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[1. Call to Order.]
THREE 30.I MISSED IT BY A MINUTE, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA AND THERE IS A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN THIS ROOM AFTER US.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A TIME CRUNCH TO STAY WITH.
WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND JUMP
[2. Consideration of Approval Items:]
RIGHT INTO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, A CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 16TH, 2025.I WAS NOT HERE FOR THIS MEETING, SO I APPRECIATE, UH, CHRIS, FOR, FOR RUNNING THAT AND, AND WORKING THROUGH ANY COMMENTS OR CHANGES.
I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE OF NAME CHANGES WE NEED TO ADJUST IN THE MINUTES ALREADY.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS? ALL RIGHT.
MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
AND SECOND, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
THIS IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT OR CONTRACT WITH GARVER LLC FOR A CORRIDOR STUDY OF DANFORTH ROAD FROM THE WESTERN CITY LIMITS TO COLTRANE ROAD FOR $336,700.
I'M HANNAH NOLAN WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO THE CITY WAS AWARDED $3.6 MILLION AND A FEDERAL SS FOUR A GRANT.
SS FOUR A STANDS FOR SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL.
UH, THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO REDUCE ROADWAY, UM, DEATHS AND SERIOUS INJURIES.
UH, WE ARE CONTRIBUTING 900,000 IN MATCH.
UH, PORTION OF THAT IS IN KIND MATCH FROM STAFF TIME, UM, OF THE TOTAL 3.6 MILLION 2.4 IS DEDICATED TO SAFETY COUNTERMEASURE CORRIDOR STUDIES.
SO WE'RE USING THIS FUNDING TO COMPLETE A SERIES OF CORRIDOR SAFETY PLANNING STUDIES ACROSS THE CITY PLANNING AND ENGINEERING STAFF.
STARTED WITH THE CITY'S HIGH INJURY NETWORK, UM, AND DEVELOP, DEVELOP WITH EDMOND SHIFT TO IDENTIFY OUR MOST CRITICAL ROADWAY SEGMENTS.
UM, THEN WE PRIORITIZED AND GROUPED THOSE INTO PHASES.
UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD OF PHASE ONE, AND THAT IS OUR SECOND AND BROADWAY CORRIDOR STUDY.
UM, SO THAT IS ON ITS WAY TO BEING COMPLETE, HOPEFULLY THIS MAY.
AND SO THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW IS PHASE TWO.
UM, AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DANFORTH.
UM, THAT'S OUR SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY CORRIDOR, UM, BASED ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK.
THE STUDY AREA RUNS FROM WESTERN CITY LIMITS TO COLTRANE, UM, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A COUPLE OF PORTIONS OF BOULEVARD AND NEW STEM ROAD, JUST BECAUSE WE SAW SOME CRASHES THERE.
UM, THE GOAL IS TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ACCESS AND SAFETY.
GARVER WAS SELECTED AS A, THE CONSULTANT.
THE COST IS 336,700, AND THE STUDY WILL TAKE ABOUT 15 MONTHS.
UM, ALL SS FOUR A FUNDED WORK MUST BE COMPLETED BY FY 29.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL INCORPORATE ALL OF THE FINDINGS INTO AN UPDATE OF EDMOND SHIFT SO WE CAN, UM, INCORPORATE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
SO, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, DO WE DO THESE STUDIES AS THE PREDECESSOR TO GETTING FUNDING FROM ODOT OR FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR ANYBODY TO HELP US WITH OUR ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION? IT DEFINITELY HELPS.
THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION IF I COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
I THINK YOU SAID IT DEFINITELY HELPS.
IS IT REQUIRED THESE CORRIDORS NEED TO BE STUDIED? WE, WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CRASHES AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT SAFE.
AND THERE'S THE STEP BETWEEN, THERE'S DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
WE NEED TO DO THAT PART BEFORE DESIGN.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT COUNTERMEASURES WOULD WORK ALONG THIS SPECIFIC CORRIDOR, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
IT, SO IT'S, IT HELPS, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED, UM, IS WHAT I HEAR YOU SAY.
YOU, IN YOUR OPINION, IT'S NECESSARY.
UM, SO DOES THAT PRECLUDE DOING ANY WORK ON DANFORTH UNTIL THIS STUDY IS COMPLETED? BECAUSE I THINK MOST WOULD AGREE IT'S VERY NECESSARY TO HAVE SOME REPAIR DONE ON DANFORTH AT THIS POINT, RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'LL, IT'LL WORK IN VERY NICELY WITH THE INTERSECTION WORK GOING ON AT, UM, DANFORTH AND KELLY.
THAT SHOULD WRAP UP THIS SUMMER, AND SO THE CONSULTANTS WILL BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE IN TERMS OF, UH, IMPROVEMENT.
CHRISTIE, I SEE YOU BACK THERE NODDING.
IS THERE, IS THERE FROM A GRANT PERSPECTIVE OR ANYTHING THERE THAT YOU CAN ADD? SORRY, I'M JUST, JUST GONNA PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, UM, HANNAH SAID.
SO IN PARTICULAR, FOR THIS SS FOUR A, WHICH IS SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, YOU HAVE TO DO THE PLANNING PART AND THE DESIGN FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN GO AFTER ANY IMPLEMENTATION
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AND, AND WITH ODOT OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE GO AFTER WITH THOSE GRANTS, LIKE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS.SO TYPICALLY WE DO FEASIBILITY OR WE DO STUDIES, THEN WE DO DESIGN, AND THEN WE GO AFTER THE GRANTS.
DOES THAT ANSWER IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER? YES.
SO IT DE IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE GRANT.
AND BRAD, THESE ITEMS WERE IN THE BUDGET ALREADY.
WE'RE JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE, THE SELECTED VENDORS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.
ITEM NUMBER TWO C, CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
FOR TWO QUARTER SAFETY STUDIES FOR 420,000.
AND YES, SAME STORY, SAME GRANT PROGRAM.
THIS WILL BE OUR PHASE THREE AND FOUR.
UM, WE LUMP THESE TWO TOGETHER.
WE'VE GOT THE SAME CONSULTANT, KIMLEY HORN ON BOARD, AND THERE'S SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE THERE SINCE THEY'LL BE WORKING ON BOTH PROJECTS.
UM, UH, PHASE THREE IS BOULEVARD AND RANKIN FROM SECOND TO 33RD, NINTH AND 15TH FROM BROADWAY TO BRYANT.
KIND OF A HATCH MARK SITUATION.
THERE ALSO PORTIONS OF PINE OAK DRIVE.
THEY'LL BE TAKING A FOCUSED LOOK AT 15TH AND BRYANT AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THEN PHASE FOUR IS FRETZ FROM DANFORTH TO 15TH AND EDMOND ROAD FROM KELLY TO BROADWAY.
AND AGAIN, THEY'LL BE DOING A CLOSE LOOK AT KELLY AND EDMOND ROAD AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, KINLEY HORN WAS SELECTED AS A CONSULTANT.
THIS SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 16 MONTHS.
TAKE ANY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE.
WHY, WHY ARE WE RESTUDYING? WE'RE STUDYING 15TH AND BRYANT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES.
THAT IS ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PHASE THREE, THE GREEN ONE.
UM, IN OUR SS FOUR A AWARD, THERE IS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS.
AND, UM, WE HAVE TO DO PLANNING FOR THESE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE, THE GRANT WILL FUND CONSTRUCTION, SO IT'S THINGS THAT ARE TEMPORARY, SO PAINT, PLASTIC, DELINEATORS, UM, THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT BEFORE WE DO PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION.
AND 15TH, AND BRYANT WAS ONE OF THOSE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS IN THE GRANT.
I WILL SAY JUST, UM, OF NOTE, I HAD A, A MEETING WITH THE HEADMASTER AT OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, WHICH IS ON NINTH STREET THIS LAST WEEK.
AND, UH, HE ACTUALLY HAD DRAWN A VERY GOOD MAP, I THINK SHARED IT WITH SOME OF YOU ALL ON, UH, SOME OF THE, THE WIDENING AND, AND NARROWING OF NINTH STREET AND HOW THAT CAUSES PROBLEMS WITH LOAD LINES AND TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT THING.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS WELL TIMED.
I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY YES.
THAT ARE LOOKING FOR, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THIS 1, 1, 1 MORE QUESTION.
YOU SAID IT TAKES 16 MONTHS TO HAVE THIS STUDIES, THESE FOR THESE TWO STUDIES? YES.
MAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME.
SO THERE'S, UM, SEVERAL STAGES.
WE DO EXISTING CONDITIONS, SAFETY ANALYSIS, ALL OF THAT.
WE'LL DO SEVERAL ROUNDS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE'RE INFORMING FOLKS OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN, UM, THE CONSULTANTS WILL GO BACK, THEY'LL DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES, WE'LL, THEY'LL DO SOME MODELING, TRAFFIC MODELING, UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN, SAY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF SOME OF THESE SOLUTIONS THAT THE CONSULTANTS ARE RECOMMENDING? UM, AND THEN PUT TOGETHER A FINAL REPORT.
SO ON, ON BOTH OF THESE STUDIES MM-HMM
THE DELIVERABLE FROM THE, THE, THE FIRM IS A DETAILED ANALYSIS AND ACTION PLAN FOR THAT GOES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EX OF THE STREET OR ROAD, RIGHT? CORRECT.
WHERE THAT'S WALKWAY, YOU KNOW, CROSSWALKS, WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE MM-HMM
SIGNALING ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL, SO THAT'S THE EXPECTED DELIVERABLE? YES.
THERE'LL BE A, A REPORT DOCUMENT AND THEY'LL IDENTIFY SHORT RANGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, NEXT MONTH AND THEN LONGER TERM THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DO ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
THEY'RE NOT DELIVERING ANY KIND OF DESIGN WORK.
EXCEPT FOR THE, UM, WELL, NOT THESE CONSULTANTS, BUT EVENTUALLY WE WILL DO DESIGN ON THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS, BUT THAT'LL BE A SEPARATE THING WE'LL BRING TOWARDS YOU.
GOING BACK TO THE 16 MONTH TIMELINE MM-HMM
CAN YOU KIND OF DESCRIBE THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU SELECT THE CONSULTANT FOR THIS? AND
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I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE'S AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF WHAT, WHAT POOL OF CONSULTANTS YOU ARE CONSIDERING.SO, UH, WHENEVER WE GOT THE SS FOUR A GRANTS, WE HAD ALREADY AN ENGINEERING SHORT LIST OF QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS.
SO WE KIND OF KNEW WHAT THEIR PORTFOLIOS WERE, WHAT WORK THEY EXCELLED WITH.
WE INTERVIEWED FOR FOUR DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS FOR EACH OF THESE STUDIES OR ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.
AND THEN INTERVIEWED THE RESPONDERS AMONG THOSE THAT WE FELT WERE QUALIFIED.
UM, AND THEN WE WENT BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE ONE THAT WE THOUGHT DELIVERED THE BEST, UH, SALES PITCH TO US ON WHAT THEY COULD PROVIDE FOR EACH OF THESE CORRIDORS.
UH, SO THEN THEY WOULD PROVIDE A SCOPE OF SERVICES TO US.
WE WOULD SAY, UH, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE HERE, OR WE DON'T NEED THAT SERVICE.
SO WHAT YOU'VE GOT HERE TODAY IS AFTER SIX MONTHS OF INTERVIEWS, DELIBERATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CONSULTANTS TO, YOU KNOW, PIN DOWN A SCOPE AND FEE THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
AT, AT WHAT POINT DOES IT EVER SEEM LIKE IT BECOMES, UH, FEASIBLE FOR US TO DO SOME OF THESE STUDIES INTERNALLY? SO WE'RE LESS DEPENDENT UPON CONSULTANT SCHEDULES AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UH, WITH OUR CURRENT STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD EVER BE FEASIBLE WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY BALANCING.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS FOR US TO HIRE A CONSULTANT FOR, LIKE THE, UH, OVERLAY PROGRAM.
FOR AN EXAMPLE, WE KNOW MOST OF THE AREAS WHERE STREETS NEED TO BE OVERLAID, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE PAVEMENT CONDITION DATA THAT WE HAVE.
THESE STUDIES ARE MUCH, UH, WIDER IN SCOPE AND ARE MULTIDISCIPLINARY.
SO, UM, WE COLLABORATE WITH PLANNING A LOT, BUT THESE COMPANIES HAVE TEAMS ALREADY THAT WORK ON THESE EXACT TYPES OF STUDIES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE REGION THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAD THESE DELIVERABLES BEFORE.
SO IF, IF STAFF WERE TO TAKE IT ON, I THINK THAT 16 MONTHS WOULD EASILY BE DOUBLED OR TRIPLED FOR STAFF TRYING TO FIND THE TIME TO DO ALL THAT THESE CONSULTANTS WILL BE DOING FOR US.
I WANTED TO ASK, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY INCENTIVES TO BE ABLE TO SHORTEN THAT TIME? IS IT BECAUSE AS TIME PASSES, THE PROJECT COST GOES UP AND UP AND UP AND UP AND UP? YEAH, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD IF WE CAN GET 'EM TO AGREE TO THIS SCOPE OF SERVICES RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA INCREASE THE COST, UH, 10 MONTHS FROM NOW.
WHAT WE'RE LOCKING THEM IN FOR IS FOR THE WHOLE 16 MONTHS AT THIS RATE.
SO IT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE.
THERE'S WITH THE SS FOUR A, HOW LONG, WHAT'S THE, UH, TIMEFRAME THAT YOU HAVE? 2029.
SO WE HAVE UNTIL 2029, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FRONT LOAD IT BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, THE COSTS ARE LOWEST NOW.
SO TRYING TO GET ALL THESE STUDIES KICKED OFF, WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO KICK OFF ALL OF THE STUDIES AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE UH, BROADWAY CORRIDOR STUDY THAT'S BEEN ONGOING.
THAT ONE HAS SO MUCH IN IT THAT WE WANTED TO GET IT GOING AS FAST AS WE COULD.
EVEN WITH A CONSULTANT DOING IT, IT TAKES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME TO HAVE BIWEEKLY CHECK-INS WITH THEM, UH, ATTEND THE CITIZEN FEEDBACK EVENTS AND COLLABORATE.
SO, UH, WE TRIED TO BREAK 'EM UP A LITTLE BIT SO THEIR TIMELINES AREN'T ALL AT THE SAME TIME, SO AS TO OVERWHELM OUR ALREADY LIMITED STAFF.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE WANNA TRY TO GET THESE STUDIES GOING ON THE FRONT END SO THAT WHEN 2020 NINE'S HERE, WE CAN SAY, AH, WE ALREADY PAID FOR THAT AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RATE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS AND HIT THOSE AS SOON AS WE CAN TOO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ONE.
[A. Discussion and Consideration of Potential Update to the 2000 CIP Budget to Account for Required Grant Match for the Downtown Pedestrian Bridge Feasibility Study]
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FOR THE DOWNTOWN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE FEASIBILITY STUDY.CHRISTIE BATTERSON, MY TEAM OVERSEES, UM, OUR GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE CITY.
UM, YOU HAD ASKED, UH, BACK IN THE LATE FALL RIGHT BEFORE THE WINTER TIME TO BRING AN UPDATE ON THIS.
UM, SO I'M HERE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE BRIDGE.
UM, WE'RE CALLING IT THE BRIDGE TO EVERYWHERE.
UM, I KNOW IN HISTORICAL IT WAS CALLED THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.
UM, ORIGINALLY THIS PROJECT CAME UP IS BECAUSE WE MOVED OUR CITYLINK TRANSFER CENTER FROM DOWNTOWN AREA OR WHAT, WHAT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAIL YARD, UH, OR, UH, WHICH WAS AT MAIN STREET IN THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
WE MOVED IT SOUTH TO THIRD STREET.
AFTER WE DID THAT, WE REALIZED THAT PEOPLE HAD NO SAFE WAY OF TRAVELING FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UH, SECOND STREET EDMUND ROAD TO THAT NORTH SIDE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT A REGIONAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY OR RTA THAT POTENTIALLY DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE GONNA HAVE PASSENGER RAIL HERE IN THAT AREA DESIGNATED IN YOUR MAP THAT'S IN THE PROJECT IS THE TRANSPORTATION AREA.
SO POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE, NOT ONLY WILL IT HAVE OUR TRANSFER CENTER FOR CITYLINK, BUT IT COULD ALSO HAVE A RAIL RAIL PASSAGE, UM, CENTER AS WELL.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF ORIENT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE TRACK.
SO WHEN THIS GRANT CAME AVAILABLE, WE KNEW WE HAD TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF STUDY DONE.
UM, SOME TYPE OF DESIGN DONE SO THAT WHEN GRANTS LIKE THE BUILD GRANT FOR INSTANCE, IT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD HAVE SHOVEL READY INFORMATION THAT WE COULD PUT INTO A PROJECT AND APPLY FOR A GRANT DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, THIS GRANT CAME AVAILABLE THAT COVERS THE FEASIBILITY AND DESIGN OF THAT, AND KIMLEY HORNE HAS BEEN SELECTED TO FINISH THAT.
UM, POTENTIALLY, UH, THEY DID THE, UH, PAPERWORK FOR, UH, THE GRANT.
UM, AND SO, UM, OUR MATCH, UM, FOR THE 404,000 IS AROUND 80,000.
UM, WE WILL GET THE GRANT DOCUMENTS HERE IN JUNE, AND SO THAT'S WHEN OUR EXPECTED PAYMENT WILL BE DUE AS WELL.
SO I NOTE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS, UM, ABOUT THIS ONE ALREADY.
UM, THESE DOLLARS ARE ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
I THINK THEY WERE FIRST PUT IN BACK IN 2024.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT, AT THIS PLAN.
UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT QUESTIONS OR CONVERSATION ARE WE HAVING ON THIS ONE? WELL, IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME TO, UM, GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY TO THIS.
BACK WHEN ROB AND I SAT ON THE EEDA IN 2006, THIS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF THE REGIONAL TRANSIT CENTER.
UM, THERE'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE TO BE APPROPRIATED BEFORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENS.
AND IT HAS TO COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO BY MY COUNT, BY MY MATH, THAT'S MORE THAN AT LEAST 20 YEARS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED.
UM, IN THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, 12 YEARS, WE'VE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO A BIT OF A HOLE HERE IN EDMOND AND WE'RE TRYING TO DIG OUT OF SOME FINANCIAL WORRIES THAT WE HAVE.
SO IN MY MIND, WE HAVE NEEDS AND WE HAVE WANTS, AND THE BRIDGE IS A WANT AND NOT A NEED, AND WE CAN FILL A LOT OF POTHOLES FOR $80,000.
UM, THIS IS JUST A STUDY, SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH THE BREAD, THE BRIDGE ITSELF WOULD BE.
UM, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HAVING JUST RELOCATED THE TRANSFER CENTER, WE RELOCATED IT.
I BELIEVE PART OF THE REASON WAS BECAUSE WE LEASED LAND IN THE FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE TO ALLOW A DEVELOPER TO PUT, UM, A BAR.
UH, AND IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH PARKS, IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED THROUGH PARKS.
BUT THAT LEASE, UM, WHEN IT CAME UP FOR RENEWAL BECAUSE NOTHING HAD BEEN DONE, THAT LEASE WAS NOT RENEWED.
AND SO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING REQUIRING US TO HAVE PEOPLE WALKING UNSAFELY.
UH, WHERE IT WAS BEFORE WAS REALLY KIND OF AROUND WHERE THE FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE WAS.
AND SO IN MY OPINION, THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY SPEND THAT WE DO NOT NEED AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, FORWARD, BE FORWARD THINKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
OUR CITIZENS HAVE JUST TOLD US THEY WANT THEIR MONEY SPENT ON TRANSPORTATION AND ROADS.
AND UM, SO THAT'S MY DIATRIBE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY THAT.
BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE ONE OF PROCEDURE.
ARE WE MOVING THIS FROM THE 2017
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CIP? BECAUSE THE WAY THIS IS WORDED, IT SAYS TO ACCOUNT FOR A REQUIRED GRANT MATCH AND AN UPDATE TO THE BUDGET.BUT SO ARE WE MOVING IT FROM 2017 FUNDS TO 2000 FUNDS? I THINK IT WAS ALWAYS COMING OUT OF, CORRECT ME, BRAD, IT WAS ALWAYS COMING OUT OF THE 2000, I THINK IT'S BEEN IN THE 2000 YEAH.
I, I THINK THE, THE, THE UPDATE WAS COMING BACK AND GIVING AN UPDATE TO YOU ALL.
I THINK THAT THE CONSIDERATION WAS THE, THE GRANT HAD BEEN AWARDED AND SO CORRECT.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST WORDED ODD BECAUSE IT SAYS CONSIDERATION OF POTENTIAL UPDATE TO THE CIP TO THE 2000 CIP BUDGET.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MOVE THINGS AROUND AND PLAY A SHELL GAME HERE.
WE'RE REMOVING THINGS FROM 2017 TO 2000.
WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THERE WAS AN UPDATE REQUESTED BY THIS BOARD.
SO THAT WAS MY PROCEDURAL QUESTION THERE.
THE REST OF MY COMMENTS STAND.
AND CAN I ADDRESS THE CITYLINK? SO I ALSO OVERSEE CITYLINK.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MOVED AWAY FROM THE FESTIVAL MARKET WAS MY BUSES WERE CONSISTENTLY GETTING HIT BECAUSE APPARENTLY BIG GOLD BUSES AREN'T, CAN'T BE SEEN.
AND ALSO THERE WAS A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE.
WE FELT MOVING IT SOUTH, UM, TO THAT AREA.
THAT'S PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS WAS THE BUS COURSE OF ACTION FOR THAT.
UM, AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA WAS ASKED TO HAVE THAT PARKING BACK.
'CAUSE WE TOOK THAT WHOLE, ALMOST THAT WHOLE ENTIRE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THAT PARKING LOT.
AND SO IT WAS KIND OF REQUESTED FROM US TO KIND OF MOVE AWAY FROM THAT AREA WHERE THE BUSES ARE.
I HAD SEVEN BUSES COMING THROUGH EVERY 30 MINUTES FOR 12 HOURS A DAY.
SO IT WAS A COMPETITION BETWEEN PARKING THERE AND THEN MOVING TO THE SOUTH.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MOVED IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION.
THE SQUARE BOX THAT IS INDICATED ON THE MAP, IS THAT THE ONLY LOCATION THAT WILL BE STUDIED FOR FEASIBILITY OF A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE? DOES IT HAVE TO BE DOWNTOWN? CAN IT BE OTHER PLACES? THAT IS THE MAIN FOCUS IS AROUND RIGHT NOW WHERE OUR TRANSFER CENTER OR ON, EVEN ON THE WEST SIDE, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY GONNA BE THAT WHOLE KIND OF AREA.
UM, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE PUT THE GRANT APPLICATION BACK TO THE BRIDGE TO KNOW WHERE THOUGHT PROCESS BACK IN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WAS THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GO.
BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON ELEVATION.
UH, WE, UH, UM, SHARE IT RIGHT AWAY OR HAVE RIGHT AWAY IN THAT AREA, UH, ALREADY.
SO IT'S REALLY, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GO, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST AREA.
AND THAT WOULD, THEY WOULD ALSO SAY IF IT HAD EVEN FEASIBLE IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE GRADE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WELL, AND I RECALL CONVERS FOLLOW UP IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECALL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, BRIDGES INTO THE DOWNTOWN PROPER AREA BECAUSE OF THE AT LEVEL RAILROAD CROSSINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ONE OF THE STUDIES THAT WE JUST, UH, APPROVED, UH, TRYING TO, TO, OR I'M SORRY, ONE OF THE AGREEMENTS FOR THE CONSULTANT THAT WE JUST RECOMMENDED IS LOOKING AT THAT CORRIDOR ON 15TH STREET BETWEEN BOULEVARD AND BRYANT MM-HMM
AND I CAN TELL YOU IF THERE WAS EVER A PLACE IN THE CITY OF EDMOND THAT NEEDED A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, IT'S IN FRONT OF EDMOND MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I MEAN, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, UH, MORNING, AFTERNOON, NIGHT WHEN THERE'S ACTIVITY AND THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET ACROSS THERE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAINLY HIGH SCHOOLERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION IS ARE WE SO LIMITED INTO THIS VERY SPECIFIC SPOT OR IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, WHAT OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY OF EDMOND MAKE SENSE TO LOOK AT AND STUDY? RIGHT.
SO FOR THIS IN PARTICULAR, THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, PARTICULAR IT IS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
IT'S ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE FROM THE WHAT SOUTH OF EDMUND SECOND STREET OVER TO THE NORTH SIDE, UM, AS CORRIDORS THAT YOU'RE MENTION CORRIDOR STUDIES THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING.
UM, THE BROADWAY EDMUND ROAD SECOND STREET CORRIDOR STUDY THAT IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW IS SHOWING THAT POTENTIALLY THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE IT DESIGNATED OR OUTLINED NOW IS ACTUALLY GONNA MOVE A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH TO INCLUDE FIFTH STREET AND NINTH STREET.
SO IT'S ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OR THE SOUTH AREA OF DOWNTOWN INTO THE CENTRAL CORE PART OF DOWNTOWN SAFELY.
I WOULD THINK, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER FEASIBILITY STUDIES, BUT I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE 15TH STREET, UM, AREA AS WELL.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS A SAFETY ORIENT THAT GRANT IS SAFETY ORIENTED.
CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT THAT'S INTERESTED IN BEING SHARED.
I KNOW THERE, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT I THINK ARE HERE TO, TO COMMENT ON KRISTY, CAN I, YEAH.
I, I MYSELF HAVE NEVER BEEN A PEDESTRIAN AT THIS AREA.
SO CAN YOU JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE, THE BARRIERS THAT THE, THE
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CUSTOMERS ARE, ARE EXPERIENCING WE WERE THINKING OF? UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT.SO WHEN THIS ORIGINALLY PROJECT WAS PUT TOGETHER, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR STUDY.
WE WERE JUST STARTING, WE JUST RECEIVED THE SS FOUR A GRANT AS WELL.
WE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE A COMPONENT.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK FROM UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER OR FROM UM, THINGS DOWNTOWN AND NEEDED TO GRAB THE BUS OR THEY'RE WALKING.
UM, THE SIDEWALKS UNFORTUNATELY AT BROADWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO CROSS BROADWAY IN SECOND.
I'VE DONE IT WALKING BACK AND FORTH FROM OUR OFFICES HERE TO MY CITY CITYLINK OPERATIONS OFFICE AS WELL AS PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR BRIDGE.
WE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE WALKING ON THE RAILROAD BRIDGE TRYING TO GET OVER TO THE BUS SYSTEM.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS WHY WE THOUGHT, WELL WE HAVE THIS GRANT, IT ALIGNS WITH THE GRANT, SO LET'S DO THIS FEASIBILITY AND SEE IF THIS IS EVEN A PROJECT THAT WE WOULD GO DOWN THE ROAD WITH.
IT'S NOT IN OUR FORECAST THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT A BRIDGE HERE OR EVER.
IT'S JUST, IT HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, ESPECIALLY SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING AROUND WITH RAILROADS, UM, OR WALKING ON THE RAILROAD.
AND SO TRYING TO JUST GET PEOPLE SAFE FROM THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE ICE HOUSE AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT DO RIDE OUR CITY LINK SYSTEM THAT, THAT YOU KNOW, GO TO THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA AS WELL AS CONDUCT BUSINESS BUSINESS WITH CITY HALL.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH BEYOND THE BRIDGE, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES.
IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THE AREA WHERE THE CITY LINK IS NOW? SO THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE FOR EVENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING? SO RIGHT NOW, UM, WE DO OWN CITY OWNS PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.
OUR MAINTENANCE YARD IS THERE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
AND IF YOU SEE WHERE THE BOX IS DRAWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EDMOND ROAD, THAT'S ACTUALLY MY MAINTENANCE YARD.
SO IT WOULD ALSO TAKE ACCOUNT, DO WE NEED TO MOVE OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITY, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY BECAUSE WE DO KNOW RTA COMING IN, WE MAY NEED TO MOVE THE MAINTENANCE YARD TO THE SOUTH SIDE.
THE CITY OWNS TWO PARKING LOTS.
ONE IS THE TRANSFER CENTER, WHICH WE DON'T ALLOW PARKING UNLESS YOU'RE PARK AND RIDE DURING THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, AND MAINLY FOR THE SAFETY OF PASSENGERS AND OUR BUSES.
UM, AND THEN THE CITY IS UTILIZING ANOTHER LOT RIGHT NOW FOR CITY VEHICLES.
I WOULD THINK THAT THIS FEASIBILITY WOULD SHOW THAT WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THIS AREA OR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME DESIGN DRAWINGS WITH RTA COMING THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATED OR HAVE BEEN SEEN AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH THE PUBLIC THAT THERE WOULD BE PARKING IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND SO IT'S JUST THIS WOULD JUST ADD TO ALL OF THAT AND PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE GET DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SIDE AND WHEN RTA OR EVEN THE EXPANSION OF TRANSIT.
BUT CURRENTLY THERE ISN'T, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, WHEN IN THE STUDY OR ON AT THAT INTERSECTION, ARE THERE THE CROSSING LIGHTS AND THE BUTTONS YOU PUSHED TO CROSS AND THE WALKWAYS? YEAH, WE, THERE ARE UH, PET BUTTONS THERE AND ALL PETS.
THAT RIGHT AT THAT THING AT BROADWAY AND YEAH.
AT BROADWAY AND EDMUND ROAD SECOND STREET.
SO IS THERE ANY PART OF THE STUDY THAT STUDIES HOW TO JUST MAKE THAT PART? I THINK, I THINK THE FEASIBILITY SHOWED A LITTLE, THE CORRIDOR.
I'M LOOKING BACK AT HANNAH, THE CORRIDOR STUDY THAT YOU PROBABLY WILL BE HEARING ABOUT SOON DID SHOW SOME OF THAT.
UM, I'M TRYING TO, THERE'S TOO MANY THINGS GOING ON.
I, I THINK THAT DID, THERE WERE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND I KNOW AROUND THIRD STREET, UH, WHICH IS WHERE THE, THE CITY LINKS TRANSFER CENTER IS LOCATED AT.
THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE AS WELL.
SO THAT AREA THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF DISCUSSION OF, TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FOR SAFETY IN THAT AREA.
NOT JUST FOR PEDESTRIANS BUT FOR CARS AS WELL.
NOT IN THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS ONE.
THEY'RE, WHOEVER DOES TAKE THIS PROJECT ON, WHETHER IT BE KIMLEY, HORNE OR WHOEVER, THEY'RE GONNA INCORPORATE ALL OUR STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE INCLUDING EDMUND SHIFT AND, AND THE CORRIDOR STUDIES AND ALL THAT, ALL THOSE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, THEY'LL INCORPORATE ALL THAT FINDINGS.
YEAH, I THINK CHRIS ARE YOU YEAH, I HAD A COUPLE.
ONE OF 'EM YOU, YOU JUST KIND OF ANSWERED.
SO THERE'S ALSO POTENTIALLY THINGS THAT WE COULD DO AND THEN WE WOULD FIND OUT IN ONE OF THESE STUDIES THAT IS THE BRIDGE REALLY NEEDED OR IS BETTER TRAFFIC CROSSING? LIKE, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE ANYWAY.
SO IF YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE, THEN YOU'RE JUST BEHIND EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.
AND THEN HOW DOES THIS ALIGN WITH PROJECTED STOPS FOR THE RTA? 'CAUSE I FELT LIKE I HAD HEARD ABOUT IT BEING AT 33RD AND THEN COVE SO WELL, RIGHT.
WELL COVE, NOT THAT TO MY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THOSE MEETINGS THAT ARE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE'LL HAVE AN END
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OF RUN, WHICH WOULD BE FURTHER NORTH.UM, I DON'T THINK COBELL WAS AT, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH FURTHER PAST THAT.
UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SAID THAT WE NEEDED A DOWNTOWN ONE.
UM, AND SO THIS AREA, UM, AND ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE, THIS IS THE AREA, WHETHER IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE, IT JUST DEPENDS ON, ON, UM, THE AMOUNT OF AREA NEEDED.
UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN SHOWN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE TRACKS VERSUS THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE, UH, THE TRANSIT CENTER IS AND WHERE MY MAINTENANCE YARD IS.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE SOUTH PART OF EDMOND, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL STOP, BUT THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE.
I THINK THE MAIN ONE WOULD HAPPEN FIRST AND THEN THE END OF RUNS.
UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION TOO.
BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT, UM, DOWNTOWN EXPANDING KIND OF INTO THE STEVENSON PARK, KIND OF THAT AREA.
SO IT WOULD MAKE, IF YOU GET PEOPLE OVER WHERE YOU'RE PROJECTING THIS BRIDGE, THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS OF UM, THE FEASIBILITY OF UM, IF YOU HAVE A RAIL SYSTEM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE HOW DO YOU COORDINATE ALL OF THAT? 'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET 'EM ACROSS ONE WAY AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE STUCK THERE.
AND I IMAGINE THE REASON WHY, UH, MR. JORDAN IS BEHIND ME, UM, IS, UH, TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE TRACKS, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR THAT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S TRACKS OF LAND OVER THERE THAT DEVELOPERS LOOK AT AND DEVELOPING MIXED USE TYPE OF LIVING.
SO A WORK, LIVE PLAY TYPE OF SCENARIO.
UM, WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO GET PEOPLE FROM THAT SIDE OVER TO LIKE THE ICE HOUSE, TO THE RAIL YARD TO OTHER AREAS DOWNTOWN.
SO YOU'RE CORRECT, THERE'S ANOTHER HURDLE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COME DOWN THE ROAD THAT WOULD, WE'D WANNA GET THOSE PEOPLE FROM THIS SIDE OVER.
AND MY LAST ONE IS, HOW LONG IS THE STUDY GENERALLY GOOD FOR? UM, WE ORIGINALLY GOT THIS, UH, WE PUT THIS PROJECT TOGETHER IN 2024.
UM, ONCE WE GET THE STUDY DONE, THEN WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD LINE UP TO, UM, WE WOULD JUST UPDATE IT LIKE IF WE HELD IT FOR SO MANY YEARS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES.
WE WOULD JUST DO UPDATED COSTS AND SEE IF THERE ANYTHING NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE NEXT GRANT THAT WE WOULD GO AFTER.
'CAUSE THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT GET BILLED WITHOUT A GRANT.
DIDN'T THEY DO A STUDY IN 2006 TOO? FOR THIS SPREAD IN PARTICULAR? MM-HMM
MM-HMM
UM, AND WE FOR 20 YEARS NEVER GOT MONEY FOR RTA.
SO THIS ISN'T RTA MONEY, THIS IS THE CITY OF EDMOND'S MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD, AND MR INS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DO NOT THINK I HAVE HEARD WHERE RTA IS GONNA BE PUTTING A BRIDGE IN, UM, THE, THE WORK THAT THEY'RE FOR PEDESTRIANS, THE WORK THAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING FOR RTA IS FOR TRACK AND PASSENGER RAIL.
UM, BUT THERE'S OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
EVEN TRANSIT'S GONNA HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSION.
THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH RTA BECAUSE IT'S THE END OF THE MILE.
IT'S THAT LAST MILE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
AND SO, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED SOMEWHAT WITH RTA, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT DOING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WITH THAT FUNDING.
BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE KEEP HEARING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE BRIDGE IS BECAUSE WE'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RAIL OR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT HASN'T MATERIALIZED FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT SETS US UP FOR RTA.
I MEAN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RTA FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN A A, A PARTNER AND RTA FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
HOW MANY CITIES HAVE DROPPED OUT AT THE RTA AT THIS POINT? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT AND I DON'T YEAH.
I I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THERE PARKING RIGHT NOW ACROSS THAT WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS FOR PARKING? AS FAR AS OVER AT THE RAIL YARD OVER NO PARKING ON THE WEST, PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE BRIDGE, THE SOUTH? YEAH, THE, THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE TRANSFER CENTER IS AT.
SO WE, IF PEOPLE GET OFF AT THE TRANSFER CENTER AT THIRD AND BROADWAY, THEY HAVE TO WALK UP BROADWAY TO GET ACROSS TO GO INTO DOWNTOWN.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS THERE PARKING ACROSS THERE RIGHT NOW? A, A PARKING LOT? SO THE CITY, THE TRANSFER CENTER IS NOT UTILIZED AS A PARKING LOT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 AM AND 7:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY BECAUSE IT'S TRANSFER CENTER ONLY.
I'VE GOT SEVEN BUSES GOING THROUGH THERE, SO I CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE PARKING IN THAT PARKING LOT.
'CAUSE WE TAKE THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT PARK THERE, BUT THEY'RE USING THE 100 X THAT GOES DOWN TWICE A DAY.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REALLY PUBLIC PARKING AFTER HOURS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING
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THERE AFTER THE 7:00 PM AND UTILIZING THAT PARKING LOT.AND RIGHT ALONG THERE, LIKE FROM SECOND TO THIRD, RIGHT ALONG THERE.
THERE'S THE TRANSFER CENTER THAT WE JUST MOVED A YEAR AGO MAYBE, UH, TWO YEARS AGO.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE LIKE MOBILE MILLS THERE.
JUST MOBILE MILL IS LOCATED AT 25 WEST THIRD THAT THE CITY JUST PUT SOME MONEY INTO TO GET THAT MA'AM BUILDING APPROVED AND UPDATED.
SO WE'VE JUST BEEN SPENDING MONEY AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, BUT THEN WE'LL TEAR DOWN EVERYTHING WE'VE JUST BUILT.
THERE'S NO TALK ABOUT TEARING DOWN MOBILE MEALS.
UM, I'VE BEEN PRETTY, I KIND OF OVERSAW THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, SPENT A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN THAT AND I DON'T FORESEE US MOVING THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S A VITAL SERVICE NOT ONLY TO OUR RESIDENTS IN EDMOND, BUT ALSO TO OUR SENIOR CENTER.
SO THERE'S BEEN NO TALK OF TEARING DOWN EDMOND MOBILE MEALS.
MR. JORDAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE?
SHERRY JORDAN, I'M THE CEO FOR THE EDMOND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ALSO LIVE DOWN HERE.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALL PROBABLY SEEN ME.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO REMIND YOU GUYS ABOUT WAS THE ULI STUDY THAT WAS DONE ON DOWNTOWN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
THE CHAMBER, THE CITY U-C-O-E-E-D-A, WE ALL WENT IN TOGETHER AND PAID FOR THIS VERY EXPENSIVE STUDY OF DOWNTOWN.
WHAT THE ONLY PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THEY RECOMMENDED WAS, UM, DOWN, UM, NEAR UCO WHERE, UH, YOU CROSS SECOND STREET OVER TO SECOND STREET OVER TO FINK PARK.
A LOT OF STUDENTS PARK IN FINK PARK, WALK OVER TO UCO.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, THE ONLY RECENT, UM, PEDESTRIAN FAT FATALITY I KNOW OF HAPPENED RIGHT THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION LAST SUMMER.
UM, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE GOING ON OUR MORNING WALK ON SATURDAY MORNING, WE COME UP THE TRAIL FROM PINK PARK AND THERE'S A BODY IN, IN, IN SECOND STREET LAYING THERE.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T FORGET WE HAVE A ULI STUDY THAT WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR IN DOWNTOWN EVAN AND MAYBE IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT THAT STUDY AGAIN AND SEE WHAT IT SAID BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY ON SOME OTHER THINGS.
A LITTLE PERSONAL, A LITTLE BUSINESS.
WHAT, WHAT DID THE ULI STUDY SUGGEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPOT? DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL THE SPOT BY THE RAILROADS? YES.
IT DID NOT RECOMMEND PUTTING A BRIDGE THERE.
DID IT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE? 'CAUSE IT IS, IT'S NOT EASY.
SO DID THEY HAVE ANYTHING ON HEY, GET CROSSWALKS THAT STOP ALL TRAFFIC SO EVERYBODY CAN GO AT THE SAME TIME? I MEAN, DO YOU I BELIEVE IT DID.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFICS ON THAT.
BRAD, I'LL ASK A A LITTLE BIT OF A PROCEDURAL QUESTION, BUT THIS IS IN THE BUDGET, WHICH HAS GONE TO COUNSEL AND BEEN APPROVED.
SO ANY ACTION WE TAKE HERE IS A RECOMMENDATION.
RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING? YEAH, I SUPPOSE SO.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT, UM, COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION THAT'S TIED TO THIS GRANT.
SO IT ALREADY HAS A RESOLUTION.
WHAT OTHER DISCUSSION? SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF, IF SOMEONE WERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND TO, TO RECOMMEND THE COUNSEL RESCIND, IT'S, WOULD THAT BE THE PROPER LANGUAGE? IT'S FOR PREVIOUS ACTION.
I, THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN, I, I THINK WE WOULD JUST VOTE NO TO UPDATING THE BUDGET IF THAT WERE THE DECISION.
AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A AGENDA ITEM THAT WOULD BE A VOTE TO RESEND, TO RECOMMEND RESING TO RECOMMEND RESENDING, I THINK WITH HOW THIS IS WRITTEN.
SO THE MOTION TODAY WOULD BE TO, TO UPDATE THE BUDGET? YEAH, IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT THEN IF, IF THE, IF IT DOES NOT PASS SHOWS, NO, THEN THE NEXT MEETING WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT ITEM TO RECOMMEND RESENDING.
SO THE WAY IT LOOKS ON THE LAST ITEM, THE ACTION NEEDED WAS MOTION TO APPROVE ON THIS ONE, THE ACTION ITEM IS NA.
SO I DON'T EVEN SEE THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS MORE A DISCUSSION TO LET US KNOW THAT THE DOLLARS WERE BEING MOVED FROM ONE PART.
I KNOW THAT ANY OF THESE ITEMS UNDER NUMBER THREE HAVE ACTIONS ON THEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? DIDN'T, DIDN'T BRUSH UP ON MY RULES IS THAT WE CAN'T, IT WAS ON, IT WAS ON OUR AGENDA A FEW MONTHS AGO TO VOTE UHHUH AND THEN WE TABLED IT AND THEN WE MOVED IT AGAIN AND NOW IT'S UP ON THIS MONTH.
SO IT WAS ON THERE TO VOTE? YEAH.
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WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A VOTE FROM THE, THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS DISCUSSION AND CONSENT.SOME, SOMETIMES SOME OF THOSE FIELDS MAY GET MISFILLED.
I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT PUT TOGETHER SOME OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS, SO SOMETIMES THERE'S ERRORS AND OMISSIONS, BUT, WELL, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN SOME RTA QUESTIONS, UM, AND OTHERS, ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN SPEAK TO THAT HERE? SO I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA FROM NOVEMBER 18TH AND IT ALSO HAD A NA AS A ACTION NEEDED.
I'M JUST TRYING TO CONFIRM THIS IS THE SAME ISSUE.
I JUST DON'T, AND THIS IS GREAT TO, I THINK WAS THE FIRST TIME UNDER ACTION NEEDED ITEM.
I'M THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE, UH, LIGHT RAIL OR COMMUTER RAIL BETWEEN OKLAHOMA CITY AND EDMONDS SINCE 2006.
SO THAT GIVES YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE THERE.
UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WAS LATE TO THE MEETING SO I DIDN'T GET TO HEAR ALL THE DISCUSSION.
BUT WERE THERE A SPECIFIC CONVERSATION ABOUT RTA THAT YOU NEED AN ANSWER TO? I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE AROUND, DO WE KNOW WHERE RTA WANTS TO PUT THE TRANSFER STATION OR, OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? DO WE HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT? THEY'VE HAD, THEY HAVE TWO STATIONS IN EDMOND PLANT.
UH, THEY'RE A PART OF THEIR PLAN AND THEIR MODELING THAT THEY'RE DOING.
UH, THIRD STREET, SOUTH OF SECOND STREET ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACK IS THE, THE ONE FOR DOWNTOWN.
SO THAT IS WHAT'S BEING MODELED RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE NORTH, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SO OF MILL.
SO THAT'S THE END OF THE LINE STATION.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR, OR DISCUSSION, I CAN, I CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I WAS JUST DISCUSSING WITH SANDY 'CAUSE THE WORDING GOT CHANGED ON THIS AFTER OUR LEGAL TEAM REVIEWED IT BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSION WORD.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS MOVED FROM THE TWOS TO THE THREES.
BUT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE A VOTING ITEM.
IT DOES SAY DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION, CORRECT? YEAH.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MOTION? THE MOTION WOULD BE TO UPDATE THE CI THE 2000 CIP BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REQUIRED GRANT MATCH.
ARE WE READY? SO WE HAVE, SO WE DO HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO WE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOGGING IT AND SO MY VOTE IS IN NO WAY REFLECTIVE OF THE, THE RESPECT THAT I HAVE FOR THE, THE JOB YOU'VE DONE.
IT'S MERELY, AS I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON ROADS THROUGH THE DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS ANSWERS HERE TODAY.
I'VE SEEN NOTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY PROJECT.
AND SO I'LL BE VOTING NO CHAIR.
I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND, UH, A MOTION WAS MADE TO MAKE AN UPDATE.
SO AN APPROVAL WOULD BE THAT WE AREN'T EDITING OR AMENDING A PREVIOUS THAT WE'RE YEAH.
MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO EDIT A PREVIOUS RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION, CORRECT.
AND SO MOTIONS ARE ALWAYS MADE IN THE POSITIVE, RIGHT? IF I'M CORRECT.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT YES, WE ARE, WE ARE MOTIONING TO AMEND IT.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE VOTING THANK YOU FOR OR AGAINST THAT MOTION.
SO THEN WHAT DOES A NO VOTE DO? SORRY, I JUST, I LIKE, DOES IT KEEP THE FUND IF WE WERE TO SAY NO TO IT AND COUNCIL ORDER TO ADOPT THAT AS WELL, DOES THAT KEEP THE FUNDS IN THE PREVIOUS CIP? SO, SO THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING IT, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME UP HERE.
I WAS IN THAT SEAT LAST TIME, SO YOU'RE GREAT.
SO THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING IT, A NO VOTE WOULD THEN LEAD TO, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ITEM IN THE NEXT MEETING OF WANTING TO OFFICIALLY REMOVE THIS FROM THE BUDGET.
I THINK IT WAS TENTATIVELY BUDGETED FOR IN FUTURE BUDGET YEARS.
WHENEVER WE HAD DONE WHAT, 2024 OR WHENEVER IT WAS WHENEVER WE HAD DONE THE GRANT APPLICATION.
SO DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OF POTENTIAL UPDATE TO ACCOUNT FOR REQUIRED GRANT GRANT MATCH.
SO YOU WOULD BE VOTING NO THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO UPDATE THE BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REQUIRED GRANT MATCH.
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SO THEN YEAH, I, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.AND THEN IT, AFTER THE MEETING, I CAN GET WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM TO SEE WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO MAKE THINGS CRYSTAL CLEAR, CLEAR ENOUGH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, LET'S CAST VOTES FOR THIS ONE WHEN IT COMES UP.
[B. Discussion and Consideration of Potential Update to the 2000 CIP Budget to Account for Required Grant Match for the Vista Lane-Kickingbird Rd Connector]
ITEM THREE B.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE BEFORE.
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A POTENTIAL UPDATE TO THE 2000 CIP BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REQUIRED GRANT MATCH FOR THE VISTA LANE KICKING BIRD CONNECTOR.
SO THIS ONE IS, CAN YOU PULL THE MAP UP? I'M SORRY.
I WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE GRANT, SO AGAIN, WE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE OTHER GRANT.
UM, CURRENTLY WE ALREADY HAVE TWO ONGOING PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE VISTA LANE, THE ONE THAT IS KICKING BIRD, UH, THAT'S THAT YELLOW AREA TO THE NORTH, UH, BETWEEN BRYANT AND BASICALLY UNCOMMON GROUND AREA.
UM, THAT ONE'S PROJECT IS, UM, IN THE WORKS AND SHOULD BE LETTING SOON.
THAT CONTINUES THE BIKE LANE ALONG AIRS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE SOUTH PART, WHICH IS SOUTH OF EDMOND, I'M SORRY, SECOND STREET, WHICH IS VISTA LANE.
THE GREEN, THAT GREEN, UM, LINE, THAT IS ALSO AN ONGOING PROJECT THAT IS GETTING READY TO LET, WE JUST PAID OUR PORTION TO ODOT SO IT'S GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO BID.
AND SO WE DIS WE DISCUSSED IT'S PART OF EDMOND SHIFT OF THE CONNECTIVITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN, UM, GETTING POINT PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B IS SAFELY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, THIS WAS A PART WHICH IS OUTLINED IN A RED BOX BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, PROPOSED TRAIL CONNECTION THAT WOULD CONNECT THESE TWO TOGETHER.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE APPLIED FOR A MAX OF 1.2 MILLION WITH THE CITY'S, UH, MATCH.
I'M SORRY, 1.2 WOULD BE THE PRO MILLION WOULD BE THE PROJECT MAX, AND THEN OUR PORTION WOULD BE 420,000.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.
THIS ONE ALSO IS A SIM SIMILAR.
WE SHOULD BE GETTING THE AWARD LETTER WE'VE BEEN AWARDED.
WE SHOULD BE GETTING THE, UM, FINAL AGREEMENT HERE SHORTLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND YOU ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED THIS, THIS, AND THERE WAS A RESOLUTION TIED TO IT.
AND SAME, SAME SCENARIOS BEFORE, JUST DIFFERENT PROJECT.
SO MY, WAS THERE A STUDY DONE ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CROSSING HERE OR BIKES OR APARTMENTS OR, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UH, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, IT'S, IT'S THE CONNECTIVITY IN THE TRAIL SYSTEM OF WHAT WE DO WHEN WE GO AFTER PROJECTS.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH TRAILS, IT'S GETTING PEOPLE, UM, NOT SAFETY IS IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY GETTING WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN TRAVEL THROUGHOUT EDMOND ON TRAILS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR EITHER BIKING OR WALKING OR, OR JUST GETTING TO WORK OR SCHOOL OR WHEREVER.
SO EDMOND SHIFT IS OUR MULTIMODAL PLAN THAT WE KEEP REFERRING BACK TO BECAUSE ALL OF OUR PLANS THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS ARE INCORPORATED IN THAT.
AND THAT HAD ED, YOU KNOW, EDMOND OUTREACH OR CITIZEN OUTREACH AND FEEDBACK WITH THAT AND THERE WAS A WHOLE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, UM, WITH THAT.
AND SO PRIORITIES WERE GIVEN AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAILS IS A HIGH PRIORITY TO FOLKS HERE IN EDMOND.
SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.
CAN YOU HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHERE VISTA LANE IS? OKAY.
UM, THERE'S A STOPLIGHT THERE.
SO RIGHT VISTA LANE IS, UM, YOU SEE WHERE THE GREEN LINE IS? MM-HMM
SO THE RED THICK DASHED LINE IS EDMOND ROAD OR SECOND STREET.
I KEEP CALLING IT EDMOND ROAD, SORRY, SECOND STREET.
LEGEND V OR LEGEND FIVE IS THERE TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S A GAS STATION THERE ON THAT CORNER AND I THINK THERE'S A NURSERY THERE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
AND COMMON GROUND IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
I DO USE THE, THE TRAIL SYSTEM FAIRLY REGULARLY, UM, BOTH RUNNING AND AND BIKING WITH MY KIDS.
AND SO THE IDEA TO CONNECT AND HAVE HAVE AREA FROM UCO BACK DOWN THINGS IS TO ER PARK IS, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND, AND WE USE THAT.
SO I WOULD, I I LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS TRAIL.
WHEN YOU SAID UNCOMMON GROUND, WHERE DOES THAT CONNECT INTO THAT UNCOMMON GROUND PARK RIGHT NOW? THERE WHEN WE PUT THE APPLICATION TOGETHER, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T SAY
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THAT THERE WILL BE A CONNECTION INTO UNCOMMON GROUND.UM, IT'LL RUN RIGHT TO THE WEST OF WHAT IS UNCOMMON GROUND.
MAYBE A DIFFICULT QUESTION, BUT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION? THAT IS NOT MY CALL.
UM, SO THERE IS A CREEK THAT HAS TO BE CROSSED THERE.
UH, THERE'S A BRIDGE THAT LOT TO BE PUT IN.
IT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED YET, BUT THERE IS A DESIRE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH, UH, THE CURRENT OWNER OF UNCOMMON GROUND AND THEN THE CITY TO CONNECT VISTA LANE TO THE NORTH.
SO HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE A BRIDGE THERE THAT CONNECTS OTHER QUESTIONS HERE.
SOUNDS LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I'M GONNA BE VOTING NO ON THIS AS WELL.
I, I KNOW THAT WHEN THE RIBBON CUTTING WAS HELD A WEEK OR SO AGO ON ANOTHER TRAIL THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED AND IT WAS POSTED TO FACEBOOK, MANY IF NOT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE COMMENTED, WERE OPPOSED TO THE, THAT TRAIL.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THAT THE NATURAL HABITAT WAS, WAS DESTROYED.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE COST AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT MONEY WAS DIVERTED AWAY FROM ROADS AND STREETS.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M, AGAIN, I, I LOVE TRAILS AND I LOVE RIDING MY BIKE AND I I LOVE ALL THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE RECENT SALES TAX BOAT THAT HAPPENED AND IT'S FOUR ROADS, AND RIGHT NOW THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND SEEM TO BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF EDMOND.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR A LONG TIME.
I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT THE EEDA AND THE CHAMBER AND SOME FOLKS PITCHED IN TOGETHER TO GET THE STUDY FOR DOWNTOWN, BUT $420,000 FILLS A LOT OF POTHOLES.
THAT'S, I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST KEEP POINTING OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ENDLESS BUDGET HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ENDLESS MONEY AND WE HAVE TO WEIGH RIGHT NOW WANTS VERSUS NEEDS.
YEAH, I I'D LIKE TO SAY I, I'M ON THE SAME THEME.
I THINK SEVERAL OF US ARE, WE WANNA SEE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR PRIORITIZING PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING WHERE WE SPEND OUR MONEY.
AND I'M OF THE FISCAL THOUGHT PROCESS THAT UNTIL WE GET THAT DONE, SPENDING ANY MONEY THAT DOESN'T IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE CITY IS IRRESPONSIBLE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
SO I'M GONNA BE A NO TO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE VOTE WAS THAT THE 2017 WOULD BE SOLELY DEDICATED TO ROADS.
THIS BUDGET ITEM IS ON 2000, WHICH DOWN THE ROAD MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEDICATED TO ROADS.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2000 BUDGET, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND I, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK THAT'S A WORTHY EFFORT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA NEGATE THE WORK THAT THIS, THIS BOARD AND OTHERS HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY TO PRIORITIZE THESE PROJECTS AND, AND PUT THEM ON THE BUDGET AND, AND BE, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO FUND AND WHAT WE'RE NOT.
SO, UM, I KNOW THERE IS A REPRESENTATION FROM THE, UH, MOBILITY COMMISSION HERE.
DO WE HAVE, WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING TO, TO THIS ONE AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FROM, FROM YOUR ASPECT? YES.
UM, CITIES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, A CONNECTED PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE TRAIL SYSTEM DO BETTER THAN ONES THAT DON'T.
UM, YOU MAY NOT CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT RIDING ON A TRAIL, BUT YOUR KIDS PROBABLY DO AND IT WOULD BE A REASON THAT THEY WOULD WANNA STAY HERE RATHER THAN TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, EVERY, EVERY PERSON THAT'S RIDING ON A TRAIL, I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND HOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, BAD IN EDMOND COMPARED TO WHAT IT USED TO BE.
AND IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE AS MORE NEIGHBORHOODS GET BUILT, UH, OUT EAST OF EDMOND AND ELSEWHERE.
SO EVERY BICYCLIST WHO'S RIDING TO DO ERRANDS OR TO, UH, RIDE TO WORK ON A TRAIL IS SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT RIDING A CAR IN THE STREET.
UH, SO IT HAS POTENTIAL AT LEAST TO TAKE SOME TRAFFIC AND SOME PRESSURE OFF THE STREETS.
UM, AND IT'S JUST A HIGHER, HIGH DESIRABLE THING FOR A QUALITY CITY TO DO.
UM, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HERE DON'T HAVE CARS ACTUALLY, AND THEY, THEY RIDE IN EDMOND TRANSIT OR THEY RIDE A BIKE.
A FEW OF 'EM COME TO THE BICYCLE COMMITTEE, UH, REGULARLY COMPARE, COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.
UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE
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TO ONLY HAVE ONE CAR IN THEIR FAMILY SO THAT ONE PERSON RIDES TO WORK AND THEY ONLY HAVE TO PAY FOR UPKEEP AND INSURANCE OF ONE CAR INSTEAD OF TWO.UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, THOSE WOULD ALL BE REASONS WHY I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO CONTINUE OUR PLANS FOR THESE TRAILS.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH OF SECOND STREET THERE I THINK INCLUDED A CAR, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND TRAILER PARKS AND THINGS.
A LOT OF THE, THE, THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE ARE UCO STUDENTS AND TO HAVE THESE TWO SEGMENTS OF TRAIL THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND, UH, IN VARIOUS STAGES OF, UH, BEING IMPLEMENTED AND NOT TO CONNECT THEM WITH THAT MIDDLE PART JUST SEEMS WASTEFUL BECAUSE IT MEETS THE TWO SECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR IN PLANNING, IT RENDERS THEM USELESS IF YOU DON'T CONNECT THEM WITH THE LAST, UH, SECTION.
JUST AS A POINT, UH, I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T CARE.
UM, I, I'M VERY MUCH IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
UH, I HAVE LAND NORTH OF THE CITY.
I GO OUT TO IT VERY FREQUENTLY.
SO, UM, I WOULD CONSIDER MYSELF AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.
THOSE, THOSE TRAILS AREN'T TAKING YOU TO AND FROM WORK AS YOU MENTIONED.
UH, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN MUCH FOR MOST PEOPLE IN EDMOND.
TO ME, IT'S A LUXURY THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONCE WE KNOW THAT WE CAN GET IN AND OUT OF OUR CITY AND IT DOESN'T TAKE AN ORDINATE AMOUNT OF EFFORT TO GET AROUND.
I JUST TRIED TO GET TO THIS MEETING, IT WAS LATE BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THIS SCHOOL THINKS THAT ALL THE PARENTS CAN BLOCK OFF THIS ROAD ALL THE WAY TO SECOND STREET.
WHETHER YOU, YOU HAVE TO GO ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF DOUBLE YELLOW LANES TO GET ANYWHERE AND WHY THE POLICE DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT GETTING AROUND EDMOND'S VERY DIFFICULT AND WE'RE LOSING TAX DOLLARS IN MY OPINION BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME IN INTO EDMOND.
EVEN PEOPLE WHO COME HERE ON WEEKENDS FOR SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND SUCH, THEY'RE STAYING ON THE PERIPHERY HOTELS AND THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK IN BECAUSE IT'S A HASSLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF EDMOND.
SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT'S FOR ME, IT'S NOT A, I DON'T LIKE 'EM OR I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO, TO DRIVE ON 'EM.
AND I HAVE ALL THE RESPECT FOR PREVIOUS BOARDS AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN.
UH, BUT I JOINED THIS AS A, I WANT TO SEE A STRATEGIC PLAN ON PROJECTS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH BEEN IMPROVED, WE STILL HAVE TO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO FINISH 'EM.
AND IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T BE FINISHED AT A CERTAIN TIME, JUST NOT RIGHT THIS SECOND.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON MY POINT.
I JUST HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT.
UM, NOT SO MUCH ON THE ISSUE AT HAND, BUT THE IDEA OF APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND, AND BEING AWARDED THE GRANTS AND THEN DECLINING THE GRANTS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WE WANT TO TRY AND AVOID WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS WITH THE GRANT AWARDING AGENCIES.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT THE RIGHT DECISION.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE ISSUE AT HAND, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT US BEING VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT APPLYING FOR GRANTS UNLESS WE REALLY BELIEVE WE WANT TO BUDGET THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS WHEN AND IF IT'S AWARDED TO US.
KEVIN, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I VOTED YES ON THE LAST ITEM, JUST SO THAT WE DON'T GET A REPUTATION FOR APPLYING FOR RECEIVING GRANTS AND THEN GOING, NAH, ACTUALLY, NO.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT WE CAN'T HAVE, AND YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO, OBVIOUSLY, 'CAUSE YOU'VE BROUGHT US MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSIDER.
UM, BUT TO, TO THE EXTENT WE ARE ALLOWING WHAT'S AVAILABLE AS A GRANT GRANT TO DRIVE WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS.
I MEAN, WE, THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BY ROB.
I'VE MENTIONED IT A FEW TIMES, HAVING A STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WE AS A GROUP CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, WHATEVER THAT HAPPENS TO BE.
AND THEN WE, WE CONSIDER THESE PROPOSALS BASED ON THAT STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, BECAUSE WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE VERY GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, SOME OF US FEEL THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE ROADS AND STREETS AND MOVING PEOPLE IN VEHICLES BECAUSE DESPITE WHAT SOME WANT US TO BECOME, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE EVER GONNA BE CONSIDERED AN URBAN COMMUNITY.
WE'RE SUBURBAN COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE USE THEIR VEHICLES TO GET TO AND FRO IN
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ORDER TO GET TO WORK AND DO ERRANDS AND ALL.AND THEN YES, USE THE TRAILS FOR RECREATION.
UM, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE A PRIORITY.
I, I WOULD, I ALSO LIKE TO SAY WE'RE JUST A RECOMMENDING BOARD.
THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
I, I WOULD PUSH BACK STRONGLY ON THE IDEA THAT GRANTS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE I THINK THE LAST 12, 15 MONTHS THAT'S PROVEN INACCURATE.
UM, I, I THINK SURE, IF, IF THERE IS MONEY THAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE WANNA DO, GREAT.
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN JUST ASSUME THAT OUR REPUTATION AND BACKING OUT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR WON'T HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
CHRISTIE, COULD YOU OVERHEAR, SORRY, OVER HERE.
I'M LIKE, WHO'S TALKING TO HER? I'VE BEEN MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL DAY.
SO COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH SOME OF THE GRANT BODIES HAD, HAS ENABLED US TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON SOME PROJECTS? RIGHT.
SO, UM, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND, UM, YES, IT WOULD HAVE CONSEQUENCES IF WE DID GO BACK AND SAY THAT WE DIDN'T WANT THIS, UM, MONEY WE HAVE BUILT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, MYSELF AND MY TEAM, JULIE, JULIANA MCCULLOUGH HAVE, AS WELL AS ENGINEERING STAFF AND PLANNING STAFF.
UM, BUT WE'VE BUILT A REPUTATION AND A RELATIONSHIP WITH ODOT, UM, AS WELL AS ACOG.
UM, TWO WEEKS AGO WE APPLIED, WE, WELL, WE APPLIED FOR AN T-S-T-V-G GRANT.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT.
FOR SECOND AND BOULEVARD AREA, WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT GRANT.
IT WAS A HIGH ENOUGH SCORING THAT THEY HAD $453,000 LEFT OVER.
UM, AND SO ENGINEERING, UM, AND US, WE DISCUSSED, UM, DO WE WANNA SCALE DOWN ON OUR PROJECT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WAS A $5 MILLION PROJECT.
UM, WE HAD 3 MILLION IN MATCH.
WE WERE ASKING FOR THE REST OF IT FROM ACOG, UH, WHICH WOULD'VE ENDED UP BEING AN ODOT PROJECT.
UH, TWO CALLS LATER, WE GOT THE PHONE CALL FOR MAIN STREET AND BOULEVARD.
DO YOU WANT THE $453 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR IT? AGAIN, WE WENT THROUGH THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING IT, UH, STAFF TIME, UH, DO WE HAVE MATCH, ET CETERA.
UM, SIMILAR, ODOT HAS COME BACK TO US RECENTLY.
I THINK IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, YOU APPROVED A SECOND.
AND, UH, FROM SANTA FE TO I 35, UH, SECOND EDMUND ROAD, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, THAT ONE'S GETTING READY TO LET NEXT MONTH ODOT HAD EXTRA MONEY.
THEY GAVE US THE EXTRA MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT, WHICH LESSENS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IF IT GOES OVER THE MAX, UH, BUDGET.
SO YES, WE'VE BUILT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, UM, WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, THE BUILD GRANT I REFERRED TO FOR THE BRIDGE PROJECT WAS USED TO BE CALLED THE RAISE GRANT.
UM, WE GOT WORD, UH, YESTERDAY OR TODAY THAT ODOT IS, UH, A GRANT THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO APPLY FOR.
THEY'RE HOLDING FUNDING ON IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATION BILL AT THE FED LEVEL APPROVED YET, SO THAT THEY'RE EXTENDING THE GRANT DEADLINE BECAUSE OF THAT, AND THEY'RE HOLDING THE MONEY UNTIL THEY GET A BILL APPROVED.
WE NEVER KNOW WHEN WE'RE GETTING THEM OR WHEN WE CAN APPLY.
UM, WE'VE JUST BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT WHAT WE DO.
OTHER ITEMS? I, I DO WANT TO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT MAYBE LIMITED FUNDS IN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, UM, AND MAKING THESE PRIORITY DECISIONS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO DO THAT AND LOOK FORWARD AND, AND WHAT WE DO THERE.
AND, AND WE KNOW THAT THE 2017 TAX WILL BE DEDICATED TO ROADS WHEN, WHEN THAT TURNS OVER.
UM, I'M ALSO HOLD INTENTION, THE IDEA THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDS APPROVED AND WE HAVE THESE GRANT PROCESSES THAT, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH RESOLUTION AND OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO EXECUTE ON TODAY WHAT, WHAT IS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT, THAT WE'D LIMIT SOME FLEXIBILITY.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO HOLD BOTH OF THOSE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME AND TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
BUT AS ROB MENTIONED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
UM, SO OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THIS ONE? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
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ALL RIGHT.[C. Discussion of the Amended and Restated Development and Financing Assistance Agreement with 103 Broadway, LLC.]
ALL RIGHT.THREE C, DISCUSSION OF THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCING ASSISTANCE AGREEMENT WITH 1 0 3 BROADWAY, LLC.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, AJ KRIEGER, CITY MANAGER.
I KNOW THAT TIME IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, WE'RE A LITTLE PRESSED FOR TIME, SO I'LL TRY AND BE BRIEF.
IN AUGUST OF 23, THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT 1 0 3 NORTH BROADWAY.
THAT AGREEMENT WAS AMENDED IN OCTOBER OF 23.
THAT AMENDMENT, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UH, UH, BUDGETED FUNDS FOR STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERD.
UM, THAT, THAT ITEM HAD COME BEFORE THIS ADVISORY BOARD, I THINK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
AND THE STAFF REPORT WAS SPECIFIC THAT THE STREETS SCAPE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HERD.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, THAT AGREEMENT WAS JUST RECENTLY AMENDED, UM, BY THE, UH, BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, SO THAT, UH, THE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR STREETSCAPE WOULD BE SPENT NOW ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HER.
SO IT'S KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH, UH, UH, OVER THE, ACROSS THE STREET WHEN THE ITEM WAS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
I TOLD THEM THAT, UM, I WOULD COME HERE AND SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT POINT WITH YOU.
I, UH, MY FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, BUT MY FIRST TIME, UH, SPEAKING TO YOU, UH, UH, I WISH WE'D HAVE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO COME HERE AND, AND, AND, AND TELL YOU THAT WE WERE A LITTLE BIT DEVIATING FROM WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE BOARD HAD APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
SO IF THERE ARE 20 OR SO LASHES TO BE TAKEN, I WILL, OR TAKEN, I WILL HAPPILY TAKE THEM TODAY, AND THEN I'LL DISTRIBUTE THEM AMONGST OTHER STAFF MEMBERS LATER.
UM, NO, I JUST WANTED TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, AND I WANT TO CLOSE THE LOOP, AND I DIDN'T WANT THIS ANYONE ON THE BOARD TO THINK WE BYPASSED YOU OR THAT WE IGNORED THE RECOMMENDATION.
THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IS THAT MONEY THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED AND EXPLICITLY RECOMMENDED BE SPENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE WILL NOW BE SPENT ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UH, WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLOSE THE LOOP AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNEW THAT YOU REMIND US WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS AND YOU APPROVED, UH, YOU RECOMMENDED 600,000 MM-HMM
UM, AND BASED ON THE AMENDMENT THAT THAT TOTAL AMOUNT NOW IS, UH, 708,000 AND SOME CHANGE.
AND THAT'S OUT OF THE 2000, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
IT SHOULD BE QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE CONSIDER A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON THIS BOARD.
SO MY MEMORY MAY BE A LITTLE BIT FUZZY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE REASON WHY WE APPROVED THE FUNDING FOR THE SOUTH SIDE IS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WAS GOING TO MAKE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING, UH, RIDE SHARE, UH, AREA TO COME IN SOME OTHER TYPE OF DROP OFF PICKUP BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE, UM, RETAIL BUSINESSES AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WOULD THE AMENDMENT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE DEVELOPER IS NOW NOT GOING TO MAKE THOSE SAME SORT OF IMPROVEMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE? BECAUSE AGAIN, THE IDEA WITH THE APPROVING IT FOR THE SOUTH SIDE IS WE'RE GONNA KIND OF MATCH THEIR ENERGY, SO TO SPEAK, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE BOTH SIDES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, NOW, UM, IT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF DISRUPTING THAT BALANCE, UM, WITHOUT DEALING WITH THE SCOPE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, IN THE AUGUST OF 2023, UM, INITIAL AGREEMENT, THE WORD STREET SCAPE WASN'T NECESSARILY USED, ALTHOUGH THE KINDS OF STREET, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS YOU JUST DESCRIBED WERE INCLUDED.
IT WAS IN THE OCTOBER OF 23 AMENDMENT WHERE STREET SCAPE WAS MORE SPECIFICALLY REFERRED TO.
HONESTLY, MY BEST ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS I DON'T WANT TO TRY AND MATCH SCOPE FOR SCOPE, BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, UM, THE EFFECT OF THE AMENDMENT IS THAT NOW, UH, THE, THE 644,000 WHICH WILL BE SPENT ON STREETSCAPE WILL BE SPENT ON THE NORTH SIDE.
I THINK, UM, WITHOUT GETTING TOO FAR OUT IN FRONT OF ANY FUTURE WORK, THE HOPE IS THAT THE CITY WILL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MATCH THE PROJECT THAT WAS ONCE CONTEMPLATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, AND IF SO, HOW MANY? UM, I BELIEVE THERE IS ADDITIONAL
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ON STREET PARKING.I, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF SPACES.
I'M HAPPY TO REPORT BACK TO YOU.
I'M SORRY, I JUST CAME HERE TO TAKE MY 20 LASHES.
BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH OR DISCOUNT YOUR QUESTION.
UH, WE'LL FIND OUT AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
SO, UH, JUST A COUPLE GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT, BUT THEN ALSO THE BROADER, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS ON TIFF.
UM, I WAS STRUCK BY THE FACT, AND THIS IS DONE DEAL, SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT TO BE UNDONE THE DEAL'S DONE AND THAT'S FINE, BUT IT APPEARS WE'RE THAT THE CITY IS CONTRIBUTING 2.5 MILLION OF A $16 MILLION PROJECT TO THE DEVELOPER, OF WHICH ALMOST 700,000 IS FOR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT ENHANCES THEIR PROFITABILITY.
ANOTHER, UM, 879 TO GET ASSISTANCE FOR DEVELOPMENT FINANCING.
SO AN ALMOST $900,000 FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS, AND I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GET INTO THAT.
THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY'S PUTTING FORWARD FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF TIFF FINANCING BECAUSE IT'S MEANT TO PROMOTE AND PRIME THE PUMP.
IT SEEMS TO ME THE PUMP HAS BEEN PRIMED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS HERE IN EDMOND.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS OF WHAT YOUR OUTLOOK OR THE COUNCIL'S OUTLOOK IS DOING FUTURE, UH, TIFF, UH, FINANCING AGREEMENTS.
CHAIRMAN CAN, IS THAT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM? YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S WORTH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTH THE QUESTION, BUT YEAH, PROBABLY OUTSIDE OF, OF MAYBE WHAT IT IS, BUT IT IS SPECIFIC TO, TO THIS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO A GRAY OR MURKY AREA.
LEMME TRY AND DO THIS QUICKLY.
AND LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING HAPPY TO, UH, FOLLOW UP AND TO MEET WITH AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH ANY OR ALL OF YOU IF YOU WANT TO.
YOU KNOW, I THINK ULTIMATELY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A POLICY DECISION THAT'S MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I THINK THAT THE, I CAN'T SPEAK TO PAST PRACTICE, BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD WE WILL LOOK AT THESE, UH, UH, PROPOSED AGREEMENTS AND THESE PROJECTS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
I DO THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT AND ASSUME THAT WE MIGHT MAKE A LARGER CONTRIBUTION TO PROJECTS ON THE SO-CALLED FRONT END OR SOME OF THE EARLY PROJECTS THAT ARE INTENDED TO BE CATALYTIC AND INTENDED TO, UH, GENERATE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
AND OVER TIME, AS THE MARKET BECOMES A, A SAFER INVESTMENT, AND AS ONE MIGHT ASSUME WOULD REQUIRE LESS OF AN INDUCEMENT FROM THE CITY, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION, UM, UH, FOR, UH, ANY CITIZEN IN EDMOND TO HAVE.
HOWEVER, I THINK ALWAYS THE, THE SAFEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU TODAY IS I THINK THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT THESE AND STAFF AS WE'RE CONSIDERING MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE BENEFITS MIGHT BE.
BUT I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD, FAIR POINTS THAT WE NEED TO CONSTANTLY KIND OF CONSIDER AND RECONSIDER AS WE'RE WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS.
NO, SO AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO, WANTED TO THE BOARD TO KNOW WE DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY BYPASS YOU, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
CAN I ASK QUICK QUESTION? FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO ED.
UM, SO IF WE VOTE NO ON THIS, WHAT ARE WE SAYING? THERE'S, THERE'S NO VOTE.
THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION UPDATE.
AND, AND THE REAS, THE REASON I DO APPRECIATE IT BEING ON OUR AGENDA, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T GET TO RECONSIDER IT, ALTHOUGH I WISH WE COULD.
UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THE CITY'S RECOGNIZING THE ROLE OF THE CIP BOARD.
I WANT, I HOPE THAT THEY RECOGNIZE THE ROLE OF THE PARKS BOARD.
I HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK HERE TO THIS BOARD.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, HAVING SAT ON THE CITY COUNCIL, WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT WHAT THESE BOARDS RECOMMEND, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO WE'RE DOWN TO HOW MANY LASHINGS NOW? 20 YEARS.
[D. Presentation and Discussion of Future Citizen Engagement Opportunities and Timeline Regarding the Use of Paving the Way Sales Tax Funds for Street Repairs and Improvements.]
ITEM NUMBER 3D, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE FUTURE CITIZENS ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND TIMELINE REGARDING THE USE OF PAVING THE WAY SALES TAX FUNDS FOR STREET REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS.CASEY MOORE, DIRECTOR OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
UH, WHAT I WANNA DO TODAY, UH, WE GAVE THIS PRESENTATION LAST WEEK TO CITY COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOW WE WOULD GO OUT AND RECEIVE SOME CITIZENS FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GET MOVING FORWARD WITH PAVING THE WAY AND, AND HOW YOU
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ALL ARE INVOLVED IN SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS MOVING FORWARD.SO EVERYTHING JUST WENT BLACK, NOW IT'S BACK.
UM, SO I'M GONNA GIVE THE FIRST PART OF THIS TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, UM, THE CITIZENS FEEDBACK PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN I'LL KICK IT OVER TO BRAD AND HE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, KIND OF HOW THAT'S ALL IMPLEMENTED WITH THE DATA POINTS AND ALL THE DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND, AND YOU ALL WILL TAKE THAT AND MOVE THAT FORWARD, UM, AS WE, AS WE GET GOING, UH, TOWARDS 2027.
SO, UH, IT SAYS, IN THE GOAL OF THE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL, 'CAUSE THIS, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GOT THE EXACT SAME PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL ON NEXT STEPS.
AS YOU ALL KNOW AND ARE VERY AWARE, UH, WE HAD, UH, TWO PROPOSITIONS, NOVEMBER 18TH.
ONE WAS TO RENEW OUR 1 CENT GENERAL FUND, AND THEN ONE WAS TO RENEW THE HALF CENT, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS A 2017.
I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE, I THINK INTERNALLY WE'RE THINKING WE'RE GONNA KEEP CALLING IT PAVING THE WAY BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH RELATED TO, UM, STREETS AND ROADS, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO BOTH OF THOSE PASSED WITH ABOUT 80%, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS, UM, THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FROM CITY COUNCIL STANDPOINT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND FROM SAYING, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE AN ELECTION, HAVING AN ELECTION.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN WAS, WELL, IF WE CAN'T GET A LOT OF CITIZEN FEEDBACK BEFORE THE ELECTION, UH, LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET IT BEFORE WE START COLLECTING THOSE DOLLARS.
AND THE GOOD THING IS, WE HAVE THAT RUNWAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH, UM, ON DOING THAT.
SO, UM, AND YOU COULD SEE IN THE INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL, I KNOW YOU GUYS ALL SAW THIS, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW, HOW THIS WOULD ALL WORK AND THINGS WOULD, WOULD RUN THROUGH YOU ALL AND THEN ULTIMATELY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN, AND THEN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU GUYS WOULD USE THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE VERY FIRST THING ON THERE IS CITIZEN FEEDBACK RECEIVE THEIR OUTREACH ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING SURVEYS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, ET CETERA.
AND SO THAT'S THE PART THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, IS DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH, OVER A THREE WEEK PERIOD, UH, WE WANT TO UTILIZE A HOTSPOT MAP TOOL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES PREVIOUSLY.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK.
I THINK WE WANNA ENHANCE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE FROM FOLKS.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE TOOL WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO ON A MAP, THEY CAN DROP PINS ON AREAS THAT ARE FRUSTRATING FOR THEM, A HEADACHE FOR THEM.
AND REALLY IT'S MAINLY TALKING ABOUT GETTING AROUND TRAFFIC SAFETY, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND SO, UM, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS.
WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS THE VERY FIRST TIME, IT WAS OPEN-ENDED AND WE GOT ALL THESE OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES, AND THEN WE SPENT MONTHS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PARSE THROUGH THOSE AND PUT 'EM TOGETHER.
AND ULTIMATELY WE LANDED ON THIS MAP SO THAT WE COULD OUTPUT THAT.
AND THEN AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD, WE'VE REFINED THAT AND IT WORKS REALLY WELL AT THIS POINT.
AND SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO DURING THAT TIME, IN ADDITION TO SENDING THAT OUT, THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY AT ANY TIME TO USE.
WE'RE GONNA GO OUT TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE AS WELL AND MAKE SURE AND ENCOURAGE THEM, UH, IN, IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
SO, UH, LOOKING AT SPENDING A COUPLE DAYS AT THE EDMOND PUBLIC LIBRARY, WE KNOW THERE'S A BROAD, UH, RANGE OF PEOPLE THAT UTILIZE OUR LIBRARY, UH, AND, AND ENCOURAGING THEM AND INFORMING THEM ABOUT THIS.
UM, SPENDING TIME AT UCO, WE KNOW THAT, UH, COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST FOLKS FOR US TO REACH, UH, BUT THEIR OPINION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
AND SO SPENDING SOME TIME ON CAMPUS DOING THE SAME THING, UH, POTENTIALLY GETTING OUT TO A HERD ON HERD, UH, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE AGAIN, UM, AND, AND INFORMING PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.
AND THEN HITTING, UH, SOME YOUTH BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.
UH, COUNCIL INFORMED US LAST WEEK.
THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE, UH, SOMETHING WHERE WE ACTUALLY BRING PEOPLE TO US.
AND SO, UM, WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING EITHER EDMUND MATTERS MEETING OR SPECIAL MEETING, UM, AND THEN POTENTIALLY THE INDOOR FARMER'S MARKET.
SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD FALL WITHIN A THREE WEEK PERIOD, UH, DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH.
UM, AT THE END, WE WOULD, WE WOULD ULTIMATELY END UP WITH A, A FINAL PRODUCT THAT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UH, THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS WAS IN 2022, SO WE'RE COMING UP ON FOUR YEARS AND, AND WE'RE DUE FOR SOME FRESHNESS AND FEEDBACK ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, WE HAD 5,400 VALID RESPONSES.
WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS DON'T GET SPAMMED OR, UM, TWISTED IN A WAY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T.
SO, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF, OUR GIS STAFF DOES ON THE BACK END.
UM, AND WE'VE FOUND THAT THIS TOOL IS, IS REALLY HELPFUL, REALLY USEFUL.
UM, QUITE OFTEN THE, THE DATA ALIGNS WITH, WITH WHAT BRAD AND HIS STAFF ALREADY KNOW.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S POSITIVE.
BUT THE REALLY INTERESTING THING IS WE HAVE SEEN, EACH TIME WE'VE DONE THIS, WE'VE SEEN KIND OF SOME NEW AREAS, SOME UP AND COMING AREAS WHERE MAYBE WE WEREN'T THINKING ABOUT THOSE.
AND SO NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS OVER TIME, WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THOSE HAVE TRENDED.
AND WE CAN ALSO SEE HOW THINGS HAVE TRENDED DOWN IN AREAS WHERE WE'VE DONE MAJOR PROJECTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS FROM LAST TIME, NUMBER ONE WAS SECOND.
AND BRYANT, I WILL, UH, BET A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SECOND BRYANT WON'T BE NUMBER ONE THIS TIME, UH, BECAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORT THERE.
AND IT, AND IT WORKS SIGNIFICANTLY
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BETTER THAN IT USED TO.UM, AND YOU CAN SEE OTHER PROJECTS ON THAT LIST THAT, UH, EITHER HAVE BEEN HANDLED OR ARE BEING HANDLED NOW, AND THEN SOME THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO YET.
SO, UM, ULTIMATELY THIS IS WHERE WE WANNA LAND IS WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND THEN, UM, ULTIMATELY AFTER THAT, THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND INTEGRATE IT WITH ALL THE DATA POINTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE AND, AND WHAT DOES YOUR TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? SO BEFORE I KICK IT OVER TO BRAD TO, TO TALK ABOUT THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO, UH, THE CITIZEN FEEDBACK PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE UNDERTAKING HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS? I APPRECIATE THAT FOR THE, THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF PUT INTO DOING THAT AND, AND I THINK DOING IT WELL.
SO, UM, LIKE I TOLD COUNSEL THE OTHER NIGHT, I WOULD TRUST YOU GUYS TO, TO GATHER THAT THE BEST, THE BEST WAY WE KNOW HOW AND YOU GUYS ARE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
AND, AND ONE THING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE DATA POINTS TOO.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE PUSH THIS SURVEY OUT THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THAT INFORMATION'S THERE TOO.
WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT THE, THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT SAFETY.
UH, IDEALLY IT'D BE GREAT FOR PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GO AND THEY DROP THEIR PINS TO BE EDUCATED.
WE KNOW NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA, UH, DO THAT TO, TO, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE THAT THAT INFORMATION'S OUT THERE AS WELL.
UM, ON, IT SAYS IT'S GONNA HAPPEN DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH.
AND TELL ME ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT ONLINE.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO ONLINE TO DO THIS? SO IT, IT WILL BE SET UP, UH, IT'LL BE EDMOND OK DOT COV SLASH TRAFFIC.
AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DROP PINS ON THAT MAP WHERE TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE FOR YOU.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, MARCH IS WHEN SPRING BREAK IS CORRECT.
NINE, NINE DAYS PEOPLE WILL BE OUT OF TOWN.
SO I WANT 'EM TO BE ABLE TO FILL IT IN.
I WANT 'EM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND I WOULD ALSO JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IT MAY BE PIE IN THE SKY, BUT I REALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO, UM, LET THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS KNOW THAT THE ONLINE SURVEY IS HAPPENING.
SO THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE THE EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT I'D LOVE TO INCLUDE THEM, ESPECIALLY SINCE WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY IS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FINDING, UM, AROUND THE SCHOOLS.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL ABSOLUTELY BE NOTIFIED AND, AND AWARE THAT THOSE, THOSE AREAS THAT WERE LISTED ARE PLACES WHERE WE'RE PHYSICALLY GOING TO GO AND SET UP AND TALK TO PEOPLE.
UM, EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IDEAL FOR THAT.
I'LL LET BRAD TAKE IT FROM HERE.
UH, SO POST CITIZEN FEEDBACK, YOU CAN SEE HERE APRIL AND MAY WE'LL BE COMBINING THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE WITH THE EXISTING INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING THOSE PCI SCORES THAT I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, WE HAVE TRAFFIC COUNTS, HISTORICAL AND FUTURE PLAN TRAFFIC COUNTS.
UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT OUR GRANT TEAM TODAY.
UH, WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST GRANT TEAM HERE THAT IS ALWAYS VIGILANT LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN, UH, CONTRIBUTE A QUARTER AND, UH, ODOT WILL GIVE US 75 CENTS.
SO, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
ON THAT LIST OF THE, THE HEAT MAP THAT WAS SHOWN UP THERE, THE TOP THREE WERE, UH, SECOND AND BRYANT, AND THAT WAS FROM 2022 SECOND AND BRYANT, DANFORTH AND KELLY AND COVELL AND COLTRANE.
SO COVELL AND COLTRANE WAS NUMBER TWO.
UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT IS A DIFFICULT ONE FOR US TO TACKLE WITHOUT SOME SORT OF FUNDING ASSISTANCE.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING, I KNOW CHRISTY AND JULIANA ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR COVELL AND COLTRANE.
UH, WE'RE DOING DANFORTH AND KELLY RIGHT NOW, YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T EVEN NOTICED IT'S FLOWING SO SMOOTH THROUGH THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, YEAH, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ALREADY GOT LISTS.
WE'VE GOT PLANS, BUT NOW THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN, THEY WANT THIS TO BE DEDICATED TO ROADS.
WE KNOW ROUGHLY 10 YEARS, 120 MILLION.
WE'LL SEE WHAT THE CITIZENS WANT.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS IN APRIL AND MAY.
WE'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
WE'LL HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS, THE HEAT MAP, ALL THAT GREAT STUFF.
WE'LL GET TOGETHER, HASH OUT OUR PLAN.
YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME IMPORTANT FEEDBACK ON PRIORITIZATION, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
SO, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT APRIL AND MAY ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE THERE AI TOOLS AVAILABLE TO CRUNCH THIS DATA FOR YOU AS IT COMES
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TOGETHER TO REALLY YEAH, MAYBE DIG, DIG THROUGH THE DETAILS A BIT? THERE ARE SOME, YEAH.OUR, OUR IT, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE PROPER AI TOOLS.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME THAT DON'T PROVIDE RELIABLE INFORMATION.
AND I'M SURE MADELINE, OUR ATTORNEY, COULD TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE FUN CASES THAT AI MAKES UP TO BACK ITS STANCE ON THINGS.
SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH AI, BUT SOME OF THE PURE DATA DRIVEN THINGS, CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT LEVERAGING SOME OF THAT.
UH, SO YEAH, THAT APRIL AND MAY, THAT'S WHERE WE'D COME TO YOU GUYS BEGIN THAT CONVERSATION.
WE'VE GOT THE FEEDBACK, WE'VE GOT THE DATA.
NOW LET'S HASH OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO OVER THIS 10 YEARS WITH $120 MILLION.
UH, AND THEN JUNE AND AUGUST CITY STAFF WILL ASSIST THE CIP ADVISORY BOARD IN DEVELOPING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, UH, APRIL AND MAY, THOSE ARE TWO MEETINGS THAT WE CAN REALLY JUST DIVE IN AND TRY TO HASH THINGS OUT.
AND THEN JUNE THROUGH AUGUST, WE'LL GET TOGETHER THOSE, THAT LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT A SEPTEMBER CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO HEAR THE CIP ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AND TAKE ACTION.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS SAID AT COUNCIL THAT IF THAT SEPTEMBER DATE IS TOO SOON, IF, IF WE GET INTO JUNE AND JULY AND WE DECIDE THAT, THAT WE NEED MORE TIME TO DIGEST OR PRIORITIZE OR DO THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT WASN'T A HARD DEADLINE WE HAD TO STICK TO, BUT THAT WAS, UM, CORRECT, THAT WAS THERE.
SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE SEE THE DATA AND AS WE START TO DIGEST IT AND YEP.
AND DISCUSS, AS CASEY MENTIONED, WE HAVE A NICE RUNWAY NOW.
WE WANNA SIT DOWN AND MAKE THE MOST INFORMED DECISION OF HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THIS MONEY.
ANY QUESTIONS? I, I DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH FOR YOU.
HOPEFULLY YOU'LL GET DECENT RESPONSE.
WE SEEM TO HAVE AN APATHY PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVING INFORMATION, UH, OR VOTING FOR THAT MATTER.
SO IT'S REALLY GONNA BE IMPORTANT WE BANG THE BELL TO GET THESE PEOPLE TO RESPOND.
AND, AND WE'VE MADE THIS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
YOU CAN BE IN AND OUTTA THAT MAP IN A MATTER OF MINUTES AND, AND BE FINISHED.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED IN 2022, WE HAD OVER 5,000 VALID RESPONSES.
SO, UM, THE, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE THAN THAT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON
[E. Monthly Sales Tax Report.]
TO, UH, THREE E MONTHLY SALES TAX REPORT.I SEE SOME BLUE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S NICE.
SEE IF I CAN READ THROUGH THIS AS WELL AS THE, THE PREVIOUS FEW MEETINGS HERE.
UH, SO SANDY'S GETTING THAT INFORMATION UP ON THE SCREEN.
SO THIS COVERS ACTUAL SALES FROM NOVEMBER, 2025, REPORTED TO OTC AND DECEMBER OF 2025 AND COLLECTED BY EDMUND IN JANUARY OF 2026.
UH, YEAR TO DATE COMBINED SALES AND USE TAX COLLECTIONS ARE UP OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR BY 0.02%.
SO WE'RE UP BUT BARELY, UH, YEAR TO DATE.
SALES TAX COLLECTIONS ARE DOWN THIS MONTH, OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR BY 1.22%.
YEAR TO DATE USE TAX COLLECTIONS ARE UP OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR BY 5.86%.
OUR YEAR TO DATE LODGING TAX COLLECTIONS ARE DOWN OVER THIS TIME LAST YEAR BY 1.83%.
AND THEN JUST A NOTE, THE OTC WILL TYPICALLY RELEASE THE INDUSTRY DATA ON THE 15TH OF THE MONTH, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO JANUARY SALES AND USE TAX INCREASES.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BRANDON? WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE, UM, MORE YEARS INCLUDED? YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR IS, DOES NOT SUGGEST A TREND.
I MEAN, WE'RE UP 2%, BUT WE WERE DOWN 1.75% THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
IT MIGHT JUST BE AN INTERESTING LOOK TO SEE WHAT, HOW WE'RE TRENDING OVERALL.
THIS IS JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.
WOULD BE NICE TO MOVE THE USE TAX UP TO SALES TAX SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL RETAILERS.
HEY, I ALSO HAVE JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.
I THINK I SAID SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, BUT,
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YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK A CITIZEN EDUCATION TYPE OF CAMPAIGN IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU ORDER ONLINE TO A LOCAL PLACE, THAT TAX, THOSE TAX DOLLARS DO NOT COME TO EDMOND.AND SO JUST BEING ABLE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE WHAT IT MEANS TO SHOP AT HOME AND WALK IN, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GET ANY BETTER.
I MEAN, YOU JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DELIVERIES AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH I GET, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME EDUCATION 'CAUSE USED TO.
THEY'RE ALSO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING THAT THE STREETS AREN'T FIXED.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO WRAP IT HERE, HERE SOON.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. NUMBER FOUR,
[4. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board on Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. All remarks must be directed to the Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with Section I of the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and upon request at City Hall. Please note that members of the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]
CITIZENS' COMMENTS.ANYONE HERE TO, TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD? I TAYLOR WILSON, APPRECIATE YOUR ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS TODAY.
UH, EVERYBODY REVIEWED AND MADE ACTIVE STUFF AS YOU DO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT IF YOU NEED TO HOLD MONEY BACK FOR THE COLTRANE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THERE'S X DOLLARS AND IF WE'RE GONNA USE MATCHING GRANTS BUILT INTO THAT STRATEGY, YOU MIGHT NEED TO HOLD SOME MONEY BACK IF THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE GRANT MONEY.
AND SECONDLY, RELATIVE TO THAT OVERALL STRATEGY WAS WHAT ARE THE LEAD TIMES I TODAY WAS CONFUSING BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND FROM, IF WE WANTED A ROAD FIX TOMORROW, HOW LONG IS THE LEAD TIME AND HOW MUCH IS THE DOLLARS? I KNOW IN THE RURAL IT'S A BILLION DOLLARS PER MILE OVERLAY IN THE CITY, IT COSTS X DOLLARS, BUT WHAT'S THE LEAD TIME TO GET THAT? AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP IS MANAGING EXPECTATIONS THAT IT, THIS IS NOT GONNA SHIFT TOMORROW RELATIVE TO THE ROADS.
A LOT OF DOLLARS ARE GONNA GO TO IT, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO WORK ITSELF OUT.
[5. Comments from the Capital Improvement Projects Advisory Board Chair and Members.]
COMMENTS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BOARD.I, I DO WANT ALSO TO ECHO WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY AND THAT IS I THINK A STRATEGIC PLAN WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.
I, UM, KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL FINISHED THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN IN DECEMBER.
IT'S NOT YET PUBLISHED, BUT WE NOW HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES AND WE CAN LOOK AT THEIR PRIORITIES AND PIGGYBACK ONTO THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO BRAD.
YOU DID A GREAT JOB HELPING TO SHEPHERD US HERE AT, AT YOUR FIRST MEETING.
UH, MR. KRIEGER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.
HOPEFULLY WE GET TO HEAR FROM YOU, UH, QUITE A BIT IN THESE, UM, ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I WOULD ALSO, JUST THE LAST THING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT MADE ME THINK THAT PERHAPS AN AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE IN ORDER TO TALK ABOUT TIFS BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS ADVISORY COUNCIL.
MOST OF WHAT WE'VE DEALT WITH WITH CIP HAS BEEN IN AND AROUND THOSE TIF DISTRICTS.
AND MAYBE, UM, AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND KIND OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE ARE WE MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE, UM, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'D BE USEFUL AGAIN AS WE LOOK AT OUR OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN.
YEAH, I WANTED TO MENTION, UH, SO I'VE BEEN AVOIDING DANFORTH AND KELLY, LIKE MOST PEOPLE, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I FORGET AND THEN I FIND MYSELF AND I GO.
BUT A FEW DAYS AGO I WAS IN THAT SITUATION AND I LOOKED AND JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE.
I LIVE MUCH CLOSER TO SECOND AND BRYANT AND JUST KIND OF HAD A LITTLE BIT OF LINGERING POST-TRAUMATIC TRAFFIC SYNDROME GOING ON.
AND YOU JUST TO COMMEND YOU AND CITY MANAGER AND STAFF LIKE IT AND THE CONTRACTORS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING NOW WATCH, I'M JINXING IT, BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO BE GOING MUCH MORE SMOOTHLY.
UM, AND I'VE JUST FELT LIKE WOW, THEY REALLY ARE MAKING A LOT OF GREAT PROGRESS ON IT.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE AVOIDING IT AND I'M ACTUALLY GETTING AROUND IT REALLY SMOOTH BECAUSE OF THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I CODY YOU GONNA VOTE ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, THANKS EVERYBODY.