May 19, 2026 Planning Commission

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GOOD EVENING.

[1. Call to Order of the Edmond Planning Commission.]

ALL RIGHT, ON THE AGENDA GOING DOWN, WE WILL LOOK AT THE CONSIDERATION FOR

[2. Consideration of Approval of Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes: May 05, 2026.]

DO WE HAVE ANY EDITS, MODIFICATIONS, OR CHANGES? IF NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

LET'S SECOND.

YEAH, WE HAVE A SECOND BY VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.

THOSE ARE APPROVED.

MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA.

UH, UH, AGENDA ITEM THREE,

[A. Case No. ES26-00003; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for an Easement Closing on a property located at 441 Saint Claire Drive. (Dugan; Ward 4)]

AGENDA ITEM THREE, A CASE NUMBER ES TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 3 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF AN EASEMENT CLOSING ON A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4 4 1 ST.

CLAIR DRIVE IS THE APPLICANT HERE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.

THANK YOU SIR.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CLOSE A 10 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT IN THEIR BACKYARD.

EDMA ELECTRIC DOES NOT HAVE FACILITIES LOCATED IN THIS EASEMENT.

THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE EASEMENT CLOSING AND NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM FRANCHISE UTILITIES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? OKAY, HEARING NONE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY STAFF BY THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS, THIS IS TIME FOR PUBLIC TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, BUT PLEASE ADDRESS ALL QUESTIONS TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

ANYBODY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A PHOTO OF, UH, FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 8TH, 2026.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA

[B. Case No. SP25-00024; Public Hearing and Consideration for a Site Plan for tru by Hilton, located north of Covell on Progressive Drive. (Blew Inc; Ward 2)   Consideration of Variance to Title 22.6.1(E)(4)(b) which requires 150 feet of separation between points of access. ]

SO THREE B IS CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 2 4 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SITE PLAN FOR TRUE BY HILTON LOCATED NORTH OF COVE ON PROGRESSIVE DRIVE.

AND ALONG THAT WE HAVE THE SISTER REQUEST OF AGENDA ITEM B ONE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF VARIANCE TO TITLE TWO TWO DASH SIX DASH ONE E FOUR B, WHICH REQUIRES 150 FOOT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN POINTS OF ACCESS.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND MR. BRIAN, WE PRESENT, UH, TELL US WHEN YOU'RE ONTO THE VARIANCE, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS SITE PLAN IS APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF PROGRESSIVE DRIVE A FEW HUNDRED FEET NORTH OF COVAL.

THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ARE PROVIDED FROM PROGRESSIVE DRIVE.

THESE ACCESS POINTS REQUIRE VARIANCE TO THE 150 FOOT SEPARATION STANDARD.

THE ELEVATIONS SHOW THE FOUR STORY BUILDING TO BE 48 FEET TALL AT ITS HIGHEST POINT AND THE FACADE IS PRIMARILY BRICK WITH EFAS ACCENTS.

I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE INITIAL VERSION OF THE STAFF MEMO CONTAINED INCORRECT INFORMATION ABOUT OUR OPINION ON THE DRIVEWAY VARIANCE THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN CORRECTED.

STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCE.

THE SITE PLAN ALLOWS FOR AMAL CIRCULATION AND ACCESS.

PROGRESSIVE DRIVE IS A LOW SPEED DEAD END STREET AND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE CONNECTIONS ARE EXTREMELY RESTRICTED, MEANING THAT LEFT TURNING MOVEMENT FROM THE SITE ONTO PROGRESSIVE DRIVE ARE UNLIKELY.

IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, AUSTIN SMITH, OUR DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND CONTEXT.

REMINDER THAT THE TWO MOTIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS ITEM.

FIRST ONE ON THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION AND THEN ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE ACCESS SEPARATION VARIANCE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. BRYANT.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? OKAY, COME ON UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M VICTORIA FINNEGAN WITH BLUE AND ASSOCIATES AT 13,900 WIRELESS WAY.

WE ARE THE ENGINEERS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE REQUESTING THIS VARIANCE.

AS, UM, MR. BRIAN EXPLAINED IN THIS CASE, UM, THE HOTEL, WE HAVE THE HOTEL POSITIONED IN A WAY THAT IT'S, UM, EASILY VIEWED FROM COVELL WHERE MOST OF THE CLIENTS WILL BE COMING IN FROM AND THE TWO DRIVES GIVES A REALLY GOOD, UM, FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

AND, UM, WE'RE MAINLY ASKING FOR THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE TO MOVE ANY OF THESE DRIVES WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE EXISTING UTILITIES, WHICH WILL BE COSTLY AND DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW OF CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT OF THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE COME AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND ON THE VARIANCE OF CONSIDERATION FOR A VARIANCE TO TITLE TWO, 2.6 0.1 E FOUR B, WHICH REQUIRES 150 FOOT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN POINTS OF ACCESS.

THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM WE WOULD ASK FOR CONSIDERATION FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON SIX EIGHT OF 26.

NOW LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CASE NUMBER SP TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 2 4 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR THE SITE PLAN WITH A TRUE BY HILTON MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON SIX EIGHT OF 26.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA

[C. Case No. Z18-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of an amended PUD Design Statement for the Legacy at Covell, located on the north side of East Covell Road, east of Sooner Road. (Covell 35 Development, LLC Ward 2)]

LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST COVE ROAD, UM, EAST OF SUNA ROAD.

AND IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU MR. BRIAN.

WE PRESENT? YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS AMENDED PUD IS APPROXIMATELY 115 ACRES.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COVELL AND SOONER.

THE ORIGINAL PUD WAS APPROVED IN 2006 AND WAS AMENDED IN 2018.

THE PROPOSED PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS.

THE NORTHERN 71 ACRES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WOULD ALLOW BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.

THIS IS AN INCREASE FROM THE 47 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY ALLOWED.

THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALLOWED TO BE INCREASED TO 950.

CURRENTLY 600 ARE ALLOWED.

A THIRD 60 FOOT MONUMENT STYLE GROUND SIGN WOULD BE ALLOWED ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

CURRENTLY TWO OF THESE SIGNS ARE ALLOWED.

STAFF RECOMMENDS A RULE OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THIS PUD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU MR. BRYAN.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? THANK YOU MR. MCKINNIS.

GOOD EVENING.

TODD MCKINNIS FOR THE APPLICANT.

KIP RYAN'S HERE WHO'S PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP OF THE APPLICANT.

UH, JUST MENTION ONE THING 'CAUSE SOMEONE ASKED ME THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR AMENDED PUD THAT'S REQUIRED FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RETAIL THAT PROJECT'S MOVING FORWARD.

YOU'VE SEEN SITE PLANS FOR MULTIPLE BUILDINGS OUT THERE.

WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS.

WE ELIMINATED ONE OF OUR SIGNS ON SOONER ROAD AND WE PICKED UP A SIGN ON I 35 AND WE ADDED TO THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

BOTH THINGS ARE DRIVEN BY THE DENSE BY THE RETAIL ACTIVITY THAT'S AT THE SITE.

UH, WHEN WE FIRST DID THE PUD BACK IN 2006, I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS HERE THAT DID IT, UH, WITH RANDALL SHADED AND WE HAD A RESTRICTION ON THIS ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL THAT HAD TO BE ABOVE RETAIL BECAUSE LIFESTYLE CENTERS WERE IN VOGUE 20 YEARS AGO.

THEY'RE NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE, ALTHOUGH MAYBE THEY'RE MAKING A COMEBACK.

SO W WITH THE ACTIVITY IN THE SITE, THERE'S A GREATER NEED FOR DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S WHY WE INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

IT'S NOT DECREASING ANY OF OUR COMMERCIAL AND IT'S JUST ALSO THE MOVEMENT OF ONE SIGN FROM SOONER, UH, TO I 35.

SO THAT'S HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD ANY.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS? UH, YEAH, I'VE GOT A REALLY QUICK ONE AND YOU PRETTY MUCH JUST ANSWERED IT.

UM, WE'RE GOING FROM 600 TO 950, THE NINE 50.

WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY ANY RETAIL SPACE AT ALL WITH THE ADDITIONAL NO, SIR.

IT JUST REALLY ADDED FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

YEAH, I MEAN ESSENTIALLY ZONES WHERE YOU HAVE MORE YEAH, YOU CAN STILL DO COMMERCIAL RETAIL IF YOU NEED THERE, CORRECT? YES, YES.

BUT YOU HAVE THAT OPTION.

AND THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION IS REALLY KIND OF THE, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD PUBLIC INCENTIVES GO OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS CHANGE.

DO WE, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE SALES TAX TO THE, TO THE CITY.

AND SO WITH THAT CHANGE, IS THERE ANY EFFECT ON THAT OR, I MEAN, I JUST KIND OF, I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR SCOPE, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS AN OVERARCHING QUESTION THERE.

NO, THAT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION.

IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NOTHING RELATED TO THIS PUD THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT HAS ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON SALES TAX PROJECTIONS FOR THE ENTIRE SITE, UH, NOR THE INDIRECT ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE GENERAL AREA.

SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT DOES A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE CITY STAFF OR

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IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE COME UP AND PLEASE ADDRESS THEM STRAIGHT TO ME AND ONCE WE GET ALL OF EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS, WE'LL TRY TO GET ANSWERS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU DAVID LAMBETH.

UM, WE HAVE GREAT INTEREST IN THIS SITE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THREE OTHER QUARTER SECTIONS WE'RE DOING NORTH AND NORTHWEST OF HERE AND WE HAVE A SITE NORTHEAST OF HERE.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE DENSITY, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH ANY OF THE TYPES.

I MEAN, I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT'S, UM, TRAFFIC ENGINEER GETTING WITH OURS AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY BY LOOKING AT LONG RANGE, HOW'S THIS GONNA IMPACT THE TRAFFIC? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE JUST PROVIDED PRIOR TO ZONING A, UH, MASTER TRAFFIC, UH, PLAN FOR THE THREE QUARTER SECTIONS THAT WHERE THEY'RE PLATING OR PLANNING RIGHT NOW.

AND WE HAD TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 14 OTHER SITES WITHIN A COUPLE OF MILES, UH, THAT WE'VE GOTTA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS OR WE'RE RESPONSIBLE OF SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENTS.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY HAVE OR THEY HAVEN'T, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE FEDS AND THE CITY AND THE STATE HAVE MADE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AROUND COVE AND SOONER AND, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE TOWN HOMES THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW, THAT STREET'S NOT WIDENED PER CODE AND, AND THEY'RE OPENING AND OPERATING AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY PAID A FEE IN LIEU OF OR NOT, MAYBE THAT'S A CITY PROBLEM.

AGAIN, IT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICANT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT AS SOON AS YOU ADD IN EVERY SINGLE UNIT THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS OUR TRAFFIC.

THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING AND WHAT WE'VE PUT INTO PROCESSOR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY ADJUST AND CHANGE THOSE IN THE LONG RANGE.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE GREATEST DISSERVICE IN REGARD TO TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS WE'VE GOT A TWO-LANE BRIDGE THAT'S SOONER RIGHT THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE MADE, YOU KNOW, GOING NORTH OF THERE FROM THIS APPLICANT WHO, YOU KNOW, IS GETTING A LOT OF HELP WITH SUBSIDIES AND GETTING A LOT OF HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, EDMOND AS THEIR CO-APPLICANT ON HOW THEY PLAN ALL THIS.

AND AGAIN, I MEAN, THIS IS A PINNACLE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND I'M ALL FOR IT.

I JUST THINK THAT, UH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE EAST EDMOND 2050 PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, CALLS OUT THIS AREA AS YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AND IT HAS DEFINITIONS OF THAT AND THOUGH I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT NEEDS SOME RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS, BUT IN THAT AREA ALONG THE I 35 CORRIDOR, IT CALLS OUT FOR 27% RETAIL, 23% ENTERTAINMENT, 22% EMPLOYMENT, 18% OFFICE IN 10% OPEN SPACE, THAT'S 0% RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO I'M FINE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.

AND 71 ACRES OUT OF 115 IS EATEN UP A LOT IN MY OPINION FOR RESIDENTIAL WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLANNING FOR, FOR DENSITY ALSO IN AN AREA THAT WAS PLANNED FOR MIXED USE CAMPUS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE 1,420 JOBS THAT THAT CRI THAT CRITERION IN THE URBAN CENTER, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS FOR IN THE EAST EDMOND OR IN THE EDMOND 2018 PLAN, WHERE WE GETTING THE 1,420 JOBS THAT WE LOSE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, THAT'S A PART OF THAT DESIGN CRITERION FOR THAT LOCATION.

SO YEAH, IT MAY BE NOT TAKEN AWAY FROM THE RETAIL, BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE A LIMITED TRAFFIC FLOW AND A AND A TRUE LIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT, WHERE'S THE EMPLOYMENT AT? WHERE ARE THE BUSINESSES AT? AND AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE PLANNING ALL THESE MIXED USE THINGS FROM LIBERTY PARK TO THIS, TO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE NEED TO HAVE INTENTIONAL PLANNED AREAS FOR BUSINESSES AND WE NEED TO BE WORKING JUST AS HARD NOT TO KEEP WHOLE FOODS AND TEXAS ROADHOUSE OPEN AS, AS, AS HARD AS WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, THE FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES THAT HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD LOVE TO MAKE EDMOND A HOME.

BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOK AT WHAT I'M PLANNING AND I'M, AND I'M SAYING THE APPLICANT AND MYSELF ALIKE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING JOBS TO KEEP TRAFFIC DOWN, OTHERWISE ALL I'M DOING IS CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WILL UTILIZE THAT AND USE THAT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US TO MOVE HERE TO GET OUR KIDS IN EDMOND SCHOOLS.

AND IT'S GONNA MISS THE WHOLE INTENT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THINK THE E 7 20 50 PLAN SET OUT TO DO, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, CUT DOWN ON INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, KEEP PEOPLE IN CENTRAL AREAS, YOU KNOW, BUILD UP RETAIL, BUT YOU KNOW, ALSO CREATE A MORE SUCCESSFUL FINANCIALLY STABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ITS CITIZENS.

SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS? TAYLOR WILSON? UM, MINE ARE KIND OF ON THE SAME LINE IN THE SENSE OF THE I 35 CORRIDOR SPEAKS OF SALES PER SQUARE FOOT.

AND I KNOW THE RETAIL

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AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO SELF-CERTIFY? CAN THEY GUARANTEE THAT? HOW DO THEY BUILD TO THAT LEVEL OF STANDARD PRIOR TO APPROVAL, INCLUDING THE SIGN STRUCTURE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE NEED NOW TO DO THE MODIFICATIONS AND LESS THEY'VE ALREADY PRE-SOLD THOSE.

UH, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE MORE DETAILS TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE.

AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM IS MORE IN GENERAL, I'LL SPEAK TO IT SPECIFICALLY HERE AS OPPOSED TO COMMENTS, IS WHAT IS THE TIMING FOR THIS PUD, RIGHT? IS THIS A 10 YEAR, 20 YEAR, 50 YEAR? WHAT IS THE CURRENT STRATEGY? UNDERSTANDING INTEREST RATES ARE SHIFTING LEFT AND RIGHT AND THINGS CHANGE, BUT WHAT'S THE ORIGINAL STRATEGY RELATIVE TO THE EXECUTION OF THE PUD? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

MR. MCKINNIS, YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP? YOU GOT THOSE.

WHAT I HAD WAS THE KIND OF ON TAYLOR'S QUESTIONS I 35 CORRIDOR, THE SALES PER FOOT KIND OF COMMENTS AND THE SIGNED DETAILS.

UH, TIMING OF THE PUD BACK TO MR. LAMBY.

THE EMPLOYMENT I 35 PLAN AGAIN, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING WITH THE DEVELOPERS ARE THINGS I KIND OF CAUGHT OFF THAT.

OKAY, IF I MISS ONE, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

YEP.

UH, PUDS ARE VALID FOR FIVE YEARS.

UH, AS LONG AS YOU GET A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD, THE PUD EXTENDS INDEFINITELY.

SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION THAT'S SET FORTH IN ORDINANCE WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

AS FAR AS THE MASTER SIGN PLAN, THIS IS THE ONLY PUD IN THE HISTORY OF EDMOND THAT'S HAD A MASTER SIGNAGE PLAN, UH, PLACED ON IT.

SO OUR RESTRICTIONS ON OUR SIGNAGE ARE SIGNIFICANT AND WE DID THAT BACK IN 2006.

AND WE HAVE LANGUAGE NRPD THAT YOU SAW RELATED TO ALL TYPES OF SIGNAGE, MONUMENT SIGNAGE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, AND THE PYLON SIGNAGE.

UH, THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE I 35 CORRIDOR.

THIS IS PART OF THE I 35 CORRIDOR.

THAT WAS, THAT HAY'S BEEN IN THE BARN FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS ITSELF.

SO THE IDEA ABOUT WHY WE HAVE MORE SIGNAGE, WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE BRINGING IN 235,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

IT'S THE LARGEST SINGLE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN THE HISTORY OF EDMOND.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THE IDEA ABOUT EMPLOYMENT IN THE 2050 PLAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE HOUSING FOR EMPLOYMENT IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, EDMOND HAS PERMITTED 94% OF THE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

WE'VE HAD 1800 JOBS ON THE I 35 CORRIDOR, AND WE HAVEN'T RE PERMITTED, WE'VE RE PERMITTED LESS THAN 5% MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

SO YOU DON'T TELL ME ABOUT EMPLOYMENT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE OR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

THERE'S AN ARTICLE IN THE PAPER TODAY IS OFF THE CHART.

SO ALL THIS DOES IS PROVIDE GREATER POSSIBILITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR HOUSING IN GENERAL.

SO THE IDEA ABOUT THE 2050 PLAN, THAT'S NOT ABOUT BRINGING JOBS NECESSARILY.

IT'S ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE ELEMENT OF BRINGING JOBS AND HAVING PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE AND AFFORDABLY LIVE AND WORK.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

THE IDEA ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACT.

DAVID LAMBETH HAS MY PHONE NUMBER IF HE WANTS TO CALL ME, HE CAN CALL ME ANYTIME.

OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF A PUD IN EDMOND'S ORDINANCE.

IT IS NOT.

IT'S REQUIRED FOR PLATTING AND SITE PLANNING.

WHEN WE ARE HERE FOR SITE PLANNING OR SITE PLANNING, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO IT.

THE MODIFICATION OF THIS PUD IS 350 POTENTIAL UNITS.

WE DON'T EVEN NEED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THAT.

WE KNOW BY EDMOND STANDARDS, SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY RESIDENTIAL IS 10 TRIPS PER DAY.

THAT'S THE MATH IF HE NEEDS TO ADD IT TO WHATEVER MIGHT BE HAPPENING AT LIBERTY PARK OR ANY OTHER PLACE HE'S A PART OF, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.

WE DO OUR PLANNING ON LONG RANGE PLANNING, NOT BASED ON ANY INDIVIDUAL PUD THAT MIGHT COME BEFORE US.

WE HAVE EDMUND SHIFT, WE HAVE THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS THAT THE CITY HAS USED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE EXISTENCE FOR PLANNING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT FOR DECELERATION AND ACCELERATIONS ARE SIMPLE.

IF WE HAVE MORE THAN 100 TURNING MOVEMENTS IN THE BUSIEST HOUR OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO DO THEM.

THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING ON SOONER, THERE'S NOTHING WE ARE NOT DOING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY OF EDMOND.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE IRRELEVANT TO ACTUAL PUD ASSESSMENT BY YOU GUYS OR THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT GERMANE TO WHAT THE CITY OF EDMOND ORDINANCE SAY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE CONSIDER A PUD FOR A ZONING CHANGE.

BUT THAT'S THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS.

IF I MISSED ANY OF THEM, COMMISSIONER BLUNDELL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I THINK THAT WAS ALL OF THEM.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY, NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

AND A SECOND.

OH, MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND

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THANK YOU.

MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA

[D. Case No. Z26-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Zoning Map Amendment from “PUD Z22-00025” Planned Unit Development to “PUD Z26-00001” Planned Unit Development for Club Car Wash, located on the south side of Covell Road, west of Sooner Road. (Club Car Wash Operating, LLC; Ward 2)]

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO P UUD Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 1.

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR CLUB CAR WASH LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COVE ROAD, WEST OF SOONER IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES.

THANK YOU.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE.

THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COVELL WEST OF SOONER NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE EAST, SOUTH, AND WEST ARE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USES AND ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT OUT AS THE COVELL CORNER DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH ACROSS.

COVELL IS ZONED FOR OFFICE AND RETAIL AND IS DEVELOPED AS THE FAIRFAX BUSINESS PARK AND CREST FOODS TO ACCOMMODATE, ACCOMMODATE A SPECIFIC MIX OF USES.

EDMOND'S CURRENT ZONING CODE UTILIZES A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SUCH AS THE ONE BEING PROPOSED.

THE PB DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.

THE ALLOWED USES WOULD ADD AUTOMATED CAR WASH WITH VACUUMS TO THE EXISTING USES OF INDOOR RECREATION OFFICE, RESTAURANT AND RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 45 FEET FACADE AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS WILL MEET THE I 35 SUPPLEMENTAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

EVEN THOUGH THIS SITE IS JUST OUTSIDE THE I 35 OVERLAY AREA.

THE EDMUND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL BUT DESIGNATES A PUD AS POTENTIALLY APPROPRIATE.

THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND THE REQUIREMENT OF THE HIGHER I 35 LANDSCAPING AND FACADE STANDARDS HELP TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE NEARBY AREA.

AND ALONG WITH PROMOTING HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT ON AN ARTERIAL ROAD, ALL OF WHICH MEETS THE INTENT OF THE PLAN CATEGORY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PUD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

MR. BRIAN.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO, UH, ADD TO CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, KURT WITH COCHRANE ENGINEERING, UH, ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR CLUB CAR WASH, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? I GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

UH, JUST KIND OF A CURIOSITY.

UM, HOW'S THE TECHNOLOGY ON, UH, THE, THE NOISE THAT, UH, THE CAR WASHES MAKE, THE VACUUMS AND THE, ESPECIALLY THE DRYERS? IS THAT, HAS THAT GOTTEN A LOT QUIETER THAT THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I'M, YOU, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DO THINGS TO MAKE IT QUIETER.

WE PUT 'EM IN HOUSINGS, WE TRY TO SHIELD IT.

SO YES, WE DO THINGS TO SPEAK TO THE TECHNOLOGY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD, WELL, I'M JUST ASKING HOW TO GET IT QUIET, QUIETER OR SOMETHING.

, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOUR DISTANCE GOES OFF AND WE'RE FACING TOWARDS CO COVELL ROAD, UM, AND IT COMES THROUGH AND GOES OUT TO THE SOUTH.

SO THERE'LL BE BUSINESSES OR OTHER COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH OF US.

AND AS YOU DISSIPATE EVERY UH, THREE, EVERY METER YOU GO, IT STARTS TO DROP IN HALF.

SO WHERE WE ARE IN RELATIVE TO EVERYTHING ELSE, I FEEL FROM WHAT WE DO TYPICALLY WITH, WITH CAR WASHES, WE'RE CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL.

I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A PROBLEM HERE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

AND WITH THAT IN IN MIND, WOULD YOU DO IN YOUR SIDE PLAN, PLEASE BE AS FAR NORTH AS YOU CAN? ABSOLUTELY.

SO THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY IDEA? SORRY, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS? YES.

THE HOURS OF OPERATION IS SEVEN TO EIGHT, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND EIGHT TO EIGHT ON SUNDAY.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME SEEING NONE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS, THIS IS YOUR TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ASK QUESTIONS AND, UH, FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL QUESTIONS TO ME AS CHAIR OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, COMMITTEE AND WE WILL TRY TO GET YOU ANSWERS ONCE EVERYBODY'S ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

UH, THANKS.

AND, UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME'S JOHN LAWS.

I LIVE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, HEARD, HEARD A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING COMMENTS.

AND IN SOME OF THE, UM, COMMENTS SUPPORTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, A LOT OF IT, YOU KNOW, CONTEMPLATING THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO I 35 AND CERTAINLY THE NORTHERN FACING, UH, ELEMENTS OF WHAT THIS REZONING, UM, IS, IS REQUESTING.

AND I'LL, I'LL ALSO SUBMIT TO YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS A FAIRLY LIGHT RESPONSE ON TECHNOLOGY IMPROVING AROUND CAR WASHES AND NOISE ABATEMENT.

THERE'S NO TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEEN IMPROVED DEVELOPED, UM, RECENTLY.

UH, YOU KNOW, I I, AGAIN, SITTING HERE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, I CAN 100% TELL

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AND LET ME JUST KIND OF GET BACK TO MY OVERALL, OVERALL COMMENTS AND WHAT I HAD PLANNED TO SAY.

SO, UM, RESPECTFULLY, UM, BUT STRONGLY, UH, I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A CLUB CAR WASH AT LOT FOUR OF COVE CROSSING.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO BEGIN BY MAKING SOMETHING VERY CLEAR.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL GROWTH OR REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS COVE CORRIDOR.

THERE IS A LOT OF IT.

I THINK WE'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT TONIGHT ABOUT THE DENSITY THAT'S HERE.

WHAT I DO OPPOSE IS THIS GRADUAL ESCALATION OF LAND USE INTENSITY THROUGH AMENDMENTS THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLANNED USE, UH, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, UM, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS PREVIOUSLY AND PUT BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

UM, THE PROPOSED CAR WASH WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL PUD, UM, THAT WAS GOVERNING THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS HAVE MADE A LOT OF DECISIONS AROUND PURCHASING HOMES, STAYING IN HOMES, UM, CONTRIBUTING TO TO THIS COMMUNITY, UM, WITH, WITH EXPECTATIONS REGARDING THE TYPE INTENSITY AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF FUTURE COMMERCIAL USES NEARBY.

UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSAL, AND THAT'S WHY THIS PROPOSAL FEELS LIKE A BACKDOOR REZONING.

UH, RATHER THAN EVALUATING THIS TYPE OF HIGH INTENSITY AUTOMOTIVE USE, UM, THROUGH A BROADER ZONING PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING, IT'S NOW BEING INSERTED LATER THROUGH AMENDMENT, UH, AFTER THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT'S BEEN WELL ESTABLISHED HERE.

UM, AND IT TOTALLY UNDERMINES THE PREDICTABILITY AND TRUST THAT THE PUD PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE.

FRANKLY.

UH, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF SCOPE CREEP THAT CONCERNS, UH, THE RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS OF OF EDMOND UH, EACH AMENDMENT.

YOU KNOW, AS WE CONSIDER THESE THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SEEM INCREMENTAL IN ISOLATION.

UM, BUT OVER TIME THESE CHANGES ARE, UH, MATERIALLY ALTER THE CHARACTER AND OPERATIONAL INTENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IF THIS OR IF USES OF THIS INTENSITY CAN SIMPLY BE ADDED THROUGH LATER AMENDMENTS THAN THE ORIGINAL PROTECTIONS AND COMPATIBILITY EXPECTATIONS CREATED BY THE PUD BECOME DILUTED PIECE BY PIECE.

A CAR WASH IS NOT PASSIVE, NOR IS IT LOW IMPACT COMMERCIAL USE.

IT'S HIGH TURNOVER AUTO AUTOMOTIVE OPERATION INVOLVING CONSTANT VEHICLE CIRCULATION.

QUEUING AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A CHICK-FIL-A IN IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

UH, VACUUM SYSTEMS, THE SUSTAINED OPERATIONAL NOISE, UM, LIGHTING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.

BUT, UH, I'LL ALSO SUBMIT TO YOU THE ABATEMENT PLAN IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

UM, AND EXTEND THESE EXTENDED OPERATING HOURS THAT THAT WERE DISCUSSED THAT BEGIN IN THE EARLY MORNINGS AND, AND, AND RUN PAST THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.

UM, THE IMPACTS HERE JUST SIMPLY, THEY DO NOT STOP AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

THE OPERATIONAL FOOTPRINT OF A CAR WASH EXTENDS OUTWARD.

UM, CERTAINLY WILL SUBMIT.

AND I THINK MOST OF THE DISCUSSION HERE HAS BEEN, UM, ADMITTING TO THE NORTHWARD, UH, UH, EXTENSION HERE AND, AND TALKING ABOUT THE I 35 PLAN.

BUT IT TOTALLY NEGLECTED, UH, EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH.

THESE CONCERNS AREN'T UNIQUE TO ME.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS JUST FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THIS COMMISSION ALSO, UH, RULED AGAINST THE EXPANSION, UH, OF, OF A DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WAS ALSO SEEKING TO ADD CAR WASHES, UM, AROUND ITS COMMUNITIES.

SO AGAIN, ACROSS COMMUNITIES THERE'S THESE OBJECTIONS FOR CAR WASHES, UM, CONSISTENTLY INVOLVE THE SAME THING AND ISSUES THE NOISE FROM THE VACUUM SYSTEMS, THE CONTINUOUS VEHICLE ACTIVITY, TRAFFIC STACKING CIRCULATION PROBLEMS, LIGHTING IMPACTS, INCOMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THE ESCALATION OF COMMERCIAL INTENSITY BEYOND WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED HERE BY THIS COMMISSION.

THESE ARE EXACTLY THE CONCERNS THAT I'M RAISING.

UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO RAISE A CONCERN REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURE AND GROUNDWATER PROTECTION.

MY HOME RELIES ON WELL WATER, AS DO ALL OF THE HOMES THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY IN THIS, IN THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME REGULATION AROUND THESE FACILITIES, UM, BUT THEY INHERENTLY INVOLVE LARGE VOLUMES OF WATERS DETERGENTS, OILS, RUNOFF, AND GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO NEARBY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND HOMES USING WELLS, I BELIEVE THESE CONCERNS DESERVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION BEFORE INTRODUCING THIS USE INTO SUCH CLOSE, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ESTABLISH NEIGHBORHOODS.

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THESE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS ARE INTENDED TO CREATE THOUGHTFUL TRANSITIONS BETWEEN USES AND PROVIDE CERTAINTY TO BOTH DEVELOPERS AND NEARBY RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS INTRODUCING A HIGH INTENSITY AUTOMOTIVE USE INTO THIS AREA THROUGH AMENDMENT AFTER THE FACT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THAT PURPOSE.

FOR THOSE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO DENY THIS AMENDMENT REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE.

WILL THE APPLICANT COME ON BACK UP? I THINK THE OVERARCHING THEME, WHAT I HEARD IS WHY ARE WE TRYING TO CHANGE THE PUD FOR SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR THAT? UM, SO, AND WE WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE HAD BEEN SOLICITED TO LOOK AT THIS AREA AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE, UH, THE DEVELOPER, THE, THE CELL OF THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY THINKS THIS IS A PROPER FIT.

UH, THE PROPERTY, IF, IF, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE GENTLEMAN LIVES, BUT IT'S OVER 400 FEET AWAY.

THERE IS AN ACCESS DRIVE TO THE SOUTH OF US.

THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT DRIVE.

SO WE DO NOT BACK UP.

WE DO HAVE LANDSCAPING AS YOU COME OUT OF THE CAR WASH, WHICH WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH.

UH, AND ANYTIME YOU HAVE LANDSCAPE AND DISTANCE, IT DOES SIGNIFICANTLY CUT DOWN THE NOISE, UH, IN THAT AREA.

SO, UH, TO BE HONEST, AND, AND I CAN UNEQUIVOCALLY TELL YOU, UH, ALL OUR WATER IS CAUGHT ON SITE.

WE HAVE GREASE TRAP, INTERCEPTORS AND ALL THAT.

WE RECYCLE 30% OF OUR WATER.

I LIVE ON A WELL MYSELF WHERE I LIVE AND IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BOTHER ME TO LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS BECAUSE I KNOW EVERY BIT OF WATER THAT COMES OFF A CAR, WE DO TRAP, WE TREAT THROUGH THE GREASE TRAPS, PUT IT IN THE, UH, SEWER SYSTEM, OR WE RECYCLE THE 30% THAT DOES, UM, THAT WE CAN.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT? HANG ON ONE SECOND.

, ANYBODY UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED CARWASH BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS? I DO NOT.

I JUST SEE THAT THERE'S VACANT GROUND THAT HAS BEEN GRADED PAD READY IF YOU WOULD.

UH, AND BUT I DO NOT KNOW THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T THINK THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY'S HERE TONIGHT, BUT, UH, I JUST SEE IT'S PAD READY, UH, TO BE SOLD AT THIS POINT.

YEP.

AND I, WELL OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT, WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL OF IT.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND THIS AREA, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

SURE, SURE.

UM, IT IS HARD FOR ME TO, THIS WASN'T WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE THERE WHEN WE APPROVED IT, JUST TO BE CLEARLY HONEST WITH YOU.

SURE.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND SO I'M JUST, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO TELL YOU, UM, UPFRONT BEFORE WE VOTE THAT THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO GET MY HANDS AROUND 'CAUSE THIS ISN'T WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ON THE ORIGINAL PUD.

SO, AND WE TAKE A LOT OF TIME IN THAT ORIGINAL PUD TRYING TO SCOPE OUT AND TRY TO GET LIMITATIONS.

SURE.

THERE WE SPEND A LOT MORE TIME.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE EVOLVED IN BEING BETTER AT THAT.

BUT JUST TO, JUST TO COMMENT.

WELL, AND I CAN TELL YOU AS FAR AS THE USER WE DO WORK FOR, UH, THE OWNER OF THIS, HE IS AN IMPECCABLE YEAH.

UH, OWNER.

HIS SITES ARE IMPECCABLE, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

HIS STAFF GOES AROUND TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO TRASH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

HE ACTUALLY JUST GOT DONE WITH WHAT THEY CALL HIS SPRING SOD TOUR, UH, THAT HE GOES AROUND TO EACH AND EVERY SITE THAT HE HAS.

HE EVALUATES THEM A DEAD BUSH, PULL IT OUT, THE GRASS ISN'T GREEN, UH, WATER IT MORE, UH, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO HE IS AN IMPECCABLE USER.

UH, AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF EDMOND WOULD BE ANYTHING BUT HAPPY WITH THIS TYPE OF, UH, USER AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN IN MY COMMENTS, WE HAVE NO REFLECTION ON OWNERSHIP USERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS ANY FURTHER FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE OKAY, IF NOT LOOKING FOR A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE SECOND, FIRST AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF ONE TO FOUR.

THAT MOTION IS NOT APPROVED BUT STILL WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON SIX EIGHT OF 26.

THANK YOU.

MOVING DOWN THE AGENDA

[E. Case No. Z26-00009; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Zoning Map Amendment from “G-A” General Agriculture to “PUD Z26-00009” West Fork, located on the southeast corner of Sooner and Coffee Creek. (LTS Engineering LLC; Ward 2)]

ITEM THREE E CASE NUMBER Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 9 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO PUDZ TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 9 WEST FORK LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOONER AND COFFEE CREEK.

AND IS THE APPLICANT HERE DEPUTY? YES.

HERE.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND PRESENT PLEASE? OF COURSE.

THANK YOU.

SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUEST IS APPROXIMATELY 148 ACRES.

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ZONING AND USES INCLUDE NORTH ACROSS COPY CREEK IS ZONE AND DEVELOPED A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST IS I 35 TO THE SOUTH IS BEING DEVELOPED AS THE LEGACY AT COVE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND WEST ACROSS SOONER IS ZONED AS LIBERTY PARK EAST, A LARGE SCALE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

EDMOND'S CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CODE ACCOMMODATES LARGE SCALE MULTI-USE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS WITH A PLAN UNIT, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSED PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.

TRACK ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 45 ACRES IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT ALLOWS A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES WITH A MINIMUM BUILDABLE AREA REQUIREMENT OF 35% COMMERCIAL.

THE PUD INCLUDES A SPECIFIC LIST OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED AND USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED.

A MAXIMUM OF 560 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ALLOWED.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS FOUR STORIES OR 65 FEET OVER MOST OF TRACK ONE SIX STORY EMPLOYMENT USES ARE ALLOWED IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE TRACK NEAR THE FLOODPLAIN.

TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY ON PLATTED LOTS AND ISOLATED APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE PROHIBITED IN FAVOR OF POCKET NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE INTEGRATED INTO COMMON STREETS AND COMMON GREEN SPACES WITH COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

TRACK ONE WILL BE ACCESSED AT THREE POINTS ALONG SOONER ROAD AND ONE POINT ON COFFEE CREEK TRACK TWO IS THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS APPROXIMATELY 61 ACRES AND ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 320 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS ON A SINGLE PLATTED LOT.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS THREE STORIES OR 50 FEET ACCESS WILL BE FROM TWO POINTS ON COFFEE CREEK.

THE EDMOND PLANT CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS BOTH MIXED USE CAMPUS AND OPEN SPACE.

THE PROPOSED PUD CLEARLY SHOWS HOW RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND EMPLOYMENT USES WILL BE THOUGHTFULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE MIXED USE CAMPUS PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE AREA CATEGORIZED AS OPEN SPACE WILL REMAIN UNDEVELOPED AND THE PROPOSED PUD MEETS THE INTENT OF BOTH PLAN CATEGORIES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW OF CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? WELL, A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, ALWAYS HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UH, THE HEIGHT AND UM, IS THERE, UH, ON UH, ON TRACK ONE THE, UH, YOU SAY THAT UH, YOU CAN GO UP TO SIX, UM, YEAH, SIX STORIES.

UH, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR INTENT HERE IS TO STAY WITH THE FOUR OR UM, SO THAT WAS ONLY THE SITUATION FOR EMPLOYMENT.

SO LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, I HAD MET WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND THE HEAD OF THE EEDA AND EVEN REACHED OUT TO THE CHAMBER AND JUST SAID, HEY, IF THERE WAS A COMPANY THAT CAME ACROSS THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED YOU KNOW, 300 TO A THOUSAND JOBS THAT WOULD FIT IN FOR A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROVIDE SPACE FOR THEM.

AND UH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LOWEST AREA, I BELIEVE IT'S ALMOST LIKE 50 TO 70 FEET.

IS THAT RIGHT? BRAD? 50 TO 70 FEET LOWER THAN THE ELEVATION IS ALONG, UH, COFFEE CREEK.

UH, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO HIDE THE BUILDING BETTER TO WHERE IF YOU SAW IT FROM CENTER ROAD IT WOULD STILL LOOK ABOUT THREE STORIES AND UH, I MEAN THE INTENT THERE WAS JUST EMPLOYMENT AND TO TAKE UP LESS LAND SPACE.

BUT I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S NO INTENT TO DO ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL.

UM, I MEAN HONESTLY OVER THREE, THREE TO FOUR STORIES MAX.

OKAY.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING APARTMENTS, I MEAN UNLESS IT WAS A MIXED USE BUILDING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL OVER ONE TO TWO STORY ON A, YOU KNOW, SINGLE LOT ANYWAY.

OKAY.

UM, AND ON, UH, TRACK TWO, UH, WOULD THOSE BE LIKE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES OR WOULD THEY BE UH, WORK IN UM, WORK IN COMMERCIAL USAGE OR I'M I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE THREE STORIES BEING UH, SO CLOSE TO THE UH, THERE'S NO RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH, THERE'S NO HOMES THERE PLANNED OVER, OVER TWO STORIES.

OKAY.

I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS JUST THE LEAD, THE LANGUAGE TO LOOSE.

I MEAN IF YOU WANTED THAT REMOVED TO TWO STORY, I MEAN I THINK WE'D BE AGREEABLE TO THAT.

YEAH.

I MEAN THERE'S NO DESIRE FOR THREE STORY THERE.

OKAY.

HEY MR. LAMBETH ON THE TRACK A SO KINDA GIMME, I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHAT IT WOULD BE.

I'M TRACK ONE.

I'M SORRY, JUST KIDDING.

WHAT WHAT IT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE, 'CAUSE IT SAYS YOU DON'T ALLOW, UM, ISOLATED APARTMENT COMPLEX, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT OR SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

SO WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL LOOK LIKE THERE? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION? UH, POCKET NEIGHBORHOOD, WILLARD PARK, CARLTON LANDING, LIBERTY PARK.

BUT THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, I MEAN I WANT, I'M I'M SEEING LIMITATIONS.

I'M CURIOUS.

ZERO LOT LINE.

OKAY.

UM,

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CORRECT? THERE'S NO MINIMUM MAXIMUM THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? NO, I MEAN, AND BETWEEN YOU AND I WITH JUST, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BEING RESPONSIBLE, I MEAN I HAVE NO DESIRE TO HAVE MORE THAN 360 UNITS IN THAT TRACK.

SURE.

I MEAN WE WENT OFF 16 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON WHAT THE CRITERION WAS AND MIXED USE CAMPUS.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WANNA WAIT TILL CITY COUNCIL TO GO, HEY, WE'LL DUMP THIS OFF.

SURE.

BUT I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU PUBLICLY, I MEAN THERE'S NO DESIRE TO HAVE MORE THAN 300 TO 360 UNITS MAX EVER ON THAT ENTIRE TRACK.

YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND I SAY THAT 'CAUSE IT ALMOST FEELS A LITTLE BIT CONTRADICTORY THAT YOU HAVE NO ISOLATED TRADITIONAL SEG FAMILY VERSUS THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE TYPE OF HOMES.

THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING, ARE THEY CONTRADICTING EACH OTHER? I WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO APPROVE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE INTENT IS IS TO, I MEAN, AND I'M SURE KIM WOULD AGREE, IT'S JUST TO TRY TO GIVE IT THE LOOK OF NOT A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

NOT A PLOTTED LOT SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PLOTTED LOT NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE HOPE WAS IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS RESIDENTIAL OR APARTMENT OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT ISOLATED.

IT DIDN'T HAVE FENCES, YOU KNOW, COMMON GREEN SPACE, COMMON GAME FIELDS, COMMON LANDSCAPING, COMMON SHARED STREETS, AND THAT'S IT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I, I DO WANT TO ADD BECAUSE I READ THE MEMO AND I WAS LIKE, WELL THAT'S WRONG.

BUT MR. BRIAN CLEARED IT UP AND EVERYTHING HE READ WAS CORRECT.

TRACK ONE, WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT ON OURSELVES TO PAY FOR THE, UH, EDMOND TRAIL.

UM, WE WERE GONNA DO A, AN AS-BUILT WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS WHERE TO LAY THAT OUT BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS NO LIKE EXACT DIMENSIONS OR EXACTLY WHERE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO.

UM, SO WE WERE JUST GONNA COME OFF OF THE FLOODPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST SELLING POINTS TO GROUPS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IS THE TRAIL SYSTEM, THE CONNECTEDNESS TO GET YOU FROM DOWNTOWN INTO LAKE ARCADIA.

AND SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, I PUT THAT ON US TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER.

AND I MEAN THAT'S JUST SOMETHING BACK I WANT TO GET TO THE CITY OF EDMOND.

I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE PUBLIC PARKING AREAS AND AMENITIES WITHIN TRACKS ONE AND TWO THAT IS OPEN TO THE ENTIRE CITY OF EDMOND.

NOT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST USERS WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

'CAUSE THESE ARE NOT PRIVATE BLOCKED OFF COMMUNITIES.

AND THEN IN TRACK TWO, THOSE ARE PRIVATE STREETS MAINTAINED BY THE OWNER OF TRACK TWO, BUT THEY'RE PUBLIC ACCESS.

IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY OF SAYING IT? MORE OR LESS.

OKAY.

SO JUST JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRIES TO HELP TO SAVE BEEN OUT FINANCIALLY LONG TERM.