Aug 05, 2025 Planning Commission

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ALL RIGHT,

[1. Call to Order of the Edmond Planning Commission.]

UM, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO CHIP WINTER FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

ALRIGHT, BRIAN, UH, FIRST

[2. General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Planning Commission. Members of the Planning Commission may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY PULL ANY ITEM UNDER GENERAL CONSENT FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL SEE NONE.

UM, CAN I HEAR A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THOSE TWO ITEMS? MOTION TO APPROVE THE GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.

UH, NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE, UH, ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WINTER.

MOVING ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE'LL START WITH

[A. Case No. Z24-00015; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “A” Single-Family Dwelling District to “PUD Z24-00015” Villas at Kickingbird Planned Unit Development, located at 2700 East Danforth Road. (Sun Properties; Ward 2)]

THANK YOU.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO PUDZ 24 TRIPLE ZERO 15.

VILLA IS AT KICKING BIRD FOR THE APPROXIMATE FIVE ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DANFORTH, JUST WEST OF COLTRANE.

THE MAP, UH, THE PUD PROPOSES UP TO 49 TOWNHOUSE UNITS WITH THE ACCOMPANYING AMENITIES SUCH AS A CLUBHOUSE, POOL, PARK, ET CETERA.

THESE ARE THE ONLY ALLOWED USES SPECIFIED IN THE DESIGN STATEMENT.

THE HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO TWO STORY STRUCTURES AND OR 35 FEET.

A RECENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE SAME NAME WAS APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH RECATEGORIZED IT TO SUBURBAN INFILL, SPECIFICALLY TO ACCOMMODATE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SUBURBAN INFILL SUPPORTS AND ENCOURAGES A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES AND HELPS TO CREATE A GRACEFUL TRANSITION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THE PROPOSED PUD MEETS THE INTENT OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CATEGORY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOPE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF? ARE WE GONNA SEE THE DISPLAY? OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

WOULD THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? UH, DAVID BOX 5 25 NORTHWEST 11TH HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS HERE WITH US AS WELL.

UM, AS STAFF INDICATED, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS CHANGED TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO IT IS IN LINE WITH THAT.

WE'VE LIMITED THE DENSITY THROUGHOUT THE, THE PUD AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER EACH BUILDING.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, PERHAPS YOU'LL SEE A MAP.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF? UH, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WILL BE PRESENTED? DO WE HAVE ANY ELEVATIONS OF THE, OF THE TOWN HOMES? NO.

WE HAVE WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE, THE PUD THAT WAS ATTACHED, UH, THE EXHIBITS ATTACHED TO THE PUD.

YOU'D SEE A SITE PLAN, UH, AND KIND OF A LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH GREEN.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF NOW THAT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP AS WELL? SEEING NONE.

ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? ANY FOR AGAINST, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, UM, MOVING ON TO LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND.

AND THAT AGENDA ITEM, UH, PASSES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND MOVES TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 25TH, 2025.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA

[B. Case No. Z25-00015; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “D-2” Neighborhood Commercial to “PUD Z25-00015” 4691 W. I-35 Frontage Road Planned Unit Development, located on the north side of Memorial Road, on the west side of I-35 Frontage Road. (Kalidy, LLC; Ward 3)]

THANK YOU.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A REZONING FROM THE REPEALED D TWO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT

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THE PUD PROPOSES A SINGLE STRUCTURE NOT TO EXCEED FIVE STORIES WITH UP TO 125 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND GROUND LEVEL RETAIL AND AMENITY SPACES.

THE DESIGN STATEMENT SPECIFIES A VARIETY OF USES, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, HOUSEHOLD LIVING, LIBRARY, PARK OFFICES, AND RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY WITHIN THE I 35 PLAN CATEGORY.

THE I 35 CATEGORY REQUIRES HIGH INTENSE ACTIVITY, INCLUDING EMPLOYMENT, RETAIL, AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY TO I 35 ALLOWS FOR THE CATEGORY TO ENCOURAGE STRUCTURES THAT ARE FOUR STORIES OR MORE AND BE DESIGNED TO BOTH BE ATTRACTIVE AND PROVIDE EASY ACCESS.

THE PROPOSED PUD MEETS THE INTENT OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CATEGORY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? OKAY, MR. BOX, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? YES.

ONCE AGAIN, DAVID BOX 5 25 NORTHWEST 11TH.

SO THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION THAT WAS FILED PREVIOUSLY, UH, FOR A 10 STORY PROJECT.

WE GOT A GOOD AMOUNT OF CONCERN AND, UM, INQUIRY FROM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE HAD A SERIES OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS IN WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.

AGAIN, IT WAS 10 STORY AT THE TIME.

UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS WAS THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE WITHDREW THAT APPLICATION, WENT BACK, UH, HAD THE ARCHITECTS GET BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO SEE WHAT, WHAT COULD STILL BE DONE THAT WOULD WORK, UH, BOTH FINANCIALLY, BUT ALSO IN KEEPING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS DEMANDING US TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN OTHER PARTS OF EDMOND BECAUSE OF OUR PROXIMITY TO I 35.

AND WHAT THE RESULT WAS, WAS A A FIVE STORY BUILDING, UH, STILL ALLOWED US TO HAVE THE, UH, MIXED USE COMPONENT.

UM, WE RESUBMITTED THAT WE DID REACH BACK OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS, SHARED THE PUD SHARED THE REDUCTION IN HEIGHT.

UH, I, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME FOLKS HERE, SO PERHAPS THE HEIGHT IS STILL, UM, A CONCERN FOR THEM.

BUT LUCKILY YOU'RE GUIDED BY YOUR CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT STAFF, UH, LAID OUT AND, AND WALKED YOU THROUGH.

THAT IS DEMANDING A TALLER BUILDING HERE.

UH, SPECIFICALLY TALLER THAN FOUR STORIES IN WHAT WE HAVE IS FIVE.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER AT THIS MOMENT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR TO THE ARCHITECTS AND LET HER WALK THROUGH THE DESIGN, WALK THROUGH THE VISION, UH, AND THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

MY NAME'S SARAH HANNAH, I'M WITH GARDNER STUDIO.

UM, SO LIKE DAVID MENTIONED, UH, WE HAD KIND OF A PREVIOUS PLAN IN PLACE AND AFTER HEARING SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UM, WE CHOSE TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THE IDEA.

AND SOME OF THAT STARTED WITH ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING, UH, CITY PLANS THAT WERE IN PLACE AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE.

UM, AND SO LIKE DAVID HAS SAID, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THE ADMIN PLAN FROM 2018, IN ADDITION, THE EAST ADMIN PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE, BOTH OF WHICH START TO COMMUNICATE, UM, THINGS OF HIGHER DENSITY ALONG THAT I 35 CORRIDOR.

AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS SITE, UM, SOME BREAKDOWNS OF MULTIFAMILY USES IN ADDITION TO RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS.

UM, AND SO BUILDING ON THAT, WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS STILL OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A USE, JUST LIKE WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, KNOWING THAT HEIGHTS A CONCERN, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ALONG I 35.

SO STARTING TO JUST KIND OF ANALYZE, UM, WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE, HOW TALL THEY ARE, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, UM, AND JUST STARTING TO BUILD ON SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE THAT'S BEING ESTABLISHED.

UM, THAT'S A MIXTURE OF MEDICAL FACILITIES, UM, COMMERCIAL USES, HOTELS, UM, OTHER TALL STRUCTURES THAT WE FIND TO BE, UH, RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION TODAY.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE SPENT SOME TIME WITH A DRONE ON THE SITE JUST KIND OF ANALYZING WHAT THESE DIFFERENT STORIES WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND THIS WAS WHEN WE WERE STILL CONSIDERING A 10 STORY OPTION.

SO WE JUST KIND OF TOOK STOCK OF IF YOU GO UP EACH FLOOR, WHAT YOUR VIS VISIBILITY REALLY LOOKS LIKE TO THE NORTH, THE SOUTH, THE EAST AND THE WEST.

UM, SO THIS JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU A CATALOG OF THOSE IMAGES THAT WERE COLLECTED.

UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, THIS IS A, A FEW IMAGES OF ONLY THE FIVE STORY OPTION AND, AND WHAT YOUR VISIBILITY LOOKS LIKE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION, UM, THAT THESE IMAGES THAT I'M SHOWING THAT ARE LARGER ARE REALLY ONLY TO THE WEST BECAUSE THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WAS OF CONCERN AT THE TIME.

UM, THE, THE, UH, APPLICATION AND, AND THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY CITY STAFF INDICATES THAT THE LOT TO THE NORTH IS EMPTY.

WE'VE GOT A COMMERCIAL LOT KIND OF TO THE SOUTH OF

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SO THIS IS YOUR VIEW IF YOU'RE ON LEVEL TWO LOOKING WEST.

UM, AND AT THE WINTER TIME, THE, THE LEAVES ARE MINIMAL, SO YOU HAVE PRETTY CLEAR VISIBILITY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT.

UM, SO WE JUST KIND OF MOVED UP STORY BY STORY AND STARTED TO DOCUMENT WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR VANTAGE POINT REALLY LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS VERY LIMITED OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, AND THAT WE WERE RECEIVING SOME CONCERNS FROM.

UM, SO WE TOOK ALL THAT INFORMATION AND, AND LIKE DAVID SAID, KIND OF WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND DEVELOPED A FIVE STORY OPTION.

SO THE DIAGRAMS THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE PREVIOUS DESIGN, WHICH WAS A 10 STORY BUILDING, MULTI-FAMILY, SOME COMMERCIAL USES ON THE GROUND FLOOR INTO KIND OF OFFSET THE DENSITY OF THAT BUILDING.

WE WERE PROVIDING A, A PARKING STRUCTURE IN THIS NEW VERSION.

WE'VE ELIMINATED THAT SEPARATE PARKING STRUCTURE.

WE'VE REDUCED THE BUILDING TO FIVE STORIES.

AS A RESULT WE'RE, WE'RE REDUCING THE UNIT COUNT, UM, BUT STILL PROVIDING THE, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, AND A COMPONENT ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL, UM, FUNCTIONS, UH, AS THE PROJECT GETS DEVELOPED.

UM, SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU, YOU KIND OF SAW IN THAT ORIGINAL SUBMISSION, AND IT JUST GIVES YOU AN INDICATION OF WHAT THAT SURFACE PARKING LAYOUT WOULD START TO LOOK LIKE ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND WHERE SOME OF THOSE, UH, BUILT COMPONENTS WOULD COME INTO PLACE.

IN ADDITION, IT'S STARTING TO JUST KIND OF OUTLINE WHAT THAT BUILDING LOOKS LIKE ABOVE SOME OF THOSE, THOSE USES.

UM, AND THESE ARE ALL VERY PRELIMINARY IN NATURE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO IDENTIFY DENSITY OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND WHAT COULD FIT ON THE SITE.

SO THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPE COMPONENTS ARE OBVIOUSLY OF A CONCERN AND, AND WOULD BE ADDRESSED AS WE DEVELOP THE SITE PLAN FURTHER.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE MASSING DIAGRAM TO ILLUSTRATE THE NUMBER OF STORIES, THE QUANTITY OF UNITS IDENTIFYING KINDA SITE ENTRY POINTS OFF OF MEMORIAL AND THE I 35, UM, SERVICE CORRIDOR.

UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OUTDOOR COMPONENTS AND, AND LANDSCAPING THAT WE WOULD WANNA IDENTIFY AS SCREENS BETWEEN THIS, THIS STRUCTURE AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

UM, AND THEN THE RENDERING THAT WE'VE PROVIDED IS, IS MEANT TO BE PRELIMINARY IN NATURE, BUT AT LEAST HELP YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF, UM, SCALE OF THE ARCHITECTURE, COMPONENTS OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE MATERIALS.

UM, AND JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH SOME OF THESE THOUGHTS.

SO YEAH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, IF YOU HAVE THEM.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? YES SIR.

I HAD, UH, I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED IT.

WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FIVE STORY? I MEAN, WHAT'S A FEET, HOW MANY FEET? 60, 60 FEET.

AND THERE'S A, UM, UM, SOME TYPE OF A, SOMETHING ON THE ROOF WE ALLOW FOR A, A ROOFTOP DECK.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, REGARDING THE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

YES SIR.

ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS, UH, AS FAR AS LIKE, I MEAN, ARE WE LIKE VAPE SHOPS, LIQUOR STORES, OR ARE WE PUTTING ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WE WON'T ALLOW? 'CAUSE I KNOW IT SAYS RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD ADD TO IT THAT MIGHT HELP THE MAKE THE NEIGHBORS FEEL BETTER? SO WE'RE, YEAH.

I MEAN, IF THE NEIGHBORS HAD SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO TO ADDRESS THAT.

OKAY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HEARD ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS RELATED TO THAT.

UM, THIS IS OUR GOAL IS FOR THIS TO BE A, A HIGH QUALITY PROJECT.

MM-HMM.

AND SO ANY USES THAT WOULD TEND TO NOT LEND ITSELF TO A HIGH QUALITY PROJECT, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO THINK THROUGH REMOVING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE DO, YOU KNOW, ON PAGE THREE OF THE, UM MM-HMM.

OF THE, PUT WE, WE LIST OUT THE USES SPECIFICALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT RETAIL IS, IS PERHAPS A, A BROAD CATEGORY.

YEAH.

UH, SO IF THERE WERE SPECIFICS IN THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONER OF THE APPLICANTS? SEEING NONE NOW, WE WILL, UH, REQUEST PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO IS, ONCE SOMEBODY'S ASKED THE SAME QUESTION, PLEASE DON'T ASK IT AGAIN.

'CAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANNA TALK, WHICH IS GREAT.

SO LET'S, UH, BEGIN THE PROCESS.

PLEASE STEP TO THE DICE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

PAULA BURKES, 45 0 1 KAREN DRIVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO RYAN AND MARK, YOU ALL KNOW I LIVE AT EDMUND OAKS AND I HAVE SOME GRASSROOTS VOLUNTEERS BACK HERE.

UM, ALRIGHT.

WE'RE HAPPY THAT IT GOT KNOCKED DOWN TO FIVE STORIES, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME MAJOR CONCERNS, INCLUDING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE PUSHED ONTO 1.5 ACRES.

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BUT DON'T JUST GIVE THIS TO HIM BECAUSE YOU SHUT HIM DOWN THEN, BECAUSE THIS IS A SERIOUS INTERSECTION.

I 35 AND MEMORIAL, THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE COMING INTO EDMOND, IT'S THE GATEWAY PROPERTY COMING TO ED WAY.

EDMOND, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE THAT SOUTH ON I 35 THING THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS, INCLUDING, AS YOU KNOW, THE NORTH SIDE OF I 35 OF MEMORIAL IS EDMOND, THE SOUTH SIDE IS OKLAHOMA CITY.

IF THERE DOES NEED TO BE A TRAFFIC, UM, SIGNAL THERE, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? I KNOW DURING THE MAYORAL DEBATES, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS BEFORE YOU APPROVE PUDS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENS WITH YOU OR YOU'RE GONNA KICK IT ONTO THE COUNCIL AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT THERE.

BUT THIS IS A REAL CONCERN.

A FEW OF US THIS MORNING WENT TO MEET WITH MAGGIE AND PHIL AND WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THOSE TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE AND WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW COUNCIL AND HOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW THAT IN EDMOND, THE BIG CONCERN IS BRINGING IN INCOME FOR OUR BUDGET.

AND THAT APARTMENT BUILDING IS NOT THE SAME AS A, A HIGH, YOU KNOW, SALES THING THAT'S GONNA BRING PEOPLE TO THAT LOCATION.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BAR ON THE FIFTH FLOOR WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE PARKED ALONG THE I 30.

WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY MIGHT DO IF IT BECOMES A HOTSPOT.

NO, WE DON'T REALLY WANT A BAR ON THE FIFTH FLOOR THAT'S GONNA HAVE NOISE CONCERNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT YES, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THAT CORNER.

WE'RE NOT SAYING NO DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE SAYING PUT A TON OF PEOPLE ON 1.5 ACRES AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRY TO GO SOUTH ON I 35 NORTH ON I 35.

MY HUSBAND AND I RECENTLY, HIS, UH, CAR IS BEING SERVICED IN GUTHRIE.

SO WE WERE GOING OUT KIND OF DURING RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, RUSH AIR TRAFFIC.

UH, THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE WORKING.

LIKE THIS MORNING WE LEARNED THAT I, I'VE GOT IT BACKWARDS, I'M SURE 79% AND 76%, ONE OF THOSE PERCENTAGES GOES OUT OF TOWN TO WORK.

THE OTHER PERCENTAGES COMES INTO TOWN TO WORK THAT I 35 IS A ISSUE.

JUST LIKE THAT COVEL WAS WHEN YOU WERE, UH, LOOKING AT THE WALMART THING.

WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING BEFORE WE DO ALL THIS.

WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC SIGNALS, TRAFFIC STUDIES, WE DON'T NEED TO JUST CRAM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT SPOT.

AND LASTLY, I KNOW THAT IT'S HISTORY, IT'S NOT HISTORY.

FOR THOSE OF US THAT DID IT, WE'RE TALKING LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO, 70% OF THE CITY VOTED NOT TO HAVE A BIG COMPLEX JUST SOUTH OF WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW, JUST SOUTH.

AND I KNOW IT WASN'T THE SAME ATTORNEY.

I KNOW IT WASN'T THE SAME DEVELOPER, BUT 70, MORE THAN 70% OF PEOPLE SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THERE.

I MEAN, DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON THAT.

WE HAD TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL THROUGH A BOGUS LAWSUIT, UNETHICAL CRAP.

PEOPLE CALLING THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED OUR REFERENDUM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I JUST WANT YOU TO REALLY GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO JUST PUTTING THIS THERE.

AND WHEN I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED THERE.

AND WE NEED SALES PRODUCING INCOME, SALES TAX, PRODUCING INCOME, NOTHING THAT'S A PROBLEM DURING RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, CONSIDER THE PEOPLE THAT INVESTED THERE THAT THAT'S OUR BIG INVESTMENT.

YOU KNOW, FOR MOST OF MY TIME THAT I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER, I WAS A SINGLE MOM THERE.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULDN'T BE GIVING DEVELOPERS MORE ATTENTION THAN THE RESIDENTS, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT BOUGHT THERE.

YOU KNOW, UH, THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT THE GRAND PLAN, IT FITS IN THE GRAND PLAN YOU DO.

YOU ALL, LIKE WE LEARNED TODAY FROM OUR COUNCIL PERSONS THAT WE SPOKE WITH, WE'RE YOUR BOSSES.

LISTEN TO US.

ANYONE ELSE SPEAK, WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? LORI SCOTT.

45 0 5 KAREN DRIVE.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT ANYTHING THAT PAULA SAID AS YOU DIRECTED, BUT ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS THAT A CONCERN THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS IS THAT ONCE WE GET PAST ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT CAN BE DONE, PREFERABLY BEFORE THE PET IS APPROVED AND BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, SO THAT OUR CONCERNS ABOUT RUSH HOUR

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ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE WOULD HAVE, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDRESSED IS ON SUCH A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE AMENITIES ARE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE APARTMENT THAT WOULD DRAW IN THE TYPE OF CLIENTELE THAT THEY ARE REACHING OUT TO A LUXURY TYPE APARTMENT, UM, FOR SIMILAR TYPE PROPERTIES.

WE'RE USED TO SEEING DOG PARKS, WALKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS, OUTSIDE OUTDOOR KITCHENS, AND NOT HAVING THE HIGHWAY LIGHTING AND THE HIGHWAY NOISE JUST IMMEDIATELY ON THE BUILDING WITHIN FEET FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

AND IF THIS PROP, IF THIS PROJECT WAS TO GO THROUGH FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEIGHBORS, THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO SEE, SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE OUTDOOR AMENITIES THAT A LUXURY CLIENTELE WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? OKAY.

ANDY NELSON.

UH, 1 3, 4 0 8 OLD IRON ROAD, EDMOND.

UM, SO I HAVE HUGE APPRECIATION FOR LANDSCAPING.

WE'VE GOT A LANDSCAPE BUSINESS, NELSON LANDSCAPING, AND I, I THINK LIKE THE WAY THE HOSPITALS BUILT THEIR PROPERTIES FURTHER BACK, THEY'RE HIDDEN.

UH, EVEN SAM'S WALMART, YOU DRIVE DOWN EDMOND, IT'S JUST A, A BEAUTIFUL, UH, HIGHWAY CONSIDERING HOW MUCH, UH, BUSINESS, HOSPITALS, EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT GOING ON.

UH, I THINK EDMOND'S DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB KEEPING IT BEAUTIFUL.

I THINK A A LOT OF US TAKE PRIDE IN THAT.

UH, LIKE SOME OTHER SENTIMENTS SUPER HAPPY.

IT'S NO LONGER 10 STORIES, BUT EVEN FIVE STORIES THAT'S, THAT'S TALLER THAN THE HOSPITAL.

UH, BOTH HOSPITALS, BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.

THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NOTHING, UM, THAT'S REMOTELY CLOSE TO FIVE STORIES.

AND THOSE TALLER BUILDINGS ARE HIDDEN.

SO, UH, I JUST THINK THIS WILL BE A SPECTACLE.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S ALREADY SAID, INVESTED IN, IN THAT AREA, UH, YOU KNOW, I I JUST THINK AESTHETICALLY IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA DETRACT.

UM, AND WE'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB TO THIS POINT.

I HATE TO GET, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ROUNDING THIRD BASE, GETTING MOST OF THIS, THESE SITES DEVELOPED.

UH, I JUST, I HATE TO SEE LIKE THE TAIL END OF THIS, SOME SPECTACLE OF A BUILDING.

LIKE I'M ALL FOR, UH, CHEAPER HOUSING.

I, I KNOW EDMUND NEEDS IT.

UM, I, I HAVE AN INVESTOR MYSELF AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS EVEN A SMALLER APARTMENT COMPLEX, I COULD SEE.

BUT, UH, FIVE STORIES IS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CONCERN FOR THE AESTHETICS.

UM, AND I, I SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME SENTIMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN SAID, SO I WON'T REPEAT.

BUT, UH, I, I DO THINK IT WAS REALLY GOOD BROUGHT UP LIKE THE, THE LACK OF AMENITIES.

LIKE WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GO? LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE, LIKE WHAT ARE THEY GONNA BE DOING? SO, UM, BUT MOSTLY THE POINT THAT HADN'T BEEN MADE IS JUST THE CORE I 35 CORRIDOR FROM, UH, MEMORIAL TO COVE IS JUST, IT'S REMAINED BEAUTIFUL DESPITE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED.

SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

I AM JOHN CURTIS.

I LIVE AT UH, 36 0 9 LEAH COURT IN EDMOND OAKS.

AND I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT ANYTHING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO JUST ASK THAT YOU MAKE A VISIT TO THIS PROPERTY IF YOU HAVEN'T.

AND IMAGINE TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT FROM THAT LOCATION ON MEMORIAL AND THE ACCESS ROAD BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF BOTH LOCATIONS TRYING TO GO IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE TEXAS TURNAROUND, UH, PORTIONS OF THE INTERSTATE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO SOUTH, YOU'VE GOTTA CROSS A LANE OF TRAFFIC, TURN NORTH AND THEN TURN BACK SOUTH.

AND THEN OF COURSE ON MEMORIAL IT'S JUST FOUR LANE ALREADY AND YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN A HUNDRED CARS THAT'LL BE GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE EVERY DAY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

HI, I'M LISA COY.

I AM AT 1 3 6 1 7 OLD IRON ROAD.

AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, I DON'T KNOW, HAS THERE

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HOW IS THAT GONNA IMPACT, UM, OR NOT TRANSPORTATION, BUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC COUNT.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DEQ ISSUE THAT COULD BE THERE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF HOW THE STATE OWNED IT AND SOME OF THE DUMPING THAT THEY HAD DONE BEFORE.

HAS THAT ALL BEEN ADDRESSED? THOSE ARE KIND OF MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS, UH, PROJECT? THIS IS THE ONLY TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS.

I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL CLEAR.

THERE WE GO.

NORMALLY I DON'T ALLOW TWICE.

I'LL ALLOW THIS ONE TIME.

ONE TIME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ERIC , .

WE'VE KINDA HAD A PRESENCE OF THAT, SO THANK YOU.

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ERIC TUCKER, 45 0 1 KAREN DRIVE.

WHAT IS THE ORDINANCE ON A PUD? UH, HOW MANY STORIES CAN THAT BE? WE'VE HEARD IT'S THREE STORIES.

DO YOU HAVE THAT WHERE WE CAN SEE THAT MULTIFAMILY, THE MULTIFAMILY PUD WHAT, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OR THE MAXIMUM FLOORS FOR A A PUD UNIT? WE'VE HEARD IT'S THREE STORIES.

THIS IS FIVE.

I GUESS I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY A HUD UNIT.

MULTI HU BECAUSE HUD IS NOT A MULTI STORY, MULTI-STORY FACILITY.

OKAY.

FOR FAMILY DWELLING.

HOW TALL CAN THAT BE? HOW MANY STORIES CAN THAT BE? OKAY.

AND THEN THE ORDINANCE, WE ALSO, UH, WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN WE TALKED TO MR. KTI AND MR. BOX THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE NO, UH, BARBECUES, THERE WOULD NOT BE A DECK.

'CAUSE ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS, OKAY, NOW YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE HANGING OUT UP ON THE TOP FLOOR AND WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE LOSING SOME OF OUR, UM, UH, HOLINESS, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S HARD TO SAY.

UH, OUR PRIVATE, UH, ABILITY WE'RE, WE THINK WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME OF THAT IF WE HAVE A DECK UP THERE OR, UH, WHEREVER, WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING UP THERE.

UM, WE THOUGHT WE'D ELIMINATED THE, THE DECK OR THE, UH, FAMILY AREA FOR THE, UH, APARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE JUST VACANT.

AND ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT TOO ON THE WEST SIDE, NORTH SIDE WAS NOT TO HAVE A BALCONY FOR THE APARTMENTS.

UH, THEY DIDN'T SHOW THAT IN THE, UH, DIAGRAM EITHER.

SO IS THERE BALCONIES ON THE APARTMENTS? OKAY.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST GOING ONCE? GOING TWICE.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

MR. BOX, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND WE WILL TRY TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

I KNOW YOU WERE WRITING DOWN SOME AS WELL.

YES.

YOU WANNA START? YEAH.

AND PLEASE, PLEASE STATE THE QUESTION OR THE WHAT YOU'RE SURE AIMING TO ANSWER.

I'LL, I'LL START THE, THE LAST QUESTION.

IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE PROHIBITING TALLER THAN FREE STORY IN A PUD, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING.

UM, OF COURSE A PUD IS AN ORDINANCE IN AND OF ITSELF, UM, THAT WOULD DICTATE THE HEIGHT.

SO UNLESS, I MEAN, I WOULD DEFER TO KEN, BUT I'M UNAWARE OF ANY SUCH PROVISION IN THE EDMOND ORDINANCES THAT WOULD LIMIT HEIGHT TO THREE STORIES IN A POD.

AND I BELIEVE THE PUD THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING SAYS 60 FEET OR FIVE STORIES.

YES.

OKAY.

AND, AND, AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO YOUR, UM, STAFF REPORT, WHAT THIS AREA OF THE CITY UNDER THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN SAYS IS THE CATEGORY SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT BUILDINGS GREATER THAN FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT OR APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO INTERSTATE ITSELF.

AND WE A BUT ON OUR EAST ODOT RIGHT AWAY.

SO WE ARE AS CLOSE TO THE INTERSTATE AS YOU CAN GET.

THAT IS WHERE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TELLING YOU HEIGHT IS APPROPRIATE.

UM, I'VE NEVER VIEWED A PLANNING COMMISSION OR EVEN A CITY COUNCIL, BUT SPECIFICALLY A PLANNING COMMISSION AS BEING THE EMPLOYEE OF THE CITIZENRY OF ANY CITY.

UH, SO TO COME UP AND STATE THAT THEY ARE YOUR BOSS, I, I THINK IS A BIT MISGUIDED.

I THINK YOU ARE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL AND YOU ARE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL TO SERVE, UH, FREE OF CONSTITUENTS.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN MISSIONS OF A PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO ADMINISTER, UH, OBJECTIVELY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THAT IN SITUATIONS, JUST AS THIS, YOU'RE GUIDED BY THE PRINCIPLES THAT THE CITY THROUGH

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AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, UM, HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE APPROPRIATE.

A FIVE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING, UH, IN THE, THE CENTER OF THE CITY OR IN A MORE SUBURBAN PART OF THE CITY, PERHAPS WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE AND INAPPROPRIATE UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INSTEAD HERE UNDER THE I 35 PLAN, NOT ONLY IS IT APPROPRIATE, BUT IT'S REALLY WHAT IS REQUIRED.

WE WANT HIGHER INTENSITY USES NEXT TO THE INTERSTATE.

UM, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT IT, THAT'S WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.

THE, THE STUDY THAT THAT SARAH SHOWED, YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER BUILDINGS AND NOT TOO FAR, UM, OF SIMILAR HEIGHTS.

SO NOW IN TERMS OF THE AMENITY SPACE, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING WHAT THE FINAL AMENITIES WOULD BE.

THIS OF COURSE IS ZONING, SO WE'RE TALKING HEIGHTS AND SETBACK AND YOU KNOW, DENSITY AND PARKING AND THOSE THINGS.

UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE MORE CONCEPTUALIZED AMENITIES SPACE.

IT'S HARD TO DESIGN ALL THE AMENITIES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ASSURANCES ON YOUR ENTITLEMENTS.

UM, WE DON'T WANNA PROMISE THINGS THAT ULTIMATELY, UH, DON'T GET BILL.

UM, IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, WHATEVER YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TELLS US WE HAVE TO DO BY WAY OF TRAFFIC IS WHAT WE'LL DO.

UM, WE MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE PUT IN TERMS OF GENERATING SALES TAX.

UH, THE, THE, THE USE OF A BAR WAS MENTIONED.

WE DON'T ALLOW A BAR.

UM, WE DO ALLOW SALES TAX GENERATION IN THE FORM OF RETAIL.

PERHAPS THERE'S A COFFEE SHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO IT WILL BE A COMPONENT OF NOT ONLY LIVING, BUT ALSO THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE SALES TAX, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR, FOR CITIES.

UM, THE DEQ REGS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO, BUT WHATEVER THE CITY OR THE STATE WOULD REQUIRE IN TERMS OF COMPLIANCE WITH DEQ REGS, WE WILL OF COURSE, UH, ADHERE TO THEM.

UM, I KNOW, AND I KNOW AGAIN, THIS IS STILL ZONING VERSUS SITE PLANNER, THAT STUFF, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, DO YOU CARE TO TOUCH ON THE, I THE TOPIC OF THE BALCONIES IS IS IT PROPOSED? IS IT CONCEPTUALIZE THE MOMENT IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, TALK ABOUT THE, THE ROOFTOP FOR US, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.

SURE.

START AT THE ROOFTOP.

SO, UM, THAT'S CONCEPTUAL.

WE DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO HAVE SOME AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IN TERMS OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED ON THE ROOF, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO, PERHAPS IT'S LIMITED TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE EAST HALF OF THE ROOF SO THAT THE WEST HALF WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE, THE NEIGHBORS DOESN'T FEEL THAT IMPACT BALCONY'S THE SAME WAY.

UH, CONCEPTUAL.

WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME ELEMENT OF, OF BALCONIES AND, AND OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE BUILDING.

UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC LOCATION, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

WHEN IT WAS 10 STORIES IN HEIGHT, WE WERE TALKING THROUGH PROHIBITIONS ON CERTAIN LEVELS.

WHEN YOU REDUCE IT DOWN TO FIVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

BUT AT SITE PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE THOSE SPECIFICS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM AGAIN, TO, TO TRY TO FORMULATE THOSE AREAS THAT, UH, PERHAPS WE DO PROHIBIT CERTAIN AREAS FROM HAVING BALCONIES OR, UH, ROOF.

ROOF DECK SPACE.

AND ONE THING THAT I THINK WAS A LITTLE BIT TOUCHED ON, BUT NOT REALLY IS, IS THERE A LIMITATION ON THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL, YOU KNOW, NON RESIDENTIAL SPACE.

IS THERE A LIMITATION ON THIS PUD WITH HOW MUCH CAN BE NON-RESIDENTIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE NO TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? YEAH, NOT SPECIFICALLY.

I, I THINK WE'RE SAFE IN SAYING IT'S LIMITED TO THE GROUND FLOOR.

SO, SO WE, I MEAN WE COULD STIPULATE RIGHT.

WELL, AND YOU HAVE THE GROUND FLOOR PARKING, SO I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A TON OF SPACE, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR SO, SO THE, YEAH, THE, THE TYPES OF USES THAT WOULD, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE USES THAT ARE, UM, KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY TO THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING.

'CAUSE WE'RE LIMITED BY PARKING COUNT, RIGHT.

WE'RE LIMITED BY, UM, DENSITY AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND THE SIZE OF THE SITE.

SO, UH, BUT IF IT WAS COMFORT, WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY IT'S LIMITED TO, YOU KNOW, ANY NON-RESIDENTIAL USE OTHER THAN AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENCE WILL BE LIMITED TO GROUND FLOOR.

OKAY.

THE WHOLE GROUND FLOOR WILL ALL BE, UH, COMMERCIAL.

WELL, YOU MAY, YOU KNOW, THE GROUND FLOOR COULD ALSO HAVE, UH, SAY THE OFFICE, UH, THE MANAGER'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH.

BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANY GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

OKAY.

UH, COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

MR. BOX.

UH, YOU HAD ALLUDED TO A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, WAS THERE SOME TYPE OF AN AGREEMENT ON THE HEIGHT? UH, WHAT, WHAT WERE YOUR TAKEAWAYS ON THAT, ON THE MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS? AND WOULD YOU BE, UH, WILLING TO LOWER THE HEIGHT TO FOUR FLOORS OR EVEN THREE? SO THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS, UM, AND THEN AFTER THE LAST MEETING THAT I WENT TO, WE EMAILED THEM THE KIND OF THE FINAL VERSION OF THE, THE PED.

UM, THERE WAS NEVER AN AGREEMENT.

HEIGHT WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WAS OF CONCERN TO THE NEIGHBORS.

I, I DON'T THINK SO.

I I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO TO TO FOUR OR THREE, UM, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT,

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I THINK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT STAFF'S TELLING US.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I 35 CORRIDOR PLAN, THERE'S A REASON WHY THE CONSULTANTS AND THE STAFF AND ALL OF THE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD, UM, TOLD US THAT THIS IS THE AREA WHERE GREATER HEIGHT IS APPROPRIATE AND NEEDED.

AGAIN, IT STATES THAT BUILDINGS GREATER THAN THE FOUR STORIES AND HEIGHT ARE APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE INTERSTATE.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BOUGHT THE INTERSTATE, SO REDUCING IT DOWN STARTS TO BECOME MORE OF A, A, UM, JUST TYPICAL SUBURBAN PROJECT AND NOT SOMETHING I THINK THAT COULD BE SPECIAL ALONG INTERSTATE 35.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BRING IT TO A VOTE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

I BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ONE THAT IS APPROVED.

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 25TH, 2025.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON THE AGENDA.

MOVING ON TO CITIZEN'S COMMENT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL REMARKS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING, ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS, AND MUST OTHERWISE BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY RULES.

UM, OR UPON REQUEST FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR OR MEMBERS? I HAVE NO COMMENTS.

ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON AND LOOK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN.

MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.

THAT MOTION IS APPROVED.

FIVE TO ZERO.

THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.