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[A. Discussion and Consideration of the University District Plan ]
IS AJ KIRKPATRICK.I AM THE DIRECTOR OF URBAN PLANNING AT A DG BLATT.
SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON WITH THE CITY STAFF AND WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA STAFF.
UM, ALSO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY WAS ALSO PART OF THIS, UH, STARTED IN JULY OF 24, AND WE, UH, DID ABOUT A 12 MONTH TIMELINE AND WE WERE FOCUSED ON REVITALIZING THE, UH, AREA BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THE UCO CAMPUS WITH THE HOPE OF TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A MORE VIBRANT MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD, UH, BE ESPECIALLY OF BENEFIT TO THE LARGER UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY.
SO THAT GENERALLY LAYS OUT THE TIMELINE THAT WE WERE ON THERE.
SO, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES, WE WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE GROWTH PRESSURES AND OPPORTUNITIES NEAR UCO.
AND, UH, THERE WAS ESPECIALLY A LOT OF INTEREST IN CREATING SOME SORT OF CAMPUS CORNER LIKE ENVIRONMENT FOR THAT UNIVERSITY CAMPUS.
A DESIRE TO MAKE IT A MORE CONNECTED, WALKABLE, AND VIBRANT DISTRICT.
IT IS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT RED DOTTED AREA, A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF MISSING PIECE THERE, UH, BETWEEN SOME OF THE, UH, REVITALIZATION THAT'S OCCURRING IN YOUR DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALIGNED ON LAND USE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLACE MAKING EFFORTS AND HELPING TO PREPARE THE COMMUNITY FOR SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT SOME OF THE IDEAS HERE.
THIS WAS A, A GAMING PROCESS THAT WE DID, UH, AS A BIG GAME BOARD, UH, WITH THE, THAT STUDY AREA IN IT.
UM, AND WE DID A COUPLE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS IN THERE AND LET PEOPLE KIND OF MOVE AROUND SOME BLOCKS ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UH, THOUGH THAT WE STARTED THE PROCESS WITH, UH, WE DID SOME LAND, UH, SOME DATA COLLECTION ON LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC PARKING SPACES, MARKET TRENDS, UH, MAP SOME ASSETS AND CHALLENGES.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF OUR KEY TAKEAWAYS WERE THAT YOU HAD A LOT OF UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES, THERE WERE SOME PEDESTRIAN GAPS, PARKING SUPPLY DEMAND, DISCONNECTS AND UNTAPPED OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING, ENTERTAINMENT.
THAT MAP UP THERE IS A LAND USE AND OWNERSHIP.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE TWO CONCEPTS TOGETHER.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF QUICKLY SEE, UH, ORANGE REALLY JUMPS OUT AT THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS AREA.
UM, AS WITH MANY, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NEAR DOWNTOWNS, UH, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS NEAR DOWNTOWN, THEY OVER TIME HAVE PURCHASED MORE AND MORE LAND FOR SURFACE PARKING AS IT BECAME AVAILABLE.
AND SO IT TAKES UP, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THAT DISTRICT, UH, THE STUDY AREA, QUITE A BIT OF LAND.
UH, UCO I'LL POINT OUT IN THAT DARKER BLUE HAS PURCHASED SEVERAL OF THE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY ON THE WEST SIDE OF, UH, OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE.
UH, I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY, THEY'RE USING THAT FOR PARKING, BUT I THINK AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT MAYBE ISN'T ALWAYS GONNA BE THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THAT LAND.
AND WANTED TO START THINKING ALONG SOME OF THOSE LINES.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER THINGS I'LL MENTION IS PINK IS MULTIFAMILY.
UH, SO YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME MULTIFAMILY IN THAT AREA.
THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND SUPPORT OF, UH, A WIDER RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS, UH, GIVEN THAT IT FALLS BETWEEN UCO AND UM, AND DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN LAST, UM, THE, THAT KIND OF BRIGHT BLUE ARE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND, UH, THAT ARE CLAIMED, AND THAT IS OFTEN USED AS A PROXY FOR, UH, SINGLE FAMILY OWNER OCCUPIED BUILDINGS.
SO THE BIG TAKEAWAY FROM THIS MAP IS I THINK WE COUNTED LESS THAN 20, UM, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS IN THAT ENTIRE STUDY AREA.
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I BELIEVE THAT WAS ABOUT 170 TO 180 PARCELS.SO THAT WAS A VERY EYE-OPENING, UH, EARLY IN THIS PROCESS TO REALIZE, UM, HOW FEW OF THE PARCELS IN THE STUDY AREA ARE, ARE OWNED OR ACTUALLY RESIDED IN BY THE OWNER OCCUPANT.
SO WE HAD A PARTNER WITH US, UM, THAT EPS OUT OF DENVER ECONOMIC PLANNING SYSTEMS. AND THEY STARTED THE PROCESS WITH A MARKET STUDY TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT LAND USE, UH, SEGMENTS AND, UH, SECTORS OF, OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY IN THIS AREA.
UH, THEY ESTIMATED ABOUT 627 NEW HOUSEHOLDS BY 2032, UH, 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, THAT THERE IS SOME DEMAND FOR SMALL SCALE OFFICE SPACE.
AND THAT'S BEEN PROVEN IN SOME OF YOUR RECENT PROJECTS AND THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR A HOTEL.
UH, BUT TIMING WILL REALLY DEPEND ON THE MARKET AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL LOOKING, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA HOTEL OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS AT P SHRED, I MENTIONED THAT WAS IN DECEMBER OF 24.
UM, WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, HAD SOME GAME PIECES AND LIKE I SAID, WE MOVED SOME THINGS AROUND, UM, ALLOWED PEOPLE TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND.
THE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS WAS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO BE VERY NUANCED IN THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL WE'RE ENCOURAGING OVER HERE.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY PUT IN RESIDENTIAL THAT IS GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE UNIVERSITY.
AND SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION, UM, THAT AREN'T GONNA BE, SO THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PRODUCING A BUNCH OF NEW UNITS THAT ARE TARGETED SPECIFICALLY AT, UH, COLLEGE AGE, UH, STUDENTS.
ALSO, UH, THERE IS, I THINK, UM, A THERE IS GENERAL ACCEPTANCE THAT HAVING A A DOWNTOWN HOTEL, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, WOULD HAVE A LOT OF LONG-TERM STRATEGIC VALUE THAT CAN OFTEN ACT AS, UH, FRONT DOORS TO THESE SORT OF COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NORMAN, UH, RECENTLY EXPERIENCED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NOUN HOTEL.
UH, BUT IT REALLY KIND OF BECOMES THE GUEST HOUSE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO VISIT EITHER YOUR DOWNTOWN OR YOUR, YOUR UNIVERSITY.
AND THE UNIVERSITY HAS SOME, SOME, UH, BUILT IN DEMAND FOR A HOTEL THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING, UH, SERVED ELSEWHERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UH, PARKING WILL PLAY A BIG PIECE IN THIS, AND I THINK, UH, THE UNIVERSITY UNDERSTANDS AND ACCEPTS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO START TO GET MORE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE OFFERING PARKING.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS LATER IS WE'VE SUGGESTED DOING A, A FULL OR BLOWN, UH, PARKING STUDY FOR JUST THE, THE UNIVERSITY IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT THERE IS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP, START TO DEVELOP AN URBAN EDGE ALONG, UH, UNIVERSITY.
SO THE VISION, UH, SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS.
WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE TOTAL HOUSING UNITS.
UH, WE WANT TO HAVE SOME CAMPUS WARRANTED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG UNIVERSITY MAIN AND CAMPBELL, UH, THAT WE ARE SEEING ALREADY SOME, UH, SIGNS OF PRIVATE REDEVELOPMENT ON CAMPBELL.
AND THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO STRENGTHEN THAT CONNECTION.
'CAUSE THAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT GATEWAYS, UH, WITH OLD NORTH BEING AT THE END OF THAT TERMINUS.
SO, UH, REALLY YOU GUYS ARE VERY, UH, LUCKY IN THAT SENSE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT ARE STARTING TO MOVE IN THE SAME DIRECTION THAT THE, THE PLAN WAS STARTING TO POINT.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME NATURAL, I THINK, PARTNERSHIPS, UH, AVAILABLE ALREADY.
AND THEN LAST TO INTEGRATE THIS, UH, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEW PARKING GARAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT MAIN STREET CONTINUES TO BE AS STRONG PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR, UM, FROM DOWNTOWN ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE UNIVERSITY.
SO WE WANTED TO INFILL THE, UH, UCO CAMPUS EDGES WITH PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STREET ORIENTED BUILDINGS.
UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT ABOUT HAVING A STRONGER GATEWAY, UH, UH, APPEARANCE AT UNIVERSITY AND SECOND STREET, UH, POTENTIALLY ON BOTH SIDES, UM, OF THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, IMPROVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STUDY AREA.
AND THEN ALSO PROP PROMOTE MULTI MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, NOT JUST PEDESTRIANS BIKES, BUT REALLY ALL FORMS OF, OF ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE FRAMEWORK THAT, THAT THEN IMPLIED IS THAT WE WANTED TO CREATE A CAMPUS CORNER COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, WE IDENTIFIED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ACCEPT THAT THIS IS, UH, UNIQUELY POSITIONED BETWEEN THE THIRD LARGEST UNIVERSITY IN OUR STATE AND, AND THIS QUICKLY REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE'RE SEEING THIS RISING DEMAND FOR, UM, HOUSING ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS NEAR OUR SUBURBAN DOWNTOWNS.
AND THAT'S BEEN VERY PROVEN IN, IN COMMUNITIES LIKE BROKEN ARROW AND NORMAN ALREADY.
AND YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE THE LARK AND OXLEY THAT ARE ALREADY STARTING TO SHOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL DEMAND IN YOUR DOWNTOWN.
SO THIS IS SOME OF THE, THE, THESE ARE THE LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND FROM, UH, THE WORK THAT WE DID.
AND WE SAW, REALLY SAW A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN, UM, ERRORS, UM, THAT ESPECIALLY, UH, THE NORTH SIDE OF HES AND SOUTH, UM, VERY MUCH IS BECOMING, UH, VERY HEAVILY COMMERCIAL OR INSTITUTIONAL IN NATURE.
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UH, BUT THEN AS YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH, UH, OF THAT, UH, IN THAT PURPLE AREA, YOU'RE SEEING, UH, THE POTENTIAL TO KEEP THAT SOMEWHAT OF MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.UM, THAT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING VERY MODERATE INCREASES IN, UH, IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN THAT PURPLE AREA.
UM, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE SOUTH, UH, INTO THAT AREA AREAS INTO THE SOUTH, WE WOULD EXPECT SOME MODERATE DENSITY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, KIND OF LIKE THE CAMPBELL.
AND, UM, THERE IS ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING STRATEGIC IN OUR PLACEMENT OF COMMERCIAL USES SO THAT WE'RE BUILDING CRITICAL MASS.
SO WE DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY HAVE, UH, RETAIL ON EVERY SINGLE STREET.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING THAT IN ANY SORT OF REZONING YOU MIGHT ATTEMPT AS A COMMUNITY, A LARGE SCALE REZONING, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ORIENTED TOWARDS UNIVERSITY AND MAYBE DOWN SOME OF THE KEY CORRIDORS, UM, LIKE MAINE, CAMPBELL AND AIRS.
SO I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICKLY.
SO, UH, THE PURPLE AREA IS AGAIN, THAT AREA TO THE NORTH, AND THAT'S THE SORT OF STYLE OF, OF NEW DEVELOPMENT WE WOULD, WOULD SUPPORT.
THE, UH, POINT IN ALL THESE PHOTOS IS THESE ARE ALL PHOTOS FROM OKLAHOMA CITY MARKET.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN WILL HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND SHOW PHOTOS FROM OTHER MARKETS.
WE REALLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE RECENT AND THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND ARE ARE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN CENTRAL OKLAHOMA OR SOME, IN SOME CASES EVEN IN EDMOND.
SO THAT'S THAT, THAT, UM, SLIGHT INCREASE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY I MENTIONED FOR THE AREA ON THE NORTH, THAT BLUE AREA IS JUST IN ANOTHER STEP UP IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
UM, YOU'LL NOTE VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ALLOW JUST, UM, BY MAYBE A, A MAX SQUARE FOOTAGE TOTAL.
UM, THAT ONE IN THE MIDDLE HAS A VERY SMALL COMMERCIAL PRESENCE ON IT, BUT OVERALL, THOSE ARE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.
AND THEN FINALLY YOU GET INTO THE, THE FULL BLOWN MIXED USE WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE HOTEL THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, ALSO, UH, MUCH STRONGER, UH, RETAIL ORIENTATION ON THAT FIRST FLOOR IN ALL THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO WE DID ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE HAD A CAMPUS SURVEY THAT, UH, WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED, 618 RESPONSES.
UH, YOU COULD DEFINITELY TELL STUDENTS WERE EXCITED BY THIS, BY THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, WE ALSO DID A NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEY.
WE WENT THROUGH, UH, CITY STAFF THANKS TO THEM.
THEY WENT THROUGH AND DID A DOOR HANGER ON EVERY SINGLE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DOOR IN THE STUDY AREA.
WE GOT 22 RESPONSES BACK ON THAT.
WE DID SEVERAL LISTENING SESSIONS AS WELL WITH DEVELOPERS, BOTH IN EDMOND AND CENTRAL OKLAHOMA CITY.
AND THEN, UM, WITH YOUR TOURISM FOLKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, EXPERTS IN TOWN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE, UM, THE GRAPHS THAT CAME OUT OF THE CAMPUS SURVEY.
UH, AND WE ASKED THEM TO RANK ALL THOSE, UH, BUSINESS TYPES, UH, BY THEIR PREFERENCE.
AND SO FROM THE CAMPUS SURVEY, UH, YOU HAD FAST CASUAL DINING, UH, WHICH YOU TYPICALLY ORDER AT THE, AT, AT THE, UH, COUNTER, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE WAIT STAFF, COFFEE SHOP, UM, AND THEN RECREATION.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE SEEING INCREASINGLY, UH, YOU'RE SORT OF, UM, DUST BOWL, BOWLING ALLEY, UH, DAVE AND BUSTER'S, UH, UH, CHICKEN AND PICKLE WHERE IT'S, THERE IS A RECREATIONAL ASPECT, BUT THERE'S ALSO FOOD AND BEVERAGE ATTACHED TO IT.
AND THEN THE FOURTH ONE BEING SIT DOWN DINING.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SAME QUESTION BUT POSED TO THOSE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONDENTS.
SO SOME OF THE SAME CAME UP, BUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORDER.
UH, THEY ACTUALLY PREFERRED SIT DOWN DINING FIRST, THEN FAST CASUAL.
THEY, UH, WANTED A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH LIMITED GROCERY AND THEN A COFFEE SHOP, UH, IN THE TOP FOUR THERE.
SO SOME OF THE TOP FIVE, TOP FIVE PRIORITIES THAT CAME OUT OF SPECIFICALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEY.
UH, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY WAS MAINTAINING OR CLEAN, UH, CLEANING EXISTING SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES AND CROSSWALKS.
SECOND WAS REDEVELOP OR RENOVATE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
THIRD WAS IMPROVE LANDSCAPING, UH, THEN IMPROVE EXISTING PUBLIC SPACES AND CREATE OR ATTRACT LOCAL AMENITIES IN THE TOP FIVE.
SO THIS IS THE STEADIER FROM A STEADY AREA, FROM A BIRD'S EYE PERSPECTIVE.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE STARTED TO PUT IN SOME INFILL ON SOME KEY BLOCKS.
UM, WE DEBATED, UH, THROUGH THAT, UH, GAMING SESSION WHAT MADE THE MOST SENSE TO START WITH.
AND WE ACCEPTED THAT SOME OF THE, UM, PARCELS THAT THE UNIVERSITY OWNS, UM, ARE LARGER AND THEY THEREFORE MAKE MORE SENSE TO HOLD BACK FOR MAYBE SOME LARGER DEVELOPMENTS AS WE START TO PROVE THIS MARKET FOR A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, ALSO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF KEY BUILDINGS THAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS RECENTLY INVESTED IN
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OR IS PLANNING TO INVEST IN.AND, UH, THE TIMING OF HOW WE DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALLOW THEM, UH, THE UNIVERSITY MORE TIME TO, TO, UH, CARRY OUT, TO, TO TAKE, UH, USE OF, OF THOSE RECENT IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT YOU'LL NOT, WE, WE, UH, NUMBERED EACH BLOCK 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
SO I'LL REFERENCE THOSE THROUGHOUT HERE.
BUT YOU'LL SEE ON BLOCK ONE, UH, THE UNIVERSITY HAS THAT NORTHEAST CORNER.
UM, WE PROPOSE THAT AS A RESTAURANT POTENTIALLY WITH SOME SORT OF RECREATIONAL, UM, CORE TENANT TO IT SKIPPING OVER BLOCK TWO TEMPORARILY, UH, IN THE SHORT TERM, UH, OR WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE NEAR TERM, I'M SORRY, ON THIS TO BLOCK THREE.
UM, THAT IS, UM, SOME, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF SMALLER BUILDINGS WITH SOME COMMERCIAL USES.
THEY WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DO VERY MODERATE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS IF THEY FELT LIKE THE DEMAND WAS THERE ONCE THE UNIVERSITY HAS PARTNERED WITH, UM, A DEVELOPER AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT THAT MADE SENSE AT THE TIME.
AND THEN SKIPPING OVER BLOCK FOUR IN THE NEAR TERM, UH, THAT IS THE, UM, UCO GAMING CENTER AND THE, UM, WHAT IS THE OLD TEXTBOOK BUILDING, UH, FOR THE TIME, THE TIME BEING.
AND THEN, UH, GOING UP TO BLOCK FIVE, DOING ANOTHER, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT STRETCHES, UH, BOTH SIDES OF THAT ALLEYWAY POTENTIAL TO MAYBE EVEN CLOSE THAT ALLEYWAY, UM, TO CUT DOWN ON ONE LESS, UH, ENTRY POINT INTO THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE.
AND THEN JUMPING ALL THE WAY BACK TO, THAT'S BLOCK SIX ON THE FAR NORTH THERE.
UM, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT THE POLICE STATION THAT IS RIGHT UNDER NUMBER FIVE ON THAT, UM, IS EVENTUALLY GONNA NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AND SO WE SAID, WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING WHATEVER NEW BUILDING THAT IS UP TO THAT CORNER.
SO YOU'RE STARTING TO BUILD THAT URBAN, UH, THAT URBAN EDGE ON ALL THREE SIDES.
UH, ALONG WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE NORTHEAST SIDE, UH, WE LOVED THE IDEA OF DOING A, A RESTAURANT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OR MAYBE EVEN TWO, UH, THAT COULD THEN, UH, THAT THOSE WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY EAST OF, UM, FLAT TIRE BURGER.
AND SO GIVING THEM, UM, AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIP RESTAURANT THAT TENDS TO BE VERY HELPFUL, UH, IN DRIVING BUSINESS.
AND THEN LASTLY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UH, THAT IS THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO WORK WITH, UH, THE CURRENT OWNERS ON SOME SORT OF REDEVELOPMENT CONCEPT FOR THAT, THAT WOULD BRING, UM, A, A NEW GENERATION OF A CONVENIENCE STORE, UM, THAT WOULD, UH, LIKE I SAID IN THAT SURVEY, POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME LIMITED GROCERY OPTIONS.
WE ALSO TOOK CREDIT FOR A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY OR PLANNED.
SO YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE INFILL, BUT SPECIFICALLY I'LL POINT OUT THERE ON CAMPBELL, YOU'VE GOT THE CAMPBELL ALREADY KIND OF FILLING IN.
AND THEN, UM, A COUPLE OF, UH, VACANT PARCELS UP IN THE FAR NORTHWEST THAT WE UNDERSTAND ARE, ARE BEING LOOKED AT FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE TWO THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
ALSO TAKING CREDIT FOR THE, THE, UH, THE CITY HALL AND PARKING GARAGE.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE, UH, THOSE SPECIFIC SPOTS THAT WE JUST KIND OF WALKED THROUGH.
AND THEN THIS IS THE LONG TERM, UH, OF WHAT WE THINK THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS TAKE TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY 15, 20 YEARS OUT THAT WE COULD START TO SEE THAT.
THE KEY THINGS ABOUT THAT WE'LL POINT OUT ABOUT BLOCK TWO AND BLOCK BLOCK FOUR IS THOSE REALLY ARE THE LARGEST HOLDINGS THE UNIVERSITY HAS THAT WOULD BE, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF A GARAGE.
YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE SIZE OF A GARAGE IN TERMS OF THE RAMP DISTANCES.
AND SO WE THINK THERE'S SOME STRATEGIC VALUE TO HOLDING BACK THOSE, EVEN JUST ONCE A PARKING GARAGE BECOMES MORE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.
BUT, UM, I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF WHAT THAT WOULD DEVELOP OUT IN THE LONG TERM.
DOWN IN THE FAR LEFT, UH, WE SHOWED THE POTENTIAL OF THE UNIVERSITY MAYBE STARTING TO BUILD TO ITS OWN URBAN EDGE RIGHT NOW.
THERE UNIVERSITIES WILL OFTEN STRUGGLE WITH THIS ABOUT DO YOU TURN INTO THE CAMPUS? DO YOU TURN OUT, UH, A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE DOUBLE FRONTED BUILDINGS IN THIS SITUATION.
UH, BUT THAT IF, IF AND WHEN THE UNIVERSITY FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME TO BUILD ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS THAT THEY COULD ALSO BE REINFORCING ON THEIR SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT URBAN EDGE MOVING ACROSS THE STREET, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THAT HOTEL.
AND THAT WAS IN TWO DIFFERENT SIZES, UH, EITHER SLIGHTLY UNDER A HUNDRED IF YOU WERE TRYING TO A HUNDRED ROOMS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO STAY IN THE BOUTIQUE, UH, SIZE, BUT ALSO THE POTENTIAL THAT IT COULD BE PARTNERED WITH THE NI CENTER IN TERMS OF EVENTS.
AND YOU MIGHT NEED TO GO A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, 125 ROOMS OR MORE, UH, TO SUPPORT SOME ADDITIONAL EVENT SPACE.
YOU'LL SEE THE PARKING GARAGE THAT WE THINK WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THE LIBRARY LONG TERM.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE FROM THAT ANGLE, BUT WE'VE
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WRAPPED THAT WITH RESIDENTIAL THAT WOULD LOOK OUT ONTO THE PARK.WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT BUFFER USE, AND WE THINK THOSE WOULD BE REALLY ATTRACTIVE, ESPECIALLY TO, UH, OLDER RESIDENTS THAT WOULD REALLY ENJOY BEING NEAR THE, UH, THE LIBRARY AND SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN AMENITIES, UM, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
AND THEN THAT OTHER BUILDING, UM, WE PRESENTED AS, UH, FLEX SPACE, DEPENDING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS VERY FAR OUT, UM, THAT COULD BE POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL OFFICE OR SPINOFF SPACE FOR THE UNIVERSITY.
UM, OR IT COULD BE, UH, TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF, IF RESIDENTIAL MADE SENSE AT THAT TIME IN THE FUTURE.
WE ALSO PICKED UP A COUPLE IN BETWEEN.
THERE'S A SMALL, UH, SMALL BUBBLE THAT'S JUST TO SHOW WHAT SOME INFILL HOUSING COULD LOOK LIKE ON SOME OF THE VACANT LOTS.
SO YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF THOSE OTHER SMALL BUBBLES AS YOU GO FURTHER NORTH WHERE WE TRIED TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE.
WE DIDN'T WANNA SHOW DEVELOPMENT ON ANYONE'S EXISTING HOME.
UM, SO WE REALLY JUST TRIED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY VACANT LOTS IN THE, THE STUDY AREA TO SHOW HOW THIS COULD CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT.
BUT ESPECIALLY ON THAT CAMPBELL CORRIDOR, UH, WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN CONTINUING TO BUILD OUT SOME OF THE, THE SAME CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE CAMPBELL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE THINK THAT IS TOTALLY IN CHARACTER IN KEEPING WITH THE OTHER EFFORTS ALONG UNIVERSITY.
UM, AND SO WE'RE SHOWING WHAT THAT COULD START TO LOOK LIKE, ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU START TO BUILD THOSE PARKING GARAGES, THAT REALLY CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THOSE SURFACE PARKING LOTS FOR SOME OF THOSE CHURCHES WHO REALLY MOSTLY NEED THEM ON SUNDAYS.
BUT, UM, AS WE'VE SEEN, THERE'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNIVERSITY USING A LOT OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, BUT THAT REALLY FREES UP A LOT OF THOSE SURFACE PARKING LOTS FOR THOSE CHURCHES THAT COULD THEN GO BEND BACK INTO REDEVELOPMENT ONCE YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'VE CROSSED THAT THRESHOLD THAT A PARKING GARAGE MAKES SENSE.
AND THEN, UH, UP IN THE FAR NORTHWEST CAN SOME MORE OF THAT, THAT VERY MODERATE, UH, INCREASED, UH, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT LOOK WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH BOTH NEAR TERM AND LONG TERM.
AND THEN JUST THE LAST, UH, PIECE HERE IS THAT STREETS AND MOBILITY.
SO WE KNOW YOU GUYS JUST RECENTLY HAD SOME WORK DONE ON YOUR DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE.
IN TERMS OF MASTER PLAN, WE THINK THIS TIES IN VERY WELL WITH THAT.
WE WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, BUT WE REALLY TRIED TO FOCUS ON UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD AND THEN THERE WAS A NATURAL CADENCE OF EVERY TWO STREETS ON THE NORTH SOUTH ONE.
SO MAIN STREET KIND OF BEING ONE OF THOSE REALLY PRIMARY STREETS CAMPBELL AND AIRS, UH, WHERE YOU COULD DRIVE, UM, THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, STREET, UH, THE, THE, THE, UH, RETAIL ORIENTED STREET FRONTAGES OF ANY BUILDINGS.
UM, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE COULD AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS TO INCREASE, UH, THE ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, ESPECIALLY AS YOU CROSSED, UH, BOULEVARD THERE.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME ASSOCIATIVE IMAGES WE WANTED TO SHARE OF WHAT WE THINK SOME OF THOSE STREETSCAPES COULD START TO LOOK LIKE, ESPECIALLY ON THE STREETS THAT I HIGHLIGHTED.
UH, WE WANTED TO REALLY FOCUS ON ENHANCED CROSSWALKS AND TRAFFIC CALMING, BE VERY GENEROUS WITH THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE AVAILABLE AND, UM, WORK ON THINGS LIKE PEDESTRIAN SCALED LIGHTING AND INTEGRATING THOSE PUBLIC SPACES.
SO, UM, WE WANTED TO, UH, ALSO, WE, WE WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE VALUE OF STREET TREES, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS A SAFE AND INTUITIVE, UH, AREA.
AND ALSO YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT HISTORY WITH PUBLIC ART, AND WE THINK THIS WOULD OPEN ALL SORTS OF NEW OP UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT PUBLIC ART.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE, UH, UH, STREET LEVEL RENDERINGS THAT WE DID.
SO THIS IS UP AT THAT BLOCK SIX, UH, WHICH IS UNIVERSITY AND ERRORS.
AND WHAT WE STARTED TO PLAY AROUND WITH WAS THE IDEA OF A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
WE THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF VALUE, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR CARS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE NORTH THAT MAY IN THE PAST HAVE GONE DOWN UNIVERSITY TO GET TO SECOND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DO WANT TO TRY TO START TO CALM TRAFFIC, UH, IN THIS SEC SECTION.
AND WE THINK THIS CREATES A REALLY NICE, UH, BOOKEND TO THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HANG A RIGHT IF THEY WANNA, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET OVER TO BOULEVARD.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF PLACEMAKING, I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE VALUE OF WHAT THE ROUNDABOUTS IN MIDTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY HAVE DONE.
UM, WE THINK, UH, WE LOOKED AT SOME EXAMPLES FROM UNIVERSITIES, UH, WHERE THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BECOME VERY, UM, BELOVED AND KIND OF ADOPTED BY THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE THINK THIS IS A POTENTIAL PLACE THAT YOU COULD MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RIGHT DESIGN, UH, THAT THIS COULD BECOME THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING GRADUATION PHOTOS.
THAT'S THAT SAME CORNER, UH, WITH SHOWING ALL FOUR ALL, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL, WITH ALL FOUR CORNERS HAVING DEVELOPMENT ON THEM.
I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THAT POTENTIAL REPLACEMENT FOR THE POLICE BUILDING, THE ADDITIONAL RESTAURANTS THAT ARE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, MAYBE A NEW GAS STATION THAT GETS BUILT WITH SOME SORT OF FORM-BASED CONTROL TO IT ON THE NORTHWEST.
AND I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT THE BIKE LANE.
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UH, RIGHT NOW YOU GUYS HAVE SOME BIKE FACILITIES ON BOTH SIDES.WE STARTED TO SEE THE REAL VALUE OF MAYBE DOING A, A CYCLE TRACK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET.
UH, WE, UH, ACCEPT THAT IT'S PROBABLY UNLIKELY WE'LL GET ON STREET PARKING ON THAT SIDE, UH, THE WAY THAT THE UNIVERSITY USES IT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE THINK THAT'S A LOGICAL WIN, IS TO MOVE, UH, A, UH, THAT BIKE FACILITY TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET, GET IT SEPARATED MORE FROM TRAFFIC, UM, AND YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO TAKE IT ALL THE WAY AROUND THE NORTH END OF THE UNIVERSITY, UH, OF THE UNIVERSITY CAMPUS.
UM, SO REALLY START TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, UH, FRIENDLY FOR, FOR STUDENTS THAT MAY BE WANTING TO BIKE TO CLASS.
THIS IS, UH, UNIVERSITY IN CAMPBELL.
UH, SO THIS IS CAMPBELL AND, UH, OLD NORTH WOULD BE RIGHT THERE ON YOUR RIGHT.
AND SO WE, UH, WE, WE HAD THE IDEA OF DOING AN ELEVATED INTERSECTION HERE TO AN EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS, UH, PEDESTRIAN FIRST.
UH, THIS IS, UH, FROM OTHER WORK WE'VE DONE IN YOUR DOWNTOWN.
WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT CAMPBELL IS FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE PARKING UP AND DOWN AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
THIS IS, UH, ONE OF YOUR MAIN THOROUGHFARES FOR GETTING STUDENTS ACROSS.
UH, THESE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER, UH, USES BECAUSE IT MAKES CARS HAVE TO COME UP TO THE LEVEL OF PEDESTRIANS.
UM, SO IT STARTS TO KIND OF LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD THERE.
UH, WE WERE HAPPY TO FIND OUT THAT THE CITY WAS ALREADY TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THIS WITH THE UNIVERSITY ON THE EAST SIDE, AND SO, UH, EAST SIDE OF CAMPUS THAT IS.
AND SO, UH, WE THINK THIS IS A VERY, UH, LOGICAL PLACE TO DO THAT.
AND IT REALLY REINFORCES AGAIN, THAT CONNECTION TO, UH, UH, OLD NORTH.
SO THESE ARE JUST THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GAVE AT THE, AT THE FINAL PART OF THE STUDY.
WANNA INCLUDE IT IN, IN, UM, THE, WE WANT TO RECOMMEND TO INCLUDE THE STUDY HERE IN A LARGER EFFORT TO REZONE DOWNTOWN.
USING FORM-BASED PRINCIPLES, UH, INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, UH, TYPES IN EACH OF THE RESULTING ZONING CATEGORIES REQUIRE ACTIVE FIRST LEVEL SPACES AND BUILDINGS ON UNIVERSITY CAMPBELL AND MAINE.
UH, OFF WE, WE THINK THAT OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS, IF INCLUDED, UH, 'CAUSE A LOT OF, A LOT OF PLACES ARE, ARE GETTING AWAY WITH THOSE OR DOING AWAY WITH THOSE, UH, KEEP THEM PERMISSIVE, PARTICULARLY FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES, MINIMIZE BUILDING SETBACKS AND REQUIRE OFF STREET PARKING TO BE ON THE SIDE OR BACK OF BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY ON UNIVERSITY CAMPBELL AND MAIN.
IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE, THAT A PARTNERSHIP UCO AND THE CITY PURSUE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THROUGH AN RFI PROCESS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY SITES THAT WERE OWNED BY UCO, UH, WE DON'T THINK ALL THOSE NEED TO BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME, WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE THE POTENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE IN SEGMENTS.
UH, WE THINK YOU ALREADY HAVE A TIFF DISTRICT, SO, UH, USE THAT TIFF FOR REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT GAP FINANCING AND ELIGIBLE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE DID INCLUDE SOME PRICING, UM, AS PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, OF, OF WHAT YOU SHOULD START TO PLAN FOR AND SOME OF YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING.
UH, MAINTAIN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THE CHURCHES, UH, IN THE DISTRICT REGARDING THEIR LONG-TERM PLANS.
UH, THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THOSE CHURCHES ARE NECESSARILY GOING AWAY, BUT THAT IS KIND OF A, A NATIONAL TREND RIGHT NOW IS, IS A LOT OF CHURCHES ARE CHANGING HANDS, GOING TO DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK TO EACH OF THOSE CHURCHES ABOUT THEIR LONG-TERM PLANS AND WHERE THEY MIGHT BE GOING AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THOSE OUT PARCELS, UM, AS THE PARKING DYNAMICS CHANGE IN THE AREA.
UM, AND THEN PRIORITIZE EXISTING OPPORTUNITIES ON BOX THREE AND FIVE, UM, TO TEST THAT MARKET.
UM, FOR THOSE LARGER INVESTMENTS WE SHOWED IN THE FAR TERM IN TERMS OF UCO, UH, WE SUGGESTED THAT DETAILED PARKING ANALYSIS SO THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW PEOPLE ARE USING VARIOUS FACILITIES AND TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT MAKE SOME SENSE TO START TO CHARGE DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON, ON WHICH FACILITY, UM, PEOPLE ARE USING MORE.
UH, THAT IS THAT TIERED PARKING PRICING STRUCTURE THAT YOU WILL SEE IN A LOT OF PLACES WHERE YOU BUILD IN SWEAT EQUITY, THAT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WALK FURTHER TO CLASS, YOU, YOU PAY LESS THAN IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE PREMIUM SPOT RIGHT OUTSIDE UNIVERSITY.
UM, SUPPORT EFFORTS BY THE CITY OF EDMOND TO MONITOR LENGTH OF USE IN ON-STREET SPACES NEAR CAMPUS.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITY AND THE CITY, UH, SEPARATE FROM THIS, UM, ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
AND THEN ADOPT A POLICY THAT ANY UNIVERSITY LED DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF UNIVERSITY ADHERE TO SOME SORT OF BUILD TO LINE AND BUILDING ORIENTATION RULES TO CREATE THAT EQUIVALENT ACTIVATION ON THAT EAST SIDE.
AND WE CONSIDER, WE ASK THEM TO CONSIDER ON TAKING A CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN THAT ADDRESSES HOW TO ENCOURAGE THAT.
AND THEN I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE, INFRASTRUCTURE OPPORTUNITIES EXAMINE FUTURE PUBLIC INVESTMENTS ADDRESSING STORM WATER ISSUES.
THAT WAS AN ISSUE WE HEARD QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTH PART OF THE STUDY AREA.
UH, CARRY OUT ENHANCEMENTS TO UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO SLOW TRAFFIC, CREATE A MORE PEDESTRIAN BIKE FRIENDLY STREET, ENCOURAGE USE BY ALL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, IMPROVE THAT EAST WEST ACCESSIBILITY ACROSS BOULEVARD FOR ALL USERS, AND THEN ADD A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT MAIN AND BOULEVARD.
UH, AND THEN PRI PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AT MAIN CAMPBELL AND AYS ALSO AT
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BOULEVARD.THIS IS THAT REAL QUICK SNAPSHOT I MENTIONED OF SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, COSTS THAT WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO START TO GET IN THAT, THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS A, AS A UH, COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT, I'LL SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE, UH, PRESENTER? FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS? YEAH, QUICK QUESTION.
UH, QUICK QUESTION ON, I'M VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED ON THE BLOCK ON MAIN STREET, UM, THAT THE LE BLOCK BETWEEN MAIN AND HERD.
I, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT MAINTAIN A RESIDENTIAL STATUS AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS MAINTAIN THE CURRENT CHARACTER.
BUT THEN THERE WAS A, A SENTENCE ABOUT FINDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT AREA.
AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T, I, IT IS JUST A COMMENT AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT TO SAY ON THIS, BUT WHAT, WHAT IS, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO TO MAINTAIN THAT THOSE, UH, RESIDENCES, UM, ARE NOT DISTURBED OR OVER RIDDEN BY SOME OF THE, UM, ACTIVITIES OF THIS AREA? YES, UH, I THINK WE WERE VERY AWARE OF THAT AREA.
UM, WE, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL CATEGORY OF RESIDENTIAL TWO, THAT BLUE AREA, WHICH, UH, REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ON IT.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE NECESSARILY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA HAVE A RESIDENT OR A COMMERCIAL, UH, FRONTAGE RIGHT NEXT OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.
UM, THEY ALSO, UM, I THINK EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME HEIGHT DIFFERENCES.
UH, I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PHASING OF THE DIFFERENT BLOCKS THAT WE ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDED, THAT ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY FAR OUT.
UM, AND THAT COULD BE 15 TO 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUES TO EVOLVE THROUGH THAT 15 TO 20 YEAR PERIOD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? UH, YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE.
UM, REGARDING THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL, ARE YOU THINKING COLLEGE STUDENTS? NO.
UM, I THINK THE UNIVERSITY HAS, HAS TRIED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE IDEA THAT THEY DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY, UM, SUPPORT THIS EFFORT TO THEN HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS ACROSS THE STREET WHEN THEY ARE A HOUSING PROVIDER THEMSELVES.
SO I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME NICHE OPPORTUNITIES MAYBE WITH FACULTY AND STAFF HOUSING FROM A UNIVERSITY STANDPOINT.
UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO IN TERMS OF PRICE POINT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY PRICE OUT A LOT OF STUDENTS.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK IN ANY OF THESE REVITALIZATION EFFORTS YOU SEE A LOT OF, UM, RETIREES THAT ARE DOWNSIZING.
AND SO THOSE ARE NATURALLY AN AUDIENCE THAT I THINK YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT EACH.
KEVIN REMINDS ME TOO, KEVIN MAY TELL ME A COUPLE THINGS FROM HERE ON OUT, SO DON'T BE SURPRISED.
UH, BUT YEAH, MARRIED STUDENT HOUSING IS ANOTHER, UH, ONE OF THOSE NICHE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT, UM, THE UNIVERSITY COULD, COULD SEE SOME GROWTH IN, UM, THAT WOULD, THEY WOULD SUPPORT.
UM, I WENT TO UCS, IT WAS ALWAYS A KIND OF A FUNNY JOKE HOW THERE WOULD NEVER BE A CAMPUS CORNER GIVEN ALL OF THE CHURCHES RIGHT THERE.
IS THERE, I ALWAYS ASSUME THERE WAS A LAW THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A BAR WITHIN A CERTAIN PROXIMITY TO A CHURCH.
WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED OR IS THAT EVEN THE CASE ANY LONGER? OR WE WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT QUITE A BIT.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIT THAT.
UM, WE DIDN'T PUT THE WORD CLOUD IN HERE, BUT UM, THERE IS ONE IN THE MAIN DOCUMENT AND VERY CLEARLY THAT IS ONE OF THE TOP LAND USES ON THE MIND OF STUDENTS.
UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN WORK AROUND IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL MIX OF FOOD VERSUS, UH, ALCOHOL SALES THAT I THINK WILL ALSO HELP GUIDE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WHENEVER THE TIME COMES TO START TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC PARCELS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT 300 FOOT DISTANCE.
IS THAT A STATE LAW? DO YOU KNOW? UH, YEAH, THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT, IS THAT WHAT THAT REQUIRES? THAT YEAH, IT'S, UH, THE ABLE COMMISSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE, UH, PRESENTER AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE.
I WILL MOVE FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MY NAME IS DAN O'NEILL 1 0 1 STONY TRAIL.
I LOOKED UP, UH, THE ATTENDANCE AT THE SCHOOLS, THE UNIVERSITY.
AND, UH, THE UNIVERSITY'S, UH, STUDENT POPULATION HAS ACTUALLY, UH, FELL BY ABOUT
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50% IN THE LAST 12 YEARS.IT PEAKED IN 2012 OR 13 YEAR, AND IT'S RIGHT AT 10 OR 12,000 NOW, AND IT WAS OVER 20,000 THEN.
UH, AND ALSO ABOUT 30% OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE ENROLLED NOW ARE JUST PART-TIME STUDENTS, NOT FULL-TIME.
I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS WHAT THAT'S DONE TO OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE DONE ON CAMPBELL AND HOW THE COMMITTEE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
I WOULD ASK, YEAH, I, I MIGHT HAVE UP ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS SINCE THAT'S SOMETHING HE WORKED WITH EVERY DAY.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE MAYOR ACTUALLY GOT HISS DATA BECAUSE MOST OF IT WAS NOT CORRECT.
UM, THE UNIVERSITY HAS HAD A DECLINE IN ENROLLMENT OVER ABOUT THE LAST 10 YEARS AND LOST ABOUT 30% OF THE ENROLLMENT.
HOWEVER, THE LAST TWO YEARS IT HAS BOUNCED BACK, UM, 3% LAST YEAR EXPECTING ANOTHER 3% THIS YEAR.
SO WHILE THE UNIVERSITY HAS DECLINED IN SIZE, UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY REASON TO THINK THAT WE WON'T CONTINUE TO BE THE THIRD LARGEST UNIVERSITY IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA BY FAR, OR TWICE AS LARGE AS THE FOURTH.
AND THE LARGER SOME OF THE OTHER UNIVERSITIES.
OUR FRESHMAN CLASS IS LARGER THAN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSITIES BY NATIONAL STANDARDS.
WE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A LARGE UNIVERSITY BY ANY NATIONAL STANDARDS.
SO I'M NOT SURE THE POINT OF THAT OF, OF THAT COMMENT.
BUT, UM, THE NEEDS OF THE UNIVERSITY AND THE EXCITEMENT AROUND CREATING A VITAL ENERGETIC DISTRICT, UM, NEAR OUR CAMPUS, SOMETHING THE UNIVERSITY HAS LONG NEEDED AS AS, UM, AS, UH, RYAN MENTIONED, UM, IS SOMETHING WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.
I'LL, I'LL, UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD AGAIN THAT, UM, IT WAS CLEAR FROM THE RESPONSES.
STUDENTS ARE VERY EXCITED BY THE OPPORTUNITY OVER THERE THIS, THAT THIS WOULD, WOULD ALLOW.
UM, I, I THINK EVEN TO YOUR COMMENT, THERE IS A SENSE THAT, UM, THERE'S NO STICKINESS TO THE EXPERIENCE OF GOING TO UCO.
THERE'S NOT AS MUCH AS YOU MIGHT AT ONE OF THE OTHER STATE UNIVERSITIES.
THERE ISN'T THAT SENSE THAT YOU'RE CREATING, UH, A PLACE AND THAT YOU ARE CONNECTED TO THAT PLACE.
AND SO I THINK, UH, THIS EVENTUALLY BECOMES A RECRUITMENT TOOL FOR UCO, UM, THAT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR OFF CAMPUS EXPERIENCES WHERE RIGHT NOW, UH, IF YOU ARE A STUDENT REALLY TRYING TO SEEK THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, YOU'RE PROBABLY HAVING TO DRIVE ELSEWHERE TO HAVE THEM.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE MOMENT? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND.
FROM THE COMMISSIONERS MOTION.
WHAT IS THIS A, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PLAN OR TO GO YEAH, TO RECOMMEND IT RE TO CITY COUNCIL.
I'LL SECOND AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES AND THAT, UH, AGENDA ITEM PASSES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND MOVING ON TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[B. Case No. VA25-00006; Discussion and Consideration of a Request to located a ground sign in the right-of-way, located at 2101 North Santa Fe Avenue. (R. Ted Leslie; Ward 4)]
NUMBER B, CASE NUMBER VA TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 0 6.DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO LOCATE A GROUND SIGN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, LOCATED AT 2101 NORTH SANTA FE AVENUE, UH, WITH CITY STAFF.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A VARIANCE TO THE SIGN CODE TO ALLOW FOR A GROUND SIGN TO BE LOCATED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2101 NORTH SANTA FE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE, NORTH OF DANFORTH ROAD.
YOU NEED TO MOVE IT DOWN, UH, DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY AT THIS LOCATION, PLACING THE SIGN OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT, UH, VISIBILITY DUE TO THE SURROUNDING TREES AND STRUCTURES, THE SIGN MEETS CODE AND SIZE AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? YES, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, CAN WE DESIGNATE A, UM, A LENGTH OR A, UH, DISTANCE FROM THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY? 'CAUSE IF WE APPROVE THIS, CAN THE NEXT DONOR COME ALONG AND MOVE IT CLOSER TO THE STREET SINCE IF WE APPROVE IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY? UM, SO YOU MOVED AWAY FROM IT.
SO THE APPLICANT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO PLACE IT IN THE SAFEST AREA AS FAR AS LINE OF SIGHT, IT'S GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY SHOWN, UM, THERE THAT LOCATION.
BUT THEY WILL WORK WITH UTILITIES AND, UH, TO GET IT IN THE BEST PLACEMENT FOR THE SITE.
AND SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PLACE A SIGN ELSEWHERE ON THERE ONCE THEY PLACE THIS
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SIGN.SO LIKE THE, UH, NEXT OWNER WOULD, UH, COULD TAKE THAT SIGN AND MOVE IT CLOSER TO THE STREET.
UM, SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT.
SAY WE WANT ANOTHER SIGN AND WE WANT ANOTHER PERMIT.
I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME AND GET ANOTHER VARIANCE.
UH, BUT I ASSUME ONCE THE, I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I ASSUME ONCE THE ROAD EXPANSION OVER THERE DOES OCCUR, THAT SIGN GETS BULLDOZED AT AT AND IT WOULD NOT BE REPLACED ON THE CITY'S DOLLAR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OF THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE UM, OR I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU APPLICANTS YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? NO, WE WERE JUST GONNA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE COULD VERY WELL BE AN EXPANSION TO THE ROAD AND WE REALIZE THAT THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO EITHER MOVE THE SIGN BACK.
UH, IT'S JUST CURRENTLY THE WAY THE PROPERTY SETS, IT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE NARROW ENTRANCE WITH UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES AND AT THE CURRENT SETBACK YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT.
AND IT ALSO, IN OUR OPINION, CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE WITH PEOPLE SLOWING DOWN AND THEN MAKING VERY ABRUPT TURNS TO TRY AND GET INTO HIS PROPERTY, WHICH WITH WHERE WE WANTED TO LOCATE THE SIGN, I THINK WE ELIMINATE THAT POSSIBILITY.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR, UH, FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A MOTION IN A SECOND.
THAT ITEM IS APPROVED ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND WILL BE HEARD AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 11TH, 2025.
[C. Consideration of General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER C, CONSIDERATION OF A GENERAL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UH, TO BE HEARD IN THIS OPEN, I'M SORRY, HERE WE GO.[A. Public Hearing and Consideration of the update to the City of Edmond’s Comprehensive Plan, known as The Edmond Plan. ]
HEAR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS RIGHT NOW.SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF THE UPDATE OF THE EDMOND OF THE CITY OF EDMOND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN KNOWN AS THE EDMOND PLAN FROM H HANNAH NOLAN.
HANNAH NOLAN, UH, LONG RANGE PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
OH, I GOT THIS AS A REMINDER, WE NEEDED TO UPDATE THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DUE TO THE COMPLETION OF THREE SIGNIFICANT PLANS IN 2022.
WE COMPLETED EDMOND SHIFT, THE LONG RANGE MOBILITY PLAN AND THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO OUR MOBILITY CHAPTER.
AND IN 2023 WE HAD THE EDMOND HOUSING ASSESSMENT AND THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO A BRAND NEW HOUSING CHAPTER AND THEN IN 2023 AS WELL.
AND WE HAD THE FOREST COMPOSITION AND THE ECOSYSTEM ANALYSIS STUDY AND THIS IS INCORPORATED INTO THE UTILITIES AND NATURAL RESOURCES CHAPTER.
UM, AND SINCE WE MADE CHANGES TO THOSE THREE CHAPTERS, UM, WE NEEDED TO UPDATE THE ACTIONS RECOMMENDATIONS LISTED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER.
THAT'S WHY THOSE FOUR CHAPTERS ARE BOLDED.
UM, I GAVE A FULL PRESENTATION OF ALL OF THE UPDATES THAT WE, UM, DID TO THE PLAN AT YOUR MAY 6TH MEETING.
SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, I'LL JUST MAKE NOTE OF THE UPDATES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
SO I PRESENTED THE NEW HOUSING CHAPTER AND THE RELATED GOALS, ACTIONS, AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A COMMITTEE THAT IS TASKED WITH IN, UM, IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSING ASSESSMENT.
AND THIS WAS TIMELY BECAUSE, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON ESTABLISHING THEIR GOALS FOR THEIR CDBG UM, CON CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO EASILY COORDINATE, SET, AND ALIGN GOALS BETWEEN THE TWO PLANS AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES.
I THEN PRESENTED THE CHANGES TO THE MOBILITY SECTION TO THE EDMOND BICYCLE COMMITTEE AND THE EDMOND MOBILITY COMMISSION IN MAY.
THEY HAD SOME MINOR CHANGES RELATED TO MOSTLY LANGUAGE, MAKING SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE PLAN WAS MORE PALATABLE TO THE AVERAGE, UM, READER.
SO WE WENT THROUGH AND, UM, HAD LESS JARGON, YOU KNOW, DEFINED KEY TERMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, THERE WAS REALLY ONLY ONE.
BOTH THE MOBILITY COMMISSION AND THE BICYCLE COMMITTEE, UM, SUGGESTED THAT A NEW ITEM BE ADDED TO THE ACTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD ADDRESS MAINTENANCE AND SUSTAINABILITY OF FACILITIES.
UM, AND SO THAT IS RIGHT THERE IN ORANGE.
UH, THIS IS ESTABLISHED FUND AND IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM TO PERIODICALLY ASSESS THE CONDITION OF ROADS, CURBS AND GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE WELLS,
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AND OTHER CITY ASSETS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ENSURE THE AVAILABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES.UM, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT ADDITION.
UM, IT SERVES AS A FOLLOW UP ITEM TO THE RECENTLY COMPLETED PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
AND IT ALSO GOES FURTHER TO ADDRESS OTHER FACILITY TYPES LIKE BICYCLE LANES AND SIDEWALKS.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'LL WORK TOWARDS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS FINANCE AND ENGINEERING.
SO THAT BEING THE ONLY MAJOR UPDATE SINCE UH, I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU IN MAY, UM, WE'LL HAVE A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER.
I'LL GO THROUGH THE WHOLE, UM, INTRODUCTION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GO THROUGH ALL THE UPDATES THAT WERE MADE, UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE TAKING THAT ITEM BACK TO COUNCIL IN OCTOBER, UM, TENTATIVELY FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN JUST LOOKING BEYOND AND STARTING NEXT YEAR, WE PLAN TO BRING RECURRING TRAINING TO VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIKE YOURSELF, UM, AND ALSO PROVIDE REPORTING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND THAT IS ALL I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF? HEARING NONE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PUBLIC FOR CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME? C ONE.
PLEASE ADDRESS THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE LEASE.
TAYLOR WILSON, 7 4 8 DUNE CIRCLE.
UM, ONE THING I WOULD ASK TO INCORPORATE IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND HOW DO THEY FLOW BOTH FOR THE DOWNTOWN REPORT AND THIS REPORT.
'CAUSE I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S GONNA RADICALLY CHANGE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND GARAGES AND SUCH.
SO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, 700,000 ARE GOING TO SAN FRANCISCO NOW A MONTH, SO IT'S AUSTIN'S BIG, SO JUST LOOK AT THAT.
ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO A MOTION IN A SECOND FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
A MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND.
AND THE AGENDA ITEM, UH, IS APPROVED ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
[B. Case No. SP24-00014; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan for Crossings Community Church – East Edmond, located on the northwest corner of Covell and Air Depot. (Orion Group; Ward 2)]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR B, CASE NUMBER SP 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 4 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR CROSSINGS COMMUNITY CHURCH IN EAST EDMOND AND WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTIE TO PRESENT.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SITE PLAN FOR CROSSINGS COMMUNITY CHURCH LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COVE ROAD AND AIR DEPOT BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONTAINS ONE 81,326 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE ON 11.2 ACRES OF LAND.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED BY THE CROSSINGS COMMUNITY CHURCH EAST EDMOND.
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THE STRUCTURE WILL BE PREDOMINANTLY RED BRICK WITH WHICH WITH NATURAL STONE VENEER AND ARCHITECTURAL METAL PANELS AS ACCENTS AND IS 74 FEET TALL AT THE HIGHEST POINT.
THE SITE PLAN CONTAINS 877 SPACES ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE PROVIDED BY TWO DRIVEWAYS, ONE ON COVELL ROAD AND ONE ON THE WEST SIDE, ONE ON COVELL ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE AND ONE ON AIR DEPOT BOULEVARD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? DAVID JONES, 2201 WOODHILL ROAD FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, I THINK CHRISTINE DID A GREAT JOB IN PRESENTING THE PROJECT, SO I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF? I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, HAMPTON HOLLOW RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
UM, OUR BIG CONCERN IS LIGHTING.
UM, THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT THAT TO ME AND SO, AND I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
WE HAVE AND YOU GUYS WILL ADHERE TO THE, TO THE CODE, SO YES.
JUST WANT THAT ON RECORD THAT VERY GOOD.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE, ANY UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE AND LOOK FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL SECOND THAT AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
THEN THE AGENDA ITEM PASSES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND IS FINISHED HERE TONIGHT.
[C. Case No. Z25-00016; Public Hearing and Consideration of a Rezoning property that is between 2nd Street and 15th Street on Hiwassee Road, east of Lake Hiwassee, from “G-A” General Agricultural to “R-1” Rural Estate District (Caleb Ring; Ward 2).]
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25 DASH 0 0 0 1 16 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING PROPERTY THAT IS BETWEEN SECOND STREET AND FIFTH STREET, 15TH STREET ON HIGH WASI AND CHRISTIE WILL PRESENT.APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 48 HII ROAD LOCATED SOUTH OF EAST SECOND STREET ON THE EAST SIDE OF HII ROAD, EAST OF LAKE KII.
FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO R ONE RURAL ESTATE DWELLING DISTRICT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 4.95 ACRES.
THE R ONE ZONING ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT 90,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY WILL ALLOW FOR THE PARCEL TO BE SPLIT IN THE FUTURE INTO TWO LOTS.
THE AREA SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED GA AND IS MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED WITH SOME LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL.
THE ADMIN PLAN 2018 CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS AGRICULTURE IN THIS CATEGORY, R ONE ZONING IS SHOWN IN THE YELLOW, MEANING THAT IT MAY BE ACCEPTABLE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND THE APPLICATION REQUIRES ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY.
THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE SITE APPEARS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE NEARBY AREA.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE PRESENTATION OR RELY ON CITY STAFF? UH, NO.
THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
CALEB RING AND I LIVE JUST ADJACENT THERE AT SEVEN THROUGH TWO SOUTH ISIS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE AND LOOK FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND AND THAT AGENDA ITEM PASSES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND WILL, UH, BE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 11TH, 2025.
[D. Case No. SP24-00021; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for 7 Brew, located on the northeast corner of West Edmond Road and Kelly Avenue. (7 Brew; Ward 1)]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR D, CASE NUMBER SP TWO FOUR DASH 0 21 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR BR LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WEST EDMOND.AND KELLY AND CHRISTIE, PLEASE PRESENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR SEVEN BREW A DRIVE-THROUGH ONLY COFFEE SHOP LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF KELLY AVENUE AND EDMOND ROAD.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS 510 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, 19 FEET AT THE HIGHEST POINT AND CONSISTS OF FIBER, CEMENT SIDING, MASONRY WALL PANELS, ARCHITECTURAL METAL AND STAINING, SEA METAL ROOF.
TWO DRIVE-THRU LANES ARE PROPOSED IN SIX PARKING SPACES.
ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE BY DRIVEWAY FROM S WEST EDMOND ROAD AND A DRIVEWAY ON WEST SECOND STREET.
A SIX FOOT SITE PROOF FENCE WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE EAST PROPERTY LINE.
DUE TO THE UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS, SEVERAL VARIANCES ARE REQUESTED.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SETBACK VARIANCE ALONG EDMOND ROAD TO THE SOUTH AT 31 FEET AND ALONG KELLY AVENUE TO THE WEST AT 36 FEET.
PLACING THE BUILDING IN THIS LOCATION ALIGNS WITH THE SONIC RESTAURANT TO THE EAST AND CREATES FURTHER DISTANCE FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH.
A REMOTE COOLER ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE WILL BE SET BACK 57 FEET FROM THE EAST PROPERTY LINE RATHER THAN THE REQUIRED 60 FEET.
TWO VARIANCES TO THE LANDSCAPING CODE ARE BEING REQUESTED.
TWO TERMINAL PARKING ISLANDS WITH A TREE HAVE NOT NOT BEEN PROVIDED AND A 10 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED TO MITIGATE THESE VARIANCES, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED 4,800 SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPE AREA VERSUS THE REQUIRED 1,900 SQUARE FEET AND 416 TOTAL PLANT UNITS VERSUS THE REQUIRED 157 UNITS.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION REQUIREMENT ALONG EDMOND ROAD.
THE PROPOSAL SHOWS 130 FEET OF DRIVEWAY SEPARATION THAT RESTRICTS LEFT TURNS MAKING A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT DRIVE AND INCLUDING A PORK CHOP.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 80 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY ALONG WEST EDMOND ROAD AND KELLY AVENUE INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 100 FEET ALONG THESE SECTIONS.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BANK TO THE WEST ACROSS KELLY AVENUE AND THERE ARE NO FORESEEABLE CONFLICTS WITH THE FUTURE KELLY AVENUE AND EDMUND ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH STAFF TO MINIMIZE ALL REQUESTED VARIANCES.
STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO, UH, ADD TO THIS APPLICA OR TO THIS PRESENTATION? I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M RANDY HILL WITH EDIE HILL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND ALSO MASON HINES IS HERE WITH SEVEN BREW AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD ANY, BUT WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE CITY STAFF OVER A PERIOD OF MANY MONTHS TO TRY TO GET, UH, GET THIS, UH, FIT INTO THIS SITE.
I THINK IT'S A REAL GOOD USE FOR THE SITE AND ON A, ON A PARCEL THAT'S, UH, BYPASSED PARCEL AND MOND AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A SEVEN BREW AT THIS CORNER.
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SIR.ANY QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE, UH, LANDSCAPING BUFFER OR LACK OF THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER ON THE EAST SIDE.
I KNOW THERE'S A PRIVATE RESIDENCE OVER THERE AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD CONSIDERED, UH, SOME TYPE OF, UH, LANDSCAPING IN THAT AREA.
I I I KNOW YOU'VE, UH, INCLUDED A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AND I'M ASKING YOU TO DO MORE SO, BUT WHAT DID YOU CONSIDER THAT? DID YOU SAY THE EAST SIDE CHIP? YES, THE EAST SIDE.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IF I DIDN'T, YEAH, I MEAN I KNOW WE'VE WORKED, WE'LL WORK, WE WORK WITH YOU GUYS MUCH ON THIS AND SO I THINK A LOT OF IT IS JUST KIND OF JUST WHATEVER YOU GUYS FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DO TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, OUR TEAM IS WILLING TO HEAR WHATEVER WE NEED FOR LANDSCAPING IN TERMS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SO HOWEVER WE CAN ACCOMPANY YOU IN THAT AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO WE PROVIDED A, A 10 FOOT BUFFER IN THAT AREA.
UH, WE TRIED TO CREATE EXTRA LANDSCAPING IN EVERY RESPECT, UH, FOR THE WHOLE SIDE.
SO, UH, YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
UM, DID THE CITY STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS THERE BESIDES, UH, JUST THE SOD YOU KNOW, ANY BUSHES OR TREES TO SEPARATE IT FROM THE RESIDENCE? RIGHT, SO THERE IS A 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER SHOWN THERE ON THE EAST SIDE.
UH, THE VARIANCE ONE IS ON THE PERIMETER BUFFER THAT IT'S JUST NOT, UH, THE 10 FEET THE ENTIRE WAY.
YEAH, WELL I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT A MORE OF A PRIVACY MM-HMM
I, I WITHDRAW, I WITHDRAW MY UH, OBSERVATION IN QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS? THE QUESTION I HAVE, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN THIS SITE BEFORE AND WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH IT WHEN SAL AND GO WAS TRYING TO GO HERE AND IT CAME TO THESE EXACT RIGHT OF WAYS WITH THE STREETS AND FUTURE POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS.
SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? UM, DURING THAT PRESENTATION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WAS PRETTY STAUNCH LAST TIME WE HAD THIS THAT UH, WE DID NOT WANT TO MESS WITH THAT, UH, HAVE A VARIANCE TO THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
WHEN I SAY THAT IT WAS CITY STAFF'S COMMENTS AT THE TIME, YES, THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY THEY'VE DONE IS ADEQUATE FOR US TO DO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO IN THAT AREA.
ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT WISH TO PRESENT ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE.
MOVING ON TO A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE USED TO, UH, MY NAME'S DAN O'NEILL 1 0 1 STONEY TRAIL.
WHAT IS THE, UH, THE LIMITATIONS ON HOW FAST, HOW CLOSE WE CAN HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO, UH, INTER, UH, INTERSECTION? DOES IT MEET THAT STANDARD? THIS PARTICULAR SITE HAS A DRIVE CLOSER THAN WHAT OUR CODE ALLOWS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING ASKED HERE TONIGHT.
AND WE'VE BEEN PRETTY STRONG ON THAT IN THE PAST.
IF WE PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN THERE, IT WOULD ELIMINATE THEM HAVING ANY KIND OF ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
IS IT THIS THE SAME SITUATION WE HAVE AT, UH, KELLY AND, UH, WHEREVER THE WALMART AND SEVEN 11 ARE THE, UH, MCDONALD'S AND SEVEN 11 ARE ACROSS THE STREET, KELLY, I THINK KELLY AND DANFORTH, ISN'T THAT WE'VE, THAT'S THE HIGHEST ACCIDENT RATE WE HAVE IN OUR CITY IN THAT INTERSECTION, IF I'M NOT CORRECT.
THAT IS THE HIGHEST, THE HIGHEST ACCIDENT INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND ONE SHOT HALF, HALF THE STUFF THAT HAPPENED IN THE SEVEN 11 WAS PEOPLE GOING FOR COFFEE OR, OR BIG GULPS.
AND I JUST REMEMBER THREE OR FOUR ACCIDENTS OF PEOPLE AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT CAUSED IT.
AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS ABOUT THE SAME THING.
THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME SITUATION.
LIKE I SAID, THE DRIVE IS CLOSER THAN WE WOULD PREFER AND IDEALLY WE WOULD'VE MORE SEPARATION ON THAT DRIVE.
WE'VE ALSO GOT A RIGHT TURN AND A RIGHT OUT TOO.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR, AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO A MOTION IN
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A SECOND.I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND BY VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
THIS AGENDA ITEM IS APPROVED AND WILL MOVE TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 11TH, 2025.
[E. Case No. SP24-00012; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for the Rod Whitson Office Building, located north of Covell Road, east of Kelly Avenue. (Rod Whitson; Ward 1) ]
ITEM FOUR E.CASE NUMBER SP 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 2 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE ROD WOODSON OFFICE BUILDING.
AND I'LL TURN OVER CITY STAFF TO PRESENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE ROD WOODSON OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COVILLE ROAD, EAST OF KELLY AVENUE IN THE AUSTIN TWO BUSINESS PARK.
THE 4,143 SQUARE FOOT LOT IS CURRENTLY ZONED D ONE PUD RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS 1,422 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE WILL BE RESIDENTIAL STYLE WITH FACADE MATERIALS INCLUDED.
BRICK STONE, FIBER, CEMENT, CEMENT SIDING, AND WOOD ACCENTS.
PARKING IS EXISTING TO THE SITE.
ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED THROUGH DRIVEWAYS AND SHARED PARKING AREAS WITHIN THE AUSTIN TWO BUSINESS PARK.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A MOTION IN A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND AND A SECOND AND THAT MOTION IS, OR THAT AGENDA ITEM IS APPROVED ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND IS, UH, FINISHED HERE TONIGHT.
[F. Case No. PR24-00027; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Preliminary Plat for Liberty Park, located northeast of Coffee Creek and Coltrane. (Parkhill; Ward 2) ]
ON TO CASE NUMBER FOUR F.SO IT'S CASE NUMBER PR 24 DASH 27 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LIBERTY PARK.
AND I'LL TURN OVER CITY STAFF FOR PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LIBERTY PARK, WHICH, WHICH CONTAINS 86.3 ACRES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COFFEE CREEK ROAD BETWEEN COLTRANE ROAD AND SOONER ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED WITH A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT IN 2023.
IN THIS PUD DESIGN STATEMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT CAPTURES A UNIQUE DESIGN CONCEPT CONTAINING A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, ALONG WITH A MIXTURE OF STREETS, ALLEYS, TRAILS, AND SIDEWALKS.
THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROPOSES 705 LOTS.
ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE PROVIDED BY FOUR STREETS ON COFFEE CREEK ROAD, ALONG WITH MULTIPLE CONNECTIONS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, NORTH, AND WEST.
THE STREETS WILL BE PRIVATE DUE TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SEVERAL VARIANCES ARE REQUESTED REGARDING STREET AND LA CONFIGURATION AND EASEMENT WIDTHS.
ITEM SIX F IN THE STAFF MEMO REGARDING THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION DISTANCE IS NO LONGER NEEDED.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PLAT SUBJECT TO THE VARIANCES.
THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROJECT DETAILS AND VARIANCE REQUESTS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD TO CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? SURE.
DAVID BOX 5, 2 5 NORTHWEST 11TH STREET HERE ON BEHALF THE APPLICANT WHO'S ALSO WITH IT AS WELL AS THE CIVIL ENGINEER.
UM, JONATHAN, THE CIVIL ENGINEER, WILL GO IN IN GREATER DETAIL INTO ALL THE VARIANCES REQUESTED, UH, BUT AT, AT A HIGH LEVEL WANTED TO TO TOUCH ON IT.
SO THIS IS A, A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT, I THINK FIRST OF IT KIND FOR CITY OF EDMOND.
AND ANYTIME YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PROJECT, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON THAT YOU'LL BUMP UP AGAINST, UM, KIND OF OLDER STYLE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
EDMOND IS NOT UNIQUE IN THAT THEIR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ARE DESIGNED FOR, UH, VERY VANILLA SUBURBAN STYLE DEVELOPMENT ON LARGE LOTS.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
UH, JONATHAN AND I HAVE THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THE WHEELER DISTRICT IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, IT IS, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING HERE.
AND AT THAT POINT IN OKLAHOMA CITY, I THINK IT WAS, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER EXACTLY, BUT I THINK IT WAS AROUND EIGHT TO 12 VARIANCES THAT, THAT WERE NEEDED.
AND IT WAS SIMILAR TO THIS PROCESS IN THAT WE WENT THROUGH, UH, THE REZONING EFFORT AND GOT IT REZONED.
AND AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, WE EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK TO PLAID, DON'T BE SHOCKED 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LITANY OF VARIANCES.
AND AS WE TOLD THEM WHEN WE WENT THROUGH TO GO PLA IT, IT BASICALLY BROKE EVERY SUBDIVISION REGULATION THAT THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY HAD FOR DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WHETHER IT BE STREET WIDTH OR ALLEY WIDTH OR, UH, PARKING STALL WIDTH OR HOW THINGS WERE ADDRESSED.
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TO, TO THIS, WHAT WE HAVE HERE THIS EVENING, THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PUD SIMPLY CANNOT BE BUILT WITHOUT THE VARIANCES WE REQUEST HERE.I THINK EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WANTS TO SEE A PROJECT LIKE THIS COME TO EDMOND.
THERE IS SIMPLY NO WAY TO DO IT UNDER THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK WITHOUT THESE VARIANCES BECAUSE AGAIN, YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, MUCH LIKE EVERY CITY IN THE MIDWEST, PERHAPS, IS DESIGNED FOR LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH WIDE STREETS.
THE REASON WE SEEK TO NARROW DOWN THE STREETS IS TO MAKE THIS A WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANT CARS TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF NEW URBANISM, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENTS.
THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS TO GRANT THESE VARIANCES.
UH, THE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, UM, OF ME, WELL, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE RESOLVE THE VARIANCES? SIMPLY PUT, YOU CAN'T TO BRING TO LIFE WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BRING TO LIFE THE PUD.
YOU HAVE TO GRANT THE VARIANCES.
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO DO THAT.
NOW, THE GOOD THING IS, WHAT JONATHAN'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH IS WE HAVE REAL LIFE EXAMPLES BOTH HERE LOCALLY WITHIN OKLAHOMA CITY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, SHOWING YOU THE DEVELOPMENT STYLE, THE EXACT MEASUREMENTS WE SEEK THROUGH THESE VARIANCES WHERE IN REAL LIFE APPLICATION, UH, NOT ONLY HAVE THEY WORKED, BUT THEY'VE WORKED AS INTENDED TO CREATE THAT WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
SO, UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NONE OF ME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JONATHAN TO WALK THROUGH ALL THOSE VARIANCES.
JONATHAN HEISEL, 1805 COUNCIL BLUFF DRIVE THERE IN RIDGEVIEW DRIVE.
AND, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, ME REAL QUICK.
I'VE BEEN DOING CIVIL ENGINEERING FOR 30 YEARS.
GOT TO WORK ON WHEELER DISTRICT.
BEFORE THAT, I GOT TO WORK ON PROJECT 180 FROM 2009 TO 2015 IN DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
I, UH, BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROJECT AND, UH, I WORK FOR PARK HILL.
WE'RE BUILDING COMMUNITY AND THIS PROJECT FITS RIGHT IN WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, BRIEF HISTORY AND BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT.
UM, DREAM BEGAN IN 2022, UH, AUGUST CHARETTE, WHERE WE HAD A WEEK, UH, WEEK LONG CHARETTE WITH THERE AT THE ROD KEY HOUSE.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND THAT.
UH, PRE-APPLICATION MEETING HAPPENED SHORT SHORTLY AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION, AS I MENTIONED, IN 2023, UM, PRELIMINARY TO THE CITY IN DECEMBER.
AND, UH, SEVERAL MEETINGS BETWEEN THEN AND TODAY.
AND, UH, NOW THE, THE COMMISSION HEARING, UH, AT THAT CHARETTE AT THE RKI HOUSE, UH, ONE WORD THAT COMES TO MIND ABOUT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY, THEY, THEY ASKED FOR INNOVATIVE, DIVERSE, CONNECTED, INTERESTING COMMUNITY.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
UM, AND I, IT ALSO I THINK REALLY LINES UP WITH YOUR VISION AND GOALS AND, UH, IS LOOKING TO BE ANOTHER VILLAGE, IF YOU WILL.
THE, THE EAST EDMOND PLAN IDENTIFIED SEVERAL VILLAGES, LOCATIONS, UH, ARCADIA AND SOME OTHER PLACES.
AND THIS WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE EDMOND, UH, PLAN AS WELL.
28 AND 2018 EDMOND PLAN TO BE A, UH, A MIXED USE CAMPUS, I THINK IS WHAT IT CALLS OUT AS.
EIGHT, EIGHT GOING UNITS PER ACRE.
SO AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT ROLLS RIGHT INTO THAT, THOSE PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED AND AND PREPARED FOR.
UH, AND THEN JUST LIKE THE STREET SCAPE STANDARDS ARE GONNA CHANGE.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS RYAN OCHSNER MENTIONED IN 2023 COUNCIL WAS, UH, THE CURRENT STANDARDS AREN'T SUFFICIENT 'CAUSE THEY DON'T PROVIDE THE CONTEXT OR DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.
SO JUST LIKE DOWNTOWN, THIS CAN BE A, A, A VILLAGE AND A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLACE.
EDMOND STREET'S EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ARE, ARE THESE NARROWER STREETS, UH, AND SAFER COMMUNITIES.
UM, FOLKS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVE, LIVE, WORK, PLAY IN THOSE AREAS ALL THE TIME.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS IN THE RIGHT ADJACENT TO CENTENNIAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 86 ACRES AS MENTIONED, UH, SOME RENDERINGS THAT WE HAD PROVIDED, SOME WATERCOLORS OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL, UH, ON THE EAST AND NORTH AND, AND DIFFERENT MIX OF HOUSES AND TYPES WITH COMMERCIAL IN THAT SOUTH AREA.
THIS IS RIGHTEST TO THE NORTH, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.
UH, THE COMMERCIAL AREA HIGHLIGHTED, UH, ANOTHER RENDERING OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE LOOKING NORTH, UH, WITH A HOTEL KIND OF IN THE DISTANCE THERE, UH, THROUGH THAT SHARED THAT NARROW STREET.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN, ADDRESSES THAT FACE, A FACE, A MU OR A, OR A A GREEN SPACE RATHER THAN THAN A STREET.
SO ALLEYS, UM, SURFACE THE, THE HOMES IN THE, IN THE GARAGES WITH, UH, GREEN SPACES AND, AND COMMUNITY PARKS IN THE, IN
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THE FRONT.A MU DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT KIND OF STREETS LOOKING AT, UH, HOW THIS MIGHT, UH, FEEL, LOOK AND FEEL.
INTERESTING PLACE THAT, UH, SIMILAR TO THE PLACES WE'VE VISITED, AGAIN, A A WOUNDER THAT WE HAD A WATERCOLOR DEVELOPED OF, OF THAT, UH, AREA JUST NORTH OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA WITH THE HOTEL AND THE DISTANCE THERE.
REED PARK ALSO BRINGS THE BENEFIT OF, OF, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL, IT BRINGS THE BENEFIT OF, OF ECONOMIC VIABILITY AND, AND ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
SO URBAN THREE PUT TOGETHER, UH, YOUR EAST EDMOND PLAN AND LOOKED AT SOME NUMBERS AND ANALYSIS FOR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
THEY ALSO HELPED US AND THEY LOOKED AT THE DEVELOPMENT AND SAID, OKAY, WELL THIS, THIS IS WHAT THAT COULD, THAT COULD GENERATE.
UH, THEY ALSO COMPARED IT AGAINST, UH, WHAT WAS A PREVIOUS POTENTIAL CONCEPT FOR THIS SAME LOCATION.
AND SO THEY LOOKED AT THAT AS A, AS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THEY SAID, WELL, THAT ONE, IT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T GONNA GENERATE NEAR THE REVENUES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN IT.
AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF COMPARE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING VERSUS WHAT, UM, COULD HAVE, COULD HAVE HAPPENED ON THIS SITE.
AND YOU GET A, A REALLY A DIFFERENCE OF, YOU KNOW, THREE, ALMOST $4 MILLION ANNUALLY.
AND, AND THAT REALLY TURNS INTO A LOT FOR, UH, REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
AND SO THIS IS AGAIN, THAT, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS, UM, SPECIAL PLACES, AND AGAIN, SPECIAL PLACES ARE DIFFICULT.
THEY, UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY 17 VARIANCE VARIANCES IS WHAT I RECALL FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR OKLAHOMA CITY.
SO IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A, A NUMBER, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, DIFFERENT STREETS, DIFFERENT STREET TYPES.
NOTHING'S REALLY BAKED INTO THE OKLAHOMA CITY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS EITHER.
UH, THESE ARE VAIL, THESE ARE, THESE ARE KIND OF SOME PLACES WE'VE BEEN AND WE'RE LIKE, WE CAN DO SOME OF THIS STUFF.
UM, THIS IS IN EE GEORGIA WITH A NICE WALKWAY GOING INTO SOME RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A NICE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN JUST CAREER WALKS, JUST LITTLE WALKING PATHS BETWEEN HOUSES AND, AND CREATING THESE LITTLE, LITTLE MOMENTS IN, IN THESE COOL SPACES.
UH, ALSO PRACTICALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK AROUND THE WHOLE BLOCK, YOU CAN JUST KIND OF CUT THROUGH BETWEEN HOUSES.
SO INTERESTING SPACES, UM, CALLED THE LANDING HAD THIS, UH, MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN OUT TO CALLED THE LANDING AND, AND SEEN WHAT THEY'VE DONE OUT THERE.
PLACES IN OREGON AND LONDON THAT WE'VE ALSO SEEN.
YOU GET, YOU'RE GETTING THE IDEA, I THINK.
UM, SO LIBERTY PARK PHASE ONE IS KIND OF THIS AREA OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, LATER ON.
BUT THIS KIND OF GETS INTO THE, SOME OF THE IDEAS AND ARCHITECTURE AND THE DIFFERENT MATERIAL TYPES THAT ARE NOT STANDARD CONCRETE OR ASPHALT THAT ARE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT PAPERS AND SOME INTERESTING INVESTMENTS REALLY INTO, UH, CREATING, CREATING PLACE, UH, LITTLE GREEN SPACES AND SMALLER TINIER HOMES THAT FACE MUSE AND GREEN SPACES AS WELL WITH ALLEYS IN THE BACK AGAIN, OF THE, UH, AND PARK GARAGES IN THE BACK.
EVEN A, EVEN A FOCUS IN ON LIGHTING AND HOW THAT, HOW THAT HELPS THE FEEL OF THE, OF THE PLACE.
THAT BEING SAID, THE VARIANCES.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS ON SIX A, IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT COFFEE CREEK ROAD WIDENING IT POTENTIALLY, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME WIDENING ON THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE.
AND, AND SO ONE OF THE PRESENT PRESENTATIONS AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, WIDEN THIS, UH, ON, JUST ON THE SOUTH SIDE, DO OUR WIDENING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO WE, WE HELP WITH A, A THREE LANE SECTION ON COFFEE CREEK BETWEEN COLTRANE AND SOONER ROAD.
UH, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE PLACEMENT, BUT, BUT ALSO THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM, WHAT COFFEE CREEK LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE FOR THESE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND HOW THEY MIGHT WANT TO GET OVER TO THIS COMMERCIAL AREA ONCE IT'S BUILT.
UH, AGAIN, IT WAS IN THE EDMUND SHIFT LONG RANGE MOBILITY PLAN THAT, HEY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, HAVE AN INTERIM CROSS SECTION.
AND SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A THREE LANE SECTIONS ON SOME OF THESE ROADS THAT ARE, UH, LESS TRAVELED.
I DON'T, I LOOKED AT THE ACOG, A A DT AND I COULDN'T FIND A NUMBER.
I THINK IT WAS FOUR, THREE OR 4,000 JUST TO THE WEST, BUT I, I DIDN'T SEE AN A A DT NUMBER ON THAT.
SO NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD, AND IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
LOOKED AT THE EDMOND SHIFT SHORT-TERM PROJECTS AS WELL AS LONG-TERM PROJECTS AND DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON COFFEE CREEK BETWEEN COLTRANE AND SOONER.
BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, TRAILS THAT COME IN THERE.
AND SO, UH, DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ADD TRAILS THAT CONNECT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE, THE TRAILS GOING OUT TO ARCADIA AND THE BIKE BIKE LANES AS WELL.
NUMBER, UH, VARIANCE NUMBER SIX IS TALKING ABOUT SEVEN FOOT PARALLEL PARKING CURRENTLY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING SOME 32, 34 FOOT, UM, STREETS, WHICH REALLY IS TWO FEET WIDER
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THAN THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARD OF 32.WE'RE JUST PREPARING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
SO THIS IS 34 WITH TWO SEVEN FOOT PARKING LANES WITH A 20 FOOT INTERIOR SPACE, REALLY TRYING TO, AGAIN, CALM THAT TRAFFIC, UM, AND, AND REALLY IDENTIFY WHERE THE PARKING SHOULD BE.
AND JUST LIKE THIS, YOU, YOU PLANT SOME TREES AND HAVE SOME BUMP OUTS TO WHERE YOU CAN, UM, REALLY SET THAT, THAT EDGE, WHETHER THERE'S CARS PARKED THERE CURRENTLY OR NOT.
AND THESE ARE, THIS IS CARLTON LANDING, A COUPLE PICTURES OF CARLTON LANDING WHERE THAT'S BEEN DONE, ALSO BEEN DONE AT WHEELER WHERE IT'S 20 FOOT ON THESE BUMP OUTS AND REALLY CREATING THAT TIGHTER SPACE COMBIN, COMBINING THE TRAFFIC AND, UH, AND HELPING, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN IT.
THERE WAS A, A COMMENT WHILE WE, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE, THE WHEELER DESIGN PHASE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT YOUR PARKING NINE FOOT, EIGHT FOOT, SEVEN FOOT, SIX FOOT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TRUCKS ARE ABOUT SEVEN FOOT WIDE.
BUT, BUT, UH, THE COMMENT WAS IF YOU GIVE 'EM NINE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL USE NINE.
IF YOU GIVE 'EM EIGHT, THEY'LL USE EIGHT.
IF YOU GIVE 'EM SEVEN, THEY'LL USE SEVEN.
AND SO REALLY TRYING TO CREATE THAT NICE, NICE FEEL.
UH, AND AGAIN, KEEP, WE'RE ACTUALLY MAINTAINING AND, AND PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WIDTH THAN THE, THAN THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARD.
AND DEFINITELY WIDER THAN THE 26 FOOT RESIDENTIAL STANDARD ON THESE STREETS.
YOU CURRENTLY DO HAVE, UM, SOUTH OF SECOND, I, I DROVE AND YOU CURRENTLY HAVE STREETS THAT ARE 20 FEET, UM, WHICH ONE SOMEONE'S PARKED ON ONE SIDE.
YOU'VE GOT SOME YIELD STREET CONDITIONS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GOOD AND SAFE AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR 20 FOOT STREETS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR 34 FOOT STREETS.
UM, AGAIN, THEY DID THAT IN TRIFF, UH, SERENBE.
WE, WE'VE DESIGNED AND PROPOSED SOME, UH, MIDBLOCK CROSSINGS REALLY TO, TO HELP WITH THE, UH, VIS VISIBILITY AND CREATE DESIGNED END SPEED HUMPS SO THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC STAYS CALM, EVEN IF THERE'S NO ONE PARKING ON THE STREETS AND NO ONE'S DRIVING.
UH, WE DID THIS AT WHEELER DISTRICT AS WELL.
THIS IS A TIGHT INTERSECTION, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO AN INTERSECTION THAT WE'VE GOT IN PHASE ONE, WHERE YOU'VE GOT, UM, THESE BUMP OUTS THAT KIND OF PINCH THE STREET AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SET THAT PARKING EDGE, BUT ALSO CREATE A KIND OF A CURVY WAY THROUGH THERE, THROUGH THERE, WHICH REALLY CALMS THE TRAFFIC AND REALLY SETS THE PLACE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MOST PLACES.
AGAIN, DESIGNED FOR PEDESTRIANS AND, UH, AND YOUNG AND OLD AND, AND, UH, CARS CAN STILL MANAGE IT.
EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN STILL MANAGE IT.
WE'VE GOT SOME TURNING TEMPLATES THAT SHOW THAT ON THIS ONE.
THAT'S, THIS IS ACTUALLY A TURNING TEMPLATE OF A VEHICLE LARGER.
THIS TURNING TEMPLATE IS LARGER THAN THE CITY EDMOND'S LARGEST FIRE TRUCK.
AND SO I, UM, IT BARELY GOES OVER AND, AND WE'VE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO, UH, TO VISIT WITH THEM ABOUT THAT TURNING TEMPLATE AND EVERYTHING.
AGAIN, ASHDALE IS A, A GREEN BOOK IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT.
AND, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE ALLEYS, UH, AND SITE TRIANGLES, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT IT MENTIONS ON, ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT.
I'LL GIVE YOU A TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT, UM, SOME SECTIONS OUT OF THAT, THAT GREEN BOOK THAT WERE ADDED, GREEN BOOK TYPICALLY DEALT WITH HIGHWAYS.
AND THEN THEY, IN 2018, THEY ADDED SOME SECTIONS ABOUT RURAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND, AND ALLEYS AND, UH, STOP CONTROL.
UH, WE WENT TO MUD ISLAND, THAT'S IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE WITH THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH ALLEYS.
AND YOU CAN SEE NARROWER, NARROWER ALLEYS, THESE STREETS THAT ARE, THAT FEEL REALLY GOOD AND, UH, REALLY I THINK SET A, SET A TONE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
A REALLY CALMING TONE AND NEIGHBOR, UH, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOODS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF MUD ISLAND, ANOTHER ONE AT THE ALLEYS.
AND YOU CAN SEE BOTH THE, THE, THE STREET, THE ALLEYS ARE, UH, AND THE HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT TO AN EDGE, SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, AJ WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN AND, UH, AND THE UC UNIVERSITY CAMPUS, US UH, SITE TRIANGLES AS WELL, PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND REALLY TRYING TO CREATE THAT EDGE RATHER THAN, THAN CLIPPING, CLIPPING THESE BUILDINGS 25 FOOT BACK ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, AGAIN, THESE, THESE ARE, IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHEELER, UH, DIFFERENT PAVEMENT SECTIONS, BUT PROVIDING THAT ALLEY.
YOU'VE GOT THE DRIVEWAYS IN THE, IN THE BACK AND, UH, ACCESS FOR THE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING.
AS YOU CREATE THIS ALLEY, YOU GET YOUR UTILITIES BACK THERE SO YOU CAN HIDE YOUR UTILITIES AND YOUR FRONTS OF YOUR BUILDINGS ARE REALLY NICE AND, AND, UH, AND CAN BE, UH, VERY VISIBLE WITH SOME PLANTINGS.
THIS ISN'T THE BEST PICTURE, BUT IT DOES SHOW, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR STREET SECTIONS.
WE'VE GOT, UH, INTERSECTIONS WITH, UH, RAISED, RAISED INTERSECTIONS THAT, UH, ALSO PROVIDE A, A SAFETY ABILITY.
ANOTHER PLACE WE, WE LIKED AND, AND VISITED.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY ADDRESS THEIR ALLEYS.
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MUELLER IS IN AUSTIN.IT'S, IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN THERE ABOUT 15 YEARS.
UM, GOING OUT AND MEASURED THESE, I'M KIND OF NERDY THAT WAY.
I'D GO, GO OUT TO THESE PLACES AND MEASURE 'EM OR LOOK AT 'EM ON GOOGLE EARTH AND, AND MEASURE 'EM AND, AND SEE KIND OF HOW THEY DID DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND AGAIN, DOWNTOWN EDMOND, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T BE THE SAME IF ALL THESE BUILDINGS YOU, YOU CUT OFF THE, THE SITE DISTANCE, UM, ON THESE ALLEYS AND ON THESE BUILDINGS.
UM, SO IT'S PART OF HOW YOU BUILD AN URBAN FORM THAT IS COUNTER TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION.
SO WE'RE ASKING KIND OF FOR THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT, THAT THE DOWNTOWN'S GOT PEDDLER'S LANE, THESE ARE THE SPECIAL ITEM ADDRESS IN THE SPECIAL ADDRESSES.
THEY, UH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PEDALLERS LANE.
THEY DID A FEW OF THESE HOUSES AND THEN IT WAS SO POPULAR AND SO THEY SOLD SO WELL THERE IN WHEELER DISTRICT THAT THEY ADDED THIS WHOLE NEW ROW HERE ON THE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN A, A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THEM.
UM, THESE ARE LITTLE 24 BY 30 FOOT LOTS THAT HAVE VERTICAL, UH, EX UH, YOU KNOW, GO UP TWO AND THREE STORIES TALL.
UM, AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE DRESSED OFF OF, UH, HEADER'S LANE.
SO FIRE IN EVERYBODY, FOOT PARKS EITHER ON THE ALLEY OR ON THE STREET.
AND THEY CAN ACCESS IT FROM EITHER DIRECT, EITHER SIDE AND EITHER DIRECTION.
UM, IF, IF, IF, IF A FIRE HAPPENS, AGAIN, ROSEMARY BEACH IS A PLACE WE'VE VISITED.
THESE ARE, THIS IS A 40 FOOT SECTION THAT REALLY CREATES THOSE, THOSE INTIMATE ADDRESSES AND POOL SPACES.
UM, THIS IS THE DRAFT OF THE FINAL PLAT.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UH, IN THE GREEN SPACES AND, AND HOW THAT, THAT MIGHT WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE ADDRESSES ON THESE GREEN SPACES.
UH, A CHALLENGE, UM, TO, TO GET EVERYTHING WITH DRAINAGE AND SEWER AND UTILITIES.
A LOT OF THESE ARE, AGAIN, IN THE STREETS, IN THE ALLEYS.
WE DO HAVE HAD SOME CUT THROUGHS AND WE'VE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS BASED ON YESTERDAY'S CONVERSATION WITH ENGINEERING.
UM, JUST REALLY REFINING, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN HANDLE THIS.
BUT, UM, I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN WORK THIS OUT AND MAYBE, MAYBE WITH SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO SOME, SOME EASEMENTS, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT IN IN CLOSER DETAIL.
UM, AGAIN, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES.
IF YOU'RE JUST BRINGING IN A, A LITTLE, UM, DRAINAGE LINE INTO AN AREA, DOES IT NEED TO BE 20 FOOT WIDE? WE'RE, WE'RE HOPEFUL SINCE IT'S JUST SHALLOW OR EASEMENT THAT WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE TIGHTER SPACE AND IT, IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND, AND DOESN'T REALLY MOVE THE BUILDINGS THAT FAR APART.
SO WE CAN HAVE THIS TYPE, THESE TIGHTER SPACES.
IT'S, SO WE, WE OBVIOUSLY WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THESE UTILITIES, BUT WE ALSO, IF THERE'S JUST ONE UTILITY COMING THROUGH THERE, WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES JUST THE 20 FEET.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STANDARD SAYS.
WE WANT TO TRY TO, IF THEY'RE SHALLOW, IF THEY'RE SHALLOW UTILITIES LIKE A, A SHALLOW DRAINAGE, UH, LINE OR A, A SANITARY SEWER LINE, WE'D LIKE TO PULL THOSE IN THE, THE PEDDLERS.
GOING BACK TO THE PEDDLERS, THAT'S A 16 FOOT FACE OF FACE OF BUILDING TO FACE A BUILDING WITH A FOUR FOOT GREEN SPACE AND A, AND A EIGHT FOOT, UM, AN EIGHT FOOT WALKWAY.
SO THIS, THIS HAS GOT A SANITARY SEWER RUNNING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT TO SERVICE THOSE.
AND SO IT'S ON A 16 FOOT, UH, EASEMENT, RIGHT.
CENTERED UNDERNEATH THAT SIDEWALK.
AND SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, WHERE WE CAN GET SOME UTILITIES TYING IN SOME SERVICE LINES, TYING INTO A, A, A SMALL SHALLOW MAIN.
LET'S, LET'S TRY TO DO THOSE, TO CREATE THOSE SPACES.
UM, AND THEN THE DRAINAGE, UM, GOING THROUGH THE, THE ANALYSIS AND EVERYTHING, WE, WE ARE, UM, CONFIDENT THAT, THAT, UH, WE CAN, AND THIS ISN'T THE OLDER MAP, THE, THE NEW VERSION IS BEING ADOPTED OR HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO THE IDEA IS TO CREATE THE, THE, THE POND UP NORTH A LITTLE BIT AND REDUCE THE WIDTH THERE.
ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE DO HAVE A, IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT NOTE FOUR, IF YOU SAW THAT, IDENTIFIES THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK GOING THROUGH THE DRAINAGE PROCESS, THEN WE'LL, WE WILL ADJUST THESE LOTS OUT TO WHERE WE NEED TO, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
RATHER THAN WIDEN IT ALL OUT NOW AND THEN GO THROUGH THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU CAN ALWAYS TAKE 'EM OUT, BUT WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS IF WE TRY TO PUT 'EM BACK IN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE, THE DRAINAGE CONVERSATION THERE TOO.
AND THE, THE IDEA THERE IS, UM, TO, TO REALLY O OPEN CHANNEL THAT AREA IN THE, IN THE LOWER AREA, AND THEN HAVE THESE HOUSES THAT, THAT OVERLOOK THIS OPEN CHANNEL.
AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO THEN AS WELL, UH, DEVELOP THOSE, THOSE LOTS.
BUT AGAIN, IF, IF, IF, IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK, THEN, THEN, UH, WE'LL,
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WE'LL PULL IT BACK AND, AND, UH, WE'LL GO ON.UH, THE LAST THING, THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, THE SITE PLAN IN THE, IN THE TREE PREEZ AREA ON THE EAST SIDE, KIND OF ON THE, IT'S GONNA BE A LATER PHASE.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY 18 YEARS AWAY ON THAT EAST SIDE.
THIS KIND OF SHOWS IT UP AT THE, IN THE RED BOX UP ABOVE.
AND THIS ISN'T ONE OF THE BRANCHES, WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION, SO WE THOUGHT WE'D SHARE WHAT WE'VE, UH, DISCUSSED.
AND SO THERE'S, UM, EXISTING IN 2015 AND THEN IN 20, WHEN THE HOUSES WERE BUILT, IT WAS OVER, YEAH, OVER, UH, CLEARED.
AND SO THE CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THAT, UH, TREES COULD BE PLANTED IN THAT 20 FOOT, 22 FOOT SPACE BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINE AND, AND THEIR, THEIR WALLS AND, AND THEIR PROPERTY LINE IN THAT COMMON AREA.
AND I THINK THAT MEETING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MEETING WENT REALLY WELL.
THAT, YEAH, THAT WASN'T OVER CLEARED BY US, THAT WAS BY THE HOMEOWNERS.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HOW WIDE THAT IS THERE, HOW MUCH IT WAS OVER CLEARED, BUT, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING WITH THAT.
UH, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I KNOW I RAN, RAN THROUGH SEVERAL, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, POTENTIAL.
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? NO, THANK YOU FOR DAVID.
ALRIGHT, YOU GUYS GOOD ON PRESENTATION? OKAY, PERFECT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT TO DIGEST THERE.
UM, QUESTIONS OF THE CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSIONERS? I DO HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION.
WELL, I, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, SPEND AN HOUR WITH THEM, UH, ON THE PHONE, I MEAN, UH, ON ZOOM, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND, AND I, I KNOW THAT I FELT SORRY FOR THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE EVERY QUESTION I ASK, I KNEW HE WINCED.
OH, THAT'S ANOTHER ATTORNEY FEE.
AND, UH, SO, BUT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
UM, THE, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ON THE ON G YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT, UM, THAT EASEMENT AND IF YOU CAN, UH, MAKE IT WIDER, YOU CAN, IF IT'LL FIT, BUT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO, AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF YOUR REPUTATION, THAT YOU'LL, YOU WILL LOOK AT THAT AND, AND, AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
THAT, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY, OH, AND THE, THE LAST FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH SWAB ANYWAY.
UM, UH, AND, AND ONE MORE, UH, ONE MORE LAST QUESTION.
THE, THE REALLY THE ONLY VARIANCE THAT I HAVE A, UM, A HESITANCY WITH IS, UH, A AND, UH, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT NOT GOING AHEAD AND WIDENING THAT, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH AS, UH, WE HEAR OF, UH, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS? UH, I, I GUESS MY, MY THOUGHT IS THAT, UH, I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A A, A TRAFFIC SITUATION.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
SO THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET IN THE FUTURE WILL BE DEVELOPED IN, IN PERHAPS IN A SIMILAR MANNER AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GO BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE STREET IN, IN A SAFE MANNER RATHER THAN, UM, A FOUR LANE THOROUGHFARE THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY NOT FEEL SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS.
THIS IS NOT A HILL WE'RE WILLING TO DIE ON.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF, WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE IT TO DISCRETION OF PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO WITHDRAW THAT REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEES FIT.
BUT THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS REALLY CREATING A, AN AREA OF EDMOND WHERE PEOPLE COULD TRAVERSE THAT ARTERIAL STREET SAFELY.
WE KNOW THEY WON'T DO SO IF IT'S A A FOUR LANE THOROUGHFARE.
AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT REQUESTS AND THEY HAVE TO DO THAT ROAD WIDENING AND THEY ALL THROW A FIT ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
IT'S JUST KIND OF PART OF THE DEAL.
SO WE GETTING MOOD LIGHTING, WE AT LEAST HAVE A GOOD REASON.
WE AT LEAST HAVE A GOOD REASON.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THAT BECOMES AND THEN WE START HEARING, IT'S A PRECEDENT NOW.
WE, MY PERSONAL COMMENT IS I'M HESITANT TO PROVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE CITY PIECE INSIDE OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
I'M MORE OPEN TO CONSIDERING THESE VARIANCES, BUT THE PUBLIC PIECE IS A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN IT COMES TO THESE STREETS AND IN THE FUTURE, WILL THESE ALWAYS REMAIN PRIVATE STREETS? YES.
I ASSUME THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WITH ALL THESE.
YEAH, WITH ALL THOSE, I MEAN, ANYTIME YOU HAVE SOMETHING THIS UNIQUE, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO ACCEPT THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET YOUR MINIMUM STANDARDS.
SO, UH, WHEELER IS ALL PRIVATE.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF FROM COMMISSIONERS? YES, I HAVE ONE.
UM, THE, THE HEIGHT, UM, HOW TALL ARE WE TALKING ON THESE STRUCTURES? ARE WE TWO STORIES, THREE STORIES? I THINK IT VARIES.
WHAT ABOUT THE ONE THAT BACKS UP TO THE SCHOOL, THE PLAYGROUND, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH
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SECTION? AND I THINK IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 93 OR SOMEWHERE IN THE NINETIES, YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOL, THE PLAYGROUND'S RIGHT THERE.UM, THE ONLY REASON, AND I BRING THIS UP IS 'CAUSE I HAVE THREE SMALL CHILDREN THAT, UM, GO TO SCHOOL THERE.
AND SO THE THOUGHT OF A, A BUILDING BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND.
CAN YOU, WHAT'S THAT GOT RIGHT THERE? YEAH, SO THE IDEA IS SIMILAR TO ME, PARK HERITAGE HILLS ON THOSE STRUCTURES.
THOSE ARE WHAT'S GOING TO BACK UP TO IT IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE HOUSES.
OUR CITY CENTER IS GOING TO BE MORE TO THE MIDDLE OF IT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE HOUSES GOING OVER THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LITTLE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, THAT LITTLE, UH, PATH THAT HAS THE GREEN, THAT HAS THE, WHAT'S NOT GREEN 'CAUSE CAN'T THAT COLOR'S ON THAT HERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE POCKET PARK THERE THAT THE LITTLE HATCH PATTERN THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A WALKWAY THAT'S GONNA BE FROM THE SCHOOL THAT THEN IS GOING TO WALK INTO A LITTLE GREEN, THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE POCKET PARK THAT GOES INTO THEN OUR LARGEST GREEN THAT'LL BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS A PARK THAT OUR HOPE IS THAT WE ARE GETTING KIDS TO WALK FROM CENTENNIAL INTO HERE.
THE PARENTS HAVE GOTTEN COFFEE UP AT THE LITTLE COFFEE STOP AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR KIDS HERE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY MORE FOR, THOSE ARE HOUSES, TWO STORY MAX.
THE THREE STORY STUFF THAT WE HAVE IS GONNA BE INTERNAL INSIDE OF OUR LITTLE COMMERCIAL CENTER.
WELL, I I'M NOT A FAN OF PUTTING STUFF, I MEAN, TWO STORY STRUCTURES OVERLOOKING A, A KID'S PLAYGROUND.
UM, AND WHEN I, WHEN I JOINED ON THIS BOARD, THEY SAID IF YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN ANYTHING, THEN YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
AND I THINK I HAVE SOMETHING MORE.
UH, I'M, I'M MORE, I HAVE MY CHILDREN THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, STRANGERS LOOKING, I MEAN, JUST WATCHING THEM ON THE PLAYGROUND.
SO I THINK I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM, FROM VOTING ON THIS ONE.
SO I, AND, AND MAYBE I JUST SO YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL, ALL OF THE HEIGHT DISCUSSION, ALL OF THAT WAS DONE ALREADY.
LIKE TH THIS IS JUST THE, THE PLAT, NOTHING ABOUT THIS CASE COULD TOUCH ON THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURES THAT WAS DONE IN 2003 BY THE ZONING OF THE SITE.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE LOTS, THE BLOCKS, THE DESIGN, NOT HEIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF FROM COMMISSIONERS.
IF, IF WE GRANT THE VARIANCE TO NOT WIDEN, UH, COFFEE CREEK, THAT DOESN'T BAR THE CITY FROM WIDENING IT AT A FUTURE DATE, DOES IT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT YOU ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT DEVELOPERS TYPICALLY DO THAT TODAY ON EVERY OTHER ONE AND IT COULD BE FIVE TO SIX YEARS CERTAINLY.
YES, I KNOW ON YOUR MIC VARIANCE LOT OF TIMES
I LIKE TO BASICALLY BE ANONYMOUS MOST OF THE TIME.
AND I GENERALLY TRY TO FOLLOW CITY STAFF'S SUPPORT DRASTICALLY.
SO WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS OF CITY STAFF IN REGARD TO THE VARIANCES? AND DOES CITY STAFF BELIEVE THAT THESE COULD POTENTIALLY BE RESOLVED IF WE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME? WHO WANTS TO ADDRESS IT? MR. BADY? KEITH, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER OR DO YOU MIND? YEAH, DO YOU MIND STARTING AT A, THAT WOULD HELP BE HELPFUL IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF YOU DON'T WANT, WELL A I THINK WE NEED TO REQUIRE THEM TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WIDENING VIEW.
SO I KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO, BUT IN THIS, AS THIS AREA DEVELOPS WITH THE DENSITY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND WITH THE OTHER AREA IN THAT AREA DEVELOP, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT QUITE A BIT MORE TRAFFIC ON COFFEE CREEK OVER TIME.
SO WE FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD WIDEN AS REQUIRED BY OUR CODE.
UM, LOOKING AT B UM, THEIR ROADS AND THEIR PILLOW PARKING IS AWFUL TIGHT.
UH, WE WONDER, WE'RE CONCERNED WHETHER IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO TIGHT.
UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WHERE THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL AREAS, YOU'VE GOT THIS TWO SEVEN FOOT PARALLEL PARKING SPOTS IN THE 20 FOOT, IN THE MIDDLE FOR TWO DRIVE LANES.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A UPS TRUCK, UM, AMAZON TRUCK OR SOMEBODY'S MAKING DELIVERIES AND STOP THERE, IS IT GO AND BLOCK THE ROAD AND BE A TEMPORARY, UH, BLOCKAGE OF THE ROAD.
UH, YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE TODAY, IF YOU BLOCK MY BLOCK IN FRONT OF ME, I'M IMPATIENT.
YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN ABOUT THE NARROWNESS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
WHETHER IT'LL SOME AT TIMES CAUSE A COMPLETE BLOCKAGE OF THE ROAD.
UH, SO THAT'S OUR CONCERN WITH THE PAVING INSIDE AND WITH THE, THE P PROPOSED PARALLEL PARKING.
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ON DOWN THE LIST HERE.QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT MR. BEATTY.
SO ON THAT, IF THEY HAD A A, A CENTRALIZED AREA FOR ALL MAIL-IN DELIVERIES, DOES THAT ALLEVIATE ANY OF THAT CONCERN OR NOT THAT COULD, THAT COULD HELP AND LI ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT CONCERN? OKAY.
C IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE GONNA BE ON C UM, C IS, UM, KIND OF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT B AND C TOGETHER, THE PARKING THE ROAD WITH IF, UM, ALLEY WIDTH IS A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH WHAT THEY'VE GOT PROPOSED THERE.
FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT IF SOMEBODY GOES UP IN THERE AND HAS TO TURN AROUND IF THEY'RE IN A FULL-SIZE VEHICLE, IS THEIR ADEQUATE ROOM REALLY FOR THEM TO TURN AROUND IN THE ALLEY TO DRIVE BACK OUT? UH, SOME OF THE ALLEYS ARE THROUGH FAIR, SO THAT'S NOT A CONCERN.
BUT I THINK SOME OF THE ALLEYS ARE KIND OF DEAD END.
SO IF YOU GO UP IN THE ALLEY, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND COME BACK OUT THE ALLEY THE SAME WAY.
SO JUST WHETHER THEY, IF SOMEBODY ENTERS IT, CAN THEY BACK TURN AROUND, COME OUT OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BACK OUT INTO THE MAIN STREET.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN WITH THE ALLEY WIDTH.
AND OF COURSE THAT ALSO TOUCHES, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THEIR EASEMENTS AND WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING ADEQUATE ROOM TO WORK ON EASEMENTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU DIG UP A SEWER LINE TAKES ROOM, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT'S GOT A WATER LINE IN IT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TOO TIGHT OF AN EASEMENT ON A WATERLINE IS CONCERNING FROM THE FIVE PACK THAT IF WE HAVE A WATERLINE BLOW OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY BLOW OUT A SIGNIFICANT AREA AROUND THEM SOMETIMES WHEN THEY HAVE A CRITICAL FAILURE OF A WATERLINE.
SO WE DON'T WANT STRUCTURES CLOSE ENOUGH TO THAT WATERLINE TO POTENTIALLY CAUSE DAMAGE TO STRUCTURES WITH A WATERLINE BLOW OUT.
SO THAT'S, UH, KIND OF OUR CONCERNS WITH THE WIDTH OF THE ALLEYWAY AND WITH THE EASEMENT.
UM, SO IN REGARDS TO THE ALLEYWAYS IS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO MAKE THEM ALL THROUGH FARES.
I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, WITH SOMEBODY NOT HAVING TO TURN AROUND TO DRIVE BACK OUT IF THEY DRIVE UP IN THERE? I MEAN THE UTILITIES ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
I MEAN THERE AGAIN WITH THE USE, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG A CONCERN THAT IS.
UH, YOU ASKED WHAT SOME OF THE STAFF'S CONCERNS ARE.
UH, SOME OF THIS, WE MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY AND HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AND HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME FARTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS WITH THEM.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE A LOT OF OUR CONCERNS ARE LYING COMING FROM AND WHY WE'RE NOT, UH, SUPPORTING A LOT OF THESE VARIANCES.
SO COULD LIKE A TURNABOUT AT THE END OF THE, THE UH, ALLEYWAYS POTENTIALLY SOLVE PART OF THE CONCERNS? I KNOW I DRIVE AN F TWO 50 PART OF THE TIME AND UH, THE TURN RADIUS ON IT IS TRYING TO PARK IN WALMART PARKING LOT.
I JUST PRAY WHEN I'M DOING THEM MANY TIMES.
AND HAVING A TURNAROUND, A LITTLE HAMMERHEAD IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT AT THE END OF IT, WOULD BE ONE WAY TO MAYBE ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
WELL, AND I NOTICED ON SOME OF THE, ON THE, SOME OF THE VARIANCES IT WAS THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPORT THEM IF YOU HAD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR ADDITIONAL TIME.
SO I WANNA SAY, UH, THE STAFF INDICATED MAYBE LIKE YOU NEEDED MORE TIME TO SORT OF PROCESS SOME OF THE ISSUES AT THIS POINT.
AND PART OF THE ISSUE MAY BE GETTING INTO THE KIND OF DETAILS WE NEED TO GET INTO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NARROWING UP UTILITY EASEMENTS.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT A SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT'S RUNNING FOUR FEET DEEP, WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH EASEMENT AS WE DO IF WE'VE GOT A SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT'S 10 FEET DEEP.
SO WITHOUT THE THEM HAVING GENERATED THE PLANS AND AT THIS POINT THEY'RE NOT READY TO GENERATE PLANS, YOU KNOW, AS THEY MOVE INTO THE FINAL PLAT, THEY'LL GENERATE THOSE PLANS AND AT THAT POINT IT'LL BE EASIER TO HAVE MORE CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE COULD ALLOW AND HOW WE COULD LOOK AT REDUCING THE EASEMENT IN SOME CASES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR APPLICANT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, I LIVE AT THE VANILLA PROPERTY THAT'S THREE TWO ZERO EIGHT WIND CALL LANE, WHICH IS IN, UH, CENTENNIAL AT IRON HORSE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND I HAD SENT IN A FILE LAST WEEK FOR TO PUT UP, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF ANYBODY RECEIVED THAT.
JUST TO MAKE MY POINT GRAPHICALLY QUICKLY.
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YES PLEASE.RIGHT ALL I'M UP HERE TO ASK FOR MY PROPERTY'S THE CORNER PROPERTY AGAIN.
IT'S 3 2 0 8 THAT'S SHOWN UP THERE.
IT'S THE ONLY PROPERTY RIGHT NOW THAT IS UP AGAINST THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOME SORT OF A BUFFER.
AND GIVEN THAT THERE WAS A SETBACK VARIANCE OF ZERO, UH, GIVEN DURING THE INITIAL UH, ZONING, UM, RIGHT NOW AND YOU JUST HEARD IT FROM THE ENGINEER, THEY'RE PLANNING ON PUSHING THESE STRUCTURES UP TO THE ZERO LOT LINE.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOME SORT OF A BUFFER BETWEEN, UM, IT'S IN SECTION 54, LOT ONE AND MY PROPERTY.
SO I DON'T HAVE A BUILDING, UH, POSSIBLY A TWO PLUS STORY BUILDING RIGHT UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY LINE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PROPER TIME FOR THIS OR IF THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE FINAL PLAT DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S MY REQUEST.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSED PROJECT? OKAY, HEARING NONE, UH, WE HAVE QUESTIONED DAVID OR JONATHAN.
YOU GUYS WANT TO JUST ADDRESS THAT COMMENT OF THE CITIZEN? WELL, YEAH, LET'S ZOOM IN ON WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE.
IS THAT, IS THAT A COMMON SPACE ON THOSE TWO THAT'S BORDERING THAT, IS THAT PART OF THE AREA WHERE THE TREES WERE OVER THERE? OH, IT'S LOT ONE THAT IS LOT ONE BLOCK 54.
YEAH, THAT IS NEAR, YEAH, THAT IS JUST SOUTH OF THE AREA.
SO YOU DO HAVE THE COMMON AREA ALONG THE SOUTH COMMON AREA 12, RIGHT? YEP.
AND THEN WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S LAID OUT IS, IS OUR HOUSES WITH A, WITH A A DRIVEWAY WITH THE GARAGE THERE TO GO ON THAT, ON THAT CORNER.
YEAH, YOU HAVE THE COMMENT AREA, BUT I THINK WHAT HE WAS ASKING WAS THAT LOT ONE BLOCK 54 RIGHT THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE JUST A LITTLE PIECE RIGHT THERE.
UH, I IT'S, LET'S GET INTO DETAIL, BUT YEAH, I MEAN I THINK WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT OKAY.
I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH 'EM.
WE CAN JUST LOTS AND SLIDE THINGS SOUTH.
I THINK SCREENING OR SOMETHING.
REDUCE THE, THE DEPTH OF THOSE A HUNDRED FOOT LOTS AND PUSH THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE THAT EXTRA ROUND.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OF ANY COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? UH, DO WE WANT TO, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE ALWAYS VOTED ON, UM, THE VARIANCE ALL AT ONCE.
DO WE WANT TO VOTE ON EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY OR, UM, BECAUSE I, I, HERE I WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU WANT TO VOTE, SUBJECT TO NOT INCLUDING A VARIANCE, MAKE YOUR MOTION SUBJECT TO NOT INCLUDING OR NOT APPROVING THE, THE NUMBER OF THE VARIANCE.
SO IF YOU WANNA SAY YOU WANT A NOT TO BE APPROVED, UH, MY VOTE SHOULD BE SUBJECT AS PRESENTED, EXCLUDING A, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL FIND A WITHDRAW A ON OUR COURT.
OKAY, SO A IS ALREADY STRICT AND SO WE'LL VOTE.
SO ANYTHING WE DO AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
THE, THE VARIANCE ON A IS NO LONGER IN PLAY.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE VOTE THAT WAY.
IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THOUGH, I'D RECOMMEND YOU IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO STATE IT WITH THAT VARIANCE NOT INCLUDED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY? OKAY.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND I WILL MOTION WITHOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE, WITHOUT A, SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE AS PRESENTED IS TO NOT INCLUDE A AS A VARIANCE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND BY A MOTION OF THREE TO ONE.
THIS DOES CARRY ON OR HIS MOTION IS APPROVED AND WILL BE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 11TH, 2025.
ITEM FIVE IS CITIZENS' COMMENT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL MOVE ON TO ANY COMMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR OR MEMBERS.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NOPE.
WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ARE WE GONNA START VOTING ON THE ADJOURNMENT WITH THESE LITTLE BUTTONS? LATE
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MARK, PUSH BUTTON.