[1. Call to Order of the Edmond Planning Commission.]
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[2. Consideration of Approval of Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes: December 02, 2025.]
TWO IS THE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 2ND, 2025.LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND OR ANY CHANGES? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
AND THAT MOTION IS APPROVED ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
[A. Case No. SP25-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for Astoria Executive Park, located on the south side of Willowood Road, east of Coltrane Road. (Marsal Developments, LLC; Ward 2)]
NUMBER THREE.THIS IS A PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THREE A.
MR. BRIAN, WE PRESENT, OH, I'M SORRY.
THE UH, THREE A IS CASE NUMBER SP 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 1 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE ASTORIA EXECUTIVE PARK.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY 1.2 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILLOW WOOD, A LITTLE BIT EAST OF COLTRANE.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 6,200 SQUARE FEET.
ONE POINT OF ACCESS IS PROPOSED A FULL ACCESS STRIVE ON WILLOW WOOD.
THE ELEVATIONS SHOWED THAT THE BUILDING TO BE 30 FEET TALL AT ITS HIGHEST POINT AND THE FACADE WILL CONSIST OF BRICK AND STONE WITH WOOD ACCENTS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME? I SEEING NONE.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO, UM, ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? YES, SIR.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME, SEEING NONE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PLEASE ADDRESS 'EM TO THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
ANYBODY HAVE A WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPERTY? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
WE'RE NOW LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND, SECOND, AND A SECOND
THAT ONE IS APPROVED AND THAT ENDS HERE TONIGHT.
[B. Case No. SP25-00019; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan application for 4009 East Covell office building, located at 4009 East Covell Road. (PQR Properties, LLC; Ward 2)]
ON DOWN THE AGENDA TO CASE THREE B.CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 1 9 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR 4 0 0 9 EAST COVE OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED AT 4 0 0 9 EAST COVE ROAD.
MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY 12,200 SQUARE FEET.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COVE AND FAIRFAX.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 6,400 SQUARE FEET.
THE ELEVATION SHOWS THE BUILDING WILL BE 28 FEET TALL AT ITS HIGHEST POINT AND THE FACADE WILL CONSIST OF BRICK AND STONE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED ON THIS.
LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
THAT AGENDA ITEM THREE B PASSES AND IS FINISHED HERE TONIGHT.
[C. Case No. SP25-00020; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan for Chick-fil-A #06106, located on the southwest corner of Covell and Sooner. (Greyden Engineering LLC; Ward 2)]
C.CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 2 0 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR CHICK-FIL-A.
NUMBER 0 6 1 0 6 LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COVE AND SOONER IS THE APPLICANT HERE.
THANK YOU MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY 1.7 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COVELL AND SOONER.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 5,500 SQUARE FEET.
THE ELEVATIONS SHOW THE BUILDING TO BE 23 FEET TALL AT ITS HIGHEST POINT.
THE FACADE WILL CONSIST OF BRICK WITH METAL ACCENTS.
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STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE, UM, PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS, DOES ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST COME UP? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US AND AND PLEASE ADDRESS ALL QUESTIONS TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.
UM, I LIVE IN TELL US YOUR NAME REAL QUICK.
I LIVE IN, UH, 4 0 1 5 RED DEER CROSSING.
AND WILL YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO THEY CAN HEAR ON THE VIDEO? YEAH, I WANNA READ.
BEAR WITH ME WITH MY LANGUAGE.
WHEN THE DEVELOPER, I BELIEVE WAS THIS GROUP, RIGHT? NO, NOT YOU GUYS.
WHEN THEY, UM, PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP FOR THAT PART, THEY PROMISE THEY'RE GOING TO, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO CUT THE TREE, BUT THEY PROMISE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A TREE BACK.
AND NOW, UH, THEY FINISHED THE LAND PREPARATION.
NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD CHICKEN FILET OR OTHER PLACE.
I ALREADY SEE THEY CLEAN THE LAND.
THEY DIDN'T PLANT THE TREE EVEN, THEY DIDN'T EVEN PULL THE GRASS BACK.
I SHOW YOU GUYS A PICTURE JUST A FEW MONTHS.
THAT ROAD, THE LAND ERO VERY, VERY BADLY.
IT WILL BECOME, MY BACKYARD WILL BECOME A RIVER.
MY BACKYARD WILL BECOME, I WILL LOSE MY BACKYARD.
I USED TO LIVE IN STEEP CHASE.
AND THEN YOU WANNA BUILD ALL THESE THINGS, ALL THE WATER, ALL THE TRASH.
BY THE WAY, THEY DIDN'T CLEAN THE BACK.
THEY, AFTER THEY DID THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY DUMPED SO MANY PLASTIC BAG, DRINKING WATER LEFT OVER BOTTLE AND A LOT OF PLASTIC CONSTRUCTION STUFF ON MY BACKYARD.
I WENT TO CITY DEVELOPER, UM, OFFICE.
I DON'T REMEMBER, UH, AMERICAN PEOPLE'S NAME.
THEY SAY, YEAH, IT'S UNDER CONTROL.
WE KNOW WHERE, ENFORCE THEM TO PULL THE TREE BACK.
NO TREES EVEN NO GRASS, JUST A MULCH.
OKAY? THAT'S MY SIMPLY REQUEST.
JUST ASK A CITY TO REQUEST THEM.
OKAY? OTHERWISE, I HAVE NO HOUSE, TWO, $3 MILLION A HOUSE.
WHO IS GOING TO PAY ME OR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LAWSUIT LAID ON, YOU KNOW, SO EASY RIGHT NOW THEY CAN JUST PUT A TREE.
I DID SOME PAPER I WANNA SHOW YOU.
I WHAT'S TO BE, SO I SHOW THE PICTURE I TO WASH AWAY.
BE SURE YOU GO TALK BACK IN THERE, IN THERE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
IS THERE ENOUGH THAT SOMEBODY ELSE YOU WANT PASS? JUST HAND IT ALL TO ME IF YOU WANT SOMETHING PASSED.
I, I JUST SAID I JUST WANT THE TREE AND THE GRASS.
I, THAT'S WHAT I WANT CITY DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR CITY CAN HELP YOUR RESIDENTS FOR PROTECT THEIR HOUSE, OTHERWISE, LATER ON IT WAS A BIG, BIG PROJECT.
NOW, MAYBE SMALL THINGS, BUT LATER ON WILL BECOME A BIG ISSUES.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED AND I WILL JUST SPEAK FROM KNOWING HOW DEVELOPMENTS WORK.
TYPICALLY THE GRASS AND TREES COME IN AFTER YOU SEE PHYSICAL STRUCTURES GO UP.
SO RIGHT NOW THEY HAVEN'T BUILT ANY PHYSICAL STRUCTURES.
SO USUALLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHEN THE GRASS AND TREES WILL COME IN.
MR. BEATTY, I'M SURE YOU'VE JUST HEARD WHAT SHE JUST MENTIONED.
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AND SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE DRAINAGE AND THE STUFF ON THERE.ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ON THERE? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE, BUT I WILL HAVE SOME OF MY STAFF CHECK IT OUT TOMORROW MORNING.
AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH AS FAR AS EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL, I'LL GET THEM WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO, SORRY, I ALREADY TALKED TO, I DON'T KNOW, CT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THE THREE PERSON, THEY SAY IT'S DOWN.
WELL, YOU HEARD, YOU HEARD WHAT THE CITY ENGINEER, ENGINEER JUST SAID.
AND SO IF YOU WANNA HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION, TALK TO HIM AFTER THE MEETING OR SOMETHING, OR TOMORROW.
HE, HE'S THE ONE THAT, HE'S THE ONE THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IT FOR YOU.
YEAH, WE HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION SO YEAH, HE CAN GET IT FOR YOU.
YEAH, IT'LL BE AFTER THE MEETING THOUGH.
LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
THAT ONE IS APPROVED AND IT IS DONE HERE TONIGHT.
[D. Case No. ES25-00006; Public Hearing and Consideration for an Easement Closing for 1700 S State Street Electrical Easement, located northeast of S State and W 18th Streets. (Mike Looney; Ward 3)]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM 3D, CASE NUMBER ES 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 6 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR AN EASEMENT CLOSING AT 1700 SOUTH STATE ELECTRICAL EASEMENT LOCATED AT NORTHEAST OF SOUTH OF SOUTH STATE AND WEST 18TH STREETS IS THE APPLICANT HERE.THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BRIAN.
AS YOU INDICATED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CLOSE AN ELECTRIC EASEMENT AT 1700 SOUTH STATE.
THE ELECTRIC, UH, EDMOND ELECTRIC DOES NOT HAVE FACILITIES LOCATED IN THIS EASEMENT.
THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE EASEMENT CLOSING AND NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM FRANCHISE UTILITIES.
UM, WITH THOSE CONDITIONS BEING MET, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM.
SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THAT ONE IS APPROVED ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO AND THAT MOVES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JANUARY 26, 26.
[E. Case No. Z22-00035; Public Hearing and Consideration for an Amended Planned Unit Development from “PUD Z22-00035” Kelly Corner to “PUD Z22-00035” Kelly Corner – Amendment, a mixed-use development located on the southeast corner of Covell and Kelly. (Rubenstein & Pitts; Ward 1)]
ITEM THREE E, CASE NUMBER Z 22 DASH 0 0 0 3 5 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR AN AMENDED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUDZ 22 DASH 0 0 0 3 5.UH, KELLY CORNER TO PUDZ 22 DASH 0 0 0 3 5.
KELLY CORNER, AMENDED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS THE APPLICANT HERE THEY ARE PRESENT.
SO MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS PUD AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 150 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COVELL AND KELLY.
AS A REMINDER, NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE EAST AND SOUTH, ARE ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH SIGNAL FA SINGLE FAMILY BUILDINGS TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR TO THE SOUTHEAST TO THE WEST, IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES TO THE NORTH, IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, INCLUDING A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY AND A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX.
EDMOND'S CURRENT ZONING CODE ACCOMMODATES LARGE SCALE MULTIPLE USE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS BY USING THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE PUD WAS FIRST APPROVED IN APRIL OF 2023.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT AS A NEW URBANIST COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, THE AMENDED PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING KEY UPDATES, REFERENCES TO SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES IN THE USE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ALLOWED UNITS IN THE SENIOR LIVING AREA FROM ONE 20 TO ONE 30.
UH, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THE CENTER PORTION IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL AREA SIX HAS ADDED A UNIT CAP OF 300 UNITS AND ALLOWS FOR OFFICES INCORPORATED INTO TOWN HOMES.
THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF COMMON AREA FROM 15.8 ACRES TO 18.4 ACRES.
AND THE ADDITION OF A SENSITIVE BORDER ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY BOUNDARY IN THE FORM OF A BUFFER VARYING IN WIDTH FROM 30 FEET TO 70 FEET.
THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS MIXED USE CAMPUS.
THIS PLAN CATEGORY SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER AND BE CLOSELY CONNECTED.
THE AMENDED PUD MEETS THE INTENT OF THIS PLAN CATEGORY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BRIAN.
MR. MCKINNIS, DO YOU WANNA ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? UH, GOOD EVENING.
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UH, CLAY COLE IRON IS ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.UH, MR. BRIAN SAID IT PERFECTLY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'RE JUST A COUPLE YEARS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND WE HAD MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION, SO WE WANTED TO SHARE IT IN THE FORM OF AN AMENDED PUD AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING AND THE SITE PLANNING.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, JUST A KIND OF A CLARIFICATION.
YOU ARE, I THINK THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE P THAT, UH, YOU SET THE, UH, THE WIDTH OF THE STREETS.
YOU'RE WANTING BASICALLY TO HAVE A 24 FOOT STREET, UH, VERSUS THE, UM, STANDARD 26 FEET.
AND I DON'T KNOW, KEITH, IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT OR NOT.
WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR REASONING FOR NOT MEET, MEETING THE STANDARD OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY HAS SET FORTH? WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER IS THAT THE CITY STANDARDS BASED ON SUBURBAN SPRAWL, AND WE HAVE A NEW URBANISM DEVELOPMENT THAT CRAWLS FOR SMALLER STREETS THAT ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN DOMINANT AS OPPOSED TO VEHICULAR DOMINANT.
IN EDMOND TODAY, ACTUALLY I DROVE HERE, UH, CAME UP PINE OAK.
PINE OAK IS 26 FEET WIDE, IT'S CURB AND GUTTER AND ALLOWS PARKING ON EITHER SIDE.
AND SO OUR DEVELOPMENT, IT WANTS TO HAVE A DEDICATED PARALLEL LINE THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THAT SIZE PARKING MINUS ONE FOOT WITH STRIPING SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE.
AND SO THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW URBANISM DEVELOPMENT.
AND MATTER OF FACT, THE CITY OF EDMOND UNDER THEIR DOWNTOWN STANDARDS IS JUST A, OR IS IN THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING, ALLOWS FOR 10 AND A HALF FOOT LANES OR 11 FOOT LANES IN A HUNDRED FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
SO THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE'VE CONCEPTUALIZED HERE.
SO YEAH, IT DOESN'T FIT URBAN SPRAWL OF COLLECTOR STREETS AND STEEPLECHASE OR COFFEE CREEK, BUT IT DOES FIT A NEW URBANISM TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S MORE SAFELY DIRECTED TOWARDS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
KEITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH AND YES, AND A LOT OF THESE STREETS ARE COLLECTOR TYPE STREETS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC AND ALONG THE COMMERCIAL, SOME OF IT COULD BE ALONG THE COMMERCIAL WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC TOO.
NOW OUR STANDARD COLLECTOR IS 32 FEET WIDE, BUT HERE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A STANDARD COLLECTOR.
WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING PLAN FOR A LOT OF PARKING ALONG THAT COLLECTOR TO SERVE THE, UH, MULTI-USE FAMILIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
SO THEY'RE DEDICATING EIGHT FOOT OF IT TO PARKING AREAS.
AND THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US THAT THAT'S A LITTLE TIGHT FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT OF THE AREA.
THE, UH, LIBERTY CREEK, UH, DEVELOPMENT WE APPROVED LA LATE LAST YEAR.
WHAT WAS THE, WE WENT THROUGH THIS THEN TOO.
WHAT WAS THE WIDTH IN THAT DEVELOPMENT? IT IS KIND OF SIMILAR.
THEY HAD SOME VARIANCES, BUT THEY'RE TAKING THEIR STREETS PRIVATE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE CITY ON STREETS.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HERE.
WASN'T THEIR STRAITS ON THIS PART PROJECT TO BE PUBLIC STREETS? OKAY.
AND SO THE CITY WILL OWN THESE STREETS AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THEM, KEEPING 'EM UP AND DEALING WITH THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND THE REPAIRS.
SO IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, IT'LL BE 32 FEET, BUT EIGHT FEET WILL BE PARKING AND THEN 24 FOOT OF STREET.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING THERE? YES, SIR.
AND IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC FOR A COLLECTOR TYPE STREET, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, 12 FOOT DRIVE LANES.
AND USUALLY THE CUTTER, THE GUTTER IS NOT USUALLY CONSIDERED PART OF THE DRIVE LANE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE A CERTAIN, THEY WANNA STAY A CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE GUT.
SO USUALLY THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED, LIKE WHEN WE DO A COLLECTOR, WHEN WE DO AN ARTERIAL STREET, WE DO 12 FOOT DRIVE LANES AND THEN WE DO A TWO FOOT GUTTER OUTSIDE OF THEM.
LET ME, I I THINK I, AND I APPRECIATE MR. BEATTY, WE DISAGREE ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, NOT NECESSARILY IN GENERAL, BUT AS I THINK WE ALL KNOW, THE EDMUND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT REALLY SUPPORT NEW URBANISM TYPE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE GO WITH THE CODE OR THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, AND I DON'T WANNA BE SILLY HERE, BUT THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS ARE, WE'RE GOOD WITH THE 32 FOOT WIDE STREET WITH NO STRIPING, BUT WE DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A 34TH STREET WITH STRIPING FOR PARALLEL PARKING, AN EIGHT FOOT STRIPING ON THE SIDE.
WELL, WE BELIEVE THE STRIPING ALLOWS A BOUNDARY THAT SHOWS WHERE YOUR CAR'S SUPPOSED TO PARK.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY STRIPING, SOMEONE MAY BE A FOOT AND A HALF FROM THE CURB OR MAYBE TWO AND A HALF FEET FROM THE CURB.
SO THE IDEA OF US HAVING STRIPING PROVIDES GREATER SAFETY FOR THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE LANES.
WE DON'T HAVE CENTER LINE STRIPING IN EDMONDS COLLECTOR STREETS.
SO IF YOU LOOK DOWN A STREET THAT'S 32 FEET WIDE WITH NO STRIPING AND PEOPLE COULD PARK WHEREVER THEY WANT ON THE SIDE, THAT SEEMS INCONSISTENT WITH SAFETY
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COMPARED TO A 30 FOOT FOOT, 34 FOOT WIDE THAT HAS AN EIGHT FOOT STRIPE ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE FOR PARALLEL PARKING.SO AGAIN, IT FITS A NEW URBANISM DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE WE DID THIS PUD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AS AN EXAMPLE, SHORT GRASS OVER ACROSS THE STREET IN COFFEE CREEK, I THINK IS 32 FOOT WIDE.
AND THEY PARK ON WHEREVER THEY WANT OVER THERE WITH NO STRIPING, NO CENTER STRIPING, NO PARALLEL PARKING, IT'S A COLLECTOR STREET.
SO WE BELIEVE SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO DO A DEVELOPMENT DIFFERENT THAN COFFEE CREEK, THAT'S NOT SUBURBAN SPRAWL, BUT MORE NEW URBANISM BY PUTTING IN A 34 FOOT WIDE STREET AND AN EIGHT FOOT SIDE PARALLEL PARKING THAT'S STRIPED.
IT'S EFFICIENT USE AND IT'S MORE SAFE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND IT DOESN'T COMPROMISE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT OUR STANDARDS IN EDMOND SAY TO ALLOW, I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT THE DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE STANDARDS OR THE STANDARDS ARE 10 AND A HALF FOOT WIDE LANES AND MAYBE 11 FOOT LANES.
AND HERE OUR SIDES ARE EVEN LARGER THAN THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE IDEA THAT THERE'S A STANDARD, THAT STANDARD IS OUTDATED RELATED TO NEW URBANISM DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S LIBERTY PARK OR ARCADIA 15 A OR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A CONFLICT, BUT THE CONFLICT ISN'T ABOUT SAFETY, IT'S ABOUT AN OUTDATED STANDARD COMPARED TO NEW URBANISM DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN SINGING THAT SONG SINCE WE FIRST GOT UP HERE THREE YEARS AGO.
ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO.
I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP THAT, YOU KNOW, SHORT GRASS IS A COLLECTOR AND IT'S ONLY TWO THIRD, 32 FEET WIDE AND THERE IS SOME PARKING ON OCCASION THERE, BUT IT'S NOT DEDICATED PARKING.
IT SERVES AS PART OF THE PARKING COUNT FOR WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THIS ON STREET PARKING AS PART OF THEIR PARKING COUNTS UNLESS I'M INCORRECT.
AND THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PARKING ON THE STREET.
OCCASIONALLY SOMEBODY WILL PARK ON SHORT GRASS AND OTHER 32 FOOT WIDE COLLECTORS, BUT YOU STAND, YOU TYPICALLY DON'T SEE CARS LINED ALL UP AND DOWN THE COLLECTORS.
SO THAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CASE THAN LIKE SHORT GAS, SHORT GRASS.
JUST JUST SO I'M CLEAR, OUR PUD DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ALLOWING FOR PARKING FOR ANY SITE PLAN OR PLATTING.
NOW THAT MAY COME IN THE FUTURE, BUT THE PUD IN FRONT OF US, MR. BEATTY DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING AS A PARKING COUNT FOR MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY OR INDUSTRIAL OR RETAIL.
IT SAYS THAT NOWHERE AND THERE ARE NO PARKING LIMITATIONS ON SHORT GRASS OR COVE VILLAGE DRIVE.
SO WHILE THAT MAY BE PROJECTING THE FUTURE, ALL WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS THE PUD TONIGHT.
AND OUR PUD DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING, NOT A SINGLE THING ABOUT ALLOWING FOR TRAFFIC OR PARKING COUNTS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH.
DO YOU ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS, MR. BADY? YOU GOOD, TODD? THANK YOU.
DOES ANYBODY WHAT? WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, PLEASE COME UP HERE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ALL QUESTIONS TO ME AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNCIL OR OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS JIM LEE AND WE LIVE IN THE COFFEE CREEK AREA.
WE ACCESS OUR HOUSE OFF OF SHORT GRASS ROAD OFF OF COVE.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PUD.
DOES IT PROVIDE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROLS FOR THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING ON TO COVEL? WE HAVE A TRAFFIC ISSUE RIGHT NOW AT SHORT GRASS ROAD IN COVE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ON COVEL IS FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL AND BECOMING MORE SUBSTANTIAL EVERY DAY.
AND IF YOU POUR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THIS PUD ONTO COVEL, THERE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF SAFETY ISSUE WITH REGARD TO THAT INTERSECTION OF, OF COVE AND, AND SHORT GRASS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUD OKAY, A A ANSWERS THAT QUESTION OR WHETHER I'M OUTTA YEP.
WE'LL GET ANSWERS FOR, UH, TO ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END.
SO IS THAT THE ONLY QUESTION YOU HAVE? YEAH.
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANYBODY ELSE? COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.
MY COMPANY OWNS A, UH, OIL AND GAS LEASE UPON THIS TRACK OF LAND.
THE FIRST COMMENT THAT PERHAPS SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME WITH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RED
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LINES REPRESENT ON THE LARGER MAP.ADDITIONALLY, IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER, THERE'S WHAT APPEARS TO BE A SECTION MAP WITH A DARKENED IN, UH, CORNER IN THE, IN THE, UH, UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THAT AND THAT DIMENSIONS OF THAT LOT OR THAT IS DISPROPORTIONATE TO THE DRAWING OF THIS QUARTER SECTION.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER BEFORE I MAKE MY FULL STATEMENT.
WELL, THAT I, I CAN TELL YOU REAL QUICK, THE, THAT BLACK AND PART'S JUST A PIECE OF THE PUD, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S ENCOMPASSING WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AS A PICTORIAL UP THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER THAT YES, UPPER RECORD, THE BLACK PIECE IS THE, IS WHAT'S PIC IS THE PICTORIAL OF HERE.
NO, TODD OR CLAY, DO YOU GUYS WANNA ADD TO THAT? IS THAT OKAY IN THE CORNER? THE, THE SECTION MAP THAT'S GOT THAT'S RIGHT.
THIS SECTION IN THE CENTER OF IT.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST A BLOWN UP PIECE OF THAT.
THAT'S JUST SHOWING YOU WHERE IT'S AT ON THE MAP.
YEAH, BUT I WOULD CONTEND IT'S NOT, WELL THERE MAY BE MORE TO IT, BUT I THINK THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE THIS, THIS LARGER MAP, THE RED LINE RIGHT TO LEFT RED LINE FROM THERE UP WOULD REPRESENT ROUGHLY 120 ACRES THAT CORNER IN THE, UH, THAT BLACK CORNER DOES NOT REPRESENT 120 ACRES.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, SOMEWHAT MISLEADING I WOULD SAY.
BUT IF YOU SOMEONE COULD TELL ME BEYOND THAT, WHAT THESE RED LINES REPRESENT.
THERE'S SOME WRITING UP THERE, BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT OUT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TWO LINES HERE, A LINE UP AND THERE AND SO ON.
WHERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT GONNA TAKE PLACE INSIDE THOSE RED LINES OR OUTSIDE THOSE RED LINES? OKAY.
AND A ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO READ MY STATEMENT HERE, BUT IF I INTERPRET THIS CORRECTLY, YOU KNOW, OUR COMPANY HAS OIL WELLS PLACED TO THE NORTH OF THAT, UH, LARGEST UH, RIGHT TO LEFT RED LINE.
SO THOSE ARE THE ISSUES I HAVE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MAP.
BUT, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ MY STATEMENT IF I MAY.
I'M THE OWNER OF THE HARLAND OIL COMPANY, UH, AND COSTELLA INCORPORATED, THE HARLAND OIL COMPANY OWNS AN OIL AND GAS LEASE ON THE LANDS COVERED BY THE PROPOSED PUT.
IS THE OPERATOR FOR THE HARLAND OIL COMPANY ON THE LANDS.
COVERED BY THIS PUT, THE LANDS COVERED BY THE PROPOSED P ARE PART OF A UNIT APPROVED BY ORDER OF THE OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSION, WHICH ADOPTED THE PLAN OF UNITIZATION ORDER NUMBER 3 9 4 6 4, 1 OF THE COMMISSION ON AUGUST THE 15TH, 1995.
AND THEY NAMED IT THE NORTHWEST EDMOND UNIT.
PURSUANT TO THE PLAN OF UNITIZATION, HARLAND OIL COMPANY, S LEE, LESSEE AND CASTELLA AS UNIT OPERATOR HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE AS MUCH OF THE SURFACE LAND WITH ANY UNIT AS MAY BE REASONABLY NECESSARY FOR UNIT OPERATIONS AND REMOVAL OF OIL AND GAS FROM THE UNIT, AREA AND SPACE NECESSARY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OPERATION FACILITIES, DRILLING RIGS, INCEST, UH, ACCESS, UH, TO THESE LOCATIONS AND ELECTRIC POWER TO BE BROUGHT INTO THESE WELLS.
AND, UH, YES, THE PARTIES SEEKING THE PUD THE CITY OF EDMOND IN MY COMPANIES HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN LITIGATION REGARDING HAR HARLAND OIL COMPANY'S RIGHTS UNDER ITS OIL AND GAS LEASE AND PLAN OF UNITIZATION SINCE JUNE THE 16TH OF 2023 IN CASE NUMBER CJ 2023 DASH 0 33 63 IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF OKLAHOMA COUNTY IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
THE PROPOSED BUT MAKES, MAKES NO MENTION OF HARLAND OIL COMPANY'S EXISTING RIGHTS UNDER ITS OIL AND GAS LEASE AND MAKES NO MENTION WITH THE NORTHWEST EDMOND UNIT, UH, OR THE EXISTING RIGHTS UNDER THE PLAN OF UNITIZATION.
THE HARLAN OIL COMPANY REQUESTS THAT THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS PORTION OF THE PROPOSED PLUG INCLUDE A STATEMENT THAT THE PROJECT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE PRIVATE RIGHTS THAT EXIST UNDER THE HARLAN OIL COMPANIES, OIL AND GAS LEASE, AND ITS PLAN OF UNITIZATION.
SO THAT SUMMARIZES MY CONCERNS, UH, COMING IN, PUTTING,
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WELL, WHAT I VIEW, PUTTING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY.I OWN OVER 300 OF 'EM AND I'VE SEEN TERRIBLE ACCIDENTS OCCUR.
I'VE SEEN ACCIDENTS OCCUR RIGHT HERE IN EDMOND.
SO THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT NO BUILDING CAN BE PLACED CLOSER THAN 200 FEET TO AN OIL WELL.
HOWEVER, THAT'S THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, THE REQUIREMENTS SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO GO CLOSER THAN 200 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE A PARKING LOT CLOSER TO 200 FEET.
AND, UM, A A QUICK EXAMPLE, UH, NORTH OF THE POST OFFICE, WE HAVE A WELL THERE AND THERE'S A, UH, DAYCARE FACILITY THAT WAS BUILT.
UH, THE PERSON THAT BILLED IT BRAGGED THAT THEY GOT IT LIKE AN INCH WITHIN THE TOLERANCE OF THE 200 FEET THAT'S REQUIRED TO BUILD A BUILDING.
HOWEVER, NO CONSIDERATION WAS GIVEN TO THE CHILDREN THAT ATTEND THAT FACILITY.
THE PLACE THEY GO OUT AND PLAY A FENCED IN AREA.
THE BUILDING'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S IT'S SAFE BY AN INCH, BUT THE OTHER AREA'S NOT.
SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS AS WE CONTINUE TO DO MORE DRILLING AND WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND, THIS AREA IS VERY PROLIFIC.
THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BARRELS OF OIL UNDER THIS TRACK OF LAND AND UM, WE'RE PRODUCING IT.
WE HAVE BEEN, SINCE WE GOT IN THE PICTURE IN 2012, CREATING REVENUE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, 7% OF EVERY BARREL WE PRODUCE GOES TO THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
SAME WITH THE NATURAL GAS WE PRODUCE.
AND OVER 100 PERSONS RECEIVE ROYALTY FROM OUR UNIT.
SO IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL BUSINESS AND VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO INTERFERE WITH THAT WITH THE PLACES WE WANT TO PLACE OUR WELL, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS RETIREMENT FACILITY, WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO PUT THE, WELL, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT.
SO OUR CONTENTION IS WE, OUR RIGHTS TO PRODUCE THIS ARE, UM, THE PREDOMINANT RIGHTS AND THE RIGHTS OF THE SURFACE OWNER ARE SUBSERVIENT UNDER OKLAHOMA LAW.
AND ACCORDINGLY, UH, WE, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PROPOSED PIPE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION EVERYONE.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
MR. MCINNIS QUESTIONS I HAVE THAT I SAW WAS TRAFFIC ONTO COVE, THE MAP OIL WELLS, AND YOU HEARD MR. HARLAN OR MR. MCCANN AND THE REQUEST OF THE SPECIAL COMMENTS.
SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THE TOP.
REGARDING MR. LEE'S COMMENTS ON THE TRAFFIC ON COVELL, UH, THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE AT PLATING AND SITE PLANNING.
I THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING BOTH TO KELLY AND TO COVELL AND THAT'LL BE WITH US WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS TO WHAT PART OR WHAT PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT DENSITY JUSTIFIES THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND HOW THEY'RE DONE.
SO I HAD A CALL FROM MR. WILSON YESTERDAY IN MY OFFICE, UH, JUST ABOUT THE TIMING OF THAT AND HOW THAT WORKS.
AND IT'S A FUNCTION OF ACTIVITY.
UH, AND WHEN THAT ACTIVITY REACHES A CERTAIN LEVEL THAT JUSTIFIES THAT IMPROVEMENT LIGHTING, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THEN THAT HAPPENS IN SOME SORT OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF EDMOND AND THE DEVELOPER.
IT'S NOT A ZONING QUESTION, IT'S A SITE PLANNING AND OR PLANNING QUESTION.
AND SO NOBODY'S, UH, IT HAS A HEAD IN THE SAND RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC ON COVEL, BUT IT, THE DEVELOPMENT AND ITS DENSITY IN THE CITY OF EDMOND WILL WORK ON THAT TOGETHER AT THAT APPROPRIATE TIME.
THE, UH, THE, THE RED LINES OR PINK LINES OR WATERMELON COLORED LINES OR BASICALLY THE GENERAL CIRCULATION OF TRAFFIC THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE PRODUCED AS PART OF A PUD.
I CAN'T MAKE OUT THE WORDS UP THERE, BUT I THINK IT SAYS MAINE TRANSPORTATION.
UH, YEAH, MAJOR TRANSPORTATION, GROUND MAJOR TRA YEAH, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
AND I'M GONNA HOLD MY TONGUE RELATED TO THE LITIGATION RELATION TO MR. MCCANN.
IT'S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE ZONING.
OUR GENERAL CONDITIONS SAY WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT AS ARE LISTED IN THAT SECTION AND THERE IS NOTHING RELATED TO ANYTHING NOR IS THERE ANY RIGHT OF THE CITY OR THE LANDOWNER OR THE PRIVATE WELL OPERATOR TO CIRCUMVENT THE RULES OF THE OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT'S OUT THERE.
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UH, AND IF I SAID MUCH MORE, I'D PROBABLY GET IN TROUBLE.SO I'M GONNA HOLD MY TONGUE AT THAT POINT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ONE.
IS THIS STILL UNDER LITIGATION RIGHT NOW? UH, YEAH, THERE IS ONGOING LITIGATION.
THERE'S A HEARING AT THE OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSION AND, AND THOSE FACTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY IN DISPUTE BASED ON WHAT WAS REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
BUT THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPERTY WHERE SOMEONE HAS AN EASEMENT TO DRILL IN HAMPTON HOLLOW OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND I THINK IT'S 125 FEET, NOT 200 FEET, BUT NOT REALLY HERE AND NOR THERE FOR THIS PERMITTING FOR OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY.
HAPPENS A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
ORDINANCES THROUGH THE CITY OF EDMOND OR THE OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSION.
THIS IS PART OF A WATER FLOOD THAT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
I THINK IT WAS PURCHASED ACTUALLY FROM BARRON EXPLORATION.
LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS AGENDA.
ITEM THREE EI WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO TWO THAT PASSES AND IT WILL BE SENT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ON JANUARY 26TH, 2026.
[F. Case No. Z25-00019; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Rezoning from “D-0” Suburban Office to “PUD Z25-00019” Bryant Brownstones Planned Unit Development, located on the southwest corner of Bryant Ave and Locust Lane. (CEC, Inc; Ward 3)]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM THREE F, CASE NUMBER Z 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 9 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR REZONING FROM A DO SUBURBAN OFFICE TO PUDZ 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 9.BRYANT BROWNSTONES, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BRYANT IN LOCUS LANE.
IS THE APPLICANT, UH, PRESENT? YES.
AND MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.7 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BRYANT AND LOCUST LANE.
NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH ZONED AND DEVELOPED AS AN OFFICE PARK TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH, THE ZONED SUBURBAN OFFICE AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
EDMOND'S CURRENT ZONING CODE ACCOMMODATES INFILL PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS BY USING THE PLAIN UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE ALLOWED USES INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, PARKS, AND A COMMUNITY CLUBHOUSE.
A MAXIMUM OF 20 TOWN HOMES IS ALLOWED A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 34 FEET IS ALLOWED.
A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 40 FEET IS ALLOWED LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING A LANDSCAPED BUFFER ALONG THE OUTER EDGES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND A SIX TO EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE OUTER BOUNDARY WHERE IT IS ADJACENT TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES.
ACCESS TO THE PROJECT WILL BE FROM A GATED DRIVEWAY ON LOCUST LANE AND WILL INCLUDE PRIVATE STREETS, INCLUDING POSSIBLE ALLEYWAYS.
SIDEWALKS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OR RECONSTRUCTED ALONG LOCUST LANE TO CONNECT WITH THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ON BRYANT.
INTERNAL WALKWAYS WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN THE COMMON AREA, BUT NOT REQUIRED ALONG THE PRIVATE STREETS.
THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS S ONE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS PLAN CATEGORY IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND REFLECTS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WAS COMMON IN THE 1960S, SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.
THESE AREAS TEND TO HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE FULL COMPLEMENT OF UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES DUE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT LIFECYCLE AND DESIRABILITY.
THESE AREAS OFTEN ATTRACT INFILL OR REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP ENSURE THAT THESE OPPORTUNITIES CONTRIBUTE TO THE AREA.
THE PLAN CALLS FOR DESIGNS TO BE SENSITIVE TO NEARBY DEVELOPMENT, BUT MAKING EFFICIENT USE OF TWO OR THREE STORY BUILDINGS TO LINE ARTERIALS, MINIMIZE SURFACE PARKING LOTS, AND PROVIDE AMBLE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING THE PROPOSED PUD CONFORMS TO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE S ONE PLAN CATEGORY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? COME ON UP.
GOOD EVENING, DEAN COLITA, CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, 4,700 GUARDIA PARKWAY REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOWN ZONING THIS, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A A OFFICE ZONING RIGHT NOW.
WE FEEL THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A LESS INTENSIVE USE HERE.
AND KINDA THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY, THE ERON FAMILY'S OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND YOU KNOW, THEY, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY THEY COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, BOUGHT A PROPERTY FURTHER TO THE WEST WITHIN THE, UM, UNPLED SUBDIVISION AREA, BUT THEY CHOSE TO PUT IT HERE, UM, AND, AND LIVE HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE LIFECYCLE OF, AND, AND ONCE THAT HAS TURNED, YOU KNOW, THEY OBVIOUSLY HAD A, AN IDEA TO REDEVELOP THIS LAND 'CAUSE IT WAS ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL.
SO THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, THOUGHT BROUGHT INTO THIS.
SO WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT HAD BEEN NEEDED.
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MARKET IS NOT DOING AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY FROM SINCE COVID AND YOU KNOW, IS OFFICE NEEDED HERE.BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OR TOWN HOME TYPE DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR THAT, UM, IN VARIOUS TYPES OF PRODUCTS.
OBVIOUSLY IN EDMOND, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS IN THE ZONE OF S ONE THAT, THAT DOES MEET THE COMP PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, IN, IN OUR OPINION, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS, WE THINK IT'S A LOW IMPACT TO THE AREA SPECIFICALLY WITH THE LOCATION.
UM, IF YOU GO TO THE AERIAL, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS, UH, JUST TO A COUPLE BLOCKS TO THE NORTH AND ON THE THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S UH, ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S A TOWN HOME TRIPLEX THAT'S GOT 20 UNITS.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING JUST TO THE NORTHEAST OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, IF, IF YOU HAVE THE AERIAL THERE, UH, JUST THE NORTH THERE.
SO YOU DO HAVE SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THIS AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS AREA'S BEEN DEVELOPED FOR A WHILE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A UNIQUE, UH, SUBDIVISION THAT'S ON THE, THE, THE WEST SIDE THERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN GROWN AROUND AND DENSIFIED, UH, INTENSELY FROM THE BEGINNING.
I MEAN, WAY BACK 30 YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A KIND OF FULLY DEVELOPED CORE OF EDMOND.
SO PUTTING SOMETHING AND REDEVELOPING SOMETHING ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL, I THINK IT FITS AND CONFORMS WITH WHAT THE CITY OF EDMOND WAS LOOKING TO DO.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THEY WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO COME TO THEIR HOME.
UM, DURING THE THANKSGIVING BREAK, WE MET WITH THEM AND HEARD THEIR CONCERNS AND TRIED TO SEE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS UP FRONT.
SO, AND I WON'T TAKE THEIR THUNDER, I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE TO SPEAK, BUT THE MAIN THINGS WE WE GOT FROM THE MEETING WAS NUMBER ONE, TRAFFIC, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING YOU HEAR ON EVERY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND NUMBER TWO WAS THE ACCESS POINT OFF LOCUST.
THE THIRD UM, ITEM WAS THE, THE BASICALLY THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE DENSITY, AND THEN THE FOURTH ONE WAS THE HEIGHT.
SO TO ADDRESS FIRST THE TRAFFIC, WELL ACTUALLY START WITH THE ACCESS POINT.
SO THEY WOULD'VE PREFERRED THAT THE PROPERTY BE ACCESSED OFF OF BRYAN AVENUE, WHICH WITH THE DRIVER DRIVEWAY SEPARATION OF EXCEEDING, YOU HAVE THE BASIC, YOU HAVE 325 FEET I BELIEVE IS THE MINIMUM FOR DRIVEWAY SEPARATION.
THE PROPERTY'S ONLY 300 FEET DEEP, SO, OR YOU KNOW, WIDE.
SO YOU CAN NEVER MEET THAT GOAL.
SO WE'D HAVE TO GET OUR VARIANCE THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND OBVIOUSLY THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE ADDRESSED IT THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND YOU KNOW, WE WERE WILLING TO CHANGE AND WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE REDUCED THE, UM, DENSITY.
IT WOULD TOTALLY CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT WOULDN'T BE A NICE POCKET COMMITTEE WITH A GATED ENTRANCE.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE YOUR TYPICAL PUBLIC STREET WITH A CUL-DE-SAC.
SO, BUT WE WERE WILLING TO DO THAT AND WE MET WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND, AND YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE, THE ANSWER WAS IT'S NOT SAFE AND THEY WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.
SO WE, WE TRIED, WE HAD LAYOUTS THAT WE WERE POTENTIALLY GONNA DO, BUT WITH THAT NOT BEING A SAFE OPTION AND, AND HAVING A PUBLIC ROAD THERE, IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE TO COME OFF LOCUST.
SO WE BACKTRACKED AND JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GO, BUT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
BUT WE DID TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, APPEASE THEIR, UM, CONCERNS.
THE OTHER OPTION HERE, UH, WAS THE TRAFFIC OR THE OTHER KIND OF CONCERN WAS TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A MAIN ROAD OFF OF LOCUST GETS ONTO BRYANT.
SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS EXPANDING AND ADDING A FULL LANE WIDTH ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SOUTH SIDE OF LOCUST.
SO NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST A TWO, YOU KNOW, TWO LANE ROAD, WHEN YOU LEAVE, UM, LOCUST TO GO ON BRYANT, YOU HAVE TO LEFT AND RIGHT TRAFFIC HAS TO BASICALLY USE ONE LANE.
WELL NOW THEY'LL HAVE A DEDICATED LEFT AND A DEDICATED RIGHT.
SO WE'RE ADDING CAPACITY TO, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PUD 20 UNITS, BUT WITH THE, WITH THE UH, RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE OFF BRYANT SOME OF THE INTERNAL RIGHT OF WAY VARIANCES WE THAT WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME, WE WE'RE LIKELY GONNA BE MORE AROUND 15 UNITS AND THAT MAY EVEN GET REDUCED.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY TALKED ABOUT.
BUT MY POINT IS, IS THAT THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF THIS IS NOT GONNA BE AS IMPACTFUL AS I THINK PEOPLE MAY THINK OR, UH, PORTRAY IT'S GONNA BE.
UH, THE OTHER CONCERN ON TRAFFIC WAS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LEFT AND GO THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET OUT, WHICH DIDN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE TO ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE BRYANT HERE, THEIR, THEIR ACCESS, THEY HAVE A ACCESS POINT ALL THE WAY TO 33RD AND ANOTHER ACCESS POINT INTO BRYANT.
SO FOR US, WE'RE LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU, WHY WOULD YOU TAKE A LEFT GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU CAN BASICALLY JUST GO OUT RIGHT AND YOU HAVE AN EXTRA LANE TO DO SO.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE, WE DID HEAR THAT CONCERN, BUT WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THAT WAS VALID.
THEY DID HAVE CONCERNS OVER PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THAT AREA.
UM, AND WE TALKED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC DIVISION OF EDMOND AND THEY SAID THEY JUST NEED TO SEND A REQUEST IN AND THEY WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PUT SOME SPEED CALMING DEVICES IF THEY WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
SO I THINK THEIR CONCERN COULD BE MET BY JUST INSTALLING SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, UH, BARE, UH, SPEED CALMING DEVICE THERE.
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THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN.AND THEN THE HEIGHT OF THE PROJECT, WE HAVE 40 FEET IN THERE.
IF YOU GO TO THE AERIAL HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROPERTY, IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KIND OF SEE THE CONTOURS.
SO THE HIGH END OF THE GROUND IS ON THE WEST AND IT SLOPES PRETTY GOOD SLOPE TO THE EAST.
SO TO TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE IN THE FRONT, WE REALLY HAVE TO DROP THAT GRADE DOWN ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE TO GET IT TO GRADE PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE DROPPING THAT AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE FEET ANYWAY.
SO A REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS 35 FOOT HEIGHT.
WE'RE TOTAL 40, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE IMPACT THE VISUALIZATION FROM THE WEST, IF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO WITH THE GRADING, IT'S GONNA ESSENTIALLY WORK ITSELF OUT AND, YOU KNOW, VIEWS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE STRUCTURE THAT IS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY, BUT MOST OF THE STRUCTURES ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 200 YARDS AWAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TREES AND BUFFERS.
YEAH, THERE'S YOUR EXHIBIT THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE DROPPING THAT DOWN TO BE ABLE TO GRADE THAT PROPERTY, UH, PROPERTY TO PROVIDE DETENTION AND TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAVE IT A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, UM, WHAT WE HEARD THAT WE TRIED TO HELP ADDRESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I, YOU KNOW, I'D OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS AFTER THE RESIDENT SPEAK IF, IF, UH, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS MOMENT OF THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY STAFF? UH, QUICK QUESTION ON YOUR COMMENT.
IF YOU REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS IT BECAME UNSAFE.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
UH, YOU WENT FROM DOWN HOMES TO LIKE A CUL-DE-SAC OR TO A NO, YOU SAID SOMETHING WAS UNSAFE.
IF YOU ACCESSED BRYANT, IF YOU HAD THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF BRYANT AND NOT ON LOCUST, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE WHOLE LAYOUT AND IT WOULD JUST BE A, YOU KNOW, ONE.
BUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS CONFIRMED THAT THEY, THEY WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT DUE TO SAFETY.
SO THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH 'EM AS WELL BECAUSE YOU, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER ENTRANCE LOCUST, YOU GOT A PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT THERE THAT YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE OF HAVING ANOTHER IN ANOTHER INTERSECTION CLOSER THAN WHAT THE CITY MINIMUM IS.
SORRY, I THOUGHT THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
YEAH, NO, WE BASICALLY WOULD, IF, IF WE DID THAT WE WOULD COME INTO, OH, I BRYANT AND WE CUT, THERE WOULD BE NO ACCESS TO, TO LO BUT IN RESULT YOU WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS JUST BECAUSE OF THE LAYOUT AND YOU'D HAVE TO, TO DO AN L-SHAPED ROAD AND IT JUST WOULD, YOU KNOW, REDUCE, WHICH WE WERE WILLING TO DO.
BUT WITHOUT HAVING SUPPORT FROM ENGINEERING AND SAFETY CONCERNS, WE DECIDED JUST TO STAY WHAT WE GOT.
AND THE LOCUST LANE, IS MR. BATES'S A PUBLIC STREET, CORRECT? YES SIR.
BRIAN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TOO.
ON THE, ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT, SO I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS? YEAH, ONE'S THE BOTTOM'S GONNA BE A GARAGE.
UM, OKAY, SO IT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A STACKED UNIT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THOSE BROWNSTONE STYLE UNITS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF VISION OF IT.
UM, AND WITH THE DROPPING THE PROPERTY DOWN, DO THE GRADING, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THE, THE OVERALL HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, WOULD, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE WEST WOULD BE STILL, IT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 35 FEET, WHICH IS WHAT A SINGLE FAMILY, TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING MAX HEIGHT IS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONERS AT THE MOMENT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WANNA REITERATE, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANNA SPEAK TONIGHT, SO PLEASE ADDRESS ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND IF YOU'VE HEARD AND WE WANT AS MANY PEOPLE TO SPEAK AS POSSIBLE, THAT'S REASONABLE.
BUT ALSO IF YOU'VE HEARD A QUESTION THAT ALREADY BEEN ASKED BEFORE, PLEASE DON'T REPEAT IT.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU DIRECTLY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GONNA GET THE ANSWERS A AFTER YOU GUYS SPEAK.
I LIVE AT 2 8 0 9 FISHER ROAD.
UM, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN A HOME NOW, BUT MY GRANDPARENTS BUILT ONE OF THE FIRST HOMES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHILE THE DEVELOPER HAS LEGACY TIES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MYSELF, ALONG WITH ALMOST EVERYONE IN HERE HAS EQUAL IF NOT LONGER, UM, WE UNDERSTAND.
UM, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, UM, WE ARE ALL HERE AND I WOULD JUST SAY MAYBE NONE OF NOT ALL OF US ARE GONNA SPEAK.
UM, BUT IF EVERYBODY WOULD STAND THAT IS HERE FROM FISHER HILLS, THANK YOU.
WE ARE ALL HERE TO PROTECT OUR INVESTMENT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE SAFETY OF OUR FAMILIES.
ON NOVEMBER 28TH, I REACHED OUT TO THE DEVELOPER, TRACKED DOWN HIS NAME AND NUMBER THROUGH ONE OF OUR NEIGHBOR'S HELP.
I REACHED OUT AND SAID, HEY, WE HAVE CONCERNS.
WE WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO HOST A MEETING AND INVITE YOU INTO MY HOME, MY HUSBAND AND I FOR YOU ALL TO COME AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE
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PLANNING TO DO.UM, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT JUST GONNA SAY WE'RE OPPOSED FROM THE OUTSET, BUT WE ARE SHOCKED THAT NOBODY HAS REACHED OUT TO ONE PERSON IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT WAS US REACHING OUT AND HOSTING THAT MEETING.
UM, THAT WAS ON THE 28TH OF NOVEMBER.
ON DECEMBER 2ND IS WHEN WE HELD THAT MEETING ON A SUNDAY EVENING AT OUR HOME.
THEY CAME, THEY SHARED INFORMATION, WE HAD A CONVERSATION, UM, TALKED THROUGH THE PLAN.
WE SHARED ALL OF OUR CONCERNS, UM, PLANNED ON A MEETING HERE IN DECEMBER.
THAT FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER, UH, WE ALL SHOWED UP THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED.
AND I BELIEVE WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS THAT THEY HAD ADVISED THIS GROUP THAT THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
UM, THE PROJECT ENGINEER WHO WAS JUST UP HERE SPEAKING CONVEYED, UM, AFTER THAT TIME THAT, THAT THE CITY WOULD ENTERTAIN A POSSIBILITY OF AN, AN ENTRANCE OFF OF BRYANT AS WELL AS THE REDUCTION OF LOTS, WHICH DID ADDRESS OR WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS, NOT ALL.
AND WE FELT LIKE, OKAY, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT PLAN OR WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, AGAIN, HEARD NOTHING SINCE THAT TIME.
I REACHED BACK OUT AGAIN, ME REACHING OUT.
I REACHED OUT, UM, ON NEW YEAR'S DAY AND SAID, HEY, THERE'S A MEETING COMING UP ON THE SIXTH.
WHAT HAS CHANGED? WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR? AND THE RESPONSE WAS, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
SO THERE'S BEEN LITTLE TO NO COMMUNICATION, NONE ON THEIR PART, ALL ON OUR PART, REACHING OUT, TAKING INITIATIVE.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM IN A HOPEFULLY ORGANIZED FASHION.
AND, UH, ME PERSONALLY AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND AS WELL, UM, WE ARE AGAINST THE ENTIRETY OF THE ZONING, UH, AMENDMENT PROPOSAL.
UM, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR FIVE YEARS.
I BOUGHT THE HOME FOR MY FATHER-IN-LAW.
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW LIVED THERE BEFORE.
SO THERE'S A LONGSTANDING, UM, LOVE FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HOME THAT I'M IN OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT TONIGHT IS THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL PUD THAT WE HAD RECEIVED EARLY ON, AND THEN WHEN I CLICKED ON THE MEETING AGENDA, THERE WAS A DESIGN STATEMENT ON THERE.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU GUYS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION THE SECTION 6.1, WHICH IS ALL THE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR IN THE CITY ORDINANCES OF 22.46 AND 22.5 0.1.
THERE'S NINE VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED AND THAT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.
UM, DOCUMENT THAT I, THAT YOU GUYS HAD, YOU KNOW, POSTED, BUT IT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL PUD THAT WE HAD, UH, ORIGINALLY BEEN GIVEN.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE WAS ALSO A MEMO ON THERE THAT STAFF APPROVED.
AND I JUST WAS KIND OF CONCERNED AS A CITIZEN, AS WISE STAFF WOULD APPROVE NINE VARIANCES.
WHENEVER I'M LOOKING AT THE PD REQUIREMENTS IN THE ADMIN UNDER PARAGRAPH 22.4, 33 A ONE F, IT STATES THAT THE PUD DEVELOPMENT MUST BE IN STABLE CHARACTER IN HARMONY WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
AND IN OUR DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NO 40 FOOT STRUCTURES, THERE'S NO 3000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
IN FACT, NONE OF THESE VARIANCES ON HERE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS OF LAND, WE LOVE THE AREA.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT IN EDMOND AND YOU KNOW, I LOVE TO SEE EDMOND GROW, BUT TO ME THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE TO DO IT.
THIS INCREASES OUR DENSITY BY AROUND 1700% BY ADDING THIS MANY HOMES.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE SUPER SPREAD OUT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A 40 FOOT HOME, MY HOME SITS AT THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IN IN QUESTION WOULD ALMOST BE, YOU KNOW, 75 FEET FROM THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY.
WHEN I LOOK IN MY BACK PATIO, I'M LOOKING AT OPEN SKIES.
I'M NOT LOOKING AT 40 FOOT STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO A FOUR STORY BUILDING.
AND IT IS FOUR STORIES, UM, INCLUDING THE GARAGE.
SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.
THERE'S 85 TO 90% LOCK COVERAGE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE A PRETTY BIG CHOKING POINT FOR TRAFFIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 2.69 ACRES AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR SUBURBAN COMMUNITY.
AND WITH ITS PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT BEING SUBURBAN OFFICE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S ONE OF THE LOWEST DENSITY OFFICE, UM, OFFERINGS.
IS THAT CORRECT? AM I CORRECT IN STATING THAT I YEAH, THIS ISN'T A BACK AND FORTH.
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NOT MEAN I DON'T WANT TO BE OFFENSIVE, BUT YEAH.SO I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE 6.1 AND WHY THOSE VARIATIONS WERE NOT INCLUDED ON THE RECENT DESIGN STATEMENT OR IF THIS IS TRYING TO BE HARD CODED INTO THIS, INTO THIS PUD.
SO IF YOU COULD MAYBE ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
UM, I WILL, I WILL TALK STOP YOU ONE SECOND THERE.
I KNOW THAT I DIDN'T SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF IT WASN'T PRESENTED TO US, I, I DIDN'T SEE IT SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE BE ABLE TO REFERENCE IT, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
WE DIDN'T SEE THAT 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T COME THROUGH RECORD.
IT NEVER WAS COME UP FOR A VOTE OR EVEN A DISCUSSION POINT.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE NOT REVIEWED THE VD QUESTION? I WE DON'T.
WE DID UNLESS IT CAME BEFORE US.
I, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT IT.
IT WASN'T A AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS, SO.
I DON'T, I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
WELL, UM, I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT REALLY ANSWERING ANY OF MY QUESTIONS, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS IS IF YOU LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE OURS, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 1 0 0 3 LOCUST LANE.
UM, I'M KIND OF TOUCHING, FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH WHAT TYLER JUST SAID.
UM, WHAT WE, WHAT I'M ADDRESSING IS OUR CONCERNS FOR OUR PROPERTY VALUE AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, ALSO UNDER THE UMBRELLA THAT THIS REALLY ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBOR.
THEY ALSO DID PROVIDE US WHEN THEY CAME TO THE WOODWARD'S HOME ON THE SECOND, JUST KIND OF A PICTURE OUTLAY OF WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING.
UM, REALLY IT'S THE QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACTS THAT'S REALLY AFFECTING US.
IT'S THE INCREASED NOISE, THE LIGHTING, PRIVACY, PRIVACY CONCERNS, UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY SCHOOL AND COMMUTER TRAFFIC.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY EMERGENCY ACCESS.
UM, MY HUSBAND IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.
HE IS A NORMAN, UM, CAPTAIN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THE CONCERNS THAT WE SHARE FROM HIS PROFESSIONAL POINT OF VIEW IS THE ROAD WIDTH TO LOCUST LANE FISHER AND EVEN OAKWOOD IMP PADDOCK IS NOT YOUR STANDARD WIDTH.
AND SO IT IS ALREADY A, UM, TIGHT SQUEEZE WHEN THERE IS NO CARS PARKED, UM, ON THE ROAD.
WE DEAL WITH THAT ON A WEEKLY BASIS JUST WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT TRUCKS COMING THROUGH WHERE YOU DO HAVE TO PULL OVER TO ALLOW THEM SPACE TO GET THROUGH.
SO WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS TROUBLE DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE APPARATUS AND CARS PARKED STREET SIDE.
UM, OUR CONCERN IS WHEN THERE IS A PARTY OR THERE IS NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE RESIDENCE THAT ARE IN WITH THIS WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO US VERBALLY, 17 HOMES, UM, THAT IT WOULD CREATE A TRAFFIC FLOW WHERE IN THE EVENT AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE NEEDED ACCESS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO SO ALSO WITHIN THE TIGHT RESTRICTION OF THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CLOSE COMPOUNDS OF THE HOMES THAT IF THERE WAS A FIRE OR A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO GET THROUGH OR TO PROPERLY, UM, TO PUT OUT THE FIRE.
UM, SO THAT IS OUR MAIN CONCERN, UM, IS THE SAFETY, UH, THAT COMES WITH THIS AND THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT ALSO COMES.
SAFETY I'LL ADD TO, UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS AND NOT WANTING TO GET OUT AT NIGHT AS IT IS HARD TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AFTER HOURS AS WELL.
I OWN A PROPERTY AT 28 0 9 AND 23 FISHER HILLS FISHER ROAD.
UH, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN I'D JUST LIKE TO READ A PREPARED STATEMENT.
I WANNA START OFF WITH JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF FISHER HILLS.
I DON'T KNOW IF MANY PEOPLE REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, IT'S KIND OF A QUIET LITTLE HIDDEN PLACE, BUT I'LL JUST START THERE.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SLATED TO HOST A COUNTRY CLUB IN 1939 AND STILL HOLDS A NUMBER OF HISTORIC HOMES ON LARGE LOTS.
OUR KIDS PLAY AND RUN ACROSS THE STREET, AND IT'S A QUIET PLACE.
IT LIKELY HAS COMPARABLE HISTORY TO SOME OF OUR MOST COVETED NEIGHBORHOODS IN EBB AND SUCH AS CLAREN PLACE AND THE LIKE.
UH, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THAT 1930S HOMES THROUGHOUT THERE, OLD ROCK HOUSES EQUIVALENT TO THE CLAREN MANSION, FIVE, NINE ACRE, LOTS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS,
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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WITH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT STATED AS SUBURBAN OFFICES.WE CURRENTLY HAVE SUBURBAN OFFICES TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND IT'S CONGRUENT WITH THE AREA.
IT'S QUIET, IT DOESN'T IMPACT TRAFFIC FLOWS AS IT EXITS TO BRYANT.
IN NO WAY DOES THIS PUD REPRESENT A LESS INTENSIVE AND LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND I WOULD PAUSE IT TO SAY THAT IT MAY RIVAL SOME OF THE EDMOND'S HIGHEST DENSITIES.
CURRENTLY, IF YOU ATTEMPT TO EXIT GOING EAST ON LOCUSTS, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR IT TO TAKE MINUTES TO EXIT LEFT GOING NORTHBOUND DURING HIGH TRAFFIC PERIODS.
SHOULD THIS DEVELOPMENT ADD 20 HOMES, AND I'M GONNA SAY THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 2.3 CARS PER HOME.
THERE WILL BE 50 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES MAKING MULTIPLE ROUTES DAILY.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT THIS EXIT CAN SUPPORT THIS VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WITHOUT INCURRING SIGNIFICANT BACKUPS AND DELAYS FOR A SINGLE EGRESS.
WHEN I CAME TO YOU ALL TONIGHT TO GET HERE, I LEFT THAT WAY.
THERE WERE THREE CARS BACKED UP.
IT TOOK ME ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MINUTES TO GET OUT.
IMAGINE ADDING 50 CARS, DOING FIVE ROUTES DAILY.
WE'RE ALREADY BATTLING WITH FOLKS WHO USE THE NORTH SOUTH PORTION OF FISHER ROAD AS A SIGNIFICANT CUT THROUGH IN SPEED DOWN THE ROAD IN EXCESS OF 60 MILES AN HOUR, USING THIS TO GET THROUGH TO 33RD.
WE HAVE CONTACTED THE CITY NUMEROUS TIMES.
I I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE DONE, UH, TRAFFIC STUDIES OR NOT, UH, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.
THIS PLAN WILL CREATE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC FLOWS UP AND DOWN FISHER, AND WILL RESULT IN UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR ALL THE KIDS AND WALKERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I HEAR A LOT THESE DAYS ABOUT NEW URBANISM AND POCKET COMMUNITIES, AND THEY HAVE A PLACE IN CERTAIN AREAS.
I, FOR ONE OWN ONE IN CARLETON LANDING.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE OF THOSE PLACES.
THIS PROPOSAL MAY LOOK FINE TO YOU ALL AS YOU LOOK AT IT ON PAPER, ON A PLAT, BUT I WOULD CHALLENGE EACH ONE OF YOU TO GO LOOK AT THIS LOT TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF THE NATURE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BEFORE YOU TODAY.
I'M SURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS EVALUATING THE PLAT PER THEIR REQUIREMENTS, BUT TO ME, SOMETHING SEEMS TO BE HIGHLY DISTORTED WITH THE DIMENSIONS.
PLANS FOR LANDSCAPING, PLANS FOR A NEW RIGHT HAND TURN LANE WAS SIDEWALKS DETENTION POND, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT IS ON PAPER.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT 20 HOMES CAN BE LOCATED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WHILE MAINTAINING ROOM FOR A RIGHT SOUTH TURN LANE WHILE MAINTAINING ANY PRESERVATION OF TREES, SHRUBS, LANDSCAPING SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE FEET IN BETWEEN THESE HOMES.
YOU CAN BARELY WALK BETWEEN THESE PLACES.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE ADDITIONAL CARS VISITING WILL BE PARKED.
I CAN CERTAINLY GUESS THEY'LL PROBABLY END UP IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
UH, IT'S HIGHLY UNCLEAR TO ME HOW LONG THE LOCUST EXIT WOULD BE IMPEDED SHOULD YOU ALL APPROVE THIS AND WHERE, UH, THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION STAGING WOULD BE.
ADDITIONALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE EMERGENCY SERVICES WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS I'M SURE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, MULTIPLE CARS WILL BE WAITING ON THEIR SINGLE EGRESS POINT.
SHOULD THEY BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IN.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE TURN RADIUS AS, AS RIGHT HERE ON THE PLAT, UH, OR FIGHT FIRES PARTICULARLY.
SO IF ANY CARS THAT HAVE JOINED TO SEE ANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE PARKED ON THIS ROAD, THIS PUD IS BASED ON AN URBAN WALKABLE POCKET NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN.
WE'VE ALL SEEN HOW LONG IT HAS TAKEN THE DEVELOPERS OF LARK, EMBER, AND TOWNSEND.
THEY'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT BY A LOT OF CITY ATTORNEYS AND LEAD DEVELOPERS AS WE KNOW, AND THEY'VE TAKEN YEARS AND YEARS.
I'LL REMIND YOU TOO, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN AND WALKABLE AREAS AND HAVE QUALITY BUILDERS DESIGNS BEHIND THEM.
CURRENTLY, THERE'S AMPLE SUPPLY FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, QUITE FRANKLY, LOW DEMAND IN THIS SUBURBAN COMMUNITY FOR DENSE SPACING AND SMALL PROPERTIES WITH A VERY HIGH PRICE TAG.
I HAVE GREAT CONCERN THAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE DRUG UP FOR YEARS, THAT GIVEN THE PD ASPECT, THE PLAN MAY BE MODIFIED A FUR TO THE FURTHER DETRIMENT OF ADJACENT NEIGHBORS OVER TIME, LET'S STICK TO EDMOND'S PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT AND KEEP THIS ZONED AS SUBURBAN OFFICE SPACE WITH MUCH LOWER DENSITIES, GIVEN THAT THIS DI DEVELOPMENT DENSITY FAR EXCEEDS ITS SURROUNDING AREAS.
ALONG WITH THAT, IT WILL EXTENSIVELY INCREASE TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AMONG OTHER ITEMS, I'VE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THE PUD ALTOGETHER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT PRESENTER.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MOST OF ALL, THANK YOU NEIGHBORS.
UM, MY NAME IS WILLIAM ROGERS.
I LIVE AT 1202 LOCUST LANE, AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN THERE ABOUT 30 YEARS, BUT WE HAVE REALLY COME TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AS YOU DRIVE ALONG PADDOCK FISHER ROAD OR
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LOCUST LANE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I CALL WARNING PLACARDS, WARNING OF THE HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.AND I PERSONALLY HAD A, UH, EXPERIENCE WITH THE HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE A FEW YEARS AGO DURING AN ICE STORM.
WE HAD A VERY STRONG ODOR OF NATURAL GAS IN OUR HOUSE.
SO OF COURSE I CALLED OKLAHOMA NATURAL GAS.
THEY CAME OUT THERE VERY QUICKLY AND THEY HAD A TECHNICIAN THAT WAS DRILLING AROUND THE, OUR OUR GAS METER AND LOOKING FOR SIGNS WHERE THE, THE, THE METER WAS MALFUNCTIONING.
THERE WEREN'T ANY MAL, THERE WAS NO SIGNS OF GAS IN THE GROUND AROUND THE METER.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, THAT'S WHAT KIND OF WHAT WE EXPECTED, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE ON YOUR METER.
WHILE I KNEW THAT WE WERE GETTING GAS OFF OF THAT MAIN HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT OUR GAS METER HAD A PRESSURE RELEASE VALVE.
AND I BRING THIS POINT TO THE COMMISSION HERE BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT TRAFFIC DENSITY.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF, WITH ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, SOMEBODY HITS A GAS METER, WHICH MOST OF YOUR GAS METERS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE STREET.
MY GAS METER IS ABOUT 16 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF LOCUST LANE.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF A CAR HITS ONE OF THOSE PIECES OF, OF THE GAS LINE THAT ARE NOT UNDERGROUND? WE HAVE THE HIGH PRESSURE GAS, WE HAVE THE HIGH PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE ON OUR METER ALSO IN OUR YARD.
WE HAVE WHAT I CALL A LOOP VALVE SO THAT, UH, THE GAS LINE CAN BE EXTENDED UNDER LOCUST LANE TO BRING GAS SERVICE TO MY NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO I HAVE TWO PIECES OF, OF EQUIPMENT IN MY YARD THAT WOULD BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO BE DAMAGED BY ALL THIS INCREASED TRAFFIC, AND THAT THOSE COLLISIONS COULD BE TRAUMATIC FROM A HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE.
AND I'M, I'M, I'M VERY, VERY THANKFUL THAT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SO FAR SINCE WE HAVE A, UH, A, UH, PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE ON OUR GAS METER.
BUT AGAIN, GAS METERS ARE UP AND DOWN THE LINE, UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROBLEM THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD, WOULD BRING WITH, WITH, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DANGEROUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT UNLESS SOMETHING IS DONE WITH REGARDS TO THIS HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE.
AND, UH, WHEN I, UH, WHEN I HAD THE EXPERIENCE THAT MY FIRST EXPERIENCE THAT, UH, ONG PAR ONG HAD COME OUT TO THE HOUSE, THEY SAID, YEAH, WE TAKE REAL GOOD CARE OF THIS PRESS, OF THIS HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE BECAUSE IT SERVES MOST OF NORTH EDMOND.
SO THEY'RE TAKING GOOD CARE OF IT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE REAL GOOD CARE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD TOO.
SO PLEASE COUNT ME AS AMONG THOSE THAT ARE VERY STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND FOR A BRIEF MOMENT, CHIP WINTER'S GONNA BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE, OF THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU MR. STANDIN CHAIRMAN.
WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO BE HERE AND VOICE OUR CONCERNS.
IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS HERE THIS EVENING TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS AND CONCERNS REGARDING THIS BROWNSTONE PROPOSAL.
I LIVE AT 1315 LOCUST LANE AND, UM, ONE OF THE CLOSEST PROPERTIES TO THIS, UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH AND JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST.
UH, I HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 48 YEARS NOW, UH, GRADUATE OF UCO.
AND, UH, MY HOME IS ON TWO AND A HALF ACRES.
AND, UM, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW ALREADY, THAT, UH, APPROXIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE, 15 OR 20 YEARS, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS
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WAS PROPOSED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH WHERE NOW IS STONE CREEK, UH, OFFICE IS, UH, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY.UM, THEY PROPOSED, I THINK MAYBE EVEN 23, UH, TOWN HOMES.
AND, UH, WE VOICED OUR CONCERNS FOR THAT AT THAT TIME.
AND IT WAS DEFEATED AND VOTED, UH, DOWN THE, THAT PROPOSAL WAS REJECTED.
AND WE HAVE STONE CREEK, WHICH IS AN OFFICE DO, UH, ZONING, AND IT HAS BEEN REASONABLY COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
MOST OF THE HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ON, UH, ACRE, ACRE AND A HALF, TWO AND A HALF LIKE MINE, OR EVEN UP TO FIVE ACRES.
SO THIS THING HERE IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH ANYTHING SURROUNDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN A SECOND THOUGHT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY STAFF WOULD, UH, GIVE THEIR ENDORSEMENT TO IT.
IN FACT, UH, THE BUILDING HEIGHT, YES, THAT'S A, A CONCERN.
UM, IT'S OUTTA CHARACTER, UH, ON LOCUST LANE AND FISHER ROAD.
UH, WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS, SO WE WALK OUR DOGS AND OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS IN THE STREET.
AND, UH, SO A DIFFERENT, UH, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WOULD NOT BE WELCOME AND WOULD BE DANGEROUS, I THINK.
SO WE MUCH PREFER THE CURRENT DO ZONING AND ARE OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE TO A PUD.
THIS PUD WOULD BE A DUD IN MY OPINION.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS PROCEEDING? OKAY, I THINK THEY WERE CLAPPING FOR MY INTERIM FOR YOU.
I LIVE IN THE FISHER HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD AT 1200 PADDOCK LANE.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN A RESIDENT THERE SINCE THE 1950S, AND MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAD INTENDED TO RAISE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I'D LIKE TO SLIGHTLY EMBELLISH A FEW OF THEM.
AS YOU WERE TOLD, THE DEVELOPER HELD A MEETING WITH THE FISHER HILLS RESIDENCE, AND AFTER THE DEVELOPER HAD LEFT THAT MEETING, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE REMAINED TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE.
WE TOOK A STRAW VOTE AND OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT WAS UNANIMOUS.
OKAY, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED IS TRAFFIC FLOW.
NOW, THE DEVELOPER JUST SAID, WELL, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE BY PROPOSING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL TURN LANE.
YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TO CRAMS 17 THREE OR FOUR STORY BROOKLYN STYLE ROW HOUSES ONTO WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN A SINGLE RESIDENCE LOT.
NOW, PUT YOURSELF IN THE POSITION OF ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THESE ROW HOUSES.
YOU'RE GOING TO WORK, YOU EXIT OUT OF THIS ONTO LOCUST LANE.
NOW YOU COULD TURN RIGHT AND WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT TO MAKE A TURN ONTO BRYANT ROAD.
OR YOU CAN TURN LEFT ONTO LOCUST LANE AND CUT THROUGH THE FISHER HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA DO? I THINK THAT'S A NO BRAINER.
ANOTHER POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO REITERATE IS THAT AS PROPOSED, THE DEVELOPER SEEKS AN EXEMPTION FROM EVERY SINGLE MEANINGFUL BUILDING CODE.
AND IN ADDITION, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S POLICY ON REZONING TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS THAT IT BE IN HARMONY WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
I FAIL TO SEE HOW CRAMMING 17 BROOKLYN STYLE TOWN HOMES INTO A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL LOT IS IN HARMONY WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
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THANKS SIR.ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? OKAY, WE WILL LOOK FOR A, OH, I'M SORRY, DEAN.
I COME UP AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS NOT BAD.
I JUST WANNA ADDRESS SOMETHING.
YOU HAVE A LIST OF ME, I'M SURE.
YES, MOST OF THOSE WERE, WERE COMMENTS VERSUS, SIR, IF I MISSED, IF ONE, IF YOU'VE GOT ONE, JUST LET ME KNOW.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE FIRST ONE ABOUT THE PUD, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT SECTION 6.1.
THE PUD DOESN'T HAVE THOSE SECTION NUMBERS.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH VERSION HE'S LOOKING AT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THOSE SECTION NUMBERS SO I CAN GET WITH THEM AND MAYBE LET 'EM KNOW WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S NO SECTION 6.1.
UM, SO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS DESIGNED, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO WHERE THE FIRETRUCK, UM, THERE'S A LANDSCAPE, BUT THERE'S, SO WHAT WE DID HERE, WE HAD TO PROVE, AND WE ARE USING 26 FOOT WIDE ROADWAYS.
THESE ARE PUBLIC WIDE, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD, UH, ROADWAY SECTIONS THAT EDMOND REQUIRES ON ALL LOCAL STREETS AND THE RIGHT, AND THE, THE ADDITIONAL LANE ON LOCUST WILL BE PER PUBLIC STANDARDS.
UM, AND SO WE, PER THE DIVIDED ENTRY, WE DID A, UH, BASICALLY A, A VEHICLE TRACKER, WHICH TAKES A FIRE TRUCK AND RUNS IT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CLEARANCE IN ALL THE, THE CURB LINES.
AND SO THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS THAT THERE IS CLEARANCE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT.
AND WE ALSO TALKED WITH THE, UH, SOLID WASTE OF CITY OF EDMOND AND WE WORKED OUT THE PLANE WITH THEM TO WHERE THEY CAN GET THEIR TRUCKS THROUGH HERE.
AND IF YOU NOTICED, THE, THE, THE THREE UNITS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE ON OUT IN THE EAST AND WEST, UM, THAT WE WERE, WE KNEW THEY COULDN'T GET THEIR TRUCKS THERE.
SO WE ADDED THE TRASH BINS THAT WERE, UM, BASICALLY OFF OF LOCUS THERE.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER TRASH BIN AREAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SO TO, TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THAT.
WE, WE'VE WORKED WITH ALL THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FIRE CODE, SAME THING, BUILDING CODE WISE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY BUILDING CODE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA MEET, YOU KNOW, BUILDING CODE I-B-C-U-B-C, WHATEVER THE CITY STANDARDS ARE.
SO THERE'S NO BUILDING CODE ISSUES.
THERE'S CITY ORDINANCES THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, SUCH AS THE SIDEWALKS NOT BE INTERNAL TO THE STREETS AND THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE ADDING SIDEWALKS ON THE PUBLIC STREETS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY TECHNICAL VARIANCE PER SE THAT WE'RE ASKING.
UH, WHEN THIS, IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALSO A VARIANCE IN THERE ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY TAKE ON BROAD ON BRYANT.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SQUEEZE IT IN, SO WE'RE GONNA END UP LOSING SOME UNITS.
THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS THAT WE HAVE TO, IT'S 40 FEET FOR A PRIVATE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN AND, AND ADJUST IT'S, IT'S GONNA SQUEEZE IT TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME UNITS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ALL, BUT THAT'S ALL PRELIMINARY APPLIED.
BUT LIKE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, UM, TRAFFIC, UH, BACK TO THAT ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT'S, THE NORTH, UH, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS WOULD BECOME IF IT STAYED.
DO YOU KNOW, THERE'S SIX BUILDINGS AND THEY HAVE 65 PARKING SPOTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE HAVE, IF YOU HAVE TWO CARS PER HOME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 OR IF YOU, IF YOU DID, IT'S 40.
SO, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT NUMBER OF VEHICLES GOING THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE THEIR PEAK TIMES ARE DURING THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GONNA BE MORE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO ANYWAY, THE, THE NEVADA DENSITY IN THE CAR TRAFFIC GENERATED BY AN OFFICE, IF IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED, WOULD BE HIGHER IF IT WAS FULLY LEASED OUT THAN IF THINK IT WOULD BE HERE JUST BY THE CHEER NUMBER OF CO JUST, HEY, PLEASE, NO, HEY, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THE CROWD.
PLEASE, YOU'VE HAD YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK.
JUST BY TRAFFIC CAR NUMBERS PER HOME, IF YOU DID THREE PER, IF YOU DID THREE PER LOT, IT'S, IT'S STILL LESS, IT'S 60.
JUST, JUST PUTTING OUT NUMBERS, NOT NOT OPINIONS HERE.
SO THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 65 SPOTS TO THE NORTH.
UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SIDE SETBACKS OF THE HOMES, THE, THE SIDE LOT YARD IS THREE FEET ON EACH LOT.
SO BETWEEN THE, AND THOSE SHOWN IS ACTUALLY A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT.
IT'S JUST A, IT'S MORE OF A BROWNSTONE TOWN HOME BECAUSE YOU HAVE A TIGHTER, LIKE THE LARK, YOU HAVE THREE FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON EACH LOT AND THAT MEETS FIRE COAT.
SO IF YOU GO OUTTA YOUR HOME, YOU CAN, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ABILITY TO GET THROUGH YOUR LOT.
SO THE, IT'S SIX FEET BETWEEN UNITS, THREE FEET BETWEEN LOT LINE TO UNITS.
UM, THE GAS LINE, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE.
UM, WE'LL MEET ALL, YOU KNOW, GAS STANDARDS AND ANYTHING SAFETY WISE FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO BACK TO THE CUT THROUGH, UM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
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HAS AN ACCESS POINT, SO LET'S JUST BE DEVIL ADVOCATE HERE.SAY THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO TAKE, SAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA RIGHT.
THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA GO RIGHT, THEY'RE GONNA GO LEFT, WHICH I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WOULD, BUT IF THEY DO, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TAKE, TAKE, TAKE A LEFT AND GO SOUTH.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO? THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK TO BACK TO BRYANT.
WHY WOULD THEY NOT JUST TAKE A RIGHT ON BRYANT AND THE DEDICATED RIGHT TURN, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO 33RD, WHY WOULD YOU NOT JUST TAKE A RIGHT IN YOUR DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE AND GO TO 33RD? THAT ARGUMENT JUST DOESN'T HOLD ANY WEIGHT TO ME ON, ON WHY YOU WOULD TAKE A LEFT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO NORTH FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHERE THERE, WHERE THERE'S ISSUES OF BACKUP IS GOING NORTH ON BRYANT.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY ADDING CAPACITY BY ADDING THAT THIRD, THAT SECOND LANE OFF OF LOCUST.
SO JUST NUMBERWISE, I'M A NUMBER GUY, I'M AN ENGINEER.
NUMBERWISE, I FEEL WE WERE ADDING CAPACITY FOR THE TRAFFIC TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE SOME TURNS AND HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.
SO, AND THAT WAS ALL I HAD UNLESS THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT, THAT YOU GUYS FELT THAT, UH, I DID NOT ADDRESS.
I THINK THAT WAS EVERYTHING I HAD.
LIKE I SAID, MOST OF 'EM WERE STATEMENTS, SO THAT WAS THE QUESTIONS TO AN EXTENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE OF THE COMMISSIONERS? YES.
UM, YOU SAID EARLIER C COULD WE GO TO THE AERIAL SHOT? SURE.
UM, YOU SAID THERE'S A, SOMETHING, A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A TRIPLE.
YOU HAVE TO GO TO YOUR, YEAH, GO TO THE EDMOND.
IF YOU GO TO THE NORTH, JUST THE HAIR IF YOU CAN, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN PAN OUT.
IT'S JUST THE NORTH OF THE, UH, AMESBURY LANE, THE DEVELOPMENT UP THERE.
THERE'S, IT'S BASICALLY A ROW, SORRY, IT'S A ROW OF TRIPLEXES AND DUPLEXES AND THERE'S ABOUT 20 UNITS IN THERE.
IT'S A LITTLE POCKET COMMITTEE RIGHT THERE.
IS THAT, WAS THAT RECENTLY BUILT, LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS? NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, IT'S BEEN FOR A WHILE.
YEAH, SO I WAS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE AREA, WHICH IS JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, A COUPLE BLOCKS UP TO THE NORTHEAST.
SO, BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND THOSE ARE LIKE TRIPLEXES, I BELIEVE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE HONEST WITH YOU GUYS AS AN APPLICANT FROM THE CHAIRMAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PART THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH A LITTLE BIT IS GONNA BE THE DENSITY WITH THIS.
I WANTED JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A LOT.
SO JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO, TO BRING UP TO YOU.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR 20, UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS THE DENSITY AND THE HEIGHT I THINK ARE GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR SOME, BUT THAT'S, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN OPINION, BUT THOSE ARE COMMENTS THAT I WOULD HAVE AND YOU MORE THAN WELCOME TO REPLY TO ANYTHING IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
AND YOU KNOW, AS TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER HERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 20 IN THE PUD RIGHT? AND, BUT YOU KNOW, AFTER WE LAID THIS OUT, WE HAVE 17 AND THEN NO ONE WE'RE GONNA HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKELY GONNA END UP WITH 15 EVEN IF THAT.
SO WE WOULD BE WILLING TO REDUCE THE LOT COUNT MAXIMUM IN THE PD TO 15, KNOWING THAT THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S MAXED OUT.
WE STILL GOT SOME ISSUES IN REGARDS TO RIGHT OF WAY AND VARIANCES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE, UM, OF GRANTED IN WHICH IN THE, IF IT GOES TO PLUM FLOOD.
SO WE WOULD BE WILLING TO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A 25% REDUCTION.
SO WE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT JUST BASED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, REALITY OF WHAT THAT SPACE CAN GIVE.
SO WE'D BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT.
AND THEN ON THE HEIGHT SIDE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXHIBIT, IF YOU SHOW THE EXHIBIT OF HOW WE HAVE TO GRADE THAT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE GRADING THERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO STEP THAT DOWN TO GET THAT TO BE WALKABLE.
'CAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE CENTER OF THE LOT IS, IS OBVIOUSLY IN THE MIDDLE AND YOU'VE, WE'VE GOTTA FILL UP THE, THE, UH, THE EAST SIDE TO, TO BE ABLE TO, BASICALLY WE'RE CUTTING DIRT ON THE WEST, FILLING UP ON THE EAST AND WE SET TO PROVIDE DETENTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE DIRT SCOPE'S BASICALLY GONNA FLIP FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
SO IT MAY ACTUALLY BE EVEN MORE THAN FIVE FOOT A CUT POTENTIALLY ON THERE.
SO, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF HEIGHT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, I THINK WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CONCEDE A LITTLE BIT OF HEIGHT IF WE NEEDED TO.
UH, BUT WE TRIED TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE HEIGHT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE GRADING, SO, OKAY.
BUT IF YOU FEEL THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT WE NEED TO DROP IT DOWN A COUPLE FEET, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT IF, IF NEED BE, SO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, CHAIRMAN MAY, UNFORTUNATELY PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE, ARE CLOSED AND I'VE HAD, WE'VE, I'VE HELD THAT A FIRM, IT'S A FIRM RULE, SO PROJECT I, I APOLOGIZE.
LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ARE, ARE WE MOTIONING FOR 15 AS AS PRESENTED? UNLESS YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT AS PRESENTED AS I'LL MAKE A MOTION AS PRESENTED, CORRECT? YEAH, AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
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A SECOND.THAT MOTION FAILS ON A VOTE OF ONE TO FOUR, HOWEVER, IT STILL GOES TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY, UH, 26TH OF 2026.
MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA, LOOKING AT CASE NUMBER OR 3G.
LET ME GIVE A SECOND FOR PEOPLE TO CLEAR.
[G. Case No. Z25-00020; Public Hearing and Consideration of a Rezoning for the property that is located on the southeast corner of N Covell Road and N Sooner Road from “A” Single Family Dwelling District to “PUD Z25-00020” Planned Unit Development for the Shoppes at Covell (Kirk C. Niemeyer; Ward 2).]
MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA.MOVING ON TO 3G, CASE NUMBER Z TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 2 0 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A RESOUNDING OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COVE AND SOONER, UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WHAT YOU GUYS? PERFECT.
MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 24 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COVELL AND SOONER.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE I 35 CORRIDOR DISTRICT'S STANDARDS AREA NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES TO THE EAST AND NORTHWEST ARE ZONE FOUR.
AND BEING DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH IS ZONED AS THE LEGACY AT COVELL PUD, WHICH IS BEING DEVELOPED AS A HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER WITH BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, DESIGNED TO BE ATTRACTIONS AND DESTINATIONS FOR VISITORS.
EDMOND'S CURRENT ZONING CODE ACCOMMODATES MULTI-USE, HIGH INTENSITY PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS AND ONES NEARBY WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE PD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS ALLOWED USES INCLUDE MULTIPLE FAMILY, LIVE WORK BUILDINGS, AND A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES AND STRUCTURED PARKING.
A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF OF 10 STORIES IS ALLOWED ACCESS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY MAY BE FROM COVELL SOONER AND OR MARKET STREET.
THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS URBAN CENTER.
THIS PLAN CATEGORY ENCOURAGES AN INTENSE MIX OF USES THAT NOT ONLY SUPPORT RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYERS, BUT LEVERAGE THEIR LOCATION TO ATTRACT VISITORS FROM THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
THE PD AS PROPOSED MEETS SOME OF THE CRITERIA OF THIS PLAN CATEGORY BY INCLUDING BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
MULTI-STORY BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED AND WILL BE EXPECTED IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PHASES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A PARK ONCE SITE DESIGN, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE AMPLE DEVELOPMENT OF PEDESTRIAN FOCUSED ACCESS AND CIRCULATION TRANSIT SERVICES BEING PLANNED FOR THIS AREA.
AND THIS DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY LEVERAGE THAT SERVICE.
THE PROPOSED PUD LARGELY CONFORMS TO THE PURPOSE OF THE URBAN CENTER PLAN CATEGORY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. BOX, DO YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT? SURE, BRIEFLY.
DAVID BOX 5 2 5 NORTHWEST 11TH STREET.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION FOR EDMUND IN TERMS OF SALES TAX AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, APPARENTLY WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE NEWEST CHICK-FIL-A, UH, IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
SO WE THINK ALL THE USES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED ARE, UH, APPROPRIATE GIVEN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE INTERSECTION.
PROXIMITY TO I 35 AND WILL BE, UH, A MEANINGFUL IMPACTFUL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? I'VE GOT ONE.
UM, AS YOU PROBABLY ANTICIPATED, I, I KNOW THIS IS, UH, URBAN CENTER AND IT'S A, I THINK IT'S, UH, VERY WELL LAID OUT.
UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 10 STORIES, I DON'T, I I THINK THIS IS VERY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA TO HAVE 10 STORIES.
I KNOW YOU'RE JUST THROWING THE FLEECE OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IT COULD BE.
AND I WOULD RATHER CAN YOU REDUCE THAT DOWN TO FOUR STORIES? WE COULDN'T DO FOUR.
I MEAN, ACROSS THE STREET, THE HOTEL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS, UM, AT LEAST SIX STORY GIVEN THE DESIGNATION OF THE CONFERENCE PLAN.
GIVEN THE NATURE OF HOW THIS INTERSECTION IS DEVELOPING, WE THINK SOME ELEVATED HEIGHT IS APPROPRIATE.
UM, FOUR, WE COULDN'T AGREE TO, WOULD EIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE? UH, HOW ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF? HOW ABOUT SIX? OKAY.
ALRIGHT,
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? COME ON UP.
STATE YOUR NAME AND JUST ASK QUESTIONS OF THE CHAIRMAN MYSELF AND WE'LL GET ANSWERS AFTERWARDS.
UH, SHILOH VALLEY IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE ACROSS THE STREET SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST AND NORTH, OR I'M SORRY, SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON SOONER ROAD BETWEEN COVE AND DANFORTH ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL.
TYPICALLY ONE TO TWO ACRE, LOTS, HEAVILY WOODED.
UH, IT'S A VERY NATURAL AREA AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ENJOY THAT.
UH, MY CONCERN, AS YOU MENTIONED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, HAVING 10 STORY BUILDINGS OR EVEN SIX STORY BUILDINGS, UH, WOULD CERTAINLY BE SEEN, UH, FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT I THINK ON THE PLAN IT WAS SHOWING THE, UH, ENTRANCE AND EXITS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ON SOONER ROAD WHERE IT NARROWS DOWN TO TWO LANES.
UH, THE CITY'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB EXPANDING COVELL AND SOONER INTERSECTION.
UH, BUT IF YOU GO HALF A MILE, QUARTER MILE OR THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE IN ANY DIRECTION, YOU'RE GONNA HIT TWO LANE ROADS AGAIN.
UH, SOONER ROAD'S, A TWO LANE ROAD COVE GOING ACROSS THE AFTER YOU GET ACROSS THE INTERSTATE'S TWO LANE, UH, COVE GOING NORTH IS TWO LANE, OR I'M SORRY, SOONER ROAD GOING NORTH IS TWO LANE.
UH, SO THERE'S JUST NOT, THERE'S JUST NOT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IN MY OPINION AT THIS TIME.
I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD ADDRESS EXPANDING THE ROADS, UH, IN ALL DIRECTIONS IF THEY WANT TO PUT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UH, THIS MANY BUSINESSES AND, AND THESE LARGE OF, UH, UH, BUSINESSES.
UH, I ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT, LIKE I MENTIONED THIS, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, UH, FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LARGE TREES, UH, OLD GROWTH TREES.
UH, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS, UH, HOW THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING DONE IN EDMOND TO, UH, MINIMIZE THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL IMAGE AND GET BACK TO MORE OF THE NATURAL LOOK, MORE GREEN SPACES, MORE FORESTRY PRESERVES, UH, AND SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
MR. BOX, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THE INGRESS EGRESS ON SOONER? I KNOW THIS ISN'T SITE PLAN, BUT DO YOU WANT TO WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC LOCATION THAT'LL BE DETERMINED AT PLAT AND UM, SITE PLAN, THIS IS DRAWN TO BE CONCEPTUAL.
UH, AND NOTHING MORE WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE YOU, UH, IN THE PUBLIC THOSE DETAILS WHEN WE COME FORWARD FOR OUR PLAT CYCLING.
AND BEFORE WE VOTE, ARE YOU OFFICIALLY WANTING TO CHANGE THAT OR ARE YOU, YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
I, I MEAN WE, WE, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT TO VOTE ON.
YEAH, YEAH, WE WANNA WALK AWAY WITH APPROVAL.
SO I MEAN, I I OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 10, 10 STORIES, BUT OKAY.
WE ALSO DON'T WANNA WALK AWAY, SO I GUESS I, I MAYBE SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS AT THAT HEIGHT.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE UH, I JUST WANTED APPLICANT SECOND WHAT CHIP SAID.
UM, ARE WE GOOD WITH SIX? CAN WE JUST, WE'RE GOOD WITH SIX.
LIKE I SAID, WE, WE WANNA GIVE OURSELVES FLEXIBILITY IN CASE WE HAD A, A SIGNIFICANTLY MEANINGFUL OPERATOR THAT WANTED TO COME THAT NEEDED ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.
SO, UM, IF, IF SIX IS WHAT IT IS, THEN WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
SO, SO IT'S YOUR REQUEST, YOU WANNA CHANGE THAT TO SIX BEFORE WE EVEN MAKE A MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SEEKING A MOTION AND A, A SECOND ON THE PUD AS PRESENTED EXCEPT FOR THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF BEING SIX STORIES.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 26TH, 2026.
[H. Case No. Z25-00030; Public Hearing and Consideration of a Rezoning property that is on 700 N Midwest Boulevard, from “G-A” General Agricultural to “A” Single Family Dwelling District (Austin Roberts; Ward 2).]
AGENDA ITEM THREE H, CASE NUMBER Z 25 DASH THREE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING PROPERTY THAT IS ON 700 NORTH MIDWEST BOULEVARD FROM GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.AND MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE SPECIFIC LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF MIDWEST, APPROXIMATELY HALFWAY BETWEEN SECOND AND DANFORTH.
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INCLUDE TO THE NORTH IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED AS LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST, IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED AS GENERAL AGRICULTURAL TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS TO THE WEST, IS ZONED FOR LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL USES AND IS UNDEVELOPED.THIS APPLICATION IS FOR BUYRIGHT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS.
THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 6,000 SQUARE FEET AND A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 50 FEET.
THE EDMUND PLAN CATEGORIZES THIS AREA AS S TWO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONTINUITY WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND ALIGNS WITH THE PROJECTED TRENDS IN THE NEARBY AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE PRESENTATION? OKAY, COME ON UP.
AUSTIN ROBERTS 700 NORTH MIDWEST BOULEVARD.
THIS IS A FIVE ACRE LOT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A PRIVATE RESIDENCE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
AFTER THE ZONING IS COMPLETE, OUR GOAL IS TO SPLIT THAT LOT INTO A THREE ACRE LOT AND A TWO ACRE LOT.
THE THREE ACRE LOT WILL BE USED AS ANOTHER PRIVATE RESIDENCE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
AND THE TWO ACRE LOT WILL BE USED FOR GENERATIONAL FAMILY.
SPECIFICALLY MY GRANDMOTHER, I BELIEVE THIS IS IN THE, WITHIN THE PLAN SCOPE OF THE AREA EAST OF I 35, AS ALL THE HOMES AROUND ME ARE EITHER LARGER RESIDENTIAL LOTS LIKE THIS ONE AND THIS REQUEST WOULD PUT OUR PROPERTY IN LINE WITH THE PROPERTIES AROUND US INSTEAD OF AGRICULTURAL LIKE IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? MR. BRIAN? THE ONE QUESTION I HAD, IT SAYS LOT SIZE.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR A SMALL AS A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT OR IS THAT YOU JUST REPEATING WHAT THE STANDARDS SAY FOR A YEAH, SO IT'S A BUYRIGHT DISTRICT, SO IT'S NOT A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, WE JUST GO BACK TO THE, THE CODE, WHICH IS CHAPTER FIVE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS AND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS, UH, 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE APPLICANT WAS DOING THAT BASED ON OUR ADVICE AS IT ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF OF THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANYBODY FOR WISH TO SPEAK, UH, FOR AGAINST THIS PROJECT IN THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED AND LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AGENDA ITEM THREE H WE HAVE A, A MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT PASSES AND MOVES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JANUARY 26TH, 2026.
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR AGENDA ITEM THREE.
MOVING ON TO CITIZENS' COMMENTS.
ANY CITIZENS WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT PLANNING RELATED PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING CHAIR OR COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK? THAT'S A CHAIR COMMISSIONER.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON AND LOOK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT.
SO WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO SECOND TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THAT'S RIGHT BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
THE MOTION OR THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.