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[1. Call to Order of the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
AND IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK HERE AFTER A MONTH OFF, UM, MONTH OF JULY, WE TYPICALLY ONLY HOLD ONE MEETING.WE'VE MOVED IT THIS YEAR TO THE FOURTH MONDAY, UM, WHICH I THINK WORKED WELL FOR STAFF AND COUNCIL TO GET SOME VACATION TIME IN.
UM, WE'RE GONNA START OUT TONIGHT WITH ITEM NUMBER
[2. Presentations:]
TWO, A PRESENTATION.IT'S A RECOGNITION OF SHEILA BRI, CONTROLLER FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, AND THE ENTIRE FINANCE TEAM ON A RECENT ACHIEVEMENT AND AWARDS.
MS. PANIS, ARE YOU COMING FORWARD AND WHO ALL ARE YOU BRINGING WITH YOU? THE ENTIRE TEAM OR AS MUCH OF THE TEAM AS POSSIBLE? YOU USE THAT MICROPHONE AND BEFORE YOU START, I'LL JUST KICK IT OFF BY SAYING I'M GONNA BRAG ON SHEILA A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WITHIN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, SHEILA'S BEEN RECOGNIZED AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL WITH THREE DISTINGUISHED ACHIEVEMENTS.
FIRST, SHE'S BEEN NAMED THE OKLAHOMA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE BOARD LIAISON TO THE OKLAHOMA TAX COMMISSION.
SECOND, SHE'S BEEN NAMED TO THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AS THE EXECUTIVE TO THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP BOARD.
AND THEN SHE'S ALSO BEEN AWARDED A-G-F-O-A RECOGNITION FOR OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVICE.
SO THAT'S JUST SHEILA, AND WE GOT A WHOLE LOT GOING ON WITH STAFF.
SO I'M GONNA LET YOU KIND OF TAKE IT FROM HERE AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, TAKE SOME TIME AND RECOGNIZE MY, MY TEAM AND SHEILA, COME ON OVER.
SHEILA HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
SHE STARTED ARCADIA LAKE AND SHE IS NOW OUR CONTROLLER AND SHE'S, UH, ACHIEVED HER CCP, CFPO.
IT'S A, UH, SHE'S A CERTIFIED, UH, PUBLIC OFFICER, SO IN FINANCE, SO WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE SHEILA AND, UM, UNDER SHEILA'S DIRECTION, SOME OF MY TEAM HAS COME TO, WE HAVE MATT NEWCOMB AND MADISON HENDERSON, AND THEY'RE PART OF THE FINANCE TEAM.
WE HAVE, I GUESS, 11 ALL TOGETHER, BUT, UH, WE ACHIEVED THE TRIPLE CROWN AGAIN THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S, UH, THE AWARD FROM THE GFOA, WHICH IS THE GOVERNMENTAL FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE HAD THE DISTINGUISHED AWARD FOR OUR CONSOLIDATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR 39 YEARS IN A ROW.
AND THEN, UH, UNDER SHEILA ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE GOT OUR FIRST BUDGET AWARD FROM THE GFOA.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLICATION THAT WE DO CALLED THE PR, THE POPULAR CONSOLIDATE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
AND WE'VE HAD, IF WE GET ALL THREE OF THOSE, WE HAVE THE TRIPLE CROWN.
SO WE'VE HAD THAT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW.
AND I JUST WANTED TO, TO THANK MY TEAM AND THANK SHEILA FOR PUTTING THE TIME INTO OUR CITY.
[3. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the City Hall lobby. Please note that members of the City Council cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]
CITIZENS COMMENTS.WE'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE SIGN UP TONIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH NICOLE MEREDITH, PLEASE LET ME REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU ADDRESS US.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS NICOLE MEREDITH, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
I AM HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE EDMOND IS AT RISK FOR LOSING BOTH REVENUE AND ITS REPUTATION AS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR COMPETITIVE SWIMMING.
NOT BECAUSE OF OUR ATHLETES OR COACHES, BUT BECAUSE OF HOW OF ONE OF OUR MOST VALUABLE AQUATIC FACILITIES IS BEING MANAGED.
THE MITCH PARK, EDMOND SCHOOLS AQUATIC CENTER IS ONE OF ONLY TWO FACILITIES OF ITS CALIBER IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, YET IT IS BECOMING LESS ATTRACTIVE AS A COMPETITION VENUE.
THIS PAST WEEKEND, MY FAMILY TRAVELED TO JINX FOR THE OKLAHOMA STATE SWIM MEET.
DURING OUR STAY, WE RENTED A HOME, SHOPPED AT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND DINED AT AREA RESTAURANTS.
SPENDING MORE THAN $2,500 FOR THE WEEKEND.
THERE WERE 356 SWIMMERS COMPETING AT THIS EVENT.
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT EXTENDED FAR BEYOND MY FAMILY.
THIS IS REVENUE THAT COULD HAVE STAYED HERE IN EDMOND.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE OKLAHOMA SWIMMING ASSOCIATION NO LONGER USES MITCH PARK BECAUSE OF ITS ONGOING AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES, AND OUR CITY IS LOSING OPPORTUNITIES AS A RESULT.
FOR YEARS, THE FACILITY HAS STRUGGLED WITH AN UNRELIABLE GEOTHERMAL HVAC SYSTEM THAT CANNOT KEEP UP WITH OKLAHOMA'S CHANGING SEASONS.
EVEN DURING WINTER MEET SPECTATORS OFTEN BRING PERSONAL FANS AND WEAR SUMMER CLOTHING JUST TO STAY COMFORTABLE IN THOSE STANDS.
BEYOND THE CLIMATE ISSUES, THE FACILITY SHOWS SIGNS OF NEGLECT.
RESTROOMS ARE OFTEN UNCLEAN STALL DOORS, FREQUENTLY MALFUNCTION, AND THE POOL DECK REQUIRES ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
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REDUCED THE FACILITY'S ABILITY TO HOST SUCCESSFUL COMPETITIONS SPACE ONCE USED.AS FOR LIFEGUARD LOCKERS, STORAGE AND OFFICIAL HOSPITALITY AND MEET OPERATIONS HAS NOW BEEN CONVERTED INTO OFFICES AND A LOUNGE.
ELIMINATING AREAS THAT ARE STANDARD FOR HOSTING COMPETITIVE SWIM MEETS.
THESE CHANGES MAKE ADMIN LESS COMPETITIVE AS A HOST CITY.
BEYOND THE FACILITY ITSELF, I HAVE HEARD CONSISTENT CONCERNS FROM COACHES, OFFICIALS, SWIMMERS, AND PARENTS ABOUT CON CONFRONTATIONAL INTERACTIONS, INCONSISTENT COMMUNICATION AND LACK OF COLLABORATION WITH EDMUND PUBLIC SCHOOL'S AQUATIC DIRECTOR SLASH FACILITIES COORDINATOR, SEVERAL OFFICIALS HAVE SHARED THEY'RE RELUCTANT TO OFFICIATE MEETS AT MITCH PARK BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCES.
MOST RECENTLY, THE DECISION TO CLOSE THE AQUATIC FACILITY BEGINNING EVERY DAY AT NOON HAS REDUCED PUBLIC ACCESS, DISRUPTED PROGRAMMING, AND CUT HOURS FOR STAFF THAT DEPEND ON THOSE WAGES.
THESE ONGOING ISSUES RAISE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS COMMUNITY ASSET IS BEING MANAGED.
IN FEBRUARY, EDMOND VOTERS APPROVED A $136.35 MILLION SCHOOL BOND PACKAGE THAT INCLUDED FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MITCH PARK.
TAXPAYERS HAVE MADE THE INVESTMENT IN EXPECTING THIS FACILITY TO BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED, RESPONSIBLY MANAGED, AND CONTINUE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AT A HIGH STANDARD.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT PLACING BLAME ON ONE ORGANIZATION, IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, COLLABORATION, AND PROTECTING A PUBLIC INVESTMENT THAT BENEFITS OUR STUDENTS, OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO ENCOURAGE COLLABORATION AMONG EDMUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE YMCA AND ENSURE THE PROMISE FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS MOVE FORWARD TO HELP RESTORE MITCH PARK AS A FACILITY.
OUR COMMUNITY CAN ONCE AGAIN BE PROUD TO SHOWCASE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
NEXT WE'RE GONNA HAVE JEREMY TURNER.
I'M DR. JEREMY TURNER, 600 BRIDGEVIEW PLACE.
MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN EDMOND FOR JUST OVER THREE YEARS.
WE HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SWIMMING COMMUNITY AS SWIMMERS SWIM PARENTS, AND IS AN OFFICIAL SINCE THE FIRST DAY, THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AT MITCH PARK HAS BEEN BROKEN AT SOME LEVEL EVERY DAY OF THAT TIME, DESPITE TAXPAYERS SPECIFICALLY FUNDING FACILITY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS FOR MITCH PARK.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME SUCH ISSUES, UH, AS WE ARE HAVING TODAY HAVE OCCURRED.
THE FIRST OF MY TWO ASKS OF YOU IS THIS, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE PROBLEM IS ADDRESSED WITH A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
AS PREVIOUSLY, IT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE WHEN THE WINTER WEATHER COOLS.
MY FAMILY ATTENDED A SWIM MEET IN JINX THIS WEEKEND AS WELL.
BETWEEN LODGING, DINING, SHOPPING AND PARTICIPATION, WE POURED MORE THAN $1,700 INTO THE JINX ECONOMY.
TODAY, THERE IS A SWIM MEET IN NORMAN.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT MITCH PARK, BUT THE UNSAFE CONDITIONS FORCED A VENUE CHANGE.
WHILE TODAY'S MEET IS SHORTER AND SMALLER, THE MONEY BEING SPENT IS GOING INTO NORMAN'S ECONOMY INSTEAD OF OURS.
FAILURE TO DEAL WITH THE MITCH PARK FACILITY ISSUES, RISKS, FUTURE EVENTS AND THE ASSOCIATED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
IT ALSO DEPRIVES THE OKLAHOMA SWIMMING COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THE TAX PAYING VOTERS OF THE PEOPLE OF EDMOND, OF WHAT SHOULD BE THE PREMIER FACILITY IN THE STATE.
WHILE THE AIR CONDITIONING PROBLEMS ARE THE MOST PRESSING AND EGREGIOUS, I BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE MITCH PARK FACILITIES AND THEIR MANAGEMENT.
I IMPLORE YOU, IMPLORE YOU TO BE CURIOUS.
DO NOT RELY ON OFFICIAL RESPONSES.
ASK THE SWIMMERS, ASK THEIR TAX PAYING PARENTS.
ASK THE COACHES OF THE CLUB TEAMS. WHAT YOU HEAR MAY BE EYE-OPENING.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM RITA MILLS.
I DIDN'T WRITE THAT VERY WELL.
WELL, RITA, IF I'D KNOWN IT WAS YOU, I WOULD'VE KNOWN WHAT THE LAST NAME WAS.
IT'S KIND OF SCRIBBLED ON MY FORM UP HERE.
UM,
AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PROPOSE A VERY SMALL LITTLE REMEDY FOR THAT FLOODING OF SEVERAL HOMES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT DRIVE.
IT WOULD, I'M PROPOSING THAT YOU, THAT THE CITY GRANT AND EASEMENT ALONG THE CITY PROPERTY THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THOSE, THOSE AFFECTED HOMES, THAT PROPERTY RISES VERY RAPIDLY, 10 TO 20 FEET ABOVE, UM, THAT ENTIRE LINE OF HOMES,
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WHICH IS FLOODED.IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO GO BACK IN AND DO SOME RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE GRADING ALONG THAT EASEMENT, WHICH WOULD COST THE DEVELOPER A WHOLE LOT LESS, WELL, PROBABLY LESS THAN HE SAVED BY NOT INSTALLING A RETAINING WALL ALONG THAT SLOPE PRIOR TO SELLING THE LOTS.
YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO, TO REQUIRE THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, WOODLAND PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE AT LEAST HAS A PROBLEM WITH PONDS.
IT APPEARS THAT THE BOTH NORTH PONDS HAVE FILLED WITH SO MUCH SILT THAT IN NORMAL CONDITIONS, NORMAL DAYS, THE WATER LEVEL IN THE PONDS IS ALREADY AT THE OVERFLOW, LEAVING NOTHING LEFT FOR FLOOD CONTROL, LEAVING NO SPACE LEFT FOR FLOOD CONTROL.
NOW, I'M, I WAS TOLD THAT I COULDN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU HAVE A WOODLAND PARK PHASE EIGHT PROPOSAL THAT IS IN YOUR GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE THE PROBLEM ON BEACH GROVE DRIVE UNLESS THEIR DRAINAGE ADDRESSES IT AND I COULD NOT GET THE DRAINAGE.
UM, I HAVE TALKED WITH KEN, UM, AND HE'S ENCOURAGED ME TO COME IN AND, AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND PROCESS A LITTLE BETTER.
BUT I AM ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO MOVE THAT WOODLAND PARK EIGHT OUT OF YOUR GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS AND INTO A PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CAN GET A COMPLETE PICTURE OF HOW THE, THE, THE DEVELOPER IN THE PAST AND EVIDENTLY THIS NEW DEVELOPER ARE GONNA BRING THIS PROJECT INTO COMPLIANCE.
WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR? WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? 10.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THOSE OF YOU WHO SPOKE ON THE, THE MITCH PARK POOL TO HANG AROUND FOR ITEM.
I BELIEVE IT IS 11 F ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
SO WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM
[4. Appointments and Reappointments:]
NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.COULD I ENTERTAIN A MOTION? ANYONE? I'VE GOT A MOTION.
[A. Case No. Z18-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4088 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located on the North Side of Covell Road, East of Sooner Road, from “PUD Z18-00005” Planned Unit Development - Legacy at Covell to “PUD Z18-00005” Planned Unit Development - Legacy At Covell - Second Amendment and Providing an Effective Date. (Covell 35 Development, LLC; Ward 2)]
CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. ITEM FIVE A IS CASE NUMBER Z ONE EIGHT DASH 0 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 8 8 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COVE ROAD.AND WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THAT FOR TWO WEEKS.
IS THAT CORRECT MR. MOORE? UH, UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, UH, UH, THAT WOULD BE AUGUST, UH, AUGUST 10TH.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? I WOULD.
I MOVE, UH, ITEM FIVE A BE CONTINUED TO AUGUST 10TH.
[B. Case No. Z26-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4089 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located on the South Side of Covell Road, West of Sooner Road, from “PUD Z22-000025” Planned Unit Development - Covell Crossing to “PUD Z26-00001” Planned Unit Development - Club Car Wash and Providing an Effective Date. (Club Car Wash Operating, LLC; Ward 2)]
NUMBER Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 1.PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 8 9.
REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON SOUTH SIDE OF VALE ROAD.
THAT ONE ALSO HAS BEEN ASKED IF WE WOULD CONTINUE IT TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE ITEM FIVE B.
CONTINUE TO AUGUST TEN SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST.
YOUR VOTE IS OUR COMPUTER FALLING ASLEEP ON US OVER THERE? THERE WE GO.
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ITEM FIVE C,[C. Case No. Z26-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4093 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located on the North Side of Thatcher West of the Railroad from “A” Single-Family to “PUD Z26-00005” 101 W Thatcher and Providing an Effective Date. (Albahadily; Ward 1)]
CASE NUMBER Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 9 3 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THATCHER, WEST OF THE RAILROAD FROM A SINGLE FAMILY TO PUDZ TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 5 1 0 1 WEST THATCHER.AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 6,900 SQUARE FEET.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THATCHER, JUST WEST OF THE BNSF RAIL CORRIDOR.
ZONING AND USES INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON ALL SIDES.
TO THE EAST IS A DUPLEX AND TO THE SOUTH IS UNDEVELOPED TO ACCOMMODATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, EDMUND'S CODE OFTEN REQUIRES A PLAIN UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SUCH AS THE ONE BEING PROPOSED.
THE PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE USE IS LIMITED TO ONE DUPLEX RESIDENCE ACCESS WILL BE FROM THATCHER.
ALL PUBLIC UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE.
THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS CATEGORY SUPPORTS A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, INCLUDING DUPLEXES AS PROPOSED IN THIS PUD AND SERVES AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN MORE INTENSE DOWNTOWN AREAS AND SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.
BASED ON THESE CONDITIONS, THE PROPOSED PUD CONFORMS TO THE ADMIN PLAN AT THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON JULY 7TH, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT TONIGHT? YES, SIR.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? NO, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I'D MOVE TO APPROVE.
I I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[D. Case No. Z26-00010; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4094 Rezoning Certain Property Addressed as 230 E Lincoln Avenue from “A” Single Family Dwelling District to “PUD Z26-00010” Hirn Corner Planned Unit Development and Providing an Effective Date. (Hunter Hirn; Ward 1)]
D.CASE NUMBER Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 0 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 9 4 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY ADDRESSED AT AS TWO 30 EAST LINCOLN AVENUE FROM A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT TO PUDZ 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 0 HEARN CORNER PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE MR. BRYAN? YES, SIR.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS 9,100 SQUARE FEET.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LINCOLN AND JACKSON.
NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH AND EAST ARE ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL PUDS AND DEVELOPED WITH DUPLEXES TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE ZONE FOUR AND DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES TO ACCOMMODATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, EDMONDS CODE OFTEN REQUIRES A PLAN UNIT, DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SUCH AS THE ONE BEING PROPOSED.
THE PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE USE WOULD BE LIMITED TO TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED.
ACCESS WILL BE FROM LINCOLN VIA PRIVATE DRIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.
THE PUBLIC ALLEY ACCESSING JACKSON WILL BE IMPROVED BY THE APPLICANT.
ALL PUBLIC UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE.
THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS CATEGORY SUPPORTS A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, INCLUDING DU DUPLEXES AS PROPOSED IN THIS PUD DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CATEGORY.
SHOULD SUPPORT THE NEARBY CAMPUS BY PROVIDING A HIGH LEVEL OF BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, AND A STRONG CONNECTION BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD CATEGORY.
BASED ON THESE CONDITIONS, THE PROPOSED PUD CONFORMS TO THE EDMOND PLAN AT THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON JULY 7TH, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SIR.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? NO, SIR.
QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SCENE NONE.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOVE TO APPROVE.
[E. Public Hearing and Consideration of Acceptance of the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Federal Fiscal Year (FFY) 2026 Annual Action Plan. (Citywide)]
E.CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, MS. BATTERSON.
CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
I'LL GIVE A LITTLE MINUTE TO GET MY PRESENTATION UP.
UM, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR, UH, 2026.
JUST A REMINDER THAT CDBG IS OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
THAT IS FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT OR HUD FOR JURISDICTIONS OVER
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A POPULATION OF 50,000.OUR FUNDING ALLOCATION IS BASED ON A FORMULA THAT IT'S CALCULATED, UM, BY THE NUMBER OF LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS, THE AGE OF OUR HOUSING, STOCK POVERTY LEVELS AND THE HOUSING CONDITION AND MORE.
THE NUMBER ONE GOAL, OUR NATIONAL OBJECTIVE OR TO THAT DETERMINES OUR ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES IS TO PREVENTION OF HOMELESSNESS.
ALL THE FUNDING HAS TO BENEFIT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
OUR LMI, UM, IT REQUIRES US TO USE, UM, OVER 51% OF OUR FUNDING TOWARDS, UH, THOSE THAT ARE 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR A MI.
SO ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE, UM, SERVE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE TO BE BELOW THAT 80%.
AND I HAVE INCOME LIMITS HERE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I'LL GO OVER.
IT'S TO AID IN THE PREVENTION OF SLIM OR BLIGHT AND IT HAS TO MEET A NEED OF URGENCY.
I TELL PEOPLE THAT, UM, RESIDENTS, UM, APPLY FOR OUR FUNDING OR NEED OUR RESOURCES WHEN THEY'RE IN A MOMENT OF CRISIS.
UM, AND THAT'S CAN BE A VARIETY OF THINGS.
UM, ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES ARE HOUSING REHABILITATION AS WELL AS OTHER HOUSING ACTIVITIES, HOME BUYERS ASSISTANCE, REMOVAL OF HAZARDOUS TREES, AS WELL AS OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES, WHICH IS OUR NONPROFITS.
THESE ARE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS THAT HIT ANYTHING THAT HIT LOW OD INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
SO THESE CENSUS TRACKS HAVE MORE THAN 51% OF THOSE AREA MEDIAN INCOME INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE BELOW 80%.
IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, UM, BUT IT IS, UM, FROM KELLY TO DANFORTH.
UM, 15TH, A LITTLE BIT OVER TO RANKIN, AND THEN IT, UH, GOES TO THE EAST OVER TO BRYANT.
IT DOES EXCLUDE THE KINGSTON, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD THERE TO THAT NORTHEAST UM, AREA.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T SERVE ALL RESIDENTS OF EDMOND THAT QUALIFY UNDER THAT 80%.
THIS IS JUST THOSE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS THAT HUD HAS DESIGNATED THAT WE CAN USE.
I WANTED TO START OFF TONIGHT BY KIND OF GIVING YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE, WHAT THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT OVER THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, THIS IS LOOKED BY, LOOKED AT BY THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE.
THEY HELP US FORMULATE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS ACTIVITIES FOR THE YEAR.
ACCORDING TO THE RECENT, UM, AMERICAN COMMUNITY, UH, SURVEY EDMOND'S POPULATION IS A LITTLE BIT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
DO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN POPULATION.
UM, 16% OF THOSE ARE OVER THE AGE OF 60, 26% OR UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 5,500 VETERANS AND 70% OF OUR HOUSING IS OWNER OCCUPIED, UM, WITH THE MEDIAN VALUE OF OVER 351,000 FINANCIAL STABILITY.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE POPULATION OF WHAT IS MAKES UP THE LOW TO AMOUNT INCOME INDIVIDUALS, ONLY 8% OF OUR INDIVIDUALS ARE BELOW THAT POVERTY STANDARD.
AND SO A FAMILY OF FOUR MAKES LESS THAN 33 PER THOUSAND PER YEAR.
OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR 2024 WAS OVER 103,000.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE THAT NEED OUR RESOURCES, I REALLY KIND OF STRESS THAT IT'S BETWEEN THAT 30% AND 80% OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR OUR RESOURCES.
HERE ARE A COUPLE OF MAPS THAT WE'VE PUT IN OUR ACTION PLAN.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS HOUSING COST BURDEN.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING COST BURDEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT 30% OF YOUR INCOME THAT YOU SPEND IS ON HOUSING.
SO THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE SPENDING ABOVE 30%.
SO THEY'RE WHAT WE CALL HOW THEY'RE BURDENED BY THEIR HOUSING COST.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING COSTS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RENT OR MORTGAGE, UTILITY COST, UM, INSURANCE AND TAXES.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COSTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE DARK PURPLE ARE THOSE THAT ARE PAYING ABOVE 30%.
UM, AND THESE, THIS ALSO INCLUDES RENT, RENT RENTERS.
SO THAT AREA AROUND UCO DOESN'T IS A HIGH RENTAL AREA.
UM, AND THEN OTHER AREAS, UM, UM, ANOTHER HIGH AREA IS THOSE TO THE EAST OR I MEAN SORRY, WEST AS WELL AS AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND TO THE SOUTH.
SO A GOOD PORTION OF OUR CDBG AREA, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER CENSUS TRACKS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO POP UP WITH MORE HOUSING COST BURDEN.
THIS MAP ALSO CORRELATES TO OUR LOW INCOME HOUSES HOUSEHOLDS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE AGAIN AROUND THE UCO AREA, AROUND OUR DOWNTOWN AREA TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH.
UM, AND THIS IS ALSO OUR AGING HOUSING.
UM, THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE OLDER.
UH, EVEN MY AREA THAT SOUTH, UH, SOUTH PART OF EDMOND BUILT IN THE 1970S AROUND EDMOND MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, SO THIS ALL CORRELATES INTO WHAT OUR ALLOCATION IS ANNUALLY.
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REQUIREMENTS CHANGE ANNUALLY, UM, AROUND THE APRIL MAY TIMEFRAME.UM, THESE DID REDUCE, UM, IT'S BASED ON A FORMULA AGAIN.
UM, SO, UH, FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR, UH, YOU HAVE TO MAKE BELOW THAT $77,850 TO QUALIFY FOR ANY OF OUR SERVICES.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES PUBLIC SERVICES.
UM, IF YOU'RE GETTING ASSISTANCE FROM ONE OF OUR NONPROFITS THAT WE, UH, ALLOCATE FUNDING TO, UM, AGAIN, LOW, LOW MODERATE INCOME, IS THAT 80 51 TO 80%, UH, VERY LOW, 31 TO 50%.
SO THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN IS, UM, OUT OF OUR FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATION PLAN.
LAST YEAR, I BROUGHT OUR NEW FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATION PLAN FORWARD TO YOU.
UM, THAT IS DATA DRIVEN, UM, THAT MET ON GOLDS, UH, THAT WE WORKED ON LAST YEAR.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR, UH, OF, OF THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN.
SO WE CONTINUE WITH OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
WE HAVE FIVE GOALS AND STRATEGIES THAT WE SET, SET LAST YEAR.
UM, THIS YEAR, UH, THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE FOCUSES ON, UM, AROUND THREE OF OUR FIVE GOALS WITH CERTAIN STRATEGIES, UM, WHICH IS WHAT THEY, UM, UH, APPROVED CERTAIN FUNDING TO GO TOWARDS.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
GOAL ONE IS TO ELIMINATE BARRIERS AND APPROVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE OR ENERGY EFFICIENT AND FAIR HOUSING.
UM, THE STRATEGIES OUT OF THIS IS TO MAINTAIN A CURRENT OAK OWNER OCCUPIED THROUGH OUR HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
THAT IS OUR BIGGEST PROGRAM AND THE ONE THAT WE GET THE MOST, UM, RETURN ON INVESTMENT, UM, TO HELP THOSE THAT MIGHT BE IN A RESIDENTIAL CODE COMPLIANCE ASSISTANCE.
WE HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ON SOME HOMES THAT HAVE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND TRYING TO ASSIST THOSE IF THEY QUALIFY.
UM, AND ALSO ARE WE PARTNER WITH METRO FAIR HOUSING ON FAIR HOUSING AND, AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY GOAL TWO, SUPPLEMENT FUNDING FOR OUR PUBLIC AND SOCIAL SERVICES.
I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT OUR NONPROFITS THAT PARTNER WITH US TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY.
AS WELL AS, UM, AS WELL AS PARTNER WITH US ON OUR EDMOND CONNECT, UH, COALITION THAT WE RECENTLY STARTED.
ALL OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ATTEND THAT MEETING ONCE A MONTH.
AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO NETWORK AND GET MORE RESOURCES OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
GOAL THREE, UM, IS ABOUT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE DID NOT ALLOCATE ANY FUNDING TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF OUR REDUCED, UH, ALLOCATION.
GOAL FOUR IS TO SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY.
AND WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGH THE REMOVAL OF HARMFUL TREES THAT MIGHT BE HAVE DIED OR DECAYING.
AND WE WORK WITH URBAN FORESTRY AND IDENTIFYING THOSE AND IF THE RESIDENT QUALIFIES, WE CAN REMOVE THAT TREE.
AND THEN GOAL FIVE, UM, EXPANSION OF RESOURCES.
AGAIN, OUR EDMOND CONNECT, UM, COALITION THAT WE HELP HOLD, UM, HELPS IN, UH, CONNECTING ALL OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND NONPROFITS TOGETHER, AS WELL AS PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO THOSE LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS TRYING TO PREVENT THAT HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IS A COMMON, UH, ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.
SO FOR THIS YEAR, WE RECEIVED AN ALLOCATION OF 467,780.
THIS IS APPROXIMATELY $35,000 LESS THAN LAST YEAR.
UM, IT IS BASED ON A FORMULA, UM, THAT HAS THE NUMBER OF OUR, UH, THOSE THAT ARE IN POVERTY, OUR AGING HOUSING STOCK.
AND AS YOU SAW, WE ONLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 8% THAT ARE CLASSIFIED, WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IN POVERTY.
UM, SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT OUR ALLOCATION WAS REDUCED.
WE ARE USING APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, UH, MEANING THAT WE'RE USUALLY A YEAR BEHIND IN WHAT WE'RE USING FUNDING WISE.
UM, THAT, UM, SO WE'RE PULLING ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM IT JUST SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE ARE WITH OUR PROGRAMMING.
OUR NUMBER ONE PROGRAM AND THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK, AS I SAY, IS OUR HOUSING OWNER-OCCUPIED REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT.
SO THIS COULD BE A DA ACCESSIBILITY WHERE WE GO IN AND WE ALLOW A SENIOR TO AGE IN THEIR HOME IN PLACE, AS WE DID WITH A RESIDENT THIS YEAR, UM, BY DOING AN A DA ACCESSIBLE BATHROOM BY DOING RAMPS TO THE FRONT OF HIS HOUSE.
UM, WE ALSO DO KICKED OFF LAST YEAR A WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM WHERE WE WENT IN AND DID AN ASSESSMENT ON THE HOME TO SEE IF THEY WERE, UM, HAD ANY LEAKS OUT OF WINDOWS OR DOORS.
AND OUT OF THAT PROGRAM, UM, WE HAVE SERVED SEVERAL HOMES, UM, DOING WINDOW PACKAGES, REPLACING SEALS ON DOORS, UPGRADING THE HVAC UNIT, UM, OR EVEN REPLACING A, UM, HOT WATER TANK WITH A HIGH EFFICIENCY HOT WATER TANK.
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ON AVERAGE WE'RE SAVING ACROSS, UH, I HAVE SIX HOMES THAT WE'VE HELPED JUST THIS YEAR IN THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM.UM, AND THIS IS FROM LAST OCTOBER.
UM, THEY HAVE SAVED ON AVERAGE $51 AND 88 CENTS ON THEIR UTILITY BILLS.
AND THE AVERAGE COST OF THE REHABILITATION ON THEIR HOME WAS APPROXIMATELY 20,000.
UM, SO WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING AT THOSE THAT QUALIFIED ON THE WEATHERIZATION.
UM, IT IS THE, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT ARE REQUESTING THIS SERVICE IS OUR SENIORS POPULATION.
UM, WE'VE HAD A FEW SINGLE PARENT, UM, AS WELL AND A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT NEED ACCESSIBILITY.
UM, WE DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE WAITING LIST RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD TO PUT ON A LIST UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER.
UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE COMING TO THE END OF OUR FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR AND OUR FUNDS ARE DEPLETING.
UM, BUT WE'VE USED IT TO THE MAX.
WE'VE SERVED 20 PE 20 RESIDENTS SO FAR ON OUR HOUSING REHABILITATION.
AND I'LL BE BACK IN NOVEMBER TO KIND OF TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS PAST YEAR.
BUT OUR WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM, UM, HAS BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL IN, UM, HELPING PEOPLE WITH THE UTILITY COSTS.
AS YOU MIGHT NOTICE THIS YEAR, UH, CPC DECIDED NOT TO FUND OR HAVE US MOVE FORWARD WITH HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE.
UM, IN THE PAST WE HAVE MAYBE OFFERED HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE TO ONE OR TWO FAMILIES.
UM, THEY GET A BIGGER BANG FOR THEIR BUCK BY GOING AFTER THE AN OA GRANT OR ANOTHER GRANT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
SO CARC THIS YEAR, APPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH THE CAR PROCESS AND APPLIED FOR FUNDING AND CARC APPROVED THAT FUNDING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
SO WE'LL BE PARTNERING WITH OTHER COMMUNITY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP PEOPLE GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, UH, TO OWN A HOME IN EDMOND.
ALSO, OUR PR THAT PRICE THAT YOU POINT THAT YOU NEED TO BE AT IN EDMOND FOR AFFORDABILITY OR AT OBTAINABILITY UNDER THE CDBG PROGRAM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF H HOMES AVAILABLE.
UM, AND SO THEY FELT THAT INSTEAD OF PUTTING $50,000 TO HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE TO RATHER PUT IT THROUGH OUR REHAB, UM, PROGRAMMING WOULD KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES AND MAINTAIN THE HOUSING STOCK THAT WE HAVE.
WE ARE DOING NEIGHBORHOOD TREE PROGRAM AGAIN.
UM, AGAIN, THE COLLABORATION WITH URBAN FORESTRY.
UM, WE HAVE ALREADY EXPENDED ALL THE FUNDS UNDER ARE THIS PROGRAM FOR THIS YEAR.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE ANOTHER WAITING LIST OF ABOUT 10, 10 RESIDENTS THAT ARE, ARE NEEDING TO HAVE A TREE REMOVED.
UM, ON AVERAGE THOSE TREE REMOVALS AROUND $2,500 A PIECE, DEPENDING ON THE CALIBER OF THE TREE.
UM, FAIR HOUSING, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COLLABORATION WITH METRO FAIR HOUSING.
UM, IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF HUDS.
SO THEY WILL BE GETTING, UM, 10,000.
AND THEN GENERAL ADMIN ADMINISTRATION THAT DOES PAY FOR ALL OUR ADMINISTRATION COSTS, UM, TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS STAFF MEMBERS.
UM, THERE IS A MAX ON, ON ADMINISTRATION COSTS.
AGAIN, I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH ABOUT ALL OUR NONPROFITS.
UM, SO WE WILL BE GIVING FUNDING.
UH, THEY HAD A CHOICE AND THEY DID HERE ON THESE FOUR ORGANIZATIONS.
CAME AND APPLIED FOR CDBG, UM, ALLOCATION.
UM, IT WAS ALMOST DISCUSSED OF NOT DOING PUBLIC SERVICES THIS YEAR, JUST SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT EXTRA MONEY OVER IN OUR REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
BUT, UM, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THESE FOUR NONPROFITS AS THEY PROVIDE SERVICES.
NOT ONLY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT UM, EDMOND MOBILE MEALS WITH OUR SENIORS.
THEY'VE DELIVERED ON AVERAGE 400 MEALS A WEEK.
UM, AND SO, UM, TO PROVIDE THAT EXTRA, UH, FUNDING FOR THEM.
PROJECT 66 IS OUR FOOD PANTRY AND THEN EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL FOUNDATION, UM, THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING TO THEM GOES TO THE FOOD PANTRY THAT THEY STOCK AT THE MAIN, UH, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR FSAC.
UM, THESE, YOU KNOW, JUST ALONE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 3,500 INDIVIDUALS, IF NOT MORE, THEY ALWAYS EXCEED WHAT THEY ESTIMATE THEY'RE GONNA ASSIST.
UM, AND SO THE 15% THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE TO THEM I THINK IS WELL WORTH.
WE HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT WAS, THAT KICKED OFF, UH, JUNE 22ND.
WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS ON THIS AND WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN JUNE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT KICKING OFF AT OUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION COMMITTEE.
AND THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING TONIGHT TO HEAR.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, JUST, JUST ONE CHRISY I KNOW.
TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, WHAT I CALL THE ROLLOVER OR THE CARRY FORWARD, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
IS THAT TYPICAL WHAT WE SEE AND IS THAT KIND OF A RESERVE BALANCE FOR YOU? HOW DO YOU USE THAT? YEAH, SO WHAT I, I CALL IT, IT'S OUR HUD BANK.
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WE DO, AGAIN, USUALLY WORK OFF OF PREVIOUS YEARS ALLOCATION.UM, DURING COVID, WE GOT OTHER FUNDING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPEND.
SO WE KIND OF, UM, HAD FUNDING IN WHAT YOU WOULD CALL RESERVES TO, UM, UTILIZE IF NEEDED LAST YEAR, THIS CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE IN, UH, CPC DECIDED TO USE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IT.
UH, WE TYPICALLY USE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN, IN THAT, FROM THAT FUND.
UM, SO THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT I'M ACTUALLY DIPPING INTO THE CURRENT FED, UH, FEDERAL YEARS, UH, ALLOCATION.
I'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THAT BEFORE.
SO THAT RESERVE FUND IS A LITTLE LOWER, BUT ALSO IT SHOWS HUD THAT WE ARE UTILIZING OUR ALLOCATION THAT WE RECEIVE AND INTO THE FULLEST.
OTHER QUESTIONS? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
ON THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
DO YOU ALL JUST UPDATE THAT EVERY YEAR OR AND KEEP IT ROLLING OR DO YOU LITERALLY JUST RUN WITH YOUR FIVE YEAR PLAN AND THEN RESET IT AT THE END OF THE FIVE YEARS? SO WE BASICALLY TAKE THAT CONSOLIDATE OR THAT CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR FIVE YEARS AND EVERY ANNUAL ACTION PLAN WE TAKE WHAT IS SET ON THOSE FIVE GOALS.
AND WE STRATEGIZE BY DATA, BY WHAT NEED THE RESOURCES ARE NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO WE PULL FROM THAT TO CREATE OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN THAT CAN, WE DO LOOK AT IT.
SO IF IT DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED, WE WOULD BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU AT THE SAME TIME AND AMEND THE, THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THEN YOU DO A COMPLETE RESET EVERY FIVE YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE, DON'T WE? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? ALRIGHT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOVE PASSAGE MR. MAYOR.
SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
FIVE ZERO ITEM FIVE F CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS RELATED TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SPEARMAN INVESTMENTS FOR OFFICE SPACE.
LOCATED AT SEVEN NORTH BROAD NORTH BROADWAY, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE ANNUAL RENTAL AT SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY IN THE AMOUNT OF 14,900 $975 MONTHLY, $179,700 TOTAL FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27.
AND CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF ENCUMBERING FUNDS FOR
[F. Consideration of Items Related to the Lease Agreement with Spearman Investments for Office Space Located at 7 N. Broadway, including: Consideration of Approval of a Budget Amendment for a Supplemental Appropriation for the Annual Rental of 7 N. Broadway; $14,975.00 Monthly; $179,700.00 Total for Fiscal Year 2026-2027; and Consideration of Approval of Encumbering Funds for the Lease Agreement with Spearman Investments for Office Space Located at 7 N. Broadway. (Ward 1)]
THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SPEARMAN INVESTMENTS FOR OFFICE SPACE.LOCATED AT SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY.
HI RANDY ANTS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
SO PREVIOUSLY IN PREVIOUS BUDGET YEARS, UH, THE RENT MONEY FOR THAT SPACE IN SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY HAD BEEN ALLOCATED ACROSS MANY, MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
UH, LAST YEAR ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS MOVED INTO THIS BUILDING AND SO THEY NO LONGER ALLOCATED ANY RENT.
UH, THAT HOWEVER, WAS NOT MADE UP.
UH, WE STILL HAVE THAT SPACE LEASED AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN TO PAY THOSE LEASE PAYMENTS OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
UH, THAT LEASE RUNS THROUGH THE END OF JANUARY IN 28.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WHY ARE WE RENTING SPACE IS MY QUESTION.
WE CAME TO THE COUNCIL IN, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS 25, AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE OR NOT.
UH, AFTER WE MOVED THE BUILDING AT THE TIME THE COUNCIL TOLD US THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE TO LEAVE THAT LEASE, THAT SPACE.
WE DO HAVE PARTNER AGENCIES IN THERE, UH, SERVICE OKLAHOMA'S IN THERE AND THEY SUBLEASE SPACE BACK FROM US.
UH, THE COUNTY IS ALSO IN THERE AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO LEASE THAT SPACE.
SO I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, ISN'T THIS THE ONE WHERE WE EXTENDED IT BY SIX MONTHS ON THE LEASE? AM I THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT ONE.
THIS IS WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO TERMINATE THE LEASE IN OCTOBER, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND WE SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA TREAT OUR OUR PARTNERS THAT WAY.
WE'RE GOING TO HONOR THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THAT WE ARE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE WITH THEIR INTENTIONS.
SO I GUESS, DO WE HAVE A PLAN AT THIS POINT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
OR DO WE KEEP RENTING SOMEONE ELSE'S BUILDING WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN BUILDINGS? WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALSO BEING HELPFUL TO OUR PARTNERS, WHICH I KNOW THE CITIZENS GREATLY APPRECIATE HAVING THE CLERK'S OFFICE OVER THERE.
WELL, BUT WE THEN I GUESS WHY DIDN'T WE BUDGET FOR THE RENT THIS YEAR? WAS THAT AN OVERSIGHT? I BELIEVE THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT.
NORMALLY IT'D HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS.
IT WAS NOT THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE IN INSIDE THIS BUILDING.
SO THE COUNTY SERVICE, OKLAHOMA OBVIOUSLY DERIVED REVENUES FROM THOSE OPERATIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.
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I WOULD ASSUME THEY DO.I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ARRANGEMENT BEFORE.
I KNOW WE LIKE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT INDEFINITELY.
AND I THINK WE NEED A PLAN GIVEN THE SPACE WE HAVE AT SOME POINT TO NOT CONTINUE RENTING FOR ANOTHER SET OF AGENCIES HERE FROM OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS ALREADY SHORT.
AND AS I SAID, IN JANUARY OF, IN JANUARY, 2028, THAT LEASE RUNS OUT.
SO WE'LL EITHER HAVE THE OPTION TO RENEW OR LET IT LET IT GO AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
SO JANUARY 28 YEAR AND A HALF MM-HMM
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THIS WITH BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE ON WHAT THEY'RE PAYING AS A, AS A SUBLEASE FROM US? SO HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE ACTUALLY GENERATING IN, IN THAT SUBLEASE PAYMENT? UH, THE STATE PAYS THE SAME RATE WE DO PER FOOT.
SO THEY'RE COVERING THEIR COSTS THAT'S IN THERE.
THE, THE COUNTY PAYS NO MONEY.
I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE OUGHT TO HAVE WITH, WITH THE COUNTY.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS FOREVER.
I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A YEAR AGO.
WE SAID WE NEED TO MAKE A PLAN ON THIS AND WE SORT OF KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND UM, WE'RE STILL KICKING THE CAN HERE.
THE CITY HAS BUILDING SPACE, WE ARE PAYING PART, AGAIN, OUR GENERAL FUND DOES NOT HAVE MARGIN TO COVER OTHER RENT.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S SMART FOR US TO CONTINUE DOING THIS THE WAY WE ARE.
I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT TO HELP THE PARTNER AND PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO THE CITY, BUT DRAWING THIS AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT FROM OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH WE FOUGHT HARD TO GET UP TO EIGHT POINT SOMETHING PERCENT ONLY A MONTH AGO OR TWO MONTHS AGO, IS NOT RESPONSIBLE IN IPING.
MR. INS, DO YOU KNOW WHICH COUNTY DEPARTMENTS ARE UTILIZING THAT SPACE? I BELIEVE IT'S THE COUNTY CLERK AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN THERE AS WELL.
I I THINK IT'S A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE WITH COURT CLERKS IN THERE.
I THINK COURT CLERK, COURT CLERK, COURT CLERK.
I THINK IT'S A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE WITH THE COURT CLERK, COUNTY CLERK, WHOEVER IT IS, AND SEE WHAT KIND OF AN AGREEMENT WE CAN COME TO, UM, UNTIL THE END OF THIS CONTRACT AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
WELL I, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE TALKED TO THE COURT CLERK, MR. WARREN.
UH, I DID HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT HE, THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME HE WAS READY JUST TO SHUT DOWN THAT OFFICE AND MOVE OUT OF HERE IF THERE WASN'T SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY AS WE HAD COMMITTED EARLIER.
UH, PEOPLE GO THERE TO DO CONDUCT ALL SORTS OF BUSINESS WITH HIS OFFICE, PASSPORTS, OTHER THINGS.
AND UH, SO IF WE WANNA LOOK AT ANOTHER PLACE TO LOCATE THEM DOWN THE ROAD, I GUESS WE CAN, BUT RIGHT NOW WE, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND UH, I THINK THE CITIZENS STILL EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT SERVICE FROM HIS OFFICE IN THAT BUILDING.
YEAH, I DO, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT DRAWS FOOT TRAFFIC TO DOWNTOWN EDMOND 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THOSE SERVICES AND THEN MAYBE TAKING CARE OF OTHER BUSINESS OR SHOPPING IN DOWNTOWN EDMOND.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE, IT'S MY OPINION, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE AND THEN IF WE'RE DIRECTING STAFF TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DIRECT THEM TO DO.
BUT I THINK I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THIS FOR NOW.
WELL, AND, AND I THINK A PIECE OF THIS CONVERSATION TOO IS HOW MUCH IS SERVICE OKLAHOMA PAYING ON THE STATE SITE? 'CAUSE THEY MAY BE, THEY MAY BE GIVING US A BIG CHUNK OF THAT MONEY BACK.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S IN THE PACKET.
WHEN WE HAD, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, IT, I THINK IT WAS ON THAT ITEM AND IT WAS A PASS THROUGH THING, SO, OKAY.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE GONNA PAY THE RENT TO US AND WE PAY, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, THAT'S FINE.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, IF WE WEREN'T SITTING HERE TWO MONTHS AGO, LIKE SCRAPING PENNIES FOR THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE, I WOULDN'T CARE.
BUT WE WERE, AND THIS IS LIKE $180,000 OR SOMETHING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE, WHICH I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOING.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT BUYING MORE TIME HERE.
I DON'T REALLY SUPPORT A FULL MONTH OR A FULL YEAR, $180,000 TO CONTINUE RENTING
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WHEN WE HAVE OTHER PROPERTY WE COULD LOOK AT.AND WE'RE SHUFFLING PEOPLE AROUND RIGHT NOW.
WELL, ONCE AGAIN THOUGH, I THINK PART OF THIS COMES BACK TO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A LANDLORD AND AS MS. MURDOCH NICHOLS SAID, THIS IS BRINGING PEOPLE INTO DOWNTOWN.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE IN JUST CUTTING OUR, OUR RESPONSIBILITY SHORT BECAUSE WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT TO PAY YOU.
WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT TO OUR PARTNERS ANYMORE.
AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO THAT TO US.
SO DO WE NEED TO LOOK IT UP? I'M SORRY.
WE DON'T WANNA LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH WITHOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION.
SO LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION AND IF, IF THE COURT CLERK CAN PONY UP SOME MONEY, GREAT, BUT LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITHOUT JUST CUTTING OFF A LEASE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD PRACTICE.
WELL, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION THAT'S MADE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU READ THE LEASE, IT SAYS THAT THERE ISN'T, THERE IS AN OPTION TO OPT OUT OF THE LEASE WITH A 60 DAY WRITTEN NOTICE AFTER AUGUST 31ST, 2025.
UM, I THINK I ALREADY STATED I DON'T WANNA DO THAT, BUT THAT IS THE TERM OF THE LEASE.
SO I THINK WE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION A YEAR AGO.
SO, WELL THEN I THINK WE'RE AT THE SAME PLACE WE WERE THEN MR. CITY MANAGER, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE IN THE PATH FORWARD.
AND UH, WE ARE PLANNING FOR, UH, AN AUGUST 24TH, UH, UH, DISCUSSION.
WE'RE, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GONNA BE A WORKSHOP, BUT ABOUT DOWNTOWN AND INCLUSIVE IN THAT IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE, THE LAND AND THE BUILDINGS THAT WE OWN IN THE DOWNTOWN.
SO WE CAN, UH, PICK THIS UP AS PART OF THAT FOR SURE.
ALRIGHT, SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ITEMS HERE WE NEED TO BE VOTED ON.
IS THAT CORRECT? CITY ATTORNEY? FIRST ONE WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE ANNUAL RENTAL OF SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,975 A MONTH.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THOUGH, SO DO WE NEED TO OH, RIGHT, WE DO.
IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS? MR. WILSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD TO THIS? I DO.
YOU HAD THIS SAME DISCUSSION WITH DIRECTION TO STAFF TO ADDRESS IT.
SAY NO TO THE LEASE WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY DECIDED TO BUILD THIS BUILDING.
PART OF THE FUNDING OF THAT WAS TO GET RID OF THAT LEASE.
THE LEASE PROVIDES NOTICE APPROPRIATELY TIME.
IF THE STAFF DIDN'T DO WHAT YOU INSTRUCTED A YEAR AGO, THEN I, YOU'VE GOTTA ADDRESS THAT TO GIVE THE PARTNER PLENTY OF TIME.
SO, UM, TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, IF THE GOAL IS THE COUNTY REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE, THE COUNTY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT EDMOND DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS SATELLITE OFFICES, FORCE THE COUNTY TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'D RATHER SUPPORT THE COUNTY AND WANT TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR DOWNTOWN THAN SAY WE WANT TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND WRITE THEM A CHECK.
IF YOU DO THIS, YOU'RE CHOOSING TO DO LESS POOL WORK AND OR ROADS.
THESE ARE REAL HUNDRED THOUSAND AT LEAST AFTER THE SUBSIDY DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE CHOOSING TO USE.
EVERYTHING WITH OUR BUDGET NOW IS A CHOICE.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT DOING ROADS AND YOU'RE NOT DOING THINGS BY MAKING THIS CHOICE.
AND IT'S, WE SHOULD AS A CITY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE RENTING, COMPETING DIRECTLY WITH PRIVATE INDUSTRIES.
IF THE MARKET RATE IS THE MARKET RATE, LET THEM LEASE THE BUILDING DIRECTLY.
WE'RE INCREASING OUR LIABILITY, WE'RE INCREASING OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS COSTS THAT ARE NOT EVEN IN THIS CALCULATION.
AND THE, THIS TO ME IS WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE ASKED FOR.
ANYONE ELSE? NOW WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS HERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? THE FIRST ITEM IS THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT.
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MODIFICATION? WELL, YOU CAN INSTEAD OF THE FULL YEAR.IS THAT A MOTION? I I THINK THERE WAS ALREADY A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE.
SO IF YOU WANT ME TO, I KNOW A MOTION WAS MADE AND I SAID I WOULD SECOND THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
SO THAT'S, I BELIEVE MR. MAYOR, THAT'S THE POSTURE WE'RE IN.
FIRST ITEM OF ITEM WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CAN WE, IS THE COUNCILWOMAN WILLING TO MAKE A AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION FOR SIX MONTHS? SO WE'RE GONNA AMEND A LEASE FROM THE DAAS? I DON'T KNOW.
WE'RE GONNA ONLY PROVIDE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR HALF OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS JUST THE BUDGET A MINUTE OR JUST CAN I, I DON'T KNOW.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE YOU WOULD DO THAT? I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPECTATION OF THE STAFF IS.
MY GUESS IS WE'RE NOT GONNA GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT IN SIX MONTHS.
I, I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO TALK YOU INTO OR OUT OF ANYTHING.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU EXPECT.
THE COURT CLERK'S OFFICE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS BUILDING.
WHY NOT? SERVICE OKLAHOMA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN HERE.
WHY NOT? WELL, IT BEATS THE HELL OUT OF ME, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN HERE.
YOU GOTTA WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO FIND THEM.
SO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM AND THEY FOLD UP SHOP, IT WILL BE AN UNPLEASANT WEEK WITH THE CITIZENS WONDERING WHERE THEY'VE GONE AND WHY THEY'VE GONE.
MY CONCERN IS WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.
LIKE WE'RE JUST GONNA DO THIS FOREVER, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF AND WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR IT.
SO WHAT I WOULD EXPECT IF WE DID A SIX MONTH, UM, SHORT TERM THING WOULD BE A PLAN.
HOW LONG ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? WHY AREN'T THEY SITTING IN THIS BUILDING? WHY AREN'T WE USING SOME OF OUR OTHER SPACE? WHY AREN'T THEY IN HERE? RIGHT? THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT 'EM.
WELL SOMEBODY MADE A DECISION ABOUT WHO WAS SITTING WHERE.
WELL, AND THAT WAS ALL DONE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL GOT HERE.
THE REALITY OF IT IS IF WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, IF WE APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT TONIGHT, KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T COME UP WITH A PLAN IN SIX MONTHS, BUT MR. KRIEGER IS GONNA GET US A PLAN, LET'S GET A PLAN AND MOVE ON.
I MEAN I THINK IT'S THAT IT'S THAT SIMPLE BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN IT COMES BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THIS SIDE OF THE DAY TONIGHT IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS BOTH OF THOSE AGENCIES WERE GONNA BE IN THIS BUILDING.
WHOSE FAULT IS THAT? IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT.
IT'S NOT THE FIVE OF US' FAULT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PREVIOUS FIVE, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKED OUT.
AND THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IF YOU WANNA TAKE A DRIVER'S TEST IN EDMOND, YOU GOT A PLACE TO COME AND STAND IN LINE AND TAKE IT.
OR NOW IT'S I GUESS ALL BY APPOINTMENT.
BUT, AND IF YOU NEED TO GO SEE THE COURT CLERK, YOU GOT A PLACE TO DO IT IN EDMOND.
AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH BOTH.
WELL THE STATE'S ALREADY PAID FOR THEIR SPACE.
SO LET'S TALK TO MR. WARREN AND LET'S SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO HELP US A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE GET THERE.
YEAH, LET'S NOT, I MEAN THIS IS BACK TO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WEREN'T GONNA DO A YEAR AGO, WHICH WAS WE'RE JUST GONNA CUT A GOOD PARTNER OF OURS OUT, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
LET'S GET A PLAN TOGETHER AND MOVE ON.
AND WE HAVE THREE, WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS, THREE BLOCKS FROM THAT BUILDING.
HAS ANYBODY LOOKED AT, WELL WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CITY MANAGER EITHER.
WE NOW HAVE A CITY MANAGERS, NO OFFENSE MR. ENDS, BUT
MR. MAYOR, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND I HAVE SECONDED THAT.
YEAH, MY MOTION IS FIVE F THE FIRST ITEM.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE'RE NOW ON THE SECOND ITEM UNDER FOUR UNDER FIVE F, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.
ENCUMBERING FUNDS FOR THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH SECUREMENT INVESTMENTS FOR OFFICE SPACE LOCATED SEVEN NORTH BROADWAY.
MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECOND ITEM OF F.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
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MOTION PASSES 4 0 1.[G. Consideration of Approval of a Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget Amendment for a Transfer of Appropriation from the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Budget for Rehabilitation Costs to the CDBG Budget for Personnel Costs; $24,533.73. (Citywide)]
CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26.BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT BUDGET FOR REHABILITATION COSTS OF THE C-B-D-V-G BUDGET FOR PERSONNEL COSTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $24,533 AND 73 CENTS.
MS. BATTERSON? YES, THE CHRISTY BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS BASICALLY TO MOVE FROM THE 83 HUNDREDS OR THAT CATEGORY THAT IS REHABILITATION SERVICES IS UNDER TO MAKE OUR, UM, PERSONNEL COST IN THE POSITIVE.
UM, IT ENDED THE YEAR IN THE NEGATIVE.
UH, I, WE HAD TO MOVE AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR.
WE HAD TO MOVE SOME COST OVER TO CITYLINK 'CAUSE THOSE PERSONNEL WAS BEING PAID OUT OF THE CLINK FUND VERSUS CDBG FUND.
UM, AND IT JUST NEEDED TO OFFSET THAT COST.
SO WE END UP POSITIVE AND THIS DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE APPROVAL OF, UH, THE CITY MANAGER.
IT HAD TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL.
I WAS I GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT? NO.
ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE MORE, SORRY SINCE I'M TALKING.
WE HAD A SITUATION, UH, MIGHT BE LOOKING AT KATHY HERE, WHERE WE HAD SOME CDBG FUNDS THAT KIND OF GOT STUCK IN THAT FUND AND WEREN'T REIMBURSED BECAUSE THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW, UN ALLOWABLE IS PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THESE, THE TRANSFER OF THESE MONIES IS ALL ALLOWABLE OR WHATEVER AND CAN BE COVERED BY GRANT MONEY.
AND IN FACT WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENT ON OUR, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS AND WE HAVE ONE MORE REIMBURSEMENT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FINANCE ON THAT OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS EXPENDED BY THE END OF JUNE 30, LIKE IF WE STARTED A PROJECT YEAH.
PRIOR TO THE END OF JUNE 30, THAT WHEN WE GET THAT REIMBURSEMENT IN SEPTEMBER, THAT IT GOES BACK TO THE JUNE 30.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
UM, SO THIS LAST, UH, DRAW DOWN THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING, WE'LL BALANCE THAT OUT.
YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? LOOK HER THUMBS UP FROM KATHY.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? ALRIGHT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION TO MOVE PAROLE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[6. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS THE EVAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.CALL TO ORDER EVAN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[7. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
IN THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING UNDER GENERAL CONSENT.WE HAVE 14 ITEMS TONIGHT AND WE ARE GOING TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ITEM SEVEN G AND SEVEN H ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AT THIS TIME? SCENE NONE.
COULD I GET A MOTION? MR. MAYOR? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY CONSENT ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SEVEN G AND SEVEN H.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO UNDER ITEM EIGHT,
[A. Consideration of Public Works Authority General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
PUBLIC COURT'S AUTHORITY.DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION ITEMS A, WHICH IS COMING BACK TO G AND H FROM THE PREVIOUS NUMBER.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH SEVEN G.
CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE FOR CONTINUED CITYWIDE LEASE FOR DIGITAL MULTIFUNCTION DEVICES, SERVICES, SUPPLIES, AND MONTHLY COPY, UH, COPY VOLUMES WITH IMAGENET CONSULTING LLC THROUGH STATE CONTRACT SW 1 0 1 3.
AND THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE PULLED THIS IS BECAUSE OF A, FOR ANYONE WHO DIDN'T NOTICE AT THE VERY END OF THIS, UM, I GOTTA GET ALL THE WAY OVER TO IT, DON'T I? AT THE VERY END OF THIS SECTION OF FISCAL IMPACT, THE VERY LAST LINE SAYS, BUDGET AUTHORITY APPROVED FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 27, 20 28 ANNUAL BUDGET.
AND THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH A 2028 BUDGET.
WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT ITEM IN THERE SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.
SO THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY THIS WAS PULLED
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FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS.WE WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS 20 26, 20 27 MONEY, NOT 2028.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? IT DID MAKE ME WONDER THOUGH, HAS OUR COPY MACHINE RENTAL COST GONE DOWN OVER THE PAST YEARS AS THINGS HAVE MOVED BORN DIGITAL? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
THE COST OF PRINTING EACH OF THOSE COPY MACHINES, UM, FOR EACH, THE COLOR HAS GONE UP TO 'CAUSE OF INK PRICES OR SOMETHING.
I KNOW A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO, BUT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS A COST SAVINGS THING GOING FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION APPROVE.
I GO TO MOTION AND SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE ARE NOW ON TO SEVEN H CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF PAYMENT OF THE PERFORMANCE BASED SALES TAX INCENTIVE FOR A PORTION OF THE SALES TAX REMITTED FROM THE OPERATIONS OF SHOWBIZ CINEMA IN THE AMOUNT OF $150,000.
I ASKED FOR THIS ITEM TO BE PULLED TONIGHT.
UM, THIS, THIS AGREEMENT PREDATES ALL OF OUR TIME ON COUNSEL AND, UM, I'M OKAY WITH THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT THAT TIME, BUT I AM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THE CONDITION OF SHOWBIZ.
I, UM, THERE'S CLEANLINESS ISSUES, THERE'S SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
I I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ACTING AS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR GETTING IN THEIR BUSINESS, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO TAKE SERIOUSLY THIS AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IF I COULD DIRECT STAFF TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THEM, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED IN THE PAST.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, SOME REINVESTMENT INTO THE, INTO THE SPACE.
WE KNOW THAT IT IS WELL LOVED, WELL USED AND THERE WILL BE WEAR AND TEAR.
UM, BUT I JUST, I JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME PRIDE IN THAT SPACE.
I KNOW WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH DRIVING IN TO SEE A MOVIE AND I WANNA ENJOY IT WITH MY FAMILY IN A, A CLEAN AND RECENTLY UPDATED SPACE.
SO WITH THAT REQUEST IN PLACE, WOULD YOU, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? IF ANYONE ELSE IS WELCOME TO COMMENT, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE AT THIS TIME.
I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS AND I'VE HEARD THAT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY.
YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT NOT INTERESTED IN TRYING TO CHANGE THIS AGREEMENT.
IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I THINK, UM, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE GOOD PARTNERS, SO YEAH.
ALSO WE GO THERE ALL THE TIME, SO WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE.
BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST KIND A LITTLE RUNDOWN.
SO, SO MR. KRIEGER, COULD YOU YES.
ADDRESS THAT FOR US? THANK YOU.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION.
[B. Consideration and Approval of Annual Service / Supply Contract Renewals (Citywide): Quicklime Chemical for Water Treatment Plant for an Estimated Annual Amount of $300,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Miscellaneous EMT Supplies for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $72,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Paint Striping and Removal for Field Services - Traffic for an Estimated Annual Amount of $162,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; Street and Security Light Installations for Electric and Traffic Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $210,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; As-Needed Water System Repair Services for the Field Services - Water Line / Wastewater Line Maintenance Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $1,600,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; Root Control Services for Field Services - Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $240,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; Wastewater System Repairs for Field Services - Waste Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $600,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; Water Meters for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Ductile Iron Pipe for Field Services - Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $240,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; MJ Restraints for Field Services - Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $6,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; MJ Solid Sleeve Couplings for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $36,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Fire Hydrants for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Full Circle Clamps for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $36,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Miscellaneous Tree Services for Various City Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $220,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Decorative, Street, and Security Lights for Various City Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $180,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Traffic Sign Posts / Hardware for Field Services - Traffic for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; Bunker Gear for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $78,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; As-Needed Overhead Electrical Distribution Projects for the Electric Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $2,000,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Station / Work Uniforms for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Safety Apparel for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Turf Repair Service for Various City Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $75,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; and Wholesale Electric Purchases for the Electric Department for an Estimated Annual Cost of $70,513,475.00.]
B CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF ANNUAL SERVICE SUPPLY CONTRACT RENEWAL.MR. KRIEGER, WHO'S GONNA ADDRESS THIS FOR US? I DON'T, WAS IT, WAS IT MR. ENS AND HE RAN OUTTA THE BUILDING.
HE DIDN'T WANNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, A PARTICULAR, UH, UH, COST OR A PARTICULAR ITEM, WE CAN CALL THAT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR UP.
ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST, I HAD TO, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW, LIKE, WHAT WAS KIND OF THE RULE SET THAT YOU USED TO PICK ONCE ONES WENT ON? WHICH ONES WENT ON THIS LIST VERSUS AS INDIVIDUAL ITEMS? 'CAUSE I DO STILL HAVE SOME INDIVIDUAL ITEMS IN THE PACKET THAT ARE RENEWALS.
WAS THERE LIKE A CERTAIN THRESHOLD OR KATHY'S GONNA COME UP? OKAY.
I'M JUST CURIOUS THINKING ABOUT THAT LAST ONE.
KATHY PAN IS FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SO, UM, THE REASON THAT ALL OF THESE HAVE COME BEFORE YOU IS REALLY OUT OF A, UH, ON THE CAUTIOUS SIDE JUST TO SHOW YOU EVERYTHING.
NORMALLY THEY DON'T ALL COME TO YOU, BUT WITH ALL OF OUR TRANSITION WITH OUR PURCHASING, UH, DEPARTMENT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE TRANSPARENT AND YOU GUYS HAD OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ALL THIS.
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WE HAVE REVIEWED ALL THESE, MY OPINION IS WHEN IT'S A YEAR OVER YEAR RENEWAL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED AND IT'S IN THE BUDGET, THIS IS A REAL GOOD WAY TO DO IT FOR THE, JUST FOR THOSE PURCHASE AGREEMENT RENEWALS.SO I THINK, AGAIN, MY OPINION, THE MORE THAT WE CAN DO GOING FORWARD, LIKE IN JULY, I THINK THAT IT'S AN EASY WAY TO DIGEST THOSE AND STAY TRANSPARENT.
MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE, SO THE ONE THAT STICKS OUT TO ME IS THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS GLEN'S ITEM FOR $70 MILLION THERE TUCKED AT THE END
BUT IT'S A BIG NUMBER, SO I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD COMMENT ON THAT ONE.
THAT IS, UH, OUR ELECTRIC, IT'S OUR WHOLESALE ELECTRIC THAT WE BUY FROM O-O-M-P-A.
I DON'T KNOW IF GLEN'S HERE, HE CAN EXPLAIN IT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, ONCE AGAIN, WE JUST PUT 'EM ALL IN THERE AND, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED TO DO A TABLE, WHICH WE WILL GET ON ALL OF THESE EARLIER NEXT YEAR, BUT ALSO A TABLE THAT SHOWS WHAT YEAR WE'RE IN OF EACH OF THESE.
AND, UH, I DON'T, I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE PROBABLY IN YEAR THREE OR FOUR.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT WE COMMUNICATE WITH ALL OF THESE VENDORS AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE WILLING TO RENEW AND EVERYBODY'S GOOD ON THE PRICE AND EVERYTHING, WE, WE GO AHEAD AND RENEW 'EM.
IT SAYS WHICH YEAR IN THE LINE ITEMS THERE.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED, IN CASE THERE'S ANY PUBLIC WATCHING OR READING THE PACKET, 70 MILLION'S A BIG NUMBER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS.
WE BUY POWER AND THEN WE INCLUDE IT IN THE BILL FOR ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS, BASICALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION APPROVE.
[9. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
A MOTION TO ADJOURN EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF I MAY.
WE'RE BACK IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? GO RIGHT AHEAD.
CAN WE RECESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TILL 6:45 PM IS THAT A QUESTION OR A MOTION? I'M MAKING A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
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AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE TO RECONVENE HERE.UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE THE EDMUND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE BILL.
READY? MR. FRAME, WE'RE WAITING ON YOU.
[10. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
IS CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL ITEMS L, MP, S, AND U FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.IF WE HAVE ANY OTHERS WE'D LIKE TO PULL AT THIS POINT.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO, MR. MAYOR? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ITEM D.
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NOW.WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? REMIND US WHICH ONES WE ARE PULLING D, L, M, P, S, AND U FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THEM.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE MOTION FORMAT? I DON'T KNOW.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO, I GOTTA GET OVER TO THE RIGHT NUMBER HERE.
[A. Consideration of City Council General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
A, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL CONSENT ITEMS PULLED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION OR ACTION.LET'S START WITH ITEM 10 D, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER PR TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 2.
CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A FINAL PLAT OF WOODLAND PARK EIGHT LOCATED ON SOUTH SIDE OF COFFEE CREEK ROAD EAST OF DOUGLAS BOULEVARD.
UH, JAKE HUNTER WITH JOHNSON ASSOCIATES CERTAIN, CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE UP TO YOU? UM, SO THE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP ON, ON THIS, UH, WERE ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, WOODLAND PARK PHASE FOUR, UM, WHICH IS KIND OF TO THE SOUTHWEST OF, OF THERE AND BEACH GROVE DRIVE.
SO WE WERE MADE AWARE OF ISSUES ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS.
UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH ENGINEERING TO GRADE ANY LOTS THAT WERE GOING TO THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS TO THE STREET TO HELP MITIGATE ANY ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING BACK THERE.
UM, BUT THE DEVELOPER AS PART OF WOODLAND PARK EIGHT, IS A SEPARATE DEVELOPER THAN WHO DEVELOPED WOODLAND PARK FOR.
SO WHAT DID ENGINEERING TELL YOU? THEY, THEY SAID BASICALLY TO MAKE SURE YOU DRAIN TO THE STREET.
'CAUSE THE ISSUES HAPPENING ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS.
I'VE BEEN OUT THERE MULTIPLE TIMES.
I'VE TALKED TO THOSE CITIZENS WEEKLY MM-HMM
AND AT OUR SWAB MEETINGS WE HEAR ABOUT IT.
THEY HAD TO TELL YOU SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW.
SO, I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS IT CAME THROUGH WHEN THE LOTS WERE DEVELOPED, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DRAIN BETWEEN THE LOTS AND THEY ENDED UP GETTING PUSHED BACK AND EVERYTHING ENDED UP CHANNELING ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS CAUSING THAT ISSUE.
UM, SO AS FAR AS WOODLAND PARK AID IS CONCERNED, THERE'S ONLY TWO LOTS THAT HISTORICALLY DRAINED TO THAT AREA.
SO WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THAT AND MADE SURE THAT THAT DRAINAGE WENT TO THE STREET INSTEAD OF TO THE BACK OF THE LOTS.
MR. LAWRENCE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS CHAT? UH, WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHERE ON, ON THAT STREET? CAN YOU SHOW ME HERE ON BEACH GROVE? UH, WHERE, WHERE THE ISSUES ARE HAPPENING? I ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE ISSUE, YOU SAY YOU'VE GOT TWO HOMES THERE, CORRECT.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA PULL UP THE, THE FINAL PLOT.
SO ON THE SOUTHWEST, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE LOTS, UH, IS THAT, NO WAIT, 33 AND 34.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S CORRECT.
SO THOSE HISTORICALLY DRAINED TO THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS LONG BEACH GROVE DRIVE.
UM, AND WE, WE'VE ADDED NOTES TO OUR PLANS, TALKED WITH KEITH BEATTY AND MADE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT DRAINING TO THE STREET.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR LAST SENTENCE.
YEAH, WE, WE'VE ENSURED THAT THOSE LOTS ARE AGAIN, DRAINED TO THE STREET.
WE'VE ADDED NOTES TO OUR PLANS AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE COORDINATED WITH CONTRACTORS AND EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT HAPPENS.
SO THEY'D BE DRAINING TO WOODLAND PARK BOULEVARD, UH, TO BE BEACH GROVE DRIVE.
SO THE, THE ISSUES ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THOSE LOTS ALONG THE NORTH OF THOSE LOTS.
SO HISTORICALLY, THOSE LOTS 33 AND 34 DRAINED ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT ESSENTIALLY DRAINS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF LOT 34 TO THE STREET.
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I'M CONFUSED.WELL, I AM TOO BECAUSE 33 AND 34, 30 LOT 34 IS A CORNER LOT THAT WOULD BE ON BOTH BEACH GROVE DRIVE AND WOODLAND PARK BOULEVARD.
AND 33 WOULD BE ON, WOULD BE HITTING WOODLAND PARK BOULEVARD.
AND I CAN'T READ THE NAME OF THAT STREET ROTHWELL WAY.
SO THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS HAVE ALWAYS HISTORICALLY GONE SOUTHWEST.
SO IN AN EFFORT TO HELP MITIGATE DRAINAGE FROM THIS PHASE OF ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING ON PHASE FOUR, WE HAVE REVISED OUR GRADING PLAN TO, INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS TO DRAIN BETWEEN ALONG THE BACK OF 33 AND THE SIDE OF 34 TO DIRECTLY TO THE STREET, SO YOU'RE GONNA DRAIN 'EM TO THE EAST SOUTHEAST INSTEAD OF THE SOUTHWEST THAT THEY'LL DRAIN TO BEACH GROVE DRIVE.
BUT THE ISSUES ARE HAPPENING ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THOSE LOTS.
YOU CAN SEE 39, 40, 41 WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOL'S PROPERTY.
SO IT IT, IT'S GOING TO AVOID THAT AREA THAT'S HAVING ISSUES AND DRAIN HISTORICALLY TO WHERE IT'S ALWAYS HAS, WHICH IS BEACH GROVE DRIVE, BUT IT'S GONNA AVOID THE AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY HAVING ISSUES.
BUT IF LOT 33 DRAINS TO BEACH GROVE DRIVE, IT'S GONNA DRAIN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF LOT 34.
IT IT, YEAH, IT'LL DRAIN ALONG THE SIDE OF SIDE OF THAT LOT.
YOU, YOU CAN'T HAVE LOT 33 DRAINING THROUGH LOT 34.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE DRAINING IT TO THE STREET, YOU'RE GONNA DRAIN IT TO THE EAST INSTEAD OF THE WEST.
IT, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DRAIN THROUGH THREE LOTS AND THIS HISTORICALLY HAS ALWAYS DRAINED.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE A DRAINAGE BASIN AND IT'S ALWAYS DRAINED TO THE SOUTHWEST.
AND IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION, IT DRAINS TO THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS.
AND FOR OUR PROPOSED CONDITION, IT'S GOING TO DRAIN DIRECTLY TO THE STREET.
SO YOU'RE GONNA DRAIN BOTH OF THEM DO SOUTH.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK AT THOSE OF YOU WHO SIT ON SWAB.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S, WHAT HE'S SAYING.
I MEAN, I HAVE NO CLUE IF IT WORKS, IF THAT'S YOUR, IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.
AND I MEAN, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN ENGINEERING ADDRESS THAT, NOT ME.
AND, AND I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH KEITH BEATTY.
THIS HAS BEEN A BACK AND FORTH AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE LANDED ON.
STEVE LAWRENCE, CITY ENGINEER.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL THE ATTENTION THAT HAS BEEN, UH, ON THE ADJACENT LOTS ON THIS PREVIOUS SECTION, UH, WE'VE PUT A LOT INTO REVIEWING THIS FOR DRAINAGE AND ENSURING THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO EXACERBATE ANYTHING ON THE OTHER AS WELL AS MAKING SURE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY THAT THIS AREA WILL DRAIN APPROPRIATELY AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING HERE.
I KNOW KEITH BEATTY HAS GONE THROUGH IT WITH THEM EXTENSIVELY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO, UH, MAKE WORSE WHAT'S ALREADY A, A BAD SITUATION OVER THERE.
AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT MOVING FORWARD.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, MR. MAYOR, TO UH, HAVE A REPORT FROM MR. BEATTY OUTLINING HOW THAT'S ALL WILL OCCUR AND IT'LL EASE THE ISSUE AT BEECH GROVE AND HAVE THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING INSTEAD OF APPROVING THIS TONIGHT, KICK THIS OUT TO AUGUST 10 AND IN THE MEANTIME, RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION FROM
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MR. BEATTY, RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM JOHNSON AND ASSOCIATES.AND MOST OF ALL, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO, THEY'RE EQUALLY IMPORTANT, BUT I WOULD, THE PEOPLE THAT BEACH GROVE DRIVE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS AND, UH, THEY DESERVE SOME COMFORT THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO ADD MORE TO THEIR ISSUES.
SO, UH, I'M GLAD THAT THE, THAT MR. BEATY AND OTHERS HAVE HAD A CHAT WITH JOHNSON AND ASSOCIATES ABOUT THIS.
BUT I, I, I'D LIKE TWO WEEKS TO, TO SEE THAT AND, UH, HAVE A LITTLE MORE COMFORT ABOUT THAT.
SO WOULD YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT AS A MOTION? I WOULD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, SIR, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
UM, NO, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BESIDES WHAT I'VE DISCUSSED.
I, THE, THE ONLY THING WITH THIS IS THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR WOODLAND PARK PHASE FOUR AND, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER ON THIS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT ON AN ISSUE FROM A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH TALKING WITH DRAINAGE AND WITH KEITH BEATTY, THAT E EVERY EFFORT HAS BEEN DONE ON THEIR PART TO DRAIN SOUTH.
AND TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT DOUBTING YOU, I'M NOT DOUBTING THAT AT ALL.
AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WOODLAND PARK FOUR AND WOODLAND PARK EIGHT, IT'S THAT THE ENTIRE ISSUE OUT THERE AND EIGHT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT HAS SOME EFFECT ON FOUR.
ISN'T THAT FAIR? UH, THAT'S FAIR.
SO IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN LET'S READ ABOUT IT AND, UH, I'LL GET SMARTENED UP HERE AND, UH, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT IN TWO WEEKS.
UH, AND WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT, I'VE SAID, I SAID THIS AT SWA THE OTHER DAY, UH, A COUPLE OF BUILDERS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
UH, THEY CAME TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
THEY OUT THERE, UH, SEAN FORTH AND BEACON.
UH, I'M STILL TRYING TO SOMEHOW REACH CALIBER TO HAVE A CHAT WITH ME.
I, I'M TO THE POINT TO WHERE I MAY HAVE TO LEASE SOME BLOODHOUNDS TO TRACK 'EM DOWN.
I CAN'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM 'EM.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM 'EM IF THEY'RE LISTENING TONIGHT.
AND, UH, I, I'D MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO AUGUST 10TH.
WE WILL CONTINUE ITEM 10 D TO AUGUST 10TH, MOVING ON TO 10 L CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL POLICE FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF AGREED UPON LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES.
AND CHIEF, I THINK THIS IS MORE GONNA BE FOR MS. PANIS THAN FOR YOU, BUT THE QUESTION WE HAD ON THIS WAS, IT SAYS IN THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEPOSIT ANY REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE US CAPITOL POLICE INTO THE FEDERAL GRANTS FUND.
AND THE QUESTION WAS, IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO BE PUTTING THE MONEY? IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SPENDING MONEY TO PROVIDE SERVICES, SHOULDN'T WE, WE BE PUTTING REIMBURSEMENT INTO THE POLICE FUND.
IT IS GOING TO 1 22 THOUGH, WHICH IS POLICE.
THEN IT'S JUST STATED WRONG IN THE DESCRIPTION BECAUSE IT SAYS GOING INTO THE FEDERAL GRANTS FUND.
IT, IT'S THE, THE FUND IS THE POLICE AND THEN THE, THE ACTUAL OBJECT CODE 74 21, IT'S CALLED FEDERAL PUBLIC SAFETY GRANTS.
SO IT'S, IT'S IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDS.
BUT THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS DESCRIBED.
SO YOU'RE SAYING JUST MAYBE NOT FEDERAL? YEAH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER, WILL IT HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS IN THAT GRANTS FUND? NO, IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST A LABEL.
IT IS A FUND ACCOUNT WITHIN POLICE SPECIAL.
IF IT'S COMMINGLED, WELL, WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT, SO LET'S SEE, WHAT'S IT COMING FROM? UNITED STATES CAPITOL POLICE.
IT'S COMING FROM THE RIGHT PLACE.
IT'S, BUT IN THE DESCRIPTION IT SAYS IT'S GOING INTO THE FEDERAL GRANT FUND.
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THAT'S AN OBJECT CODE THAT GOES TO ALL DIFFERENT FUNDS.SO IT'S JUST SAYING IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT, BUT IT'S NOT A GRANT.
AND THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
BECAUSE THIS IS A STRAIGHT UP REIMBURSEMENT IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR A CONGRESS MEMBER.
THAT'S WHERE WE TEND TO PUT THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE YOU TRACK IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GONNA, IF IT, IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT.
SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, IT IT'S, WE TRACK IT AS A GRANT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A GRANT.
THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CAPITAL POLICE THAT SAYS THEY'LL REIMBURSEMENT REIMBURSE US IF WE HAVE TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SECURITY FOR A CONGRESS MEMBER.
THEY'RE NOT SAYING THEY'RE GIVING US ANY MONEY AT ALL.
WELL, WE CAN
SO I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE CHIEF, WELL WAIT A SECOND.
I, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT IT'S GOING INTO THE POLICE FUND.
SO IT'S GOING INTO THE POLICE FUND.
I THINK YOUR SECONDARY CONCERN IS, IS THERE ANY SORT OF LIMITATION? AND WE'VE SORT SORTED JUST IN THIS CONVERSATION HAVE INTERCHANGEABLY SAID REIMBURSEMENT AND GRANT.
AND IF YOU READ THE ITEM, IT SAYS THERE'S A POTENTIAL REIMBURSEMENT, PROBABLY THE ERROR, AND I'M NOT SURE IT WAS AN ERROR, BUT THE ERROR WAS, THE ERROR MADE WAS TO IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY THE LINE ITEM OR THE, OR THE CODE, UH, THAT THE, THE REVENUE WOULD BE BOOKED TO.
IF THERE'S A REIMBURSEMENT, IT'S GONNA GO AS REVENUE INTO THE POLICE FUND.
AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS IT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE POLICE TO USE AS THEY NEED TO.
AND I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE REG OR SPECIFICS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED.
BELIEVE ME, I READ THAT THING OKAY.
TWICE TO, TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS, WHAT WAS GOING ON.
ALRIGHT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF BEING REIMBURSED.
UM, SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE
WE ARE NOW ON 10 M CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO THE INVASIVE SPECIES PROGRAM FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE CHARLES D. LAMB NATURE PRESERVE.
AND WE PULLED THIS ONE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS GOING ON OUT THERE.
I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON THIS ISSUE, UM, OVER THE LAST WEEK.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE OUT THERE SPRAYING HERBICIDES ALL OVER, EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN.
UM, I UNDERSTAND MR. HALE, IF YOU WANNA COME FORWARD THAT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION.
UH, FRANK HALE, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF EDMOND PARKS, UM, WE MET LAST MONTH WITH A LARGE GROUP OF CITIZENS TO HEAR THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT AND TO GIVE THEM AN UPDATE AND, UH, KIND OF AN EXPANDING ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THERE.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WAS THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT WE WEREN'T BRINGING IN ENOUGH PEOPLE WITH THAT KIND OF EXPERTISE AND, AND RESTORATION.
UM, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ENGAGED OR ARE CONTINUING TO ENGAGE WITH.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE WAS THAT WE WOULD GO IN AND DO A WHOLE SWATH THE RESTORATION AT ONE TIME.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT THE RESTORATION WILL PROBABLY TAKE US FIVE YEARS TO DO.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THE ASSURANCE WE CAN PROVIDE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPECIFY THAT ONLY A FIFTH OR ABOUT 20% OF THE, UM, THE PRESERVE WILL BE RESTORED AT ONE TIME.
SO THAT MAY BE THAT WE'RE WORKING OFF OF THE TRAIL AND A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM THE TRAIL AND THAT EXPANDS.
IT MAY BE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, ONE SPECIFIC SPECIES OR TWO 20% OF THE SPECIES.
UM, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ABOUT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DIVIDE THAT UP, BUT WE WON'T BE MAKING ONE BIG WHOLESALE CHANGE AT ANY TIME.
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JUST BE CONTINUING WITH LIKE THE RESTORATION WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, EARLIER AND JUST INTO THE LAST WEEK.AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REACH, UH, ABOUT A 20%, THAT'LL BE ALL THAT WE DO FOR THAT YEAR.
ONE BECAUSE, UH, IT, WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, THE STAFF OR THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND JUST DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE IMPACT AS WE GO.
UM, THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT TO DO IS GO IN AND DO SOME IRREPARABLE HARM.
UM, SO YOU COULD LOOK AT IT AS BEING BASICALLY LIKE TAKING A TEST AREA.
EVERYTHING WORKS, GOES TO PLAN EVERYTHING FOR THAT AREA, THEN WE WOULD ADD ANOTHER 20% TO IT AND SO ON UNTIL WE REACH THAT FIVE YEAR KIND OF A HUNDRED PERCENT RESTORATION.
AND THEN EVEN THEN, UM, CALLING RESTORING IS A LITTLE BIT NEBULOUS.
UM, IT'LL BE REMOVING SOME INVASIVE INVASIVE SPECIES.
UM, BUT YES, WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO CHEMICALLY VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD DO, UM, BY ACTUALLY PULLING AND USING SOME OTHER METHODS.
SO I ATTENDED THE MEETING AND, UM, FRANK WAS THERE AND LEE WITH URBAN FORESTRY.
AND, UM, IT WAS A REALLY, IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.
I I THINK EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO FEEL HEARD AND, UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS EXPRESSED BY THE GROUP THAT SPEARHEADED THE REFERENDUM IS THAT, UM, THEY'RE NOT IN A HURRY.
THEY WANT IT, THEY WANT IT TO BE DONE RIGHT.
AND, AND I HAVE, I THINK I FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT, UM, I KNOW LEE AND FRANK AND THE PARK STAFF, THEY UNDERSTAND THE INTENT IS TO PRESERVE, UM, WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT PIECE OF LAND.
IF YOU RESTORE IT BACK TO WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS, IT WAS, THERE WERE NO TREES.
SO IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO SEE HOW MANY TREES HAVE GROWN UP.
AND WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN REMOVING ANY, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS A PRESERVE.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I, I WAS AT THE MEETING, I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS SINCE, AND I'VE EXPRESSED TO THEM THAT I, I ALSO CARE ABOUT THIS, THIS SPACE AND WILL DO MY BEST TO PROVIDE GOOD OVERSIGHT.
AND, UM, SO I FEEL CONFIDENT WITH MOVING FORWARD AFTER THIS, THIS MEETING.
I THINK WE SPENT A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR TOGETHER.
UM, BUT I APPRECIATED STAFF'S TIME AND THE TIME OF, UM, THESE VOLUNTEERS WHO YES.
YEARS AGO, UM, SET OUT TO DO THIS AND PRESERVE THIS LAND.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND EVERYBODY'S AN EXPERT, RIGHT, FRANK? YEAH.
UH, YOU KNOW, RESTORATION IS A TOUGH WORD.
IT MEANS A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT ONE THING IS CLEAR FROM THE MOU, THIS IS NOT A PRESERVE THAT'S NEVER AGAIN TOUCHED BY MANKIND AS LONG AS ANYBODY LIVES.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND THE RESTORATION PART, OR THE PART ABOUT DEALING WITH INVASIVE SPECIES IS THE BIODIVERSITY THAT'S CREATED FROM THAT IS MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT IT IS.
NOW IF WE LOOK AT IT, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S AFRAID OF, OF HOW THAT'S GONNA BE DONE, MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER WAY, BETTER THING TO ADDRESS.
BUT, BUT ACTUALLY THE WILDLIFE AS WELL AS THE TREE AND PLANT LIFE PROSPER GREATER ONCE THIS RESTORATION AND INVASIVE SPECIES ARE REMOVED.
AND THE ONLY REASON WHY IS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN THE SOIL AND OUR SOIL'S NOT EXACTLY RICH.
IT'S COMPETITION FOR EVERY BIT OF NUTRIENT, SUNLIGHT, AIR, EVERYTHING.
AND IF WE DON'T REMOVE SOME OF THAT, THE REST OF IT'S GONNA SUFFER.
SO IT, IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION I THINK OF HOW, NOT WHETHER AND IF, AND, UM, I, I, I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A ENGAGED EXPERTS AND SO FORTH TO LOOK AND, AND TO DO THAT.
BUT I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO, THIS IS A GREAT THING FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN INPUT, MUCH LIKE WE DID WITH STREET AND ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IT, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO URBAN FORESTRY TO EDUCATE, PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION TO PEOPLE OF THE GOOD THAT COMES FROM THESE EFFORTS, NOT DAMAGE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING.
WE LOOK AT A STAND OF, UH, REDWOOD
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RED CEDARS, FOR INSTANCE.WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE BUNNIES LIVE UNDER THERE.
BUT ONE OF THOSE RED CEDARS SUCKS BETWEEN SIX AND 20 GALLONS OF WATER OUT OF THE EARTH.
NOW THINK ABOUT A STAND OF THOSE THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYTHING.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOIL EROSION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT.
SO, UM, I APPLAUD YOU AND HOPE YOU, UH, GO FORTH WITH THIS GRANT AND, AND, AND LOOK AT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
AND ONE THING I WILL ALSO MENTION IS THAT, UM, REMOVING SOME OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES HELPS REDUCE THE FIRE RISK, WHICH WE DEFINITELY HAVE THERE.
UM, MAKE IT SAFER IN CASE WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF WILDFIRES, BUT WE'RE NOT REMOVING PLANT LIFE FROM THERE.
ANYTHING THAT WE'RE REMOVING WE'RE THEN GOING BACK AND SEEDING OR PLANTING AND PLANTING SAPLINGS AND SO FORTH OF NATIVE GRASSES, NATIVE GREAT POINT, NATIVE TREES AND SO FORTH.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT DEVELOPING THE AREA, IT'S JUST CHANGING THE ECOSYSTEM.
IT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL TO THIS AREA IS ALL.
SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO KIND OF WRAP THIS UP IS HEARING THAT THE IDEA IS WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO SO MUCH A YEAR.
THIS GIVES ALL OF US THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WANNA DO IT RIGHT.
IT GIVES YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO WATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING AND CONTINUE TO TALK TO PARKS DEPARTMENT, CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE PARK BOARD, CONTINUE TO TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, LET US KNOW IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS ONE.
UM, AND IT'S AMAZING THAT ALL OF THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ALL OF THIS HAS TRANSPIRED OUT OF A DESIRE TO DO NOTHING MORE, BUT CHANGE A DATE ON AN AGREEMENT, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING.
SO YEAH, THIS IS JUST THE, THE GRANT AGREEMENT, BUT YES.
UM, BUT I THINK IT DID OPEN UP THE BROADER CONCERNS AND I THINK IT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO, UM, COMMUNICATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE AS STAFF ARE IMAGINING OF THE PLACE BEING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CITIZENS AND WHAT THEIR EXPECTATION IS.
SO IT WAS GREAT RECEIVING ALL THE FEEDBACK WE DID.
I JUST, I, SATURDAY I HAD A CITIZEN, UH, SHE WROTE ME A LETTER AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION, UH, ABOUT THIS SUBJECT AND I READ HER LETTER AND READ IT AGAIN.
UH, SHE MADE SOME VERY VALID POINTS AND I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S SINGING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC HERE.
AND, UH, AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING THAT AND HAVING A CHAT AND, UH, TALKING TO THE CONSERVANCY TRUST AND OTHERS, AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, PARKS AND URBAN FORESTRY AND, AND, AND THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST TO YOU OR TO US, ENGAGE THEM AND LET'S JUST KEEP HOLDING HANDS AS WE GO DOWN THAT PATH.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP.
BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING REGULARLY AS THIS PROJECT EVOLVES AND AS WE GET INTO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY COMING IN THERE WITH A GOOD PLAN, BUT DELIVERING IT AND, UH, MONITORING, DOING KIND OF POSTMORTEM TO SEE THAT WE DID IT CORRECTLY BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE NEXT PERCENTAGE OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? THANK YOU.
WE'RE NOW ONTO 10 P CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE FOR CONTINUED CITYWIDE LEASE FOR DIGITAL MULTIFUNCTION DEVICES, SERVICES, SUPPLIES, MONTHLY COPY VOLUMES WITH IMAGENET CONSULTING LLC THROUGH STATE CONTRACT SW 1 0 1 3.
THERE'S NO REASON TO COME UP HERE.
UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT'S FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27.
SO WITH THAT SAID, AND WE PASSED IT IN PUBLIC WORKS.
CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION? NO PROOF.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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PASSES.WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 10 S CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF HEALTH SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH REMEDY HEALTH PLLC FOR AN ONSITE CLINIC PROVIDER IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,075,151.
MR. FRAME, YOU ASKED THAT WE PULL THIS ONE JUST FOR A COMMENT OR TWO.
WELL, I, I, WITH THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD LOOK AT USAGE OF THE CLINIC, TRY TO DETERMINE VALUE THEREOF.
AND IN ADDITION, WITHIN, WITHIN THAT, UH, SECTION, THERE WAS A NOTE THAT GLP ONE DRUG IS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD THING.
I KNOW LOTS OF PLANS HAVE AT LEAST REQUIRED HEAVIER COPAY OR SOME HAVE, HAVE DONE OTHER THINGS WITH IT, BUT I THINK IT, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF THE PLAN YEAR, I BELIEVE.
BUT AT SOME POINT, IT, IT MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND, AND SEE IF ADJUSTMENTS COULD BE, SHOULD BE, OR WHETHER THE WAY IT IS NOW IS PERFECT.
AND, AND WE NEED TO, I MEAN, OUR, OUR, AS A SELF-INSURED FUND, WE'RE GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION WITH OUR BALANCE.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM AND DO IT CORRECTLY.
SO I'LL JUST SAY VERY QUICKLY, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING EXACTLY THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF OUR NEXT OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM S SECOND? I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. MOORE, YOU HAVE THE CHAIR ON THIS ONE.
ITEM U IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ENGAGEMENT LETTER FOR ANNUAL AUDITING SERVICES WITH HSPG AND ASSOCIATES PC TO PROVIDE ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDITING SERVICES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 25 26, 100 $30,000.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM U I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ITEM U IS APPROVED FOUR TO ZERO.
UH, I GUESS I'M STILL DOING THIS.
UH, THAT, UH, WE'VE, IS HE BACK? YEAH, I'M BACK CHAIN.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 11, CITY COUNCIL.
DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ITEMS. ITEM 11 B,
[B. Consideration and Approval of Annual Service / Supply Contract Renewals (Citywide): Quicklime Chemical for Water Treatment Plant for an Estimated Annual Amount of $300,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Miscellaneous EMT Supplies for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $72,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Paint Striping and Removal for Field Services - Traffic for an Estimated Annual Amount of $162,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; Street and Security Light Installations for Electric and Traffic Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $210,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; As-Needed Water System Repair Services for the Field Services - Water Line / Wastewater Line Maintenance Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $1,600,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; Root Control Services for Field Services - Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $240,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; Wastewater System Repairs for Field Services - Waste Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $600,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; Water Meters for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Ductile Iron Pipe for Field Services - Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $240,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; MJ Restraints for Field Services - Water Line Maintenance for an Estimated Annual Amount of $6,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; MJ Solid Sleeve Couplings for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $36,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Fire Hydrants for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Full Circle Clamps for Field Services for an Estimated Annual Amount of $36,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Miscellaneous Tree Services for Various City Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $220,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Decorative, Street, and Security Lights for Various City Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $180,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Traffic Sign Posts / Hardware for Field Services - Traffic for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 2 of Contract; Bunker Gear for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $78,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; As-Needed Overhead Electrical Distribution Projects for the Electric Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $2,000,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Station / Work Uniforms for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 3 of Contract; Safety Apparel for the Fire Department for an Estimated Annual Amount of $60,000.00; Year 5 of Contract; Turf Repair Service for Various City Departments for an Estimated Annual Amount of $75,000.00; Year 4 of Contract; and Wholesale Electric Purchases for the Electric Department for an Estimated Annual Cost of $70,513,475.00.]
CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF ANNUAL SERVICE SUPPLY CONTRACT RENEWALS.THIS IS COMPANION ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS MEETING.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? UNLESS YOU WANNA DISCUSS IT SOME MORE.
CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION? NO PROOF.
[C. Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 26-26 Declaring the Necessity for Acquiring Certain Real Property within the City of Edmond, Oklahoma for Public Use, and Authorizing Acquisition by Eminent Domain. (Coffee Creek Interceptor – Phase 2 – Parcels 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4, San Ysidro, LLC; Citywide)]
CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 6 2 6 2 6 DASH 26 DECLARING THE NECESSITY FOR ACQUIRING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA FOR PUBLIC USE AND AUTHORIZING ACQUISITION BY IMMINENT DOMAIN AS PART OF THE COFFEE CREEK INTERCEPTOR.PHASE TWO PROJECT PARCELS 8.2.
UM, I'M SHOWING STAFF COMMENTS HERE.
WHO'S, WHO'S GOING EXPLAIN THIS ONE TO US.
UM, CHRIS ING'S AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
CHRIS KNIFING, DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES.
UM, THESE TWO ITEMS ARE PART OF THE COFFEE CREEK INTERCEPTOR PROJECT.
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I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE ON THIS IS COMES BACK TO WHAT I THINK ME, ME AND MR. FRAME HAVE ASKED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, AND THAT'S, IS THIS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE AT THE 11TH HOUR AND WE'RE HAVING TO DO SOMETHING, UM, AFTER MAKING AN INITIAL OFFER, AND THEN WE SIT AROUND FOR TWO YEARS AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE PANICKED OR HAVE WE TRULY BEEN WORKING HARD AT GETTING THIS ONE RESOLVED? WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND THE COMPANION ITEM FOR FOUR YEARS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN RE-ENGAGED WITH THE TWO THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST, I, WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE RECENT THINGS WHERE LET, LET'S, I THINK IT HELPS IF WE GET REALLY GOOD EVALUATION APPRAISALS FROM SOMEBODY.
IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH WHO YOU'RE USING, LET'S FIND SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN CLOSE TO WHERE WE STARTED.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT REAL, WHERE THE DELAY GETS COMES INTO PLAY.
YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON UPDATING OUR PRACTICES.
UM, SO WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU WHEN THAT'S READY.
I'M JUST, I MEAN, MY COMMENT WOULD BE, I'M JUST NOT SO SURE THAT FARMING THIS OUT TO A THIRD PARTY TO START THE CONVERSATION IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
UM, BECAUSE WE SEEM TO SEE A SITUATION WHERE THIRD PARTIES ARE GOING IN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REALLY LOW BALLING OR NOT, BUT, UM, IT'S KINDA LIKE THE OPTION IS, HEY, HERE'S WHAT YOU GET, OR WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE IT.
AND THAT'S NOT THE CITY'S POSITION.
WE WANT TO WORK TO A REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS WITH.
SO YES, STAFF SETS THE INITIAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS, NOT OUR CONSULTANT.
SO, AND THEN WE DO WORK WITH THEM THROUGHOUT TO HAVE OFFERS AND COUNTER OFFERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I MAKE A MOTION TO AGREE, MR. MAYOR.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[D. Consideration of Approval of Resolution No. 27-26 Declaring the Necessity for Acquiring Certain Real Property within the City of Edmond, Oklahoma for Public Use, and Authorizing Acquisition by Eminent Domain (Coffee Creek Interceptor – Phase 2 – Parcels 25.1, 25.2, and 25.3), Henderson Acquisitions, LLC. (Citywide)]
D CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TWO SEVEN DASH 26 DECLARING THE NECESSITY FOR REQUIRING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF EDMOND, OKLAHOMA FOR PUBLIC USE AND AUTHORIZING ACQUISITION BY EMINENT DOMAIN C CREEK INTERCEPT PHASE TWO PARCELS 25.1, 25.2, AND 25.3.THIS IS THE EXACT SAME SITUATION.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. MAYOR.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[E. Presentation and Discussion of the Proposed Process for Adoption of the Unified Development Code. (Citywide)]
E PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED PROCESS FOR ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.MR. BRYAN, SARAH MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
KEN BRYAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THIS ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.
I JUST WANNA SHARE A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
FIRST, I WANNA RECOGNIZE, UM, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, BECCA SMITH.
SHE'S BEEN, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS PROJECT FOR, UM, GOING ON FOUR YEARS NOW.
AND WITHOUT HER COMMITMENT TO THIS, UM, THIS PROJECT, WE WOULDN'T BE, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE.
UM, QUICK OVERVIEW, WHAT IS THE UDC THAT IS COME TO MEAN BOTH THE PROCESS AND THE END RESULT, WHICH IS A, A DELIVERABLE OR DOCUMENT, UM, IMPORTANT UPDATES TO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHEN WE REFER TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE'RE REFERRING IN WHOLE TO TITLES 21, WHICH IS SUBDIVISION TITLE 22, ZONING, TITLE 23, STORMWATER DRAINAGE.
THOSE WILL BE UPDATED AND COMBINED AND WILL BECOME TITLE 26 UP HERE ON THE STATUS OF THE DRAFT.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN EAGERLY WAITING THE NEXT FULL REVISION OF THE DRAFT.
UM, OUR CONSULTANT TEAM'S LAST UPDATE ON THAT FROM LAST WEEK IS THAT DRAFT HAS BEEN, UH, TURNED OVER TO THEIR QUALITY CONTROL GROUP AND WE SHOULD EXPECT IT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO, UM, ONCE WE'RE SATISFIED WITH THIS, UH, STATUS OF THAT, UH, INCOMING DRAFT,
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WE WILL TAKE THIS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.SO THOSE INCLUDE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE URBAN BOARD, UH, THE DIRK, OR THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT DOCUMENT, TALK ABOUT THOSE COMPONENTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THESE GROUPS, UH, GET ANY FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO ADOPTION.
WE'LL INCORPORATE ANY CHANGES AS APPROPRIATE FROM THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO TAKE ACTION WOULD BE IN OCTOBER.
UH, WE'LL BE REQUIRED TO ABOLISH THE CODE IN FULL IN THE OKLAHOMAN.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO, TO SET THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CODE 180 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION.
DURING THAT 180 DAY TRANSITION PERIOD, WE'LL HAVE WORK TO DO.
THAT INCLUDES, UM, FINISHING UPDATES TO INTERNAL ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE APPLICATIONS, UM, ON OUR APPLICATION PORTAL MAPS SUCH AS THE ZONING MAP AND OTHER, OTHER IMPORTANT COMPONENTS RELATED TO GUIDING, UM, APPLICANTS AND CITIZENS.
THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL RELATED CODE AMENDMENTS TO PREPARE AND UPDATE TO UPDATE THE ZONING DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT OTHER SECTIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL CODES SUCH AS SIGNS AND OUTDOOR SELLERS AND SEVERAL OTHERS.
WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SOME APPROPRIATE UPDATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ADMIN PLAN DURING THAT PERIOD.
WE'LL ALSO, UH, PROPOSE TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS FOR PLATS AND SITE PLANS UNDER THE CURRENT CODE OR WHAT WILL BECOME THE OLD CODE.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS APPLICANTS MAY BE WORKING ON THOSE ENGINEERING DETAILS AT THIS TIME AND WE DON'T FEEL IT WOULD BE, UM, JUDICIOUS TO THE PROCESS TO ADOPT A NEW CODE.
AND THEN THEY COME IN WITH THEIR APPLICATION AND WE SAY, WELL, THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A NEW CODE FOR YOU TO, UH, WORK THROUGH.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS FOR ZONING UNDER THE OLD CODE.
WE CAN IMMEDIATELY START ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR ZONING AS APPROPRIATE UNDER THE UDC.
THOSE ARE THE KEY COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADOPTION PROCESS AS PROPOSED.
BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR A COUPLE? SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I, I HEARD YOU RIGHT.
I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE NEW OLD CODE BULLET.
SO I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S PROBABLY SOME DISCRETION IN THERE, BUT IF PEOPLE, THE CUTOFF IS LIKE APPLICATION SUBMITTAL BEFORE OR AFTER THAT ADOPTION POINT PERIOD, IS THAT, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT CORRECTLY.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS THAT, UM, SO COUNSEL ADOPTS THE NEW CODE.
IT HAS A BUNCH OF NEW DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.
IF YOU'RE AN APPLICANT TEAM AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THOSE ENGINEERING DETAILS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE AND LANDSCAPING, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE, UM, WE WANT TO ALLOW YOU TO COME IN OVER A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME YEAH.
WITH YOUR A APPLICATION YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
SO IT'S KIND OF DISCRETION ON, WE DON'T LIKE TO USE HOW MUCH IT MIGHT AFFECT THEM.
DON'T, WE DON'T LIKE TO USE THAT WORD.
LOOK AT, LOOK AT IT WAS A WRONG FACT.
AND THEN I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN GROUPS ON THE FIRST DRAFT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT'S GONE.
SO WE HAD THOSE TOWN HALLS, THE OFFICE HOURS IN MARCH ON THAT FULL DRAFT.
UM, ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THAT PERIOD'S BEEN FOLDED INTO THIS NEXT DRAFT.
UM, THAT WE'LL BE SEEING SOON.
UM, AND I'M STILL GONNA WANT MORE INFO ON THE WAS AND IS JUST TO REITERATE WHAT I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, UH, WHEN IT COMES THROUGH.
AND THEN I JUST REITERATING AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE METHODICAL APPROACH HERE, TAKING THE INPUT, NOT RUSHING IT THROUGH, AND THEN ALSO THE WEEKLY EMAILS THAT YOU'RE SENDING THAT CITY MANAGER FORWARDS US WITH LITTLE, UH, PORTIONS OF IT.
SO WE CAN KIND OF LEARN AS WE GO HERE.
MR. MAYOR, COULD WE, UH, PLAN FOR A WORKSHOP ON THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
WE MAY WIND UP HAVING SEVERAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BRYANT.
[F. Discussion and Consideration of Directing City Staff to Develop a Future Agenda Item to Fund Repairs at the Competitive Swimming Pool Facility at Mitch Park. (Ward 4)]
F DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO DEVELOP A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO FUND REPAIRS AT THE COMPETITIVE SWIMMING POOL FACILITY AT MITCH PARK.WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL CITIZENS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
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UM, MR. KRIEGER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF TELL US WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT FROM, FROM WHERE YOU SIT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD? SURE.UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, WITH THE YMCA AND OF COURSE, UH, SCOTT AND CHRIS FROM THE YMCA ARE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, UH, FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW TO, UH, TRY AND IMPLEMENT SOME, UH, SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WE IMPLEMENTED, UH, SOME TEMPORARY MEASURES THAT WE, UH, THOUGHT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
IT TURNS OUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, THE SYSTEM IS GENERALLY PLAGUED BY WHAT'S GENERALLY CHARACTERIZED AS THE, UH, INADEQUACY OF THE, UH, GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM.
AND SO, UM, THE YMCA, I'M NOT SURE WHO, WHO THE, UH, UH, INVENTOR OF THE, UH, AUTHOR OF THE, UH, PLAN WAS.
BUT THE YMCA HAS COME UP WITH A, WITH AN APPROACH TO ACTUALLY, UH, REPLACE, UH, SOME OF THE HV UH, AC UNITS AND PUT 10 ROOFTOP UNITS IN PLACE.
UM, AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, WE'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON THAT PLAN NOW FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.
AND WHAT I HAVE ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, COUNCIL'S, UH, INTENT, I BELIEVE IS EXPRESSED TO THE YMCA, THAT THE CITY WOULD FUND UP TO HALF OF THAT OR UP TO, UH, NO MORE THAN $200,000.
AND THE EXPECTATION IS IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT.
BUT JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF BREATHING ROOM.
SO IN TERMS OF SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE, UH, TO THE AGENDA ITEM AND THE TITLE OF IT TONIGHT, I DO BELIEVE THAT IN AUGUST WE'LL BRING YOU, UM, AN ITEM TO APPROVE, UM, FOR THE SPECIFIC FUNDING OF THE ROOFTOP UNITS.
UH, I THINK THE EXPECTATION, AND SCOTT AND OR CHRIS CAN CORRECT ME, BUT THE EXPECTATION IS, UM, WELL, NOT NECESSARILY A PERMANENT FINAL SOLUTION.
IT'S, IT'S A 10 TO 15 YEAR SOLUTION THAT PROBABLY ALONG WITH SOME OTHER, UH, MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD BE PERFORMED SUCH THAT THE FACILITY WILL BE USABLE, IT'LL BE A BETTER QUALITY, MUCH MORE TOLERABLE ON THE INSIDE, UH, FOR COMPETITORS AND FOR, UH, SPECTATORS.
BUT WE'LL BRING YOU SOMETHING I EXPECT IN, UM, UH, IN AUGUST.
WE'LL, WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET IT ON THE 10TH.
IF IT'S NOT READY BY THE 10TH, WE EXPECT IT'LL BE READY FOR THE 24TH.
I, UH, MS. MEREDITH, YOU, WHAT'D YOU TELL ME THE TEMPERATURE OF THAT WATER? UH, THE ROOM WAS IN THERE, OR DOCTOR MAYBE YOU, WAS IT YOU, I DON'T KNOW, 20 DEGREES IN THE BUILDING? IN THE BUILDING UP AT THE STANDS THIS WEEK ON TUESDAY, MY SON, I'M SORRY, THIS WEEK ON TUESDAY, MY SON, UH, WAS SWIMMING AT 8:00 AM I WENT IN TO READ THE LIFEGUARD, UM, THERMOMETER AND THE LIFEGUARD THERMOMETER READ 92 DEGREES AT 8:00 AM IN THE POOL, ALONG WITH 76% HUMIDITY AT THAT TIME.
SO WHEN YOU PUT THAT IN AND YOU FIGURE IT OUT, IT WAS ABOUT 103 DEGREES ON THE POOL DECK AT 8:00 AM IN THE MORNING.
WELL, AS I TOLD YOU LADIES BEFORE THE MEETING, I SAID, HELP'S ON THE WAY.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE FELLOWS ARE FROM THE YMCA.
THEY, UH, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
YOUR MEMBERSHIPS APPRECIATES IT, UH, HELPS ON THE WAY AND IT'S NOT OVERNIGHT.
AND I WANT YOU TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS OR A MONTH AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, BUT I TOLD THE MAYOR, I TOLD THE CITY MAYOR, I TOLD ANYBODY WHO'D LISTENED TO ME FOR THE LAST SEVEN SATURDAYS.
I'VE HAD EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, I'VE HAD SO MANY EMAILS, CAN'T ANSWER 'EM ALL.
AND I KEEP TRYING TO ASSURE PEOPLE WE'RE GONNA FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
AND, UH, IT'S TAKEN LONGER THAN I'D HOPED AND IT'S GONNA TAKE LONGER STILL.
AND OUR PARTNERS AT THE Y-M-C-A-I, I SPOKE TO MR. K THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, NINE 30 AT NIGHT, WELL PAST MY BEDTIME.
AND I, I WANTED HIM TO KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT EACH OF YOU'RE DOING, SO THANK YOU.
AND I HAD A CHAT WITH A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA GET THIS THING FIGURED OUT.
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PARENTS ARE ANGRY.JUST LIKE, I THINK IT WAS ONE OF YOU BROUGHT UP THE LOST REVENUE FOR THE CITY, THE STAIN ON THE REPUTATION OF THE CITY AND THE, WE'VE JUST GOTTA GET SOMETHING GOING HERE.
AND I'M REALLY TICKLED THAT WE HAD THAT YOU WERE HERE TONIGHT AND, UH, YOU KEPT IT TOGETHER PRETTY GOOD.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA GO A LITTLE MORE FUSSY IN THAT.
VERY, UH, SO, UH, ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LET'S GET THIS THING GOING.
AND QUICKLY, UM, I GUESS IF IT HAD HA IF THIS HAS HAPPENED AT, IF, IF THIS HAD HAPPENED AT MY WORKPLACE, WE WOULD BE SAYING, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? AND HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN? SO MAYBE THAT'S OLD HISTORY AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO, IT'S NOT LIKE ATTRIBUTION, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVING FORWARD, HAVE A PLAN FOR MAINTENANCE OF GEOTHERMAL OR MAINTENANCE OF ROOFTOP UNITS.
AND OF COURSE A LONGER TERM, LONGER TERM PLAN TO PROVIDE THE, UH, COOLING CAPACITY WE NEED IN THE BUILDING.
BUT NEAR TERM, I GUESS I JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW LIKE WHO, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AND WHAT IS OUR PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO THIS SITUATION AGAIN IN SIX.
'CAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW WHERE WE'RE LIMPING ALONG AND, AND PARENTS ARE STILL COMPLAINING.
SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S MY ASK, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT JUST I THINK WE KIND OF OWE IT TO THE PUBLIC TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THIS AND HERE'S HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T KEEP HAPPENING.
I GUESS IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO, UH, SPEAK, I'LL KIND OF CLOSE IT OUT BY SAYING, UNLESS YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, I, I JUST WANNA SAY I THINK WE CAN GO A STEP FURTHER.
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, NOT WILL, THIS TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS HAS TAKEN, TAKEN A LONG TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE GREAT.
I THINK THEY'RE, THEY, THEY WORK WELL MOST OF THE TIME.
AT THE SAME TIME AS THE OLD SAYING GOES, THERE'S A GOOD REASON GOD DIDN'T CREATE THE WORLD BY COMMITTEE.
AND SO GETTING EVERYBODY TO MOVE THE SAME DIRECTION AT THE SAME TIME IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT.
AND THE Y HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER.
I'VE BEEN IN SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND, AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO FIND, I THINK ALONG WITH CHRIS, CHRIS HAS BEEN IN THEM, LOTS OF PEOPLE.
WHAT IS THE BEST SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD? NOT JUST WHAT IS A SOLUTION AND, AND SOMETIMES THAT, THAT'S, I GUESS THAT CAN DIFFER BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS.
BUT I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK NOW AND, UH, I THINK YOU'LL, YOU GUYS WILL BE PLEASED.
UM, SO CERTAINLY IS GONNA BE BETTER THAN ANYTHING IS.
I TOLD CITY MANAGER WE'D BE BETTER WITH AN OUTDOOR POOL.
UM, SO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HANGING IN THERE.
IT IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE IMPROVE AND FAIRLY FAST.
YEAH, MR. MR. MOORE OPENED THIS CAN ASKING SOMEONE TO COME FORWARD BEFORE, SO SURE.
I THINK SHE DO IT
WHERE IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO THEY HAVE? SO YOU WANNA TAKE THIS ONE OR YOU WANT ME TO? I HAVE ONE THING I WANNA SAY.
EVERY TIME I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC AS I AND MS. MURDOCH NICHOLS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE I WRAP THIS UP OR ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY.
THERE IS A THIRD PARTNER IN THIS.
AND OUR EXPECTATION IS WHATEVER THE AGREEMENT IS ON
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HOW WE HANDLE THIS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GONNA STEP IN HERE.AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN TWO OF THE THREE PARTNERS ARE SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING IT DONE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH THE THIRD PARTNER IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES.
I DON'T EXPECT THAT FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT I'VE TALKED TO NOW, AND I'VE TALKED TO THREE OF THE FIVE OF THEM AT THIS POINT, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THIS GETS DONE AS WELL.
UM, I THINK LONG TERM WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE WAY WE MANAGE THIS WHOLE THING BECAUSE IT CAN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND JUST AS MR. WATERSON SAID, UM, WHAT HE DOES FOR A LIVING, WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING, THIS ISN'T ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE.
IT'S ABOUT WE'RE HERE, LEARN FROM IT AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT'S NOT PUT ANY BLAME ON WHAT HAPPENED, BUT LET'S GET OUT OF THIS AND LET'S MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN BE DOING WITH THAT POOL ECONOMICALLY FOR THIS CITY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ONLY ONE OF TWO POOLS IN THE STATE THAT CAN HANDLE THE TYPE OF SWIM MEETS YOU'RE TALK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I HEARD SOME THINGS TONIGHT ABOUT SOME NEW NUANCES IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE POOL AREA THAT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VISITING ABOUT.
WHETHER IT'S LOCKER ROOM SPACE OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE BEING MET WITH ALL THE PARTIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S SHOULD BE AN EASY THING FOR US TO WORK THROUGH.
I DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT OUTTA THE Y THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS TO DATE.
UM, WE'VE JUST GOTTA GET THERE.
AND THE FIRST THING IS, IS WE'VE GOTTA GET ROOFTOP UNITS ON THAT BUILDING TO COOL THE AIR DOWN.
SO, UM, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH BETWEEN A NONPROFIT AND A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION, ACTUALLY TWO GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO AS FAST AS WE'D LIKE, BUT WE GOTTA GET THERE.
SO THERE YOU, YOU'VE HEARD OUR COMMITMENT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON ANYTHING HERE OTHER THAN TO TELL MR. KRIEGER MOVE FORWARD AND BRING US SOMETHING? I THINK I, I'LL JUST ADD, UM, I, I THINK AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND A MOM, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I SIT ON A, THE VISIT EDMOND, UM, BOARD WITH CHRIS FERRY AND WE TALK ABOUT SPORTS TOURISM AND WE TALK ABOUT DOLLARS AND WE TALK ABOUT, BUT AS A MOM, LIKE WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE BEING HOT AND UNSAFE IN OUR POOL.
SO IF ANYTHING, I HAVE BEEN, UM, CONCERNED AND I KNOW THAT I EXCHANGED EMAILS AND, AND I SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE, HELP'S ON THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE BETTER THIS WEEKEND.
AND THEN I WOULD HEAR IT WAS STILL REALLY HOT AND PLENTY OF Y'ALL, PLENTY OF PARENTS AT THAT, AT THOSE MEETS HAVE MY NUMBER AND I WAS LIKE, UH, I WAS FRUSTRATED AND, UM, AND I'M SORRY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
UH, THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT EDMOND HAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE REALLY UNIQUE.
UM, NOT ALL CITIES HAVE PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE WITH THE Y ARE LOOKED AT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO WE'LL WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL GET THIS FIGURED OUT AND, UM, I WISH I COULD SNAP MY FINGERS AND AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
AND I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRAME SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT WOULD BE COOLER OUTSIDE.
AND YEAH, I MEAN WE JUST OPENED PELICAN BAY AND, UM, I'M A, I TRY TO BE A FIXER.
I'M LIKE, COULD WE JUST MOVE THAT TO PLIC BAY? BUT THAT IS NOT MY WHEELHOUSE.
I NEED TO LET OTHER PEOPLE FIGURE THAT OUT IN THE SAME WAY THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW GEOTHERMAL WORKS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MANY ROOFTOP, UM, UNITS WE NEED, BUT I DO TRUST OUR STAFF.
WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT WE GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT.
[G. Presentation and Discussion of Current City Council Strategic Plan Goals. (Citywide)]
ITEM 11 G PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION OF CURRENT CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
CASEY MOORE, DIRECTOR OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
SO TONIGHT, UH, WE WANT TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS STARTED, UH, LATE LAST YEAR.
UH, YOU GUYS MET THE FIRST PART OF DECEMBER, STARTED PUTTING TOGETHER YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE NOW, UH, FOR THIS FIRST PART OF THE YEAR.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO TONIGHT, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A, UH, PUBLIC REPORTING, UH,
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TOOL THAT, UH, IS GONNA BE OUT THERE THAT HAS ALL OF THE UPDATES THAT WERE PROVIDED TO YOU.UH, I WANNA SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HOW THAT'S SET UP.
JANE'S ACTUALLY WORKING THAT FROM THE OTHER, UH, ROOM.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT GOES SMOOTHLY BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.
UH, BUT WANNA SHOW YOU KIND OF HOW THAT LOOKS, HOW, HOW WE CAN, UH, GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC REGULARLY.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, WE SENT YOU GUYS, UM, ALL OF THE UPDATES.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU AT 7 45 IF YOU WANT TO GO ITEM BY ITEM, READ THROUGH EVERYTHING.
WHAT I THINK I'M GONNA OFFER YOU IS WHEN WE GET INTO EACH SECTION, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THE GOALS THAT ARE THERE, AND IF THERE ARE ANY THAT YOU GUYS WANNA DISCUSS, WE HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE THAT ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR IF YOU NEED TO DISCUSS THINGS AMONGST YOURSELVES, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, BUT I ALSO WANNA RESPECT YOUR TIME AND NOT KEEP YOU HERE TILL 10:00 PM.
UH, IF, UNLESS THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO, THEN, THEN WE'LL JUMP IN AND DO THAT.
SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU ALL, UH, WHEN WE GET THERE.
BUT, UM, SO THIS NEW, UH, THIS NEW PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, PART OF OUR, UH, PLATFORM, UH, WITH ZEN CITY THAT YOU'LL APPROVED SEVERAL MONTHS BACK.
UH, IT DOES SEVERAL THINGS NOT RELATED TO THIS, BUT ONE OF THESE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US, UH, WAS AN ENGAGEMENT PLATFORM.
AND SO BEFORE WE CLICK THROUGH ANY OF THIS, UH, YOU CAN SEE YOU GUYS HAD MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO THERE'S THE SIX SEC, THE SIX SESSION SECTIONS THAT ARE ALL IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE'LL CLICK THROUGH TO ONE OF THOSE.
SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE FLUID.
SO LANE AND ROAD CLOSURES, THAT'S A MAP BASED THING THAT CONSTANTLY UPDATES WHEN THERE ARE LANE OF ROAD CLOSURES HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE DO QUARTERLY UPDATES FOR PUBLIC AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND WE ALSO DO UPDATES FOR OUR TIF PROJECTS.
SO, UM, ALL THESE THINGS ARE GONNA LIVE HERE ON THE ENGAGEMENT.
AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER, THERE'S NOTHING THERE YET.
BUT, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE DO OUR NEXT COMMUNITY SURVEY AND WE DO OTHER COMMUNITY OUTREACH SURVEYS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THEY'RE GONNA BE BASED ON THIS PLATFORM.
WE'VE NOT DONE A, A HARD LAUNCH ON THIS OUT.
UH, THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF PULLED IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO KINDA LAUNCH THIS OUT AND, UH, HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO COME AND GET THIS INFORMATION.
SO, UH, JANE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND CLICKING ON FISCAL DILIGENCE.
SO THAT IS THE FIRST CATEGORY IN YOUR, YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE GOALS.
ON THE TOP RIGHT, ON ALL OF THESE PAGES, THERE'S THE STRATEGIC PLAN DOCUMENT.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS THE ACTUAL PDF, THEY CAN FIND THAT THERE.
UH, ALSO ON THAT RIGHT COLUMN, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WATCH, UH, TWO DAYS WORTH OF YOU ALL TALKING, UH, AND HOW WE GOT HERE, THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THAT ALL LIVES ON YOUTUBE AND WE'VE GOT THAT THERE AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF YOU LISTED DOWN BELOW.
WE DO NOT HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, LINKED THERE YET, BUT WE WILL DO THAT SOON SO PEOPLE CAN ALSO REACH OUT.
SO THE, THE BULK OF, OF EACH OF THESE PAGES, THERE ARE THE GOALS.
UH, WITHIN THIS ONE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE FOUR GOALS.
SO, UH, THESE ARE ALL ACCORDION STYLES, SO YOU CAN CLICK ONE, OPEN THAT UP, AND THERE'S YOUR JULY PROGRESS UPDATES.
UH, THE PLAN IS FOR US TO, FROM STAFF GET THESE QUARTERLY.
SO WE WOULD GO IN, UPDATE EACH OF THESE GOALS QUARTERLY WITH NEW UPDATES.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE EACH ONE OF THOSE HAS, HAS THE UPDATES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.
YOU CAN ALSO OPEN ALL OF THEM UP AT ONE TIME.
UM, WHEN WE GET NEW UPDATES AT THE NEXT QUARTER, WE'LL PULL ALL OF THOSE JULY UPDATES OUT, WE'LL PUT 'EM IN A NEW DOCUMENT, AND IT'S GONNA LIVE OVER THERE IN THAT DOCUMENT SECTION UNDERNEATH STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD SAY, UM, 2026, UH, QUARTER ONE UPDATES OR QUARTER TWO UPDATES SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A LIVING HISTORY IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO BACK AND KIND OF FOLLOW THE HISTORY OF THOSE THERE.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE PAGES IS SET UP EXACTLY THE SAME WAY YOU CAN GO IN.
AND, AND THE IDEA BEING THAT EVERY, EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU, ALL THAT IS IN THE PACKET IS, IS ALL RIGHT HERE AND IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL, BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL FOR THE, THE PUBLIC TO GET THE UPDATES AS WE'RE WORKING ON THESE THINGS.
SO, AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH THE GOALS TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS CHANGED THINGS UP THIS LAST YEAR.
THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A, THERE, THERE'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THE GOALS AND HOW THEY'RE WRITTEN.
IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A PROJECT LIST.
SO WHEN WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST, IT'S REALLY A LOT OF UPDATES ON PROJECTS.
AND SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD CREATE A PRESENTATION, WE'D WORK THROUGH THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE THINGS TO GET DONE AND SOME HAVE HAPPENED, SOME ARE IN PROCESS, AND SOME OF THESE, THE WAY THEY'RE WRITTEN ARE, ARE REALLY LONG TERM AND, AND HAPPEN OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
SO, UM, I GUESS IF, IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR IF YOU WANT TO GO ONE BY ONE, I'M GONNA STOP TALKING AND LET YOU ALL DECIDE IF WE JUST WANT TO TACKLE THINGS WITHIN EACH ONE OF THESE THAT YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, OR IF YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH AND READ EVERYTHING ON EVERY ONE OF THESE.
UM, I'M GONNA LISTEN AT THIS POINT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
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I KNOW YOU HAVE COMMENTS, MR. WATERSON, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE START.I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM.
I PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER NOT GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
I'D RATHER TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS.
LET US HAVE TIME TO DIGEST ALL THIS AND LET'S TALK ABOUT MAYBE WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE AND WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE MISSING FROM ALL OF THIS STILL, IF WE HAVE FEEDBACK ON SPECIFIC ITEMS, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US TO CONVEY THAT BACK TO STEPH? I THINK, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER, DID YOU EMAIL THAT OUT TO THEM OR DID THAT COME FROM JANE? IT CAME FROM EITHER EITHER AJ OR JANE AND MYSELF.
I THINK IT'S WHATEVER, HOWEVER YOU WANT.
I MEAN, I, I THINK WHEN IT'S RIGHT, I, I PROBABLY HAVE SOME OVERARCHING QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF HOW YOU EXPECT THIS PLAN TO EVOLVE AND HOW DOES IT LIVE AND HOW DOES IT CHANGE OVER TIME.
UM, WE PROBABLY WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CITIZEN SURVEY AND WHAT ZEN CITY, UM, CAN DO FOR US IN THAT REGARD.
BUT IT, IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND, AND HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DIRECT FUTURE DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK MAYBE I'LL JUST MAKE ONE OVERARCHING COMMENT AND THEN I DO WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT SOME, THERE WERE A LOT OF 'EM THAT WERE NO UPDATE OR KIND OF GENERIC LANGUAGE WITHOUT A REAL PLAN.
AND SO, I MEAN, JUST SOME EXAMPLES.
THE ROADS PLAN, THE UTILITY CAPACITY, ARCADIA, INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FESTIVAL, MARKETPLACE HOUSING STUDY, THEY'RE JUST, IT, THERE'S NO, LIKE, SO WHAT THAT WENT WITH IT.
SO WE'RE STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND IS IT JUST LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET TO 'EM WHEN WE GET TO 'EM, OR DO WE HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE? IS THERE A TARGET FOR A WORKSHOP OR LIKE ON THE IMPACT FEE STUDY, IT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE PLAN TO BRING YOU SOMETHING LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL.
BUT JUST A LOT OF 'EM DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
AND SO I WAS TRYING TO, OR MAYBE IT'S LIKE REALISTICALLY WE CAN'T GET TO IT THIS YEAR.
LIKE MAYBE THAT'S AN OKAY ANSWER.
BUT, UH, JUST GENERALLY KIND OF WONDERING FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE OR REALLY A, A DUE DATE SORT OF MENTIONED, WHAT ARE WE DOING AND WHERE ARE WE GOING? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WAS A LOT OF MY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
WERE KIND OF SEEKING A LITTLE MORE INFO.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK GOING THROUGH EACH ONE AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 'EM, TRADITIONALLY WE'VE DONE THAT IN A WORKSHOP SETTING, UH, SO THERE'S BEEN MORE TIME TO LET IT BREATHE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE'VE DONE LIKE A MIDYEAR UPDATE.
BUT AGAIN, AS YOU GUYS CHANGE THINGS THIS YEAR, IS, IS EVEN A MIDYEAR UPDATE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS? DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS QUARTERLY? WE'RE WE'RE REALLY OPEN TO, TO HOW YOU GUYS WANNA MANAGE THIS PLAN.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE HANDLE THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK OF MAKING SURE THINGS GET PUT TOGETHER AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S YOUR PLAN AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE AND, AND HELP STEWARD THAT THE BEST WAY WE CAN FOR YOU ALL.
I THINK I WOULD SAY I'M LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN THIS
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA NOT DO A WORKSHOP ON IT AND PUT IT AT THE END AND THEN NOT HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO TALK THROUGH STUFF, I'M LOOKING FOR A LITTLE MORE ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING, WHERE WE'RE HEADED, WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND THE DOCUMENT DOESN'T STAND ALONE ENOUGH TO DO THAT FOR ME TODAY.
THAT'S ALL FOR THE CURRENT ONE, I GUESS.
ANY THOUGHTS DOWN HERE? SO I CAN GO BACK TO WHERE WE ENDED OUR TWO DAYS BACK IN DECEMBER AND WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT, OKAY, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
AND WHERE THIS COUNCIL GOT HUNG UP AT THAT POINT WAS WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, SO HOW ARE WE GONNA MEASURE PROGRESS? AND MEASURING PROGRESS DOES NOT MEAN IT'S DONE OR IT'S NOT DONE OR A SUBJECTIVE, IT'S 50% DONE IT'S DATA.
W EDWARDS DEMING SAID, ACTUALLY AS IT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO HIM, AND HE READ, DIDN'T REALLY SAY IT, AND GOD, WE TRUST ALL OTHERS BRING DATA AND WE DON'T HAVE DATA HERE.
I VISITED WITH EACH OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TRYING TO COME TO WHERE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME NUMBERS THAT SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND WE ACTUALLY, AFTER A LOT OF ONE-ON-ONES BETWEEN ME AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE
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SITTING DOWN WITH AJ, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH AND SAY, HERE ARE FOUR KPIS, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS FOR THE CITY, THAT IF WE HAVE THESE NUMBERS, WE CAN SAY WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT STUFF OR NOT.AND THAT'S JUST AT THE VERY TOP.
THAT DOESN'T SAY WITHIN ANY INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT WHAT THEY NEED TO BE MEASURING TO SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND UNDER FISCAL DILIGENCE, WE SAID PERCENT OF BUDGET SPENT AND ENCUMBERED.
THAT'S A SIMPLE NUMBER THAT SAYS WHERE WE ARE IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN SECOND ONE IS GROWTH IN RESERVES.
WHETHER IT'S A POSITIVE GROWTH OR A NEGATIVE GROWTH.
TWO VERY SIMPLE NUMBERS THAT SAYS, ARE WE DOING BETTER OR NOT UNDER LONG-TERM COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM, NUMBER OF ROAD MILES SLASH SIDEWALKS COMPLETED OR IMPROVED, THAT'S MONTHLY AND YEAR TO DATE VERSUS THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO ARE WE DOING MORE, BASICALLY, ARE WE DOING MORE OR LESS AND PUT IT INTO A QUANTITATIVE NUMBER? AND THEN FINALLY ON STRATEGIC ECONOMIC GROWTH YEAR TO DATE, PERCENT CHANGE IN SALES TAX COLLECTIONS OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE REALLY OUGHT TO BE AT THE VERY TOP OF WHAT YOU JUST PRESENTED AS BASICALLY A DASHBOARD.
IF WE HAD THOSE FOUR, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.
ARE WE AT LEAST HEADED THE RIGHT DIRECTION? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
AND THEN WITHIN EACH OF THESE, WE WIND UP WITH, PART OF 'EM ARE GOALS TO BE ACHIEVED.
AND PART OF 'EM, AS YOU DIG THROUGH 'EM, YOU START FINDING THE THINGS THAT TRULY YOU CAN MEASURE.
AND IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE HARD DATA, IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO MEASURE, HOW DO YOU REALLY KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING BETTER OR NOT? AND, AND THAT'S OUR GOAL.
AND I KNOW IT'S A HUGE CHANGE FROM WHERE WE'VE BEEN AS AN ORGANIZATION AND I, I KNEW THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA GET THERE IN ONE SHOT.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT FROM ONE DAY TO TWO AND WE STILL DIDN'T GET THERE.
AND BE QUITE HONEST, IT'S GONNA TAKE US A LITTLE BIT TO LEARN HOW TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK THOSE FOUR ITEMS, IF WE CAN AT LEAST GET THEM IN THERE AND START REPORTING THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UM, IT'LL REALLY, IT'LL REALLY HELP US BECAUSE IT GIVES THE CITIZENS SOMETHING TO SEE AND IT GIVES US SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.
AND, AND ABSOLUTELY THE, THE PLATFORM WE CAN, WE CAN DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING WITH IT.
SO AS, AS YOU GUYS COME UP WITH MORE OF THOSE THINGS AND, AND WE'RE PROVIDED THOSE, WE'RE HAPPY TO TO TRACK ALL THAT AND, AND HAVE IT READY.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE THIS TO YOU SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH US TO, TO HEAR WHAT THOSE FOUR THINGS ARE.
I'M GONNA COME GRAB IT
AND I SPEAK WITH A LITTLE AUTHORITY HERE.
SO WE WANNA GET US THERE AND WE KNOW WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE.
WE MAY FIND OUT BY THE TIME WE GET TO THIS NEXT YEAR AND WE DO IT AGAIN LATER ON IN 2026, THAT IT'S NOT FOUR, IT'S FIVE, SIX OR SEVEN.
BUT WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE.
JUST THAT ALONE GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE NEEDLE'S MOVING.
YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT, THAT SET UP.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT SET UP.
AND OBVIOUSLY AS YOU GUYS COME UP WITH MORE OTHER THINGS, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO.
WE WANNA BE BE ABLE TO, TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER SO THAT THIS IS BEING REPORTED OUT THE WAY THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE REPORTED OUT.
I THINK ALSO THESE METRICS WILL HELP HOPEFULLY WITH, WITH SOME OF THE UPDATES TOO THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ON THESE, ON THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, UH, KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT YOU WANNA BE TRACKING AND WHAT YOU WANT TO MEASURE.
SO WE WELCOME ANY OF THAT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST HERE TO, TO SHEPHERD THE PLAN ALONG FOR YOU ALL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WELL, UM, I LIKE THIS PLATFORM.
UM, I THINK IT'S EASY TO NAVIGATE AND I GET THAT NUMBERS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE QUANTIFIED.
AND SO IT'S STILL, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I I AM OKAY STILL WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN WE SPENT TWO DAYS ON AND WITH THE ITEMS ON THERE.
I THINK PRESTON, YOU MENTIONED, UM, THAT YOU HAD SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT UPDATES ON, UM, SOME OF THE, THE PLANS THAT WE LAID OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF WE TALK ABOUT THAT NOW OR IF WE TALK
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ABOUT THOSE IN OUR ONE-ON-ONES WITH AJ, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, SPECIFIC UPDATES, UM, IT'S ABOUT HALF OF 'EM.SO I FIGURED IT WOULD TAKE A WHILE IF WE DID 'EM ALL.
WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO TONIGHT.
SO IT'S REALLY WHATEVER YOU ALL WOULD PREFER.
I WOULD SAY IF WE, WE'VE GOT THIS AS A STARTING POINT, I WOULD SAY IF WE START TALKING TO AJ ABOUT SPECIFIC ISSUES, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
I MEAN, NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE MEASURED.
AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SATISFACTION OF OUR CITIZENS, WHEN YOU TRY TO PUT A NUMBER TO IT, IT BECOMES A SUBJECTIVE NUMBER NO MATTER WHAT.
IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT GOALS ARE BEING ACCOMPLISHED FOR 'EM.
SO THE GOAL PIECE CAN'T BE REMOVED FROM THIS.
IT'S JUST THE NUMBERS GIVE YOU A FAST WAY TO SAY AT THE TOP.
RIGHT? SO WE STILL NEED ALL OF THIS.
AND I LOVE, I DO, I LIKE THIS FORMAT TOO.
IT'S JUST, I THINK WE JUST NEED AT THE TOP OF THE DASHBOARD SOME SOME KEY METRICS BECAUSE AS WE START MOVING FORWARD, WE WANT OUR DEPARTMENTS TO BE THINKING THAT WAY BECAUSE HARD DATA IS A WHOLE LOT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND ALONG WITH THOSE GOALS.
AND ARE WE GETTING PROJECTS ACCOMPLISHED AND WHATEVER IT IS MM-HMM
UM, AND MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IN SEPTEMBER, MAYBE MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT DEEPER TO KIND OF PRIME THE PUMP BEFORE WE GET TO TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
I I, SO WE ADOPTED THIS STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, SO I GUESS I WAS CONFUSED WHEN IT WAS SAID THAT THIS IS A GOOD START BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK THIS DOCUMENT IS WHAT WE ADOPTED AND PUBLISH.
AND SO, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE, LIKE SOME NUMBERS ADDED TO THIS PAGE THAT ARE BEING CONTINUALLY UPDATED IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THE PLAN GOES AWAY.
THE PLAN IS WHAT THE PLAN IS AND THAT'S WHAT DRIVES EVERYTHING WE DO.
BUT THEN YOU GOTTA HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU MEASURE IT TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE WE'D HATE TO BE FOCUSED ON ONE THING IN OUR PLAN, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN REVENUES ARE GOING DOWN.
OR WHEN WE DO THOSE CUSTOMER SERVICE SURVEYS, WE'RE UN WE'RE THE CITIZENS ARE UNHAPPY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, YOU NEED THE NUMBERS, BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GET IT AWAY FROM THE PLAN.
'CAUSE THE PLAN IS WHAT DRIVES IT.
AND I MEAN, I THINK A COUPLE OF US, ME AND PRESTON IN PARTICULAR COULD SHOW US FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO TAKE OUR PLAN AND PLUG IT INTO A SYSTEM THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE DEADLINES ARE AND HOW YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BUT WE'RE STILL LEARNING HOW TO ADAPT AS A ORGANIZATION TO A NEW WORLD WHERE WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS WHOLE STRATEGIC PLAN FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE THAN WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
AND SO WE GOTTA WALK OUR WAY INTO IT SLOWLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND APPROVED, WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON IT.
AND THEN JUST A FEW NUMBERS I THINK WILL HELP US SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
MARY, YOU MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, UH, A SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP, AND WE CAN DO THAT.
WOULD YOU, UH, AS PART OF THAT, WANT US TO GIVE YOU THAT, THAT STATUS OF THOSE FOUR, UH, THOSE FOUR PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS AND, AND USE THAT AS THE BASIS FOR THAT DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO START SEEING THOSE FOUR, THOSE FOUR KPIS EVERY MONTH.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A PIECE OF IT.
BECAUSE THEN WHEN YOU START TALKING IN A WORKSHOP ABOUT GOING INTO ANY ONE OF OUR SECTIONS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE, THE STRATEGIC GOALS WERE, ARE THEY HELPING US ACHIEVE THOSE, THOSE METRICS? 'CAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I MEAN, IF WE WERE A, IF WE WERE A VERY MATURE ORGANIZATION USING THIS LOGIC, WE WOULD HAVE METRICS ASSOCIATED WITH EVERYTHING IN HERE, AND THEY WOULD ALL FEED UP TO THOSE FOUR.
BUT WE'RE REAL EARLY IN, IN THE EVOLUTIONARY GAME OF THIS.
I MEAN, WE'RE CHANGING THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT IT INSTEAD OF PUTTING STARS ON THE PAGE AND SAYING THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, AND THEN SAYING, YES, IT'S DONE OR NOT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SHOW AS WE MARCH THROUGH THIS STUFF, WE'RE GETTING THIS STUFF DONE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE THE ISSUE OF THE THE LONG RANGE ROAD PLAN, YOU KNOW, HERE IT IS, THE END OF JULY,
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I STILL DON'T SEE A PUBLISHED ROAD PLAN OR EVEN ONE PRESENTED TO CIP TO SAY, HERE IT IS.YOU ALL DECIDE WHAT WHAT GOES ON IT.
THAT WAS A WHOLE PART OF THAT TWO DAY SESSION WAS HOW DO WE MAKE THAT WORK? BECAUSE WE WANT THAT CIP ADVISORY BOARD TO BE GIVING A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT PROJECTS IN WHAT ORDER COMPREHENSIVELY BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT.
AND TONIGHT, YOU JUST HEARD US TALKING ABOUT, GEE, IF, IF WE TRULY ARE COMMITTED TO POSSIBLY $200,000 ON, ON THE SWIMMING POOL AT MITCH PARK, WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? DOES IT COME FROM THE PARK BUDGET? DOES IT COME FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET? DOES IT COME FROM CIP DOLLARS? WE'VE GOTTA MAKE DECISIONS.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A, A COMPREHENSIVE LIST FROM CIP OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO BE DOING, HOW DO WE DECIDE WHAT WE DO? I THINK, I THINK TOO, THERE'S, WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WHAT YOU GUYS DID FOR A LIVING.
ALL I GOTTA SAY IS BLESS YOUR HEARTS
UH, BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING MONTHLY.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED OUT, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE CALENDAR YEAR, STRATEGIC PLANS THAT WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE NUMBERS AND FILL INS ALREADY, PROBABLY, BUT THERE ALSO HAS TO BE A POSITION, AND I'M NOT SAYING MONTHLY FOR SURE, BUT IT, WHETHER THAT'S SEMI-ANNUALLY OR WHATEVER YOU LOOK AT AND YOU SAY, OKAY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PIVOT POINT.
WE'RE WAY OFF, OR, OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE, THESE ARE MEANT, MEANT TO BE, MEANT TO LIVE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO MEANT TO BREATHE.
AND THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, AND IF SOMETHING'S WAY OFF, GOTTA THEN LOOK AT IT AND FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND HOW TO, HOW TO REACH THAT CHALLENGE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE SO BURDENSOME THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WEEKLY, IT'S MONTHLY, BUT FOR SURE QUARTERLY MEASURES START TO START TO MAKE SOME DIFFERENCE IN THESE KIND OF THINGS AND THEN HAVE A, HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
NOT, NOT IN, NOT IN WHAT THE GOAL NECESSARILY OR THE PLAN IS, BUT HOW TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE, I MEAN, WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE.
UM, SO I MEAN, I THINK THE STRUGGLE FOR ME, IT'S BEEN NINE MONTHS SINCE WE DEVELOPED THESE GOALS AND SOME OF 'EM WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT AT ALL.
AND SO I DON'T, LIKE, I DON'T, THERE'S LIKE 30 THINGS IN HERE.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO, IN MY ONE HOUR WITH AJ EVERY TWO WEEKS OR, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TALK EXCEPT FOR UP HERE AS A GROUP, THERE'S NO TIME TO TOUCH BASE OR FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE THINGS ARE GOING.
AND THEN NINE MONTHS HAD PASSED AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED AND I DIDN'T LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE THIS IS NOT HOW WE MANAGE THINGS, I GUESS WHAT I'M USED TO.
SO WE NEED SOME OTHER WAY TO JUST YEAH.
STATUS HIM OR SOMETHING TO WHERE IT'S NOT ALMOST AUGUST HERE AND THINGS HAVEN'T MOVED AND WE'RE LIKE JUST NOW SEEING IT.
COUNCILMAN, WE HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION, UM, OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT, UH, IN A SIMILAR VEIN ABOUT BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF UTILIZING SOME OF OUR ADVISORY BOARDS IN A DIFFERENT WAY MM-HMM
AND INVOLVING, UM, SOME OF THOSE BOARD OR COMMISSION, UH, UH, CHAIRPERSONS MM-HMM
UH, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S HARD TO BE SUCCINCT WHEN TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT, UM, I, WE WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE AS A COUNCIL, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HEARD, YOU, YOU'VE BEEN ENGAGED, YOU'VE BEEN HEARD, AND YOU'RE MEANINGFULLY IMPACTING THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY.
YOU'RE NOT JUST AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER UP HERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY COUPLE WEEKS.
AND I THINK FROM EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THE, THE WAY THAT HAPPENS IS YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON WHETHER IT'S STRATEGIC GOALS OR, OR, UH, PRIORITY OBJECTIVES, WHATEVER SOMEBODY WANTS TO CALL IT.
SO WE WANT TO HELP YOU, UH, GET THERE.
AND, AND I, I, I JUST THINK AS I'M LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE, THE FIVE OF YOU AS WELL, THAT THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOME TIME MAYBE PLURAL, DEVOTED TO JUST THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE KINDS OF UPDATES I THINK YOU WANT AND THE KIND OF OF WAYS THAT
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YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO, AS I SAY, MEANINGFULLY IMPACT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY.UM, YEAH, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO DEVOTE SOME TIME TO IT, I THINK.
WELL, AND I'M NOT SURE IT NEEDS TO BE MEETING TIME.
I'M TALKING A LOT HERE, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M USED TO IS LIKE YOU ESTABLISH THE GOALS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THOSE TURN INTO GOALS PER, YOU KNOW, THAT FLOW DOWN TO DEPARTMENTS, DEPARTMENTS WOULD REPORT STATUS ON THOSE LIKE MONTHLY TO YOU AND THEN LIKE MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY YOU WOULD FEED THOSE TO US.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE BACKGROUND COULD BE ENOUGH, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST TOUGH TO LIKE SET GOALS IN NOVEMBER AND THEN REALLY NOT SEE ANYTHING UNTIL ALMOST AUGUST.
AND THEN A LOT OF 'EM ARE LIKE A BIT OF DISSATISFYING STATUS.
SO I THINK IF WE, IF WE HAVE A SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD WHERE THERE'S JUST SOME LEVEL OF PLAN LAID OUT AND SOME LEVEL OF PROGRESS TO THE PLAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING TO SEE.
AND IT AGAIN, DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE, IN THE MEETING.
IT COULD BE BEHIND THE SCENES IN A REPORT LIKE THIS OR ON WEBSITE OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TOUCHPOINT.
WE'RE NOT MANAGING 'EM, RIGHT? YOU GUYS ARE MANAGING 'EM.
BUT IF THEY'RE JUST SITTING AND NOTHING'S HAPPENING, I KIND OF WANNA KNOW IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT DONE THIS YEAR, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL COMING AT THIS FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PUBLIC AND KIND OF WHAT WE THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
I DO HAVE THOUGHTS ON MOVING FORWARD, BUT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ME ADD? DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? OH YEAH.
UM, SO WE, I JUST LOOKED UP MY CALENDAR.
SO WE DID THE STRATEGIC PLANNING ON DECEMBER 3RD OF LAST YEAR.
I GUESS IT WAS THE SECOND AND THIRD AND YOU WERE BRAND NEW.
UM, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE OF BEING A CITY MANAGER THAN ANY OF US DO.
AND SO I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO THIS YEAR.
UM, I MEAN THE, THIS IS YOUR STAFF.
WE ARE THE COUNCIL, SO YOU KNOW MORE HOW THEY WORK THAN WE DO.
SO I WOULD LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK.
MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT A FACILITATOR, SOME PROCESSES YOU'VE DONE, UM, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS MAKING SENSE TO YOUR STAFF.
UM, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OUR ROLE TO GET DOWN IN WHAT STAFF'S DOING AND ASK A BUNCH, YOU KNOW, BUT OUR STAFF IS AMAZING AND THEY, I THINK THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT, SHOULD WE COME TO THEM.
BUT I JUST, I WANNA, I THINK I SAID THIS AT THE END OF THAT, THE TWO DAY SESSION, IT'S LIKE IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO STAFF OR IF IF THEY'RE HAVING, IT'S GOTTA MAKE SENSE TO STAFF, IT'S GOTTA MAKE SENSE TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
SO, UM, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO HEAR IS THAT I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND UM, YEAH, THERE'S, CITIES MOVE SLOW I THINK.
UM, SURE WE WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS DONE.
YOU ALL KNOW I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE.
I, I, I, I WANNA SEE IT UPDATE UPDATED, I WANNA SEE A PLAN.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I JUST FELT THE NEED TO TELL STAFF THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
WE, I CERTAINLY SEE OUR PROGRESS AND UM, SO IF WE WANNA DISCUSS THIS AND ADD THOSE KPIS THAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED THROUGH A SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP OR ADD IT TO AN AGENDA, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF STRATEGIC PLANNING, UM, BECAUSE THIS ORGANIZATION LAST BEYOND CITY COUNCIL TERMS, UM, WHATEVER ASPIRATIONS SOME OF US MIGHT HAVE THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IT'S A CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE COLLABORATIVE BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK AT SOME POINT TOO.
I TOLD AJ THIS WEEKEND, LIKE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME DOING THIS.
A LOT OF US, YOU TWO HAVE DONE IT MORE THAN US.
BUT UM, THAT WAS OUR FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH IT AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANTED AND WE'RE ALL COMING AT THIS FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES OF WHAT WE DO MAYBE DAY TO DAY OR HOW WE, HOW WE DIGEST DATA.
AND I'M OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS ON THAT.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THE GOOD THINGS 'CAUSE I'M, I'M KIND OF BEING NEGATIVE, BIG ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SO FAR THAT I NOTED JUST A MINUTE AGO.
THE RATE STUDY FOR WATER, UDC PROGRESS, THE FOUNDATION OF EXCELLENCE STUFF, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF IN THAT SECTION.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ORGANIZATION, THE FINANCIAL DILIGENCE AND BUDGETING.
WE'RE MOVING MOUNTAINS ON THAT EVERY MONTH IT FEELS LIKE.
UM, TOURISM STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING BACK THERE IN THE CORNER.
SO THOSE WERE JUST SOME THAT I NOTED.
THERE'S A LOT THAT HAS HAPPENED THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR AND
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I DON'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER THAT SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH 'EM ONE BY ONE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 'EM.BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
GOOD WORK EVERYBODY ON THIS MOVING FORWARD.
AND, AND YOU SUGGESTED THE SAME.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE HAVE MISHMASHED A LITTLE BIT STRATEGIC THINGS WITH GOALS.
SO I THINK THERE'S SOME, PROBABLY SOME SEPARATION WE COULD DO THERE TO MAKE THE NEAR TERM GOALS A LITTLE MORE CLEARER THAN MAYBE SOME OVERARCHING AND HAVING SOME INDEPENDENT MAYBE HELP WITH THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.
ONE THING THAT I NOTED LAST YEAR WAS, AND THIS IS A GENERAL SOAPBOX FOR ME, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS YOU MENTIONED AND THE COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS HAS, HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR ME BECAUSE WHEN I WAS RUNNING A BOARD AND COMMISSION, I FELT LIKE I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A CONNECTION TO THE COUNCIL.
AND SO I WAS ON THIS ADVISORY BOARD THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ADVISING THE COUNCIL AND I NEVER TALKED TO COUNCIL
AND SO LIKE THAT STUFF SORT OF FILTERED THROUGH STAFF BACK TO COUNCIL THROUGH BUDGETS OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A CONNECTIVITY THERE.
AND MAYBE SOME OF 'EM DO, LIKE THE ONES WE SERVE ON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR THOSE 'CAUSE WE SERVE ON THEM.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO IF WE HAVE TIME, JUST AN IDEA FOR THIS NEXT YEAR'S PLANNING SESSION IS HAVE THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIKE THE POLICE, UH, I THINK IT WAS COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD OR PARKS, GAVE US A THING BEFORE WE WENT INTO THAT, A SHEET THAT SAID HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PRIORITIES FOR NEXT YEAR.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD, RIGHT? LIKE THEY SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK YOU OUGHT TO PRIORITIZE.
AND THAT, THAT WAS A GOOD WAY FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE TO US THE PRIORITIES OF THAT BOARD, OF THE CITIZENS THAT SERVE ON THAT BOARD.
SO I THINK IT'D BE COOL TO HAVE THOSE BOARD CHAIRS COME IN AND BRIEF US FOR A FEW MINUTES ON THOSE, WHAT THEY RECOMMEND OR WHAT THEY SEE OR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER.
UM, MAYBE IT'S WRITTEN DOWN, MAYBE IT'S IN PERSON, BUT JUST TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY WITH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I THINK WOULD BE POSITIVE.
LIKE WE DID WITH STAFF, RIGHT? THEY ALL GOT UP AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK WE WANT TO DO OR WHAT, WHAT WE THINK WE OUGHT TO FOCUS ON AND WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD, A GOOD CONNECTION TO HAVE WITH OUR BOARD AND COMMISSIONS TOO.
AND THEN WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT DATES.
'CAUSE LAST YEAR WE KIND OF STUMBLED INTO THE DATES, NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT TRY TO GET THOSE ON THE CALENDAR BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT SOON.
OTHER COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? MR. MOORE, YOU'VE BEEN AWFUL QUIET OVER HERE.
BEEN LISTEN, I THINK THAT'S A A A LOT, A LOT TO CHEW ON.
DID YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS YOU SAID YOU HAD MENTIONED? OKAY, WE GOOD? OKAY.
UM, ALS ALSO ROLLED INTO THIS.
I I DO WANNA MENTION, UM, WE, WE ARE GOING TO START DOING THE ANNUAL, 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE ANNUAL NOW, COMMUNITY SURVEY.
UM, SOME OF THAT WE, I VISITED WITH AJ ABOUT TIMING IS A, IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE I THINK IDEALLY YOU ALL WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION PROBABLY BEFORE YOU MEET, UM, TO DO THAT.
THE TIMING OF OF WHAT IT TAKES FOR THEM TO PROCESS THAT AND GET BACK TO US IS GONNA BE A CHALLENGE TO HAVE THAT TO YOU THIS YEAR.
IF YOU MEET IN NOVEMBER FOR INSTANCE.
SO JUST WANT TO KIND OF PAINT THAT PICTURE APPROPRIATELY.
UM, IT TAKES THEM ROUGHLY TWO TO THREE MONTHS TO GIVE US THE, THE FINAL DATA BACK.
SO IE WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE SURVEY YESTERDAY TO DO THAT.
WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE, UM, THE, THE GETTING THE PLATFORM READY TO GO.
I THINK, I THINK THEY SET NOT YESTERDAY, AUGUST 1ST.
WE WOULD HAVE TO BEGIN THE, THE CONCERN IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT AND HELP TO GET DATA BACK FOR IN DECEMBER.
SO TRADITIONALLY IT'S BEEN, YES, TRADITIONALLY IT'S BEEN IN NOVEMBER WHEN, WHEN THE COUNCIL WAS MET.
THEY'VE BEEN TAKE THEM, THEY CAN'T EXPEDITE THAT.
WHAT THEY SAID IS THE LATEST WOULD BE WE COULD START WOULD BE AUGUST 1ST.
WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR A FEW WEEKS AND THEN THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY DO ON THE BACKEND.
THAT'S THE, THOSE, THOSE DATA COMPANIES.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S ALSO THE BENCHMARKING.
THEY'LL DO CORRECT FOR US AGAINST COMPARABLE CITIES.
THAT'S WHAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
I MEAN THE DATA TABULATION ITSELF ISN'T THAT TIME CONSUMING.
SO I JUST DID WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THAT AND GET IT LAUNCHED.
DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE THE DATA BACK IN TIME FOR WHEN YOU ALL SIT DOWN TO DO THAT.
BUT MOVING FORWARD WE WILL PLAN TO DO SO FOR SURE.
I THINK WE SHOULD PUSH BACK ON THAT
SO MAYBE THAT LEADS TO A QUESTION, WHEN DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN? MEANING, AND, AND I SAY DO THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO THIS IS, IS, IS IT A DAY OR TWO AGAIN TOGETHER SIMILAR FORMAT STYLE AS AS LAST YEAR?
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IS IT A DAY UPDATE? I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING AND WHEN DO YOU WANT DO IT? 'CAUSE THAT MIGHT INFORM, UH, I MEAN WE WILL PUSH ON THE, UH, ON ZEN CITY TO GET US RESULTS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.BUT IF YOU GIVE US A TARGET, WE'LL JUST TELL 'EM WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BY THIS DATE.
THINK A MORE TROPICAL LOCATION WOULD BE DESIRABLE, I THINK.
UH, I ALWAYS SAW IT AS LIKE WE, BEFORE WE START THE BUDGETING PROCESS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIORITIES ARE ALIGNED, WHICH WE USUALLY START IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
SO THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT, I AGREE WITH THAT AND I THINK EVERYBODY SAYS THAT, BUT SO MUCH OF OUR BUDGET, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE POLICE, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FIRE, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE CERTAIN SERVICES.
IT'S THE CAPITAL PIECE WHERE, AND THE CAPITAL PIECES WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE MAYBE THE MOST DISCRETION AND YOU HAVE THE GREATEST ABILITY TO BE IMPACTFUL, UH, AND, AND, AND SPENDING DECISIONS.
SO I I STILL THINK IT'S OKAY TO EVEN BE A LITTLE BIT INTO, WE COULD BE DONE WITH THE GENERAL FUND IN THEORY AND GET UM, UH, UH, SURVEY RESULTS BACK AND STILL GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITIES TO MEANINGFULLY IMPACT, UH, THE CAPITAL SIDE AND YOUR EXPERIENCE AS MAGGIE ASKED, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN DONE? HOW DOES IT ALIGN? IS IT THE BUDGET YEAR, THE FISCAL YEAR, SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN BUDGET YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR, SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN? I I THINK IF I PICK OUT THE, THE, THE APPROACH THAT I THOUGHT WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL, IT WAS A SLIGHTLY LONGER TERM HORIZON.
IT WAS, UM, MAJOR OBJECTIVES THAT WERE THREE TO FIVE YEARS IN, IN THOUGHT AND IN PROCESS OR MAYBE GOALS, I'M SORRY.
AND THEN, AND, AND THEN OBJECTIVES THAT WERE MUCH SHORTER TERM THAT VARIED GENERALLY BETWEEN LIKE A ONE AND TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME, BUT IT BEGAN WITH A MUCH, UH, BROADER TIME HORIZON.
WHAT TIME OF YEAR RELATIVE TO THE OH, FISCAL YEAR IN THE BUDGET.
WOULD THAT NORMALLY HAPPEN EACH YEAR WHEN WE WOULD REVIEW IT PRIOR TO, UH, BUDGET ADOPTION? PRIOR TO BUDGET REVIEW AND ADOPTION.
AM I ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
SO THE, FOR US THAT WOULD BE FIRST QUARTER, NOBODY.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
I THINK DECEMBER, YEAH, LAST YEAR WE DID DECEMBER.
DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER FAILS SOON.
I MEAN,
UM, BUT WHATEVER WE DO, I THINK WHEN WE CAN'T START OVER, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TWO DAYS.
I THINK WE CAN COVER IT IN A DAY.
UM, AND LIKE, I WON'T REPEAT WHAT I SAID BEFORE, BUT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT FACILITATOR, UM, OR JUST ABOUT PROCESS, IT'S YOUR STAFF.
SO I ACTUALLY DO THINK A FACILITATOR IS A GOOD IDEA.
UM, FOR THIS REASON, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PRESSURE OF RUNNING THE MEETING.
YOU JUST PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S TRAINED TO ASK PROBING AND THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS AND THEN TRY AND BUILD CONSENSUS THAT WAY THERE'S NO PRESSURE ON YOU TO RUN A MEETING, RUN AN AGENDA, YOU JUST REACT TO THE FACILITATOR.
I MEAN, I YOU, YOU DON'T WANNA BE A FACILITATOR AND BE PART OF THE MEETING.
DON'T, WHAT'D YOU SAY? YOU NEVER REALLY HAVE SOMEBODY PART OF THE MEETING AS A FACILITATOR, SOMEBODY PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETING.
SORRY, I JUST COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
NO, I, I MEAN I THINK THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS IF YOU DO EXPAND IT SO THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A, A THREE YEAR, A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND THEN WITHIN IT YOU HAVE THE SHORT AND THE MIDTERM BASICALLY OBJECTIVES.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR OBJECTIVES WITHIN IT, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD ASSUME YOU DO IN YOUR ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S WHAT I DO WITH MOST THAT I WORK WITH WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT IT.
YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST START THERE BECAUSE IF YOU START THERE, IF WE HAD DONE THAT LAST YEAR, WE HAVE FIVE YEAR GOALS AND NOTHING WOULD'VE GOTTEN DONE.
SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT NEXT STEP.
UM, I THINK AJ CAN GUIDE US WITH BEST PRACTICE OF WHAT HE'S SEEN AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOO DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND A FACILITATOR THERE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE OUT THERE
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WHO CAN HANDLE THAT FOR US.SO, AND THEN IF WE TALK ABOUT MAYBE EVEN SHIFTING THAT WHOLE THING INTO Q1, WE SHOULD HAVE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEYS BACK, HAVE SOME GOOD ANALYSIS, BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME THINGS.
AND I THINK THAT ALSO MAKES IT EASIER AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW DO YOU DRIVE METRICS DOWN.
IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO DO THAT BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THE LONG TERM.
HOW DO YOU MEASURE THE LONG TERM WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE SHORT TERM THINGS? SO I I I THINK IT'S A GOOD NEXT STEP.
SO MAYBE I'LL JUST, JUST TO BRING IT TO A CLOSE.
I WOULD, I WOULD WOULD WORK SOME STAFF.
WE WILL GIVE YOU MAYBE LIKE A PROPOSED SCHEDULE, KIND OF AN OUTLINE OF A SCHEDULE, SOME NEXT STEPS, HAVE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK, AND MM-HMM
[12. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]
THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.ANYBODY LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING THIS EVENING? OH, I WANNA SAY SOME THINGS.
WE HAVE A LOT, WE HAVE A LOT TO CELEBRATE.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE OKLAHOMA COACHES ASSOCIATION, UM, IS HO THEY'RE HERE HOSTING, UM, ALLSTATE GAMES ALL ACROSS THE CITY.
MY FAMILY WAS AT THE VOLLEYBALL GAME EARLIER, UM, AND SENT ME SOME PICTURES.
UH, BUT I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT WHAT A GREAT, WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IS FOR EDMOND TO HOST THAT.
IT DRAWS 450 ATHLETES AND 4,000 COACHES FROM ACROSS ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE VISIT EDMOND FOR THEIR WORK ON THAT.
AND THAT'S A BIG PARTNERSHIP WITH U-C-O-Y-M-C-A.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE THAT ALSO.
UM, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE PELICAN BAY OPEN.
I'VE DRIVEN BY IT IS, IT'S VERY, IT'S BEING VERY ENJOYED.
UM, I APPRECIATE STAFF FOR GETTING THAT DONE, HAVING SOME FUN PR THAT MADE A BIG SPLASH.
UM, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD TIME TO CELEBRATE.
UM, ON A MORE, UM, SOMBER NOTE, I DID JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE JOY OF WATER, BUT ALSO, UM, THE DANGER IT COMPO, IT COMPOSED TO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE, THE DROWNING THAT OCCURRED AT ARCADIA LAKE AND I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, UM, OFFICER HUNTER ANTHONY AND HIS, HIS LIFESAVING EFFORTS.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING.
MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH THE FAMILY AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE OUR POLICE AND FIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BEING READY TO RESPOND AND JUST WANNA BRING ATTENTION TO, UM, TO WATER SAFETY.
AND, UM, REALLY SAD THAT THAT HAPPENED.
I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE AND FIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARE WATCHING THE TEMPERATURES, MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE.
I THINK IT'S ALSO A COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY THAT IF YOU SEE SOMEONE IN DISTRESS, UM, TO HELP THEM TO OFFER THEM WATER, OFFER THEM A RIDE, UH, THESE TEMPERATURES ARE VERY DANGEROUS.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT, BUT I APPRECIATE STAFF FOR BEING HERE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR BEING HERE.
AND, UM, WE ALWAYS ENJOY HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.
I JUST HAVE, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.
I, UH, THERE WAS A LADY CALL ME AND THIS IS A QUOTE, SHE SAID, I'M HOPPING MAD BECAUSE AN ITEM SHE WAS INTERESTED IN HADN'T BEEN DEALT WITH.
KEITH STEWART, I GOT AHOLD OF HIM, HE GOT IT GOING WITHIN ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT HOURS.
MR. STEWART, IF YOU'RE STILL HERE, THANK YOU.
UH, THE FELLAS FROM THE YMCA OUT THERE.
UH, FRANK, FRANK HALE, YOU AND LEANNA.
THAT WAS A COOL DEAL AT THE SWIMMING POOL AND UH, THANK YOU.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN UP HERE SINCE LIBERTY FEST, HAVE WE? IT WAS JUST FANTASTIC.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE INVOLVED.
I WENT TO MORE EVENTS THAN I'VE EVER BEEN TO HEALTH OBLIGATED, SITTING UP HERE AND JUST LOVED THEM ALL AND IT WAS SO SPECIAL.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT IT WAS FANTASTIC.
MR. FRAME, ANYTHING TONIGHT? I'M GOOD.
WELL, I APPRECIATE WHAT WAS SAID FROM THIS SIDE OF THE DAY TONIGHT.
I SUPPORT EACH AND EVERY COMMENT THAT BOTH OF YOU MADE.
UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING THAT I
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THINK IS EXCITING IS VIBE CORPORATION IS OPENING THEIR 10TH WHATABURGER IN OKLAHOMA TOMORROW AT COVEL AND SOONER THAT'S BRINGING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 90 AND A HUNDRED JOBS TO EDMOND.UM, I GOT TO MEET WITH THEIR ENTIRE CREW ON SATURDAY AND IT IS A PRETTY ENERGETIC BUNCH.
UM, HAVING A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY TOMORROW AT 10 IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.
AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY ANYTIME WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A NEW RESTAURATEUR OR A RETAIL OPERATION TO THE CITY, WE SHOULD AND LET'S GO OUT AND ENJOY IT.
AND I GUESS WITH THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM 13.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.