May 19th to May 25th as Emergency Medical Services Week.]

SARAH'S COMING DOWN.

SARAH AND BRIAN.

HE'S A, A DELEGATOR THAT CHIEF FALLS

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WELCOME.

SO EDMOND FIRE DEPARTMENT IN AM AMERICAN MEDICAL RESPONSE.

AMERICAN MEDICAL RESPONSE FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK TO PROVIDE LIFESAVING EMERGENCY MEDICAL TO THOSE IN NEED.

THE PARAMEDICS, EMTS, AND OTHER EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PERSONNEL WORKING IN OUR COMMUNITY DEMONSTRATE COURAGE, ENGAGE IN SPECIALIZED TRAINING TO ENHANCE THEIR SKILLS AND PUT OTHER NEEDS AND COMFORT BEFORE THEIR OWN.

AND THE EDMOND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AMERICAN MEDICAL RESPONSE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO BUILD AN EMS PROGRAM THAT ENSURES CITIZENS RECEIVE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT CARE, AND SUPERB AMBULANCE RESPONSE TIMES.

AND ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY CARE HAS A DIRECT AND DRAMATIC IMPACT ON THE SURVIVAL AND THE RECOVERY OF THOSE EXPERIENCING CRITICAL ILLNESSES AND INJURIES HONORING OUR PAST, FORGING OUR FUTURE.

THE THEME OF THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF EMS WEEK 2024 ENCOURAGES THE COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE FRONTLINE HEROES SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I DARRYL A DAVIS MAYOR CITY, EDMOND, OKLAHOMA, DO HEREBY PER PROCLAIM MAY 19TH THROUGH MAY 25TH, 2024 AS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK.

WELL, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND RECOGNIZING US.

IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR TEAM.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR JUST BEING AMAZING CITIZENS.

WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE SERVING OTHERS OF BEING A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

OKAY, .

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE MONEY THAT YOU GUYS INVEST IN US.

I WOULD SAY HANDS DOWN, WE PROBABLY HAD THE BEST EQUIPMENT THAT YOU, THAT MONEY CAN BUY.

AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF HIGH PROFILE CASES IN THE NEWS, IN THE NEWS RECENTLY THAT TURNED OUT POSITIVE.

SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND A MR THAT TOGETHER WE'RE JUST DOING GOOD THINGS OUT THERE.

BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, JUST THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.

ON THAT NOTE, YEAH, WE HAVE HAD SOME GOOD SUCCESSFUL CASES.

UH, I WAS AT THE FARMER'S MARKET ON THE FIRST DAY THAT WE REOPENED THIS, AND A LADY SAID, MAYOR, AND I SAID, YES, YOU REMEMBER ME, NO HUSBAND, HEART ATTACK TUB.

WEAR MY SPANDEX TODAY, BUT THEY TOLD ME NOT TO.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE HUSBAND HAD THE HEART ATTACK IN THE TUB.

WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOT THERE, NO BEAT, NO NOTHING.

THE GUY WAS DEAD WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BROUGHT HIM BACK TO LIFE.

AND THEY, IN THAT YEAR, THEY DID AT LEAST THREE THAT I KNOW OF WHERE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY WERE, THEY WERE DEAD WHEN THE, WHEN, WHEN FIRE GOT THERE.

BUT OUR, THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAD WAS ABLE MIRACULOUSLY WERE ABLE TO BRING THEM BACK.

AND THE GUY WAS STANDING THERE BACK TO NORMAL WIFE'S, NOT BECAUSE SHE'S STILL AFRAID THAT HE'S GONNA, BUT THE THING IS, HE'S TRAVELING AGAIN.

HE'S ALMOST NO RESTRICTIONS IN EVERYTHING THANKS TO THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET.

NOW, POLICE, FIRE, SAFETY, TOURISM.

I WAS GONNA

[E. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing May 2024 as Bike Month.]

OH NO.

BUT YOU COME OUT ON THE 18TH AND YOU'LL SEE ME IN MY SPANDEX.

, WHERE'S, WHERE'S JAN? WHO'S COMING UP? WHO'S COMING UP? SO THIS IS BICYCLE.

THIS IS ANOTHER WAY OF TRA TRANSPORTATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, AND IF YOU DO NOT KNOW, EDMOND HAS A HUGE BICYCLE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE HAVE CYCLE 66.

WE HAVE RIDES EVERY WEEK IT SEEMS LIKE AND THINGS.

SO GUESS WHAT? WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATE BICYCLE MONTH.

SO THE BICYCLE IS AN ECONOMICAL, HEALTHY, CONVENIENT, EXPENSIVE, AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND AN EXCELLENT FORM OF RECREATION AND ENJOYMENT OF EDMOND'S SCENIC BEAUTY.

CREATING BICYCLE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES HAS BEEN SHOWN TO IMPROVE CITIZENS' HEALTH, WELLBEING, QUALITY OF LIFE, COMMUNITY SPIRIT,

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TRAFFIC, SAFETY, AND TO REDUCE POLLUTION, CONGESTION, AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROADS.

THE EDUCATION OF BICYCLISTS AND MOTORS AS TO THE PROPER AND SAFE OPERATION OF BICYCLES ON ROADS IS IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND COMFORT OF ALL USERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

THE ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA GOVERNMENT, ACOG, AND THE EDMOND BICYCLE COMMITTEE FRIENDS, UH, OF BICYCLING AND INDEPENDENT CYCLISTS THROUGHOUT OUR STATE ARE PROMOTING GREATER PUBLIC AWARENESS OF BICYCLE OPERATION AND SAFETY EDUCATION IN, IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE CONDITIONS, INJURIES, AND FATAL FATALITIES FOR ALL THE 2050 OKLAHOMA CITY AREA.

RAPID REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION STUDY, OR OAK HEARTS ADOPTED BY ACOG PROMOTES DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIMODAL FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE EXPANSION OF BICYCLE UH, FACILITIES.

AND ACOG HAS HELPED COORDINATE IT BY TO WORK ACTIVITIES WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN CENTRAL OKLAHOMA SINCE 2006.

THEREFORE, I DARL DAVIS MAYOR OF CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 24TH THE ENTIRE MONTH AS BICYCLE MONTH IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA.

HERE ARE JUST A FEW THINGS YOU CAN DO.

CELEBRATE NATIONAL BIKE TO WORK, UH, DAY ON FRIDAY, MAY 17TH, GATHER AT SEVEN 30, UH, OVER HERE AT THE MUNICIPAL LIBRARY.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RIDE THERE.

THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS BEEN CELEBRATING NATIONAL NATIONAL BIKE TO WORK DAY SINCE 2007 WITH ONLY THREE YEARS BEING CANCELED DUE TO WEATHER.

WE'RE KEEPING OUR FINGERS CROSSED THIS YEAR FOR A BRIGHT SUNNY DAY TO CELEBRATE BICYCLING FOR FITNESS, FUN AND TRANSPORTATION.

EVERYONE COME OUT AND ENJOY.

VICKI WILLIAMS AND I'M CO-CHAIR OF THE BICYCLE COMMITTEE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CH THE COMMITTEE HERE AND OUR MAYOR ESPECIALLY BECAUSE HE'S AN AVID CYCLIST ALSO, UH, FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND THANK YOU FOR MY APPOINTMENT, BY THE WAY, .

UH, ALSO WE DID, I DID WANNA MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE A FULL CALENDAR OF EVENTS THIS MONTH.

MAY IS BIKE MONTH.

WE HAVE A NEW, UH, EVENT THAT WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR THE END OF THE MONTH ON MAY 21ST, WHICH IS A TUESDAY.

WE HAVE BICYCLE MOVIE NIGHT AT FRENZY AND IT'S AT SIX 30.

WE WILL BE WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY CALLED MAJOR TAYLOR CHAMPION OF THE RACE.

SO I HOPE YOU ALL CAN, UH, JOIN US AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR SUPPORT.

NOW WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS MAYOR APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS REAPPOINTING LUCAS MUNSON TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, BOARD OF APPEALS TERM, EXPIRES JUNE, 2027, THE WARD FOUR APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS HIS APPOINTMENT OF MATTHEW MEYERS TO THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT REVIEW COMMITTEE TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2027.

ALRIGHT, DON'T YOU, NO NO, THAT'S WHY I SIT RIGHT OVER THERE.

ALRIGHT, THAT WAS A LOT.

[3. Appointments and Reappointments:]

OTHER REAPPOINTMENTS OR REAPPOINTMENT OF LOUISE CANNON AS THE EDMOND FIRE FINE ARTS INSTITUTE REPRESENTATIVE TO THE EDMOND VISIT ARTS COMMISSION TERM EXPIRES JUNE, 2027.

THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR APPOINTMENTS OR REAPPOINTMENTS COUNSEL FOR THIS MEETING.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I MOVE TO APPROVE A SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

WE HAVE THOSE ARE NOW, NOW NEW APPOINTMENTS.

NEXT WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECESS THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CALL TO ORDER OF THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.

[4. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]

SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION

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FOR MORE SECOND FROM PETERSON.

UH, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE'RE NOW IN THE PUBLIC WORKS.

FIRST

[A. Consideration of Approval of Public Works Authority Regular Meeting Minutes: April 22, 2024. (Citywide)]

ORDER IS CONSIDERATION OF THE APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 22ND, 2024.

SO MOVED.

IS, THESE ARE, UH, OTHER GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS, COUNSEL, DO WE NEED TO PULL ANY OF THOSE FOR ITEM FIVE, B OR C FOR ANY DIS FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE? HEARING NONE, I WILL TAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THOSE MEETING MINUTES HAVE BEEN PASSED.

THANK YOU MUCH.

[5. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE B AND C.

YOU HAVE A MOTION? SECOND AND SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THOSE TWO PUBLIC WORKS, GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS PASSED.

NEXT IS ITEM SIX B IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF, UH, WHOLE ORDER WHOLESALE WASTEWATER TREATMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT NUMBER ONE AND THE ETT PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.

NEXT, WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION ITEM I NUMBER SIX.

[B. Consideration of Approval of a Wholesale Wastewater Treatment Agreement between the Logan County Rural Water District #1 and the Edmond Public Works Authority. (Citywide)]

OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CHRIS FROM WATER HERE FOR, UH, PRESENTATION.

THEIR LIMITS, UH, THEY, THEY WOULD, UH, MAINTAIN THEIR OWN SYSTEM OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

CHRIS ING, DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES.

UM, JUST GONNA DISCUSS OUR, UH, PROPOSED AGREEMENT WITH, UH, LOGAN COUNTY ROAD WATER.

SO LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM.

STAFF WAS APPROACHED REGARDING WASTEWATER NEEDS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN ON AND OFF TALKING TO LOGAN COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME.

LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT, NOT LOGAN COUNTY ITSELF.

UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, ABOUT WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS.

UM, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE 20 PLUS YEARS, UH, WE'VE GENERALLY JUST PUT THAT DISCUSSION OFF BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S JUST NO INTEREST AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY AT THE TIME.

UM, SO, UH, LOOKING AT IT NOW, WE'VE GOT CAPACITY.

UH, OUR WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS HAVE MADE A HUGE INVESTMENT.

UM, SO THE, THE AGREEMENT IS WE'VE CRAFTED IT OVER THE PAST YEAR, UH, WORKING THROUGH THIS, GOING THROUGH NUMEROUS PUBLIC MEETINGS.

I'LL GO OVER HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH THE TOWN OF ARCADIA IN THAT WE SERVE THEM BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER FOR ARCADIA, ALL OF IT.

UM, SO THE AGREEMENT IS CRAFTED AFTER THAT.

AND ALSO AFTER, UM, SOME OF OUR AGREEMENTS WITH OKLAHOMA CITY ON, UH, ON THE WATER SIDE.

WASTEWATER, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE UNIQUE AGREEMENT MAINLY FOR THE SOUTH AND WEST BORDERS FOR SOME SHARED SEWERS.

BUT, UM, I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT THOSE HAVE ALLOWED OUR SOUTH AND WEST SIDES OF EDMOND AND OKLAHOMA CITY BORDER TO, UH, GROW PRETTY NATURALLY OVER THE YEARS.

UH, HERE'S A PROPOSED MAP OVER OF THE PROPOSED SERVICE AREA.

THIS IS ALL UNINCORPORATED AREAS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

UM, NOTHING WITHIN THE, UH, CITY LIMITS AND ALL, BUT ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, ARE IN LOGAN COUNTY, ONE IN OKLAHOMA COUNTY.

SO IN TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS.

NOBODY WANTED TO READ THE 70 PAGES OF.

UM, IT, IT WAS FUN TO GO THROUGH.

UH, BUT LOOKING AT 40 YEARS, UH, THE TERM LENGTH IS SO THAT, UM, IF WE'RE MAKING AN AGREEMENT, IT'S LONGER THAN OUR CURRENT REVENUE BOND, UM, RUNS.

AND ANY LOANS THAT WE SECURE, WE NEED A GOOD LENGTH OF TIME, UH, TO SECURE THAT.

IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IT JUST GIVES US A LITTLE MORE SECURITY AND STABILITY ON OUR, UH, BOND RATINGS.

UM, ANY FUTURE AREAS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH AMENDMENTS AND THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT'S NOT STAFF MAKING THE DECISION.

WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION, YES, WE'VE GOT CAPACITY, UM, OR NO, IT WOULD HAVE THIS KIND OF IMPACT, BUT WE WOULD BRING BACK EACH, UH, TO COUNCIL.

UH, ALL INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT AND PAID FOR BY LOGAN COUNTY WITHIN THE CITY OF EDMOND LIMITS AND

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WE MAINTAIN WHAT WE REQUIRE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

SO, UH, EDMOND CUSTOMERS ARE NOT PAYING FOR ANY OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY PAID FOR.

LIKE THE PLANT ITSELF.

WE WOULD METER THE FLOWS AT THE LIMITS, UM, OR CREATE SOME OTHER AGREEMENT.

THEY'VE GOT SMART METERS.

SO WE, WE MAY ENTERTAIN SOME OTHER OPTIONS, BUT, UM, WE WOULD DO AN ENGINEERING LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

UM, AND AS I SAID, LOGAN COUNTY MAINTAINS THEIR OWN SYSTEMS. SO WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, JUST LIKE WE DON'T WITH THE TOWN OF ARCADIA OR OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND THEN BUILD MONTHLY, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CUSTOMER.

UH, ONCE WE ESTABLISH A CONNECTION AND USAGE IS ESTABLISHED, AND THEN OUR, OUR CAPACITY FEES FOR, UH, WASTEWATER, UM, WOULD BE CHARGED TO ALL THEIR NEW CONNECTIONS.

SO BASICALLY THEY BUILD ANYTHING, THEN THEY'RE CHARGED OUR, UH, WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEE.

SO JUST LIKE ANY OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

AND, UH, ONE THING I DIDN'T PUT ON THERE, BUT THE, THE WHOLESALE RATE IN THE TOWN OF ARCADIA PAYS THIS, BUT IS SET AT THE SAME AS OUR RETAIL RATE, EXCEPT THAT WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, BILLING THEIR CUSTOMERS.

WE JUST HAVE SINGLE POINTS.

SO WE WON'T HAVE 3000 CUSTOMERS BILL, WE'LL HAVE ONE.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE ECONOMY OF SCALE AND, UM, IT'S THE REASON WHOLESALE IS THE BUSINESS TO BE IN.

UH, JUST FEW ADVANTAGES OF WHOLESALE, WASTEWATER, REGIONAL APPROACH.

UM, YOU KNOW, REDUCING IMPACTS ON CURRENT AND FUTURE BILLS FOR OUR, UH, WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS.

THEY'VE BEEN ASKED, UH, ASKED TO FRONT A LOT OF MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE.

UM, ESTIMATED IMPACT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, TWO AND A HALF TO 5 MILLION.

IT'S VARIABLE JUST BASED ON WHAT THEY DEVELOP, BECAUSE IT'S PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.

UM, AND THE, THE MORE DENSE IT IS, OBVIOUSLY THE MORE WE WOULD COLLECT.

SO, UM, AND JUST FOR SCALE, THAT, THAT'S ABOUT 10% OF OUR, UM, REVENUE IS THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION CURRENT REVENUE.

UH, IT'S MORE OF A LONG TERM OUTLOOK BECAUSE ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING EXERCISE, FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE TIE-INS CAN BE MADE, UM, AND THEN HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES 'EM TO BUILD OUT AND WHOLESALE WASTEWATER.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE EVEN ENTERTAINED IT WAS THEY WERE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE PACKAGE PLANTS THAT DISCHARGE INTO THE CITY OF EDMOND.

UM, AT LEAST THREE ARE BEING PERMITTED.

NOW I UNDERSTAND ONE IS MOVED FURTHER ALONG THAN THE OTHERS.

UM, BUT, UM, SMALL WASTEWATER PLANTS THAT ARE UNDER 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF CAPACITY HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, DISCHARGE LIMITS THAN, UM, OUR PLANT THAT IS, UH, 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

AND THAT'S JUST SCALING.

SO, UM, AND SCALING MEAN MEANING THAT THE LARGER PLANT, THE MORE DAMAGE YOU CAN DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO, UM, JUST THE WAY THAT DEQ AND THE EPA HAS LOOKED AT IT, UM, AND THEN JUST POINTING OUT THAT IT COULD CAUSE FURTHER UPGRADES AND THAT, AND THAT'S FOR ANYTHING DISCHARGING INTO OUR STREAMS. UM, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER, SEPTIC, AEROBIC, UM, PACKAGE PLANTS, ANY OF THAT.

AND JUST POINTING OUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, UM, BACK IN JUNE, I THINK I GOT THAT UPDATE.

UH, LAST JUNE STARTED THE DISCUSSION DECEMBER WE BROUGHT FORTH A DRAFT AGREEMENT, UM, DISCUSSED THE FINAL AGREEMENT IN, UH, MARCH 27TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN, UH, PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE APPROVED THREE TO ZERO.

AND THEN WE TOOK THIS ITEM, UM, BACK IN DECEMBER TO EEDA, UH, DISCUSSED IT WITH THE BOARD.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY ACTION, BUT WE DID WANT FEEDBACK, UH, JUST TO GET EEDA.

AND I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR EEDA, SO I BELIEVE JAN'S HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BUT NOT TRYING TO VOLUNTEER.

BUT, UM, THERE WE GO.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL QUESTIONS? YOU, SO THE PACKAGE PLANT'S REQUIREMENTS ARE SET BY DEQ.

CORRECT.

AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT AS STRINGENT AS CITY OF EDMOND IS NOT OUR

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PLANT.

IT'S THE SIZE OF PLANT THAT DETERMINES THE DISCHARGE LIMITS AND THEN ALSO THE STREAM THAT YOU'RE DISCHARGING INTO.

SO PACKAGE PLANTS POTENTIALLY COULD DISCHARGE MORE CONTAMINANTS INTO OUR SYSTEM.

CORRECT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE TRADE-OFFS, RIGHT.

UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I GUESS WHAT, STEVE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE BETTER EXPLAINING THIS.

I CAN SEE HE'S ITCHING THERE, BUT, UM, HE REALLY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT WASTEWATER.

BUT, UM, SO ANY, ANYTHING THAT YOU, WE LOOK AT CONVENTIONAL POLLUTANTS AND WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW.

UH, WHETHER IT'S, UM, WHAT WE TREAT FOR AMMONIA, NITRATES, ALL THESE THINGS.

SO THE DIRTIER THE STREAM, UH, COMING TO THE PLANT WHERE WE DISCHARGE, THE MORE WE HAVE TO CLEAN THAT UP POTENTIALLY.

IT'S NOT GUARANTEE, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT A FAN OF USING SCARE TACTICS, RIGHT.

SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT THEY'RE JUST GONNA POLLUTE THE WHOLE CITY OF MOND.

'CAUSE THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE, UH, CLEAN WATER ACT.

SO, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HELP ANYTHING EITHER.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN YOU SAID, SO WHAT IF, IF WE APPROVE THIS, WHAT THEY WOULD BE PAYING IS EQUAL TO RESIDENTIAL RATES? CORRECT? THAT IS THE WHOLESALE RATE IS EQUAL TO RESIDENTIAL RATES? YES.

THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET CURRENTLY.

SO, UM, OUR RATES, OUR RETAIL RATES INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM BILLING TO LINE MAINTENANCE TO, UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE AND ALL THAT BUILT INTO IT AS WELL.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START BACKING OUT SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS, THEN THE COST WOULD COME DOWN.

EXCEPT THAT COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED THE, THE RETAIL RATE AS THE WHOLESALE RATE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, PROBABLY THE PAST 10.

WE'VE KEPT IT THE SAME SO THAT THE TOWN OF ARCADIA DIDN'T GET A BETTER DEAL THAN OUR CUSTOMERS AND RIGHT.

AND AS THEY SHOULDN'T.

JUST LIKE OKLAHOMA CITY DOESN'T CUT US ANY DEALS ON WATER OR ANYBODY ELSE.

YOU KNOW, IN TURN, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S JUST THE WAY BUSINESS WORKS.

IF, IF OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE INVESTED, THEN THEY SHOULD GET RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, SO IF, IF, IF WE DO THIS, THEN WE CONTROL THAT THE WASTEWATER COMING INTO EDMOND CITY LIMITS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

WHAT ABOUT THINGS GOING ON UPSTREAM FROM THERE? WE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO.

UM, I, I GUESS I JUST, I DIDN'T QUITE, OKAY.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO THROW THAT OUT AS A, SOME SCARE TACTIC BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EASILY APPROVE A SUBDIVISION THAT'S ABSOLUTELY HAS WATER AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING AEROBIC SYSTEMS IN AND THEY, YOU KNOW, IS STRANDED DOWN THE STREETS.

AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAINTAIN 'EM, I MEAN, THAT HAPPENS TOO.

SO, AND YOU SAID THAT'S MAINLY GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.

NOW, YOU KNOW, I'LL POINT OUT THAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ONE OF THE AREAS I 35 AND WATERLOO, THERE'S ALREADY SOME COMMERCIAL AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WENDY'S, UH, BRAS, A CAR WASH, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN, UH, SUPPOSEDLY SOME APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.

SO WITH THE, THE MAP AND THERE'S LIKE SEVEN LITTLE BOXES, RIGHT? YEP.

AND SO ALL OF THOSE ARE CONTROLLED BY THE LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT? CORRECT.

AND NONE OF THEM ARE IN, WELL, ARE, AND NONE OF THEM ARE IN THE EDMOND CITY LIMITS, CORRECT? OR, WELL, I GUESS THEY COULD BE, BUT THEY'RE SERVICED BY THE LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT.

ALL SEVEN OF THESE SQUARES.

LOGAN COUNTY IS PART OF OUR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON THE WATER SIDE.

THEY DROPPED ALL CLAIMS TO SEWER WITHIN EDMOND LIMITS.

THEY DID NOT, YOU KNOW, UM, C ANY TERRITORY INSIDE THEIR LIMITS.

GOTCHA.

BUT, UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S THE DISTINCTION TO MAKE IT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR LIMITS, BUT THEIR TERRITORY AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CLAIMS TO SEWER WITHIN OURS.

SO IN YOUR PRISON, OH, I'LL SAY, UM, SO BEING ON CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, YOU GO FROM JEOPARDY, YOU GO FROM ISSUE TO ISSUE.

SOME, YOU KNOW, MORE ABOUT, I WOULD SAY WHEN IT COMES TO WASTEWATER, LONGTIME USER, UH, FIRST TIME RESEARCHER.

QUESTIONS FROM PO FOLKS THAT ARE ASKING QUESTIONS TO ME.

UH, WOULD BE HOW I DESCRIBE MY RELATIONSHIP.

UH, SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ASK JUST AS MANY QUESTIONS AS I CAN AND FIELD

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SO WE HAVE A, UH, ACOG, WHICH FOR THOSE UN UNANOINTED WITH THE, UM, ACRONYM, THE, UH, ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA GO GOVERNMENTS WHERE OUR REGIONAL METRO JURISDICTIONS GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME UNIFIED POLICIES IN AND AROUND THINGS, WHETHER THEY BE TRANSPORTATION, SMOG, IN THIS CASE, WASTEWATER THAT, UH, COULD EITHER BENEFIT OR IMPACT US IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

SURE.

I KNOW WE HAVE A SEAT ON THEIR BOARD.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO PACKAGING PLANTS, WHERE DO THOSE SORT OF RANK IN REGARDS TO PREFERRED SOLUTIONS? I THINK THEY'RE NOT PREFERRED AT ALL FROM A DQ STANDPOINT, BUT THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY DISALLOW IF THE ENTITY, UM, IS ASKING FOR THEM.

IF THEY'RE A RURAL WATER DISTRICT OR A CITY, THEN THEY ARE ALLOWED, UH, IT'S AN OPTION AND A TOOL THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AS FAR AS ENTITIES, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UM, THEY'RE PRETTY RESTRICTIVE AS FAR AS PRIVATE USE OF THEM.

SO, SO THERE'S THREE THAT ARE IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

ONE THAT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S READY.

IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE OR, I THINK READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEP.

THEY'VE GOT THEIR, UH, UH, 2 0 8 PERMIT, I BELIEVE.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST, UH, UH, LOOKING AT THE STREAM AND WHERE THEY'RE DISCHARGING.

SO WHAT WAS THE, BRING ME INTO THE ROOM 'CAUSE THIS PREDATES ME, CITY COUNCIL, WHAT WAS SORT OF THE CONVERSATION, WHAT DID EDMOND BRING UP IN THAT, UM, CONVERSATION WITH ACOG AS FAR AS ANY POTENTIAL CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WHEN THEY APPROVED IT? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE.

I, I WAS NOT ON THE BOARD THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAD WATER STAFF THERE AT ALL OR ANYTHING? WE DON'T.

WE, WE DIDN'T OR WE DON'T, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON STAFF THERE.

IT WOULD BE A COUNCIL MEMBER.

NORMALLY WE JUST HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO SIT ON THE ACOC BOARD AND I'M, I AM THE CURRENT MEMBER THAT'S ON THE ACOC BOARD.

'CAUSE MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON A LOT OF BOARDS, SOME HALLELUJAH, GET TO PUT MY HISTORY DEGREE TO WORK AT THE EDMUND HISTORICAL TRUST.

I LOVE IT.

OTHER THINGS WHEN IT CAME, WHEN I WAS ON THE AIRPORT AND OTHER THINGS TAKE A LOT SORT OF TECHNICAL AND, AND THINGS.

SO I KNOW KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT APPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE.

I'M JUST SORT OF TRYING TO DIG INTO, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COMMENT PERIOD.

THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE IT.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF AND HOW, OR WHEN WE MADE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO ANY POTENTIAL IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE OR COSTS THAT WE MIGHT INCUR FOR A PACKING PLANT OR IF THOSE DISCUSSIONS OCCURRED AT ALL.

NO, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON IT.

UM, DO WE KNOW OR HAVE ANY THOUGHT PROCESS IF WE DIDN'T APPROVE THIS, IS ACOG LIKELY TO APPROVE AS MANY AS THEY REQUEST? OR WHAT IS THE SORT OF, I'VE NEVER BEEN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE I'M TRYING TO VOTE, BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THAT MEETING OR THAT PROCESS OR UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK ACOG IS A STEP IN THE APPROVAL, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY APPROVAL.

'CAUSE DEQ ADMINISTERS THE, UH, WATER QUALITY STANDARDS, PERMITS, PLANTS, THAT KIND OF THING, NOT, UH, AND THEN EPAS INVOLVED AS WELL.

SO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MY FRIENDS, UH, WHO I KNOW FROM ALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL OF US DO, THEY'LL, THEY'LL START TALKING TO ME AND I'M LIKE, WAIT, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AND UH, OF COURSE THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES LIVING IN EDMOND.

THEY PROBABLY LIVE NORTH OF WATERLOO.

THEY GO TO AN EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL, TELL 'EM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR GARBAGE CAN OR TALK ABOUT WHO DOES THEIR UTILITIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T PARTICULARLY PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, BUT I KNOW WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING STUFF AS A LAY PERSON, IF I'M SOUTH OF WATERLOO, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR ENTIRE REVIEW PROCESS FOR BUILDING AND PERMITS AND TRYING TO STRENGTHEN THOSE COME UP WITH IMPACT FEES IF I BUILD ACROSS THE STREET.

DO THEY HAVE ANY OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS? I'M NORTH OF WATERLOO THAT WE KNOW OF? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I'M, I'M NOT SURE THOUGH, IS THERE ANY WAY OUTSIDE OF THIS WATER AGREEMENT, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN OUR UTILITY SYSTEM, THEN DO YOU HAVE TO BUILD TO SOME SORT OF STANDARD THAT THEY HAVE TO ACROSS THE ROAD OR, OR IS THAT JUST SORT OF A JU JURISDICTION, NON, NON-NEGOTIABLE? UM, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE WERE NEGOTIATING.

WE WERE LOOKING AT IT SOLELY FROM A WASTEWATER STANDPOINT, WASTEWATER UTILITY, UM, AND WHAT BENEFITS OUR CUSTOMERS NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHERS DO IN THEIR LIMITS.

SO.

UM, DO WE KNOW OF, I DON'T, I THINK, I THINK THE ANSWER IS WE DIDN'T QUITE ABLE TO CALCULATE, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT IT MIGHT COST US AS FAR AS TO CLEAN ANYTHING BEFORE, IF THEY, IF THEY JUST WENT THE PACKING ROUTE, IF WE DIDN'T APPROVE THIS, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MIGHT COST US.

I THINK, I MEAN, THAT'S SORT OF A KEY QUESTION I'VE BEEN JUST TURNING OVER IN MY HEAD IS THAT IF I GO NORTH AND I DON'T, I NEED, I DON'T NEED FIRE SUPPRESSION OR I DON'T NEED, UH, CERTAIN PERMITS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S MY COST TO BUILD VERSUS IF I, IF I GO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND I'M GONNA PARTICIPATE IN A NEW, UM, IMPACT FEE, I'M GONNA PARTICIPATE LIKE THAT, THAT KIND OF STUDY.

UM, DO WE,

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CORRECT? NO.

AND, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO THROW A NUMBER OUT.

AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT A SCARE TACTIC AS JUST, YOU KNOW, REALITY OF DISCHARGING DIFFERENT WASTEWATER STANDARDS THAN OURS.

SO, AND THEN I'M NOT A WASTEWATER EXPERT.

I'M ALSO NOT A LAWYER.

WHEN I READ THE DOCUMENT, I THINK I SAW THE WORDS LIKE UNEN, LIKE BASICALLY THE WAY I READ IT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY THAT IF THIS AGREEMENT'S IN PLACE WITHOUT SORT OF, CAUSE WE COULDN'T IN, WE, WE COULDN'T STOP FUTURE, UH, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.

I'M JUST ASKING, ONCE WE SIGN THIS, ARE WE ABLE TO GO IN THEN AND, AND KIND OF HIT THE BRAKES ON STUFF OR THE, THE WAY I LOOKED AT THE DOCUMENT IS SORT OF, TO ME IT'S KIND OF READ LIKE, WELL, IF WE DO THIS, UNLESS THERE'S SOME SORT OF LIKE HUGE AT COST SOMETHING, THEN IT KIND OF, THIS IS THE STANDARD.

THIS IS WHAT IS APPROVED.

SO IT COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE ANY ADDITIONAL AREAS.

AND THAT WOULD BE BASED ON A STAFF RECOMMENDATION? NO, I'M NOT, NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL AREAS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT.

SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WANNA BUILD A, I DON'T KNOW, WE WERE JUST JOKING AROUND ABOUT BUCKY'S THE OTHER DAY.

UH, LIKE ALL JUST THINK IT, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE SAY HYPOTHETICALLY SOMETHING WANTS TO COME IN BUCKY'S, WHATEVER, LIKE THAT IT'S NORTH OF WATERLOO, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE ENTITY MIGHT BE, OR, OR SOME BIG WHATEVER, WE CAN'T GO IN AND INDIVIDUALLY SAY, NO THANK YOU.

ONCE WE GIVE THIS, IT'S WHATEVER THEY DO WITHIN THOSE AREAS, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLAWBACK OR IS THERE A CLAWBACK? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THE ONLY PROHIBITED USES ARE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ADDITIONAL COST.

THAT'S NOT A CONVENTIONAL POLLUTANT.

SO CONVENTIONAL BEING COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, UM, BUT IF IT GETS INTO SOME INDUSTRY THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO CREATE A PROGRAM, THEN WE WOULD GO BACK AND ASK THEM FOR ANY ADMINISTRATION AND COST RECOVERY FOR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.

SO YES, WE, WE COULD DO IT REASONABLY, BUT REASONABLY WOULD BE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM.

NOW, IF YOU CAUSE THIS PROGRAM, THEN YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT.

YEP.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

WHAT, IN YOUR EARLIER PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF EDMOND IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT? UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT'S YEAH.

EXPAND ON IT SO WE CAN, EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE AND HOW SIMILAR TO THAT IS TO WHAT COULD HAPPEN ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE.

SO THE, THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES OF EDMOND HAVE SHARED SEWERS AND A SHARED SEWER AGREEMENT WITH OKLAHOMA CITY SINCE THE FIFTIES.

UM, SO AS BOTH CITIES HAVE GROWN, WE'VE SHARED SEWERS, UPGRADED, MADE A COUPLE DIFFERENT, UH, AMENDMENTS, SO NO MONEY HAS CHANGED HANDS, BUT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE JUST MADE HANDSHAKE AGREEMENTS BASICALLY WHERE OKLAHOMA CITY BUILT A SEWER.

WE HAD A PLANT WITH CAPACITY, SO WE TREATED THE SEWER, BOUGHT THE LAND.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TRADE OFFS AND IT WASN'T EVEN MONEY SHAKING HANDS NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT KIND OF THING HAPPEN? NO.

EH, MAYBE NOT, BUT PROBABLY BE MORE DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR.

BUT, UM, WE USED TO HAVE A PLANT OVER AT COFFEE CREEK IN WESTERN.

WE DID AWAY WITH THAT.

OKLAHOMA SEAS EXPANDED THEIRS OVER TIME, AND WE STILL, UH, SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME SEWER.

SO THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT FOR 70 YEARS, IT'S WORKED JUST FINE.

AND, AND IT'S BENEFITED BOTH OF US.

SO AT ONE POINT WE WERE TREATING WASTEWATER AND THEY WERE GETTING SOME BENEFIT.

NOW THEY'VE GOT THE SEWER AND WE, WE UTILIZE IT FOR HALF OF EDMOND AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO CHARGE.

SO, DO WE HAVE ANY AGREEMENTS NOW ON THE WEST SIDE OF EDMOND? WHEN YOU GO, WHAT IS IT? PORTLAND? UH, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON THE WEST SIDE OF EDMOND AND, AND, AND OKLAHOMA CITY, FAR NORTH OKLAHOMA CITY? NO, NOT GOING THAT FAR OUT.

IT'S GENERALLY IN THE CHISHOLM BASIN.

SO, UM, OVER TOWARDS THE PENN AND MEMORIAL AND BACK TOWARDS THE VILLAGE, THAT KIND OF AREA.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION OR I HAVE A COMMENT.

WE'LL DO THAT AT THE MOTION TIME.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, WE CAN IF YOU WANT.

AT THE TIME? SIGNING IT WITH OKLAHOMA CITY? OR WAS IT TWO CITIES SIGNING AN AGREEMENT? IT, IT'S NOT THE SAME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT APPLE'S TO APPLE.

SO THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU REFERENCED WITH OKLAHOMA CITY, WAS IT BETWEEN, WERE WE A RURAL WATER? UH, I WASN'T ALIVE AT THE TIME.

WERE WE A RURAL, RURAL WATER DISTRICT

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SO FOR, FOR US ANYWAY, IT'S UTILITY TO UTILITY, NOT NECESSARILY CITY TO CITY.

IT WAS BENEFITING CUSTOMERS VERSUS, UH, CITIZENS.

SO IT, I MEAN, AS THE EPWA LOOKS, UH, IS THE SAME AS A RURAL WATER DISTRICT OR A OKLAHOMA CITY WATER UTILITIES TRUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING, OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL'S APPROVED THIS TOO.

SO EVERYBODY'S DEVELOPED THEIR OWN STANDARDS ALONG THE WAY.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL RIGHT NOW, IF ANY? THIS ITEM IS UNDER, UM, I JUST LOST IT.

DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION.

THE LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT ONE, UH, THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES OF THESE SEVEN SITES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE RURAL WATER DISTRICT OF LOGAN COUNTY.

, RIGHT.

UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THAT, UM, ANYONE WANTED TO MAKE ON THIS? PLEASE COME DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

UH, MY NAME'S DEREK TURNER.

I'M AT 38 56 SOUTH BOULEVARD, SUITE ONE 40, UH, HERE IN EDMOND.

I WORE A JACKET TODAY TO BE REALLY OFFICIAL AS OPPOSED TO SHORTS.

I COULDN'T FIND A TIE, MAYOR DAVIS, THAT WOULD FIT MY NECK.

SO I DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.

UM, JUST OUR POINTER, THESE SITES.

I'M A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER, SO I'M USED TO EVERY DAY FIGURING OUT WHERE SEWER'S GONNA GO AND HOW IT'S GONNA GO AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA MAKE WORK.

AND SEWER IS ESSENTIALLY GRAVITY FLOW DOWNHILL.

THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.

YOU CAN LIFT IT, YOU CAN PUT IT IN A LIFT STATION, AND YOU CAN LIFT IT AND PUT IT INTO A FORCED MAIN, A PIPE THAT'S UNDER PRESSURE TO FORCE THE SEWAGE BACKUP TO ANOTHER DIRECTION.

WE DO THAT VERY LITTLE IN EDMOND.

WE DO HAVE SOME EDMOND SITES THAT DO THAT, THAT ARE EDMOND OWNED.

UH, THE REGION, THE LOCAL LOCAL DEVELOPERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

UH, I'VE BEEN DEVELOPING HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND WE'VE NEVER DONE A LIFT STATION.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO DO A LIFT STATION, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ALLOWED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

WE DON'T DO 'EM HERE IN EDMOND.

I KNOW THERE'S A REASON WHY, BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY.

SO EVERYTHING WE DEAL WITH IN MOND HAS TO BE BASED ON GRAVITY FLOW.

IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT BASED ON FORCED MAINS OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

IS THIS A POINTER? DON'T DO THIS.

AND THE PROPERTIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM ARE THE, THE LEFT CORNER RIGHT THERE, THE SQUARE THAT'S RIGHT ON THE LEFT CORNER, RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS SANTA FE AVENUE.

UH, THAT SITE IS, DOES NOT, IS NOT SERVED BY, UH, LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT.

IT'S SERVED BY THE DEER CREEK WATER DISTRICT.

THAT'S 160 ACRES.

IT'S NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S IN THE COUNTY LIMITS.

IT'S IN THE COUNTY, AND IT'S SERVED BY DEER CREEK WATER.

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE CHANCE OF THESE SITES BEING DEVELOPED IN THE COUNTY.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LIMITATION OF TWO ACRE LOT MINIMUM.

IT'S AS SMALL AS YOU CAN GO IN A LOT IN COUNTY, OUT IN A RURAL AREA.

THAT AREA RIGHT THERE WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO ACRE LOT ENEMIES.

IT WON'T BE DEVELOPED WITH USING HOUSINGS.

WE WON'T GET ANY REVENUE OFF OF THAT SITE.

THE SITES TO THE NORTH OF THAT UP ON WATERLOO ROAD, BOTH OF 'EM ARE IN AND AROUND THE OAK TREE AREA.

THOSE ARE A 320 ACRE SITE ON THE LEFT.

AND 160 ACRE SITE ON THE RIGHT.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS ABOUT 50% FLOODPLAIN, BUT IT IS ALSO BELOW THE STREAM.

THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET SEWER OUT THAT ONE IS TO BUILD A LIFT STATION AND GRA AND FORCE PUMP IT UP INTO EDMOND AND YOU'RE GONNA PUMP IT INTO THE CLOSEST PLACE YOU CAN.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE OAK TREE SYSTEM.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES, 'CAUSE I'VE TRIED TO DO PROPERTIES OUT IN THAT AREA, WE'VE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY THAT THE OAK TREE SYSTEM IS NEAR CAPACITY AND WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO PUT ANYTHING INTO THAT ONE.

UH, IT'S ALSO CONTROLLED BY THE DEER CREEK WATER DISTRICT, AND IT'S IN DEER CREEK SCHOOLS.

THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT IS IN EDMOND SCHOOLS, BUT IT FALLS UNDER THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S EDMOND WATER THERE, ACTUALLY.

SO IT'S NOT IN THE, IT'S NOT IN LOGAN COUNTY RURAL WATER DISTRICT.

AND THAT SITE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE GRAVITY FLOWED AND PUMPED INTO OAK TREE AND HAVE TO RUN THROUGH OAK TREE UP THROUGH THE LIFT STATIONS.

AND EVENTUALLY ACROSS THE, UH, ACROSS TOWN WHERE WE RUN OUR, OUR, OUR PRIMARY MAINS THAT GO THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, YOU HAVE THE TWO SITES UP ON WATERLOO AND I 35, THE ONE WHERE YOU SEE THAT'S CLEARED, AND YOU HAVE THE ONE TO THE NORTH OF THAT, A 320 ACRES SITE.

NORTH OF THAT.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN

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THOSE SITES, IRONICALLY, WILL GRAVITY FLOW.

THEY WOULD GRAVITY FLOW STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE, TO THE SOUTH AND GO DIRECTLY INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM THAT IS LINED UP.

UH, ESSENTIALLY RIGHT WHERE THE BACKSIDE OF WHERE CROSSINGS CHURCH IS GETTING READY TO BUILD A NEW CHURCH AT AIR DEPOT AND COVE, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF GRAVITY FLOWING THOSE SYSTEMS. GRAVITY FLOW LINES, IT'S NOT THAT INEXPENSIVE.

IT'S EASY TO DO.

THE OTHER TWO SITES ON THE OTHER SIDE, THOSE ARE IN THE, IN, THEY'RE IN LOGAN COUNTY.

THEY ARE, UM, THEY, ONCE AGAIN, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET SEWER TO THOSE IS TO LIFT THE SEWER.

THE SEWER.

THERE'S A, WE HAVE BASICALLY THREE BASINS IN EDMOND.

WE HAVE THE CHISHOLM BASIN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, AND ALL THE CHISHOLM PROPERTY, ALL THE CHISHOLM FLOW IN WA AND OUR WATER FLOWS BACK TO GUTHRIE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IN THIS REPORT, IT SAYS THAT ALL OF THESE SITES FLOW INTO EDMOND.

THEY DON'T, THE THREE ON THE LEFT FLOW NORTH INTO GUTHRIE, THAT'S THE CHISHOLM CREEK BASIN.

THE COFFEE CREEK BASIN IS WHAT'S IN THE MIDDLE BELOW SIMMONS ROAD AND COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN AND GOES TO THE BACKSIDE OF LAKE ARCADIA AND THEN HITS THE DEEP FORK AND GOES OUT THE DEEP FORK.

THAT ONE WE DO HAVE SEWER UP THAT, THAT'S THE SAME SEWER LINE THAT WE TOOK OUT FOR, UH, WE EXTENDED UP FOR WOODLAND PARK AND SOME OTHER PROPERTIES LIKE THAT.

THAT WHOLE AREA IN TOWN WAS THAT AREA THAT WE, WHAT WE PUT SEWER TO THE OTHER AREA.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HILL FROM WOODLAND PARK FLOWS IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.

SO THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET IT BACK INTO EDMOND IS TO GRAVITY FLOW IT FROM MILES OR I NOT GRADUATE FLOW.

YOU'D HAVE TO FORCE MAGNET FOR MILES TO GET THAT IN HERE.

THOSE AREN'T EDMOND SCHOOLS.

UH, I CAN'T QUITE TELL FROM THE MAPS.

THEY DON'T APPEAR TO BE IN THE LOGAN COUNTY.

UH, THERE COULD BE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY COULD POSSIBLY GET OUT THERE IF THEY WANTED TO RUN WATER LINES WAY OUT THERE.

BUT THERE IS NO WATER LINES OUT THERE, THERE'S NO SERVICE OUT THERE.

IN FACT, POST ROAD THAT YOU SEE UP THROUGH THERE, THERE ISN'T A POST ROAD IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THERE, POST ROAD DOESN'T EXIST OUT THERE.

SO THE ONLY WAY THOSE TWO PROPERTIES ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPED OUT THERE IS TO DO A FORCED MAIN SEWER AND BUILD A SECTION LINE ROAD FOR AT LEAST A MILE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THOSE.

SO WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THIS DEAL AND WE SAY IT'S ABOUT THE REVENUE, I, I DISPUTE THAT FIRST OFF, I LOOK AT IT AND I SAY, YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE SITES.

YOU'VE GOT SEVEN SITES WHICH ACCUMULATE ABOUT 1900 ACRES, ROUGHLY.

I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW 1900 ACRES IS GOING TO PROVIDE 2010 TO 20% OF OUR OVERALL REVENUES FOR THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT OR THE, FOR THE, THE, FOR THE SEWER TREATMENTS FACILITIES.

I MEAN, OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY IS 59 SOME ODD SQUARE MILES.

IT'S ABOUT 56,000 ACRES.

SO HOW ARE WE GONNA GET 10 TO 20% OF OUR REVENUE OUT OF 1900 ACRES, ESPECIALLY IF ONLY TWO OF THOSE SITES CAN ACTUALLY BE DEVELOPED TO ACCOUNT FOR 10 TO 20% OF OUR OVERALL REVENUES IF IT DOES, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THAT CAME FROM IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

UM, I THINK THE IDEA OF THE REGIONAL CONCEPT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.

IT DOES WORK.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, FOUR PROJECTS ALONG MEMORIAL ROAD.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROJECTS OVER ON PENNSYLVANIA.

WE'VE DONE UNILATERAL AGREEMENTS BACK AND FORTH WHERE, UH, WELLINGTON PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SEWER IN WELLINGTON PARK COMES TO EDMOND, OKLAHOMA CITY IS WHO THEY PAY THEIR PRICES TO.

THERE'S AN AGREEMENT THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN OKLAHOMA CITY.

IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE AGREEMENT.

WE TAKE SOME OF THEIRS, WE GIVE BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

IT HAPPENS OUT ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN TOO.

THOSE ARE GREAT AGREEMENTS AND THERE'S NICE, THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WHERE WE ARE GIVING AND WE ARE GETTING VIRTUALLY NOTHING IN RETURN BECAUSE THESE SITES WON'T BE DEVELOPED.

THE ONLY PART THAT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED IN THIS IS I 35.

THOSE TWO SITES RIGHT THERE THAT, THAT ARE ON I 35, AND THEY'LL GRAVITY FLOW.

IF THEY WERE GONNA PUT PLANTS OUT THERE, THEY WOULD'VE ALREADY PUT A PLANT OUT THERE.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

BY DOING THIS, TO ME, IT ALL WE'RE DOING IS SIMPLY INCENTIVIZING FINANCIALLY ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE IN OUR OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY TO TAKE OUR SALES TAX DOLLARS.

AND THAT THE WHOLE THING WE HAVE IN EVIDENCE ABOUT SALES TAX DOLLARS.

AND THERE'S A GREAT, THERE'D BE A GREAT INCENTIVE TO BE UP THERE BECAUSE THEY'D HAVE SEWER, THEY DON'T HAVE REGULATION CONTROLS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME BUILDING REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE.

THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALONG I 35.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT COST UP THERE IS GONNA BE EXTREMELY LOW.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE REGIONAL IDEAS.

IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S, THIS IS NOT IT.

IT'S A, IT'S A ONE-WAY STREET.

WE'RE ONLY, WE'RE ONLY TAKE, WE'RE ONLY BEING GIVEN TO, OR WE'RE ONLY BEING, WE ONLY GET THIS THE BAD END OF THE DEAL.

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DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM THEM.

SO MY OPINION IS THAT THIS IS NOT AN AGREEMENT WE SHOULD BE GOING INTO AND IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE VENTURING INTO.

I THINK IT'S GREAT IF WE WANNA LOOK AT TRYING TO INCREASE REVENUE, BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA INCREASE REVENUE BECAUSE THESE SITES, OTHER THAN THE TWO ON, ON RIGHT THERE ON I 35, THAT COULD, THAT COULD GRAVITY FLOW IN MY OPINION AS A DEVELOPER.

AND WITH 35 OR WHATEVER EXPERIENCE, AND I, I BROUGHT MY, MY DAD, MY DAD'S HERE TOO.

HE'S, HE'S REALLY OLD.

SO, UH, , HE'S BEEN AROUND HERE A LONG, LONG TIME TOO.

WE CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO PUT A LIFT STATION IN AND DO A FORCE MAINE FOR 160 ACRE PROJECT AND THAT TO LEAVE IT AT THIS.

WHY WOULD WE LET PEOPLE GO INTO LOGAN COUNTY AND PUT A FORCE MAINE AND DO A LIFT STATION FOR DEVELOPMENT TO FORCE IT INTO OUR SYSTEM WHEN WE WON'T EVEN ALLOW THAT IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, PLEASE COME DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

MY NAME'S JOSH MOORE, 1 0 1 2 4 CHIP WOOD FARMS ROAD.

THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS TO THIS AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE, UH, OTHER THAN JUST, JUST WASTEWATER AND WASTEWATER RATES.

UM, AND I HAVE SO MANY OPINIONS ABOUT THIS.

I DECIDED, I MADE UP MY MIND THAT I WOULD WRITE, SIT DOWN, WRITE SOMETHING DOWN, UH, ORGANIZE IT AND READ IT SO I DON'T GO OFF ON SO MANY OTHER TANGENTS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS AN EDMOND RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE EDMOND ALLIANCE 2050.

FOR THE 27 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN EDMOND, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LEARN ABOUT THE DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO ALLOW A CITY TO OPERATE.

I LEARNED HOW SALES TAX REVENUE IS YOUR LIFELINE IN OKLAHOMA AND THAT IT'S VITAL TO RECRUIT AND GROW YOUR OWN BUSINESSES TO SURVIVE.

I'VE ALSO WORKED IN CONSTRUCTION AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT TO UNDERSTAND HOW INFRASTRUCTURE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, SEWER AFFECTS THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE POSSIBLE ON ANY PIECE OF LAND.

IT'S EXTREMELY RARE TO SEE AN ACREAGE DEVELOPMENT WITH 300 TO 400 HOMES WITH A COMMERCIAL CORNER WHILE RELYING ON SEPTIC AND AEROBIC SYSTEMS. IT'S COMMON AND EXPECTED WITH ACCESS TO CITY SEWER.

I ALSO SERVED ON THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL FOR FOUR YEARS AND LEARN THE IMPORTANCE OF LONG RANGE PLANNING AND HOW EACH COUNCIL MEMBER BEFORE US DID THE BEST THEY COULD TO PLAN FOR EDMOND'S GROWTH WHILE BALANCING INFRASTRUCTURE AND QUALITY OF LIFE DEMANDS REGARDING THIS AGREEMENT YOU'RE CONSIDERING.

FIRST, I WANNA SAY THAT I DON'T BLAME EDMOND OR LOGAN COUNTY FOR LOOKING AT IT.

I CAN SEE WHY LOGAN COUNTY WOULD WANT EDMOND SEWER, BECAUSE THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING COSTS ARE MUCH EASIER THAN BUILDING PACKAGE PLANTS THAT THEY WOULD OWN.

AND WITH OPTIONS TO EXPAND EDMOND SEWER IN THESE AREAS, THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE TO GO BACK TO ODEQ OR ACOG FOR MORE APPROVALS IN RETURN.

I CAN SEE WHY OUR WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT WOULD WANT MORE RATE PAYERS TO HELP PAY FOR THEIR OWN CAPITAL PROJECTS.

I APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT.

HOWEVER, I'M AFRAID WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, THIS IS STILL NOT THE BEST AGREEMENT FOR EDMOND.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE THREE MAIN POINTS THAT WE BELIEVE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED FURTHER BEFORE TAKING THIS MASSIVE STEP.

NUMBER ONE, THIS AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL GROWTH.

I THINK WE'RE CALLING FOR 3000 TO 7,000 NEW CUSTOMERS.

AND I BELIEVE WHAT DEREK SAYS, UH, ABOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE OF DEVELOPING THESE PIECES OF LAND.

BUT IF IT WERE TO BE THAT THEY COULD ALL BE DEVELOPED OUT 3000 TO 7,000 NEW CUSTOMERS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE ROAD FROM EDMOND CITY LIMITS DESERVES MORE PLANNING FOR ITS OWN PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE PROTECTION, AND OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES LIKE ROADS, TRASH REMOVAL, AND PARKS AND RECREATION.

IF THIS BECOMES EDMOND'S RESPONSIBILITY INSTEAD, I DON'T SEE THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN THIS AGREEMENT TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

AND I'M NOT AWARE THAT THIS LEVEL OF PLANNING EXISTS IN UNINCORPORATED LOGAN COUNTY, WHERE I HAVEN'T SEEN A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING PLAN UP TO THIS POINT.

FOR TWO YEARS, WE HIRED CONSULTANTS AND PUT TOGETHER COMMITTEES TO DEVELOP THE EAST EDMOND 2050 PLAN.

FOR SEVERAL MORE YEARS, WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT STUDY.

WE HARDLY DO ANYTHING IN EDMOND WITHOUT A STUDY.

IT JUST SEEMS ODD THAT WE WOULD DO SOMETHING OF THIS SIGNIFICANCE WITHOUT CONSIDERING ALL OF

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THE MOVING PARTS TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS PERFECT, BUT THIS IS THE EDMOND WAY TO PLAN FOR GROWTH AND PUT PROACTIVE MEASURES IN PLACE, NOT REACTIVE.

NUMBER TWO, TO PLACE EDMOND BUILDERS AND BUSINESSES AT A DISADVANTAGE IS JUST NOT RIGHT TO ME.

WHEN AN EDMOND DEVELOPER ON ONE SIDE OF WATERLOO IS REQUIRED TO SPEND SIX TO NINE MONTHS GAINING THEIR APPROVALS, FOLLOW ALL OF EDMOND ZONING AND CONSTRUCTION CODES, MEET ALL BUILDING INSPECTIONS, AND PAY ALL EDMOND FEES, INCLUDING POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES, WHILE ANOTHER DEVELOPER OR CROSS WATERLOO WITH EDMUND SEWER DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THE SAME.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND BY FACILITATING COMMERCIAL GROWTH AND POSSIBLE COMMERCIAL GROWTH, WE DON'T KNOW IN THIS AREA WHY WE WOULD HELP CREATE COMPETITION FOR OUR OWN EDMOND BUSINESS OWNERS.

NOT ONLY DO OUR BUSINESSES RELY ON CUSTOMERS TO PAY THEIR BILLS, OUR CITY RELIES ON SALES TAX COLLECTIONS TO OPERATE.

IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET.

IF WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTING A FLAT BUDGET FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, THIS WOULD BE A TIME TO FOCUS ON EDMOND BUSINESSES AND HELP THEM THRIVE, NOT FACILITATE THE CREATION OF NEW BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS.

I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE EDMOND WAY IS TO SHOP LOCAL, SHOP EDMOND, WITH THIS MANY ROOFTOPS NEARBY, THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL GROWTH IN LOGAN COUNTY THAT WE ARE CREATING.

NUMBER THREE, THERE ARE OPTIONS TO MAKE THIS A BETTER AGREEMENT FOR EDMOND.

NOBODY'S FORCING YOU TO DO THIS.

WE DIDN'T CREATE THIS ISSUE, AND IT'S NOT OURS TO FIX.

RIGHT NOW.

THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED IN SOUTHERN LOGAN COUNTY IS FAR FROM THE SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH OUR SEWER AND THE PROVISIONS IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT ALLOW IT TO EXPAND LONG-TERM, THIS IS A BETTER DEAL FOR LOGAN COUNTY.

OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD'VE ALREADY MOVED FORWARD WITH THEIR OWN PLAN.

THERE'S A REASON WHY EDMOND ANNEXED WHAT IS NOW EAST EDMOND.

THERE'S A REASON WHY OKLAHOMA CITY ANNEXED 160 ACRES IN 2022 BEFORE THEY WOULD ALLOW A DEVELOPER TO TAP INTO THEIR SEWER.

THIS REASON IS TO PLAN FOR GROWTH ACCORDINGLY AND EXPECT QUALITY PROJECTS ALSO TO CAPTURE ALL POTENTIAL REVENUES, INCLUDING SALES TAX ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND COMMERCIAL GROWTH, AND TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR YOUR OWN BUSINESSES, MINE INCLUDED.

IN CLOSING, I WOULD SINCERELY ASK YOU TO EITHER VOTE NO ON THIS AGREEMENT OR PUT IT ON HOLD AND TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE THIS A BETTER DEAL FOR ALL OF EDMOND AND EDMOND'S FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IS ANYONE ELSE? JANET YOWL, THE DIRECTOR OF THE ADMIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT CHRIS SAID.

HE DID INVITE ME TO COME TO A PUBLIC WORKS MEETING.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN DECEMBER.

I DID THAT.

AND AT THAT POINT, FROM HEARING WHAT I KNEW, I DID VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE PRECEDENT THAT I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE SETTING.

UH, AND IN TURN, I HAD HIM COME TO MY DECEMBER EEDA BOARD MEETING.

UH, HE DID A PRESENTATION THERE.

IT WAS JUST ON OUR AGENDA FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THE EEDA TOOK NO ACTION ON THIS.

SO WE LISTENED AND WERE MAINLY CONCERNED, ESPECIALLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

I AM SPEAKING FROM, FOR ME, UM, ABOUT THE, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF I 35 AND WATERLOO, AND LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL SALES TAX THAT WE WOULD BE LOSING FROM, FROM RETAIL THAT WAS GOING THERE.

AND IN LISTENING TO WHAT CHRIS SAID, IT, IT APPEARED THAT WE WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO EDMOND, UM, TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT AT THAT SITE.

THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE WE WERE LOOKING AT.

UM, SO IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THAT WE TOOK NO ACTION AT THAT DECEMBER MEETING WE JUST CONSIDERED.

AND, AND REALLY I EXPLAINED THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, WHAT COULD HAPPEN AT THAT, AT THAT SITE AND NOT LOOKING OUT, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES WERE REALLY REPRESENTED AS RESIDENTIAL.

SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR MISSION TO PROMOTE RETAIL

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WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WANNA DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.

SO WE HAVE SHOPPING CHOICES FOR OUR CITIZENS.

JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT.

THANKS.

ANYONE ELSE? I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS.

UM, THIS IS A, AS PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ME SAY, A CITY THAT CONTROLS THIS WATER CONTROLS ITS DESTINY.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT WHEN, WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS IS THAT, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF EDMOND, I GO ACROSS THE STREET.

WHEN I GO OUTSIDE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT OKLAHOMA CITY TELLS ME? THANK YOU, EDMOND.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE COSTCOS, THEY HAVE CABELAS, THEY HAVE CHISHOLM CREEK, THEY HAVE THE ITEMS THAT ARE THE STORES THAT ARE BEING PUT AT MEMORIAL AND PENN AND THE MEMORIAL IN MAY.

MAJORITY OF THOSE SHOPPERS, A LOT OF THEM ARE EDMOND RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'RE RIGHT THERE ON OUR BORDER.

THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF, UH, REZONING FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT ARE OVER IN QUAIL SPRINGS AREA, THAT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE SO THAT THOSE CHILDREN THERE WOULD GO TO EDMOND SCHOOLS.

OKLAHOMA CITY DID THE SAME THING ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO MORE.

SO THAT WAS A STRATEGIC PLAN.

UH, EARLIER YOU HEARD ME ASK ABOUT THE WEST SIDE OF EDMOND BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

THE WEST SIDE, UH, HAS AN EDMOND ADDRESS, BUT IT HAS, IT'S ACTUALLY OKLAHOMA CITY.

SO WE HAVE FROM THE WEST TO THE SOUTHWEST.

IT'S NOT LEAKAGE.

IT'S A FULL THROTTLE FLOOD OF SALES TAX DOLLARS BECAUSE OF EDMOND AND WHO WE ARE NOW, DO WE BENEFIT FROM THEM STORES SITTING OVER THERE? ABSOLUTELY.

WILL WE BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING BEING ACROSS IN LOGAN COUNTY? ABSOLUTELY.

THESE ARE OUR BORDERS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT OR MAXIMIZE THEM TO THE MAXIMUM.

SO THAT'S THE WAY I I I LOOK AT IT, UM, IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANNA MOVE HERE, LIVE HERE, PLAY HERE, OR BE JUST CLOSE TO EDMOND.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTHWEST AND THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE LATELY, GO BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS.

'CAUSE IT'S GETTING, IT'S, IT'S CROWDED NOW.

IT THOSE BUSINESSES IN OKLAHOMA CITY ARE THERE BECAUSE OF EDMOND.

I'VE GOT A COMMENT, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN TIMES.

UH, AND BY THE WAY, MR. TURNER, I WOULDN'T LET HIM TALK TO YOU LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE NOT THAT OLD.

UH, I, UH, I JUST CAN'T SEE.

I I SAT THROUGH A HOUR AND 45 MINUTE, TWO HOUR BUDGET MEETING TODAY.

AND, UH, OUR SALES TAX REVENUE WAS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION, UH, ALMOST TO THE POINT OF FEAR ON WHERE WE ARE ON OUR SALES TAX COLLECTION.

AND IT IS TROUBLESOME, AND I CAN'T SEE INCENTIVIZING WATERLOO AND I 35 WITH EDMOND DOLLARS TO STEAL OUR TAX DOLLARS.

I MEAN, I MENTIONED TO THE CITY MANAGER THE OTHER DAY, IF YOU DRIVE SOUTH OUT OF WICHITA, KANSAS AND HEAD THIS DIRECTION, THE FIRST REALLY MAJOR INTERSECTION YOU'RE GONNA COME TO IS WATERLOO AND I 35, JUST A FEW MILES FROM COVELL AND I 35.

AND I WOULD RATHER THAT MONEY BE SPENT AT COVE AND I 35.

AND IF THE DEVELOPERS OF THAT PIECE OF LAND ARE LISTENING, BUILD SOMETHING OUT THERE.

UH, PLEASE.

BUT I, UH, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A HAND IN DEVELOPING THAT CORNER FOR RETAIL THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HARM US.

THAT'S MY VIEW.

THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE VOTING NO.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? UH, I'D MAKE A MOTION.

MR. MAYOR.

I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND FOR ITEM SIX B.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

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THAT ITEM'S FAILED.

WE NEED A, A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[7. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]

I'D MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ITEM EIGHT.

WE ARE NOW BACK IN THE GENERAL, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.

[8. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

UH, WE HAVE, UM, ITEM EIGHT, A, B, AND C FOR GENERAL CONSENT.

UH, ANY OF THOSE ITEMS NEED TO BE PULLED? WHAT'S THAT? ALL THE WAY DOWN.

I KNOW.

UM, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ITEM FROM EIGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO L FOR J, WHERE WE GO.

WOW.

THE WAY TO R TO R.

ANY OF THOSE ITEMS NEED TO BE PULLED FROM GENERAL CONSENT.

WHAT ABOUT, UH, MR. MAYOR, ONE ITEM DOES NEED A RESOLUTION NUMBER ON G.

OH, THAT'S G.

I'LL GET THAT AFTER WE SEE IF WE NEED TO PULL ANYTHING.

DO WE NEED TO PULL ANYTHING? COUNSEL, CAN I GET A RESOLUTION NUMBER? CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL? RESOLUTION NUMBER 15 DASH 24 15 DASH 24.

ANY MR. MAYOR? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT A THROUGH R.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? JUST CAST YOUR VOTE.

ITEMS PASSED.

NINE BS, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, UH, FOREST SERVICES FOR URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY INFLATION REDUCTION ACT GRANT FUNDING FOR ADMIN RELIEF.

NOW WE ARE ON ITEM NINE FOR THE GENERAL, UH, CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION ITEM.

UM, ITEM

[B. Consideration of Approval of Agreement with the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Forest Service for Urban and Community Forestry Inflation Reduction Act Grant Funding for Edmond ReLeaf. (Citywide)]

HEY, HOW WE DOING? WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION HERE.

AND EVENTS AND EXPANDED AWARENESS OF URBAN FORESTRY, UM, KNOWLEDGE OF TREE BENEFITS AND PROPER TREE PLANTING AND CARE PRACTICES.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, I'M LEE MARTIN, THE URBAN FORESTRY PURSUIT OF EDMOND.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN URBAN FORESTRY GRANT THAT WE RECENTLY RECEIVED.

UM, NOTIFICATION OF AWARD ABOUT, UM, THIS IS MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

THIS IS A $1 MILLION GRANT FROM THE USDA FOREST SERVICE.

UM, IT IS THROUGH FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED FOR URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY AND THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.

AND, UM, THIS GRANT WILL TAKE PLACE OVER A TERM OF FIVE YEARS.

UM, PART OF THE ACTIVITIES WILL INCLUDE HIRING A STAFF PERSON TO OVERSEE THE ACTIVITIES OF THE GRANT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE PLANTING AND DISTRIBUTION OF TREES WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.

UM, PROACTIVE TREE PRUNING SERVICES TO IMPROVE TREE STRUCTURE AND INCREASE RESILIENCE FROM STORM EVENTS, UM, FOR EXISTING TREES WITHIN THE AREA.

UM, EDUCATION ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF TREES AND PROPER TREE PLANTING AND CARE PRACTICES, UM, WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE SOME COLLABORATION WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOLS WITHIN THE AREA, UM, TO PROVIDE SOME EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES AND, UM, PARTNER ON PROJECTS, UM, ON THE SCHOOL GROUNDS.

UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS TO INCLUDE EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND, UM, PLANTING EVENTS, UM, EVENTS OF THAT NATURE.

THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS DO SPECIFY THAT, UM, THE FUNDS BE SPENT WITHIN DISADVANTAGED CENSUS BLOCKS.

UM, SO THE AREAS THAT YOU SEE IN BLUE ARE WHERE THE GRANT PROJECT ACTIVITIES WILL TAKE PLACE.

UM, ACCORDING TO THE CANOPY ASSESSMENT THAT TOOK PLACE THIS PAST YEAR, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THESE AREAS ARE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, BETWEEN A 15 AND 25% TREE CANOPY COVERAGE CURRENTLY.

AND MOST OF THEM SAW A DECLINE OF, UM, WITH SOME OF THE AREAS EXCEEDING 5% OF THEIR EXISTING CANOPY OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS.

UM, SO DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT WE'RE, UM, SEEING A LOT OF OLDER TREES THAT ARE, UM, MATURE AND STARTING TO DECLINE, UM, WHERE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE OUR TREE CANOPY BY PLANTING NEW TREES AS WELL AS, UM, CARING FOR THE EXISTING ONES AND HOPEFULLY INCREASING THEIR LIFESPANS.

UM, SOME PROJECTED OUTCOMES THAT WE SEE FOR THIS GRANT PROJECT INCLUDE, OF COURSE, OUR INCREASED TREE CANOPY COVERAGE.

UM, WE WOULD SEE IMPROVED CONDITION OF THE URBAN FOREST THROUGH THIS PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE, UM, ENHANCED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS

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UM, WE ARE EXCITED TO LOOK AT EXPANDING URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THROUGH THIS GRANT PROJECT.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THAT'S VERY EXCITING.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS MS. MARTIN? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU.

EVERY TIME I COME CHAT WITH YOU OR TALK TO YOU, I, I, I LEARNED SOMETHING AND, UH, I KNOW YOU'RE A HARD WORKER AND THIS IS PROOF OF THAT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

I ALSO LOVE THE LOCATION.

FANTASTIC .

AND, UH, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE CAN GET WITH SOME OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS AND MOBILE MEALS MIGHT BE A GOOD EXAMPLE.

OF FOLKS THAT WE KNOW, UM, MIGHT HAVE SOME MOBILITY OR OTHER CONCERNS.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES, IF THEY VOLUNTEER TO DO SO.

UH, GIVEN THAT IF THERE'S A STORM INCIDENT THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY IN SOME OF THOSE, UM, DWELLINGS, UH, THAT THEY MIGHT BE OVERTLY IMPACTED, UH, OR NOT BE ABLE TO UPKEEP SOME, SOME OF THOSE MORE HISTORIC TREES TOO AND, AND SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY NEEDED IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT SUGGESTION.

I'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

COUNSEL.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM NINE B? MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND .

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE'RE ALL EXCITED.

I'LL DO IT.

YOU GOT THAT CITY CLERK, TAKE YOUR PEN.

THAT ITEM'S APPROVED.

IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 16 DASH 24 16 DASH 24, SUPPORTING THE GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ODOT TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM.

[C. Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. ___ Supporting the Grant Application to the Oklahoma Department of Transportation (ODOT)'s Transportation Alternatives Program (TAP) for the Edmond Road Pedestrian Bridge Design Project. (Ward 1)]

TAP FOR THE EDMOND MONROE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE DESIGN PROJECT.

HI THERE.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M CHRISTIE BATTERSON.

I'M THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY.

WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS OUR RESOLUTION FOR OUR OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM OR TAP FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER EDMUND ROAD.

UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

IT'S FAIRLY FUNDED PROGRAM DESIGNED FOR ALTERNATIVE ADVANCED ALTERNATIVE NON-MOTORIZED METHODS OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE PROPOSED, UH, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

IT'S A FEASIBILITY AND DESIGN ONLY.

IT'S NO CONSTRUCTION.

UM, BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS WOULD BE, ONCE WE HAVE THIS DESIGN AND THE STUDY DONE, IT WOULD BE SHOVEL READY SO THAT WE COULD APPLY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL OR OTHER MULTIMODAL FUNDINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

UM, PROJECT IS LOCATED ACROSS EDMOND ROAD OR SECOND STREET, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH, BNSF RAILWAY AND BROADWAY, US HIGHWAY 77.

I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

IT ALSO CONNECTS THE CITY LINK TRANSFER CENTER.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE, UM, MOVED THE TRANSFER CENTER FROM THE FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE TO JUST SOUTH OF SECOND STREET, UM, JUST OFF OF THIRD STREET.

UM, WE NOW NEED A SAFE WAY, UM, TO GET PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AS WELL AS GET PEOPLE DOWN INTO THE STEVENSON PARK AREA.

ANOTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE, THAT IS POTENTIALLY HAPPENING IN THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR AREA.

UM, THIS ALSO IMPROVES, UM, IT CONNECTS DOWNTOWN, LIKE I SAID, DOWNTOWN EDMOND, AND THAT IS GETTING READY TO GO UNDER, UM, SOME A DA IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.

AND THIS JUST, IT CONTINUES TO GROW OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

UM, EARLIER YOU APPROVED ANOTHER, UH, TAP GRANT FOR CONNECTING.

UM, SOME OF OUR BIKE PATHWAYS THAT WE HAVE, PROJECT TOTAL IS EXPECTED TO BE $404,000.

UM, OUR LOCAL MATCH IS 80,000, A LITTLE OVER $80,000.

ONE GOOD THING ABOUT O BEING A ODOT TAP GRANT IS WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE FULL MONEY UP FRONT AND BE REIMBURSED.

WE ONLY PUT UP OUR PORTION, SO WE'LL BE PUTTING UP $80,840,000 IF APPROVED.

UM, AND THIS PEDESTRIAN B***H HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR, OH, A COUPLE OF DECADES NOW.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY WILL SHOW, IS THAT IT WOULD BE TO THE EAST OF THE, UM, RAILWAY BECAUSE OF SOME, UM, HEIGHT THAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA.

BUT AGAIN, THE STUDY WILL SHOW WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE AND THAT WOULD, UM, CONNECT IT DOWN INTO THE TRANSPORTATION AREA THERE WHERE CITYLINK IS AND POTENTIAL, UM, RTA PLATFORMS FOR A RAIL IN THE FUTURE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THIS HAS GONE THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ADVISORY BOARD, EDMUND BICYCLE COMMITTEE, AND THE EDMUND MOBILE, UM, MOBILITY COMMITTEE WHERE THEY ALL APPROVED FOR RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF? THANK YOU.

I KNOW A LOT OF RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY ASK FOR IT, PARTICULARLY IN WARD ONE.

THAT IS A PINCH POINT.

AND WE HAVE SOME AWESOME DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED RIGHT AROUND THERE ACROSS THE STREET.

YOU CAN GO HOPEFULLY TO SPROUTS AND THEN GO TO STEVENSON PARK

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AND PLAY AND RECREATE IN THAT WHOLE NEW AREA AND THEN HOPEFULLY, EVENTUALLY GET OVER TO UCO AND THEN COME BACK AND YOU, I COULD SEE A DAY WHERE YOU COULD DO A LOOP BETWEEN ALL THOSE AMENITIES AND GETTING A SAFE WAY TO CROSS RIGHT THERE WHERE WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE IS GONNA BE SUPER IMPORTANT.

SO APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM NINE C? MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND.

MOTION.

AND TRUE.

NINE D, CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS TO ACCEPT $500,000 IN EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANT ERA TWO FROM THE OKLAHOMA COUNTY HOME FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR HOPE CENTER OF EDMOND.

UH, ITEM

[D. Emergency Rental Assistance:]

AGAIN, I'M CHRISTY BATTERSON.

UM, I'M HERE.

THIS IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO PARTNER WITH THE HOPE CENTER.

UM, I'VE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT IT'S OUR NONPROFITS THAT HELP, UM, SPREAD SERVICES THAT WE'RE UNABLE TO DO.

UM, I WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME, UM, AND WAS ASKED BY OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHAT I NEEDED AND I SAID, I NEED HOUSING ASSISTANCE.

UM, AND THEN I GOT AN EMAIL THE NEXT DAY.

UM, SO THIS WILL IS WITH THE OKLAHOMA COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY.

UM, THIS IS, UM, EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

UH, OKLAHOMA COUNTY RECEIVED A TOLL ALLOCATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO USE FOR RESIDENTIAL RENTERS, HOUSING STABILITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EVICTION ASSISTANCE, AND OTHER QUALIFIED IN PROGRAMS TO INDIVIDUALS DUE TO THE COVID-19.

UM, PRETTY MUCH WE CAN SAY NOW THAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN AFFECTED BY COVID-19 IN SOME WAY FASHION OR ANOTHER.

UM, THEY'RE CONTACTING WITH US BECAUSE WE WERE THE ONLY ONES IN THE STATE THAT SPEND ALL OUR CARES MONEY.

UM, AND IN ADDITION, AND I JUST GOT FINISHED SPENDING $2 MILLION IN CARES MONEY FROM A COMA COMMERCE.

UM, WE PICKED HOPE CENTER, UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TO MANAGE OUR PROGRAM AS THEY HAVE THE BUSINESS MODEL ALREADY SET UP.

AND THEY'VE HAD, UH, WIDE SUCCESS IN THIS.

THE HOPE CENTER OF EDMOND WILL BE ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS PROVI BY PROVIDING A ONE TIME IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD, EMERGENCY FUNDS TO RENTERS ONLY UP TO THREE MONTHS WORTH OF, OF ASSISTANCE IN ARREARS.

UM, THEY DO HAVE TO BE INCOME QUALIFIED, SO THEY HAVE TO MEET THE INCOME THRESHOLD OF 80% OR BELOW AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

THEY HAVE HAD TO HAVE RECEIVED AN EVICTION NOTICE OR RECEIVED A PAST DUE RENTAL NOTICE.

UM, I'VE PUT THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME LIMITS UP HERE.

THOSE JUST RECENTLY CHANGED, MAY 1ST.

AS YOU CAN SEE, A FAMILY OF FOUR WOULD NEED TO MAKE BELOW 71,600 IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM.

UM, AGAIN, HOPE CENTER HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN PARTNERING WITH THIS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AS WE ADMINISTERED AND GOT OUT CARES FUNDING RAPIDLY, UM, THEY'VE SPENT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UM, AND THE NEED IS STILL THERE.

THEY DO RECEIVE CDBG FUNDING, BUT THEY RECEIVE A SMALL AMOUNT, UM, AROUND $40,000.

THEY'RE ONLY ABLE TO GIVE LIKE TWO TO $300 PER PERSON OR PER HOUSEHOLD ONE TIME.

UM, THIS IS GONNA ENABLE THEM FOR THE NEXT 18 MONTHS TO PROVIDE THAT THREE MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE IN A ONE YEAR TIME PERIOD.

UM, THE REASON WHY, UM, WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE CONTRACT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT REQUIRES FEDERAL REPORTING.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT TO DO WITH THAT.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE USED TO THAT, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING THROUGH US.

I ALSO HAVE CHRIS BERRY HERE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOPE CENTER.

SHE'S SAT HERE PATIENTLY WAITING, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THIS FUNDING HAS TO BE SPENT BY SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, 2025 MM-HMM, .

AND ACTUALLY THIS PRESENTATION COVERED, UH, NINE D ONE AND TWO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SO THE TOTAL HALF A MILLION OR A MILLION? HALF A MILLION.

HALF A MILLION, SO RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT TIME? I DON'T THAT'S AWESOME.

IS THAT COMMISSIONER DAVIDSON? UH, YES.

FOR WELL, WELL, I'LL SEND THE THANK YOU NOTE, BUT YEAH.

WILL ALLOW US TO PAY AT LEAST A THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, FOR A MONTH'S RENT, WHICH WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

DO THEY, AS FAR AS THE HOPE CENTER, UM, HOW DO WE, UM, GET THE WORD OUT? IS THERE LIKE A LITTLE COMMUNICATION THAT YOU'LL SHARE THAT WE CAN HELP WITH CERTAIN FOLKS THAT WE KNOW? DO YOU HAVE A WAITING LIST? LIKE DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'LL BE EXHAUSTED IMMEDIATELY OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP LOVE? YOU GET THE WORD OUT TO FOLKS THAT WE KNOW THAT FROM CHURCHES AND OTHER NONPROFITS THAT COULD SEND PEOPLE YOUR WAY.

FORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADVERTISE IT.

I, I THINK AS SOON AS WE HAVE SUCH A STEADY, UH, FLOW OF CLIENTS WHO REQUEST RENTAL ASSISTANCE, THAT THIS, AND WE HAVE BEEN DOWN TO $250, IS JUST BECAUSE OF OUR FUNDING.

THIS

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AND I THINK AS SOON AS, UM, OUR, OUR CLIENTS HEAR THAT, ENSURE THAT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, I DON'T THINK WE'LL NEED ANY ADDITIONAL ADVERTISING.

IT'LL BE FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY YES.

BUT, BUT I THINK IT'LL TAKE CARE OF, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, $250 DOESN'T EVEN TOUCH A MONTH'S WORTH OF RENT.

SO FOR OUR, UH, CLIENTS WHO ARE BEHIND AND, UH, FACING EVICTION, THIS WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

AND I'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT.

I'LL BE GETTING THE WORD OUT TO SOME OF OUR OTHER NON-PROFITS, ESPECIALLY OUR IN-HOUSE POPULATION AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, ET CETERA, THAT MAY NEED ASSISTANCE.

I GET CALLS ALMOST DAILY ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE, SO THANK YOU.

YEAH, I WAS THINKING IN PARTICULAR, YOU SEE THOSE INCOME LIMITS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL, BUT THEN I THINK OF OUR TEACHERS WHO ARE GONNA BE TRYING TO STRETCH SOME DOLLARS, MANY OF WHO, IF THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY INCOME, ARE TAKING ON A SECOND JOB OR ROLE OVER THE SUMMER.

AND I KNOW I SEE SOME THINGS ADVERTISED OCCASIONALLY ON TEACHER GROUPS OF NEEDING ASSISTANCE FOR A MOM OR DAD WHO NEEDS RENTAL.

AND SO I WAS JUST KIND OF THINKING OF THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB OF TAKING CARE OF OUR KIDDOS.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY'VE GOT A BUMP BUMP IN THE ROAD, THAT WE CAN POINT 'EM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH SOME OF THESE DOLLARS.

AND WE CAN PUT A NOTICE THAT ON OUR, ON THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE UNDER RESOURCES OF THE HOPE CENTERS CONTACT INFORMATION.

SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S REALLY, IT'LL GONNA GO QUICK.

COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM NINE, D ONE AND TWO? MOTION TO APPROVE.

YOUR MOTION.

ITEM PASS.

THE DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF COLINE GROUP LLC REPORT ON POSSIBLE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND SALE TAX ELECTIONS.

ITEM E,

[E. Discussion and Presentation of a COAlign Group LLC Report on Possible General Obligation Bond and Sales Tax Elections.]

THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

AS, AS MS. CONNELL'S WALKING UP, I WANNA REMIND ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, COUNSEL TOOK ACTION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH COAL LINE TO LOOK AT, UH, OR INVESTIGATE A THREE PHASE APPROACH TO INVESTIGATING SALES TAX AND POSSIBLY A GEO BOND.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST REPORT AFTER THE FIRST PHASE ONE, WHICH IS TO MEET WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND DO SOME INITIAL EVALUATIONS.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THAT TO YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS EVENING.

I'M KATHY O'CONNOR WITH THE CO-ALIGN GROUP, AND AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, UM, WE HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING, UM, QUITE A FEW STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS OVER THE LAST SIX WEEKS.

UM, PROBABLY HAVE INTERVIEWED OVER 20 PEOPLE AT THIS POINT.

UM, AND, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, WHAT YOU ASKED ME TO LOOK AT WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY ISSUING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO HELP FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS.

AND, AND LOOKING AT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ONE PENNY, UH, TEMPORARY SALES TAX THAT YOU HAVE FOR OPERATIONS THAT EXPIRES IN 2027 AND THE HALF PENNY THAT YOU HAVE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

IT ALSO EXPIRES IN 2027.

SO, UM, WHEN WE TALKED WITH PEOPLE, WE TRIED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN THAT CONTEXT AND, AND, UM, TRY TO GET THEIR REACTIONS TO HOW TO, HOW TO, UH, TIME ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES AND, UH, FIND A WAY TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME MORE DIVERSITY AND FUNDING FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITY.

UM, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN A GROUP IN EDMOND THAT HAS DONE SOME POLLING AROUND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

THE ALLIANCE 2050 GROUP HAS, HAS LOOKED AT IT.

UM, ONE THING FROM THAT POLLING THAT WE KNOW IS THAT, UM, THE, THE ISSUE OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAFFIC ISSUES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE IN EDMOND AND POLLED, UM, VERY WELL.

UM, AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO TRY TO FIX THOSE KINDS OF PROBLEMS, UM, FROM THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE CONDUCTED, THERE WERE, THERE WERE SEVERAL THEMES THAT EMERGED AFTER GIVING PEOPLE SOME BACKGROUND AND TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT IT.

ONE OF THOSE WAS THAT THERE, THERE IS, I WOULD SAY LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSENSUS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE ONE PENNY FOR OPERATIONS AND MAKING IT PERMANENT THAT THIS IDEA OF USING A TEMPORARY SALES TAX TO FUND ONGOING OPERATIONS IS REALLY JUST NOT, FRANKLY, VERY GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

UM, AND CREATES A RISK FOR THE CITY THAT REALLY, UM, YOU COULD DO WITHOUT.

SO, UM, I THINK SINCE THAT WOULD NOT BE A TAX INCREASE, I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL SHOULD CONSIDER PUTTING ON THE BALLOT AND KIND OF GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF EVEN, UM, WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE 2027 EXPIRATION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

THE OTHER, OBVIOUSLY,

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I WOULD SAY THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE TALKED TO, I, THE, THE BROAD MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO WERE IN SUPPORT OF SOME KIND OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, INCLUDING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, UH, FOR ESPECIALLY STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, FUNDING TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC CONGESTION, DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS, AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT EDMOND IS EXPERIENCING BECAUSE OF GROWTH.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, THAT THEY SAW THE BOND, UH, ISSUE AND THE USE OF AVALOR TAXES AS KIND OF THEIR DOMAIN AND NOT THE CITIES.

UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, THEY, UH, THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO POSSIBLY TALK WITH THEM SOME MORE AND TRY TO AT LEAST GET THEM TO BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IDEA OF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE, THAT WERE REPORT GOES ON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT STREET AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP IS PROBABLY THE NEED TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS AND TRANSPARENCY AROUND SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

SO I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY CREATED, BUT HAVEN'T APPOINTED THE MEMBERS TO YET IS A GOOD WAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

ALSO, THE REQUIREMENT BY STATE LAW THAT, UM, I THINK IN MY REPORT I SAID 85% OF THE PROJECTS BE LISTED.

IT'S ACTUALLY 75%.

THE 85% RULE IS AN IRS REGULATION THAT I, I KIND OF GOT CONFUSED IN MY HEAD, BUT, UM, 75% OF THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE SPECIFICALLY LISTED, UM, AND, AND YOU VOTE ON THEM BY PROJECT TYPE.

SO THAT REALLY HELPS, I THINK, WITH PEOPLE'S, UH, FEELINGS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND, UH, TRANSPARENCY THAT THEY'LL KNOW WHICH PROJECTS THEY'RE VOTING FOR.

THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFICALLY LISTED BY ADDRESS.

UM, THERE'S JUST LOTS OF REQUIREMENTS AROUND, UM, HOW THOSE BOND PROPOSITIONS ARE WORDED.

SO I DO THINK THAT THAT THE, THE USE OF THAT COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS TRANSPARENCY ISSUE.

UM, SOME OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT, UM, YOU CONSIDER CALLING AN ELECTION TO MAKE THE ONE PENNY SALES TAX PERMANENT IN EITHER AUGUST OF THIS YEAR OR NOVEMBER.

UM, MY OVERALL RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU CALL AN ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER OF 2024 FOR BOTH THE ONE PENNY SALES TAX FOR OPERATIONS, AND A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ELECTION.

UM, AND, AND THERE WERE SOME REASONS BEHIND THAT.

I THINK, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT 2024, WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION, YOU'RE GONNA GET A BROADER, UM, CROSS SECTION OF VOTERS THAT ARE COMING TO THE, TO THE BALLOT BOX.

OBVIOUSLY THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE VERY HIGH TURNOUT, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU TEND TO GET A BROADER SET OF PERSPECTIVES ON DIFFERENT ISSUES.

OBVIOUSLY, SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO RUN A CAMPAIGN.

THAT CAMPAIGN IS GONNA HAVE TO BE WELL COMMUNICATED AND TRY TO, UH, REALLY APPEAL TO EDMOND AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN EDMOND'S DESIRES TO MAKE THIS A A REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IS A, A THEME THAT, THAT, THAT WAS VERY EVIDENT IN THE POLLING THAT THE OTHER GROUP HAD DONE, THAT PEOPLE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT EDMOND AND EDMOND AS A COMMUNITY.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

UM, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY IN 2025 THAT THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY WILL ALSO HAVE A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND INITIATIVE.

UM, AS IT CAME UP KIND OF IN THE MEETING TODAY, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN TELL IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT YOUR TRASH CANS, BUT PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR GO BOND AUTHORIZATION WILL PROBABLY BE WELL OVER, WILL PROBABLY BE A BILLION DOLLARS THIS TIME.

SO TRYING TO MAYBE GET SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.

AND WHILE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE CONCERNS AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY MENTIONED WAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SPACE AND TIME BETWEEN THEIR BOND ELECTION AND ANY GEO BOND ELECTION THE CITY MIGHT DO.

SO IF, IF WE CAN GET IT DONE IN 2024, IT PUTS, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR BETWEEN THEIR NEXT, UM, SCHOOL BOND ELECTION.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE EVEN IN MY SCOPE OF WORK AND THAT ARE TALKED ABOUT AS NEXT STEPS IS THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT CONVENING THE GROUP, THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE, APPOINTING THOSE MEMBERS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, CONDUCTING

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SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THAT GROUP.

OBVIOUSLY THEIR JOB IS TO, TO PICK PROJECTS AND TO HELP IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SELECTED.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WORKING WITH EITHER CITY PIO STAFF OR OUTSIDE COMMUNICATIONS FIRM ON THE CITY'S PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN.

UM, OBVIOUSLY ALONG WITH WHOEVER CONDUCTS A CAMPAIGN OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS UNDERTAKEN, BUT THE CITY CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND ABOUT HOW GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WORK.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN FAIRLY QUICKLY, UM, AND TO GET ORGANIZED AROUND.

SO, UM, I THINK I HAVE COVERED EVERYTHING IN MY REPORT.

UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MY SCOPE OF WORK HAS THE NEXT STEPS THAT TALK ABOUT FIGURING OUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOND ISSUE AND THE SIZING OF THE BOND ISSUE AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN NEXT AS WE CONVENE THAT CITIZENS GROUP AND, AND TRY TO GET A, A HANDLE ON, ON WHAT, WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD.

SO I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, UM, WELL, THANK YOU FOR RIGHT NOW FOR ALL THE PRELIMINARY LEG WORK YOU'VE DONE, UH, COME UP WITH THIS REPORT, UM, STILL A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING TO DO GO FORWARD.

LIKE WHO WOULD EVEN, UM, YEAH, WE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE THE COMMITTEE COME TOGETHER, BUT WHO WOULD BE ACTUALLY RUN THAT CAMPAIGN FOR US AND, AND ALL THAT DISCUSSION AND ALL THAT.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

COUNSEL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THIS WAS JUST SAVED, UM, A PRESENTATION OF, OF FOR US TO DISCUSS IN, IN, IN HERE, BUT, UH, THERE'S NO OFFICIAL ACTION FROM US TODAY, BUT IT'S, UH, ANY FEEDBACK TO BE TAKEN.

I MEAN, I JUST FEEL VERY THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT PEOPLE MOVE TO EDMOND FOR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION, RECREATION, AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, TODAY WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS OUR MEETING STARTED TO, UM, RECOGNIZE THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS DO, BOTH OUR POLICE AND FIRE.

AND, UM, THAT'S BECAUSE CITIZENS HAVE AGREED, UH, TO DEDICATED, UH, FUNDING SOURCES.

SO REGARDLESS OF THE ECONOMIC WINS LIKE WE SAW PRESENTED TODAY AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR BUDGET HEARING, WE KNOW THAT POLICE AND FIRE WILL CONTINUE TO BE, UM, WELL SUPPLIED, WELL-TRAINED AND BE ABLE TO RESPOND, UH, APPROPRIATELY.

UM, AS WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT COMES UP ON SURVEYS, TRANSPORTATION, UM, UH, AND RECREATION AND OTHER THINGS THAT OUR CITIZENS WE KNOW WANT TO BE INVESTED IN.

UM, I THINK PUTTING THE DIFFERENT LEVERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON, ON THE TABLE AND THEN ASKING WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO DO? SO IF YOU HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAKE ARCADIA MASTER PLAN, WHICH PEOPLE LOVE TO RECREATE, IT'S GREAT.

IT'S GOT THREE PHASES.

THERE'S CERTAIN BUCKETS THAT CAN BE USED, OTHER BUCKETS CAN'T BE, AND IT'S HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CITIZENS ABOUT WHAT TYPE THAT YOU WANT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, I THOUGHT IT WAS THERE.

I WAS JUST LOOKING ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHERE IT HAS MY BIO AND IT SAYS, GOAL GIVE MOND VOTERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE UP OR DOWN ON DEDICATED FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE BEST TRANSPORTATION, EDUCATION, RECREATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND PUBLIC SAVES FOR ITS RESIDENTS.

AND I LOVE THAT WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS NOW, BUT I THINK WE KNOW THAT OUR, OUR CITIZENS ARE EAGER TO, UH, SEE HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

YEAH, AND I, YOU KNOW, YOU, I'M NOT TELLING YOU ALL ANYTHING YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW, BUT THE, THE ONE PENNY TAX WHERE TWO THIRDS OF IT IS GOING TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT, THEY BECOME, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOCUSED ON THE NEED TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVE THAT AT RISK ALONG WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

GOOD.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS IS WE'LL COME BACK, UH, IN, ON MAY 28TH TO FORMALLY ORGANIZE THE STRUCTURE FOR THE GEO BOND COMMITTEE CITIZENS COMMITTEE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, UH, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER GETS TO SELECT ON THAT AND THAT PROCESS.

SO, UH, AND THEN IT'LL BE OPEN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME FOR APPLICATION THAT PROCESS.

SO THAT'S, I'LL CALL IT THE NEXT FORMAL MM-HMM.

ACTION ITEM WILL COME TO COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

YEP.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

ITEM IS 10, A CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH FLINTCO LLC FOR

NOW WE'RE AT ITEM 10, WHICH IS OUR CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. FIRST

[A. Consideration of Approval of a Contract Amendment with Flintco LLC (Construction Manager) for the Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) 2 for the Main Street Improvements Project to Include Concrete and Striping and Resolution No. ___ Appointing Purchasing Agent; $1,599,398.00. (Ward 1)]

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THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

TWO FOR THE MAIN STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO INCLUDE CONCRETE AND STRIPING.

AND RESOLUTION NUMBER 17 DASH 24 17 DASH 24 APPOINTING PURCHASING AGENT FOR $1,599,398.

PERFECT.

WE'LL BE REALLY QUICK ON THIS ONE.

UM, AS A REMINDER, UM, WE'VE PULLED OUT THE CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION OF MAIN STREET FROM THE, UM, OVERALL CITY CENTER PACKAGE.

UM, AND WE'RE FUNDING IT THROUGH THE 2000 CIP FUND FOR RESURFACING.

UM, THIS BID WAS AWARDED IN TWO DIFFERENT PARTS.

THE FIRST PART YOU GUYS DID ON, UM, APRIL 8TH, UM, AS A REMINDER THAT WAS FOR DEMOLITION AND UTILITIES, AND THAT AMOUNT WAS FOR, UM, FIVE, ABOUT $530,000.

THIS PACKAGE IS STRICTLY FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF MAIN STREET BETWEEN BROADWAY AND BOULEVARD.

UM, IT'S GONNA INCLUDE DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANES INTO THE PARKING GARAGE AND DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANES ONTO BOULEVARD TO ASSIST IN TRAFFIC FLOW ONCE WE ALL START, UM, HOUSING THESE BUILDINGS.

UM, IT'S ALSO GOT A REPAVED LITTLER BETWEEN FIRST STREET AND MAINE, UM, AFTER CONSTRUCTION.

SO, UM, IT'LL ALL LOOK, UM, COHESIVE WHEN WE OPEN.

UM, THE CONSTRUCTION IS ALSO GOING TO BE PHASED TO ACCOMMODATE THE SCHOOL FROM LITTLER TO B LITTLER TO BOULEVARD.

SORRY, I HAD TO GET MY BEARINGS.

UM, SO THEY'LL RECONSTRUCT THAT PORTION OF MAIN STREET WHILE SCHOOL IS OUT AND THEN THEY'LL PHASE IT DOWN, UM, ONCE HEARD ON HEARD IS COMPLETE AND THEY WILL WORK FROM THE ALLEYWAY UP TO LITTLER.

UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, EVEN DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE GONNA KEEP EVERYTHING OPEN FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND WE WORK WITH THEM REGULARLY ON THAT.

SO THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THIS IS JUST OVER $2.1 MILLION.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

THE, I KNOW IN TALKING TO DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN FOLKS, YOU WANT, DO YOU WANNA TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.

'CAUSE OPENING IT UP IN DIFFERENT EVENTS AND OH, YOU WANT ME TO, WE'VE CALLED YOU.

DO YOU WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT THIS OR ANY OTHER, UH, EFFORT WILL NOT RESULT IN, UH, US GOING TO FOUR TO TWO LANES ANYWHERE DOWNTOWN, OF COURSE, ? YES, I CAN SAY THAT.

SO THIS PROJECT ITSELF, THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX PROJECT WILL NOT TOUCH BROADWAY.

UM, THIS RECONSTRUCTION IS SIMPLY FOR MAINE.

UM, AND IT'S GONNA GO FROM THE ALLEY JUST TO, UM, THE EAST OF BROADWAY.

SO IT'S NOT EVEN GONNA GO ALL THE WAY TO BROADWAY.

WE ARE ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING WITH URBAN FORESTRY, UM, IN, IN RYAN OCHSNER ON A STREET SCAPE PROJECT, UM, WHERE WE ARE IDENTIFYING, UM, STREET SCAPE STANDARDS FOR THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR.

UM, THAT IS JUST SIMPLY FOR WHEN WE HAVE BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE CITY CENTER OR, UM, ANY NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE COMING INTO DOWNTOWN, THAT STREET SCAPE IS GOING TO LOOK THE SAME.

THE STANDARD WILL SET WHAT EVERY STREET SCAPE SHOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, IN THE, IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE CAN HAVE A STANDARDIZED IDEA OF WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.

IT IS NOT AT ALL TO, UM, DISCUSS OR CONTEMPLATE TAKING BROADWAY DOWN FROM FOUR TO TWO LANES, THIS OR ANY PROJECT.

WE, THERE ARE NO PROJECTS SCHEDULED AT ALL FOR THAT ONE, FOR THAT I GOT TAKEN TO THE WOODSHED THE OTHER DAY ABOUT BROADWAY CLOSING THE TWO LANES.

YEAH, THERE'S SOME MISCOMMUNICATION OUT THERE.

YEAH, AND I, I APOLOGIZE SIR.

AND THEY HAD SOME DOCUMENTS THAT THERE HAD BEEN MEETINGS AND THERE WERE GONNA BE THINGS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL IN JUNE BASED ON WHAT THEY HAD IN WACO, TEXAS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WAS A CITY OF EDMOND DOCUMENT THAT THEY SHARED WITH US, AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT.

BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

NO, NO, SIR.

IT HAS NOTHING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOCUMENT YOU'LL HAVE AS SOON AS WE ADJOURN.

I HOPE.

AND YOU HAD MENTIONED 2.1, THAT'S FOR THE PRIOR DEMOLITION PLUS THIS? YES.

'CAUSE THIS IS 1.6.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

YEAH, VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING PART.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? SEEING NONE.

COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM 10? A MOVE TO APPROVE THERE A MOTION? I'LL SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ITEMS PASSED.

B IS A PRESENTATION DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OF THE PELICAN BAY AQUATIC CENTER ASSESSMENT PERFORMED BY GH TWO ARCHITECTS.

NINE ITEM 10

[B. Presentation, Discussion, and Consideration of the Pelican Bay Aquatic Center Assessment Performed by GH2 Architects. (Ward 1)]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, BRAD RAINEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

I HAVE SARAH ANDREWS HERE

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WITH ME FROM GH TWO ARCHITECTS THAT WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION AND A REPORT ON THE ASSESSMENT.

JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A FEW COMMENTS BEFORE, UM, OVER THE WINTER, WE'VE BEEN PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING SWIM SEASON, WHICH HAS INCLUDED, UM, REPAIRS TO THE PLUMBING AT PELICAN BAY TO, TO HELP WITH REDUCE WATER LOSS.

UM, WE'VE RESURFACED THE SLIDES TO MAKE THEM SAFE AND FUN FOR THE KIDS, AND WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW AND, AND WORKING ON BATHROOMS AND, UM, THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES TO, TO MAKE IT A GOOD SEASON.

SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO FILL THE POOL AND BE READY TO, TO OPERATE.

UM, THIS, THIS EVENING, THIS PRESENTATION AND INFORMATION.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM YOU AND CONFIRMATION FROM THE COUNCIL.

UM, ULTIMATELY SHE'LL PRESENT A SOLUTION, A, A, A SINGLE SOLUTION, WHICH IS A MAJOR RENOVATION, AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS TO KIND OF DELIVER THAT RENOVATION THAT, THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER.

UM, THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE HAVE STAFF A SIMILAR RECOMMENDATION, AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT STEP OF BRINGING A DESIGN AGREEMENT TO YOU, WHICH WE HOPE TO BRING AT THE NEXT MEETING.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SARAH AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT.

WELCOME, SARAH.

HELLO, I'M SARAH ANDREWS WITH JH TWO ARCHITECTS.

UM, THIS PRESENTATION IS, UM, A SUMMARY OF AN ASSESSMENT THAT WAS ISSUED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

SO, UM, THERE'S MORE DETAILS IN THAT ASSESSMENT, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A QUICK SUMMARY SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE INCLUDED.

UM, IN THE, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, WE MET WITH PARK CITY REPRESENTATIVES AND THE OPERATOR FOR PELICAN BAY, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE POOL FACILITY IS CURRENTLY USED, THE SIZE, THE, UM, OPERATIONS, THE FEATURES THAT ARE INCLUDED, AND IF IT MEETS THE CURRENT NEEDS, UM, THE OPERATOR AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING DETERMINED THAT THE EXISTING SIZE AND EVERYTHING MEETS THE NEEDS.

IT'S JUST WE NEED TO FIX THE ISSUES THAT ARE ONGOING.

SO, UM, FROM THAT MEETING, WE DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD, UM, GO THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT RENOVATION OPTIONS AND LOOK AT WHAT DIFFERENT COSTS AND RENOVATION OPTIONS COULD BE FOR THE POOL.

SO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT YOU SEE, UM, THERE'S CRACKING AND BREAKING IN THE CONCRETE.

UM, THE EXISTING PUMPS ARE OBSOLETE, AND SO IF THEY DO BREAK, UM, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO BUY PARTS TO REPAIR THEM.

UM, THE PLAY STRUCTURE IS RUSTING.

UM, THERE'S PAINT FAILURE.

THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER YOU CAN SEE THAT IS A PHOTO FROM INSIDE THE GUTTER.

UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF, THERE'S A LINE THAT RUNS DOWN, THAT'S THE POOL DECK THAT'S SITTING ON TOP OF THE GUTTER, WHICH IS CREATING SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES.

SO WHEN THE DECK, THE POOL DECK MOVE MOVES DIFFERENTLY THAN THE GUTTER, IT CAN CREATE STRESS AND CRACKS IN THAT POOL.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE SEEING SOME ISSUES ALONG WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.

UM, THERE'S ALSO THE, THE POOL LIGHTS HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR LIFE.

UM, THERE WAS A LEAK DETECT THAT WAS DONE AND IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE POOL INLETS, UM, OR SOURCES OF THE LEAKS AS WELL.

UM, LOOKING AT THE NEXT SLIDE, THE COATING INSIDE THE POOL.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM FOUR IMAGES, A LOT OF THE COLOR IS, UM, IS FADING.

UH, THERE'S TILE THAT'S MISSING, THERE'S PAINT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.

SO, UM, AGAIN, JUST A BROAD OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE REPAIRS THAT WE SEE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

LOOKING AT THE EXISTING, UM, SPLASH PAD, THERE ARE FADED PAINT, UM, ON THE FEATURES THEMSELVES, THE ACTUAL SURFACE, THE WALKING SURFACE, UH, IS WORN.

AND SO IT'S CREATING SLIP HAZARDS CURRENTLY.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO HEARING THAT THE, UM, THE PIPES ARE HAVING ISSUES KEEPING THE PRIME, AND SO PIPE REPAIRS NEED TO BE DONE FOR THAT.

UM, LOOKING AT THE EXISTING POOL DECKS SURROUNDING THE POOL, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT CRACKING AND, UM, SETTLEMENT HAPPENING THAT, THAT'S CREATING PONDING ON THE POOL DECK SURFACE.

UM, AT THE SLIDE AREA, THERE'S EROSION THAT'S HAPPENING THAT'S CAUSING SEDIMENT TO POND AND SETTLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS RETAINING WALL AND THE EXISTING STAIRS.

UM, AND SOME OF THE AREAS ARE SLOPED TOWARDS THE STAIRS, SO THAT CREATES A POTENTIAL SLIPPING HAZARD AS WELL.

UM, LOOKING AT THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, UM, IT, IT, THERE'S NOT A LARGE SCOPE OF WORK WITH THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT SOME PAINT UPGRADES, SOME, UM, TOILET ACCESSORY REPLACEMENTS.

AND THEN, UM, IN THE BOTTOM LEFT IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SHUTTERS, UM, THE EXISTING SHUTTERS, WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S SOME SECURITY ISSUES WITH THAT.

UM, THEY'RE EASY TO, UM, OR THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH BREAK-INS, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REPAIRED AND REPLACED, UM, WITH A HIGHER SECURITY OPTION.

UM, SO LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE POOL.

THERE'S THREE OPTIONS THAT I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH.

UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE COMMON RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD HAPPEN REGARDLESS.

SO THAT INCLUDES, UM, I DON'T THINK YOU PROBABLY WANT ME TO READ THE ENTIRE LIST, BUT SOME A DA UPGRADES, UM,

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SOME PIPING REPAIRS, PUMP REPAIR OR PUMP REPLACEMENTS, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO WE'LL START ON THE FIRST POOL REPAIR RECOMMENDATION.

UH, THIS IS THE MHA RE OF ACTION, WHICH IS THE MANUFACTURER AND OF ACTION, THE SYSTEM.

UM, SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO, UM, IS ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD REPAIR THE CONCRETE THAT'S IN THE POOL, AND IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE AN ENTIRELY NEW POOL LINER THAT'S WITHIN THE POOL ITSELF.

SO IT'S A POOL AND A POOL IS KIND OF HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.

SO, UM, THE UPPER PORTION OF THE POOL ITSELF WOULD HAVE A STRUCTURAL BACKING TO IT, SO CREATE MORE DURABLE, AN ENTIRELY NEW GUTTER WOULD GET INSTALLED AN ENTIRELY NEW LINER WITHIN THE POOL ITSELF.

SO THIS IS THE, UM, HIGHEST COST OPTION OF THE THREE.

HOWEVER, WITH A SINGLE MANUFACTURER, IT PROVIDES A 25 YEAR WARRANTY.

SO IF ANYTHING WERE TO GO WRONG, IT'S, IT'S ONE MANUFACTURER THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH, UM, FOR 25 YEARS.

SO, UM, IT PROVIDES A GREAT WARRANTY SYSTEM.

THE SECOND OPTION WOULD ALSO REPLACE THE GUTTER IN THE LINER.

UM, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.

THE GUTTER ITSELF, UM, IS A STAINLESS STEEL GUTTER.

AND SO ONE OF THE, UM, I GUESS POTENTIAL DRAWBACKS TO THAT IS THE STAINLESS STEEL CAN BE A LITTLE HARDER TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP IT LOOKING NICE.

UM, WITH THE TWO MANUFACTURERS, YOU'D HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WARRANTIES.

THERE'S, UM, FIVE YEAR ON THE GUTTER AND 15 YEAR ON THE LINER.

UM, AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS AN IN KIND AND REPAIR REPLACEMENT.

SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, REPAIRING THE CONCRETE, UH, NEW LINER AND A NEW GUTTER THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT'S EXISTING.

JUST, UM, REPORT AND REPLACED.

SO THIS IS A KIND OF A BROAD OVERVIEW MAP, BUT LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE, UM, PORTIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE REPAIRED AND REPLACED.

SO AGAIN, THE ENTIRE POOL DECK, THE STAIRS SURROUNDING THE SLIDES THEMSELVES, A NEW RETAINING WALL AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT HILL TO PREVENT MORE EROSION.

UM, WE'D ALSO ADD INLETS AROUND THE POOL DECK TO ALLOW WATER TO DRAIN AWAY FROM THE POOL DECK.

UM, CURRENTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HAPPENED YET, BUT IF IT HASN'T, IT WILL SOON.

WE'RE GETTING A GEOTECHNICAL REPORT DONE, UM, AROUND THE POOL DECK SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BELOW THE DECK IF WE NEED TO DO ANY, UM, SOIL REMEDIATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO STABILIZE THAT SOIL.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL THE REPAIRS I ALREADY COVERED WITH THE NEW POOL LINER.

UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WHEN ALL THIS IS DONE, IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A BRAND NEW FACILITY.

UM, YES, THE EXISTING POOL SHELL IS STILL THERE, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S A POOL AND A POOL, SO IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IT'S BRAND NEW WHEN IT'S ALL DONE.

UM, ALSO LOOKING AT THE PLAY STRUCTURES, THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU COULD GET.

UH, WE'LL WORK WITH PARKS AND THE OPERATOR TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY THAT PLAY STRUCTURE WANTS TO BE, BUT, UM, JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT COULD BE.

AND THEN NEW FEATURES WITHIN THE SPLASH PAD ITSELF.

UM, WE WOULD NOT PROPOSE.

I KNOW THE PELICAN IS WELL LOVED, SO, UM, THAT CAN STAY.

BUT, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL NEW FEATURES.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THE, UM, SURFACES, SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE TWO IN THE CENTER ARE KIND OF A LOOK AT WHAT, UM, THE MHA RENT OF ACTION, SOME OTHER INSTALL PHOTOS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF LIFE FLOOR, WHICH IS A PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE SPLASH PAD.

IT'S A CUSHION NON-SLIP SURFACE THAT COULD GO IN THAT SPLASH PAD.

UM, SO LOOKING AT THE COST ESTIMATES FOR THE THREE OPTIONS, UM, OPTION ONE, THE MARTHA RUN OF ACTION ONE IS THE ONE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

UM, IT IS THE HIGHEST COST OPTION, UM, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE THAT LONGER WARRANTY TIME WITH A SINGLE MANUFACTURER.

UM, AND THEN THE BUILDING INTERIORS AND POOL DECK COSTS ARE THE SAME ACROSS ALL THREE OPTIONS.

REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS HOW YOU TREAT THE POOL.

AND LASTLY IS THE SCHEDULE.

SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW, UM, DESIGN COULD BEGIN EARLY THIS SUMMER OF 2024.

UM, THE POOL WOULD REMAIN OPEN FOR THE SWIM SEASON, AND THEN, UM, D DOCUMENTATION WOULD BE COMPLETE EARLY 2025, WHICH WOULD ALLOW BIDDING TO HAPPEN, UM, IN EARLY 2025.

UM, SORRY, THIS SCHEDULE DOESN'T SHOW BIDDING.

BIDDING COULD HAPPEN IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

IT'S SHOWN RIGHT NOW IN THIS PRESENTATION IN, UM, MARCH OR APRIL, BUT THAT COULD, THAT COULD SCOOT FORWARD.

UM, SO REALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS WITH THE, THE BREAK BETWEEN BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION STARTING, YOU HAVE THAT SWIM SEASON OF 2025 AND THE MIDDLE THERE THAT COULD ALLOW PROCUREMENT TO HAPPEN.

SO FOR ANY OF THESE SYSTEMS, IF YOU, UM, SELECTED OPTION ONE OR TWO, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LEAD TIMES AND SOME UM, UH, DESIGN WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THAT CAN GET MANUFACTURED.

AND SO THAT ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN DURING THAT SWIM SEASON.

SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT 24, 25 AND 26, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA CLOSE THE POOL WITH THE, WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

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UM, THAT IS IT.

THAT WAS A QUICK RUN THROUGH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNSEL, YOU'RE ALL THINGS YMCA AND SWIMMING .

CONSTRUCTION MANAGER RISK.

YES, MR. CITY MANAGER DOES THIS, UM, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

I'M GONNA GET THE TERMINOLOGY RIGHT.

CMAR, DID I GET THAT RIGHT? COST MANAGER AT RISK? YES.

SO IS THIS FALL UNDER THAT SCOPE WHERE WE DO THAT, WHERE WE APPROPRIATE THESE DOLLARS, LIKE AC OR OTHERS, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO WE'RE NOT SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, 18 MONTHS FROM NOW WITH ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS CONTEMPLATING TO ADD TO WHATEVER.

SURE.

IT ANDY, DID YOU WANT TO LIKE MOTIONING TO ME, IT, IT IS A, WE HAVEN'T MADE A FINAL DETERMINATION WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA DO DESIGN BID BUILD OR SEYMOUR SEYMOUR IS AN OPTION.

UM, SO WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T MADE THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE TONIGHT WHAT'S THE CHOICE OF WHAT, WHAT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

OKAY, EXACTLY.

JUST WANTED GO AND CLARIFY.

EXACTLY.

YEAH, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, THIS, I MEAN, I'VE DRIVEN BY THAT POOL AND IT GETS PACKED.

I MEAN, IT IS A DEFINITELY A USED RESOURCE FOR MANY KIDDOS AND FAMILIES AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT EVENTS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT.

UM, ONE THING I DID WANT TO CONTEMPLATE, IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL LIKE, UM, PHYSICAL STRUCTURE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE PLAY, THE PLAY STRUCTURE WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE COME IN, DOES THIS CALL FOR OR ANTICIPATE LIKE NEW DECK CHAIRS OR ANYTHING AS A PART OF IT? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THIS SEASON WITH, WITH THE OPERATOR TO, TO PURCHASE SOME OF THAT FOR THIS SEASON.

AND THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT'LL REMAIN FOR, FOR THERE.

SO YEAH.

UH, NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS ASSESSMENT OR ANYTHING, BUT THOSE ARE SMALL THINGS THAT, SMALL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE AS FAR AS LIKE DECK SHARES.

YEAH, I MEAN, IN MY MIND I'M THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE IT DOWN.

PEOPLE ARE GONNA KNOW IT'S CLOSED.

TAXPAYERS KNOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE AN INVESTMENT.

THERE'S GONNA BE SORT OF EXCITEMENT BUILDING JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING ON A SPLASH PATIO.

LIKE, AND AS PEOPLE WALK IN IT, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL EFFICIENT POOL AND NEW LINER AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT 'EM TO SIT IN A CHAIR THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FADED OUT AND ON ITS LAST SEASON.

SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE MATCHING UP SORT OF SOME OF THE, UM, AMENITY TYPES AND KEEPING IN MIND AND WHAT THAT WOULD COST WITH IN ADDITION TO THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE.

I THINK THAT'S CONSIDERED IN THIS, IN, IN OUR THOUGHT PROCESS IN THIS, BUT I MEAN, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS NOW, RIGHT.

THAT THEY WILL ENJOY THIS SEASON, THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

WHILE WE DO THIS PROCESS.

I MEAN, I WOULD SUPPORT, NOT THAT I LOVE SPENDING MORE MONEY, BUT I MEAN, IN LOOKING AT THE WARRANTIES, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A, THE BEST INVESTMENT OR BEST USE OF OUR MONEY TO GO WITH THE FIRST OPTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE WARRANTIES LAST LONGER, SAME MANUFACTURER.

UM, SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I SUPPORT OPTION ONE.

I HAD A, GO AHEAD.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE COMPANY WITH THE WARRANTY.

HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN IN IN BUSINESS? GOOD QUESTION, .

OH YES.

I, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.

I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

I DO KNOW THAT, UH, WTI, OUR AQUATICS CONSULTANT HAS USED THEM IN MANY POOLS.

UM, THEY'RE LIKE AN OLYMPIC LEVEL, UM, MANUFACTURER.

SO, UM, I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST ADD, WHEN SHE SAYS OLYMPIC LEVEL, THAT'S WHO MAKES THE POOL FOR THE OLYMPICS.

IT'S, IT'S A MHA POOL THAT THEY BUILD ON SITE THERE IN, IN THE OLYMPICS.

SO THEY, THEY, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL FIND OUT THE ANSWER, BUT THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR, FOR A BIT.

ONE OTHER QUESTION.

SO WHAT IS THEIR EXPERIENCE IN, IN DOING THIS IN OKLAHOMA SINCE WE HAVE, UH, GROUND SHIFT? I, I'M SORRY.

SINCE OUR, OUR GROUND MOVES? MM-HMM.

JUST BECAUSE, NOT BECAUSE OF EARTHQUAKES.

BECAUSE OF CLAY.

UH, SO HOW DOES THAT SYSTEM MOVE FOR THEM? HOW DOES THAT SYSTEM WORK? YES.

IT'S, UM, IT, IT'S WITHIN THE POOL.

AND SO THE, THE STRUCTURE, THE LINING, THE WAY THAT IT'S, UM, ATTACHED, THERE'S A STRUCTURAL SYSTEM WITHIN THAT POOL.

AND SO IT ALLOWS A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT.

UM, IT'S DESIGNED TO ALLOW THAT MM-HMM, .

AND SO, UM, THE NEW SYSTEM THAT'S WITHIN THE POOL WILL CREATE THE WATER TIGHTNESS.

UM, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY USING THAT EXISTING SHELL.

UM, IT, IT'S A SHELL.

IT'S, IT'S THE HOLE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE GROUND.

AND SO, UM, IT ALLOWS MOVEMENT.

FOR THE OPTION ONE, WHICH IS BEING RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSULTANT.

YES, SIR.

I WANT, I WANNA BE CLEAR, I WANNA INVITE ANDY UP TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE THREE OPTIONS, TALK ABOUT A PRICE, BUT THAT'S NOT, I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT'S NOT THE FULL PRICE.

SO THE 6.2, THOSE, THERE'S OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE YEAH, THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UM, SO I GUESS A LITTLE BIT FIRST ON THAT, UM, THESE ARE ESTIMATES AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S ABOUT $6.3 MILLION

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AND THEN ADDITION TO THIS IS DESIGN FEES WITH GH TWO.

SO ASSUMING YOU ALL MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE POOL, THEN IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED.

AND SO WE WOULD BRING THAT TO YOU ALL AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

SO THAT'S A, A APPROXIMATELY AN ADDITIONAL $550,000 ON TOP OF THE $6.3 MILLION ESTIMATE.

BUT WE ARE EVALUATING A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THE BUDGET IS SET, I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST SETTING A BUDGET THIS EARLY IN THE PROJECT.

BUT ONCE THE BUDGET IS SET, THE BUDGET WILL BE THE BUDGET.

IS THAT, IS THAT HELPFUL? MR. MOORE KIND OF, KIND OF, WELL, IT JUST TO SET BEFORE WE GET IN, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO DESIGN, UNTIL SOME OF THE MORE DETAILS ARE KNOWN ABOUT THE PROJECT OF JUST CAUTIONING AND SETTING A BUDGET.

BUT FROM ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD COST $6.3 MILLION TO MAKE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU.

WELL, YEAH.

AND IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT IS, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE DESIGN SCOPE, BUT IT WILL BE IN EXCESS OF $500,000 FOR, FOR THE DESIGN.

IT WON'T EVEN START FOR, GOSH, A YEAR AND A HALF, SO, CORRECT, CORRECT.

WELL, WE'RE, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT BUDGET.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE CORRECT.

IF, IF WE KEEP THIS EXACTLY.

BUT IF WE KEEP THIS TIMELINE, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO BID THE PROJECT IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

SOME MATERIALS CAN BE PROCURED.

AND AGAIN, SHORTENING THAT TIME SPAN FROM NOW INTO BIDDING TO, TO LESSEN SORT OF THE, WHATEVER THE MARKET IS GONNA DO.

WE KNOW PRICES AREN'T GOING DOWN, SO THE QUICKER WE GET IT OUT TO BID, THE QUICKER WE CAN LOCK IN A PRICE.

SO, AND I WOULD, I'M, I'M A BIG PROPONENT IF YOU'RE IN THERE WITH THE HAMMER, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN DO THAT MAKES SENSE INSTEAD OF GOING IN WITH THE HAMMER LATER.

SO YEAH.

I'M JUST TRYING, I WAS TRYING TO RECALL THE LAST TIME I WAS IN THE PELICAN BAY BATHROOMS. I THINK IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS.

ONE OF MY KIDDOS.

SO YEAH.

SO I APPRECIATE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA THROW SOME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DO SOME PAINT MM-HMM.

BUT IF WE GO IN THERE AND REALIZE, HEY, WE REALLY NEED A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS TO HAPPEN IN HERE.

I'D LIKE TO JUST KNOW WHAT THAT IS OR TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY A DA COMPLIANT, UM, CHANGING TABLE FOR ADULT SIZE.

WELL, AND THAT, OR, OR THAT WAS IN HERE, WASN'T IT? WELL, THERE'S A DA STUFF.

I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

AND I, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF PELICAN BAY HAS A DEDICATED FAMILY CHANGING AREA AND THAT KIND OF THING, BUT, UM, IT DOES.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IF IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO IN A BATHROOM SITUATION OR A CONCESSION SITUATION TO SPEND, SAY, WE'LL MAKE IT UP X $50,000 INSTEAD OF 150,000 LITER.

SO YEAH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO.

I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING GH TWO, UH, THAT WILL COME FORWARD ON MAY 28TH THROUGH NEXT MEETING IS IN THEIR DESIGN SCOPE IS TO DESIGN THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.

THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING TO THE NORTH, UH, THERE WHERE THE VISITORS BUREAU USED TO BE, THAT PRICE IS CURRENTLY NOT KNOWN.

SO THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE $6.3 MILLION.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS OPTIONS.

AND TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE BUDGET.

IT CAN BE BID AS AN OPTION.

SO AS AN AD ALTERNATE TO SAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING, HERE'S HOW MANY SPACES THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD GET, AND HERE'S THE COST OF THAT.

SO WE WILL, IN ADDITION TO BRINGING THE DESIGN CONTRACT, WE WILL ALSO BRING FORWARD, UM, HOW TO FUND THESE IMPROVEMENTS AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

AND I, AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK, BUT I, IT'S VERY COMMON FOR PEOPLE TO TELL ME, HEY, WE WERE AT THIS TOURNAMENT.

AND THEN THE OTHER FAMILY WENT AND SWAM.

YOU BET.

OR WE HIT UP, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME NICE, FAST, QUICK SERVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SWIG AND SOME STUFF.

SO IT'S HOW, IT'S LIKE, HOW DOES IT ALL CONNECT? YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET PEOPLE INTO THE PARK AND OVER? IT'S LIKE, YOU BET ARE, THERE'S SOME SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO JUST, SOMETHING HANGS OUT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO GET A SWIG.

THEY CAN GO SWIM, THEY GO SEE THEIR BROTHER OR SISTER PLAY BALL.

LIKE A LOT OF GREAT IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING AROUND THE NINTH AND BRYAN AREA FOR SURE.

SO, YEAH.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM? SORRY, IT'S CLOSE TO MY BED.

DOWN .

SO THE, THE, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A PRESENTATION, BUT WHAT ARE WE, WHAT WOULD WE ACTUALLY BE, DO WE DO ANYTHING PRE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION? WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? YOU TELL ME.

I DON'T THINK, MAYOR, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DIRECT STAFF ON WHICH OPTION COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS WANTING US TO PURSUE, I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENTION.

I THINK PERHAPS A, A RECOMMENDATION ON ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE CONSULTANTS MADE, THEIR

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RECOMMENDATION.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ALIGNED BEFORE WE BRING THE DESIGN AGREEMENT TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING.

I LIKE THAT.

THE OPTION ONE, WHEN CONTRACTOR, UH, WARRANTY.

THE, THE WARRANTY THE CONTRACTOR IS MY UNDERSTANDING NOW HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, SINCE 1961.

UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE TURBULENCE OF THE GROUND ITSELF.

UH, UH, 'CAUSE IT, IT WILL MOVE AND IT WILL SHIFT.

AND SO, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT MY, YEAH.

AND IT, IT'S SUCH A GREAT AMENITY FOR EDMOND AND IT'S PROVEN THIS IN TIME AFTER TIME AND VISITING WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS IN EDMOND THAT IF WE'RE GONNA FIX IT, WE SHOULD FIX IT.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, I REALLY LIKE HAVING TO WARRANTY WITH IT.

AND THE ROBINS BOYS WILL BE HAPPY TO PUT IT TO USE.

UM, WE'LL TEST IT OUT.

ANY WARRANTY, ANY, ANYWHERE , WE'LL GO.

SO I, I WOULD GO WITH ONE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF ONE AS WELL.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE EVERY, ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS ARE GOING, LIKE, WE'D LIKE OPTION NUMBER ONE.

11, CITIZENS' COMMENTS, OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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[11. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the Council Chambers lobby.]

TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON CITY RELATED MATTERS, NOT ON THE AGENDA SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, CITIZENS MUST SPEAK UP, SIGN UP TO SPEAK, EITHER ONLINE BY 3:00 PM THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OR IN PERSON BY THE START OF THE MEETING.

ALL REMARKS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE MAYOR, UH, OR THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING, OR LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS, AND MUST OTHERWISE BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS.

UH, AUTHORITY RULES.

WE HAVE ONE RESIDENT, BEVERLY WOODROW.

HELLO, I AM BEVERLY WOODROW.

I LIVE AT 28 0 4 GREENFIELD DRIVE, AND I AM HERE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT, UH, TO RED TEAM TWO, FIRE STATION TWO ON 15TH STREET ON MARCH 27TH, AFTER MAKING SOME PREARRANGEMENTS, I TOOK MY 13-YEAR-OLD MALE MENTEE, UM, AS A SURPRISE TO THE FIRE STATION.

AND I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT.

BUT THE FIREMEN THERE AND, AND THE FIREFIGHTERS, THERE WERE FIREMEN AND ONE FIRE WOMAN , IF YOU WILL.

UM, THEY MADE HIM FEEL SO SPECIAL.

I'M NOT KIDDING.

HE'S TALKATIVE AND WHATEVER, BUT HE GOT QUIET AND IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST AMAZING.

SO I THINK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES THE LITTLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T TELL YOU.

I WANT TO THANK, IN PARTICULAR THE, THE TEAM.

DYLAN LONG FIREFIGHTER GARRETT JONES, FIREFIGHTER HEIDI THOMAS, FIREFIGHTER, JARED MCELVANE, FIREFIGHTER, BRIAN HALE, LIEUTENANT JUSTIN LARAMIE, DRIVER, LES LEACH, DRIVER, JUSTIN MANN, DRIVER, PT MCMURTRY CAPTAIN, AND SPENCER REPP, RELIEF DRIVER.

UH, FIREFIGHTERS LONG JONES AND THOMAS WERE OUR TOUR GUIDES, UH, AFTER EVERYBODY LEFT.

BUT AGAIN, THEY ALL GREETED HIM.

THEY GREETED HIM BY NAME.

THEY SHOOK HIS HAND.

I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS JUST LIKE GOING DOWN AND HONOR, UM, AND HONOR, UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

CAN'T EVEN THINK HONOR GUARD.

IT WAS JUST AMAZING.

HIS EYES WERE ABOUT THIS BIG THE WHOLE TIME.

DIANE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SECRETARY, SAID ALL OF THE EDMOND FIREFIGHTING TEAMS MAKE KIDS FEEL SPECIAL.

I HAD NO IDEA.

I JUST KNOCKED ONE DAY AND ASKED, YOU KNOW, COULD I BRING MY MENTEE? AND THEY SAID, YES, GO THROUGH.

DIANE, BY THE WAY, IN EXPLAINING EQUIPMENT AND PROTECTION, GEAR AND PROCESSES, FIREFIGHTER LONG EXPRESSED GRATITUDE TO THE CITY OF EDMOND FOR TAKING SUCH GOOD CARE OF THEM.

SO HE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT.

WELL, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW I'M HERE, .

BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL YOU DO.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND BEING AT THIS MEETING TODAY.

UH, WE MISSED AN ITEM BACK ON ONE C THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND READDRESS.

WHAT,

[02:15:02]

WHAT? I'M VERY FUNNY, MAN.

AH, I NEEDED THAT.

ITEM NUMBER 13, ADJOURNMENT.

I HAVE A CITIZEN'S OR COUNCILMAN, OH, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T, I'M SORRY.

TWO MS. MUD, GO FIRST.

[12. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]

UM, HOPEFULLY SOME FOLKS ARE WATCHING ONLINE, BUT, UM, I, AND I THINK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE A LOT OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COMING UP.

UM, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT REVIEW COMMITTEE, THE, UM, UH, UH, AGENCY REVIEW, COMMUNITY AGENCY REVIEW COMMISSION.

UM, WE NOW HAVE A GO BOND COMMITTEE, UM, APPOINTMENTS COMING UP AS WELL AS THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE REALLY TRIED TO DO IS GET PEOPLE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY WHO MAYBE ARE UNDERREPRESENTED OR HAVE NOT SERVED ON A BOARD OR COMMITTEE BEFORE.

AND SO JUST ENCOURAGING ANYONE THAT YOU ALL KNOW, UM, ANYONE WATCHING, UM, ANY INTEREST IN IN SERVING THE CITY.

THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO KIND OF GET YOUR, GET YOUR TOE IN THERE AND LEARN AND, UM, BE ENGAGED.

SO REACH OUT.

THERE'S AN ONLINE APPLICATION.

YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL ANY OF US AS WELL.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S A SO MANY APPOINTMENTS THERE.

BUT THERE'S ALSO BOARDS AND COMMITTEES WHERE PEOPLE ROLL OFF.

RIGHT.

THEY TERM OUT.

AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO GET ON ANY BOARD WHEREVER YOU, UM, HAVE AN INTEREST.

IT'S, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET INVOLVED.

THERE'S IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THERE'S 28 NOW, I GUESS.

'CAUSE THERE WERE 26 AND WE'VE ADDED A COUPLE, SO, YEAH.

VERY EXCITING.

MS. WOODRUM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

IT'S A PLEASURE.

THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT.

UH, I WANNA SAY TWO THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK CASEY MOORE AND LENA DOZIER.

THEY HELPED ME WITH A PROJECT AND, UH, THEIR RESEARCH WAS GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND LET LENA KNOW, UH, VERY MUCH.

UH, SECONDLY, UH, OUR CITY CLERK, UH, I HAD SOMEONE TELL ME THE OTHER DAY, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE STOPPED BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE THINKING WE NEEDED TO BE THERE FOR, TO GET SOME SERVICES THAT WE REQUIRED.

UH, THEY WERE IN THE WRONG PLACE, BUT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WAS VERY HELPFUL TO THEM AND GOT 'EM HEADED, UH, WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GO.

AND I KNOW I'VE CALLED OVER THERE, UH, ASKING FOR THINGS THAT CITIZENS WANT, AND MS. OLSON AND MS. CASTILE AND OUR CITY CLERK, CORY, OR ARE, UH, THEY'RE VERY, VERY HELPFUL, UH, TO OUR CITIZENRY.

AND YOU OFTEN DON'T GET A PAT ON THE BACK SITTING UP HERE, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THOSE FOLKS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND WE MISSED YOU HERE DURING CITY CLERK WEEK, SO, YAY.

UM, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I MIGHT SAY JUST SOMETHING QUICK SINCE I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

YES, .

UM, HERE'S TO BE QUICK .

UM, I, I I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE UP HERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO OTHER PLACES AND SEE OTHER THINGS AND IT'S NICE TO BE HOME.

GOOD.

THERE YOU DO.

UM, BUT IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HEAR THE TERM, IT TAKES A VILLAGE.

IT TAKES A CITY.

I, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DON'T SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, SENATOR COVE, BETTY BRINKMAN, NANCY NICHOLS, ROSS VANDERHAM, OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THE DEPUTY CLERKS AND CITY CLERKS.

UM, WE ARE AN OFFICE.

UH, WE ARE AS GOOD AS AN OFFICE BECAUSE OF THEM AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR US IN BUILDING US UP.

AND, UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE TEAM, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S JANE FILLING IN WHEN I'M SICK, WHETHER IT'S MADELINE NOT THROWING ME OUTSIDE WHEN I BOTHER HER 10 TIMES A DAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS A, A GREAT TEAM TO BE HERE.

AND, AND I REALLY WANNA SAY IT'S A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, THE CITY STAFF WHO PUT ON AN AMAZING OPEN HOUSE ON SATURDAY.

UH, ANY DEPARTMENT YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT ALL THE FUN.

YOU WANTED TO HAVE GAMES AND TRUCKS AND COME MEET THE FLEET.

SO I KNOW SARAH AND THERE WAS A BUNCH OF FOLKS THAT PLAYED A ROLE.

SO SATURDAY IS, IT WASN'T A DAY OFF FOR A LOT OF OUR FOLKS, AND THEY MET WITH A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO, APPRECIATE IT.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY, BEAUTIFUL WEATHER TOO.

AND OUR ARTS FESTIVAL WAS AMAZING.

AND SO PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, I WILL JUST KEEP VOLUNTEERING ONLY THIS YEAR.

I THINK IT TALKED MORE THAN I WORKED, BUT IT WAS SO FUN.

, YOU'VE GOT TO GO DOWN THERE.

SOME SPECTACULAR VENDORS AND IT JUST GETS BIGGER AND BETTER EVERY YEAR.

MORE ORGANIZED EVERY YEAR, EVEN IF IT COULD, OR I CAN'T BELIEVE IT DOES, BUT IT DOES.

ALL OF THE VENDORS REALLY ENJOY COMING TO OUR ARTS FESTIVAL.

[02:20:01]

IT'S, IT'S AN EVENT NOT TO MESS.

WELL, YOU'VE ALL SAID THE THINGS I WAS GONNA SAY.

OH, SO THAT'S GOOD.

ITEM ONE C.

PARDON ME? ITEM ONE C.

WELL, I, I'M , I'M TALKING, LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MOTION.

MAYOR.