[1. Call to Order of the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
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WE'RE GONNA START OUT TONIGHT WITH ITEM TWO.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGN UP IN
[2. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the City Hall lobby. Please note that members of the City Council cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]
PERSON WHEN THEY GOT HERE.I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WHEN YOU COME FORWARD UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT YOU'LL DIRECT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE CHAIR AND THAT YOU ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
SO WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP.
RAJESH, VIN GALA, ARE YOU HERE THIS EVENING? WELL, THAT MAKES THAT EASY.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.
APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.
WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING THAT'S
[3. Appointments and Reappointments:]
APPOINTMENT OF DEREK DON VELEZ TO THE COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD, EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2026.TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER 31ST, 2029.
CAN I GET A MOTION, MAYOR FOR A SECOND? I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
NOW ON ITEM FOUR, CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS AS WE GO THROUGH THESE TONIGHT, UM, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK ON ONE OF THESE ISSUES, PLEASE DO NOT REPEAT WHAT OTHERS HAVE ALREADY SAID.
UM, WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THIS MEETING MOVING AT AT A REASONABLE PACE.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ITEMS THOUGH, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS FOUR, B, C, D, G, AND H TO OCTOBER 26TH.
MOTION TO CONTINUE AGENDA ITEMS. B, C, D, E, AND H.
AND TO WHICH MEETING? OCTOBER 26TH.
WE DID THAT SIMPLY DUE TO A LACK OF INFORMATION AND DATA THAT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED ON SOME OF THESE, UH, ITEMS. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE 'EM OUT ONE MEETING, SEE IF WE CAN'T GATHER A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND LET STAFF FINISH THEIR WORK.
[A. Case No. U26-00004; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Vitality Massage and Shiatsu, Located at 3409 S. Broadway, Suite 611. (Maglio; Ward 3)]
WE'RE NOW DEALING WITH ITEM FOUR A, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 0 4 PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VITALITY SPA AND SHIATSU.LOCATED AT 34 0 9 SOUTH BROADWAY, SUITE SIX 11.
UM, THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATED IN THE SHOPPING CENTER SHOWN HERE AT THE, UH, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 33RD AND BROADWAY.
THIS IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS WORKING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS.
THESE STANDARDS APPROVED IN ORDINANCE 4 0 8 6 ON MAY 26TH, 2026 REQUIRE THERAPIST LICENSE TO BE CLEARLY POSTED AND PROHIBITED OPAQUE TINT ON DOORS AND WINDOWS FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS LOCATION HAS PROVIDED EVIDENCE OF COMPLIANCE WITH THESE STANDARDS AT THEIR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANY COMMENTS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SECOND AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[E. Case No. U26-00017; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for a Massage Therapy Business Located at 1801 East 15th Street. (Byrd; Ward 1)]
ZERO.WE'RE NOW ON FOUR E CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 7 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MASSAGE THERAPY BUSINESS LOCATED AT 1801 EAST 15TH STREET.
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YES, SIR.DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? ANYONE ON THE AUDIENCE CARE TO COMMENT ON THIS ONE? COUNSEL, COMMENT QUESTIONS.
SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE PROVIDED INPUT ON THE PROCESS, UH, AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THIS.
AND SO I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK MS. BIRD FOR HER INPUT, UH, THAT SHE PROVIDED TO ME ON THAT.
AND IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[F. Case No. U26-00018; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Elements Massage, Whose Two Locations are at 1321 North Bryant Avenue and 2133 West 15th Street. (Hazzard-Hatchel; Citywide)]
FIVE ZERO.ITEM FOUR F CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 1 8 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ELEMENTS MASSAGE WHOSE TWO LOCATIONS ARE AT 1321 NORTH BRYAN AVENUE AND 2133 WEST 15TH STREET.
ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MR. BRYANT ON THIS ONE? NO SIR.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES SIR.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL.
SECOND MAYOR, I GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[I. Case No. PR26-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Preliminary Plat for Black Oaks II at Iron Horse Ranch, Located Southeast of Sorghum Mill Road and Coltrane Road. (Staab Holdings LLC; Ward 2)]
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM FOUR I CASE NUMBER PR TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR BLACK OAKS TWO AT IRON HORSE RANCH LOCATED SOUTHEAST SOGA MILL ROAD AND COLTRANE ROAD.AND WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM STAFF TO CONTINUE THIS TO OCTOBER 26TH.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[J. Case No. Z26-00016; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4100 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located on the East Side of Sooner Road, North of East 2nd Street, from "G-A" General Agricultural to "E-1" Retail General Commercial and Providing an Effective Date. (Marathon Rentals, LLC; Ward 2)]
WE'RE DOWN ON FOUR J.CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 16 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 0 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SUN ROAD, NORTH OF EAST SECOND STREET FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO E ONE RETAIL GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MR. BRYAN? YES, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING.
SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES.
MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOONER NORTH OF SECOND NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH AND EAST OR UNDEVELOPED I 35.
RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED FOR E ONE COMMERCIAL USES AND IS AND IS DEVELOPED AS AN OFFICE TO THE WEST ACROSS SOONER IS ZONED AND DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A BY RIGHT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES.
THE ADMIN PLAN CATEGORIZED THIS AREA AS I 35 AND THE REQUESTED DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
TODD MCKINNIS FOR THE APPLICANT.
I JUST ASSUMED YOU WERE GONNA SPEAK SO WELL.
I WAS TRYING TO BREAK THE STREAK.
SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY AS MR. BRYAN SAID, THIS IS COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH I 35 CORRIDOR.
THE LAND TO THE NORTH OF IT IS ODOT RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT WILL CHANGE MOSTLY DRAMATICALLY AS ODOT DOES THE COAL TRAIN THE DANFORTH BRIDGE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A VERY NARROW SPOT.
MY CLIENT HAS THE LAND AND JUST PREPARING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M MARY MERRITT AND I, UH, AM THE CHAIR OF THE HOA IN CLAYTON POND AND, UM, HAVE SPOKEN ALSO WITH OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN TUSCAN.
OUR CONCERN IS THE WAY THAT THIS PROPERTY LAYS OUT AND I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND I HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE SOONER ROAD FROM DANFORTH TO SECOND STREET AND EXPERIENCE THAT AREA AND THE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY ALL PARTIES.
AND WE ARE NOT MERELY CONCERNED HOMEOWNERS.
THIS COMMERCIAL SITE BORDERS, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND BEING PART OF THAT PROCESS GIVES HOMEOWNERS COOPERATIVE LEVERAGE.
AND I HOPE THAT THE GENTLEMAN WILL AND THE CITY WILL ENCOURAGE THAT THE HOAS AND THE DEVELOPER GET TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS OPTIMUM SITUATION FOR ALL PARTIES.
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I WANNA THANK EACH OF YOU FOR SPENDING SOME TIME WITH SOME NEIGHBORS OF MINE IN CLAYTON POND AND TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES THE CODE REQUIRES TRANSITIONAL BUFFERS, AND SO THIS PROPERTY IS TO BE DEVELOPED IN SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU'VE BEEN ON SOONER.IF YOU HAVE A FRIEND IN CLAYTON POND, THE NOISE LEVEL FROM I 35 IS ALMOST DEAFENING AT TIMES, AND THAT'S 24 7.
SO WHEN TREE TREES ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE FORESTRY DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF EDMOND, BUT WE EXPECT THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL SUBMIT A, SOME KIND OF A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME INPUT ON.
AND THEN THE HOMEOWNERS ALSO LIVING ADJACENT WILL EXPECT ASSURANCES FOR SOME KIND OF APPROACH TO NOISE CONTROL.
UM, IF YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO SUBMIT, ADMIT TO US, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT SHARE WITH OUR BOARD MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
AND, UM, IT'S NOT NEWS AND I'M TRYING TO BE KIND RANDOM TO GET THE FIVE MIN THE THREE MINUTES IN, BUT THERE'S A SLIGHT DRAINAGE PROBLEM SOMETIMES IN CLAYTON POND AND WE WANT TO HOPE THAT WHATEVER IS PUT THERE WILL NOT CREATE FURTHER PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
SO IF YOU TRAVEL SOONER, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TURKEYS AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DEER.
SO WE WOULD WELCOME HELP FROM STAFF AND, AND, UM, HELP US WITH BEST PRACTICES FOR THE WILDLIFE CON, UH, CORRIDOR THAT IS THERE NOW AND HELP US MAINTAIN NATIVE VEGETATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.
AND I'VE READ AND BEEN AWARE SINCE BECOMING AN EVIDENT RESIDENT OF EDMOND ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, THAT OUTCOMES FOR ZONING AND REZONING IS MOST SUCCESSFUL WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO WILL MEET WITH THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES AND WE WELCOME FORMAL MEETINGS.
WE WELCOME THEM TO CLAYTON POND AND WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE'D TALK ABOUT SOUND MITIGATION AREAS.
TRAFFIC LOAD OVER 160 FAMILIES HAVE MADE THEIR LARGEST LIFETIME INVESTMENT IN HOMES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS 2.5 ACRE DEVELOPMENT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE ASKING THAT YOUR ZONING DECISIONS PROTECT THE VALUE AND THE LIVABILITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ARE ASKING THE PLANNING STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER TO INCLUDE US IN THAT REVIEW PROCESS.
I AND OTHERS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ALREADY CALL THIS AREA HOME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THE TIME THAT YOU GIVE US AS A CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE TIME TO ENGAGE WITH YOU AS WE ALL WORK TO GROW.
EDMOND COOPERATIVELY, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE STAND READY AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING MODELED FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT STARTS.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS? MR. MCINNIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? I'D BE HAPPY TO.
UH, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 32 YEARS AND WE PUT SIGNS UP ON PROPERTY AND THIS IS THE ONLY PROJECT I'D EVER RECEIVED A SINGLE PHONE CALL WITH MY NAME AND NUMBER ON THE SIGN.
I SPOKE WITH THREE RESIDENTS ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, PROVIDED SOME EMAILS WITH SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE IDEA OF THE PLAN WAS FOR THIS SITE.
AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
THIS IS A ZONING DECISION, AS YOU KNOW, RELATED TO WHAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE WITH THIS PARCEL.
THE ISSUES THAT WE JUST BROUGHT UP ARE SPECIFICALLY SITE PLAN ISSUES.
THE SAME NOTICE WILL HAPPEN, THE SAME INVITATION BY ME TO COME OUT TO THEIR HOMES AS I'VE DONE BEFORE AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS OR FOR THEM TO COME TO MY OFFICE.
I'LL CERTAINLY FACILITATE THAT.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE I 35 CORRIDOR IS THE HIGHEST STANDARDS WE HAVE IN THE OKLAHOMA, IN THE EDMOND METRO WHEN IT COMES TO LANDSCAPE AND ANY OTHER DELIVERABLES AS PART OF A VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING UNIQUE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A PUD, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY SORT OF MODIFIED ZONING OR USE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MOVE THE NEXT STEP THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH EDMOND'S COMP PLAN FOR IT TO BE E ONE ZONING.
BUT I'LL HAND OUT MY CARDS AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME SEE ME OR TALK TO ME ABOUT IT, AND IT WILL CERTAINLY BE INVOLVED IN THE LAND, IN THE SITE PLANNING AND IF THERE'S PLATING OF THIS PARCEL.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL COMMENTS? I'VE BEEN OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES, WALKED IT, DROVE IT.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PIECE OF LAND AT THE, NOT THE SPEED AT WHICH WE'RE MOVING ALONG, BUT I DO THINK THE NEIGHBORS OUGHT TO HAVE A, A CHAT WITH YOU AND THE DEVELOPER, THE PROPOSED BUYER OR THE BUYER, THE OWNER.
UH, I KNOW IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA GET TO IT FROM I 35.
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I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COME BACK AS A, A ZONING AND A SITE PLAN IF POSSIBLE.I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK AGAIN, AND I KNOW YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD AT IT AND YOU'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO DO IT, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS OUT THERE.
UH, THE TIME AND EXPENSE RELATED TO THIRD PARTY ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, AND LAND DESIGNERS TO DO A SITE PLAN IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT.
WE KNOW THAT CAPITAL FOLLOWS CONSISTENCY AND PREDICTABILITY.
WE KNOW OUR COMP PLAN PROVIDES FOR THIS TO BE THE SPECIFIC USE ON WHAT IS OUR BUSIEST CORRIDOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO IF I CAN'T HAVE ASSURANCES THAT I CAN EVEN DO WHAT'S ALLOWED IN OUR COMP PLAN, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THE APPLICANT TO GO AND EXTEND THE MONEY FOR THE IDEA OF WHAT MIGHT BE THE SECOND STEP OF A PROCESS.
THAT IS ALSO INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
THE APPLICATION FOR THE E ONE ZONING WAS GONNA BE WHAT IT IS I'VE HEARD FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF FROM THIS WONDERFUL GROUP THAT WE DO NOT WANNA DO PUDS, ESPECIALLY ON SMALL PARCELS.
AND SO HERE WE ARE WITH THE ZONING APPLICATION THAT'S COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE CONTINUALLY OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND I'VE ALREADY SAID I'LL HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE EVENTUAL VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE AND THE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS.
AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COUNCILMAN MOORE.
BUT THE IDEA OF ASKING US TO COME BACK WITH EITHER A DIFFERENT USE, WHICH AGAIN MIGHT EVEN INCLUDE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT OR A PUD OR A SITE PLAN, SEEMS INCONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO FROM LAND USE IN EDMOND.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS IN CLAYTON POND.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE GOT COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF THEM.
UH, OUR USE IS NOT INCONSISTENT POTENTIALLY WITH WHAT THE COLD IRON AND SUNS AND BAGOT AND LEMKE DENTAL OFFICE TO THE SOUTH.
AND SO THE IDEA OF OUR SITE ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGING THAT, KNOWING THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC COMING AS FAR AS MODIFICATION OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT WITHOUT SAYING WE WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT THESE RULES THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS ESTABLISHED.
AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TAKE THIS FIRST STEP THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMP PLAN.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ANY IDEA WHEN YOUR CLIENT IS PLANNING ON DEVELOPING? HE HAS NO IDEA.
HE JUST WON THE RIGHT TO BUY THE GOLD DOME BANK AT 23RD AND KLAS.
AND SO HE IS GOT A LOT ON HIS PLATE RIGHT NOW.
UH, HE'S IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS.
I WOULD IMAGINE YOU'RE TALKING YEARS, NOT MONTHS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THE RETAIL PATTERNS ARE GONNA CHANGE, OBVIOUSLY WITH LEGACY HAPPENING AT COVAL I 35.
AND SO THE IDEA OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH ODOT, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DESIGNED AS CLOVER LEAF ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DANFORTH THAT WILL HAVE THAT BE A FULL FOUR-WAY INTERCHANGE AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE EIGHT YEAR PLAN FOR ODOT.
SO I DO NOT BELIEVE MR. HILL HAS ANY PLANS TO DO ANYTHING IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
MATTER OF FACT, I'M SURE OF THAT.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL AGAIN, I I HEARD EVERY WORD YOU SAID.
I I AGREE WITH SOME AND DISAGREE WITH OTHERS.
I DO THINK THAT SOME TIME HAVING A DISCUSSION WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
UH, THAT SAID, I KNOW YOUR VIEWS THE OPPOSITE.
UH, THIS IS A TRICKY THING, THAT PIECE OF LAND.
I, AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST MONTH.
UH, LEMME LET ME OFFER THIS IF I COULD.
COUNCILMAN MOORE, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT THAT DIALOGUE TO INVOLVE AS FAR AS ISSUES TO BE MODIFIED WITH THIS APPLICATION? OR WOULD IT BE? WE THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT APPLICATION BECAUSE IF YOU THINK THERE'S A DIALOGUE THAT CAN HAPPEN.
I DON'T MIND COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
MR. HILL WAS GRACIOUS THE LAST TIME AND NOT TO BE A JACK WEED HERE, BUT NOBODY HAD A SINGLE CONVERSATION WITH ME RELATED TO THE RESIDENCE IN THE TWO WEEKS SINCE I CONTINUED IT LAST TIME.
THE IDEA ABOUT COMING BACK WITH A DIFFERENT APPLICATION OR A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE REALLY WELL RECEIVED BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADMIN PLAN.
BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO INTRODUCE MR. HILL WITH THE NEIGHBORS SO THEY HAVE A FACE WITH A NAME, HAVE A CELL NUMBER FOR SOMEONE TO CHAT WITH.
IF YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO OFFER THAT.
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THIS ISN'T OUR FIRST CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE SORTS OF THINGS.YOU'VE 99.9% OF THE TIME, YOU'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS AND DONE THAT.
AND I THINK I HAVE TOO, BUT I, I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S A, A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE, THE NEIGHBORS AT TUSCANY AND CLAYTON AND THE DEVELOPER, YOU OTHERS.
UH, I, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I MEAN IT, UH, THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE WITH.
IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE AND IT'S DIFFICULT AND IT'S FRIGHTENING, UH, AT TIMES.
AND, UH, I THINK WHEN, WHEN I WAS ASKED, WELL, WHAT'S GONNA GO THERE? I SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT ABOUT THE STAND OF TREES ON THE WEST SIDE.
WHAT ABOUT A SHARED DRIVE WITH THE BUILDING, UH, SOUTH OF THE LAND? I DON'T THINK THAT'LL WORK.
UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, AND I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A ZONING MATTER I DO, BUT EVERY DECISION WE MAKE HAS CONSEQUENCES.
AND EVERY DECISION WE MAKE HAS AN EFFECT ON PEOPLE'S LIVES.
AND, UH, YOUR CLIENT IS IMPORTANT.
THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE ARE IMPORTANT.
AND I'VE SAID FOR YEARS, AND YOU KNOW IT, AND I THINK YOU AGREE WITH ME, THAT TALKING ABOUT THINGS NEVER HURTS.
YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN ACCOMMODATING TO THAT.
UH, SOMETIMES THINGS TURN OUT WELL, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, BUT I DO BELIEVE DISCUSSION IS HELPFUL, UH, ABOUT WHAT HE MIGHT DO.
NOW I KNOW HE IS GOT THE GOLD DOME BANK AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
THE FOLKS AT CLAYTON POND DON'T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT GOLD DOME BANK.
THEY CARE ABOUT THIS PIECE OF LAND.
UH, THE ONLY ONE THING I WOULD JUST ADD FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS IS IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURAL TODAY AND NOBODY'S GONNA DO THIS.
BUT BY RIGHT, THAT LAND COULD BE CLEARED TOMORROW.
THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IF IT'S ZONED E ONE THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE AND NOT THAT ANYBODY'S DOING THAT.
THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A WHEAT FIELD TO ME.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A WHEAT FIELD FOR IT TO BE ZONED AGRICULTURE.
AND IT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S ZONED TODAY.
WELL, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND CUT DOWN EVERY TREE.
NO, BUT I WELL YOU SAID THERE'S CONSEQUENCES TO EVERY DECISION.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL NEGATIVE.
AND SOMETIMES THAT'S THE PERCEPTION AND THEY'RE NOT ALL NEGATIVE.
AND SO, YEAH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN IT TO BE MAYBE GET FROM 99.9 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCOMMODATING, GIVEN THAT'S WHO I AM AS A PERSON.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SET UP THE TIME TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND GO OUT THERE AND CHAT ABOUT WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND BE AS HONEST AS FORTHCOMING AS CALEB CAN BE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
THERE'S A FELLOW THAT LIVES OUT THERE.
I THINK HE'S CALLED ME TWICE BY ACCIDENT, BUT I PROBABLY HEARD FROM HIM 10 TIMES.
UH, THE, THE RESIDENT THAT SPOKE A MOMENT AGO HAS CONCERNS OF AS THE HOA REPRESENTATIVE.
I JUST BELIEVE THIS IS IMPORTANT, UH, TO TALK TO 'EM.
UH, THEY MAY GET ANSWERS THEY NEED, THEY MAY NOT, BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW UNTIL THAT THAT DISCUSSION'S HELD.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ORCHESTRATE THAT IN TWO WEEKS.
I HOPE YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
UH, I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD BREATHE A LITTLE EASIER AND BE A LITTLE HAPPIER ABOUT THAT.
UH, I, I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERN HOW MANY TIMES WE'RE GONNA STRING SOMEBODY OUT.
UH, I DON'T BELIEVE I'M STRINGING ANYBODY OUT.
YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN GRACIOUS, UH, TO MEET WITH PEOPLE.
AND I GENERALLY THINK THAT YOU GUYS WILL, I THINK WE'RE A STEP AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE A TRUE ONGOING LONG CONVERSATION UNTIL YOU, YOU GET READY FOR A SITE PLAN AND YOU CAN DEAL WITH EXACTS.
UM, THIS, THIS THING ISN'T GONNA CHANGE FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND WHO KNOWS IF IT'LL BE APPROVED TO CHANGE WHEN TIME COMES AND A SITE PLAN IS FILED.
THAT'S THE TIME FOR IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T HAVE IT NOW, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD SOME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT, I WANT THE PEOPLE IN CLAYTON POND, THE PEOPLE IN ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS
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TO HAVE TIME AND TO BE ABLE TO TALK.BUT TO THINK THAT BY THAT TALK, NOTHING CAN HAPPEN UNTIL WE SATISFY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE IS AN UNREALISTIC DREAM.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A LOT MORE DETAIL OF WHAT THAT COULD BE BEFORE THOSE TALKS CAN MEAN ANYTHING.
UM, AS YOU SAID, AGRICULTURAL LAND, LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT'S NO PIECE OF AGRICULTURAL LAND.
UH, MIGHT'VE BEEN BEFORE THE INTERSTATE WAS BUILT.
AND, AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND THINK ABOUT STREAM AND DRAGGING PEOPLE ALONG MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE, WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS REQUIREMENT TWO WEEKS AGO OR WHENEVER YOU WERE HERE.
UM, I, I JUST HAVE CONCERNS HOW WE DO WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF PREDICTABILITY OR LACK THEREOF.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE FALL RIGHT NOW.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FOR TWO WEEKS.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
YOUR, YOU ARE NOW ON ITEM 4K, CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 4.
PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 4.
REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 10 17.
SO WESTMINSTER FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO PUDZ 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 4 66 VINES PLANT UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 35 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF WESTMINSTER, NORTH OF 15TH STREET.
NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ZONED R ONE RURAL ESTATE DISTRICT OR GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURAL.
MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS UNDEVELOPED.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH.
THE PUD DESIGN STATEMENT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING DETAILS.
THE ALLOWED USES ARE EVENT CENTER, VINEYARD TASTING ROOM, AND A VARIETY OF RELATED SUPPORTING USES SUCH AS RESTAURANT HOSPITALITY, LOW INTENSITY, ARTISAN INDUSTRY, AND OUTDOOR RECREATION.
SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS RELATED TO FACADE LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND SCREENING ARE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN STATEMENT AND ARE THEREFORE LEGALLY BINDING ON SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT RELATED ACTIONS AS A RESULT OF A DETAILED PUBLIC HEARING AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE DESIGN STATEMENT NOW INCLUDES ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS AS FOLLOWS.
THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY FOR THE EVENT CENTER WILL BE 450 PEOPLE.
MUSIC MUST END AT TH 11:00 PM OPERATING HOURS ARE RESTRICTED TO WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
SUPPORTING USES ARE ONLY ALLOWED ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS SUCH AS RESTAURANT AND LODGING.
THE ADMIN PLAN CATEGORIZES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS CATEGORY SUPPORTS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALONG WITH SMALL AMOUNTS OF SUPPORTING COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC ACTIVITIES WITH CAREFUL DESIGN TO MAINTAIN THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED PUD DESIGN STATEMENT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE PLAN AT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO
[K. Case No. Z26-00014; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4104 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located at 1017 South Westminster from “G-A” General Agricultural to “PUD Z26-00014” Sixty-Six Vines Planned Unit Development and Providing an Effective Date. (Sixty-Six Vines, LLC; Ward 2)]
ADD ANYTHING, SIR? GOOD EVENING.DEAN KALITA, CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS.
4,700 GALLIA PARKWAY REPRESENTING THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER FOR THIS.
YEAH, AND TO KIND OF GO OFF WHAT KIM WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE USES BESIDES THE EVENT CENTER REALLY ARE FOR SUPPORT OF THIS FACILITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE, THE CATERING, THE PRIVATE CLUB, THE LODGING.
IT'S REALLY MEANT FOR THE ACTUAL FACILITY ITSELF.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VILLAS THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WEDDING PARTIES STAY OVERNIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT'S KIND OF USE ARE FOR THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AREA AND THE, THE COMP PLANET IS COMPATIBLE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE THE, UH, CHICKEN SHACK UP THE STREET AS LONG AS POPS.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A VERY LARGE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED TO THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO ONCE ALL THIS IS BUILT OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE COMPATIBLE WITH THIS AREA.
UH, CURRENTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG DRIVERS OF THIS PROJECT IS, IS DEMAND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ASPEN RANCH CLOSING, UH, SOON, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH, OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED, WOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY OF EDMOND LIMITS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CITY TO, UH, GET TAX DOLLARS.
ADDITIONALLY, HELP SUPPORT LOCAL VENDORS AND, AND SUPPLIERS AND PROVIDE JOBS FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND.
SO THERE IS BENEFIT HERE AND THERE IS A HIGH DEMAND FOR THIS.
THEY HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW LISTS, UH, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT DEPOSITS DOWN THAT REALLY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN FOR FUTURE EVENTS.
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DEFINITELY A, UM, YOU KNOW, A REALITY RIGHT NOW.SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE LOCAL RESIDENTS IN EDMONDS, SO THERE'S DEFINITELY DEMAND FOR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN EDMOND.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE.
THIS IS A VERY LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THREE BUILDINGS, UM, PARKING, UH, A LOT OF OPEN SPACE, A LOT OF MANICURED, UH, LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE A NICE VENUE FOR EVENTS, FOR WEDDINGS AND, AND OTHER TYPE OF CORPORATE EVENTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, AND WE AGREED TO ON THE WEST HALF OF THE PROPERTY TO BASICALLY PRESERVE THAT AS GREEN BELT WITH SOME PASSIVE, UH, RECREATIONAL USES.
AND SO REALLY THE PROPERTY'S ONLY GONNA BE DEVELOPED ON THE FRONT HALF.
UH, SO LOW IMPACT TO THE AREA, UM, LAND DISTURBANCE WISE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, REACHED OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND HAD TWO COMMUNITY CONNECTION EVENTS AT THE CHICKEN SHACK.
THERE WAS TWO DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO SHOW UP JUST BASED OFF OF PEOPLE'S SCHEDULE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO ATTEND, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T, ALTHOUGH WE REACHED OUT, BUT WE HAD SENT CERTIFIED LETTERS TO ALL EVERYONE ON THE OWNERSHIP LIST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, ATTEND.
UM, SOME DID SHOW UP TO EACH MEETING.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GO OVER THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THEM JUST TO KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE UP FRONT.
'CAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCOMMODATING EVERYBODY IN THE, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL THE RESIDENTS AROUND HERE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AS LOW IMPACT AS WE CAN TO THEM.
AND IF YOU COULD, UH, GO TO THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE DRAINAGE AREA MAP, MAYBE THE ONE OR TWO DOWN.
SO A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OFFSITE DRAINAGE COMING FROM THE NORTH.
UH, THE, THE DRAINAGE THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, PRODUCED BY THE ACTUAL IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY WILL ALL BE REROUTED AND NATURALLY GOING TO THE, THE PONDS THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT HERE.
SO WE HAVE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLECT STORM WATER AND DETAIN THIS DRAINAGE SO THAT WHEN IT LEAVES THE PROPERTY, IT'S GONNA BE AT OR LESS THAN EXISTING RUNOFF RATES UNDEVELOPED.
SO WE HAVE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
HE CAN PULL IT UP HERE IN A SECOND.
BUT, UM, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HANDLE THE DRAINAGE SIDE OF THINGS AND THAT'S REALLY SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OFFSITE DRAINAGE GOING OFF THE PROPERTY, SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT THERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE DRAINAGE PATTERNS WERE, UH, A LOT OF OFFSITE THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE NOT PRODUCING MUCH THAT'S, THAT'S AFFECTING, UH, SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE SCREENING, WE ARE, UH, IN THE PUD, WE'VE, UM, ESTABLISHED A, A SCREENING FENCE ANYWHERE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AS WELL AS PLANTING OF A LARGE CANOPY TREE EVERY 20, 25 FEET.
UH, AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING, UH, FOLIAGE AND TREE COVER THAT'S ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THERE IS PLANS TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN.
THERE'LL BE A TREE MITIGATION PLAN OR A TREE PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THIS.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THE WHOLE WESTERN PROPERTY IS GONNA BE, UM, USED AS PASSIVE, YOU KNOW, RECREATION.
SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MUCH DISTURBANCE OF THAT TREE CANOPY AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE'LL DEFINITELY MEET THE TREE PRESERVATION, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THE C CITY OF EDMOND.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT PEOPLE BROUGHT UP IS TRAFFIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ALREADY ARE IN THIS AREA.
YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC'S KIND OF ALREADY HERE, UH, ESPECIALLY WITHIN NEW PD COMING IN, THERE'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA IMPACT THAT MUCH AS IT IS.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK YOU LOOK AT RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, THESE EVENTS AREN'T GONNA BE DURING THE WEEK.
TYPICALLY YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THE WEEKEND.
YOUR PEAK LEVELS OF TRAFFIC ARE NOT GONNA, ARE NOT GONNA PEAK TOGETHER.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS A COMBINED EFFORT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, YOU KNOW, PEAKING AT ONE TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, WEEKEND HOURS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, THE PEOPLE ARE USUALLY ON THE WEEKEND DOING THINGS.
SO I DON'T THINK THE PEAK TRAFFIC IS GONNA REALLY IMPACT THIS AREA, UH, MORE THAN IT'S ALREADY BEEN IMPACTED BY THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE, UH, RIDE WIDENING WESTMINSTER FOR THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY MAY NOT HAVE MUCH OF A POSITIVE IMPACT, BUT WE ARE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT PER, PER THE, UH, FINAL PLOT AND DEDICATING A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY THERE TO THE CITY AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE MAIN KIND OF COMMENTS THAT WERE STATED THROUGH THE, OUR CON CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS.
UH, BUT ONE BIG THING THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WAS A BENEFIT TO, TO THE CITY OF EDMOND IS THE FACT THAT U THIS IS GONNA FACT IMPACT POSITIVELY THE TAX DOLLARS AND JOBS.
AND WE HAVE A, UH, A, A, A LADY, UH, JENNIFER SPRINGER WHO'S GONNA KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE IMPACT, UH, ECONOMICALLY AND KIND OF THE TAX DOLLAR SITUATION THAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE CITY OF EDMOND.
SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE JENNIFER.
UH, SO JENNIFER SPRINGER WITH THE EDMOND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
UH, WE WERE ASKED TO PREPARE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT, UH, ON THIS PROJECT TO HELP YOU GUYS BETTER EVALUATE THAT.
SO THIS IS AN UPSCALE EVENT CENTER FOCUSED ON WEDDINGS AND EVENTS.
WE CONSIDERED THE PROJECT, WHICH
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IS $16 MILLION OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT THAT WILL FLOW INTO THIS, UH, PROJECT.WITH THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO CALCULATE AN OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT OF $7.2 MILLION ANNUALLY TO THE EDMOND ECONOMY.
AND THAT IS FOCUSING ON, UH, TWO, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO REVENUES OF 3.8 MILLION AND PAYROLL OVER 1 MILLION, UH, DOLLARS.
AND SO THAT $7.2 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT IS THE DIRECT, THE INDIRECT, INDIRECT AND INDUCED IMPACT.
UH, AND SO THAT IS THE VALUE OF THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, UH, AS IT FLOWS THROUGH THE EDMOND ECONOMY.
AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I THINK WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
JENNIFER, YOU AND I, WE, WE LOOK AT, AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE FOCUS SOLELY AND ONLY ON SALES TAX 'CAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT HERE.
BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR MM-HMM
WHAT IS THAT? SO THE FIVE YEAR IS 525,000, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, WHEN I EVALUATED THIS PROJECT, I WANTED TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE.
SO I WORKED WITH 66 FINES AND EVALUATED WHAT WOULD BE TAXABLE AND WHAT WOULDN'T OUT OF THEIR REVENUES.
AND THAT IS WHAT I'M BASING THAT TAX NUMBER ON.
I'M NOT BASING IT ON THE OTHER, UH, DOLLARS FLOWING THROUGH, UH, WITH THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
SO THAT WOULD BE PURELY COMING FROM THE COMPANY AND I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP? THANK YOU, MS. SPRINGER.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.
STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND PLEASE REMEMBER IF YOU FOLLOW AFTER ANYONE, PLEASE DO NOT REPEAT THE SAME THINGS.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR NASH, NEIGHBORS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M LOCATED AT TEN SIX HUNDRED EAST COVAL.
UM, AND I'VE CALLED EDMOND SINCE GRADUATING FROM UCO.
I WON'T SAY EXACTLY HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT WAS, BUT MY HUSBAND AND I LIVED IN NORTHWEST EDMOND FOR NEARLY THREE DECADES AND WE RAISED OUR SIX CHILDREN THERE.
MORE RECENTLY, WE DECIDED TO MAKE A MOVE AND WE RELOCATED TO EAST EDMOND FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT FOR THE OBVIOUS, WE LIVE ON ABOUT 10 ACRES OF LAND NOT FAR FROM WHERE THE PROPOSED, PROPOSED VENUE IS GOING TO BE LOCATED.
WE'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE PEACE, THE NATURAL BEAUTY, AND THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF EAST EDMOND.
AND AS A NEARBY PROPERTY OWNER, PRESERVING THOSE QUALITIES IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL.
BUT I ALSO CAN APPRECIATE AND RECOGNIZE THE COMMUNITIES MUST GROW AND THEY MUST EVOLVE.
THAT BEING SAID, I'M HERE TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED EVENT VENUE 66 FINES BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT CAN HAVE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE OVERALL EDMOND AREA, A VENUE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE WEDDINGS, ALSO CORPORATE EVENTS, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE A GROWING CITY HERE THAT IS BRINGING INDUSTRY AND OPPORTUNITIES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE OLYMPICS HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO IT'S THESE TYPES OF VENUES I THINK THAT OFFER US A, A LOCAL OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK RIGHT HERE AND, AND UTILIZE THE SERVICES AND VENUES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.
SO IT WILL CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE AND CONDUCT BUSINESS, UM, RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY, IN OUR OWN BACKYARD, RATHER THAN TAKING THOSE EVENTS ELSEWHERE.
AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, ASPEN RANCH, AND I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT VENUES, BUT BECAUSE I DID LIVE IN NORTHWEST EDMOND, I WAS VERY CLOSE TO, UM, A REALLY LARGE WEDDING VENUE, UM, THAT WAS LOCATED IN, YOU KNOW, VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND, YOU KNOW, BEING SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME, I DIDN'T REALLY NOTICE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
AND THOSE ARE MOSTLY ALL TWO LANE ROADS OUT THERE IN THAT AREA.
UM, I THINK IT WAS DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO GOES UP AND DOWN BY MITCH PARK KNOWS THAT IT'S, IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.
BUT TO BE REALLY HONEST, EVEN HAVING THAT AREA AND LIVING IN THAT AREA, I DIDN'T REALLY EVER NOTICE THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, UM, OR CONGESTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE DRIVING AREA.
UM, AND THEN ALSO I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE BACK AND UTILIZE
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WITHIN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY HOTELS, CATERS, FLORIS, ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY, UM, BUSINESSES THAT STAND TO GROW AND ALSO GET OPPORTUNITY FROM AN EVENT LIKE EVENT STRUCTURE OR EVENT VENUE LIKE THIS.SO, UM, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, CAN BE DONE RESPONSIBLY, UM, WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND HELP AND BROAD BROADEN AS THEY MENTIONED THE TAX BASE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE OTHER, UM, THINGS OTHER THAN JUST PROPERTY TAXES, OBVIOUSLY TO GET YOUR REVENUE AND THIS SEEMS LIKE ANY, UH, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AS GOOD AS ANY OTHER.
UM, THEN ALSO, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND NOISE.
I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHERE I LIVE, I CAN HEAR THE CHICKEN SHACK UP UNTIL ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK SINGING, UM, AS WELL AS BOATS 24 7 ON LAKE ARCADIA.
SO I LIVE, YOU KNOW, NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST WHERE THIS IS PROPOSED, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY HEAR ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT JUST BECOMES PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT I LIVE IN.
UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST MY DRIVEWAY, BUT I SOON WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF EDMOND BUILDING A VERY LARGE HIGH SCHOOL ADJACENT TO WHERE I LIVE.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN BE DONE IN RESPECTFUL AND, UM, BE ADDRESSED BY PROFESSIONALS.
I THINK THAT IT DESERVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE LOOKED AT.
SO I JUST BELIEVE THAT WE CAN BE, EMBRACE THINGS LIKE THIS, OPPORTUNITIES IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY, UM, ENCOURAGE GROWTH WHILE PROTECTING WHAT MAKES EAST EDMOND A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND AS BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE THAT IT IS.
SO I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM BENEFITS, UM, THE VENUE COULD BRING TO OPPORTUNITY, TO OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
HOW'S EVERYONE TONIGHT? UM, MY NAME IS JENNIFER FIELDS, MOST OF YOU KNOW ME.
JENNIFER, COULD YOU MOVE OVER IN FRONT OF THAT MICROPHONE? NEED IT A LITTLE MORE? THANK YOU.
UM, I OWN THE 40 ACRES ADJOINING THIS PROPOSED VENUE AND I SERVE AS THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ARCADIA LAKE COMMISSION.
SOME DAYS IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY WEARING MANY HATS AS REALTOR TOURISM, BOARD MEMBER, LAKE COMMISSION, CHAIRWOMAN, AND NEIGHBORING LANDOWNER.
SO TONIGHT ALL FOUR SHOWED UP, SO I'M GONNA TRY AND KEEP DOWN WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT IN MY INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY, NOT PRESENTING AN ADOPTIVE POSITION OF EVEN THE COMMISSION OR THE TOURISM BOARD.
THESE ARE COMPLETELY MY OWN THOUGHTS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S INTEREST IN BRINGING ADDITIONAL TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES TO EDMOND AS A TOURISM BOARD MEMBER.
I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF ATTRACTING VISITORS WHO SUPPORT OUR HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, AND LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS OPPORTUNITY IS APPEALING.
MY REQUEST TONIGHT IS NOT GETTING NOTICE THAT I'M ABLE TO TAKE ENOUGH TIME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PROPOSAL WILL FIT IN WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA WHILE PROTECTING ARCADIA LAKE AS WELL.
I GUESS PROBABLY SOUND PROPOSALS, TESTS HAVE BEEN DONE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
I KNOW SOUND ECHOES IN THAT AREA AS WAS MENTIONED.
UM, BUT JUST KIND OF GETTING WORD OF THIS TONIGHT AND NOT HAVING TIME TO REVIEW EVERYTHING AS AN ADJOINING LANDOWNER.
I OWN THE 40 ACRES DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF IT RIGHT THERE.
THEN THE 40 ACRES WEST OF THAT IS OWNED BY PEGGY TISHA.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE SHE GOT NOTICE BECAUSE I THINK SHE WOULD'VE CONTACTED ME, UM, AS WELL.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME TIME TO UNDERSTAND THIS VENUE, LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING LAYOUT, WHICH OF COURSE I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THOSE AND CAN EASILY LOOK AT IT.
MY OTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF FIRE IS ABLE TO GET OUT THERE, GET OUT THERE SAFELY AND DEAL WITH ANY INCIDENTS THAT MAY OCCUR THERE.
MY NAME'S DAVID TROUTMAN AND I'M THE, UH, HOA PRESIDENT BO PRI.
SO AS JENNIFER WAS TALKING ABOUT, SIR, WOULD YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE UP? SORRY.
UM, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA IN BO PRI NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT JENNIFER JUST REFERRED TO.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT WAS, BUT I'VE LEARNED OF THIS THIS AFTERNOON AT TWO 30, DRIVING IN A CAR.
SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS I SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE AS OF THIS MOMENT.
UM, THE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING A LOT ABOUT IS
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THE PLAN FOR, UH, THE WESTERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS CLOSEST TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.UH, HOW IS THAT GONNA MITIGATE SOUND? UM, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS WATER USAGE.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXCLUSIVELY ON DRILLED WELLS.
WE'RE NOT ON CITY WATER, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S CITY WATER OUT TO THIS PROPERTY.
THERE MAY BE, IF NOT, I ASSUME THAT THERE'LL BE SOME SIGNIFICANT WELL DRILLING REQUIRED TO FUEL THAT PROPERTY AND WOULD THAT AFFECT OR IMPACT THE AQUIFER UNDER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THOSE ARE JUST QUESTIONS AND LIKE I SAID, I LEARNED OF THIS AT TWO 30 THIS AFTERNOON IN A CAR.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME MENTION THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME RESPONSES.
I KNOW THERE'S SOMEONE OVER HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR NASH AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, MY NAME'S ROBERT BROWN AND UH, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE 66 FINES PROJECT.
SIR, COULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? I, I, I'M ASKING THAT YOU GUYS SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
SO I'M, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER OF 23 YEARS, AND THAT EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT ME THAT TO, TO LOOK AT A PROPOSAL FOR MORE THAN ONE, ONE ANGLE.
AND WHAT DOES IT BRING TO THE COMMUNITY? WHAT CHALLENGES DOES IT CREATE? AND ARE THOSE CHALLENGES, UH, CAN THOSE CHALLENGES BE MANAGED RESPONSIBLY? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I'M BRINGING TO THIS PROJECT.
SO I LIVE IN EAST EDMOND ON ABOUT 10 ACRES WITH MY WIFE, OBVIOUSLY.
SO, AND I HAVE PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS DECISION.
I WANT TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT OF MY PROPERTY JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE WHO LIVES IN THIS AREA.
BUT BEING NEARBY DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE ME OPPOSED TO THE BUSINESS OPENING ITS DOORS.
AND AFTER 23 YEARS OF OWNING MY OWN BUSINESS, I UNDERSTAND THAT A GOOD IDEA ALONE ISN'T ENOUGH.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO OPERATE MATTERS.
AND HOW YOU TREAT YOUR NEIGHBORS MATTER AND FOLLOWING THROUGH YOUR COMMITMENTS MATTERS THAT MATTERS AS WELL.
THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD APPLY TO THIS PROJECT.
I SEE POTENTIAL HERE FOR BUSINESS THAT GIVES PEOPLE ANOTHER REASON TO CHOOSE ADMIN FOR THEIR EVENTS.
I ALSO SEE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS WHO COULD PROVIDE FOOD FLOWERS.
I AM REPEATING A FEW THINGS, BUT I ALREADY HAD THIS PREPARED, SO MY APOLOGIES,
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERING, NOT JUST WHAT HAPPENS ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT HOW, BUT HOW THE WORK COULD CREATE BEYOND IT.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, SUPPORT SHOULDN'T MEAN A BLANK CHECK.
THERE SHOULD BE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS, TRAFFIC, NOISE, LIGHTING, OPERATING HOURS NEARBY.
RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW THAT THEIR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN HEARD AND THAT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROV WILL MEAN SOMETHING.
I'M COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT WHILE ALSO EXPECTING ACCOUNTABILITY.
THOSE POSITIONS AREN'T CONTRADICTORY.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD APPROACH A BUSINESS DECISION.
AND IT'S HOW I'M APPROACHING THIS ONE.
I'M NOT ASKING THE COUNSEL TO OVERLOOK CONCERNS, HOWEVER, I'M ASKING THAT YOU WEIGH THEM AGAINST THE OPPORTUNITY AND DETERMINE WHETHER THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH PRACTICAL ENFORCEABLE REQUIREMENTS.
AS A NEARBY PROPERTY OWNER WITH SOW 23 YEARS OF ADMITTED EXPERIENCE, I BELIEVE IN A RESPONSIBLE PATH FORWARD FOR 66 VINES.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE PROPOSAL WITH THE APPROPRIATE PROTECTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, MY NAME'S MATT PARSONS.
I ALSO OWN THREE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM, CLOSER.
THERE'S ONE PROPERTY BETWEEN MYSELF AND THIS PROPERTY.
UM, SO I HAVE A TOTAL OF 26 ACRES, JUST ONE PROPERTY AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY I WAS UNABLE TO MAKE THE FIRST MEETING.
I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME IN THE HOSPITAL.
SO, UM, I WILL ADDRESS ALL OF MY CONCERNS.
UM, NOW, AND SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT, UM, WE'RE CONTINUALLY TOLD THAT THIS IS GONNA BE AN UPSCALE PLACE, AN UPSCALE EVENT.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE LIVE WITH CURRENTLY, UM, IS NOT, IS NOT THAT.
UM, WE HAVE RI RIFLE HUNTING, UM, WHICH IS 100% ILLEGAL HAS BEEN GOING ON.
I'VE CALLED IN EVIDENTLY, UH, DID YOU REPEAT THAT? WHAT'D YOU JUST SAY? A RIFLE HUNTING.
IT'S, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT ILLEGAL.
YOU CAN BOW HUNT, BUT I ASSURE YOU THAT GUNFIRE IS NOT ALLOWED.
UM, UH, THERE'S PEOPLE AT TIMES LIVING IN RVS ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S SOME NOISE WITH THAT.
SO, UM, WHEN THERE'S JUST A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THERE, IT'S NOISY.
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400 PEOPLE, IT WILL BE MORE NOISY.THE IDEA THAT THAT ROAD WILL NOT BE IMPACTED.
I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.
UM, THERE'S NOT A HUNDRED CARS ON THAT ROAD IN A DAY.
SO I'M NOT HERE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY, BUT I WANT US ALL TO PLAY ON THE SAME FIELD.
AND SO IF I'VE GOT 26 ACRES AND I CAN PUT WORKERS IN RVS, I CAN SHOOT GUNS, THEN I'D LIKE TO DO THAT TOO AND NOT CONTINUALLY TALK ABOUT HOW UPSCALE IT'S GOING TO BE.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
THE DATE FOR WHICH IT WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN HAS COME AND GONE.
UM, AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A BIG PUSH FOR MORE THINGS AND HOW GREAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE GREAT, BUT IT CURRENTLY ISN'T.
AND IT SEEMS KINDA LIKE THE WILD WEST AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY, BUT, UM, TH THOSE AREN'T GOOD THINGS AND THEY DON'T MAKE ME HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE NEXT THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN.
UM, I, I'LL DO MY BEST NOT TO REPEAT, BUT NOISE, FIRE, TRASH, WATER USAGE, 400 PEOPLE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND IF, IF WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA KEEP 'EM ALL IN THE FRONT PART OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND PARK 400 CARS, AND, UH, AND WHO ENFORCES THAT AT 11 O'CLOCK, THE THE NOISE STOPS IS THAT THE POLICE? I, AND IT'S AN HONEST QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT, HOW SAYING, THAT'S WHEN THE TIME I, THERE'S TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT, THAT I COULD FIND THAT YOU COULD CITE.
SO THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND THEN SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO ENFORCE IT.
SO THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING CURRENTLY ARE I ALSO, I I, IF IT'S OKAY TO HAVE PEOPLE RESIDE IN RVS, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND KNOW THAT IT'S A LEGAL THING TO HAPPEN.
SO, UM, E EVERYBODY ELSE, TONIGHT'S A GREAT PUBLIC SPEAKER.
I'M NOT, SO I, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE CONCERNS.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING YOU MAY HAVE WANT TO ASK ABOUT SOMETHING I'VE SAID, BUT, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE TO SAY WOULD BE A A A REPEAT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WERE SAID.
SO I, I, I STRUGGLE TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE THUS FAR.
I'M THE FIANCE OF JEFF BING, AND WE ACTUALLY RESIDE RIGHT THERE IN THE HOME JUST NORTH OF THE PROPOSED WEDDING VENUE AT 8 2 1.
UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO GET ON RECORD.
MY HUSBAND SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU GUYS THIS AFTERNOON.
HE WAS WONDERING IF IT HAD BEEN, UM, GIVEN OUT TO EVERYONE.
IF NOT, I DO HAVE COPIES FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE ONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ IT.
UM, WAS THAT, DID YOU RECEIVE THAT? OKAY.
UM, I DON'T REALLY WANNA REPEAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS CONSIDERING THAT I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET UP AND REBUTTAL THINGS THAT WERE STATED BY THEM.
SO I'M GONNA GO KIND OF FAST TO NOT HIT OVER TOO MUCH TIME.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE WANTED SPACE PRIVACY PIECE IN A QUIET ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN.
AND WE INVESTED SUBSTANTIALLY IN A HOME WITH ACREAGE AWAY FROM CONGESTION AND ACTIVITY IN COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO A WEDDING VENUE WITH A PROPOSED OCCUPANCY OF 400 PEOPLE IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT USED FROM THE SURROUNDING HOMES.
NOW, MIND YOU, BETWEEN WESTMINSTER POST ROAD, SECOND STREET AND 15TH STREET, THERE ARE 88 HOMES OF EVERYONE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO PRIOR TO THE LAST MEETING.
AND AFTER THE LITTLE CHICKEN SHACK MEETING THEY PUT TOGETHER AFTER COUNCIL TOLD 'EM THEY SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO MEET WITH PEOPLE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT STILL ARE UNAWARE OF THIS VENUE BEING PUT IN PLACE.
UM, ALONG WITH THAT, THEY'RE COMPARING THEMSELVES TO POP AND CHICK POPS AND CHICKEN SHACK, WHICH ARE TECHNICALLY ARCADIA BUSINESSES.
SO WE NEED TO GO WITH WHAT EDMOND'S MANDATE IS, NOT NECESSARILY WITH WHAT CHICKEN SHACK IS ABLE TO DO, WHO ONLY RUNS MUSIC ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.
THEY DON'T HAVE MUSIC WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED TIME THAT THE VENUE WOULD LIKE TO BE OPEN.
UM, I HAVE BEEN ACCOSTED THREE TIMES TRYING TO LEAVE MY DRIVEWAY IN MY GATE BY PEOPLE.
I ACTUALLY HAD TO RECORD THE LAST ONE THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T LET ME AND MY SON WHO ARE IN OUR GOLF CART TRYING TO TAKE OUR LITTLE EVENING RIDE OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY 'CAUSE THEY'VE PULLED INTO IT BLOCKING ME.
AND WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LEAVE OUR GATE OPEN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN JUST DRIVE DOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T
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UNDERSTAND WHERE THE VENUE IS OR ISN'T, OR THAT IT'S NOT A RESTAURANT.IT'S ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING RESTAURANT DURING EVENT TIMES.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR PROPOSED EIGHT FOOT POTENTIAL FENCE THAT THEY WANNA PUT AROUND THE VENUE, IT'S NOT GONNA BLOCK ANY NOISE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE, AND SHOULD NOT BE ASSUMED TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM OF SOUND BECAUSE ITS EFFECTIVENESS DEPENDS ON ITS HEIGHT RELATIVE TO THE SOUND SOURCE AND NEIGHBORING HOMES AND ITS CONSTRUCTION DENSITY AND THE TERRAIN AND THE LOCATION OF THE NOISE.
SO BEFORE APPROVAL, I WOULD LIKE CLARITY REGARDING THE REQUIRED HEIGHT CONSTRUCTION PLACEMENT OF THE SOUND BARRIER FENCE, UM, WHETHER IT WILL BE SOLID AND HOW IT WILL BE DESIGNED TO ACTUALLY REDUCE THE SOUND COMING TO MY HOME.
BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING, LIVING, HUNTING, HANGING OUT, WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE ON THAT PROPERTY CURRENTLY, WE CAN HEAR ME AND MY LITTLE BOY CAN HEAR COMING FROM THEIR PLAYGROUND ONTO MY PROPERTY, WE CAN HEAR THE MUSIC.
SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW A SOUND SYSTEM WILL ATE AND GO THROUGH WHEN I'M TRYING TO PUT MY SON TO BED AT 9:00 PM AT NIGHT.
UM, ASIDE FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM A QUALIFIED ACOUSTICAL, ACOUSTICAL PROFESSIONAL.
I KNOW THAT ZACH HAS GOTTEN UP HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT SATELLITES DEALING WITH THE DECIBEL LEVELS, BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT COMPANY HE WORKS FOR, WHAT SOUND SITE, YOU KNOW, UM, THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE IN ORDER TO KNOW HOW THAT WILL TRAVEL AND HOW THAT TRAVELING SOUND WILL BE MITIGATED.
UM, THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN LOW FREQUENCY BASE IN ORDINARY SPEECH AND HIGHER FREQUENCY SOUNDS, THOSE TRAVEL DIFFERENTLY.
THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO MOVE AROUND CERTAIN OBJECTS IN ORDER TO REVERB OFF OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AG AGAIN, HOW COMPLIANCE WILL BE MEASURED AND ENFORCED AFTER THE VENUE BEGINS OPERATING.
I'M, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER THE COMBINED EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROPOSED BARRIER BUILDING, PLACEMENT, SPEAKER ORIENTATION, LANDSCAPING AND OPERATING RESTRICTIONS.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ADMITS APPLICABLE NOISE RULES AND OPERATING HOUR RESTRICTIONS MAY DIFFER FROM THOSE IN ARCADIA.
SO THERE AGAIN, THEM COMPARING THEMSELVES TO CHICKEN SHACK REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR ME BECAUSE CHICKEN SHACK IS ARCADIA AND THEY'RE ONLY DOING MUSIC TWO DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK.
UM, THE LAST MEETING THEY DISCUSSED HAVING A FENCE BORDER UP UNTIL THE LAST, AND I'LL CALL IT THIRD OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR WALKING TRAILS.
WELL, HOW DO I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE ON THOSE WALKING TRAILS AREN'T GOING TO WANDER OFF ONTO MY PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE'S NO FENCE RUNNING DOWN THERE, KEEPING THEM ON THE VENUE'S PROPERTY.
UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT ERECTING LARGE TREES.
WELL, ARE THOSE TREES GONNA BE PURCHASED AT 30 FEET TALL OR ARE THEY GONNA BUY THEM AS DWARFS AND LET THEM GROW UP TO A HEIGHT TO WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY KEEP SOUND FROM TRAVELING OFF OF THE PROPERTY OR SITE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM SEEING OVER THE FENCE THAT THEY PUT AROUND ONTO MY PROPERTY? UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA ON POST ROAD THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY HAVE OVERFLOW PARKING AT, AND THEN THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, SHUTTLE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING IS LOCATED.
'CAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY OWN A RESIDENTIAL LOT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND I DON'T THINK THE HOA IS GONNA LET PEOPLE PARK EXTRA VEHICLES FOR THE WEDDING VENUE THERE IN ORDER TO BE SHUTTLED BACK AND FORTH, UM, WATER SUPPLY AND FIRE PROTECTION.
I MEAN, THAT WAS ALREADY TOUCHED ON.
SO BASICALLY A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID BY THEM, AND I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE CLEAR CONSTRUCTED PLANS THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED THROUGH ON, NOT JUST, OKAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA THROW UP AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, LIKE THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA WORK FOR US.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE STANDARDS THAT ARE SET AND MET.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST PROGRESSION EITHER.
I OWN A BUSINESS, MY HUSBAND OWNS A BUSINESS.
I JUST THINK THAT IF I COULD ASK YOU GUYS TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE WHETHER THE PROPOSED VENUE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL LOCATION AND TO ENSURE THAT ANY APPROVAL IS BASED ON A COMPLETE AND ACCURATE UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTENDED OPERATIONS AT A MINIMUM CLEAR AND ENFORCEABLE RESTRICTIONS ON OPERATING HOURS, NOISE EVENTS, OCCUPANCY AND OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, VERIFIED PARKING, TRAFFIC AND EMERGENCY ACCESS PLANS.
NOT JUST SPOKEN ABOUT, BUT ACTUALLY HANDED OVER TO THE NEIGHBORS SPECIFIC SOUND MITIGATION, FENCING AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
WRITTEN LIMITS ON ADDITIONAL LODGING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE REMAINING ACREAGE BECAUSE ON THEIR WEBSITE THEY BOAST ABOUT HAVING CORPORATE RETREATS, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE THERE FIVE DAYS IN A ROW STAYING ON SITE.
UM, PROTECTION OF PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, PRIVACY AND RESIDENTIAL ACCESS, AND A CLEAR PROCESS FOR REPORTING VIOLATIONS AND ENSURING COMPLIANCE.
OUR CONCERNS ARE NOT ABOUT PREVENTING SOMEONE FROM OPERATING A BUSINESS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE LIVE NEARBY.
THEY'RE ABOUT ENSURING THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT IMPOSE UNREASONABLE IMPACTS ON THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS WHO MUST LIVE WITH ITS CONSEQUENCES EVERY DAY.
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HAVE.YOU, YOU SAID YOUR HUSBAND HAD SENT AN EMAIL, JEFFREY GLIDING? YES, SIR.
I AM A 30 YEAR TEACHER HERE IN EDMOND, AND I WAS KIND OF VISIT FOR ABOUT, UH, THE BENEFITS THAT WE'RE GONNA SHARE IF THIS GETS APPROVED WITH MY STUDENTS RIGHT ACROSS THE BLOCKS HERE AT BOULEVARD ACADEMY.
UH, WHICH IT'S ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOL AREA IN EDMOND.
BUT BEFORE I DID THAT, REMIND ME, REMINDED ME WHEN HE SHOWED THE PLOT LAND OF WHAT THE, ALL THE GREEN RURAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT REMINDED ME IN 1999 WHEN I CAME BEFORE YOU AND WE HAD OUR RESIDENTIAL AND EAST EDMOND, UM, JUST A FEW MILES TO THE NORTH, UM, WEST OF WHERE THIS IS COMING.
AND THAT PLOT LAND LOOKED VERY SIMILAR AND IT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT TODAY.
UM, AND SO I'VE DEFINITELY SEEN THE IMPACT OVER TIME.
UH, AND THIS ALMOST REMINDS ME OF WHAT I SAW 26 YEARS AGO IN MY PART OF EAST EDMOND.
AND I REMEMBER THINKING BACK THEN WHEN EDMOND BECAME, WHEN THAT THAT LANE BECAME EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
BEFORE THEN IT WAS ARCADIA ELEMENTARY AND NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND I THOUGHT, OH MAN, THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BOOM WHEN THAT COMES OUT.
THEN I REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED TO GET SOME SMALL BUSINESSES OUT THERE, GAS STATIONS, CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
UM, REALLY WASN'T, BUT I WILL SAY IT'S DIFFERENT NOW.
AND MY THING, WHAT I SAW WAS CITY WATER WAS THE BIG CHANGE MAKER.
WHEN CITY WATER CAME OUT, EVERYTHING CHANGED.
THEY COULD STACK NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOUSES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
UH, WE NOW HAVE RED BUD ELEMENTARY, TALL OAKS, UM, POST OAK ELEMENTARY, WHICH NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY IT'S NOT ON POST.
BUT ANYWAY, UM,
AND I SAW THAT, I'M GUESS I'M A VERY STRONG EDUCATED GUESS.
THERE'S NO CITY WATER OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL WATER TREATMENT CENTER JUST TO THE WEST THAT'S BEING FINISHED UP.
AND SO MY GUESS IS IT'S NOT TOO FAR ALONG DOWN THE PIPE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PLANS TO SAY THAT, BUT I KNOW FOR US, I, I HAVE SEEN THE DRASTIC CHANGES THAT MADE.
AND IF A FACILITY LIKE THIS CAME ABOUT BEFORE THAT HAD MADE, I'VE BEEN SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.
A HIGH END VENUE, UM, WITH MOST OF THE TRAFFIC NOT OCCURRING DURING RUSH HOUR, WHICH NOW WE HAVE A STOP LIGHT AND GETTING ON AND OFF.
I 35 IS, I STILL LOVE MY, MY HOUSE OUT THERE.
I'M NOT LEAVING ANYTIME SOON, BUT I CAN SEE THE CHANGE.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS EVENT, AND I WOULD SAY AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN EAST EDMOND THAT SAW THIS CHANGE IN MY AREA 20 YEARS AGO, I CAN ALMOST SEE THE FUTURE OF WHAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE OUT THERE.
AND THIS IS A WONDERFUL PLAN NOW FOR WHAT I CAME TO TALK ABOUT WAS MY STUDENTS AT BOULEVARD ACADEMY.
UH, WE ARE DEFINITELY HOPING THAT THIS GOES THROUGH.
I VISITED WITH, UM, 66 VINES AND THE POTENTIAL FOR OUR KIDS, OUR STUDENTS, UH, NOT A TON OF COLLEGE PREP.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, LIFE AND CAREER OUTSIDE OF, UH, COLLEGE EDUCATION AT, UH, MY ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, WE PARTNER WITH, UM, FRANCIS TUTTLE.
WE DO A LOT OF, UH, KIDS IN FOOD SERVICES, UM, AREAS LIKE THAT.
UM, COSMETOLOGY, OBVIOUSLY NURSING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND TO HAVE A FACILITY THAT HAS WELCOMED US TO COME OUT AND TAKE VERY SMALL NUMBER OF KIDS, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIMIT OUR, OUR TRIPS TO A VERY SMALL HANDFUL OF KIDS WHO HAVE SHOWN INTEREST IN THESE AREAS.
AND TO BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH SUPER HIGH-END CHEFS AT THE TOP OF THEIR GAME, EXPLAINING TO KIDS, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
I TEACH A CLASS IN BUSINESS AND I TALK ABOUT HOW TO DO AN INTERVIEW, HOW TO DO A RESUME, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ONCE YOU DO ALL THAT.
AND HAVING PEOPLE WHO HIRE THESE TYPE OF WORKERS TO SAY WHAT LOOKS GOOD ON A RESUME.
AND THEN BEING ABLE TO HAVE THOSE TRUTHFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE THE TOP OF THEIR INDUSTRY.
UM, HAVING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY DO HAVE WEDDINGS, TO HAVE SMALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN FLORIST, BECAUSE I HAVE SEVERAL STUDENTS WHO SAID, THAT'D BE A GREAT CAREER PHOTOGRAPHY FOR WEDDING, FOR LET 'EM SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
'CAUSE IN THEIR HEAD, IT'S NOT WHAT REALITY LOOKS LIKE.
UH, HAVING BEEN TO MANY, MANY WEDDINGS, IT'S THINGS SOUNDS LIKE GREAT SITTING THERE WITH A CAMERA, TAKING A PICTURE.
AND FOR THEM TO SEE WHAT THE EARLY MORNING OF A WEDDING DAY LOOKS LIKE WITH THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE AND THE TIME COMMITMENT AND THE ENERGY USED.
AND SO BEING ABLE FOR, UH, BOULEVARD ACADEMY
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TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH 'EM IS JUST, I, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS A, AS A POSSIBILITY.AND SO I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS, AND AGAIN, I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT UNTIL I SAW THAT MAP AND JUST HAD A FLASHBACK OF ME SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU ALL IN 1999 AND JUST SAY, MAN, THAT LOOKS FAMILIAR AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
AND TO SEE A POSSIBILITY LIKE THIS, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN MY AREA INSTEAD OF WHAT SOMEONE THAT HAS NO, IT'S GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT HOUSES, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS AN EDUCATOR, I, I LIKE PROPERTY TAX.
IT HELPS, IT HELPS FUND EDUCATION.
SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE ALL THAT, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT FOR THE AREA, IN MY OPINION.
HELLO, MY NAME IS LEAH COLEMAN ARNOLD, AND WHILE I LIVE IN OKC, NOW, I WAS BORN AND BRED ON COVELL AND COLTRANE, AND I NOW AM A WEDDING AND EVENT FLORIST.
I STARTED MY BUSINESS HERE IN EDMOND, ACTUALLY FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND I WANT TO QUICKLY MENTION TO THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT GOOGLED 66 VINES AND CHECKED OUT THEIR WEBSITE, THEY'VE GOT SOME AMAZING RENDERINGS THAT WOULD PROBABLY, UM, EASE ANY SORT OF DOUBT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE EVENT VENUE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.
IT IS UNMATCHED IN OUR STATE AS A WEDDING FLORIST, I PREDOMINANTLY WORK IN THE OKC METRO, BUT I FIND THAT A LOT OF MY CLIENTS WHO ARE YOUNG COUPLES THAT GREW UP HERE JUST LIKE I DID, THEY CAN'T FIND A VENUE THAT THEY ACTUALLY REALLY LOVE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
SO THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY GO TO TEXAS, THEY GO TO THE DALLAS AREA, THEY GO TO THOSE BEAUTIFUL CHAPELS IN ARKANSAS, THEY GO TO FLORIDA, THEY GO TO NEW YORK.
AND I WILL TRAVEL ANYWHERE TO DO A WEDDING, BUT HOW AMAZING WOULD IT BE TO KEEP OUR OKAY DOLLARS HERE IN OUR HOMETOWN.
NOW, ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I ALSO DO A LOT OF WEDDINGS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN OKLAHOMA AT ALL.
SOME LIVE ON THE EAST AND SOME LIVE ON THE WEST, AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE GONNA BE TRAVELING SOMEWHERE.
SO THEY MEET AT A MIDDLE GROUND.
AND WE,
THIS VENUE WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN REALLY INCREDIBLE EVENTS.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YES, UPSCALE, YOU KEEP HEARING THIS IS GONNA BE AN UPSCALE EVENT, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, UPSCALE MEANS QUALITY AND IT MEANS A LOT OF VISITORS COMING INTO OUR STATE.
AND WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF I 35, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW HOTELS THAT NEED TO GET FILLED UP AND WEDDINGS AND EVENTS LIKE THIS.
THAT IS HOW WE DO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN A COMMUNITY LIKE EDMOND.
A QUICK NON-EVENT, UH, PERSPECTIVE I HAD, I SPENT A COUPLE YEARS OF MY YOUNG PROFESSIONAL LIFE EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT HONEYBEES.
UM, A VERY NICHE PROFESSION I KNOW, BUT IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, 66 VINES IS GOING TO PUT HIVES ALL OVER THEIR PROPERTY.
HONEYBEES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR POLLINATING ONE THIRD OF THE FOOD THAT WE EAT.
DID YOU KNOW THAT IN A PLACE LIKE ARCADIA, WHICH IS STILL PREDOMINANTLY AGRICULTURAL BASED, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT IS THE SORT OF NEIGHBOR THAT I WOULD WANT TO HAVE.
THOSE BEES ARE GOING TO TRAVEL THREE MILES AROUND THEIR HIVES TO POLLINATE WHATEVER'S BLOOMING AT THE TIME.
SO THAT WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE FARMERS AND THE CROPS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THE WILDLIFE THAT'S OUT THERE, THAT WILL MAKE ALL THE NEIGHBORS GARDENS REALLY HAPPY AS WELL.
NOW, AS FAR AS EVENTS GO, I WENT THROUGH MY LAST YEAR'S WORTH OF WEDDINGS AND I CHECKED THE VENDOR LISTS FOR EVERY WEDDING I DO.
A SMALL WEDDING HAS ABOUT A TEAM OF 10 DIFFERENT VENDORS.
VENDOR MEANS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
THESE ARE NOT CORPORATE BUSINESSES.
THIS IS NOT ANOTHER WALL MARKET.
THESE ARE LITTLE MOM AND POPS.
THESE ARE LOCAL OKLAHOMANS WHO SELF STARTED A BUSINESS AND ARE TRYING TO FLOURISH HERE.
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SO A SMALL WEDDING HAS AT LEAST 10 SMALL BUSINESSES ATTACHED TO IT THAT ARE MAKING A LIVING.LARGER WEDDINGS HAVE 20 PLUS VENDORS ATTACHED TO THEM.
SO AT AN UPSCALE EVENT PLACE LIKE 66 VINES, I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD AVERAGE BETWEEN 15 TO 20 VENDORS.
IE SMALL BUSINESSES PER EVENT.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVENTS FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN ROUGHLY 60 PLUS LOCAL OKLAHOMA BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO GET SUPPORTED EVERY WEEKEND.
AND THOSE ARE JUST THE BUSINESSES.
THEY HAVE TEAMS. THE TRICKLE DOWN IS HUGE.
THIS BRINGS MONEY INTO THE POCKETS OF HUNDREDS OF LOCAL WORKERS EVERY WEEKEND THAT AREN'T AFFILIATED WITH THE VENUE AT ALL.
SO THE IMPACT GOES WAY BEYOND THE VENUE ITSELF.
IT ALSO HAS A LOT TO BE DESIRED.
AND I THINK THAT WE ALL LOVE IT HERE OR WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
AND I THINK THAT WE WANT TO SEE THE RIGHT TYPE OF PROGRESS BEING MADE.
A PLACE LIKE THIS LEAVES SO MUCH BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE HERE.
AND I JUST, I ALSO HAVING GROWN UP ON COVELL AND COLTRANE, UM, BEFORE THERE WERE ANY NEIGHBORHOODS OUT THERE AT ALL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT VERY QUICKLY, THAT 40 ACRES OR WHATEVER IT IS, COULD BE MORE TABOR HOMES.
I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN TABOR HOMES, BUT MAYBE SOME OF YOU NEIGHBORS COULD THINK ABOUT THAT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF NEIGHBOR YOU'D RATHER HAVE.
UM, I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY HAVE THE QUALITY EVENTS HERE IN TOWN AND KEEP OUR OKLAHOMA DOLLARS HERE IN TOWN AND NOT MAKE US DRIVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR WORK, WHICH I HAPPILY DO.
BUT THE EXCITEMENT AROUND THIS VENUE FROM FUTURE CLIENTS HAS BEEN REALLY EXCITING.
AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE WANTING TO BRING REALLY HIGH LEVEL EVENTS HERE.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS FOR PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS, AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THOSE, CHET HOLMGREN'S ALMOST ENGAGED, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF HE GOT MARRIED HERE? WE'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY IN THAT WAY, AND THE PERSONNEL THAT IS GOING TO BE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
THIS VENUE GIVES THEM A SPACE TO CELEBRATE THE BEST DAY OF THEIR LIFE HERE IN OUR HOME.
I LIVE, UH, I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES SOUTH OF, THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 221.26 YARDS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT HERE TO TRY AND MAKE ENEMIES OR MAKE THIS PERSONAL, BUT THIS IS DRASTICALLY GOING TO REDUCE MY TRANQUILITY AND MY PROPERTY VALUE.
I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S GONNA HELP MY PROPERTY VALUE, BUT IT'S NOT.
I'VE TALKED TO DEVELOPERS, I'VE TALKED TO REALTORS.
UH, I'M ALL ABOUT PROGRESS, BUT THIS IS, THIS PROGRESS IS NOT GONNA HELP ME ANY, UH, NOW I ASSUME AFTER I TALK IS 66 FINES GONNA GET TO REPLY.
SO DO I GET TO CONFIRM OR CLARIFY ANYTHING THEY SAY? NO, YOU'VE GOT ONE SHOT AT THIS.
SO, 'CAUSE LAST TIME THEY SAID STUFF THAT MADE NO SENSE AND LIKE WHATEVER, BELOW GRADE, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY WHERE, WHERE BELOW GRADE WAS.
UH, I MAY REGURGITATE SOME OF THE COMMENTS PEOPLE HAVE MADE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN MY TONE AND MY CONCERNS ARE DULY NOTED.
BUT I'LL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS I CAN.
UH, MY FIRST TOPICS ARE, YOU KNOW,
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POLLUTION, SOUND LIGHTS, STRUCTURE HEIGHTS.UH, I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE QUOTE EDMOND PLAN.
AND THE RULE IS YOUR DESIRED BUSINESS USE DOES NOT FIT THE LONG TERM FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR YOUR PARCEL CANNOT SIMPLY REZONE.
UM, AND THE PROCESS YOU MUST APPLY FOR AND SECURE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, BEFORE REZONING.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND THAT AMENDMENT OR THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I DON'T IF IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, THERE HAS TO BE A, UH, THE CITY OF EDMOND PLACES HEAVY EMPHASIS ON HOW A NEW COMMERCIAL ENTITY IMPACTS ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
CITY OF EDMOND HASN'T, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE NOT NOTIFICATION FOR THIS, I CHIEF OF EDMOND'S NOT TALKED TO ME.
UM, AND THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE GA DISTRICTS, UH, THE BUFFER ZONES, UH, DISTRICTS OFTEN SIT ON URBAN FRINGES, NEAR RESIDENTIAL SECTORS.
THE CITY WILL EVALUATE THE COMPATIBILITY OF YOUR BUSINESS.
EVERY, THIS INCLUDES EVALUATING PROJECTED NOISE, LIGHT POLLUTION, OPERATING HOURS, AND STRUCTURAL HEIGHTS, UH, REALLY FROM THEIR WEBSITE AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S ALL IN PLANNING, BUT, UH, I CAN'T EVEN GET A, A DEPO, A DB WRITING.
I CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO TELL ME WHAT, UH, UH, IF IT'S 40 DECIMALS, IS IT 50? WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE? 'CAUSE EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MONITOR WHAT THE DB RATING IS.
OKAY, WHAT IS IT? IS IT 80? IS IT 90? IS IT 40? IS IT 50? I MEAN, I HAVE, UH, FILM PREDATORS OUT THERE AT NIGHT WITH A PREDATOR TO CALL FOR 36 YEARS.
AND I KNOW THAT RATING'S VERY HIGH, AND I WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT TRY TO DO IT DURING A VENUE, BUT EVERY PROPERTY OF THE SOUTH ON THAT PROPERTY HAVE PERMISSION TO CALL IN PREDATORS AND JUST TAKE PICTURES OF THEM.
SO I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T EVEN HAVE A, A THRESHOLD OF WHAT I CAN DO MUCH LESS THAN, UM, EVERYBODY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT 11:00 PM WELL, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL ON EVENTS IN EDMOND, IT'S 10:00 PM TO 8:00 AM IS ACCEPTABLE HOURS.
NOW, ALSO, IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, EVEN IF IT IS 11:00 AM IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, WEDDING PARTIES OR WHATEVER STAYING IN THEIR FACILITY, WHO'S GONNA MONITOR THEM WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER BOOM BOXES, OR NOT BOOMBOX, THAT'S MY AGE, BUT THERE ARE MUSIC DEVICES THAT IT COULD BE A HUNDRED DECALS.
WHO'S GONNA MONITOR THAT? IS SOMEBODY FROM SIX SIX VINES GONNA BE OUT THERE SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS TOO LOUD.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA BE OUT THERE, POLICE AND STUFF.
I MEAN, I CAN HEAR A HAMMER FROM THEIR FAITH, THEIR PLACE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PROGRESS.
IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I DON'T WANT MUSIC.
AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UM, THEY BROUGHT UP, UH, PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH I PLAYED PICKLEBALL, SIX HOURS THAT SHOULD BE PLAYING RIGHT NOW.
UH, THEY BROUGHT UP PICKLEBALL COURTS WITH TYPICALLY A PICKLEBALL COURT, UH, FOR A SINGLE COURT IS TYPICALLY THE LIGHTS ARE 20 FEET HIGH AND THEY'VE GOTTA BE POSITIONED.
AND THEY, UH, THEY GOTTA HAVE SIDE SHIELDS.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN ONE PICKLEBALL COURT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 18 TO 20 FOOT, UH, LIGHTS.
WELL, THE CITY EDMOND SAYS YOU CAN ONLY HAVE LIGHTS AT 12 FEET FOR BUSINESS.
AND YOU CAN'T, THEY GOTTA BE SHIELDED AND THEY CAN'T BE FLASHING.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE, IF THEY'VE LOOKED INTO THAT, UH, THAT ONE, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, PICKLEBALL, UH, THE NEXT, AND, AND I KNOW, UH, KAT BROUGHT UP SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT EVERYBODY KEEPS BRINGING UP THE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
UM, MONDAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IS NOT PEAK TRAFFIC.
THE PEAK TRAFFIC IS THURSDAY NIGHT, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO POP'S OR THE CHICKEN CHECK OR JUST RIDING THE MOTORCYCLES UP AND DOWN THE BIG HILLS OUT THERE.
SO THEY WILL BE ON THE PEAK TIME
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OF WESTMINSTER 15TH, OR ANDERSON, WHATEVER STREETS ARE ON THERE.UH, IF THEY CAN HAVE 450 STAFF OUT THERE, OR NOT, I'M SORRY, 450, UH, FAMILIES AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE VISITING OUT THERE, PLUS THE VENDORS, WHICH YOU GOT, UH, LADIES AND FLOWERS AND PHOTOGRAPHERS AND ALL THAT THERE.
THEORETICALLY THERE COULD BE 500 CARS.
NOW, JUST RECENTLY WHEN I VISITED WITH AT CHICKEN AND PICKLE, THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LIMITED PARKING THERE, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAUL PEOPLE OR BRING PEOPLE IN FROM SOMEWHERE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
AND THAT'S STILL A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU HAVE 400 PEOPLE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ALMOST FOUR ACRES OF LAND TO MEET, YOU KNOW, A DA PARKING, YOU KNOW, TURNAROUNDS, MEDIANS, WHATEVER.
YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE FOUR ACRES OF LAND.
AND, UH, THEY HAVING ALLOTTED FOUR ACRES IN LAND ON THAT.
UM, I THINK THEY BROUGHT UP, UH, ADDING ON TO, WELL, LAST MEETING THEY, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT SIDEWALK, KIND OF OFF THE RECORD AND THEN ROAD.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MIGHT BE EXTENDING PART OF WESTMINSTER, MAYBE FOR A MERGING ROAD OR SOMETHING.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DRAINAGE PARKING.
UH, THEY CAN'T ENCROACH, UH, GRASSY VERGES, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE UP VERGES, BUT THEY CAN'T BE ON THE GRASS.
SO, YOU KNOW, FEDEX OR AMAZON OR WHATEVER, WE EVEN PARK OVER THERE, THEY CAN'T BE ON THE GRASS.
UM, AND AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN BROUGHT UP A HUNDRED CARS GOING DOWN WESTMINSTER.
WELL, I HAD, I TALKED TO COLE AT THE CITY OF EDMOND, UH, AND ON THREE TWO OF 26.
AND HE, HE CAME OUT THERE AND DID IT.
'CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET A THREE-WAY STOP AT 15TH OF WESTMINSTER JUST BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
I THINK THEY'RE, AND CITY OF EDON HAS IT ON RECORD.
I THINK THERE'S LIKE 320 CARS GOING DOWN, UH, 15TH STREET, 120 OR 30 GOING DOWN WESTMINSTER.
BUT THIS IS GONNA BE THREEFOLD GOING DOWN WESTMINSTER.
UH, AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, WE'VE GOT THE EDMUND COMMUNITY CHURCH ON WESTMINSTER, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, 66.
WE'VE GOT THE EAST EDMUND 15 A, UH, PUD, THE MCLENDON, UH, FACILITY THAT'S COULD BE 4,500 HOUSES AND THEY SAY 11,000 RESIDENTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THIS TRAFFIC'S GONNA GO.
WHO'S GOING TO THIS PLACE? THESE ROADS CAN'T HANDLE IT.
UH, AND UNDER TITLE 21 OF THE EB MUNICIPAL CODE A, UH, TIA TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR ANY OF THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, COLE DID A GREAT JOB LETTING ME KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SAID YOU, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO EXPLAIN IF HOW FAR IT IS FROM THE SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS OUT OF HIS CONTROL.
BUT I SAID, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR THIS FACILITY OR FOR THE CHURCH OR FOR THE, UH, UH, 15 EAST EDMOND 15 A P, IF ANY OF THAT'S BEEN DONE.
BECAUSE 33 AND 15TH CAN'T HANDLE 11,000 PEOPLE.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT GO DOWN HIGH WALL SEE OR WHATEVER, BUT IT, IT JUST CAN'T HANDLE IT.
AND GRANTED, I'M GOING FROM THE EDMUND WEBSITE AND SOME OF IT COULD BE OBSOLETE OR I'M NOT LOOKING IN THEIR EXACT RIGHT PLACE.
BUT IT SAYS, UH, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY CONSIDERED A SPECIAL EVENT, I WOULD ASSUME, UNLESS IT, SINCE IT'S PRIVATE, MAYBE IT'S NOT.
BUT, UH, COORDINATORS ORGANIZE EVENTS ARE REQUIRED TO PRESENT THEIR APPLICATION AS SPECIAL EVENTS MEETING AT LEAST TWO MONTHS BEFORE THEIR DATE.
UH, AND THEN APPLICATIONS MUST TURN IN.
THE CITY WRITES RIGHT OF WAY, EVENT COORDINATOR, WHICH THERE'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC GOING UP AND DOWN WESTMINSTER.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE BAD, UH, LOOKING AT THEIR WEBSITE, UH, AND
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FACILITY LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.I JUST, FROM MY PREVIOUS, UH, EMPLOYMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF A DA CONCERNS AS FAR AS ESPECIALLY THE TWO STORY FACILITY.
BUT, UH, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY IN THE CITY OF EDMONDS.
SO THEY HAVE TO, UH, ABIDE BY THE CITY OF EDMOND, UH, YOU KNOW, BURN BANDS.
SO THEY CAN'T HAVE FIREWORKS AT ALL.
THEY CAN'T HAVE, UH, BALLOONS.
THEY CAN'T DO SKY LANTERNS, THEY CAN'T EVEN HAVE SPARKLERS.
THAT'S HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BURN BAND.
NOW, IF THEY DO HAVE A BURN BAND, THEY CAN'T USE THEIR FIRE PITS.
THEY'VE GOT ON THEIR WEBSITE, THEY GOT LIKE A 10 OR 12 FOOT DIAMETER FIRE PIT.
AND THERE'S ALSO RESTRICTIONS ON, ON CANDLES.
AND, UM, I THINK ONE OF THESE GENTLEMEN OVER HERE, I THINK, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA GENERATE WATER FOR ALL THOSE PONDS.
I THINK THERE'S THREE OF THEM.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW PRACTICAL IT IS TO GET THE, THIS WATER FROM EDMOND.
'CAUSE I GUESS THEY'D HAVE TO GET IT ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM 66.
BUT, UH, IF THEY'RE DOING IT FROM A WELL, AND THIS IS A, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A BUSINESS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A, A PERMIT FROM OAKLAND WATER RESOURCE BOARD.
AND, UM, IF YOU'RE SUPPLYING COMMERCIAL WATER.
SO, SIR, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA INTERJECT HERE AND JUST SAY YOU'RE GETTING INTO ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ZONING ISSUE ITSELF.
ALL EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS STARTING TO GO TOWARDS THE SITE PLAN AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
SO IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE ABOUT THE ZONING ISSUE ITSELF, SO WE CAN MOVE ON.
UM, EVERYONE ELSE HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO HOLD THEIR COMMENTS, BUT, UM, YOU'VE BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT MINUTES AND WE REALLY NEED TO, MY CONCERNS ARE SOUTH SOUND LIGHTS, UH, AND NOISE AND, UH, TRAFFIC POLLUTION.
AND WHO IS GOING TO, WHO IS GONNA LOOK OVER THAT? WHO'S GONNA BE THE ONE OUT THERE ADMINISTRATING AND TAKING CARE OF THIS? 'CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA BE THE BAD NEIGHBOR CALLING EVERY TIME THEY'RE PLAYING MUSIC AT MIDNIGHT, OR THE DECAL RATING IS TOO HIGH, OR THEY'VE GOT PEOPLE PARKED IN THE STREET WHO'S GONNA BE OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC IF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET IN THERE.
WHO DOES THAT? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT HAPPENS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN EAST EDMOND, WHEN IT GETS TOO NOISY, WE CALL THE POLICE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT A, OKAY, SO YOU WANT ME TO CALL THE POLICE EVERY TIME? I THINK IT'S TOO LOUD BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN, WELL, THERE ARE, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT, YES, THEY DO THAT.
BUT THESE ARE THINGS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU'RE TOO EARLY IN THE PROCESS.
THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THIS AND AS THEY WORK ON THEIR SITE PLAN, TRY TO MITIGATE THAT.
SO WHAT'S THE DECAL RATING IN EDMOND? I JUST TOLD YOU WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THEIR SITE PLAN BRINGS US AND THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR ORDINANCES TO GET SITE PLAN P PASSED.
SO WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION FILED, YOU KNOW, GENERATED? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS JUST START, OR, WELL, THEY HAVE TO GET A ZONING CHANGE FIRST BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN REALLY START, PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR US.
WE DO A ZONING CHANGE AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY GOTTA DO.
NO, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT, BUT WE DON'T SEE IT UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN.
BUT WE CHANGE THE ZONING OR WE CHANGE THE ZONING, THEN WE ASK THEM OR TELL 'EM WHAT THEY GOTTA DO.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SITE FOR A PUD, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE BRINGING CERTAIN PIECES OF INFORMATION TO US.
AND THEN THEY'LL ADD TO THAT WHEN THEY GO TO THE SITE PLAN STAGE AGE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO GET IT REZONED AND THEN WE TRY TO FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT.
NO, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ADD TO IT WHEN THEY BRING THE SITE PLAN TO US.
SIR, I THINK YOU'VE TAKEN UP ENOUGH OF THIS COUNCIL'S TIME THIS EVENING.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. MAYOR, I'M GONNA NEED YOU TO HELP A FELLOW OUT.
UH, CAN WE RECESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TILL 7:06 PM YES, SIR.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I'M MAKING THAT MOTION.
SECOND, ADD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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I VOTE YES.A MOTION TO RECONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE THE EDMUND CITY COUNCIL.
GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? HELLO, GOOD EVENING.
UM, I'VE BEEN AN EDMOND RESIDENT NOW FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
UM, GREW UP IN EDMOND PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
UM, WENT TO LOCAL COLLEGES AROUND HERE.
UM, AND I STILL, UH, LOCALLY, I LIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EDMOND.
UM, OBVIOUSLY NOT NEARLY AS CLOSE TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE TOO, THE EVENT SPACE.
UM, BUT I WANNA SPEAK ON, UH, MY FIANCE AND I'S BEHALF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE SHOW FULL SUPPORT FOR THIS VENUE.
UM, A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY, SO I WON'T REPEAT THAT.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC GROWTH, UM, THE LOCAL JOBS, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA HELP OUT.
UM, BUT, UH, IN TERMS OF WEDDING VENUES AROUND HERE, UM, MY FIANCE AND I, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY PLAN TO GET MARRIED AT 66 VINES.
UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, LOOKING AT VENUES, UM, AROUND THE STATE, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING LIKE IT.
UM, AND SO OUR GOAL, UM, HOPEFULLY IF THIS PASSES RIGHT, IS TO GET MARRIED THERE AND START OUR LIFE THERE.
AND SO, UM, I ASK THAT YOU GUYS LOOK AT THAT AND, UH, IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HUNDRED OR THOUSANDS, MAYBE COUPLES THAT ARE GONNA GET MARRIED THERE IN THE FUTURE IF IT DOES PASS.
UM, IT'S A LOT OF HAPPY LIFE STARTED THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT TO IT, UM, IN TERMS OF JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IT'S GONNA BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, I WOULD SAY FOR THE MOST PART, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
UM, IT'S NOT SOME HUGE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN.
UM, I KNOW THE OWNERS OF 66 VINES HAVE BEEN VERY CORDIAL, UM, VERY TRANSPARENT ON WHAT'S GONNA BE GOING ON THERE.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS FROM IT.
ANYONE ELSE? HI, I AM SUSAN STARNES, A LONG LIFETIME RESIDENT OF EDMOND.
UM, I ACTUALLY CAME HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE FLORIST ALREADY SAID, SO I WON'T REPEAT ANY OF THAT.
I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND I DEFINITELY VALUE THAT.
UM, BUT MY DAUGHTER JUST GOT MARRIED THIS WEEKEND, AND I WILL SAY IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A WEDDING VENUE.
UM, WE, THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP ON OU, TEXAS WEEKEND.
IT WAS NOT IDEAL FOR ANYBODY, BUT WE BOOKED IT A YEAR AGO AND THE ONLY WEEKEND WE COULD GET WAS OU TEXAS WEEKEND.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP WHERE WE DID.
WE DID HAVE A WEDDING IN EDMOND, AND, UM, THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE ON SITE.
UM, SO TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, WE DID HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER TO HANDLE ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT COME UP.
UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A, I HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH A WEDDING COSTS.
SO THEY OUTREACH THAT THAT IS TO SMALL BUSINESSES IS VERY, VERY TREMENDOUS.
UM, SO THERE IS A LOT OF UPLIFT, I THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY FROM HOTELS TO CATERERS, TO FLOS TO MUSICIANS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, ALSO TO, I THINK A LOT OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A WEDDING VENUE.
SO WE DID HAVE A 400 PERSON WEDDING AS WELL THAT ONLY EQUATED TO ABOUT A HUNDRED VEHICLES.
UM, AND WE WERE ABLE TO VERY EASILY MANAGE THEM.
AND THE LOCATION THAT WE HAD, IT'S ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER TO HOMES THAN THIS IS.
AND THERE WAS NOT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SWEET GRANDPARENTS COMING IN.
THE SOUND ORDINANCE WAS NOT OUTTA CONTROL.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, IT'S A WEDDING.
IT'S A VERY LOVELY RELAXED EVENT.
I THINK IT'S THE EXACT KIND OF PLACE THAT WE SHOULD SEE HERE IN EDMOND.
ANYONE ELSE? MY NAME IS MAYOR COUNCIL.
BORN AND RAISED IN EDMOND NORTHEAST, BUT FOUR MILES NORTH THE HERE.
SO VERY TRIED AND TRUE CLOSE TO ME, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN NOW LIVING IN OKC, I'VE BEEN IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY SINCE MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING IN RESTAURANTS AND WHEN IT COMES TO BARTENDING AND SERVICE, THE AMOUNT OF OUTREACH AND JOBS THAT YOU GET FOR PRIVATE EVENT BARTENDING, UH, YOUR KITCHEN STAFF, YOUR SERVERS, YOUR BUSERS, I MEAN, IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAN ANYONE CAN HARP ON UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE INDUSTRY.
AND SPECIFICALLY TO HARP ON BARTENDING, YOU KNOW, LAST MEETING WE HAD SOME CURRENT CONCERNS JUST TALKING, TALKING ABOUT CALL BEING SERVED.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT YOU NOW HAVE TO GO THROUGH
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IN PERSON TO GET CERTIFIED TO BE AN EVENT BARTENDER HAS EXPONENTIALLY RISEN SINCE JULY THIS YEAR WHEN YOU CHANGED THAT LAW WITH THE MARISSA MORROW ACT, I MEAN, ALL OF OUR BARTENDERS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED WITH IN-PERSON TRAINING TO EVEN BE ABLE TO SERVE IT.AND IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG, YOU KNOW, YOU AS A BARTENDER LOSE YOUR LICENSE AND THAT'S YOUR LIVELIHOOD.
SO THE AMOUNT OF JOBS THAT COME OUTTA THIS, IT'S SUCH A FUN OUTREACH.
LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, UH, WEDDINGS THE MOST FUN TRANQUIL DAY.
AND WHILE I KNOW IT SEEMS HECTIC WITH 400 PEOPLE, UH, NOTHING'S MORE, UH, HONED IN THAN A 300 TO 400 PERSON WEDDING ON A TIGHT SCHEDULE.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DAYS YOU CAN BE A PART OF.
ANYONE ELSE? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THESE ISSUES? DO WE, OH, WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT IN BACK.
AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY REALLY QUICKLY THAT I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
MY HUSBAND IS A VIDEOGRAPHER, AND THEN I AM ALSO IN HOSPITALITY AND BAKING SPECIFICALLY.
AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT PASS.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THESE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP? YES, I'VE, UH, CREATED A LIST HERE AND I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE, THEN I'LL LET TODD HANDLE A COUPLE OF 'EM.
UH, HE'S THEIR ARCHITECT WITH HSC TODD EDMONDS.
SO FIRST OF ALL, THE, UH, THE WATER WELL ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IT IS, THERE'S NO CITY PUBLIC WATER RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE WILL BE WATER WELLS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE WRB AND ALSO ODEQ PERMITTING, UM, AS WELL AS THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS, WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE AEROBIC OR SEPTIC, UH, FIELDS, WHICH WILL HAVE ALSO HAVE TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH O-O-D-E-Q, OKLAHOMA ENVIRONMENTAL PRO ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRE THERE.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN ONSITE FIRE SUPPRESSION AND STORAGE TANK.
SO THIS WILL BE A PRIVATE SELF-CONTAINED FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, ONSITE FIRE HYDRANTS, AND BOTH THE COMMERCIAL, UH, BOTH OF THE, UH, THE VENT CENTER AND THE TASTING ROOM WILL HAVE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS. AND THEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY ACCESS TO ALL THESE FACILITIES WILL HAVE TO BE, UM, ACCESSIBLE VIA EMERGENCY VEHICLES, WHICH IS 20 FOOT WIDE FIRE LANES THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.
UM, AND TRASH SERVICE, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE EDMUND, UM, TRASH SERVICE OR THEY'LL, THEY POTENTIALLY MAY HAVE A PRIVATE TRASH SERVICE COME PICK UP THE TRASH.
UH, JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE OFF SCHEDULING.
THEY MAY, MAY HAVE TO GO TO THE, TO THE PRIVATE SYSTEM JUST 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE PICKED UP MAYBE ON THE REGULAR SCHEDULE AS THE ADMIN SERVICE WOULD PROVIDE.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS I HAD HERE.
UM, TODD'S GONNA SPEAK TO THE SOUND AND ALSO THE LIGHTING.
UH, IT'S KIND OF MORE ON THE ARCHITECTURAL SIDE OF HIM.
UH, YES, MY NAME IS TODD EDMONDS.
I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH HSE ARCHITECTS.
I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, I'LL JUST TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS.
AS DEAN MENTIONED, THE SOUND, UH, MITIGATION, UH, WE HAD MENTIONED, UH, DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT THE, UH, THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SITE, THERE WILL BE, UH, THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE SET ABOUT NINE FEET LOWER THAN THE EXISTING GRADE AROUND THAT.
AND THAT IS TO KIND OF HELP CREATE KIND OF A BOWL TO HELP MITIGATE THE TRANSFER OF SOUND.
THERE WILL ALSO BE, UH, SIX TO EIGHT FOOT FENCING AROUND, UH, THE PROPERTY WHERE IT ADJOINS THE DEVELOPED PART, THE 11 ACRES THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED WHERE IT ADJOINS THE ADJACENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
THERE WILL ALSO BE LANDSCAPING, UH, TREES PLANTED AT 25 FEET ON CENTER, UH, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING, UH, GRAPEVINES THAT WILL BE PLANTED ALL AROUND, UH, THESE BUILDINGS THAT WILL HELP ALSO TO ABSORB AND MITIGATE THE SOUND.
UH, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE, THEY WILL PROVIDE, UH, MONITORING FOR THE DECIBEL LEVELS.
THERE WILL BE MONITORS, UH, IN INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY THAT WILL HELP TO MONITOR THE DECIBEL LEVELS SO THEY CAN, UH, TELL WHEN, IF AND WHEN IT EVER GETS, UH, ABOVE A CERTAIN LEVEL.
AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THE LIGHTING.
AND SO WE WOULD, UH, INSTALL LIGHTING THAT MEETS THE CITY OF EDMOND, UH, LIGHTING ORDINANCE.
UH, WHICH ALSO, UH, INCLUDES MINIMIZING LIGHT SPILLOVER ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES.
UH, IT WILL USE OUTDOOR LIGHTING WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE LIGHTS SHALL UTILIZE SHIELDS, SHADES, AND OTHER APPROPRIATE METHODS OF DIRECTING LIGHT.
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UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR DEAN, DEAN OR MYSELF.OH YEAH, THE PARKING, UH, ALL OF THE PARKING WILL BE ON SITE.
THERE WILL BE NO OFFSITE PARKING.
UH, IF THERE, IF THE CURRENT PARKING, UH, THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR IS NOT AT ADEQUATE, WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING TO THE WEST OF THE EVENT CENTER.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY PLANNING FOR ABOUT 200 SPACES AND FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR 50 PEOPLE, THAT SHOULD BE ADEQUATE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO A, TO A WEDDING, TYPICALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING BY YOURSELF OR YOU'RE UBERING.
SO, UH, WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF, OF PARKING PLAN FOR THE, FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHO TO ADDRESS THIS TO, BUT MAYBE DEAN, YOU MIGHT BE THE ONE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST MET, WE TALKED ABOUT OUTREACH TO THE RESIDENCE AND IT OBVIOUSLY, YOU, YOU, YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOLLOWED THE STATE STATUTE TO 300 FEET.
DID YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TO 400 FEET TO GET 10, OR DID IT WAS 300 FEET AND ENOUGH, WE WENT OUT 300 FEET AND GOT OVER 10.
AND WE SENT CERTIFIED LETTERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS DELIVERED.
DID YOU THINK ABOUT GOING A LITTLE FURTHER AND TALKING TO SOME THAT DIDN'T FALL INTO 300 FEET? I KNOW THE OWNER HAS REACHED OUT TO OTHERS IN THE AREA.
AS FOR HOW FAR HE WENT OUT, I DO NOT KNOW.
UH, BUT WITH THE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE, THE, THE TWO, UM, EVENTS AT THE CHICKEN SHACK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE HAD HAD REACHED OUT TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND OBVIOUSLY WORKED IT SURROUND.
SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THAT.
AS LONG AS WE DID THE MIN, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE MINIMUM WAS, WAS DONE.
UH, BUT A LOT OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL FACILITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORD AROUND TOWN.
A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T
A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE, BUT PROBABLY HAD MORE HERE TONIGHT THAN YOU DID AT THE CHICKEN SHACK.
UH, I THINK THERE WERE TWO, MAYBE THREE TALKED ABOUT FIREARMS DISCHARGE.
WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? I DO NOT.
THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THAT, SIR.
WHAT ABOUT SOME TREE REMOVAL ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY? THAT IS, AGAIN, SOMETHING I HAVE TO ASK THE HONOR.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OFF SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
MAYBE THAT FELLA STANDING UP THERE, HE SEEMS ANXIOUS.
I JUST, UH, ZACH BARTON WAS SIX SIX FINE.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO GET THE ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS.
UH, IN REGARDS TO FIREARMS, I'M NOT PERSONALLY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, EXCESSIVE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS ON OUR PROPERTY.
UM, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT EXCESSIVE, I'M TALKING ABOUT DID SOMEBODY FIRE A I CAN, I CAN ADDRESS IT HERE.
UH, UH, I CAN'T WHAT ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR.
UH, PARTICULAR TO OUR, OUR PROPERTY, I'M UNAWARE OF.
I'M OUT THERE, I'M OUT THERE A FEW DAYS A WEEK.
I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PREDATORS OUT THERE, BOBCATS AND THE LIKE.
UM, FRANKLY, I HEAR FIREARMS OCCASIONALLY, ESPECIALLY DURING DEER SEASON.
IT'S IN THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA.
I'M NOT SURE HOW IT COULD BE PINPOINTED TO US SPECIFICALLY.
I CAN'T EXPAND TOO MUCH ON THAT BECAUSE I'M ON A FAMILIAR WITH IT.
UM, YOU DID HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS TREE REMOVAL ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY? YEAH.
WE'VE NEVER VIOLATED OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.
WE DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DOWN DOWN TREES ON THE NORTHERN BORDER, UH, WHICH BELONGS TO, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO SPOKE EARLIER.
UH, THEY, THEY HAVE FALLEN ONTO OUR PROPERTY.
WE MAY HAVE CUT THEM BACK, BUT WE WOULD NEVER, WE WOULD NEVER ENCROACH ON THEIR PROPERTY LINES.
'CAUSE THE HEAD OF FELLOW EMAILED ME AND HE SAID 66 VINES ENTERED MY PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMISSION AND CUT DOWN TREES ALONG MUCH OF MY HALF MILE FENCE LINE.
THEY THEN THREW THE TREES, THE CUT TREES AND DEBRIS BACK ONTO MY PROPERTY LEAVING SURFACE DAMAGE.
IS THAT FACT FICTION OR A MISUNDERSTANDING? I, I FIND THAT ABSOLUTELY FICTION.
UH, WE, WE, WE, AGAIN, WE JUST AS A FAMILY, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO LOCAL RESIDENTS.
WE LIVE NOT TOO FAR AWAY AT ALL.
WE WANT, UH, AN AMICABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYBODY.
AND, UH, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO STIR THE POT, SO TO SPEAK.
SO I WOULD SAY ABSOLUTELY NEVER WOULD WE GO ONTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY AND TO COST THEIR TREES.
AND IF THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THAT, UH, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE INVESTIGATED.
BUT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT, UH, INVOLVED IN THAT.
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I, I THINK THAT THE OUTREACH WAS, I WOULDN'T SAY POOR, BUT IT WASN'T VERY GOOD.I THINK YOU COULD HAVE DONE BETTER ON THAT.
WELL, HELL, YOU KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUT THERE.
YOU DON'T, YOU CAN'T GET MUCH IN 300 FEET.
WE, I THINK, UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE IT TO BE 17 SEPARATE, UH, RESIDENCES THAT WE DID GET AN INVITATION TO.
I BELIEVE 7 8, 8 SHOWED UP, UH, SEVEN IN FAVOR.
ONE WAS MR. GILLESPIE, WHO, UH, SPOKE EARLIER.
UM, JUST TO NOTE, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS AND WE DO OUR BEST TO ADDRESS THEM, ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY US.
UM, I DO WISH THAT MORE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN OPPOSITION, HAD SHOWED UP, GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
WOULD YOU LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO WELL, HERE I AM.
WELL, AND, UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE CHICKEN SHACK.
UH, BUT I SAT THERE FOR ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE HOURS IN TOTAL WAITING FOR PEOPLE.
WELL, I I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOUR CULINARY TASTE.
I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU'D WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THESE FOLKS.
I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY THEY HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBERS AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UH, MAKE A SECOND OR THIRD ATTEMPT AT, AT SITTING DOWN AND HAVING AN AMICABLE CONVERSATION.
UH, WHAT'S THAT MEAN TO YOU? YOU WANNA, YOU WANT, YOU WANNA HAVE A LITTLE TOWN HALL MEETING ABOUT THIS? I WOULD LIKE, UH, ALL THE RESIDENTS NEARBY TO GET THE ANSWERS THAT, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
I KNOW THEY VOICE CONCERNS TODAY.
I THINK WE'RE DOING A RELATIVELY DECENT JOB OF ADDRESSING THOSE.
BUT I, WE, WE ARE, WE ARE FULLY AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH ANY OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE IF THIS COMES TO FRUITION, AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO GIVE PEACE A CHANCE OUT HERE, I, I'M TIRED OF THIS FIGHTING.
I'M TIRED OF ONE PERSON SAYING ONE AND ONE HEARING ANOTHER.
WE ALL NEED TO BE SINGING FROM THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC AND WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE.
AND I'VE TALKED TO MR. TRUDEN, HE'S MY FRIEND, AND I'VE, THEY, THEY TRIED TO DO THEIR BEST ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK HE DID WELL ENOUGH.
I DON'T, I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON SOME ACREAGE NORTH OF YOU AND WEST OF YOU AND SOUTH OF YOU, WHEREVER IT MAY BE, THAT HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL, YOU GOTTA HAVE BUY-IN FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
I, I, I WAS, I'M HAPPY THAT THE, THE OWNER OVER THERE SHOWED UP TODAY.
SO I'LL ABSOLUTELY EXCHANGE CONTACT INFORMATION.
I I'M NOT SURE IF SHE RECEIVED A LETTER, IF THERE'S NO MAILBOX AT THAT PROPERTY, I'M NOT SURE.
UH, THE RESIDENT TO THE NORTH HERE, AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE AMICABLE IN A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP.
UM, I FEEL THAT HER TESTIMONY HERE TODAY WAS RATHER ACCUSATIONAL AND UN UNSUBSTANTIATED.
I'D LOVE TO SEE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIATE SOME OF THESE CLAIMS. BUT, UH, I CAN'T SEEMING CAN'T SEEM TO COERCE HER INTO A MEETING OR HER HUSBAND.
SO I'M NOT, YOU CAN'T, WHAT? I CAN'T SEEM TO CONVINCE THEM TO SIT DOWN FOR A MEETING.
WE'VE, THERE'S BEEN PHONE CALLS, TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN OWNERSHIP AND THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.
UH, THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK WITH ME.
UH, THOUGH THEY ARE VERY VOCAL IN THIS CHAMBER.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE REMEDY WOULD BE TO THAT.
SO LET ME ASK, UH, I'M CONCERNED NOT FOR YOU, MR. BRIAN, I'M CONCERNED FOR YOU.
UH, I'M CONCERNED FOR THE CITY OF EDMOND, WE ESTABLISH COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.
PART OF THAT IS TWO NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS.
I SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME, MR. TROJAN, ESPECIALLY ROCHELLE.
I KNOW SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS LIVE 650 FEET AWAY.
I MEAN EMAIL, CERTIFIED MAIL THAT WAS SENT AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
WHEN HAS THE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE BEEN MET? AND WHEN IT'S MET, IT'S MET.
IF YOU LIVE FIVE MILES AWAY AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T COME, THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR COMPLIANCE REGULATIONS.
I I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE RECONCILE THAT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS.
I, I WANT NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE A PART OF IT AND TO BE INFORMED, UH, TO BE PERSUADED IF POSSIBLE, TO HAVE FEEDBACK.
BUT WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY IS MET, WHEN WE'VE DONE IT, HOW MANY EXTRA EXTRA MILES DO WE GO BEFORE I TELL YOU, OKAY, YOU GOTTA HAVE FOUR MORE OF THESE.
AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING ANOTHER ONE, BUT NOT
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SOLELY TO STRING OUT A PROJECT THAT SHOULDN'T BE.AND AS A CITY, WE HAVE TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF WHEN THAT'S MET AND WHEN IT CEASES TO BE AN ISSUE ANY LONGER.
WE'RE GETTING NOTHING DONE BECAUSE OF IT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN RECONCILE RIFLES AND RVS WITH ANY OF THIS.
I I WOULD SAY THAT THIS PROJECT, IF IT GETS DEVELOPED, IT CUTS DOWN ON THAT.
'CAUSE NOBODY'S SHOOTING RIGHT NEXT TO THE, TO THE WEDDING CHAPEL.
SO THE VENUE TAKES CARE OF A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, UH, SOUND NOISE.
BUT SOUND AND NOISE, TRAFFIC AND LIGHTS.
YOU KNOW, AS I LOOKED AT THIS, I THOUGHT, MAN, I CANNOT THINK OF A PROJECT WHERE SOMEBODY'S BUILDING 15 FEET HIGH BERMS WITH 300 JUNIPER TREES PLACED ON TOP OF THEM AND AN EIGHT FOOT SOLID WOOD FENCE.
THAT'S NOT AS ADEQUATE AS ANY PROJECT WE PUT TOGETHER HERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S GOING A LONG WAYS.
I, I COMMEND, I COMMEND THE OWNERS FOR THE EFFORTS THEY'VE MET PERSONALLY, WALKING AROUND TO NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT JUST CALLING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO A COUPLE OF THEM WHERE THE FACT BECAME FICTION, THAT THEY WERE DISSATISFIED.
I CALLED THEM UP, ARE YOU DISSATISFIED HERE? ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY BEING DIMINISHED AND DEVALUED? YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC.
AND IN FACT, THEY'VE BEEN SO FANTASTIC.
I KNOW, I KNOW EAST TEDMAN, IT'S VERY SENSITIVE.
IT'S SOMETIMES NOT A QUESTION OF NOT THIS, THEN THIS.
IT'S IF NOT THIS, I WANT NOTHING.
AND FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TWO YEARS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FIVE YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 30 YEARS, BUT IT'S NEVER GONNA BE NOTHING.
AND SO OUR JOB IS WITH DISCIPLINED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS THAT DO GO IN BLEND, THAT THEY UNIQUELY FIT EAST EDMOND.
AND I CANNOT THINK OF, AND I'VE TRIED, I CAN'T THINK OF A PROJECT, LISTEN, IT'S A PARK.
I CAN'T THINK OF A PROJECT OF 40 ACRES, 35 IN TOTAL SURROUNDING THAT, WHERE ONLY 11 OF THOSE ACRES ARE DEVELOPED.
I'M A LITTLE, I'M ALL OVER THAT.
IF I LIVE THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S A PROJECT I WANNA LIVE NEXT TO.
NOT THE 200 OR 300 HOUSE SUBDIVISION THAT COULD BE THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I'M, I'M INTERESTED, TODD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TEACH ME SOMETIME MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, INTEGRATED SOUND LEVEL LIMITING SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT NOVO, IT'S USED IN OUR CARS.
UH, SPEED CONTROL IN YOUR CARS, THE SAME KIND OF TECHNOLOGY AND SAME, SAME KIND OF DEAL.
BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, I I LOOK AT THE ALCOHOL SAFETY CONTROL.
THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PLANNING THE LIGHTING BARRIERS, THE BUFFERS, THE SOUND.
UM, YOUR EFFORTS ARE COMMENDABLE WITH THIS PROJECT.
IF THIS IS NOT A PROJECT FIT, ESPECIALLY FOR NOT ONLY EAST EDMOND, BUT FOR EDMUND IN GENERAL, UPSCALE ENHANCED, NOT, NOT PRESERVING ENHANCED LANDSCAPING BEAUTY.
THEY ALREADY HAVE INQUIRIES AND PEOPLE FROM VIRGINIA, TENNESSEE, LOUISIANA, AND TEXAS.
WE WANT PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE EDMUND COMING TO EDMUND AND SPENDING MONEY.
THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING TO SPEND IT THERE.
UM, WE, WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND, AND WE LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK COUNCILMAN MOORE SAID EARLIER, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL GET SCARED BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWN.
I MEAN, THIS THING'S LAID OUT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH UNKNOWN LEFT HERE.
UH, IT'S AS DETAILED AS I'VE SEEN.
I JUST WANNA SAY, ESPECIALLY I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS YOU GUYS HAVE MADE GOING AROUND TO NEIGHBORS, WALKING TO NEIGHBORS, CALLING NEIGHBORS, NOT JUST YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTION MEETINGS.
I THINK YOU'VE GONE THE EXTRA MILE.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS?
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I AGREE WITH HIM.I THINK EFFORTS WERE MADE HERE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS ALL WE ASK.
I THINK THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT FOR OUR CITY.
I, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUBSTANTIAL CONVERSATION.
AND I THINK, SORRY, I DON'T USUALLY SOUND LIKE THIS.
UM, A COUNCIL MEETING THAT'S EMPTY IS NOT WHAT ANY OF US WANT.
UM, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND FEEL HEARD.
UM, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT SOME PEOPLE JUST FOUND ABOUT, I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT TODAY.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, 300 FEET AWAY IS MORE OF THEIR LAND.
UM, SO IT IS A, IT'S A DIFFICULT POSITION TO BE IN BECAUSE, UM, I THINK I CAN WEIGH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID HERE TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE THERE TO CONTINUE TO BE CONVERSATION.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE OPEN TO HOSTING, I THINK THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, UM, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, THE REGULATORY NOTIFICATION ZONE.
BUT MAYBE A FRIENDLY NOTIFICATION, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU COULD START THAT CONVERSATION, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THIS AREA IS, UH, SPECIAL.
UM, I THINK SOMETHING WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT TIME AND PLACE.
IT COULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I, I APPRECIATE THE WAY THIS LAND IS.
THE PLAN IS PRESERVING NATURE.
SO I I I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.
I I ALSO ECHO WHAT BARRY SAID.
I WANT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO BE AT PEACE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
UM, YOU CAN'T DISCHARGE A FIREARM AND THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, SO IF THERE ARE CODE VIOLATIONS, CALL 'EM IN.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
UM, YEAH, I, I I HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO FEEL HEARD.
UM, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AS MUCH AS IT'S POSSIBLE WITH YOU.
SO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, OF THIS PLAN.
I'VE LIVED IN EAST EDMOND FOR 26 YEARS NOW.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVEN BEFORE I MOVED EAST OF THE INTERSTATE, HOW WE DEVELOP EAST EDMOND HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN EAST EDMOND.
WE WENT THROUGH A FAIRLY LENGTHY PROCESS WITH THE MCCLENDON FAMILY TRUST AND THE ARCADIA FARMS PROJECT, WHICH IS IN THIS SAME AREA.
AND THEY HAVE MADE AN INCREDIBLE EFFORT TO MAINTAIN AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT MAY TAKE, TO BE QUITE HONEST, 20, 25 YEARS TO BE COMPLETELY FINISHED JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT.
THIS ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN 12 MONTHS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING.
WELL, DOES IT MATTER IF IT'S 12 MONTHS OR IF IT'S 20, 25 YEARS BEFORE IT HAPPENS? NO, BUT TO ME THE BIG DEAL IS IT'S THE LESS DENSITY.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW WE WANT EAST EDMOND TO BE LESS DENSE.
AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAT UP HERE AND WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO US BEFORE TONIGHT HAVE SAID IT COULD BE A SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH 200 PLUS HOMES IN IT.
YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THE FACT THAT FOR A CHANGE, WE ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY DID THAT REQUIRED NOTIFICATION.
I SAY WE, THE, THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE DID.
THEY KNOCKED ON DOORS AND THEY SAT AND TALKED TO PEOPLE.
AND IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE DIFFICULT IN EAST EDMOND TO GET EVERYBODY IN AN AREA IF YOUR PROPERTY IS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS PROPERTY.
IF YOU DIDN'T GET A LETTER, THE QUESTION IS, WHY DIDN'T YOU GET A LETTER? BECAUSE MR. BRYANT, DON'T WE PROVIDE THAT LIST OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OFF OF COUNTY RECORDS, SIR? SO YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN ONE IF YOU DIDN'T.
WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT JUST REMEMBER, THIS IS THE
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FIRST STEP.AND IF THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, WE'VE STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
WE'VE GOTTA GET A PLAT DEVELOPED FOR THIS.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT STILL HAVE TO BE DONE, AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH ISSUES AND CONCERNS.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU IF I'M LOOKING AT IT SAYING, I CAN HAVE THIS WHERE WE'RE DEVELOPING, I BELIEVE IT'S 11 OUT OF 40 ACRES, OR I CAN HAVE 200 HOMES.
I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING FOR EVERY TIME BECAUSE I WANT TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THIS BEAUTY IN EAST EDMONDS WE CAN GET.
SO YEAH, I'M, I'M REALLY FOR THIS AND I'M, I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED FOR THE FACT THAT, THAT YOU ALL FOLLOWED COUNCILMAN MOORE'S RECOMMENDATION OF MEETING WITH PEOPLE AND GETTING THOSE LETTERS OUT THERE AND HOLDING MEETINGS ACCORDING TO WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE A STRUGGLE IN EAST EDMOND.
AND WE'VE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA WORK OUR WAY THROUGH IT.
BUT WE CAN'T JUST KEEP PUSHING STUFF OUT BECAUSE ONE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP AT MEETINGS TO, TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE LANDMASS WE HAVE EAST OF THE INTERSTATE.
BUT I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE PARTICIPATION WE'VE HAD IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT.
PEOPLE HAVE COME AND VOICED THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR SUPPORT, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
SO WE GOT ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I DO.
UH, MR. MAYOR, I, THAT WAS THE ONE THING I ASKED FOR WAS STRONG OUTREACH.
I THINK THEY'VE, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE IT WELL ENOUGH.
I THINK IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL THING.
AND I HOPE ALL THE COUPLES THAT STOOD UP AND SAID THEY'RE GONNA GET MARRIED OUT THERE, GET MARRIED OUT THERE SOMEDAY, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER ON OUR OUTREACH.
AND I HEARD COUNCILMAN FRAME TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND I, I BELIEVE, AND I KNOW IT TO BE TRUE, THAT YOU COULD ONLY DO SO MUCH.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT IS VERY TOUCHY AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO HAVE THESE CHATS AND THOSE THAT LIVE ON AN ACREAGE THAT ADJOINS THE LAND THAT DIDN'T GET A LETTER.
'CAUSE THE, THE LAW SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET A LETTER IF THEY REACH 10 PEOPLE WITHIN 300 FEET.
I SUSPECT WHEN WE, AND I, I'LL ASK THE ACTING CITY ATTORNEY AT SOME POINT, NOT TONIGHT, BUT WHEN WE AND MR. BRIAN, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON OUR UPDATED CODE, UH, STATE STATUTE REQUIRES 300 FEET.
WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT, CAN'T WE? ISN'T THAT A POSSIBILITY, MR. BRIAN? MAKE IT 400 FEET, 500 FEET, WHATEVER WE WANT, WHATEVER WILL PASS FOUR MONTHS.
I I I APPLAUD THE DEVELOPERS FOR THEIR EFFORTS ON TRYING TO MAKE IT A BEAUTIFUL SPOT AND THE TREES THAT THEY'RE GONNA SAVE AND ALL THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO.
AND WE'LL SEE THAT DOWN THE ROAD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I MEAN, 17 MAILINGS AND TWO MEETINGS IS NOT NO OUTREACH.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[L. Case No. Z26-00017; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4105 Rezoning Certain Property Located at 10609 E 33rd Street from “G-A” General Agricultural to “R-1” Rural Estate District and Providing an Effective Date. (Clem; Ward 2)]
FOUR ONE.CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 7 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 5 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 6 0 9 EAST 33RD STREET FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO R ONE RURAL ESTATE DISTRICT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION NORTH OF 33RD EAST OF POST NEARBY ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OUR ZONE GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURAL AND DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED L TWO LAKE RESIDENTIAL AND IS COVERED BY THE LAKE DISTRICT.
SUPPLEMENTAL DESIGN STANDARDS IS DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ZONED R ONE RURAL ESTATE DISTRICT AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A BUYRIGHT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL USES ON LARGE,
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ON RELATIVELY LARGE LOTS.THE ADMIN PLAN CATEGORIZES THIS AREA AS RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE REQUESTED DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE AT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026.
PLANNING COMMISSION, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF THREE TO ZERO.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? IS THIS AN EVEN SPLIT? I MEAN WE'RE, WHEN WE SPLIT IT IN HALF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROUGHLY THREE ACRES.
IS THAT THE IDEA WITHOUT JUMPING INTO THE PACKET TOO DEEP? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEING THEN, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO, COUNSEL? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[M. Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4106 Amending Chapter 2.90 of the Edmond Municipal Code, Community Policing Board, by Modifying Section 2.90.011 - Purpose, Section 2.90.050 - Committees, and Section 2.90.100 - Functions; Providing for Repealer and Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. (Citywide)]
5 0 4 M.PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 6, AMENDING CHAPTER 2.90 OF THE EDMOND MUNICIPAL CODE COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD BY MODIFYING SECTION 2.9001 PURPOSE SECTION 2.9 0.050 COMMITTEES AND SECTION 2.90100 FUNCTIONS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
UM, WHO'S SPEAKING TO THIS ONE? CHIEF? NO, BOTH OF YOU.
LUCRECIA FERGUSON ON THE BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD.
UM, SO WE TOOK THE TASK OF UPDATING OUR ORDINANCES THIS YEAR AS WE, UH, WORK ON OUR PARTNERSHIP CONTINUOUSLY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE EDMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO OUR ORDINANCES REFLECT OUR MISSION AND OUR ROLE, AND, UH, AS I STATED TO THE BOARD, IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, SO AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND GROW, WE WILL CHANGE IT AS NEEDED.
SO, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
CHIEF, YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? I THINK I HAVE THE BEST BOARD CHAIR.
I WILL, UH, I'LL JUST CHIME IN HERE.
AND THE, THE LANGUAGE REALLY AND TRULY IS JUST CLEANING UP AND KIND OF QUALIFYING WHAT YOU ALL DO AS A BOARD, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO.
IT, WE BETTER HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE AFTER THAT.
ALSO GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD.
I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND IT.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FIVE, RECESS OF THE EDMUND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
CALL THE ORDER, THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
I GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE ARE NOW IN THE PUBLIC COURTS AUTHORITY MEETING.
ITEM SIX, PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY, GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS THIS EVENING.
UM, UNLESS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THOSE FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.
MR. MOORE, ARE YOU GONNA VOTE ON THIS ONE? I AM.
[9. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM SEVEN.THERE'S NOTHING TO COVER UNDER ITEM SEVEN FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE'RE BACK IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
ITEM NINE, CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE 19 ITEMS TONIGHT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE PULLED, THEN I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL CONSENT ITEMS. UH, 18 OF THEM WITH, UH, EXCLUDING ITEM E.
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MOTION PASSES.WE'RE NOW ON TO ITEM 10, CITY COUNCIL.
ITEMS A IS GONNA BE DISCUSSING NINE E, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF A MAINTENANCE EASEMENT FROM THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE, ALLOWING ACCESS TO USPS PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH BROADWAY AND HERD STREET FOR THE PURPOSE OF UNDERTAKING CERTAIN MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE YELLOW RIBBON SCULPTURE, CUL SCULPTURE.
I CAN ALMOST GET THAT OUT TODAY.
UH, MR. KRIEGER, WOULD YOU GIVE US JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT? UH, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IT IS, AS THE TITLE WOULD IMPLY, IT'S A, UH, AN EASEMENT FOR THE CITY TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE ON THE SCULPTURE AND THE, UH, FOUNTAIN AROUND IT.
IT PROVIDES ACCESS, UH, IT'S PERPETUAL ACCESS.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING, AS I KNOW, YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, THIS HAS BEEN AN ITEM THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME.
WE GOT SOME ASSISTANCE FROM SENATOR LANGFORDS OFFICE.
UM, AND I THINK AT ONE POINT THE INTENT WAS TO GET THIS DONE PRIOR TO THE RECENT MEMORIAL, AND WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO.
BUT THIS WILL GET US ACCESS TO THE, UH, SITE TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE.
AND DID IT GIVE US EVERYTHING WE WANT?
I MEAN, IF THEY WOULD'VE GIVEN US A LITTLE MORE ROOM, UH, TO GET TO AND FROM, IT WOULD'VE HELPED A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO A LITTLE MAINTENANCE UPKEEP ON THE SCULPTURE ITSELF.
PULL IT OFF, TAKE IT OFF SITE, CLEAN IT UP, YES, YES.
AND THEN MAINTAIN, ARE WE GONNA WIND UP MAINTAINING THE, THE FOUNTAIN THEN FULL TIME? IS THAT GONNA FALL UNDER US? THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET, UH, UH, GIVE US THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, THIS IS REALLY JUST GIVING US ACCESS TO, TO GO BUILD ABLE TO MAINTAIN THINGS.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A LARGER CONVERSATION OF THE CITY COUNCILS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'LL JUST SAY, YOU ASKED ABOUT ONCE, I THINK I, AT LEAST FOR ONE, WANT TO HELP IMPROVE THAT SITE AND WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH USPS TO DO SO.
WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES GETTING THAT WORKED OUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BETTER EVENTUALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION APPROVE.
[B. Presentation of Interactive Development Tracker Map. (Citywide)]
ITEM 10 B, PRESENTATION OF INTERACTIVE DEVELOPMENT TRACKER MAP.AND MR. BRYANT, ARE YOU COVERING THIS ONE? YES.
I THOUGHT I'D HAVE TIME TO GET ALL THE WAY UP HERE.
UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BE ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT TRACKER MAP.
AS I'M GETTING STARTED, I THINK, UM, I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT ALL THE CREDIT FOR THIS PROJECT GOES TO OUR GIS TEAM, SOME OF WHICH ARE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY.
SO, ANTONIO, CALL ROB AND LACEY, UM, HAVE DONE ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THIS AND SO MUCH THANKS, UM, TO THEM, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.
HERE'S THE LINK TO THE DEVELOPMENT TRACKER.
UM, THE GOAL OF THIS INTERACTIVE MAP IS TO PROVIDE TIMELY INFORMATION TO EVERYONE, UH, ABOUT APPLICANT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE IN PROCESS AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY APPROVED.
SO, JUST A COUPLE OF SCREENSHOTS HERE.
YOU GET OUR LAUNCH WINDOW WHEN YOU GO TO IT.
UM, IT WORKS ON MOBILE DEVICES AS WELL.
SO, INITIAL VIEW, YOU GET A CITYWIDE VIEW, ALL THE LAYERS ARE TURNED ON.
SO YOU SEE COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS, UM, DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND SIGNS.
SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU ZOOM IN.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT OUTLINES.
SO YOU'RE GONNA, THOSE WILL BE FAMILIAR TO PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW THE DETAILS OF AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE THESE ARE, UM, NOW PULLED TOGETHER ALL ON ONE MAP FOR, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHEN YOU CLICK ON AN ITEM.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, HERE, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, UM, YOU GET THIS, UH, LITTLE POPUP WINDOW, TELLS YOU WHAT IT IS, TELLS YOU THE STATUS OF THAT, UM, THAT PERMIT OR CASE.
YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM THAT THE WAY THAT I'VE, I'VE CLICKED ON IT, I'VE GOT TWO OTHER THINGS TO LOOK AT TO THE ARROWS THERE ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT.
SO YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH TO THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT ITEMS. AND THAT IN THIS CASE, UH, ONE OF THOSE IS THE SITE PLAN.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT LISTED HERE AS WELL.
UM, OF COURSE, THE LEGEND THERE IN THE TOP RIGHT TELLS YOU, UM,
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WHAT ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE SEEING ON THE MAP.AND THEN, UH, NEXT TO THAT IS THE, UH, THE LAYERS AREA.
SO ALL THAT'S TURNED ON BY DEFAULT, BUT YOU CAN TOGGLE THOSE ON AND OFF, UM, AS NEEDED.
AND OF COURSE, UM, WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE OUR AIR PHOTO AVAILABLE AS WELL.
SO IN TERMS OF, UH, WHO WE THINK THIS IS, WILL BE HELPFUL FOR PUBLIC AT LARGE, UM, APPOINTED ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF, IT'S HOPEFULLY A HELPFUL RESOURCE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, AT DIFFERENT, UH, LOCATIONS AROUND TOWN AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE MAY HAVE, UH, SEEN A LETTER ABOUT OR, UM, READ ABOUT ON AN AGENDA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS, ENHANCEMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN MODIFICATIONS ON A GO FORWARD BASIS.
NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF, UM, ESTABLISHED THE TECHNICAL PROCESS, CONNECTING THE, THE PERMITTING SYSTEM TO, UM, TO AN INTERACTIVE MAP.
AND, UM, PUTTING THAT ON THE WEBSITE, A LOT OF CHANGES ARE POSSIBLE.
AND, UM, WE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE AND, AND TRYING TO INCORPORATE THOSE OVER TIME.
THAT'S, THAT CONCLUDES MY FORMAL COMMENTS ON THIS.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS POINT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YEAH.
THANKS TO THE TEAM WHO WORKED ON THIS.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WORKED ON IT, JUST SO WE KNOW.
UH, ONE OF THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS I GET IS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON AT THIS CORNER OR ON THIS LOT? AND I KNOW SOMETIMES JUST 'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR STUFF, BUT THIS'LL BE REALLY HELPFUL.
I CAN JUST POINT PEOPLE TO THIS AND IT'LL, UM, BE EASIER.
UH, REMIND ME, KEN, HOW CAN PEOPLE FIND THIS? I'M LOOKING ON THE MAPS PAGE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE SOFT OPENING OH, OKAY.
SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING.
I THINK THERE'LL BE A NEWS RELEASE ABOUT IT.
IT'LL SHOW UP ON THAT MAPS PAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, THERE'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO INCORPORATE IT ON WHATEVER WEBPAGES, UM, WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
SO YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA SEE IT, A LINK TO IT ANYWHERE, JUST LET US KNOW.
AND YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY TOO, LET'S GET THIS OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SEES IT.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING IN WHERE, WHAT PROJECTS ARE IN WORK.
SO JUST A REALLY USEFUL THING.
SO I'M GLAD WE GLAD YOU ALL DID IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I KNOW I'LL FOR SURE HAVE A LINK ON MY HOMEPAGE BECAUSE IT'S VERY OFTEN THAT PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND START TALKING TO ME ABOUT SOMETHING.
AND I DON'T HAVE AN UNLIMITED MEMORY SPACE, BUT THIS WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME.
I KNOW MARKETING WILL DO A GOOD JOB TO ROLL IT OUT.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IT ROLLED OUT, UM, TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
I THINK THEY, THEY ARE OUR, UM, AMBASSADORS.
THEY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UH, PUBLIC INTERACTIONS, SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THE WORK.
I THINK I MISSED THE MEETING WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM.
[C. Presentation and Discussion of a Draft Scope of Work for a Downtown Master Plan. (Ward 1)]
10 C IS PRESENTATION DISCUSSION OF DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK FOR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.KEN BRYAN, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT, UM, A FAIRLY LENGTHY LIST OF, UH, SCOPE OF WORK.
BULLET ITEMS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO INCLUDE IN A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, UM, SOON FOR, UH, OVERHAUL OR AN UPDATE OR A NEW DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
THIS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AND BUILD ON OUR WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
I WANNA CLARIFY THE GOALS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE MASTER PLAN ITSELF.
SO WE WANT TO CONFIRM OR REESTABLISH THE VISION, VISION FOR DOWNTOWN.
UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOUNDARIES AND SUBDISTRICTS IN THE AREA.
IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRESERVATION, ESPECIALLY, UM, AN ADAPTIVE REUSE.
AND THEN ALIGN OUR LAND USE POLICY AND REGULATION AS APPROPRIATE.
STRENGTHEN DOWNTOWN'S CHARACTER AND IDENTITY AND ECONOMIC VITALITY, IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY, ENHANCE THE PUBLIC REALM, PARKS, PLAZAS, AND GATHERING SPACES.
THAT WAS A, A MAJOR TALKING POINT.
UM, AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK ON, UH, HOUSING, HOUSING SUPPLY AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
STRENGTHEN RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA.
ALWAYS SOMETHING WE'RE OR OR KEEN TO, UH, CONTINUE, CONTINUE EVALUATION OF OUR, OUR TIF DISTRICT AND OTHER POSSIBLE FUNDING TOOLS.
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PHASED IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UM, LEAD DIRECTLY TO POLICY OR PROJECTS AND PARTNERSHIPS.A BRIEF LOOK AT THE PROPOSED STUDY AREA.
THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN WE'RE USED TO THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
UH, THAT'S SOMEWHAT ON PURPOSE.
WE DON'T WANNA LEAVE ANYONE OUT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLDING IN, UH, UCO AND THE AREA THAT IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDS IT AND MAY BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AREA.
WANNA RECOGNIZE, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT IN INFILL THAT'S HAPPENING WEST OF DOWNTOWN, NEAR THE CHITWOOD PARK AREA.
UM, EXPAND, UM, POTENTIALLY EXPAND AS FAR SOUTH AS 15TH STREET.
UM, A ALONG THAT SAME, UH, LINE OF THINKING.
I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THESE BULLETS TO YOU.
I'LL KIND OF HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, UM, BASED ON THE, THE MAJOR TOPICS.
SO, UM, I THINK WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR HERE IS MAKING SURE THAT THIS LIST IS THOROUGH AND COMPLETE.
DO WE MISS ANYTHING, UM, THAT WE HEARD DURING OUR WORKSHOP? IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PRIORITIZE OR HIGHLIGHT OR SPECIFY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT RFQ PROCESS? IF I CAN JUST ADD, AS KEN MENTIONED, UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCOPE.
WE TOLD YOU AT THE WORKSHOP THAT BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE THIS RFQ WERE TO HIT THE STREETS, WE WOULD, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAW THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND YOU BELIEVE IT'S IN ALIGNMENT.
THE OTHER POINT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE'S A SLIDE, UH, BUT WE WANT TO, UH, LOOK AT FORMING A, A, A STEERING COMMITTEE, MAYBE CALLED A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT WE WANT TO ENGAGE, UM, GROUPS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, IN AND AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO BE A PART OF THIS, AND TO HELP US, UH, HELP GUIDE THE EFFORT.
SO AFTER, UH, YOUR GENERAL CONCURRENCE TONIGHT, WE'LL START TAKING, UH, SOME MEASURES TO TRY AND FORM A STEERING COMMITTEE.
UM, SO YES, STRONG COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, UM, REFERENCE THERE TO THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
I GOT A, I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT THAT LATER ON.
UM, AND THEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY WIDE ENGAGEMENT AS, AS WELL.
DOWNTOWN IS A, A RESOURCE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
WE WANNA DO A THOROUGH EXISTING LAND USE ANALYSIS WHENEVER WE START WITH A MASTER PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE, HEAR SOME OF THE TOPICS, UM, THAT WE WANNA ADDRESS.
I THINK I WANNA HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU, UM, EVALUATION OF THE PUBLIC REALM, INCLUDING, UM, FESTIVAL MARKETPLACE, SHANNON MILLER PARK AND STEVENSON PARK.
THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR EXISTING MAJOR PUBLIC, UM, SPACES IN DOWNTOWN.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THOROUGHLY, UM, INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.
I MENTIONED THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE'LL, UH, THAT'LL BE, UM, INFORMED BY THE STAKEHOLDER AND COMMUNITY EFFORTS DISTRICTS AND SUB-DISTRICTS.
UM, WE WANNA BUILD ON ANY OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THESE SUB-DISTRICTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, UNIVERSITY DISTRICT PLAN, YOU KNOW, KINDA LEANED INTO THE CHARACTER AND IDENTITY OF THAT DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME PREVIOUS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WE WANT TO, UH, CONTINUE TO BUILD ON AND STRENGTHEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK WE'RE PROPOSING THAT A, A DETAILED MARKET STUDY BE COMPLETED THAT WOULD BUILD ON, ON THOSE THAT HAVE COME BEFORE, UH, MOST RECENTLY IN THE UNIVERSITY DISTRICT PLAN.
AND THEN, UH, THAT GOES FOR HOUSING AS WELL.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME WORK ON HOUSING, UM, CITYWIDE AND, AND IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND WE WANT TO FURTHER THAT ANALYSIS LOOK TO CLOSE ANY GAPS THAT MAY EXIST AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE BEING LEVERAGED.
UH, LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT, ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF A MASTER PLAN.
LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO LEVERAGE VACANT LAND AND FILL SITES.
UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOSPITALITY IN OUR WORKSHOPS, SO YOU SEE THAT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED HERE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, A DETAILED PLAN FOR THE CITY ON PROPERTIES THAT WE SPENT SOME TIME ON, PUBLIC REALM AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO I, I MENTIONED, UH, THE THREE ASSETS BEFORE, SO THOSE WILL BE FOLDED INTO THIS AS WELL AS POTENTIAL NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.
UM, ALWAYS SEE IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT GATEWAYS, IDENTIFYING AND, UH, LOCATION OF THOSE AND WHAT ENHANCEMENTS MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AS YOU, UM, AS YOU ENTER THE DISTRICT.
SO TRANSPORTATION, THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE, UH, RECENT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE STREETS SCAPE STANDARDS, UM, CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR, UM, INTERCONNECTIVITY OF MULTIMODAL, UM, OPPORTUNITIES,
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UM, LEANING INTO, UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ASSET AS WELL.AND THEN ADDRESSING, UM, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, UH, RAIL CORRIDOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
OF COURSE, YOU WOULDN'T IMAGINE DOING A MASTER PLAN WITHOUT COMING OUT OF THAT WITH SOME DETAILED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, PROJECTS INCLUDING, UM, INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND ANY, UH, STRATEGIES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SUPPORT THOSE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF A MASTER PLAN.
IT SOMETIMES GETS, UM, IT'S HARD TO HIGHLIGHT, IT'S NOT VERY EXCITING.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS WHERE ALL THE WORK COMES IN.
AND SO WE, WE SPEND A LITTLE TIME PROVIDING THAT SPECIFICITY THAT WE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE, UH, RESPONDERS TO OUR RFQ UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTABLE, AND WE WANNA SEE THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THAT PLAN.
SO IN TERMS OF IMMEDIATE NEXT STEPS, WE'LL TAKE FEEDBACK ON THIS LIST FROM THIS EVENING.
WE'LL FINALIZE THAT REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN SOME INITIAL WORK ON ASSEMBLING THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND GETTING SOME TENTATIVE DATES ON CALENDARS OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
AND THEN, UM, THERE'LL BE A SELECTION PROCESS AND NEGOTIATION WITH, UM, SELECTED FIRMS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
MAKE SURE I'VE COVERED ALL THE BULLETS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT AND WE WANNA SEE IN THAT SCOPE.
I TAKE IT BY THAT THOROUGH EXPLANATION.
YOU WERE AT THAT MEETING WHEN THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER.
AND MY, MY FIRST THOUGHT GOING THROUGH MY MIND FLASH WAS, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING SO EXPANDED, IT TAKES OUR EYE OFF THE TOP.
AND THEN I THOUGHT, NO, I MEAN, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
IT'S LARGER THAN I EXPECTED GOING OUT TO LIKE 15TH STREET SOUTH, BUT I KNOW COUNCILMAN WATERSON AND I THINK IT TREMENDOUS WHAT WE'VE DONE DOWNTOWN, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE A WAY TO CATCH UP THAT ENTRYWAY INTO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO BE OR NEEDED IT TO BE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
AND, AND I, I, I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED SOMETHING, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT WHEN WE WENT BACK THROUGH IT SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
I'M A LOT BETTER ON IMPLEMENTATION THAN I AM SOME OF THIS PLANNING BECAUSE I'M MORE OF AN OPERATIONS PERSON.
I SEE SOMETHING AND I IMMEDIATELY THINK, HOW'S THAT GONNA WORK? WHAT, WHAT'S THE 1, 2, 3 STEPS TO GET THERE? BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IN THAT I THINK IS MAYBE NOT ONE, BUT TWO BOUTIQUE HOTELS, AND THAT'S PART OF IMPLEMENTATION.
YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY, I I WASN'T AWARE, AND IT'S POINTED OUT TO ME A COUPLE PEOPLE.
WE RECENTLY, JUST A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD 600 PEOPLE IN TOWN AT THE U-VERSE VERSE, THE BUILDING LIFE CHURCH, 600 PEOPLE.
DID ANY OF THEM STAY HERE? NO.
AND, AND, AND SO THAT KIND OF BUSINESS TRAVELER, KIND OF FRIENDLY HOTEL SUITED FOR THAT, I THINK IS MUCH, MUCH NEEDED.
I, I, I THINK AT THAT CAMPUS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR ONE, BUT ALSO ONE DOWNTOWN.
UM, I KNOW I'VE SAID IT A MILLION TIMES, YOU DON'T NEED TO HEAR ME SAY IT, BUT I'M GOING TO, I MEAN, I HAVE PEOPLE COME IN HERE TO OUR PLACE OF BUSINESS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY STAY DOWNTOWN OKLAHOMA CITY.
IT'S, IT'S MORE ORIENTED TO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THEY'RE USED TO DOING, ESPECIALLY ON, UH, AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT.
SO I THINK THAT THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS, UM, THE ALLEY ACTIVATION AND SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WERE ALONG WITH THAT.
I, I REMEMBER AS, EVEN AS A LITTLE KID, WE HAVE SOME GREAT ALLEYS IN DOWNTOWN AND OTHER PLACES IN EDMOND, BUT, BUT MAN, AT THE VERY BEST, THEY'RE WHAT YOU GO THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE PICTURES HIGHLIGHTED WHAT THEY COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HANG OUT IN AN ALLEY, BUT AT LEAST LIKE, LIKE BEING THERE WHEN YOU'RE PASSING THROUGH IT.
SO, UH, THAT ALLEY ACTIV, ACTIVIZATION AND THEN, UM, THE, THE CAPITAL I IMPLEMENTATION OR THE INPUT TO THAT AND HOW, AND, AND TIFF AND ALL THOSE THINGS, WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT TAKES TIME, BUT, BUT NONE OF THIS STUFF HAPPENS WITHOUT SOME OF THAT PLANNING.
HOW DO WE ATTRACT CAPITAL? HOW DO WE USE OR ASSIST CAPITAL TO BRING IT IN? BECAUSE I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THERE IF WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT AND, AND USE SOME OF THAT.
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I THOUGHT I, THE MORE I WENT THROUGH THIS AND LOOKED AT IT, THE BETTER I LIKED IT.I, IT, HE WASN'T THERE AT THE MEETING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, UM, THIS LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PLAN TO MAKE A PLAN, AND I'M FOR THAT.
UM, I DID JUST, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP.
UM, I'LL ALSO BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT COMES FROM THIS RFQ AND, UM, WHATEVER COMPANY IS INTERESTED, BUT I'M, I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM THE, LIKE THE PASSIVE USER OF DOWNTOWN.
LIKE WE HAVE, WE HAVE STAKEHOLDERS WHO LIVE AND BREATHE OWN PROPERTY, OWN A BUSINESS, BUT I THINK IT'LL BE REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR HOW THEY PLAN TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY WHO INTERACTS WITH, UM, DOWNTOWN AND ALSO THE VISITOR, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANNA KNOW WHY DO THEY, WHY ARE THEY VISITING? UM, AND THEN, UM, WHAT BRINGS THEM BACK.
SO, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT ALL KINDS OF VIEWPOINTS, UM, THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN PROCESS.
YEAH, I THINK IT REALLY REFLECTS THE DISCUSSION OR, UH, COVERS THE DISCUSSION WE HAD REALLY WELL FROM THE WORKSHOP.
SO GOOD JOB TO STAFF FOR AGGREGATING A BUNCH OF RANDOM COMMENTS FROM THAT WORKSHOP, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY GOOD INTO A, A COHESIVE PLAN HERE.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING THAT I MIGHT POINT OUT, OR THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS EMPHASIZED IS THE PUBLIC ART ASPECT.
AND SO, SO MUCH OF OUR DOWNTOWN IS SHAPED BY THE CHARACTER, SHAPED BY OUR PUBLIC ART.
AND THERE'S SOME, UH, UGLY GRAIN SILOS AND SOME THINGS THAT I THINK COULD REALLY LIKE, OR MAYBE JUST BLANK WALLS.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD, COULD BUILD ON THAT CHARACTER, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE FARMER'S MARKET.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS A CONSIDERATION.
BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK GREAT JOB AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS.
[D. Consideration of Authorizing the Mayor to Execute an Engagement Letter with Fuller Tubb Bickford Warmington & Panach, PLLC to Provide Legal Services Related to the Employment of the City Attorney; Up to $50,000.00. (Citywide)]
YOU, SIR.ITEM 10 D CONSIDERATION OF AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH FULLER TUB, BICKFORD, WARMINGTON AND PANACHE PLLC, TO PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY UP TO $50,000.
THIS IS TO COMPLETE OUR REVIEW OF THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE STARTED TWO WEEKS AGO, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO COMPLETE THIS TASK.
UM, THE REASON WHY IT IS AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ENGAGEMENT LETTER IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT REVIEW THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER AND WORK WITH FINANCE TO COMPLETE IT THE WAY WE NEED TO.
I'M, UH, MR. WATERSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A, A THOUGHT AS WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH THE AGENDA PACKET.
I'D LIKE THE FUNDING FOR THIS TO COME OUTTA THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET, UM, RATHER THAN THE, THE CURRENT ACCOUNT.
SO I'D LOVE TO, THAT HAS NO, YEAH, THIS IS NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MOTION.
JUST TO KEEP IT ON THE BACKSIDE, GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF.
UM, BECAUSE COUNSEL IS USING THIS AS SPECIAL COUNSEL TO GUIDE US.
UM, WE'LL THEN BE PAYING FOR IT OUT OF OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS MONEY.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS? I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION I'D MOVE MAYOR TO, UH, AUTHORIZE YOU THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH FULLER TUB AT ALL, UH, FOR LEGAL SERVICES REGARDING AN EMPLOYMENT MATTER UP UP TO $50,000 TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'S, THAT'S A FUNDING PIECE.
[11. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]
ITEM 11, COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR'S MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS TONIGHT? I'LL BE QUICK.
ONE, UH, THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS, EDMOND POST, UH, INVITED ME OUT SATURDAY NIGHT TO WELCOME THE JUNIOR VICE COMMANDER OF THE NATIONAL VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS.
THAT WAS A NICE AFFAIR OUT THERE.
HE WAS IN NORMAN AND EDMOND AND OTHER PLACES, BUT IT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE HIM IN TOWN.
UH, I WANT TO THANK KEN BRYAN.
UH, I HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT.
HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GET BACK AND, UH, AND HELP ME THROUGH THAT.
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BRIAN.AND, AND THEN LAST, I WAS AT SEVEN 11 GETTING A CUP OF COFFEE, WALKING TO MY CAR AND A GUY KEPT HOLLERING AT ME AND I TURNED AROUND AND LOOKED AT HIM AND HE SAID, IS YOUR NAME BARRY? AND I SAID, NO, IT'S PHIL.
HE SAID, DO YOU KNOW KIRSTEN LETTON AT CITY HALL? I SAID, I DO.
AND HE SAID, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, SHE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME AND I APPRECIATE HER WORK.
AND I'M GLAD I GOT THE CREDIT FOR THAT.
COUNSEL
SO THANKS THAT, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN HELPFUL THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL THINGS AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND STUFF, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER IT CAN BE HELPFUL.
YEAH, THE SUNDAY BEFORE LAST WAS CYCLE 66, AND I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF CYCLISTS PARTICIPATING.
UM, SOME IN MY OWN FAMILY AND WE HAD A GREAT TIME.
AND, BUT THE THING I REALLY LOVED ABOUT IT WAS HOW MANY, UM, CITY STAFF I SAW VOLUNTEERING.
I ASSUME THEY WERE VOLUNTEERING.
MAYBE THEY WERE VOLUNTOLD EITHER WAY.
I REALLY APPRECIATED THE GESTURE.
UM, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO, TO INTER INTERFACE WITH CITIZENS AND, AND I REMEMBER TO HAVE TO HAVE FUN.
WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT CITY AND A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE A CITY OF EDMOND BIKE TEAM OR I DON'T KNOW, RISK MANAGEMENT MAY NOT LIKE THAT, BUT
BUT I JUST APPRECIATE CITY STAFF FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR WORK AND, UM, POLICE AND TRAFFIC AND FIRE FOR, UM, FOR BEING THERE AND SUPPORTING THE EVENT.
MADISON'S WORKING UP WAIVERS AS WE SPEAK.
I GUESS I'LL CLOSE THIS BY, UM, JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME I LOOK AROUND AT OUR COUNCIL AND I REALIZE THAT WE LOOK WHEN IT COMES TO, TO AGE THE LAST COUPLE OF COUNCILS, WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED GETTING SOME YOUNGER FACES UP HERE.
AND I, FROM TIME TO TIME, WONDER WHERE'S THE NEXT GENERATION COMING FROM? AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SAY THAT TODAY I HAD A MEETING WITH TWO DIFFERENT YOUNG PEOPLE, A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT AND A COLLEGE STUDENT INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.
WANTED TO MEET WITH ME TO TALK ABOUT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND HOW IT WORKS AND HOW WE GOT INTO IT.
WE, BEING ME AND ANYTHING I KNEW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, UM, AND WHAT THEY COULD DO TO GET MORE INVOLVED.
AND IT WAS SO REFRESHING TO HEAR THAT, UM, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HEAR THAT ANYMORE.
YOU DON'T SEE PEOPLE WANTING WHETHER IT'S TO SIT ON A COUNCIL OR WORK IN GOVERNMENT.
I JUST WANTED, I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A GENERATION COMING UP THAT THERE'S AT LEAST A FEW OF THEM WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO TO THOSE TWO OUT THERE, THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WELL, WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.