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ALL RIGHT, I'D LIKE[1. Call to Order of the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
TO WELCOME EVERYONE HERE THIS EVENING.ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATIONS.
[A. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing September 2025 as National Preparedness Month and Presentation of Suggested Items to be included in a Simple Home Emergency Preparedness Kit.]
PRESENTATION IS OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER, 2025 AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND PRESENTATION OF SUGGESTED ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED IN A SIMPLE HOME EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS KIT.WHEREAS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH OCCURRING ANNUALLY IN SEPTEMBER, CREATES AN IN, IN AN IDEAL OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY RESIDENT OF EDMOND TO JOIN CITIZENS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IN PREPARING THEIR HOMES, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITIES FOR ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY, INCLUDING NATURAL, TECHNOLOGICAL AND HUMAN CAUSED.
AND WHEREAS PLANNING NOW BEFORE DISASTER IS THE BEST WAY TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY RESILIENCY FROM DISASTER.
AND WHEREAS WE COMMIT AS A COMMUNITY TO CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN PLANNING FOR AND RESPONDING TO DISASTERS, AND WHEREAS WHEN RESIDENTS WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE GOVERNMENT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PREPARING THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES, THE CHANCE OF SURVIVAL AND RETURN TO NORMALCY FOLLOWING DISASTER IS GREATLY INCREASED.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF EDMOND PARTNERS WITH FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, TRIBAL, TERRITORIAL, PRIVATE, NONPROFIT, AND COMMUNITY AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO EDUCATE COMMUNITIES ON LOCAL HAZARDS AND NATURAL DISASTERS AND HOW TO PREPARE FOR THEM.
AND WHEREAS EDMOND IS COMMITTED TO THE EQUITABLE DISASTER RELIEF AND RECOVERY SERVICES AND NON-DISCRIMINATION TO ALL COMMUNITIES IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OR DISASTER.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY INFORMS RESIDENTS ON HOW TO TAKE ACTION AND RECEIVE SERVICES THROUGH ITS SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEBSITE, INCLUDING VISITING WWW.READY.GOV FOR ESSENTIAL TIPS AND INFORMATION.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR TO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER, 2025 IS NATIONAL PREPARED PREPAREDNESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MR. MAYOR AND, UH, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL THERE.
I BROUGHT, UH, SOME DIFFERENT HANDOUTS THAT, UH, I PUT OUT THERE.
YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT, UH, ALSO BROUGHT SOME, UH, FOR EVERYONE'S IN ATTENDANCE, UH, TO PICK UP.
BUT A SIMPLE LITTLE BROCHURE ON, UH, BUSINESS PLANNING.
UH, WE KNOW THAT IF BUSINESSES ARE CLOSED AFTER A NATURAL DISASTER, UH, FOR VERY LONG, A LOT OF 'EM NEVER OPEN.
AND BEING A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS FUNDED ON SALES TAX, IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THOSE BACK OPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE DO HAVE, UH, A PLAN THERE TO GET STARTED.
PLUS, WE KNOW FOLKS HERE, UH, LOVE THEIR PETS.
UH, SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE PETS AND, UH, YOUR PREPAREDNESS AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, A QUICK LITTLE THING HERE THAT'S, UH, INCLUDED WITH THE AGENDA THAT KIND OF GIVES SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS AND SOME DIFFERENT PLANS THAT YOU CAN PUT PUT TOGETHER, UH, TO PREPARE YOUR, UH, FAMILY.
FOR THOSE WITH LITTLE ONES AT HOME, WE HAVE TO PREPARE WITH PEDRO.
IT'S A, UH, A FUN LITTLE COLORING BOOK WITH, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISASTERS IN IT.
TEACH LITTLE KIDS HOW TO, UH, GET READY.
AND WHAT, UH, WE FIND IS A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS BIG GIANT BACKPACK OR GO THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF TO PUT TOGETHER A, AN EMERGENCY KIT TO PREPARE THEMSELVES.
AND SO, UH, WHAT I DID WAS JUST THROW TOGETHER A SMALL LITTLE KIT HERE JUST TO SHOW EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING, UM, MASSIVE, AND YOU HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF A SHOEBOX HERE.
UH, I THINK I GOT THE LITTLE TUB AT SAM'S ONE DAY TO, UH, ORGANIZE SOME STUFF.
AND THEN, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT TO WRITE DOWN IMPORTANT PHONE NUMBERS.
UH, YOUR CELL PHONE'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA WORK.
AND, UH, I DON'T MEMORIZE PHONE NUMBERS LIKE I USED TO WHEN I WAS LITTLE.
SO HAVING THOSE, HAVING SOME SIMPLE COPIES OF SOME IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, YOUR PASSPORT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, SO THAT, UH, THE TORNADO DOES COME THROUGH AND, AND TAKE OUT YOUR HOUSE.
YOU CAN STILL FIND THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SMALL ENOUGH, IT FITS UNDERNEATH THE BED.
SO THREW IN SOME OTHER SIMPLE ITEMS HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, SOMETHING TO WRITE DOWN.
IF YOU TAKE, UH, PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS, HAVING SOME SORT OF A BACKUP OF THOSE, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.
THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, UH, BUY THINGS WITH YOUR, UH, DEBIT CARD, CREDIT CARD.
SO HAVING SOME CASH CAN BE HANDY.
SO YOU CAN RUN DOWN TO SEVEN 11.
PICK UP A FEW OF THE THINGS YOU MAY NEED.
OBVIOUSLY, TOILET PAPER GOES WITHOUT, UH, SAYING.
AND THEN, UH, SMALL FIRST AID KIT, MAYBE SOME MATCHES.
I'VE GOT A, UH, SMALL PONCHO HERE AND A LITTLE SURVIVAL BLANKET, UH, TO WRAP UP.
KEEP YOU WARM, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT MAY BE.
AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING SOME FOOD AND SOME WATER.
I WENT AND RAIDED THE PANTRY, SO I GOT A COUPLE WATER BOTTLES AND SOME, UH, BEEF JERKY IN HERE.
UH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, JUST A SIMPLE WEATHER RADIO THAT ALSO HAS A, UH, HAND CRANK ON IT SO THAT YOU CAN, UH, SPIN IT AROUND, SPEED IT UP, AND THEN YOU CAN, UH, CHARGE YOUR CELL PHONE FROM IT, HAVING SOME BASIC TOOLS TO SHUT OFF YOUR UTILITIES.
UH, SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, GAS THAT'S SPRAYING INTO YOUR HOUSE, IF YOU CAN SHUT THAT OFF UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND CHECK THAT OUT.
JUST SMALL LITTLE THING LIKE THIS.
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AFTERNOON, PUT IT TOGETHER, UH, IS GONNA MAKE YOU MUCH MORE PREPARED SHOULD, UH, SOME SORT OF DISASTER HAPPEN, UM, TO YOU THERE.SO, UH, WITH THAT, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND I, I HOPE THIS WAS, UH, BENEFICIAL.
[B. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing September 9, 2025 as Neighbors Night Out in the City of Edmond. ]
PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025 AS NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.WHEREAS EDMOND COMMUNITY, EDMOND'S COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD IS ENCOURAGING THE RESIDENTS OF EDMOND TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATEWIDE CRIME, DRUG AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAM ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025, ENTITLED NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT.
AND WHEREAS NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IS AN ANNUAL EVENT IN EDMOND THAT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN PROMOTING COOPERATIVE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY SAFETY.
AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF EDMOND ARE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME, DRUGS AND VIOLENCE IN EDMOND.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF EDMOND, EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT, EDMOND FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND EDMOND'S COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD ARE COMMITTED TO ENHANCING PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE RESIDENTS THEY SERVE THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT.
AND WHEREAS POLICE, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY, AWARENESS AND COOPERATION ARE IMPORTANT THEMES OF THE NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT PROGRAM.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025 AS NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, JD YOUNG AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, HERE ALONG WITH THE APPOINTED COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW, THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS ENJOYED, UH, THIS BOARD SINCE ITS CREATION IN 1997.
SO FOR 28 YEARS, OUR COMMUNITY HAS HAD A COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY POLICING.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? QUITE SIMPLY, IT MEANS PARTNERSHIPS AND PROBLEM SOLVING.
AND SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH NINE BOARD MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AND WE MEET MONTHLY AT A MINIMUM AND GO THROUGH WHAT WE THINK THE CHALLENGES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS FACING ARE, UH, HOW YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES SHOULD BE ALLOCATED AND USED.
UH, AND SO WHEN PEOPLE ASK WHY, WHY IS EDMOND, UH, WHY IS OUR CRIME RATE LOWER? UH, WHY, WHY DO WE HAVE THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT SOME COMMUNITIES DON'T? UH, I SAY THE SECRET SAUCE IS RELATIONSHIPS, AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, UH, AGAIN, WITH COUNCIL APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY WORKING WITH THEIR PUBLIC SERVANTS TO BEST SERVE WHAT THE COMMUNITY DEFENSE EXPECTATIONS ARE.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE OPPORTUNITY YOU MAKER'S NIGHT OUT AND TO GET OUT REAFFIRM RELATIONSHIPS WE'VE ALREADY BUILT, AND THEN, THEN START SOME NEW ONES THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR BOARD CHAIR.
HI, MY NAME IS DANIELA DOWELL AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING THE CHAIR FOR COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD.
NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT IS ONE OF THE MANY OUTREACHES THAT WE ARE SO THRILLED TO SPONSOR AND PARTNER WITH THE EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT YEAR OVER YEAR.
SOME OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THIS YEAR IS OUR FOURTH GRADE, UH, JUNIOR POLICE CHIEF ESSAY WRITING CONTEST, WHERE FOURTH GRADERS IN EDMOND WERE POSE THE QUESTION, IF YOU WERE THE POLICE CHIEF OF EDMAN, WHAT WOULD YOU DO FOR THE CITY? WE HAD SOME GREAT RESPONSES FOR ALL OF US CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.
WE WERE TOLD BY THE FOURTH GRADERS, ALL OF US NEED TO GO BACK TO DRIVER'S ED.
SO THINK ABOUT THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU'RE DRIVING.
UM, WE OF COURSE HAVE TOMORROW NIGHT'S EVENT.
WE HOPE THAT IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD YOU SPONSORING, UM, AND PARTNERING, WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE.
BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE ON OCTOBER 2ND, WE ARE PARTNERING WITH EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND WE'LL BE HOSTING ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS SUCH AS A PANEL STYLE DISCUSSION.
WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE ROLES THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS PLAY IN WORKING TOGETHER TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE ON CAMPUS AS WELL AS OFF CAMPUS.
SO WE HOPE THAT YOU WOULD JOIN US FOR THAT.
YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD AND OUR INITIATIVES ONLINE VIA OUR WEBPAGE ON THE PDS WEBSITE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING TOMORROW NIGHT.
[C. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing September 17 through 23, 2025 as Constitution Week in the City of Edmond. ]
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RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD, 2025 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES WAS SIGNED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 1787, AND IS THE FOUNDATION FOR AMERICAN DEMOCRACY GUARANTEEING FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS TO ALL CITIZENS? AND WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL CELEBRATE 238 ANNIVERSARY, ITS 238TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.AND WHEREAS PUBLIC LAW 9 1 5 GUARANTEES THE ISSUING OF A PROCLAMATION EACH YEAR BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH 23RD AS CONSTITUTION WEEK.
AND WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION CREATED THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, LEGISLATIVE, EXECUTIVE, AND JUDICIAL, AND INCLUDES AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE CHANGES OR ADDITIONS.
AND WHEREAS THE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY ENJOY THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY, THE GUARANTEES OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS, THE FIRST 10 AMENDMENTS, AND THE PROTECTION OF THE LAW UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
AND WHEREAS SAMUEL KING CHAPTER AND CORDELIA STEEN, CHAPTERS OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN RESOLUTION REVOLUTION PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS HISTORIC DOCUMENT.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 17TH TO THE 23RD, 2025 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
[3. Appointments and Reappointments:]
THREE, APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. MAYOR.
I'D MOVE TO APPROVE THOSE SIX AS LISTED.
MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
I AM GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES TONIGHT.
[4. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]
RECESS OF THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CALLED THE ORDER OF THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND PLEASE VOTE.
WILL WE VOTING ON JUST SAY YES, I'M FOR IT.
WE'RE NOW IN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.
[5. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS, THERE ARE ITEMS. DID ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? SCENE NONE.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE A THROUGH EI.
MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS? SECOND.
AUTHORITY DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION ITEMS WE HAD NONE TO ENTERTAIN INDIVIDUALLY.
THEREFORE, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ADJOURNMENT
[7. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
OF THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.[8. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE 13 OF THEM THIS EVENING.[00:15:01]
UM, ITEM G NEEDS A RESOLUTION NUMBER 34 DASH 25 34 DASH 25.THAT PARTICULAR ITEM HAD AN INCORRECT IN, HAD INCORRECT INFORMATION.
IT WAS CORRECTED AND ADDED TO THE PACKET THIS AFTERNOON.
WE ALSO HAVE, WE, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO CONTINUE ITEM H TO THE NEXT MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY MORE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SEEING? NONE.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS MR. MAYOR.
I'D MAKE A MOTION ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
CONSENT ITEMS APPROVING ALL THE ITEMS EXCEPT ITEM H, SECOND AND A SECOND.
[A. Consideration of City Council General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
ITEM NINE, CITY COUNCIL.DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION ITEMS. ITEM A CONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT.
AGENDA ITEM PULL FROM SEPARATE DISCUSSION, WE CONTINUED THE ONLY ONE WE HAD.
[B. Consideration of Acceptance of Proposal and Approval of a Purchase from ACS Playground Adventures for New Playground Equipment to be Installed at Westborough Park; $150,000.00. (Ward 1)]
CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF PROPOSAL AND APPROVAL FOR THE PURCHASE FROM A CS PLAYGROUND, ADVENTUROUS FOR NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT TO BE INSTALLED AT WESTBORO PARK AND THE AMOUNT OF $150,000.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BRAD RAINEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON, UH, PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT TO ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAYGROUNDS.
THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAYGROUND.
IT'S PROBABLY OUR SADDEST PLAYGROUND IN, IN THIS SYSTEM, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS.
JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS, UM, ON THE SCREEN TO THE NORTH WOULD BE COVE TO THE WEST OR LEFT, UM, WOULD BE KELLY TO THE RIGHT WOULD BE JOHN ROSS ELEMENTARY AND THE EDMOND NORTH CAMPUS AND TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE DANFORTH.
AND THE PARK KIND OF WRAPS AROUND THESE HOMES HERE ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND AND JUST A LOT OF OPEN SPACE.
UM, WE DID A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, GOT 16 SUBMISSIONS FROM EIGHT VENDORS.
OUR STAFF NARROWED THEM DOWN TO THE TOP FOUR BASED ON WARRANTY AND MATERIALS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US IN PARKS AND RECREATION TO MEET OUR CITIZENS WHERE THEY'RE AT AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
SO WE, UH, DID AN ENGAGEMENT EVENT AT, AT BARNETT, UH, SPLASH PAD THIS SUMMER.
AND WE FIGURED SINCE KIDS WERE THE ONES THAT WERE GOING TO BE USING THE PLAYGROUND, WE'D, WE'D GET THEIR INPUT ON WHICH OF THE FOUR WE WE SHOULD INSTALL.
AND SO WE, UH, TRADED SOME POPSICLES FOR VOTES OUT OUT THERE, AND WE HAD A CLEAR WINNER EMERGE, AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH A, WITH A DESIGN, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A SECOND.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 150,000.
WE ESTIMATE IT'LL BE READY TO GO.
UM, IN THE SPRING WHEN IT GETS WARM AGAIN, WE'LL INSTALL IT OVER THE WINTER.
AND THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THE PARK TAX, WHICH IS A ONE EIGHTH CENT PERMANENT SALES TAX.
SO THIS WILL BE THE NEW PLAYGROUND HERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE STEVENSON PARK, BUT IT'S A HUGE IMPROVEMENT FOR, UM, FROM COMPARED TO WHAT WAS THERE.
SO THIS IS THE FIVE TO 12-YEAR-OLD AREA.
THIS IS THE SIDE CLOSEST TO, UM, JOHN ROSS ELEMENTARY.
AND JUST ANOTHER SHOT OF THAT.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL ACTUALLY BE EXPANDING THE PLAYGROUND AND ADDING A TWO TO FIVE PLAYGROUND AREA.
AND I THINK IN THIS ONE YOU CAN, UH, LET'S SEE.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THEY'RE BOTH LAID OUT ON EACH SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING AWARDING THE PROJECT, UM, PARK AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, UM, GAVE US THE GO AHEAD TO, UH, PURSUE THIS IN MARCH.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THIS AS PART OF THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT'S A THREE STAR GOAL TO INVEST IN THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR CURRENT PARK PROPERTIES.
AND ALSO JUST WANTED TO MAKE A PLUG SOMEWHAT UNRELATED, BUT, UM, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR A TS A GRANT FOR OVER $3 MILLION TO DO LOTS OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO UPGRADE HOPEFULLY ALMOST ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND, AND A, UM, OH, A FEATURE PLAYGROUND AT MITCH PARK.
THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL ABILITIES.
UM, I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT BECAUSE WE FIND OUT IF WE ADVANCE TO THE NEXT PHASE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.
SO IF ANYBODY KNOWS SOMEBODY TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS TOO, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE WE HAVE OUR FINGERS CROSSED.
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TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. MAYOR.
I'D MOVE APPROVAL, UH, NINE B NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT WESTBORO PARK.
I WAS REMINDED I NEED TO BACK UP AND GET A VOTE TO CONTINUE.
ITEM EIGHT H TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
CAN I GET A MOTION? MR. MAYOR? I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM EIGHT H TO SEPTEMBER EIGHT AND 14TH.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[C. Presentation and Discussion on Proposed Changes to Increase the Unassigned Fund Balance in the General Fund by Reducing the Adopted Fiscal Year 25/26 Budget by $1,194,832.00. (Citywide)]
MOTION PASSES.PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO INCREASE THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND BY REDUCING THE ADOPTED FISCAL YEAR 20 20, 25, 26 BUDGET BY $1,194,832 MR. INS.
UH, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER WHEN THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, COUNCIL GAVE STAFF THE CHARGE TO FIND AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS, UH, TO INCREASE THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OR RESERVES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PROPOSE TONIGHT.
UH, THE CHANGE BEING RECOMMENDED TODAY AS AN OVERALL REDUCTION OF THE 1.194 MILLION THAT YOU MENTIONED, UH, WHICH IF APPROVED, WOULD INCREASE THE FUND BALANCE FROM 7.03%.
UH, THESE RECOMMENDED CUTS IMPACT DEPARTMENTS AND FUNCTIONS FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, THEY DO NOT INCLUDE OTHERS SUCH AS, UH, THOSE FUNDED BY PUB OR INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE AND FIRE.
SO HOW WE GOT THERE IS, UM, THERE ARE 34 DEPARTMENTS OR FUNCTIONS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS.
ALL FUNDED EITHER IN FULL OR PART BY THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, THE FULLY FUNDED FUNCTIONS, THERE ARE 16 OF THOSE.
UH, YOU SEE THE EXAMPLES THERE ON THE SCREEN.
THEY CARRY THE BRUNT OF THE CUTS.
UH, IT'S GENERALLY ACHIEVED BY A 4% OVERALL REDUCTION ON AVERAGE, AND THAT'S 2% IN PERSONNEL COST.
THIS IS INFORMATION AND 6% OPERATIONS AND THAT, SO THINK MATERIALS, CONTRACTS, CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, THE SALARY SAVINGS FROM THE HIRING FREEZE, WE WERE CONSERVATIVE.
UH, THAT 2% IS BASED ON HISTORIC TRENDS.
UH, IT'S ROUGHLY $215,000 IN SAVINGS.
UH, THE REDUCTION IN SPENDING THE BASICALLY IN MATERIALS AND CONSULTING IS AT 748,000, ALMOST 750.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, THE PARTIALLY FUNDED, UH, WHAT WE DID THERE IS WE RIGHT-SIZED THE INTERNAL TRANSFER IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY REDUCE, UM, THE 18 FUNDS FOR DEPARTMENTS THERE, 4% OR $230,000, UH, WHICH IF APPROVED ALTOGETHER.
NEXT SLIDE, UH, WILL GIVE US THAT UNSIGNED FUND BALANCE EDITION OF $1,197,832.
UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT, THAT THERE'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF FUNDS THAT ARE NOT AFFECTED.
UH, THE EPWA FUNDS, UTILITIES AND KICKING BIRD, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE NOT POLICE AND FIRE HAVE DEDICATED FUNDING AS WELL AS THE 2020 17 CIPS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS NO REDUCTION IN THE COMMUNITY ACTION REVIEW OR CAR ALLOCATION.
AND SO WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE, UH, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU REFLECTING ALL THE CHANGES I JUST DESCRIBED.
NEXT AT THE NEXT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO CLOSELY MONITOR OUR EXPENSES AND REVENUES.
UH, REMINDER, THE HIRING FREEZE FOR OUR NON FOR ALL NON-PUBLIC SAFETY AND UTILITIES REMAINS IN EFFECT.
UH, THERE'S STILL THE POSSIBILITY OF MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, THERE ARE NEW REPORTING TOOLS COMING ONLINE TO HELP US MONITOR THE BUDGET THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THE BUDGET REFORM COMMITTEE CONTINUES TO MEET, AND WE'LL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS HOPEFULLY IN DECEMBER.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS.
MR. MAYOR, UH, MR. MANAGER, IF ANY, WHAT SERVICES WITH THESE CUTS, ANY SERVICES THAT'LL BE CUT, IF ANY? NO SERVICES WILL BE CUT NECESSARILY.
UM, I MEAN, THERE ARE GONNA BE CUTS IN DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDE SERVICE.
UH, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WILL BE REDUCED.
IF ANYTHING, WE MAY SEE SOME, UM, CHANGES IN TIME, TIMING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SOME THINGS MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.
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FREEZE WILL ALSO MEAN MORE JOB DUTIES WILL BE GETTING SPREAD AMONGST FEWER PEOPLE OVER TIME AS WE SEE THAT KIND OF NATURAL ATTRITION IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.WELL, I KNOW THIS WASN'T AN EASY TASK AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL THE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK AND EFFORT TO FIND THAT.
UH, YOU, YOU, YOU CUTS OR CUTS.
BUT I JUST, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE NOT REDUCING SERVICES.
WELL, AND YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
I'M, I'M THE ONE UP HERE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF STAFF INVOLVED IN DOING IT.
UH, WE GAVE THEM GOALS AND THERE WERE, THEY ALL WENT TO WORK AND SHARPENED THEIR PENCILS AND GOT TO IT.
UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO STAFF ESPECIALLY.
THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE 1.1, BUT THAT'S ON TOP OF 40, UH, OFF OF LAST YEAR.
THIS WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS US BE MORE RESILIENT WITH OUR RESERVES FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T IN THE JUNE MEETING OR WATCHING IT, UM, IT WAS A KIND OF A CHALLENGE TO OUR STAFF.
UM, WILL THERE BE A BREAKDOWN OF THE KIND OF THE PUTS AND TAKES IN OUR PACKET NEXT TIME? OR CAN WE GET THAT OFFLINE? MAYBE? EITHER WAY.
WE CAN DEFINITELY PUT IT IN THE PACKET FIRST.
I JUST WANNA SEE KINDA THE LINE ITEM LEVEL OF WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IT AT THE LINE ITEM LEVEL BEFORE WE GET TO THE PACKET NEXT TIME.
SO SOONER YOU CAN GET US THE DETAIL.
UM, I THINK THE BETTER OFF WE'RE ALL GONNA BE.
I RECOGNIZE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS HAVE BEEN KIND OF CHAOTIC.
UM, WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE SEEN? NONE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO ON THAT.
[A. Case No. SP25-00007; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan Application for Whole Foods Market at Legacy at Covell, Located on the North Side of Covell Road, East of Sooner Road. (Covell 35 Development, LLC; Ward 2)]
10.CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. ITEMS LISTED UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE USUALLY DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY OR BY PROJECT BY MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
EACH ITEM PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OF PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY RULES, WHICH ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, COMMENTS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE MAYOR OR THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING.
IF YOU DO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK AGAINST OR FOR ANY ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
YOU ALL CAN HEAR US OUT THERE IN THIS NEW BUILDING A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WE CAN HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE.
SO WITH THAT ITEM, A CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 0 7 PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR WHOLE FOODS MARKET AT LEGACY AT COVE, LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF VALE ROAD, EAST OF SOONER ROAD.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? HE IS.
KEN BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
THIS SITE PLAN IS BEING HEARD BY CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FROM TITLE 22 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS A SPECIFIC LOCATION NORTHEAST ACROSS CONFERENCE DRIVE FROM THE HILTON GARDEN INN AND CONFERENCE CENTER.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
IT HAS THREE BUILDINGS, UM, WITH SHARED WALLS.
THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 10,000 SQUARE FEET, 12,400 SQUARE FEET AND 35,500 SQUARE FEET.
FIVE POINTS OF ACCESS ARE PROPOSED, TWO FROM CONFERENCE DRIVE, ONE FROM HERITAGE PARK DRIVE, AND TWO FROM MARKET STREET.
A VARIANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION STANDARD IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THE CONFERENCE DRIVE ACCESS POINTS.
THE REQUEST IS FOR REDUCTION FROM THE REQUIRED 150 FEET OF SEPARATION TO APPROXIMATELY 115 FEET.
THIS VARIANCE IS SUPPORTED BECAUSE IT MAINTAINS ALIGNMENT WITH THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF CONFERENCE DRIVE.
THE ELEVATION SHOW THE BUILDING TO BE APPROXIMATELY 35 FEET HIGH WITH THE TALLEST POINT BEING 42 FEET.
THE FACADE WILL CONSIST OF BRICK MASONRY AND STUCCO.
AT THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.
WOULD THE A, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE THAT? ANYTHING? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE PLAN AND A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
STEVEN COOKSEY, UH, WITH KIMLEY HORNE 47, 27 GALLIA PARKWAY, OKLAHOMA CITY.
WAS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY OR JUST THE PROJECT IN GENERAL? NO, I'D LIKE, I WANNA HEAR ABOUT THE SITE PLAN.
WHAT YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN ON DOING OUT THERE? YEAH, SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE
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MAIN TENANT HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH A SITE PLAN APPLICATION IS WHOLE FOODS, UH, WHICH IS THE LARGEST BUILDING THERE, UH, SHOWN ON THAT SITE PLAN.UM, YEAH, I MEAN THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE DRIVEWAY NEEDED TO ALIGN FOR TRUCK ACCESS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE.
AND, AND AS, UH, WAS MENTIONED, WAS SUPPORTED BY CITY STAFF BECAUSE IT ALIGNS WITH THE DRIVEWAY ADJACENT TO IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN GOAL OF, OF THE VARIANCE HERE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? SO I'VE, I'VE GOT ONE IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY.
UM, SO WHOLE FOODS IS IN ONE OF THESE THREE BUILDINGS.
WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE OTHER BUILDINGS AT THIS POINT? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR CLIENT IS HERE TODAY OR NOT, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON TENANTS FOR THAT, SO.
I DON'T THINK THEY'D BE PROCEEDING WITH, WITHOUT THAT, UH, HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT COMING IN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE IN, IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? DO WE NEED TO GIVE THE VARIANCE FIRST? YES, SIR.
MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM.
WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT VARIANCE ON IT FIRST.
COUNCILMAN MOORE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DEAL WITH THAT ONE.
UH, WE'RE APPROVING THE SITE PLAN ITEM 10 A, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YEAH, WE'VE WE'VE GOT A VARIANCE ON IT.
MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 10 A INCLUDING THE VARIANCE? YES.
I SECOND THAT MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[B. Case No. Z25-00007; Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ___ Rezoning from “A” Single Family Dwelling District to “PUD Z25-00007” Planned Unit Development for Farmpond, Located on the East Side of Thomas Drive, South of Covell Road. (Simple Storage, LLC; Ward 1)]
ITEM 10 B, CASE NUMBER Z TWO FIVE DASH SEVEN PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 5 3 4 0 5 3 REZONING FROM A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT TO PUDZ TWO 50 DASH 0 0 7.PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR FARM POND LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THOMAS DRIVE, SOUTH OF VALE ROAD.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? HE IS MR. BRIAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST IS APPROXIMATELY 17 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION NORTHEAST OF EDMOND NORTH HIGH SCHOOL ACROSS THOMAS DRIVE NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE, UM, TO THE NORTH ZONED PUD AND RESTRICTED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PUD AND IS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED WITH A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES.
WEST ACROSS THOMAS DRIVE IS ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY PUD AND IS DEVELOPED AS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY AND IS DEVELOPED AS EDMUND NORTH HIGH SCHOOL TO THE EAST IS THE BNSF RAIL CORRIDOR WITH THE GRACELAND CEMETERY.
JUST BEYOND THAT, THE PROPOSED PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE ALLOWED USES ARE RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE, INCLUDING TOWN HOMES OR APARTMENTS.
A MAXIMUM OF 204 TOWN HOMES OR 306 APARTMENT UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, UM, WOULD BE 35 FEET FOR TOWN HOMES OR 45 FEET FOR THE APARTMENTS.
UM, ACCESS WOULD BE PROVIDED FROM THOMAS DRIVE, THE ADMIN PLAN 2018.
THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SUBURBAN INFILL.
THIS CATEGORY SUPPORTS A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, INCLUDING THOSE PROPOSED IN THIS PUD AS THEY HELP CREATE A GRACEFUL TRANSITION BETWEEN THE RAILROAD AND THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.
AT THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE ADD ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING.
I'M KENDALL DILLON WITH CRAFT AND TOLL 300 POINT PARKWAY BOULEVARD IN YUKON.
ALSO HAVE DAVID LAMBETH AND ROB GARRETT.
CAN YOU GET THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? UH, IS THAT BETTER? YEAH.
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ABOUT THAT.UM, KENDALL DILLON 300 POINT PARKWAY BOULEVARD, YUKON, OKLAHOMA.
I ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S, UH, DAVID LAMBETH AND ROB GARRETT WITH MIDNIGHT IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THEM.
UM, AS ALWAYS, KEN DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GIVING YOU HIGHLIGHTS.
SO I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF IN MY COMMENTS.
I MIGHT START, KRISTA, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING THE LOCATION MAP BACK UP, UM, THAT ONE AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
BUT THAT YELLOW LINE DOES NOT ACCURATELY DEPICT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND THE LIMITS OF THE PUD.
NOW, IF YOU WILL GO TO THE NEXT ONE WITH THE FLOODPLAIN RIGHT THERE, YOU'LL NOTICE THE BLUE LINE ACTUALLY IS THE LIMITS OF THE PUD.
SO THAT AREA TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST IS AN, UH, ACTIVE OIL WELL.
SO IT, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PUD.
UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT NOW, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING BACK TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO, UM, KEN GAVE YOU KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT'S IN THE PUD, BUT THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT ALLOWS FOR GARDEN APARTMENTS AS WELL AS TOWN HOMES.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT THIS EXHIBIT IN THE PUD, UM, AND WE UTILIZED THE MOST DENSE WOULD BE THE GARDEN APARTMENTS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THAT MAP IS BASICALLY 12 BUILDINGS, UM, THREE STORY BUILDINGS THAT END UP WITH ABOUT 288 UNITS.
UM, AS DRAWN, THERE'S ABOUT 216 ONE BEDROOM UNITS, ABOUT 72 2 BEDROOM UNITS ON, ON THAT DRAWING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE.
UM, AS FAR AS IF YOU TAKE THE BUILDINGS AS WELL AS THE PARKING, IF THAT'S ABOUT 40% ROUGHLY OF THE SITE.
SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT 60% OF THE SITE.
THAT'S IN ESSENCE OPEN SPACE OR IMPERVIOUS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF, UM, THE GARDEN APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WE'RE ADHERING TO YOUR LANDSCAPING OR COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH COMPRISES OF THE PARKING LOT, LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS 10% OF THE SITE AS.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT THE 10 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THOMAS DRIVE WITH A CONTINUOUS HEDGE AND TREE SPACE ON 30 FOOT CENTERS.
BUT EVEN ABOVE YOUR CODE, WE'VE AGREED TO DO TWO SHADE TREES FOR EVERY 6,000 SQUARE FOOT OF OPEN SPACE.
SO WE'VE ADDED THOSE THINGS INTO PUD AS WELL.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES TO WHAT WOULD THE WAY YOU DO YOUR PS NOW WE'RE NOT, YOU'RE REALLY USING THE BASE ZONING, BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT YOUR C3 OR C TWO, WHICH IS HIGH DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY, OR MEDIUM DENSITY, WE'RE REALLY NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES FROM WHAT THAT CODE WOULD ALLOW.
UM, AS KEN MENTIONED, UM, THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EDMOND 2018 DESIGNATES THIS SIDE AS SUBURBAN INFILL AND, UH, REALLY ENJOY AND LIKE THE WAY THAT YOUR PLAN WORKS IN THE SENSE OF WHEN YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERED WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BASED UPON THAT PLAN DESIGNATION, IT, IT GIVES YOU IT'S COLOR CODED LIKE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
UM, SO GREEN OBVIOUSLY IS JUST PROCEED FORWARD, BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR SUBURBAN INFILL THERE'S ZERO ZONING DISTRICTS THAT SHOW UP IN GREEN FOR THAT DESIGNATION.
UM, UNDER THE RED, WHICH IS DON'T GO ANY FURTHER, THERE'S ABOUT 20 UNITS.
FORTUNATELY, NOTHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS LOCATED IN THE RED.
SO THE REST OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH THERE'S ABOUT 12 OF THEM ARE IN THE YELLOW.
UM, RIGHTFULLY SO BECAUSE IT'S AN INFILL PARCEL, YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S AROUND IT.
BUT OF THOSE 12 USES, C TWO, C3, AND PUD, WHICH IS BASICALLY SUMMARIZES OUR APPLICATION ARE THREE OF THE 12.
UM, SO IF YOU START TO LOOK AT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU ALL MAKING THESE DECISIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF LAYS OUT THESE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA ON THINGS TO CONSIDER.
AND SO THREE OF THE BIGGER BUCKETS AND THINGS TO LOOK AT ARE, ONE, OBVIOUSLY IS IT COMPATIBLE AND DOES IT CONFORM TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES? AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON ONE OF THE EXHIBITS, OR KEN MENTIONED IT, BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK TO THE NORTH, UM, THAT'S AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE APPLICANT.
THERE'S A LARGE OIL WELL ON IT.
AND SO THERE'S REALLY NO PLANS FOR THAT AT THE MOMENT.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO JUST NORTH OF THAT OFF OF THE SCREEN, UM, IT'S E THREE LOT INDUSTRIAL WITH EDMOND STORAGES, UM, TO THE NORTH, THEN OBVIOUSLY TO THE EAST YOU HAVE A HEAVILY TREED RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY.
ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF IT, EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS YOU HAVE A CEMETERY.
AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO GO SOUTH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS REALLY JUST A LARGE PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE FOOTBALL STADIUM.
THEN IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST YOU HAVE JOHN ROSS ELEMENTARY AND YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY AROUND, THERE'S NOTHING THAT APARTMENTS OR HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH AND CONSISTENT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE EDMUND 2,500 APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE.
IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION OF THOMAS DRIVE AND DANFORTH, UM, YOU HAVE BROOKDALE AS WELL, SE SEQUOIA PLACE.
SO YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY THERE AS WELL AS THE GREENS AT COFFEE CREEK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COVEL.
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THEN I THINK THE SITE PLAN FOR THE HONEY FIELD, UH, APARTMENTS WAS APPROVED THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COVE AND KELLY.UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IS IT CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT SURROUNDS IT IN THE AREA, THEN AT LEAST IN OUR MINDS THAT IS A PRETTY EMPHATIC YES.
UM, WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, NOT CONFORMING TO THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN NOR INCONSISTENT FOR WHAT'S IN THE AREA.
THE SECOND PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, I THINK THAT YOUR PLAN ESTABLISHES IS THE FACT OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR INFILL PARCELS.
SO OBVIOUSLY THIS SITE HAS WATER, IT HAS SEWER, UM, EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC EVEN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WASN'T REQUIRED AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND PERFORMED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS WHO DO MOST OF THEM IN THE METRO AREA, DID IT COME BACK AND SHOWED THAT EVERYTHING CONTINUES EVEN WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT AND IT PROJECTED WITH THE APARTMENTS, THAT IT CONTINUES TO OPERATE AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MENTIONS FOR INFILL PARCELS ABOUT LOCATED NEXT TO CIVIC OR INDUSTRIOUS, UM, SERVICES.
SO OBVIOUSLY THIS SITE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO TWO SCHOOLS, SO IT CHECKS THAT BOX AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MENTIONS ABOUT DOES IT MEET ANY MISSING OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO A MARKET STUDY IN PARTICULAR, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU ALL COMMISSIONED A HOUSING ANALYSIS TO BE DONE A MARKET STUDY BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS COMPLETED IN AUGUST OF 2023.
THAT PLAN COME BACK AND LET YOU KNOW THAT 75% OF YOUR WORKFORCE LIVES OUTSIDE OF EDMOND.
UM, I THINK 94% OF ALL THE UNITS BUILT IN EDMOND IN THE LAST DECADE HAVE BEEN SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, AND THEN IT OBVIOUSLY RECOMMENDS BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING DEMAND AND YOUR CHANGING DEMOGRAPHIC THAT THERE'S MORE OF A NEED FOR ATTACHED UNITS OR MULTIFAMILY AND EVEN TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND FOR HOUSING.
THAT STUDY RECOMMENDS THAT THE NEXT 10 YEARS YOU NEED 8,900, UM, UNITS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY 890 UNITS, UM, PER YEAR, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I CAN GLEAN FROM WHAT'S ON YOUR WEBSITE, IT LOOKS LIKE RESIDENTIALLY, UM, 2 20 24, YOU PULLED JUST UNDER 500 TOTAL RESIDENTIAL PERMITS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS YEAR YOU'RE ON PACE TO BE JUST ABOUT THE SAME CLOSE TO 500, MAYBE A HANDFUL MORE.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY SINCE THAT STUDY IS DONE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GETTING JUST A LITTLE OVER A HALF OF WHAT THAT STUDY SHOWED YOU NEEDED IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE DESIGNATION AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THREE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT THIS SITE CERTAINLY MEETS ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA.
IT'S COMPATIBLE, IT'S CONFORMING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORTS IT, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IT SEEMS TO MEET, UM, UH, A HOUSING DEMAND BOTH IN NOT ONLY THE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS BUT THE TOP AND THE VARIABILITY OF OF PRODUCT AND STOCK OUT THERE.
SO YOU LOOK AT THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FACT THAT AGAIN, IT'S AN INFILL PARCEL, SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THAT.
UM, I KNOW STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO APPROVE IT.
AND SO WE'D ASK YOU TO DO LIKEWISE TONIGHT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS.
I'VE GOT ONE THAT AS I LOOK AT THE, THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUE AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE GOTTA BE WORKED OUT THERE.
HOW ARE WE GETTING AROUND THOSE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT? SO CHRISTIE, WOULD YOU MIND GOING TO THAT MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN RIGHT THERE? AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT PROJECTS THE, THERE YOU GO.
SO WE ARE SHOWING SOME MINOR ENCROACHMENTS INTO, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT FEMA REGULATED FLOODPLAIN, THAT'S THE CITY OF EDMUNDS FLOODPLAIN.
IF WE ARE, OR WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE FINAL DESIGN, WE VERY WELL MAY JUST TRY TO STAY OUT OF THAT ALTOGETHER.
HOWEVER, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, THAT'S A BACKWATER EFFECT OFF OF COFFEE CREEK.
SO FROM A HYDRAULIC ANALYSIS STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT IS WE COULD ENCROACH IN THAT AND SHOW THAT WE'RE NOT ADVERSELY IMPACTING ANYTHING.
SO WHEN WE GET TO THE FINAL DESIGN, IF WE'LL DO ONE OF TWO THINGS, WE'LL EITHER WORK AROUND IT AND NOT EVEN TOUCH IT OR SECONDLY WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GO TO YOUR BOARD AND, AND SEEK A VARIANCE.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE IS GONNA REALLY HAVE A LARGE IMPACT ON THIS SIDE.
SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EDMOND FLOODPLAIN AND FEMA FLOOD PLAIN? RIGHT.
IT, THERE'S NO FEMA JURISDICTION OR REGULATION ON THAT FLOODPLAIN.
SO AS FAR AS INSURANCE OR ANYTHING HAVING TO DEAL WITH
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FEMA, BUT YOU ALL, UM, OBVIOUSLY HAVE YOUR OWN FLOODPLAIN, UM, UH, FLOOD STUDIES AND SO YOU KIND OF REGULATE CERTAIN AREAS EVEN BEYOND WHAT FEMALE WOULD.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? COUNSEL? I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF ON MAYBE YOU TOLD ME EARLIER RAIN, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT ON DANFORTH, UM, KEN MAYBE KNOW THE, JUST THE LEFT TURN THERE ONTO THOMAS DRIVE.
ARE THERE ANY LONG-TERM PLANS FOR, AND I THINK YOU TOLD ME THERE'S A, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WIDTH ON THAT RIGHT AWAY, BUT ARE THERE ANY LEFT, LEFT TURN SIGNAL PLANS OR EXPANSION THERE IN OUR FUTURE? I DON'T KNOW.
WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY RIGHT OF WAY THERE.
I DO BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED DIDN'T SHOW THAT THAT WAS NEEDED.
IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THERE.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR, DID YOU SAY ONE OTHER QUESTION OR NO OTHER NO OTHER QUESTIONS,
SORRY, SEEING NONE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[C. Case No. Z25-00003; Public Hearing and Consideration of Ordinance No. ___ Rezoning from “G-A” General Agricultural to “PUD Z25-00003” Planned Unit Development, Located on the East Side of Air Depot Boulevard, South of Danforth Road. (Sneed 2012 Revocable Trust; Ward 2)]
10 C CASE NUMBER Z TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 0 3 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 5 4 4 0 5 4 REZONING FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO PUDZ TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 0 3.PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF AIR DEPOT BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF DANFORTH ROAD.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT MR. BRIAN? YES SIR.
MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST IS APPROXIMATELY 16 AND A HALF ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS A SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF DANFORTH AND AIR DEPOT NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING TO THE NORTH ACROSS DANFORTH IS ZONED E ONE RETAIL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND CONTIN CONTAINS A SINGLE RESIDENCE WITH A PRIVATE NATURAL SURFACE TRACK OR TRAIL TO THE WEST ACROSS AIR DEPOT IS ZONED R ONE RURAL ESTATE AND GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURAL AND IS AND IS DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON LARGE LOTS.
SO THE SOUTH IS ZONED GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURAL AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE RESIDENCE.
EAST IS ZONED PUD AND IS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
THE PROPOSED PD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE PROJECT WILL CONTAIN TWO TRACKS.
ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.3 ACRES SITUATED DIRECTLY AT THE ARTERIAL INTERSECTION AND WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC USES SUCH AS RETAIL, RESTAURANT, MEDICAL, CHILDCARE, AND SEVERAL OTHERS.
TRACK TWO IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY INCLUDES FOUR APPROXIMATELY 14 ACRES AND WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS DUPLEX AND TOWN HOMES AS WELL AS SUPPORTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
FACILITIES SUCH AS PARKS OR SCHOOLS.
A MAXIMUM OF 68 UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN TRACK ONE WOULD BE THREE STORIES.
THE MAXIMUM HIGH END TRACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL TRACK WOULD BE 35 FEET.
UM, EACH TRACK WILL INCLUDE A MAXIMUM OF TWO POINTS OF ACCESS.
THE EDMOND PLAN 2018 CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS S TWO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PUD DISTRICT IS CLASSIFIED AS YELLOW SIGNALING THAT THE DISTRICT MAY BE APPROPRIATE BUT IS EXPECTED TO REQUIRE MORE INTENSE REVIEW AFTER SUCH REVIEW.
NOTING THAT THE PROPOSED USES AND INTENSITIES INCLUDING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ON THE HARD CORNER, A SIGNIFICANT TREE PRESERVATION AREA AS A BUFFER AND TRANSITIONING TO MODERATE INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT APPEARS TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ONE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING.
MARK ZOW AT JOHNSON AND ASSOCIATES.
JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I THINK I'M GONNA START THIS ONE.
UM, I CONTINUE TO QUESTION WHY WE SEEM TO BE DEVELOPING BY PUD.
I CONTINUE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
WHY HAVE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN DECADES OF PLANNING FOR EAST EDMOND CONTINUE TO UNRAVEL IN FRONT OF OUR EYES? WHEN THE NEW PLAN, THE 2018 PLAN WAS ROLLED OUT, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVED IN THE LAKE DISTRICT WERE ASSURED THAT THAT AREA BETWEEN THE NORTH EDGE OF THE LAKE DISTRICT AND DANFORTH
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WOULD WIND UP BEING R ONE AND R TWO AND THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD WOULD WIND UP BEING SINGLE FAMILY AS A WAY TO TRANSITION TO MORE DENSELY UH, POPULATED AREAS.WE SAW IT AT I 35 AND DANFORTH, WHICH STARTED OUT GONNA BE APARTMENTS.
WE NOW HAVE SINGLE FAMILY FORTUNATELY.
AND THEN BISON RIDGE GOT APPROVED BY THE LAST COUNCIL AND NOW WE'RE WANTING TO DO DUPLEXES.
WHEN IS THIS GONNA STOP? YOU'VE GOT FIVE ACRE, 10 ACRE LOTS TO THE WEST.
YOU HAVE ACRE AND A QUARTER TO FIVE ACRE LOTS TO THE SOUTH, AND YOU'VE GOT A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST THAT IS 400 HIGH, 400,000 TO $900,000 HOMES.
THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT RIDICULOUS THAT WE'RE STRIPPING AWAY THE PLAN THAT WE HAD FOR EAST EDMOND.
WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR DOING DUPLEXES HERE? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREA, YOU KNOW BISON RIDGE IS DEVELOPING OUT, WHAT WE'RE TR ATTEMPTING TO DO IS PROVIDE, TALK INTO THAT MICROPHONE PLEASE.
YEAH, BISON, LIKE YOU'RE MAD AT ME SO I CAN HEAR YOU.
SO AS BISON RIDGE DEVELOPS OUT, IT'S PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN THERE'S SOME, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL.
IN THIS AREA, THE, THE DEVELOPER'S ATTEMPTING TO PROVIDE A DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPOLOGY THAT DOESN'T ALREADY EXIST THERE.
STAFF NOTED THEY'VE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
WE'RE SIMPLY ATTEMPTING TO PROVIDE A DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPOLOGY THAN WHAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THAT AREA.
AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IS NOT WHAT THE, THE RESIDENTS OF EAST EDMOND, PARTICULARLY IN THAT AREA HAVE BEEN BEING TOLD FOR DECADES.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW WE CREATE A CONTROLLED PLAN TO DEVELOP EAST EDMOND AND WE'RE ERODING AWAY AND WE'RE PUTTING MORE DENSITY INTO AN AREA THAT WE CAN'T EVEN CONTROL AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULD COME IN HERE WITH DUPLEXES WITH A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OF IT THAT'S GONNA BE HIGH DOLLAR HOMES.
I MEAN THIS IS GETTING, THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS THAT DEVELOPERS THINK THAT BECAUSE WE'VE COME OUT WITH THIS 2018 PLAN WITH THIS SS TWO CATEGORY, AND OH BY THE WAY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GREEN IN THE GREEN CATEGORY THAT FITS WITHIN IT.
SO IT ALL FALLS INTO YELLOW AND RED.
WELL GUESS WHAT? IN THE YELLOW YOU CAN DO DUPLEXES, YOU CAN DO APARTMENTS.
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WERE ENVISIONING IN EAST EDMOND.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS IN THE EAST EDMOND 2050 PLAN.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS IN THE 2018 PLAN, AT LEAST AS FAR AS WE WERE TOLD.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ALL YOUR FAULT BECAUSE STAFF IS THE ONE THAT KEEPS SAYING YEAH, IT WORKS.
WELL GUESS WHAT? ANYTHING WORKS.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC WHEN YOU'VE GOT 400,000 HIGH $400,000 PLUS HOMES TO THE EAST OF IT THAT YOU THINK DUPLEXES WORK THERE? WELL, PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY, I DON'T THINK THE THE UNIT COST OF A, OF A HOME PLAYS INTO WHETHER OR NOT LAND USES CAN BE COMPATIBLE.
UH, I THINK WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS COMPATIBLE AND STAFF HAS VERIFIED THAT IN THEIR STAFF REPORT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS RAISED WHY DO A PUD THIS PARTICULAR TRACT IS REQUESTING COMMERCIAL AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND THERE'S NOT A ZONING CATEGORY THAT WOULD'VE WORKED THAT WE COULD HAVE PUT THE CONTROLS ON THAT WE WERE SEEKING TO ENSURE THAT THIS WOULD BE COMPATIBLE AND ULTIMATELY GET US A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND ONCE AGAIN, WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT CORNER WOULD BE, WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL IN SOME FORM OR FASHION AS AN R ONE OR AN R TWO.
AND THAT ON THE BOTH OF THE NORTH CORNERS, IT'S ALREADY GOT PUDS IN PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL.
SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE EATING INTO THAT TRANSITION AREA WITH SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S COMPATIBLE WHEN YOU'VE GOT, WHEN YOU'VE GOT LARGER HOMES TO THE EAST AND YOU'VE GOT LARGER LOTS TO THE WEST OR TO THE WEST.
SO I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR THE RATIONALE AND I'M LOOKING AT STAFF AS WELL BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN I LOOK AT STAFF AND SAY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR DECADES NOW AND WE KEEP EATING AWAY AT WHAT WE ENVISIONED IN EAST EDMOND ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO PART OF THE, PART OF THE RATIONALE FOR UM, I GUESS REC RECOMMENDING OR WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE AREA AND TO GET A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND A VAR A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPE.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE, UH, SLIGHTLY IN
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DEMAND.OF COURSE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE COMMERCIAL OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, ESPECIALLY AT AT A, AT A, AN INTERSECTION LIKE THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE, UH, TRIP TRIP LENGTH AND TRIP TRIP, UH, TRIP DURATION, UH, FOR, FOR RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA.
SO, I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE ARE THE TALKING POINTS THAT WE WOULD, THAT WE WOULD LEAN INTO ON AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS.
AND IN YOUR REVIEW, DID YOU NOT LOOK AT THE FACT THAT BOTH OF THE NORTH CORNERS ARE PUDS FOR COMMERCIAL ALREADY? UM, YEAH, I I MEAN I I BELIEVE WE DID EVALUATE THAT.
AND ONCE AGAIN, CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU AND I HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS TALKED ABOUT THAT AREA AS TRANSITION, TRANSITION IS NOT, COMMERCIAL TRANSITION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING HOMES AND THE PARCELS.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE WERE HOPING THAT, UM, JUST, UH, BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF THE USE, WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, WE COULD ADDRESS THAT TRANSITION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF IF THERE WAS, IF THEY WERE PROPOSING LIKE, YOU KNOW, A, A LARGER SECTION FOR TRACK ONE AND A, A MORE INTENSE USE ON THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY, UM, THEN, THEN THAT MAYBE A, THAT WOULD MAYBE BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
WELL IT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME CONVERSATION IF YOU'RE WANTING TO USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF WHAT WE DID WORKING ON THE EAST EDMOND 2050 PLAN OR ON THE 2018 EDMOND PLAN.
WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS UP HERE? YOU HAVE ONE FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR.
AND YOUR PED ON TRACK ONE, THE MINIMUM HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES? YES SIR.
SO THE, THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AND MODELING IT AFTER DIDN'T HAVE A HEIGHT.
SO WE WERE ASKED TO PUT ONE IN, SO WE DID, BUT IF THAT'S A POINT OF CONCERN, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING THAT DOWN.
AND THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THREE STORIES AND 35 FEET? BUT IS THERE MUCH? NOT TYPICALLY, NO.
LIKE THE, THE AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT WOULD BE 35 FEET, TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
SO IN THEORY WITH A FLAT ROOF YOU COULD DO A THIRD.
UH, IT'S TIGHT, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING THE HEIGHT DOWN IN TRACK ONE.
WHERE DID YOU COME UP WITH THE THREE STORIES? UH, IT WAS A SOMEWHAT OF A, I HATE TO SAY RANDOM NUMBER, BUT GIVEN THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT DIDN'T HAVE A HEIGHT RESTRICTION, WE WERE ASKED TO PUT SOMETHING IN AND THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED ON IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SAYING? NONE.
COUNSEL, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO, MR. MAYOR? THAT I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE THREE STORIES AND I KNOW HE SAID THEY COULD ADDRESS THAT.
WE CAN'T ADDRESS THAT TONIGHT.
UH, SO I, ANYWAY, WHAT, WHAT ITEM IS THIS? UH, 10 C? YES SIR.
MOTION TO APPROVE ON ITEM 10 CI HAVE A MOTION.
THREE ONE WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? JUST A FOLLOW UP COMMENT.
UM, IT'S HARD FOR US TO, I THINK, INTERPRET OR UNDERSTAND HOW PUDS FIT WITHIN THE BIGGER PICTURE, TO YOUR POINT.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF ON JUST TO HELP, HELP GUIDE US A LITTLE BIT ON DECISIONS LIKE THIS AND WHETHER THEY FIT, UH, WITHIN THE KIND OF GENERAL INTENT OF THE AREA.
WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AND GO INTO DETAIL ON THIS SOMETHING.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FITS WITH THE GENERAL VISION OR NOT WHEN IT'S A PUD.
'CAUSE EVERY PUD STANDS ALONE AND IT DOESN'T REALLY CORRELATE TO A LAND, LIKE A, A DESIGNATED USE.
SO THAT MAKES IT KIND OF HARD ON ME AT LEAST TO KNOW WHETHER I SHOULD APPROVE IT OR NOT.
SO I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AFTER.
[D. Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Variances to Title 23, Section 23.40.090, and Other Applicable Sections, for Placement of Fill, Compensatory Storage, and Multi-Family Apartment Structures in the FEMA 1% Floodplain and Spring Creek Regulatory Floodplain for a Proposed Multifamily Project Located South of 2nd Street and West of I-35 Frontage. More Precisely, Located at the South Dead-End of Katie Michele Blvd. (Spectre Holdings, LLC; Ward 2)]
10 D, PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF VARIANCES TO TITLE 23, SECTION 23.40090 AND OTHER APPLICABLE SECTIONS FOR PLACEMENT OF FILL, COMPENSATORY STORAGE AND MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT STRUCTURES IN THE FEMA.1% FLOODPLAIN AND SPRING CREEK REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN FOR A PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY PROJECT LOCATED SOUTH OF SECOND STREET AND WEST OF I 35 FRONTAGE MORE PRECISELY LOCATED
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SOUTH END.AND MICHELLE BOULEVARD IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
KEITH BADIE, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER.
KEITH, CAN YOU SPEAK RIGHT INTO THAT MICROPHONE? KEITH BADIE.
SENIOR DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER, CITY OF EDMOND.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING VARIANCE OF THREE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCES.
THEY ARE FOR PROPOSING FILL IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND REGRADING SOME OF THE AREAS TO CO COMPENSATORY STORAGE AND THEN PLACE A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS WITHIN THE RECLAIMED AREAS.
OUR, UM, REQUIREMENTS FOR VARIANCE IS ARE MODELED AFTER FEMA'S REQUIREMENTS FOR VARIANCE.
AND ONE THING FAIR FEMA DOES SAY IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISN'T A REASON FOR GRANTING A VARIANCE.
EDMOND IS, HAS BEEN A PART OF THE FEMA'S COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM SINCE 1994.
AND EDMOND'S PARTNERSHIP IN THIS PROGRAM WITH OUR HIGHER STANDARD HAS MOST ASSUREDLY PREVENTED FLOODING AND LOSS OF LIFE.
AND AS A PART OF OUR RATING OF THE CLASS SIX, THE FEMA BACK FLOOD INSURANCES GETS A 20% REDUCTION FOR THOSE IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AND 10% FOR THOSE OUTSIDE THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AND GRANTING OF VARIANCES DOES PUT OUR CLASS, OUR RATING AT RISK.
THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE ADVISORY BOARD VOTED AGAINST THE VARIANCE THREE TO TWO AT THEIR AUGUST 18TH MEETING AND STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THESE VARIANCES AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE STAFF, WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? I'VE GOT JUST A FEW.
MR. BADY, PROBABLY EASY ONES FOR YOU.
BUT, UH, FIRST I NOTICE IN THE, UH, MATERIALS PROVIDED TO US, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT MEET, UH, SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS.
JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF THEY SATISFIED THOSE? WELL, THEY HAVEN'T EX THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN US THAT THERE'S ANY HARDSHIP TO MY KNOWLEDGE IF THERE'S ANY.
UH, YOU, YOU NOTE IN THE FLOODPLAINS FEMA DOESN'T LIKE TO SEE A PATTERN OF UNJUSTIFIED VARIANCES.
IN YOUR ESTIMATION, DOES A PATTERN EXIST? WELL, WITH THE CRS PROGRAM, THEY'RE VERY PARTICULAR THAT WE DO FOLLOW OUR HIGHER STANDARDS AND STICK TO IT.
UH, THE LAST VARIANCE THEY GAVE COST US A BUNCH OF POINTS.
WE WERE ABLE TO WORK AND SCRAMBLE AND FIND SOME MORE AREAS WE COULD PICK UP A FEW MORE POINTS.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CLASS SIX, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF POINTS THAT WE CAN GO CHASE AND TRY TO GET.
SO, UM, AND THAT WAS JUST ONE VARIANCE AND THEY CONSIDERED THAT A NOT FOLLOWING OUR HIGHER STANDARDS.
SO WE GRANT START GRANTING A SECOND OR THIRD ONE.
THEY'RE CERTAINLY GONNA SEE THAT WE'RE NOT UPHOLDING OUR HIGHER STANDARD AND IT IS GOING TO HURT OUR RATING IN THIS CS.
SO IN YOUR ESTIMATION, WILL THIS CHANGE THE CRS? I THINK IT WILL.
YOU THINK, CAN YOU, CAN WE, DO WE KNOW, CAN WE FIND THAT OUT? DO WE KNOW THAT ANYWHERE OR IS THAT SPECULATION OR WHAT? WELL, I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THAT LAST VARIANCE THEY WOULD'VE DONE TO US WHAT THEY DID AT THE LAST VARIANCE AND THEY TOOK AWAY A BUNCH OF POINTS AT THE LA BECAUSE OF THE LAST VARIANCE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THE NFIP IS NOT THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN ANYMORE.
IT MAY BE THE CHEAPEST BECAUSE IT'S GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED.
MUCH BETTER COVERAGE IS AVAILABLE THAN THE NFIP, WHICH HAS CAPS ON PRIVATE HOMES.
MUCH OF THESE HOMES ARE FAR EXCEED THE CAP PROVIDED BY THE NFIP.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO BEFORE WE CAN, WE CAN SAY THE NIP IS GONNA DO X OR Y WITHOUT KNOWING THAT, UM, I CAN REACH OUT TO OUR CRS SPECIALIST AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
UH, THE MATERIALS ALSO SAY, NEED TO ASSURE THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT INCREASING FLOOD HEIGHTS OR VELOCITIES.
I THINK I REMEMBER FROM THE LAST DISCUSSION IN THIS VELOC VELOCITIES BY THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WERE LOWER.
ARE THE HEIGHTS INCREASING? NO, THEY, THEY'RE SHOWING WITH THE COMPENSATORY STORAGE, THEY'RE SHOWING A REDUCTION IN HEIGHT.
AND THE VELOCITY IS JUST, UH, SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHAT'S, UH, HISTORICALLY BEEN THERE.
UM, SECTION 23.06 BINDING ON EVERY PERSON OR ENTITY.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'D HAVE TO READ THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO BE ABLE TO ELABORATE.
I, I, I COULDN'T MAKE ENDS OR TAILS OUT OF IT EITHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEAR STAFF SAYING ANYTHING THAT TOUCHES ANYTHING THAT BREATHES ON
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A FLOODPLAIN IS THEREFORE, UH, NO VARIANCE.IF SO, I THINK MR. MANAGER, WE NEED TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT IT'S MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT TO PEOPLE BEFORE THEY SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND PREPARE TO SPEND MORE THAN JUST, JUST TO SAY, SAY NO AT SOME POINT BEFORE WE KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE POSED IN THE MATERIALS PROVIDED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, NOT NOW.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES.
COUNSEL, COUNCIL PERSONS, UM, MR. LEWIS.
UH, FIRST, UH, GREG MASSEY IS HERE, UH, AND ANDREAS FROM RED PLAINS, WHO'S OUR WATER ENGINEER.
YOU'LL HEAR MORE FROM THEM IN A, IN A BIT ABOUT THE ACTUAL, THE WATER.
UH, THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, THEY'VE FORGOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN WHAT I KNOW ABOUT IT.
I ALSO HAVE, UH, MY PARTNER'S IN THIS, WHICH IS PAUL SELF, WHO'S A BIG DEVELOPER IN DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY.
DAVE MACINO, WHO IS ALSO A BIG DEVELOPER.
HE IS DONE A BUNCH OF STUFF WITH THE LARD.
WE HAVE, UH, BRETT ODOM, WHO'S A LOCAL CHIROPRACTOR WHO TREATS ALL YOUR COPS.
AND MARK BEFORD, UH, I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS AN INTRODUCTION.
HE'S PART OF THIS GROUP THAT'S TRYING TO PUT THIS, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AS WELL? SORRY.
UH, THIS IS A 23 AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN.
WE ALSO OWN A TWO ACRE COMMERCIAL TRACK DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF US.
UH, WHAT IS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW TO BE ON IT IS A 350 UNIT, UH, UH, UNIT.
IT'S TYPICALLY CALLED A TEXAS WRAP, WHERE THE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, COMPLEX IS THE UNITS AND THE INSIDE IS THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE COMMON AREAS, UH, VARIOUS AMENITIES.
THE COFFEE SHOP, THE TWO ACRES TO THE NORTH OF US IS CONTEMPLATED TO BE A BREWERY, UH, THAT WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM A BREWERY FROM OUT OF THIS MARKET THAT'S COMING IN.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS WE HEARD FROM OTHERS, UH, ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS IN EDMOND.
UM, 76% OF THE UNITS PROPOSED ARE STUDIO OR ONE PROVI, ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
LESS THAN 25% IS TWO BEDROOM OR MORE, WHICH WILL KEEP THE COSTS IN LINE WITH OUR WORKFORCE, UH, HOUSING, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, POLICE, UH, FIREMEN, UH, NURSES THAT WORK AT I 35.
WE THINK THAT THIS PROJECT, AND BECAUSE OF WHAT'S AROUND IT, BECAUSE THERE'S A HOTEL TO THE EAST ALREADY, THERE'S VERY, WE'VE GOT A HUGE BUFFER TO FOX LAKE IN THE SOUTH AND THE SPRING CREEK AREA TO THE SOUTH.
I THINK THAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND THE ABILITY TO BUILD THIS PROJECT IS GOOD FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, AND IT'S GOOD FOR US.
SO, TURNING TO THE FEMA VARI THE VARIANCE REQUESTED, THEY ARE CORRECT.
THE REGULATION AT ISSUE TODAY IS THE THREE THINGS THAT'S FOLLOWED IN YOUR CITY CODE AT TITLE 23, WHICH IS A SHOWING OF, UH, GOOD AND SUFFICIENT CAUSE.
A DETERMINATION OF FAILURE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE WOULD RESULT IN AN EXCEPTIONAL HARDSHIP TO THE APPLICANT, OR A DETERMINATION THAT THE GRANTING OF VARIANCE WILL NOT RESULT IN ADDITIONAL THREATS IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
I THINK WHAT YOU HEARD FROM MR. BEATTY IS THAT NUMBER THREE IS OFF THE TABLE.
OUR MODELING, WHICH GREG WILL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT, SHOWS A LOWERING OF THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, WHICH PROVIDES A BENEFIT BOTH FOR OUR PROPERTY, BUT FOR PROPERTIES AROUND US.
AND SO THEY ARE NOT CHALLENGING OUR VARIANCE BASED ON A THREAT TO HEALTH AND SAFETY.
ACTUALLY, WE ARE BENEFITING THE PROPERTIES AROUND US BY LOWERING, ADDING THE COMPENSATORY STORAGE AND LOWERING IT.
OUR ONLY REASON FOR THIS VARIANCE IS AN ECONOMIC, UH, ECONOMIC BASIS FOR IT.
UH, SO, AND WHAT THEY SAY IS FEMA REGULATIONS, AND I QUOTE, VARIANCES ARE INTENDED FOR EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES CONCERNING A SPEC SPECIFIC PROPERTIES, PHYSICAL AND CONDITION, NOT FOR AN OWNER'S PERSONAL FINANCIAL SITUATION.
AND NO LESS THAN 10 MEETINGS I'VE HAD WITH THE CITY, WITH CITY STAFF, WITH STEVE LAWRENCE, WITH RANDY ANTS, WITH KEITH BEATTY, NOT ONCE HAS ECONOMIC HARDSHIP COME UP IN THOSE MEETINGS TO US.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT NFIP REGULATION 60.6, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS AN E YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BROUGHT THIS UP TWO DAYS AGO IN THE NOTICE OF THIS MEETING, THAT THEY'RE ARGUING ECONOMIC HARDSHIP NOW, UM, AS AN ATTORNEY, I WENT AND FOUND OUT WHAT THAT MEANT.
I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT, WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS, UH, THE EXCEPTIONAL HARDSHIP THAT, THAT THEY LOOK AT? AND UNFORTUNATELY, NFIP SAYS THERE'S NO ABSOLUTE CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING
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AN EXCEPTIONAL HARDSHIP OR CAUSE.SO I HAD TO START GOING TO LOOK AROUND AND I LOOKED FOR TREATISES.
I FOUND A TREATISE, UH, SOUTHERN TIER CENTRAL REGIONAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
THEY WORK WITH COUNTY GOVERNMENTS AND PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO MUNICIPALITIES, MOSTLY IN THE NORTHEAST.
BUT THEY HAD AT LEAST DEVELOPED A TREATISE ON FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT VARIANCES AND HAD SOME INFORMATION ON IT.
SO WHEN I FOUND THAT, I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT, AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON THAT THEY LISTED IN THIS SOUTHERN TIER REGIONAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BOARD WAS A DEVIATION THAT VARIANCES ARE GRANTED WAS BECAUSE OF DEVI DEVIATION FROM HIGHER STANDARDS.
WHEN A MUNICIPALITIES FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT STANDARDS EXCEED THE MINIMUM FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, THE SITUATION MAY WARRANT A DEVIATION FROM THOSE HIGHER STANDARDS.
THE OTHER REASON THAT THEY CITED TOO, THAT WAS IN THAT WAS, UH, AN OFFSETTING BENEFIT FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK WE MEET BOTH OF THOSE, AND THEY CITED TO FEMA'S OWN GUIDEBOOK.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE REFERENCE HERE.
APPEAL SPECIAL USES AND VARIANCES AND UNIT SEVEN ORDINANCE ADMINISTRATION OF FEMA 4 0 8 NFI P'S FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS, A STUDY GUIDE AND DESK REFERENCE FOR LOCAL OFFICIALS IN TWO, UH, PUBLISHED IN 2005.
SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT IN TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
I THINK OUR PROPERTY IS UNIQUE.
THERE IS THE SPRING CREEK, WHICH ENTERS IN FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND GOES OUT TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU ALSO, WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT OUR PROPERTY, WE HAVE A TRIBUTARY, A VERY SMALL TRIBUTARY WHERE SOME WATER COMES IN FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AND FEEDS INTO SPRING CREEK.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE, THEN YOU LOOK AT THE VARIANCE, THE DEVIATION FROM THE HIGHER STANDARDS.
WHAT WE'RE ARGUING FOR TODAY IS THE CITY ADOPTED TO CREATE THE REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN, WHICH EVERYONE AGREES.
THE REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS GREATLY LARGER THAN THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY RELY ON THE CM TWO HILL STUDY FROM 1991, THE CHI, THE CHIMNEY HILL STUDY FROM 1991 TO ADOPT THE REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT STUDY FROM THE CM HILL TWO STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 91, FROM A LAYMAN'S TERMS, FOR NORMAL PEOPLE LIKE ME TO UNDERSTAND FOR LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT THEY DID IN 1991 IS THEY APPROVED, THEY, THEY ASSUMED THAT EVERY PROPERTY WAS FULLY DEVELOPED, EVERY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, EVERY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
AND THEY MADE NO MODIFICATIONS FOR ANY COMPENSATORY STORAGE, ANY PONDING, ANY WATER REMEDIATION REMEDIES THAT HAVE DONE.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO JUST IMAGINE A FLAT GROUND.
AND 30 YEARS AGO, THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY COMPENSATORY STORAGE.
SO WE BELIEVE THOSE, WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN BASED ON THESE, UH, THE CM HILL TWO STUDY, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T REFLECT REALITY BECAUSE FOR 30 YEARS, THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT ALLOWED, A NEIGHBORHOOD, HAS NOT ALLOWED A CONSTRUCTION TO BE BUILT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF COMPENSATORY STORAGE PONDING OR SOMETHING TO SLOW DOWN THE WATER.
SO, AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THAT CM TWO HILL STUDY VERSUS THE FEMA STUDY, YOU'VE GOT WATER FLOW RATES THAT ARE TWICE AS MUCH, TWICE AS HIGH AS FEMA.
AND SO WE THINK BECAUSE OF THE ADOPTION AND NOT INCLUSION OF ANY COMPENSATORY STORAGE, THAT THE MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE FLOODPLAIN HAS GREATLY AFFECTED THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND SO WE THINK WE MEET, UH, THE STANDARDS FOR AN EXCEPTIONAL HARDSHIP AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
BEYOND THAT, I THINK THERE'S A SECOND REASON IS THE SURROUNDING BENEFIT, AND GREG WILL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, BUT THE SURROUNDING BENEFIT TO THE OUT THE OFFSETTING BENEFIT, WE ARE ADDING COMPENSATORY STORAGE IN OUR, IN OUR PLAN.
SO NOW WE CAN HOLD MORE WATER.
AND AS WE DO THAT, NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH, NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST WILL ACTUALLY, THE FLOODPLAIN LOWERS.
SO IN THE OUTSIDE CHANCE, WE HAVE A 100 YEAR FLOOD, THIS CATASTROPHIC EVENT, THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE DOING WILL ACTUALLY BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORS.
THEY WILL BE MORE RESILIENT AND BE ABLE TO TAKE MORE RAIN ON WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING A FLOOD AND DAMAGING THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST OF US BECAUSE WE'RE LOWERING THE BASE ELEVATION AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL COMPENSATORY STORAGE.
CERTAINLY IT HELPS US, BUT IT ALSO HELPS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AROUND US.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BENEFITS FOR THE PROPERTIES AROUND US AS WELL AS OURS, THEN I THINK THAT'S ALSO WOULD BE AN EXCEPTIONAL HARDSHIP NOT TO GRANT OUR VARIANCE.
AND SO, UM, THE OTHER THING I'D SAY IS IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT
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TO DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF US, THERE'S AN APARTMENT.THERE IS A, THE HOTEL HAS BEEN BUILT DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF US.
IT WAS ALSO PRIOR TO ITS BUILDING WAS IN A REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN AS WELL.
AND WHEN THEY BUILT IT, UM, THE CITY SUPPORTED AND ALSO THEY GOT A FEDERAL LOANER, A LETTER OF MODIFICATION TO PULL ALL OF THAT PROPERTY OUT.
AND THEY AGREED THAT THESE, UH, THE REGULATORY DID NOT, IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.
AND SO THEY PULLED THE ENTIRE, MOST OF THEIR PROPERTY AND ALL THE BUILDING OUT OF THE REGULAR REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN.
AND THAT IS OUR ABUTTING PROPERTY RIGHT TO RIGHT EAST OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA BUILD OUR PROJECT.
AND SO THE CITY HAS SUPPORTED THIS IN THE PAST.
AND SO, UM, LAST, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THAT, I DID NOT HEAR IT TODAY, BUT THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN MADE PREVIOUSLY THAT IF WE ALLOW EVERYONE TO BUILD IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, IT'S GONNA HURT OUR RATING AND IT'S GONNA BE BAD, AND IT'S GONNA HARD HARM OUR FLOODPLAIN.
AND THEY'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE CRS RATING, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THIS SQUARE MILE IS THE LAST POTENTIALLY UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS AREA.
SO, UH, THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST WHERE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD, UH, SOMETHING HAD THE CITY IS ALREADY IN A CONTRACT TO BUY THAT.
UM, WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR A QUIET TITLE ACTION.
IT'S THE
THE CITY DOESN'T, AS FAR AS I KNOW, DOESN'T PLAN TO BUILD ANY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES IN THAT PROPERTY.
IT'S FOR THEIR PIPELINE AND ALSO FOR THEIR TRAIL SYSTEM.
I KNOW ABOUT THAT SALE BECAUSE I REPRESENT THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER TO THE WEST OF US, UH, ON THE QUIET TITLE ACTION.
SO OUTSIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO CHIP AWAY AT HERE.
AND SO THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS SQUARE MILE.
AND, UH, THAT HAS TO DO WITH IT.
UH, ULTIMATELY I'LL LET GREG TALK ABOUT THE ENGINEERING BECAUSE HE KNOWS A LOT MORE THAN I DO ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE HOUSING.
WE'RE ALSO WHAT WE ARE DOING BY SPENDING THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO CREATE COMPENSATORY STORAGE, WHICH WAS, IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OUR ORIGINAL PLAN.
WE ARE INCURRING A LOT OF COSTS FOR THIS, BUT IT PROVIDES NOT ONLY VALUE TO US, IT PROVIDES THE VALUE TO THE CITY BY PROVIDING EXTRA COMPENSATORY STORAGE.
LOWERING THE FLOOD ELEVATION SURROUND US, AND WE'VE MET EVERY STANDARD FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY.
I MEAN, OUR NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.
THEY SHOW WE ARE DROPPING THE FLOOD LEVELS AND THE WATER LEVELS.
FRANKLY, I'M, I DON'T KNOW THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS.
THE CITY STAFF SHOULD BE THANKING US FOR HELPING THEIR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND HELP MANAGE THIS FLOODPLAIN ISSUE INSTEAD OF FIGHTING US SO MUCH ON THIS.
BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO GREG, MR. FRANK, UM, MR. LEWIS, ONE THING THAT STAFF DID POINT OUT THAT DOES BOTHER ME A LITTLE WONDER IF YOU CAN MAKE ANY CONCESSIONS TO THIS, ANYTIME YOU MAKE MODIFICATIONS ON THE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE TRIBUTARY MM-HMM
CHANGES, AND ALBEIT A LOT OF MONEY SPENT BY YOUR, ON YOUR PROJECT, BY YOU GUYS TO HELP THE MAINTENANCE FALLS TOTALLY ON THE CITY.
ARE YOU WILLING OR ABLE TO MAKE ANY CONCESSION TOWARD THE UPKEEP OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO THE LAND? WELL, CURRENTLY AT THIS POINT, IT'S ALL OUR LAND.
AND SO, UM, THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL YET IN EMINENT DOMAIN IN THE SOUTH HALF OF IT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MAIN, THE TRIBUTARY WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING THE FLEXIMA WELL, AND THE INFILL AREA.
WILL YOU MAINTAIN THAT WHERE IT'S IN? SURE.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT, EVEN WITH THE DOMAIN CASE, IS ON OUR PROPERTY, AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT.
SO IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE ISSUES WHEN THEY ARE ON OUR PROPERTY.
AND SO WE WOULD OBVI OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY WITH THE FLEXIMA AND THEN DIFFERENT CONCRETE BARRIERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE'D HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE THAT ARE ON OUR PROPERTY.
GREG, BY THE WAY, GREG'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
IT, UM, THIS WAS A DIFFICULT PROJECT AND HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN FINDING A SOLUTION TO THIS PROPERTY THAT BENEFITS US AND BENEFITS THE CITY.
HE'S A LITTLE TALLER THAN I AM, SO I CAN BEND THAT DOWN.
UM, GREG MASSEY WITH RED PLAINS PROFESSIONAL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT HERE.
UH, AND YES, UM, WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE MR. MASSEY.
I KNOW YOU CAN TALK LOUDER THAN THAT, SO GET IN THERE.
I, I'M, I'M SORRY, I, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE I WAS BLOWING EVERYONE OUT OF THE ROOM HERE.
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HAVE GONE THROUGH, UM, MULTIPLE FLOOD STUDIES ON THIS PROJECT, WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT.UM, THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION ON IS THAT, YES, WE ARE LOWERING THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, UM, THROUGH THIS SECTION OF THE TRIBUTARY.
UM, WE ARE TAKING PRECAUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS PROPERLY ARMORED, UM, TO HELP ELIMINATE ANY CONCERNS FOR EROSION.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO TRY AND FACILITATE THE NEW SANITARY SEWER LINE, UH, TRUNK MAIN THAT'S BEING INSTALLED.
UM, THAT TRUNK MAIN ON AVERAGE IS 15 FOOT DEPTH OR MORE.
UM, WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE TODAY IS NOT ANYTHING NEW TO THE CITY OF EDMOND.
AND THE 20 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON MULTIPLE PROJECTS MYSELF, INCLUDING THE SPRING CREEK PLAZA, WHICH AT 15TH AND BRYANT, UM, ANYONE THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BACK FROM THE 1990S.
UM, THAT WAS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING IN ON THAT CORNER ADJACENT TO HAVER PARK.
WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAME MODELING THERE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED HERE.
UM, THE BRIDGES AT SPRING CREEK, UM, THAT ONE WAS COMPLETED IN 2005.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, AAN CREEK AT SIXTH AND STATE, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE CITY'S FLOOD MAPS, WE HAD TO PROVIDE COMPENSATORY STORAGE AND CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT.
UM, THE COTTAGE GROVE DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN, IN EAST EDMOND OFF COFFEE CREEK.
WE ALSO HAD TO MAKE CHANNEL MODIFICATIONS AND PROVIDE THE SAME HERA STUDIES TO VERIFY THAT WE WERE NOT INCREASING, UH, BASE FLOOD ELEVATIONS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IN THAT AREA.
UM, I, I'VE GOT A LIST OF THESE THAT I CAN GO THROUGH.
UM, CHEYENNE RIDGE AT 33RD AND BRYANT, THEY HAD THE SAME ISSUES THERE, ACTUALLY, FOX LAKE HOLDINGS, WHICH, UM, IS WHERE THE CURRENT ALII, UM, BUILDING AND PARKING LOT IS LOCATED OFF I 35 NORTH OF FOX LAKE, DIRECTLY SOUTH ADJACENT TO SPRING CREEK.
THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED AND DONE FROM 2021 TO 2023.
UM, CHRISTIE, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL UP THE FLOOD MAPS FOR THE CITY? YOU DO.
I BROUGHT PRINTS THAT I COULD SHOW TO YOU.
THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE 1991 STUDY, WHICH WAS INITIALLY DONE AS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WAS LATER ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, IS EXCESSIVELY GREATER THAN WHAT THE CURRENT 2009 FEMA.
FEMA IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING A NEW STUDY, AND THE NEW MAPS THAT HAVE COME OUT IN 2023 DO NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM THE 2009 MAPS AS IT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 1991 AND THE 2023 FEMA FLOOD MAPS IS THE FLOW RATE IN THE CHANNELS, WHICH AGAIN, 1991 CH H TWO M HILL STUDY IS ALMOST TWICE WHAT THE FEMA FLOW RATES ARE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON A FULLY DEVELOPED BASIN.
ON DETAINED THE CITY REQUIRES STORMWATER DETENTION ON ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE A FEW, A FEW CONCESSIONS THAT THEY MAKE, UM, TO WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE IMPROVING THE CURRENT SITUATION BY REDUCING THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATIONS.
AND ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED THE CITY STAFF PREVIOUSLY, AS BASED ON THE CH TWO M HILL STUDY, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY CITY
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COUNCIL THAT PLACED APPROXIMATELY 30 HOMES IN FOX LAKE AND IN THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE IN THE ADJACENT KINI AND THE HOTELS WITHIN THE CITY'S FLOODPLAIN, NO ONE HAS BEEN NOTIFIED WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY GET READY TO SELL THEIR HOUSE.ONE OF THE PARTNERS HERE IS IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS.
HE COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
AND AGAIN, AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, I HAD TAKEN AN OATH TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
I WOULD NOT BE STANDING BEFORE YOU IF I THOUGHT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH COMPENSATORY STORAGE WAS GOING TO CREATE DAMAGE TO ANY OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE OR PROPERTIES AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? DO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS TONIGHT?
I LIVE AT 1 0 1 STONY TRAIL, DAN O'NEILL IN 1993, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WAS THE CITY COUNCIL THE NIGHT THAT THEY APPROVED THE REZONING OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
A FRIEND OF MINE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, AND I WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS GOING ON AT CITY HALL.
HE WAS THE ATTORNEY AND THEY NAMED THE STREET KATIE MITCHELL AFTER HIS, UH, DAUGHTER, WHO WAS A SOCCER PLAYER OF MY, MY DAUGHTER.
SO I HAVE SORT OF A, A SORT OF A LONG HISTORY WITH THIS.
THIS PROPERTY WAS REZOS INDUSTRIAL.
AND SO WHEN THEY WERE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION AT THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT, AS I RECALL IT, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS INDUSTRIAL ON FLOODPLAIN.
YOU CAN PARK A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE, PARTICULARLY RAW EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW THIS THING GOT STARTED, UH, THAT ALLOWED THAT PROPERTY TO BE USED OFFICIALLY, IT'S, IT'S LISTED ON THE, UH, TAX RECORDS AS INDUSTRIAL.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FLOODPLAINS ARE THAT THEY USE ON OUR COUNTY RECORDS.
I'M SURE IT'S NOT THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT FROM WHAT I COULD SEE, AND I LOOKED AT IT REALLY CLOSE TODAY, UH, NONE OF THE HOUSES OUTTA FOX LAKE OR ANYWHERE ELSE ARE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHERE THE BROWN LINES SAY IT'S THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO NOW MAYBE THERE'VE BEEN STUDIES AND ALL THIS OTHER KIND OF THINGS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THAT PUBLIC RECORD.
AND ALL I'M SAYING, IT'S SORT OF HARD TO, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT NECESSARILY.
IT WASN'T PART OF WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO TO BUILD APARTMENTS THERE.
THEY WERE GOING TO USE THAT AREA FOR OPEN STORAGE, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.
NOW THEY'RE DECIDING, I THINK, TO TRY TO USE THE USE THAT IT WASN'T ZONED FOR, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS APPROVED BACK THEN.
IT MIGHT EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT WHY WE HAVE THE PROBLEM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO READJUST, UH, ANOTHER ZONING CATEGORY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, I'M ONE OF THE PARTNERS, DAVID MACINO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES REAL QUICK.
AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, JUST SO THE SHOW, THE CONCEPTUAL, UH, IMAGES, IF YOU CAN GO.
UH, THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, BILLY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, HOTEL TO THE RIGHT THERE.
UH, THE, THE STRING THAT RUNS THROUGH.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED, I THINK BY, UH, MR. FRAN WAS THE, UH, ARE WE GONNA MAINTAIN, WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S GONNA GO AT THIS POINT, MEANING THE SEWER LINE.
WE HAVE AN I PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHERE IT'S GONNA GO ON THE, UH, TRAIL, UH, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING, WHERE THE EASEMENT'S GONNA BE RUNNING UP TO THE NORTH OF THAT, UH, THE CREEK.
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A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER.WE ARE MORE THAN, MORE THAN WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING TO MAKE THAT A, A BEAUTIFICATION, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GOING TO BE, THESE ARE JUST SOME CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA MAKE THIS DIFFERENT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, UH, TRAIL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF AMENITIES RUNNING THROUGH THERE.
FIRE PITS, UH, PICKLEBALL ON THE, ON ONE OF THE SIDES.
UH, JUST, JUST A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN THE AREA TO BUILD OFF OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY DONE IN, IN PUTTING IN THE, UH, TRAIL.
UM, THE, THE LAST POINT HERE I WANNA MAKE IS THIS IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
AND, UM, IT CAME FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NUMBERS.
WE, WE ASSUMED $888 AND 40 CENTS PER CAPITA.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 2 75 TO 350, UH, 2.4 PEOPLE PER DOOR.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, 85% OCCUPANCY, UH, NUMBER THERE.
SO 714, WHICH GIVES YOU A, UH, $634,000, UH, TAX COLLECTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE AT AT 1%.
UH, ESTIMATING PROJECT COST $60 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE ONE OF YOUR, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 50% OF YOUR, UH, PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
UH, WHICH BRINGS ANOTHER $600,000 INTO THE, INTO THE, UH, TAX REVENUE.
UH, BILLY HAD MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE A BREWERY TO THE NORTH.
UH, HE ESTIMATES HIS INCOME REVENUE WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1.5 MILLION.
AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE COULD BE A, LIKE A LITTLE COFFEE SHOP OR A SANDWICH SHOP IN IT WITHIN OUR PROPERTY.
DOWN TO THE CITY OF EDMOND REVENUE, THERE WOULD BE 56,000 PLUS ANOTHER 15 FOR PROPERTY TAX.
UH, YOU GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM MATERIAL TAX FOR THE, UH, PROJECT, UH, 60 MILLION TIMES, APPROXIMATELY 60% GETS YOU, UH, ANOTHER 1.35 MILLION FOR YEAR ONE.
AND THEN YOU SEE YEAR ONE TOTAL REVENUE IS 2.6 MILLION.
YEAR TWO, 1.305 GOING FORWARD, UH, FOR A 10 YEAR TOTAL OF 14 MILLION.
IT ALSO, IT ALSO BENEFITS, AS YOU CAN SEE, EDMOND SCHOOL'S REVENUE IS ABOUT 287,000 A YEAR.
MR. MAYOR, I'M NOT TRYING TO, LET ME INTERRUPT HERE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PROLONG THIS PROCESS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VARIANCE TONIGHT, NOT AN ECONOMIC STUDY.
SO CAN WE GET BACK TO WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR? SURE.
AND, UH, THAT'S, I'M, I'M DONE THAT, THAT WAS IT.
I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT PART.
ANYONE ELSE SPEAK? WANT TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
I JUST HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION.
IT MIGHT BE OUT OF SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, BUT, AND MY GEOGRAPHY MAY BE OFF, BUT THE, UH, IN INGRESS AND EGRESS, UH, RIGHT NOW GOES ONTO SECOND STREET.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHT PROCESS TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON THERE? 'CAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE GOT ONE MORE PERSON.
TAYLOR HILLENBRAND FROM 1533 HISTORICAL, ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.
THE NUMBERS YOU PUT UP ON THE SCREEN, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS AROUND $635,000 A YEAR AS A PROJECTED ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE CITY OF EDMOND.
WAS THAT RIGHT? LIKE, IF THERE WAS NO TRAIL ACCESS, WOULD YOU PROJECT 85% OCCUPANCY TO BE? HOW, HOW WOULD ACCESS TO THE TRAILS IMPACT THE OCCUPANCY FROM YOUR, LIKE THE ANALYSIS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE VARIANCE IS FOR, RIGHT? IS TO THE A PORTION OF THAT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE.
UH, IF THE TRAIL WAS NOT THERE.
IF THERE WAS NO EXISTING, UH, MR. HILLENBRAND THAT HAD, THAT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VARIANCE WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OFFLINE.
NOT TRYING TO CUT ANYBODY OFF, BUT COUNSEL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? I HAVE A FEW FOR STAFF.
I'M NOT SURE WHO, MAYBE KEITH.
SO THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THIS REDUCES THE, I DUNNO IF IT'S LEVEL OF VELOCITY OR
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BOTH, BUT HAVE YOU ALL REVIEWED THAT AND DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT? WE HAVE REVIEWED THEIR REPORT AND DO AGREE.IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION, BUT THERE IS A SLIGHT REDUCTION.
AND THEN THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN VARIOUS AREAS.
I GUESS DO, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR DID YOU HAVE ANY? UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT SOME MORE.
WE'VE BEEN IN SINCE THE 2004 WRITING OF OUR CURRENT TITLE 23.
THIS STUFF HAS BEEN IN THERE AND IT'S BEEN VERY RESTRICTED.
THEY TALKED ABOUT THE HOTEL TO THE EAST, BUT THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE 2004 DRAINAGE CODE THAT WE'RE UNDER RIGHT NOW.
SO IT WAS A DIFFERENT CODE WITH DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO, UM, THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE IN A LARGE PART.
UH, HE MENTIONED ONE PROJECT, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS OVER IN THE OGDEN STUDY, WHICH IS A STUDY WE DIDN'T ADOPT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH IT.
NEVER GOT TO THE LEVEL THAT WE COULD ADOPT IT.
ONE THING I'D LIKE TO STATE HERE, THOUGH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CITY STUDIES VERSUS FEMA STUDIES AND THE CITY STUDIES ARE IMPORTANT.
WHY DID WE DO 'EM TO BEGIN WITH? WELL, THE REASON THE CITY INVESTED MONEY IN THESE CITY STUDIES WAS 'CAUSE WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF FLOODING THAT THE FEMA FLOOD MAPS DIDN'T SHOW OR DEMONSTRATE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE CITY INVESTED IN THESE AND WHY WE DO REQUIRE DETENTION.
DETENTION WORKS REALLY GREAT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT A BASIN WIDE LEVEL, YOU DELAY THE FLOW UP HERE, IT MIGHT COMBINE WITH ANOTHER FLOW DOWN HERE TO CAUSE A RISE.
SO IT WORKS REALLY GOOD FOR THE LOCAL AREA, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.
DETENTION DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK THAT GREAT FOR A BASIN WIDE.
IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE'D HAVE THIS WHOLE MODEL OF THE WHOLE BASIN TO PUT THE DETENTION IN TO SEE HOW IT COMES OUT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE SUCH A LARGE AND EXPENSIVE MODEL TO BUILD THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHY THESE URBAN STUDIES ARE, AND THESE URBAN STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE, THE CHM TWO HILL, THE COFFEE CREEK ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY DO, THEY DO EXPLAIN FLOODING.
THAT WASN'T DEMONSTR NOT DEMONSTRATED IN THE FEMA.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE WILLWOOD CHANNEL, WHICH WE HAD TO GO AND, UH, THOSE LOTS WERE PUT IN, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEMA FLOWS.
AND THERE WAS, I THINK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JEFF, 54 HOMES IN THERE, THAT 52 HOMES IN THERE THAT WERE FLOODING.
AND SO WE HAD TO GO IN THERE AND DO THAT CONCRETE LINE CHANNEL, BUT AT THE TIME, THAT WOULD END ACCORDING TO FEMA AND THE FEMA FLOWS 2,500 CFS.
WELL, WHEN CORE WENT IN THERE AND REWORKED THAT CALCULATIONS, THEY COME UP WITH 4,100 CFS AND THE SPRING CREEK STUDY HAD 4,060 CFS.
SO THE, WHEN FEMA REWORKED THE WILLOW WOOD CHANNEL, THEY ACTUALLY WENT UP SLIGHTLY ON THE CFS FLOWS FROM THE SPRING CREEK.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO SAY OUR CITY STUDIES ARE UNIMPORTANT.
THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND THERE IS A REASON FOR 'EM AND WHY WE DO 'EM AND WHY WE HAVE ADOPTED THEM.
IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE CONFUSION HERE IS REVOLVES AROUND THE DIFFERENT MAPS THOUGH, OR DIFFERENT TIMES FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
UM, I GUESS IS THIS POINTING OUT THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK TO CHARACTERIZE THAT BETTER AS A CITY? OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING THAT? I MEAN, IT'S A SWAB DISCUSSION TOPIC MORE THAN HERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME UNCERTAINTY AROUND THAT THAT'S JUST CAUSING SOME SPECULATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON ALL THESE THINGS.
WELL, THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN THERE.
I MEAN, UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I THINK AT ONE POINT I GOT A LETTER FROM, UH, THEIR ENGINEER WHERE I'D REQUESTED THAT TO TELL 'EM HOW, TELL HOW THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE VARIANCE I'D HAVE.
IT'S BEEN SINCE IT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT LETTER.
BUT I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY.
AND THEN CAN YOU COMMENT MY LAST QUESTION? CAN YOU COMMENT ON THE, UM, THE COMMENT ABOUT NOTIFYING NEIGHBORS BASED ON OUR LATEST MODELING, IS THERE AN ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE AS A CITY STAFF TO, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT NOW.
WHEN WE DID THOSE SPRINT, WHEN WE DID THOSE CITY STUDIES, WE DIDN'T NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY'RE SHOWN WITHIN THE CITY STUDY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT IF I WAS WATCHING AT HOME AND I LIVED RIGHT THERE, I WOULD PROBABLY WANNA KNOW THAT ANSWER.
RIGHT? SO WELL AS A PART OF YOUR MORTGAGE OR WHAT, WHATEVER THE N-I-N-F-I-P STUFF, UH, THE CITY STUDIES AREN'T GONNA FALL UNDER THAT.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE REQUIRED TO HAVE MORTGAGE INSURANCE.
UH, FLOOD INSURANCE FOR YOUR MORTGAGE TO ME.
AND SO FEMA'S NOT GONNA LOOK AT THAT, NOT GONNA REGULATE THAT.
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BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT HERE, BUT I'D LIKE AN ANSWER OFFLINE ON WHETHER THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION THERE, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T FULFILLED.I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR SCHWAB, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS BEFORE WE'RE DONE, BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THEM.
I MISS, I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION, MR. BEATTY.
SO I JUST WANT THIS BOILED DOWN INTO A NUTSHELL HERE.
THE APPLICANT IS SITTING HERE SAYING THAT THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN THE FLOW, THAT THEY'RE REDUCING THE ELEVATION.
DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT? THERE IS A SLIGHT REDUCTION.
SO HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD THAT EVER IMPACT ANYONE'S INSURANCE? IF IT'S MAKING AN IMPROVEMENT, IT POTENTIALLY CAN AFFECT OUR CRS RATING.
THE LOGIC IN ME SAYS IF IT'S BETTER, IT WON'T.
THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME LOGIC IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, SAYING IT, IT MIGHT, IT COULD, IT POTENTIALLY, THE LOGIC THOUGH, SAYS IF THEY'VE IMPROVED THE SITUATION, THE INSURANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE.
THE CRS PROGRAM IS ABOUT OUR HIGHER STANDARD.
AND WHEN WE GRANT VARIANCE TO OUR HIGHER STANDARDS, WE PUT OUR RATING AT RISK.
WELL, LET ME ASK YOU, LET ME ASK YOU THIS THEN.
HAVE YOU DONE THE WORK TO PROVE OR DISPROVE WHAT THEY'VE SAID, WHAT THIS PARTICULAR CASE WILL DO TO OUR CS RATING? UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE FEDS WILL DO.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE FEDS DID BEFORE LAST.
SO HAVE YOU HAVE NOT DONE THE ANALYSIS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHETHER WHAT THEIR ENGINEER SAID IMPROVES THE SITUATION OR MAKES IT WORSE AND HOW FEMA WOULD REACT TO IT? THAT WOULD BE A VERY HARD ANSWER TO GET OUT OF FEMA THAT WE'LL FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT IS WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PROBLEM IN ITSELF.
I I DO, I WANNA HEAR FROM OUR TWO SWAB MEMBERS ON THIS.
I I VOTED YES AT SWAB FOR, I VOTED FOR THE VARIANCE AT SCHWAB, AND I DID SO ON THE FACT THAT THE STORY THAT I WAS TOLD WAS A, THE APPLICANT HAD BEEN REQUIRED TO DO MODELING, MEASURING.
THEY, DID THEY COME BACK? THE STAFF ASK THEM TO DO ANOTHER VERSION OF THAT? THAT WAS, THAT WAS DONE, THAT WAS DONE THREE OR FOUR TIMES IF I'M, AM I RIGHT MR. MASSEY? YES.
AND I DIDN'T GET ANY OBJECTION THAT THE RISE, THERE WAS NO RISE THAT HAD ACTUALLY GONE DOWN AN INCH, IF I BELIEVE.
THEY'RE SAYING YES IF YOU CAN'T HEAR 'EM.
UH, SO BASED UPON THAT, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR THE VARIANCE AT SWAB.
AND TONIGHT, AND IF WE SEE US DOWN THE ROAD, IF THINGS ARE HAYWIRE OUT THERE WITH A SITE PLAN AND AND SO FORTH, WE CAN ALWAYS SAY NO.
I MEAN, TONIGHT'S JUST THE STARTER KIT TO THIS WHOLE THING.
AND IF IT CAN'T GET DONE, IF YOU CAN'T BUILD ON IT, IF SOME DISCOVERY'S MADE LATER, I MEAN, MR. LEWIS AND HIS TEAM HAVE GOT THEIR WORK CUT OUT FOR 'EM TO BEGIN WITH.
SO THAT WAS MY RATIONALE FOR VOTING YES.
AND I'M GONNA VOTE YES TONIGHT.
NOTHING TO ADD TO THAT, MR. MAYOR, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'D LIKE TO GO.
SECOND MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. MAYOR, MAY I PLEASE OFFER A MOTION? LET ME GUESS.
YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL SEVEN 20? IT'S GONNA NEED TO BE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT, BUT NOT MUCH.
I GOT, I GOT A MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL 7 25.
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0 5 5 4 0 5 5.[E. Public Hearing and Consideration of the Following Items Related to the Scheduling of a Special Election on November 18, 2025, for the Purpose of Submitting to the Registered, Qualified Voters of the City of Edmond, the Question of Approval of the Extension of The Existing .50% Sales Tax For Capital Improvements And The Extension Of The Existing 1% General Purpose Sales Tax: Public Hearing And Consideration Of Ordinance No. _____ Amending Existing Sales Tax Ordinance No. 3527; Amending Sections 3.04.150(A) And Section 3.04.150(B) Of The Edmond Municipal Code; Providing For An Extension of An Existing One Percent (1.0%) General Sales Tax For An Additional Ten Years And Eleven Days; Providing For Effective And Operative Dates; And Providing For Repeal of Certain Ordinance Provisions And Severability. Public Hearing And Consideration Of Ordinance No. _____ Amending Existing Sales Tax Ordinance No. 3528; Amending Subsections 3. And 4. of Section 3.04.180 of The Edmond Municipal Code; Providing For An Extension of An Existing One Half of One Percent (0.50%) Sales Tax For An Additional Ten Years; Establishing The Purpose of The Tax During The Extension; Providing Effective And Operative Dates; And Providing For Repeal of Certain Ordinance Provisions And Severability. Public Hearing and Consideration of Resolution No. _____ Authorizing the Calling and Holding of an Election in the City of Edmond, in the State Of Oklahoma on the 18th Day of November, 2025, For The Purpose Of Submitting To The Registered, Qualified Voters Of Said City, Two Propositions, the First Proposition Being the Question of the Approval Ordinance No. _____ Amending Ordinance No. 3527 for the Purpose of Extending the Duration of an Existing One Percent (1.0%) City of Edmond General Purpose Sales Tax, Which Was Most Recently Approved by the Voters on April 5, 2016, for an Additional Ten Years and Eleven Days; and the Second Proposition Being the Question of Approval of Ordinance No. _____ Amending Ordinance No. 3528 for the Purpose of Extending the Duration of the Existing One-Half of One Percent (0.50%) City of Edmond Special Purpose Sales Tax, Commonly Known as the Public Safety Center Sales Tax, Which Was Most Recently Approved by the Voters on April 5, 2016, for an Additional Ten Years and Establishing the Purpose of the Tax Collected During Such Ten Year Extension to Provide Funds to Pay the Cost of Capital Improvements in the Form of Street Repairs and Improvements for the City of Edmond as Recommended by the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board and as Determined by the Edmond City Council and/or to Secure and Pay Debt Service on Obligations Issued for Such Purpose by a Public Trust of Which the City is Beneficiary, Provided The Projects May Also Be Funded From Other Revenue Sources if They Become Available; and Other Matters Related Thereto. Special Election Proclamation and Notice hereby Calling for a Special Election to be held on November 18, 2025.]
AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 5 2 8 FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXTENDING THE DURATION OF THE EXISTING ONE HALF OF 1%.CITY OF EDMOND'S SPECIAL PURPOSE SALES TAX, COMMONLY KNOWN AS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER SALES TAX, WHICH WAS MOST RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE VOTERS ON APRIL 5TH, 2016, FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 YEARS IN ESTABLISHING THE PURPOSE OF THE TAX COLLECTED DURING SUCH TENURE YEAR EXTENSION TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE COST OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND FORM STREET REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITY OF EDMONDS, RECOMMENDED BY THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ADVISORY BOARD, AND IS DETERMINED BY THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL AND OR TO SECURE AND PAY DEBT SERVICE ON OBLIGATIONS ISSUED FOR SUCH PURPOSE BY A PUBLIC TRUST OF WHICH THE CITY IS BENEFICIARY, PROVIDED THE PROJECTS MAY ALSO BE FUNDED FROM OTHER REVENUE SOURCES IF THEY BECOME AVAILABLE AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERETO.
NUMBER FOUR, SPECIAL ELECTION PROCLAMATION AND NOTICE HEREBY CALLING FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025.
I MADE IT THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE ME A BREATHER? SEEMS ALMOST CRUEL.
UH, REAL BRIEFLY, UH, ON AUGUST 25TH, CITY COUNCIL INSTRUCTED STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND PREPARE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR SPECIAL ELECTION.
UH, THAT ELECTION WOULD ALLOW THE TEMPORARY CIP SALES TAX, WHICH IS A HALF CENT, AND THE GENERAL FUND SALES TAX, WHICH IS A, A TEMPORARY GENERAL FUND SALES TAX, WHICH IS A FULL CENT TO BE EXTENDED FOR A 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME IF APPROVED BY VOTERS.
UH, REAL SIMPLY PUT, UH, THE QUESTIONS WILL INCLUDE THE EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT SALES TAXES THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
THERE'S NO INCREASE BEING PROPOSED AND A COMMITMENT OF THE CIP SALES TAX TO IMPROVEMENTS AND REPAIRS TO STREETS AND ROADS.
UM, THIS SAYS A LITTLE BACKGROUND BOT TAXES WILL EXPIRE IN MARCH, MARCH OF 27, IF NOT RENEWED.
UH, THE GENERAL FUND SALES TAX OR THE 1 CENT SALES TAX GENERATES APPROXIMATELY $24 MILLION A YEAR.
TWO THIRDS OF THE CENT FUNDS POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES WITH ONE THIRD OF THE CENT GOING TO GENERAL CITY OPERATIONS.
UH, THE CIP SALES TAX, THE HALF CENT GENERATES APPROXIMATELY 12 MILLION MILLION A YEAR AS PROPOSED.
THOSE WOULD FUND IMPROVEMENTS IN REPAIRS TO STREETS AND ROADS.
UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, I'VE, I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE VOICE CONCERNS ABOUT, WELL,
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IF EVERYTHING'S GOING TO ROADS, WHICH IS VERY NEEDED, BUT WHAT ABOUT PARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE? UH, QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS.THERE IS THE PERMANENT CIP TAX, WHICH WILL STILL BE IN EFFECT.
UH, BOTH CAN BE USED FOR QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS.
UH, APPROXIMATELY THE, THERE'S ABOUT $8 MILLION A YEAR COMBINED FOR THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS.
SO THE ITEMS BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING SALES TAX ORDINANCES, THE RESOLUTION AND THE SPECIAL ELECTION PROCLAMATION, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY READ.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME SEVERAL CITIZENS CALL REGARDING THE PARKS.
AND THE CONTINUATION OF SERVICES THAT WE OFFER FOR OUR PARKS.
SO I IMMEDIATELY CALLED YOU AND MET WITH YOU.
WE TALKED IT THROUGH, YOU CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO CONTINUE TO NEARLY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT, GIVE OR TAKE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UH, OUR PARKS WILL CONTINUE TO BE FUNDED AT THE CURRENT LEVEL, MAYBE SLIGHTLY LESS, MR. RAINEY, THAT OUGHT TO MAKE YOU HAPPY.
AND, UH, SO I TALKED TO THOSE FOLKS OVER THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY OF THIS PAST WEEK.
THEIR CONCERNS WERE MET, UH, ALLEVIATED, I SHOULD SAY.
AND, UH, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE EFFORTS THAT YOU MADE.
SECOND THING, MR. MAYOR, UH, I HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING WITH I THINK MR. MOORE, WITH THE CASEY MOORE, WITH THE, THE CITY, UH, MS. KING WITH THE CHAMBER STAFF, AND MS. JORDAN, THE HEAD OF THE CHAMBER TO TALK WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS.
MS. JORDAN CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF.
SHE'S WELCOME TO COME UP HERE IF SHE'D LIKE.
UH, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, UH, WE HAD A NICE CHAT.
UH, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS, FOR OUR CITY.
AND I, I SPOKE OF THE PARKS WHILE WE WERE THERE, OR MAYBE AS THE MEETING WAS BUSTED UP.
BUT MS. JORDAN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND HIGHLIGHTING THAT THOUGHT.
YES, WE SPOKE ABOUT THE HOPEFUL UPCOMING ELECTION, HOW EXCITED WE ARE TO GET STARTED ON IT.
UM, WE'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AS SOON AS YOU GUYS APPROVE THE ELECTION.
AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WELL, I, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, UM, APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TIME, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR HELP.
UH, MR. MAYOR, I, I, I DO WANT TO, I KNOW MR. SMITH'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I, I KNOW HE HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKS.
HE CALLED ME TWICE AND WE HAD A NICE CHAT.
AND I BELIEVE HE'S SATISFIED WITH THE, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM THAT HE'S SATISFIED WITH THE SOLUTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAME UP WITH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN MOORE.
MY NAME IS RICK SMITH AT ONE, OH, I LIVE AT 1 0 5 0 9 COVAS DRIVE, ARCADIA, 7 3 0 0 7.
NOW THAT'S THE MAILING ADDRESS.
I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY OF EDMOND IN COUNCILMAN MOORE'S DISTRICT.
WE CALL IT FAKE ARCADIA, WHERE WE COME FROM
I, UH, I FIRST SAW THAT YOU WERE LIMITING THE CENT SALES TAX TO STREETS.
WHEN I READ IT IN THE PAPER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, FROM THAT NIGHT AND YOUR LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT A VERY THOROUGH DISCUSSION.
UM, AND I, I CALLED BARRY BECAUSE I WAS VERY CONCERNED.
I'M ON THE PARK AND REC ADVISORY BOARD.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
UM, AND SO I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FUTURE FUNDING FOR BARKS.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A BUDGET, WE'VE GOT CAPITAL PROJECTS AS YOU ALL DO AS WELL.
AND I KNOW ULTIMATELY YOU APPROVE THEM AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLING ADVISORY BOARD.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT FUTURE FUNDING.
BARRY AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS.
I'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHERS, AND I, I THINK THE SOLUTION IS, IS FINE.
UM, BUT I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND LOOK AT OTHER FUNDING RESOURCES AND REVENUES TO HELP PARKS.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND I'LL CERTAINLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST, MR. SMITH, THOSE ARE, UH, GOOD WORDS.
UM, WE DO NEED TO LOOK FOR OTHER SOURCES FOR PARKS AND ADDITIONAL STREETS AND ROADS AND OTHER THINGS.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DRAW COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND EVERYONE'S TO PAGE 3 54, THE OF THEIR MATERIALS.
I STILL CONTEND AND WANT TO TAKE NOTE THAT BEING IN LAST PLACE DOESN'T GET US ONE EXTRA SALES DOLLAR.
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NOW THE COMMENTS, WELL, I GUESS I'LL THROW A FEW IN THERE BEFORE WE SEE IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK FROM THE FLOOR.UM, MR. FRAME, I STILL AGREE WITH YOU
AND I MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE VOTERS IN BOTH FEBRUARY AND APRIL THAT WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE GET OUR HOUSE IN ORDER, WHEN WE GET OUR, OUR BUDGET TO A POINT WHERE EVERYONE IN TOWN CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WE KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THIS CITY, I'M THERE WITH YOU.
EVERYONE KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS TONIGHT? HEY, TEAM TAYLOR HILDENBRAND FROM 1533 HISTORICAL AVENUE, WHICH IS WARD TWO.
SO JUST A COUPLE QUICK THOUGHTS AND, UH, MAYBE AN IDEA OR TWO.
SO I'M THE CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD WITH MR. SMITH.
AND, UM, HAD AN INTERESTING KIND OF OBSERVATION 'CAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UH, BROKEN ROADS DON'T NECESSARILY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY, BUT A TRAIL ACCESS MAY OR MAY NOT CONTRIBUTE TO A TWO TO 5% INCREASE IN A CERTAIN OCCUPANCY OF A CERTAIN PROJECT THAT'S DIRECTLY CORRELATED, UH, TO A PARK PROJECT, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN ABOUT $32,000 OF ADDITIONAL CITY REVENUE.
OR I GUESS YOU COULD SEE THAT AS A REDUCTION OF CITY REVENUE SHOULD TRAIL ACCESS TO A HUGE AMENITY OF THE CITY OF EDMOND.
NOT BE AVAILABLE TO MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPER, WHICH IS KIND OF COOL, I THOUGHT.
BUT I THINK JUST FROM A GENERAL STANDPOINT, THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD WOULD PROBABLY LAND IN THE, THE FRAMEWORK WHERE MR. SMITH LANDED.
SO I HAVEN'T, UH, I KNOW WE'RE ALL KIND OF NEW TO THIS BOARD.
I'M NEW TO THE CHAIR POSITION.
SO HERE'S MY IDEA, KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE SPEED AT WHICH IT'S GOING, UNDERSTAND THE NATURE AND THE CONSTRAINTS OF WHICH WE'RE WORKING WITH, GIVEN THE, THE TIMELINE.
AND SO, UM, OUR PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEETS THE THIRD THURSDAY AT FIVE 30.
I'LL BRING THE PIZZA AND A PRESENTATION ON THE PARKS BOARD, UH, PROJECTED BUDGET.
IF YOU WANNA BRING AN OPEN MIND, WE'LL HAVE AN EMPTY CHAIR FOR YOU.
SO WE'D LOVE TO MEET YOU THERE AND, UH, KIND OF GO OVER WHERE WE SEE OUR SPEND IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR A MUTUALLY ASSURED SUCCESS.
UM, THERE'S A REALLY POPULAR BOOK OUT THERE THAT SAYS, UH, PLANS FAIL FOR LACK OF COUNSEL, BUT WITH MANY ADVISORS, PLANS SUCCEED.
SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD COUNSEL.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS, UH, SOME ADVISORY OF THE PARKS AND REC VARIETY.
SO, MR. MAYOR? YES, I SPOKE WITH FORMER MAYOR NAFI ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY STAFF.
THE CITY MANAGER CAN, IT MIGHT BE MR. CONYERS, I'M NOT SURE WHO, BUT THEY'LL BE IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT PARK MEETING FOR, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF THE, THE PROCESS ON THE BUDGET ON THE TAX WITH THE PARKS.
YEAH, AND I THINK SOME CITY PRESENCE THERE WOULD BE GREAT.
ALSO, JOE'S FAMOUS PIECE IS PRETTY GOOD, SO IT'LL BE THERE IF YOU, UH, WANT TO PARTAKE.
ANYONE ELSE? TAYLOR WILSON, 7 4 8 DUNE CIRCLE.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DEDICATING IT TO THE ROADS.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE CURRENTLY IN EDMOND AND FULLY AGREE, WE WILL NEED TO COME BACK AT A LATER DATE AFTER ALL THE WORK'S DONE TO RAISE THE SALES TAX MORE.
AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE BRAD'S BEEN RUNNING AROUND A DOCUMENT TO, UM, LOOK AT, UH, SPONSORING ACTIVITIES BOTH IN THE PARKS, WHICH I KNOW THEY FULLY APPROVED.
MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.
ANYONE ELSE? SEEN NONE? COUNSEL, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO?
CAN WE DO THAT? WE GOTTA DO ONE ON EACH ONE.
WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA HANDLE EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS SEPARATELY.
SO, SO WE NEED TO START WITH 10 E ONE.
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FIVE ZERO ON TO 10 E TWO I MOVE TO APPROVE.
MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ON THE NEXT ITEM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 35 DASH 25.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I SAID LAST TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S 35 DASH 25.
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAID LAST TIME.
YOU SURE? ALRIGHT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON, ON 10 E THREE.
MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[11. Executive Sessions and Action Items:]
EXECUTIVE SESSION.AND ACTION ITEMS. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST TO VOTE.
WELL I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, EXIT EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO, MA'AM.
[13. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR OR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? I DO.MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A STATEMENT HERE.
I WAS GONNA READ IT, BUT THE HOUR'S LATE.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO OFFER THIS INTO THE RECORD TO BE PLACED IN THE MINUTES.
UH, I'LL READ THE FIRST SENTENCE.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO, TO EXTEND MY SINCERE APPRECIATION TO THE MANY STAFF MEMBERS WHO MADE THE TRANSITION INTO OUR NEW CITY HALL AND MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDINGS.
I'M NOT GONNA NAME EVERYBODY TONIGHT, BUT THERE'S SOME I DO WANNA NAME.
AND, UH, MS. ROBERTSON RIGHT HERE IS THE FIRST ONE I WANNA NAME.
ALSO WANT TO THANK TODD HILDEBRAND.
THERE ARE MANY OTHERS, BUT I, MS. COBB AT IT.
UH, MATT BROWN AT FACILITY MAINTENANCE.
SO THEIR NAMES ARE LISTED HERE AS WELL.
UH, AND SO, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT BOTH MY COMMENTS AND THEIR NAMES FOR THE RECORD TO BE PLACED IN THE MINUTES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
I HAVE LOFTY GOALS FOR SAYING NICE THINGS AT THE END, BUT I'M ALWAYS TOO WORN OUT, SO.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.