May 11, 2026 City Council / Public Works Authority

TWO C, PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING MAY 17TH TO MAY 23RD IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.

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[C. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing May 17th to May 23rd as National Public Works Week in the City of Edmond.]

WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELLBEING OF PEOPLE OF EDMOND OKLAHOMA.

AND WHEREAS THESE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORK PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING, AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY'S ROADWAYS, TRAFFIC SAFETY, BUILDING PUBLIC BUILDINGS, WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, AND SOLID WASTE REMOVAL SERVICES, ALL OF WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2026 MARKS THE 66TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 17TH TO THE 23RD, 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.

WELL, I HAD A REALLY LONG SPEECH PREPARED FOR THIS , BUT I THINK I'LL SPARE YOU TONIGHT.

UH, I DO WANNA THANK YOU MAYOR NASH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION AND I WANNA THANK THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.

AND I WANNA RECOGNIZE OUR 140 PLUS PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES WHO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY FAITHFULLY EVERY DAY THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU DON'T SEE.

UH, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU, YOU SEE THEM DOING, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE DELIVERING SERVICE FOR THIS GREAT COMMUNITY AND REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS.

AND WANNA THANK THE COUNCIL AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND FINALLY,

[D. Presentation of a Proclamation Recognizing May 2026 as Bike Month in the City of Edmond.]

2D PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING MAY, 2026 IS BIKE MONTH IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.

WHEREAS THE BICYCLE IS AN ECONOMICAL, HEALTHY AND CONVENIENT AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND AN EXCELLENT FORM OF RECREATION AND ENJOYMENT OF EDMOND SCENIC BEAUTY.

AND WHEREAS CREATING BICYCLE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES HAS BEEN SHOWN TO IMPROVE BUSINESS CITIZENS' HEALTH, WELLBEING, QUALITY OF LIFE, COMMUNITY SPIRIT, TRAFFIC, SAFETY, AND TO REDUCE POLLUTION, CONGESTION, AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROADS.

AND WHEREAS THE EDUCATION OF BICYCLISTS AND MOTORISTS AS TO THE PROPER AND SAFE OPERATION OF BICYCLES ON ROADS IS IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND COMFORT OF ALL USERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

AND WHEREAS THE EDMUND BICYCLE COM COMMITTEE, THE ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA GOVERNMENTS AND OTHER FRIENDS OF BICYCLING THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND REGION ARE PROMOTING GREATER PUBLIC AWARENESS AND SAFETY EDUCATION TO REDUCE INJURIES AND FATALITIES FOR ALL.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF EDMUND HAS PART PARTNERED WITH THE EDMUND BICYCLE COMMITTEE, UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA, EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OTHER FRIENDS TO CELEBRATE MAY BIKE MONTH WITH MANY GREAT EVENTS PLANNED, INCLUDING A WILL ROGERS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BIKE BUS RIDE ALONG, BIKE ENROLLED SCHOOL DAY EVENTS AT CENTRAL MIDDLE SCHOOL, WILL ROGERS ELEMENTARY, ORVIS REISNER ELEMENTARY AND MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL BIKE TO WORK DAY ART AND HISTORY TOURS OF EDMUND BY BIKE, BIKE TO SCHOOL WEEK AT UCO BIKED PLACE OF WORSHIP WEEKEND, A RIGHT OF SILENCE AND MORE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY, 2026 IS BIKE MONTH IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.

I KNOW YOU

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU RECOGNIZE MAY AS BIKE MONTH.

THE MISSION OF THE CITY, UM, OF BICYCLE COMMITTEE IS TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO BICYCLE SAFETY, EDUCATION AND CREATION OF BICYCLE TRAILS, LANES, PATHS, AND SIGNAGE.

IN EDMOND, THE EDMOND BICYCLE COMMITTEE OR EBC COMMITTEE ACTIVELY PROMOTES THE PARTICIPATION OF EDMOND RESIDENTS IN THE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES REGARDING THE BICYCLE EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WORK TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERS HAD THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO FULFILL, FULLY IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN.

I JUST RETURNED, UM, ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO FROM OUR FIRST BIKE, UM, BUS AT ORVIS REISNER WHERE WE HAD 50 PARTICIPANTS.

IT WAS OUTSTANDING.

AND SO THAT WE, WE HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU IN COMPLETING YOUR MASTER PLAN OF A MULTIMODAL COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THOSE NEW ROADS AND REPAIR OF THOSE ROADS, THE SAFETY OF OUR CYCLISTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[3. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the City Hall lobby. Please note that members of the City Council cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]

ON TO ITEM THREE, CITIZEN COMMENTS.

BEFORE WE DO CITIZEN COMMENTS EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, WE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS.

AND TODAY, I THINK IT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE.

UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON CITY RELATED MANNERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA OR SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

CITIZENS MUST SIGN UP TO SPEAK EITHER ONLINE BY 3:00 PM THE DAY OF THE MEETING, OR IN PERSON BEFORE THE MEETING HAS STARTED.

ALL REMARKS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE MAYOR OR WHOEVER IS SITTING IN THIS CHAIR.

YOU'RE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL CANNOT RESPOND TO ISSUES BROUGHT UP IN CITIZEN COMMENTS IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT MIGHT EVEN BE CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS ITEM 12 D, WHICH IS TITLED LAKE ARCADIA ACCESS.

THAT ITEM IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, IS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF ON WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR.

AS WE'RE GATHERING INPUT FROM CITIZENS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

ANYTHING YOU SAY HERE TONIGHT WILL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT WITHOUT ANSWERING QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, AS WE ARE WAITING ON MULTIPLE IN INPUTS SESSIONS AND SEVERAL BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.

IF YOU DID NOT SIGN UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE COUNCIL OF YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR IDEAS, YOUR SUGGESTIONS, WE HAVE AN EDMUND MATTERS TOWN HALL TYPE MEETING SCHEDULED WITH COUNCILMAN FRAME AND PATTERSON THIS WEDNESDAY AT NOON AT THE EDMUND RAIL YARD.

WE'LL ALSO BE ASKING CITY STAFF TO SCHEDULE US ANOTHER EDMUND MATTERS FOR THURSDAY, MAY 21ST AT FIVE 30 HERE AT CITY HALL.

SO YOU'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF O OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK NOW AS YOU COME FORWARD, I'LL CALL YOU BY NAME.

WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SPEAKING TONIGHT ON A VARIETY OF ISSUES.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS SO THAT WE HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD.

IS MR. GORDON HERE? KIMBERLY GORDON.

FIRST PERSON IS DARRELL GORDON.

NEITHER ONE ARE HERE.

APRIL LONG.

IS APRIL LONG HERE IS REBECCA WALTER HERE? YES.

I'M REBECCA WALTER, AND MY ADDRESS IS 7,800 INDIAN SPRINGS ROAD.

PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND MOVE THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU.

DID YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU.

THAT HAPPENED AT ARCADIA.

THANK YOU MAYOR NASH FOR INVITING US AS CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN GIVING FEEDBACK BASED ON THE TRAGEDY

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MY FAMILY LIVES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN BETWEEN MEMORIAL AND THE ARCADIA CONSERVATION EDUCATION AREA ON MIDWEST BOULEVARD.

THE ARCADIA CONSERVATION EDUCATION AREA IS A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO OVER THE YEARS AND PARTICIPATE.

BUT THE LAST TWO YEARS, SPECIFICALLY THE INCREASED DRUG USAGE IN THAT AREA AND THE BOLDNESS OF PEOPLE USING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND PARTICIPATING IN BEHAVIORS THAT DO NOT FEEL SAFE OR SECURE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITIZENS HAS INCREASED SO MUCH THAT WE NO LONGER PARTICIPATE GOING THERE.

AND I THINK THAT BOLDNESS IS WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT TRAGEDY ACROSS THE LAKE FROM US.

SO MY REQUEST IS JUST THAT AS EVERYONE THE COUNCIL IS THINKING AND COMING UP WITH IDEAS, I'M NOT HERE TO GIVE THOSE 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WOULD BE.

BESIDES MONITORING AND HAVING ACCOUNTABILITY IS TO ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE WHATEVER IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS AND PROCESSES THAT YOU IMPLEMENT IN PUBLIC AREAS THROUGHOUT THE LAKE WHERE, WHERE OUR CITIZENS GO AND PARTICIPATE TO HELP.

UM, JUST BRING THAT CONFIDENCE BACK TO OUR CITIZENS, THAT THOSE ARE SAFE AREAS AND MAKE THEM NOT AS COMFORTABLE AREAS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THINGS THAT ARE NOT LEGAL ACTIVITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.

ALRIGHT,

[4. Appointments and Reappointments:]

TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT.

IT'S WARD ONE APPOINTMENT, UH, APPOINTMENT OF CATHERINE SMITH IS CITIZEN TAX INCREMENT FINANCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO FULFILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF CLARK JOLLY TERM.

EXPIRES JUNE 30TH, 2027.

CAN I GET A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE.

ITEM FIVE, CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS FIVE A IS CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE LEGACY AT COVE.

[A. Case No. SP25-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan Application for The Legacy at Covell Common Area A, Lot 10, Located on the North Side of Covell Road, West of I-35. (The Seitz Group, Inc.; Ward 2)Said Consideration to Include Consideration of Approval of the Following Variance to Title 22, Zoning Ordinance, of the Edmond Municipal Code:A Variance to Title 22.6.1(E)(4)(b) which Requires 150 feet of Separation Between Points of Access.]

COMMON AREA, A LOT 10 LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COVE ROAD, WEST OF I 35.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU MR. BRIAN? YES, SIR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

KEN BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

THIS CASE REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL ACTION BECAUSE IT INCLUDES A VARIANCE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY 3.9 ACRES.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HERITAGE PARK DRIVE AND MARKET STREET.

THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, TWO BUILDINGS APPROXIMATELY 12,000 SQUARE FEET.

EACH THREE POINTS OF ACCESS ARE PROVIDED, ONE FROM HERITAGE PARK DRIVE, ONE FROM MARKET STREET, AND ONE FROM THE PRIVATE DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE ACCESS FROM HERITAGE PARK DRIVE REQUIRES A VARIANCE TO THE 150 FOOT SEPARATION STANDARD STAFF ANALYSIS OF THIS REQUEST FINDS THAT THE OVERALL CONFIGURATION OF THE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION SUPPORT SAFE AND EFFICIENT TRAFFIC MOVEMENT AND THEREFORE HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE VARIANCE.

THE ELEVATIONS SHOW THE BUILDING TO BE 30 FEET TALL AT THEIR HIGHEST POINT AND THE FACADES CONSIST OF BRICK AND WOOD.

LOOK PLANKS TWO MARTS ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS ITEM.

FIRST ONE ON THE VARIANCE AND THEN ONE FOR THE SITE PLAN AT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING.

ON APRIL 21ST, 2026, PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE SITE PLAN AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? I I JUST HAVE ONE MR. BRIAN, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LINES ON .

CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE ON THIS, THAT VARIANCE THE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS? I THINK SO.

UM, SO LET ME, LET ME STUDY THIS A SECOND.

PULL THE BOTTOM.

I THINK IT'S, OH, I THINK IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE.

KIND OF THAT ROAD THAT'S HAS A, GOES UP AND THEN SHOOTS OFF AT AN ANGLE.

I THINK IT'S RIGHT THERE.

AND SO THE SEPARATION WOULD BE BETWEEN THE ROAD ON THE SOUTH AND THAT DRIVE ACCESS ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY INSIDE THE ENTIRE AREA ANYWAY, RIGHT? YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO MR. MAYOR? MOVE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, VARIANCE

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IN ITEM FIVE A.

ONE SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

WE'RE BACK ON THE ITEM.

WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN.

[B. Case No. Z25-00014; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4083 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located on South Bryant, East of Smiling Hill from 'PUD Z23-00007' Bryant Avenue and Smiling Hill Boulevard to 'PUD Z25-00014' The Stables at Hallmark and Providing an Effective Date. (Sun Properties, LLC; Ward 3)]

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CASE NUMBER Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 4.

PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 8 3.

REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON SOUTH BRYANT EAST OF SMILING HILL FROM PUDZ TWO THREE DASH 0 0 0 0 7 BRYANT AVENUE AND SMILING HILL BOULEVARD TO PUDZ TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 1 4.

THE STABLES AT HALLMARK AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES SIR.

MR. BRYAN? YES, SIR.

KEN BRYAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY NINE ACRES.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRYANT AT THE CITY LIMIT LINE WITH OKLAHOMA CITY NEARBY.

ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE WEST ACROSS BRYANT AND TO THE NORTH.

ARE ZONED AND DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, BUT IS PLANTED AS COMMON AREA AND CONTAINS FLOODPLAINS TO THE SOUTH, IS OKLAHOMA CITY AND IS CURRENTLY BEING REDEVELOPED TO ACCOMMODATE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.

EDMUND'S CURRENT ZONING CODE UTILIZES A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SUCH AS THE ONE BEING PROPOSED.

THE PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.

THE ALLOWED USES WOULD INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, VETERINARIAN, PLACE OF WORSHIP, RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE, EXCLUDING DISPENSARIES AND LIVE WORK BUILDINGS.

A MAXIMUM OF 60 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED AT A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT UNITS PER BUILDING.

THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE LIMITED TO AN AGE RESTRICTED 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE ONE STORY AND 30 FEET FOR THE INTERIOR BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS WITHIN 300 FEET OF BRYANT WOULD BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE STORIES.

ACCESS WILL BE FROM BRIAN AT UP TO TWO LOCATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET THE LANDSCAPE CODE.

WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROVISION THAT THE REQUIRED PLANT UNITS MAY BE MORE UNIFORMLY DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS S ONE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS PLAN CATEGORY IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND REFLECTS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WAS COMMON IN THE 1960S, SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.

THESE AREAS TEND TO HAVE EASY ACCESS TO A FULL COMPLEMENT OF UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES DUE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT LIFECYCLE AND DESIRABILITY.

THESE AREAS OFTEN ATTRACT, UM, INFILL OR REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP ENSURE THESE OPPORTUNITIES CONTRIBUTE TO THE AREA.

THE PLAN CALLS FOR DESIGNS TO BE SENSITIVE TO NEARBY DEVELOPMENT BY MAKING EFFICIENT USE OF TWO OR THREE STORY BUILDINGS TO LINE ARTERIALS, MINIMIZE SURFACE PARKING LOTS, AND PROVIDE AMPLE LANDSCAPING.

AND SCREENING AN AREA IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CATEGORIZED OPEN SPACE AND WILL BE LEFT UNDEVELOPED.

THE PROPOSED PUD CONFORMS TO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE APPLICABLE PLAN CATEGORIES AT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 7TH, 2026.

PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? UH, THANK YOU.

UH, TODD MCINNIS.

I REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER.

UH, JOHN GRAVITT, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT.

MARK GRUBBS IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

HE'S HERE AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, THIS PUD WAS APPROVED IN 2023 AND IT CAME BACK WITH A MODIFICATION HERE THAT SLIGHTLY REDUCES THE TYPES OF USES AND A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN THE NUMBER OF TOTAL RESIDENTIAL USES.

THE 300 FEET WITHIN BRYAN IS FOR KINDA LIVE WORK, PLAY RETAIL, AND, UH, OTHER USES IN THERE.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN 2023 WITH A FEW CLARIFICATIONS.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU'VE HAD A LOT MORE I THINK, COMMENT AND ACTIVITY THREE YEARS AGO.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY OWNED BY, WELL IT'S NOT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S OWNED THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY LIMIT LINE IS THE SAME OWNER.

SO IT'S A COMPANION DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE HAVING TO DO A PUD BECAUSE OF THAT.

OKLAHOMA CITY SIDE IS ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME CONSTRUCTION ON THAT SIDE IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THERE LATELY.

SO HAVING QUESTIONS BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

I JUST HAD TWO REAL QUICK.

UM, AND I MISS, I MET WITH MR. RABBIT.

I THINK THIS IS A, A NEED CONCEPT MEETS A HOUSING NEED THAT, THAT WE HAVE DEMAND FOR.

UM, I THINK HE, I THINK YOU TOLD ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER ED, THIS PART OF THE, THE ADMIN PART OF THIS.

WE USE EDMOND UTILITIES.

RIGHT.

JUST MAKING SURE.

SO I'M GONNA SAY HE DOESN'T KNOW OR THE ANSWER'S NO, BUT MARK YOU WANNA HE'S DOING THE PROJECT ON THE SOUTH AS WELL, SO OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, I SAW A COMMENT IN THERE AND I KNOW IT WAS KIND OF UP IN THE AIR WHEN HE AND I TALKED, BUT THE, THE ROAD THERE BEING PUBLIC OR PRI PUBLIC OR PRIVATE AND KINDA SHARED WITH OKLAHOMA CITY.

HAVE WE WORKED OUT? MAYBE A QUESTION FOR KEN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HAVE WE WORKED OUT THE HANDSHAKE OF WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT ON THE ROAD? I'LL ASK MARK GRUBB, BUT HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD NO.

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MARK'S WITH GRUBBS IN JUNIOR.

I KNOW WE'RE JUST AT ZONING, BUT JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S YEAH.

MARK GRUBBS, 1800 SOUTH SARAH ROAD.

UM, AT THIS TIME WE'RE PLANNING ON THAT ROAD TO REMAIN PRIVATE AND, UH, BE MAINTAINED BY THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPER.

AND OR, AND HOA PROPERTY OWNER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE, THE AUDIENCE THAT'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? MY NAME'S DAN O'NEILL.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, RIGHT NORTH OF IT, UHUM CREEK.

AND UH, ALSO, UM, UH, CHIMNEY, CHEYENNE RIDGE, OR CHEYENNE, I THINK THAT'S THE NAME OF IT, IS INVOLVED IN IT ALSO.

AND AS WELL AS WELLINGTON, WHICH IS IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

UM, THERE ONE POINT YOU, YOU ATTEMPTED TO CLARIFY, OKLAHOMA CITY'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY SIDE AS FAR AS WATER AND SEWER.

AND WE'RE TAKING CARE, EDMONTON WILL TAKE CARE OF WATER AND SEWER ON THE, ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE RIGHT OF THE BORDER.

WILL WE ALSO DO TRASH IN THAT AREA? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN ANSWER ON.

JUST 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S RATHER SMALL.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, THE, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NOT A SIGN POSTED.

I WENT LOOKING AT IT AT THE REQUEST OF A CITIZEN, UH, TO GO LOOK AT THE PROJECT.

BUT THE NOTICE SIGN, UH, IS NOT POSTED, WAS NOT POSTED FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

AND TODAY, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T, BUT ANYWAY, UH, NORMALLY THAT IS A SHOWSTOPPER.

IF THE SIGN'S NOT THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS THERE TWO WEEKS AGO OR THE DAY, THE MINUTE BEFORE I, I NOTICED THAT.

BUT THE, YOU YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING COUNCILMAN WATERSON ABOUT THAT.

AND, UH, ALL I CAN SAY IS I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AGAIN, , AND I'VE GOT PRETTY GOOD EYESIGHT.

I DROVE BY TODAY AND IT WASN'T THERE.

SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IS THAT GREEN AREA OVER THERE, WILL NOT BE DISTURBED.

I THINK THAT IS A, A CONCERN.

UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ROAD BEING SPLIT AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD IDEA ON THE BORDERS.

UH, I, I DISLIKED THE IDEA OF, UH, IT BEING A PRIVATE STREET.

UH, I THINK, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THIS PLACE, UH, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, UH, I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN ON ANOTHER, ON OTHER, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, APARTMENT TYPE AREAS.

UH, WHEN THAT ISSUE COMES UP, THEY GOT EVERYBODY POINTING THEIR HANDS EVERY WHICH WAY AND NO ONE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

UH, BECAUSE, UH, I, IN PERSIMMON CREEK, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, UH, I KNOW BOB EVERSON WHO BUILT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT 30 SOME YEARS AGO, AND HE'S LONG SINCE, UH, LEFT THAT PROJECT IN CHARGE OF, OF OTHER PEOPLE.

THE HOA IS IN CHARGE OF IT SO HAPPENED THE HOA PRESIDENT RESIGNED TWO YEARS AGO.

AND, UH, THE PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET THINGS REORGANIZED IN THAT AREA.

AND, UH, THERE ARE HOA, UH, UH, COMMON AREA, UH, THE DUES AND, AND TAXES HAVE NOT BEEN PAID ON THAT FOR TWO YEARS.

SO I KNOW SOMEBODY'S NOT LOOKING AT THINGS THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE TAKEN CARE OF AND THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS HAPPEN.

BUT THE POINT I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS IS I SEE ALL THE CLEAR CUTTING THAT HAPPENED SOUTH IN THE OKLAHOMA CITY.

THERE'S HARDLY A TREE STANDING LEFT.

UH, SINCE THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, I HOPE THE SAME THING DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

THERE IS A, IF YOU COULD SHOW THE LAST FILE ON THE PAGE THAT HAS THE RED THAT SHOWS THE, UH, UH, THE LAYOUT FOR THE BUILDINGS AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A RED .

OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

UH, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

BUT YOU'LL SEE THOSE TREES THAT ARE AT THE VERY TOP RIGHT BY THE ROAD.

UH, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE.

UH, I, I I THINK THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT ALSO.

UH, BUT THERE'S A RED ONE, A FILE AFTER THIS I'D LIKE TO SEE HAVE SHOWN.

THERE YOU GO.

UH, THEY SAY THAT THE DETENTION POND, WHICH

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IT GOES INTO, UH, UH, CHEYENNE RIDGES, UH, DETENTION PONDS OVER THERE.

THERE'S SOME KIND OF CHANNEL GOING THROUGH THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A CHANNEL FOR, UH, WHY IT'S GOING THROUGH THERE, BUT THEY SAID IN IN YOUR NARRATIVE THAT IT WILL NOT BE DISTURBED.

BUT THAT BOTHERS ME.

UH, AND ALSO THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, WELLSTON, THEY HAVE SOME ISSUES ON HOW THERE'S A BUTS THEY SHARE SOME OF THE SAME COMMON AREAS AND, AND DETENTION PONDS.

SO ANYWAY, UH, THE POINT IS I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT I THINK THERE'S SOME DETAILS THAT NEED TO BE MADE UP, MADE UP.

THEY SAY ONLY 60 APARTMENTS, YET THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO STICK, UH, TWO FLOORS OF APARTMENTS OVER THE, THE RETAIL.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR INTENT.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT INCLUDES THE 60 OR THE NOT INCLUDES THE 60.

THEY CALLED THAT, UH, UH, SORT OF AN A LIVE IN BUSINESS TYPE ARRANGEMENT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ADDED HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

BUT THAT NUMBER IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND ALSO IT IS A, IT IS A MUCH IMPROVED SITE PLAN THAN WHAT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE.

UH, THE, THE, UH, AGE OF 55 AND OVER IS A GOOD QUALITY IMPROVEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOMES ARE GONNA BE PUT AND APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE PUT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HEAR THAT KIND OF INFORMATION.

UH, BUT ANYWAY, THE ENTRANCE TO THE, UH, THIS IS A FOUR LANE ROAD IN EDMONTON BRYANT, AND WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE AND A HALF OF THE ENTRANCES INTO THIS PROJECT.

THE PROJECT AT THE VERY NORTHWEST CORNER HAS AN ACCESS TO THE RETAIL AND, UH, UH, ONE OF THE PLANS DID NOT HAVE THAT PARKING GOING BACK TO THAT ACCESS ON THE BORDER.

BUT THAT'S SORT OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL GET IRONED OUT EVENTUALLY.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING BUT ANOTHER SITE, SITE PLANS THAT THEY'VE SHOWN THAT WAS NOT THERE.

SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF LITTLE DETAILS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY SINCE THE, UH, SINCE THE SIGNAGE IS NOT THERE, UH, MAYBE TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE KNOWING PARTICULARLY ABOUT IF THERE IS A SENSITIVE BORDER ISSUE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

THANK YOU, DAN.

DOES ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS? MR. MCINNIS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THAT? UH, CERTAINLY.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UH, THERE'S TWO ZONING NOTICE SIGNS ON THIS PROPERTY.

UH, WE HAD TO GIVE PICTURES OF THEM WHEN WE DID OUR APPLICATION.

THEN WE DID A CONTINUANCE AT THE LAST MEETING TO GET TO MAY 11TH, WHICH IS TONIGHT.

AND WE GAVE THOSE PICTURES TO THE CITY.

THEN I JUST ASKED MR. GRAVETT, IT'S NEWS TO HIM THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE.

THEY WERE THERE, TWO OF THEM.

AND YEAH, AND I'LL DRIVE BY THERE TONIGHT.

THAT'S JUST NEW INFORMATION.

I TOLD HIM WHEN WE EMAILED THIS MORNING, I DROVE BY THERE THE OTHER DAY AND THEY WERE THERE.

SO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY BLEW AWAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, NO, I MEAN THE, WE HIRE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO PUT 'EM IN THE GROUND.

WE CHANGED THE DATES FOR MAY 11TH.

UH, THEY WERE THERE WITHIN THE REQUISITE PERIOD OF TIME, THE 20 DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING.

THEY WERE UPDATED FOR THIS HEARING.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO COMMUNICATE RELATED TO THAT.

I WISH I HAD, I WISH WE ALL DRIVE OVER THERE RIGHT NOW AND LOOK AND SEE.

THAT'S NEWS TO US.

UH, I KNOW THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THIS, WE'VE NEVER HEARD FROM A SINGLE NEIGHBOR ON THE PROJECT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.

UH, IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS GREEN SLIDE.

UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS.

UH, AND WE CAN'T HAVE UNDISTURBED LAND AND A DETENTION POND.

IT'S NOT A DETENTION POND.

THAT'S A UNDISTURBED SPACE ON THAT EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

SIMPLY.

UH, ALSO THERE IS NO S BORDER REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL AND EXTRA RESIDENTIAL.

THERE ARE NO APARTMENTS BY THEIR DEFINITION ON THIS PROJECT.

60 IS A MAX THAT'S IN THERE, THERE ARE NO OTHER VARIANCES IDENTIFIED IN THE PUD WHATSOEVER.

SO I APPRECIATE THE HISTORY ABOUT CHEYENNE RIDGE AND THOSE OTHER AREAS IN WELLINGTON PARK.

UH, BUT THE PROJECT IN FRONT OF US HAS THE LIMITATIONS.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED IT HAS THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED.

IT'S MORE THAN IT'S REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED FOR A PUD APPLICATION.

AND, UH, AND I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS PRIVATELY IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CALL ME ABOUT THESE.

UH, THOSE WERE NEW QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE NOT GERMANE TO THE ZONING.

BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE NEIGHBORS LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE.

I'LL SEE IF MARK WANTS TO OFFER ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO THAT

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THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE SOUTH PARCEL AND WELLINGTON PARK.

IT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH THIS PARCEL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU ASKED ABOUT TRASH.

DO YOU KNOW, EDMOND? I CAN'T IMAGINE THE CITY OF EDMOND REQUIRES EDMOND RESIDENTS TO USE EDMOND TRASH SANITATION SERVICES.

UH, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT TO BE ANY DIFFERENT.

THAT'S BY ORDINANCE.

OKAY, THANKS.

YEP.

ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING ITEM FIVE B.

ITEM FIVE C, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER ONE SIX DASH 26, FIXING WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES FOR SERVICES INSIDE AND WHOLESALE RATES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

FIVE ZERO THANK YOU.

[C. Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 16-26 Fixing Water and Wastewater Rates for Services Inside and Wholesale Rates Outside the City Limits of the City of Edmond, Oklahoma; And Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]

MR. KNIFING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UM, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS, UM, BASED ON OUR FEEDBACK FROM THE APRIL 20TH MEETING, THE OPTION 1D, WE DIDN'T LABEL IT 1D IN THE, UM, IN THE APPENDIX ANYWHERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE RATE RESOLUTION.

UH, JUST A REMINDER, WE'VE HAD, UH, THIS'LL BE THE EIGHTH PUBLIC MEETING AND PROBABLY 20 PLUS HOURS OF MEETINGS.

I'M GONNA GUESS AT THIS POINT.

UM, I CAN GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU WOULD LIKE OR, UM, LIKE FULL PRESENTATION OR I'LL LEAVE THAT TO COUNSEL'S DISCRETION.

BUT, UM, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THIS AT, AT LENGTH, SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST START PLOWING THROUGH IT.

ALRIGHT, SO JUST A, JUST A REMINDER.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO SECURE EDMOND'S WATER FUTURE.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

UM, GETTING OUR WATER PLANT UPGRADED FROM 10 MILLION GALLONS A DAY TO 30 AND EXPANDABLE TO 65 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

UH, PRESERVING OUR, OUR SYSTEM FOR THE, NOT ONLY NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE AS A REMINDER, YOU KNOW, 50 PLUS PERCENT OF THE PROJECT IS JUST PRESERVING WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE THERE.

NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL CONTROL CAN'T BE SAID ENOUGH.

THE WATER INDEPENDENCE, I, I THINK EVERYBODY'S SEEN A LOT OF ARTICLES LATELY FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND HERE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REGIONALLY, THEY DON'T HAVE WATER.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHERE THEY GET WATER.

UM, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION THAN WHAT WE'RE HAVING IS WE HAVE THE WATER, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TREAT IT THROUGH THE PLANT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GONNA GET US.

AND THEN AVOIDING THE, UM, YOU KNOW, KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU, IF YOU WILL.

UM, SO A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE KEY DURING OUR, UH, MANY DISCUSSIONS WAS, UH, THE RATE ASSISTANCE AND BEING MINDFUL OF THE IMPACTS TO, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

SO WE'VE GOT A, UM, I GUESS A TAG ON WITH THE LIHEAP STANDARD.

SO THOSE CUSTOMERS, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A TWO TIER LARGER INCREASE ON THE BASE RATE ON THE WATER SIDE, WE, UH, PUT IN THE 25% DISCOUNT SO THAT THE, AS THAT GOES UP THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THAT THAT DISCOUNT WOULD GET SLIGHTLY LARGER.

SO IT'S COMMENSURATE WITH THE, THE SIZE OF THE RATE.

AND THEN BILL ASSISTANCE AS A REMINDER AS WELL.

UH, HOPE CENTER DOES DO BILL ASSISTANCE.

UM, OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REFERS THEM.

UM, AND THEN OTHER NONPROFITS ARE UTILIZED AS WELL.

ONE OF OUR BIG, BIG ITEMS FOR, UM, ADMIN AS A WHOLE IS CONSERVATION.

IT'S PRESERVING THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S THE LAKE.

AND THEN ALSO OUR, UM, GARBER WELLINGTON AQUIFER.

SO WE, WE DO, UH, WATER PLANT TOURS, WASTEWATER PLANT TOURS, EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS.

UM, WE ALSO WORK WITH OSU EXTENSION ON, UH, IRRIGATION EDUCATION, TH THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND A LOT OF INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE REGARDING THE PROJECTS.

AND ALSO,

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UH, WATER CONSERVATION.

JUST SOME, UM, BACKGROUND ON RATES.

AGAIN, THE, UH, ACCOUNT GROWTH IS, WE'VE GROWN A LITTLE MORE THAN WE THOUGHT IN THE PAST, BUT THE, UH, BILLING UNITS, THE ACTUAL WATER CONSUMED HAS BEEN LOWER, AND THAT'S LARGE PART TO RESPONSE TO, UH, WATER PRICING.

AND THEN THE INCREASED COST OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUSLY THE DRIVER IN THIS.

IT'S JUST A CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE, SO A BILL COMPARISON FOR THE AVERAGE WATER USER.

UM, AND THE AVERAGE FOR OUR COMPARISON PURPOSES WAS 8,000 GALLONS OF WATER AND 5,000 GALLONS OF WASTEWATER.

AND THIS SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN ACROSS EACH CITY.

AND YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S VARYING, DEPENDING ON THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S HIGHER, UM, MORE OF THE BELL GOES TOWARDS WATER OR TOWARDS SEWER.

AND THAT, UH, DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON WHICH PART OF THE STATE YOU'RE IN.

AND WE DID SOME COMPARISONS OF THE, UH, THE WATER ONLY BILL COMPARISON.

UM, JUST LOOKING AT WHERE WE STACK UP AGAINST OUR, UH, OTHER COMMUNITIES.

AND THEN SAME THING WITH THE WASTEWATER.

SO THE MINIMUM BILL COMPARISON, UM, WAS KEY TO LOOKING AT THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, SOME COMMUNITIES OFFER UP TO 2000 GALLONS OF WATER IN THEIR BASE RATE AND TRYING TO NORMALIZE THAT ACROSS ALL THE COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SHOWING.

AND, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME ARE MUCH LOWER AND THEN OTHERS ARE HIGHER.

SO, AND THEN TAKING THE ADDITIONAL 6,000 GALLONS OF CONSUMPTION AND SHOWING WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT.

SO, OKAY.

LOOKING AT, UH, MINIMUM CHARGES, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT BASE RATE ONLY INCREASES ON THE WATER SIDE.

UM, THE ADVANTAGES BEING THAT THERE'S, UH, MORE STABLE REVENUE SOURCE, LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, SURPRISES AS FAR AS REVENUES ARE CONCERNED.

AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG DEAL WITH THE AMOUNT OF THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE FINANCING.

AND WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN, AND WE COULD GO EVEN FURTHER, UH, DOWN, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME TODAY, BUT, UM, SO THIS IS OUTLINING THE, UH, ALL THE WATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND THEN ALSO WASTEWATER CAPITAL.

THIS JUST SHOWS OUR TEST YEAR.

AND THEN WATER WASTEWATER ACCOUNTS SHOWING THE GROWTH.

WE ASSUME 550 NEW ACCOUNTS PER YEAR.

THAT HAS VARIED OVER, UM, OVER THE PAST DECADE OR TWO.

UH, BUT GENERALLY 550 ACCOUNTS A YEAR IS, UH, WHERE WE'VE, WHERE WE'VE LANDED, GIVE OR TAKE, UH, FOR FORECAST CONSUMPTION.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, IT VARIES AND THAT DEPENDS ON THE RAIN.

IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S THE DRIVER OF, UM, HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE GONNA SELL.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE KEY FACTOR.

SO PART OF OUR LOGAN COUNTY AGREEMENT, UM, THEY CAN BUY UP TO HALF A MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON BUILDING A PUMP STATION TO DO THAT.

SO YOU SEE OUT IN 28 THAT THE, UH, USAGE GOES UP A LITTLE BIT AND THAT THAT'S ACCOUNTING FOR THAT SALE.

SO AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL WATER CONSUMPTION HAS BEEN ON THE DECLINE.

UM, SO WATER CONSERVATION IS WORKING.

UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO IMPACTS TO THE, THE WAY THAT WE PRICE WATER.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE SPENT, UH, SEVEN MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT, UM, DIFFERENT PRICING OPTIONS AND THAT THE BASE RATE WAS A BETTER OPTION FOR THE CERTAINTY.

SO, OKAY.

SO, UM, COST OF SERVICE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ESCALATING IN, IN THE RATE STUDY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COST INCREASE OR PRICING INCREASES FOR EVERYTHING EVERY YEAR, UH, WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT.

THAT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE ALL AT.

UM, BUT THE LARGEST DRIVER BY FAR IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AND, UM, WE CHOSE COUNCIL CHOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MIDPOINT, UM, OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AND THE, THE DRIVER OF THAT IS THE WATER PLAN EXPANSION ITSELF.

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SO THE REASON THAT WE NEED THE RATES IN PLACE IS TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE THE LARGE AMOUNT OF, UH, DEBT FOR THE PROJECT.

AND SO WE SHOW THE MIDPOINT OR UPPER END SCENARIO, AND AGAIN, WE ARE USING THE MIDPOINT SCENARIO ON THE ESTIMATE.

UM, SO THAT WILL, THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU PROBABLY JUNE, JULY, UM, TO LOOK AT AND PHOTO.

SO, UH, THE RECOMMENDED OPTION AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION? UH, I LOST TRACK OF HOW MANY OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT.

I THINK IT WAS EIGHT ROUGHLY.

UM, SO I THINK COUNSEL, UH, DID A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE OPTION WE COULD.

AND, UM, DISCUSSED ALL OF 'EM HERE AT SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE FOR MANY HOURS.

UM, SO ONE OPTION WAS SELECTED, UH, AND GUIDANCE WAS GIVEN AT THE LAST WORKSHOP.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE WITH TONIGHT.

UH, IT'S TWO WATER VOLUME RATE INCREASES.

UM, AND THEN, LET'S SEE, WHAT'S THE, UM, THE RESERVE FUND.

SO WE ARE DRAWING DOWN ABOUT $30 MILLION OF, OF RESERVES, UH, WITH THIS PROGRAM.

SO ONE OTHER THING THAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL WAS, UM, LET'S LOOK AT THE HIGHEST WATER USERS, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HIGHEST USERS OUT THERE AND, AND SEE WHAT THE SENSITIVITY IS TO THAT.

SO WE LOOKED AT IT, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY LARGE AMOUNTS OF OUTDOOR WATER USAGE DURING THE SUMMER TIES UP A LOT OF CAPACITY WITHIN THE WATER PLANT AND WATER SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES.

AND IT'S JUST ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

SO, AND THAT STARTS WITH THE 30,000 GALLONS AND ABOVE.

AND AGAIN, ONLY 3% OF RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ACTUALLY, UH, FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY.

IT'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE FUND BALANCE FORECAST UNDER THIS PLAN, UM, SHOWS A STEADY DECLINE.

UM, SO SOMEWHERE OUT AFTER 2031, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES, VARIABLES, BUT WE WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER EVALUATING AND DOING PERFORMANCE, UH, MEASUREMENTS ON HOW THE RATE PLAN IS WORKING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH EXPECTATIONS.

THIS IS THE, UH, RATE PLAN THAT'S IN THE PACKET.

IT'S NOT ON THIS EXACT SHEET, BUT IT'S THE RATE PLAN.

UM, WASTEWATER RATES HAVE BEEN THE SAME UNDER THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD.

UM, LET'S SEE.

OKAY, SO THE SUMMARY ON THE WATER RATES IS, UH, THE BASE VOLUME, AND THIS IS FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL USER, FIVE EIGHT METER 8,000 GALLONS OF WATER, 5,000 GALLONS OF WASTEWATER.

IT'S A $14 95 CENT INCREASE, AND THEN A $14 AND 97 CENTS INCREASE, UM, NEXT, NEXT YEAR.

BUT NO OTHER, UM, CHARGES ARE ANTICIPATED TO CHANGE UNDER THIS RATE PLAN SCENARIO.

SO NO, NO VOLUME INCREASES.

AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE WASTEWATER IS DOM AFTER THAT.

SO ON THE MIDDLE, UM, I GUESS THE SECOND ROW DOWN SHOWS THE, THE IMPACT OF THE INCREASES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER ON THE AVERAGE WATER USER.

SO FIRST TWO YEARS, UM, $18 AND 6 CENTS, $18 AND 27 CENTS, AND THEN THREE 50.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, VERY NOMINAL AFTER THAT POINT, AND I'M GONNA LEAVE IT THERE AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS.

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THANK YOU, MR. ING.

I, UH, I WANTED TO ASK YOU AND MAYBE MR. BRIAN OR THE CITY MANAGER, SOMEBODY, UM, THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT BY THE CITY TO, TO IMPROVE AND MODERNIZE OUR WATER SYSTEM.

UH, WE'VE GOTTA DO THIS IN ORDER TO STOP PAYING THE ONE, $1.5 MILLION A YEAR TO OKLAHOMA CITY JUST TO RESERVE WATER.

AND THEN THE COST, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, WE GOTTA GET, WE GOTTA GET RID OF THAT.

UH, I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS ASK, UH, OR, OR TELL ME THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT THIS MIGHT MAKE US A TARGET IF ONCE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN PLACE OR ONGOING MIGHT MAKE US A TARGET FOR, UH, MEGA INDUSTRIAL USERS LIKE A DATA CENTER.

UH, CAN SOMEBODY ADDRESS THAT FOR ME? I, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, UM, A FAIR CONCERN THAT, UM, THE, UH, IN PARTICULAR YOU MENTIONED DATA CENTERS, THEY'RE, UH, THEY REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT VOLUME OF WATER.

AND I THINK KNOWING ABOUT, UH, OUR SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AND OUR UPGRADES, I THINK WOULD PROBABLY RAISE, UH, OUR PROFILE A LITTLE BIT WITH THOSE, UH, AS POTENTIAL USERS.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY FAIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO PREVENT A LARGE DATA CENTER FROM BUILDING IN EDMOND? I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DATA CENTER SPECIFICALLY.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, ANY KIND OF A, UH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE LAND USE APPLICATION IS GONNA BE GOVERNED BY ZONING ORDINANCE, OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, ET CETERA.

SO THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND, AND PRESUMABLY WE COULD EVEN, WE COULD, UH, TAILOR THAT A LITTLE BIT IF WE NEEDED TO.

MR. BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD OFFER ON, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO DATA CENTERS, THE CURRENT ZONING CODE DOESN'T HAVE THAT AS A USE.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD EVEN ADDRESS AN APPLICATION AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DETAILED CONVERSATION ABOUT.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO ONE, I GUESS HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND A STUDY OF THESE DATA CENTERS, CENTERS ON DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND THE PROPER STANDARDS? UH, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT 'EM, I DON'T WANT 'EM IN THE CITY LIMITS.

I DON'T WANT 'EM COMING HERE, BUT I'D LIKE, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO HAVE A MORATORIUM ON ANY ON THIS PROCESS? WHAT CAN WE DO? THE CITY ATTORNEY'S NODDING YES.

CITY MANAGER'S NODDING YES, MR. BRIAN'S EVEN NODDING YES.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER IF WE WOULD, IF THE COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT THAT AND, UH, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OUR CITY OUT TO AVOID SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THANK YOU.

UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY INFORMS ME, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT AN ITEM LIKE THAT ON THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE'S AGENDA.

YES, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT I SUPPORT STAFF LOOKING INTO THAT AND, UM, JUST WANNA BE APPROPRIATELY PROTECTIVE OF OUR RESOURCES AND OUR CITIZENS.

SO THANK YOU.

INCLUDE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

COUPLE THINGS.

I, I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON THE RATE AND RATE STUDY FIRST, BUT, AND THINK I, BUT I WANT TO JUMP INTO TO THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL, IF NOT A LOT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DATA CENTER.

I, I, I, I APPRECIATE CHRIS AND YOU THIS WHOLE AND PUBLIC WORKS AND SAT IN ON ONE OF THOSE AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS, EIGHT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AS YOU SAID.

I WAS LOOKING FOR NUMBER NINE THAT HAD A DECREASE, BUT WE COULDN'T FIND IT.

UM, SO I DO THINK, I, I DO THINK THE WAY WE'RE GOING ABOUT THIS WITH, WITH THE BIGGEST PART OF IT IN THE BASE RATE, BETTER OR MORE CLOSELY ASSURES THAT WE HIT A TARGET THAT WE'VE ALREADY KNOWN FROM A COST FACTOR.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PAINFUL, BUT WE, WE, WE ARE ASSURED THAT WE GET THERE AND WE TALKED A LONG TIME WITH THE CONSULTANT ABOUT, AND YOU'VE ALREADY NOTED IN HERE, UM, O AND M THINGS GO UP THREE TO 5%.

THAT DOESN'T

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MATERIALS AND THE, AND THE COST, WHAT I CALL IN A RATE MAKING PROCESS IS A DEVELOPMENT FACTOR OR A TREND FACTOR.

AND IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S NOT ALL SCIENCE AS WE TALKED ABOUT.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ART TO THAT AND, AND, AND WE'RE GONNA MISS HIGH OR LOW A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I LOVE THE FACT THAT, THAT YOU'VE SET ASIDE BUDGET EVERY YEAR.

WE'RE GONNA REEXAMINE THIS IN A RATE STUDY AND LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TARGET.

I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE ARTICLE.

YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE OWRB SAID, WE WILL NOT IN THE FUTURE FUND LOANS TO MUNICIPALITIES WHO ARE NOT AT LEAST TRYING TO ACHIEVE RATE ADEQUACY.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART.

WE CAN DEMONSTRATE.

WE ARE ATTEMPTING, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF GRAVITY TO REACH THAT, WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE AT RATE ADEQUACY.

SO, SO THE RATE MAKING PROCESS IS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRICKY.

UH, I THINK OUR CONSULTANT HAS A, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN IT.

YOU DO AS WELL.

AND SO I I, I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE.

IT'S NOT EASY.

NOBODY WANTS A RATE INCREASE OF ANYTHING.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S CAR INSURANCE, HOME INSURANCE OR WATER RATES, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT.

IT'S AN EXHAUSTIBLE RESOURCE.

AND, UM, I THINK TIED TO THAT AND TO COUNCILMAN MOORE'S COMMENTS ON DATA CENTERS, I THINK, I THINK IT'S CRITICAL.

I ALSO THINK WE'RE OVERDUE AS A CITY GOVERNMENT TO DEVELOP EXPERTISE FROM WITHIN THE CITY WITHIN WATER ENGINEERING.

MAYBE WILL WOULD BE A GREAT ONE, MR. BRIAN, WITHIN PLANNING.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IF IT IS, I'D LIKE TO SEE US, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CALL IT IN EDMOND, UH, RESTRICTED USE, SPECIAL USE WITHIN THE ZONING THAT SETS ASIDE, MAKES IT MUCH, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT, MUCH MORE QUALIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS TO HIT THAT AREA.

BUT WE'VE GOTTA MAKE THESE DECISIONS ABOUT DATA CENTERS, NOT OUTTA FEAR, BUT OUTTA INFORMATION AND EXPERTISE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.

AND SO I, I'D LOVE, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MOORE, WE NEED A MORATORIUM, BUT PART OF THAT MORATORIUM, I THINK IS WE NEED TO STUDY AND MAKE SURE WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE A HYPERSCALER FROM AN MDC.

WHAT'S AN MDC? IT'S A MICRO DATA CENTER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY FOLKS, IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, EVERY, MOST EVERY BUSINESS THAT'S 350 TO 500 EMPLOYEES IS GOING TO WANT TO BE CLOSE TO THEIR DATA.

I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE ALL SCARED TO DEATH ABOUT THE CLOUD, AND THIS ISN'T GONNA REPLACE THE CLOUD, BUT IT'S GONNA AUGMENT WHY, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE CLOSE TO THEIR DATA TO MAINTAIN IT, TO CORRECT CYBER PROBLEMS, CYBER RISK EXPOSURES, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE TO CALIFORNIA TO DO SO TO TINKER WITH THEIR SYSTEM.

SO THESE THINGS AREN'T GONNA GO AWAY.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE A HYPERSCALER GOOGLE META AI DATA CENTER FROM A 10 GIGABIT DATA CENTER, WHICH HAS A FOOTPRINT OF ABOUT 30 TO 40,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S ROUGHLY TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS IN LIKE FISHER HALL, TOTALLY MAINTAINABLE IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT SPOT.

AND, AND, AND THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS.

ALL OF THESE ARE NO LONGER HUGE WATER CONSUMPTION MONSTERS.

I MEAN, THERE'S IMMERSION COOLING, THERE'S, UM, THERE'S GREEN OR SUSTAINABLE DESIGNS THAT, THAT, THAT USE WASTEWATER.

UM, THERE'S CLOSED LOOP AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

CLOSED LOOP LIQUID SYSTEMS THAT MIX GLYCOL WITH WATER.

AND SO THAT IT'S A 70% REDUCTION.

AND, AND, AND I'M, I'M SAYING THIS JUST BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO PROTECT EDMOND, BUT LET'S DO SO FROM A BASE OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND NOT PUT OURSELVES IN A BOX, THROW AWAY THE KEY WHERE, WHERE WE'VE LOCKED OURSELF OUT OF EVEN BEING CONSIDER THING, CONSIDERING THINGS.

SO I, I AGREE.

I THINK THE FIRST 90 DAYS SHOULD BE AN INFORMATION GATHERING, STUDYING DEVELOPMENT OF EXPERTISE WITHIN THE CITY.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD ASK CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO DO THAT, TO DESIGNATE POINT OUT SOME PEOPLE.

'CAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH WAY AFTER THIS.

COUNCIL'S GONE.

THIS IS NOT GONNA GO AWAY.

IT'S, IT'S HERE TO STAY BECAUSE IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO BUSINESSES AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO DO IT.

I, I DON'T WANT 'EM EITHER.

BUT WHEN I SAY I DON'T WANT THEM, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HYPERSCALER, HUGE MEGA WATER GUZZLING.

AND,

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AND THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER, FROM OTHER DATA.

UH, MICRO DATA CENTERS.

HECK, THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS A MICRO, MICRO DATA CENTER.

WE HAVE RACKS OF SERVERS AND, AND IT'S JUST SO WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE TO MAKE, BECAUSE THIS IS POLICY AND WE WANNA MAKE POLICY FROM INFORMED KNOWLEDGE, NOT POLICY, BECAUSE WE'RE FEARFUL OF GOOGLE AND AI PUTTING IN A DATA CENTER.

NOBODY WANTS THAT.

THAT'S AN OBVIOUS ONE.

BUT WHAT, WHAT WOULD WORK OR MAYBE WORK, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING THIS AS AN EXPERT.

I'M ASKING CITY GOVERNMENT, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO DEVELOP THAT EXPERTISE.

JUST A QUICK COMMENT, I WON'T DUPLICATE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS.

UM, I'M THE ENGINEER ON IN THE GROUP UP HERE IN VERY DETAIL ORIENTED, AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED.

I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW, AND THIS IS WHAT I TOLD MY NEIGHBORS AND MY FAMILY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE DUG REAL REALLY DEEPLY INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS WATER STUDY.

MANY, MANY HOURS, MANY, MANY OPTIONS.

AND, UM, IT IS, IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LOVE DOING THIS, BUT WE WOULDN'T ASK PEOPLE TO DO THIS IF WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, AND IF WE WEREN'T TRYING TO MAKE REALLY RESPONSIBLE DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

UM, SO JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT.

AND, UM, AND THEN WE'LL WORK TO MANAGE THIS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THROUGH, UM, ANNUAL REVIEWS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THE SMARTEST DECISIONS FOR OUR PEOPLE AND FOR OUR KIDS AND FOR OUR GRANDKIDS WHEN IT COMES TO WATER.

UM, SO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND THE PRESS ISN'T ALWAYS HERE, BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE FOR THIS TODAY.

BUT, UM, AS WE MOVE FROM A PURELY CONSUMPTION MODEL TO A MORE SUBSCRIPTION BASED, I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A REDUCTION IN RATES OR, UM, INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT CONSERVATION FOR THE EARTH, BUT ALSO FOR THEIR BILLS.

SO I JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF THOSE TWO THINGS, A REDUCTION IN RATES AND THEN INCENTIVIZING CONSERVATION.

UM, SO I, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT AT SOME POINT.

MR. KNIFING, YOUR ABILITY TO BRING ME TO WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE I THINK WAS TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AGO HAS BEEN PRETTY AMAZING.

UM, FOR ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT, WHAT WAS IT, OPTION THREE, THREE AND A HALF? I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER.

BUT, UM, BY THE TIME WE GOT THROUGH THIS LAST TIME AND WE WERE LOOKING AT MAKING THE ADJUSTMENT TO THE BASE OVER TWO YEARS AND THE LOGIC THAT IT HAS FOR LARGE FAMILIES, AND WHEN WE SAY LARGE FAMILIES, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LOWER INCOME AS WELL AS HIGHER INCOME.

IT'S ALL SPREAD ACROSS THE BOARD.

BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS, YEAH, IT'S A HIT ON OUR MONTHLY BILL.

UM, BUT I THINK WHAT WOUND UP BEING WAS LIKE 13, 18%, UM, IN YEAR ONE AND A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT IN YEAR TWO.

I BELIEVE THAT'S A LOT BETTER DEAL THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE USING EIGHT TO 10,000 GALLONS A MONTH.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY I THINK TURNED ME AROUND IS THE FACT THAT THE VOLUME RATE PIECE FOR HIGHER VOLUME, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES, MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

UM, AND THIS SOLUTION, I THINK WINDS UP BEING PROBABLY THE BEST WE CAN DO.

UM, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE LIKES THE IDEA OF HAVING TO RAISE RATES, BUT THE PATH THAT WE'VE BEEN ON, I THINK HAS REALLY GIVEN US A GOOD STABLE FOUNDATION AND A PLACE TO START.

THE ONE THING I WANNA MAKE SURE OF IS, UM, A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WORKED FOR THE WATER TRUST IN OKLAHOMA CITY LAST WEEK.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISION TO CHANGE OUR RATES THAT OKLAHOMA CITY KNOWS.

AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL PL PART OF EDMUND.

I THINK IT'S MAYBE EVEN JUST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ACTUALLY GETS THEIR WATER FROM OKLAHOMA CITY, BUT THEY BILL IT AT OUR RATES AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT FOR 3, 4, 5 MONTHS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MONITOR OUR WEBSITE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET CONNECTED, UM, WITH THE PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

I'VE GOT A NAME I CAN GIVE YOU SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION, THAT WE'VE GOT A WAY TO, TO COMMUNICATE

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SO THAT IT'S APPLIED CORRECTLY.

UM, BEYOND THAT, UM, I THINK I'M WHERE YES, I HAVE ONE OTHER, I HAVE ONE OTHER THING, MR. MAYOR.

UH, SORRY.

I, UH, AND I WOULD LIKE, UH, WHEN WE, AFTER WE TAKE ACTION ON THIS, AND, UH, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, I'D LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE TO TAKE A LOOK AT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON WHAT WE MIGHT DO ABOUT BUILDING OUT, UH, DEAL WITH LOGAN COUNTY, HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT LOGAN COUNTY WATER, UH, RURAL WATER, HAVE ALL THOSE CHATS, AND IF WE CAN ENGAGE PUBLIC WORKS AND WATER TO HAVE THAT CHAT, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.

AND ONE LAST THING, UH, I WANNA THANK CINDY HOLMAN.

MS. HOLMAN, UH, I KNOW NO COUNCILMAN WATERSON APPRECIATES HER EFFORTS ON THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.

SHE WAS A GREAT HELP TO BOTH OF US.

AND, UH, THANK YOU.

COULD WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT WE FINALLY SETTLED IN ON? UM, YES.

THE, JUST, JUST GO BACK AND SHOW US THAT ONE SLIDE THAT SHOWS US WHAT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE THAT SHOWS IT'S A 14, $14 95 CENT INCREASE FOR WATER IN 26, 27, AND 1497.

SO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN, IN 27, 28 FISCAL YEAR.

CORRECT.

AND THEN, UM, SO WE'RE SHOWING WHAT OUR WA AND THEN WITH OUR WASTEWATER ADJUSTMENT, WE'RE SHOWING WHAT THE CHANGE IS, $18 AND 6 CENTS TOTAL.

14 0 2 5 EAST, UH, NORTHEASTERN AVENUE, UH, IN EDMOND.

TOTAL.

AND THEN 1827.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR RATE PAYERS HERE IN EDMOND, IS WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO THEIR, TO THEIR BILLS, TO THE UTILITY BILLS, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT INSTEAD OF US SITTING UP HERE TALKING ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS REPORTING INTO THE PLANT AND THE FACT THAT IF WE DON'T CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE RESERVE, BASICALLY AN INSURANCE PREMIUM TO OKLAHOMA CITY IN CASE WE NEED THEIR WATER, IT'S VERY QUICKLY GONNA PASS $2 MILLION A YEAR FOR US, IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING THEM.

AND IF THEY GO AHEAD AND BUILD THEIR PIPELINE FROM SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA BACK UP TO OKLAHOMA CITY, UM, THAT NUMBER COULD JUMP EVEN HIGHER IF SOME OF THE RUMORS THAT WE'VE HEARD ARE TRUE, WHICH IS THEY'RE GONNA PUSH THEIR WHOLESALE RATES EVEN HIGHER.

SO I, I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO GET OFF OF THAT DEPENDENT SO WE CAN START SAVING THAT MONEY ON THE BACK END.

YEAH, JUST, JUST FOR REFERENCE AND, UM, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE WAY TOO LONG.

THE, THE, WE WERE PAYING ABOUT 80,000 A YEAR WHEN I STARTED HERE FOR WATER THAT WE DIDN'T USE, AND IT'S OVER A MILLION FOR THAT SAME WATER, SO THAT WE STILL DON'T USE.

UM, I I DO, IF IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M REPEATING MYSELF, JUST 'CAUSE I'M GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF, , BUT SOMETHING WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS REMOVING FROM PURELY CONSUMPTION TO SUBSCRIPTION, AND THAT IS FOR SUSTAINABILITY.

UM, AS WE KNOW IN OKLAHOMA, THE WEATHER CAN BE EXTREMELY DRY.

SOMETIMES IT'S EXTREMELY WET, AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS A CRYSTAL BALL.

AND SO WE NEED TO BE LESS RELIANT ON THE FLUCTUATIONS OF WATER, UM, THAT FALLS FROM THE SKY AND ALSO GROUNDWATER.

UM, IT'S A VERY, IT'S AN IMPORTANT RE RESOURCE THAT'S NOT JUST OUR CITY WHO'S TALKING ABOUT THIS AND CITIES WHO AREN'T ADDRESSING IT.

IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO I STILL, I WANNA KEEP HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

I KNOW WE'LL HAVE MORE DATA.

I KNOW WE'LL HAVE MORE, UM, TO LOOK AT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DECISION.

UM, AND I, I WANNA TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY LOWERING RATES AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT INCENTIVIZING CONSERVATION.

SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA SET IT AND FORGET IT.

THIS IS STILL ONGOING.

SO YEAH.

AND THAT THIS'LL BE A NEVER ENDING DISCUSSION AS FAR AS, UH, PRICING.

AND TO YOUR POINT, THE VOLUME METRIC IS THE VOLUME METRIC CHARGES ARE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DECREASING.

UM, YEAH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM FIVE C? MAYOR? OH, PUBLIC.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN ASKED THE PUBLIC TO COME UP YET, HAVE WE? WOW.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TONIGHT.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

UH, ORLANDO BUSH, A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, UH,

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UH, I JUST FOR CLARITY, UH, DID I HEAR US TALK ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS AND SAYING NOT WANTING THEM TO COME TO EDMOND? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? UH, COUNCILMAN MOORE.

WELL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

I SAID I DON'T WANT WATER.

UH, WITH RESPECT TO WATER AND OKLAHOMA CITY PROVIDING WATER FOR EDMOND, IS THERE A CONTINGENCY PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE THOUGHT OF OR EVEN LOOKED AT IMPACT STUDY? IF OKLAHOMA CITY SHOULD DERIVE 1, 2, 3, OR SIX DATA CENTERS, WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO TO THE WATER RESTRICTION FOR EDMOND? UH, HAS THAT BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? WELL, IN, IN THEORY, IT WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON US TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A RESERVE THAT WE PAY THEM AND WE DON'T USE IT.

WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY WATER FROM OKLAHOMA CITY OTHER THAN WHERE THEY'RE SUPPLYING WATER TO SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND THEY CHARGE THEM OUR RATES.

AND, UH, LAST QUESTION IS THAT IF IN FACT WE SHARE WATER RESOURCES WITH OKLAHOMA CITY AND THEY DO LOOK AT HAVING DATA CENTERS, THE, UH, FOREVER CHEMICALS THAT ARE PUT OFF BY THE DATA CENTER THAT GETS INTO THE WATER PROCESSING SYSTEM, HAS ANYONE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT AND POSSIBLY COULD LOOK AT THE IMPACT TO EDMOND FOR THAT OTHER, ONCE AGAIN, OTHER THAN THAT SMALL ONE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY'RE PROVIDING WATER TO US, UNLESS WE BUY WATER FROM THEM, THERE IS NO IMPACT.

ANYONE ELSE? UH, MY NAME'S CHARLES MOLES.

I GO BY CHIP AND I, I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC PRESENTATION.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE, AND THE WATER RESOURCES.

WE HAVE 89 SQUARE MILES.

WHERE DOES ALL OF OUR WATER COME FROM? UH, THIS, THIS PROCESS, I WORKED IN A REFINERY FOR 13 YEARS, AND WE PROCESSED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BARRELS OF OIL EVERY DAY.

AND OUR BIG CONCERN WAS WHERE WERE WE GONNA GET OIL TO PROCESS? WE WERE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR OIL TO PROCESS, AND I WANNA KNOW, ARE WE BUILDING A BIG WATER PLANT AND HAVE WE ALSO LINED UP THE WATER THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PROCESS THROUGH THAT PLANT? YOU KNOW, MR. IAN, COME BACK UP HERE AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YOU'RE THE EXPERT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE, WHERE DO WE GET OUR WATER? THE MAJORITY OF IT IS GONNA BE PRODUCED FROM THE LAKE, ARCADIA LAKE, UM, NOT A SHARED RESOURCE.

EDMOND OWNS EVERY BIT OF THE WATER IN ARCADIA LAKE.

UM, SO WHATEVER COMES INTO IT, WE'VE DONE YIELD STUDIES AND, UM, KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A SUSTAINABLE YIELD ON THE LAKE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BUILDING TO LONG TERM AND SHORT TERM.

AND THEN ALSO THE GARBER WELLINGTON AQUIFER.

UM, WE HAVE WELLS THAT ARE BETWEEN SIX, WELL, ABOUT 200 TO 600 FEET DEEP.

AND WE CAN PULL WATER OUT OF THOSE, THOSE LONG TERM ARE GONNA BE MORE OF A DROUGHT PROOF WATER SUPPLY.

WE WANT TO USE A SUSTAINABLE WATER SUPPLY, WHICH IS RAIN FALLING OUT THE OUT OF THE SKY.

UM, THE AQUIFER DOESN'T RECHARGE OVERNIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MANAGE THAT RESOURCE AND MAKE SURE IT'S THERE FOR THE FUTURE.

HOW MANY WELLS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE? 62.

YEP.

ANYONE ELSE? JEFF STOKES, UH, 31 40 BIRCHWOOD CIRCLE.

UH, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR NET REVENUES HERE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE COSTING MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN, BUT YET IN 29 IT GETS PRETTY LOW, BUT THEN IT GOES BACK UP.

IS THAT A CONCERN? ESPECIALLY WITH OUR DAYS OF FUNDS BALANCE SIGNIFICANTLY BASICALLY DROPPING IN HALF OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, MR. ING, COME BACK UP HERE.

SO THE, THE DAYS OF FUND BALANCE IS REALLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

AND 180 DAYS BEING THE TARGET, HAVING A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY WITH IT.

UH, WE'VE PLANNED ON USING THE RESERVE DRAW DOWN, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA DO THE, THE CHECK IN EACH YEAR TO SEE HOW WE'RE PERFORMING.

SO WE DIDN'T TAKE THE VERY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH AND RAISE RATES EVEN FURTHER.

WE WANTED TO HIT A KIND OF SWEET SPOT WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOVERING REVENUES, BUT NOT TOO MUCH, BUT THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION EACH YEAR TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ON TRACK TO MAINTAIN A TARGET.

SO, RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? EXCUSE ME.

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THEY'RE OKLAHOMA CITY'S WATER.

MY NAME IS TODD OING 1 0 4 HANOVER DRIVE.

EDMOND, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, THIS IS, UH, PROBABLY MORE OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION, BUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE WATER THAT DRAINS INTO LAKE ARCADIA IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF EDMOND? AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL FEEDER STREAMS THAT COME INTO LAKE ARCADIA THAT PROBABLY ARE SIGNIFICANT WATER SUPPLIES, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY COMING THROUGH OKLAHOMA CITY.

AND SHOULD THAT WATER BE IDENTIFIED BY OKLAHOMA CITY AS, HEY, WE OUGHT TO BUILD A RESERVOIR TO CATCH THIS WATER THAT'S GOING DOWN SPRING CREEK DRY, UH, LANE, OR THE ONE THAT'S TO THE SOUTH.

UH, HOW SECURE IS OUR RELIANCE UPON THIS WATERSHED THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF AREA THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.

WHAT PERCENTAGE IS OUTSIDE THE CITY OF EDMOND? ALL RIGHT, SO, UM, SINCE WE DO HAVE RIGHTS TO ALL THE WATER THAT COMES INTO IT, NOBODY LIKE OKLAHOMA CITY IS ALLOWED TO IMPOUND THE WATER BEFORE IT GETS TO US.

THAT'S HOW THE YIELD WORKS.

SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR WATERSHED IS OUTSIDE OF OKLAHOMA, UH, OUTSIDE OF EDMOND, AND STARTS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE PENN SQUARE MALL AREA AND PRIMARILY URBAN RUNOFF.

SO, UM, FORTUNATELY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE MORE PAVING THAT GOES ON UP THE WATERSHED, THE MORE THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT TO THE LAKE.

SO IT ONLY INCREASES OUR WATER VOLUME OVER TIME.

SO, UH, MOST OF IT DOES COME FROM THE DEEP FORK RIVER, WHICH IS RUNNING TOWARDS PENN SQUARE MALL, UH, NORTH OF DOWNTOWN.

AND THEN THE REST IS IN EDMOND, THE SPRING CREEK BASIN THAT RUNS IT BACK UP TOWARDS UCO.

SO, ANYONE ELSE? ORLANDO BUSH AGAIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR IT SEEMS LIKE ARCADIA LAKE IS A STRATEGIC STRATEGIC WATER POINT FOR EDMOND.

UH, ARE YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE WATER WARD THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN COLORADO AND ARIZONA RIGHT NOW? I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

SO MY, MY THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES IS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANNUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OKLAHOMA CITY ABOUT THE RIGHTS TO NATURAL WATERWAYS, THEY COULD DO SOMETHING THAT JUST SAYS, WELL, WE ARE NOT EVEN GONNA INCLUDE THOSE GUYS.

GO UPSTREAM, BLOCK OFF THIS, BLOCK OFF THAT.

SO HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE WITH OUR TIES WITH OKLAHOMA CITY AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO OUR WATER? SO THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA DICTATES WATER LAW, UM, AND THAT IS, UH, THE OKLAHOMA WATER RESOURCES BOARD ISSUES PERMITS.

IF SOMEBODY WERE TO DO SOMETHING THROUGH OUR WATER SUPPLY, THEN WE'D HAVE TO DO SOMETHING APPROPRIATE THROUGH LEGAL.

UM, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN .

UM, BUT AS OKLAHOMA CITY IS WELL AWARE, JUST LIKE WE ARE WITH THEIR WATER SUPPLY, UM, IT'S NOT, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS ON STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE.

THAT'S NOT GONNA STOP A LANDOWNER FROM DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T DO.

BUT, UM, A CITY THE SIZE OF OKLAHOMA CITY KNOWS AS WELL AS WE DO THAT.

UM, WHO OWNS WHAT WATER? ANYONE ELSE? YES.

TODD ING.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE LARGEST OWNER OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF EDMOND IS A US ARMY, I MEAN, CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

UH, ARE WE DOING, UH, DOES THE CITY OF EDMOND HAVE, UH, IN PLACE A PLAN TO TRY AND DEVELOP THE USE OF GRAY WATER? I MEAN, THERE'S A CERTAIN, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WATER AND, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY NOT TO WASTE IT, AS OPPOSED TO SO CONCERNING LONG-TERM WATER SUPPLY.

SO EDMOND EDMOND HAS A SUSTAINABLE WATER SUPPLY, AND WE'VE PLANNED FOR IT WITH OUR WASTEWATER EXPANSION, UM, THAT WRAPPED UP.

AND, UM, SO FUTURE INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE, BASICALLY TREATING WITH REVERSE OSMOSIS POTENTIALLY, AND PUTTING THAT BACK INTO LAKE, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, RIGHT NOW THE LAKE STAYS FULL, EVEN DURING THE MIDDLE OF A DROUGHT.

WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE WITH OUR WATER SUPPLY.

UH, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, 20, 30, 50 YEAR PROBLEM.

UM, BUT BEING PLANNED FOR WITH ALL OF OUR, UH, WATER PLANNING CURRENTLY.

AND THAT IS IN OUR 2013 WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN.

SO,

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IT COVERS LAKE ARCADIA.

THIS WAS A FEDERAL PROJECT, PART OF A FLOOD CONTROL.

UH, WE WERE USING IT FOR WATER HERE, BUT TO AVOID FLOODING DOWNSTREAM, UH, IN CHANDLER, OKLAHOMA, TO BE PERFECTLY EXON HONEST, CARL RIMAN WAS OUR MAYOR THEN.

HE GREW UP IN CHANDLER.

HE SAW THE FLOODING IN CANTON, AND HE SAW THE NEED FOR WATER IN EDMOND.

AND HE WAS ABLE, DURING HIS EIGHT YEARS AS MAYOR, TO GET A FEDERAL PROJECT THROUGH TO APPROVE THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

UH, WE STARTED OFF WITH LIMITS OF USING ONLY, UH, 10 MILLION GALLONS, UH, A DAY, I GUESS.

BUT WE BUMPED IT UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO $20 MILLION, 20 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

AND NOW WE'RE TARGETING FOR 30,000, 30 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

THAT'S OUR GOAL FROM THIS.

AND WE ARE USING GRAY WATER.

UH, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART ABOUT THIS THING IS THAT IT IS, UH, WHEN WE DO THINGS AT LAKE ARCADIA, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COURSE PERMISSION.

AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TO COOPERATE WITH US, AND, BUT THEY ARE, I THINK, THE LARGEST LANDOWNER IN THE CITY OF EDMONTON.

ANYONE ELSE? NOW I CAN ASK COUNSEL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO HERE? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE ME FOR A MOTION? I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO RECESS THE, WHAT ARE WE IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL 7:00 PM PLEASE? I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND AND A SECOND.

WE'RE AT RECESS.

PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 8 5, AMENDING CHAPTER 2.500 OF THE EDMOND MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING THE EDMOND BICYCLE COMMITTEE BY AMENDING SECTION 2.50 0.010 ESTABLISHED COMPOSITION, NOMINATION, APPOINTMENT TERMS AND ORGANIZATION PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

ITEM FIVE D,

[D. Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4085 Amending Chapter 2.500 of the Edmond Municipal Code Regarding the Edmond Bicycle Committee by Amending Section 2.500.010 Established, Composition, Nomination, Appointment, Terms, and Organization; Providing for Repealer and Severability; And Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]

MR. BRIAN? YES, SIR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

KEN BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

UH, THE EDMOND BICYCLE COMMITTEE IS STAFFED OUT OF, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, I'M HERE TO SHARE A VERY, VERY SHORT SUMMARY OF, OF THE ORDINANCE CHANGE IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, IT, I BELIEVE IT'S TO ADD AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE BIKE COMMITTEE THAT IS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A REQUEST FROM THE, THE BIKE COMMITTEE.

WE WORKED WITH THEM, UM, ON THAT AMENDMENT ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL STAFF OFFICE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND AT THEIR MOST RECENT BIKE COMMITTEE, UH, MEETING, THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.

HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I BELIEVE OUR NEWEST MEMBER OF THE BIKE COMMITTEE IS IN, IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM AS WELL.

IS HE STILL IN THE AUDIENCE? OH, .

HE'S BACK THERE SHAKING HIS HEAD.

NO, HE DOESN'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING.

WE'LL SEE WHEN WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

, MR. MOORE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? THOUGHTS? I I SIMPLY WANT TO THANK MR. BRIAN AND HIS TEAM FOR ACCOMMODATING THE BICYCLE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS UP HERE? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? WELL, MAYOR DAVIS DOESN'T WANNA SAY A WORD ON THIS ONE.

ALRIGHT, WHAT DO YOU ALL LIKE TO DO? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. MAYOR.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

E CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION FROM THE FIRE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET FOR MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT AND THE FIRE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET FOR LIFE SAVINGS SUPPLIES $123,561 AND 10 CENTS.

5 0 5

[E. Consideration of Approval of a Budget Amendment for a Transfer of Appropriation from the Fire Public Safety Budget for Miscellaneous Equipment to the Fire Public Safety Budget for Lifesaving Supplies; $123,561.10. (Citywide)]

CHIEF MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M TERRY ESRY.

I'M YOUR FIRE CHIEF.

UH, THIS ITEM WILL ENABLE US TO PURCHASE CONVERSION KITS FOR OUR CURRENT SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS, AIR PACKS THAT WILL BRING THEM INTO, UM, UP TO THE CURRENT STANDARD NFPA EXCHANGER STANDARD THIS LAST YEAR.

AND ULTIMATELY, IT WILL ALSO EXTEND THE

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LIFE BY UP TO FOUR YEARS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, CHIEF DOES, DOES THIS HAVE ANY ADVAN ADVANTAGE BY BUYING NOW, AVOIDING ADDITIONAL PRICING INCREASES DOWN THE ROAD? IT DOES.

IN FACT, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH THE VENDORS MAY 1ST, THE PRICE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO UP 6%, BUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM BEFORE THAT, THAT, UH, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET US IN ON THE PRE 6%, THE PRICE INCREASE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT.

ANY, ANY COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT THIS SOLVES? IT DOES, UH, THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARD ON AIR PACKS.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A FUNCTION IN THERE THAT ALLOWS FOR FIREFIGHTERS TO HOOK INTO ONE ANOTHER FOR RESCUE SITUATIONS OR CURRENT PACKS.

DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT PROPERLY.

THIS WOULD MAKE THAT COMPLIANT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO, COUNSEL? MOVE APPROVAL.

MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

RECESS OF EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALLED ORDER REPUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.

FIVE ZERO ITEM SIX,

[6. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]

CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVE.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST TO VOTE.

WE'RE NOW IN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY

[A. Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 02-26 Fixing Water and Wastewater Rates for Services Inside and Wholesale Rates Outside the City Limits of the City of Edmond, Oklahoma; And Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]

MEETING.

ITEM SEVEN A IS PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER ZERO TWO DASH 26, FIXING WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES FOR SERVICES INSIDE AND WHOLESALE RATES OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS TO THE CITY OF EDMUND, OKLAHOMA, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, WHICH IS THE COMPANION ITEM TO WHAT WE JUST PASSED, WHAT, 15 MINUTES AGO, MR. ING? DON'T TELL ME YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN, .

AND, AND CAN WE, WE WILL HAVE TO ASK THOUGH IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS .

THANK YOU FOR NOT STANDING UP, JEFF.

ALL RIGHT.

I SEE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN, EIGHT, MAYOR, SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST TO VOTE.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM EIGHT, PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY, GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE THREE ITEMS AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED IF I WOULD PULL ITEM EIGHT C FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[8. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

ANYONE ELSE? THEN WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON ITEM EIGHT A AND EIGHT B? MOTION TO APPROVE EIGHT A AND B.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[A. Consideration of Public Works Authority General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]

NINE, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.

DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ITEMS NINE A IS PULLING UP EIGHT C FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH MKEC ENGINEERING INC FOR ON-CALL HYDRO HYDROLOGIC AND HYDRAULIC ENGINEERING SERVICES NOT TO EXCEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK.

I'M LOOKING FOR, UH, FOR STEVE.

YEAH, SO GO AHEAD.

B IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER ZERO THREE

IT, IT LOOKS LIKE MR. S IS COMING FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT.

LIKE AN EXTRA HARD QUESTION.

RANDY IN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OUR CITY ENGINEERS OUT SICK TODAY.

SO I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER A QUESTION, BUT IT WILL BE MADE UP.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.

, JUST TELL ME IF YOU MAKE IT UP.

UH, IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

MY ONLY QUESTION WAS ARE WE REALLY GONNA SPEND THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? IT'S ABOUT SIX WEEKS.

IF YOU DON'T DUNNO, YOU CAN, WE CAN TALK OFF OR YOU CAN SEND US AN ANSWER LATER.

I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITE ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIND OR WHAT, SO I'LL GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

OKAY? THANKS.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? UH, I THINK WE CAN TAKE THAT ANSWER.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA HOLD IT FOR THAT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

UM, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE C SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[B. Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 03-26 Approving and Adopting an Open Records Policy and Fee Schedule to Supersede the Open Records Policy and Fee Schedule Adopted May 8, 2023; Directing the City Clerk to File, Post, and Distribute; And Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]

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DASH 26 APPROVING AND ADOPTING AN OPEN RECORDS POLICY AND FEE SCHEDULE TO SUPERSEDE THE OPEN RECORDS POLICY AND FEE SCHEDULE, ADOPTED MAY 8TH, 2023, DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO FILE, POST, AND DISTRIBUTE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, COREY ACTON, COLEY, CITY CLERK, THANK YOU, UH, FOR LETTING ME, UH, ADDRESS THIS ISSUE FROM THE DAIS.

I MIGHT TRY TO HURT THE, THE DUST, BUT I'M NOT SURE I WOULD DO THAT WITHOUT HURTING MYSELF.

UM, SO THE CITY OF EDMOND IS SUBJECT TO THE OKLAHOMA OPEN RECORDS ACT.

UM, THERE WERE CHANGES IN STATE LAW, UM, THIS PAST YEAR.

UH, WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, BRING OUR POLICY INTO ALIGNMENT WITH SOME NEW ALLOWANCES.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, BEING ABLE TO DEPART, UH, CHARGE DEPOSITS, UH, WHEN ESTIMATED FEES ARE GOING TO EXCEED $75 OR REQUESTER HAS OUTSTANDING FEES FROM A PREVIOUS REQUEST.

UM, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS, UM, IN THE, UH, AGENDA MEMO.

I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? SCENE? NONE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

OF THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

ITEM 10 IS ADJOURNMENT

[10. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]

CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED.

MOTION IS SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE 13 ITEMS UNDER GENERAL CONSENT TONIGHT.

WE'RE BACK AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR ITEM 11, CITY

[11. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]

I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

11 B, 11 H, AND 11 K.

SO WITH THE OTHERS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? B, H, AND K FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, MR. MAYOR, I'D MOVE TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL CONSENT ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 11 B, H AND K.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

THAT PUTS US INTO 12 CITY COUNCIL.

DISCUSSION.

CONSIDERATION ITEMS A IS GOING BACK TO THOSE THREE.

LET'S START WITH

[B. Case No. PR24-00013; Consideration of Approval for a Final Plat for Honeyfield Phase I, Located Southeast of Kelly and Covell. (Broadway Development Group; Ward 1)]

11 B, CASE NUMBER B PR TWO FOUR DASH 0 0 0 3.

CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A FINAL PLAT FOR HONEY FIELD PHASE ONE LOCATED SOUTHEAST CORNER OF KELLY AND COVE.

MR. BRIAN, HELP US OUT HERE.

OF COURSE.

KEN.

BRIAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS FINAL PLAT IS APPROXIMATELY 16.6 ACRES.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COVELL EAST OF KELLY.

THE CASE DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL BE PLOTTED INTO ONE LOT ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY TWO CONNECTIONS ON COVELL.

ONE THAT ALIGNS WITH VILLAGE CENTER DRIVE AND ONE THAT ALIGNS WITH SHORT GRASS ROAD.

THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND CITY STAFF HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PHASING, INCLUDING THAT THE SIGNAL AT SHORT GRASS AND COVEL WILL BE INSTALLED AS PART OF PHASE THREE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE APPLICABLE CASE HAVE BEEN FLAGGED WITH THIS CONDITION TO MAKE IT EASY TO REFERENCE AS ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

UH, WE HAVE A MAP OF THE PHASING IF YOU'RE, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, AH, HERE IT IS HERE.

SO PHASE THREE IS THE GREEN PHASE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE OVERALL PARCEL AT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 21ST, 2026, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO IN WHICH THEY INCLUDED THE CONDITION, THAT AGREEMENT ON THE TIMING OF THE SIGNAL BE REACHED AND DOCUMENTED.

AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

SO IT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE.

IT WAS UNCLEAR IN THE EXPLANATION WHETHER THAT HAD ACTUALLY BEEN AGREED TO OR NOT.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, THERE WAS, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, I, I DUNNO IF CONFUSION, BUT THE, THE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY WE HAD TO LIKE BACKTRACK JUST SLIGHTLY AND ATTACH IT TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BECAUSE AS FUTURE FINAL PLATS COME IN, UM, OR SITE PLANS, WE WON'T, WE WON'T THEN REVIEW THIS FINAL PLAT FOR THAT AGREEMENT.

SO, UM, OF, OF COURSE THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS APPROVED, UM, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CONDITION AND FLAG ARE CAPTURED IN THE SYSTEM.

I DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, .

THE, THE NEXT ITEM THAT COMES IN

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ON THIS OVERALL PROJECT.

SO THE MAP YOU'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE WHOLE QUARTER SECTION, BASICALLY.

SO THE NEXT FINAL PLAT THAT COMES IN, UM, AS WHETHER IT'S PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE RED AREA, PHASE ONE, PART OF PHASE TWO, UM, AS AS WE WORK FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, UM, WE ALWAYS GO BACK TO THAT APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT.

TO ENSURE THAT THE FINAL PLAT CONFORMS. SO THAT'S WHERE THE AGREEMENT IS NOW SITTING WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

DID THAT CLEAR THAT UP FOR YOU? NO.

NO.

I UNDERSTAND THE WORDS YOU SAID, BUT I'M NOT FOLLOWING.

SO IN THE PACKET IT SAYS STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT DELAYING TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLATION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

LIKE I GUESS I WAS SURPRISED IN THE CONSENT DOCKET THAT THERE WAS A THING SAYING STAFF DOESN'T APPROVE.

OH, I SEE.

I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP TO WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND Y RIGHT? YEAH, THAT, SO THAT INFORMATION WAS PREVIOUS TO GETTING DIRECTION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WOULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT.

SO THERE'S A KIND OF A, A TIMELINE.

I DON'T KNOW EX CENTRICITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT I GUESS.

SO JUST WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL? THIS IS CONFUSING.

KEN , WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? WHAT ARE YOU ALL RECOMMENDING TODAY? UM, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT.

OR NOT A DATA CENTER IN THERE.

IS THERE SIR? .

OH GOODNESS.

SO IF, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY BETWEEN PLANNING COMMISSION AND NOW, YOU ALL HAVE WORKED EVERYTHING OUT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE, UH, THE APPLICANT TEAM WAS INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

SO IF YOU, THEY'RE HERE TO OFFER ADDITIONAL, UM, CONTEXT IF YOU LIKE.

WELL, LET'S GET THE APPLICANT UP HERE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.

, UH, TODD MCKENNA, I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.

I THINK IT'S THE BARRY MOORE MEMORIAL DATA CENTER IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING UP THERE.

, UH, JUST, UH, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

UH, THE PURPLE IS PHASE THREE, GREEN IS PHASE TWO.

SO JUST, AND THAT'S ON THE LEGEND, BUT, UH, JUST A MINOR MISSTATEMENT.

WHAT HAPPENED, I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN WATERSON IS THERE WAS AN ERROR BY THIS ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN THE MEMO FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT SAID THERE HAD NOT BEEN A, UH, PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT FOR THE TIMING OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

AND THEN STEVE LAWRENCE SENT ME AN EMAIL THE NEXT DAY AND SAID, THAT WAS MY MISTAKE.

THERE HADN'T BEEN AN AGREEMENT YET.

WE MADE A PROPOSAL ABOUT WHAT PHASE AND WHAT OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SAID WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

AND SO THEN WE EXCHANGED TWO EMAILS AND WITHIN ABOUT 24 HOURS, UH, HE SAID THE STAFF IS IN AGREEMENT THAT PHASE THREE, WHEN THAT FINAL PLAT OR PLAT COMES IN, WHAT KEN WAS SAYING, THEN WE'LL KNOW IT.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PLAT FOR PHASE ONE SHOWS, HEY, WHEN THESE GUYS SHOW UP FOR PHASE THREE, THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT TIME.

SO THE AGREEMENT WAS MADE WITHIN ABOUT 36 HOURS AT THE END OF PLANNING COMMISSION LAST TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE STAFF MEMO FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

I I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS NOW.

I THINK SO.

REMEMBER, UH, THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL GOING IN THERE NOW WHERE THE TOMMY'S CAR WASH IS.

THE, THE WORDING IN THE PACKET JUST PUZZLED ME, I GUESS.

WELL I, AND I THINK MR. BRIAN WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO CALL ME TODAY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT, HEY, LISTEN THIS THE WAY IT SOUNDS AND WE REALIZED, HEY, THE MEMO WAS TIED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMO WHEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF MISINFORMATION BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME.

SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS ? JUST ONE WE'VE, WE'VE RECOGNIZED AS A CITY WE NEED A A SIGNAL THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, RIGHT? FIRST KEN? WELL, YES AND NO.

SO, UH, WHEN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS COMES IN, THEY IDENTIFY THE CONDITION OF THE VARIOUS SIGNALS THAT EXIST AND THEN THEY GRADE THE INTERSECTIONS A THROUGH F BASED ON WHAT IT IS AT ITS HIGHEST PEAK TIME AT ANY OH, AT THE HIGHEST PEAK TIME.

AND SO WE HAVE THIS ISSUE AROUND TOWN AND THIS ISSUE'S NOT GOING AWAY.

WE HAVE SOME INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN POOR CONDITION BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT STATUS, BUT THERE'S NOT MONEY TO REPAIR THEM OR TO UPGRADE THEM.

SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, WELL, WHO BEARS THE BURDEN? THE FIRST PERSON IN OR THE LAST PERSON IN? SO THEN WE LOOK TO THE SCIENCE ON THE DEAL, I GUESS SCIENCE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT OF FUTURE TRAFFIC TO THAT INTERSECTION, SHORT GRASS OR WHEREVER IT MIGHT BE.

AND SO THEN THAT'S WHERE THE APPLICANT COORDINATES WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR TRAFFIC EXPERTS TO SAY, WELL, OKAY, UH, IT'S EASIER FOR THE APPLICANT WHEN THERE'S MORE MONEY AVAILABLE TO PAY FOR IT.

AND IT'S ALSO EQUITABLE TO DO IT WHEN THE CAUSE GETS TO THAT POINT OF NEEDING IT TO BE DONE AS OPPOSED TO, HEY, NOW SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD TIME.

SO WE HAD THE EXACT SAME EXAMPLE A SECOND IN KELLY WHEN KELLY HOLLOW APARTMENTS CAME IN.

JUST SO YOU MAY

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AND AT THE TIME THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY STAFF ABOUT, HEY, THAT INTERSECTION'S ALREADY MESSED UP SECOND AND KELLY IS ALREADY A VERY DANGEROUS AND HIGHLY VOLATILE USE.

SO SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN WHEN UH, BILLY SIMS BARBECUE CAME IN? SHOULD THAT HAVE BEEN THE TIME THAT YOU DID IT? AND SO THEN YOU HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE EXPERTS TO FIGURE OUT WHEN'S THE EQUITABLE TIME FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE DON'T HAVE A FEE IN LOOP PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM IN A SENSE OF, WELL, WHAT IF WE PUT IN OUR CONTRIBUTORY SHARE IN 2010 AND NOW IT'S 2026 AND THERE'S STILL NOT AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT 'CAUSE OF SIGNALIZATION.

WELL THE COST IS NOW SEVEN TIMES AS MUCH AND WHO'S KEEPING TRACK OF THAT? SO I THINK THERE'S A DESIRE BY THE STAFF TO TRY TO DO IT MORE IN TIME WITH WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND THAT'S HOW I THINK WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THIS DEAL THAT WHEN WE COME IN AND WE ADD TO THAT PROBLEM, WE'LL PAY OUR CONTRIBUTORY SHARE TOWARDS THAT SIGNALIZATION.

WELL I THINK THAT WAS MY POINT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A BETTER METHODOLOGY THAN THE POOR LAST GUY IN OR ADMITTEDLY THE FIRST GUY IN OR GIRL WELL, OR THE FIRST GUY IN.

I MEAN THERE I DOWN THE ROAD.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO BEAR.

THERE'S AN IMPACT DISCUSSION COMING I THINK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK, THANK YOU.

MORE QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? MOVE APPROVAL OF 11 B.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE MOTION PASSES.

ON 11 H CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A HEALTHY COMMUNITY INCENTIVE GRANT AGREEMENT FROM THE TOBACCO SETTLEMENT ENDOWMENT TRUST TS E FOR A HAER PARK ACTIVITY AREA.

WE'RE NOW

[H. Consideration of Approval of a Healthy Community Incentive Grant Agreement from the Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust (TSET) for a Hafer Park Activity Area. (Ward 1)]

WE GOT ANYBODY? HERE COMES CHRISTIE BATTERSON RIGHT NOW.

GOOD EVENING.

CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.

MY TEAM OVERSEE GRANT ADMINISTRATION.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTION.

I CAN GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT.

WE APPLIED, UH, FOR A TE GRANT AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF OF WORKING ON BECOMING A HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

UM, THE PROJECT AT FER PARK WAS, UM, IDENTIFIED AND UPGRADING AGING AMENITIES AND IMPROVING ACCESSIBILITY.

UM, THE CURRENT WOODEN STAGE AT HAYFORD PARK THAT'S DOWN IN THAT LOWER LEVEL, UM, HAS DETERIORATED BEYOND REPAIR AND MUST BE DIS YOU KNOW, DISMANTLED FOR THE FUNCTIONALITY AND SAFETY AT THEIR AUGUST 20, AUGUST, 2025 MEETING.

THE PARKS BOARD DISCUSSED THAT SINCE, UM, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAVE, UM, THE GROUNDS THAT AC KAING ARE BEING REDONE RIGHT NOW AND THERE WERE 12 HORSESHOE PITS THAT WERE REMOVED, UM, TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY THERE.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY THOUGHT SOME HORSESHOE PITS MIGHT BE IN THIS AREA, MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA AS WELL AS SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN IN THIS SPACE.

UM, IT IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT, UM, WITH A $25,000 MATCH THAT'S COMING OUT OF PARK TAX.

AND THAT IS FOR DESIGN.

AND I BELIEVE IN THE THIS MONTH'S PARKS BOARD MEETING, UM, THERE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD A DESIGN FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE PARKS BOARD QUESTIONS.

SO HOW DID THE STAGE GET IN THE CONDITION IT'S IN THAT I CAN AN ANSWER.

I THINK IT WAS THE PRIORITIZATION OF OTHER AMENITIES THAT NEEDED TO BE, UM, TAKEN CARE OF AND MAINTENANCE WISE ON OTHER PARKS.

UM, AND I THINK OVER TIME IT JUST GOT PUT LOWER PRIORITIZATION.

WE ALSO HAVE STEVENSON PARK THAT HAS A NEW AMPHITHEATER.

WE HAVE MITCH PARK THAT HAS AN AMPHITHEATER, UM, AS WELL AS SHANNON MILLER HAS A SMALL GATHERING PLACE AS WELL.

AND SO THOSE AREAS HAVE BEEN UTILIZED, UM, SINCE THEN.

AND, AND WE JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE NOT MAINTAINED THE, THE STRUCTURE AT HAYFORD.

THIS ISN'T THE ONLY THING THAT'S HAPPENING AT HAYFORD TOO.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ALSO RECEIVED A GRANT FOR THE DUCK POND PAVILION AS WELL RECENTLY.

WELL, DON'T FORGET THE BRIDGE TO THE NATURE PRESERVE AND THE BRIDGE.

THROUGH THE PARKS RESERVATION, A SPECIAL EVENT.

AND, AND THE CHARLES LAMB PRESERVE AS WELL.

UM, I MEAN I'M HEARING THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL USING THAT STAGE.

THEY ARE NOT RESERVING IT AND IT HAS BEEN RE REMOVED FROM THE PARK'S WEBSITE.

SO IF IT IS IT'S AD HOC TYPE OF SITUATION, UM, BUT THEY HAVE NOT RESERVED IT THROUGH AND, AND IT'S NOT FOR MUSIC PURPOSES.

IT'S, I'M HEARING ABOUT, UM, YOGA TAI CHI AGAIN.

I, YEAH, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S AD HOC STUFF.

IT'S NOT BEING RESERVED 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR BEING RESERVED ON THE PARK ON OUR WEBSITE.

WELL, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO RESERVE IT IF IT'S NOT ON THERE.

CORRECT.

, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS USED? I BELIEVE THREE YEARS AGO IN RESERVATION OF RESERVING IT

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I KNOW THE AREA IN FRONT OF IT, I THINK HAS BEEN USED FROM TIME TO TIME LIKE LIBERTY FEST WHEN THEY HAVE THE CAR SHOW THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY USING THE STAGE.

UM, AND THE CONCERTS, I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN MOVED TO STEVENSON PARK.

MM-HMM .

I THINK THERE, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN YES, THERE WAS YOGA TO LIKE AN ORGANIZED EVENT.

UM, I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN A WHILE.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THERE ALL DAY EVERY DAY.

UM, BUT THE STAGE AS I SEE IT NOW, THE WAY I SEE IT BEING USED IS SOMETIMES KIDS KIND OF, I MEAN, THEY LOVE TO BE ON THE STAGE, THEY'RE KIND OF RUNNING AROUND.

UM, I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE STATE OF THE STAGE AND ANYONE BEING ON IT.

UM, SO, SO THE BUT THE QUESTION AT HAND RIGHT NOW IS, ARE WE ACCEPTING THIS GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR FROM TS E FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS AREA? DOING NOTHING TO ME IS NOT AN OPTION.

UM, I, I MEAN WE ASKED FOR THIS MONEY AND WE GOT IT.

SO I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOME YARD GAMES, GAGA BALL PITS, HORSESHOES, THAT, THAT PROVIDES, UM, ACTIVITIES FOR OLDER KIDS, FOR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO SCREENS AND THEY CHOOSE SCREENS OVER RECREATION.

AND I THINK THE MORE THE CITY CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OLDER KIDS TO, UH, TO RECREATE AND BE AROUND OTHER PEOPLE, I THINK THE BETTER.

AND THAT'S WHAT T SET STANDS TO DO.

NOW, T SET, THEY, THEY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST STAGES, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THEIR AREA, THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF GRANTS THEY MAKE.

SO PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT PUTTING A STAGE BACK IN ER PARK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF PRIORITY THAT IS.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO DISCUSS.

BUT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED RIGHT NOW IS, ARE WE ACCEPTING THE MONEY WE ASK FOR? AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT COULD COME FROM THIS.

AND SO THE PARKS BOARD WILL LOOK AT DESIGNS.

WOULD IT BE, WOULD THAT BE A GOOD TIME FOR CITIZENS TO, TO GIVE INPUT ON THE, I MEAN, I DON'T, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE NOT SET IN STONE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE? YES, THEY CAN.

YES, THEY CAN ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

I, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE AT THIS MONTH'S MEETING, THEY'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT THE DESIGNS OR CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO FORWARD.

I WILL SAY WE DO HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY BY APRIL OF 2027.

SO WE ARE ON A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE, BUT THAT IS DOABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WITH, UM, CITIZEN FEEDBACK.

DOES THE, DOES THIS FUNDING INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE, THE COST OF THE REMOVAL OF THE STAGE? YES.

UM, THIS MONEY WILL COVER THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING STAGE CONSTRUCTION OF A DA ACCESSIBILITY SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS, INSTALLING CRUSHED GRANITE SEATING AND LOUNGE AREA WITH LANDSCAPING, AND THEN BUILDING THAT MULTIPLE RECREATION TYPE GAMES, WHETHER IT BE HORSE HORSESHOES OR A CORNHOLE OR WHATEVER.

LOOK AT A, PERHAPS A STUDY AND WHETHER OR NOT WHETHER TO, BUT THE POSSIBILITY TO PUT ANOTHER STAGE UP.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

IT WAS HARD FROM THIS TO SEE $125,000 FOR HORSESHOES AND CORNHOLE.

I MEAN, THERE HAD TO BE MORE TO IT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH SOME OF THAT.

YES, SIR.

UH, I THINK I'M WITH WHAT SHE SAID THAT, UM, MY FAMILY TOOK CHRISTMAS PICTURES ON THE STAGE 10 YEARS AGO.

SO, AND WE LIVE RIGHT THERE.

SO, AND I GO THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY, UH, TO SEE HOW THE BALL FIELDS ARE DOING ACTUALLY.

BUT, UH, YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S, TO ME, I AGREE IT'S A NO-BRAINER THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE THAT STAGE.

IT IS PRETTY DANGEROUS, I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S CRUMBLING.

UM, AND WHAT WE DO WITH THIS MONEY IS STILL NOT LOCKED IN.

TOTALLY.

I JUST LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR.

I THINK THE NEXT PARKS AND REC BOARD IS MAY 21ST.

SO JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I LIKE THAT APPROACH OF, YOU KNOW, I, WE DO NEED TO TEAR OUT THE STAGE IN ITS CURRENT STATE.

WE DO WANT TO ACCEPT THIS FREE MONEY, WHAT WE DO WITH IT AND HOW WE DESIGN THAT AREA, I THINK CAN BE SUBJECT TO INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND IF WE PUT ANOTHER STAGE IN OR IF WE DO SOMETHING ELSE IN THE PARK, SUPPORT, I THINK CAN BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD.

SO I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

YEAH, I MEAN, HAYFORD PARK HAS EVOLVED A LOT OVER TIME, AND I THINK WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT ARE IT STILL LARGELY LOOKS LIKE IT DID WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL PLAYING THERE.

I MEAN, THERE USED TO BE ANOTHER STAGE WHERE THERE WAS SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK MM-HMM .

UM, SO I DON'T, TO ME, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE ENDLESS JUST BECAUSE THIS STAGE IS, IT'S BEYOND REPAIR.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE CAN'T BE A STAGE OR, UM, OR THAT WE HAVE OTHER STAGES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT, NOT SAYING NO, NEVER, BUT JUST WE'VE GOTTA BE RESPONSIBLE AND ACCEPT THE GRANT THAT WE ASKED FOR.

THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN.

THAT SOLVED MY CONCERNS.

SO IF WE CAN

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THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AND I, I WILL SAY, UM, THAT WHAT, GO AHEAD.

UM, YES, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A STAGE.

UM, BUT THIS MONEY, TSEP MONEY CAN'T BE USED FOR THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

BUT I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

SO I HAVE A MOTION.

DO YOU HAVE ? THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

[K. Consideration of Approval of Second Addendum to the Agreement with Remedy Health to Support the Clinic's Weight Management Program; $60,000.00. (Citywide)]

TO 11 K.

CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF SECOND AMENDMENT ADDENDUM TO THE AGREEMENT WITH REMEDY HEALTH TO SUPPORT THE CLINIC'S WEIGHT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $60,000.

WE GOT ANYBODY FROM STAFF THAT CAN HELP US WITH THIS ONE TONIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM HR HERE, BUT I WAS, UH, AT THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE MEETING WHEN THIS, UH, WHEN THIS ITEM CAME FORWARD.

I TAKE A SHOT AT IT, NO PUN INTENDED.

MY MY CONCERN HERE IS WE'RE SAYING 60,000, BUT THAT THE REALITY OF IT IS THAT'S 120,000 A YEAR AND WE'RE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF OUR INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND NOW WE'RE, I DON'T WANNA SAY THROWING ANOTHER 120,000 AT IT, BUT IT'S COSTING US ANOTHER $120,000.

UM, AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM AND SAY, IS THIS WORKING? IS THIS RIGHT? UM, WE'RE DIGGING OURSELVES A DEEPER HOLE ON WHAT IT COSTS US PER EMPLOYEE, AND I THINK EVERYONE IN THE CITY SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

UM, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK TWO THINGS.

I THINK, UH, THE AMENDMENT TONIGHT WOULD AT LEAST, UM, IN FAIRNESS TO THE PROVIDER, UM, COMPENSATE THE CLINIC FOR WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.

I THINK MAYBE, UH, AN, UH, AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO LOOK AT THE, UH, DISAGREEMENT, BUT ALSO HEALTH INSURANCE GOING FORWARD IS AFTER WE HAVE, UM, UH, RENEWAL, WE'RE, WE'RE OUT.

WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO THE MARKET TO GET, UM, INSURANCE RATES NOW.

AND ONCE WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE COSTS, WE'D COME BACK.

AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD POINT TO HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CITY'S, UH, APPROACH TO SELF-INSURANCE AS A WHOLE.

AND THEN MAYBE SOME INDIVIDUAL ASPECTS OF IT.

THE QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M, I'M, FINANCIALLY I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE.

I'M JUST, I'VE GOTTA ADMIT IT.

I, I, I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE IT, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND AMEND IT WITHOUT, UH, NECESSARILY LOCKING INTO THE NEXT, UH, YEAR'S WORTH OF COST.

BECAUSE THE PROVIDER I THINK, IN GOOD FAITH HAS BEEN PROVIDING THE SERVICES AND, UH, WE WANNA BE FAIR TO 'EM.

SO THIS IS PRIMARILY PAYING BACK TO JANUARY? YES.

DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A CHOICE? ? YEAH, WE WANNA HONOR, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR WORD.

WELL WE, YEAH, WE NEED, WE NEED TO, TO HONOR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR PARTNERS, UM, IN ANYTHING WE DO.

BUT I DO, MR. KRIEGER, I DO WANT TO, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS BECAUSE IF THESE COSTS KEEP INCREASING, UM, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT HARDER AND HARDER FOR US TO DIG OUT OF THE HOLE.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? WELL, THAT, UH, CHANGES THINGS FOR ME WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING.

IT GOES BACK TO JANUARY FOR SERVICES ALREADY PROVIDED, I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL ON 11 K.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[B. Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 17-26 Approving and Adopting an Open Records Policy and Fee Schedule to Supersede the Open Records Policy and Fee Schedule Adopted May 8, 2023; Directing the City Clerk to File, Post, and Distribute; And Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]

12 B, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 17 DASH 26 APPROVING AND ADOPTING AN OPEN RECORDS POLICY AND FEE SCHEDULE TO SUPERSEDE THE OPEN RECORDS POLICY AND FEE SCHEDULE ADOPTED MAY 8TH, 2023, DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO FILE, POST,

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AND DISTRIBUTE AND PROVIDE AN, AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND THIS IS A COMPANION ITEM TO WHAT WE SAW IN THE PUBLIC WORKS MEETING.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? UH, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 12 B.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

ITEM 12

[C. Discussion and Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 11-26 Amending the City Council Travel Policy; Setting Forth the Conditions Under Which In-State and Out-Of-State Travel will be Pre-Paid and/or Reimbursed by the City for the Mayor and Members of the City Council; Providing for Distribution and Filing; And Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]

C IS DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 1111 DASH 26 AMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL TRAVEL POLICY SETTING FORTH THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH IN-STATE AND OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL WILL BE PREPAID AND OR REIMBURSED BY THE CITY FOR THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, PROVIDING FOR DISTRIBUTION AND FILING AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

WE'VE KICKED THIS ONE AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT OUR ASSISTANT DECIDED TO TAKE A, THE ONCE IN A LIFETIME VACATION, UM, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.

UM, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THESE CHANGES AND THEN ADOPT A, THAT ARE IN HERE, THAT THE REDLINED THAT WE'VE GOT.

I THOUGHT THE CHANGES, DIDN'T YOU MAKE CHANGES TO IT? DID I JUST I THINK THEY'RE GOOD AND I YEAH, SHE DID IT.

YEAH.

THEN WE DID GET 'EM IN THERE BEFORE SHE LEFT.

YEAH.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PERMANENT AGENDA ITEM.

WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY IT MIGHT BE.

MAYBE WE NEED JUST TO PROVE THIS AND GET IT OUT OF OUR HAIR.

IT'S GONNA STICK AROUND.

WELL, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING WE GAVE DIRECTION TO MADELINE AND KATIE.

THEY DID WHAT WE ASKED THEM.

I'VE READ OVER IT.

I'M ARE YOU HAPPY WITH IT? YES.

BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT I WAS HAPPY WITH.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

D DISCUSSION OF LAKE ARCADIA ACCESS.

FIVE ZERO ITEM 12

[D. Discussion of Lake Arcadia Access. (Ward 2)]

THIS WAS ASKED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER TO START THE DIALOGUE, IF YOU WILL, BY THE COUNCIL.

AND WE CANNOT HAVE ANY DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE LAKE UNTIL WE GET CITIZENS INPUT.

AND WE HAVE SOME INPUT FROM A COUPLE OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE FOR ACCESS OUT AT THE LAKE.

SO, UM, MR. KRIEGER, I'M GONNA LOOK AT YOU AND SAY, COULD YOU PLEASE GATHER UP ALL THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE WRITTEN AND PROVIDE THEM TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AFTER WE'VE GATHERED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS.

AND WE WILL HAVE A BIGGER DISCUSSION.

THAT, I WOULD MOVE ON TO ITEM 13, COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? WE PUT THIS ON HERE SO THAT EVERYONE IN EDMUND KNOWS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS WORKING ON THIS AND IT'S PART OF A BIGGER ISSUE AND IT REQUIRES THE INPUT OF THE ENTIRE CITY AND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST WAITING UNTIL WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

SO, UH, WITH THAT SAID, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON IT.

WITH

[13. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]

ANYONE? UM, I I WILL JUST MAKE A COMMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRAGEDY THAT OCCURRED AT, UH, ARCADIA LAKE.

UH, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL VERY FRESH ON OUR MINDS AND, BUT EVEN MORE SO ON THE, THE KIDS AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AND WHO WERE AFFECTED.

AND, UM, MY CONDOLENCES ARE WITH ANA'S FAMILY.

AND, UM, I JUST, AGAIN, WANTED TO EXPRESS MY SYMPATHY AND CONCERN AND, UM, AND MY HOPE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

SO, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

BY ECHOING WHAT MS. MURDOCH NICHOLS HAS SAID.

ANYONE ELSE? I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE AND MAKE A REQUEST, UH, THROUGH CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT WE ADD TO OUR LIST OF EVER INCREASING WORKSHOPS, STUDY MATTERS, THE, THE ISSUE OF DATA CENTERS AND, AND HOW WE DEVELOP AN EXPERTISE WITHIN THE CITY TO ADDRESS THOSE AND DIFFERENTIATE THE TYPES, KINDS AND SOURCES.

MR. MOORE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I CAN END THIS

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UM, IT HAS BEEN A TOUGH WEEK FOR THE CITY.

UM, I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS HERE IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.

AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, THE WAY OUR CITIZENS HAVE STOOD UP FOR EACH OTHER OVER THE LAST WEEK, UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE GONNA BE THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA WORLD WHO WILL SAY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

BUT, UM, THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE HEARD FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FOR THE MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF AND THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING AND I THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT.

UH, WITH THAT SAID, I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED.

MAYOR.