* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OH YEAH. [00:00:03] GOOD EVENING FOLKS. [1. Call to Order of the Edmond Planning Commission.] WE WILL COMMENCE THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, AND WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. ALL RIGHT, FOLLOWING THE AGENDA, WE WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION [A. Consideration of Approval of Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes: August 18, 2026.] OR ANY AMENDMENTS OR MODIFICATIONS NEEDED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 18TH, 2026. DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS AT THIS TIME? IF NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. AND MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER TWO B WILL BE MOVED AND WILL BE HEARD, UM, CONCURRENT WITH ITEM FOUR OR FIVE. I, I'M SORRY, YEAH, FOUR. I SO TAKE THAT ONE OFF. AND [C. Case No. PR26-00014; Consideration of Approval of a Final Plat for The Grove at Coffee Creek, located south of Coffee Creek Road, west of Boulevard Avenue. (Double Eagle Development; Ward 1)] MOVING ON THE AGENDA TO ITEM NUMBER TWO C, THIS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WISH TO HEAR THIS ONE PULLED OR HEARD THIS? ANY MORE DETAIL ON THIS ONE? IF NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A PHOTO FIVE ZERO. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER OF 28. MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA ITEM. LOOKING AT ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. SO LOOKING AT AGENDA ITEM FOUR [1. Case No. U26-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Edmond Massage and Body Contouring, located at 3409 S Broadway, Suite 612. (Spinale; Ward 3)  ] OR YEAH, 4 1 4 A, ONE G, SORRY. CASE NUMBER U 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR EDMUND MASSAGE AND BODY CONTOURING LOCATED AT 34 0 9 SOUTH BROADWAY. SEAT 6 1 2. IS THE APPLICANT, UH, HERE? YES. THANK YOU. AND MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES, ACTUALLY, UH, THERE ARE FIVE SPECIFIC USE PERMITS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED. THESE ARE ALL FOR EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE COME INTO COLI WORKING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH RECENTLY APPROVED SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS. EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS IS DEMONSTRATED SUCH COMPLIANT REGARDING THERAPIST LICENSE AND FACADES. AT YOUR REQUEST, WE CAN SHOW A MAP OF ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS AND IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RELEVANT DETAILS IN THE PACKET, WE'LL VERIFY THE APPLICANT ARE PRESENT. REQUEST PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED. EACH CASE REQUIRES ITS OWN MOTION AND VOTE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THERE WILL BE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2026. THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S PRESENTATION OR LET IT STAND? I DUNNO WHICH ONE. THANK YOU. DO YOU PHOTOS? THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS RIGHT NOW OR ANY, I'M SORRY, ANY UH, COMMENTS OR FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS TIME ON THAT? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, IS THIS THE ONE I GOT THE EMAIL ABOUT? OKAY. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES. CAN, UH, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT YOUR OPERA OPERATING HOURS TO BE AND THE NUMBER OF THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES? UM, I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS, SO IT'S JUST ME. CURRENTLY I WORK, UH, LET'S SEE, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY FROM 10 TO SIX. OKAY. I TAKE IN ABOUT FIVE TO SIX CLIENTS A DAY. OKAY. UM, WOULD YOU, UH, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UH, CAN WE, IS IT OKAY IF WE MAKE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THIS BASED ON WHAT YOU STATED THE OPERATING HOURS TO BE? 10 TO SIX. OKAY. WILL YOU, ARE YOU OKAY IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TO APPROVE THAT WITH THOSE HOURS? YES. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, UM, GRANT THIS WITH THE, UH, SUBJECT TO THE HOURS THAT WERE JUST STATED. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE CONTINGENT ON THE HOURS BEING FROM 10 TO SIX ON TUESDAY, THURSDAY, AND FRIDAY. IS THAT WHAT YOU, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, CURRENTLY I WORK TUESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY BETWEEN 10 AND SIX. I GET THERE A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO SET UP, BUT MY HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 10 TO SIX. OKAY. THAT IS THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE TABLE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? QUICK QUESTION. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE UPCOMING, I'M GOING ON VACATION, SO MY HOUR, MY DAYS ARE SWITCHING A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE MY CLIENTS, SO I'LL BE WORKING ON MONDAY, THIS UPCOMING MONDAY. IS THAT GONNA BE A PROBLEM UNDER THAT MOTION? IT WOULD BE LIMITED THOSE HOURS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE WERE KIND OF, I, THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION LED IS MY GUESS. OKAY. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, YOU KNOW, CHIP, DO YOU WANNA RESTATE YOUR MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY IT FURTHER OR HOW DO YOU WANT TO, [00:05:01] UM, IF YOU CAN JUST STATE, UH, YOUR HOURS. UH, I WOULD SAY AVERAGE ON, ON AN AVERAGE BASIS, MOST LIKELY THE, YOU WOULD BE OPEN THE HOURS THAT YOU SAID, YEAH, 10 TO SIX. I DON'T, I TRY NOT TO WORK LATER THAN SIX O'CLOCK AND AGAIN IN LIKE AT NINE 30 TO SET UP. OTHERWISE BY THAT, UH, IF YOU WERE ON VACATION, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD VARY, UH, VERY LITTLE DURING THE YEAR. MAY I RECOMMEND MAYBE 10 TO, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE GENERAL, A LITTLE MORE GENERAL. MAYBE A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? YEAH, OR EVEN, WELL, 10 TO SIX, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK WOULD BE FINE. OKAY. BUT MAYBE IT'S MORE LIKE NINE TO EIGHT OR SOMETHING IN THOSE AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT PAST. THAT'D BE GREAT. I MEAN, I THINK 10 TO SIX SEEMS PRETTY LIMITED TO THREE DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S BETTER. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROPOSE WOULD BE MY QUESTION? I THINK, UM, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WOULD BE GOOD. I DO NOT WORK WEEKENDS, SO THAT WOULD BE FINE FOR ME. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE, DID YOU RECOMMEND NINE TO EIGHT? SURE. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. NINE, NINE TO EIGHT IS FINE. IS THAT FINE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER WINTER? YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA PROPOSE? THAT IS FINE. OKAY. SO YOU WANNA RESTATE YOUR MOTION, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TO APPROVE THIS, UM, APPLICATION, UH, SUBJECT TO THE FACT THAT, UM, THE HOURS WERE ONLY BE AVAILABLE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM NINE TO EIGHT. OKAY. 9:00 AM TO 8:00 PM THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND THAT IS APPROVED WITH A MO OR A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. UM, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM NINE TO EIGHT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER OF 28TH. THANK YOU. MOVING ON [2. Case No. U26-00004; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Vitality Massage and Shiatsu, located at 3509 S Broadway, Suite 611. (Maglio; Ward 3)] TO, UH, FOUR A NUMBER TWO, CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 4 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE VITALITY MASSAGE AND SHIATSU LOCATED AT 35 0 9 SOUTH BROADWAY. MR. BRYAN, OR IS APPLICANT? IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU. PRESENT. DO YOU NEED TO PRESENT EACH ONE OF THESE SEPARATE? UH, NO, THIS THE, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE, ALL OF THESE, ALL THESE ARE THE SAME. ALL THESE ARE THE SAME. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON. OR THIS IS B UH, CASE NUMBER, UH, A TWO. ANY PUBLIC HEARING OR CONSIDERATION ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM CITY COU OR FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? IF NOT, LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION SECOND. AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. THAT ONE IS APPROVED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 28TH. MOVING DOWN THE AGENDA TO FOUR [3. Case No. U26-00012; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Q&M Massage, located at 104 E 15th St. (Antinoro; Ward 3)] A THREE. CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 2 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE Q AND M MASSAGE LOCATED AT 1 0 4 EAST 15TH STREET IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT. THANK YOU. AND HEARING FROM MR. BRIAN ALREADY WITH NO REASON TO PRESENT. SO ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT OF CITY? I MEAN, I'M SORRY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, SEEING NONE. MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYBODY WISHED IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON AGENDA ITEM FOUR A OR FOUR. A FOUR. MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. FOUR. A THREE. OKAY, BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO, THAT ONE IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL. MEETING OF [4. Case No. U26-00014; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Adu Massage and Spa, located at 822 W Edmond Road, Suite G. (Chen; Ward 3)  ] SEPTEMBER 28TH LIVING DOWN THE AGENDA. CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH ZERO FOUR PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE ADU MASSAGE AND SPA LOCATED 8 22 WEST EDMOND IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT. THANK YOU. UH, MOVING ON TO QUESTIONS OF CITY. I MEAN, I'M SORRY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT. SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON 9 28. MOVING DOWN THE AGENDA, CASE NUMBER U2 [5. Case No. U26-000015; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Massage by Nish, located at 3409 S Broadway, Suite 616. (Poe; Ward 3)] SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 5 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BY MASSAGE BY NISH LOCATED AT 34 0 9 SOUTH BROADWAY, SUITE 6 1 6. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? I'M HERE TO REPRESENT HER. OKAY. UM, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR CITY STAFF FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM [00:10:01] PLEASE COME UP. STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS STEVEN JONES. UM, WE'RE HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH, BEHALF OF NISH. UH, ALSO, UM, WITH THE MOTION THAT'S GOING FORWARD THAT YOU'RE CONTINUING WITH THESE, IS THAT UNDER THE SAME HOURS AS THE ONE STIPULATED FOR THE ITEM ONE? NO, THIS WOULD JUST BE A PUBLIC. THERE'S THE PERMIT, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT MOVES ON TO IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON 9 28. OKAY, THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT, MOVING [B. Case No. DD26-00010; Consideration of Approval for a Lot Split for the SE Corner of Hurd and Story, to the east of the Barnett Fields Splash Pad. (Oklahome; Ward 1)] DOWN THE AGENDA. UH, NUMBER FOUR B, CASE NUMBER DD 2 6 0 0 0 1 0. CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A LOT SPLIT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HERD AND STORY AT THE EAST OR TO THE EAST OF THE BARNETT SPLASH FIELD OR FIELDS, SORRY. SPLASH PAD IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT. THANK YOU SIR. MR. BRIAN, WE PRESENT? YES. THANK YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS LOT SPLIT IS APPROXIMATELY 7,000 SQUARE FEET. THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HERD AND STORY. THE APPLICATION CREATES TWO LOTS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN MAY OF 2022. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR, OR I'M SORRY, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT OF THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE. MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PROP OR THIS PROJECT IN THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON 9 28. MOVING DOWN [C. Case No. ES26-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of an Easement Closing on the property located at 1533 Mason Lane. (Mike Brandt; Ward 2)] THE AGENDA TO FOUR C. CASE NUMBER ES TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF AN EASEMENT CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 5 3 3 MASON LANE IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CLOSE A FIVE FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT ALONG THEIR NORTHWEST PROPERTY LINE. THERE ARE NO CITY OF EDMOND FACILITIES OR UTILITIES IN THIS EASEMENT. NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM FRANCHISE UTILITIES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT OF THE COMMISSIONERS SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENTS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON 9 28. MOVING DOWN THE AGENDA [D. Case No. SP24-00009; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Site Plan Extension for Monarch at Honeyfield, located east of Covell and Kelly. (Johnson & Associates; Ward 1)] TO FOUR D. CASE NUMBER SP 24 DASH 0 0 0 0 9 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A SITE PLAN EXTENSION FOR MONARCH AT HONEY FIELD LOCATED EAST OF KE OF COBELL. AND KELLY IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT. THANK YOU MR. BRIAN. WE PRESENT? YES, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN EXTENSION OF A SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF 2025. NO CHANGES TO THE APPROVED SITE PLAN HAVE BEEN REQUIRED OR REQUESTED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. HELLO, JESSICA LLOYD WITH JOHNSON ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. ONE HE SHERIDAN. I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE, UH, ADD TO THAT PRESENTATION THAT BECAUSE OF ONGOING LITIGATION THAT'S WHY WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR ALL OF THAT TO BE WRAPPED UP, UH, BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH BUILDING PERMITS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE. UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND, SECOND, AND A SECOND [00:15:01] BY VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND IS DONE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO [E. Case No. SP25-00018; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Site Plan for Industrial Complex on the north side of W 33rd Street between Technology and Teakwood. (Nafa Engineering; Ward 3)] FOUR E CASE NUMBER S SP 2 5 1 8 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL FOR A SITE PLAN FOR THE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST 33RD STREET BETWEEN TECHNOLOGY AND TEAKWOOD. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IS THE APPLICANT HERE WE CAN GO OR YOU CAN CONTINUE. ALRIGHT, MR. BRYAN, WILL WE GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THIS? SURE. UM, SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS CASE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES. THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 33RD EAST OF TEAKWOOD. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, TWO BUILDINGS APPROXIMATELY 12,000 SQUARE FEET. EACH ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORING LOT PROJECT WILL CONNECT TO EDMOND UTILITIES. NO VARIANCES TO SITE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE REQUESTED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. BRYANT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE CITY STAFF? I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION IN THE PAST ABOUT THE EXTERIOR VIEW OF THIS. YOU KNOW, THE ONES RIGHT NEXT TO IT HAD COME UP AND WE A CONVERSATION PIECE. I ASSUME THIS IS FULLY COMPLIANT WITH ALL THE EXTERIOR STANDARDS, THE MASONRY STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT AREA. YES, THAT ASSUMPTION WOULD BE CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, LOOKING FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. I'M SORRY, MY NAME'S DAN O'NEILL. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF INDIAN NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE. WHAT KIND OF RE ZONING IS RIGHT NEXT ON THE WEST SIDE OR THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT PROJECT? DID YOU SAY ZONING? IT WAS ZONING OR BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE OKAY. I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA. OKAY. IS THAT ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE MORE? YEAH, YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL THERE. OKAY. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NOT, BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT IS. THERE ARE SMALL LOTS. YEP. THANK YOU. UH, CAN I ANSWER THAT? I I THINK IT'S, UH, LIKE, UH, OFFICE. YEAH, INDUSTRIAL. THERE'S A DENTAL RIGHT THERE. DENTAL GARDEN OFFICE BUILDING. YEAH. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NONE? PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION. ANY SECOND ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND IS DONE HERE TONIGHT. MOVING ON DOWN THE AGENDA TO [F. Case No. SP26-00004; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Site Plan for Oklahoma Christian Academy Portables, located 1101 East 9th Street. (Oklahoma Christian Academy; Ward 1)  ] FOUR F CASE NUMBER S SP TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 4 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL FOR A SITE. PLAN FOR THE OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. PORTABLES LOCATED AT 1101 EAST NINTH STREET. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THANK YOU MR. BRIAN. WE PRESENT? YES. THANK YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS CASE IS APPROXIMATELY 8.3 ACRES. THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NINTH STREET, EAST OF PINE OAK. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 6,300 SQUARE FEET. ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE EXISTING SIGNALIZE DRIVE ENTRANCE AND PROJECT WILL CONNECT TO EDMOND UTILITIES. NO VARIANCES TO SITE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE REQUESTED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION OF CITY STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, I, THE APPLICATION INCLUDED A PORTABLE, WHICH GIVES ME THE IDEA OF A MODULAR. WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE APPEARANCE OF, OF THESE BUILDINGS AND HOW LONG WILL THEY BE THERE? GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US. SURE. I, I'M MIKE PATTERSON ARCHITECT AT AMP STUDIO. UM, SO THE MARGINAL BUILDINGS WILL BE, UH, THE PRE-FINISHED METAL ON THE EXTERIOR, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE BRICK IMPROVEMENTS TO INCREASE THE, THE LOOK OF THE BUILDINGS. AND AS FAR AS TIME IT'S UNKNOWN. THEY'LL, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'LL BE THERE. OKAY. SO THEY'RE MORE PERMANENT THAN MODULAR? PORTABLE. YOU CAN'T MOVE THEM. THEY CAN'T BE MOVED. WE JUST KNOW HOW LONG THEY'LL BE THERE. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? [00:20:01] SEEING NONE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? IF SO, GO AHEAD AND COME UP. STATE YOUR NAME AND A AND JUST A REMINDER TO ADDRESS ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME ONCE YOU'VE ASKED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET YOU ANSWERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M, I'M EDWARD HOLMES. UH, MY PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE SITE. UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING. UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, LIGHTING ISSUE WITH THE TWO PORTABLES JUST TO THE NORTH, UM, THAT GLARE INTO THE BACKYARDS. UM, AND THEN I'M WONDERING, UH, UH, IT SHOWS A FENCE ON THE, ON THE SITE PLAN THAT GOES, UM, IT, IT, IT EXTENDS THROUGH THE, THE EASEMENT. THERE'S AN EASEMENT BEHIND ALL THE PROPERTIES ALONG THERE. UM, AND IT SHOWS A FENCE GOING TO MY FENCE. UH, SO I'M WONDERING HOW THE EASEMENT WILL BE ACCESSED, UH, ALONG THE, THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THERE. AND THEN, UH, THERE'S A SEWER LINE THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY INTEND TO GO INTO MY BACKYARD TO DIG UP THE SEWER. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM, AND THEN, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT A ZC IS ON THE, ON THE LANDSCAPE PLANT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S A PLANT OR LIGHTING. AND UH, YOU KNOW, MY MAIN CONCERN PROBABLY MOVE WOULD BE THE LIGHTING. UH, THAT WOULD BE ON ALL NIGHT. SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS HAVE LIGHTING ALL NIGHT AND THEY GLARE, UM, STRAIGHT OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT LIKE HIDDEN DOWNLIGHTS. SO THOSE I WOULD LIKE, WOULD LIKE THEM TO, UH, BE THESE ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED. THE LIGHTING, WHAT'S A-Z-T-A-Z-C? UH, THE FENCE, THE EASEMENT, UH, THE SEWER. LAST THING. THERE IS A, I THINK IT'S CALLED A RUSSIAN ELM. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, IT'S A LARGE TREE RIGHT AT THE, UH, THE, THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT TO THE WEST OF WHERE THE SITE AND THE BUILDING WILL BE. AND THERE'S A LARGE TREE THERE AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING THAT YOU'RE GONNA REMOVE THREE, UH, POST OAKS THAT ARE EAST OF THE BUILDING. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY DISPOSITION OF THE EXISTING LARGE ELM THAT'S THERE. IT'S ABOUT A 30 40 FOOT TREE. OKAY. MAKE SENSE? YEP. I THINK I GOT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE, PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST COMING UP? JUST LET US KNOW YOUR NAME. HI, I'M ABBY CHES AND I TOO ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHTING. WE LIVE ON PINE OAK DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CURRENT PORTABLES THAT ARE THERE THAT APPEAR IN THIS, THIS TO BE SMALLER. BUT THOSE ARE SURROUNDED, THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE LIGHTS ON THEM THAT FACE OUT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING TOWARD THE HOUSES AND THEY'RE ON ALL NIGHT LONG. AND THERE USED TO BE A GIANT TREE THAT KIND OF BLOCKED ABOUT HALF OF THAT LIGHT THAT WHEN THEY REDID THEIR UM, PLAYGROUND IN THE SPRING, THEY CUT THAT TREE DOWN. SO NOW WE HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS WE DID BEFORE. UM, AND IF THEY ADD A BIGGER BUILDING IN THAT AREA, I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH AN INCREASE OF LIGHT THAT IS NOT LIGHTING THEIR BUILDING. IT'S LIGHTING OUR HOUSES AND SCHOOLS BEHIND IT. LIKE WILL ROGERS, WE HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF WILL ROGERS AS WELL. THEIR LIGHTING IS DOWN, IT LIGHTS THE BUILDING AND IT GOES DOWN INSTEAD OF LIGHTING THE HOUSES ON PINE OAK. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. WILL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED? COME ON UP. YEP. WILL YOU GET TO ANSWER? YOU'VE CLOSED IT. , UH, WILL BLANCHARD ON THE HEADMASTER OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. I JUST WANNA THANK OUR NEIGHBORS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. UH, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. UH, WE WILL INVESTIGATE THE LIGHTING, NOT JUST ON THIS PORTABLE, BUT ON THE OTHER ONES TOO. AND ADDRESS THESE QUESTIONS ON THE FENCE THAT GOES THROUGH THE EASEMENT. THAT'S LARGELY PROBABLY A MISPRINT, SO WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AND CHECK IT. THERE IS NOT A FENCE THAT WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE EASEMENT, BUT WE'LL CHECK THAT. SO, AND WE'LL LOOK INTO EVERYTHING ELSE AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, REAL QUICK, WILL MM-HMM . UM, I THINK THE OTHER COUPLE OF THINGS I ASKED WAS THEY, THERE WAS ASKED WAS THE RUSSIAN ELM OR LARGE ELM TREE, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? YEAH, MIKE, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? NO. COME ON THAT MIKE. THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, A, UH, A ZC ON THE YEAH. AND THAT, THAT IS PLANT LIFE THAT IS UH, SHOULD BE ON THE SCHEDULE. YEAH, IT'S A SCHEDULE FOR ONE OF THE PLANTS. IT'S NOT LIGHTS. MIKE, I'LL LET YOU ADDRESS. SURE. AND THE SEWER LINE, IT'LL, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE THE SEWER IS, BUT, WE'LL, IT'LL HAVE TO BE TAPPED INTO. WELL I ASSUME IT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE THOUGH, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. WE WON'T, THE SEWER LINE MAY SPEAK THE SEWER LINE. HANG ON ONE SECOND. UM, NOT TO BE RUDE, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE YOU [00:25:01] ASKING TWICE. SO , UM, THE REAL RULE IS, IS ONCE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. THIS ISN'T A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION. IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION AND I HAVE TO ANSWER WHERE HE HAS TO ANSWER. UM, SO SEWER LINE, IF YOU COULD DO YOUR BEST TO EXPLAIN AT THE MOMENT. YEAH, I MEAN I'D BE GREAT. I ASSUME IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE FENCE LINE AND SO, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IT HAS TO BE, THAT'S USUALLY CITY CODE, BUT, AND IT SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FROM, IF YOU WOULD MAKE SURE AFTERWARDS, MAYBE JUST DISCUSS WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR THERE. OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'D BE GREAT PROBLEM. UH, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS? I THINK THAT WAS EVERYTHING. OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, UH, WILL YOU GUYS MAKE SURE YOU GUYS CONNECT NUMBERS? SURE. TO GET YOU GOOD NUMBERS SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT LIGHTING THING. SO I REALLY, I APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? IF NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, MAKE A MOTION. I SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND IS FINISHED HERE TONIGHT. MOVING ON DOWN THE [G. Case No. Z26-00016; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Zoning Map Amendment from “G-A” General Agricultural to “E-1” Retail General Commercial for the property located on the east side of Sooner Road, north of East 2nd Street. (Marathon Rentals, LLC; Ward 2)  ] AGENDA TO ITEM NUMBER 4G CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 16 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO E ONE RETAIL GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SUNA ROAD NORTH OF EAST SECOND STREET IS THE APPLICANT HERE. THANK YOU MR. BRIAN. WILL WE PRESENT? YES. THANK YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES. THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOONER NORTH OF SECOND NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH AND EAST ARE UNDEVELOPED. I 35 RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED FOR E ONE COMMERCIAL USES AND IS AND IS DEVELOPED AS AN OFFICE TO THE WEST ACROSS SOONER IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR BY RIGHT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES. THE ADMIN PLAN CATEGORIZES THIS AREA AS I 35 AND THE REQUESTED DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT UH, WISH TO STATE MORE OR USE THIS STAND ON THE MR. BRYANT'S PRESENTATION? WELL, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE HIS PRESENTATION. MY NAME'S TODD MCKENNA. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND THE ONLY REASON I WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE THINGS IS I HAD THREE NEIGHBORS, UH, CALL ME FIRST TIME IN 25 YEARS. ANYBODY'S CALLED ME OFF OF MY ZONING SIGN . SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, AND WHAT I TOLD THEM, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SAY HERE TONIGHT, IS THIS WAS A REQUEST BY OUR CLIENT TO ENTITLE THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. I SENT THEM SOME VERY PRELIMINARY SKETCHES OF WHAT COULD GO THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY THAT TWO AND A HALF ACRES IS IN TOTAL. AND SO PARKING WILL DICTATE WHAT'LL BE THERE. UH, I TOLD A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT OUR PROPERTY LINE ENDS AT THE SOUTH END OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AND YOU'LL SEE THE ACCESS POINT WILL BE ON SOONER. UH, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DENTAL OFFICE AND THEN A REGULAR COMMERCIAL OFFICE TO THE SOUTH OF US. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET IN LINE WITH THE, UH, EDMOND COMP PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. SO THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THE NEIGHBORS AND I WANTED TO STATE THAT PUBLICLY HERE TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF CITY STAFF? UH, JUST SO WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE OFFICES. YEAH, IT HAS A CHANCE TO BE RETAIL, UH, 'CAUSE OF E ONE. AND SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE, I'LL JUST PUT ALL MY CARDS ON THE TABLE. WE CONTINUALLY HEAR FROM THIS HORSESHOE AT LEAST THE PEOPLE THAT APPOINTED YOU. THEY'RE TIRED OF PUDS, , WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF PUDS. UH, AND SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THE E ONE IS THE ZONING THAT'S APPROPRIATE WITH THE COMP PLAN. SO IT COULD BE OFFICE, IT COULD BE RETAIL, COULD NOT BE E TWO E OPEN DISPLAY, BUT IT COULD BE RETAIL. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE LOOKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? COME ON UP. STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS MOHAMED CHOKER. UM, I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET OR THE PROPERTY IS EXACTLY BEHIND MY HOUSE. UM, IT HAS SOME CONCERNS ON THE, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEING BUILT YET, BUT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT LIGHTING, WHERE THE HVAC SYSTEM'S GONNA BE. IF, IF IT IS A RETAIL BUSINESS, UM, HOW THE SEWAGE SYSTEM IS GONNA AFFECT OUR SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE. NOW, THERE'S GONNA BE ANY BACKUP TRAFFIC 'CAUSE IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD. SO I KIND OF HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AND UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T AFFECT MY, MY, MY WINDOWS WHERE I SLEEP. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I HEAR MOTORCYCLES GOING AT NIGHT, SEMI TRUCKS. UM, KINDA I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT LOADING AND UNLOADING HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. CONSTRUCTION, WHEN THEY'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION, THE DUST, HOW, HOW THAT'S GONNA BE CONTAINED. OKAY. [00:30:02] IS THAT EVERY, IS THAT ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? MY, YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS. ANY OTHER, ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST SEEING NONE? PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. TODD, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT REAL FAST? I KNOW IT'S, THIS IS JUST A ZONING PHASE, BUT THANK YOU. YES. UH, THIS IS AS KEN AS MR. BRIAN SAID IN THE I 35 CORRIDOR. SO THERE'S MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR HVAC AND OTHER THINGS RELATED TO THE, UH, ELEVATION AND LIGHT, UH, SIGN SITE LINE ISSUES. UH, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC SEWER. IT, WE, WE DON'T RUN, UH, RETAIL ON PRIVATE SEWER IN EDMOND AS FAR AS LIGHTING. UH, THAT WOULD BE A LATER APPLICATION FOR SITE PLANNING, WHICH WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THE CITY OF EDMOND IS NOTORIOUS FOR NOT APPROVING VARIANCES IN THE I 35 CORRIDOR. SO TO DO ANY LIGHTING THAT WOULD BE OTHERWISE DOWN LIGHTING THAT WOULD BE COMPLIANT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD REACH. BUT IT WOULD BE HERE IN A PUBLIC HEARING THAT PEOPLE WOULD GET NOTICE. THE SAME PEOPLE THAT GOT NOTICE FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT FOR THAT AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION AND MANAGEMENT OF TRAFFIC, THAT'S ALSO A, UH, ONGOING PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF EDMOND RELATED TO INSPECTORS AND THINGS WITH RESPECT TO THAT. IT'S NOT JUST A FREE FOR ALL THAT THE DEVELOPER GETS TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT IN THAT PROCESS. IF THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S NEEDED BECAUSE THERE'S A SITE PLAN AND IT'S, OR IF IT'S PLATTED AS RETAIL, THAT'LL BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE DEVELOPER AT THAT TIME. UH, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IN THE ODOT, I DON'T KNOW, THEY USED TO SAY EIGHT YEAR PLAN. MAYBE IT STILL IS. THERE'S A COMPLETE REWORKING OF THE DANFORTH INTERCHANGE WHERE THERE'LL BE FULL ACCESS TO I 35 AND BOTH OF THOSE CLOVER LEAFS WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. SO THERE'LL BE SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS TO THE ON RAMP AND TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO THAT. UH, THAT'S JUST ADDITIONAL TRIVIAL INFORMATION, BUT IT'S RELEVANT TO FUTURE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL, UH, MEETINGS IF ANY OF THAT PROGRESSES ONTO SITE PLAN, WHICH THAT'S WHERE PRETTY MUCH ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WOULD BE ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE LOOKING FOR A MOTION IN ANY SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY A FO TO FIVE TO ZERO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 28TH. THANK YOU. YEP. MOVING ON TO FOUR [H. Case No. SP26-00006; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan for Shake Shack, located on the north side of East Covell Road, east of Market Street. (Feasibility Insights; Ward 2)] H. CASE NUMBER SP 2 6 0 0 0 6 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR SHAKE SHACK LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST COVAL ROAD. EAST OF MARKET STREET IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT. THANK YOU. MR. BRIAN, WILL YOU PRESENT? YES. THANK YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS CASE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.4 ACRES. THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COVELL AND MARKET IN THE LEGACY AT COVELL DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS. ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 3000 SQUARE FEET ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY TWO DRIVES, A RIDE IN RIDE OUT DRIVE ON HERITAGE PARK, AND A DRIVE ON EXCHANGE. THE PROJECT WILL CONNECT TO EDMOND UTILITIES. NO VARIANCES TO SITE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE REQUESTED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. BRIAN. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD TO THE CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION. SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. THAT IS APPROVED AS DONE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. MOVING DOWN THE AGENDA, UH, NUMBER [I. Case No. SP26-00007; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Site Plan for Brakes Plus, located on the west side of Santa Fe Avenue, south of Danforth Road. (Brakes Plus; Ward 4) Said Consideration to Include Consideration of Approval of the Following Variances to Title 21, Subdivisions, of the Edmond Municipal Code:  A Variance to Section 21.02.010.A.5 which requires 325 Feet of Separation between Driveways; and A Variance to Section 21. 02.030.B which requires 80 Feet of Right-of-Way Dedication.] FOUR, [B. Case No. PR26-00008; Consideration of Approval of a Final Plat for Brakes Plus, located on the west side of Santa Fe Avenue, south of Danforth Road. (Brakes Plus; Ward 4)] UH, FOUR I. CASE NUMBER SP TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 7 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR BREAKS PLUS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE AVENUE SOUTH OF DANFORTH ROAD. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. UH, MR. BRIAN, WILL WE PRESENT? YES. THANK YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS CASE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE. THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE, SOUTH OF DANFORTH. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS, ONE BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 5,000 SQUARE FEET. THE PROJECT WILL CONNECT TO EDMOND UTILITIES ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY A NEW DRIVE ON SANTA FE AND A SHARED ACCESS WITH THE LOCATION TO THE NORTH. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION STANDARD. THE EXISTING MEDIAN RESTRICTS TURNING MOVEMENTS TO RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT, WHICH HELPS MITIGATE THE IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS VARIANCE. [00:35:01] THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION STANDARD. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEDICATE 60 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY AND A 20 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT AND ARRANGEMENT THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE STANDARD IN THIS AREA. THIS APPLICATION REQUIRES THREE MOTIONS, ONE FOR EACH VARIANCE AND ONE FOR THE SITE PLAN ITSELF. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE VARIANCES. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DOES UH, THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD THE CITY STAFF BREACH? OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? AND AUSTIN, WILL YOU MIND ADDING A FEW, A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR FOR THE VARIANCES THERE REGARDING THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION? YOU KNOW, THE, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE REQUIRE 80 FOOT, HOWEVER THEY'RE OFFERING A 20 AND A 60, SO TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK. SURE. YEAH. UM, OUR SENIOR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER OF COURSE, AND HE'S BEEN, UM, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM REGARDING HIS VARIANCES. UM, HE HAS FOUND NO ISSUE WITH THEM. UM, LIKE THE MEMO COMMENTS SAY THE RIGHT OF WAY, GETTING THE 60 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN ALREADY ALMOST FULLY BUILT OUT ARTERIAL STREET THERE. THE LIKELIHOOD OF US NEEDING ADDITIONAL IN THE FUTURE IS LESS SO. UM, THE UTILITY EASEMENTS ARGUABLY THE MORE IMPORTANT PART WHICH THEY'RE PROVIDING. UM, SO THAT WE HAVE UTILITY ACCESS, UM, THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY AS NEEDED. UM, THE DRIVEWAY SEPARATION ALSO DISCUSSED WITH SENIOR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER. UM, THEY HAVE A SHARED ACCESS, UM, WITH THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, UM, BUT THEY WANT A ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY ASSUMABLY FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES. UM, THE RIDE IN RIDE OUT IS REALLY THE MAJOR CONCERN, UM, THAT'S ALLEVIATED WITH THAT MEDIAN. SO, UM, YEAH, THEY DON'T MEET THE 325 FEET OF SEPARATION WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE, BUT THE TURNING MOVEMENTS IN AND OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY SHOULD MITIGATE THAT CONCERN. SO THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE, SO YOU SAID CURRENTLY THEY HAVE A SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE FOR THIS SITE, OR I MEAN, IN OUR OPINION IT WOULD BE, OR STAFF WOULD'VE PREFERRED JUST THAT ACCESS, BUT BECAUSE THOSE ARE PRETTY TIGHT RIGHT THERE ON A PRETTY BUSY ROAD. YEAH. UM, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN STAFF'S PREFERENCE. THEY WOULD'VE MET CODE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED TO REQUEST A VARIANCE IF THEY JUST USED THAT ACCESS, BUT OKAY. YEAH, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REQUEST THAT VARIANCE, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS OF CITY STAFF OR OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENTS. AS A REMINDER, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME, UM, ASK ALL QUESTIONS TO MYSELF. THIS ISN'T A BACK AND FORTH. BE SURE ONCE WE'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS, DO YOUR BEST NOT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN FOR THE FOLLOWING PERSON. ONCE WE GET EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS TOGETHER, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET YOU ANSWERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, MR. CHAIR, MR. WISE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE ADMIN PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, MY NAME IS VICTOR G**O. I LIVE ON 2317 BRADFORD PLACE. THAT'S THE, UH, THE ORCHARDS IN THE TRAILS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I MOVED TO EDMOND IN THE FALL OF 1987, ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO. I'VE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE FOR ABOUT 23 YEARS, THE SAME HOUSE. AND MY WIFE AND I CHOSE TO MAKE EDMOND OUR HOME. SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THIS COMMUNITIES WELL EARNED NATIONAL REPUTATION, EDMOND CONSISTENTLY RANKS AMONG THE TOP MID-SIZE CITIES AND SUBURBS IN THE NATION. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND THIS WAS REPORTED IN THE NATIONAL PUBLICATION RANKINGS OF LIKE US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT AND OTHER SUCH, UH, PUBLICATIONS. AND THIS IS BECAUSE AS CITY PRIORITIZES EXCEPTIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS FAMILY FRIE, UH, FRIENDLY, SAFETY, PROTECTED PROPERTY VALUES, AND THOUGHTFUL URBAN PLANNING AND BALANCE, UH, AND THAT BALANCES GROWTH WITH RE RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE, IT IS PRECISELY TO PROTECT THESE COMMUNITY STANDARDS THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY THE SITE PLAN AND FINAL PLA APPLICATION, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED BREAKS PLUS FACILITY BEHIND OUR HOME ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE AVENUE, SOUTH OF DANFORTH ROAD, THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL OPERATION BACKS DIRECTLY ONTO THE REAR PROPERTY LINES OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO STREET OR NATURAL, UH, UH, UH, NATURAL GREEN BELT BUFFER. SEPARATING THIS KIND OF BUSINESS THAT USES COMMERCIAL BETOS FROM RESIDENTIAL BACKYARDS AND BEDROOMS, APPROVING A HIGH TURNOVER AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE FACILITY IN THIS PRECISE LOCATION DIRECTLY UNDERMINES THE FACTORS THAT MAKE ADMIN A TOP TIER PLACE TO LIVE. A COUPLE OF POINTS HERE, NO NOISE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. CONTINUOUS OPERATIONAL NOISE. AG COMPRESSES PNEUMATIC IMPACT TOOLS AND ENGINE TESTING WILL SPILL DIRECTLY INTO OUR BACKYARDS, DEPRIVING [00:40:01] OUR FAMILIES OF THE QUIET AND OUTDOOR SPACE. LIVING SPACES WE MOVE TO EDMOND TO ENJOY. UH, BOTH MY WIFE AND I WORK LONG HOURS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A SATURDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE LIKES TO SLEEP IN. I LIKE TO, UH, SPEND SOME QUALITY TIME, HAVE BREAKFAST WITH MY SON IN MY BACKYARD BY THE POOL. UM, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS. INTRODUCING, UH, CONSTANT SHORT DURATION CUSTOMER TRIPS AND SERVICE VEHICLES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR MAIN ENTRANCE AT SANTA FE. AND BRADFORD PLACE CREATES UNNECESSARY CONGEN CONGESTION AND SAFETY RISK FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN AND RESIDENTS. UM, I, MY DAUGHTER JUST STARTED DRIVING A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. MY SON'S BEEN, UH, DRIVING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND AS IT IS, AS AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND IT MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT OF, OF THIS BUSINESS IS GONNA DO TO THAT. UH, TURNING INTO DIFFERENT BRADFORD PLACE TO SANTA FE, THE NEXT CONCERN IS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMPATIBILITY AND VALUE INDUSTRIAL AUTO BAY DOSE. THESE ARE HUGE DOSE OUTDOORS, UH, TIRE STORAGE, BRIGHT EVENING SECURITY LIGHTING AND POTENTIAL CHEMICAL ODORS DO NOT BELONG AGAINST AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL FENCE LINE. UNPUTED ADJACENT COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS DIRECTLY ERODE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES, UH, DILUTING ECONOMIC STABILITY, ADMIN, HOMEOWNERS COUNT ON AND COME TO EXPECT. AND THIS WAS JUST CONFIRMED YESTERDAY WHEN I SPOKE TO A, UM, VERY RESPECT, UH, RESPECTED ADMIN REALTOR. UM, SO LET ME BE CLEAR, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO BUSINESS GROWTH IN EDMOND. I, MYSELF HAD A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES, UM, SO DEFINITELY NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. BUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MUST RESPECT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. POLICING AN ACTIVE, NOISY AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE CENTER DIRECTLY UP AGAINST HOMEOWNERS BACK FENCE LINES IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS THAT MAKE EDMOND OKLAHOMA'S PREMIER CITY. SO FOR THIS REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VOTE NO ON THIS CASE TO PROTECT OUR HOMES, OUR FAMILIES, AND THE LONG-TERM VISION OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHERS WISH TO SPEAK FOR COME ON UP. STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS TODD OBERDEN, 1 0 4 HANOVER DRIVE, EDMOND, OKLAHOMA. I THINK YOUR CLOSING COMMENT WAS GREAT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS BECAUSE THIS, UH, YOU'RE A VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, I DUNNO IF THIS WILL WORK OR NOT. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S THE SOUND OF A BREAK SHOP AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE PROPOSED USE OF THIS, UH, SITE FOR A BREAK SHOP IS, IS NEEDS A GREAT DEAL MORE OF STUDY. AND AT THE VERY LEAST I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, ESTABLISH, UH, GOOD HOURS OF OPERATION. I THINK WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE NOISE SITUATION, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH ON A ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OUTSIDE LIGHTING AND I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ODOR. AND I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS NOT BE APPROVED. IT'S, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI, RHONDA CANARO, ALSO SPOUSE OF VICTOR CANARO, LIVE AT 2317 BRADFORD PLACE. I ALSO ASK THIS TO BE DENIED AS CURRENTLY SET FORTH, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE A VIDEO CLIP FROM MY PHONE FROM MY BACKYARD. SINCE WE ARE AT THE HOUSE WITH THE POOL. I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN PLAY IT WHERE Y'ALL CAN SEE IT. CAN I BRING IT TO YOU? YEAH, YOU CAN PROBABLY, WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER OTHER THAN JUST YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S CLOSE. YOU CAN PASS IT DOWN IF YOU'D LIKE. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. YEAH, YOU CAN PASS IT DOWN IF YOU WANT TO. YEAH, [00:45:20] THANK YOU MA'AM. WHAT DID YOU SAY? YOUR, IS THIS YOUR HOUSE THAT'S ON THE MAP RIGHT HERE? THE POOL THAT I CAN SEE THE BORDERS. THIS? YES. IS THAT OKAY? THANK YOU. YES, THAT'S IT. SO I WAS CURIOUS. YES. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? UH, NO, IT IS THE SAME AS MY HUSBAND'S COMMENTS. OKAY. RESPECTFULLY, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION TO DENY THIS AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TAYLOR WILSON. 7 4 8 DUNE CIRCLE. UM, I DID NOT HEAR, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE, UH, AUSTIN TO TALK MORE OF WHY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE VARIANCE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY GOT PUSHED INTO THAT POSITION OF, I MEAN, IT'S THAT WHOLE STRATEGY ALONG THAT ROAD THERE IS TO FORCE PEOPLE INTO THAT INNER ROAD AND GO ALONG. AND SO I I I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF WHY THE CITY IS ENCOURAGING THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THERE WAS TWO VARIANCES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE, UH, TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INGRESS EGRESS, THE ENTRANCE THERE, THAT'S THE MAIN ONE, BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE OTHER ONE. WHY. UH, I UNDERSTAND. SO IF A AREA GETS FULLY DEVELOPED, VARIANCE, UH, RIGHT OF WAYS DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE. SO I SHOULD GO LOOK FOR PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPED AND I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CITY. I CAN USE IT FOR OTHER USES, I GUESS. IS THAT THE PRECEDENT, PRECEDENT SETTING THAT WE WANT TO DO RELATIVE TO ZONING CHANGES? OKAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS TYPE? GOOD AFTERNOON. AGAIN, MY NAME'S DAN O'NEILL WITH THE EDMOND NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE. UH, I WANNA TALK ABOUT SENSITIVE BORDERS. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SENSITIVE BORDERS. UM, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS A RATHER OBLONG LOT. IT, UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY LONG. IT'S 380, 300 AND, UM, 35 FOOT LONG AND IT'S 125 FOOT WIDE. IF YOU TAKE OUT THAT AREA THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP AND THEY'VE GIVEN UP ON THE PRE PRIOR LOTS, YOU CAN SEE IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. UH, BUT IT STOPS, UH, ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO HALF THAT PROPERTY IS NOT EVEN THAT WE'RE COUNTING IS ALMOST AN ACRE IS NOT EVEN GOING TO BE BUILT ON. IT'S THE CITY'S ZONE AND PROPERTY. UH, THE, THE LENGTH OF DISTANCE FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST ON THAT LOT ABOVE WHICH, WHICH MATCHES WHERE THEY WILL HAVE THEIR LOT, IS ACTUALLY, UH, UH, 285 FOOT. SO IF YOU SAY THAT AND YOU DIVIDE THAT BY THE 41,875 SQUARE FEET, YOU HAVE A TOTAL NORTH DISTANCE OF 147 FEET. UH, THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, UM, IS, IS LISTED AS D TWO IN YOUR AGENDA. IT'S LISTED, THE CITY STAFF IS LISTED AS D TWO ZONING, D TWO ZONING UNDER SECTION FOR SENSITIVE BORDERS. 22.6 0.5 SAYS FOR D TWO, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO 70 FOOT BUFFER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THERE. AND IF YOU DRAW THE LINE FOR 70 FOOT, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO IF STAFF FIGURED OUT SAYS THAT THIS MEETS THE, THE STANDARD, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY MEET THAT STANDARD. BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY, HALF OF IT IS NOT DEVELOPABLE UNDER THE SENSITIVE BORDER STANDARD. THEIR BUILDING CANNOT BE WITHIN 70 FOOT OF THEIR BORDER. UH, THIS IS A ORDINANCE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, SINCE 2010. UH, I WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THIS PROCESSED OVER THE YEARS. UH, IT'S QUITE LENGTHY. UH, IT WAS DONE AFTER CONSIDERABLE THOUGHT AND UH, AFTER A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TRYING AND ERROR AND ERROR [00:50:01] AND THE SENSITIVE BORDER WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE COMPROMISED ON FIGURING OUT HOW TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UP AGAINST COMMERCIALS. FOR THE MOST PART, THIS, THE MOST APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS PLACE IS A CAD ONE TYPE THING OR WHAT WE CALL SUBURBAN OFFICE. ABOUT HALF THE ZONING IN EDMOND IS A SUBURBAN OFFICE. OKAY? SO THE COMMERCIAL BY COMPARISON IS VERY LITTLE COMPARED TO SUBURBAN OFFICE. AND IF WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, OF DOING SUBURBAN OFFICE NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LIKE DOCTOR'S OFFICES AND OTHER, UH, BANKS, UM, YOU, YOU GET A BETTER PLACE A WAY TO MANAGE WHERE ZONING IS LOCATED. AND SO WE THINK THAT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD IDEA. IT'S BEEN A STANDING ORDINANCE IN OUR CITY FOR SOME TIME AND IT'S, UH, SAVED A LOT OF TROUBLE AND IT, IT SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY CAN, UH, STAFF CAME UP WITH THE IDEA AND WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT WITH KEN, UH, LAST FRIDAY. AND UM, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS CLEARLY, UH, UH, DOESN'T PROVIDE 70 FOOT BUFFER AND MAY, THERE'S, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TWO WAYS TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER BACK TO 50 BY PUTTING A LANDSCAPING BUFFER IN THERE OR BY PUTTING A BRICK WALL. AND THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT A BRICK WALL BEING ON THE, UH, ON THEIR SITE PLAN. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A BRICK WALL OR WHAT IT WAS, BUT THERE'S SOME KIND OF UNUSUAL LITTLE DESIGN IN ON THE MAP THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE SITE PLAN FOR A WALL, OR I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT'S THE RESIDENCE WALL, UH, FENCE OR ONE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO. UH, BUT ANYWAY, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. IT COULD BE 50 FOOT, BUT IT DIDN'T EVEN MEET THE 50 FOOT REQUIREMENT EITHER. SO, AND ALSO, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THEY, THEY CAN ONLY PUT FIVE PARKING LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING. I'M NOT SURE THAT THOSE ARE ALL FIVE PARKING LOTS OR THERE'S SOME EDGES THERE THAT ARE NOT. BUT THERE'S A RESTRICTION ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING LOTS ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UH, THE OTHER PART I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, I'D LIKE TO, UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, CONNECTIVITY, UH, AND THE VARIANCE FOR CONNECTIVITY THAT, UH, THEY ARE ASKING FOR. IF YOU WILL NOTE, UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED IN 1981 AND ANYBODY'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT DANFORTH AND, UH, SANTA FE IN 1981, WALMART DIDN'T COME ALONG UNTIL ABOUT 2000. IT WAS A TWO-LANE ROAD. EVERYTHING WAS TWO-LANE ROAD. AND SO WE HAD THIS MASTER PLAN AND WE GOT THIS PROGRAM GOING AND WE, WE DID D TWO, UH, AS OUR GENERAL CHARACTERIZATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. UM, IT HAS BEEN THE MOST ARGUED ABOUT ZONING IN OUR CITY. CREST WAS AN ISSUE ON IT. THE FOX, FOX LAKE AND THE, AND THE, UH, WALMART. THERE WAS A, A ISSUE ON THAT AND WE HAVEN'T RO ZONED ANYTHING D TWO IN, UH, IN THE LAST HALF CENTURY . THERE'S BEEN VERY SPARCE UH, SITUATIONS WHERE WE CALL FOR D TWO AGAIN. BUT ANYWAY, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS WE'VE WORKED ON THIS CORNER AND YOU CAN START WITH EVERY STOP, THE SEVEN 11, EVERYTHING GOING ALONG THE STREET NORTH OF THIS PROJECT. EVERY BUILDING IS CONNECTED. THIS THE, UH, THE CAR WASH, UH, WHEN THEY PUT IN THE ZONING FOR THE DENTAL SHOP THAT'S RIGHT NORTH OF THIS PROJECT, THE SAME MAN OWNED THAT LOT AS THE LOT THAT WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT. THEN AT THE TIME THAT THEY DID THAT, AND HE, THE CITY MADE HIM DO AN ACCESS TO THE SOUTH. OKAY. WE MADE A TURN LANE FOR HIM AND THAT BUILDING, PUT IT IN THERE. AND THAT WAS THE PLAN, THE TURN LANE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE ISLAND GOES OUT THERE RIGHT TO THAT CORNER WHERE YOU'RE TURNING IN ON THE, JUST NORTH OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR AN ACCESS ROAD FOR THAT LOT TO THE SOUTH THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THE BRICK PLUS BUILDING IN. AND IT TAKES STAMINA AND PUSH AND COMMITMENT TO MAKE CONNECTIVITY WORK. AND [00:55:01] WE'VE DONE IT OVER THE YEARS ON FIVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA THERE, RIGHT ON THAT STREET. UH, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST ONE AND WE WANT TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE AND NOT DO IT. I'M SORRY. STICK WITH THE PLAN, MAKE CONNECTIVITY WORK AND DON'T APPROVE THIS VARIANCE. IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU'RE HERE TO DO THINGS AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN THAT, THAT IMPROVE OUR CITY. AND CONNECTIVITY IS IMPORTANT AND YOU GUYS HAVE GOT THE DECISION TO MAKE THAT. IT'S GOTTA GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU'D WORK ON CONNECTIVITY AND KEEP THE KEEP IMPROVED. AND WE'VE ALREADY SET UP A LANE FOR THE TURN IN AND IT'S ON THE SOUTH, ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROJECT. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT IT WAS PLANNED FOR, UH, AND IF THE SMILING DENTAL PLACE THERE, , UH, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND IT SEEMS TO WORK FOR THEM AND I'M SURE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC, UH, IF YOU, WHATEVER WE PUT IN THERE AT SOME FUTURE DATE ANYWAY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT, UM, VARIANCE NOT BE APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS FRANCIS SNELL AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE ORCHARD FOR 26 YEARS AND MOST OF MY TALKING POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED THIS EVENING. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE PARKING, UM, WHEN IT COMES BECAUSE THE, THE AREA THAT THEY WANT TO BAIL ON IS VERY NARROW AND I'M THINKING ABOUT INOPERABLE VEHICLES OR VEHICLES THAT ARE LEFT OVERNIGHT. UM, IS THERE GONNA BE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THAT? UM, ALSO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, FOR THIS BUSINESS. AND LIKE I SAID, MOST OF MINE HAVE BEEN COVERED, SO I WON'T BE REDUNDANT AND GO OVER 'EM AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? LAST CHANCE? YOU GET TO SPEAK ONE THOUGH. JUST ONCE. YEP. SORRY, I WANNA PRESENT IT. I DON'T REMEMBER FROM, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THAT YOU, THERE WAS AN EMAIL EARLIER. IS THAT WHAT YOU SENT US? YEAH, WE ALL RECEIVED IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LAST CHANCE AT PUBLIC COMMENTS. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. WOULD THE APPLICANT GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP? WERE YOU MAKING A LIST THERE? STUFF TO ADDRESS. OKAY. TRYING TO . PERFECT. UM, THE MAJOR THINGS WE HEARD ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THE VARIANCE IS BOTH, YOU KNOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE OF COURSE. UM, NOISE LIGHTING, PARKING, HOURS OF OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO START GOING DOWN THE LIST. I'LL TRY TO SEE IF I CAN CATCH ANYTHING THAT YOU DIDN'T DO. OKAY, WELL TO START, MY NAME'S ZACH THOMPSON. I'M WITH OLSON AND I'M REPRESENTING BRAKES PLUS AS WELL. UM, SO I'LL START WITH THE DRIVEWAY SPACING. THE CODE REQUIRES 325 FEET OF DRIVEWAY SPACING. WE'RE PROVIDING 103, BUT WITH THIS DESIGN, WE'LL MAXIMIZE SPACING BY PUSHING THE DRIVEWAY AS FAR SOUTH TO THE PROPERTY LINE AS POSSIBLE. UH, IT'S ALSO RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT WHICH LIMITS TRAFFIC JAM TURNING INTO THE SITE. IT DOES NOT ADD ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CROSSING TO THE ROAD, UH, TO TURN LEFT OUT OF THE SITE. ADDING THIS DRIVEWAY ALSO PROVIDES BETTER TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND IT PROVIDES BETTER FIRE ACCESS, CIRCULATION, SUPPORTING LIFE SAFETY. AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE'RE MATCHING RIGHT OF WAY OF THE SITE TO THE NORTH. UM, WE'RE PROVIDING UTILITY EASEMENT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY VARIANCE. DID YOU SAY YOU'RE MATCHING THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE NORTH? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN FOR THE NOISE FOR, I MEAN NOISE AND WASTE AND LIGHTING, THE SITE IS DESIGNED, UM, TO MEET THE NOISE ORDINANCE FOR THE ZONING AS WELL AS THE, UM, WASTE. SO FOR THE WASTE, UM, IT'LL BE ODORLESS BECAUSE IT'S ALL CONTAINED USING LIKE GREASE TRAPS AND ALSO, UH, LIKE TIRES, OIL, THOSE THINGS ARE CONTAINED INSIDE THE BUILDING. AND THEN ANYTHING THAT LEAVES, UH, THERE'LL BE LIKE A GREASE TRAP ON SITE. AND ALL OF THAT IS DESIGNED TO MEET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS NEXT? TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE BORDERS AND THE SCREEN. WHAT DO YOU GUYS PLAN ON DOING ON, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THIS IS TWO SIDES BORDERING A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YES. AND SO, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. I GREW UP OVER THERE. I I KNOW IT WELL. SO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING [01:00:01] ON THE WEST AND THE SOUTH SIDES TO HELP THAT. WELL, FOR, FOR ONE THERE'S AN EXISTING FENCE ON THAT PROPERTY LINE. UH, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF FENCE IS THAT RIGHT NOW? I THINK IT'S A WOODEN FENCE. JUST A WOODEN YES. BUT, UH, BRAKES PLUS IS WORKING ON A FENCE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND THEY'RE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING, REPAIRING AND REPLACING THE FENCE AS NEEDED. SO WOULD THAT BE A THE SAME REPLACING AS A, AS A WOODEN FENCE OR ARE YOU TALKING MASONRY? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU GUYS ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY KEY POINT HERE, CONSIDERING TWO SIDES IS AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YES. YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT FENCE. JUST COMMITTING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT FENCE AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, REPAIR IT AND REPLACE IT AS IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED. OKAY. UH, HOURS OF OPERATION. UH, IT'LL BE NORMAL HOURS OF OPERATION FOR BREAKS PLUS, WHICH IS ROUGHLY EIGHT TO SIX. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. WHAT DO YOU GUYS, WHAT MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AT SOME LOCATIONS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S THEIR LIKE STANDARD. SO THAT'S, I CAN, THAT'S WHAT MEAN IS IT? NO, SUNDAYS ARE NOT. THAT'S PROBABLY A BIG THING TO YEAH. KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? OKAY. UM, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING. THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THINGS NOISE YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT. UM, ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THE VARIANCES? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AUSTIN ONE MORE TIME, WILL YOU COMMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THOSE VARIANCES AGAIN AFTER HEARING ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE? YEAH, ONE OF THE THINGS THE AUSTIN SMITH DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT MENTIONED IS, UM, AND THIS IS KIND OF OUTSIDE ENGINEERING'S PURVIEW A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, THE FIRE SAFETY, UM, MECHANISM. SO IF THERE WASN'T A SECOND DRIVE, AND HE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD NEED A TURNAROUND, UM, WITHIN THEIR SITE, WHICH CAN, I THINK IT'S LIKE A HUNDRED FEET OR SO. IT'S, IT'S QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UH, PAVEMENT THAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE FOR TURNAROUNDS. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE LOGIC AND WHY THEY'RE PROVIDING THAT FOR SOLID WASTE AND FOR FIRE ACCESS BECAUSE THE, THE TO THE NORTH, THE LOT TO THE NORTH IS THE ONLY ONE NOT CONNECTED TO THAT KIND OF SIDE ROAD. MM-HMM . THAT GETS YOU BACK TO THE LIGHT. IS THAT KIND OF WHY THIS IS ALMOST A NECESSITY? YEAH, AND I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN IF YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND, I MEAN THAT'S A PRETTY, THOSE ARE SKINNY LOTS. YEAH. UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S BUILT THERE THOUGH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A VARIANCE FOR, FOR NO MATTER WHAT BUSINESSES THERE'RE, IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? SO FOUR D ACCESS, THAT'S NOT QUITE TRUE. UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SHARED ACCESS AGREEMENT ALREADY IN PLACE WITH, TO THE NORTH. SO IF THE GARDEN OFFICE BUILDING THE SHARED ACCESS IN THEORY WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. OKAY. YEAH. YES SIR. THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE LOSS OF BUILDABLE SPACE AS A RESULT. SANITATION REQUIREMENTS AROUND ALSO ACCESS. CORRECT. I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S THEIR, THEIR STANCE ON IT FROM, LIKE I SAID, ENGINEERING, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE ENGINEERING PURVIEW, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SITE FUNCTIONALITY, IT, IT DOES MAKE A FAIR AMOUNT OF SENSE TO ALLOW THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF, AND LIKE I SAID, IT, THIS IS OUR SENIOR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER'S TAKE ON THE SITE, HIS ANALYSIS OF IT. AND I IMAGINE THAT WAS PART OF HIS LOGIC WHEN IT CAME TO REVIEWING THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. AND THAT'S HIS OPINION THAT WE SHOULD DO IT THIS WAY, STAFF'S. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? I SHOULD SAY STAFF'S OPINION IS WE ARE UNOPPOSED TO THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. OKAY. UH, SENSITIVE BORDER, WE, YES. WE HAVE DISCUSSED. WOULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? UH, MR. BRYANT? THE ONLY, UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION I WOULD MAKE ON SENSITIVE BORDER IS THE SENSITIVE BORDER YARD, WHICH IS THAT ADDITIONAL SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED. UM, THE, THE CURRENT CODE REQUIRES THAT IN THE D TWO, A ZONING DISTRICT, BUT NOT IN D TWO, WHICH IS THE REPEALED ZONING DISTRICT. SO WHEN, WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE ANALYZE THE SITE PLAN LIKE THIS, WE DON'T APPLY THAT YARD. NOW, THE OTHER SENSITIVE BORDER STANDARDS RELATED TO FENCING AND HOURS OF OPERATION AND THOSE THINGS DO APPLY. OKAY. WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? DO YOU WANNA REPEAT THAT? SO THIS, YEAH, THIS DID NOT APPLY TO THE, THE SENSITIVE BORDER OR OF WHAT THAT WAS, REMIND ME JUST THE YARD, JUST THE YARD 70 FEET SETBACK THAT APPLIES TO THE D TWO A ZONING DISTRICT D TWO A NOT TO D TWO. GOTCHA. OKAY. [01:05:02] OKAY. ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? YEAH, JUST A COUPLE IF YOU DON'T MIND. UH, YOU KNOW, SOUND IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST DEAL, I THINK. UH, WILL YOU BE KEEPING YOUR DOORS CLOSED, YOUR GARAGE DOORS CLOSED? I, I KNOW THEY'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE. I KNOW YOU NEED AIR, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE SOUND IS GONNA COME FROM. I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AT THIS TIME. CAN YOU AGREE TO KEEP THE DOORS CLOSED? I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN MAKE THAT CALL. UM, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO USE THE DOORS FOR, WELL, OF COURSE YOU GREEN VEHICLES IN AND OUT, OF COURSE, WHEN CAR'S MOVING AND OUT. BUT, UH, BUT DURING, YOU KNOW, AS A COURTESY I GUESS, AND AS A, UH, CAN, CAN WE KEEP THOSE? IF, IF IT'S NOT AGAINST CODE, UH, AND YOU'VE GOT AIR IN THERE, UM, CIRCULATION, UH, I'M JUST THINKING IT'D BE BEST TO KEEP THE DOORS CLOSED TO KEEP THE SOUND DOWN. I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LIKE, UM, BUSINESS PRACTICES ARE NECESSARILY IN REGARDS TO THAT. I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE, THE FENCING TOO. THE SCREENING. WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THAT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING WOODEN FENCING, THAT DOESN'T KEEP ANY NOISE OUT. THAT'S WHY I THINK THE COMMENTS YOU HEARD TODAY, YOU KNOW, REGARDING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SCREENING, MAYBE PRETTY PRODUCTIVE HERE. BUT I, I'LL THROW THAT OUT. BUT I THINK THAT KIND OF WOULD NOT SOLVE, BUT WOULD GO A LONG WAY FOR MR. WINTER'S. YEAH. COMMISSIONER WINTER'S COMMENTS AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE ON YOUR ENTIRE SIDE'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S A UNIQUE SIDE. UM, JUST A COMMENT. SO YEAH, IT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S ZONED THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, FOR, IN THAT REGARDS, BUT IT'S BEEN ZONED THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. SO THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THOUGHT THAT THAT GOES IN INTO THAT SOUND ABATEMENT. UM, COULD YOU MOVE TO THE, UH, UH, CHANGE THE SLIDE TO THE, UH, LANDSCAPING PLAN PLEASE? OKAY. SO LOOKING AT THE SOUTH SIDE THERE, UH, I THINK I LOOKED ONE TIME, BUT I'VE FORGOTTEN. WHAT ARE THOSE, UH, WHAT ARE THE TREES THERE THAT'LL BE PLANTED ON THE SOUTH SIDE? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, UH, I MEAN, HOW MUCH, UH, LANDSCAPING IS GONNA BE ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE FOR THAT WOULD HELP WITH, WITH THE SOUND AND THE SITE. UH, THERE'LL BE TREE COVER AROUND THE TWO SIDES, EXCEPT WHERE THERE'S A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE. I THINK THOSE WERE FAIRLY TALL TREES WEREN'T THERE. I MEAN, PROBABLY NOT WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED, BUT SEVEN TO EIGHT FEET. UH, I THINK SO. I'M TRYING TO READ WHAT KIND OF TREES THERE. YEP. I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. . YES, IT LOOKS LIKE SEVEN FOOT HEIGHT MINIMUM. OKAY. FOR ALL THE SOUTH BORDER, EXCEPT FOR THAT SPACE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY COVERED WITH ADDITIONAL, UH, LANDSCAPING. MM-HMM . TO THE NORTH OF IT. YES. AND THEY'RE PRESERVING THE EXISTING TREES AS WELL. RIGHT. OKAY. I THINK ONE MORE NOTE TO ADD, UH, THE ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, COULD YOU PULL UP THAT? I THINK IT'S ONE SLIDE ABOVE THAT ONE THAT SOUTH ELEVATION, THOSE LIGHTS ON THAT BOTTOM BUILDING RENDERING, UH, ALMOST REGARDLESS OF WHAT WALL OR FENCE YOU HAVE, THOSE LIGHTS ARE GONNA BE RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD. UM, SO I'D KIND OF MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AS WELL. UH, E EITHER THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE POINTED DIRECTLY AT THE GROUND OR THEY'RE GONNA BE , THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME LIGHT, UH, THROUGH THEIR BACK WINDOWS AS WELL. THOSE ARE DOWNLIGHTS, ARE THEY? YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? I HATE TO HARP ON THE, UH, ON THE DOORS. IS THERE, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY THAT WE CAN, UH, MONITOR THAT QUESTION, EXCEPT JUST BY A PROMISE. RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT YOU'LL LOOK INTO IT AND, AND KEEP THOSE CLOSED. YOU, I MEAN, YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM MM-HMM . SO, OKAY. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT RECORDING THAT, THAT HE SHOWED. SO , THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, BEFORE WE PROCEED, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US GET TO THE ANSWER SUCH AS HOURS OFF OPERATION, THE SOUTH ELEVATION. RYAN JUST MENTIONED THE SCREENING, WHICH I THINK IS A BIG THING. UM, AND THE DOORS CLOSING. DO YOU WANT TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AT THIS TIME, OR DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH A VOTE? UH, I CAN SAY FOR SURE THAT MONDAY [01:10:01] THROUGH SATURDAY, EIGHT TO SIX. OKAY. AND THEN THE SCREENING, THE, LIKE FENCING, UH, UM, I KNOW AT THIS TIME THEY'RE PLANNING ON MAINTAINING THE EXISTING FENCE. OKAY. THAT'S, I'LL ASK ONE LAST TIME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANG ON GUYS, YOU GUYS CAN'T SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE PLEASE. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO US TO GO PROCEED WITH THE VOTE NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO GET A CONTINUANCE TO SHORE THAT UP? OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? UH, PROCEED WITH THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND AS PRESENTED. UM, LET'S START WITH, UM, LET'S SEE, HANG ON A SECOND. WE HAVE VARIANCES HERE. OKAY, SO LET'S START WITH CASE NUMBER. WELL, THE FIRST ONE WE'LL TAKE WILL BE CASE NUMBER SP TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 7 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR BRAKES PLUS, UH, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE AVENUE, SOUTH OF DANFORTH ROAD. SO THE FIRST ONE TO TAKE UP IS THE FIRST VARIANCE. UM, SO THE FIRST VARIANCE IS A VARIANCE TO SECTION 21.02010 A FIVE, WHICH REQUIRES A 325 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS. SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION ANY SECOND ON I, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF ONE TO FOUR THAT IS NOT APPROVED. MOVING ON TO THE SECOND VARIANCE, WHICH IS, UM, STILL FOUR I A VARIANCE TO SECTION 21.0 2 0 3, 0 POINT B, WHICH REQUIRES 80 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION, LOOKING FOR A MOTION. AND A SECOND, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION SECOND. SO WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ONE. THAT ONE IS APPROVED. OKAY, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, I, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE CASE NUMBER FOR THE, UH, CASE NUMBER S SP TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 7 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR BREAKS, PLUS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE AVENUE SOUTH OF DANFORTH ROAD. SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS AS PRESENTED. LET ME MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION. AS HE PROPOSED, UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM EIGHT TO SIX. THAT'S THE ONLY MODIFICATION TO THE PROPOSAL MOTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF ONE TO FOUR. THAT DOES NOT PASS. UM, THIS WILL STILL BE, THIS WILL STILL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON 9 28. UM, ALL THREE ITEMS WILL STILL BE TAKEN UP BY CITY COUNCIL. UM, HANG ON ONE SEC. AND THE FINAL AGENDA ITEM ON THIS ONE REGARDING THE SAME ITEM, WHICH IS TO BE HEARD WITH THIS WAS, UM, AGENDA ITEM TWO B, CASE NUMBER PR 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 8, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT FOR BREAKS, PLUS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SANTA FE AVENUE SOUTH OF DANFORTH. CAN YOU PRESENT THAT? I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED. YOU GUYS ARE WELL AWARE OF THE FINAL PLAT, SO VERY QUICKLY. YEAH. OKAY. UH, MR. BRIAN WILL PRESENT A QUICK RUNDOWN. YEAH, THIS, THE, SO THE FINAL PLAT IS FOR THIS SAME PROJECT IN THE SAME LOCATION. IT JUST CREATES A SINGLE LOT THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THIS COMMERCIAL PURPOSE. THANK YOU. UH, WOULD YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF THE, UM, COM OF THE CITY STAFF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THAT? OBVIOUSLY WE'VE ALREADY HEARD WHAT YOU GUYS HAD TO SAY, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THIS FINAL PLAT MOTION? SEEING NONE? OH, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, WE STATE YOUR NAME ONE MORE TIME. I'M SORRY. ONE, UH, MY NAME IS VICTOR RO. THANK YOU. UM, AND I'M, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE WERE NEVER CONSULTED AND THE FIRST TIME WE FOUND ABOUT, FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WAS THE LETTER FROM THE CITY ON, UM, AUGUST 19TH, UH, DATED AUGUST 19TH. BUT NOBODY HAS EVER SPOKEN TO US. NOBODY HAS EVER, YOU KNOW, UH, TALKED TO US ABOUT THE, THAT FENCE IS OUR FENCE, BY THE WAY. I MEAN, IT IS, YOU KNOW, I BUILT THAT FENCE. SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MASONRY WALL COME UP THERE TO BLOCK, NOT JUST, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOUND, BUT WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE, THE SMELLS, THE ODOR THAT'S GONNA COME FROM THE CHEMICALS THAT THEY USE? I, I WENT THROUGH THEIR SITE ON PEN AND, UH, PEN AND 33RD OVER [01:15:01] THERE. AND THE LIGHTING IS NOT DOWN. LIGHTING. I MEAN, I TOOK PICTURES ON IT. I'VE GOT ON MY PHONE, I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU. UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, UH, THEY'VE GOT, UH, DRAINAGE COMING DOWN FROM THE SIDES. THEY'VE GOT PIPES, UH, PVC PIPES, HUGE PIPES WITH WATER CRUSHING DOWN THROUGH THERE. I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT IT IS, WHETHER IT'S WATER, WHAT LIQUID, UM, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. IT'S OPEN, IT'S, IT'S OPEN RAIN, IT'S CEMENTED, AND THAT'S THE, UH, THE ONE ON PENN. AND OF COURSE THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA. IT'S 33RD AND PENN. BUT I CAN SHOW YOU, UH, PICTURES OF, UH, UH, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE, NO, THE ONLY COMMENT I WILL SAY TO THAT, THAT'S OKLAHOMA CITY, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT, WE'LL, UH, LIGHTING HAS BEEN A VERY HOT TOPIC, EDMOND, FOR A LONG TIME, I PROMISE YOU SO. OKAY, . YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS IF THIS GETS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UH, WE ARE SETTING A PRECEDENT OVER HERE FOR BUSINESSES LIKE THIS. SO, SO CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, IT'S JUST RIGHT BEHIND OUR BACKYARD. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS GETS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES WILL, WILL POINT TO THIS AS ONE THAT GOT APPROVED. SO IT'S SETTING A PRECEDENT. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? HEARING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND BY A VOTE OF THREE TO TWO THAT IS APPROVED AND MOVES ON TO CITY COUNCIL ON 9 28, ALONG WITH THE OTHER ONES. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON DOWN THE [J. Presentation and Discussion of a Unified Development Code Which Would Replace Municipal Codes for: Zoning; Subdivisions; Site Design and Development Standards; Stormwater Drainage; and Other General Regulatory Matters Related Thereto in the City of Edmond. (City of Edmond; Citywide)] AGENDA. WE HAVE FOUR J PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH WOULD REPLACE MUNICIPAL CODES FOR ZONING, SUBDIVISIONS, SITE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, STORMWATER DRAINAGE, AND OTHER GENERAL REGULATORY MATTERS RELATED THERETO IN THE CITY OF EDMOND. MR. BRIAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? YES, THANK YOU. SO I'M JOINED, UH, THIS EVENING BY, UH, BECCA SMITH, WHO'S GONNA HELP ME, UM, WORK THROUGH THE, THE SLIDES ON THE DEVELOPMENT CODE PROPOSAL. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS, WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED. WE'RE INITIATING THE PROCESS TO, UM, ADOPT A NEW DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A HANDFUL OF YEARS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT HERE. UM, THIS IS ON FOR A PRESENTATION TO DISCUSSION. SO THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN, ASK QUESTIONS, AND PROVIDE COMMENTS, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS TO ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. BUT, UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ON OUR WAY BACK TO YOU GUYS SOON. UM, WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHOEVER'S GOT THE CLICKER. UM, SO THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO, WE'VE GOT A BRIEF INTRODUCTION. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE BIG IDEAS AND MAJOR CHANGES, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IMMEDIATE NEXT STEPS AS IT RELATES TO THE ADOPTION PROCESS. SO NEXT, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT, OF THE, UH, THE OVERALL UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS TO, UM, CLARIFY AND STREAMLINE SOME OF THE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES. BECCA'S GONNA TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT. UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STANDARDS IN THE EXISTING CODE THAT WORK WELL AND, UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. UM, ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR COMPONENTS IS TO PRESERVE, UM, RURAL PLACES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, UH, FOCUSING ON REDEVELOPMENT AND INFILL IN KEY LOCATIONS SUCH AS BROADWAY CORRIDOR, UM, I 35 AND SOME OTHERS. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE TIMELINE QUICKLY JUST AS THE OVERALL PROJECT SCHEDULE. JUST AS A REMINDER. SO, UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN WITH US FOR A LITTLE BIT, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE, BUT, UH, WE'VE KICKED OFF THIS PROJECT IN, UM, THE FALL OF, OF 2022. THE FIRST PHASE WAS A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE, UH, FOR SOME TIME NOW. THAT WAS A, BASICALLY A CRITIQUE OF OUR CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ESTABLISHED A LOT OF THE, UM, THE CONCEPTS THAT WE TRIED TO ADDRESS AS WE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH OVERHAULING OR UPDATING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE PHASE TWO AND THREE SHOWN HERE, WHICH IS UPDATING THE CODES AND WORKING ON MAPPING THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR A WHILE, SLOWLY CLOSING OUT THAT PHASE AS WE MOVE INTO [01:20:01] ADOPTION. AND SO WITH THAT, UH, BECCA'S GOING TO, UM, TAKE IT FROM HERE AND, AND WORK THROUGH A LOT OF THESE DETAILS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, MOST OF Y'ALL, EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ME. MY NAME IS BECCA SMITH. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT PLANNER AND THE PROJECT MANAGER ON, UM, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, LOVINGLY KNOWN AS THE UDC. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS LIKE KEN SAID, SINCE 2022. AND SO WE FINALLY SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL AND WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, WE CAN GET THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, UM, GET IT APPROVED. SO THE ORGANIZATION OF THE UDC WOW, THAT IS LOUD, UH, BASICALLY ENCOMPASSES TITLES 21, 22, AND 23. I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WHEN I'VE STOOD UP HERE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS PREVIOUSLY. THAT'S SUBDIVISIONS, UH, STORMWATER AND ZONING. SO THE UDC COMBINES ALL THAT INTO GENERAL PROVISIONS, ZONING REGULATIONS, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. WE'VE PULLED SITE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUT OF THE ZONING CODE, WHICH IT CURRENTLY SITS INSIDE 22 AND PARTS OF 21 STORM WATER DRAINAGE AND THEN DEFINITIONS COMBINED FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE. OTHER THAN THE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE HEARD FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IS THE HOW THE CURRENT CODE READS. UH, IT'S NOT GREAT, UH, IDENTIFIED IN THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT. UH, CREATING A UDC THAT IS EASY FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WAS AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT FOR THE UDC TO BE EASY TO UNDERSTAND BY EVERYONE, NOT JUST THOSE OF US WHO HAVE MASTER'S DEGREES OR ARE IN THE FIELD WITH THE ADDITION OF GRAPHICS AND ILLUSTRATIONS, CLICKING LINKS, UH, CLICKABLE LINKS. I'M SORRY TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE DOCUMENT AND LANGUAGE THAT IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THE UDC PROVIDES FOR EASE OF USE AND UNDERSTANDING FROM EVERYONE, UH, FROM YOU GUYS TO THE CI CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE. I'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR ZONING APPROACH AND HOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE 32 DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. MANY OF THOSE ARE UNDERUTILIZED, UH, PROPOSED. WE'VE KIND OF ALTERED SOME OF THIS. I THINK IN THE PAST I'VE SAID WE HAD MAYBE 10 TO 13 ZONING DISTRICTS. WE'VE BROUGHT THAT DOWN TO 10 ZONING DISTRICTS WITH, UH, UPWARDS OF FIVE OVERLAYS, THREE CONTEXT AREAS. PDS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ARE GONNA BE MAINTAINED AS MANY OF THOSE ARE VERY UNIQUE AND EQUIVALENCIES HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS. MOVING INTO THE UDC ZONING DISTRICTS, THIS IS A MAP OF OUR CONTEXT AREAS. UH, THE LEGEND IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT SHOWS THAT OUR URBAN CONTEXT AREAS, AND I'LL DESCRIBE HOW THIS RELATES TO ZONING HERE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. UH, THE CONTEXT AREAS THAT ARE PURPLE ARE CONSIDERED URBAN. URBAN STYLE DEVELOPMENT. SUBURBAN IS THIS GOLD BROWN COLOR AND THE RURAL IS GREEN. THIS IS WHAT OUR ZONING MAP IS GOING TO TO LOOK LIKE. A LOT OF COLORS GOING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. THE LEGEND IS A LITTLE BIT SMALL. YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO READ, UH, ALL THAT. BUT BASICALLY THE GREEN OUT EAST IS GONNA BE RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD, RURAL AGRICULTURAL, UH, A LOT OF THE YELLOW-ISH GOLD IS SUBURBAN. YOU'LL SEE OUR OVERLAYS ARE DOWN I 35 ACROSS COVELL DOWN POST, UH, ACROSS SECOND STREET. UH, SECOND STREET FROM DOWNTOWN TO I 35 IS DIFFERENT FROM I 35 OUT TO ARCADIA. THAT'S CONSIDERED ROUTE 66. AND THE OUTLINE IN BLUE ON THE EAST SIDE, SOUTHEAST SIDE AROUND THE LAKE ENCOMPASSES THE LAKE ARCADIA OVERLAY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE LAKE ARCADIA OVERLAY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN TITLE 22. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. SO HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER, I KNOW I'VE DESCRIBED THIS PREVIOUSLY WHEN I'VE BEEN UP HERE, CONTEXT AREAS, YOUR ZONING, YOUR OVERLAY, HOW IT ALL, UH, FITS TOGETHER. THIS FLOW CHART GIVES A LOT MORE DETAIL. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS YET. SO THE CONTEXT AREA IS YOUR HIGHEST LEVEL. IT'S GONNA BE EITHER URBAN, SUBURBAN, OR RURAL INSIDE THAT CONTEXT AREA, YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS THAT GO WITH IT. AND THEY ARE UNIQUE TO EACH EACH CONTEXT AREA. THERE'S NOT A ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS THE SAME THROUGHOUT EACH CONTEXT AREA. IF THERE'S AN OVERLAY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARCEL OF LAND, IT ALSO COMES INTO PLAY. AND I'LL GO INTO THOSE OVERLAYS HERE IN A SECOND. AND THEN IN ORDER TO DEVELOP ON A SITE, YOU HAVE YOUR SITE AND USE STANDARDS SUCH AS PARKING, LANDSCAPING, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO THIS IS THREE OF THE FOUR ZONING, SORRY, THREE OF THE FOUR OVERLAID DISTRICTS THAT I WILL GO THROUGH. WE HAVE AN INTERSTATE I 35 DISTRICT, UM, WHICH IS SIMILAR BUT NOT TO THE CURRENT I 35 DISTRICT. THAT IS IN OUR TITLE 22. IT FOCUSES ON REGIONAL TRADE AND COMMERCE, ALLOWING FOR MULTI-STORY MIXED [01:25:01] USE STRUCTURES WITH THE ABILITY TO INCORPORATE TOURIST ATTRACTIONS AND RESIDENTIAL AT THE SAME TIME. ROUTE 66 IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT ROUTE 66 OVERLAY THAT WE HAVE. THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY MY FAVORITE. UM, I WAS REALLY HAPPY THAT WE WERE GOING TO INCORPORATE THIS. IT'S SLIGHTLY CHALLENGING BECAUSE OF THE LAKE PROXIMITY AND THE LAKE OVERLAY THAT IT KIND OF IS STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF. WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE PARTS OF ROUTE 66 IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON THE HISTORIC AND TOURISTIC ASPECTS THAT GO ALONG WITH ROUTE 66. SO HIGH QUALITY DESIGN THAT INCLUDES SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, MAXIMIZING NATURAL LAND FEATURES AND RETAINING THE HISTORICAL CHARACTER OF THE CORRIDOR ALL TIED TOGETHER TO CREATE A VISUALLY, UM, APPEALING ENVIRONMENT. AND THAT'S JUST DOWN ROUTE 66 FROM I 35 OVER TO ARCADIA CORE NETWORK IS THE REST OF THE OVERLAYS. AND I CAN GO BACK HERE REAL QUICK. CORE NETWORK IS THE BRIGHT RED, SO DOWN COVEL, UM, POST BROADWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEN SECOND STREET BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND I 35, OH, LEMME GO BACK. SO CORE NETWORK ALLOWS FOR THE ATTRACTIVE AND COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG THE THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT I 35 OR ROUTE 66. IT BASICALLY CATERS TO THE REGIONAL AND AREA COMMERCE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH IT RESIDES AS THOSE ARE ALL MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THROUGH OUR CITY. THE FOURTH OVERLAY I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE ARCADIA LAKE PROTECTION OVERLAY. UM, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED OVERLAY LAKE ARCADIA. UH, SO ARCADIA IS OUR DRINKING WATER SOURCE, RIGHT? AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. LEMME GO BACK HERE TO THIS SO YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK. SO CURRENTLY THE TITLE 22 LAKE ARCADIA OVERLAY THAT WE OPERATE UNDER TODAY IS FROM SECOND STREET, UH, DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER, UH, JUST NORTH OF MEMORIAL. THIS PROPOSED OVERLAY EXPANDS NORTH ALL THE WAY TO DANFORTH, SO ALMOST A MILE NORTH TO DANFORTH AND THEN IT STOPS. IT CURRENTLY STOPS ON THE EASTERN BORDER AT POST, I BELIEVE MAY MAYBE WEAVES IN AND OUT THERE. AND THIS PROPOSES IT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO WESTMINSTER AND EXTRA MILE EAST. SO THE CUDC VERSION OF THE OVERLAY INCREASES THE STANDARDS FROM THE CURRENT TITLE 22 VERSION, SUCH AS LANDSCAPING AND TREE PRESERVATION, AND INCREASES STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES REQUIRING CONNECTIONS TO CITY SEWER AND IMPLEMENTING A MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE OF 20% TO NAME A FEW. AND THIS IS ALL BECAUSE ARCADIA IS OUR DRINKING WATER SOURCE AND WE WANT TO PROTECT THAT. ANOTHER ONE OF THE MAJOR GOALS FOR THIS UDC IS TO CLEAN UP THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WHILE WE'VE INTERNALLY, INTERNALLY CREATED A NEW DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THE UDC WILL CREATE CLEAR AND CONCISE PATHWAYS FOR DEVELOPMENT TO GET FROM START TO FINISH. INCREASING THE PREDICTABILITY OF THESE PROCESSES HELPS STREAMLINE APPLICATIONS FOR STAFF REVIEW, INCLUDING, UH, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND INPUT AT THE BEGINNING OF PROJECTS AND CREATING CONSISTENCY FOR DEVELOPERS. UH, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE, BUT I'M GONNA DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. SO, SITE PLANS ARE GONNA LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THEY DO CURRENTLY WITH SITE PLANS. WITH THE UDC, YOU'LL HAVE BASICALLY, YOU CAN GO THREE PATHS. THE FIRST PATH IS A SITE PLAN WITHOUT ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, WITHOUT SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. AND IT'S A SITE PLAN THAT ABIDES BY ALL THE CODES IN THE UDC THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. STAFF WILL REVIEW THAT SITE, TYPE OF SITE PLAN WITH ALL THE CRITERIA, UH, SUBMIT OTHER PLANS THAT MIGHT NEED BE NEEDED, LANDSCAPE PARKING, WHATEVER OTHER PLANS ARE NEEDED, AND EITHER STAFF CAN APPROVE OR DENY THAT APPLICATION. IF THEY DENY IT. IT CAN BE APPEALED TO Y'ALL AT PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE APPLICANT CAN RESUBMIT IF A SITE PLAN HAS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. SPECIFIC USE PERMITS ARE A ZONING, UM, AND LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO A ZONING AND ARE REGULATED AT THE STATE STATUTE LEVEL. SO THEY HAVE TO GO ON TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF WHAT STATE STATUTES REQUIRE. IF A SITE PLAN HAS ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS IN A SECOND, STAFF REVIEW, UM, AND REVISIONS OF THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, THEY CAN EITHER APPROVE THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE OR DENY IT. IF THEY DENY IT, IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION OR THEY CAN PURSUE A VARIANCE. UH, IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEN THEY CAN HAVE STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AS A WHOLE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SITE PLANS WITH THE UDC CURRENTLY. UH, AS WE ALL SEE SITE PLANS ARE ONE SIZE FITS ALL IN OUR CURRENT CODE, AND THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK. WE'RE PROPOSING TWO TYPES OF SITE PLAN, WELL, EIGHT TYPES OF SITE PLANS, BUT EITHER A NEW CONSTRUCTION OR AN ALTERATION. SO NEW CONSTRUCTION IS OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTION ON [01:30:01] A VACANT SITE OR A SITE THAT IS STARTING AS GREENFIELD. UH, AND ALTERATION IS THE ALTERATION OF AN EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE SITE, WHETHER THEY'RE TAKING IT DOWN TO THE STUDS OR ALTERING SOMETHING ON THE INSIDE. UM, EACH OF THESE HAS FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS. TYPES, IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL THEM, ZERO THROUGH THREE AND THEY ALL DIFFER. SO I'M GONNA START WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU GUYS SEE IN FRONT OF YOU. FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, THERE ARE FOUR TYPES OF SITE PLANS AND THEY'RE BASED OFF OF THE INTENSITY OF USE. SO THE USE SUBCATEGORY TALKS ABOUT, SO TYPE ZERO IS LOW DENSITY LIVING, TYPE ONE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UH, USE INTENSITY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HIGH DENSITY LIVING GROUP LIVING FACILITIES, UH, AGRICULTURAL CHILDCARE FACILITIES. AND IT KIND OF GOES UP IN INTENSITY. AS YOU GET TO TYPE THREE, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT YOUR MOST INTENSE TYPE OF USES. INDUSTRIAL, UM, MARIJUANA, ENTERTAINMENT, RECREATION WHEN YOU GET TO ALTERATION SITE PLANS. SO ALTERATIONS OF EXISTING EXISTING STRUCTURES. YOU HAVE FOUR TYPES AGAIN, AND THESE ARE BASED ON BUILDING CRITERIA AND SITE CRITERIA. SO BUILDING CRITERIA CRITERIA IS, UH, TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT INCREASES IN GROSS FLOOR AREA, WHICH IS GFA OR HEIGHT. UH, WHETHER THE STRUCTURE IS OLD AS IT GETS HIGHER UP IN YOUR SITE PLAN TYPE. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE TWO IS THE FIRST ONE THAT MENTIONED STRUCTURES 15 TO 24 YEARS OLD. AND TYPE THREE IS THE MOST INTENSE. YOUR STRUCTURE IS OLDER THAN 25 YEARS OLD. SITE CRITERIA ON THE OTHER HAND. AND IT HAS TO FIT INTO BOTH THESE CATEGORIES. BUILDING AND SITE CRITERIA. YOU HAVE FIVE TO 9% SITE DISTURBANCE AND IT KIND OF GOES UP FROM THERE AS YOU GET MORE INTENSE TALKS ABOUT STREET ACCESS AND PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES. AND I KNOW THIS IS LIKE A LOT OF NITTY GRITTY INFORMATION. SO, UH, THIS IS ALL DETAILED OUT IN THE ACTUAL UDC AND, UM, YEAH, SORRY, IT'S THROWING ALL THESE NUMBERS AT YOU. SO SITE PLAN SUBMITTALS, THESE KIND OF LOOK THE SAME, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE YOUR FOUR TYPES IN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IN ALTERATION, AND EACH ONE IS GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS. SO WHILE YOUR TYPE ZERO, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION MIGHT REQUIRE A MINIMAL LANDSCAPE PLAN AND A MINIMAL GRADING AND STORMWATER PLAN, A TYPE THREE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA HAVE FULL-BLOWN LANDSCAPE TO TODAY'S STANDARDS. THE UDC STANDARDS, PARKING PLANS, GRADING AND STORMWATER PLANS, FACADE PLANS, LIGHTING PLANS, UTILITY PLANS, ALL OF THE ABOVE. AGAIN, IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL AND WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT THAT WRONG THAT OUR CURRENT CODE TREATS IT AS ONE SIZE FITS ALL. TALKING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBOR INPUT, UH, WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS MEETINGS WE USED TO HAVE YEARS AGO. UDC ACTUALLY FORMALIZES THIS PROCESS AND FORCES IT TO OCCUR AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE THE APPLICATION IS EVEN SUBMITTED. UH, AS A NEIGHBOR SPOKE EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, THEY WERE NOTIFIED WHEN THEY GOT THE LETTER IN THE MAIL. THIS ACTUALLY, DEPENDING ON THE INTENTS OF THE USE AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S ACTUALLY A CHART IN THE UDC, UM, THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS TO BE HELD WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS WITHIN PROXIMITY BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO FILE THE APPLICATION. THEY HAVE TO MEET AND SUBMIT THE MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, WHILE CHANGES CAN STILL BE MADE. AND THEY ALSO MUST SHOW DOCUMENTATION PROOF THAT THE REQUIRED MEETING WAS ACTUALLY HELD. I DID NOT PUT THE ENTIRE USE TABLE IN THIS PRESENTATION. IT'S HUGE. THIS IS KIND OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. YOU HAVE YOUR USE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG TABLE AND IT GOES ACROSS. YOU HAVE YOUR USE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ONE SHOWS A RESTAURANT. THE DISTRICT IS YOUR ZONING DISTRICT. UH, OUR ZONING DISTRICTS NOW LOOK LIKE, UM, IT'LL HAVE THE CONTEXT AREA WHICH S IS SUBURBAN. SO IT'LL SAY CONTEXT AREA, DASH. AND THEN THE NAME OF THE DISTRICT IS THE, UM, UH, ABBREVIATION. SO SLC IS ACTUALLY SUBURBAN CONTEXT AREA. LOCAL COMMERCIAL PERMISSION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE USE IS ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT. AND THIS IS CONSIDERED A LIMITED USE IN THE SLC DISTRICT, WHICH MEANS IT HAS TO MEET THE STANDARDS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THAT SECTION. 26, 0 2, 0 4 OH C. IT ALSO INCLUDES PARKING STANDARDS RIGHT NEXT TO THE SPECIFIC USE. AND THOSE PARKING STANDARDS ARE MAXIMUMS, NOT MINIMUMS. OUR HOUSING STUDY FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO POINTED OUT THE LACK OF UNITS AND THE LACK OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IN EDMOND. UH, THE UDC WILL HELP BRIDGE THIS GAP BY ALLOWING MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE ZONING [01:35:01] DISTRICTS AND REQUIRED BULK STANDARDS IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE AN ASSORTMENT OF RESIDENTIAL SITE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS HAS ALSO BEEN UPDATED ACROSS THE BOARD. SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE UPDATING ARCHITECTURAL ALLOWANCES. UH, AS DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, NEW ARCHITECTURAL, UM, LIKE DESIGNS AND ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS COME INTO PLAY. AND, UH, SOME OF THOSE WE DON'T THINK ABOUT NOW 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT 'EM. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO JUST LIMIT OURSELVES TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW. WE WANNA ALLOW, UM, NEW INNOVATIVE THINGS TO BE USED AS BUILDING MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURAL, UH, DESIGN ELEMENTS, SCREENING REGULATIONS FOR INCOMING DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND REGULATIONS FOR MAINTAINING SURROUNDING CHARACTER WITH INFILL DEVELOPMENT, ENSURING THAT INFILL IS APPROPRIATE. THIS IS, UM, BASICALLY WE USE WHAT WE'RE CALLING A RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY SLOPE BASED ON HEIGHT AND SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE, WITH HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S, UH, EXISTING THERE. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO READ THIS ENTIRE SLIDE, BUT WE DID UPDATE A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING. SO TO BASICALLY SUMMARIZE IT, WE ARE INCREASING LANDSCAPE STANDARDS ACROSS THE CITY. RIGHT NOW IT'S A REQUIRED 10% LANDSCAPING. WE'RE GOING TO A REQUIRED MINIMUM, 15% LANDSCAPING. WE'VE HAD, UH, A LOT OF APPREHENSION TO THIS INCREASE, BUT HONESTLY IT'S JUST THE CURRENT I 35 STANDARD APPLIED ACROSS THE CITY. WE'VE MODERNIZED STANDARDS FOR LANDSCAPING TO BETTER WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND TO, UH, GAIN THE DESIRED OUTCOME THAT WE WANT WHEN WE SEE ACTUAL PROJECTS ON THE GROUND AND FINISHED, MEANING WE'VE KEPT REGULATIONS THAT HAVE WORKED, WE'VE REEVALUATED AND UPDATED REGULATIONS THAT MAY NOT HAVE WORKED OR ARE NOW OUTDATED. TREE PRESERVATION IS ANOTHER SECTION THAT WE'VE COMBED THROUGH AND UPDATED BIG TIME. THE PROBLEM WITH TREE PRESERVATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT'S AN AFTERTHOUGHT WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROBLEM OR THIS, SORRY. THIS REQUIRES TREE PRESERVATION TO BE IDENTIFIED AND SHOWN BEFORE PLATS ARE SUBMITTED BASED ON THE CONTEXT AREAS, THE TYPE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FORCED AREA PRIORITY LEVEL, THIS IS ALL LAID OUT IN THE UDC IN CHARTS. SO IT'S VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S REQUIRED TO BE SHOWN ON FINAL PLATS AND TREE PROTECTION MUST BE PHYSICALLY INSTALLED ON THE LAND BEFORE ANY TYPE OF LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT CAN BE PULLED. THE URBAN FOREST REPLENISHMENT FUND OR UFRF, MOST OF Y'ALL, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY TEND TO CALL THEM TREE MITIGATION BANKS. THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING AND ADMINISTERING A MITIGATION, UM, THE MITIGATION FOR UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS TO TREES AND IT'S NOT MEANT AS A RIGHT TO REMOVE PROTECTED TREES. THE MULTIPLIER IS A TABLE IN THE UDC BASED ON THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN TREE PRESERVATION BEING CLAIMED AND THE PRIORITY LEVEL OF THE LEFTOVER PERCENTAGE THAT IS NOT CLAIMED. THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT, SO I KNOW IT'S GONNA TAKE EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT ALL WORKS. UH, THE FUND RECEIVED THE FUNDS, RECEIVED FUNDS WITH AN S IN THE UFRF CAN ONLY BE USED FOR URBAN FORESTRY RELATED PURPOSES AND PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. AND ALL OF THIS, AGAIN, IS LAID OUT IN THE UDC. IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY READING THIS SECTION. CONSERVATION SUBDIVISIONS, THESE ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE INTENTIONAL DESIGN TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE CONTEXT OF THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT. IT WORKS REALLY WELL WITH TREE PRESERVATION. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, ALL THOSE GREEN DOTS, WE CAN PRETEND THOSE ARE ALL TREES. SO IT ALLOWS FOR LESS INFRASTRUCTURE, LESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND MORE EFFICIENT PATTERNS FOR THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THE DEVELOPER IS NOT HAVING TO COMPROMISE WHILE STILL TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE SURROUNDING EXISTING ENVIRONMENTS AND INCORPORATING MORE TREES, MORE GREENERY, ESPECIALLY. UM, THOSE AREAS WE WANT TO PROTECT IN EAST EDMOND. THE UDC PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, BUT SOME OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALLY. I MENTIONED ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE EARLIER. IT PROVIDES SITE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY WHILE STILL MEETING OR EXCEEDING THE REQUIRED STANDARDS JUST KIND OF IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. PDS WILL NOW BE USED THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE AND NOT TO BE MODIFYING A SETBACK OR A USE ALLOWANCE. VARIANCES WILL BE EVALUATED BASED ON PROPERTY HARDSHIPS AND HEARD IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTES. WE CURRENTLY DO THIS, THAT'S NOT LIKE A CHANGE. UM, BUT IT'S MORE, UM, BASED ON THE PROPERTY HARDSHIP AND WHAT NOT [01:40:01] THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO VARIOUS SETBACK OR SOME OTHER BULK STANDARD SUBDIVISION WAIVERS ARE SEPARATE FROM VARIANCES AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY DEFINED AS A PROPERTY HARDSHIP, BUT AS AN IMPRACTICALITY THAT PROVIDES AN EQUIVALENT SOLUTION, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OR PROJECT SPECIFIC AND BASED ON UNIQUE IMPACTS A DEVELOPMENT MIGHT FACE. AND I'LL PASS IT BACK TO KEN TO TALK ABOUT THESE NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU. SO THE OVERALL, UM, KIND OF SCHEDULE HERE FOR THE ADOPTION REVIEW OR EVALUATION IS SHOWN HERE. UM, SO TOMORROW WILL BE AT URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION. WE'LL BE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING, UM, URBAN FORESTRY REPLENISHMENT FUND, DIVING INTO SOME DETAILS, GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT. UM, THE WEEK AFTER THAT WE'LL BE AT THE CENTRAL EDMOND URBAN DISTRICT BOARD MEETING, UM, TO KIND OF FOCUS IN ON THE, THEIR, THEIR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, SOME OF THEIR NEW ROLES, UM, THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE UDC. UM, WE'LL BE SHARING THE, UH, THE INFORMATION WITH THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD AS WELL, UM, WITH TWO SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT REVIEW COMMITTEE, ONE ON THE 17TH, ONE ON OCTOBER 1ST, UM, SEPTEMBER 21ST WILL BE STORM WATER DRAINAGE ADVISORY BOARD. SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF PARALLELS BETWEEN HOW THEY HANDLE SOME OF THE REGULATORY THINGS THAT COME IN FRONT OF THEM IN TERMS OF VARIANCES TO HOW THE UDC PROPOSES TO HANDLE VARIANCES THAT COME, UM, THROUGH OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. UM, BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 22ND FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. WE'LL TRY TO, UH, ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT, THAT ARE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS MEETING AT THAT TIME. AND, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE, WE'VE GOT COUNCIL WORKSHOPS PENDING, UM, MAYBE BEGINNING AT THE, THEIR SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN, UM, INTO OCTOBER AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE MOMENT? I KNOW IT'S REALLY JUST MORE OF A INFORMATIONAL PURPOSE AT THIS TIME, SO HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS READY NEXT TIME WE'LL BE SOMETHING WE'LL BE TIME. WE ARE INTERESTED IN QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK AT THIS TIME AS WELL. OKAY. AND WE'LL LIKE, WE MAY NOT HAVE, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO NECESSARILY ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT TO PERFECT DOCUMENT THOSE BRING BACK TO YOU THOROUGH. OKAY. UM, AND WELL RESEARCHED ANSWERS AT A AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO IN THE CASE OF, UH, LIKE THE BRAKES PLUS HOW THAT, UH, SITE PLAN WOULD, WOULD WORK OUT, IS THAT MOST LIKELY THAT WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED IN THE UH, UM, PLANNING DEPARTMENT? SO WHAT WOULD BE THEIR ALTERNATIVE? YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD CONCERNS LIKE THEY HAD TONIGHT, WOULD THAT BE IN A APPEAL PROCESS BECAUSE THEY, IT WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, KNOW IS THAT THE NEXT STEP FOR, UM, FOR NEIGHBORS TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF SOMETHING IS, IS NOT REVIEWED BY US AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AND WE DECIDED THAT IT IT DID OR IT DID NOT FIT, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP FOR THEM TO DO TO MAKE THE APPEAL? HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE AWARE OF THE APPEAL? SURE. SO, AND I GUESS I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHICH APPLICATION IT IS, JUST ANY VARIANCES. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF, THAT WAY WE DON'T BE SPECIFIC ABOUT, SORRY, SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSED. I WAS SO FRESH ON OUR MIND. VARI. YEAH. ANY VARIANCE IN GENERAL, HOW DOES THAT HANDLED WITH WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING? SURE. SO BACKING, BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, TALKING ABOUT LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT, UM, NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY A DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR IN A CASE WHERE YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BACKING UP TO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL BEING THE INCOMING DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL BEING THE EXISTING. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF THE COMMERCIAL AND THE INTENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL. ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S ALL LOAD IN CITY RESIDENTIAL. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT SIDE OF THE CHART RECENTLY. UH, SO IF IT'S A HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL PRODUCT COMING INTO, UH, BACKING UP TO A RESIDENTIAL, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM, I BELIEVE, OF TWO TO THREE MEETINGS THAT NEED TO BE HELD WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN SUBMIT THE PROJECT. SO IS THAT KIND OF GOING BACK WHAT WE DID A FEW YEARS BACK WHERE WE HAD THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION MEETINGS? SO THOSE ARE STILL DIFFERENT. SO THOSE HAPPENED AFTER THE PROJECT HAD ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED. GOTCHA. AND IT WAS UNDER REVIEW. SO THIS ALLOWS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO INTO THE PROJECT BEFORE IT'S EVEN SUBMITTED BEFORE WE, SO HOW DO YOU VERIFY THOSE HAVE HAPPENED? OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION DO YOU GUYS REQUIRE? WE HAVE, UM, TO SHOW THAT, THAT OR THAT'S STILL IN THE WORKS? YEAH, WE HAVE MORE ABOUT THE EXACT DOCUMENTATION. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY SUBMIT WITH THEIR APPLICATION, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO STAND UP HERE AND BE LIKE, YES, WE MET ON THIS DATE, THIS DATE, THIS DATE. UM, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS WHETHER [01:45:01] THAT'S LIKE A SIGN IN SHEET WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY SIGNED IN AND WE CAN PROVE THAT YES, THEY DID ACTUALLY HOLD THESE MEETINGS ON THESE COUPLE OF DATES. AND AND THAT'S PRIOR TO SUBMISSION? THAT'S CORRECT. VERSUS NOW, YES. IT'S AFTER SUBMISSION THEN PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT IT. YES. YES. SO THE, SO THAT WOULD BE UP TO, TO THE DEVELOPER TO UH, TO INITIATE THAT THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. ALRIGHT. SO AT THAT POINT, IF THEY'VE DONE ALL THAT AND THEY SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION, UH, A COMMERCIAL BACKING UP TO RESIDENTIAL IS GONNA HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, SCREENING REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS, UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S A CHART IN THE UDC 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF THAT USE. SO IT COULD BE, UM, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UH, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH LIKE A FENCE, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH LIKE A MASONRY WALL, A BERM. IT'S, IT'S LAID OUT IN, BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF THE USE. THEY ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY SLOPE, WHICH IS KIND OF A SETBACK BASED ON THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND THE HEIGHT, UH, I'M SORRY, THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BACKING UP TO IT. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SETBACK THAT'S BEING IMPOSED BASED ON, UM, THE STRUCTURE THAT'S COMING IN. SO THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL THOSE STANDARDS WHICH ARE HIGHER THAN ANY OF THE STANDARDS WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SUCH AS A RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY SLOPE OR REQUIRED SCREENING, UH, BASED ON DIFFERENT USES BACKING UP TO ONE ANOTHER RIGHT NOW. AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THOSE IF THEY CANNOT COMPLY AND THEY'RE, OR THEY'RE LIKE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA DO THIS, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS TO ASK FOR THAT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY NOW WE'RE ADDING STUFF BEFORE THE SUBMISSION, WHICH IS FINE, BUT FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, ARE WE SAVING TIME OR IS IT EQUAL TO THE MORE MEETINGS BEFORE SUBMISSION AND THEN THE LACK OF MEETINGS AFTER SUBMISSION IS WHAT DOES I MEAN? RIGHT. SO HOW'S THAT FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT GOING, I GUESS, I MEAN, I HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS OFTEN AND, AND COMMUNITY PEOPLE THOUGH THAT TIMING OF ADMIN TAKES A LONG TIME. SURE. UM, SO ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT OR HOW KIND, HOW DOES THIS SOLVE THAT? OR DOES IT, ARE WE MAKING IT LONGER OR NO. SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW MANY MEETINGS THEY HAVE TO HAVE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE MEETINGS. AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE INTENSITY OF THE USE AND WHETHER THEY BACK UP. IF IT'S COMMERCIAL BACKING UP TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BACKING UP TO INDUSTRIAL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MEETINGS. BUT IF IT'S, UH, COMMERCIAL BACKING UP TO RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S WHEN THOSE MEETINGS ARE GONNA GET, UH, IMPLEMENTED. AND IT'S TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON HOW QUICKLY THEY WANT TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS. YOU CAN HAVE 'EM, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE LIKE SET REGULATIONS ON HOW QUICKLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE 'EM OR IF YOU CAN HAVE 'EM BACK TO BACK TO BACK ON DIFFERENT DAYS. THAT'S NOT DETAILS WE'VE WORKED OUT YET. BUT, UH, ONCE YOU HAVE THEM AND YOU SUBMIT, IT GOES BACK TO WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT WE'VE CREATED. UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY REDUCED OUR TIMELINE TURNAROUNDS FOR SITE PLANS AND PLATS. SO IT, THE UD C'S WORKING IN TANDEM WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, SUCH AS CREATING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A TIME LIMITATION OR TIME MINIMUM BETWEEN THE TIME THEY HAD THEIR LAST MEETING AND SUBMISSION. SURE. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A YEAR AGO HAVING THREE MEETINGS AND A YEAR FROM NOW THEY'RE SUBMITTING, SAYING MM-HMM WELL I DID THAT. NOW IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT. THANK YOU. ANY, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS? VEC AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SO, ALL RIGHT. OH, WE HAVE IN PUBLIC CON, IS THIS A PUBLIC, THIS IS NOT A, YOU'RE ATTORNEY? I THINK IT'S, IT'S ON THE, IT'S, I IT'S ON I OR J. OKAY. OKAY. POINT OF CLARITY. YES. WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE PUBLIC CONVERSATION ON THIS ONE. SO, UH, ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK? UM, IN REGARDS TO THE AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. TODD. OB 1 0 4 HANOVER DRIVE, EDMOND. UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT, HEY, TODD, BE SURE YOU DRESS THIS PLACE. THE PARKING SPACES, UH, PROPOSED WAS GOING TO BE A MAXIMUM, NOT A MINIMUM. AND THAT TO ME SEEMED LIKE A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE WOULD DEFINE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR DIFFERENT OCCUPANCIES. AND TO GO UP THERE AND SAY THAT, THAT'S A MAXIMUM NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, TO ME SUGGESTS, WELL, MAYBE I DON'T HAVE ANY. UH, THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO ASK IS, UM, YOU PROBABLY HAVE BEEN IN THESE MEETINGS YOURSELVES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T AGREE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THINGS DON'T GET DOCUMENTED AND PEOPLE COME HOME AND THEY THINK THEY'VE GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT, AND THEN A COUPLE WEEKS LATER, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S SOMETHING ELSE COMES ACROSS. AND SO IF THE CITY'S GONNA REQUIRE THESE MEETINGS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE PARTY TO THOSE MEETINGS. THEY SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY THERE THAT CAN HELP DOCUMENT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND TO HELP, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEWHAT OF A, A PRE-NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS, AND THERE COULD BE SOME OWNERS WHO WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT YOU TO BUILD [01:50:01] A LAKE. WELL, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME WAY TO ASSURE THAT THERE'S SOME ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNERS AS WELL AS SOME PROTECTION FOR THE CITIZENS BECAUSE, UH, I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HOW WOULD THEY EVEN KNOW WHO TO CONTACT? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT PROCESS IS THERE FOR OUT THERE THAT IS ASSURED THAT THEY'RE CONNECTING TO SOMEBODY? AND IS THAT THE RIGHT PERSON TO BE TALKING TO? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN SORT OF LOOKING, MY NAME'S DAN O'NEILL. UH, I'VE BEEN SORT OF LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. ALL I HEAR IS HOW THE, HOW IT'S GOING TO DO AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE POLICIES ARE. BUT WHEN IT REALLY GETS DOWN TO IT, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND DO WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW? THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. UH, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S TIME. IF WE'RE GETTING READY TO APPROVE IT, SURELY YOU GOT MORE DETAILS THAN JUST HER SUMMARY OF, OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS. YEAH. I, I MEAN MY IMPRESSIONS ARE STILL COMING UP WITH THOSE ITEMS AND WILL BE HEARD THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT, THE FEEDBACK FROM ALL THESE COMMITTEES. SO YEAH. AND THERE'S STILL MULTIPLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S WHAT, SIX PUBLIC SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS RIGHT HERE STILL. SO, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT IS WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT COMING IN HERE AND ASKING QUESTIONS BASED ON THIS AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT, WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS DOESN'T HELP YOU A DAMN BIT. EXCUSE ME, MY FRENCH, UH, CLEAR CUTTING. I DON'T KNOW THAT TREE PRESERVATION AND CLEAR CUTTING. HAVE WE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM IN THIS ONE? UH, I SAW ALSO ON, I THOUGHT PAGE 22 WHERE YOU HAD A BELL AND YOU HAD NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN CONCERNS AND YOU HAD A, A LINE DRAWN THROUGH THE BELL. AND, UH, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF SENSITIVE BORDERS ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE RETAINED IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, OVERLAY PROGRAM. THE OTHER PART IS, IS WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN. WE USED TO HAVE A PLAN FOR OUR CITY ON HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPMENT. OUR THEORY WAS AT THE TIME THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO DEVELOP IF THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED NEXT TO IT. WE'VE DONE AWAY WITH THE PLAN BECAUSE IT WAS TOO BUSY. BUT, UM, THE OVERLAY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT KIND OF A DEF DEFINED, UH, INFORMATION. AND, UH, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING IN WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS OVERLAY HERE. THE THIRD THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS WE HAD AN ORDINANCE PASSED. WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL PLAT ANYMORE IN OUR CITY. UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET THROUGH A PROJECT AND YOU SAY YOU GET INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEVELOPERS IN CONTROL FOR THE FIRST 50 HOMES OR 50% OF THE HOMES, AND THEN IT TURNED OVER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S A FINAL PLAT THEN, BECAUSE UP UNTIL THAT DAY, THE DEVELOPER CAN DO ANY DANG THING. HE WANTS TO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE CAN CHARGE IT TO THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE IT DONE. UH, WE NEED A FINAL PLAT IN OUR TOWN, OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL, UH, REZONED, UH, LOTS IN A PLATTED NEIGHBORHOOD AND PUT IN OPEN DISPLAY STORAGE. AND THEY DID IT, UH, INTENTIONALLY JUST TO PROVE THAT THEY COULD DO IT. THEY PASSED THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWED THEM TO CHANGE THE, THE LOT SIZE, DO LOT SPLITS, DO ANYTHING THEY WANT TO, TO A FINAL PLAT. AND THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. THAT ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE REPEALED. AND I, WE INTEND TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY SAID. AND THERE'S A DRAFT RUNNING AROUND FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT, AND THEY HAVE, AND THEY'VE MADE COMMENTS ON IT AND THEY'VE SUPPOSEDLY HAD SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE ON IT. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE. ALSO, I FILED A REQUEST FOR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION BY THE TIME I FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET TO IT. I'VE LOST INTEREST IN IT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST, THINGS HAVE CHANGED. BUT THE FREE, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW FOR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS IS, IS ALL ELECTRONIC. AND IF YOU'RE NOT A WHIZ KID ON THE COMPUTER, YOU CAN'T FIND OUT THE ANSWERS. AND I, I WAS THERE WHEN WE PASSED THAT LAW THE FIRST TIME IN THE NATION, AND I REPRESENTED MY COURT, UH, BUSINESS OF MY TINKER AIR FORCE BASE ON FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. I KNOW WHAT IT SAID, AND THIS SEEMS LIKE A REAL SLICK WAY OF [01:55:01] NOT NOT PROVIDING THE INFORMATION, BUT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW THAT I, I DISLIKE THIS. IT'S, IT'S, IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANYTHING SATISFACTORY OUT OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM 'EM BECAUSE IT IS JUST NOT WORKING THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT? THERE WE GO. SORRY. THANK YOU RONA CANARA AGAIN, JUST ALONG THE SAME LINES, I JUST THOUGHT I JUST MENTIONED YEAH. UH, THE TIMELINES FOR, UH, WHAT THE PROPOSED, LIKE Y'ALL MENTIONED. UM, CAN YOU PULL THAT MIC DOWN? I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. SO FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION, SO JUST DEFINITELY I KNOW YOU'LL BE THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS FOR FAMILIES, PEOPLES AND VACATIONS, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, VISITS TO OCCUR, UH, AS PROPOSED FROM THE BUILDER, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION SOMETIMES DURING WEEKS TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A MONTH. SO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THAT SPREAD. THERE ARE MULTIPLE OF, BETWEEN THOSE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS THAT THERE'S PROPOSED AND JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A VARIETY OF SPREAD THERE TO HANDLE WHEN SOME PEOPLE MAY BE GONE ON VACATION, THEY WON'T GET THE NOTIFICATION TIME THEY GET BACK, THEY MISS EVERYTHING. SO I, I KNOW Y'ALL BE THINKING ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE THAT WOULD CONCERN EVERYBODY. UM, AND THEN, UM, THE SAMPLES MAYBE FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE NOT WELL EDUCATED IN THESE AREAS. UM, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE NOT LOOKED ANY OF THIS, I'M NOT PART OF THIS BEFORE, BUT SOME GREAT SAMPLES OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, OF SOME VARIETY OF THE, OF HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT AND MAKE CHANGES. UM, YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE IT IN THERE. LIKE I SAID, I'VE NOT LOOKED AT THIS, I DO NOT KNOW, BUT SAMPLES, UH, IN EASY FORMAT PLEASE. AND, AND ALONG THE LINES, THE ELDERLY, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT TECHNICAL, THAT ARE ELDERLY, THEY'RE NOT LIKELY TO SEE NOTIFICATIONS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET EMAILS ALWAYS, BUT THOSE ARE HOMEOWNERS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AS WELL. HOW TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM AND JUST MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE AND THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME? ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FROM OUR STAFF, CITY STAFF WISHES TO SPEAK? I JUST WANT TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT THE, UH, THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE DRAFT CODE IS AVAILABLE ONLINE. THERE'S A LINK IN THE AGENDA TO THE CODE. SO ANYONE WHO IS CURIOUS TO LOOK AT THOSE DETAILS IS WELCOME TO, UH, GET IT IN THAT WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONER ER? YES. HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN ONLINE NOW? IT'S BEEN ON QUITE, THE QUESTION WAS HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN OUT THERE ON FOR PUBLIC VIEWING? SO THE, UM, LET'S SEE. WE START, WE HAD OPEN HOUSES ON THE CODE BACK IN MARCH, SO I THINK IT BECAME AVAILABLE THEN. THE VERSION THAT THEY'RE NOW IS, UH, REFLECTS CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AS A RESULT OF THAT PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT PERIOD. IT'S, UM, I BELIEVE THE DATE ON THE CURRENT VERSION IS, UM, SEPTEMBER 2ND. AND THAT VERSION WAS INITIALLY PUT OUT, WAS PUT OUT AFTER MULTIPLE YEARS OF MEETINGS, COMMITTEES TO PUTTING IT TOGETHER, WORKING FORWARD, CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU MR. BRIAN. ANY LAST CHANCE FOR COMMENTS FROM US? OKAY. UM, YEP. AND THIS ONE IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR A VOTE, SO WE'LL MOVE ON DOWN THE AGENDA. LOOKING FOR [5. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the Planning Commission on Planning Commission related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. All remarks must be directed to the Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with Section I of the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and upon request at City Hall. Please note that members of the Planning Commission cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.] MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE. LOOKING FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED MATTERS, NOT ON THE AGENDA OR SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL REMARKS MUST BE DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING, ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS, AND MUST OTHERWISE BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY RULES AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? COME ON UP. TAYLOR WILSON. UM, I, BASED ON TWO WEEKS AGO AND TODAY, I AS A COMMITTEE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ASK FOR MORE DETAILS. IN BOTH OF THOSE MEETINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS THAT THERE WAS LACK OF CLARITY IN LIKE TODAY'S DISCUSSION. NOT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, BUT MORE OF THE FORMAT. IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO DETERMINE RELATIVE TO ZONING, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE A BULLET POINT ON THE MEMO THAT WENT OUT THAT SAYS, FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYS WE CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE OF THIS. IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN IN THE MEMO. SAME THING RELATIVE TO SEWER UTILIZATION. I SAW IT ON THE PRESENTATION THERE. FOR UDC, IS IT GONNA BE A REQUIREMENT TO HOOK UP TO SEWER JUST LIKE THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT? YES OR NO? BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TO PUT IN THE MEMO THAT SAYS CERTAIN NUMBER OF LOTS ARE NOT GONNA BE HOOKED UP TO SEWER BECAUSE THERE'S A HILL. AND SO I WOULD PUT THE COUNT IN THERE SO THAT IT'S MORE CLARITY FOR YOU [02:00:01] TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS. MORE DETAILS IN THOSE MEMOS WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE LESS FRUITFUL QUESTIONS, UM, AND PROVIDE MORE CLARITY FOR THE STAFF, FOR THE CITIZENS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER? CITIZENS' COMMENTS? HEARING NONE CITIZENS' COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR OR MEMBERS? I HAVE NONE. ANY COMMISSIONERS OR, ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE THOSE COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND AND A SECOND BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.