May 05, 2026 Planning Commission

[00:00:01]

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

WE

[1. Call to Order of the Edmond Planning Commission.]

ORDER.

WE'LL START WITH THE, UH, CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM APRIL 21ST, 2026.

ANYBODY HAVE

[2. Consideration of Approval of Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes: April 21, 2026]

WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE.

FOUR TO ZERO.

THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

MOVING ON

[A. Case No. SP24-00018; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan application for Edmond U-Haul Storage Building, located at 913 South Broadway. (Amerco Real Estate Company; Ward 3) Consideration of variance to Title 22.6.5(D)(1) to reduce the sensitive border setback.]

AND IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.

PERFECT.

UH, MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.

THANK YOU.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY 6.3 ACRES.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF BROADWAY AT APPROXIMATELY 10TH STREET.

THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, TWO BUILDINGS.

THE WEST BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 27,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THE EAST BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 88,000 SQUARE FEET.

ACCESS WILL BE FROM BROADWAY.

THE A THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CLOSE THREE OF THE FIVE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS AND BRING THE REMAINING TWO DRIVEWAYS UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS.

THE ELEVATIONS SHOW THE WEST BUILDING TO BE 39 FEET TALL AND THE EAST BUILDING TO BE 45 FEET TALL.

THE FACADE WILL CONSIST OF INSULATED METAL PANELS.

THE APPLICATION INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO TITLE 22 6 5 D TO REDUCE THE SENSITIVE BORDER SETBACK ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.

THIS ITEM REQUIRES TWO MOTIONS.

FIRST ONE ON THE VARIANCE REQUEST, AND THEN ONE ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE VARIANCE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO MR. BRIAN'S PRESENTATION? PERFECT.

IF I COULD PLEASE.

UH, TODD MCKENNA ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

EXCUSE ME.

PERVY PATEL IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

UH, THESE ARE HER DRAWINGS THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS WE GO UP HERE.

SO I JUST WANNA MENTION A COUPLE THINGS ON THE FRONT END.

UH, WE'RE REALLY HERE BECAUSE OF A UNIQUE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH BROUGHT THE EXACT SAME APPLICATION, THERE'D BE NO SENSITIVE BORDER.

WE HAVE A SENSITIVE BORDER 'CAUSE OUR CODE SAYS IF IT'S ZONED OR USED.

AND CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE AERIAL PHOTO, IF YOU DON'T MIND? THANK YOU.

SO THE, THE USE TO THE SOUTH OF US IS A MOBILE HOME PARK, AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE DUPLEXES UP FRONT ON PROPERTY ON BROADWAY.

THE PROPERTY ZONED THE SAME ZONING WE ARE.

SO IF THE USE WAS THE ZONING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SETBACK SINCE BORDER ISSUE.

UH, AND I WAS TALKING TO MRS. CASEY, WHO OWNS THE LAND OF THE SOUTH, WHO'S A, A WONDERFUL LADY BY THE WAY.

AND SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT IF THAT PROPERTY WERE BE HER PROJECT ON HER PROPERTY, THERE WOULD BE NO SETBACK.

UH, SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO OUR PROJECT WHATSOEVER.

IT'S MY OPINION, WHENEVER YOU COME IN ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO HONOR THE INTENT OF THE IN VARIANCE AND HONOR THE INTENT OF THE SETBACK IN THIS EXAMPLE.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT IN SEVERAL WAYS.

THIS IS A $12 MILLION PROJECT.

THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS GONNA GO DOWN ON THIS PROJECT.

IMPERIAL'S WORDS, WE HAVE AS MUCH LANDSCAPING WE'RE GONNA DO AS CAN FLOURISH ON THE SITE.

MY CLIENTS ARE PLANTING 105 TREES THAT WILL BE EIGHT TO 10 FOOT TALL AT THE TIME OF PLANTING ON THE SITE.

40% OF OUR LANDSCAPING IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

WE'RE DOING CLOSER TO 50%.

THE, UH, LANDSCAPE AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE 27,000 SQUARE FEET.

WE'RE DOING 36,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THIS SITE.

AND THIS SITE'S UNIQUE.

IT'S A LITTLE OVER 500 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON BROADWAY, WHICH IS PROBABLY IN MY GUESS, OTHER THAN HOME DEPOT, PROBABLY THE MOST AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE THAT EXISTS IN THE BROADWAY CORRIDOR.

AND SO WHEN I FIRST MET MY CLIENTS A FEW MONTHS AGO, I TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A VERY UNATTRACTIVE SITE.

I DIDN'T LEAD WITH THAT, BUT I SAID THAT IN ONE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS.

SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE VIEW OF THE FRONTAGE ON BROADWAY WITH THIS.

AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH PERVY AND THE CITY STAFF AS WE'VE GOTTEN THERE.

I HAVE ONE PHOTO THAT SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF A VIEW, UH, OR A RENDERING.

IT'S NOT A PHOTO.

UH, IT'S THE ONE THAT SHOWS KIND OF FROM THE NORTH LOOKING BACK.

YEAH, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

THIS GIVES AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE SITE WILL LOOK LIKE.

A COUPLE THINGS THAT MRS. CASEY ASKED ME AND I WANNA MENTION TO Y'ALL.

THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT OCCUPIED.

THE AESTHETIC LOOK ON THE BUILDING, THE IS A U BOX STORAGE BUILDING.

IT WILL OPERATE BETWEEN 9:00 AM AND 4:00 PM IT, YOU'VE SEEN THE BOXES PEOPLE HAVE MAYBE IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS WHEN THEY'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.

SO THOSE WINDOWS EXIST, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO LOOK OUT THOSE WINDOWS BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCESS FOR HUMANS TO BE UP

[00:05:01]

SAME THING WITH THE DOORS ON THE FRONT.

IT'S AESTHETICS TO BREAK UP, UH, THE MONOTONY OF ONE BUILDING.

THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED ARE SOME OF THE NICEST MATERIALS THAT U-HAUL USE ON ANY OF THEIR PROJECTS ANYWHERE IN THIS MARKET OR ANY OTHER MARKET.

UH, IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN HERE AND, AND CHANGE THE VIEW OF THIS SITE.

IT'S CERTAINLY ZONED FOR THIS.

AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE HAVING MUCH DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK VARIANCE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, MRS. CASEY, WHO LIVES TO THIS OR OWNS THE PROPERTY OF THE SOUTH, IS NOT OPPOSED TO US IN ANY MANNER.

AND, AND, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DO THIS.

ODDLY ENOUGH, THIS CAME UP IN OUR CONVERSATION WITH KEN.

THE VARIANCE, IF IT WERE NOT ALLOWED, WOULD MAKE THIS PROJECT IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S 50 FEET OFF OF BROADWAY AND 70 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.

BUT YET YOU COULD COME IN JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US AND DO THE EXACT SAME PROJECT.

SO THERE'S IN MY MIND, A LITTLE EQUITY HERE AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCE BECAUSE OF THAT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, BRETT HOGAN'S HERE, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS, AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU.

MR. MCINNIS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? ATTORNEY MIKE, UH, MR. MCGINNIS? I, I, UH, I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE YOU, BUT DO YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM MS. CASEY OR NO? I DON'T, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THE STORY.

UH, MR. WINTERS, UH, WE'VE MET WITH HER SEVERAL TIMES SATURDAY.

SHE AND I AND HER ROOMMATE DENISE MET AT BRAHMS AT NOON, AND WE TALKED THROUGH THE PROJECT AND I COMMITTED TO HER THAT I WOULD GIVE HER THE LINK SO SHE COULD WATCH THE MEETING AND IF NOT, I WOULD SEND HER THE LINK AFTER IT'S OVER TO HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT I SAID.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ASK HER FOR THAT.

UH, WHEN I CALL HER TOMORROW AND SEE IF SHE WATCHED OR NOT, SHE TOLD ME SHE PROBABLY WOULDN'T.

UH, BUT I TOLD HER I'D SEND HER A LINK TO THE, UH, ARCHIVE VIDEO AFTERWARDS.

SO, I'M SORRY.

ALL YOU HAVE IS MY GOOD WORD WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

OKAY.

UH, SECOND QUESTION IS, IN THIS RENDERING HERE, I DON'T SEE THE EXISTING BUILDING.

IS THAT GONNA BE REDONE? IS IT GONNA BE TORN DOWN? WHAT, WHAT'S THE IDEA ON THAT? THAT BUILDING IS THE CURRENT EXISTING BUILDING STRUCTURE, BUT IT WILL LOOK LIKE THAT IT WILL BE REFACED FOR THAT BUILDING.

THAT'S THE EXACT, THE LOCATION THAT OPERATES TODAY IS A RETAIL OPERATING CENTER.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

PLEASE COME UP TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND PLEASE ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR ME, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS ROUNDED UP, WE'LL TRY TO DO THE BEST TO GET YOU ANSWERS AT THE END.

MY NAME IS, UH, TODD OVERING, UH, 1 0 4 HANOVER DRIVE.

AND EDMOND, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT TODD'S SAYING HERE.

AND ACTUALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE IS SALES TAX IS WHAT DRIVES THIS CITY.

AND BROADWAY IS, UH, A HAVEN FOR STORES AND SHOPS.

AND IT'S A SHAME TO SEE THAT THIS IS GONNA BECOME A SPACE HERE THAT'S REALLY NOT GONNA GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE AND I, EVERYBODY HAS A CHOICE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR PROPERTY, BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS CAN DO TO SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT BRINGS SALES TAX DOLLARS IN, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR, AGAINST THIS PROJECT? IF I COULD, I'LL JUST MENTION, UH, AT THIS SITE THERE'S OVER 6,000 TAXABLE TRANSACTIONS PER YEAR AS A RESULT OF RENTALS AND PURCHASES AND ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS THERE.

THE ABILITY TO EXPAND IT WILL ONLY INCREASE THAT, UH, THESE FOLKS HAVE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THEIR ABILITY TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX BASE, WHICH IS CERTAINLY VERY IMPORTANT, UH, WILL BE TIED TO THE EXPANSION OF THIS PROJECT.

I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, MANY STORAGE IS TAXABLE OR NOT.

USUALLY PEOPLE TRY TO TAX WHATEVER THEY CAN, BUT AS FAR AS THE RETAIL THAT'S THERE NOW, IT'LL BE GREATLY EXPANDED AS A RESULT OF THE EXPANSION OF THIS PROJECT.

NOT TO MENTION A $12 MILLION PROJECT IN THE MATERIALS AND THE SALES TAX ON THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.

IT'LL BE COLLECTED BY THE CITY OF EDMOND.

JUST A, JUST A MENTION OF THAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? THERE WE GO.

TAYLOR WILSON.

7 4 8 DUNE CIRCLE QUESTION WOULD BE IS DID HE MEET WITH THE ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH? I, IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE BEING USED AS RENTALS THAT PROBABLY WOULD WANT IT TO GET CONVERTED TO A, IT'S ALREADY A C3 I THINK, OR WANTS IT TO GET DEVELOPED.

BUT TWO STORY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THOSE IS A, IS AN ACTIVE, UH, IS SENSITIVE RELATIVE.

AND WHERE DOES THAT LINE RELATIVE TO SENSITIVE? IS IT COMMERCIAL AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD JUST MOVE OUT OR WHAT SHOULD BE THE SOLUTION THERE.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEEING

[00:10:01]

MR. MCKINNIS, YOU WANNA JUST ADDRESS THAT ONE REAL QUICK? I KNOW YOU BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON IT.

YEAH, I CAN, WE CAN.

WE ONLY HAVE THE, REALLY, THE ABILITY TO CONTACT THE LANDOWNERS.

UH, MRS. CASEY'S THE LANDOWNER THERE, HER FAMILY'S OWNED THIS PROPERTY SINCE THEY SOLD PART OF IT TO CRAIG AYERS, TO BUILD CRAIG AYERS CHEVROLET IN 1972.

UH, NOBODY'S GOT MORE INVESTED THAN MRS. CASEY IN THE ADJACENT AREA, OF COURSE TO THE WEST OF US AS A RAILROAD TRACKS.

SO WE REACHED OUT AND DISCUSSED WITH EVERY LANDOWNER AS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO BY CITY ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU.

ANY LAST COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS AGENDA.

ITEM THREE A, THIS IS ON THE, I'M SORRY.

THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE VARIANCE.

YEAH.

VOTING ON THREE A ONE.

THE VARIANCE.

SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON THREE A ONE, THE VARIANCE TO, FOR THE PROJECT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON 5 26 26.

NOW THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL THREE A, THE SITE PLAN IS LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO SECOND ON THE SITE PLAN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION, I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND AND BY VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED.

AND OSWELL MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 26TH, 2026.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOVING

[4. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the Planning Commission on Planning Commission related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. All remarks must be directed to the Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with Section I of the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and upon request at City Hall. Please note that members of the Planning Commission cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR, UH, ANYBODY, THIS IS THE TIME FOR ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED ITEMS, NOT RELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT.

IF ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC, IN THE PUBLIC TODAY.

SURE.

HOW YOU DOING? I'M DAVID LAMBETH.

DO I ADDRESS YOU, BRIAN? YEAH, PLEASE.

OKAY.

YEAH, SO, UH, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A REVIEW PROCESS ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WE HAVE.

AND I, UH, RAN INTO MR. ELL AND TOLD HIM THAT THERE WAS SOME MINOR DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND, UM, HE HAD TOLD ME THAT IN THE PAST THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE COULD BRING, UH, THE PLATS TO A HEARING WHERE THEY WEREN'T GONNA BE VOTED ON, WHERE THEY COULD JUST BE DISCUSSED AND JUST KIND OF GET THE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS OUT IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.

WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY? 'CAUSE THIS PLAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY VARIANCES.

AND, UM, I THINK, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I ARE AGREEING THAT THE OVERALL CONCEPT MEETS THE, UM, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT IT WAS PLANNED FOR AND, UH, WHAT IT BEATS IN THE EAST EDMOND 50, YOU KNOW, 2050 PLAN ALONG WITH OUR COMP PLAN.

BUT, UM, I THINK THE CONCERN IS, IS JUST THERE'S JUST A SINGLE USE OVER AN AREA THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MIXED USE.

AND ANYWAY, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE, UM, IN THE MOST PROFESSIONAL WAY THAT I'VE BEEN LIMITED, UH, MY RIGHTS TO DUE PROCESS AS FAR AS COMING HERE, I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES VIA EMAIL, UH, IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL MANNER IF WE COULD HAVE IT BROUGHT HERE AND, AND TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY.

AND, UM, I HAVEN'T HAD A RESPONSE TO THAT.

IT'S JUST BEEN RESPONSES IN THE FORM OF JUST PRODUCE MORE WORK OR DO THIS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY, IN MY MIND, ANY FINALITY THAT ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW, EITHER A, DEFEND OUR CASE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, OR B, LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNSEL FOR THAT MATTER.

AND CITIZENS, MOST IMPORTANTLY SEE THAT THE OVERALL PICTURE IS, IS THIS ISN'T AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BRINGING TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF SEWER AND WATER IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND BY DOING SO, UNLOCKING 400 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE HAVE $780 MILLION COMMITTED TO, AND THAT'S $0 FROM THE CITY.

SO I, I DO THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, THIS IS NORTH OF CREST, NORTH OF SHOWBIZ AND, UM, CONNECTED WITH, UM, MR. WALZER'S AND MR. MCGREGOR WITH THE LIBERTY PARK DEAL.

AND, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON TRAFFIC PLANS THAT GO ALL THE WAY TO SORGHUM MILL AND, AND GO A MILE IN EACH DIRECTION AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THAT FAR AHEAD.

AND WE'VE BEEN PLANNING TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY OUT TO 2040 WHILE THIS EXCITEMENT'S GOING ON AROUND COBELL I 35, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT LONG TERM SAYING, WELL, WE WANNA LIVE HERE AND BE A PART OF THIS AND THERE'S 13 OR 14 OTHER PROJECTS TO CONSIDER IN THE MIDST OF THIS.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A BIG PICTURE THERE AND IT'S JUST KIND OF DISHEARTENING THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING ROUND AND ROUND FOR A YEAR.

AND, UM, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF

[00:15:01]

OKAY.

AND, AND I GUESS MY ASK IS, IS, UM, 'CAUSE I, I BEGGED AND PLEADED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN SINCE WE SUBMITTED IT.

AND, UM, WELL WE STARTED, WE TRIED IN OCTOBER, WE SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IN NOVEMBER.

I COPIED EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD, AND I CANNOT SAY THAT I COPIED PLANNING BECAUSE I, I DON'T REMEMBER, WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT EMAIL YET, BUT I COPIED EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD, BUT IT WAS MR. SMITH'S IDEA TO HAVE ME EMAIL EVERYBODY, WHICH WAS A GREAT IDEA, AND JUST SAY, HEY, HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS TRAFFIC? DO WE DO IT ON A SMALL SCALE OR A LARGE SCALE? BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE END GAME LIKE, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA GET STUCK WITH ESSENTIALLY? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT ASKING HIM TO ATTEST TO, BUT 75 DAYS LATER I GOT A RESPONSE AND IT WAS FROM MR. SMITH.

AND, AND HE WAS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

AND HE SAW THE JUST LACK OF COMMUNICATION THERE WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A TRAFFIC THING THAT I'M PLANNING BEFORE A 160 ACRES WE'RE ZONING AND B 400 ACRES WE'RE PLOTTING, THIS IS KIND OF A BIG DEAL.

DO YOU WANT MICROCOSMS OF TRAFFIC PLAN OR DO YOU WANT US TO PLAN A FULL BLOWN 20 YEAR TRAFFIC PLAN THAT COVERS FOUR OR 500 ACRES? AND IT TOOK 75 DAYS TO GET THE ANSWER THAT HE AND I ASSUMED WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE FROM DAY ONE, BUT WE JUST, WE WANTED GUIDANCE THERE AND I JUST, I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED.

SO AGAIN, WE LOST 75 DAYS THERE AND NOW WE'VE SUBMITTED IT AND WE EXPLAINED TO THEM WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE PEOPLE TRYING TO CLOSE AND GET, YOU KNOW, THEIR FINANCING, WHY THE ECONOMY IS ALIGNED FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'VE GOT, WE BELIEVE JUST A SHORT WINDOW THAT WE DON'T WANNA LOSE OUT ON COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, AND SO, UM, TIME MATTERS TO US.

IT ABSOLUTELY MATTERS.

I MEAN, I BEGGED FOR A MAY HEARING FOR OUR PLOT KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LONG SHOT AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EVEN GETTING A RESPONSE IF WE COULD MEET THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAVE IN JUNE.

AND SO I'M HERE BECAUSE THE 13TH IS WHEN THE MILLERS WOULD'VE TO GO OUT.

SO I GUESS MY, MY MOST IMPORTANT ASK THAT HOPEFULLY Y'ALL COULD GET WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND DECIDE IS, IS CAN WE BRING IT TO YOU IN TWO WEEKS AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND SHOW YOU OUR OVERALL PLAN OVER FOUR OR 500 ACRES WITH THE GUYS AT LIBERTY PARK AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND JUST GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, JUST SHOW YOU THE MERITS OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

AND UH, WE'LL TAKE THAT UNDER, UNDER ADVISEMENT AND STAFF WILL THANK YOU.

HAVE HEARD IT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE.

YEP.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC PLANNING OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION? NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

DO THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS RELATED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? NOT ON ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN IN A SECOND.

SO MOVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND.

MY VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.