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[1. Call to Order of the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
OFF.I THINK THESE ARE, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL AN ORDER OUR SPECIAL MEETING TODAY, AND WE'RE GONNA COVER PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS AND PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF UPDATE TO THE DOWNTOWN PARKING STUDY.
AND WE THEN ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION TO THE CITY STAFF ON POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE COMMUNITY ACTION REVIEW COMMISSION PROCESS.
[2. Presentation and Discussion of Downtown Streetscape Design Standards. ]
UP IS THE, UH, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE DOWNTOWN STREET SCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS.MR. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
KEN BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
UM, I'M JUST HERE TO INTRODUCE THE, UH, LEAD CONSULTANT FOR THE, THE PROJECT TO CREATE DOWNTOWN STREET SCAPE DESIGN STANDARDS.
UM, DARREN SCOTT WITH KIMLEY HORN WAS OUR, UH, PROJECT MANAGER, AND HE'S GONNA WALK US THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, THAT WE UNDERTOOK TO CREATE THIS DOCUMENT, TALK ABOUT THE DRAFT, UM, THE DRAFT DOCUMENT ITSELF, AND THEN, UH, ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
GLAD TO BE HERE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE, THE DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE STANDARDS.
UH, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT EXTENTS.
UH, SO WE LOOKED BASICALLY AT THE CORE OF, UH, THE DOWNTOWN AREA, SOME FRITZ OVER TO UNIVERSITY, FIFTH UP TO, UH, THATCHER.
AND THEN, UH, IT'S, YOU CAN SEE THE SHAPE THERE, BUT THERE'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF IN AND OUT ON THE, THE STREETS, BUT PRIMARILY THE, THE DOWNTOWN, UH, STREETS.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT SCOPE.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TASK FIVE.
SO INITIALLY WE, UH, LOOKED AT, UH, THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PLAN.
WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION, WHAT WAS OUT THERE CURRENTLY.
UH, WENT THROUGH A LOT OF VISIONING AND GOALS WITH THE, THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
UH, WORKED THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION ELEMENTS THAT WOULD BE IN IT.
AND THEN, UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH THE, THE DRAFT, UH, DOCUMENT TO, TO DISCUSS.
SO WE STARTED BACK IN, UH, JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, UH, WITH AN INTRODUCTION STAKEHOLDER MEETING.
UH, WE'VE HAD THREE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
THERE WAS ONE JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UH, IN LATE JANUARY.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A PUBLIC INPUT SESSION, UH, IN LATE JANUARY AS WELL, UH, WHERE WE, WE ROLLED OUT THE BOARDS AND SHARED THE INFORMATION.
SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR, UH, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU SAY STAKEHOLDERS, WHO ALL WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE MEETINGS? UH, YOU HAVE A, I CAN'T GO.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE, WE HAD SOME BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, MAINLY PEOPLE THAT, THAT WERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ENTIRE LIST, BUT, UH, ANYBODY ELSE THAT, SO ALL THE, ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS THOUGH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WERE INVITED TO ATTEND.
WELL, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS, UM, THAT WERE PART OF THE, THE, THE INITIAL GROUP, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD THE OPEN HOUSE AND OTHER, UM, TIMES FOR THEM TO ENGAGE.
THE OPEN HOUSE WAS HELD IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FROM LIKE 10 TO TWO, UH, SO THEY COULD SEE IT THERE.
SO EVERYONE WAS INVITED TO THAT.
UH, A LITTLE BIT ON THE DATA COLLECTION AND DISCOVERY.
UH, HERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH WAS IMPORTANT.
I ALSO LOOKED A LOT AT SIDEWALK WIDTH AND UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND CURRENT, UH, LANE USE AROUND THE, THE STREET.
SO, UH, DID A LOT OF, UH, OF, UH, GATHERING OF THAT INFORMATION.
UH, HERE'S A, AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE MAPS THAT WE HAD IN THERE WHERE IT SHOWED THE SIDEWALK WIDTHS, WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN THE YELLOW IS PRIMARILY LESS THAN SIX FEET WIDE.
SO A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN IS, DOESN'T HAVE WIDE, UH, SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME SIX TO 10, AND THEN VERY FEW THAT ARE ACTUALLY 10 TO TO 15, WHICH IS MORE THE PREFERRED WIDTH WHEN YOU LOOK AT A DOWNTOWN, UH, STREETSCAPE SECTION.
UM, SO ON THE VISION AND GOALS, THIS WAS A, A VISION STATEMENT THAT WE WORKED WITH ON, UH, WITH THE, THE STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP, UH, THE STATEMENT AND THEN ALSO THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
SO AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THE STANDARDS, WE WANTED TO LOOK TO EACH OF THESE THREE PRINCIPLES, UH, TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
AND REALLY A LOT OF IT REVOLVED AROUND HOW CAN WE CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE THROUGH THE STREETSCAPE, BUT THEN ALSO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND NOT CREATE A FINANCIAL, UH, UM, BURDEN ON THEM.
UH, BY THE WAY, IT WAS DESIGNED, SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF WEIGHING, UH, THOSE, THOSE SIDES
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AND, AND DEVELOPING SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR BOTH.SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE IN THOSE THREE, UH, PRINCIPLES THERE, UH, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THAT, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE FROM SAFETY, UH, TO COMFORT, UH, THEN THE ECONOMIC VITALITY THROUGH, UH, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND HOW DO PEOPLE ACCESS, UH, THE BUSINESSES EASILY IN AND OUT.
UH, AND THEN CREATING THAT SENSE OF PLACE THAT I TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THAT, THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I'M SURE YOU'LL PROBABLY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS LATER, BUT SO I DON'T FORGET IT.
WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK ON THE BUSINESS OWNERS DOWNTOWN? A LITTLE BIT OF MIX AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES, AND THEN HOW DO PEOPLE GET THERE? WHETHER IT'S CARS, PARKING RIGHT IN FRONT TO PEOPLE COMING VIA PEDESTRIAN, YOU KNOW, WALKING, BIKING, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, YOU KNOW, SOME OPINIONS ABOUT, HEY, I GOTTA, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE, ABLE TO PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS AT ALL TIMES TO, FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS IT TO, IT'S OKAY IF I CAN PARK IN THE, THE GENERAL DOWNTOWN AREA AND WALK TO BUSINESSES OR ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARK AND STAY LONGER BY WALKING BUSINESS TO BUSINESS INSTEAD OF POPPING IN A CAR GOING PLACE TO PLACE.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ACROSS THE BOARD ON THAT AS FAR AS OPINIONS ON HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT, UM, BUT PRIMARILY, OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE IN FRONT OF BUSINESSES IS, WAS THE GOAL.
AND I GUESS WHEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS, I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE SPECIFIC NAMES, BUT MORE KIND OF THE CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CONSIDERED TO BE STAKEHOLDERS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, YEAH.
NO, AND WE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS, SOME DEVELOPERS, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT HAD INTEREST IN THE WEST SIDE, YOU KNOW, OF BROADWAY WHERE IT'S MORE THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, SO HOW THOSE STREETS FUNCTIONS TO THE CORE DOWNTOWN, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING EVEN DOWN BY STEVENSON AND, AND SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL KIND OF STREETS.
UH, SO THIS IS JUST A VISUAL OF SOME OF THOSE V VISION AND GOALS.
SO WE PUT TOGETHER A FEW, UH, PICTURES HERE OF, OF WHAT SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD BE.
AND WE'LL GO INTO, UH, MORE OF THIS IN DETAIL ON SOME OF THE OTHER SHEETS.
BUT, UH, BASICALLY WORKING FROM THAT DOWNTOWN CORE OUT, UH, AND HOW THINGS KIND OF CHANGE A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BROADWAY STREET, UH, GOING EAST AND WEST.
UH, SO HERE'S A, HERE'S A LITTLE, UH, DIAGRAM WHERE WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT SAFETY AND ACCESS FIRST.
SO OBVIOUSLY PEDESTRIANS, CROSSING STREETS, UH, ACCESSING, UH, BUSINESSES.
AND THEN, UH, FROM THERE WE LAYERED ON TOP OF THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE THROUGH WHAT IS THE SENSE OF PLACE THE ECONOMIC METAL AS MENTIONED BEFORE.
SO THERE'S KIND OF WAS A LAYER EFFECT OF HOW WE DEVELOP THIS TOOLKIT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE TOOLKIT, SO THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PIECE OF IT, IT WAS GOOD LIGHTING, UH, PEDESTRIAN BUFFERS, CREATING THAT, THAT SEPARATION FROM CARS AND PEDESTRIANS TO MORE OF THE, THE COMFORT LEVEL THROUGH SHADE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME WIDER SIDEWALKS, UH, TO, TO PROVIDE THAT SAFETY.
SO THESE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT ON THE, THE SAFETY SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, AND THEN WHEN WE GET INTO MORE OF THE EXPERIENCE SIDE, IT'S, UM, IT'S THE ENHANCED PAVEMENT, UH, ENHANCED LANDSCAPE.
SO AGAIN, CREATING, UH, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA STAY AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND THEN WITH THAT CAME, UH, SOME OF THE STANDARDS AS FAR AS BENCHES.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, LOOKED AT, UM, HOW WE WOULD PLACE THOSE.
SO THEY'RE NOT ALL WITHIN THE, THE SHARED SPACE, UH, THE WALKING SPACE, IT'S, IT'S OFF OFFSET.
SO WHERE DO YOU PUT THE BENCH IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE STREET? SO THERE'S INFORMATION FROM BENCHES TO, UH, BALLERS LIGHTING, ALL OF THAT'S IN THE, THE REPORT.
AND A LOT OF THIS, THERE WAS AN EXISTING DOWNTOWN STANDARDS BOOKLET, AND THIS IS MORE OF AN UPDATE TO THAT.
AND THE BENCH AND ALL IS, IS SIMILAR TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED, BUT JUST A LITTLE MORE OF A, AN UPDATED VERSION.
SO, UH, IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW DO YOU LAY OUT, UH, THE, UH, THE FURNISHING ZONE IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT IN BETWEEN THE, THE STREET, UM, AND THEN TO THE, THE FACE OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE HAVE A STRETCH OF PAVERS, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR, UH, THE STREETS.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS WITH AN ANGLED PARKING SECTION VERSUS A PARALLEL.
SO ALL OF THE LIGHTING, UH, BENCHES, THAT KIND OF THING WOULD GO WITHIN THOSE, THAT RED PAVER ZONE.
AND THE REST OF IT WOULD BE STANDARD CONCRETE.
UH, THE ONLY PLACE WHERE IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR PAVERS
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IS BROADWAY, WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY FULLY BRICKED.UH, THE REST OF IT WOULD BE MORE OF AN ACCENT.
UH, SO IT, IT TALKS, UH, ABOUT HOW TO USE THOSE.
UM, IT ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, MIDBLOCK CROSSING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A STANDARD OF HOW, YOU KNOW, A MIDBLOCK CROSSING WOULD OCCUR.
THIS IS A PARALLEL SECTION, UH, BUT, UH, JUST, JUST GIVES GUIDANCE.
SO THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE NOW, IF YOU LOOK AROUND, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BEING DONE.
AND THIS HELPS TRY TO CREATE A CONSISTENT THEME ACROSS THE, THE, THE STREETS.
UH, AND THEN WE ALSO WENT INTO STREET SPECIES OR TREE SPECIES.
UH, SO INTERSECTION TREES, UH, STREET TREES, UH, HOW DO YOU USE 'EM? UH, SOME RECOMMENDED TREE TYPES.
UH, URBAN FORESTRY HAS WORKED WITH US ON THIS TO, TO PROVIDE AT LEAST SOME GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE CAN, UH, EXPAND THIS AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN IT TALKS A LOT ABOUT HOW DO YOU PLANT A TREE WITHIN THIS URBAN ENVIRONMENT? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TREE WELLS ARE LIMITED IN SIZE, SO IT KIND OF LIMITS THE, UH, GROWTH OF THE TREES.
SO WHERE WE'RE ANGLED PARKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SPACES, ESSENTIALLY.
SO MAKING A LARGER SPACE WHERE THAT TREE TO GROW.
AND THEN WHERE IT'S PARALLEL, WE INTRODUCE THE IDEA OF, UH, SOME UNDERGROUND SUPPORT SYSTEMS FOR THE TREES WHERE, UH, IT PROVIDES A, A GROWING MEDIUM THROUGH, UH, FOR THE ROOTS TO GROW IN.
AND IT'S CALLED SILVA, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GO BACK.
IT'S CALLED, UH, SILVA CELL OR STRUCTURAL SOILS.
IT'S, UH, ESSENTIALLY A SYSTEM THAT SUPPORTS THE PAVEMENT ABOVE, BUT ALLOWS THE TREE ROOTS TO GROW BELOW.
UH, SO THERE'S SOME GUIDANCE IN THERE HOW TO, UH, TO DO THAT WITH THE TREES.
AND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TREES, WERE THERE, DID YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MATURE HEIGHT OF A TREE? UH, CURRENTLY DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE SOME MATURE TREES THAT ARE ACTUALLY BLOCKING THE, THE BUSINESSES AND THE SIGNAGE THAT'S ON THE RIGHT FACADE THERE.
AND SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR TREES, BUT THEN YOU, YOU HAVE THE BABY TREE, OR IMMATURE TREE, THEN YOU HAVE THE MATURE TREE.
AND THEN HOW DO THEY ALL MIX DOWNTOWN TO ONE, PROVIDE THE, IT'S GONNA PROVIDE SHADE, BUT THEN IT'S GONNA DO RIGHT.
AND YOU GET IN THAT IN-BETWEEN ZONE OF MM-HMM
SMALL TILL IT GETS HIGH ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN LIMIT UP.
SO, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE TREES, I MEAN, THERE'S NO PERFECT TREE.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE TREES AREN'T GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME, YOU KNOW, VISUAL BLOCKING TO THAT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW YOU USE 'EM, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES THAT ARE SOME MORE NARROW THAN OTHERS.
UH, SOME OF 'EM ARE MORE OPEN.
SO DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT AND WHAT STREETS YOU'RE TRYING OR WHAT, YEAH, STREETS YOU'RE TRYING TO, UH, UH, USE 'EM ON.
YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE SOME, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS WHAT TREE TO USE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS A BALANCE.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO BE VISUAL, BUT YOU ALSO WANT THE SHADE MM-HMM
SO, UM, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO WAIT IT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO GET THOSE TREES BIG ENOUGH TO, TO GET ABOVE THE SIGNS.
UH, AND YOU'LL, THERE'S SOME SECTIONS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE FREQUENCY OF THE TREES TOO.
UM, SO HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE FRAMEWORK.
SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE KEY DESTINATIONS, UH, AND WHAT ARE THE KIND OF THE MAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAIN AXIS ACROSS.
SO, BROADWAY OBVIOUSLY IS THE MAIN ONE.
UH, AND WE LOOKED AT FIRST REALLY MAIN AND FIRST KIND OF EAST WEST FUNCTION, SIMILAR WITH, UH, KIND OF THE, THE PRIMARY AXIS ACROSS.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME SECONDARY, UH, STREETS AS WELL.
UM, SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, THIS HELPED SET THE, THE FRAMEWORK FOR, UH, THIS ROADWAY DESIGNATION MAP.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE GOT INTO THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF STREET SECTION WOULD WORK ON THESE.
AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS AT THE LAST STAKEHOLDER MEETING AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, AS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPS IN AREAS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PREFERENCE SEEMED TO BE MORE OF A PARALLEL PARKING SCENARIO, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
YOU'RE NOT SHINING LIGHTS INTO THE, THE, THE BOTTOM LEVEL OF THE, THE RESIDENCE.
SO SOME OF THIS, AS FAR AS IS IT ANGLED OR PARALLEL, COULD BE, COULD POTENTIALLY BE INTERCHANGED WITH DEPENDING ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT GOES IN.
UH, BUT WE LOOKED AT RIGHT AWAY WIDTHS FROM 60 FOOT, WHICH IS, UH, LITTLER AND SANTA FE ARE THE TWO THAT YOU HAVE AT 60 FOOT, WHICH TO GET THE PROPER SIDEWALK WIDTHS, THAT NEEDS TO BE PARALLEL ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, AND THEN REALLY ON THE 75 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, SAME THINGS, UH, PARALLEL, WHEN YOU GET INTO 80 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, THEN YOU START GETTING
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INTO POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME ANGLED, UH, UH, WITH THAT.SO WE SHOW OPTIONS FOR 80, UH, WITH ANGLED AND PARALLEL, AND THEN A HUNDRED FOOT, WHICH IS, UH, BROADWAY AND MAIN.
UH, WE LOOKED AT SOME DIFFERENT SECTIONS FROM THE FOUR LANE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON BROADWAY WITH ANGLED PARKING TO, UH, SOME ANGLED PARKING WITH A TWO LANE STREET, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY ON MAIN.
UH, AND THEN, UH, LOOKED AT EVEN AN OPTION NORTH ON BROADWAY, A POTENTIALLY A THREE LANE, UH, SECTION OF, OF BROADWAY.
AND THEN, UH, BOULEVARD IS A 120 FOOT RIGHT AWAY WITH A MEDIAN, SO THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARKING, UH, ON THE SIDES AS IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, DOESN'T HAVE IT.
UH, SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT'S, UH, YOU, THE, IT'S 10 AND A HALF FOOT DRIVE LANES.
YOU HAVE YOUR PARKING ON EACH SIDE, AND THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO, UH, TO GET THAT FOUR FOOT AND SIX AND A HALF FOOT, UH, SPACE.
SO ESSENTIALLY 10 AND A HALF FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, ON EACH SIDE WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING, WHICH CURRENTLY SOME ALONG PLACES ALONG LITTLER HAS SOME ANGLED, AND YOU ARE REALLY NARROW ON YOUR SIDEWALK TO THE POINT, IT'S ALMOST NOT EVEN A DA COMPLIANT TO GET THROUGH.
HERE'S AN, UH, A FOOTPRINT AS FAR AS THE PLAIN VIEW.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TREE SPACING, THE, THE, THE LIGHT SPACING, UH, HOW THE INTERSECTIONS LOOK AND WORK.
AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT PEDESTRIAN ZONE THROUGH THERE.
UH, SO THAT'S 60, AND WE WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SCENARIOS, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF GO THROUGH THE, GO THROUGH AS MANY AS YOU WANT WANT.
WELL, AND THERE, THERE'S, I THINK I HAVE THREE OR FOUR EXAMPLES IN HERE, BUT THEN IN THE REPORT, IT'S GOT ALL OF THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO, UH, BUT HERE'S, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE, UH, ENLARGED AREA OF THE 60 FOOT.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, THE 10 AND A HALF FOOT SHARED SPACE, UH, THE PARKING, AND THEN THE, THE, THE DRIVE LANES.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON AS WE GO IN, INTO THE, TO THAT ONE? OKAY.
AND THIS IS THE SAME THING I SHOWED EARLIER, JUST A LITTLE BIT ENLARGED.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE, SEE HOW IT WORKS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHOWING DRIVES, UH, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT ENTRIES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
THERE'S NO PERFECT STREET THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS OUT THERE, UH, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DRIVES GOING THROUGH.
SO SOME OF THAT WILL INTERRUPT HOW THIS WORKS, BUT, UM, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IDEALLY IT WOULD LAY OUT ON THE STREET.
UH, SO HERE'S THE 80 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
SO THIS IS PRIMARILY MOST OF YOUR EAST, WEST STREETS THAT YOU HAVE.
SO WE LOOKED AT A PARALLEL OPTION, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY SHOWING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE CLOSER TO THE CORE OF THE, OF THE, THE DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN AS YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER OUT, WE, WE SHOW SOME ANGLED, BUT HERE YOU GET A LITTLE MORE SPACE.
SO BETWEEN THE, UH, THE FURNISHING ZONE AND THE SHARED SPACE, YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT 20 FOOT OF SIDEWALK.
UH, SO THAT STARTS TO ALLOW YOU SPACE OUTSIDE THE BUSINESSES TO, UH, HAVE THAT, UH, KIND OF OUTDOOR DINING OR SHOPPING EXPERIENCE, AND STILL ALLOW ENOUGH SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO FLOAT THROUGH.
UM, THAT YOU GET THAT BASICALLY A LITTLE OVER 20 FEET ON BOTH SIDES WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING.
AND THEN IT, HERE'S HOW IT, YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW IT LAYS OUT, UH, IN PLAN VIEW.
SO YOU'RE STARTING TO GET MORE, MORE ZONE THERE FOR THE, THE, THE FURNISHING.
SO THOSE LITTLE BLUE SQUARES ARE SHOWING WHAT COULD BE THAT SHARED USE SPACE WITH THE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, BUT NOT THAT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE THAT FREQUENCY, BUT IT JUST SHOWS THAT SPACE.
UH, HERE IS B UH, SO ON AN 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, LOOKING AT ANGLE PARKING.
SO WHEN YOU DO ANGLED, IT TAKES UP MORE REAL ESTATE GOING INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE, THE BUSINESS FROM THE STREET.
SO THIS GOES DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER 10 FOOT, UH, SIDEWALK IN THE FURNISHING ZONE.
IT'S MORE LIKE THAT 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, UH, SIDEWALK SECTION.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOES, IT DOES ALLOW, UH, FOR, UH, THE, THE SIDEWALK IN THE FURNISHING ZONE.
AND WE LOOKED AT THAT MORE AROUND PLACES WHERE, LIKE THE POST OFFICE OR PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GO IN, THEY GO OUT, UH, QUICKER.
UH, WE ALSO, THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS, UH, AT THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPED ON ONE OF THESE STREETS, WOULD THIS BE THE RIGHT SECTION? AND, UH, PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO GO BACK
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TO THAT, A DESIGN WHERE IT'S PARALLEL.BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THOSE STREETS THAT, UH, WOULD MAKE POTENTIALLY SOME SENSE FOR ANGLED.
UH, A LOT OF IT'S DOWN AROUND STEVENSON PARK, WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR PARK ALREADY, UH, THAT'S ANGLED, UH, AND THEN, UH, LIKE HIDEAWAY AND, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT STREET THERE ON FIFTH, UH, SO THIS, THIS SECTION WOULD WORK MORE FOR THOSE KIND OF, UH, SCENARIOS.
AND THEN THIS SHOWS HOW THAT WOULD LOOK, UH, TRYING TO GET THAT SAME TREE FREQUENCY, IS THAT, THAT PARALLEL SECTION.
UH, SO, UH, ABOUT 64 FEET SPACING, THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE DOWNTOWN NOW, UH, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR TREE SPACING.
UH, BUT IT, IT GIVES A, A NICE RHYTHM TO THE, THE TREES AS WELL.
AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS WE LOOKED AT, SO AS I MENTIONED, SO WE HAVE, WE LOOKED AT 60 AND 80, THERE'S ALSO THE A HUNDRED FOOT, WHICH INCLUDED MAIN STREET, UH, AND BROADWAY.
UH, SO THOSE ARE SECTIONS AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE, HOW DO WE DRAIN THESE STREETS? SO IF YOU'RE AT AN ANGLED PARKING SCENARIO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A GUTTER, UH, IN BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE STREET, UH, TO DRAIN THAT SO YOU'RE NOT DRAINING IT OVER TO THE, THE CURB WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT.
UH, AND THEN ALSO LOOKED AT PARALLEL PARKING, UH, AGAIN, UH, DRAINING IT TO THE, TO THE CURB WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DRIVER'S SIDE ISN'T CROSSING THE, THE FLOW.
UH, AND THEN WE, WE HAD SOME ENLARGEMENTS OF WHAT DOES AN INTERCEPT TYPICAL INTERSECTION LOOK LIKE? SO WHERE DOES THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL GO? UH, THE, THE TRAFFIC PATROL BOX, UH, THE STRIPING, THE, THE RAMPS AND EVERYTHING.
UH, THIS GIVES SOME GUIDANCE TO HOW THAT COULD LAY OUT USING THOSE SWEEPING RAMPS.
AND THAT ALLOWS FOR PEDESTRIANS JUST TO KEEP WALKING STRAIGHT AND NOT HAVE TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH, UH, TO KEEP IN THAT, THAT PEDESTRIAN ZONE.
SO YOU CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, NORTH, SOUTH, OR EAST WEST, UH, IT'S ALL A CONSISTENT, UM, FLOW THROUGH THERE.
AND THEN THIS SHOWS THAT WITH A FOUR-WAY STOP.
SO AGAIN, WHERE DOES THE STOP SIGNS GO? CROSSBAR OR STOP BARS, UH, CROSSWALKS, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WITH THAT, THAT WAS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I CAN GO BACK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BACK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT, TALKING ABOUT WHICH ONE, PAVEMENT, UHHUH AND PAVERS AND MM-HMM
UM, I, SO MY CONCERN ABOUT ANY PAVERS, IF IT'S GONNA BE PART OF A, UM, AREA THAT'S GONNA BE USED FOR CONSTANT BACK AND FORTH OF, OF CITIZENS IS, UH, ARE THEY 80? HOW ARE THEY A DA COMPLIANT? AND THEN HOW DOES SOMEONE WHO USES A WALKER FROM EITHER WITH WHEELS OR GOLF BALLS OR WHATEVER, HOW DO THEY GET OVER THOSE, RIGHT? SO WE DID HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE TO USE THEM.
SO WHEN YOU, LET ME GET BACK TO MORE OF THE, UH, SO THE ONLY PLACE THIS SHOWS A LITTLE BETTER, THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE USING 'EM ARE IN THE FURNISHING ZONES.
SO THE A DA PATH IS BEHIND THAT.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NEVER CROSSING THAT UNLESS YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF A VEHICLE AND GOING OVER A CURB.
SO THERE'S NO, UH, YOU'RE NOT CROSSING A PAVER IF YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE A DA RAMP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS A POINTER ON IT OR NOT.
UH UH OH, THAT'S NOT THE POINTER.
YOU KNOW, AADA A'S STALL IS RIGHT HERE, THE ACCESSIBLE PARKING.
SO IF YOU GET OUT OF THAT, YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT INTO CONCRETE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CROSSING OF PAVERS FOR A DA.
UM, THE ONLY PLACE THAT IT SHOWS THAT RECOMMENDED IS BROADWAY, BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY THE WAY IT IS.
SO I MEAN, THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT TOO.
UH, THE INTERSECTIONS, THERE'S NO PAVERS THERE AS WELL.
SO IT'S ALL CONCRETE, UH, FOR A DA.
WAS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, HEIGHT OF, IN CERTAIN AREAS OF DOWNTOWN, YOU PARK YOUR VEHICLE AND THEN THE SIDEWALK IS, IS A CONSIDERABLE STEP MM-HMM
FROM THE ROAD TO THE SIDEWALK? RIGHT.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, AS THESE ARE, ARE REDONE, I MEAN, TAKING ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATIONS, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE SOME SPECIAL CASES WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO LITTLE WALLS AND, AND STEPS TO, TO DIRECT, UH, TO GET THAT, THAT, TO WORK WITH AADA A COMPLIANCE.
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UM, FOR THE MOST PART, IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF IT WORKS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL HAVE A CURB IF YOU'RE PARKING AND YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING IN THAT WAY.BUT IF YOU'RE IN AN A, D, A SPOT, UM, IT WOULD BE ALL, ALL COMPLIANT.
I MEAN, THESE ARE CORE STANDARDS.
WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE SPECIFIC SCENARIOS OF MM-HMM
AND ONE LAST QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW FROM ME IS ON THE PARKING, UH, PARALLEL VERSUS ANGLED.
UH, WE TRIED AN EXPERIMENT ON UNIVERSITY A FEW YEARS AGO FOR REVERSE ANGLED PARKING, AND WHEW,
THE, UH, AND SO I SEE THE SAME SCENARIO GOING FROM AN ANGLE TO PARALLEL.
THERE'S A CERTAIN SKILLSET YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT, UH, IT WAS PART OF YOUR DRIVER'S TESTS, RIGHT.
UH, ME PERSONALLY, I THINK PEOPLE JUST NEED TO TAKE THAT DRIVER'S TEST AGAIN, BUT THE, THE ODDS OR THEM, HOW'S THAT? WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ASPECT, ESPECIALLY OF A COMMUNITY? YES.
YEAH, THERE WAS DEFINITELY DISCUSSION ABOUT PARALLEL VERSUS ANGLE, AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE, THIS, THIS, UH, MAP.
SO YEAH, WE, THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME THAT HAD A PREFERENCE TOWARDS ANGLE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OTHERS MORE TOWARDS THE PARALLEL.
AND REALLY THE BENEFIT OF THE PARALLEL WAS GAINING THAT PEDESTRIAN ZONE, UH, SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING THOSE NARROW SIDEWALKS.
SO THAT WAS, THAT'S A DEFINITELY A, A REAL BENEFIT.
BUT WE ALSO LOOKED AT IT AS, OKAY, IF, IF YOU'RE PARKING AND YOU WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THIS BLOCK, IS THERE AN ANGLED OPTION VERSUS A PARALLEL OPTION? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THE, YOU KNOW, DOES 80 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, DESIGN A IS PARALLEL.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF, YOU CAN SEE HER, UH, FIRST, UH, HAVE THOSE, THOSE ANGLED OPTIONS.
AND THEN YOU GO TO DESIGN B UH, THEN YOU GET INTO MORE OF THE, THE, UH, THE ANGLED.
SO SOMEWHERE CLOSE, THERE'S POTENTIALLY ANGLED PARKING.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ANGLED ON, UH, BROADWAY, YOU HAVE ANGLED ON MAIN, UH, RECOMMENDED.
SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S ENOUGH ANGLED AROUND THAT.
IF YOU DON'T WANNA PARK PARALLEL, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS A BALANCE TO TRY TO GET, YOU CAN ALSO FIT MORE PARKING IN THE ANGLED, OBVIOUSLY.
AND WE DID LOOK AT SOME WITH THE TREE FREQUENCY THAT'S CURRENTLY RECOMMENDED.
UH, AND THAT'S IN DOWNTOWN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANGLED AND PARALLEL.
THERE'S ABOUT A ONE SPACE PER, YOU KNOW, SIDE OF THE BLOCK.
SO, BUT THEN YOU WERE ABLE TO HAVE MORE SHARED SPACE, SIDEWALK SPACE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IT'S, IF YOU JUST ONLY HAD ANGLED WITH NO TREES, YEAH, YOU CAN DEFINITELY GET MORE.
BUT IF YOU STARTED ADDING THAT TREE FREQUENCY, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE MAYOR'S CONCERN.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I SAW IT LOOKED LIKE THE SIDEWALK WAS BRICK PAVERS DOWN BROADWAY.
AND THAT DOES CONCERN ME BECAUSE IT'S UNEVEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF SOMEONE DOESN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, ISN'T IN THAT, I MEAN, IT COULD BE ME, UM, YOU KNOW, TRIPPING OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IT'S A TRIPPING HAZARD.
UM, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING, YOU KNOW, IN AN AREA THAT'S ATTRACTIVE, BUT YET THAT SIDEWALK, RIGHT.
UM, BEING SMOOTH AND WOULDN'T REQUIRE REPAIRS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
I GUESS I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
WELL, WHEN WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT, AT BROADWAY, I THINK THE REASON, THE MAIN REASON IT'S CURRENTLY STILL SHOWN IS BECAUSE IT'S BRICK NOW.
SO ANY, ANY OF THE STREETS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT BRICK, THERE WASN'T A RECOMMENDATION TO DO THAT.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT AND TALK TO STAFF TO SEE, UH, 'CAUSE REALLY WITH BROADWAY, YOU COULD STILL DO THE SAME THING WITH THE FURNISHING ZONE OUT BY THE STREET.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THOSE, IT'S ANGLED.
SO THOSE LITTLE BUMP OUTS WOULD, WOULD BE BRICK, BUT THAT MAIN CORRIDOR WOULD ALL BE, UH, CONCRETE.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND WONDER ABOUT THAT.
BUT THEN I WONDER IF SOME OF YOUR STAKEHOLDERS JUST REALLY LOVE THAT HISTORIC FEEL.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT NO, WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN, MAIN REASONS WE WENT AND WE, 'CAUSE WE ORIGINALLY HAD A FEW, UH, ACCENT BANDS CROSSING, UH, THE SIDEWALK FROM BASICALLY UP TO THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE STREET.
AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND DECIDED, WELL, LET'S NOT PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CROSS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ADA A WISE, SO, RIGHT.
UH, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT BROADWAY.
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30, 35, 40 YEARS AGO, AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK, YOU COULD ROLL THESE SIDEWALKS UP.RIGHT? NOTHING WAS GOING ON DOWN HERE.
THERE WAS BEER JOINT OVER THERE ON THE CORNER, AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
UH, GOT A HUSTLING, BUSTLING DOWNTOWN.
NOW PEOPLE WANTING TO COME HERE AND LOCATE, MOVE OPEN A BUSINESS, SEEM TO BE DOING FINE, DOING BETTER THAN WE'VE EVER DONE.
SO WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? WELL, I THINK IF, HOW DO WE IMPROVE ON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT? RIGHT.
WELL, I WOULD, I'LL SAY IF YOU, IF YOU START WALKING AROUND, I DO WALK AROUND, YES.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT MIDTOWN MANHATTAN, WE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM TO WALK.
WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU SEE THINGS LIKE, I'M TRYING TO THINK ON, I THINK HERD IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU HAVE ANGLE PARKING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PARALLEL, AND IT'S A WHITE, LIKE YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
HOW DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU PARK? HOW DO YOU DO IT? I MEAN, IT WORKS.
BUT THIS PROVIDES SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE TO, HEY, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO REDO A STREET OR IF A DEVELOPMENT'S COMING IN, LET'S HAVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW IT COULD BE DONE.
SO THEN YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT STREET.
UM, YOU KNOW, OKLAHOMA CITY DID THE SAME THING THROUGH THEIR 180.
OF COURSE THEY DID ALL THAT LIKE AT ONE TIME.
UH, THIS, THIS IS MORE OF AS THINGS DEVELOP OUT, GIVE IT SOME GUIDANCE.
UH, SAME THING WITH, UH, JUST THE, THE, THE PAVERS, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU USE 'EM? DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS, OKAY, I WANNA DEVELOP THIS PIECE.
WELL, I'D REALLY LIKE TO PUT VANS ACROSS IT.
WELL, AT LEAST THIS GIVES SOME GUIDANCE AS TO, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD USE THOSE.
THIS IS WHERE YOUR, YOUR ZONES SHOULD BE.
SO, UH, I THINK IT JUST PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE ORDER.
SAME THING WITH THE FURNISHINGS.
YOU HAVE SOME BENCHES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, UP AGAINST THE BUILDING.
SOME THAT ARE OUT, SOMETIMES YOU KIND OF WEAVE THROUGH.
SO ESPECIALLY IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE VISUALLY IMPAIRED.
YOU'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THINGS WHERE THIS PROVIDES A CLEAN ZONE FOR, UH, THEM TO GET THROUGH.
SO REALLY IT'S, IT'S MORE OF KIND OF ORGANIZING WHAT'S THERE, NOT SAYING WHAT'S THERE'S NECESSARILY BAD, IT'S JUST KIND OF ORGANIZATION.
I'M JUST THINKING TOO, I MEAN, THE MORE WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE WALKING AND NOT DRIVING CARS AND EXPLORING THE AREA, I THINK THE BETTER FOR COMMUNITY, FOR SAFETY FOR THE BUSINESSES, UM, BEING MORE WALKABLE.
COMFORT WITH, WITH TREES SHADE.
I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME OF THAT TOO.
BUT, UH, JUST ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.
UM, I'LL SPEAK SOME TO THAT AS, UM, I HAVE TWO LITTLE CHILDREN WHO WALK WITH ME DOWNTOWN A LOT, AND WE HAVE HAD SOME CLOSE CALLS OF ALMOST BEING HIT BY A CAR, OR AS WE'RE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK WHEN SOMEONE'S APPROACHING YOU AS OPPOSED TO PARALLEL PARKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CAR COMING AT YOU AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF SLOWLY, UM, EASING IN THERE.
AND SO, UM, I HAVE ALSO WITNESSED THAT DOWNTOWN IS DOING REALLY WELL.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE HERE OR SOME PEOPLE WATCHING WHO WILL COME BACK TO THIS LATER.
SO COULD YOU, I HAVE TWO THINGS FOR YOU, BUT COULD YOU EXPLAIN, UM, OR PERHAPS CLARIFY THAT THESE STANDARDS ARE FOR, IF THERE IS A CATALYST FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN? COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS CLEAR ON THAT? SO, AND WE, YEAH.
AND WE TALKED A LOT WITH CITY STAFF TOO.
SO YEAH, THIS IS, THIS ISN'T A, A PLAN TO REDO EVERY STREET IN DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S MORE OF, AS I MENTIONED, IF A DEVELOPMENT'S OCCURRING, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THE DEVELOPER WILL DEVELOP THE, THE STREET SECTION TOO, OR AT LEAST THE, THE, THE SIDEWALK OUT.
UM, SO THAT'S GIVES SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE FOR THE, FOR THAT.
OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, SOME SORT OF CITY INITIATED PROJECT, WE WANNA REDO THE STREET, THEN IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE CAN LOOK AT THIS TO, UH, PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE.
UM, TO, TO AGAIN, TRY TO UNIFORM IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE HERE UNDERSTOOD THAT OR ANYONE LISTENING.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU WORKED WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND, UM, YOU GOT INPUT AND FEEDBACK, BUT YOU ALSO, UM, YOU HAVE EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA.
UM, SO JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS OR GUIDELINES MADE THAT WERE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DATA TELLS YOU, AND THEN WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ASKING YOU.
SO, SO YEAH, AND WE CAN TALK, I'M SURE WE CAN TALK BROADWAY AND HOW MANY LANES IT SHOULD BE.
UH, AS FAR AS, CURRENTLY IT'S FOUR LANES.
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A TWO LANE SECTION? UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, AND THERE WAS THERE OPINIONS ON, ON BOTH SIDES.YOU KNOW, SOME FELT LIKE YOU TAKE AWAY A LANE, IT'S GONNA HURT BUSINESSES.
OTHERS FELT LIKE TAKE AWAY THAT MAKE IT A TWO LANE, IT HELPS BUSINESSES.
SO THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO THAT.
AND I CAN LET LUKE TALK A LITTLE BIT.
HE'S A, HE DOES A LOT OF TRAFFIC PLANNING AS FAR AS FOR DESIGNING IT FROM SCRATCH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE, BUT TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
LUKE SCH, MAN WITH THE KIMLEY HORN TEAM, UM, WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THERE'S ALWAYS COMPETING INTEREST IN TRYING TO BALANCE, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS VERSUS PARKING VERSUS MOBILITY.
SO I THINK THAT CAME TO HEAD ON BROADWAY.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG DISCUSSIONS.
UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES TODAY ON BROADWAY.
UM, A FOUR LANE OR A TWO LANE COULD POTENTIALLY FUNCTION.
UM, I, I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE STREETSCAPE STANDARDS WAS LOOKING AT PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS AND HOW DO WE CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT IN THE CONTEXT THAT WE WANT FOR THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE KIND OF OUR EXPERTISE COME IN IS, IS, HEY, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TRADE OFFS AND HOW DO WE BALANCE THOSE WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP? SO THE, SO BROADWAY WAS NOT ONE OF THE ONES THAT YOU PULLED UP IN THE YES, THE 60 FOOT AND 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT, SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS IS TO LEAVE BROADWAY AS, AS IS, IS THAT CORRECT? COR YES.
CURRENTLY IT'S SHOWING A, IT'S THE, THE EXISTING FOUR LANE SECTION.
UH, WE DO SHOW CAMPBELL GOING NORTH AS POTENTIALLY ADDING, UH, MAKING A TWO LANE WITH A, A CENTER TURN LANE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LOSE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC, UH, FURTHER NORTH YOU GO.
AND PLUS THAT'S NOT QUITE, AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE DOWNTOWN.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUILDINGS PER SE.
SO LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT BROADWAY AND WE, I MEAN, WE SHARED SECTIONS OF THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE TWO LANES.
THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE, TWO LANES WITH PARALLEL.
I MEAN, THERE WAS ALL SORTS OF THINGS, UH, ON THE TABLE EARLY ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE WENT THROUGH IT, UH, BETWEEN STAKEHOLDERS AND AND STAFF, WE, YOU KNOW, WENT TO THIS DIRECTION.
SO LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THESE.
SO WAS THERE ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WAY OUR DOWNTOWN IS SET UP? UH, WE HAVE A HIGHWAY BASICALLY CUTTING THROUGH IT ON ED MONROE SECOND STREET.
WE HAVE, UH, LIMITED NORTH, SOUTH STREETS THAT BRING TRAFFIC EITHER INTO EDMOND OR OUTTA EDMOND.
AND THEN WE HAVE A UNIVERSITY TO THE RIGHT THAT ADDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF, UM, CONGESTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, OR, OR ONE STREET THAT'S NOT STRAIGHT RIGHT ON, ON, UM, SECOND STREET.
UM, DID, WAS THERE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC PATTERNS OR ANY, HOW THAT ALL COMES INTO PLAY WITH, UM, THE OVERALL SAFETY OF A DOWNTOWN AREA? SO THERE ACTUALLY IS A CURRENT, UH, RFQ OUT TO LOOK AT 77 MM-HMM
CORRIDOR FROM SOUTH UP TO SECOND STREET, AND THEN GOING OUT EAST.
SO A LOT OF THAT IS PRETTY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF CONNECTION HERE BETWEEN THAT PROJECT AND, AND KIND OF HOW THIS STARTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS LUKE MENTIONED, WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT TRAFFIC COUNTS AS FAR AS WHAT'S ON BROADWAY, WHAT TURNS OFF A SECOND.
UH, SO THAT PLAYED A PART INTO, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE DONE ON BROADWAY.
UH, WE DO CROSS, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER AS YOU GO SOUTH, LITTLER IS A, IS A CROSSING.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, WE, WE LOOKED AT IT AS HOW DO THE STREETS FUNCTION TODAY? I THINK THAT 77 CORRIDOR STUDY IS GONNA LOOK AT IT, A LITTLE BIGGER PICTURE, KIND OF ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE HOW'S THAT OTHER TRAFFIC FLOW HAPPENING AND, AND HOW DO THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WORK TOGETHER.
WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AT SECOND AND BROADWAY.
THAT INTERSECTION NEEDS PROBABLY A, A LOOK.
UH, BUT THAT WASN'T PART OF THIS.
WE WERE MAINLY LOOKING AT THE, THE DOWNTOWN STREETS.
WELL, THIS WAS JUST A, BASICALLY AN UPDATE.
THAT, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? OKAY, THANK YOU.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, I'M GLAD WE ARE HAVING THE HARD CONVERSATIONS AND, AND THAT THE PEOPLE, THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND, AND WE GET IT ALL GET TIED TOGETHER IN SOME WAY.
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UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS REGARDING THIS? OR HAVE YOU PUT A BOW ON THAT? SO WE, I MEAN, WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE ONE, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO.WE, UH, ALSO ARE SCHEDULED PRESENT AT THE URBAN BOARD TOMORROW.
UH, AND THEN FROM THERE IT'S, LET'S GATHER THE COMMENTS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT DIRECTION, UH, DO WE NEED TO GO.
WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC, LIKE OPEN HOUSE SCHEDULED OR, OR IN THE SCOPE.
BUT I MEAN, IF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I MEAN, THERE'S NO, LIKE, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT IF WE NEED TO.
AND YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS WE WOULD INTRODUCE THIS, GATHER FEEDBACK, GO TO THE URBAN BOARD, GATHER FEEDBACK STAKEHOLDERS, PROVIDE COMMENTS, AND THEN LET'S COME UP WITH KIND OF THAT END PRODUCT.
BUT THING CAN COME BACK FOR ADOPTION ONCE ALL OF THAT'S FED INTO IT.
SO WE WE'RE NOT TO THE FINISH LINE YET.
BE PARDON? WE'RE NOT TO THE FINISH LINE TOTALLY YET.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM AND TIME FOR CHANGES IF SUGGESTED OR NEEDED.
I MEAN, WE CAN BE, I MEAN, AS NEEDED.
[3. Presentation and Discussion of Update to the Downtown Parking Study. ]
OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATE OF THE DOWNTOWN PARKING STUDY.I'M DIRECTOR OF URBAN PLANNING AT A DG BLATT.
UM, SO I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BIT COMPARED TO MAYBE WHAT YOU JUST SAW.
UM, THIS WAS, UH, REALLY AN UPDATE TO THE 2020 PARKING STUDY.
SO THAT PARKING STUDY IN 2020 WAS A 200 PAGE DOCUMENT INCLUDED ALL THE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, UH, WAS A MUCH DEEPER DIVE INTO THE SUBJECT OF PARKING.
AND WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK, UM, IN 2023 TO JUST UPDATE THOSE NUMBERS.
AND SO THE DELIVERABLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING I'M PRESENTING ON RIGHT NOW WAS REALLY JUST A 20 PAGE MEMO THAT INCLUDES THE INFORMATION I'M GONNA BE GOING OVER.
SO THAT DID NOT INCLUDE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS.
IT WAS REALLY REFRESHING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS COMMUNICATED IN THAT 2020 STUDY.
SO, UM, WE WERE PART OF THAT ORIGINAL TEAM WITH OUR GOOD FRIENDS AT KIMLEY HORN WHO I THINK MAYBE HAVE, HAVE STEPPED OUT.
UM, SO, UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT 2020 STUDY WAS THAT YOU SHOULD BE GOING BACK AND CHECKING WHAT, UH, HOW YOUR PARKING USAGE IS CHANGING OVER TIME.
AND SO THAT WAS VERY MUCH WHAT WE WERE DOING.
IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT YOU COME BACK THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
SO WE WERE RIGHT IN THE SWEET SPOT OF FOUR YEARS AT THE TIME, UM, OF COMING BACK TO, TO CHECK ON HOW YOUR USAGE CHANGED.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE, THE, THERE WERE A COUPLE REASONS WHY IT WAS TIMELY, UM, TO COLLECT THE DATA AT THAT POINT.
UM, YOU HAD THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF, I THINK, UM, CONCERN THAT WITH THE REMOVAL OF SOME OF THE PARKING FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION, THAT THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY CREATING A STRESS TEST FOR YOUR DOWNTOWN 'CAUSE YOU HAD REDUCED YOUR OVERALL PARKING DEMAND.
UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO ACTUALLY KIND OF CHECK, UH, DURING THAT PERIOD TO SEE, UM, HOW THINGS WERE ACTUALLY PROGRESSING.
SO, UH, THE LARGER BLUE AREA IS WHAT WE STUDIED IN THE 2020 STUDY.
AND THAT SMALLER PURPLE AREA IS WHAT WE, UM, DECIDED TO RETURN TO IN THE 2024 STUDY.
UM, SOME, SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS POINT OUT THAT THE 2020 STUDY COLLECTED THE DATA AT THE END OF 2019.
SO IT WAS PRE COVID AND A LOT OF THINGS CHANGED WITH COVID, ESPECIALLY THE WAY THAT WE USED CERTAIN LAND USES.
AND ONE THAT IS PROBABLY MOST EVIDENT IS THE WAY THAT PEOPLE USED OFFICE SPACE.
UH, AND SO THAT HAS A BIG IMPACT ON YOUR PARKING USAGE ON A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
UH, UH, A CADENCE, UH, YOU'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT INFILL, UH, YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, BUT LOTS OF THINGS, IMPORTANT THINGS WERE HAPPENING DOWNTOWN.
YOU HAD THE ICE HOUSE DEVELOPED IN THAT TIME.
THE LARK, THE HAMPTONS ON EDWARDS AND THE NEW CITY, CITY CENTER, UH, COMPLEX.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAD, UM, A SMALL, UH, CHANGE TO YOUR, UH, ON STREET SPACES WITH THE USE OF OUTDOOR DINING DURING COVID, WHAT WAS COMMONLY KNOWN AS STREETIES.
UM, AND THERE WERE SOME NEW ON STREET SPACES ADDED, UM, ON THE EAST WEST STREETS.
AND SO THAT'S ALL REFLECTED ON THAT MAP.
THE RED IS AREAS THAT WERE, UH, UNAVAILABLE THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM THE 2020 STUDY.
AND THE GREEN ARE PLACES THAT HAD BEEN ADDED, UH, SINCE THE 2020 STUDY.
SO YOU CAN NOTICE A LOT OF THAT RED IS AROUND THAT CITY CENTER COMPLEX.
SO, UM, THE ORIGINAL STUDY, WE IDENTIFIED FOUR STUDY AREAS.
WE ULTIMATELY ONLY COUNTED ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
WE DID NOT COUNT FOUR IN THAT 2020 STUDY.
UM, SO WHEN WE RETURNED THAT SMALLER PURPLE AREA IS WHAT WE COUNTED.
SO IT BASICALLY IS THE SAME AS AREA
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ONE WITH A LITTLE CARVE OUT THERE ON THE NORTHWEST.AND WE DID, UM, GO PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS THERE, DOWN THERE ON THE SOUTHWEST TO INCLUDE THE ICE HOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, OVERALL THERE, THAT TABLE SHOWS YOU HOW YOUR PARKING CHANGED.
UM, IN THAT TIME PERIOD, UH, YOUR ON STREET SPACES DROPPED FROM SIX 15 TO 559.
SO AS A 56 SPACE LOFTS OVERALL AND YOUR OFF STREET, UH, SO THE, THESE ARE NOT YOUR, YOUR ON STREET, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY, UH, PARKING LOTS DROPPED ABOUT 63 FOR A TOTAL OF 119.
NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING IS ONCE EVERYTHING WAS BACK IN PLACE WITH THE CITY CENTER COMPLEX, UH, YOUR 50, YOU'D ACTUALLY INCREASE YOUR ON STREET SPACES BY 15 AND THE NEW GARAGE WIDE, TWO 16.
SO IN TOTAL, YOU'RE GONNA GET A, GET A NET INCREASE OF 112 FOR THAT, THAT SPECIFIC AREA THAT WE COUNTED.
I SHOULD MENTION, I'LL, I, I'LL TRY TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN I REFER TO THE 2020 STUDY, BEAR IN MIND THE DATA WAS COLLECTED IN 2019 AND THE SAME, OUR STUDY THAT WE'RE CALLING THE 2024 STUDY, THE DATA WAS COLLECTED IN 20, UH, 23.
SO IT WAS BOTH AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE JUST HAPPENED TO LAPSE OVER IN THE NEXT YEAR IN WRITING THE REPORT.
SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU DO IS YOU DO, UM, WHAT ARE CALLED OCCUPANCY COUNTS.
SO YOU, YOU WANT TO PICK A TYPICAL WORKING DAY, SO A WEEKDAY, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT UCO WAS IN SESSION.
SO IN, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT LINES HERE, BUT I'M GONNA REALLY TRY TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT TOP LINE.
THAT'S THE DECEMBER, 2019 DATA FROM THE 2020 STUDY.
AND IT SHOWS YOU, UH, WE WENT EVERY TWO HOURS AND COUNTED EVERY SINGLE SPACE TO SEE IF IT WAS BEING USED.
UM, AND SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, EIGHT TO 10, 10 TO NOON, YOU CAN SEE DOWN THE LINE THERE.
AND THEN WE RETURNED AND DID THAT SAME THING IN OCTOBER OF 23.
UH, THE COUNTS IN 2019 WERE DONE ON A WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, AND WE CHOSE A TUESDAY AND WE DID MAKE SURE THAT UCO WAS IN SESSION AND IT WASN'T DURING THEIR FALL BREAK.
SO IF YOU'LL NOTE THOUGH, IF, UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE, THE RED, THERE WE GO.
SO FOR INSTANCE, AT THAT TIME IN 2019, ALL THE STUDY, ALL THE PARKING WAS ONLY BEING USED AT 42% FOR THAT FIRST PERIOD.
EIGHT, UH, 8:00 AM TO 10:00 AM THIS TIME IT WAS 34.
AND I'M GONNA DO THIS QUICKLY, 56, 52, A DECLINE, 57 TO 54 DECLINE, 54 TO 48 DECLINE.
47 TO 43 DECLINE OVERALL 51 TO 46.
SO YOU SAW ACROSS THE BOARD DECLINE IN YOUR ENTIRE PARKING USAGE DURING THAT PERIOD.
THAT'S A PRETTY I IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY.
THIS IS GONNA HELP YOU VISUALIZE WHAT THAT ACTUALLY LOOKED LIKE.
SO THIS IS THE 8:00 AM STUDY AREA.
IF IT'S IN THE BRIGHTEST GREEN, THAT MEANS THAT IT WAS LESS THAN HALF OF THE PARKING SPACES WERE BEING USED DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.
NOW, YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT A LOT OF THE ONES IN EIGHT TO 10 TO REALLY BE USED.
YOU TYPICALLY SEE THAT PEAK PERIOD DURING LAUNCH.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA START WITH EIGHT AND WE'RE GONNA WORK OUR WAY THROUGH.
IF IT'S THAT DARK RED, THAT MEANS IT'S 85% AND ABOVE IN THE PARKING WORLD.
THAT MEANS IT'S EFFECTIVELY FULL.
THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA EXPERIENCE FRUSTRATION WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO USE IT.
THEY MAY HAVE TO WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO BACK OUT.
SO WE JUST COUNTED ANYTHING OVER 85% AS FULL.
SO YOU'LL NOTE, AND THIS WAS A COURT DAY, WE LATER REALIZED, UM, THAT A LOT OVER IN THE SOUTHEAST WAS STARTING TO FILL UP ALREADY AT 8:00 AM BUT GENERALLY YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF GREEN IN THAT EIGHT TO 10, THAT NEXT TIME PERIOD, STILL A LITTLE RED IN THE SOUTHEAST, BUT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE RED ALONG BROADWAY STARTING TO FILL UP AND THE SIDE STREETS ON EITHER SIDE AND THEN ALSO UP HERE ON THE NORTH END.
AND THEN BY THE, THE LUNCH HOUR WHEN YOU'D EXPECT TO SEE, AND YOU DID SEE YOUR HIGHEST OVERALL USAGE.
BEAR IN MIND, THAT WAS STILL ONLY 54%.
THAT'S THAT I, I WANT TO REALLY HAMMER THAT HOME.
PEOPLE ARE, WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT A PARKING PROBLEM, BUT YOU ONLY WERE USING 54% AT YOUR PEAK COUNT, UH, PERIOD.
SO YOU WERE ONLY USING HALF OF YOUR ENTIRE PARKING SUPPLY EVEN WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR, YOUR HIGHEST USAGE.
SO, UH, CERTAINLY EVERYTHING STARTED TO FILL IN AROUND, UH, THE RAIL YARD.
AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, PEOPLE STARTING TO COME IN FOR LUNCH.
UM, ALL THE SIDE STREETS, THE FARMER'S MARKET LOT ACTUALLY START TO SEE THE SOUTHEAST START TO, TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO AFTER LUNCH, TWO TO FOUR, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF IMPROVEMENT.
AND THEN FINALLY FOUR TO SIX AND YOU CAN START TO SEE ALMOST HARDLY ANY RED.
SO I'M GONNA GO BACK REALLY QUICK 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S FUN TO WATCH IT ANIMATE A LITTLE BIT.
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YEAH.UH, WE ALSO CHOSE THIS TIME LA THE, IN 2020, WE DID NOT COUNT ON A SATURDAY, BUT STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GO AHEAD WHILE WE WERE HERE TO COUNT ON A SATURDAY.
AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A REALLY INTERESTING RESULT.
UM, WE WERE IN A, A LITTLE BIT OF A BIND BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAUGHT A SATURDAY IN WHICH THERE WAS HERD ON HERD AND A FARMER'S MARKET.
SO WE WERE, UH, IN OCTOBER AND WE WERE, KNEW THAT WE WOULD EVENTUALLY LOSE A FARMER'S MARKET IN NOVEMBER.
WE DID OUR BEST TO TRY TO WEIGH O OU AND OKLAHOMA STATE GAMES.
WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS A BIG IMPACT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY.
UM, SEE, OU HAD AN 11:00 AM HOME GAME AND, UH, OKLAHOMA STATE HAD AN AWAY GAME AT TWO 30.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE BEST WE COULD DO IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET BOTH.
BUT YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY UNDERREPRESENTING WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE, UH, IF BOTH WERE IN TOWN.
SO, UH, AGAIN, WE, WE DID NOT HAVE A SATURDAY PRI PREVIOUSLY TO COMPARE TO, LIKE I DID ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
BUT 8:00 AM LESS THAN 20% OF THIS TOTAL STUDY AREA INCREASES TO 33 33.
SO YOU'RE ONLY ONLY USING ABOUT A THIRD OF YOUR PARKING THROUGH MOST OF THAT DAY, EVEN DURING THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND THEN AT 7:00 AM ON HERD, ON HERD, YOU SEE YOUR HIGHEST USAGE ACROSS ANY OF THE STUDY AREAS AT 66%.
SO TWO THIRDS OF ALL YOUR PARKING WAS BEING USED AT NOT HERD FOR HERD.
AND WE CERTAINLY SAW IT, I MEAN, PEOPLE WERE PARKING EVERYWHERE, BUT OVERALL THE AVERAGE WAS 38% ON THAT SATURDAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE CERTAINLY SOME, SOME PARKING, UH, FACILITIES WERE BEING USED VERY HEAVILY FIRST THING IN THE MORNING ON THAT SATURDAY.
YOU COULD SEE IT STARTING TO GROW THROUGHOUT THE DAY OR THROUGHOUT THE MORNING.
AND THEN YOU GET YOUR PEAK, UH, OR IT'S NOT, NOT, SORRY, NOT YOUR PEAK, BUT YOU GET, YOU SEE A LOT MORE OF THE RED AROUND THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AT NOON.
UH, AND THEN WE MADE THE DECISION, I SHOULD MAKE A POINT HERE.
WE MADE THE DECISION NOT TO COUNT THE AFTERNOON.
I SH I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT ON THAT FIRST SLIDE.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THE 8:00 AM 10:00 AM 10:00 AM TO NOON, NOON TO TWO.
WE ASSUMED THAT TWO TO FIVE WAS GONNA BE PRETTY DEAD BASED ON, ON WHAT WE WERE SEEING 'CAUSE THE FARMER'S MARKET WAS DONE.
SO WE ACTUALLY CHOSE TO COME BACK AT 5:00 PM AND WE DID TWO MORE COUNTS FROM 5:00 PM TO 7:00 PM AND 7:00 PM TO 9:00 PM SO THAT PEAK USAGE WAS AT 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM AGAIN, SO THAT'S NOON.
AND THEN COME BACK AT 5:00 PM RIGHT BEFORE THE DINNER RUSH.
SO YOU'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF, OF USAGE AS PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO SHOW UP.
UH, THEY'RE PARKING AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN TO, TO THE, UH, ROAD CLOSURES ON BROADWAY.
AND THEN THAT'S THE 7:00 PM WHERE, UH, PEOPLE WERE PARKING, UH, JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE THEY COULD GET.
SO ONE OTHER WAY TO, UH, TRACK THIS SORT OF DATA IS TO DO TURNOVER COUNTS.
SO THE DIFFERENCE WITH TURNOVER COUNTS COMPARED TO, UM, OCCUPANCY COUNTS IS WE, UM, FOCUSED ON JUST A SMALL AREA OF ON STREET SPACES ONLY ON BROADWAY AND THE SIDE STREETS ON EITHER SIDE.
SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE, THE ON STREET SPACES THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD GENERALLY GO TO FIRST.
AND YOU WOULD TYPICALLY DO THIS, UH, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE LUNCH HOUR RUSH, KNOWING THAT'S WHEN YOUR PEAK USAGE IS.
AND SO YOU'RE, THIS IS OFTEN WHERE YOU GET COMPLAINTS IS PEOPLE ARE DRIVING DOWN BROADWAY, THEY CAN'T FUND A SPOT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PLACE.
THEY WANNA STAY AND THEY HAVE TO GO AROUND THE CORNER.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF DISTRICTS LIKE, UH, DOWNTOWN, UM, WOULD, WOULD GET THOSE SORT OF COMPLAINTS.
AND SO IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO SEE, UH, HOW MUCH THOSE ARE TURNING OVER.
'CAUSE IN A HEALTHY DOWNTOWN, YOU NEED THOSE ON STREET SPACES IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESSES TO BE TURNING OVER SO THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN AREAS LIKE THIS IS YOU END UP WITH EMPLOYEES PARKING ALL DAY LONG, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A SIGN THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE TURNOVER THAT YOU WANT.
SO THIS IS, UH, 2020 IS ON THE TOP LINE THERE OF WHAT WE OBSERVED.
UM, AND WE DID THIS EVERY 30 MINUTES INSTEAD OF EVERY TWO HOURS.
SO WE'RE REALLY RETURNING BACK VERY FREQUENTLY TO CHECK TO SEE IF A SPACE IS TURNED OVER.
AND, UH, THE BOTTOM, THE SECOND LINE IS, UH, THAT, UH, 2024 COUNT.
SO, UH, WE DIDN'T DO, UH, NINE TO 10 THIS SECOND TIME, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, IN 2020 THAT WAS, UH, JUST UNDER 50%, AGAIN, JUST ON STREET SPACES IN THE AREA THAT WE COUNTED.
AND LET ME HELP YOU VISUALIZE THIS REAL QUICK BEFORE I GO BACK.
SO THOSE, ANYTHING WITH COLOR IS WHAT WE WERE COUNTING, UM, IN, IN THIS TABLE.
AND I'LL, I'LL RETURN TO THAT GRAPH AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE.
BUT NOTE AGAIN, I WENT UP AND DOWN AND EVERY TIME YOU HAD A DECLINE EVERY ON YOUR, ON YOUR TOTAL OCCUP, ON YOUR TOTAL SUPPLY
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OF PARKING HERE, YOU HAD INCREASES EVERY, UH, TIME THAT WE WENT AND COUNTED.SO 41% JUMPED TO 61%, 49 TO 66, 46 TO 66, 58 TO 66, 51 TO 70 40 TO 64.
SO DOES THAT MEANS THERE'S A DIFFERENT CAR THERE IN THAT 30? I MEAN, I GUESS I'M NOT QUITE THAT THERE WAS UNDERSTANDING THE STATISTIC, IT MEANS THAT THE, THE, THAT A SPACE WAS FULL, THAT ONE OF THOSE REE SPACES WAS FULL.
SO 44 61, YOU SAW YOUR PEAK AT NOON AT 70%.
UM, SO A VERY INTERESTING THING HAPPENING HERE.
VERY, THERE'S A, YOU'RE SEEING A DIFFERENCE WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEEING PEOPLE USE YOUR OFF STREET SPACES LESS AND THEY'RE USING YOUR ON STREETT SPACES MORE.
AND THERE IS, UH, A PROBABLY VERY GOOD REASON FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING MORE VISITORS.
THAT IS A SIGN OF SUCCESS THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM IN, FROM OUT OF, UH, THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THEY'RE NOT LONG-TERM PARKS AND THEY'RE COMING TO USE PROBABLY RESTAURANTS OR, UH, TO SHOP AND THEY'RE LOOKING FIRST FOR THOSE SHORT TERM SPACES.
IN AN IDEAL WORLD, UH, WE WOULD BE CONTROLLING OR MANAGING THOSE ON STREET SPACES A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHICH I'LL GET TO HERE IN A SECOND.
AND ANYBODY THAT WAS GONNA BE HERE LONGER THAN A SHORT TERM VISIT, YOU'D BE ENCOURAGING 'EM TO GO PARK AROUND THE CORNER AND THE, UH, IN THE MARKET, UH, LOT OR ONE OF THE OTHER LOTS THAT THE CITY OWNS, UM, SO THAT THEY, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP THE SPACES IN FRONT OF, UH, LIKE A COFFEE SHOP.
SO THIS IS A WAY TO HELP VISUALIZE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DATA.
THIS IS A RATIO OF CARS TO SPACES.
AND, UH, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT IF IT'S RED, THEN THAT SAW ON AVERAGE A HIGHER NUMBER OF CARS, DIFFERENT CARS DURING THE TIME THAT WE STUDIED.
SO IF IT'S RED, THAT MEANT THAT IT SAW FOUR TO FIVE CARS IN THE TIME THAT WE STUDIED.
WHEREAS GREEN, THERE MAY WE MAY HAVE ONLY SEEN, UH, ONE CAR OR LESS OVER THAT STUDY PERIOD IN THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY.
SO THE RED AREAS ARE PLACES WHERE YOU'RE LIKELY SEEING MORE TURNOVER.
AND THE GREEN AREAS ARE PLACES WHERE HYPOTHETICALLY, SOMEONE COULD HAVE PARKED THE ENTIRE STUDY AREA.
AND THAT I AM, I'M ARGUING IS, IS A PROBLEM IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TURNOVER ON THOSE ON SHEET SPACES, THAT, THAT, THAT ONLY TELLS PART OF THE STORY.
AND SO WE CAME UP WITH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT METRIC ON THIS ONE.
SO IMAGINE IF YOU CAN, THAT ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES HAS 10 SPACES.
SO THERE WERE 80 OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND A CAR THERE, IF YOU SAW.
UM, SO IF EIGHT, IF 73 OF THOSE 80 WERE, UH, WE FOUND A CAR, WE DID A PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
AND SO THE HIGHER THE PERCENTAGE, THE MORE OFTEN WE SAW A CAR DURING ONE OF THOSE 80 STUDY PERIODS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO LOOK AT 2019 AND LOOK AT HOW GREEN AND YELLOW THAT IS COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE SEEING IN 2023.
AND THIS WAS REALLY BORN OUT, JUST I WAS ONE OF THE ONES GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY DOING THE COUNTING.
THERE WERE JUST, WERE MORE CARS.
AND THAT IS, AGAIN, A SIGN OF SUCCESS.
BUT NOTE, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTH END OF YOUR DOWNTOWN, HOW ORANGE AND RED THAT IS BECOMING.
AND THAT IS A, THAT IS ABOUT AS CLEAR INDICATION AS I CAN GIVE THAT YOU'RE SEEING INCREASED COMPETITION FOR THOSE ON STREET SPACES.
AND THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT IT MAY BE TIME TO START TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO ENCOURAGE OR REMIND PEOPLE THAT THOSE ARE FOR SHORT TERM USE.
BECAUSE, UH, UP UNTIL NOW YOU HAVE, HAVE GENERALLY HAD, HAD NO CONTROLS ON 'EM, YOU'VE HAD NO SIGNAGE EXCEPT IN A FEW SPECIFIC LOCATIONS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE OTHER PLACES THAT THEY CAN'T BE PARKING IF THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE.
SHORT TERM IS TWO HOURS, HOURS, WHAT MOST PLACES WILL DO TWO HOURS.
I KNOW IN YOUR PARTICULAR DOWNTOWN THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS ON THREE HOURS.
AND I HAPPEN TO JUST, I, ON THE WAY IN, I PARKED AT ONE THAT HAD A THREE HOUR SIGN IN FRONT OF IT.
MAKE SURE I COVERED EVERYTHING ON THAT ONE.
SO, UM, IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY, WELL LET, LET ME SAY TWO KEY FINDINGS FIRST.
SO WHAT WE LEARNED DURING THIS UPDATE IS THAT YOUR SPECIAL EVENTS HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PARKING USAGE AND THEY CAN DEFINITELY IMPACT SUB AREAS YOUR DOWNTOWN FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY CONTEMPLATE IN THAT ORIGINAL STUDY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TOGETHER, THE DATA COLLECTED IN THE 2024 STUDY COMPARED TO 2020 SUGGESTS PARKING DURING THE WORKDAY DECREASED.
THAT'S AN INTERESTING FINDING, BUT THE TURNOVER OF ON STREET SPACES INCREASED.
AND I HAVE MY OWN THEORIES ABOUT WHY THAT MAY BE, BUT I, I WOULD ARGUE IT, IT MAY BE THAT
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YOU'RE SEEING FEWER PEOPLE COMING INTO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY IN A POST COVID WORLD.SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY USING THEIR OFFICE PARKING, BUT YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE MORE VISITORS COMING IN, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ADDED IN YOUR DOWNTOWN IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
SO IN THE 2020 STUDY, WE, UH, GAVE YOU 24 ITEMS, UM, AND WE BROKE THEM OUT INTO ONE TO TWO YEARS, TWO TO THREE YEARS, AND THREE TO FIVE PLUS YEARS.
SO, UH, WE ARE, IF, IF YOU'RE REALLY BEING A STICKLER ABOUT THOSE TIME PERIODS, WE'RE ACTUALLY ALREADY THROUGH THE SHORT TO MIDTERM RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WE DID GO THROUGH AND WE WANTED TO JUST CHECK PROGRESS ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS.
AND I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW.
BUT, UH, THE DARK GREEN MEANS THAT IT'S COMPLETE.
SO YOU, THE, THE FIRST ONE WAS MINIMUM PARKING RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATIONS THAT VARY BASED ON LAND USE.
SO YOUR STAFF FEELS LIKE THAT ONE IS COMPLETE.
THE LIGHTER GREEN IS THINGS THAT HAVE STARTED.
SO YOU, UH, UH, LET'S SAY NUMBER SEVEN WAS ENHANCED CROSSWALK VISIBILITY.
UH, THAT WAS STARTED AND CERTAINLY THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AS SOME OF THE WORK IN THE KIMLEY HORN WORK THAT WAS PRESENTED RIGHT BEFORE THIS.
AND THEN RED REPRESENTED NO CHANGE.
AND IN SOME CASES SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UH, YOU MAY HAVE ASSESSED AS A CITY STAFF AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE JUST DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO START THOSE.
AND THAT'S A PERFECTLY VALID RESPONSE.
SO TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE, UH, COMPLETED OR WELL UNDERWAY, UH, YOU, UH, ADDRESS THAT REQUIRED PARKING STANDARD AND SOME OF YOUR ZONING CODE REWORK.
UH, YOU GUYS HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DOWNTOWN WAY FINDING.
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT, ESPECIALLY WHEN I TALK ABOUT THOSE OFF STREETS SPACE OR, UH, FACILITIES YOU HAVE OFF BROADWAY.
UH, YOU'VE GOTTA REALLY MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR TO PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON BROADWAY, THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL PARKING IF THEY JUST MAKE A TURN.
AND SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC I KNOW IN YOUR WAY, FINDING DISCUSSIONS PROVIDE ACCURATE AND TIMELY, UH, PARKING INFORMATION ONLINE.
UH, BACK IN 2020, WE GOOGLED DOWNTOWN EDMOND PARKING AND HARDLY ANYTHING CAME UP.
AND, UH, WE SAW SEVERAL INSTANCES WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THROUGH SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION THAT THAT IS STARTING TO FLOAT TO THE TOP OF GOOGLE, THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY STARTING TO BE ABLE TO FIND INFORMATION BEFORE THEY LEAVE ON THEIR TRIP.
UM, YOU DID THE BROADWAY PILOT PROJECT AND YOU'RE CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS AND PLANS FOR A MOBILITY HUB IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT WE THINK YOU MIGHT WANNA REVISIT.
UM, NUMBER THREE IS, UM, DEDICATE, DEFINE EMPLOYEE PARKING PROGRAM AREAS.
I HAVEN'T TALKED TO STAFF IN A LITTLE WHILE ABOUT HOW THAT GARAGE IS GONNA BE USED, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WILL PROBABLY BE FREE, UM, TO USE.
UM, THERE, UH, I I'LL JUST, UM, I'M A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE OF, UH, UH, CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY.
SO I'LL, UH, I'LL USE THEM AS A PUNCHING BAG FOR A SECOND.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CITY EMPLOYEES AT THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY THAT GO OUT AND PLUG THE METER ALL DAY LONG.
UM, AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PARKING IN THE PARKING GARAGE.
THE CITY HAS TRIED TO SET ASIDE FOR THEM.
UH, I CAN IMAGINE IN THIS, UH, GARAGE THAT, UM, THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY, WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT STICKS AND CARROTS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING BEHAVIOR.
UM, THERE IS NO WAY TO ENSURE THAT THAT STAFF OR PARKING IN THAT GARAGE, UM, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT, UM, THEY MAY BE PARKING OUT ON THE STREET.
TAKING AWAY SPACES FROM VISITORS, I GUESS IS THE IMPLICATION OF THAT.
UM, WE ALSO THINK YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT INVESTING IN A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT COULD LEAD OR INCENT OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I AM WELL AWARE THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND, UM, I THINK EVEN ON, UM, THE OXLEY, MAYBE THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP ON THE PARKING FOR THAT.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, WE THINK YOU NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, IN SPECIFIC PARTS OF DOWNTOWN, UH, THE VALUE OF A RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM.
AND WE KNOW THERE ARE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE FELT SOME OF THE STRAINS OF, OF HAVING STUDENTS PARK THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD KEEP ON THE TABLE, UM, AS YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, VERY LAST THING TO CLOSE IS, UH, I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THIS EARLIER, BUT WE DO THINK YOU SHOULD EXPAND, UH, YOUR THREE HOUR TIME LIMITED AREAS WITH ACTUAL SIGNAGE.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT SAYING START CHARGE FOR IT, WE'RE JUST SAYING JUST SOME SIGNAGE TO REMIND PEOPLE, UH, THAT THAT IS, UH, A RESOURCE THAT WE ALL SHARE AND THAT WE SHOULD, UH, BE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON THAT AS PARKERS.
UM, MOST, AGAIN, I MENTIONED, BUT MOST, MOST PLACES DO TWO HOURS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THREE HOURS, UM, HAS SOME, SOME SIGNIFICANCE HERE IN YOUR DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IF YOU ARE GONNA START PUTTING UP SIGNAGE, UH, THAT YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC LAND USES WHERE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, UH, SIMILAR SIGNAGE, BUT ACTUALLY FOR 15 MINUTE PARKING TO FURTHER UNDERSCORE TO VISITORS, UH, THAT THIS IS A REALLY HIGH TURNOVER PLACE THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT,
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UM, AND THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THOSE SPACES ARE TURNING OVER AS FAST AS POSSIBLE OR AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.SO WITH THAT, I KNOW I WENT THROUGH VERY FAST, HAPPY TO GO BACK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND UPDATE FROM BEFORE AND, AND, AND PAST AND PRESENT.
UM, COUNSEL, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
I MEAN, THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FOR ME IS THERE IS PARKING AVAILABLE, UM, ALMOST ALL THE TIME.
IT'S MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF WHERE IT IS.
AND SO I KNOW THE WAY FINDING THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY IS GONNA HELP A LOT TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE PUBLIC PARKING.
UM, AND I, I AM GLAD THAT ONLINE PEOPLE CAN MORE EASILY FIND OUT WHERE AVAILABLE PARKING IS.
UM, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT PARKING AVAILABLE.
SO YEAH, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THIS, UH, AND JUST HELP YOU THINK THROUGH, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, IF YOU'RE IN THAT SOUTHERN PARK AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT LEVEL OF USAGE THAT CAN START TO BECOME FRUSTRATING MM-HMM
UM, FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T OWN YOUR OWN SURFACE LOT TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO MM-HMM
UM, IF, IF YOU'RE SEEING, UH, PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, OR EMPLOYEES, UH, AT NEARBY BUSINESSES, PARKING ALL DAY IN THOSE SPACES, THAT THAT CAN START TO REALLY EAT AWAY AT SOME OF THE CAMARADERIE YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD NEAR DOWNTOWN.
AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA START TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, TO THINK ABOUT THE, THE LENGTH THAT THEY'RE GONNA PARK.
YEAH, I MEAN, I LIKE THE, THE SIGNAGE IDEA OF THE THREE HOUR PARKING AND, YOU KNOW, TO GO OR PICK UP 15 MINUTE PARKING, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
THE FIRST TIME I SAW THESE RESULTS, THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF WAS FOLKS TELLING ME THERE'S NO PARKING DOWNTOWN.
AND BELIEVE ME, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE THE INABILITY TO WALK THAT FAR, AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO WATCH FOR THESE, UM, BUSINESS OWNERS TO HAVE TURNOVER MM-HMM
UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO MIGHT PULL UP SOMEWHERE AND SAY, I CAN'T WALK ANY FURTHER.
THERE'S NO PARKING HERE AND HAVE TO GO HOME.
SO, UM, I JUST ONE PERSON, BUT I, I DO WILL, WILL NOT BE ON BOARD FOR CHARGING FOR PARKING EVER IN DOWNTOWN EDMOND.
UM, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME EVEN IN PARKING GARAGES OR ANYWHERE, I ALWAYS WANNA SAY FREE PARKING, HOWEVER, THE TIME LIMIT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE CRUCIAL FOR ESPECIALLY THOSE SOUTHERN BORDER, UM, EMPLOYEE, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE OR SOMETHING IF YOU CAN'T COME IN THE BACKSIDE OF THE COFFEE PLACE.
UM, IF YOU CAN'T RUN IN AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE AND COME OUT, THEY WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM.
UM, ALSO JUST FOR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT YOU NEED TO GO IN AND DO SOME PAPERWORK OR SUCH LIKE THAT, YOU NEED TO IN AND OUT AND GET ON YOUR WAY.
SO, UM, MAYBE EVEN VARYING SOME OF THOSE TIMES STRATEGICALLY.
SO MAYBE, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE HOUR LIMIT, BUT MAYBE IN CERTAIN AREAS, UM, INSTEAD OF 15 MINUTES, BUT HAVE LIKE 30 MINUTES ISH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN IN OTHER PLACES, MAYBE IT'S OKAY TO GO THREE HOURS AND THEN OF COURSE PICK UP FOR QUICK THE 15.
ACTUALLY OKLAHOMA CITY DID THAT WITH THEIR ORIGINAL METERS.
THEY DID SOME ZONES THAT WERE ONE OR TWO.
EVENTUALLY THEY, THEY SIMPLIFIED IT BY JUST DOING TWO.
WELL, AND I SEE HOW IT WOULD BE MORE SIMPLE.
AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING FRUSTRATED, PULLING IN GOING, AH, IT JUST SAID THREE HOURS HERE AND IT'S ONE HOUR HERE.
UM, I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT MY BUSINESS OWNERS AT THE SAME TIME.
AND, UM, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM TO HAVE THAT TURNOVER.
ONE OTHER THING YOUR COMMENTS TOUCH ON IS WHEN YOU START TO SEE THIS LEVEL OF OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT OF USAGE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING 73%, UH, 64%, 90%.
UH, YOU, YOU, WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE STUBBORN ENOUGH, THEY'RE GONNA SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR A SPACE TO OPEN.
WELL, THAT LEADS TO ADDITIONAL CONGESTION AS WELL, AND CAN LEAD TO ADDITIONAL FRUSTRATION OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH YOUR DOWNTOWN.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER REASON WHY YOU WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE SPACES FREE, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WELL, AND I TRULY AM A PERSON WHO LIKES TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WALK.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF ENCOURAGING WALKING DOWNTOWN TO DECREASE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES THAT YOU NEED TO GET IN AND OUT, AND THERE'S CERTAIN FOLKS THAT JUST NEED TO GET IN AND OUT.
SO IT'S GOOD STUFF, GOOD INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, UM, I SECOND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO WALK.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHEN I GO ON VACATION, I DON'T MIND PARKING FAR
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MM-HMM'CAUSE I KNOW I'M GONNA MAKE, I HAVE A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE OF LIKE, I'M GOING TO LINGER A LITTLE LONGER.
AND, UM, SO I THINK PART OF THIS IS JUST, UM, IT'S AN EXCITING THING THAT WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING TO DOWNTOWN EDMOND AND ALSO JUST A CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF US ARE USED TO PULLING UP IN FRONT OF OUR FAVORITE COFFEE SHOP AND BEING ABLE TO WALK RIGHT IN.
WELL, I'M NOT ABLE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
UM, BUT I THINK THE WAY FINDING'S REALLY GOING TO HELP PEOPLE KNOW OTHER OPPORTUNITY OR OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY CAN PARK.
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S AN EXCITING POINT TO BE AT IN THE LIFE OF DOWNTOWN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS NETWORK OF BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN, THEY REALLY SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
AND IDEALLY WE WANT PEOPLE WALKING A LONG STRETCH OF DOWNTOWN EDMOND AND STOPPING IN EVERY BUSINESS AND, AND INTERACTING WITH THEM IN SOME WAY.
WELL, AND YOU GO TO ANY OTHER COMMUNITY MM-HMM
AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU LOOK FOR A PARKING SPOT AND SAY, OKAY, OH, I CAN PARK HERE AND WALK THE WHOLE DISTANCE.
BUT A FELLOW ADMIN RESIDENTS ARE LIKE, THERE'S NO BARKING.
WELL, THERE IS, IT'S 12 FEET AWAY, BUT
IT JUST IS GONNA TAKE TIME FOR FAST TO GET USED TO.
AND I, I DO WANNA MAKE ONE, ONE MORE POINT ON THAT.
UM, YOU GUYS ARE VERY BLESSED COMPARED TO SOME OTHER URBAN DISTRICTS.
UH, I WORKED ON THE BRICKTOWN PARKING STUDY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF THE SAME ISSUES.
BUT IN THAT, UM, SITUATION, ALL THE PARKING, THE SURFACE PARKING LOTS WERE OWNED BY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.
WHO WERE THEN, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO, WE'RE THEN GOUGING PEOPLE FOR THAT OFF STREET PARKING.
AND YOU GUYS, UH, ARE REALLY BLESSED MM-HMM
AND WERE VERY THOUGHTFUL IN BUYING SOME OF YOUR OFF STREET SPACES.
AND SO YOU'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO, TO PROVIDE THOSE AS PUBLIC PARKING.
AND I, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD REALLY BE PLAYED IN YOUR FAVOR.
IT'S A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
I APPRECIATE IT ALSO WITH THE WAY FINDING, BECAUSE WHEN I GO TO OTHER CITIES, I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHERE TO PARK.
AND NOT THAT'D BE A GUESSING GAME.
AND THE MORE WE CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE WHERE TO PARK, AND JUST LIKE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHEN I COME HERE, I HAVE A FEW PARKING SPACES THAT I ALWAYS PARK IN.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I'M GOING, I'M JUST GONNA PARK.
'CAUSE NORMALLY BY THE DATA THAT YOU SHOW, THAT PARKING SPACE IS, IS EMPTY.
AND, AND IS, IT GOES BEYOND PUTTING THE WAVE FINDING SIGNAGE ON BROADWAY.
UH, WE DID TALK IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY A LOT ABOUT CONTINUING TO INVEST IN YOUR SURFACE LOTS MM-HMM
AND TRY TO MAKE IT AS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR AS POSSIBLE TO VISITORS THAT THAT IS PUBLIC PARKING AND AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AND THAT, THAT GETS DOWN TO, TO PUTTING SIGNAGE IN THE, THE BIG CIRCLE P UM, AS, AS CLEARLY AS YOU CAN.
NICE WALKWAYS, NICE LIT WALKWAYS THAT CONTINUE FROM ON STREET TO OFF STREET TO GET YOU TO THOSE AREAS.
SO WHAT'S NEXT FOR THAT? FOR THE PARKING? 'CAUSE THIS, IT STAFF'S GOING TO STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, WORK WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND OUR CENTRAL EDMOND URBAN DISTRICT BOARD AND DIVA AND, AND SEE WHICH ONES, UH, MAKE SENSE TO PROCEED WITH.
I DO WANNA APPLAUD YOUR STAFF.
ALL, ALMOST EVERY PARKING STUDY SAYS TO COME BACK AND COUNT AGAIN, AND THREE TO FIVE YEARS YOUR STAFF ACTUALLY DID IT.
SO THEY, THESE ARE SOME KUDOS FOR THAT.
[4. Presentation, Discussion, and Direction to City Staff on Possible Changes to the Community Agency Review Commission Process.]
OKAY.OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, UH, TO THE CITY STAFF ON POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE COMMUNITY ACTION REVIEW COMMISSION PROCESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHRISTIE BATTERSON.
I'M THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE COMMUNITY AGENCY REVIEW COMMISSION TODAY, WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD SOME, UH, CHANGES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THE POLICY PROCESS INTO THE ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A JOINT PRESENTATION.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, AND THEN I'M INVITING THE CHAIR TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE, THEY CAME FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN I'LL FINAL, UM, WITH SOME OTHER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, JUST A REMINDER OF WHO, WHO THE CRC IS, OR COMMUNITY AGENCY REVIEW COMMISSION.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN TASKED, UM, TO, UH, REVIEW REQUESTS FROM LOCAL SOCIAL AND COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT AGENCIES.
THEY REVIEW THE AGENCY PROCESS, DETERMINE ACCOUNTABILITY, AND MAKE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AS CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL ONCE A YEAR.
WE, UM, PUT OUT AN APPLICATION AROUND THIS TIME EVERY YEAR.
IT USED TO BE EARLIER IN THE YEAR AROUND THE FALL TIMEFRAME, BUT WE TRY TO ALIGN IT WITH OUR BUDGET, CITY BUDGET REVIEW.
UM, THOSE LOCAL AGENCIES SUBMIT APPLICATIONS, STAFF INTERNALLY PREPARES THE BOOK FOR THE COMMISSION, UM, TO REVIEW AND THEN, UM, HEAR THEIR, UM, THEIR CON UH, I'M SORRY, THEIR APPLICATIONS AND PROGRAMMING.
AND THEN THEY DELIBERATE AND, UH, DRAFT
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A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF BRINGS A, A, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL AROUND THE, UM, APRIL TIMEFRAME.AND THEN WE, UM, ONCE BUDGET IS APPROVED, WE BRING THE CONTRACTS BACK IN JUNE FOR THOSE, UM, PROCESSES.
THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE ARE, UH, UM, BEFORE YOU TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
IT HADN'T BEEN CHANGED IN A FEW YEARS, UM, AND CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU AND HAVE IMPLEMENTED SINCE LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT A SOCIAL AND COMMUNITY AGENCY IS.
WE, UM, HAVE COMPLETED A FINANCIAL SCOPE ON RECIPIENTS TO MAKE MORE INFORMED FUNDING DECISIONS FOR THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND WE PROVIDED OVERSIGHT FOR THESE AWARDS THAT WE GIVE, UM, NOT ONLY FOR TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION, BUT REPORT BACK TO YOU.
WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A MONTHLY INVOICING WITH EVERY AGENCY THAT HAS RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING.
UM, AND WE'VE REQUIRED A QUARTERLY AND WE'LL REQUIRE AN ANNUAL REPORT THIS YEAR FROM THEM.
UM, AND SO WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THAT OVER THE YEAR.
AND OUR HOPE IS, UM, THIS FALL TO BRING YOU FORWARD A, UH, RESPONSE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SERVED AND IMPLEMENTED AND ARE IMPACTED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ON THAT.
UM, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN COOPERATIVE ON THIS.
UM, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A EDUCATION AND TEACHING MOMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
UM, BUT WE HAVE HAD 100% COMPLIANCY SO FAR.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA INVITE THE, UM, CHAIR UP TO DISCUSS SOME OF THEIR INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP FROM HER, UM, WITH, UM, SOME OF THE STAFF INTERNAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THE SWORN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT OUR COMMISSION HAS BEEN DOING.
I AM THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION.
THE COMMUNITY AGENCY REVIEW COMMISSION PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN HELPING TO PROVIDE NEEDED SERVICES AND COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES FOR OUR ADMIN RESIDENTS.
AND WE STRIVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAX DOLLARS.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY, ONE THAT REQUIRES US THE COMMISSION TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN REVIEWING THE REQUESTS AND MAKING FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
WE WORK TO ENSURE THAT OUR PROCESS IS TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.
WE WORK TOWARD MAKING IT MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AS WE PERIODICALLY REVIEW OUR PROCESS AND UPDATE IT AS NECESSARY.
CHRISTY HAS TOLD YOU OF THE UPDATES WE HAVE COME TO YOU WITH IN 2023, AND WE, UH, HAVE SOME OTHER UPDATES TO IT.
WE'VE MET TWICE, UH, SO FAR AHEAD OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN PREPARATION FOR THE 20 25 26 REQUEST.
AND AS A RESULT OF OUR MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS, WE ARE BRINGING FORTH SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS.
THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THAT WE DEVELOPED A NEW NUMERIC SCORING SYSTEM TO BETTER ENSURE AGENCY ELIGIBILITY, COMMUNITY NEED FUNDING AND ALIGNMENT WITH COUNCIL PRIORITIES.
THIS ENSURES THAT WE ARE ALL REVIEWING THE REQUESTS UNDER THE SAME CRITERIA AND THAT THE SAME CRITERIA IS USED FOR EACH AGENCY.
WE MADE MINOR REVISIONS TO THE FUNDING APPLICATION TO ALIGN IT WITH THE NEW SCORING SYSTEM AND TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE RECEIVING THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE THE REQUEST.
AND THEN WE DECIDED TO MEET SEMI-ANNUALLY TO REVIEW THE GRANTEES FUNDING USE AND THEIR PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS TOWARD THE STATED GOALS.
THIS IS A, UM, THE EVALUATION SCORING THAT WE CAME UP WITH.
UM, IT WAS PATTERNED AFTER ANOTHER SIM CITY THAT HAD A SIMILAR PROCESS, BUT WE FELT THAT THESE WERE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AS WE REVIEW, UM, THEIR REQUEST FOR FUNDING TAX DOLLAR FUNDING.
WE ALSO DEVELOPED A LITTLE MATRIX THAT GAVE POINTS TO EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
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AND I JUST WANNA TAKE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY.UM, MEETING TWICE THIS YEAR ALREADY WAS OUTSIDE OF THEIR NORMAL MEETING SCHEDULE, BUT THEY FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MEET AND REVIEW THE PROCESSES.
AND, UM, IT WAS TWO, TWO TO ALMOST THREE HOUR DAYS OF DISCUSSION.
UM, AND EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION, THERE'S NINE MEMBERS.
UM, BUT, UH, ALL MEMBERS TOOK AN ACTIVE ROLE IN THIS.
UM, AND IT WAS A VERY, UH, VERY THOUGHT OUT, VERY LIVELY CONVERSATION THROUGH THIS.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, AND I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THAT AS WELL.
SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED AS STAFF WITH THE COMMISSION AND THEY, UH, AGREE UPON THAT AND WE'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD.
NOW WE HAVE SOME ENTITIES, UM, COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT AGENCIES, AND A SOCIAL AGENCY, UM, ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, TWO OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, LIBERTY FEST AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY MUSEUM, ARE KEY COMPONENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS INTERNAL STAFF, FELT THAT THESE AGENCIES SHOULD ALWAYS GET FUNDING.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY SHOULD NOT BE GOING THROUGH THE CAR PROCESS.
UM, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, THAT LIBERTY FEST AND THE, AND THE MUSEUM BE BROUGHT OUT OF THE, UH, CLARK PROCESS FUNDED.
UM, AND, AND GOING FORWARD, WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS WE WILL BRING A CONTRACT TO YOU TO APPROVE, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE CLARK CONTRACTS.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE'S A CAVEAT WITH THIS.
UM, YOU WILL, WE WILL ALSO BE BRINGING A WAIVER FOR COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS WITH THIS.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING BOTH WITH THE LIBERTY FEST AND WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE MUSEUM, UM, FOR THEIR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD, UM, TO YOU IN THE FEW MONTHS WITH, UM, OUR BUDGET PROCESS.
UM, WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH MUSEUM STAFF ALSO IN RAISING REVENUE.
UM, MS. STEVENS IS VERY GOOD ABOUT GETTING GRANTS AND SHE'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT THAT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE TO MATCH, UM, THOSE, UH, FUNDING NEEDS IN THE FUTURE.
THE THIRD, UM, ORGANIZATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE CLARK PROCESSES, HOPE COMMUNITY SERV, UH, HOPE C HOPE CENTER COMMUNITY SERVICES, UM, THEY PROVIDE OUR UTILITY ASSISTANCE AND HAVE FOR YEARS.
UM, AND THEY USUALLY ARE AWARDED AROUND $170,000.
UM, IT WAS NOTED AS WE WERE GOING OVER, UM, HOW EVERYTHING WAS FUNDED, THAT WE WERE PAYING THIS OUT OF ONE FUND, UH, THE GENERAL FUND TO THE UTILITY FUND.
AND SO WE WERE, CAN THIS PROCESS BE, UM, IMPROVED ANY? SO WE TALKED WITH BOTH TO THE DIRECTOR OF ELECTRIC, GLEN FISHER AND DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES, CHRIS KNIFING, AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO FUND THIS GOING FORWARD.
SO THIS WILL COME OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND.
UM, AGAIN, WE WILL BRING A CONTRACT, UM, FORWARD TO YOU IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AS HOPE CENTER, UH, WILL BE THAT SERVICE PROVIDER.
SAME AS ALWAYS, UM, THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED THIS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, AND THAT ALSO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE BID WAIVER.
REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, I'M SORRY.
SO I DON'T FORGET, CAN YOU TELL WHERE THE, TELL US WHERE THE FUNDING WILL BE COMING FROM FOR THE HISTORY MUSEUM AND FOR LIBERTY FEST? IT WILL STILL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THERE'S STILL, THAT MONEY IS SECURE AND THOSE ENTITIES WILL STILL BE FUNDED CORRECT.
UM, WE THINK THAT THE LIBERTY FEST, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES OF WAY TO FUND THAT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WITH VISIT EDMOND, UM, BUT THAT'S ONGOING DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
AND SO AS WE LOOK AT BUDGET EVERY YEAR, WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE BEING FUNDED.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT GROWING, THEY'RE JUST BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE CART PROCESS.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE OVERALL AMOUNT THAT'S GOING OUT OF, OF SALES TAX DOLLARS, BUT JUST SHIFTING THAT PROCESS? CORRECT.
SO IF YOU LOOK OVER THE ANNUAL OVER, OVER HOW MUCH THAT'S BEEN GIVEN OVER CARC OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE LOOKED AT IT SPECIFICALLY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
WE GIVE ON AVERAGE 1.3 TO $1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL AGENCIES.
BY REMOVING THESE THREE, WHICH IS A ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER 500,000, UM, THAT LEAVES US ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR OTHER AGENCIES, UM, TO APPLY FOR THAT.
THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS LAST YEAR WAS TO, TO IN, UM, PUT IN PLACE SOME TYPE OF PROCESS WHERE WE COULD HAVE MORE AGENCIES APPLY FOR, UM, CART FUNDING.
UM, AND WE INTEND TO DO THAT THIS YEAR, WORKING WITH MARKETING AND PUTTING A PRESS RELEASE OUT ON THE APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND TO ENCOURAGE MORE, UM, FOLKS TO APPLY.
SO WHEN YOU RE SO IF WE WOULD INCLUDE THESE THREE IN THE CART PROCESS, PLUS ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES WE TYPICALLY GIVE TO, UM, WE WOULD BE SITTING AT
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$1.5 MILLION THIS, THIS YEAR.SO THAT LEAVES US, LEADS ME TO MY NEXT POINT, UM, WHICH ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MORE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, YOUR APPROVAL ON AND WOULD BE COMING FORWARD, UM, IN THE, UH, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE ORDINANCE IS CHANGING THE GRANT FUNDING FROM A 3% TO A FLAT 1 MILLION.
UM, AGAIN, REMOVING THOSE THREE ENTITIES FROM THE CAR PROCESS, IT LEAVES AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDS AVAILABLE TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
AND WE FELT THAT THOSE THREE SHOULD ALWAYS BE FUNDED, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE REC, UM, ARE ASKING TO HAVE THOSE REMOVED.
UM, IF THE SALES TAX IS, UM, LOWER THAN ANTICIPATOR CAME BACK LOWER THAN WHAT WE PREDICTED, OF COURSE WE WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THAT FUNDING TO BE REDUCED.
BUT THE TOP MAX WOULD BE $1 MILLION.
UH, LIBERTY FEST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I FIGURE IN 2026 WITH IT BEING THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF OUR COUNTRY, THAT FIGURE WILL PROBABLY GO UP.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL WORK WITH, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH THE ORGANIZATION EACH YEAR, UM, JUST LIKE WE DO, WE WILL WITH THE MUSEUM AS WELL.
UM, IN FACT, I'VE ALREADY KIND OF HEARD A RUMBLING THAT, UM, THEY MAY NEED AN INCREASE THIS YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE WAY THE TERRORISTS MAY ACT ON THEIR FIREWORKS DISPLAY.
WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT THIS YEAR, UM, WE, WE ARE FOR SURE BUDGETING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION EACH YEAR AND WORK WITH THEM ALSO, THE CENT, AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO RAISE REVENUE THEMSELVES AS WELL, UM, OVER THE NEXT FEW.
AND THE CENTENNIAL FOR ROUTE 66 IS IN 26 TOO.
AND THAT WAS, SO THAT'LL BE A BUSY YEAR.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW WE'VE BEEN EMPHASIZING OVER THE YEARS IS WE DON'T WANNA BE THE SOLE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, WE REALLY DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO SEEK OTHER DONATIONS, UM, FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST RELY ON AN AUTOMATIC AMOUNT FROM THIS FUND.
UM, AND SO WITH THIS CRITERIA, I THINK IT WILL HELP THE COMMITTEE, UM, ALLOCATE IT MORE.
UM, BUT I NOTICED ON THE, THE, UH, GRID OR THE EVALUATION SCORING UNDER FUNDING, PART OF THAT IS APPLICANTS HAVE MADE EFFORTS TO SECURE OTHER FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM OR PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE OF BENEFIT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THESE ARE ORGANIZATIONS DOING THAT KIND OF WORK AND DO IT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY THAN THE CITY COULD.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS, BUT I, I REALLY AM HAPPY WITH THE WORK YOU ALL DID AND THAT YOU DID, UM, TO MAKE THIS, I THINK MORE STREAMLINED, ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE AND TO ENCOURAGE THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO DO OTHER FUNDRAISING.
AND THE COMMISSION REALLY TAKES THE TIME WHEN THEY HEAR THE APPLICATIONS, THEY ASK ABOUT THE FUNDING AND PART OF THE APPLICATION.
THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR FUNDING THAT THEY'VE DONE THAT PREVIOUS YEAR.
THEY HAVE TO, UH, SUBMIT THEIR FINANCIALS EVERY YEAR AND AUDITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO FILE AND PROVIDE TO THEIR BOARD.
UM, AND SO THE COMMISSION LOOKS AT THAT AND REVIEWS THAT.
IN FACT, THERE WAS A PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTATION.
SO, UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, DURING THEIR TIME WHEN THEY WERE COMMUNICATING WITH THIS IS ALSO PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND MAYBE OPPORTUNITIES, SOME MAY NOT KNOW AVENUES TO TAKE.
AND THEY FELT IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO KIND OF HELP AND, UM, GUIDE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND I LIKE THE SEMI-ANNUAL REVIEW THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO, THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT'S REQUIRED FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS.
WE ASKED FOR THIS MONEY FOR THIS PURPOSE.
WAS IT USED FOR THAT PURPOSE? UM, YEAH.
AND THERE FINALLY, UM, THERE WAS JUST SOME LANGUAGE, UM, WE, UM, THAT WE WANTED TO, OR THE COMMISSION WANTED TO CLEAN UP, UH, DEFINING WHAT THAT, UH, 5 0 1 C3 WAS.
UM, AND, AND JUST CLARIFYING SOME LANGUAGE.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY PERSONNEL WAS BEING REMOVED, UM, ON THE NON-ELIGIBLE EXPENSES IS WHEN YOU HAVE A PROGRAM, MUCH LIKE ANY IN MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM, THEIR PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE INCLUDED ON HOW THEY PROVIDE THAT PROGRAMMING.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WRAPPED UP IN THEIR PROGRAM SERVICES.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, THEY'RE ONLY PAYING FOR A PERSONNEL SERVICE.
THEY'RE PAYING FOR SOMEONE TO ADMINISTER THAT PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, UM, ELIGIBILITY IN THE, THE ORDINANCE.
SO THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AS WELL.
SO NEXT STEPS, IF, UM, COUNCIL ACCEPTS, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT? WE WILL BE BRINGING AN UPDATED ORDINANCE THROUGH, UM, FEBRUARY 24TH.
AND THE REASON BEING IS, UM, WE ARE GONNA BE KICKING OFF OUR APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, AND NEED THIS ORDINANCE TO BE IN EFFECT BY THE TIME OF THEIR TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS IN APRIL.
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UM, WE WILL BE PUTTING THE APPLICATION, THE RUBRIC, SCORING GUIDELINES, INSTRUCTIONS, EDUCATION, EVERYTHING UP ON THE WEBSITE.UH, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH MARKETING ON DOING A PRESS RELEASE, SOCIAL MEDIA POST, GETTING IT OUT THERE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
AND THEN KARK, UH, PLANS TO HOLD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WE FOUND, UM, THEY ASKED FOR THIS, UM, BECAUSE THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, WE'VE DONE A ONE DAY, FIVE HOUR MEETING.
IT'S A LOT, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
UM, AND SO, UH, THE FIRST MEETING ON APRIL 2ND WILL BE TO HEAR THOSE APPLICATIONS, ASK ANY QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY THE APPLICATION.
THEY WILL THEN GIVE ME THEIR, UH, RUB RUBRIC SCORING, AND THEN I'LL COMPILE THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT, UM, AFTERNOON, THEY WILL DELIBERATE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING.
WE'LL BRING THAT THROUGH DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, TOWARDS THE END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS BY MAY, UH, FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR APPROVAL.
AND THEN ONCE BUDGET IS APPROVED, AGAIN, WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE CONTACTS OR CONTRACTS THROUGH IN JUNE.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HERE TOO, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK IT REALLY, UM, HAS IMPROVED THE PROCESS.
I APPRECIATE THE, UM, INCREMENTAL STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN.
INSTEAD OF JUST ONE GLANCING, UH, BLOW OR, UH, CHANGE IF YOU WILL, UM, THAT WERE, THAT WERE INCREMENTALLY MAKING THE CHANGES AND PUTTING SOME, UH, GUARDRAILS AND BARRIERS UP ON, ON THE WHOLE PROCESS FOR EVERYBODY.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE TAKE OUR JOB SERIOUSLY AND WE ARE GOING TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE SOLIDLY HAVE A FOUNDATION IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
'CAUSE WE ALSO ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS.
I DO, I JUST, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO CHRISTIE FOR, UM, BEING THE STAFF SUPPORT TO CLARK AND, AND THANK YOU TO THE CLARK MEMBERS FOR THEIR PASSION.
I MEAN, THE MEMBERS ON CLARK ARE EXPERIENCE, THEY KNOW ABOUT NONPROFITS AND, YOU KNOW, THE INTENTION IS NOT TO PUT EXTRA WORK ON NONPROFITS.
THEY'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RAISING STANDARDS, KIND OF GETTING THEM READY OR GETTING THEM USED TO WHAT OTHER GRANT MAKERS WOULD ASK FOR.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, TASK THAT, THAT WE ARE, UM, ENSURING THAT OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY NET IS, IS STRONG.
AND SO, UM, I'M REALLY JUST ALSO GLAD THAT THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS A PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
I THINK IT'S REALLY, IT'S WONDERFUL, UM, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK.
AND, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARK COMMISSION FOR, UH, FOR BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF TAX DOLLARS.
THAT'S A REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT ROLE YOU HAVE.
AND JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER NICHOLS DIDN'T MENTION, BUT SHE'S SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE SO SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I LOVE, I LOVE THE PROCESS AND, UM, YEAH, IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL.
SO CLARK CAME UP WITH THESE, UM, SUGGESTIONS AND THE COMMITTEE CAME AT THE END OF THAT.
UM, WAS THERE ANY INPUT FROM, SO THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THESE DECISIONS, WHEN THESE CONVERSATIONS WERE BEING HELD, WERE THERE ALSO CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CURRENT NONPROFITS THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR, OR, OR WITH THE COMMUNITY? YES.
SO, UM, DURING BOTH MEETINGS EARLIER IN THIS YEAR, UH, MS. STEVENS WITH THE MUSEUM ATTENDED BOTH MEETINGS, AND SHE DID GIVE FEEDBACK AT THAT TIME.
I HAVE CONTINUED MY CONVERSATIONS WITH HER.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH LIBERTY FEST AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HOPE CENTER.
SO WE'VE, ALL ALONG, WE HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND, UM, HOW IT'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD, UM, ENSURING THAT THEIR, THEIR PROGRAMMING AND THEIR FUNDING IS NOT GOING TO DECREASE.
WELL, THAT WAS JUST FOR THOSE THREE, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER NONPROFITS? THE OTHERS HAVE
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HAD, UM, WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORT WRIGHTS EVERY YEAR.UM, AND, AND WE STAY IN COMMUNICATION AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US A MONTHLY INVOICE.
AND SO WE STAY IN COMMUN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OUR ORGANIZATIONS.
BUT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND THOSE INCREMENTAL CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE, I HAVE, I HAVE, UM, COMMUNICATED WITH THEM AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR THAT THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED, THAT POLICY HAS CHANGED, PROCEDURES HAVE CHANGED.
UM, AND SO THEY ARE ALL AWARE OF IT.
AND AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE WILL REITERATE THAT IN THE PROCESS WHEN WE SEND THE APPLICATIONS OUT.
HISTORICALLY, COUNSEL, I DON'T, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OUT THERE, BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEONE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS A CONCERN ABOUT THIS, AND I'M WILLING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR A FEW SECONDS TO THAT OR HAVE ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENTS IF YOU OKAY.
MY NAME IS SPOT WEISS AND, UH, VERY INTERESTED IN EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
AND I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO EVERYTHING THAT, THAT, UH, UM, I HAVE ISSUES WITH.
BUT I DID WANNA MAKE A COUPLE, UH, OBSERVATIONS BECAUSE I, I FELT LIKE SOME OF THE INFORMATION, UH, PRESENTED WAS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE OR THAT SHOULDN'T BE RIGHT.
THAT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN WHAT WAS BROUGHT.
UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CAR, SIR? I, I'M TALKED ABOUT THE STREET SCAPE PROGRAM.
AM I OUT OF ORDER, SIR? WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS THE CAR.
WE, WE'VE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN.
NO, WELL, I'M INTERESTED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO WALK OUT OF THE ROOM AND SAY THAT THE MAYOR OR THE COUNCIL DIDN'T LET THEM SAY SOMETHING IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, NOT TRYING TO DO, I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE WRONG, TRYING IS THE WRONG WORD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE OPEN FORUM MEETINGS TO INFORM PEOPLE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH.
SO, YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES, SIR.
UM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE STREET SCAPE MM-HMM
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE PARKING THAT, THAT, UH, WAS REPORTED, I THOUGHT WAS SPOT ON, DID A VERY GOOD JOB ON THE PARKING.
BUT THERE'S ONE PART THAT WAS, UH, WAS NOT FACTORED IN.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THAT.
UM, THE PARKING THAT WAS, WAS, UH, UM, OCCUPIED.
A LOT OF THAT IS CITY EMPLOYEES AND CITY VEHICLES.
ONCE THE, UH, GARAGE IS FINISHED AND THE CITY PEOPLE WILL BE PARKING THERE AND THE GARAGE AND THE VEHICLES WILL BE PARKING THERE, THAT'S GONNA OPEN UP A LOT MORE PARKING.
SO I WANTED TO ACTUALLY ADD THAT PART TO IT.
UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PAVERS.
UM, UH, I PARTICULARLY DON'T HAVE A A CARE WHICH WAY IT IS, BUT THERE WERE SOME COMMENT ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE PAVERS ARE UNSTABLE.
SIDEWALKS ARE ACTUALLY MORE UNSTABLE, IN MY OPINION.
IN THE, IN THE RECENT COUPLE YEARS, THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST THREE TRIPS ON CONCRETE RIGHT IN FRONT OF O FELLOWS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF O FELLOWS.
THAT'S BECAUSE THE TRUE REITS, THE TRUE THE TREE ROOTS, UH, PUSHED THE SIDEWALKS UP.
WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND PAINTED YELLOW MARKERS WHERE IT IS OPEN BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THREE PEOPLE TRIP ON THAT.
SO, UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PAVERS VERSUS THE, UH, CONCRETE, THEY BOTH HAVE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES, AND I WANT TO BRING THAT OUT.
UM, AND, AND THE ONLY REAL CON UM, UM, ISSUE THAT I WANT TO BRING UP IS THAT, AND, AND I WISH THE PEOPLE FROM THE, UM, CONSULTING COMPANY WAS HERE.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS SAY THIS WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY DID THE MOST STELLAR JOB WITH NOTIFYING EVERYBODY.
UM, I HAVE A BIG MOUTH
I GO OUT THERE AND I TALK A LOT.
UM, MOST OF THE PEOPLE I TALK TO, THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE LANDOWNERS, THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND, AND I AM TELLING THEM, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE UP TO ME.
AND, AND I JUST THINK THAT, THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB INFORMING THE PEOPLE THAT THAT IS GONNA BE AFFECTED THE MOST.
THANK YOU FOR THE TWO MINUTES, SIR.
SIR, NO,
UH, THE, I'M CHAIRMAN RANDALL SHADE, CHAIRMAN OF THE HOPE CENTER BOARD THIS YEAR.
WE DID HAVE A CONCERN WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT HOW
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OUR UTILITY REIMBURSEMENT WAS GONNA BE TAKEN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.UH, MET WITH RANDY AND CHRISTIE AND ANDY WITH MY BOARD MEMBER AND DIRECTOR, AND GOT THAT RESOLVED SATISFACTORILY WHERE I HOPE, I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY, GLEN, SINCE, UH,
SO, UH, JUST APPRECIATE, UH, THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US.
THANK YOU, MR. INTERIM, CITY MANAGER.
WELL COUNSEL, ANY, THIS IS A LOT.
I MEAN, THIS IS SOME INCREMENTAL CHANGES THAT WE'RE CONTINUE MAKING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESSES THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN THE CITY, WHICH IS GREAT.
UH, UH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT CLARK AND CHRISSY THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THAT, UH, THAT IT'S NEVER AN EASY TASK.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT THIS IS THIS, IS THAT WE, WHAT WAS THE TERM I HEARD OVER HERE? IT WAS CALLED COMMUNITY SAFETY NET.
I LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE OUT THERE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE HELP THE PEOPLE, UH, AS MANY AS WE CAN THAT ARE IN NEED.
UH, OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT, AREN'T FORTUNATE TO DO THAT OR, OR DON'T HAVE THE, THE WILLPOWER TO DO THAT, BUT WE, WE DO HERE.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.
AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS PLACE A BETTER PLACE.
EVERYONE IN HERE TODAY, EITHER STAFF OR THE, OR, UM, JUST REGULAR CITIZENS.
THEY ALL HAVE, EVERYONE HAS THE SAME OBJECTIVE TO MAKE EDMOND A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY AND ALL THAT.
SO WE ALL HAVE THAT SAME OBJECTIVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I GUESS TO KIND OF ECHO YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER, I MEAN, THIS ISSUE WITH CLARK AND REMOVING SOME FROM THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I THINK, UH, MS. PETERSON AND THE MAYOR AND I EVER SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING.
AND TO SEE THAT PROGRESS AND THOSE INCREMENTAL CHANGES AND WHERE WE ARE NOW VERSUS WHERE WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO IS REALLY REWARDING.
IF NOTHING ELSE, THEN I, I WOULD GLADLY CALL OR ASK FOR A MOTION TO, SO MOVE MAYOR JUROR SECOND.