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[2. Presentations:]
GONNA START OUT THIS EVENING WITH ITEM TWO A, A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, AS NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.WHEREAS EDMOND'S COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD IS ENCOURAGING THE RESIDENTS OF EDMOND TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATEWIDE CRIME, DRUG AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAM ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, ENTITLED NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT.
AND WHEREAS NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IS AN ANNUAL EVENT IN EDMOND.
THE EVENT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND DEPARTMENT WITH LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN PROMOTING COOPERATIVE COMMUNITY CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY SAFETY.
AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT ALL RESIDENTS AT THE CITY OF EDMOND ARE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT THAT THEIR PARTICIPATION CAN HAVE HAVE ON REDUCING CRIME, DRUGS AND VIOLENCE IN EDMOND.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF EDMOND, EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT, EDMUND FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND EDMOND'S COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD ARE COMMITTED TO ENHANCING PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE RESIDENTS THEY SERVE THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT.
AND WHEREAS POLICE, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY, AWARENESS AND COOPERATION ARE IMPORTANT THEMES OF THE NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT PROGRAM THERE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026 AS NEIGHBORS NIGHT OUT IN THE CITY OF EDMOND CHIEF.
UH, SO I HAVE WITH ME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD, UH, WITH CHAIR LATRICIA FERGUSON.
UH, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THE CITY OF EDMOND FOR OVER 25 YEARS HAS HAD A COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD CURRENTLY MADE UP OF NINE CITIZENS SELECTED BY YOUR COUNCIL OF MAYOR, UH, THAT MEET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MONTHLY TO HELP DETERMINE WHAT STRATEGIC PLANS ARE GONNA BE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT POLICING PRIORITIES ARE GONNA BE, AND JUST GO OVER THE TOPICS OF THE DAY.
SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP.
UH, WE LOVE THAT, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON THIS.
UH, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
THAT HAPPENS THAT TYPICALLY THE FIRST TUESDAY IN AUGUST, UH, WHERE IT'S REALLY HOT, UH, IN EDMOND AND THEN PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION TYPICALLY.
SO WE'VE MOVED IT TO THE SECOND TUESDAY IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, THE BOARD IS, IS REALLY ENCOURAGING FOR CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO, TO PLAN EVENTS.
EVEN IF YOU DON'T MEET WITH US TO MEET WITH EACH OTHER.
UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A GREAT CITY, UH, A GREAT COMMUNITY.
SO WE JUST WANNA SHOW GRATITUDE FOR THOSE THAT ARE SERVING THIS WAY AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH YOU.
UH, ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT IF, IF THE, IF HAVING THE POLICE COME TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOESN'T SOUND TOO COOL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMES AS WELL AND THEY BRING THAT BIG TRUCK AND SO EVERYBODY LOADS THE FIREFIGHTERS.
SO, UH, MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT AND PARTICIPATE ON SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH.
[3. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the City Hall lobby. Please note that members of the City Council cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]
ALL RIGHT, ITEM THREE CITIZEN COMMENTS.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON CITY RELATED MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA OR SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO PARTICIPATE.
CITIZENS MUST SIGN UP TO SPEAK ONLINE BY THREE O'CLOCK THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR IN PERSON BEFORE THE START OF THE MEETING.
WE'VE GOT ONE PERSON SPEAKING THIS EVENING, SO I WILL JUST LOOK AT ROBERT CARRUM BEFORE YOU COME FORWARD AND I'LL SAY, WHEN YOU COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
KEEP YOUR COMMENTS FOCUSED ON ME, THE MAYOR, NOT THE WHOLE COUNCIL.
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SO MR. CARAM, COME ON UP.
AM I CLOSE ENOUGH? I GUESS SO.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC TO US.
ALL THAT TOPIC IS OUR FRESH WATER SUPPLY.
WE ALL NEED IT AND WE WISH WE HAD SOME MORE OF IT ABOUT NOW.
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EDMOND SEEKING AN EXCEPTION TO A LONGSTANDING OKLAHOMA WATER RESOURCE BOARD REGULATORY STANDARD STATING THAT NO NEW WATER WELLS BE DRILLED CLOSER THAN ONE QUARTER MILE RADIUS FROM EXISTING WATER WELLS.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS STANDARD IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT UNDERGROUND RESOURCE DEPLETION, ENSURE FAIR EXTRACTION RIGHTS, AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRITY OF OUR WATER AND ENERGY RESOURCES.
IF THIS EXCEPTION APPLICATION NUMBER 2 0 2 5 6 16 TO DRILL FOUR NEW WATER WELLS, THREE OF WHICH ARE VERY CLOSE, AND IN SOME CASES
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LESS THAN ONE QUARTER MILE RADIUS STANDARD TO OVER 50 EDMOND NORTH ESTATES HOMES IS GRANTED, WE FEEL OUR SHALLOW WELLS WILL RUN DRY.THIS WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO OUR RESIDENTS.
I PROPOSE THAT THESE NEW WELLS NOT BE DRILLED, BUT A SAFER ALTERNATIVE BE CONSIDERED.
A FEW YEARS BACK, EDMUND NEEDED TO DRILL SOME NEW WELLS IN OUR VICINITY.
WE WERE REASSURED THAT THESE NEW WELLS WOULD NOT HINDER OUR WELLS FROM DELIVERING WATER WHEN WE NEED IT.
WELL, THINGS DID NOT GO AS PLANNED.
WE HAD MANY WELLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GO DRY AND DEEPER.
WELLS HAD TO BE DRILLED AT OUR OWN EXPENSE SO WE COULD HAVE WATER AGAIN.
PLEASE CONSIDER EDMOND NORTH ESTATES NEED FOR WATER.
WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE PLANNING, UM, AND THE NEED OF EDMOND HAS FOR WATER IN THE OVERALL PLAN TO SUPPLY THIS PRECIOUS RESOURCE, WE ASKED FOR MORE TIME TO RESEARCH.
THIS ONE MONTH TIME ALLOTMENT HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH TO PROPERLY CONSIDER OPTIONS TO EDMOND'S GROWING NEED FOR WATER IN AUGUST 31ST, OR EXCUSE ME, ON AUGUST 31ST, 2026 IS THE DATE SET FORTH BY THE APPLICANT TO GRANT THIS EXCEPTION.
UNLESS PROTESTED, WE ARE PUBLICLY PROTESTING THIS EXCEPTION ON THIS DATE.
PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS APPLICATION, 2 0 2 5 DASH 616 EXCEPTION TO THE ONE QUARTER MILE STANDARD RADIUS TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU MUCH AND GOD BLESS YOU.
[4. Appointments and Reappointments:]
AND REAPPOINTMENTS.I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THIS EVENING, SO I WILL HAVE TO ANNOUNCE VOTE TOTALS.
THAT DID, UH, PASS FIVE TO ZERO.
[A. Case No. PR26-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Preliminary Plat for Black Oaks II at Iron Horse Ranch, Located Southeast of Sorghum Mill Road and Coltrane Road. (Staab Holdings LLC; Ward 2)]
CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS FIVE A IS CASE NUMBER PR TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 1 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR BLACK OAKS TWO AT IRON HORSE RANCH LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF SORGHUM MILL ROAD IN COLTRANE ROAD.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT SIR? MR. BRIGHT? THANK YOU SIR.
THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT REQUIRES ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT INCLUDES PRIVATE STREETS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 63 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SORGHUM MILL, EAST OF COLTRANE.
THE CASE DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL BE PLATTED INTO 74 LOTS.
MOST OF THE LOTS ARE APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF ACRE ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY GATED PRIVATE STREET CONNECTING TO SORGHUM MILL AND WILL INCLUDE CONNECTIONS TO THE PRIVATE STREET SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON AUGUST 4TH, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? DO WE HAVE ANYONE THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS BEFORE WE START ASKING QUESTIONS? ANYONE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? TAYLOR WILSON.
UM, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THROUGH ON THIS ONE.
SO, UM, IN THE MEMO TO THE COUNCIL, IT OUTLINES IT'S NOT HOOKED UP TO SEWER.
SO THERE'S 74 LOTS, 20 OF THEM ARE HOOKED UP THE SEWER TWO THIRDS OR 54 OF THEM ARE NOT HOOKED UP IN LOTS THAT ARE 21,000.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF A PER THE CODE IT IS SHOULD BE HOOKED UP TO SEWER UNLESS THE RESIDENTIAL ACREAGE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPER IS NOT REQUIRED TO IF IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PRT.
SO THE PRT FORMALLY RECOMMENDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, ABOVE WHAT THE CODE SAYS 'CAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
THAT CODE GROUP IS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, ELECTRIC DEPARTMENT, BUT NOT THE WATER DEPARTMENT, WHICH I THINK IS A LITTLE ODD, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THE RULE READS.
SO I GUESS THAT QUESTION IS, IS WHAT'S THE STRATEGY TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN THESE AREAS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE CODE SAYS? SO THE PLANNING REVIEW DIDN'T HEAR IT AT PLANNING THE STRATEGY OF WHY THEY RECOMMENDED, WHY THEY DID ALL THESE THINGS.
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SO I, TO ME, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN LOGAN COUNTY.IF THAT'S WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE GONNA BE, THEN WE SHOULD CHANGE IT FOR EVERYBODY AND MOVE IT TO BE LOGAN COUNTY STANDARDS IN NORTHERN EDMOND.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE WHY ACTIVELY PURSUING DOING THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA OVER AND ABOVE THE CODE.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO ADDRESS IT?
AND I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THIS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO AFFECT MY BACKYARD AND HOW MANY TREES AND HOW CLOSE, UH, PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE TO MY PROPERTY LINE.
WELL, WE'LL GET THE DEVELOPER UP HERE IN A MOMENT OKAY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADDRESS EITHER ONE OF THESE ISSUES? GOOD EVENING, MARK GRUBBS, 1800 SOUTH SARAH ROAD ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICATION.
SO WE ARE SERVING, UH, AS MANY LOTS AS WE CAN PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO SERVE WITH THE SEWER THAT WILL GRAVITY SEWER INTO THAT THE REST OF THEM, UH, MEET THE SIZE AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEQ.
WE'RE EXTENDING WATER TO EACH AND EVERY LOT, SO WE ARE EXTENDING WATER AND SEWER TO EACH AND EVERY LOT THAT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO BE SE UH, SERVED BY GRAVITY SEWER.
IF THERE WAS A WAY TO GRAVITY SEWER THE REMAINING LOTS, WE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE THE DESIRE OF THE DEVELOPER TO DO SO.
AS FAR AS HOW CLOSE, UH, IT IS TO, UM, THE LADY'S, UH, YARD, I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE'S LOCATED.
SO THE BACK, THE BACKS OF THE THE YARDS TO THE WEST WILL BE ABUTTING THE, UM, PROPERTY LINE TO THE WEST.
UH, WE ARE MEETING THE TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY OF EDMOND AND IT'S NOT THE DESIRE TO REMOVE ANY MORE TREES THAN NECESSARY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO, SO ARE THESE AEROBIC SYSTEMS YOU'RE ANTICIPATING OR TRADITIONAL? YEAH, THEY WOULD BE AEROBIC ON, ON THE HALF ACRE, LOTS WITH WATER.
WELL THEN I'M GOING TO CHIME IN MY CONCERNS FOR, UM, THE LADY WHO CAME FORWARD AND ASKED ABOUT HOW IT'D IMPACT HER LOT IF SHE BACKS UP TO ANY ONE OF THESE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN AEROBIC SYSTEMS DECIDE TO TURN OVER, IT SMELLS LIKE A SEWER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO THAT, SO ALL THIS STUFF, TO ME THAT IS A CONCERN WHEN WE'RE GOING WITH THE NEW DEQ STANDARD OF A HALF ACRE.
UM, IT USED TO BE THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO A HALF ACRE AND THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF AEROBIC SYSTEMS ALONG THERE.
THAT'S TO ME, I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT EVERYTHING ON THE WEST, UH, SERVES WITH, UH, GRAVITY SEWER.
SO NONE OF THOSE WILL HAVE THE AEROBIC GETS EVERYTHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
OKAY, SO IS THE WIND ONLY ALWAYS GONNA BLOW FROM THE WEST SO IT DOESN'T GO INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? UM, I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
SO SHE WON'T HAVE AEROBIC SYSTEMS NEXT TO HER HOUSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. MOORE? I DO, UH, THIS IS A LOT AND UH, THAT'S WHAT IS THAT 50 SOME ODD THAT THE NUMBER WE'RE AT? MM-HMM
TALK US THROUGH THAT PROCESS YOU WENT THROUGH TO, THROUGH, UH, WHAT PROCESS, SIR, FOR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEMS? IS THAT, SO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IS IN BLACK, UH, BLACK OAK ONE.
AND, UM, WE ARE EXTENDING IT UP TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE THAT IT WON'T BE OUT OF THE GROUND AND WE CAN SERVE EACH LOT THAT IT CAN PHYSICALLY BE SERVED BY GRAVITY THERE.
AND THEN THE REMAINING LOTS ARE NOT, IT'S NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO EXTEND THE SEWER TO THOSE, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT AND WHY NOT PROPOSED? BECAUSE IT WOULD COME OUT OF THE GROUND.
IT FALLS OFF AWAY FROM THE SEWER SO IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE PHYSICALLY SERVED.
AND YOU THINK THIS IS A SATISFACTORY APPROACH? UH, I THINK IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF
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THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.WHO'S THE WELL, DON'T, DON'T RECITE THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS A PROPER WAY TO SERVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? I I, YEAH.
I DON'T, I HAVE AN AEROBIC SYSTEM TOO.
I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAINTAINED, I THEY DO HAVE ISSUES.
THEY'RE MECHANICAL, BUT IF THEY'RE MAINTAINED WELL AND YOU KEEP YOUR, UH, CHEMICALS IN THERE, THEN SO WHAT GUARANTEE DO WE HAVE THAT THAT'LL OCCUR? I'M SORRY, WHAT GUARANTEE DO WE HAVE THAT THAT WILL OCCUR? IT CAN BE PUT IN THE CCRS, BUT THAT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN REGULATE THOSE.
SO, SO ESSENTIALLY NOTHING WELL, YOU CAN TRY.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT IN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CCR, BUT WE CAN'T, THE DEVELOPER CAN.
AND THEN ONCE THE DEVELOPER'S NO LONGER IN CHARGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HOA TAKES CARE OF THE, OF THAT AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA WANT CONTROL OVER THAT.
SO THEY CHIME INTO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, SENDS VIOLATIONS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
SO THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THOSE ARE HANDLED.
YOU KNOW, I, I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MR. MAYOR, I, UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AND UH, I'D LIKE TO GET SCHOOLED UP ON THIS A LITTLE MORE.
EITHER THAT OR I'LL JUST VOTE NO.
BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM.
THIS JUST SEEMS HERE WE ARE GETTING READY TO ACT ON AN ITEM WITH 50 AND NO WAY TO POLICE THAT.
AND IT COULD AFFECT PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIVES FOR YEARS.
UH, SO, UH, I'VE SAID MY PIECE, BUT EITHER IF WE VOTE ON IT TONIGHT, I'M GONNA VOTE NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE TILL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON ITEM FIVE A IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.
SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE? SEPTEMBER THE 14TH.
AND I'D LIKE TO GET SCHOOLED UP ON THAT AND CALL ME AND WE'LL FIGURE A TIME TO MEET.
AYE, YOU, YOU CAN PUNCH YOUR BUTTON AND IT WORKS.
UH, HE, HE JUST CAN'T DISPLAY IT.
FIVE ZERO TO CONTINUE THAT ITEM.
CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING? SORRY.
CAN WE, CAN WE GET A LITTLE INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON THE CODE? THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST GONNA TELL YOU.
WE'LL, WE WILL INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE 14TH.
IS IT COMPLIANT OR NOT? WHAT ARE THE EXCEPTIONS, ET CETERA.
[B. Case No. Z26-00013; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4098 Rezoning Certain Property Located at 930 East 2nd Street from "E-1" Retail General Commercial to "PUD Z26-00013" Central Plaza Planned Unit Development and Providing An Effective Date. (Varghese; Ward 1)]
ITEM FIVE B CASE NUMBER Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 3 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 9 8 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY LOCATED AT NINE 30 E SECOND STREET FROM E ONE RETAIL GENERAL COMMERCIAL TWO PUDZ 26 DASH 0 0 1 3 CENTRAL PLAZA PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU MR. BRIAN? YES SIR.
SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SECOND STREET WEST OF WATER WOOD PARKWAY.
NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH ACROSS.
SECOND ARE CIVIC USES INCLUDING FIRE STATION ONE TO THE EAST IS ZONED TO DEVELOPED AS GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE ZONED AND DEVELOPED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THE PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE ALLOWED USES WOULD INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, RESTAURANT, OFFICE, CONVENIENCE STORE, EVENT SPACE, MEETING ROOMS, AND HEALTH AND BEAUTY TREATMENT.
THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ALLOWED DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE INCREASED BY 19 TO 152 TOTAL.
THE EXISTING BUILDING AND SITE FEATURES SUCH AS BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, ACCESS, CIRCULATION, PARKING, SIDEWALKS, UTILITIES, ET CETERA, ARE NOT PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED.
A SITE PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED TO REVIEW, CONFIRM, AND APPROVE THESE AND OTHER SITE DESIGN DETAILS.
THE ADMIN PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
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CATEGORY SUPPORTS A WIDE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY AS PROPOSED IN THIS PUD.THESE ADDITIONAL UNITS COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO STUDENTS WHO NEED A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES NEAR CAMPUS BASED ON THESE CONDITIONS.
THE PROPOSED PUD APPEARS TO CONFORM TO THE EDMOND PLAN AT THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
WILL THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? YOU DON'T HAVE TO
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY YOU GAVE ME.
BASICALLY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
I AM THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY.
UM, BASICALLY THIS IS EIGHT EIGHT FLOORS AND EACH FLOOR HAS 19 DWELLING UNIT.
IT USED TO BE LIKE THAT, BUT THE PREVIOUS OWNER, UH, HE REMODELED THE FIRST FLOOR INDIA COMMERCIAL SPACE.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO, UH, REMODEL BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, UH, 19 DWELLING UNITS.
WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? I HAD ONE QUESTION MYSELF.
UM, THERE'S A SPA THAT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IS THAT STAYING, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT KICKING ALL THESE OUT AND REPLACING IT ALL WITH APARTMENTS.
YOU'RE JUST RE REPURPOSING WHAT HAD BEEN CHANGED INTO OFFICE SPACE ON THE GROUND FLOOR BACK IN THE ROOM AREA.
IS THAT WHAT'S GOING ON? YES SIR.
THE SPY SPIES GOING TO STILL STAY SAME.
THIS TALL EIGHT STORY BUILDING, THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, OF THAT EIGHT STORY BUILDING ONLY WE ARE REMODELING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND MOVE TO APPROVE.
[C. Case No. U26-00007; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Home Spa Massage, Located at 151 E 33rd Street, Suite 103. (Zhang; Ward 3)]
ON FIVE C.CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 7 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR HOME SPA MASSAGE LOCATED AT 1 5 1 EAST 33RD STREET, SUITE 1 0 3 IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH EDMUND'S RECENTLY APPROVED SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS.
THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 33RD WEST OF BOULEVARD AND HAS PROVIDED THOSE ITEMS REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH REGARD TO THERAPIST LICENSE AND FACADES AT THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEDIAN ON AUGUST 4TH, 2026.
PLAN, WILL THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE, BEAUTIFUL, AND, UH, WELL-MANAGED.
I FULLY SUPPORT THE CITY'S GOAL FOR PREVENTING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND MAINTAINING HIGH STANDARDS FOR MASSAGE THERAPIES BUSINESSES.
I'M DEDICATED TO RUNNING YOUR PROFESSIONAL, HONEST BUSINESS THAT SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY.
I RESPECT FULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO EVALUATE LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES BASED ON FACTS, LICENSING AND THE COMPLIANCE RATHER THAN STIGMA OR ASSUMPTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, THANKS FOR BEING THE FIRST ONE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING, IT WAS, UM, IT'S KIND OF CUMBERSOME.
I JUST A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING.
MAYBE KEN, MAYBE FOR YOU, I'M NOT SURE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE LICENSE REQUIREMENTS, IS IT ONE PER LOCATION OR ONE PER PERSON? CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME HOW THAT WORKS? THE THERAPISTS ARE LICENSED, NOT THE LOCATIONS.
AND NONE OF THIS ADDRESSES OPERATING HOURS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST THE LICENSE THAT WASN'T PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS? NO.
MS. ZANG, IF YOU'D COME BACK UP PLEASE.
UM, THERE'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND I'M JUST GONNA ADDRESS IT.
UM, NON DOC RAN A STORY A YEAR
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OR TWO AGO ABOUT PROSTITUTION BUSTS THAT WERE DONE IN CITY REGARDING THROUGH THE ILLEGAL MASSAGE PARLORS.AND YOURS WAS ONE OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UH, INVOLVED IN THAT.
NO CHARGES WERE FILED AGAINST YOU.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY WERE FILED AGAINST ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES AND YOU GAVE AN EXPLANATION.
I'M FINE WITH THE EXPLANATION.
MY CONCERN THOUGH IS YOU MADE THE STATEMENT TO NON DOC THAT YOU HAD EMPLOYEES THAT WERE SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE THEY HAD NO OTHER PLACE TO LIVE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO YOU STILL HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF YOUR ESTABLISHMENT? YES.
UM, THE REASON WHY THIS, UM, HOW TO STAY THERE IS, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE PERSON, THEY ARE NOT A LOCAL PERSON AND WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY ARE GOING TO WORK FOR ME.
THEY ARE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR.
SO IF THEY SIGN A LEASE TO LIVE IN A LIKE LOCAL APARTMENT, THEY HAVE TO, THEY MAYBE CAN BREAK LEASE ANYTIME AND THE WAY ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THOSE BEFORE.
SO THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES, UH, FOR THE PERSON COME FROM FAR AWAY THIS, THAT THE, UM, PRIORITY.
I HAVE A LOT OF HEARTBURN ON THAT.
UM, WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THE EXACT SITUATION THAT WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED WITH AND THAT'S HUMAN TRAFFICKING BECAUSE THEY'RE STAYING ON SITE.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT THE, THE, WHAT THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION IS ON THIS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND AND IT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE, UM, I CAN GO TO ANY OF THE NATIONAL SPAS THAT ARE OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT HAVE LOCATIONS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR MASSAGE THERAPIST SLEEPING IN THE BACK ROOM.
SO IT DOES GIVE ME PAUSE ON THIS ONE AND YOU'RE THE FIRST.
AND THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH A SITUATION WHERE PERCEPTION FALLS INTO TO REALITY HERE? AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, BUT THERE I, TO BE HONEST, I DIDN'T, UH, GET ANY LIKE LETTERS OR SOMETHING TOLD ME MY EMPLOYEE CANNOT THAT THE PROPERTY, IF I GET THAT I CAN, UM, I MEAN, UH, TAKE ACTION TO CHANGE IT.
LET ME, LET ME ASK MR. BRIAN A QUESTION.
SO THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BEING USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES IF IF THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE LIVING IN THE FACILITY.
IS THAT ALLOWABLE? UM, I NEED TO, I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT COMMON.
SO MAYBE WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS ONE YES.
UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14TH SO WE CAN GET SOME ANSWERS ON THIS BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT BECAUSE IF WE APPROVE IT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING CODE AND IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS, BUT IT'S LEGAL, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS TO NOT ONLY PROTECT HER BUSINESS, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT THE CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO CAN I GET A MOTION ON THAT? MOTION TO CONTINUE NEXT MEETING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE YEAH, SEPTEMBER 14TH.
I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
THAT ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14TH.
[D. Danforth and Kelly:]
NOW ON FIVE D, DANFORTH AND KELLY, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS HERE.UH, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FROM 2000 CIP RESERVES TO THE 2000 CIP STREETS BUDGET FOR DANFORTH AND KELLY IN THE AMOUNT OF $56,946 AND 10 CENTS.
AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF AN ADDITIONAL INVOICE FROM THE OKLAHOMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE DANFORTH AND KELLY INTERSECTION PROJECT $1,046,142 AND 10 CENTS.
CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THE TWO ITEMS IN FRONT OF YOU ARE, UM, FROM OUR DANFORTH
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AND KELLY PROJECT.UM, THE REASON WHY WE'RE BRINGING HIM BACK FORWARD TO YOU IS BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
UM, ODOT HAD APPROACHED US WITH A INVOICE THAT WE TYPICALLY GET RIGHT AFTER THE BID PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS INTERSECTION.
IT WENT TO A DIFFERENT TIER THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR.
UM, ODOT HANDLES ALL THE INSPECTION WHEN WE GET FEDERAL MONEY THROUGH THEM.
THEY HANDLE THE ENGINEERING INSPECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROJECT, THEY BUMPED IT UP AND OUTSOURCED IT.
SO THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN OUR INVOICE.
IT TOOK THEM A WHILE TO GET THAT INVOICE TO US.
AND SO HERE WE ARE WITH AN INCREASE IN WHAT WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
STEVE LAWRENCE WITH ENGINEERING IS HERE AS WELL.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN'T ANSWER.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW DID STEVE CONVINCE YOU TO BRIEF THIS ONE AND NOT HIM? ROCK PAPER SCISSORS,
I WATCHED THIS, I WATCHED THE CIP VIDEO ON THIS ONE AND IT WASN'T, UH, WASN'T SUPER PLEASANT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A SITUATION I THINK WHERE WE WERE SURPRISED BY A, AN INVOICE SHOWING UP, RIGHT? IT'S NOT REAL CLEAR TO ME ON, WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE LEARNED SOME LESSONS HERE.
I HEARD THE CIP DISCUSSION ON, UM, TIGHTENING UP COMMUNICATIONS WITH ODOT SO THAT WE KNOW AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMMUNICATING A LITTLE BETTER.
SO I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE, THE MECHANICS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
SO WE HAD, IT LOOKED LIKE FROM THE WRITEUP THAT WE HAD, UM, 900 SOMETHING K 9 89 K BUDGETED.
AND SO IT'S A 56 K INCREASE, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE IN THE CIP DISCUSSIONS, THE, IT WAS LIKE A MILLION DOLLAR SURPRISE.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS IT 50 K MORE THAN WE PLANNED OR IS IT A MILLION MORE THAN WE PLANNED? WELL, SO THE 900 OVER A LITTLE OVER 900 THAT WAS BUDGETED WAS WHAT WE HELD BACK FOR CHANGE ORDERS OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD COME DURING THE PROJECT.
WHEN THEY CAME TO US WITH THE INVOICE, SINCE WE ALREADY HAD PART OF IT OR ALMOST ALL OF IT BUDGETED, THE INCREASE OF THAT 56,000 WOULD TAKE US TO THE 1 MILLION OVER THE $1 MILLION INVOICE THAT IS REQUIRED.
I MEAN, ON A, ON A PROJECT OF HOW MUCH DID THIS PROJECT COST? 8 MILLION OR SOMETHING? I THINK IT WAS LIKE 9.5.
SO ON A PROJECT OF THAT SIZE, HAVING A $56,000 SORT OF SETTLE UP AT THE END OR A SURPRISE.
I MEAN, 50,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT RELATIVELY IT'S NOT A BIG PERCENTAGE.
UM, BUT I GUESS THE CONCERN THEN MAYBE ARE HAVE WE TOTALLY SPENT OUR RESERVE FOR FUTURE CHANGES? SO WE WILL HAVE TO, I'LL LET STEVE COME UP.
HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA, MY GOAL IS TO GET HIM UP HERE.
UM, I, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS THAT WILL BE COMING, UM, AT THE, BUT IT MAY BE TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE WE GET ALL THE CHANGE ORDERS.
AGAIN, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO US AFTER THE BID DOCUMENTS WERE DONE AND HAD BEEN OUR PORTION THAT WE ARE REQUIRED.
'CAUSE THERE IS A MAX, UM, THAT, THAT THE FEDERAL MONEY'S GONNA COVER.
SO THIS WOULD'VE BEEN AT THAT 18 MONTHS AGO WHEN WE PAID OUR INITIAL INVOICE, UM, THAT IT JUST TOOK 'EM A WHILE TO GET IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GONNA OUTSOURCE IT.
UM, I DO KNOW THERE IS A CHANGE OF THE WAY ODOT IS GOING TO BE DOING, SETTING ASIDE THEIR PERCENTAGE FOR THE INSPECTIONS GOING FORWARD.
UM, AND WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH ODOT WITH OUR COMMUNICATION TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE GIVEN US MORE MONEY ON OTHER PROJECTS.
AND SO GOING FORWARD THAT COMMUNICATION, UM, IS GONNA BE OPENED EVEN MORE.
AND IN FACT WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM TOMORROW, SO.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK, UH, DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? GO AHEAD.
UH, STEVE LAWRENCE, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, UM, WHAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL PAYMENT THAT WE MADE TO ODOT FOR THIS CONTRACT WAS BASED ON AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST.
AND SO, UH, THE FIRST PAYMENT WAS AN ESTIMATE.
UH, THE, THE 6% IS AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THEY USUALLY CHARGE FOR INSPECTION SERVICES, BUT IT'S NOT A CAP.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS BASED ON ESTIMATES.
SO THE BITS CAME IN $1.2 MILLION OVER THAT ORIGINAL ESTIMATE.
SO WE KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
UM, ODO T'S BEEN CHANGING A LITTLE BIT AWAY HOW THEY COMMUNICATE.
UM, THEY HAVE STOPPED, UH, KIND OF FOOTING THE BILL FOR CITIES, UH, AND THEY HAVE STARTED INVOICING SOONER.
UM, WE FULLY EXPECT WE HAVE ABOUT $500,000 IN CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE'RE STILL EXPECTING.
NORMALLY WE, WE BUDGET THAT IN FUTURE YEARS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, UH, USUALLY THEY GO THROUGH AN AUDITING PROCESS AT THE END OF, OF CONSTRUCTION AND IT CAN TAKE ONE TO TWO YEARS FOR THEM TO GET THERE.
SO, UH, IF WE GET TO NEXT FISCAL, WE'LL BUDGET FOR THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT THEN, SO, OKAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A COMBINATION.
UH, WE ENDED UP WITH ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT INSPECTION, UH, COST ON THIS ONE.
UH, INSTEAD OF THE NORMAL 6%, BUT IT'S ALSO
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PART OF IT WAS OVERAGES ON THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION COST AND THE FEDERAL FUNDS WERE CAPPED AT 7.3 MILLION.SO BACK TO MR. WATERS'S COMMENT, REALLY AND TRULY WHAT WE DIDN'T GET BUDGETED IS BASICALLY 56,000 THAT WE'RE HAVING TO BRING FORWARD.
CORRECT? WE HAD, WE HAD THE OTHER NINE 90 AND CHANGE PLAN FOR, IT'S JUST WE GOT THE SURPRISE INVOICE.
IF WE HADN'T HAVE GOT IT, WE WOULD'VE SAID WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.
IF IT, IF IT WAS UNDER, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE EVENTUALLY WE'LL GO OVER THE RESERVE AMOUNT ANYWAY.
I MEAN, I KNOW WE VALUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH ODOT ON THESE KIND OF PROJECTS.
I THINK IT DID RUB SOME PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY THAT IT KIND OF CAME IN AS A SURPRISE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A HEADS UP.
SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THAT.
I'D SAY THAT PUBLICLY THAT WE APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERSHIP AND ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, IT MAKES IT AFFORDABLE FOR CITIES TO DO IT THE WAY WE DID IT.
UM, BUT NOT THRILLED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT ALL HAPPENED, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, ON THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE FROM AND TWO AND RESERVES NUMBER WERE THE SAME.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A TYPO THERE, BUT I'M JUST, MAYBE WE CAN UPDATE THAT AFTERWARDS.
ON PAGE 37, I WAS CURIOUS WHAT THE RESULTANT RESERVES BALANCE WAS.
I, BUT THAT PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO BE A FOLLOW UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SEE, NONE.
WE NEED TO VOTE ON A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO PASS ITEM FIVE D TWO SECOND.
MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
THE DANFORTH AND KELLY INTERSECTION LOOKS AMAZING, SO GREAT JOB.
YEAH, I, I DID WANNA ADD THAT.
AND, UM, APPRECIATE ODOT FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE IT COMPLETE.
[E. Consideration of Approval of a Budget Amendment for a Transfer of Appropriation from the Facility Maintenance Budget for Contract Services to the Police Department Budget for Overtime Pay; $60,000.00. (Citywide)]
WE'RE NOW ON FIVE E CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION FROM THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE BUDGET FOR CONTRACT SERVICES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.BUDGET FOR OVERTIME PAYING THE AMOUNT OF $60,000.
MS. ROBERTSON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JANE ROBERTSON, MANAGEMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO BRING THIS TRANSFER BEFORE YOU BECAUSE IT IS BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS, SO WE CAN'T DO THIS ADMINISTRATIVELY PER THE APPROVED BUDGET POLICY.
UM, WE ORIGINALLY HAD MONEY BUDGETED IN THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE FUND FOR CONTRACT SECURITY, UM, WHICH COVERED MUNICIPAL COURT.
UM, AFTER THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED, UH, WE, WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GONNA CONTINUE POSSIBLY DOWN THE THIRD PARTY ROUTE, SO WE LEFT IT THERE.
UM, AND THEN AFTER JULY ONE WE, THAT FELL THROUGH AND SO WE STARTED UTILIZING, UH, VOLUNTARY OVERTIME OFFICERS FROM OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO WE TALKED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT POSSIBLY CONTINUING THAT.
UM, BUT WE ARE INCURRING EXPENSES BY UTILIZING THOSE OFFICERS AND SO WE WERE TRANSFERRING MONEY TO COVER THOSE EXPENSES.
UM, AND THE 60,000 WOULD COVER US FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AMOUNT FOR CONTRACT SECURITY FOR BOTH THIS BUILDING AND COURT WAS 180,000.
SO THIS IS JUST 60,000 OF THAT.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I ALSO HAVE OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR, YOLANDA, HERE WITH ME.
OH,
IS THE RATE THE SAME BETWEEN THE TWO? NO.
OUR OFFICERS ARE GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A THIRD PARTY CONTRACT SECURITY.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE ASKED ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, I THINK AHEAD OF TIME.
WE KNOW IT'S GOING FROM FUND TO FUND, UM, WHICH MEANS WE CAN'T USE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY TO GET US THERE.
WE'RE NOT ADDING MONEY TO THE BUDGET, WE'RE SIMPLY MOVING IT.
SO, UM, WHERE I WOULD ALWAYS LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER SO THAT WE CAN ROLL SOME AMENDMENTS TOGETHER.
UM, WE'RE ALL STILL LEARNING AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO TO THAT POINT, I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE.
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IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TONIGHT? SEEING NONE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? WELL, I AM, I'M GLAD THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS AGREED TO SERVICE THIS SERVICE IN THIS WAY AND I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[F. Bicycle / Pedestrian Safety:]
F BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.F1 IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO SUPPORT THE FY 2027 OKLAHOMA HIGHWAY SAFETY OFFICE, BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY GRANT AND REMAINING FY 26 OHSO BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY GRANT EXPENSES.
ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF A FY 2027 GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE OKLAHOMA HIGHWAY SAFETY OFFICE FOR BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,000.
MS. BATTERSON CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THE TWO ITEMS IN FRONT OF YOU IS TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WE WON WITH OKLAHOMA HIGHWAY, UH, SAFETY OFFICE, AS WELL AS MAKE THAT A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE EXPENSES TO, UH, ADMINISTER THIS GRANT.
THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR OF WINNING THIS GRANT FOR THIS PROGRAM.
UM, WE ARE FINISHING UP THIS FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR, UH, CURRENTLY.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING IT.
IT IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BY THE WAY.
QUESTIONS, I'M NOT GONNA ASK QUESTIONS ON EVERYONE TONIGHT, I PROMISE.
UH, ON THE FISCAL IMPACT PART OF THIS, I'M ALSO STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND JUST WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE GOING.
THERE'S THREE, TWO ACCOUNTS, THE TOTAL MORE THAN 30,000.
SO WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM AND WHERE'S IT GOING TO HERE? SO PRE REIMBURSEMENT.
SO THE MONEY, UH, SO THE MONEY, WE TYPICALLY DON'T BOOK THE REVENUE WHEN WE GET A GRANT AND IT, IT IS AN EXPENSE AHEAD OF TIME AS YOU JUST SAID, AND THEN IT'S REIMBURSED.
UM, AND SO WE TYPICALLY JUST SHOW THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THE, UH, REVENUE AND THEN WE HAVE THE EXPENSES AND THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES OR THE PRINTING SERVICES IN THIS, IN THIS CASE.
SO I THINK THERE'S TWO CATEGORIES OF EXPENSES.
THERE'S THREE LISTED ON THIS ONE AND TWO ON THE NEXT ONE.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
MAYBE I'LL FOLLOW UP AFTERWARDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL I IT THERE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? WHEN DID WE APPLY FOR THIS GRANT? WE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT BACK IN MARCH AND WE WERE NOTIFIED OF AWARD TWO WEEKS AGO.
IF WE APPLIED FOR IT IN MARCH, WE HAD TIME TO INCLUDE IT IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
WE HAD NOT FINALIZED OUR, OUR BUDGET WORK FOR FY 2026 OR LOOKING AHEAD TO 27, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE DON'T TYPICALLY, UM, BOOK OR ANTICIPATE GRANT FUNDING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A, UNLESS IT'S AN ENTITLEMENT LIKE OUR CDBG OR CLINK, WE, IF WE'RE A COMPETITIVE GRANT, WE TYPICALLY WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE GRANT AGREEMENT.
BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT OUR CITY MANAGER AND I'M GONNA SAY IF WE'RE OUT APPLYING FOR, FOR GRANTS, IT MAKES IT INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO PLAN IF WE DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT MONEY WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MATCH WITH AND WE CAN ALWAYS PLUG IT INTO A BUDGET.
AND IF WE DON'T GET IT, WE DON'T SPEND IT AND THEN WE PULL IT BACK OUT WHENEVER WE DO SOME TYPE OF, UH, CITYWIDE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, MIDYEAR END OF THE YEAR, WHATEVER.
SO WE'VE GOTTA START THINKING THAT WAY BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S WHAT, UNFORTUNATELY YOU'VE BEEN THE ONE TO STAND UP HERE MOST OFTEN WITH US AND HEAR US SAY, WE GOTTA BE THINKING PROACTIVELY.
WE'VE GOTTA GET AHEAD OF THIS BECAUSE ALL IT DOES IS LOOK LIKE ALL WE'RE DOING IS COMING BACK, ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FROM THE CITY TO DO THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR.
AND I WILL SAY ON THE ONES THAT DO REQUIRE A MATCH, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT OF TRYING TO ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT MATCH WOULD BE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT BUDGETED.
FOR THE ONES LIKE THIS ONE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A MATCH, THOSE WOULD BE TREATED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BUDGET THEM AHEAD OF TIME.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS UP HERE? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SEEING NONE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION TO APPROVE F1.
OH, I'M GLAD THAT WE GOT THE GRANT AND I'LL SECOND IT.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
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WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH F TWO? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.FIVE F TWO IS A FIVE ZERO VOTE.
I, UH, WILL MAKE ONE EDITORIAL COMMENT HERE AS THE CHAIR THAT I VERY BEGRUDGINGLY APPROVED, VOTED YES ON F1 AND I VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY VOTED YES ON ON F TWO.
I LIKE US GETTING GRANT MONEY, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT SO THAT WE ARE A LITTLE CLEARER ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING INTO A FISCAL YEAR.
[6. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]
SAID, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM SIX.I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
CALL TO ORDER THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
BEFORE WE MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING WHILE THERE'S A NUMBER OF CITIZENS HERE IN THE ROOM IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
UH, LIEUTENANT OAK WAS SITTING OVER HERE.
WELL I CAN'T SEE HIM, BUT I KNOW HE IS OVER THERE.
HE WAS INJURED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, UH, DOING HIS JOB AND, UH, HE'S BEEN OUT AND HE'S BEEN IN PAIN.
HE HURT AND HE WENT THROUGH THE WORK TO GET BETTER AND HE'S HERE TONIGHT.
SO LET'S EVERYBODY GIVE HIM A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND WELCOME BACK.
GIVE HIM A MORE COMFORTABLE CHAIR OVER THERE, DON'T WE? THANK YOU LP.
[7. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM SEVEN, PUBLIC COURT AUTHORITY, GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE EIGHT ITEMS THIS EVENING, HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL G FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.SO WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION TO APPROVES SEVEN A THROUGH H MINUS G.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[A. Consideration of Public Works Authority General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
EIGHT.PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ITEM EIGHT A IS GONNA BRING US BACK TO THE ONE WE PULLED.
SO SEVEN G CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF PAYMENT OF THE FUNCTION SPACE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000.
MR. PATTERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT HERE? PATTERSON, UM, HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
UH, THERE'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM RELATED TO THIS, SO I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE RELATED.
I DIDN'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT HERE, BUT THOUGHT IT, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD CONTINUE IT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
SO THAT WAS WHY I ASKED TO PULL THIS IN 10 Q WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WE MAY BE CONTINUING THOSE AND I KNOW THAT THE ISSUE IS MOVING FORWARD SO WE COULD DEAL WITH THIS ONE.
WE COULD NO, NO, I THEY'RE FOR, YEAH, THEY'RE FOR A DIFFERENT ITEM.
I'M SORRY THAT THEY, THEY'RE NOT RELATED TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM.
NO, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THIS ONE HAS GARNERED SOME ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S RELATED TO LEGACY OF COVE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER, UM, THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE QUESTION HAS BECOME DO WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD WHILE WE'RE MOVING IN ON THE OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO THAT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I MEAN, I KNOW SINCE I DON'T KNOW WHERE I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATION, I KNOW THAT I THINK WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE.
IS THAT A GOOD WAY TO PUT THAT MR. CITY MANAGER DOWN THERE? I THINK HOW I'D PREFER TO ANSWER IS THAT THIS ITEM G IS PURSUANT TO AN AN AGREEMENT, UH, BE, UH, BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE, AND THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO MIX THE TWO.
CERTAINLY NOT IN PUBLIC, NOT IN OPEN SESSION.
SO WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THIS ONE IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
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ZERO.[B. Consideration of Acceptance of Bid and Approval of Agreement for SS24-00007 Coffee Creek Water Resource Recovery Facility (WRRF) Clarifier Rehabilitation and Filter Splitter Box Improvements; $14,988,038.00. (Citywide)]
ALL RIGHT.WE ARE NOW ON TO ITEM EIGHT B, CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE BID AND APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT FOR SS TWO FOUR DASH 0 0 0 0 7 COFFEE CREEK WATER RESOURCE RECOVERY FACILITY, CLARIFY A REHABILITATION AND FILTER SPLITTER BOX IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,988,038.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
CHRIS KNIFING, DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS ONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE PLANNING STAGES FOR A LITTLE BIT, WAS IN OUR CIP AND RATE PLAN IS A LITTLE MORE THAN EXPECTED.
UM, WE'VE GOT FINANCING IN PLACE, UH, FOR THIS WITH OUR EXISTING FAP LOAN, UH, I GUESS TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, CROSSLAND HEAVY IS THE CONTRACTOR, UM, NOT CROSSLAND CONSTRUCTION.
SO, AND THEY, THEY DID THE FIRST PHASE OF THE WATER PLANT CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAD A GOOD PROJECT OUT OF IT.
SO QUESTIONS? I THINK YOU ANSWERED MINE.
WELL, WE DID REVIEW THIS AT PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IN THE PACKET, SO I'LL REMIND STAFF TO PLEASE ADD THE NOTE IF A BORDER COMMISSION HAS APPROVED OR VOTED.
AND SO THE PUBLIC IS, YEAH, IT'S MY FAULT.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE REVIEWED THIS AND, UH, VOTED TO APPROVE IT SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.
YEAH, WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY IN PUBLIC WORKS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION.
I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
MR. ING, THAT'S ABOUT THE EASIEST.
YOU'VE GOTTEN OFF WITH THIS COUNSEL IN MONTHS, ISN'T IT?
[C. Discussion and Consideration of the Second Amended and Restated Development and Financing Assistance Agreement with 103 Broadway, LLC and 18 W Hurd, to Induce and Support a Mixed-Use Development at the Northwest Corner of Broadway and Hurd in Downtown Edmond to Provide for Assistance in Development Financing to 103 Broadway, LLC and 18 W Hurd. (Ward 1)]
ITEM EIGHT C IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCING ASSISTANCE AGREEMENT WITH 1 0 3 BROADWAY, LLC AND 18 WEST HERD TO INDUCE AND SUPPORT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BROADWAY AND HERD IN DOWNTOWN EDMOND TO PROVIDE FOR ASSISTANCE IN DEVELOPMENT FINANCING TO 1 0 3 BROADWAY, LLC AND 18 WEST HERD.THIS AGREEMENT IS JUST EXTENDING THE COMPLETION DATE FOR THIS PROJECT.
I HAVE THE, UM, DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
I DIDN'T HEAR THAT LAST SENTENCE.
THE LAST SENTENCE THE DEVELOPERS REPRESENTED HERE.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SO WHY DID THE BACK END MOVE FIVE MONTHS WHEN THE FRONT END MOVED? TWO MONTHS IS MY ONLY QUESTION.
DO YOU WANT THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE, WE ALLOWED, WE WORKED WITH THE, UH, ULTIMATELY THE RECIPIENT, UH, WANT TO MOVE THE COMMENCEMENT DATE BACK TO A POINT AT WHICH HE WAS CERTAIN HE WOULD'VE, UH, UH, UH, BEGUN OR COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION.
'CAUSE IT TURNS OUT HE DIDN'T EVEN NEED THAT ENTIRE PERIOD.
WE WERE JUST A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE WITH THE DATE WE PICKED ON THE COMMENCEMENT SIDE.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THE DATES DIDN'T ALL, THEY BOTH, THE FIRST ONE MOVED THREE MONTHS, SECOND ONE MOVED FIVE MONTHS.
THE FIRST ONE WAS JUST BEING, UH, A LITTLE BIT, UH, CONSERVATIVE WITH WHEN IT WOULD START.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S JUST AN UPDATED ASSESSMENT FROM HIM ABOUT HOW LONG HE THINKS IT'LL TAKE HIM.
IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
I, I THINK I HAVE A COMMENT HERE.
THIS ONE KEEPS COMING BACK TO US.
I JUST WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
I DON'T, I DON'T PLAN ON VOTING YES.
ON ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES ON DATES ON THIS THING.
LET'S GET THIS PROJECT STARTED AND GET IT FINISHED.
UM, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE WE'RE CHANGING THE DATES HERE, BUT I DON'T WANNA SEE IT BACK HERE AGAIN.
SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[9. Recess of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
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I WOULD NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS THE MOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE.[10. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
NOW ON ITEM 10, CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE 20 ITEMS THIS EVENING.I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS ITEMS. CDP, Q AND T.
[A. Consideration of City Council General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
ON TO ITEM 11 A, WHICH IS GOING BACK TO OUR ONES WE PULLED.CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 29 DASH 26 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO SUPPORT A JOINT GRANT APPLICATION WITH CITY OF NORMAN AND CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY.
EMBARK FOR THE INNOVATIVE COORDINATE, COORDINATED ACCESS AND MOBILITY ICAM PROGRAM, UH, PILOT PROGRAM.
MS. BATTERSON, CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS, UM, EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.
IT'S A RESOLUTION FOR SUPPORT.
THIS APPLICATION IS BETWEEN CITY OF EDMOND, CITY OF NORMAN IN OKLAHOMA CITY.
IT IS FOR A REGIONAL PARATRANSIT PLAN.
UM, THAT TO HELP RIGHT NOW WE, ON OUR PARATRANSIT, WE STAY WITHIN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES.
FOR US THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE FROM A FIXED ROUTE.
UM, EMBARK, UH, EMBARK IN CITY OF NORMAN CAN TRAVERSE BACK AND FORTH, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE EMBARK RUNS CITY OF NORMAN'S, UH, FLEET RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THIS WOULD'VE KIND OF PLAN WHAT A REGIONAL, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE REGIONALLY TO MOVE PEOPLE FROM HERE DOWN TO OKLAHOMA CITY OR VICE VERSA THAT WOULD NEED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE OR, UH, SHOPPING, ET CETERA.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO LET'S JUST MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR.
THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM WITH GRANT FUNDING ATTACHED AND THIS IS ABOUT COORDINATING BASICALLY HANDICAPPED TRANSIT RIDERS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, I GUESS, UM, BETWEEN EDMOND, OKLAHOMA CITY.
I DOUBT WE'D SEE ANYONE GO FROM EDMOND ALL THE WAY TO NORMAN, BUT I MEAN, IN THEORY YOU COULD.
IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S CREATING THAT INTEROPERABILITY SO THAT WE DO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THIS GRANT WOULD BE FOR A PLAN TO SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK OUT AND WHAT WE WOULD NEED.
THIS THIS IS NOT ONE TRANSIT, THIS IS NOT TRYING TO SNEAK THE TRAIN IN ON PEOPLE.
THIS IS SIMPLY DEALING WITH PARATRANSIT ISSUES.
I WANNA MAKE, I WANNA MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR, UM, BECAUSE I, I CAN ASSURE YOU THE WAY THINGS GOT POSTED.
SO TO SOCIAL MEDIA LAST WEEK, UM, THERE WERE QUESTIONS AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL OR QUESTIONS? MY QUESTION WAS JUST WHAT ARE WE COMMITTING TO BY GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS? SO IT IS JUST A STATE, IT'S A FEDERALLY COMP, UH, FEDERAL COMPETITIVE GRANT.
UH, SO IF WE WERE AWARDED, OUR PORTION WOULD BE 10,000, LIKE NORMAN'S PORTION EMBARK WOULD BE TAKING THE MAJORITY OF THE PORTION.
THE LANGUAGE IN THE WRITEUP SAYS PREPARE FOR A TRANSITION.
SO IT WAS JUST, JUST CLARIFYING THAT WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO THAT NECESSARILY.
5 0 10 D IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A BUILT ENVIRONMENT GRANT AGREEMENT FROM THE TOBACCO SETTLEMENT ENDOWMENT TRUST TSET FOR A PARKS AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
FRANK HALE WITH EDMUND PARKS AND RECREATION
ALRIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET DOWN TO THAT MICROPHONE.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT THIS ONE?
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UM, IT'S A GRANT FROM TSAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR I THINK BUILD, UM, ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD BE GETTING I THINK $138,000, UM, TO DEVELOP AN OVERALL PARKS MASTER PLAN.UM, BASICALLY THE COORDINATION OF ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PARKS WHERE WE NEED TO PUT SOME MORE FOCUS, A BALANCE OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, OUR MATCH PORTION WOULD BE 15,000.
UM, I THINK THE TOTAL IS 153,000.
QUESTIONS? UM, THIS ONE BASICALLY WE'VE GOT THE 15,000 ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
IF THE MONEY SHOWS UP THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE GOT AT LEAST THAT AMOUNT IN A SOURCE THAT WE CAN PULL FROM WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.
IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE PANICKING BACK HERE A MONTH FROM NOW SAYING WE NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR $15,000.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE TO OUTLAY THE INITIAL COST.
WE'LL, WE'LL WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WE'LL GET THERE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'LL MOVE CHAIR.
WE'RE NOW ON 10 P CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF BID AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER THREE ZERO DASH 26 APPOINTED APPOINTING PURCHASING AGENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 CONCRETE PAVING RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR ENGINEERING IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,517,818 AND 91 CENTS.
MR. WATERSON, YOU ASKED THAT ONE BE PULLED AT THE LAST MINUTE.
HAS IT GONE THROUGH CIP ADVISORY BOARD? UH, FOR THE, UH, BUDGET? YES.
FOR THE, THIS IS A, THIS IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE BEDS.
AN AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR WHICH WE HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS, UM, FROM THE BED OPENING TIME PERIOD AND OKAY.
BUT LIKE THE PROJECTS AND THE PRIORITY THIS IS, IS THIS GENERAL FUND SCOPE THAT WE SHIFTED OVER TO CIP? NO, THIS IS, SO THIS IS PART OF THE ANNUAL PAVEMENT, UH, PROJECT.
AND SO, UH, AS FAR AS LIKE THE LIST OF PROJECTS, UM, I THINK THAT'S BEEN THROUGH CIPI DON'T THINK IT HAS.
I I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THE BACK WHEN IT WAS THE PAVEMENT TESTING, UH, AND RESULTS IS THAT THESE WERE THE, THE TOP OF THE LIST.
IT, IT'S, WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY ADOPTED STEVE A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY ADOPTED THE EIGHT YEAR PLAN YET.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, UH, TESTING RESULTS AND THOSE ARE ALL, WE'RE JUST GOING KIND OF THROUGH THOSE RESULTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE OR TWO OF THESE.
SO I I MADE A POINT LAST MEETING THAT WHEN THINGS COME FROM BOARDS AND COMMISSION TERRITORY, THEY NEED TO GO TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS BEFORE THEY COME TO US.
SO WHAT I'M LEANING TOWARDS IS CONTINUING THIS SO YOU'ALL CAN DO THAT PROCESS.
DOES THAT AFFECT THE TIMING OF THE BIDS OR ANYTHING? UH, I BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER KIND OF ACTION TONIGHT TO, UH, IF WE HAVE JUST CAUSE TO NOT AWARD THIS WITHIN 30 DAYS BECAUSE THE NEXT COUNCIL IS BEYOND THE 30 DAY WINDOW, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER.
I CAN'T HEAR SEE YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
NO, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING DOWN THERE.
IF I'M HEARING STEVE LAWRENCE CORRECTLY, THEN THE 30 DAYS, I DON'T HAVE THE DATES HERE, BUT IF THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AFTER CIP BOARD PUTS IT BEYOND THE 30 DAYS TO AWARD THE BID, YOU'D HAVE TO START OVER.
SO YOU EITHER HAVE TO AWARD OR REJECT.
I MEAN, IS IT HILL YOU WANNA DIE ON? YEAH.
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HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? WELL, I COMMISSION IT BECOMES ONE OF THOSE.UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN OUR STANDARD PROCESS.
UH, THIS IS TWO AND TWO MEETINGS.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THIS HAS NOT BEEN OUR STANDARD PROCESS.
TO BRING CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD TO THE CIP ADVISORY BOARD IN THE PAST TO BRING, WHICH CAN CHANGE THAT IN THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS NOW, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, THIS CAN BE A CONVERSATION SOME OTHER TIME ABOUT WHY WE NEED TO CHANGE WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
IF THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR IT, FINE.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 10 Q, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF PAYMENT FOR THE FUNCTION SPACE LEASE, UH, SPACE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER AND TWO 50 IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000.
WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT WITH ONCE.
DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD? MOTION TO APPROVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER WATERSON I BE FIVE YES VOTES.
WE ARE NOW ON 10 T CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF LODGING, AIRFARE, MILEAGE, AND MEALS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND A PEER CITY VISIT TO CARMEL, INDIANA ON OCTOBER 27TH THROUGH 30TH 2026.
ESTIMATED COST PER PERSON OF $2,130.
MS. MURDOCH NICHOLS, YOU ASKED FOR THIS ONE TO BE PULLED FOR CON FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ANYONE ELSE IS WELCOME TO TO ADD ANYTHING, BUT I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE LAST MEETING.
IT DID KIND OF BECOME A DISCUSSION BUT I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THE HOW OF WHAT WE DO IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT WE DO.
AND NO ONE HAS TO EXPLAIN TO ME THE VALUE OF A SISTER OR PEER CITY SITE VISIT.
UM, I THINK THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DISCUSSION ITEM BEFORE AN ACTION ITEM.
AND THE DECISION SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED ALL OF CITY COUNCIL.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRIVY TO THE CONVERSATION AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE INPUT TO THE DECISION OF A PEER CITY.
UM, I I WOULD, YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.
I WOULD ALSO REMIND THIS WAS NOT A CITY COUNCIL DRIVEN PLANNED TRIP.
IT WAS NOT A CITY COUNCIL THAT INITIATED THE ARRANGEMENT.
IT WAS NOT A CITY COUNCIL THAT'S GONNA PAY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE TRIP.
IT'S A-E-E-D-A AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT SEEMED A LITTLE DIFFERENT AS TO WHY THIS WAS PICKED AS A PEER CITY.
SO THE, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET TO BE REIMBURSED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE, WE, AND ONE OTHER POINT, WE, WE COULDN'T RELEASE THAT LAST MEETING BECAUSE IT HAD NOT GONE THROUGH THE BOARD AT THE EEDA FOR APPROVAL AS IN TERMS OF THE, THE AMOUNT AND THE, AND THE REIMBURSEMENT TOTAL, BECAUSE IN THIS ITEM, IT DOESN'T SAY IT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM DOESN'T REFLECT THAT BECAUSE ED'S BOARD HADN'T VOTED ON IT YET? THEY HAVE NOW.
THEY HADN'T, THEY HAVE NOW AT OUR LAST MEETING.
I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IN THE, OKAY.
SO THE AMOUNT THE CITY WOULD PAY WOULD BE LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
MOST LIKELY BECAUSE OF ADA'S DECISION TO COVER SOME OF THAT TRAVEL COST.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED HERE AT PIERCE CITY.
WE COULD, WE COULD AT LEAST BEEN TOLD THAT, RIGHT? I'M SORRY.
SOMEONE COULD HAVE SAID TO ME, WE'RE GONNA SELECT
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CARMEL, INDIANA AS A PIERCE CITY, RIGHT? MS. MCDOWELL? YES, SIR.I MEAN, I, I MEAN I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO TALK WITH THEM, BUT I GUESS I'M ASKING, IT WAS AN EEDA DRIVEN ITEM, RIGHT? CORRECT.
I MEAN, ALL I'M ASKING IS IF IT'S AN E-E-D-E-E-D-A DRIVEN ITEM.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EEDA.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT OTHER THAN WHAT YOU TELL ME.
I COULD, WE HAD A CONVERSATION.
ORIGINALLY WE WEREN'T GONNA INVITE THE WHOLE COUNCIL.
AND THEN, AND THEN ONCE, JUST A MINUTE.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU SEND ME A GOLD INVITATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT AREN'T INVOLVED WITH EEDA DO HAVE A ROLE.
WE APPROPRIATE MONEY TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AT LEAST YOU COULD HAVE CASUALLY TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS.
WE SEE EACH OTHER AT COFFEE SHOPS.
SO THE LAST TIME THIS WAS CONTINUED, SO, UM, 'CAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER FRAME WANTED TO GO.
SO ARE, ARE YOU THREE GOING? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MURDOCH NICHOLS HAVE VOTED NO.
THE OTHER FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE VOTED YES.
[B. Presentation and Discussion of a Potential Oklahoma Natural Gas (ONG) Franchise Election and Consideration of Directing City Staff to Prepare Necessary Materials to Call a Special Election for Purposes of Establishing an ONG Franchise Agreement. (Citywide)]
NOW ON ITEM 11 B, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL OKLAHOMA NATURAL GAS FRANCHISE ELECTION AND CONSIDERATION OF DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO PREPARE NECESSARY MATERIALS TO CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE PURPOSES OF ESTABLISHING AN ONG FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
JACQUELINE, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
JACQUELINE PYLE, COMMUNITY RELATIONS MANAGER WITH OKLAHOMA NATURAL GAS, AS WELL AS DUSTIN FREDERICK, OUR MANAGING ATTORNEY.
DUSTIN'S GOING TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO, UM, WHAT THIS FRANCHISE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST GONNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF ARC, SOME COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE OUR LAST FRANCHISE, UM, ATTEMPT.
SO CURRENTLY AS OF TODAY, WE ARE SERVING 41,853 METERS IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
AND WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT GO THROUGH WITH US PROUDLY STANDING HERE SAYING, WE ARE A LONG STANDING COMMUNITY PARTNER IN THE CITY OF EDMOND WITH SUPPORTING YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AT UNCOMMON GROUND LARGE NONPROFITS LIKE EDMOND MOBILE MEALS, STEM GRANTS TO PUBLIC SCHOOL CLASSROOMS, AS WELL AS A SEATING FUNDER FOR THE OKLAHOMA, UM, EXCUSE ME, EDMUND MEMORIAL POLICE STATUE.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DUSTIN FREDERICK TO PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.
DUSTIN FREDERICK ON BEHALF OF OKLAHOMA NATURAL GAS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PRESENTATION, BUT I WAS JUST GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT OF FRANCHISE AND WHY WE'RE HERE AND DISCUSSING THIS NOW.
SO, UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A GROSS RECEIPTS ORDINANCE, WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS A GROSS RECEIPTS ORDINANCE WITH EDMOND.
UH, THERE IS CASE LAW THAT THE PROPER WAY IN OKLAHOMA TO ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THE PUBLIC WAYS IS THROUGH A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT'S VOTED ON BY THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY.
SO ABOUT A DECADE AGO, UH, WE STARTED, UH, REACHING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES, STARTING WITH SOME OF THE LARGER ONES THAT DID NOT HAVE A FRANCHISE TO SAY WE REALLY NEED TO GET PUT ON A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING, DOING THAT AND, UH, WE HAD APPROACHED EDMOND CITY COUNCIL VOTED ON A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
THIS WAS RIGHT NOT LONG AFTER COVID 20 20, 20 21,
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UH, THAT WENT TO THE RESIDENTS TO VOTE ON AND IT DID NOT PASS.UH, SO WE HAVE KEPT DISCUSSIONS GOING WITH THE CITY THAT AT SOME POINT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ANOTHER VOTE IF THE CITY SO CHOSE COUNCIL VOTED ON, AND WHAT THAT PARTICULAR, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO THE PRIOR FRANCHISE THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED, I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT WE COULD MAKE CHANGES TO THAT IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSE AND WE CAME TO AGREEMENT TO IT AND THEN PUT THAT OUT TO A VOTE.
IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SOME TIMES THAT YOU WANT TO FIND A, AN ELECTION THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT HAVE SOME OTHER ITEMS ON IT THAT COULD BE OF CONCERN.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE HISTORY AND WHY WE WOULD HAVE A FRANCHISE VERSUS A GROSS SEEDS QUESTIONS WHERE, WHERE'S THE, UH, THE BUDGET OR THE COST FOR THE ELECTION? WHERE WOULD THAT BE? SO OKLAHOMA NATURAL WOULD COVER THAT.
SO, UH, IT MAY BE A SITUATION WHERE IF YOU ALL GOT IT, WE WOULD REIMBURSE IT IF THOSE ELECTION COSTS GO TO YOU, AND THEN WE WILL RECOVER THAT.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THROUGH OUR RATES WE WOULD SEEK RECOVERY OF IT, BUT, UH, WE WOULD BE REIMBURSING THAT TO THE CITY, THE COST OF THAT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THIS GROSS RECEIPTS TAX.
AND IF WE SHIFT TO A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, WHAT'S THE NET EFFECT TO THE RATE PAYER? SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES.
SO IT COULD BE PLUS OR MINUS EITHER WAY.
SO CURRENTLY, UH, THE WAY GROSS RECEIPTS ORDINANCES WORK, THEY'RE CAPPED AT 2%.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE 2%, BUT YOU'RE CAPPED BY STATUTE THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A 2% MAX.
YOU ALL ARE AT 2% GROSS RECEIPTS.
THAT'S FOR THE MOST PART GONNA BE A ONE PAGE DOCUMENT THAT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT MUCH OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOU PAY US 2%.
UH, YOU MOVE TO A FRANCHISE, IT'S GONNA BE A 2025 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT A LOT OF IT REFERENCES HOW WE DEAL WITH YOU ALL TODAY, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY AN AGREEMENT IN WRITING.
UM, AND SO IT, IT HAS THE POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE RELOCATE OUR LINES, THE ONES THAT WOULD BE RELOCATED AT OUR COST IF THEY'RE IN THE PUBLIC WAYS.
IT ALSO PROVIDES INDEMNIFICATION, UH, PROVISIONS FOR THE CITY, UH, AUDIT RIGHTS TO THE CITY.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE, ARE STANDARD IN THERE.
AS FAR AS THE RATE ITSELF, UH, THERE'S NOT A 2% CAP, BUT OBVIOUSLY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVES, THE UTILITY GOES IN OUR BILLS.
SO WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO BE A LARGE AMOUNT.
'CAUSE IT INCREASES OUR BILLS.
UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO SERVE MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES.
UH, AND SO, UH, IT COULD IMPACT THE RATES FOR MANY OTHERS.
OUR AVERAGE FRANCHISE IS AROUND 3% FOR THE ONES WE HAVE.
AND SO, UH, THAT FRANCHISE THAT WENT UP IN 2021 TIMEFRAME, IT WAS GOING FROM THE 2% MAX ON THE GROSS RECEIPTS TO WHAT THE AVERAGE FRANCHISE AT 3%.
I WILL TELL YOU, I DO HAVE, UH, ONE FRANCHISE THAT'S AT 0%.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL VOTED ON AND APPROVED.
UM, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO OPERATE A CITY WITH ZERO REVENUE COMING IN.
BUT I DO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT VOTED IN A A ZERO FRANCHISE.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME THAT GO ABOVE UH, THREE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GREATLY ABOVE THREE.
BUT WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE, SO THE IMPACT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE IMPACT COULD BE DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY CHOOSES.
SO IF WE SAID 2%, THERE'D BE A ZERO NET IMPACT ON THE RATE PAYER, THERE WOULD BE A ZERO NET IMPACT.
IF IT, IF IT WAS A 2% FRANCHISE, I MEAN, YOU WOULD BE LEGALLY COMPLIANT WITH WHAT CASE LAW SUGGESTS.
AND THERE WOULD BE A ZERO NET IMPACT TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS.
I MEAN, TO ME, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANY TAX PEOPLE GET UP IN ARMS AND IF WE'RE LITERALLY SAYING WE'RE JUST SIMPLY SHIFTING WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING FROM A GROSS RECEIPTS TAX THAT WE'RE APPLYING AND JUST CALLING IT NOW A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, LITERALLY THERE'S ZERO CHANGE TO YOUR ONG BILL.
SO THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE, SO IF YOU'RE A, IF YOU'RE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF EDMOND, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR ONG BILL NOW IT SHOULD HAVE A LINE ITEM TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THAT'LL SAY, PROBABLY SAYS GROSS RECEIPTS TAX OR GROSS RECEIPTS.
SOMETHING IN ESSENCE, IF IT STAYS AT 2% FRANCHISE, THAT WORDING CHANGES TO FRANCHISE FEE OR FRANCHISE TAX.
AND THAT'LL BE THE DIFFERENCE, UH, THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE BILL.
AND THEN THAT'S A COLLECT REMIT SITUATION.
IT, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S JUST GETTING THIS, THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM ONE PERSPECTIVE, WE REALLY OUGHT TO HAVE, THERE SHOULD BE ONE.
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ELECTRICS HAVE THEM.AND SO I, I OVERSEE THE FRANCHISES WE HAVE CORPORATE WIDE, WHICH COVERS ALSO KANSAS AND TEXAS AND KANSAS AND TEXAS.
WE HAVE A FRANCHISE IN EVERY, EVERY COMMUNITY.
IT BENEFITS BOTH PARTIES, UH, QUITE HONESTLY.
I MEAN IT DETAILS THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES WE BOTH HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, WE SPENT SOME TIME ON THE FIN IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS RECENTLY.
AND UM, I THINK OUR CONCLUSION THERE WAS THAT IN GENERAL OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS ARE INCONSISTENT, UH, INCONSISTENTLY DOCUMENTED, INCON INCONSISTENTLY APPLIED AND INCONSISTENTLY ENFORCED.
SO, UH, NOT GREAT, BUT IT FALLS BETWEEN SOME DEPARTMENTS.
BUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WHAT THE ACTION THAT WE GAVE IN FINANCE COMMITTEE WAS FOR STAFF TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK ACROSS ALL OF 'EM AND TRY TO IMPLEMENT WITH, UM, CLERK AND, AND CITY ATTORNEY LIKE IN FINANCE, IMPLEMENT, UM, A STRUCTURE THAT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF 'EM.
SO I THINK THIS IS MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION.
I AGREE WITH WHERE IT'S HEADED.
I WOULD, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE WE HAVE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REVIEW IN THE CONTEXT OF THE OTHER ONES.
AND, UM, JUST THINK, I MEAN IF WE'RE GONNA DO OTHERS AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO A VOTE, I'D LIKE TO DO 'EM AS A PACKAGE MAYBE SO THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER ONES.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO MR. MOORE'S COMMENTS EARLIER, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A HELPFUL THING TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF US THAT YOU GUYS STUDIED IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
'CAUSE I MEAN, I, IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY RELEVANT ABOUT WHAT YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT FRANCHISE TAXES AND SO FORTH AND I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE KNOWN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SCHWAB DOES.
I MEAN, WE
YEAH, IT'S TOUGH TO, I WOULD AGREE.
WE DON'T TALK OUTSIDE THIS BOARD JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
SO IT'S HARD TO STAY IN SYNC ON EVERYTHING WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON.
SO ANYWAY, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO RUN IT BACK.
I, I MEAN IF THERE'S NO ACTION HERE YEAH, IF WE, IF WE SENT THIS TO FINANCE, THEY COULD COMPARE IT AGAINST THE OTHER AGREEMENTS.
WE HAVE TO SEE IF WE'RE CONSISTENT AND THEN MAKING SURE THIS WOULD THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE WHICH MOVES US IN, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
MAYBE A PART OF THIS IS, IS WHEN FINANCE GOES THROUGH AND LOOKS AT THIS COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE OTHERS, THAT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THE AMOUNT SHOULD BE.
BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE AT ONE AND A HALF PERCENT, I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER, I MEAN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MONTHS AGO.
UM, BUT IF THEY ARE LOWER AND WE'RE STANDARDIZING IT, OH, WOULDN'T THAT BE A NICE THING TO TELL OUR CITIZENS THAT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS TO LINE ALL THIS UP, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.
IF YOU'LL AGREE IT AGREE TO IT, I THINK MORE REALISTICALLY, PROBABLY 2% IS PROBABLY WHERE IT'S GONNA LAND AND IT'S NET ZERO.
BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE IT IS LET FINANCE COMPARE IT TO THE OTHERS AND THEN COME BACK TO A, WITH A REPORT TO US ON WHERE EVERYBODY SITS.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE SHOOTING IN THE DARK SITTING UP HERE TONIGHT SAYING, YEAH, DO IT AT 2% 'CAUSE IT'S NET ZERO.
UH, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DOING ANY OF US ANY GOOD.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A BALLOT ISSUE LIKE THIS.
AND I WILL JUST SAY FROM A HISTORICAL STANDPOINT THAT YOU ALL HAVE, MAY BE AWARE OF THIS, BUT IT WAS LIKE THE WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION, THERE WAS, UH, I'LL JUST SAY SOME MISINFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH MAY BE SHOCKING TO MANY OF US AND NOT THE ABILITY TO, UH, TO INFORM BETTER SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE ABOUT WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT WAS DOING.
AND SO BECAUSE OF THIS VOTE, JUST INTERNALLY, US AS A COMPANY OF HAVE MADE EFFORTS TO DO MORE TO WHERE WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE MEDIA OUTLETS AND SOCIAL MEDIA SITES TO WHERE WE COULD AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO, TO STEER THINGS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
LOOK LIKE ONLY 1700 PEOPLE VOTED.
SO
I WILL JUST SAY I, I DON'T THINK A FRANCHISE IS A VERY INTERESTING ITEM, SIR, SPEAKING TO THAT MICROPHONE JUST A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T THINK THAT FRANCHISES ARE PROBABLY A PARTICULARLY INTERESTING ITEM THAT PEOPLE COME OUT TO VOTE ON AND THERE'S TYPICALLY NOT HIGH VOTER TURNOUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
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SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET IT ON THE, THE FRANCHISE ON THE, UH, FINANCE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH? YEP.AND THEN WE WILL REVIEW IT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET IT BACK HERE FOR OUR SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
WELL, I DON'T, I MEAN IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHERE THE LARGER FRANCHISE DISCUSSION IS WITH WELL, I'M JUST TIMELINE I'M JUST SAYING, COMES BACK FOR US TO HAVE A REPORT BACK FROM FINANCE ON WHERE WE SIT AND THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME BACK AS MANY TIMES AS Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS OR THINGS COME OUTTA THAT, JUST LET US KNOW AND IT'LL BE MYSELF OR JACQUELINE.
WE CAN COME BACK AND ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS.
WE WERE AT SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETINGS SO WE COULD MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
ANY COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? QUESTIONS? NO ACTION ON THIS ONE.
[C. Discussion and Consideration of the Second Amended and Restated Development and Financing Assistance Agreement with 103 Broadway, LLC and 18 W Hurd, to Induce and Support a Mixed-Use Development at the Northwest Corner of Broadway and Hurd in Downtown Edmond to Provide for Assistance in Development Financing to 103 Broadway, LLC and 18 W Hurd. (Ward 1)]
ITEM 11 C IS DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF THE SECOND AMENDED RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCING ASSISTANT AGREEMENT WITH 1 0 3 BROADWAY, LLC AT 18 WEST HERD TO INDUCE IN SUPPORT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BROADWAY AND HERD IN DOWNTOWN EDMOND.THIS IS ONE WE'VE HEARD IN PUBLIC WORKS.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REHASH THIS, DO WE? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[12. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]
WHICH IS RECESS.THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
RECONVENE THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
WE'RE BACK IN EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.
[13. Edmond Public Works Authority Executive Sessions and Action Items:]
ITEM 13 IS EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS OF THE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ACTION ITEMS. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS PENDING CLAIM OR ACTION REGARDING THE GROUND LEASE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.SUBORDINATED LOAN AND SECURITY AGREEMENT.
PROMISSORY NOTES RELATED TO THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER PROJECT AS AUTHORIZED PURSUANT TO 25 OKLAHOMA STATUTE, SECTION 3 0 7 B FOUR.
BECAUSE DISCLOSURE WOULD SERIOUSLY IMPAIR THE ABILITY OF THE PUBLIC BODY TO PROCESS THE CLAIM OR CONDUCT PENDING INVESTIGATION, LITIGATION AND PROCEEDING TO END THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
MOTION TO APPROVE 13 A I HAVE A MOTION.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, LEAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[14. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMUND CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO MOVE.DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING
[15. City Council Executive Sessions and Action Items:]
NOW ON ITEM 15 AND I WOULD ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS HERE.JUDGE, CAN I JUST SAY TO A LATER DATE? SO MOVED.
I GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[16. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]
ON ITEM NUMBER 16.COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY TONIGHT? ARCADIA ROWING FESTIVALS THIS WEEKEND.
EVERYBODY COME OUT SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
IT'S AT, AT THE EDMOND PARK, AT THE EVAN PARK, WHICH IS AT MIDWEST MIDDLE 12.
NO ONE ELSE WENT TO THE ROWING CLINICS.
SO I GUESS I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO GO OUT AND LEARN HOW TO ROW
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SURE WAY.I THINK KATIE SHOULD TEACH A COURSE.
THE PERUVIAN NATIONAL TEAM WILL BE HERE COMPETING AS WELL AS MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF THE US NATIONAL TEAM.
WELL, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU THIS WEEKEND.
ANYBODY ELSE? MAYOR, CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING REALLY QUICKLY? YOU MAY.
I WANTED THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT, UH, PARTICULAR DWIGHT AND REYNA HAD TO WORK VERY HARD TO PULL THE, UH, THE WORKSHOP OFF TODAY AND TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO STREAM IT.
AND SO THEY PUT IN, UH, PUT IN ALLOW HOURS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I JUST THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF EMAILS AND CALLS REGARDING THE YMCA AND THE MITCH PARK SWIMMING POOL.
WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? UM, THE SHORT ANSWER IS THAT THE YMCA HAS ENCOUNTERED, UH, MORE MECHANICAL DIFFICULTIES AND, UM, THE, UH, THE PLAN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE THOSE ROOFTOP UNITS WOULD BE REPLACED, THAT PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO WORK.
THEY'RE OUT TRYING TO GET SOME OF THEIR CURRENT ROOFTOP UNITS, UM, TO WORK.
BUT THEY, ON SATURDAY COMPLETED THE INSTALLATION OF A, OF A LARGER COOLING TOWER.
WE HAD PREVIOUSLY RENTED ONE, UH, THAT WAS DETERMINED TO BE, UH, TOO SMALL.
THEY PUT IN THE INS, THEY INSTALLED A LARGER COOLER TOWER OR COOLING TOWER.
AND THE HOPE THAT THAT IS, THAT WHEN THAT IS FUNCTIONAL, UH, COMBINED WITH THE ROOFTOP UNITS AND WHAT THEY CALL PDU, THEY'RE HUMID DEHUMIDIFICATION UNITS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFECT, UH, UH, REASONABLE, UH, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE ON THE INSIDE.
THEY HOPE TO RESUME SWIM TEAM PRACTICES IN SEPTEMBER AND, UH, RESUME MEETS IN NOVEMBER.
AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, THEY SHOULD HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THE, UH, THE LIMITATIONS OR THE CAPABILITIES.
MAYBE A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT, OF THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S A LONG WAY, FORGIVE ME OF SAYING, UH, STILL VERY MUCH A WORK IN PROGRESS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANKS TO DWIGHT AND RENO.
WE KIND OF BLEW PAST THAT, BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE WORK AND APPRECIATE IT.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.