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[1. Call to Order of the Edmond Planning Commission.]
ARE GOING TO BEGIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH, 2025.UH, CALL TO ORDER THE E PLANNING COMMISSION.
[2. General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Planning Commission. Members of the Planning Commission may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
ITEM IS NUMBER TWO.SO GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS, UH, ITEMS LISTED UNDER THE GENERAL CONSENT ARE USUALLY APPROVED AS A GROUP WITH A PROPER MOTION FROM A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY PULL ANY ITEM UNDER GENERAL CONSENT FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY THEY'D WISH TO, UH, BE HEARD SEPARATELY WITH A, B, C, AND D? I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT B, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL B AND LET'S HEAR THAT.
LET'S HAVE THAT ONE HEARD SEPARATELY.
ANY OTHERS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SO WE'LL BE VOTING ON AGENDA ITEMS A, C, AND D FOR THE GENERAL CONSENT, UH, AGENDA HERE.
SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO NOTHING.
THE GENERAL CONSENT ITEM IS APPROVED.
[A. Consideration of General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
ON TO DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION ITEMS. SO HERE IS WHERE WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM TWO B AND WE WILL HAVE MR. BRIAN PRESENT THAT ITEM.YEAH, UH, ITEM NUMBER B IS CASE NUMBER DD 25 DASH 0 0 8 CONSIDERATION OF A DEED APPROVAL FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 25 21 VALLEY VIEW ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 4.8 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS A SPECIFIC LOCATION JUST SOUTH OF COVELL ON THE WEST SIDE OF VALLEY VIEW ROAD.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT, WHICH HAS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET AND A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 50 FEET.
THIS APPLICATION PROPOSES TO DIVIDE THE EXISTING PARCEL INTO TWO PARCELS.
TRACK ONE WILL BE 66,000 SQUARE FEET AND 200 FEET WIDE, AND TRACK TWO WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 152,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A MINIMUM WIDTH OF 129 FEET.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU.
DO YOU WISH TO ADD TO MR. BRIAN'S PRESENTATION OR, UH, RELY ON HIS PRESENTATION? THANK YOU, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC, UH, COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY.
AND WHAT IF YOU'LL DO IS YOU'LL COME UP, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND JUST WHAT HAPPENS IS WE'LL ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS OF US AND THEN AFTER EVERYBODY'S ASKED ALL THEIR QUESTIONS, WE WILL GET UH, COMMENTS FROM THE UH, APPLICANT.
I LIVE AT 25 20 VALLEY VIEW ROAD RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UH, THE ONE, ONE THING THAT HAS BOTHERED ME WITH THIS PROCESS IS THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WE HAVE HAD TO DIG AND DIG TO FIND OUT THAT THIS WAS UNDERWAY.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED IN HERE, BOUGHT PROPERTY 26 YEARS AGO, AND AS SOON AS WE DROVE DOWN THAT STREET WITH REALTOR, WE KNEW THAT THIS IS WHERE WE WANTED TO LIVE.
IT WAS A RURAL FEEL TO IT PRIVATE.
IT WAS A PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAFE.
IT'S A DEAD END ROAD AND WE GET TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS.
IT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO DO THAT, BUT FAR ENOUGH AWAY THAT IT FELT PRIVATE.
IT BOTHERS ME THAT WE ARE BEGINNING TO URBANIZE THIS THE FIRST STEP IN URBANIZING.
THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE SECOND LOCK COULDN'T BE FURTHER DIVIDED, AND THAT IS CONCERNING TO US, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO TRANSPARENCY ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M ASKING THIS PANEL TO NOT APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
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YOUR TIME.ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? THANK YOU.
I LIVE ON 2320 VALLEY VIEW ROAD.
UM, BASICALLY WE ARE ALL MOVED IN THERE THINKING WE HAD FIVE ACRE LAND.
UM, MY PERSONAL PROPERTY IS, UH, WILDLIFE HABITAT CERTIFIED.
WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HORSES, UM, DIFFERENT LIVESTOCK, LARGE VEGETABLE GARDENS.
BASICALLY WE CONSIDER IT A RURAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, PROBABLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS DIVISION IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT ON THE SECOND LOT.
UM, THIS, UH, LOT IS BUILT, IS SET UP AS A, A LARGE, UM, HORSE STABLING BARN WITH AN ARENA.
UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT SOMEBODY COULD POTENTIALLY BUY THAT AND USE IT AS THAT AND MOVE IN A, A TINY HOUSE TO SET UP, UH, FOR THE MANAGER OF THE STABLE TO LIVE IN, UM, HOUSE MULTIPLE HORSES, MULTIPLE FAMILY HORSES IN THAT LOCATION AND BASICALLY HOUSE LIKE THAT, UM, ON OUR STREET WOULD AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES.
UM, IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE THIS TO, TO NOT THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? I'M, UH, DARYL, LAST NAME IS NASAL ROAD.
AND UM, I USED TO BE A PROFESSOR AT UCO.
I'VE LIVED, I WOULD SAY ALL MY ADULT LIFE IN THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ELSE TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE, I'M GONNA SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CHEMISTRY THAT HAS EXISTED FOR 40 PLUS YEARS NOW.
I KNOW IT'S, IT'S A, UH, OPINION, BUT MY OPINION IS THAT THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE ENJOYED A RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER AND TO ALLOW, ACTUALLY IT'S, IT'S THE, UH, PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
MY HOUSE IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND UH, FOR THAT TO BE CHANGED TO CHANGE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO, I WOULD THINK, CHANGE, UH, EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY.
I KNOW IT'S AN OPINION, IT'S A FEELING, BUT EVERYONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR OWN OPINION.
SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS.
ANY FURTHER, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OR AGAINST RUTLEDGE AND I BOUND, UH, I'M ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY AND AS OF AUGUST, I'VE BEEN THERE 49 YEARS.
I WAS TOLD WHEN I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY THAT NONE OF THAT COULD BE SUBDIVIDED.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE GONE WITH ALL THIS TIME.
I'M CONCERNED THERE IS IF THEY SPLIT, THERE IS NOT GAS THERE, THERE IS NOT, UM, WATER THERE AND ONLY ELECTRIC SERVES THE BIG BARN.
AND EDMOND, I THINK THOSE HOMES WERE ALL BUILT IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, LATE SIXTIES, AND EDMOND CHOSE NOT TO BRING ELECTRICITY AND WATER AND SEWER OUT.
SO THAT'S THE REASON ALL THOSE PROPERTIES ARE OWNED THEIR OWN WELL IN SEPTIC.
WHEN EDMUND HAS A FIRE ON I 35 IN COVE, THAT AREA, I DO NOT HAVE WATER.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANOTHER WATER WELL BEING DRILLED ON THAT OTHER, ON THE OTHER DIVISION.
SO THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN IS ANOTHER WATER WELL AND THE UTILITIES ARE NOT
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST? MY NAME
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IS JOYCE JENDELL AND I LIVE AT 25 20 VALLEY VIEW ACROSS STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.AND AGAIN, WHEN WE MOVED THERE, A REALTOR TOLD US THAT NONE OF THE HOUSES OR NONE OF THE PROPERTY COULD BE SUBDIVIDED WITHOUT ALL OF THE NEIGHBOR'S APPROVAL AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT WRITTEN ANYWHERE.
BUT ANOTHER NEIGHBOR TOLD US THAT THEY HAD HEARD THE SAME THING.
ANOTHER CONCERN WE HAVE IS, AS MRS. RUTLEDGE JUST SAID, IF ANOTHER WELL HAS TO BE DUG FOR THIS SECOND PROPERTY, THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD ON THE LOCAL AQUIFER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAY AFFECT WATER AVAILABILITY FOR ALL OF OUR EXISTING HOUSES.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE.
ALRIGHT, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
WOULD THE APPLICANT WISH TO COME TO THE PODIUM? UH, YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY WASN'T MANY QUESTIONS PER SE OTHER THAN MAYBE THE FUTURE USE.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT IT REAL QUICK.
MARK EUSTIS THE, UH, OBVIOUSLY HOMEOWNER.
UM, WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE RURAL FIELD.
WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO OPTIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE PLACE.
IT IS UNPLED, SO OBVIOUSLY IT CAN BE SPLIT AND KEEPING THE UH, WE JUST, UM, MADE A FAIRLY GOOD INVESTMENT IN THE BARN IN THE ARENA AND THE FENCING, WHICH WAS ALL IN PRETTY SAD SHAPE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT AMAZING AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BRING DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER, TRYING TO IMPROVE ALL OF IT AND CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT THEIR FEELINGS OR OPINIONS TO BE MINIMIZED AT ALL.
BUT WANT TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT EDMUND HAS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE RULES AND DO IT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF? IF NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO NOTHING.
THIS IS APPROVED HERE AND IT ENDS HERE TONIGHT.
MOVING ON TO THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING
[A. Case No. SP25-00006; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for Chipotle at Legacy at Covell, located on the north side of Covell Road, east of Sooner Road. (Covell 35 Development, LLC; Ward 2) ]
ITEMS. UH, AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER FOUR A.THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT USUALLY ARE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY BY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
EACH ITEM PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITIES RULES.
UM, AND ALL COMMENTS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER A CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 0 6 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR CHIPOTLE AT LEGACY AT COVELL.
MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COVELL AND MARKET STREET.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
IT INCLUDES ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 2300 SQUARE FEET.
TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ARE PROPOSED, ONE FULL ACCESS DRIVE ON HERITAGE PARK DRIVE, AND A RIGHT TURN ONLY DRIVE ON MARKET STREET.
A VARIANCE OF THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION STANDARD IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THE HERITAGE PARK DRIVE ACCESS POINT.
THE REQUESTED FOR A REDUCTION FROM THE REQUIRED 150 FEET TO APPROXIMATELY 105 FEET.
THIS VARIANCE IS SUPPORTED BECAUSE IT BALANCES A VARIETY OF CONSTRAINTS RELATED TO STACKING, CIRCULATION, LOADING, UNLOADING, SOLID WASTE SERVICE, AND THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION AT COVAL AND MARKET.
THE ELEVATIONS SHOW THE BUILDING TO BE 21 FEET TALL AT ITS HIGHEST POINT.
THE FACADE WILL CONSIST OF BRICK WITH METAL CANOPIES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL INCLUDING THE REQUESTED DRIVEWAY SEPARATION VARIANCE.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION BY MR. BRYAN OR RELYING ON HIS COMMENTS? NOTHING ADD.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK FORWARD OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? HEARING NONE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
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TO, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO NOTHING THAT IS APPROVED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON OCTOBER 27TH, 2025.
[B. Case No. SP25-00003; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for Cooper’s Hawk at Legacy at Covell, located on the north side of Covell Road, east of Sooner Road. (Covell 35 Development, LLC; Ward 2)]
TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR B, CASE NUMBER SP DASH 0 0 0 0 3 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR COOPER HAWKS COOPER'S HAWK AT LEGACY OF COVE.MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY 2.2 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COVELL AND CONFERENCE DRIVE.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 9,800 SQUARE FEET.
TWO FULL ACCESS DRIVES ON HERITAGE PARK ARE PROPOSED.
A VARIANCE OF THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION STANDARD IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THE ACCESS NEAREST CONFERENCE DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS FOR REDUCTION FROM THE REQUIRED 150 FEET TO APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET.
THIS VARIANCE IS SUPPORTED BECAUSE THE SPACING ALLOWS SEPARATION BETWEEN THE NEW DRIVES AND CREATES FAVORABLE ALIGNMENT WITH THE EXISTING DRIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HERITAGE PARK.
THE ELEVATION SHOW THE BUILDING TO BE 24 FEET TALL AT ITS HIGHEST POINT AND THE FACADE CONSISTS OF BRICK FIBER, CEMENT BOARD AND PLASTER FINISH WITH ACCENT METAL.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL INCLUDING THE REQUESTED DRIVEWAY SEPARATION VARIANCE.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? ONE QUICK QUESTION ON CONFERENCE DRIVE AND HERITAGE PARK.
IS THERE, I GO OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.
IS IT A STOP SIGN OR A STOPLIGHT? I THINK IT'S A STOP SIGN, RIGHT? THAT'S INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT? YEAH.
YEAH, THE ONE, IT'S A STOP SIGN AT THE CURRENT TIME.
IT'S A STOPLIGHT THERE ON COVEL.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FOR OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE.
MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
ANYBODY WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
NOW MOVING ON TO LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I WILL SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE DOES NOTHING, THAT ONE IS APPROVED.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 27TH, 2025.
[C. Case No. Z24-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “PUD Z14-00018” Memorial Pointe Senior Apartments Planned Unit Development to “PUD Z25-00005” Ostovar Plaza on Memorial Planned Unit Development, located on the northwest corner of Memorial and Rhode Island. (Allen Engineering Services LLC; Ward 3) ]
AGENDA ITEM FOUR C, CASE NUMBER Z 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM PUDZ 14 DASH 0 0 1 8.MEMORIAL POINT SENIOR APARTMENTS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO PUDZ 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 5 OVAR PLAZA ON MEMORIAL PLANNED UNIT.
MR. BRYAN, WILL YOU PLEASE PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST IS APPROXIMATELY 3.3 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MEMORIAL ROAD AND RHODE ISLAND AVENUE NEARBY.
ZONING AND USES INCLUDE A COMMERCIAL PUD TO THE EAST FOR FROST AUTO ACCESSORIES TO THE NORTH.
ZONED A SINGLE FAMILY AND IS DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS TO THE WEST IS ZONED D ONE COMMERCIAL AND IS BEING DEVELOPED WITH A MEDICAL OFFICE TO THE SOUTH ACROSS MEMORIAL ROAD IS THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY AND IS DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
EDMOND'S CURRENT ZONING CODE ACCOMMODATES MIXED USE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS BY USING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
SO THE PROPOSED PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING KEY DETAILS.
THE ALLOWED USES INCLUDE TWO FAMILY DWELLING, OFFICE, RESTAURANT AND RETAIL.
A MAXIMUM OF 10 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WOULD BE ALLOWED.
A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET WOULD BE ESTABLISHED.
ACCESS WILL MOST LIKELY BE FROM MEMORIAL ROAD AND FROM RHODE ISLAND AVENUE.
THE EDMOND PLAN 2018 THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHARACTERIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SUBURBAN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS PLAN CATEGORY IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND REFLECTS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WAS COMMON IN THE 1960S, SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.
THESE AREAS TEND TO HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE FULL COMPLIMENT OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES DUE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT LIFECYCLE AND DESIRABILITY.
THESE AREAS OFTEN ATTRACT INFILL OR REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY
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TO HELP ENSURE THAT THESE OPPORTUNITIES CONTRIBUTE TO THE AREA.THE PLANT CALLS FOR DESIGNS TO BE SENSITIVE TO NEARBY DEVELOPMENT BY MAKING EFFICIENT USE OF TWO OR THREE STORY BUILDINGS TO LINE ARTERIALS, MINIMIZE SURFACE PARKING LOTS AND PROVIDE AMIL LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING THE PROPOSED PUD IN THE PROPOSED PUD.
THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BY A COMBINATION OF SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES ALONG MEMORIAL AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, INCLUDING THE SITE PLU, SITE PROOF FENCE SERVING AS BOTH A TRANSITION AND A BUFFER TO THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BRIAN.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU.
DO YOU GUYS WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF MR. BRIAN? I I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING.
UH, CHARLES ALLEN ALLEN ENGINEERING, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THAT'S AN OLDER SITE PLAN.
IF I COULD JUST HAND HAND OUT A NEW ONE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SHOW CONNECTIVITY UH, TO THE WEST THERE TO THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
AND I'VE ALSO, I'VE ALSO GOT A COUPLE KIND OF RENDERING TIME.
I DUNNO, KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
GLOBAL PRODUCT
THE ORIGINAL, UH, PLANS THAT WE SUBMITTED.
I THINK WE HAD TWO INTRICTS ONTO MEMORIAL AND ALSO TWO ONTO RHODE ISLAND AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE A VARIANCE FOR THAT FOR SEPARATION.
SO, UH, THE ONE ENTRANCE ONTO MEMORIAL, WE HAVE MOVED THAT TO THE WEST SO THAT WE'VE GOT 325 FEET OF SEPARATION FROM RHODE ISLAND.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME? YEAH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, YOU GAVE US THE ELEVATION FOR THE, I ASSUME THE SOUTH SIDE.
WHAT IS THE ELEVATION OF THE NORTH SIDE? IS THAT GONNA BE BACK ENTRANCE OR OH NO, THAT'S THE HOUSING OF THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING FEE.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE BACK ENTRANCE, UH, FOR EMPLOYEES AND REALLY THAT BACK ROAD PARKING'S PROBABLY FOR EMPLOYEES SO THAT MORE OF THE, UH, CUSTOMERS COULD BE UP FRONT ALONG MEMORIAL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT? YEAH.
IS YOU'RE NOT ASKING ABOUT THE DUPLEXES TRASH CAN TRASH CANS BACK THERE AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THESE AREN'T THE MOST LOOKING, WE'VE GOT TRASH CANS BETWEEN THE, THE DUPLEXES AND YOU SEE THERE'LL BE DUPLEXES LINING THE NORTH PIECE.
OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ON THE BACK.
AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE OBVIOUSLY ADMIN REQUIRES ENCLOSURES AND I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME LANDSCAPING TRYING TO CONCEAL THOSE AS BEST WE CAN.
AND DO YOU HAVE A, UH, MAYBE I MISSED IT.
THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION FOR THE DUPLEXES IS A SINGLE STORY, TWO STORY.
DO YOU HAVE A WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING TWO STORY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE THERE JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO HAVING, WE'RE GONNA TRY FOR TWO CAR GARAGES FOR UH, PROBABLY TWO BEDROOM, TWO CAR GARAGE.
SO OBVIOUSLY NEED THE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THE LIVING OR UH, BEDROOMS UPSTAIRS.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? WE'LL, WE'LL GET A UH, LANDSCAPING AND ALL THAT AT THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
OUR FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS FROM, FROM STAFF WHEN WE ON OUR FIRST PLAN, UH, HAD A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT LANDSCAPING OR A LOT OF COMMENTS.
SO WE KIND OF GOT AHEAD AND WENT AHEAD AND GOT A LANDSCAPING PLAN DONE, SO YEAH.
YEAH, I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN THERE AND WHENEVER YOU GET TO, IT'D BE LIGHT BIG LIGHTS OFF THE BACK OF THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING SHINING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT.
WELL THE PROP FOR A LATER DATE.
AND THAT'S SOMEWHAT, WE'RE TRYING TO BUFFER THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH WITH THE TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES AND THEN ALSO THE DUPLEXES ARE, HAVE LIMITED LIGHTING JUST FOR PATIO OR UH, BALCONY SO THEY WON'T BE SHINING BACK ONTO THE BACK THERE.
PLUS, UH, EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT NOW, THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR APPLICANT, HEARING NONE.
MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, DOES ANYBODY, UH, IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO, UH, COMMENT FOR OR AGAINST? IF SO, PLEASE BE SURE YOU ADDRESSED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE AND THEN I'LL, WE'LL TRY TO GET ALL, ALL EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
HI, MY NAME IS DEBBIE PIERCE AND I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE, THE NEIGHBORS AND I, SEVERAL NEIGHBORS.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS IS THAT
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WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.IF THERE'S A CATASTROPHE ON MEMORIAL, WE ARE DEAD IN THE WATER AND THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD EIGHT TO 10 DUPLEXES, TWO STORY.
AND THESE HOUSES THAT WE LIVE, I MEAN THE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY ARE TWO ACRES I BELIEVE, OR ONE ACRE, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL HOUSES IN THERE THAT DO HAVE ONE TO TWO ACRES.
I DON'T, 'CAUSE I LIVE WAY IN THE BACK, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU ALLOW ALL THIS TRAFFIC TO COME IN, WE DON'T, WE ONLY HAVE ROADS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DON'T HAVE CURBS, WE HAVE DITCHES.
UM, THERE IS, IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT WHEN CARS GO HEAD ON.
IT, ONE OF US USUALLY HAS TO SLOW DOWN AND IF SOMEBODY IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THESE ROADS, WE HAVE TO STOP SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE CAN GO BY.
AND I JUST WANTED, I JUST TOOK A PICTURE BECAUSE, WELL I WAS LATE BUT THAT'S 'CAUSE I LEFT LATE.
BUT I ALSO TOOK PICTURES BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
THEY HAD ONE LANE OF MEMORIAL BLOCKED OFF AND I HAVE THE PICTURES RIGHT HERE ON MY PHONE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME.
I COULD ONLY TURN RIGHT AND I HAD TO GO DOWN BROADWAY.
BUT, SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF US HAVE.
IT'S THE EIGHT TO 10 DUPLEXES.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT A RESTAURANT EITHER BECAUSE IF THEY GO BACK INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, THEY GET REALLY MAD WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC AND THEY PULL INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUDDENLY FIND OUT THAT ALL THE WAY AROUND THEY JUST GET BACK OUT ON MEMORIAL AGAIN.
AND SO THAT IS A PROBLEM AND I WILL BE GLAD TO SHOW YOU THE PICTURES.
I HAVE THE PICTURE RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THE SIGN IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.
AND I HAVE SEVERAL PICTURES THAT THE TRAFFIC WAS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO PARK PLACE, I BELIEVE IT IS.
IT'S A, UM, AN ASSISTED LIVING THAT IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET FOR OKLAHOMA CITY.
I BELIEVE SO I THINK THAT IS IT.
BUT MAINLY IT'S THE INCREASED TRAFFIC FLOW THAT WE DON'T WANT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THERE WE ONLY HAVE MAYBE, I'M NOT SURE, I'VE NEVER COUNTED HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN A HUNDRED, MAYBE A HUNDRED, MAYBE 120.
UH, SO WE DON'T, WE'RE A LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S A LOT OF FARMHOUSES UP FRONT AND THEN THERE AS YOU GO BACK THEY'VE HAD HOUSES BUILT BACK THERE.
BUT WE WOULD RATHER, IF YOU HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT, IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD RATHER YOU BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS TO MAKE IT A ONE ACRE OR TWO ACRE.
I KNOW SOME HOUSES ON RHODE ISLAND HAVE PUT IN A, AN APARTMENT IN THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE, BUT WE NEED TO STICK WITH WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT WAS.
I HAVE A THIRD OF AN ACRE SO I GO ALL THE WAY BACK.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO YOU WANNA SEE THE PICTURES, ANYBODY? I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH MEMORIAL TRAFFIC, SO YEAH.
UM, I HAVE TWO CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
ONE, I BELIEVE WHEN I READ THEY ARE ASKING THAT THEY NOT BE REQUIRED TO BUILD SIDEWALKS ON MEMORIAL AND I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THOSE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO IT IS SAFE GOING THROUGH THERE AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THOSE PARKING LOTS.
THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON THE OKLAHOMA CITY SIDE EITHER.
AND WITH EDMOND TRYING TO BE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE PUT SOME CONSIDERATION INTO THAT.
UM, I WOULD ALSO ECHO THE CONCERN ABOUT THE USE OF RHODE ISLAND.
UM, I THINK THEY ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE ENTRANCES AND EXITS ON THAT, BUT THAT IS, AS SHE SAID, JUST BASICALLY IT'S A BLACKTOP AND THERE ARE NO CURBS.
SO, UM, THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION INTO HOW THAT'S GONNA BE MANAGED AND CONNECTED WITH THAT STREET.
SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, UM, THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO ITEMS AS THEY CONSIDER THE PROJECT.
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BE ABLE TO WALK TO A RESTAURANT FROM MY HOUSE.SO I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION FROM THAT.
BUT IN GENERAL, THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD EVENING.
UH, MICHAEL SCHNEIDER, 46 10 JORDAN AVENUE.
I LIVE, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, THE WESTERN OF THE TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH.
UM, BESIDES SOME OF THE CONCERNS MENTIONED AND THE SIDEWALKS, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF THE, UH, THE SIDEWALKS ARE BEING PUT IN IN FRONT OF THAT NEW DENTAL'S OFFICE, SO IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO, UH, JOINT NOSE.
BUT MY MAIN CONCERNS ARE, UH, LIGHTING, WHICH ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN MENTIONED.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY NO ONE REQUIRED THE DENTAL OFFICE TO DO THAT AND I NOW HAVE LIGHTS SHINING DIRECTLY INTO MY BACKYARD, UM, FROM THOSE, IT'S PRETTY ANNOYING.
UM, I, I RE I HAD REQUESTED LIKE A SLIGHTLY TALLER FENCE AND THAT WAS DENIED.
UM, SO THE REQUEST I HAVE IS THERE'S A LINE OF CEDAR TREES ALONG THE FENCE LINE.
THEY'RE WITHIN, SOME OF 'EM ARE ON MY LINE.
SOME OF 'EM ARE SLIGHTLY ON THE APPLICANT'S LINE, BUT YOU KNOW, ANY CEDAR TREE WITHIN 18 INCHES OF THE LINE.
IF WE COULD LEAVE THOSE, THAT WOULD REALLY CUT DOWN ON THE, THE IMPACT OF THIS AND, AND UM, HELP WITH THE, UH, WHAT WERE YOU, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING RIGHT THERE? YOU THE LAST COMMENT YOU WERE HOPING TO LEAVE WHAT CEDAR, THERE'S A LINE OF BIG CEDAR TREES.
THEY RIGHT ON THE LINE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A FOOT.
THEY KIND OF MOVE BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT, BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE FULLY ON MINE, SOME ARE RIGHT ON THE LINE, SOME ARE FULLY ON THE APPLICANT'S LINE, BUT ALL WITHIN A FOOT 18 INCHES OF THE LINE.
UM, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THAT DESIGN FOR SENSITIVE AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT.
SO TWO REQUESTS, THE CEDAR TREES AND TWO, ALL THE LIGHTS HAVE TO SHINE.
INBOARD, NOT OUTBOARD TOWARDS UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE MY REQUEST.
I DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT MY MOTHER LIVES AT 42 0 9 RANCH DRIVE AND MY EX-HUSBAND LIVES ACROSS THE STREET AT UH, 42 0 8 RANCH DRIVE.
AND MY MAIN CONCERN, UM, IS TRAFFIC.
I HAVE THREE TEENAGE DRIVERS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY MOM BUILT HER HOUSE THERE RIGHT AFTER I GOT LICENSED AND I HAD A HARD TIME AT THE TIME TURNING LEFT THERE OFF ROAD ISLAND WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THERE.
WE ALL KNOW HOW MEMORIAL ROAD IS AWFUL.
MY MOM CALLED AND SPOKE WITH MR. ALLEN AND HE INDICATED THE CITY HAD NO OBJECTIONS AS TO TRAFFIC, BUT WHEN SHE TALKED TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, APPARENTLY THERE HADN'T REALLY BEEN A STUDY OR ANYTHING, HADN'T EVEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT REPORT.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONCEPT.
I THINK YOU PROBABLY KNOW THERE'S A LIGHT THERE AT FOX HOLLOW DOESN'T REALLY ALIGN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHEN YOU HIT THAT FIVE O'CLOCK TRAFFIC TURNING OUT OF THERE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
AND I'M CONCERNED FOR MY ELDERLY MOTHER AND MY TEENAGE SONS AS THEY'RE DRIVING OUT OF THERE.
SO WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT SPECIAL CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO THE TRAFFIC, MAYBE A LIGHT THAT WORKS TOGETHER WITH THE ONE ON FOX HOLLOW.
I KNOW HALF OF THAT ROAD IS MEMORIAL IS OKLAHOMA CITY, SO IT'S HARD.
I, I DON'T KNOW THE LOGISTICS THERE, BUT REALLY OUR CONCERN IS TRAFFIC.
I LIVE AT 1616 GRAY FOX RUN IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
I'M ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MEMORIAL AND I, WE ANTICIPATE AND EXPECTED THAT THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE ZONED COMMERCIAL AT SOME TIME AND WE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
I'M SEEKING INFORMATION ON THE PART OF OUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION FOR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH IT AND IF YOU CAN GIVE ANY, THE APPLICANT CAN GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION ON THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.
SPECIFICALLY, WHAT, WHERE WILL THE RESTAURANT BE LOCATED? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST TRAFFIC ISSUE IS GOING TO BE THE COMING FLOW OF, UH, OF THE RESTAURANT, BUT ALSO, UH, EXTERIOR LIGHTING.
UH, BECAUSE ALONG MEMORIAL IN OUR ADDITION WE HAVE SEVERAL HOUSES THAT ARE TWO STORY AND ALTHOUGH THEY'RE A DISTANCE ACROSS MEMORIAL, THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE SUBJECT TO LIGHT AND UH, POLLUTION AS IT COMES.
SO IF THEY COULD ENLIGHTEN US A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT'S GONNA GO IN THE TWO BUILDINGS AND THE HEIGHT OF THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, I CAN TAKE IT BACK TO OUR HOA AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT SAVE YOU GUYS GETTING SOME QUESTIONS LATER ON.
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UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? SEEING NONE, WILL THE APPLICANT CARE TO STEP UP AND WE'LL HAMMER OUT SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK? I WILL REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS A ZONING AND NOT A SITE PLAN, SO KINDA THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RESTAURANT, UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE IT, WHICH WOULD BE SURPRISING IF YOU DO.UH, BUT A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS, THERE'LL STILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO COME BEFORE US WITH A SIDE PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
SO JUST WANNA LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT AS WELL.
UM, DO YOU HAVE THE QUESTIONS WRITTEN DOWN OR DO YOU NEED ME TO HELP YOU THERE? HELP ME OUT ON, OKAY, SO, UM, THE MAIN THINGS WE HEARD WERE, YOU KNOW, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, TALK ABOUT THE DENSITY OF CONFIRM THE DENSITY OF THE, OF THE, UH, DUPLEX.
I THINK YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10 UNITS, WHICH WOULD MEAN TOTAL OF FIVE DUPLEXES IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, WHICH YOUR PUD IS CALLING FOR.
UM, I DO THINK, UH, OR I MEAN, I'M SORRY, SIDEWALKS WAS A QUESTION AND LIGHTING, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, LET'S START WITH THOSE, UH, TRAFFIC O OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN.
UH, WE WORKED WITH STAFF, LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST ROUND THAT WE WENT THROUGH OF COMMENTS, WE HAD TWO ENTRANCES ONTO MEMORIAL AND TWO ONTO RHODE ISLAND.
PRETTY MUCH WAS TOLD, NO, THAT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
SO WE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER WITH, UH, REQUESTING A VARIANCE.
UH, THE RE THE, I THINK MAYBE IN THE FIRST ROUND, UH, THEY ALSO COMMENTED THAT THE ENTRANCE NEEDED TO BE AT LEAST 325 FEET FROM THE WEST EDGE OF RHODE ISLAND ROAD.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE REALIGNED IT.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE TWO SIMILAR BUILDINGS OF THE SAME SIZE OR JUST MIRROR EACH OTHER AND A DRIVE BETWEEN THEM.
UH, THAT'S WHY THE TWO BUILDINGS NOW WE HAVE A LARGER ONE ON THE EAST SIDE AND A, UH, SMALLER BUILDING ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE.
UH, THERE WE WERE NEVER ASKED TO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
UM, IT OBVIOUSLY I I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS MEMORIAL ROAD IS HEAVILY TRAVELED.
UM, OKAY, I I, I CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS.
UM, I MEAN WE COULD MAKE, WE'RE ASKING ON, ON MEMORIAL ROAD FOR THREE LANES, TWO, UH, ONE AND TWO OUT A 35 FOOT WIDTH.
UH, THE OTHER ONE ON RHODE ISLAND IS A 24 FOOT, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S ALWAYS RIGHT TURN, UM, RIGHT TURN IN, RIGHT TURN OUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR THIS SITUATION JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE ANYBODY COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO EITHER OUT ONTO RHODE ISLAND AND MAKE A U-TURN OR IGNORE THE RIGHT TURN ONLY.
SO, UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO, TO MEET WITH ENGINEERING OR TRAFFIC TO, TO WORK OUT ANY OTHER, UH, CONCERNS.
UM, SIDEWALK, UH, THERE IS NOT A SIDEWALK ALONG MEMORIAL ROAD.
UH, WE DON'T, I DON'T LIVE IN EDMOND.
I, UH, SAM SMAR, HIS OFFICE IS JUST, UH, TWO BUILDINGS DOWN TO THE EAST.
AND, AND HE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE OF GETTING OUT OF HIS PARKING LOT.
UH, ALSO, SO, UM, LET'S SEE, LIGHTING.
UH, THE REASON WE PUT THE DUPLEXES AND WE ONLY ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR DUPLEXES RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ROOM FOR A FIFTH.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO USE, THOSE ARE TWO STORY TO BLOCK ANY LIGHTING OFF THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
IF, IF THERE'S, IF IT DOES HAVE, UH, EMPLOYEE ENTRANCES ON THE BACK OR, OR, UH, STOCK, YOU KNOW, FOR DELIVERIES AND SO FORTH ON THE BACK, IT PROBABLY WILL JUST HAVE, UH, WALL PACK UNITS SHINING DOWN THE LIGHT OF THE, THE IMMEDIATE PARKING IN FRONT OF, OR IN THE BACK OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
UH, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS, I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS ORDINANCES ON WHAT OUR, OUR LIGHTING CAN BE.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME ISLANDS OUT THERE, BUT THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY TO HAVE LOW LEVEL LIGHTING ON THE FRONT OF THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE RETAIL.
SO, UM, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT DENSITY.
I, WELL I WAS GONNA MIX THE LIGHTING, WHAT I WAS READING HERE.
IT JUST SAYS NO WALL MOUNTED OR POLE SITE LIGHTING EXCEPT FOR PATIO BALCONY WALL AND OR CEILING MOUNTED LIGHTS WILL BE ALLOWED ON THE NORTH SIDES OF THE TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS.
SO YEAH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SPILL OUR LIGHT OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
AND SPEAKING OF THE TALLER FENCE, YOU ARE, YOU'RE DOING AN, YOU ARE DOING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE? CORRECT.
UM, UH, WOULD BE MINDFUL WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE TREES TO THE, TO THE NORTH, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR, YOUR LANDSCAPE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT I CAME UP WITH.
FEEL FREE TO ADD ANY COLOR IF YOU'D LIKE TO AT THE MOMENT.
WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO SIDEWALKS?
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UH, I, I USUALLY LIKE SIDEWALKS AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO PROVIDE WALK SPACE.IS THAT IN THE LONG RANGE PLAN FOR SOMEDAY MEMORIAL TO HAVE SIDEWALKS? UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE UH, WE WOULD PROJECT THAT THERE WOULD BE SIDEWALKS ON ALL THE ARTERIALS.
UM, THAT'S PART OF OUR A DA TRANSITION PLAN AND THE MOBILITY PLAN.
UM, ON THIS CASE SPECIFICALLY, IT SAYS NO SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS PUD, BUT WHEN THEY COME TO SIDE PLAN AND PLATTING, OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT SIDEWALKS GO ADJACENT TO PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY.
SO IF IT SAYS NO SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT EXCUSING THEMSELVES OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIDEWALKS.
THEY'RE JUST NOT SHOWING IT IN THE, IN THE PUDI HAD THE SAME COMMENTS.
I MEAN, SIDEWALKS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT, SO, PARDON ME, SIDEWALKS, SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT.
I THINK, I THINK I, I HATE TO POINT MY, UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY TO SIDEWALKS TO THE, TO THE RETAIL.
I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, SO I GUESS WE WILL BE WORKING WITH SOME SIDEWALK AT LEAST GETTING TO THE BUILDING.
SO YEAH, AND THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON THE NEW, UH, THE NEW OFFICE BEING CONSTRUCTED TO THE WEST, I MEAN TO THE EAST.
I JUST LOOKED AT THE AERIAL PHOTO AS WELL, SO, OKAY.
I MEAN I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA WHEN YOU COME BACK TO SITE PLAN, I GUESS.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU, UH, THE COUNCIL OR I'M SORRY, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE OF THE APPLICANT? UH, NOT GENERALLY OF THE APPLICANT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, THE LIGHTING ON THE ADJACENT BUILDING MM-HMM
COULD WE GET SOMEBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF IT'S MEETING CODE, UH, SHINING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE ADJACENT BUILDING? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE YES.
THE, YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, REQUIREMENTS ABOUT MINIMIZING SPILLOVER LIGHTS.
SO THOSE, IF IF IN FACT THAT WASN'T, THERE'S LIGHTS SPILLING OVER, THAT IS A POTENTIAL, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF A CODE VIOLATION.
SO HE SHOULD PROBABLY CALL THE CITY AND JUST HAVE HIM, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HEARD THAT SIR.
JUST YOU NEED TO CALL THE CITY ABOUT THE LIGHT JUST SO THEY CAN CONFIRM THAT IT MEETS THE ORDINANCE.
THAT THEY WERE APPROVED UNDER CODE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED AS WELL AND SO WE'LL MOVE TO A MOTION AND A SECOND I'LL MOVE FOR A VOTE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO NOTHING.
THIS DOES IS APPROVED THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON UH, OCTOBER 27TH, 2025.
ALRIGHT, WHERE'S MY AGENDA? OKAY, MOVING ON TO UH, AGENDA ITEM
[D. Case No. VA25-00011; Public Hearing and Consideration of a Request to allow an extra sign panel on the existing University Plaza ground sign, located on the south side of East 2nd Street, west of Bryant Avenue. (Jack Chamberlain, Ward 1) ]
FOUR D, CASE NUMBER VA TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 1 1.PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A REQUEST TO ALLOW AN EXTRA SIGN PANEL ON THE EXISTING UNIVERSITY PLAZA GROUND SIGN.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR VARIANCE TO THE SIGN CODE TO ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL PANEL ON THE EXISTING TENANT PANEL SIGN FOR THE UNIVERSITY PLAZA.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST SECOND STREET, WEST OF BRYANT AVENUE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE ON THIS MAP.
THE SIGN CODE ALLOWS SIGNS TO BE 75 SQUARE FEET PER SIDE.
THE ADDITIONAL PANEL WOULD BRING THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS SIGN FROM ITS CURRENT AREA OF 72 SQUARE FEET TO 99 SQUARE FEET.
THOSE ARE ALL THE PERTINENT FACTS.
DO YOU WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF MR. BRYANT? NO.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF OF THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE.
UM, FINAL COMMENTS, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.
THAT ONE IS APPROVED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON 10 27 20 25.
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AGENDA.THIS IS THE TIME FOR ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENT.
THIS IS ANYBODY, ANY CITIZENS WISH TO SPEAK ON PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED TOPICS, BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
SEEING NONE, NO MORE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[6. Comments from the Planning Commission Chair and Members.]
OR THE CHAIR WISH TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? CITY STAFF HAS A COMMENT.I JUST WANT TO REMIND COMMISSIONERS OF THE UPCOMING JOINT WORKSHOP ON THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OCTOBER 27, 3:00 PM THESE CHAMBERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BRIAN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? NOPE.
LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING MOTION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND AND A SECOND.
ALL RIGHT NOW VOTE THREE TO ZERO.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS ADJOURNED.