[1. Call to Order.]
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I AM GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE COMMUNITY AGENCY REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AGAIN.
[2. Discussion of Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Budget Requests and Consideration of Recommending Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Budget Amounts for Approval by the Edmond City Council for: Boys Ranch Town Character Council of Edmond Edmond Family Counseling Edmond Fine Arts Institute Edmond Historic Preservation Trust Edmond Land Conservancy Edmond Mobile Meals Edmond Public Schools Foundation Edmond Round Up Club Edmond YMCA Family Therapy Clinic Folds of Honor Fostering Sweet Dreams Heartline HOPE Center of Edmond Lilyfield Ministries of Jesus Mission 143 Neighborhood Housing Services Oasis Clubhouse Oklahoma Project Woman Peaceful Family Solutions Project 66 Turning Point Ministries U R Special Ministries UCO Endeavor Games Willow Ranch]
EVERYONE HAS TURNED THEIR, UM, SCORING SHEETS IN.AND AS WE GO ABOUT, UM, CONSIDERING OUR FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS, I WANT US TO PAY ATTENTION TO NOT JUST THE NUMBERS, BUT WHAT ARE THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE FUNDING.
AND IN CHRISTIE'S PRESENTATION YESTERDAY, UM, THE NEEDS WERE IDENTIFIED AS 48% FOR HOUSING, 17% FOR TRANSPORTATION, 17% FOR HEALTHCARE AND MENTAL HEALTHCARE, 4% FOR JOBS.
AND AS YOU'VE REVIEWED YOUR APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, AGENCIES REQUESTING ASSISTANCE WITH HOUSING AND HEALTHCARE.
SO AS WE GO THROUGH, ARE YOU ALL READY TO, UM, SHOW US WHAT THE COMPILATION OF THE SCORES LOOK LIKE? SURE THING.
UH, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY THAT SHARED THEIR SHEETS, UH, WITH US.
UM, EMILY, UH, PUT THESE TOGETHER, MUCH LIKELY YOU SAW LAST YEAR, UH, WE LIST THE AGENCY, WHAT THE SCORE WAS, WHAT THE AVERAGE IS, WHAT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS, AND WHAT THIS YEAR'S REQUESTING.
AND IT'S LIKE WE READ YOUR MIND.
MADAME CHAIR, WE PUT A CATEGORY ON THESE AS WELL, UM, TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW OF WHICH ONES OF WHAT SERVICES, THEIR OVERALL SERVICES.
THE HIGHLIGHTED GREEN ONE IS OUR TOP, UH, RANKING ONE.
UH, SO THIS IS OUT OF AN AVERAGE OF A HUNDRED.
UM, THE ORANGE ARE EITHER NEW SERVICES, SO BRAND NEW TO EVER APPLYING FOR CARC AND OR NEW PROGRAMMING.
AND SO WE DID HIGHLIGHT HOPE CENTER OF EDMOND.
AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS NEW PROGRAMMING THEY'VE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR YOU ALL IN THE PAST.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR EITHER RENTALS, I'M, I'M SORRY, FOOD PANTRY LAST YEAR.
AND IN YEARS PRIOR IT WAS UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE VERY BOTTOM ONE IS THE LOWEST TO AVERAGE ONE.
UM, SO WE ARE, UM, WE ADDED UP, I JUST WANNA VERIFY THIS TOTAL REAL QUICK 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE OVER THAT.
UM, SO LET ME FIX THE TOTAL REAL QUICK.
SO, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE STARTING WITH AND ASK.
AND AGAIN, YOUR TOTAL IS $1 MILLION.
THAT IS A HARD, HARD STOP OF A MILLION.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 1.1 MILLION IN ASKS, SO WE CAN, LAST YEAR, JUST AS A REMINDER, I THINK YOU ALL SET, YOU DISCUSSED WHAT YOUR BREAKING POINT WAS GONNA BE.
UM, LAST YEAR I THINK YOU DID ABOVE WHATEVER, I THINK IT WAS 70, 75, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU AUTOMATICALLY FUNDED THOSE FULLY AND THEN YOU CHOSE TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF 'EM.
YOU WENT THROUGH ALL OF 'EM, BUT YOU CHOSE THEN FROM THERE THAT THEY WOULD GET A PORTION.
UM, YOU DID NOT FUND ONE LAST YEAR OUT OF, I THINK WE HAD 22 APPLICANTS.
SO YOU DID FUND 21 APPLICANTS LAST YEAR.
AND WE'RE STARTING WITH 27 THIS YEAR.
SO LET'S LOOK AT STARTING WITH EVERYBODY IN THAT RATED 90 OR ABOVE.
AND LET'S, UM, TALK ABOUT THOSE THAT REQUESTED AN INCREASE AND IF WE FELT LIKE THAT INCREASE WAS WARRANTED BY THEIR APPLICATIONS.
NOW, ED EDMOND, FAMILY COUNSELING, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY REQUESTED A DECREASE AND, AND THEY'RE REALLY HELPING US OUT WITH THESE NUMBERS.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FUND THEM AS REQUESTED.
AND EVERYBODY THAT DIDN'T ASK FOR AN INCREASE ARE, I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD FUND THEM AS REQUESTED.
ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DECREASE IN FUNDING OF THE, OF THE TOP NINE, OF THE TOP, THE 90%.
SO EVERYBODY THAT REQUESTED, UM, NO INCREASE.
LET'S SEE WHAT, LET'S, LET'S FUND THEM.
CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? MM-HMM
UM, MADAM CHAIR, UM, THE BREAKOUT THAT YOU GAVE ON THE PERCENTAGES, WAS THAT THE NUMBER OF, IS THAT A NEED PERCENTAGE BASED OFF A SURVEY THAT WAS DONE? I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING.
UM, CHRISTIE, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? UM, SO, UM, EDMOND CONNECT IS OUR RESOURCE COALITION
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THAT WE'VE STARTED RECENTLY AND WE DID A POLL TO THEM OF WHAT RESOURCES.A LOT OF IT'S MADE UP OF CLARK MEMBERS, UM, OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS OR OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE DO WITH OTHER PROGRAMMING WITH.
AND WE SURVEYED THEM TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT WAS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN SECOND WAS TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AND THEN THIRD WAS JOBS, I THINK, UM, UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ID.
SO I WILL, I MEAN, I WILL PUT THIS RECOMMENDATION OUT.
UM, I THINK IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL SINCE THAT IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY KIND OF SAID THAT WE EXPLORE THOSE APPLICATIONS FIRST THAT ARE ADDRESSING HOUSING NEEDS TO SEE IF WE WANT TO EITHER, UM, LOOK AT FUNDING EITHER THEIR SPECIFIC REQUESTS OR INCREASING THAT REQUEST.
SINCE THAT WE, THE COMMUNITY HAS IDENTIFIED THAT AS A, AS A CRITICAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY SO FAR.
I MEAN, BUT THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD THROW OUT THERE.
BUT COMMISSION MEMBERS, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT DOING THAT? I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO FUND, THERE MAY BE SOME THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT WE MIGHT WANNA FUND MORE THAN WHAT THEY'VE REQUESTED, BUT I AM NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF HOW MUCH MORE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO SAY THAT WE KNOW.
SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.
UM, BUT I COULD BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE.
SO JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, EVERYBODY ABOVE 90% YOU WANTED, IF THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR AN INCREASE, YOU WANTED TO FUND THEM FULLY, IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YES, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION, YES.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, I DID THAT REAL QUICK.
UM, EVERYBODY THAT DID NOT ASK FOR A RE UH, INCREASE, WE FUNDED THEM FULLY.
AND YOU ARE SITTING AT, UH, 496,000 SPENT.
THE, UM, WITH CORY'S SUGGESTION, COULD WE JUST DO A QUICK LOOK THROUGH VERIFYING THAT THEY MEET SOME OF THE PRIORITIES? I MEAN, LIKE, I MEAN AS QUICK AS EDMOND FAMILY COUNSELING HEALTH CHECK NEXT, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THERE'S ANY PLACE FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
INSTEAD OF JUST AUTOMATICALLY, UM, LIKE RECOMMENDING THAT, GOING THROUGH EVEN THE TOP 90% ABOVE AND OR 90 POINTS ABOVE AND JUST VERIFYING THE ONES THAT ARE ASKING FOR THE SAME OR LESS THIS YEAR.
KEEPING IN MIND THOSE CATEGORIES AND PRIORITIES.
SO I CAN CALL 'EM OFF IF YOU WANT AND THEN THAT WAY YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT IN THE LIST.
UM, EDMOND FAMILY CO COUNSELING, YOU DID RECOMMEND FOR THEM AND THEY ASKED FOR ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THEY ASKED FOR LAST YEAR.
THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR AN INCREASE.
AND SO TECHNICALLY FOOD ISN'T LISTED, BUT I THINK WE AGREE THAT'S A PRIORITY AND IT'S WITHIN THE CRITERIA OF OUR FUNDING.
SO, UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO JUST THE ONES THAT I'VE ALREADY PUT IN OR YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH? JUST OKAY, NEXT ONE WOULD BE EDMOND, YMCA, UH, 15,000.
THE, I WANTED TO CLARIFY, THE FUNDS THEY REQUESTED WERE FOR KIND OF, THEY WERE, IT WAS FOR SUBSIDIZING MEMBERSHIPS AND THEN THEY BROUGHT UP SPECIFICALLY JUST INFORMATIONALLY, HERE'S OUR WEEKEND FOOD PROGRAM.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS NOT THE FOOD PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY WE WERE FUNDING.
SCHOLARSHIPS FOR MEMBERSHIPS, SCHOLARSHIPS AND PROGRAMS. AND ACTIVITIES AS THEY SAY.
YEAH, I THINK THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE ALSO LIKE AFTERCARE CAMPS.
WHERE DOES THAT FALL? WHAT WOULD WE SAY THAT IS? UM, DOES THAT ALIGN WITH ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES? I, IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE, THE TOP THAT WERE IDENTIFIED HOWEVER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THE, UM, OUR SCORING, EVIDENTLY WE FEEL THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT PROGRAM.
JUST TO BE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ON THIS ONE, I SCORED 'EM A HUNDRED OBVIOUSLY, SO VERY, I MEAN, I'M SPEAK HIGHLY OF THEM FOR SURE, BUT IF IT'S NOT IN THE NEED SET AND THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE OTHER FUNDRAISING CAPABILITIES
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AND WE NEED TO CUT SOMEWHERE, I WOULD JUST SAY MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS A PLACE TO CUT.I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DO IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT DOESN'T FIT PRIORITIES.
THEY HAVE OTHER FUNDRAISING CAPABILITIES.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, BEING NEW, I'M, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT SAY THINGS THAT MAYBE DON'T MAKE SENSE, BUT TO ME, I KIND OF ALSO WANT TO GO WITH GIVING IF IT'S, IF THIS FUND IS FROM TAXPAYER DOLLARS FROM EDMOND KNIGHTS, I FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE 100% GIVING BACK TO EDMOND NEED TO GET MORE MONEY.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, WELL, WE SERVE THE WHOLE STATE, OR OH, WE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS EXACTLY, BUT I WANNA LIKE MAKE SURE THAT THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BENEFITING OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, AND I'LL SPEAK ON A LITTLE ON THAT.
I, AND I SHOULD HAVE KIND OF BROUGHT THIS UP YESTERDAY, I THOUGHT AFTER I SPOKE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS REMEMBER THINGS.
UM, SO WE REQUIRE THEM AT YOUR ALL'S REQUEST.
AND SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH OTHER PROGRAMMING, THEY DO HAVE TO GIVE US AN INVOICE AND THEY DO HAVE TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR INVOICE TO US MONTHLY.
UM, AND SO EVEN THOSE THAT, FOR INSTANCE, I'M NOT PICKING ON ANYONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT SHE'S FOSTERING STREET DREAMS COMES UP, THEY SERVE AND SHE SAID 77 COUNTIES, BUT SHE DOES PROVIDE US THE NUMBER THAT THEY SERVE IN EDMOND AND THE COST OF THOSE BEDS FOR THE ONES THEY SERVE IN EDMOND.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE FACILITY IS NOT LOCATED IN EDMOND IN PARTICULAR, UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY'RE NOT SERVING EDMOND RESIDENCE.
AND EVEN HEARTLINE TELLS US THE RESIDENCE THAT THEY COME IN CONTACT WITH IN THEIR TWO ONE ONE WHEN THEY CALL 2 1 1.
SO I CAN'T SU I MEAN WE CAN SUBSTANTIATE THAT, BUT I CAN'T SU TO YOUR POINT, I CAN'T SUBSTANTIATE THE REST OF IT.
SO IF THAT HELPS DO YOU OR MEDALS IT? I'M JUST WAS LETTING YOU KNOW, WE DO ASK FOR, FOR DOCUMENTATION AND THEY DO HAVE TO QUARTERLY REPORT TO US AS WELL.
DO YOU MEAN ORGANIZATIONS THAT OVERALL SUPPORT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF EDMOND OR JUST SPECIFICALLY WITH THESE DOLLARS? I JUST, YEAH, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND LIKE HOW WE DECIDE, LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE, WHAT WAS IT CALLED? ONE THAT'S LIKE, SOUNDS GREAT BUT I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.
IT'S LIKE A HOUSING INFORMATION.
WHAT WAS THAT ONE CALLED? SHE WAS LIKE A HOUSING SERVICES.
LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES.
IS THAT GOING THAT FOR INSTANCE, THAT ONE I WAS LIKE, WAIT, IS THIS SERVING THE STATE? IS IT SERVING? THEY, THEY DO SERVE THE STATE.
HOWEVER, SHE DID INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE AND TELL US HOW MANY EDMOND RESIDENTS ARE BEING SERVED.
SO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROVIDES, UM, HOMEOWNER COUNSELING.
SO WHEN YOU APPLY FOR LIKE OUR HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE THROUGH CDVG, WE REQUIRE YOU TO GO THROUGH A HOME BUYER'S CLASS.
UM, AND SO THE, I MEAN, AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW US THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THAT SERVICE FOR SO MANY EDMOND RESIDENTS, BUT THAT IS A SERVICE THEY DO PROVIDE FOR OUR, OUR POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS.
AND HAVEN'T WE RESTRICTED MONEY IN THE PAST? WE SAY THAT THIS IS JUST FOR THE PROGRAM THAT SERVES EDMOND.
SO MAYBE THAT'S SOME WE CAN HELP.
YEAH, AND SEVERAL SAID THAT THAT, AND WE DO PUT IT IN THEIR CONTRACTS THAT THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT FOR EDMOND RESIDENTS.
SO IT IS IN THERE AND THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT.
I MEAN, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING RISK BY BY THAT.
'CAUSE I'M LIKE, THEY ALL SOUND AMAZING, BUT ALSO IF MY JOB IS TO SERVE THE EDMOND TAXPAYER, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M DOING WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.
THE EVENTS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, UM, THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY.
YOU YOU SEE OF ENDEAVOR, THEY'RE USING OUR FACILITIES.
IT'S HERE IN EDMOND, BUT LIKE, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE I WAS THINKING OF THAT WOULD ROUNDUP? ROUNDUP CLUB.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THE EVENTS HERE, IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF, TYPE OF SITUATION.
BUT YOU CAN'T LIKE, SAY YOU'RE ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT COME TO THAT ARE ALL ADMIN, YOU KNOW, SO THE EVENTS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THE SERVICES ONES YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, TRACK AND THE EVENTS, UH, GENERALLY AFFECT OUR, OUR SALES TAX DOLLARS.
AND UM, SO THEY DO BRING REVENUE IN AND I THINK STAFF AND, AND THIS COMMISSION HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF ENSURING THAT THE AGENCIES THAT WE FUND ACTUALLY SERVE EDMOND RESIDENTS.
NOW THEY MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, EDMOND RESIDENTS MAY NOT BE 100% OF THEIR CLIENTS, BUT UM, THEY ARE FUNDED, THEY ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TO EDMOND RESIDENTS AND WE LOOK AT THAT PERCENTAGE BASED ON, UM, THEIR REQUEST.
SO I JUST HIGHLIGHTED THE YMCA ONE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE THAT WE MAY WANNA GO BACK TO.
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UM, 'CAUSE IT MEETS THE CURRENT CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.NEXT ONE IS EDMUND PUBLIC SCHOOL FOUNDATION.
UM, JUST STOP ME IF Y'ALL WANNA TALK THAT WAY I KNOW TO STOP.
THE NEXT ONE IS YOU ARE SPECIAL.
UM, AGAIN, THEY ARE IN OTHER CATEGORY AS WELL.
EDMUND FINE ARTS INSTITUTE IS IN, UH, COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT.
TURNING POINT MINISTRIES IS HOUSING, PEACEFUL FAMILY SOLUTIONS IS MENTAL HEALTH.
THE UCAO ENDEAVOR GAMES IS COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT.
FOLDS OF HONOR IS IN ANOTHER CATEGORY.
I WANNA COMMENT ON FOLDS OF HONOR.
UM, IF WE'RE LIKE KIND OF FLAGGING ONES, I WOULD LIKE TO FLAG IT.
UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT ONLY BENEFITS TWO MEMBER RESIDENTS OF EDMOND, UM, WITH THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS.
AGAIN, I SCORED IT FAIRLY HIGH, BUT JUST IF WE HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.
EDMOND ROUNDUP CLUB, UH, FOR 10,000 IN ITS COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT.
AND THE LAST ONE, UH, ABOVE THE 90 IS OASIS CLUBHOUSE.
UH, THEY ACTUALLY ASKED FOR 2000 LESS
AND I WILL SAY I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE JOBS, BUT IT'S A GREAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
THE PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE IN THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE SKEPTICAL WHEN WE, UM, FUNDED THEM LAST YEAR, BUT THEY CAME THROUGH.
ALRIGHT, SO LET, LET, LET'S GET THE, THESE OUT OF THE WAY.
THE ONES THAT WE FLAGGED IN THE NINETIES.
AND THAT WOULD BE EDMUND YMCA FOLDS OF HONOR.
SO BEING A FIRST TIMER, LIKE WHEN I WAS GRADING THE THINGS, YOU GO THROUGH THIS FORM AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU KIND OF GET THESE POINTS BASED ON HOW YOU FEEL THEY FALL.
BUT LIKE A LOT OF THESE FOUNDATIONS ARE HEAVILY FUNDED BY A LOT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR BALANCE SHEET, THERE'S SEVERAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THERE.
AND THEN SOME OF THIS, THIS IS LIKE A LIFELINE TO 'EM.
SO MY HEART PERSONALLY IS LIKE FOR SMALLER, YOU KNOW, MOM AND POP BUSINESS TYPE OF, UM, NOT THAT THIS IS BUSINESS NON-PROFIT, BUT LIKE THE SMALLER GUYS THAT REALLY DEPEND ON THIS, THAT CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND COMPARED TO A LOT OF THESE HAVE LIKE, MEGA FUNDING AND PEOPLE BEYOND.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I, I REALLY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION WITH SOME OF MY SCORES AS WELL.
SO WOULD YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? UM, AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP OF A DECREASE IN THE FUNDING TOO.
WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THESE SOMETIMES, UM, MAYBE MY BIAS IS TOWARD SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE REALLY ESTABLISHED AND REALLY PROFESSIONALIZED.
LIKE WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING THE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.
LIKE, NOT TO SAY THE SMALLER ONES YEAH.
YOU KNOW, AREN'T SET UP TO DO THAT.
BUT LIKE, I JUST, I, I FEEL MORE CONFIDENT SOMETIMES.
AND LIKE THE REALLY ESTABLISHED FOOD BANKS OR THE, I DUNNO, JUST PLAYED DEVIL'S A ADVOCATE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS YEAH.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE ONES THAT WE PRIORITIZE ARE THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING WITH THE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION AND HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH STUFF.
UM, ON THE BACK OF MY FORMS, I, I UNDERLINED LIKE WHY I GRADED IT.
SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE
I UNDERLINED KIND OF LIKE, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF WHY POINTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOCKED.
I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A PICTURE OF THOSE.
MIGHT BE EASIER FOR ME IF WE GAVE MONEY FIRST AND THEN TOOK MONEY AWAY.
CUT IT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE SO EARLY
SO LET'S DO THIS, UH, ON, ON ON OUR TOP AGENCIES, UM, FOR THE MOMENT, UM, LET'S JUST FUND THEM LAST YEAR'S FUNDING.
AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT, OKAY.
SO THE ONES THAT WERE FUNDED LAST YEAR GO THROUGH AND GIVE THEM A SPECIAL, GIVE THEM A SPECIAL COLOR.
SO SOME THESE ARE ONES THEN THE MAJORITY OF THESE ASK FOR AN INCREASE.
AND SO WE JUST WANT, LET'S PUT THEM BACK IN LAST YEAR'S FUNDED AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS LAST YEAR'S.
AND THEN FLAG THEM
'CAUSE LAST YEAR, UM, ONCE WE MADE ALL OUR DECISIONS, WE WERE ACTUALLY
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CONSIDERABLY UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS OR MAYBE 50,000.AND SO AT THE END WE WENT AND JUST LIKE SAID, HERE'S HERE'S 5,000 FOR YOU.
AND SO SOME, SOME AGENCIES MIGHT JUST BE LIKE, OH, THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY TO GIVE.
LET'S, LET'S SAY 5,000 MORE THIS YEAR.
BUT WE'RE, WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT SPOT THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, I WILL SAY LIKE WITH BOYS RANCH TOWN, I, I REMEMBER LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 5,000, UM, OUR HESITANCY OR WAS LIKE, IT WAS JUST GOING INTO A GENERAL BUDGET.
UM, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC ASK.
I I DO THINK THEY HAD A MUCH MORE TARGETED REQUESTS THIS YEAR.
SO I I SEE THAT'S WHY THEY WENT UP A LOT.
UM, BUT UM, YEAH, SO IT MY MERIT THINKING MORE THAN 2,500 FOR THEM.
AND IN ESSENCE, MOST OF THE AGENCIES GOT AN INCREASE LAST YEAR.
SO THEY ASKED FOR 2,500 LAST, OR YOU REWARDED 2,500 LAST YEAR.
THIS YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 16,000.
I THOUGHT NO, WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
WE'RE SO BY, BY DOING THAT, THERE WERE 1, 2, 3, 5 AGENCIES.
UM, AND YOU ARE, AND THAT'S JUST THE TOP 90.
UM, IF YOU WANNA GO CONTINUE WITH, UM, THERE'S THREE MORE THAT YOU FUNDED LAST YEAR THAT ARE BELOW THE 90%, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SITTING AT 773,500.
SO WE HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX FIVE.
SO NOW, UM, OOH, UH, I LIKE BOYS RANCH TOWN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THEIR MONEY TOWARDS NEW BEDS AND THAT KIND OF GOES IN THE HOUSING FOR ME.
AND AND HE HAD A VERY SPECIFIC BUDGET FOR THAT AND HE EXACTLY, UM, BUDGETED HAVING 32 NEW BEDS FOR ALL THE BOYS.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A PART OF HOUSING IN A WAY.
AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
WELL, I CAN AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M, I'M WILLING TO GO A WHOLE 16,000 FOR THAT DEPENDING ON, UM, WHAT WE DO.
LET, LET'S GO DOWN AND LOOK AT, UM, THE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT WE DID NOT FUND OUR, OUR NEW ONES AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
HOUSING, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES AND MISSION 1, 4 3.
SO I HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS ONE.
SO I KNOW, UM, HOPE CENTERS AT THE VERY TOP AND THEY, THEIR APPLICATION WAS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
BUT I STRUGGLED WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF PARTIAL PAYMENTS BECAUSE PART OF NO LANDLORD WILL ACCEPT A PARTIAL PAYMENT.
UM, AND IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE FULL RENT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO THINK THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL THREE OR $200 TO, TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME IF, IF YOU'RE FACING AN EVICTION.
SO I, I STRUGGLED WITH THE RESPONSE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND IS THAT THE ONE YOU WANTED TO FUND MORE? NO, NO.
I WAS THINKING OF LIKE, UH, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH, I WAS LOOKING AT MISSION, WHAT WAS IT? 1, 4, 3? I THINK ONE LIKE THEIR, THEIR WHOLE MODEL WAS WE WANT TO PREVENT EVICTION.
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY STATED, HEY, WE, WE FUND THE FULL AMOUNT.
WE, OUR GOAL IS TO PREVENT, UH, DISPLACEMENT.
AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER INCREASE THAT AMOUNT ABOVE THEIR ASK BECAUSE THEY DO THAT.
AND IF THE NUMBER ONE NEED THAT WE GOT FROM THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT WAS HOUSING RELATED ISSUES, I WOULD RATHER PREVENT HOUSING PROBLEMS THAN A PORTION OF HOUSING PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST, WELL I MIGHT BE MISREMEMBERING, BUT DIDN'T WHEN MISSION 1 4 3 SAY THEY WORK WITH HOPE CENTER.
LIKE HOPE CENTER OFTEN REFERS PEOPLE TO THEM OR THEY DO.
BUT THAT, AND THAT'S THE PART THAT I WAS WORK, LIKE WHY WOULD I HAVE TO GO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO TWO ORGANIZATIONS PROCESSES TO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE WHEN I COULD JUST GO TO MISSION 1, 4 3 AND GET THE FULL THING FUNDED.
I GUESS MY ONE HESITANCY, I MEAN, ONE HESITANCY I WOULD HAVE WAS LIKE GIVING THEM A LOT MORE AND HOPE CENTER A LOT LESS IS AGAIN, LIKE HOPE CENTER'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
LIKE THEY, THEY'RE, WHEREAS WHAT IS A MISSION 1, 4 3 KIND OF LIKE A BRAND, LIKE A FAIRLY NEW STARTUP.
LIKE THEY, THEY MAY NOT BE IF WE GAVE THEM LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO, BUT, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME WORK TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUILD UP THEIR OPERATIONS.
WELL, AND THEN I JUST THINK TOO, LIKE THE ARBITRARIANISTS I, I'VE REFERRED A LOT AND I THINK THIS IS MAYBE FROM JUST PERSONAL, LIKE, UM, I DUNNO HOW TO PHRASE THIS WITHOUT SEEMING BIAS, BUT
LIKE THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S FRAMED AS LIKE A SLIDING SCALE, WHICH ALLOWS BIAS TO, TO INFLUENCE THAT, IN MY OPINION, HAVING HAVE WORKED IN HOUSING PROGRAMS WHERE UM, I MAY BE MORE LENIENT TO GIVE ONE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE OR
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MORE ASSISTANCE THAN OTHERS.AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE ARBITRARY RULES LIKE THAT, YOU CAN, YOU OPEN THE DOOR FOR DISCRIMINATION ON MULTITUDE OF FACTORS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M ALSO STRUGGLING OF SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU'RE ONLY GONNA GIVE PARTIAL ASSISTANCE AND THEN WHATEVER RATE YOU DO GIVE IS ARBITRARILY DECIDED BASED ON WHATEVER FACTORS YOU DEEM NECESSARY AND NOTHING THAT SOMEONE CAN VISIBLY LOOK AND SEE, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE CONSTITUENTS WHEN, IF I KNOW I'M FACING EVICTION OR I'M FACING DISPLACEMENT, I WANT TO GO TO A PARTNER THAT CAN ASSIST ME FULLY AND AND NOT HAVE THE ARBITRARINESS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN THAT WITH, WITH THAT I KIND OF WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO EVERY DAY.
UM, I THOUGHT SHE SAID AT HOPE CENTER THAT THEY LOOK AT INCOME AND THAT THE SLIDING SCALE IS BASED ON INCOME.
AND THEN TWO, MOST OF THE TIME, AND THIS COULD, I MEAN MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE ASK THEM, THERE'S USUALLY A MAX AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN SPEND PER PERSON.
BECAUSE IF YOUR MORTGAGE IS $5,000 AND MY MORTGAGE IS A THOUSAND, EVEN THOUGH WE MAKE THIS SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FUND YOURS FULLY WHERE WE COULD FULL MY, WHERE WE COULD FUND MINE FULLY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
SO COMMISSIONERS, IF I COULD SPEAK ON BOTH, ON BOTH PROGRAMS. SO ON HOPE CENTER TO YOUR POINT, THEY DO 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW.
UM, SO THEY DO HAVE TO SHOW INCOME QUALIFICATIONS FOR THEIR PROGRAM.
THEY DO A MAX PER FAMILY OR PER INDIVIDUAL PER YEAR.
AND IT'S PRIMARILY TO MAKE THEIR DOLLARS STRETCH THAT IS TOTAL ASSISTANCE.
SO IF YOU GET UTILITY ASSISTANCE FROM THEM OR YOU GET RENTAL ASSISTANCE, YOU CAN KIND OF CHOOSE BUT YOU CAN'T GO OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
UM, THEY SET THAT, THAT IS NOT SET BY ANY ANYBODY ELSE.
THE ONLY REGULATION THAT THEY HAD IS WHEN THEY USE CDBG MONEY WE CAN ONLY DO SO MANY MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE.
UM, AND SO, BUT THEY DO IT MONETARILY FOR THE YEAR PROGRAM.
UM, MISSION 1 4 3 IS NEW, UH, NEW-ISH.
SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS UH, ON HER OWN WITH THE HELP OF FRIENDS PER SE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SHE JUST RECENTLY BROUGHT IT INTO NEW COVENANT TO KIND OF HAVE THAT 5 0 1 C3 AND, AND START THAT SEED.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE STARTING TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON OUR IN-HOUSE POPULATION AND THE OUTREACH AS WELL AS GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED.
THE CLIENTELE THAT SHE COMES IN CONTACT ARE MORE SO THEY'RE ALREADY UNHOUSED.
HOPE CENTER WILL NOT PROVIDE ASSISTANCE IN OUR EXPERIENCE AND UNLESS YOU ARE HOUSED NOW AND HAVE THEIR PROGRAM IS MORE FOR THE EVICTION OR PAST DUE.
WHEREAS MISSION 1 4 3 IS FOR THOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE UNHOUSED, YOU KNOW, COUCH SURFING OR IN THEIR CARS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMMING.
WELL, AND I WAS JUST GONNA SAY BOTH PROGRAMS, LIKE I OBVIOUSLY I AM BIASED 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO EVERY DAY.
BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF BOTH FOR SURE.
AND ESPECIALLY FROM LIKE A HOMELESS ALLIANCE STANDPOINT, IT'S SO HUGE.
PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK IT'S ALL OF OKLAHOMA, BUT IT'S ONLY OKLAHOMA COUNTY.
WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM EDMOND CALL ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE TO TELL 'EM NO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THAT PARTICULAR OKLAHOMA CITY ZIP CODE AREA.
SO I THINK TO YOUR POINT, CHRISTIE, THE MISSION 1 4 3 HELPS WITH LIKE HOTELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET SO THAT THEY CAN BE STABLE ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR HOUSING AND THEN HOPE IS HELPING THEM STAY IN HOUSING.
AND HOW THEY PARTNER FOR, SO WHEN THEY LIKE CALL HOPE CENTER AND THE SAMARITAN HOUSE, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SAMARITAN HOUSE AS WELL IS IF, UH, UM, THEY'LL GO, OKAY, WELL WE'LL GIVE YOU 300 IF YOU CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH, 'CAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I WANNA SAY SWEAT IN THE GAME, BUT I MEAN IF, IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, MISSION 1 4 3 ALSO WILL TRY TO GET YOU INTO STABLE HOUSING.
SO THEY ARE ACTIVELY HELPING YOU TRY TO FIND A PLACE AND HELPING WITH DEPOSITS AND STUFF.
SO THEY UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR FUNDING FOR THAT.
HOPE CENTER WILL DO THAT ONLY IF THE CLIENT DOES THE LEGWORK.
UM, AND THEY WILL HELP WITH A DEPOSIT, UM, IN FIRST MONTH'S RENT SOMETIMES, BUT AGAIN, MAXED OUT THEN THEY CAN'T HAVE ANY OTHER ASSISTANCE.
LEANNE, I WOULD DESCRIBE YOU NOT AS BIASED BUT EXPERIENCED IN EXPERTISE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, I, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MISSION 1 4 3, UM, SOUNDS GREAT TO ME.
UM, AS A FIRST TIME ORGANIZATION AND AN ORGANIZATION WITH ONLY A $100,000 BUDGET, I FEEL LIKE 20,000 MAY BE TOO MUCH TO FUND ON THE INITIAL YEAR.
UM, ESPECIALLY FROM LIKE A DEPENDENCY STANDPOINT IF THEY CONTINUE TO EXPECT TO GET THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THE THING THAT I LIKED ABOUT, UH, MISSION 1, 4 3 IS THAT THEY DO WRAPAROUND CASE MANAGEMENT
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AND A LOT OF OUR UNHOUSED PEOPLE NEED MORE THAN JUST A PLACE TO LIVE.THEY NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES AND TO KEEP THAT.
AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I SAW THAT WAS DIFFERENT, UM, IN THEIR APPLICATION THAT, THAT I LIKED.
SO IF WE, IF WE CAN JUST START, LET'S JUST START WITH THE 20 THAT THEY ASKED.
IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THAT? STEP ONE.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES.
COULD I INTERJECT? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING BUT ME WANTING IT TO LOOK RIGHT.
HEAR YOU ON OKLAHOMA PROJECT WOMAN.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED TOO, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THE OKLAHOMA PROJECT WOMAN NEEDS TO BE THE SAME COLOR AS THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T GET MONEY LAST YEAR BECAUSE NO, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THEM YET.
SO WITH NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, UM, THE THING THAT I THINK THAT I PICKED UP ON THAT I MISSED FROM READING OUR APPLICATION WAS THAT THEY ACTUALLY WORK WITH HOMEOWNERS AND THAT THEY TARGET SENIORS AND TO HELP SENIORS NOT LOSE THEIR HOMES.
AND SO I THINK THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT LOCATED, THEIR OFFICES ARE NOT LOCATED, THEY ARE A STATEWIDE AGENCY.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU SERVE EDMOND RESIDENTS, BUT I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE EDMOND HOMEOWNERS WHO NEED SOME ASSISTANCE.
SO I'M IN FAVOR FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.
I'M, I'M NOT EXACTLY AT THE 50,000 FUNDING LEVEL.
WELL, AND THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY CONCERNED ME WAS THAT THEY SAID IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EXPAND IN EDMOND, BUT THEY DID NOT SAY THAT THE MONEY WOULD EXCLUSIVELY BE USED FOR EDMOND.
AND SO I I WASN'T CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO WITH THEIR MONEY.
AND I, I WOULD'VE, I I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO SAY, COULD WE RESTRICT THAT FOR USE FOR ADMIN RESIDENCE ONLY? YES, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THEIR CONTRACT.
SHE DID MENTION THAT PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER TO EDMOND TO DO THE SEMINARS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD KEEP PEOPLE FROM, LIKE IF THEY COME TO THE, TO THE SEMINAR TO THE SEMINAR AND YOU'D SAY, OH, YOU'RE FROM MGE.
WELL SORRY, YOU CAN'T COME IN.
SO USUALLY WITH THOSE PROGRAMS, SO THE, THE, THE PROGRAMMING THEY DO IS THE HOME BUYER EDUCATION PROGRAMMING.
SO IT'S USUALLY TIED TO AN FHA HOME LOAN THAT THEY'RE GETTING THAT THEY HAVE TO, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE THE COURSE.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT CLASS, DON'T THEY? THE HOME BUYERS? WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE COST, BUT, UM, OR IT'S FREE.
SOME OF 'EM ARE FREE, SOME OF 'EM HAVE A COST.
I DON'T KNOW THE, THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ORGANIZATION, BUT UM, THEY CAN'T REJECT THEM IF THEY DO COME TO THE CLASS.
'CAUSE IT IS A FEDERALLY, PARTIALLY FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM.
WELL SHE DID SAY THAT CURRENTLY 26% OF THEIR CLIENTS ARE EDMOND RESIDENTS.
SO THEY ARE SERVING EDMOND RESIDENTS NOW.
I THINK WHEN SHE CLARIFIED IN HER PRESENTATION THAT THE FUNDING THAT SHE WAS REQUESTING, WHAT WAS ALLOWING THEM TO EXPAND THEIR PROGRAMMING OR NEW PROGRAMMING IN EDMOND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CENTERED AROUND, UM, INSURANCE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER COST THAT WAS RISING MORTGAGE OR SOMETHING.
THERE WAS NO, SO THING, SOMETHING I KNEW, I KNEW THE OTHER ONE'S.
A PREVENTING SENIORS FROM LOSING THEIR HOMES.
SO THE PROPERTY TAX AND LIENS AND D WHICH IS SHOCKINGLY AN INCREASING ISSUE THAT'S COMING UP.
BUT TO MARSH'S POINT, I BELIEVE TO OUR CHAIR'S POINT, THE $50,000 MARK IS A LITTLE MUCH NOT REALLY AT LIKE, ESPECIALLY FOR A FIRST YEAR ORGANIZATION.
I THINK LIKE, LET'S SEE HOW IT WORKS FIRST AND THEN, AND THEY'RE ESTABLISHING, THEY THEY HAVE RENTAL INCOME AS WELL.
UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO AT LEAST GET THEM ESTABLISHED OR EXPANDED IN EDMOND, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AT 50,000 BUCKS.
SO WHAT DO WE THINK IS A FAIR AMOUNT FOR ESTABLISHED HALF 30, 40
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I'M LOOKING AT, THEY GET A LOT OF MONEY FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES.A HEAVY AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR IF THEY GET FEDERAL INCOME AND ALL OTHER KINDS OF INCOME.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THE REPORTS AFTER A YEAR AND THE IMPACT YES.
TO FOR CONSIDER A LARGER AMOUNT.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY MY THOUGHT AS WELL.
SEE WHAT THEY DO ONCE THEY GET HERE.
I THINK, I THINK 28 IS A GOOD STARTING AMOUNT.
I THINK THAT'LL GIVE AT LEAST A MINIMUM NUMBER OF MAYBE 10 TO 20 PEOPLE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS.
AND SEEING WHAT THAT VOLUME LOOKS LIKE.
CHRISTIE AT THAT, UM, COMMUNITY GET TOGETHER WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NEEDS.
WERE THERE SPECIFICS ABOUT HOUSING? 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT POPULATIONS THAT ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT HOUSING ISSUES AND LIKE THIS NSO WOULD BE SENIORS.
IT WAS WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME.
SO ARE WE ONLY OUR HOMEOWNERS? YES.
SO TO ANSWER, YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE NEED FOR HOUSING, IT RANGES FROM, FROM SENIOR HOUSING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH YOU COULD ARGUE THAT SENIORS ARE NEEDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING 'CAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO DOWNSIDE.
UM, THAT IT WAS THE NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE OUR UNHOUSED.
I, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY WE, WE, WE DON'T IN COMPARISON TO OKLAHOMA CITY, UM, HAVE A HOUSING, UH, UNHOUSED ISSUE OR A HIGH NUMBER.
UM, SO IT'S MANAGEABLE WITH WHAT WE DO.
UM, IT'S REALLY PREVENTING THAT EVICTION AND PREVENTING, UM, EVEN BEFORE THE EVICTION NOTICE.
I MEAN EVEN BEFORE A PAST DUE NOTICE.
UM, BUT THEN OUR SENIORS ARE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SENIOR HOUSING.
UM, AND SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT INFLUX AS WELL.
SO IT'S ALL TYPES OF, IT'S ALL ISSUES OF HOUSING.
I KNOW THAT DOESN'T HELP PINPOINT IT, BUT, WELL, I'M OKAY WITH CO UH, CORY'S RECOMMENDATION STARTING WITH THE, THE 20 MM-HMM
HOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING? LET'S START THERE.
SO WE HAVE ALL OF OUR HOUSING AGENCIES COVERED FOR, FOR NOW.
LET'S MOVE TO THE, THE HEALTH, HEALTHCARE, HEALTH AND MENTAL.
UH, SO MENTAL HEALTH, THE NEW ONE WOULD BE OKLAHOMA PROJECT WOMAN.
I KINDA STRUGGLED A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS PARTICULAR AGENCY BECAUSE WHAT THEY DO IS ISSUE VOUCHERS FOR SERVICES AND, AND SHE SAID THE CLINICS HAVE THEIR VOUCHERS.
SO TO ME, I'M NOT SURE I'D BE WILLING TO START WITH $8,000 FOR THEM.
WHAT, HOW COME IT WAS A PROBLEM? WHY DIDN'T YOU LIKE IT THAT THE CLINICS HAD THE VOUCHERS? I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, IT'S, I WOULD THINK THAT THE CLINICS WOULD BE PLEASED AND USE WHATEVER MONEY THEY GAVE THEM.
AND I'M NOT SURE HOW SHE CAME UP WITH THE $8,000 I CAN BUY THAT I, I WAS IN FAVOR.
UM, IT SEEMED TO ME ELEGANT, LIKE A REALLY EASY SOLUTION, UM, TO JUST HAVE SOME EXTRA FUNDING AVAILABLE AND THE CLINIC ALREADY KNOWS IT'S THERE.
UM, AND IT WAS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT TOO.
UNTIL WE STARTED ADDING THESE ALL UP, WE START ADDING EVERYBODY UP.
I MEAN TO, TO KIND OF ECHO, I, I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
PRIMARILY MINE, MY CONCERNS CENTERED MORE AROUND, UM, THE ACTUAL USABILITY IN EDMOND.
I MEAN GIVEN, UM, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME, MOST HAVE DUAL JOBS.
UM, I DIDN'T THINK, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE A LARGE PORTION OF THE POPULATION NEEDING THIS TYPE OF SERVICE.
'CAUSE MOST OF US ARE EITHER COVERED BY HEALTH INSURANCE OR SOME TYPE OF MEDICAL BENEFIT THAT COVERS THESE SERVICES.
UM, SO AT THE AMOUNT, I DON'T TO ECHO MARK'S CONCERNS, MINES JUST CAME FROM A DIFFERENT ONE.
I JUST DON'T THINK THE $8,000 MARK IS APPROPRIATE.
IS THERE DATA UNINSURED, UNDERINSURED THAT SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE DATA POINTS.
I CAN LOOK IT UP REAL QUICK IF YOU YES.
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AS MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE STATEWIDE AGENCIES.'CAUSE SHE TALKED ABOUT BEING LOCATED OUT OF, UH, TULSA.
SO WHAT THEY PRIMARILY DO, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS, OKAY, THIS CLINIC HERE'S X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS VOUCHERS.
AND IF YOU SEE A, A CLIENT COME IN THAT THAT NEEDS, THEN YOU CAN USE THEM.
SO AGAIN, TODAY ME, I LIKE THE CONCEPT, BUT I'M NOT AT $8,000 OF VOUCHERS.
I KIND OF, UM, I LIKED IT BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT THEY DON'T, THEY ONLY GIVE THE VOUCHERS TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, MEDICARE, MEDICAID.
AND THEY HAD TO BE BELOW POVERTY LEVEL.
AND SHE SAID THEY ALREADY ISSUED, UM, WHAT WAS IT, THEY ADDED A PARTNER CLINIC IN EDMOND AND SHE SAID THEY ONLY HAND OUT THE CLINICS IN EDMOND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY THAT IT'S ONLY EDMOND CLINICS BECAUSE A LOT OF WOMEN WON'T GO GET THEIR TEETH CLEANED WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, MUCH LESS GET A MAMMOGRAM.
AND BREAST CANCER IS EXTREMELY EASY TO GET RID OF IF YOU CATCH IT SOON ENOUGH.
BUT IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING, OH, I CAN'T AFFORD $250 TO GET THE, THE MAMMOGRAM, THEN THEY'RE GONNA DIE FOR BREAST CANCER.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY FIXED.
SO TO ME, LIKE THE $8,000 DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A LOT TO HELP ONLY EDMOND RESIDENTS THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
WELL I'M NOT SO SURE WOMEN GO TO A CLINIC 'CAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN GIVE A VOUCHER FOR THEIR SERVICES.
SO THEY HAVE SIX, IT LOOKS LIKE CLINICS IN EDMOND THAT THEY PARTNER WITH AND ONE OF THEM IS MINISTRIES OF JESUS, WHICH WE KNOW ONLY SERVES UNINSURED.
UM, AND WE FUNDED AND THEN, YEAH.
SO I MEAN I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE PROVIDED A BIT OF A PROOF OF CONCEPT FROM SINCE 2023.
AND EDMOND CERTAINLY, UM, LET'S SEE.
I'M LOOKING AT THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS, BUT I ALSO SEE THAT 8,000 WAS CALCULATED BASED OFF OF 35 RESIDENTS OF EDMOND.
MY QUESTION THAT I WILL HAVE JUST TO PLAN DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, IF THEN WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST GIVE THE MONEY TO MINISTRIES OF JESUS SO THEY COULD PERFORM MINISTRIES OF JESUS DOESN'T ISSUE VOUCHERS TO PRIVATE.
SO MINISTRIES OF JESUS DOESN'T PERFORM THE MAMMOGRAMS, I DON'T BELIEVE.
I THINK THEY WOULD OUTSOURCE TO A PRIVATE PROVIDER.
BUT THEY COME IN FOR SCREENINGS AND UM, DO THAT PROCESS GENERAL LIKE WOMEN'S HEALTH AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A RADIOLOGY FOR THE MAMMOGRAM.
I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD ARE TULSA RESIDENTS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UM, I'VE LEARNED, UM, FROM MY, UM, TENURE ON THE UNITED WAY IS YOU ALWAYS LOOK AT YOUR GOVERNANCE AND UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GOVERNANCE, YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THOSE.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES THE PROBLEMS THAT AGENCY HAVE COME FROM THEIR LACK OF GOVERNANCE OR INVOLVEMENT WITH GOVERNANCE.
SO, BUT ARE YOU SKEPTICAL OF TULSA PEOPLE? NOT I'M COMMISSIONER CHAIR, BUT I'M NOT SURE TULSA OF PEOPLE KNOW EDNA
BUT I'M, LIKE I SAID, I I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
I'M JUST NOT SUPPORT OF IT AT $8,000.
COULD WE START WITH THE 8,000 BUT MAKE THIS ONE OF THEM THAT HAS THE ASTERISK THAT WE MIGHT TAKE FROM LATER? I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I'M CURIOUS, UH, WHY YOU ALL FELT SO MUCH LOWER THAN I DID ON FAMILY THERAPY CLINIC.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE ON? YES.
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I ALSO DID A HIGHER SCORE OF 94.UM, AND THE ONLY THING I THOUGHT WAS TO CUT THE REQUEST FOR THE GRANT MANAGEMENT.
I THINK THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND THEY FEEL LIKE THE REQUIREMENTS OF REPORTING FOR THIS GRANT WOULD BE HIGHER.
WHICH I ALREADY THINK THEY'RE PRETTY DARN HIGH CONSIDERING THE AMOUNTS OF THESE GRANTS, BUT I THINK THEY JUST ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE WORK.
UM, IT'S STILL WORK, IT STILL TAKES AWAY FROM PROVIDER TIME, BUT UM, BUT YEAH, I SCORED HIGH AS WELL, SO I SCORED HIGH AS WELL.
AND THE, THE, THE REASON I THINK I'M AT A 92, I THINK IS WHAT I PUT.
UM, AND THE ONLY REASON I DEDUCTED IT WAS BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS LIKE A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF EDMOND RESIDENTS THAT THEY ALSO, THEY HAD A LOT OF OUTSIDE OF YEAH.
I THINK THEY SAID THEY, THEY SERVED 40%, 40% OF EDMUND RESIDENTS.
I THINK I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE 70.
I DON'T REMEMBER QUITE WHAT I, I RATED IT PRETTY LOW.
I SAID YEAH, I THINK, UH, TO, TO ANSWER A QUESTION OF WHY, UM, I THINK THE, THE CONCERN THAT I HAD WAS THE, THE GRANT MANAGEMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN IT.
UM, IT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE ASK.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF JUST THE, THE EXPERIENCE OF, OF DEALING WITH THAT, UM, WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY THAT REALLY IS.
WELL YEAH, THAT WAS MY CONCERN AS WELL.
I REMEMBER ASKING THEM ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SPEND, YOU GIVE US $65,000, ALL 65,000 SPENT ON FOOD YEAH.
BUT LIKE THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK JUST TO LIKE TRACK, YOU KNOW, THE, TO MEET THE GRANT, UM, REQUIREMENTS, BASICALLY LIKE GRANT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
SO WOULD YOU ALL BE UP FOR JUST PUTTING 25 IN AS A PLACEHOLDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR FIRST TIME LIKE THAT? YES.
WELL, YOU'RE DOING REALLY GOOD.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE MET WHEN IT, DURING ONE OF OUR VERY FIRST MEETINGS, WE HAD AN EXTENDED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH FUNDS CAN GO TO PERSONNEL.
BUT I'M KIND OF FORGETTING WHAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? IT WAS WHEN WE WERE REVISING THE ORDINANCE? YES.
I, THE INITIAL, 'CAUSE I WAS THE MORE CONSERVATIVE PART ON THE END OF SAYING NO POSITION SHOULD BE FUNDED WITH CLARK FUNDS, BUT THEY SAID YOU CAN'T RUN A PROGRAM WITHOUT PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE CONVERSATION OF SAYING LIKE, IT JUST HAD TO BE REASONABLE.
AND THEN I THINK PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS WE REQUESTED THAT YOU DEMONSTRATE THE ABILITY BEYOND CLARK FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT ROLE WITHOUT USING THE, THE DOLLARS FROM CLARK TO DO IT.
LIKE IT'S SOMEWHAT PROGRAMMATIC, I THINK.
UM, AND LIKE I WOULD STILL CONSIDER IT PROGRAMMATIC WHEN YOU HAVE SUPERVISION IN THESE PROGRAM.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SUPERVISOR IN ORDER TO GET THE COUNSELING HOURS UNDER SUPERVISION TO GET LICENSE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK IF SOMEONE WANTED LIKE AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FUNDRAISING OR THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR CRITERIA MM-HMM
WELL, AND THAT ADMIN STUFF FOR GRANTS, YOU KNOW, UNDER, SO SOCIAL WORK LICENSURE, THAT'S PART OF GETTING YOUR LICENSE LICENSURE IS TO DO ADMIN WORK.
I THINK WE COULD EASILY TAKE THAT OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THAT ANYWAY.
I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE TO TAKE IT OUT.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW.
IT SAYS TH 33 5 30 3,500, SORRY.
33,250 KIND OF GOES DIRECTLY TOWARD OFFSETTING THE COST OF THE SESSIONS.
PLUS 2% OVERHEAD OF 900 BRINGS THE TOTAL TO 34,150.
AND THEN YEAH, THE, OH, LIKE YOU SAID, UM, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 11,000 TO THE GRANT MANAGER.
BUT SO I'LL COMFORTABLE FUNDING AT THE 32.
WAS IT FIVE OR 32 6? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE AMOUNT, BUT I MEAN, GIVEN THAT WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT CUTS AND THIS IS A NEW AGENCY, I, I THINK FOR NOW, JUST GOING WITH 25,000 AND SEEING WHERE WE'RE AT THE END, SEEING WHAT THE TOTAL IS.
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WILLOW RANCH.UM, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, UM, THIS IS A FAMILY, FAMILY OWNED, I DON'T THINK THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE BUSINESS SAVVY NECESSARY.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, UM, COFFEE CREEK PROGRAM AS WELL.
WHAT, WHAT PROGRAM DID, DID YOU SAY? COFFEE CREEK.
AND SHE, SHE MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD A SIMILAR PROGRAM, EQUINE THERAPY.
I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR GOVERNANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND I WASN'T VERY SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSES.
ANOTHER THING I NOTICED WAS THEY FILE A NINE 90 N WHICH IS FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVED DONATIONS OF $50,000 OR LESS.
AND IT DOES NOT DISCLOSE THINGS SUCH AS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, INTEREST OR TRANSACTIONS WITH MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD.
UM, AND THERE'S CLEARLY TRANSACTIONS WITH THEIR BOARD LEADERSHIP MM-HMM
UM, AND I JUST HONESTLY FEEL LIKE THAT MAY BE AN INCOMPLETE AND OR INEL, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE WITH A $38,000 BUDGET YEAH.
UM, SO I JUST, UM, DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE HAD THE GOVERNING DEVELOPMENT TO RECEIVE ANY OR ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING FROM KA MM-HMM
I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM AGAIN THOUGH.
I DON'T LIKE TO ECHO YOUR CONCERNS.
UH, I HAVE ISSUES ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE.
DON'T THINK THEY'RE QUITE READY YET TO, TO ACCEPT FUNDS IN THE WAY THAT CAR IS INTENDED TO GIVE.
AND I ALSO WANNA SAY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECESSARILY ANYTHING INHERENTLY IMMORAL OR UNETHICAL ABOUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
UM, IT'S JUST THE TRANSPARENCY AND DISCLOSURE OF THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, THEY OWN THIS RANCH AND THIS ORGANIZATION IS GETTING VERY CHEAP RENT TO KEEP THEIR ANIMALS THERE.
THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE BENEFICIAL, UM, TO THE ORGANIZATION.
SO NOT INHERENTLY WRONG, I JUST, UM, AM A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS BEING A CLOSE FAMILY, UM, STARTUP NONPROFIT.
I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
BUT I'VE NOTICED THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, PARTNERSHIPS THAT MADE SENSE TO ME, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES DID.
AND THAT, UM, AND THEY ALSO SAID THAT THEIR, UM, THEIR THERAPY HOURS LIKE WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT VOLUNTEER BASED.
AND I JUST WONDERED ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY OF IT.
SO THAT MAYBE THAT'S ANOTHER VOTE AGAINST THAT.
SO FOR NOW, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THEM BLANK
SO NOW YOU'VE HIT ALL THE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH AND THE HOUSING, THE WHAT IS REMAINING AS OTHER CATEGORY.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS FOSTERING SWEET DREAMS. FOSTERING SWEET DREAMS. I'M COM I'M COMFORTABLE FUNDING OUR LAST YEAR'S AMOUNT.
I'M KIND OF COMFORTABLE AT LAST YEAR'S FUNDING LEVEL WITH THEM.
I THINK THIS IS ONE I STRUGGLED WITH LAST YEAR TOO.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY DEPENDENT ON KARK.
AND I HAVE THE QUESTION OF LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO FUNDRAISE AND BRING IN MONEY FROM AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF KARK? UM, AND I THINK IT ALSO HAS THE BANG FOR THE BUCK QUESTION.
YOU KNOW? UM, IT ONLY GOES TO A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.
IT'S KIND OF THE CONCERN WE HAVE WITH FOLDS OF HONOR WHERE SOME OF THESE OTHERS ARE ABLE TO STRETCH THE DOLLARS OUT A LOT FURTHER.
SO I
I'M COMFORTABLE LEAVING THIS ONE BLANK AND REVISITING, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF NOT FUNDING IT.
I FEEL LIKE THE CRITERIA IS NOT HELPING ANY OF EDMOND'S NEEDS THAT WERE STATED.
AND THEN CHARACTER WAS VERY ARBITRARY TO ME.
AND SHE WAS UNABLE TO DEFINE WHAT THE CRITERIA WAS.
SO I WORRY THAT THAT'S LIKE A REAL BIASED USE OF THE CITY'S MONEY TO
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GIVE.I MEAN, WHO'S TO SAY IT'S NOT THEIR BEST FRIEND'S KIDS THAT ARE GETTING THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS.
SO THAT I, I KIND OF FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT THAT ORGANIZATION.
I, I'D LIKE TO THINK I HAVE CHARACTER, BUT THEN I DON'T, I NEED A DEFINITION OF WHAT THEIR DEFINITION IS.
WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF CHARACTER? SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THESE KIDS.
I'M ALL FOR EDMOND RESIDENT KIDS GETTING SCHOLARSHIPS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SHE MEANS BY CHARACTER.
LIKE WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES SHE THINK IT IS? BECAUSE MY DEFINITION AND HERS MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
AND I LIKE TO HAVE A SOLID EXPECTATION OF WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING.
THESE RECIPIENTS, I PULLED UP THEIR APPLICATION AND I DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT A SHARED FOLDER WHERE I COULD ADD IT, BUT, UM, I SHOULD HAVE EMAILED IT OUT.
THEY USE THE 36 CHARACTER CORE WORDS FROM STRATA LEADERSHIP, UM, WHICH IS LIKE A CONSULTING FIRM IN TRAINING THAT GOES INTO A LOT OF BUSINESSES OR USED TO BE VERY POPULAR.
AND THEY DO A 500, THEY PICK A WORD, A SPECIFIC CHARACTER TRAIT, AND THEY DO A 500 TO 550 WORD ESSAY, UM, ABOUT THAT TRAIT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THEIR TRAITS OR CHARACTER WORDS COME FROM.
THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS COMING FROM.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT IN, IN FAVOR OF THE $6,000, THE INCREASE.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE FUND THEM AT LAST YEAR'S LEVER OR NOT FUND THEM AT ALL.
IS THAT, LEANNE, YOU'RE SAYING NOT FUNDING THEM AT ALL? IN THE WORDS OF RANDY JACKSON, IT'S A NO FOR ME DOG
WELL, THEY WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS COMPLETELY WITHOUT ANY FUNDING.
SO, AND THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE WON ABOUT TYPE OF STATEMENT.
THAT IS, IF THAT'S WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION OR THIS COMMISSION DECIDED, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ALMOST FITS MORE TO ME IN THE SAME CATEGORY THAT THE RODEO AND THE ARTS COUNCIL FITS INTO.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IN MY MIND IT WORKS BETTER THERE.
BECAUSE IF I WAS LOOKING AT IT JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF DOES THIS HELP HOUSING, JOBS, HEALTHCARE? WELL, FINE ARTS DOESN'T EITHER, BUT WE HAVE A SPACE FOR THAT.
SO MAYBE IT'S WHAT WE GAVE 'EM LAST YEAR.
I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT AS WELL.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S GO TO THE 2004 THEN.
AND I JUST WANNA, I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT YOU ALL MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE, UM, SOME PEOPLE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING SOME OF YOU, SO THANK YOU.
OH, UM, THE EDMUND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST.
SO THEY FIXED THE FLOORS AND THEY FIXED THE ANNEX AND HE SAID HE HAD MORE MAINTENANCE NEEDS ALL THE TIME, BUT HE COULDN'T TELL US WHAT THEY WERE AND WHY HE NEEDED $25,000 FOR THEM.
I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR THEY WANTED MONEY FOR SECURITY, BUT THEN, UH, WHEN JONATHAN ASKED HIM, WELL, HOW DID HAPPEN? WELL, WE GOT SOME CAMERAS AND HE REALLY COULDN'T TELL US HOW THEY USED THAT 25,000 LAST YEAR.
WELL, AND I THINK ALSO WE WERE CONCERNED, WELL, AT LEAST IN THE DRAFTING, THE NEW ORDINANCE FOR CLARK CAPITAL EXPENDITURES WERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF FLAGGED AS ITEMS OF CONCERN.
AND I THINK THE ONLY THING WE, THE, THE ONLY REQUESTS I'VE SEEN SINCE MY TIME ON CLARK HAVE BEEN ALL CAPITAL REQUESTS RELATED TO THE HISTORIC REQUESTS.
I DON'T CONSIDER THEM CAPITAL REQUESTS BECAUSE THE PRESERVATION OF THE BUILDING IS THE PROGRAM, BUT MM-HMM
THAT'S ALSO LIKE, I DON'T CONSIDER A SALARY PART
BUT, BUT THEN ALSO I, I LOOK AT IT FROM THE LENS OF, OF, UM, COLLECTIVE, UH, COLLECTIVE APPROACH.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MUSEUM OR THE HISTORIC MUSEUM.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THEM TO PARTNER WITH EACH OTHER, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY BOTH HAVE SIMILAR MISSIONS TO PRESERVE EDMOND HISTORY.
ONE IS SPECIFIC TO THE SCHOOLHOUSE AND ONE IS SPECIFIC TO JUST OVERALL, UM, EDMOND HISTORY.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH THAT.
UM, HE ALSO MENTIONED PRESERVATION OF THE DOWNTOWN.
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AND I WOULD, AS MUCH AS I WAS VERY DISSATISFIED THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH HIS PRESENTATION AND HOW THEY ACCOUNT FOR SPENDING, I DO THINK THE PRESERVATION OF DOWNTOWN IS SUPER IMPORTANT FROM A TAX DOLLAR STANDPOINT BECAUSE OF THE RETAIL STUFF THAT IT BRINGS IN.UM, AND THAT HAVING THAT PRESERVED IS IMPORTANT.
BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEND A MESSAGE AT LEAST THIS YEAR OF LIKE, HEY, WE REALLY WANNA SEE HOW YOU'RE USING THIS MONEY AND WE'RE NOT GONNA CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY IF YOU CAN'T TELL US HOW YOU'RE USING IT.
HOW ARE THE QUARTERLY REPORTS? CAN WE, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER OR NOT? YOU CAN CONSIDER ALL INFORMATION.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE DIFFICULTY WITH, UM, PROVIDING REPORTS TO SUBSTANTIATE WHAT THEY USE THE MONEY FOR.
CHRISTIE, I REMEMBER THE EDMOND HISTORY MUSEUM WAS PULLED OUT OF THE CLARK BUDGET AND WAS PUT INTO ANOTHER BUDGET.
IS THERE A REASON THAT THE EDMOND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST DOESN'T PULL FROM THAT OTHER POT OF MONEY? OR IS IT PULLING FROM THAT OTHER POT OF MONEY? OR, OR WHY IS IT NOT A PARK? GREAT QUESTIONS THAT I AM NOT GONNA ANSWER
UM, SO NO, TO YOUR POINT, THE, THE TRUST IS A TRUST.
IT'S A TRUST OF THE CITY OF ED ADMIN AND THE HISTORY MUSEUM IS JUST THAT.
UM, I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, BROUGHT IT TO YOU ALL, THEN YOU ALL SUBSTANTIATED THAT.
UM, I HAVE ALREADY PLANTED THE SEED WITH UPPER MANAGEMENT THAT THE TRUST MAY NEED TO BE ONE THAT COMES OUT.
THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES, TWO SEPARATE BOARDS.
UM, AND SO IT MAY BE THE TIME TO START HAVING THAT CONVERSATION TO SOME OF Y'ALL'S POINT THAT THEY SHOULD COMBINE OR, UH, WORK TOGETHER IN WHAT IS NEEDED.
UM, 'CAUSE IT IS A HISTORICAL BUILDING OF ED ADMIN AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE MUSEUM DOES AS WELL.
UM, JUST FOR, SORRY, I NEED TO BRING IT UP HERE SO I CAN TALK IN MY MICROPHONE.
UM, JUST SO FOR YOU KNOW, WHAT, FOR YOUR INFORMATION, UM, NEW FLOORING PURCHASE WAS 7,820.
EDMOND ELECTRIC, 1 93 CLEANING 1 93, UM, SCHOOL DOCENT 8 41 AND SECURITY ALARM 2 25 IS WHAT THEY HAVE REPORTED TO DATE TO US.
SO THEY DIDN'T USE THE 25,000 OH, I'M SORRY.
AND IF YOU WANT, I MEAN, WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH QUARTER IF YOU'D LIKE.
THEY ENDED UP USING THE WHOLE 25,000.
THEY HAVEN'T YET, SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING FOURTH QUARTER, SO.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE USED, I THINK ACTUALLY YES, I THINK THEIR LAST SUBMITTAL THAT WAS, YEAH.
UH, SO FOR QUARTER TWO, UH, AGAIN, A DOCENT EDUCATOR FOR THREE MONTHS, 7 95 ACCOUNTING SERVICES, 4 85 ADMIN UTILITIES IS A LITTLE OVER 300 ADVERTISEMENT AND ADMIN VISITOR GUIDE FOUR 50 AND THE SECURITY ALARM 2 25 AND THEIR THIRD QUARTER REPORTS DUE NEXT WEEK OR WEEK AFTER NEXT.
I SCORED THIS ONE PRETTY HIGH AND REALLY HIGH.
I THINK I DID NINE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS, UM, 99.
SO I, WHAT I SAW WAS A RESPONSE TO SOME OF OUR PAST FEEDBACK WITH THAT IN THAT OLSON FAMILY FOUNDATION, $25,000 GRANT AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GO TO OTHER SOURCES TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.
UM, BUT THE CLARK GRANT IS ABOUT 25% OR 50% OF THEIR BUDGET.
WELL, I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WE ARE, THEY NEED TO EXPLORE.
UM, COMBINED, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH, UM, HISTORIC MUSEUM, I THINK THAT EACH YEAR WE SEE WE'RE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS, THIS GRANT, 'CAUSE WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT, HOW TO EVALUATE IT.
I AGREE WITH LEANNE THAT WE DO NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE AND I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO, UM, NOT FUND THEM AT THE FULL 25,000, BUT AT THE 20,000, IT SHOWS THAT AS A COMMISSION WE'RE NOT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
BUT WE KNOW THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS, UM, TO BE FUNDED.
AND, AND ALSO MADAM CHAIR, WE COULD ALSO RECOMMEND TO CITY MANAGEMENT IF YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS ONE THAT DOESN'T REALLY QUALIFY FOR CLARK ANY LONGER.
UM, AND, AND I CAN TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK TO COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT.
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OH, I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT.SO LET'S JUST PUT THEM AT 20,000 THIS YEAR.
ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? ARE YOU YES.
BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED FUNDING THEY'VE RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
UM, NO, THE INCREASE FROM WITH THEIR ADDITIONAL GRANTS YEAH.
THE EDMOND, UH, LAND CONSERVANCY.
SO, I, I, I STRUGGLED WITH THIS ONE LAST YEAR AS WELL.
UM, ONE, I THINK THEIR PRESENTATION TALKED ABOUT IT LIKE THERE'S JUST A DECREASING AMOUNT OF LAND AVAILABLE TO PUT IN, OR A DECREASING AMOUNT OF LAND AVAILABLE, AND ALSO A LACK OF INTEREST FROM THOSE WHO DO OWN LAND TO DO IT.
'CAUSE I THINK ANYONE WHO OWNS LAND, ESPECIALLY IN EDMOND, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY HOT COMMODITY.
SO I CAN SELL AT A HIGH, SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER RATE, UM, AND GET A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RETURN ON EVEN SMALL LOTS OR SMALL PORTIONS.
AND SO I JUST DON'T SEE THE APPETITE FOR IT.
UM, I DON'T SEE IT AS AN IMMEDIATE NEED.
UM, AND SO I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE IT, FOR ME, I WOULDN'T SAY ANY FUNDING IS WARRANTED, BUT I COULD BE CONVINCED OTHERWISE
AND THIS YEAR, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR AS WELL.
BUT THEY'VE HIRED A, UM, AGENCY TO HELP THEM WITH THAT.
AND I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO GIVE THEM MONEY TO GIVE TO AN AGENCY TO DO THEIR OUTREACH.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO EFFECTIVE OUTREACH IS OUTSOURCING THAT WITH THE MARKETING MATERIALS.
OTHERWISE YOU'VE GOT ME TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WHICH IS, I'M NOT ON THE BOARD, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOTHING GRAPHIC DESIGN ABOUT ME.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S A, A REALLY SOLID POINT.
BUT I THINK TO MY EARLIER COMMENT, WHO, WHO IS THE MARKET? AND I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE, IS THAT I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S A MARKET THAT THEY CAN MARKET TO, TO SAY, HEY, COME PUT YOUR LAND IN THIS CONCERN.
'CAUSE EVEN IF I OWN LAND HERE IN, IN EDMOND, IF IT WAS VACANT, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE IT TO A LAND CONFERENCE OR, OR ALTERNATIVELY I COULD DONATE THAT LAND TO A TURNING POINT WHO WILL DEVELOP, LIKE, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER USES THAT IF SOMEONE HAS A MINDSET TO DONATE LAND, THAT THEY WOULD RATHER IT GO SEE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHER HUMAN BEINGS THAN BEING PRESERVED AS NATURAL SPACE.
'CAUSE DID HE SAY THEY USED THE PART OF THE MONEY FOR THE WEBSITE? YEAH, I MEAN, THE WEBSITE'S LIVE NOW, AND I MEAN, TO, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE A WORDPRESS SITE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA COST $5,000 A YEAR TO RUN.
IT SHOULD, I MEAN, DOMAINS AND WEB HOSTS, I MEAN, YOU CAN DO THAT FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR.
UM, SO I I, YEAH, IT'S A BANG FOR THE BUCK QUESTION FOR ME.
THIS AND CHARACTER COUNCIL AND WILLOW RANCH WERE THE ONES WITH THE VERY LOW BUDGETS.
I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH ONE.
UM, I'M HONESTLY SURPRISED WE DID 5,000 LAST YEAR.
IS THAT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR? BECAUSE WE WERE VERY GENEROUS LAST YEAR.
I ALSO THINK THERE'S A NATIONAL, I WAS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY.
UM, THERE'S A NATIONAL NONPROFIT CALLED THE NATURE CONSERVANCY THAT DOES THIS.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT FOCUSED ON EDMOND, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A, AN ENDANGERED WOODPECKER THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT'S ONLY BEEN SEEN IN EDMOND.
SO I HAVE A HARD, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THIS ONE.
WELL, I, I DO SUPPORT, UM, PRESERVING GREEN SPACE AND, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY, THEY'RE ABOUT.
BUT SHOULD OUR TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S THE QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK.
WELL, WE ALREADY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PARK LAND AND ADMIN.
I MEAN, IT, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, SELLING POINTS.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE, IT'S, IT'S EVEN BEING DEVELOPED FURTHER WITH THE GATHERING, WITH THE NIGHT GATHERING PLACE, BUT THE
SO I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE PLACES THAT ARE DOING MORE WITH THE MONEY THEY HAVE TO, TO OPERATE, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND GREEN SPACE THAN THIS.
I THINK OUR CITY HAS BEEN REALLY, UM, FORWARD THINKING ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S PART
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OF THE TREE CANOPY ORDINANCE WHERE WE LIKE CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS YOU HAVE TO PRESERVE, UH, 20% OF THE, THE NATURAL TREES AND EVERYTHING.AND SO, I MEAN, WE'RE DOING IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK CAR FUNDING, UM, IS A, IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS, JUST SO, OKAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ON HIS, ON THE EXPENSE PAGE.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY INSURING? IT SAYS INSURANCE.
ON THEIR EXPENSE PAGE WHERE IT SAYS THEIR INSURANCE, WHAT ARE THEY INSURING EXACTLY THROUGH? I DON'T REALLY, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THEIR INSURING AND I BELIEVE COST SO MUCH.
HE, HE SPOKE TO THAT LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE INSURANCE.
SINCE THE CONSERVANCY OWNS IT, UM, IT CAN STILL BE ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC.
AND SO THE LIABILITY THAT THEY HAVE TO CARRY FOR IF SOMEONE GOES ON THEIR PROPERTY AND DOES SOMETHING OR HURT THEMSELVES OR WHATEVER.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S ONE OF OUR IDENTIFIED PRIORITIES.
I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT MONEY GO TOWARDS LIKE HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH STUFF, LIKE A GOLDMAN PROJECT WOMAN OR SOMETHING THAT MEETS OUR PRIORITIES AS WELL.
WELL, AND AND AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, WE FUNDED THEM LAST YEAR FOR THAT OUTREACH.
THEY HAVE THAT WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING.
NOT SEEING A CONTINUED NEED FOR THAT.
ZERO, UH, EDMOND LAND CONSERVANCY.
WE NOW ARE, WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE? SO I THINK THAT IS COMPLETE.
UM, YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH THE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, STAGES AND SO RIGHT NOW, TOTAL FUNDING, IF YOU LEFT WITH WHAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED IS 888,500.
UM, SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND LEFT OVER.
I WILL REMIND YOU THAT YOUR ORDINANCE IS UP TO $1 MILLION.
SO YOU YOUR CHOICE TO GO AHEAD AND GO BACK THROUGH AGAIN, UM, AND FUND, FULLY FUND SOME OF THOSE ONES THAT YOU DIDN'T OR THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE GONE FROM LAST YEAR.
UM, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GO UP TO THE MILLION, UM, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO THOUGH, RIGHT? SO LET'S GO BACK UP AND SEE, UM, ON THE ONES THAT REQUESTED AN INCREASE.
SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE EDMOND MOBILE MEALS.
THEY ASK FOR AN INCREASE OF 5,000.
I, I THINK THAT'S WORTH, YEAH.
FOOD COST AND HOW MUCH GOOD THEY'RE DOING FOR CITY OF EDMOND FOR MO FOR MOBILE MEALS IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
I WOULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND.
I, I THINK BETWEEN ADMIN MOBILE BILLINGS AND, UM, PROJECT 66, GIVEN THE, UM, IMPENDING RECESSION THAT I THINK EVERYONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THOSE TWO SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE USED SUBSTANTIALLY A LOT MORE.
AND SO I WOULD BE ANTICIPATING THAT.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF LIKE THE SPORTS, UM, KIND OF DUTIES IS BEING ABLE TO BE IN TUNED WITH THAT.
AND SO I THINK EVEN INCREASING THE, THE AMOUNT FOR BOTH OF THOSE NONPROFITS I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL ABOUT THAT A SECOND.
THAT, WELL, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UM, OKAY.
NEXT ONE WOULD BE HOPE CENTER.
NOW REMEMBER THAT THEY'RE, THIS IS NEW PROGRAMMING THEY'RE APPLYING FOR, LAST YEAR WAS THE FOOD PANTRY.
THIS YEAR IS RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
SO LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 80,000 AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU, UM, RECOMMENDED.
AND THEN THIS YEAR THEY'RE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I'M ACTUALLY COMFORTABLE WITH 80,000 WITH THEM, BUT I SAID I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE 80,000.
BUT WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE IF WE DON'T USE IT? NOT THAT, OH, GO AHEAD.
IF WE DON'T USE ALL THE MONEY, DOES IT CARRY ON TILL NEXT YEAR'S? NO, JUST NICK.
NO, IT GOES BACK IN OUR GENERAL FUND.
SO I HAD A LOT OF CLIENTS AFFECTED BY THE SNAP SHUT DOWN IN OCTOBER.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT FOOD IS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS, HOWEVER, AT THAT MEETING, NO ONE BROUGHT FOOD UP AS A HUGE NEED.
WHEREAS THEY DID BRING HOUSING UP IN A BIG WAY.
UM, I ALSO THINK WE DON'T LET OUR CHILDREN GO HUNGRY.
OUR SCHOOLS ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT ANYWAY.
IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE EXTRA MONEY, I WOULD VOTE TO GIVE IT TO THE HOUSING PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF THE FOOD PROGRAMS. I MEAN THAT, YEAH, THAT, I MEAN HOUSING'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A HUGE ISSUE IF THERE'S AN IMPENDING RECESSION.
BUT, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, I MEAN, I SAW A HEADLINE JUST TODAY THAT LIKE MORTGAGE RATES HAVE CLIMBED
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FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, X WEEK IN A ROW.UM, AND SO IT'S NOT, AGAIN, IT'S NOT GETTING ANY CHEAPER TO, TO GET A HOUSE.
UM, THIS IS A HUGE PRIORITY, UM, FOR ADMIN RESIDENTS.
SO I, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE TO GIVE, I'M COMFORTABLE FUNDING A LITTLE MORE THAN 80,000 FOR HOPE CENTER OR, UM, OR, OR YEAH.
I DO REALIZE IT'S A NEW PROGRAM.
I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO GIVE THEM THE FULL 100.
WOULD THAT BE GOOD, GOOD AMOUNT, OR YOU DID YOU SAY YOU WOULD BE GOOD? OKAY.
WITH THE FULL 100 I OH, YOU'RE OKAY.
WELL, YEAH, I'LL SAY THE FULL 100.
EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THE FULL 100? YEAH.
SORRY, I GOTTA DO MY LITTLE COLOR STUFF.
THE NEXT ONE IS, UM, FOR, IF YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA STICK WITH HOUSING FIRST? IF YOU YES.
SO THE OTHER TWO HOUSING, UH, PROGRAMS, UH, OF COURSE YOU DID 20 TURNING POINT MINISTRIES WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THAT'S WHAT YOU, UH, RECOMMENDED.
THE OTHER TWO HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES AND MISSION 1, 4 3.
AND THOSE ARE BOTH OUR NEW ORGANIZATIONS AND YOUR YEAH, YOU HAVE A LITTLE OVER 86,000 LEFT, SO WE HAVE SOME MONEY.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, GIVE A LITTLE MORE TO MISSION 1 43.
THAT DIDN'T STOP US THE LAST TIME.
I, I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL HEARD ME.
UH, FOR MISSION 1, 4 3, I, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO DARREN'S.
UM, IT WAS BOYS RANCH TOWN FOR THEIR BEDS.
THAT WAS ONE THAT YOU PUT ON HOLD THAT, THAT YOU GAVE LAST YEAR'S REQUEST.
AND THIS YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 16,000.
AND THAT DOES HAVE KIND OF HAVE TO DO WITH HOUSING.
I MEAN, YOU NEED A BED WHEN YOU'RE IN A HOUSE, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD SUPPORT FUNDING THAT FOR MORE THAN 2,500.
UM, I MEAN, THEY WERE VERY RESPONSIVE TO OUR FEEDBACK LAST YEAR, UM, WHICH WAS LIKE LAST YEAR IT WAS JUST GOING TO A GENERAL FUND.
SO WE ASKED LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT MONEY? UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A VERY TANGIBLE, UM, REQUEST.
AND IF WE FUND THE MATTRESSES, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA NEED MORE MATTRESSES NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY.
UM, LIKE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'LL BE A RECURRING REQUEST.
SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING FUND ALL OF IT.
I I, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO IT EITHER, BUT I, I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT MORE THAN 2,500.
THAT'S, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF MORE THAT, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
THAT'S A QUESTION I WANT, I WISH I WOULD'VE ASKED YESTERDAY IF THEY PLANNED TO REUSE THOSE MATTRESSES.
WE NEVER REUSE MATTRESSES BECAUSE OF BEDBUGS, HEALTH AND SAFETY, ALL OF THAT.
AND THEN MY QUESTION WAS THAT TO ME, WHICH I'M BUYING MATTRESSES ALL THE TIME, SEEMS LIKE A VERY EXPENSIVE TWIN MATTRESS.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
SO I'M WONDERING DO THEY REUSE THEM? WHAT SIZE ARE THEY? WHAT KIND OF QUALITY? NOT THAT WE WANT BAD MATTRESSES, BUT COULD WE SHOCK THAT A LITTLE BIT? AND ARE WE GONNA BE DOING 16,000 NEXT YEAR? YEAH.
LOOK AT SWEET DREAMS MATTRESS PRICE.
WHO ARE THEY WORKING WITH? THAT'S A GOOD CHOICE.
HOW MUCH IS THE SWEET DREAMS? IT IS LIKE 230 AND IT'S QUITE A BIT LESS.
I MEAN, IS IS, ARE THEY $250 MATTRESSES FOR UM, THE BOYS RANCH OR 500? OH, 500.
I THINK, AND HE DID SAY THAT SOMEONE HAS ALREADY DONATED THE BEDS, BUT THAT THIS WAS JUST, I'M SURE FOR BOX, SPRING AND MATTRESS, WHICH DID SEEM HIGH TO ME.
WELL, WE CAN INCREASE THE AMOUNT.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE FULL 16 AND THEY, WHATEVER AMOUNT THAT WE GIVE THEM, THEY'LL BUY MATTRESSES WITH THEM.
WHAT ABOUT HALF AT LIKE, WHATEVER, 17,000 DIVIDED BY TWO IS
I LIKE EVEN NUMBERS GO FOR 10.
WOULD YOU LIKE THE EIGHT? DID I HEAR EIGHT? I FEEL LIKE I'M AN AUCTIONEER OVER HERE.
DID I HEAR EIGHT
WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING JONATHAN? YOU LIKE 10,000? NO, SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID 10,000.
I MEAN, SHE WAS ASKING WHAT WE SAID.
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THEY DO.SO AGAIN, THE TWO HOUSING, OTHER ONES THAT YOU DID NOT FULLY RECOMMEND WERE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES AND MISSION? 1, 4, 3.
SO, BUT MARSHA HAD BROUGHT UP THE A LITTLE BIT MORE MAYBE.
AND YOU HAVE OH, AND YOU HAVE ABOUT 79,000 LEFT.
WELL, LET'S GO WITH, UM, LET'S INCREASE THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES.
THAT'LL AT LEAST BE HALF THEIR REQUEST.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING 1 4, 3 MORE.
YOU COULD DO A LOT OF HOTELS WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
SO THAT WOULD HIT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
WHAT IF WE GAVE THEM 25,000 TO YEAH.
AND THEN I THINK THIS, THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD, WHEN WE LOOK AT 'EM AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND SEE HOW THEY USE THE MONEY, THAT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE US SOME IDEA.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS CHECKING WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION FOR USING IT.
WHERE ARE WE AT NOW, CHRISTIE? HOW ARE, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY 69,000 LEFT? UH, I WILL THE TWO MENTAL OR THE TWO ORGANIZATION, UH, SORRY.
ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU DID NOT FULLY FUND THAT ARE FROM PREVIOUS YEARS IS LITTLE YOU FILLED, WHICH IS A MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMMING AND THEN HEARTLINE, WHICH IS A REFERRAL SERVICE OR 2 1 1.
UM, THEY ASKED FOR BOTH ASKED FOR INCREASES.
SO YOU, YOU RECOMMENDED WHAT THEY GOT LAST YEAR.
SO THAT'S JUST AN OPTION AS WELL.
I THINK LILYFIELD, WE SHOULD, UM, GIVE THEM THE 30,000.
YEAH, I KNOW THEY'RE A VERY GOOD AGENCY.
I KNOW THEY'RE BEING RECRUITED
HOW? YEAH, THEY REFER TO 9, 8, 8 IF THEY GET AN EMERGENCY CALL.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LIFELINE TO 9, 8, 8 2 AND IT POINTS 'EM TO ALL THESE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE'RE NOT FUNDING.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH EVEN TAKING THEM UP A LITTLE BIT MORE TO 15.
YOU WANNA FUND THEM AT THAT 13 OR? I WOULD SAY THE 15.
WHAT ARE YOU ALL THINKING? WELL, DON'T, OKAY,
I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDING UP TO THE SAME NUMBERS AND I'M GETTING A BIGGER NUMBER.
SO COULD WE DO A REVIEW REALLY QUICK OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S GETTING? I WANNA MAKE SURE.
WE THOUGHT WE WERE, WHAT'D YOU SAY? TAXES? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? IT'S THE CREDIT CARD.
SO I'LL TAKE THE ONES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT BACK DOWN TO THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE ON THESE NEWER ONES.
IS THAT AGREEABLE WITH THE, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
WE'RE OVER A MILLION AND I I COULD BE, I COULD HAVE A MISTAKE.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE REALLY QUICK.
DID YOU, UM, TAKE OUT THE ONES WE WEREN'T FUNDING? YES.
SO WHAT'S THAT NUMBER? LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS, CHRISTY? I'M WORKING ON IT.
WE WERE JUST LIKE, HERE'S THE MUD OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I HADN'T REFRESH.
I MEAN I RE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REFRESHING AS WE WENT, SO I'M JUST TOOTLING RIGHT ALONG.
I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THAT IS EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF UM, BOY RANCH MISSION ONE.
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SHOWING 25 AND IT WAS WHEN THE 20 BEFORE WE DECIDED TO GET, OKAY, HOLD ON.I THINK BOYS RANCH WE WENT TO 10,000, BUT, WELL WE, YOU ORIGINALLY THAT'S RECOMMENDED WHAT THEY GOT LAST YEAR.
SO IF YOU WANT THEM, YOU'VE GOT, UM, LOOKS LIKE WELL, YEAH, 6,500.
I'D RATHER GIVE 'EM MORE TO, WELL I JUST VOTE FOR 2 1 1 FOR HEARTLAND FOR WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE SOMEBODY MORE, I'D RATHER GIVE IT TO 2 1 1 THAN DU BOIS RANCH JUST BECAUSE THEY HIT SO MANY MORE PEOPLE.
I'D RATHER GIVE IT TO HOUSING.
TO ME, IT'S HARD TO DENY AN ORGANIZATION THAT GOT MORE THAN 90 POINTS THEIR REQUEST.
UM, BUT SO YOU DID MARK OKLAHOMA PROJECT WOMAN AS ONE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT AGAIN AS WELL AS FOLDS OF HONOR AND YMCA.
I JUST REALLY THINK YMCA SHOULD BE FUNDED.
IT'S SCORED INCREDIBLY HIGH AND WE HAVE SUCH A BIG YOUTH SPORTS CULTURE IN OKLAHOMA THAT I HOPE EVERYONE CAN BE A PART OF, PARTICULARLY WITH THE INFLUENCE OF THE THUNDER WITH THE BASKETBALL LEAGUE.
UM, I WOULD HATE FOR SOME KID NOT TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE TERRIBLE, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY GO BACK TO FOLDS OF HONOR AND SAY MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THAT FUNDING.
THEY DO HAVE JUST A ENORMOUS BUDGET.
I MEAN, TONS OF DONORS AND FUNDERS.
SO I MEAN, IF IF IT'S THE BANG FOR THE BUCK QUESTION AGAIN, LIKE TWO, TWO PEOPLE FOR 10,000 THEN I MEAN YEAH.
ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DECIDED NOT TO FUND CHARACTER COUNCIL, WHICH WE'RE TAKING UP THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS.
I DID LIKE THAT FOLDS OF HONOR BROUGHT THEIR DATA ABOUT EDMOND APPLICANTS.
SO 43 APPLICANTS IN EDMOND AND 17 WENT UNFUNDED LAST YEAR.
AND I APPRECIATED THEY BROUGHT THOSE NUMBERS.
I SAID IT AT THE BEGINNING THAT I DO FEEL LIKE, 'CAUSE IT ONLY BENEFITS TWO INDIVIDUALS PLUS THEIR FAMILIES.
WELL THEY'RE, UM, WHAT YOU SAID VETERANS AND OR SERVICE MEMBERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.
I MEAN, YOU COULD, EVEN IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FUND IT, YOU COULD FUND IT FOR 5,001 SCHOLARSHIP, GIVE THE REST TO, YOU KNOW, ANYONE ELSE LIKE BOYS RANCH TOWN OR, UM, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
OR, UH, ONE OF THE HOUSING AGENCIES.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO KIND OF GO OVER IT, BUT LIKE GIVING THE SAME MONEY TO MISSION 1 4 3 AS NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES.
WHEN NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES IS MORE OF A PERMANENT HOUSING.
I KNOW WE DO NEED 1 4 3 THAT'S MORE LIKE A, LIKE A HOTEL OVERNIGHT, LIKE A SHORT TERM FIX.
BUT I FEEL LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES IS MORE OF A LONG TERM HELPING LOW INCOME FAMILIES BUY AND PROVIDES MORE OF A STABLE FUTURE LONG-TERM HOUSING.
FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY'RE REQUESTING QUITE A BIT MORE.
AND WE COULD TAKE THEM BOTH TO THE 25,000 AND, AND STILL HAVE SOME MORE MONEY LEFT.
I, YEAH, AND EMILY JUST CORRECTED ME.
WE, YOU DID HAVE 25,000 ON MISSION 1, 4 3, BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU STARTED GOING BACK IN AND ADDING YEAH.
SO IF WE PUT THEM BACK AT 25 YEAH.
AND, AND NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING.
I MEAN, TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THERE, I WILL BE MORE INTERESTED IN GIVING THE 10 TO GIVE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES CLOSER TO WHAT THEIR ASK WAS RATHER THAN GIVING MISSION 1, 4 3 MORE MONEY THAN THEY ASKED FOR.
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THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THE FIRST TIME APPLICANT.BUT I ALSO, UM, AGAIN, I'M THE LAWYER ON THE BOARD, SO I'M ALWAYS THINKING, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SPONSORED BY NEW COVENANT.
SO AGAIN, WE, THEY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T PROVIDE THEIR NINE 90 BECAUSE NEW COVENANT FILES IT AND INDICATES THAT THIS IS JUST A MISSION OF THEIRS.
UM, THERE'S, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT.
FIVE, OH, I ACTUALLY, THEY'RE NOT YET.
I DON'T, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE WELL GOVERNED.
THEY SEEM VERY ORGANIZED AND CAME TO, YOU KNOW, I READ THEIR BYLAWS AND I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE DOING GREAT THINGS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF JUST SEEING THAT IMPACT A LITTLE BIT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT AND I THINK THEY'LL GET IT, BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WORKING WITH THE CITY AS WELL, TRYING TO MOVE, UM, IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THEY, THEY OFFER WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND THAT'S MORE THAN JUST HELPING PEOPLE WITH, UM, RENT.
AND, AND THEY DON'T GET MONEY IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT A CORRECT VOUCHER.
AM I RIGHT? THEY'VE GOT TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
AND THEY PAY THE HOTEL DIRECTLY JUST SO YOU HONOR IT.
MUCH LIKE WHEN YOU ASK FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE LANDLORD OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TEAM.
SO THEY PAY THE HOTEL, UM, OR PAY THEY ON BEHALF OF THE INDIVIDUAL.
THEY DON'T GIVE THE MONEY TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
I WOULD JUST KEEP IT AT THE REQUESTED AMOUNT.
20 AND THEN, 'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO SEVERAL OF 'EM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY TO GO BACK TO.
MARSHA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING RIGHT NOW.
THE NUMBER ONE, THE NUMBER ONE NEED IDENTIFIED BY AGENCIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS AN AGENCY THAT IS WORKING WITH THOSE AGENCIES THAT HELP TO IDENTIFY.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BREAKDOWN, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE GAVE MORE MONEY TO HOUSING BECAUSE IT WAS THE NUMBER ONE IDENTIFIED NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HELPS EITHER, BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR POPULATION THAT 1 43 IS HELPING, UH, OKLAHOMA IS NUMBER ONE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND A LOT OF TIMES WOMEN ARE DISPLACED FROM THEIR WELL VICTIMS, NOT JUST WOMEN ARE DISPLACED FROM THEIR HOMES.
AND BECAUSE AN ABUSER MAY HAVE FINANCIAL CONTROL, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RESOURCES FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING LIKE THAT.
SO I'D THROW MY VOTE THERE AGAIN.
THEIR BYLAWS ARE NEW COVENANTS, BYLAWS.
THIS IS NOT AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT.
SO, SO I WILL TELL YOU THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY'RE WITH NEW COVENANT RIGHT NOW IS 'CAUSE THEY'RE WORKING ON, THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR 5 0 1 C3.
SO THEY, THEY SHOULD HAVE IT NEXT YEAR.
UM, I HAVE ALREADY ADVISED LAUREN THAT SHE'S GONNA NEED IT IF SHE'S WANTING TO WORK WITH US AS A RESOURCE HUB.
NOT, NOT TO, I'M NOT, IT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION, BUT I JUST WANTED LET YOU KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON IT AND CHURCHES ARE 5 0 1 C THREES TOO.
SO ON THE BOYS TOWN, BOYS RANCH.
DID WE YEAH, THAT WAS JUST WHAT I WAS DOING.
GO BACK DOWN TO 2,500 OR DID WE SAY WE'RE GONNA GO UP A LITTLE MORE? YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD? WE TALKED ABOUT 8,000 AND 10,000 THOUSAND.
OH, WE INCREASED MISSION 1 4 3 FROM 20 TO 25.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? SO DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE BOYSTOWN AND UP TO 8,000 YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE AT AND THEN YES.
CAN YOU JUST SCROLL THROUGH EVERYTHING? GO TO THE VERY TOP.
SO HOPE CENTER'S 20,000 UNDER THEIR ASK.
UM, AND ARE THEY HOUSING? HOUSING NOW? UM, AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS LIKE 30,000 UNDER THEIR ASK.
UM, AND YOU WERE, YOU WERE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR THEM.
I FELT LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICE WAS MORE OF A PRIORITY THAN MISSION 1, 4 3.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S PERMANENT HOUSING.
THEY DON'T PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE THOUGH.
JUST FYI IT'S COUNSELING AND, UM, HOME BUYERS ASSISTANCE AS FAR AS GETTING INTO A HOME AND YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY, YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR BANK LENDER AND I MEAN, LIKE, YOU'RE READY TO BUY A HOME.
I'VE SEEN, WELL, AS A REALTOR, I'VE JUST SEEN A LOT OF, A LOT OF HELP FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T QUALIFY.
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SO, I MEAN, I'M BIASED A LITTLE BIT, BUT YEAH.AND, AND I WILL SAY WE, UH, WE DON'T STACK, SO LIKE EVEN OUR HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE, WE DON'T STACK PROGRAMS TOGETHER.
SO THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STACK HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE TO GET INTO A HOME WITH BECAUSE IT'S DOUBLE DIPPING, YOU KNOW, SINCE HOUSING IS SUCH A PRIORITY.
MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER BIG ASKS THAT WE FUNDED FULLY, LIKE EDMOND FINE ARTS INSTITUTE AND MAYBE WE JUST REDUCED THEM BY A LITTLE PERCENTAGE AND, AND COUNT THAT MONEY AS GIVEN TO MAYBE A MISSION 1 43.
I WOULD INSTEAD OF TAKING FROM ONE HOUSING AND GIVING TO THE OTHER.
HOPE CENTER'S IN THERE TOO, RIGHT? AS YES.
THEY'RE THEY'RE 20 TH THAT YOU FUNDED, RECOMMENDED.
RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY GOT LAST YEAR, THEY ASKED A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WELL, IF WE GAVE A LITTLE MORE TO THE HOPE CENTER, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH $8,000 NOW AND, AND ALL OF OUR HOUSING AGENCIES ARE FUNDED PRETTY MUCH.
I'M COMFORTABLE GIVING THE FULL 8,000 TO, TO HOPE CENTER FOR MORE RENTAL
WELL, AND LIKE MINISTRIES OF JESUS, WE DIDN'T GO BACK THROUGH LIKE THEY'RE BELOW THEIR REQUEST.
UM, I I DON'T KNOW IF WE WENT BACK AND RECONSIDERED THESE OR NOT.
YOU FUNDED IT AT IT'S, UH, LAST YEAR'S REQUEST, RIGHT? ON THE INITIAL PASS THROUGH.
CORRECT? I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED IT, SO, YEAH.
WE DIDN'T 'CAUSE IT WASN'T COLOR CODED.
AND HOW DID ANYONE ASK IF MINISTRIES OF JESUS WILL SEE YOU DESPITE L-G-B-T-Q STATUS? I KNOW WE ASKED THAT OF FAMILY THERAPY, BUT DO WE KNOW THAT ABOUT MINISTRIES OF JESUS OR IF THEY WILL COUNSEL YOU IF YOU'RE WANT TO HAVE AN L-G-B-T-Q STATUS, THINGS LIKE THAT? I WANT TO SAY YES.
I THINK I LOOKED AT THAT LAST YEAR.
I FEEL LIKE MINISTRY OF JESUS, MEDICAL, DENTAL, VISION, COUNSELING, RECOVERY AND SOCIAL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE MEDICAL AND DENTAL AND VISION.
I DON'T REMEMBER THEM SAYING ANYTHING ON THE COUNSELING.
THEY HAVE A WHOLE COUNSELING ARM.
IN FACT, KRISTA MALCOLM, WHO DID THE WILLOW EQUESTRIAN THERAPY MENTIONED SHE COUNSELED AT MINISTRY OF JESUS.
OH, WHATEVER YOU, SO, SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, UH, LEANNE, THAT YOU JUST, YOU WANTED TO LEAVE THEM AT LAST YEAR'S FUNDING OR WHAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING DISCRIMINATORY HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY THAT WE'RE HANDING OUT.
I FEEL LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I, I'M COMFORTABLE, UH, REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH A LOT OF LAST YEAR'S FUNDING SINCE THESE AGENCIES RECEIVED AN INCREASE LAST YEAR.
SO I'M, I'M NOT JUST TOTALLY, BUT THEY NEED INCREASES AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH $8,000 NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND ISN'T MINISTRIES OF JESUS ANOTHER ONE WITH A VERY LARGE BUDGET? YES, VERY.
I'M FINE WITH THE 55 THAT THEY DID LAST YEAR, BUT THEY'RE DOING REALLY GREAT WORK.
UM, IF WE GAVE THE HOPE CENTER, UM, 85,000 AND THEN GAVE THE OTHER 3000 FUNDING THE, UM, TWO ONE HEART LINE.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? YEAH, I LIKE THAT.
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I THINK THAT'S GOOD.WE CAN GO BACK OVER EACH ONE IF YOU'D LIKE.
EDMOND FAMILY COUNSELING, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 95,000.
PROJECT 66, UH, REQUESTED 65,000.
EDMUND B MILLS REQUESTED 110,000.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING FULL MINISTRIES THAT JESUS RECOMMENDED 60,600.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 55,000 HOPE CENTER OF EDMOND REC RECOMMEND, OR SORRY, REQUESTED A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 85,000 YMCA REQUESTED 15,000.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 15,000 LILY FIELD, 30,000.
UM, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 30,000 EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL FOUNDATION.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 30,000 EDMOND FINE ARTS INSTITUTE.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 80,000 TURNING POINT MINISTRIES.
YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THEM A HUNDRED FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEACEFUL FAMILY SOLUTIONS.
YOU ARE RECOMMENDING 35,000 US UCO ENDEAVOR GAMES REQUESTED 20,000.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 20,000 BOYS RANCH TOWN REQUESTED 16,928.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 13,000 FOLDS OF HONOR.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 5,000 EDMUND ROUNDUP CLUB.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 71,000 FOSTERING STREET DREAMS. 25,000 WAS REQUESTED.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 20,000 OKLAHOMA PROJECT WOMAN.
YOU'RE THEY REQUESTED, WHICH IS THESE, UH, NEXT FIVE ARE NEW.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 8,000 NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES REQUESTED 50,000.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 20,000 FAMILY THERAPY CLINIC REQUESTED 45,000.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 20,000 WILLOW RANCH RECOMMEND REQUESTED 8,000.
YOU ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THEM FOR FUNDING.
MISSION 1 4 3 REQUESTED 20,000.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING 25,000 CHARACTER COUNSEL OF EDMOND REQUESTED 6,000.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING NO FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.
EDMOND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRUST REQUESTED 25,000.
AND THE LAST ENTITY IS EDMOND LAND CONSERVANCY REQUESTED 5,000.
AND YOU ARE NOT RECOMMENDING FUNDING.
I THINK WE HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING TO CHARACTER COUNSEL
I WANT TO GIVE SOMETHING TO EVERYONE.
SO I'M, IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE OH OR ZERO, OH MY GOD.
A SIGNAL THAT WE'RE DOING LESS THAN LAST YEAR.
WELL, IF WE WERE TO JUST GONNA SHUT 'EM DOWN CO IN 2000, I WOULD SAY TAKE IT FROM THE PROJECT WOMEN.
WELL, I THINK IT, I IT JUST, IT'S A REFLECTION OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE.
I MEAN, I GET THEY DO GRIP WORK.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOBODY ON THIS LIST THAT DOESN'T DO GOOD WORK.
BUT I THINK PART OF THE HARD CHOICES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE HARD CHOICES TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY? AND WHILE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS NEEDED, THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES THAT, THAT THEY CAN BUILD THAT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE YMCA SPORTS.
AND SO THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO COME UP IN THE COMMUNITY.
I GUESS MY, MY CONCERN, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IT'S THAT WHEN THE COUNCIL SEES ITS RECOMMENDATION, IF THEY WOULD GO BACK AND SAY, WE NEED TO FUND CHARACTER COUNCIL OF EDMOND.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY HESITANCY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR LEGACY IS HERE IN EDMOND.
COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE? WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST PART? I COULDN'T HEAR YOUR FIRST PART.
I SAID MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT WHEN THE COUNCIL SEES OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEE THAT WE DID NOT FUND CHARACTER COUNCIL, IF THEY WOULD WANT TO CHANGE THAT AND PUT SOME AND FUND THEM.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THEIR LEGACY IS HERE IN EDMOND.
I THOUGHT I ASKED THAT LAST YEAR IN THE OR LAST YEAR THEY SAID IT WAS FOUNDED BECAUSE OF A EARLY NINETIES OR MID NINETIES MAYOR'S INITIATIVE.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING TOO? YEAH, IT WAS.
THEY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE CHARACTER AND THEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED.
I MEAN, THAT WAS OVER 30 YEARS AGO.
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I'M A LOT OF MAYOR SINCE THEN, WHAT THE COMMISSION AGREES TO DO.I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE, WITH WHAT WE'VE SET THUS FAR.
AND IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO CHANGE IT, THEN THEY CAN, THEY CAN SPEND TWO AND A HALF HOURS DECIDING HOW THEY WANT IT TO BE.
WELL, IN THAT CASE THEY MAY GIVE THEM THE FULL 6,000 AND THAT'S A RISK.
SO IF WE GIVE THEM A THOUSAND, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO ACCEPT IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THE TEMPERATURE ON THE COUNCIL AND HOW THEY YEAR RECEIVE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE IS NO QUESTION LAST YEAR ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION LAST YEAR, THERE WAS NO QUESTION.
AND, AND I WILL SAY THEY DO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN RECOMMENDING.
AND I WILL EXPLAIN OUT YOUR, UM, YEAH, YOUR, YOUR CHOICES AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND HOW YOU PRIORITIZED IN THE RUBRICS AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT YOU, YOU COULD, YOU MARKED OKLAHOMA PROJECT WOMEN TO LOOK AT IT IS A NEW ONE AS WELL.
SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
THAT THAT WAS ONE OF, I MEAN TO APPEASE YOU.
BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE PROJECT WOMEN DOWN TO FIVE AND FUND CHARACTER COUNCIL AT LAST YEAR'S AMOUNT.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THAT MONEY FROM THE FINE ARTS INSTITUTE AND GIVE IT TO MAYBE GIVE IT TO THE CHARACTER COUNCIL.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY ARBITRARY AND IT COULD BE RICH KIDS THAT THEY'RE GIVING MONEY TO.
IS THERE ANY SOCIOECONOMIC CRITERIA THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT? DO THESE KIDS REALLY NEED THAT MONEY? WE DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, I THINK, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'S ONE OF THOSE LEGACY PROGRAMS THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER.
YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE NINETIES, CHARACTER WAS BIG.
ALL THE CITIES, EVERYBODY HAD IT AND THEY KINDA DIED OUT AND THEY KINDA STAYED,
I'M FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH EDMUND FINE ARTS INSTITUTE.
UM, THEY DO, THEY GO IN THE SCHOOLS AND DO SOMETHING CALLED PLAYFUL DRAMATICS.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY GOOD.
UM, I HAVE NOT, WHEN I REGISTER, I HAVEN'T BEEN AWARE OF LIKE A CLICK HERE FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES, BUT I ALSO HAVEN'T PERUSED THEIR WEBSITE ON THAT.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN THEM.
OH, IT'S NOT NEED BASED AT ALL.
I ASKED, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FINE ARTS.
I WAS SAYING IF WE HAD TO HAVE MONEY FOR CHARACTER COUNSEL THAT MAYBE WE COULD JUST TAKE THAT SMALL AMOUNT FROM EDMOND FINE ARTS.
'CAUSE THEY GET SUCH A HUGE NUMBER.
BUT I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF FUNDING CHARACTER C COUNCIL.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE CHARACTER COUNCIL REALLY EVEN MEETS OUR MINIMUM CRITERIA YET, LET ALONE THE PRIORITIES.
IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY UNCOMFORTABLE TO PUT A NONPROFIT OUT OF BUSINESS.
THEY DO HAVE SOME CASH ON HAND AND I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE PAID STAFF, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PUTTING THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.
IT'S, IT'S JUST AN EXTRA PUSH TO FUNDRAISE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE SAID FUNDRAISE.
WELL, I'VE ONLY BEEN ON, ON HERE FOR TWO YEARS, BUT WE SAID THAT LAST YEAR TOO.
AND THEY CAN REAPPLY NEXT YEAR AND, AND TELL US ALL THE GOOD THINGS THEY'VE DONE IN THIS PAST YEAR.
I'M OKAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED TO.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED THAT WE MOVED.
AND SECOND THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST NEED, I JUST NEED A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? I NEED A FULL VOTE.
YEAH, BUT DON'T YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS BEFORE YOU VOTE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SHOW BY HAND.
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THANK YOU.IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A FEW MORE AGENCIES TO, UM, REVIEW AND I THINK WE'VE COME OUT WITH, UM, SOME VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF EDWIN.
CAN I ADD ONE THING JUST SO WE GET IT IN THE MINUTES FOR OUR JANUARY MEETING OR WHENEVER WE KINDA DEBRIEF
AND IT WAS VERY INCONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD, WHICH WHATEVER SOFTWARE WAS BEING USED.
SO THEY HAD, THEY HAD A PDF VERSION.
OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GAVE THEM A WORD VERSION THIS YEAR.
AND SO THAT I THINK SOME WERE TRYING TO TAKE THAT PDF VERSION AND EXPORT IT OUT INTO WORD.
WORK ON WE JUST ADD SOME LITTLE DIRECTIONS OR SOMETHING THAT, OR WE CAN LOOK AT A MORE FILLABLE ONLINE FORM IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, I, AND WE'LL REVIEW THE APPLICATION, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE STREAMLINED OR A WORD LIMIT ON SOME PARTS.
UM, AND MAYBE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY ADMIN RESIDENTS ARE GONNA RECEIVE THE SERVICES OR DIRECTLY BENEFIT.
BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE WERE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND THAT IN THE APPLICATION SOMEWHERE INSTEAD OF IT BEING MORE EXPLICIT.
AND THEN I NOTICED THE NEW APPLICANTS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CURRENTLY FUNDED OUTCOMES QUESTION 'CAUSE I THINK THAT MEANS THE FUNDING THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING FROM OTHER SOURCES.
SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW NOTES AND I KNOW I PROBABLY WON'T REMEMBER TO BRING THEM TO THE JANUARY MEETING, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW 'EM ON THERE.
[3. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the Community Agency Review Commission on Community Agency Review Commission related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. All remarks must be directed to the Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with Section I of the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and upon request at City Hall. Please note that members of the Community Agency Review Commission cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]
CITIZENS WHO TO BE HEARD CITIZENS WHO WANNA MAKE COMMENTS? THAT DOES.I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
JUST WANNA, I'M CINDY SUMMERVILLE.
I REMEMBER THAT FROM YESTERDAY.
GOOD
AND I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND TELL YOU WHAT AN HONOR IT HAS BEEN TO SERVE THESE FAMILIES.
OF ALL THE THINGS I COULD DO WITH MY TIME.
I LOVE THE FAMILIES AND THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS.
YOU COULD NOT ASK TO BE SURROUNDED BY A BETTER BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH THE FUNDING SO IT COULD CONTINUE.
ANY OTHER, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TOO.
I REALLY ENJOYED LEARNING ABOUT OUR CITY AND ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES AND I APPRECIATE THIS BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE WITH EVERYBODY'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
[4. Comments from the Community Agency Review Commission Chair and Members.]
OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS? I JUST WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR WONDERFUL CITY STAFF THAT SUPPORT THIS COMMISSION.THANK YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE, THE PACKETS, MAKING SURE WE HAD ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I KNOW THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND WORK.
I USED TO DO IT SO
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, UM, PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING.
THAT HELPED A WHOLE LOT IN GUIDING OUR DECISIONS.
SO WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CITY STAFF WORKING WITH US THE BEST.
SO NOW I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.