Nov 25, 2024 City Council

NEXT, WE NEED A MOTION TO RECESS THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CONVI CALL TO ORDER THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.

SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

[3. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]

SO MOVED.

SECOND MOTION.

WE'RE NOW IN THE PUBLIC

[4. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.

NEXT IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.

GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ITEMS. UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, ITEM FOUR A B THAT NEEDS A RESOLUTION NUMBER NINE DASH 24 9 DASH 24.

COUNSELOR, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON? OUT OF THE SIX GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS, MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY CONSENT DOCKET.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE ITEM FIVE B, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE MOND ELECTRIC BOND ISSUANCE.

THOSE SIX CONSENT ITEMS HAVE BEEN PASSED.

NEXT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ITEMS. UM,

[B. Consideration of Approval of a Supplemental Appropriation for Edmond Electric Bond Issuance Expenditures; $19,650,000.00. (Citywide)]

[C. Consideration of Acceptance of Bid for Power Transformers for the Electric Department; $4,735,680.00. (Citywide)]

UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FOR FIVE B AND FIVE C.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, GLEN FISHER WITH EDMOND ELECTRIC.

JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION WE'RE REQUESTING TONIGHT.

UH, IF YOU RECALL, BACK IN JUNE, WE TOOK A, UH, PROPOSED BOND PACKAGE TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

AND BACK IN, UH, AUGUST OF AUGUST 26TH, COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL DID APPROVE THAT BOND ISSUE.

AND THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT WOULD GIVE US THE, UH, EXPENDITURE AUTHORITY FOR THAT $19.65 MILLION.

UH, IT COVERS PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AND I SAID THIS DURING THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IT AGAIN.

THIS WILL NOT CAUSE ANY RATE INCREASES, BASE RATE INCREASES FOR EDMOND ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS.

THIS IS GONNA BE PART OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.

WE CAN FIT THE DEBT SERVICE INTO OUR BUDGET.

IT WILL NOT INCREASE OUR RATES.

I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT OUR LAST RATE INCREASE WAS NOVEMBER 1ST, 2015.

SO WE'VE BEEN RUNNING VERY EFFICIENTLY, VERY, UM, CONSERVATIVELY, AND WE CONTIN WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, AND WE DID NOT LOSE ELECTRICITY.

WHAT'S THAT WHEN WE DIDN'T LOSE ELECTRICITY DURING THAT VERY, VERY COLD SPELL.

EDMOND SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT, .

I DON'T HAVE, I I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LUCK.

WE HAVE EDMOND ELECTRIC BEHIND US.

WE HAVE A WORD WE NEVER USE IN THE, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE, SO,

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BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, WE DO EXPECT AN ADDITIONAL DEBT ISSUE IN, IN 2030.

WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW OUR RATES, THEN SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT FOR THE LONG TERM.

UM, THE PROJECT'S COVERED IN THIS, UM, FIRST OF ALL, DOWNTOWN MAINLINE FEEDERS.

THAT WILL BE FROM KELLY TO BOULEVARD, UH, TWO FEEDERS.

THIS GOAL OF THIS IS START REPLACING ALL THE OLD BACK ALLEY OVERHEAD CIRCUITS WITH FRONT LOT, UM, UM, UNDERGROUND, TRYING TO GET RID OF ALL THAT OVERHEAD THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AND LOAD AND THE NEED FOR THAT.

JUST FOR THE USE OF THE ALLEYWAYS, UH, WE'VE GOT TWO NEW, TWO SUBSTATION PROJECTS.

ONE IS, UH, COFFEE CREEK SUBSTATION BETWEEN COVE AND COFFEE CREEK ON SOME PROPERTY THERE, UM, THAT WE BOUGHT WITH WATER RESOURCES SEVERAL YEARS BACK.

UM, THE, WE WILL BE EXPANDING THE GARBER SUBSTATION OVER OFF OF POST AND SECOND STREET THAT'LL HELP SUPPORT THE, UH, WATER TREATMENT PLANT LOAD, AND THEN JUST GENERAL GROWTH OUT IN EAST EDMOND.

AND, UM, FINALLY, WE, WE WILL PICK UP A SPARE SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER.

I WANNA POINT OUT ABOUT THOSE THREE SUBSTATION PROJECTS, COFFEE CREEK, GARBER AND DE SPARE TRANSFORMER.

ITEM FIVE C COVERS THAT AND IT'S, IT'S CONTINUED UPON THE APPROVAL HERE.

UM, WE WILL START LOOKING AT A NEW OFFICE FOR THE EDMUND ELECTRIC.

UM, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO OUT TO CROSS TIMBERS, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WEDGED IN STORAGE ROOMS AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, WE HAVE KIND OF REACHED A CAPACITY AS FAR AS STAFF.

AND AS EDMUND GROWS, WE NEED MORE ROOM FOR STAFF.

NOT ONLY ELECTRIC, BUT PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL.

SO WE'LL START LOOKING AT A DESIGN FOR A NEW FACILITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE GOT SOME CIRCUIT UPGRADES WE PLAN TO DO, AND THEN OTHER, UH, SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS FIVE, B AND C.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS FIVE, B AND C.

I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

FIVE B AND CI APPROVE.

NEED AN ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

NEXT, WE

[6. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]

SO MOVED.

MOTION SECOND.

HAVE OUR GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ITEMS TODAY.

WE'RE NOW BACK IN THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

NEXT, UH, WE

[7. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

I DON'T SEE ANY RESOLUTION ITEMS. I DON'T SEE ANY STAFF PRESENTATIONS.

MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN A THROUGH L.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND TO APPROVE.

ITEM SEVEN A THROUGH L.

UH, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

THOSE GENERAL CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS, 12 ITEMS HAVE BEEN PASSED.

ITEM EIGHT IS THE CENTER CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ITEMS, UM, WE, WE HAVE

[A. Case No. Z24-00014; Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ___ Rezoning from “A” Single Family Dwelling District to “B” Two Family Dwelling District for the Property Located at 505 N. Boulevard. (Saeed Zahrai; Ward 1)]

NONE.

SO ITEM NINE WE HAVE IS THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING.

OUR FIRST ITEM IS CASE NUMBER Z 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 4.

PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 1 7 4 0 1 7, REZONING FROM A, A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT TO B TWO FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5 0 5 NORTH BOULEVARD.

SAHE SAHARI IS THE APPLICANT.

APPLICANT HERE? YES.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A RESING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO BEING TWO FAMILY ON THE WEST SIDE OF BOULEVARD BETWEEN FACTOR AND WADE.

THE 14,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT HAS AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND RESIDENCE WITHIN THE EXISTING DWELLING, CREATING A DUPLEX.

THE STRUCTURE AS IT EXISTS TODAY IS NON-CONFORMING TO THE SETBACKS OF THE D TWO FAMILY DISTRICT AND IS NOT ALLOWED TO EXPAND THAT NON-CONFORMITY.

THE EDMOND PLAN 2018 SUPPORTS THIS REZONING AS THE PROPERTY IS CATEGORIZED AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH FAVORS AN INCREASE IN DENSITY FROM SINGLE FAMILY.

THIS CATEGORY SERVES AS A TRANSITION ZONE FROM DOWNTOWN CORE TO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE CENTRAL EDMOND URBAN DISTRICT BOARD REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION ON OCTOBER 15TH.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION ON NOVEMBER 5TH, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

WOULD THE, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNSEL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO.

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WOULD THE COUNSEL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COME FOR THE APPLICANT? THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING PART OF OUR MEETING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? C? NONE.

HEARING NONE.

COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM NINE? A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

ITEMS PASSED.

THANK YOU VERY

[B. Public Hearing and Consideration of Resolution No. ___ Declaring that Certain Structures in the City of Edmond are Dilapidated, Uninhabitable, Abandoned and/or a Public Nuisance, and Constitute(s) a Keeping of a Place Where Activities in Violation of State law or Ordinance are Practiced, and/or Refuse or Other Things, which are, or are likely to be, Breeding Places for Flies, Mosquitoes, Vermin or Disease Germs; Directing that such Structures be Torn Down, Razed and Said Removed by the Owner(s) Within the Dates Specified; Directing the City Clerk to Pursue Recovery of Costs of Such Work if Done by the City; Directing the City Treasurer to Place any Such Revenues Collected as Demolition Costs into the Specific City Fund from which Said Revenues Were Originally Appropriated; and Further Directing the Filing of a Notice of Lien in the County Clerk's Office. (916 Elmwood Drive; Ward 3)]

MUCH.

NEXT WE HAVE THE, UM, ITEM NINE B PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 47 DASH 24 47 DASH 24.

DE DECLARING THE CERTAIN STRUCTURES IN THE CITY OF EDMOND ARE DILAPIDATED, UNHA, UNINHABITABLE, ABANDONED, AND OR PUBLIC NUISANCE AND CONSTITUTES KEEPING OF A PLACE WHERE ACTIVITIES IN VIOLATION OF THE STATE LAW OR ORDINANCE OR PRACTICE AND OR REFUSE, OR OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE OR LIKELY TO BE BREEDING PLACES FOR FLIES, MOSQUITOES, VERMIN, OR DISEASE TERMS, DIRECTING THAT SUCH STRUCTURES BE TORN DOWN, RAISED AND SAID, REMOVED BY THE OWNER OR OWNERS WITHIN THE DATE SPECIFIED, DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PURSUE RECOVERY OF COSTS OF WORK OF SUCH WORK IF DONE BY THE CITY, DIRECTING THE CITY TREASURER TO PLACE ANY SUCH REVENUES COLLECTED AS DEMOLITION COSTS INTO THE SPECIFIC CITY FUNDS FROM WHICH SAID REVENUES WERE ORIGINALLY APPROPRIATED IN FURTHER DIRECTING THE FILING OF A NOTICE OF A LIEN IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THIS IS DEALING WITH THE PROPERTY AT 9 1 6 ELMWOOD DRIVE, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IVAN SMITH, CITY OF EDMOND, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR.

AS MAYOR DAVIS STATED, THIS IS ABOUT, UH, DECLARATION OF DILAPIDATION AND PUBLIC NUISANCE AT, UH, 9 1 6 ELMORE.

THIS NEXT SLIDE DETAILS OUR INVOLVEMENT AT THE PROPERTY SINCE THE, THE PROPERTY WAS TAKEN OFF THE LAST CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA.

I WOULD WOULD NOTE THAT IT, THIS IS VERY UNCHARACTERISTIC FOR PROPERTIES HERE IN EDMOND.

HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE A 98% VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE RATE WITH A DURATION OF 10 DAYS OR LESS.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA GO BULLET BY BULLET BY THIS.

I THINK THE KEY TAKEAWAY ON THIS SLIDE IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD TWO SRS SIX CASES, TWO ABATEMENTS, AND 41 INSPECTIONS BY STAFF SINCE THIS PROPERTY WAS REMOVED FROM THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA LAST TIME FOR THE SAME CONSIDERATION.

THESE, THESE NEXT TWO SLIDE OR SLIDES ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY.

AND I THINK OF NOTE OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS BEYOND THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS THE DATE TIMESTAMPS THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN.

THE PHOTOGRAPH IN AUGUST WAS PRIOR TO THE LAST ABATEMENT THAT WE PERFORMED THAT HAD A CASE DURATION OF 69 DAYS.

THE, THE NEXT PHOTO IS JUST A MONTH LATER ON OCTOBER 21ST.

AND THIS PHOTO, UH, DATED NOVEMBER 4TH WAS AT THE TIME THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN, WAS THE TIME THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT DECIDED TO BRING THIS MATTER BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

I MEAN, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF ON THIS ISSUE AT BEFORE US TONIGHT? I DO NOT.

NO, WE DON'T.

OH, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

SORRY FOR, THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

UM, LET ME GET TO MY PAGE HERE.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON THIS, UH, ITEM? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, PLEASE, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SIR, SO THAT WE KNOW WHO YOU, EVERYONE.

I'M SORRY.

I, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS STEVE FERGUSON.

I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 9 1 6 ELWOOD DRIVE.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I SEE SOME NEW FACES HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF ANYONE KNOWS THE BACKGROUND.

MY SON, GREG, WHO IS, WHO WILL BE 45 YEARS OLD, UH, HAS BEEN LIVING AT THE PROPERTY.

WE DID HAVE HIM EVICTED,

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UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

UH, HE HAS BEEN IN AND OUT OF THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH AND DRUG ADDICTION FACILITIES DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I AGREED TO LET GREG MOVE BACK INTO THE HOUSE TEMPORARILY.

UH, AND HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING TO A, UH, SOBER LIVING FACILITY.

AND HE DID GO TO TWO DIFFERENT ONES.

BUT IT, HE KEPT COMING BACK TO THE HOUSE.

AND I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED.

UH, I TRY NOT TO GIVE UP ON GREG.

AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT DIDN'T WORK.

I JUST ENDED UP ENABLING HIM.

UM, I HAVE PICTURES OF THE HOUSE, UH, AS OF TODAY, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN COMING BY AND TALKING TO GREG, UH, IS HERE TONIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS THAT YOURSELF? UM, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO I WENT BY THERE AND I SAID, GREG, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES HE MOVED IN WITH US, MY WIFE AND I AT OUR HOME ON 34TH STREET, UH, NORTHWEST 34TH STREET IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED THERE.

UM, WE HAD A COUPLE OF ABATEMENTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST TOLD HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAD TO, HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHEN HE, HE, HE'S BEEN UNDERGOING PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT SINCE HE WAS 10 YEARS OLD.

HE DOES HAVE MENTAL ISSUES.

UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT.

UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD CL CLEAN AND TIDY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED ALL MY LIFE.

I'LL, I'LL BE 72 IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THE HOUSE IS PAID OFF.

UM, IT'S INSURED FOR $385,000 AS A REPLACEMENT COST.

UM, THE ROOF IS SIX YEARS OLD.

THE HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM IS THREE YEARS OLD.

UM, IT WAS A DOWNFLOW SYSTEM WITH THE VENTS IN THE SLAB, AND WE, UH, SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY GETTING IT, UH, PUT IN THE VENTS IN THE, IN THE, THE ATTIC AND A WHOLE NEW, UM, FURNACE AND, AND, UH, CONDENSER.

UM, I, I, I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN UP TO SPEED.

UH, I AM WILLING AND PLAN ON MOVING BACK INTO THE FACILITY TOMORROW.

PERSONALLY.

UH, I'LL BE LIVING THERE.

MY SON WILL NOT BE LIVING THERE ANY LONGER.

NOT EVEN FOR ONE NIGHT.

HE WILL NOT BE THERE TONIGHT.

UH, NOR WILL HE BE THERE ANY OTHER NIGHT GOING FORWARD.

UH, I WILL BE EITHER LIVING THERE OR WILL BE CHECKING ON THE HOUSE EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

AND ALL I ASK IS THAT WE GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO, UH, SHOW THE CITY THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, CAN BE MAIN MAINTAINED AND IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND WILL NOT HAVE ANY MORE DEBRIS PILED OUTSIDE EITHER IN FRONT YARD, BACKYARD, ANYWHERE, UH, OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND OUT THESE PHOTOGRAPHS.

I THINK I JUST, YEAH, I THINK I JUST HAVE FIVE.

I GUESS THERE WAS A SOMEWHAT OF A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN MY SON AND THE GENTLEMAN BACK THERE THAT'S BEEN, UH, UH, LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY.

UM, BECAUSE HE, ACCORDING TO GREG, AND I HAVEN'T VERIFIED IT.

I, I TRIED TO CALL HIM TODAY TO ASK HIM TO STOP BY THE HOUSE.

HE DID DRIVE BY, BUT HE DIDN'T STOP.

UH, I WAS IN, I WAS IN MY TRUCK WHEN HE DROVE BY.

UM, THE GENTLEMAN SAID HE WAS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE BACKYARD.

HE WAS JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE FRONT.

NOW, HONESTLY, THE BACKYARD, THE FRONT

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YARD WAS, WAS BAD.

BUT I THINK THAT GAVE GREG A, A LITTLE DIFFERENT SENSE OF WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO.

UH, PLUS HE, HE BROKE HIS HAND ABOUT A WEEK OR 10 DAYS AGO, AND IT SWELLED UP.

IT STILL SWOLLEN ABOUT TWICE THE SIZE OF IT.

SO HE WAS KIND OF OUT OF THE MIX.

BUT THAT, THAT REALLY IS SUPERFLUOUS.

UH, I'M WILLING TO TELL THE COUNCIL THAT I WILL BE STAYING IN THE STRUCTURE FROM HERE ON OUT.

UH, WHETHER MY WIFE MOVES BACK TO THE STRUCTURE WITH ME OR NOT, UH, REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

BUT I WOULD BE MOVING BACK THERE.

UH, AND I WOULD ASSURE THE COUNSEL THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE NO MORE, UH, NEED TO STOP BY.

UH, IT'LL BE JUST LIKE YOU SEE IT NOW FOR THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

MY CAR MAY BE THERE, IT MAY NOT BE THERE.

I GET UP EARLY A LOT OF TIMES, DRIVE TO SPENCERS TO TAKE MY GRANDKIDS TO SCHOOL.

SO I GENERALLY LEAVE AROUND 7:00 AM AND DON'T GET BACK TILL ABOUT NINE OR NINE 15.

SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER EXPLANATION OTHER THAN TO, UM, JUST PLEAD WITH THE FACT THAT, UH, MY SON HAS GOT MENTAL ISSUES.

AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE TO SAY LEAST, UH, HAVING TO DEAL WITH HIM ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO TELL HIM HE CAN'T STAY THERE ANYMORE.

HE DOES HAVE PLACES TO GO.

HE CAN STAY AT OUR HOUSE, UH, DOWN IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

UH, HE CAN, HE'S BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE WITH MY DAUGHTER OUT IN SPENCER.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUTTING HIM ON THE STREET.

BUT, UM, HE CANNOT STAY AT EDMOND ANY LONGER.

AND SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I JUST, UH, I PLEAD WITH YOU TO GIVE US ONE LAST CHANCE, AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD THAT YOU WON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER PROBLEMS WITH THE, WITH THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, IT, IT DOES REPRESENT A SU SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OUR SAVINGS.

UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE HAS BEEN PAID OFF FOR A WHILE.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE, THE REPLACEMENT VALUE ON IT, UH, AS FAR AS USAA IS CONCERNED IS $385,000, WHICH I OBJECTED TO, BUT I GUESS IT IS WHAT IT IS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT STRUCTURE IS 2000 SQUARE FEET COSTING $385,000 TO REBUILD, BUT, AND A TOTAL LOSS.

BUT THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS RIGHT NOW? UM, I, I DO HAVE COMMENTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA HEAR FROM ANYONE ELSE FIRST OR, I DON'T KNOW, ORDER OF OPERATIONS.

MAYOR, WE'VE HEARD FROM STAFF.

I DON'T, UH, I, WHATEVER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU WANT.

UH, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR THE ENTIRE TIME AND, RIGHT.

AND I, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE WHERE THE PICTURES LOOK LIKE THIS.

YEP.

ONE DAY.

THEN THE NEXT DAY THEY LOOK LIKE THIS, THEN THE NEXT DAY YEP.

SOMEHOW THEY LOOKED LIKE THIS AGAIN.

YEP.

UM, SO WE, IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS DEALING WITH THIS.

UH, IT'S BEEN THREE THAN THAT.

SINCE 2020 1ST OF AUGUST.

I, I, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

, UM, AND MR. FERGUSON.

YEAH.

UH, MS. PETERSON AND I AND THE MAYOR HAVE ALL BEEN HERE FOR ALL OF THE MEETINGS.

AND I HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PRIOR MEETINGS, AND YOU GAVE US YOUR WORD PRIOR THAT GREG WOULDN'T BE LIVING IN THERE ANYMORE.

AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU PROMISED AND WE'RE HERE AT THIS SAME EXACT PLACE AGAIN.

UM, AND SO I, I AM NOT UNSYMPATHETIC TO THE DIFFICULT DECISION THAT YOU'RE IN.

AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT GREG GETS THE HELP AND THE RESOURCES THAT HE NEEDS.

UM, BUT THE RESOURCES THAT THE CITY HAS EXPENDED AND THE NEIGHBORS, UM, THERE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES INVOLVED WITH THE TRASH AND, UM, UH, INSECTS, RODENTS, BUGS.

UM,

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I MEAN, IT'S LIKE WE SEE THE PICTURES YOU PLEAD, YOU SHOW US THESE PICTURES, AND WE'RE BACK IN THE EXACT SAME SPACE, UM, IF NOT WORSE.

AND YOU GAVE US HIS WORD.

HE WASN'T GOING TO LIVE THERE TWO YEARS AGO.

AND HE'S LI BEEN LIVING THERE.

I, I, I, IN ORDER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY, I, I CAN'T LET THIS CONTINUE ANYMORE.

I MEAN, THE RESOURCES, CITY RESOURCES, WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE PUT UP WITH, UM, I'M DONE.

SO I, I MEAN, I, I DON'T DO WELL WHEN PEOPLE GIVE ME THEIR WORD AND THEN DON'T ABIDE BY THEIR WORD.

AND WE'VE GIVEN MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE CHANCES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO GET THIS RECTIFIED.

AND YOU SAW THE LIST OF THE TIMES THAT, AND, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN OUTSTANDING INVOICE FOR OVER $2,300 OWED TO THE CITY THAT WAS SENT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

I'M, I'M SORRY, I CANNOT HEAR WORDS YOU'RE SAYING.

I WISH YOU WOULD'VE TOLD ME THAT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO.

BUT, UM, THIS, THIS CYCLE HAS CONTINUED, AND YOU GAVE US YOUR WORD OVER TWO YEARS AGO THAT GREG WOULD NOT BE LIVING IN THE RESIDENCE.

HE'S BEEN LIVING IN THE RESIDENCE.

THERE'S AN OUTSTANDING, UM, BILL FOR OVER $2,300 BECAUSE THE CITY ABATED THIS, THE END OF SEPTEMBER THAT HAS NOT BEEN PAID.

THERE'S A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE LIVED SINCE AUGUST OF 2021.

AND FRANKLY BEFORE THAT, WITH THIS KIND OF, UM, HEALTH AND SAFETY, IT'S NOT JUST A VISUAL ISSUE, IT'S A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.

UM, AND SO I I HAVE NO MORE TOLERANCE.

WELL, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S, UH, OUR LIFE SAVINGS.

I AND I, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THAT.

BUT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO PRESERVE YOUR, AND WE HAVE A SON THAT'S, AND WE HAVE A SON THAT'S MENTALLY ILL.

I, I JUST TOLD YOU EARLIER, I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOUR SITUATION.

YOU NEED TO RECTIFY IT.

YOU'VE PROMISED US FOR OVER THREE YEARS IT WOULD BE RECTIFIED.

AND WE'VE GONE BACK TO THE EXACT SAME SITUATION.

SO I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU HOW TO MANAGE YOUR LIFE SAVINGS OR YOUR PROPERTY AND PRESERVE THAT VALUE.

BUT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF RESIDENTS IN WARD THREE, WE'RE DONE.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

AND IT LOOKS HORRIBLE AND AWFUL.

THEN IT GETS CLEANED UP.

AND YOU'VE APPEARED BEFORE HERE MANY TIMES BEFORE PROMISING THINGS.

NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED.

WE'RE IN THE SAME SPOT, IF NOT WORSE.

SO I'M READY TO DECLARE THIS A PUBLIC NUISANCE AGAIN.

AND, AND I, I'M TIRED OF SPENDING HOURS OF TIME DEALING WITH THIS.

AND THE RESIDENTS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS AND THE RESOURCES THAT THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS SPENT ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

IT'S ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT GOOD STEWARDSHIP.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF HE WAS YOUR SON? I WOULD SELL THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD SELL THE PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY HAS A $75,000 FEDERAL TAX LIEN AGAINST IT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE STILL IN DISPUTE WITH.

YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME.

I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF HE WAS YOUR SON? HE WOULD NOT BE LIVING IN THE HOUSE.

AND WHEN I TOLD YOU TWO YEARS AGO THAT HE WOULDN'T BE LIVING IN THE HOUSE, I WOULDN'T HAVE LET HIM BACK IN.

YOU TOLD US ALSO YOU WERE GONNA CLEAN IT UP AND SELL THE PROPERTY.

YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

WE WERE EXPECTING THIS FEDERAL LIEN TO BE RESOLVED BY NOW.

I'M SORRY, BUT I DIDN'T CREATE THE SITUATION.

BUT I AM ELECTED BY OFFICIALS, I MEAN BY RESIDENCE TO DEAL WITH IT.

I I DIDN'T CREATE THIS PROBLEM.

SO YOU WANT TO HAVE A VACANT LOT THERE WITH THE TREES CUT DOWN AND, AND A SLAB FOR THE DRIVEWAY AND NOTHING ELSE.

AND A I'D TO HAVE CHARLES, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A HOME WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE SAFELY IN THE NEIGHBOR'S DON'T HAS MY PHONE NUMBER.

HE HAS YET TO CALL ME.

WE'VE BEEN NEIGHBORS FOR 32 YEARS.

I'VE TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.

YEAH, I'VE TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS A LOT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO I AM SORRY FOR WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AND WHAT YOUR SON'S GOING THROUGH.

AND I DO PRAY AND HOPE THAT HE GETS THE RESOURCES THAT HE NEEDS TO.

WE, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE BEEN GETTING HIM RESOURCES.

WE'RE IN THE EXACT SAME CYCLE WE'VE BEEN IN FOR FOUR YEARS.

ON A SINCE HE WAS YOU, WHAT, TWO YEARS OLD.

WHAT? BUT, BUT I, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT, YOU'VE SEEN THE PICTURES.

YOU'VE SEEN WHAT? THE CITY, HE BREAKS INTO OUR HOUSE AND CHANGES THE LOCKS.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE A LOCK, UH, A KEY TO THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT WOULD YOU, YOU ASKED ME WHAT I WOULD DO.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE SITTING HERE? WHAT WOULD I DO? WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE SITTING IN THIS CHAIRS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS? YOU ASKED WHAT I WOULD DO IN YOUR SITUATION.

I TOLD YOU.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN MINE? WHAT WOULD I DO? AS LONG AS I SEE THAT THERE'S PROGRESS BEING MADE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE.

THERE'S NOT PROGRESS.

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I DON'T, I DON'T, WELL, I TOWN A LOT OF THAT TIME ON THE ROAD.

IT'S YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

MY WIFE WOULDN'T EVEN COME UP AND CHECK ON THE PROPERTY WHEN I WAS OUT OF, OUT OF TOWN.

I, I'M SORRY.

BUT IT, I DIDN'T CREATE THE SITUATION, BUT I AM GOING TO ADDRESS IT.

WELL, YOU, YOU HAVE ONE VOICE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE CITY OF EDMOND GOING FORWARD.

UH, AS LONG AS I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THAT I'M MOVING BACK IN, I'VE NEVER SAID I WAS MOVING BACK IN.

I AM PERSONALLY MOVING BACK IN TOMORROW TO THE PROPERTY.

AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE PROPERTY WILL NOT BE IN THE CONDITION IT'S BEEN IN GOING FORWARD.

YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES RIGHT NOW.

IT'S PERFECTLY CLEAN AND IT WILL STAY THAT WAY.

AND I'LL, UNTIL MY DEATH, WHICH I ALMOST DIED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, HAD QUADRUPLE BYPASS SURGERY UNTIL MY DEATH, THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT PROPERTY HAVING ANY TRASH, ANYTHING OUTSIDE, UH, GOING FORWARD.

AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT I'M GIVING YOU MY WORD OF HONOR.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

OKAY? YOU'VE GIVEN ME YOUR WORD PRIOR.

I HAVE NOT TOLD, HAVEN'T AB INVITED AND YOU MOVING BACK INTO THE PROPERTY.

UH, BUT I AM TOMORROW, AND THAT'S WHEN I'M DOING TO TRY TO SAVE OUR, OUR, OUR PROPERTY.

AND AS SOON AS I CAN SELL IT, I AM GOING TO SELL IT.

BUT I CAN'T SELL IT WITH A $75,000 FEDERAL TAX LIEN AGAINST IT.

SO THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I HAVEN'T SOLD IT.

THE GUY NEXT DOOR, AARON, THAT, THAT, THAT OWNS THE, THE RENTAL PROPERTY, I JUST SPOKE TO HIM AGAIN TODAY.

WE'VE TALKED FOR FOUR YEARS.

HE GOES, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA SELL ME YOUR PROPERTY? HE'S ANXIOUS TO BUY IT RIGHT NOW.

HE'S TOLD ME THAT FOUR YEARS AGO.

I HAVE THREE BUYERS TO BUY IT.

ALL I GOTTA DO IS MAKE A PHONE CALL AT A REASONABLE PRICE.

AARON'S GAVE ME A VERY REASONABLE PRICE.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, IVAN.

UM, 'CAUSE SEE THIS, SIR, YOU GAVE US THESE PICTURES.

THESE PICTURES AREN'T DATE STAMPED, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

I, THESE, THESE PICTURES AREN'T DATE STAMPED.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN.

THAT WAS ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY STAFF THAT CAN VERIFY THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT TODAY, SIR.

MR. FERGUSON STATED THAT HE SAW OFFICER BALL DRIVE BY THE PROPERTY WHILE HE WAS SITTING IN HIS TRUCK.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY ME.

I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY.

I TOOK A LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY.

I DID NOT PHOTOGRAPH IT, BUT OFFICER BALL DID PHOTOGRAPH THE PROPERTY EARLIER THIS MORNING.

AND ADMITTEDLY, THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CLEANUP DONE ON THE PROPERTY.

BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, MM-HMM.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CONDITION.

IT'S NOT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

IT'S ABOUT THE HABITUAL NATURE OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT EXIST ON THE PROPERTY.

TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE FILE SOMETHING WITH THE COURT OR NOT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT WE WERE GIVEN A SET OF PICTURES TODAY, AND THERE WAS NO VALIDATION OF WHEN THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN.

THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO FIND, SIR.

I'M IN POSSESSION OF THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT OFFICER BALL TOOK THIS MORNING AT, UH, LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 10 50.

I MEAN, THE PATTERN IS, AS IVAN SAID, WHEN WE PUT IT ON AN AGENDA, SUDDENLY IT GETS CLEANED UP AND THEN IT GOES RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME CONDITION.

UM, AND, AND WE CONTINUE TO SPEND CITY RESOURCES, UM, TO ABATE IT, TO ADDRESS IT, TO CITATIONS FOR MULTIPLE PERIODS, RECEIVE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO DECLARE, OH, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DECLARING IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE TONIGHT, AND THEN SAY HOW IT'S ABATED AND THEN YOU APPEAR, APPEAR BACK BEFORE US, AND WE DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE FILING.

CAN YOU GIVE US A MONTH AND LOOK AT IT? UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN, I MEAN, I, I KNOW YOUR GUY'S DRIVING AROUND ALL DAY LONG, CHECKING OTHER PROPERTIES.

CAN, CAN, CAN WE JUST SAY, IF HE EVER COMES BY AND IT'S LIKE THAT AGAIN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING.

CAN WE DO THAT? I MEAN, IS THAT FAIR? I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FIRST PART OF THIS PROCESS IS DECLARING IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

AND THEN WE DECIDE AND, AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE

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UM, MY MY ISSUE IS IT'S THIS HABITUAL CYCLE, RIGHT? THIS IS OVER FOUR YEARS OF THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENING REPEATEDLY.

AND WHEN IT'S OFF OF OUR RADAR, IT GOES BACK AND I, IT'S, IT'S A WASTE OF CITY RESOURCES, UM, TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS IT.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT USE OF OUR RESOURCES.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AND I HAVE TO LIVE WITH A SON THAT'S 45 YEARS OLD THAT HAS A MENTALITY OF ABOUT A 6-YEAR-OLD.

IT'S LIKE DEALING WITH A 3-YEAR-OLD ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

AND I, I TRULY DO FEEL FOR YOU IN YOUR SITUATION, BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE OR NOT.

WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU DO UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEONE WE'RE NOT, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

THAT'S, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITUATION AND DO WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, THE RESOURCES AND THE RESIDENTS.

AND I FEEL LIKE THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY PATIENT AND GENEROUS, UM, ON THIS ISSUE.

AND I, AND I, AT SOME POINT, I MEAN, I, I'VE LOST PATIENCE AT THIS POINT OVER FOUR YEARS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A SEVERAL, THERE'S A PROCESS THROUGH THIS, RIGHT? UH, I LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY IF WE GO THROUGH THIS, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? WHAT ARE THE STEPS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST OF MANY, RIGHT? THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.

SO IF YOU COULD REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY ON THAT.

SURE.

SO THERE'S A DRAFT RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET, MADAM.

WE NEED, SORRY.

THERE'S A DRAFT RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET.

UM, IF YOU PASSED THAT RESOLUTION, UM, DECLARING THIS PROPERTY A PUBLIC NUISANCE, THEN THERE'S A, A BLANK IN THAT SECTION FIVE AND SIX, UM, TO DIRECT THE OWNER TO ABATE THE PUBLIC NUISANCE BY NO LATER THAN A CERTAIN DAY.

AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO INSERT THE DATE TO COME BACK AND REVIEW THOSE CONDITIONS.

SO IF UPON THAT DATE OF RETURN THINGS HAVEN'T GOTTEN BETTER, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD, FILE SUIT, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING, ADDRESS IT HOW YOU SEE FIT AT THAT TIME.

UM, OR YOU CAN DO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME AND DETERMINE THAT THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN ABATED AND TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA.

BUT TO GO FORWARD, YOU WOULD START BY DECLARING IT A NUISANCE BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION.

SO WHAT, WHAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS JUST LIKE WHAT DID BEFORE, WE WOULD, IF WE, IF THE COUNCIL DECLARES THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN ACTION TOOK PLACE WHEN WE FILED IT, UH, AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE LAST TIME, AND SOME THINGS WERE DONE, THEN WE TOOK IT OFF OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE CLEARED THE RECORD, AND GUESS WHAT? IT WENT BACK TO THE BEGINNING AGAIN.

AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS LIKE, WE LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT NEED TO RESTART THAT PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN, AND SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE STEPS BECAUSE YES, SIR.

YOU SAY YOU MIGHT MOVE BACK INTO THE HOUSE TOMORROW TO A HOUSE THAT'S LOCKED AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A, CURRENTLY YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A KEY TO, SO I'LL DRILL THE LOCKOUT TONIGHT.

SO I, I THAT'S FINE.

I'LL DRILL THE LOCK AND, AND, AND PUT A DIFFERENT LOCK ON IT.

THAT, THAT THAT'S FINE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS, IS THAT IT, IT, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL IS THAT THERE'S A DESIRE TO START THE PROCESS AGAIN, BECAUSE THE TRACK RECORD'S NOT GOOD.

AND THE, AND THE, THE THREE OF US TO THIS SIDE OF THE, OF THE DIOCESE HAVE BEEN HERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WITH YOU.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IF YOU NO TELLING, IF, IF YOU GET IN THERE, MOVE IN THERE AND YOU START CLEANING THINGS UP, AND IT MIGHT GET REMOVED AGAIN.

BUT IF NOT, WE, WE, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO THE, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS OF EDMOND AND ESPECIALLY THE, THE, THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE ON ELMWOOD DRIVE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT ARGUING WITH THAT MAYOR.

UH, I'M JUST ASKING FOR ANOTHER CHANCE.

THAT'S ALL.

UH, I'VE AGREED TO MOVE BACK INTO THE PROPERTY, UH, AND STAY THERE.

UH, IF I GO ON VACATION, I HAVE A, A, AN OLDER SON THAT'S RETIRED MILITARY.

HE'S 49, HE LIVES IN THE CITY.

HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME OVER.

HE HAS A PICKUP TRUCK AND A ANOTHER VEHICLE.

UH, HE HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD COME BY IF I EVER HAD TO GO OUTTA TOWN AGAIN.

MY DAUGHTER SAID THAT SHE WOULD ALSO COME BY.

SHE'S, SHE'S IN THE CITY EVERY DAY.

UH, AND SO ALL I'M ASKING IS I, I, I APOLOGIZE TO,

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TO THE DEPTHS OF MY HEART ABOUT THIS.

AND, UH, ALL I CAN SAY IS I'M SORRY.

AND THAT I WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE NOT TO LOSE OUR HOME.

THAT'S ALL.

I'M, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

AND, UH, I'M COMMITTED TO MOVE BACK.

LIKE I SAID, UH, I CAN'T MOVE BACK IN THERE TONIGHT, BUT I WILL BE MOVING BACK IN THERE TOMORROW.

AND YOU'LL SEE MY VEHICLE THERE.

UH, IT'S A GMC ACADIA.

UH, YOU WILL NOT SEE MY SON'S PICKUP OR TRAILER THERE EVER AGAIN AT NIGHT.

HE WILL HAVE TO COME BY THERE TO GET SOME OF HIS THINGS WHILE I'M THERE DURING THE DAY.

BUT THAT WILL BE DURING THE DAY.

HE WILL LOAD THEM ON HIS TRUCK AND TRAILER AND TAKE OFF.

UH, IF NOT, I'LL GET A VICTIM'S PROTECTION ORDER AGAINST HIM.

IT WON'T BE HARD TO GET ONE.

I'VE ALREADY LOOKED INTO IT.

AND, UH, IF HE COMES BACK BY WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, UH, I'LL HAVE HIM ARRESTED.

AND, UH, THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.

I CAN'T, I, I CAN'T LET HIM CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING UP THE TIME.

UH, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UH, I NEVER DREAMED IN MY WILDEST DREAMS GROWING UP OR LIVING THAT I WOULD EVER BE FACING THIS SITUATION.

AND, UM, I'VE ENABLED GREG, UH, WE'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR HIM, UH, TO GET HIM SOME HELP.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN HAVING HIM COMMITTED, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT ELSE TO DO OTHER THAN I, I'LL JUST HAVE TO BE THERE 24 7.

SO HE CAN'T, HE CAN'T COME IN AND DO ANYTHING.

HE'S NOT GONNA BE SLEEPING THERE AGAIN, I'LL TELL YOU THAT HE'S NOT GONNA BE LIVING THERE ANOTHER DAY.

HE'S GOT THREE PLACES TO GO ALREADY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE HE'S GONNA PICK TONIGHT, BUT, UH, NINE 16 ELM ONE IS NOT AN OPTION FOR HIM ANY LONGER, PERIOD.

COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS ITEM? I MEAN, WE, THIS IS NOT A, UH, WHATEVER ACTION WE TAKE TONIGHT IS NOT GONNA BE THE, THE LAST OF IT IS THERE'S A SERIES OF STEPS THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEFORE ANY, UM, I'M GONNA SAY ABOLISHMENT OF THE HOUSE THAT EVER TAKES PLACE.

IT THERE HA THERE'S SOME STEPS THAT, UH, THIS IS JUST STEP ONE.

AND THEN ACTUALLY IT GIVES YOU A WINDOW OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT, AND IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE, WE HAVE OURSELF IN POSITION TO TAKE ACTION.

BUT IF YOU DO DO SOMETHING, UH, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THEN.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO DO TONIGHT.

I'M WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THE COUNSEL ASKS ME TO DO.

SIR, YOU'RE HEARING, YOU INDICATE YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY HEARING.

ARE YOU HEARING WHAT THE MAYOR'S TELLING YOU? YES, SIR.

I UNDERSTAND.

I I, THEY WEREN'T TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE, SO I WAS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME HEARING.

I UNDERSTAND.

I DO TOO.

BUT I'M, I WANT, I'M ASKING YOU, ARE YOU HEARING WHAT HE'S TELLING YOU TONIGHT? YES, I'M HEARING WHAT HE'S SAYING.

PROCEEDING WITH THE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR THE COUNSEL TO, UH, GIVE ME SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WOULD GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY OR AN OUTLINE OF WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO SAVE THE PROPERTY.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD PART OF THAT TONIGHT.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A SERIOUS SITUATION, BELIEVE ME.

YEAH, IT'S A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION.

I LOVE MY SON.

I, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S JUST VERY FRUSTRATING.

IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

IT'S A NIGHTMARE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SEEK SYMPATHY.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU HOW IT IS.

AND AS LONG AS I'M AT THE PROPERTY, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ANY, ANY FURTHER.

SO MAYOR, I THINK PROBABLY WOULD, MY PERSONAL SUGGESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, I EMPATHIZE A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I EMPATHIZE.

HE'S YOUR SON, YOU LOVE YOUR SON.

AND WE GET THAT.

WE COMPLETELY, UTTERLY EMPATHIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION THAT YOUR SON'S IN, HE'S YOUR SON AND YOU LOVE HIM.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THIS CITY AND GIVING YOU ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THIS IS YOUR FINAL AND LAST OPPORTUNITY BY US

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HE HAS ANOTHER LEGAL OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE STEPS TO PROVE TO THE CITY, NOT JUST THIS COUNCIL, BUT TO THE CITY THAT YOU ARE A MAN OF YOUR WORD.

BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS NEXT STEP.

WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS NEXT STEP.

THIS IS MY OPINION.

UM, WE HAVE SPENT THE TAX DOLLARS, MONEY, AND TIME AND RESOURCES FOR FOUR YEARS.

AND I'M ONE OF THE THREE PEOPLE WHO'S BEEN UP HERE.

AND I HAVE EMPATHIZED A HUNDRED PERCENT, A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS, DIFFICULT DECISIONS APPEAR FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS CITY.

AND YOU SAY, WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU ANOTHER CHANCE.

WE'VE GIVEN YOU MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE CHANCES AND YOU PROMISING THAT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

I WOULD LOVE TO BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVED YOU THE OTHER SEVEN TIMES AND YOU KEEP PROVING ME WRONG.

SO IT, IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP TO START THE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES.

AND THEN, SIR, YOU HAVE EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO GET THIS STUFF IN ORDER AND TO PROVE YOUR CASE AND THEN TO APPEAL IT.

IS THAT HOW IT IS? ATTORNEY? SO YOU'LL DECIDE WHAT DATE THAT YOU WANT HIM TO RETURN.

MM-HMM, .

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, REVIEW THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY AND DECIDE NEXT STEPS.

MA'AM, CAN YOU SPEAK? AND YOUR MICROPHONE, I CANNOT A WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO FIRST, YOU ALL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT DAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME BACK.

AND WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THE RESOLUTION.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, YOU'LL REVIEW THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINE NEXT STEPS.

OKAY? SO US, WE HAVE TO PROCEED ON THIS.

WE JUST DO.

THAT IS OUR OBLIGATION TO THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE NEXT DATE THAT THIS COMES UP TO COUNSEL, TO COME BACK AND TRY AND PROVE YOUR, PROVE YOUR CASE.

UM, THAT IS YOUR RIGHT.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE DECIDE IF WE EITHER PROCEED OR NOT.

BUT AS MUCH AS I EMPATHIZE WHAT'S GOING ON, I HAVE A RIGHT AND AN OBLIGATION TO THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

SIR, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEFORE THE COUNCIL? NO, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT AND, UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO MUCH OF THE COUNCIL'S TIME, THE CITY'S EFFORTS, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT, UM, YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T SEE IT IN THE CONDITION IT WAS IN EARLIER THIS WEEK EVER AGAIN.

AND WE HOPE THAT, THAT THE PICTURES, WE WANT, THAT THE PICTURES ARE FROM THREE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON.

SO, BUT WE WANT THAT.

YEAH, THAT IS THAT THE BEST, ULTIMATE OUTCOME.

AND SO, SIR, HERE IS YOUR PRIME OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE US WRONG.

WELL, WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM THEN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO COUNSEL, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM NINE B? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, PROCEED WITH THE ABATEMENT FOR THE RESOLUTION.

THE RESOLUTION.

WELL, THERE'S, TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH TWO DATES IN THERE.

WOULD BE 30 BUSINESS DAYS AND THEN TO HAVE ALL PUBLIC NUISANCE VIOLATIONS CORRECTED.

ONE IS ON SECTION FIVE.

THE OWNER OR OTHER PERSONS RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING OR CAUSING THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ARE HEREBY DIRECTED TO ABATE ALL CONDITIONS, CONSTITUTING AND OR CONTRIBUTING TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE BY NO LATER THAN DATE OF DATE, A YEAR OF, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO COME UP IN SECTION SIX.

THE DAY OF YEAR OF IS A REASONABLE DATE FOR REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONS AND FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO AND CAUSING THE PUBLIC NUISANCE.

AND AT SUCH TIME, IF NECESSARY, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DETERMINE REASONABLE DATES FOR THE COMMENCEMENTS AND TEARING DOWN AND REMOVAL OF C STRUCTURES.

AND FOR COMPLETION OF SUCH WORK.

MS. SAWYER, WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE DATE FOR THE FIRST RESOLUTION? UM, I, I WOULD DEFER TO IVAN AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THAT, SINCE THEY'RE OKAY, MA'AM.

MY, MY RECOMMENDATION

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AND AS FAR AS THE SECOND DATE REFERRED TO IN THE RESOLUTION, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP ALL THE PUBLIC NUISANCE VIOLATIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, NO, NO PUBLIC NUISANCE VIOLATIONS FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS.

AND E IF EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO ARE VIOLATED, UH, AGREEMENTS ARE NOT MET, DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE SUIT IN DISTRICT COURT.

ARE ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? I'M, I'M NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR IF TODAY, UM, ALL OF THE, UM, ABATEMENT WORK IS COMPLETE OR IF IT'S PARTIALLY DONE OR WHAT THE CASE MAY BE.

SO I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION OF 30 DAYS, AND THEN I GUESS KEEPING IT ON OUR AGENDA, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE ISSUE IS IT GETS CLEANED UP AND THEN ONCE IT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA, IT GOES BACK.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A, A, A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH WE SEE THAT CONTINUING TO BE MAINTAINED AND NOT JUST CYCLING.

I, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS OWED MONEY, UM, AND WAS INVOICED OVER 23, I THINK IT'S $2,300, UM, THAT HAS, THAT IS OUTSTANDING AND HASN'T BEEN PAID.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO SEE THAT PAYMENT RECTIFIED WITHIN 30 DAYS.

UM, AND AS WELL AS ALL OF THE, UM, UH, TRASH DEBRIS AND SO FAR FORTH, UM, THAT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW, LEG THE LEGALITIES OF THAT PIECE OF IT.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROCEDURE FOR COLLECTING ON THAT INVOICE.

THAT WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN THIS RESOLUTION.

SO WHAT, UH, WE NEED A, I DON'T HAVE MY CALCULATOR HERE.

THAT WOULD TELL ME WHAT 30 BUSINESS DAYS ARE FROM TODAY.

YEAH, I DO ALL THAT.

MAYOR, UH, YES, SIR.

THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD PUT IT IN THE TIMEFRAME OF THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE.

SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, WE'RE NOT TALKING MEETING DAYS.

WELL, THIS IS WHEN IT HAS TO BE ABATED.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A, A, A MEETING DATE.

RIGHT? MM-HMM.

JUST 30 WORKING DAYS.

JANUARY 7TH IS 30 BUSINESS DAYS.

AH, SO, AND THAT IS A TUESDAY, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

MM-HMM, .

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FOR SECTION FIVE, IS THAT NO LATER THAN THE SEVENTH DAY OF JANUARY, 2025.

AND THEN FOR SECTION SIX IS DOWN THAT DAY OF, OF SAID YEAR, WHICH WILL BE 2025.

WE KNOW THAT.

IS IT A REASONABLE DATE FOR REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONS AND FACTORS? SO IS THAT, THAT THIS DATE HERE WE'RE SETTING FOR IVAN AND HIS TEAM TO GO OUT AND INSPECT? OR IS THAT THE INSPECTIONS ALREADY HAPPEN AND WE'RE COMING BACK FOR A CITY COUNCIL DATE? I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE OBSERVING THE PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THAT TIME.

AND THE DATE IN SECTION SIX WOULD JUST BE THE DAY THAT THEY COME BACK FOR REVIEW IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.

SO WOULD THAT WOULD BE THE COUNCIL MEETING FOLLOWING JANUARY 7TH? NO, IT WOULD BE SIX MONTHS.

OH, OKAY.

BECAUSE I, I THINK THE ISSUE TOO IS, UM, I MEAN I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IT ON EVERY AGENDA FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

'CAUSE WHAT WE NEED TO SEE IS THEN A REPORT IN SIX MONTHS.

HAS IT BEEN MAINTAINED FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME? MM-HMM.

OR HAVE WE GONE BACK AND FORTH? BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH? THAT'S THE ISSUE.

THE THING IS, BUT UM, SIX MONTHS IS TOO LONG.

AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT WE TALKING ABOUT SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY.

SIR? YOUR INTERPRETATION IS CORRECT.

WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK YOUR POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T COME BACK IN TWO MONTHS AND SAY, OH, OKAY, IT'S DONE.

AND THEN MM-HMM, , IT'S OFF THE AGENDA FEBRUARY.

I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO MAINTAIN IN THAT CONDITION QUESTION.

YES.

I, I GUESS THE WAY I WAS HEARING IS 30 DAYS, 30 BUSINESS DAYS, AND THE CLOCK STARTS RUNNING 180 DAYS.

BUT IF ANY TIME YOU, YOU DRIVE BY AND FIND THERE'S AN INSTANCE AND YOU CITE THEM, THAT TRIGGERS COMING BACK.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE HE CONTINUING TO WATCHES IT.

IT COULD HAPPEN DAY 15, DAY ONE 20 MM-HMM.

ALL THE WAY UP TO 180.

IF THERE'S NO, NO, NO, NO OTHER INSTANCES, 180 DAYS, IT COMES BACK 180 DAYS.

BUT IF JANUARY 15TH HAPPENS, WHICH IS AFTER JANUARY 7TH, THAT TRIGGERS, IT COMES BACK TO COUNSEL FOR THE POSSIBLE NEXT ACTION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING,

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IT WOULD BE 30 BUSINESS DAYS TO HAVE ALL VIOLATIONS CORRECTED AND THEN SIX MONTHS GO SIX MONTHS WITHOUT A PUBLIC NUISANCE VIOLATION.

SO IF WE DON'T EVEN MAKE IT THE 30 DAYS, THEN WE'RE IN VIOLATION.

IF, WELL, IF THE PRO, IF, IF, IF THEY, IF THEY CORRECT ALL THE VIOLATIONS WITHIN 30 BUSINESS DAYS, UHHUH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROPERTY.

IF IT GOES BACK INTO VIOLATION AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD BRING THIS MATTER BACK BEFORE THE COUNSEL AHEAD OF THE SIX MONTH PROVISION.

BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD GET A NOTICE OF THAT? YES, MA'AM.

UH, MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT TIME PERIOD, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, MAY, MM-HMM.

MAY MM-HMM.

THEN, THEN THE NEW COUNSEL WOULD TAKE OVER FROM THERE AND THEY DON'T KNOW THE PREVIOUS SITUATION.

THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT IF WE, IF WE GO PAST SIX MONTHS, IF WE GO PAST, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE FREE FOR ALL FOR SIX MONTHS.

NO, IT IS.

HE'S ON WATCH, HE'S ON WATCH THE ENTIRE TIME.

WE WOULD YIELD TO ANY DECISION THIS COUNCIL MADE.

BUT IF WE WANNA SET IT TO SPECIFICALLY BRING IT BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, BEFORE WE ROLL OFF, MAYBE THE LAST MEETING IN APRIL, YOU DO 90 DAYS INSTEAD OF 180 DAYS.

, I WOULD THINK THAT APRIL 28.

BUT I, I DON'T WANT IT, I DON'T WANT THIS ON EVERY AGENDA.

NO, IT'S NOT, NOT THAT WHAT I'M SAYING.

UNLESS THERE'S AN INCIDENT.

CORRECT.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF, IF THINGS COULD GO ONE WAY AND THEN WE WOULD NEVER, POTENTIALLY NEVER SEE THIS AGAIN.

WELL, THAT'D BE AMAZING BECAUSE THAT'D BE NO CITATIONS, BUT YEAH.

CORRECT.

THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.

SO, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU.

UP TO YOU ALL, COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? WHAT DATE WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO BE? WELL, HERE'S MY CONCERN IS IF WE MAKE IT 180 DAYS, AND THEN ON DAY 180 1, DO WE START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN AND HAVE TO DECLARE IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND GIVE TIME FOR ABATEMENT? AND THEN, DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? SO I, I THINK I, I THINK WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

THE SIX MONTHS IS, IT NEEDS TO BE ONCE IT'S ABATED IN 30, 30 BUSINESS DAYS, WHICH SEEMS LONG, KIND OF, BUT, UM, ONCE IT'S ABATED, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH, A LITTLE ACTION AS WE GET IT WORKED OUT.

BUT ONCE WE HIT JANUARY 7TH, WE NEED NO CITATIONS FOR SIX MONTHS IS WHAT I'M HEARING.

WELL, AND UM, I, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, MAYOR, BUT I ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE, UM, SITTING UP AT THIS COUNTER THAT WILL STILL BE HERE IN SIX MONTHS OKAY.

AND KNOW THE SITUATION.

AND, UH, I JUST DON'T WANNA START THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER AGAIN IN 90 DAYS.

SO WE'RE CITATION FREE FOR 90 DAYS, THEN THAT DAY.

92, THE TRASH IS BACK.

, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY? AND IVAN, A QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN YOU SET, TALK ABOUT IT, UM, IN VIOLATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THIS NO, MA'AM.

BEFORE IT'S IN VIOLATION, IT WOULD BE ANY PUBLIC NUISANCE VIOLATION.

SO IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET TO THIS EXTREME.

SO , WHAT, WHAT DATE IS THAT FOR SECTION SIX? COREY, YOU HAD THAT MAGICAL DATE? APRIL 28TH IS THE LAST MEETING IN APRIL.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE, BUT THAT'S, WE, I THINK WE WANNA GO AT FULL SIX.

THEY WANNA GO FULL SIX MONTHS.

SO MAY 25TH WOULD BE SIX MONTHS CALENDAR, 25TH DAY OF MAY OF 2025.

IS THAT WHAT I, NOT TO, NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF JANUARY 7TH.

SO, SO WE NEED TO BE, BE CITATION FREE FROM JANUARY 7TH TILL IT'S LIKE JULY, JULY 7TH OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO JULY, BUT I, I, THERE'S NO MEETING ON JULY 7TH.

THAT'S JULY 14TH.

JULY 14TH.

I THINK JUST FREE TO THAT DAY AND THEN COME BACK ON THE AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING.

RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PUT THE DAY THAT HE'S EXPECTED TO RETURN AND OF COUNSEL.

THAT IS THE SECOND SUNDAY.

SO THEN, YEAH, WHATEVER THAT NEXT MEETING COREY IS JULY 14TH, IS THAT RIGHT? 25.

YES.

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THE 24TH OF JULY.

14TH.

14TH OF JULY, 2020, 2025.

THOUGHT YOU WERE JUDGE.

NO, I'M SERIOUS.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD.

I'M SORRY.

YES, SIR.

YOU'VE HEARD ALL THIS? YES, SIR.

I HAVE.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UM, I'M NOT AWARE THAT THE PROPERTY IS ANY KIND OF A CODE VIOLATION AT THE, I'M NOT ASKING YOU THAT.

I'M ASKING IF YOU'VE HEARD ALL THAT YOU'VE HAD AMPLE TIME.

SIR.

I'VE, ALL, MY QUESTION WAS, NO, JUST A MINUTE.

YOU'VE HAD AMPLE TIME TO TALK, PLEAD YOUR CASE AND HAVE DISCUSSION.

THIS COUNSEL, ALL OF THEM TO MY LEFT HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH YOU AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH THEIR TIME AND MR. SMITH'S STAFF AND HIS DEPARTMENT.

YOU'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

MY QUESTION IS, DID YOU HEAR WHAT YOU WERE JUST TOLD? YES SIR.

AND YOU THINK YOU CAN DO THAT? YES, SIR.

NOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE TOLD THE OTHER THREE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL BEFORE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS AND THEY'VE LET YOU SLIDE AND YOU HAVEN'T KEPT YOUR WORD TO THEM.

THERE'S NO SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE HERE.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES, SIR.

NOTWITHSTANDING YOUR FAMILY PROBLEMS, THE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS AND THE TAX LIENS, I HEAR ALL THAT.

I'M TELLING YOU, THE DATES ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER GOING FORWARD IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.

AND YOU NEED TO GET YOUR BUSINESS TIDIED UP OVER THERE AND MAKE THAT PLACE INHABITABLE AND QUIT MAKING THE NEIGHBORS OVER THERE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES, SIR.

SO WE'RE TIDIED UP HERE.

YOU'RE GONNA KEEP YOUR WORD, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THAT RESULT.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES SIR.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING.

HAVE A SEAT AND WE'LL ATTEND TO THIS.

CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION FROM IVAN? NO.

WE'VE HEARD ALL WE'RE GONNA HEAR OUT OF THAT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CODE VIOLATIONS AT THE PRESENT TIME.

I NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION.

I NEED TO TAKE THAT UP WITH MR. SMITH AFTER THIS MEETING.

WE'VE HEARD QUITE SUFFICIENT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COUNSEL.

UM, SO IN ORDER WE HAVE THE DATES, WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, SIR.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO PUT A RESOLUTION NUMBER ON IT? IT IS 47 DASH 24.

NO OTHER DISCUSSION.

I, MS. PASS.

NEXT WE'RE ON COMMENT ITEM NUMBER 10.

[10. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the Council Chambers lobby.]

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON CITY, UH, RELATED MATTERS, NOT ON AGENDA OR SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

CITIZENS MUST SET UP SIGN UP TO SPEAK EITHER ONLINE BY 3:00 PM OF THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR IN PERSON BY THE START OF THE MEETING.

ALL REMARKS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE MAYOR OR, OR THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS, AND MUST OTHERWISE BE MADE IN COUNCIL.

BE MADE IN THE COUNCIL ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY RULES.

UH, WE HAVE ONE RESIDENT, SAM KEARNEY.

WELL, WE'RE MORE THAN GENEROUS WITH THAT MAN.

UH, I'M ON YOUR SIDE A HUNDRED PERCENT.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO EXERCISE FREE SPEECH AND REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.

I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ZACH AND BLAZE AND CYNTHIA IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

THEY DO A WONDERFUL JOB, JOB WITH BECK AND RUDKIN PARK.

CITIZENS VOTED THEN 61% NO GROWTH.

I WANNA THANK ALL FOUR OF YOU FOR SERVING OUR CITY.

I SPOKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO ABOUT GROWTH IN OUR CITY.

YOU FOUR ARE ELECTED TO POSITIONS OF POWER IN OUR CITY.

AND I THINK YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITIZENS VERSUS THE SPECIAL INTEREST.

IN 2022, I SPOKE HERE.

CHAPMAN AND MOORE WERE THE AND THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE HAYFORD PARK LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WAS AN 81% VOTE FOR NO, WE VOTED TO RAISE OUR TAXES TO BUY THAT LAND TO PAY MORE SO THERE WOULD BE LESS, LESS APARTMENTS, HOUSES, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH OF POPULATION.

LAST YEAR I SPOKE ABOUT THE PRO PROPOSED APARTMENTS AT MEMORIAL AND I 35.

THE

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NOW THE RECENT GO VOTE WAS 71%, 69%, AND 64%.

NO.

YOU FOUR HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS AND NOT THE DEVELOPERS, THE BUILDERS, AND ESPECIALLY NOT THE LOBBYISTS AND THE LAWYERS.

ALL THESE SPECIAL INTERESTS CARE ABOUT ARE GREEN PIECES OF PAPER, NOT ABOUT THE CITIZENS' LIVES OF THE WORKING CLASS AND THE MIDDLE CLASS MAJORITY IN FIVE ELECTIONS.

THE MAJORITY HAS SPOKEN VERY CLEARLY AND THE FOUR OF YOU SHOULD LISTEN AND IMPLEMENT LIMITED GROWTH AESTHETICS.

AND EDMUND USED TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT OBVIOUSLY CARES MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN POWER AND THE PEOPLE WITH MONEY THAN CARING ABOUT THE UGLINESS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ALLOWED IN OUR CITY.

WARD TWO IS WHERE MOST OF THE BATTLE IS GOING ON.

I'VE READ RECENTLY ABOUT CITIZENS AND HOMEOWNERS HAVING DI DISAGREEMENT WITH DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA.

U FOUR SHOULD SHUT DOWN THOSE DISPUTES AND TELL THE DEVELOPER TO PLEASE THE CITIZENS AND THE HOMEOWNERS AND DON'T DEVELOP.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD LIKE THE CITIZENS WANT, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BUILD.

SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT EDMOND'S GONNA GROW BY 40,000 MORE PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS ENOUGH RIGHT NOW ON OUR WATER TOWERS, IT SAYS A GREAT PLACE TO GROW.

I THINK WE SHOULD PAINT OVER THAT.

WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT.

OUR CITY HAS HAD FIVE VOTES IN THE PAST THREE YEARS WITH RESOUNDING THE LANDSLIDE VOTES AGAINST GROWTH.

I ASK YOU FOR IN POWER TO LISTEN TO THE DEMOCRACY VOICES OF OUR PEOPLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

NEXT IS THE ITEM NUMBER 11.

[11. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]

COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, COUNCIL IS THAT HOLIDAY TIME OF YEAR.

AGAIN, PLEASE BE SAFE AS POSSIBLE.

HE'S LOOKING AT YOU, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, CHALLENGE ACCEPTANCE.

I'LL TRY NOT TO BREAK ANY MORE BONES AND, UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT GOING ON WITH LUMINOUS LIGHTING AND A LOT OF HOLIDAY ADVENTURES IN THE AREA, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO BE SAFE, BE WITH YOUR FAMILIES, YOUR LOVED ONES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND HUG THEM OFTEN.

TURKEY TROTS COMING UP.

ARE YOU RUNNING? YEAH, I'M RUNNING FROM THE TURKEY TO THE CRANBERRY TO TO THE COUCH.

TO THE COUCH.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY MEMBERS RUNNING IN IT.

AND THEN WE WILL SERVE THE MEAL OVER AT OUR HOUSE.

BUT THEY WERE LIKE, ARE YOU GOING? I SAID, NO, .

I DON'T THINK I'LL BE RUNNING IN THAT THIS YEAR.

BUT IT'S A SUPER FUN EVENT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT WALKING, RUNNING, GO OUT THERE AND SUPPORT ALL THE FOLKS DRESSED UP IN THEIR FUNNY TURKEY OUTFITS.

IT'S REALLY A SIGHT TO SEE.

LUMINANCE WAS AMAZING FRIDAY EVENING AND, UM, THE WHOLE GROUP WILL COME OUT AGAIN ON DECEMBER 14TH AND HAVE ALL THE FOOD TRUCKS AND THE VENDORS OUT THERE IN SANTA CLAUS AGAIN.

UM, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY OUT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

LIKE CITY MANAGER SAID, FROM FIVE TILL 10, FIVE TO 10 EVERY NIGHT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST OR SECOND.

IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE.

IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY OUT, SPEND SOME TIME WITH THEM, AND ALSO GREAT PHOTO OPS.

UM, THE ICE SKATING RINK IS SUPER FUN OVER THERE.

THERE'S JUST SO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THIS CITY.

UM, JUST TAKE A STROLL DOWNTOWN TO EDMUND AND SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS IN THE EVENING.

IT'S JUST A FANTASTIC TO BE AND A PLACE TO BE, AND A WONDERFUL TIME TO BE HERE AND A WONDERFUL TIME TO LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.

AND I AM THANKFUL FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON, EVERY SINGLE CITY STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, EXTREMELY GRATEFUL.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING ONE AND ALL.

WELL, LET'S REMEMBER THOSE THAT ARE HUNGRY AND HOMELESS.

AND IN NEED.

ILL, UH, LET'S KEEP 'EM IN OUR PRAYERS AND BE GENEROUS TO THEM.

AND, UH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

, HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL.

AND, UH, NEXT TIME WE SEE EACH OTHER BE DECEMBER.

, ANYTHING ELSE? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN WHEN YOU'RE READY TO TAKE IT.

I'M READY.

I SECOND

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PEACE CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE'RE HEREBY ADJOURN.