* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] WELCOME TO THE, [1. Call to Order.] UH, NOVEMBER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND GET STARTED. SO, OUR, UH, FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS [2. Consideration of Approval Items:] IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR OCTOBER MEETING, OCTOBER 21ST, 2025. I MAY JUST A MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD, . SO IN A SECOND, I'LL SECOND. OKAY. OH, BEFORE WE DO, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. SO, I NOTICED ON THE ADJOURNMENT, THIS ISN'T A BIG DEAL, BUT IT JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME THAT, UH, RANDY MOTION FOR IT, BUT THEN VOTED NO. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. YEAH. AND SANDY, THANK YOU FOR SENDING OUT THOSE, UH, EDITED MINUTES THAT, THAT HAD THOSE CORRECT ACCOUNTS ON THERE. SO I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. CAST YOUR VOTES WITH THE REMOTES, PLEASE. AND THAT PASSES. THANK YOU. DID IT COME UP THERE, CODY? NO. NO. DID YOU GET, DID YOU RECORD CODY'S VOTE ON THERE OR DID IT COME IN BEFORE? OKAY. I WASN'T SHOWING THEM ON THE SCREEN. IT WASN'T, DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE SCREEN, BUT HANG ON. PLEASE DO THAT AGAIN. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTES AGAIN. HANG ON JUST A SEC. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER ON THE BACK SIDE? EIGHT. WE'LL COUNT IT. YOU COUNT IT? OKAY. YEAH. SO YOU ASSURES ME SHE'S COUNTING YOUR VOTE. OKAY. , I DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT I VOTED FOR. YEAH. YEAH. , HOW ARE YOU VOTING, MR. MOLEY? YES, . THANK YOU. UH, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, TWO B, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POTENTIAL UPDATE TO THE 2000 CIP BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR REQUIRED GRANT MATCH FOR THE DOWNTOWN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE FEASIBILITY STUDY. UM, BEFORE WE OPEN THIS ONE UP, I'VE HAD A, A REQUEST TO TABLE THIS AND OUR SECOND, UH, VOTING ITEM ON THE VISTA LINE KICKING BIRD CONNECTOR, UM, DUE TO, THERE'S A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS WHO AREN'T HERE, AND, UM, WE DO EXPECT SOME, SOME DISCUSSION AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS ONE. SO, UM, CHRISTY, IF YOU DON'T MIND KIND OF WALKING US THROUGH THE, THE GRANT TIMING ON THIS AND IF THERE'S ANY DEADLINES WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. SURE. UH, CHRISTY BATTERSON. UM, SO WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE AGREEMENTS YET FROM ODOT. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT. WE PREDICT THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN PROBABLY IN THE JANUARY TIMEFRAME. SO WE'RE STILL OKAY. AND ONCE WE DO THAT, THAT STARTS OUR CLOCK. UM, SO WE CAN POSTPONE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION. UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ASSIGNED IT AT A NUMBER YET, SO. OKAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTION. SO FROM A YEAH, I JUST, I DIDN'T WANT US TO GET, IF WE, IF, IF WE DO DECIDE TO, TO TABLE IT AND DISCUSS IT LATER THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ANY NO, BECAUSE ONCE WE, ANY CHANCE TO DO THAT OR HAVE TO GET CORRECT. 'CAUSE ONCE WE GET THE AGREEMENTS, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THE AGREEMENTS TO COUNCIL. SO, OKAY. SO BOARD, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH, WITH THIS ONE? SO I MOVE THAT WE DO, UM, TABLE THIS ONE AND HAVE DISCUSSION AT A LATER TIME. OKAY. I SECOND HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. AND, AND BY THE WAY, I'M MAKING THAT MOTION ON ITEM B AND C IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU. I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY. DO WE? OKAY. YEAH, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR, FOR STAFF. I, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF IF THAT IS POTENTIALLY THE JANUARY MEETING MM-HMM . THE DECEMBER MEETING, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO HAVE IT BACK ON THE AGENDA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOTION WOULD NEEDS TO BE AMENDED FOR THAT. OKAY. WELL, I, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO WAIT AND DO THIS IN JANUARY IF WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT PEOPLE, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT THIS AT RISK, BECAUSE I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL MISS DECEMBER MEETING BECAUSE OF HOLIDAYS AND THINGS. SO I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, HAVE THIS ONE POSTPONED UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING. I WOULD AGREE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY AMENDED MOTION. THERE YOU GO. . I AGREE WITH THAT. I SECOND THAT. YEAH. DECEMBER MEETINGS CAN BE, CAN BE TOUCHY TO REACH QUORUM AND HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. SO SURE. I'M OKAY IF WE, IF WE DO JANUARY, SO WE'LL TAKE THAT MOTION AND A SECOND FROM ROB. I, IS THERE [00:05:02] PRECEDENT OF US DOING THAT? I DON'T RECALL HAVING, WHEN WE HAVE QUORUM NOT VOTING ON SOMETHING BECAUSE OF ABSENT MEMBERS. SURE. I, I'M LOOKING AT KIND OF ANDY ON THAT. I DON'T, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M TOTALLY GREAT WITH IT. I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THAT FROM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. I WILL SAY IT IS UNIQUE, BUT, UM, UH, I WILL SAY JUST IN ALL THE COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT I'VE ATTENDED IN MY 11 YEARS OF WORKING HERE, IT DOES OCCUR AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. OKAY. OCCASIONALLY. AND SO, UH, TRADITIONALLY IF THE BOARD WISHES TO TAKE THAT ACTION OR IF THERE'S AN APPLICANT, IF IT'S A ZONING ITEM, ASK FOR SOMETHING TO BE, UH, MOVED TO A FUTURE MEETING, THEN THAT REQUEST IS, IS CONSIDERED. OKAY. GREAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? YES. YES. UM, MY QUESTION IS, IF THERE'S DISCUSSION OR ITEMS THAT ARE, PEOPLE HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND NEED CLARIFICATION, DOES CHRISTIE KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE SO THAT SHE CAN ADDRESS THOSE POSSIBLY PRIOR TO OUR MEETING? YEAH. YEAH. I, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE, UM, OUTSIDE THAT TO BRING IT FORWARD. ANDY ASKED ME TO BRING HIM BACK FORWARD THROUGH FOR DISCUSSION. SO I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION TO ANYBODY THAT HAS CONCERNS OR HAS QUESTIONS REGARDING EITHER PROJECT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SPECIFIC, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY WAS, WAS TO WALK THROUGH THAT CONSIDERATION AND, AND WHAT, UH, WHAT THE PROJECT WAS AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ON TWO B. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL TABLE THIS UNTIL THE JANUARY, 2026 MEETING. AND THEN ITEM TWO C IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A POTENTIAL UPDATE TO THE 2000 CIP BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REQUIRED GRANT MATCH FOR THE VISTA LANE KICKING BIRD CONNECTOR TRAIL. AND AGAIN, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, POSTPONE THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING SO THAT THE ITEM B AND C CAN BE DISCUSSED AT THE SAME TIME. I SECOND THAT, BUT MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? YEAH, I HELP ME UNDERSTAND JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MAYBE THE HESITANCE OR THE DESIRE TO PUSH IT BACK. I UNDERSTAND THE BRIDGE ONE HAS KIND OF BEEN A, A TOPIC THAT WE WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH FOR, BUT THIS ONE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN PRETTY BROADLY, UH, ACCEPTED. AND SO JUST CURIOUS FOR MORE, UH, ON, ON WHY THIS ONE AS WELL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SORRY. SURE. UM, JUST HAVING DISCUSSED IT WITH SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHY WE WOULD SAY YES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. OKAY. SURE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS? I'D HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION AND VOTE UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING BOARD MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. I ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION DOES PASS AS WELL. SO WE'LL PICK THIS ONE BACK UP IN JANUARY. [A. Discussion of possible creation of a Strategic Plan for projects to be funded by the 2000 CIP & the 2017 CIP Funds.] NEXT, ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, A DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE CREATION OF A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED BY THE 2000 CIP AND 2017 CIP FUNDS. UM, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM I WANTED TO, UM, DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD ON KIND OF OUR, OUR STRATEGIC LOOK AT, AT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT IT MEANS, UM, PARTICULARLY AS WE LOOK AT, UH, A COUPLE HOURS FROM NOW WHEN, WHEN POLLS CLOSE. AND WE COULD SEE, UH, IF WE HAVE A CONTINUING, UH, ITEM ON THE, THE 2017 TAX TO CONTINUE TO, TO PLAN THESE. UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ITEMS ON, ON OTHER COMMITTEES AND BOARDS AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE TOTAL CAPITAL PROGRAM AND, AND BUDGETS AND THINGS AT THE CITY. SO, UM, ANDY OR STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS AROUND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND BUDGETS AND STRATEGIC PLANS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS? YES. MAYBE JUST TO, TO, TO JUST SORT OF FRAME THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, [00:10:01] SO DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF TODAY'S ELECTION, THEN IT WAS STAFF'S INTENTION TO WORK WITH THIS BOARD WHO WILL BE THE RECOMMENDING BODY FOR THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS FAR AS PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED WITH THE TAX IF IT IS RENEWED. SO AGAIN, UM, IF IT IS RENEWED, THE 2017 WILL BE ONLY DEDICATED TO STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND ROAD REPAIRS. AND SO THAT TAX WOULD NOT START TO TAKE EFFECT UNTIL APRIL 1ST, 2027. SO THERE WOULD BE A DECENT RUNWAY OF TIME TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS GROUP TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TO PRIORITIZE AND WHY. AND SO, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT'S GONE OUT WITH PROPOSITION TWO THAT'S ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, I'LL JUST PULL THAT UP, TALKS ABOUT HOW THE PROJECTS WILL BE INFORMED. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE, I JUST GOT THE CITY'S WEBSITE UP. YOU CAN SEE IT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SCREENS TOO, UH, CITIZEN, HOW IT'S GONNA BE INFORMED, UH, THROUGH CITIZEN FEEDBACK, THROUGH THE WHAT ROAD QUALITY CONDITIONS DETERMINED THROUGH THE 2025 CITYWIDE PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT AND TRACKED THROUGH THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND THEN USING CURRENT HISTORICAL DATA FOR FUTURE PROJECTION TO TRAFFIC COUNTS, ACCIDENT FREQUENCY, PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES, STORM WATER DRAINAGE IMPACTS, AND UNDERNEATH THESE ARE BULLETS OF THE THINGS WILL HELP, THAT WILL HELP INFORM THESE THINGS. AND THEN AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES TO REDUCE THE CITY'S COST BURDEN, SUCH AS FEDERAL MASTERING PROGRAMS OR GRANTS. SO IT'S STAFF'S INTENTION, UM, BASED UPON THE RESULTS OF TONIGHT, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, UM, IF THIS WERE TO NOT BE RENEWED. BUT IF IT IS RENEWED, THEN IT'S THAT THAT CONVERSATION WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BOARD AS FAR AS, UH, FUNDING PRIORITIES WHEN LOOKING OVER REALLY THE 10 YEAR HORIZON OF THAT TAX. AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH, I GUESS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, WOULD THEN BE THE EXISTING 2000 CIP SALES TAX. AND THEN WHAT WOULD THOSE FUNDING PRIORITIES BE THAT THIS GROUP WOULD ALSO ACT AS A RECOMMENDING BODY? 'CAUSE IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY FOR THE 2000 ABOUT THINGS TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THAT. SO THAT, DOES THAT HELP KIND OF SET THE TABLE A LITTLE BIT? AND SO THAT WAS STAFF'S INTENTION IS OVER THE NEXT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF JANUARY BEGINNING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH THIS GROUP TO HELP DETERMINE WHAT PROJECTS THOSE SHOULD BE. YEAH. SO, AND WHEN, SO YEAH, THANKS ANDY. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE VOTE ON ITEMS AS THEY COME FORWARD AND THEN, AND ONCE A YEAR WE TYPICALLY DO A FULL REVIEW AND LOOK AT A FIVE YEAR BUDGET AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. AND SO THIS MAYBE WOULD INCLUDE THAT FIVE YEARS, BUT BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT FARTHER OUT SINCE THE TAX IS A 10 YEAR TAX. UM, AND WE DO WANNA LOOK AT WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE. UM, IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION IF THE, UH, IF THE VOTE GOES NO TONIGHT, AND WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO REALLY BE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHAT WE FUND AND DON'T FUND, THAT'LL BE A, A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT YEAH, AND I THINK, UM, WE'VE HIT A POINT HERE IN EDMOND WHERE MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW FUNDING WORKS. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DEBT THAT WE HAVE ON THE FUNDING THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN. UM, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH, HOW LITTLE MONEY WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO USE TO ACTUALLY DO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON HOW MUCH WE TAKE IN VERSUS HOW MUCH DEBT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, FUNDS CAN BE MOVED AROUND. UH, AND SO I THINK WE NEED SOME TRANSPARENCY TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THIS FUNDING REALLY IS, HOW MUCH OF IT IS ALREADY ENCUMBERED AND FOR HOW LONG, WHICH LEAVES US HOW MUCH MONEY WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THESE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. UM, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IN EDMOND HAS BECOME UNTENABLE, UH, FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH EDMOND OR CROSSTOWN, UH, IT'S GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHERE ALL YOU DO IS THINK ABOUT HOW DO I, HOW DO I DIVERT, HOW DO I DIVERT, HOW DO I DIVERT? AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY VERY UNHAPPY WITH IT, INCLUDING MYSELF. UH, SO I FEEL LIKE NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO GIVE A STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE NEED TO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE REALLY HAVE TO PLAY WITH . THAT'S A BAD WORD TO USE TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY VERSUS HOW MUCH ENCUMBERED DEBT WE HAVE, EITHER IF THIS THING PASSES OR IF IT DOES NOT. SO I THINK IT'S A TWO PART, IT'S NOT JUST A STRATEGIC PLAN, IT'S A, HEY, HERE'S THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE OR DON'T HAVE, AND HERE'S WHY WE PRIORITIZE THE THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE WHAT'S GONNA IMPACT 99% OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT WHAT'S GONNA IMPACT TWO OR 3%. AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS PARK STUFF AND WALKING TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE GREAT, THEY'RE NICE WHEN YOU'VE GOT ALL THE MONEY, BUT THEY DON'T IMPACT A HUGE AMOUNT OF LIFESTYLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN EDMOND. AND SO PRIORITY WISE, WE'VE GOTTA SHIFT BACK TO GETTING THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF HOMES BEING BUILT, WE'VE GOTTA TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS. I MEAN, THE DISCUSSION [00:15:01] THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT EAST OF I 35, IF THEY BUILT THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY KILL EAST EDMOND ON SECOND 33RD IF THEY DON'T GET THE, UH, EXTENSION TO THE TURNPIKE DONE. SO IT'S, THIS IS THIS, WE'VE KIND OF COME TO A CROSSROADS AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTA LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE DEALING WITH AND HOW IT'S FUNDED AND HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH DEBT WE OWE TO, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. SO I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE, I I'M ALL FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN. I, I THINK, AND THEN WE STICK TO THE PLAN. I MEAN, I'M ALL, I'M ALL FOR THAT. BUT I DO THINK IN ADDITION TO WHAT ROB'S SAYING, MAYBE WHILE WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS STRATEGIC PLAN, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THE CHIEF FINANCE OFFICER OF THE CITY COME IN AND TALK TO US AS WELL SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE FINANCES TO KNOW HOW WE CAN BETTER PLAN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I, I, I LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. OKAY. I'M, BUT I'M ALL FOR, I'M ALL FOR PLANNING AND I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL. I'M ALSO CURIOUS AS TO WHEN THE COUNCIL WILL CONVENE TO UPDATE THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT'S DECEMBER, DECEMBER 3RD IS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN SET FOR, UH, DECEMBER 2ND. OKAY. AND DECEMBER 3RD. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE WE'LL WANT TO BE ALIGNED. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. YEAH. AND WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN AT THE CITY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE I 35, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT IT'S THE PLAN THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN ABOUT HOW I 30 FIVE'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED SO WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE PLAN IN THE CITY OF EDMOND THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE 2050 YES. PLAN? YES. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM, SO I'LL I'LL VIEWPOINT ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, TO CHIME IN HERE. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. UM, FOCUS ON PRIORITIZATION. UH, ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS A FEW MINUTES LATE WAS BECAUSE I WAS DOING EXACTLY WHAT ROB SAID, DARTING IN AND OUT AND AROUND. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HERE. I SAT FOR A FEW MINUTES BEHIND FLASHING LIGHTS BEFORE I REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. BUT YEAH, YOU NEED TO PRIORITIZE GETTING FROM POINT A TO POINT B IN THIS COMMUNITY. WELL, AND IT SEEMS THAT ONE WAY THAT COULD HELP THAT IS, UH, THIS IS GONNA OPEN UP STUFF MAYBE, BUT LESS POCKET NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ONLY HAVE ONE WAY IN AND OUT THAT FORCES EVERYBODY TO THE ARTERIAL STREETS. WHERE I GREW UP IN NEAR DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY, YOU COULD TAKE 19TH STREET FROM CLASSEN ALL THE WAY TO MERIDIAN. YOU COULD TAKE 18TH FROM CLASS, LIKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT AROUND THE CLARAN AREA AND, AND SOME OF THE PARKS AND EVEN HERE. BUT THE FURTHER WE GET AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ONE OR TWO STREETS AND IT JUST CREATES A, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON THE ARTERIAL ROADS WHERE THERE'S NOT OTHER WAYS TO GO. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME ZONING THAT COULD GO INTO THAT AS WELL. MM-HMM . NOT JUST STREETS FOR ME, I THINK, UH, IT WAS LAST MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AGO, BUT SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY BROUGHT THE IDEA OF A KIND OF A, A LONGER, UH, PLANNING SESSION OR REVIEW SESSION. WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED ON TIME IN THIS, IN THIS TIME BLOCK. UM, SO, AND YOUR STAFF, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT'S FEASIBLE. UM, IF, IF WE DID INTEND TO, TO SCHEDULE THREE TO, TO FOUR HOURS. YEAH. UH, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR THIS BOARD, I, I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE FEASIBLE. UM, WE CAN BRING FORWARD SOME, IF THERE IS, UM, A DESIRE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD BRING FORWARD SOME IDEAS. I MEAN, UH, YEAH. 'CAUSE SURE. WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THERE COULD BE REALLY GOOD MOMENTUM IN THIS HOUR TO HOUR AND A HALF THAT, THAT THE BOARD HAS, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU DON'T SEE EACH OTHER AGAIN FOR ANOTHER MONTH. AND SO WOULD THERE BE A BETTER USE OF TIME IF IT COULD BE JUST A, A LONGER BLOCK OF TIME TO KIND OF REALLY DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE? SO YEAH. ALL ALL THINGS THAT, THAT COULD DEFINITELY HAPPEN. AND I THINK TOO, UM, YOU MENTIONED HEARING FROM FROM FINANCE AND, AND OTHERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MOBILITY COMMISSION AND, AND OTHER BOARDS THAT, THAT MIGHT HAVE INPUT INTO SOME OF THESE STRATEGIC PLANS, I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE THERE OR, OR SUBMIT THINGS AS WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. SO, UM, I KNOW THIS ISN'T A, A VOTING ITEM, BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT. UM, SO [00:20:01] CAN WE ASK STAFF TO, TO WORK ON THOSE OPTIONS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SORRY, IT'S A LITTLE TOO FLIPPANT AND CASUAL. YES, WE WILL DO THAT. . THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, I REMEMBER THREE, SORRY, MR. CHAIR. AND, AND, AND BASED ON THAT TOO, UM, STAFF'S INTENTION WOULD BE WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH DECEMBER, POSSIBILITY OF, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A BUSY SEASON, WOULD REALLY BE, WOULD BE A CONVERSATION IN JANUARY TO START LAYING OUT IDEAS AND, AND THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS AND HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO GO ABOUT IT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME AFTER COUNCIL HAS THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP AS WELL TO YEAH. TO KIND OF TAKE IN WHAT, WHAT THEIR PLAN IS GOING FORWARD IN THE, YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE [B. Monthly Sales and Use Tax Report.] ON TO ITEM THREE B, OUR MONTHLY SALES AND USE TAX REPORT. YES. SO, UH, POSITIVE NEWS TO SHARE. SO FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE FEBRUARY, WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT COMBINED SALES AND USE, THE NUMBERS ARE UP WHEN COMPARED TO THE SAME MONTH LAST YEAR. SO POSITIVE NEWS TO SHARE AGAIN, UH, ON YOUR SCREEN. RED, BAD, BLUE. GOOD. SO, UM, BLUE. GOOD. SO WE WILL, UM, JUST SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. SO VERY POSITIVE NEWS TO SHARE FROM THE NOVEMBER CHECK THAT THE CITY RECEIVED FROM THE TAX COMMISSION. THANKS SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THIS REPORT? HOW, HOW GRANULAR DOES THAT GET? I MEAN, DOES IT, SO THE INFORMATION THAT THE CITY GETS, UH, GETS VERY GRANULAR TO THE RETAILER. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE WEREN'T ABLE TO SHARE. YEAH. UM, THAT LEVEL OF, UH, THAT, THAT GRANULAR, WE, WE DO GET IT PROVIDED BY WHAT'S CALLED N CODES MM-HMM . NORTH AMERICAN, UH, AN ACRONYM I'M GONNA BUTCHER, BUT WE CAN SEE IT BROKEN INTO RETAIL AND GROCERY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS. ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, WHAT, WHAT PAST PRACTICE HAS BEEN IS STAFF HAS, UH, PROVIDED REPORTS. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. WE FEEL LIKE MONTH BY MONTH THERE'S SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN THERE, BUT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS WE PROVIDE THAT BASED UPON THE TOP 10, UM, SALES TAX GENERATORS FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND. OKAY. YEAH. THANKS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CITIZEN'S [4. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board on Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. All remarks must be directed to the Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with Section I of the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and upon request at the City Clerk's Office. Please note that members of the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.] COMMENTS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO, UH, ADDRESS THE CIP UH, ADVISORY BOARD ON THESE PRODUCTS OR ON THESE PROJECTS AND RELATED MANNER MANNERS. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK? HI TAYLOR. THANK YOU. I'LL KEEP IT. WITHIN THREE MINUTES YOU CAN GO TO E EDMOND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEY CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL EVERY MONTH THAT SHOWS YOU THAT DATE IF YOU WANNA WATCH IT MONTHLY VERSUS QUARTERLY. THANKS. SO THEY JUST AUTOMATICALLY SEND THAT OUT. UM, NO, YOU DI DIDN'T TAKE IT UP ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT ON THE TRAIN OR THE BRIDGE OVER, I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE THE CONSEQUENCES OF GOING DOWN THAT PATH. RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE FIVE, SEVEN, $10 MILLION TO PUT A BRIDGE OVER IF YOU CONCEPTUALLY DON'T THINK YOU WANNA SPEND THAT MONEY. DO YOU DO THAT STUDY OR NOT ON THE ROADS? YOU'RE ACTUALLY, I MEAN, ON THE TRAILS YOU'RE GETTING A TRAIL. MY ONLY COMMENT ON THAT ONE I WOULD BE IN FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD SEE HOW YOU COULD TIE IT IN TO UNCOMMON GROUND 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE. HOW DOES IT TIE IN BACK TO YOUR MACRO MATH EQUATION? MAKE SURE WHEN YOU DO YOUR DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU INCLUDE MAINTENANCE COSTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF ASSETS IN THE CITY. THERE'S MAINTENANCE COST TO HOLD THOSE ASSETS THAT REQUIRE CAPITAL. AND SO YOU DO HAVE LESS THAN WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK YOU HAVE RELATIVE TO WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THE CITY. SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MATH EQUATION. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YOU, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT. I, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT WE, JUST THE GUESSTIMATE FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT THE BRIDGE OVER A SECOND WOULD COST AS A WAY TO KIND OF, IT GIVES SOME INSIGHT INTO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT COULD BE FIVE, IT COULD BE 10. THAT THOSE, THAT ONE OF THOSE IS TWICE THE AMOUNT THE OTHER WAY . SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT RECEIVED. YEAH. GREAT. YEAH. THANKS ANDY. THANKS FOR THAT. OTHER CITIZENS. ALL [5. Comments from the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board Chair and Members.] RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, COMMENTS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE MEMBERS FIRST. UH, OKAY, SO I GOTTA TALK AGAIN. UH, I WAS DRIVING WITH MY SON ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO AND HE'S LIKE, DAD, DID YOU SEE THOSE SIGNS? HE NOTICED THE, THE GETTING AROUND TOWN SIGNS. HE JUST THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GREAT. AND I SAID, WELL, THE NEXT TIME I HAVE A MEETING, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT I TELL EVERYBODY. AND THAT THE STAFF KNOWS THAT YOU REALLY LIKE THE SIGNS AND THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE [00:25:01] 11, IT'S HELPING YOU NAVIGATE OUR CITY. SO GOOD JOB ON THEM. VERY NICE. I WAS HAVING A GOOD, GOOD IMPROVEMENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M JUST GONNA ADD TO THAT I WAS AT THE UCO, UH, ONE OF THE TRUST THE FOUNDATION BOARDS AND THE TOPIC OF THE NEW SIGNS CAME UP AND HOW APPRECIATIVE THEY WERE FOR UCO BEING ABLE TO BE PRONOUNCED ON MANY SIGNS. SO KEVIN, I'M SURE YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, THAT THAT EXACT COMMENT WAS MADE THIS MORNING IN THE PRESIDENT'S CABINET MEETING. THE ABILITY NOW TO SORT OF NAVIGATE YOUR WAY TO UCO FROM ANY SIDE OF TOWN IS, UH, GREATLY APPRECIATED. OKAY, WELL, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS FROM ME. UM, I FAILED TO, TO WELCOME DAN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU, UH, ON THE BOARD AS YOUR FIRST, YOUR FIRST MEETING HERE, HOPEFULLY TO MANY MORE. SO, UH OH YEAH, I SHOULD, YOU'RE HERE TO REPRESENT EDMUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS. UM, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW KEVIN, SITTING NEXT TO HIM IS OUR REPRESENTATION FROM UCO. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THESE STRATEGIC PLANS THAT WE TALK ABOUT TOO. UM, WE WANT TO, WE WANT YOUR INPUT AS WELL, UH, AS YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHTS INTO THE FUTURE OF WHERE YOU GUYS ARE GOING AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. SO, UM, APPRECIATE THE INPUT FOR SURE. UM, AND I SEE LOTS OF VOTED STICKERS IN THE ROOM, SO, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT. IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, YOU HAVEN'T VOTED YET, YOU GOT A COUPLE HOURS LEFT TO, UH, TO MAKE IT TO THE POLL. SO PLEASE DO THAT. AND, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UH, TO LOOK AT THESE ITEMS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE, UM, USING THOSE DOLLARS WISELY. SO, ANYTHING ELSE? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I MOTION SECOND. WE GOT IT. THAT WAS QUICK. THIS IS A RECORD. ALL RIGHT. THAT MIGHT BE CLOSE TO A RECORD. SAY WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. IS IT EVEN FOUR O'CLOCK YET? NO, JUST ALMOST YOU, YOU'RE OKAY NOW, HUH? I CAN 3 58 AND 50 SECONDS. YEAH. . GOOD FOR YOU. PATRICE, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? OH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.