[1. Call to Order of the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
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[2. Presentations:]
WE'RE GONNA START THIS EVENING OFF WITH ITEM TWO A, A PRESENTATION, UH, IT'S PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 AS EDMOND DAY IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.WHEREAS NOVEMBER 3RD IS EDMUND DAY BECAUSE ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 1925, OKLAHOMA GOVERNOR, WILLIAM H TRAP THOMPSON SIGNED EDMUND CITY CHARTER INTO LAW.
AND WHEREAS THE NEW EDMOND STARTS HERE, CAMPAIGN WILL BE LAUNCHED ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026, TO CELEBRATE THE PEOPLE, BUSINESSES AND EXPERIENCES THAT MAKE EDMOND SPECIAL.
AND WHEREAS SPENDING LOCAL HELPS OUR COMMUNITY AND SHOWS RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WHY EDMOND IS A GREAT PLACE TO GROW, CONNECT, AND BELONG.
AND WHEREAS WHERE YOU SHOP, WHERE YOU EAT, WHERE YOU EXPLORE, AND WHERE YOU INVEST IN YOUR FUTURE, ALL HELP SHAPE EDMOND.
AND WHEREAS THIS IS A PERFECT DATA LAUNCH, A NEW CAMPAIGN CALLED EDMOND STARTS HERE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MARK A. NASH MAYOR TO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 AS EDMUND DAY IN THE CITY OF EDMOND.
I'M JENNIFER THORNTON, DIRECTOR OF, UH, COMMUNICATIONS AND TOURISM, AND I'M GONNA BRING UP SOME SPECIAL PEOPLE.
OH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A FEW STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR EDMUND START HERE CAMPAIGN.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A VIDEO IN A COUPLE MINUTES, BUT MOSTLY WE HAVE GATHERED, UM, A LOT OF GREAT BUSINESSES AND ATTRACTIONS AND RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL IN EDMOND THAT VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ENJOY.
SO WE'VE DECIDED TO DO A CAMPAIGN THAT'S CALLED EDMOND START HERE.
AND THE POINT IS, WHENEVER YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING, START HERE.
WHEREVER YOU'RE PLANNING A VACATION, OR IF YOU'RE OUT JUST FOR FUN WITH YOUR FAMILY, OR IF YOU'RE DECIDING WHERE TO EAT OR SHOP, START HERE.
SO THIS WILL BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CITY CALENDAR AND THEY WILL GO TOGETHER.
SO EVERY MONTH FEATURES DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WAYS TO ENJOY.
EDMOND, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE THAT'S STANDING UP HERE AS WELL AS MAGGIE MURDOCH NICHOLS, WHO'S ON OUR TOURISM BOARD, AND CASEY MOORE WHO HELPED WITH A FOCUS GROUP AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR CREATIVITY AND POSITIVITY AS WE LAUNCH THIS CAMPAIGN.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE PASSED OUT STICKERS FOR EVERYONE, AND THERE IS A WEBSITE CALLED EDMUND START HERE.COM, AND WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU A QUICK VIDEO.
HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THE EVENING WILL GO BETTER THAN THAT.
[3. Citizen Comments. This is an opportunity for residents and non-residents to address the City Council on city-related matters not on the agenda or scheduled for a public hearing. Citizens must sign up to speak either online by 3:00 p.m. the day of the City Council meeting, or in person by the start of the meeting. All remarks must be directed to the Mayor or Chair of the meeting, are limited to three minutes or less, and must otherwise be made in accordance with the City Council / Public Works Authority rules, available here and in the City Hall lobby. Please note that members of the City Council cannot respond to issues brought up in Citizen Comments if they are not on the agenda, in accordance with state law.]
UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, CITIZEN[00:05:01]
COMMENTS.WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE PERSON THAT SIGNED UP THIS EVENING.
IS SKYLA HERE? I DON'T SEE SKYLA, SO WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING ON JUST A SECOND.
CAN WE
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UM, EDMOND DAY, AND THANK YOU FOR THE VOLUNTEERS WORK.
AND WE DO NEED TO JUST, THAT WAS A TECHNICAL DI DIFFICULTY THAT DOES NOT REFLECT ON ANY OF THAT
[4. Appointments and Reappointments:]
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOUR.APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS.
WE HAVE THREE TOTAL THIS EVENING.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE'RE NOW ON TO ITEM FIVE, CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS.
[A. Case No. U26-00002; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Cypress Spa, Located at 24 E 4th Street. (Yang; Ward 1)]
ITEM FIVE A IS CASE NUMBER U 26 DASH 0 0 0 2 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR CYPRUS FALL LOCATED AT 24 EAST FOURTH STREET.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT MR. BRYAN? YES.
UM, MAYBE IN TERMS OF EXPEDIENCY, I CAN KIND OF PRESENT THE, THE, THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE RIGHT BEFORE, UH, RIGHT SUBSEQUENT TO THIS.
SO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR THESE SEVERAL LOCATIONS ARE REQUESTING MASSAGE THERAPY TO BE ADDED AS AN ALLOWED LAND USE.
OUR SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS MUST BE MET AS BOTH A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
CASES APPEARING ON THIS AGENDA PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT THERAPISTS ARE LICENSED BY THE OKLAHOMA BOARD OF COSMETOLOGY AND BARBERING, AND THAT WINDOWS AND DOORS FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY DO NOT HAVE AN OPAQUE TENT.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 0 8 6 APPROVED IN MAY OF 2026, WHICH ADOPTED THESE STANDARDS, GAVE EXISTING LOCATIONS UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
EACH CASE BELOW REQUIRES ITS OWN PUBLIC HEARING IN ACTION.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ANY OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM COMMENTS, COUNSEL? UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON THIS ONE BASED ON SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY THE, IN OUR SPECIFIC USE CRITERIA, GIVEN ITS LOCATION NEAR STEVENSON PARK, CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, DETRIMENT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND PUBLIC SERVICES, POTENTIALLY LIKE POLICE PUTTING A BURDEN ON THEM.
ANY COMMENTS? UM, MR. WATERSON, I'M GOING TO, TO BACK YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
UM, PART OF OUR CRITERIA IS PUBLIC HEALTH ORIENTED AS WELL AS UNDUE BURDENS ON POLICE.
AND BASED ON SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE WERE PROVIDED ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS VERY MUCH A POSSIBILITY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THIS? UH, OH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS SARAH YOUNG, OWNER OF CYPRESS SPOT.
OH, ENGLISH IS MY SECOND LANGUAGE, SO PLEASE SPEAK, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY AND SLOWLY.
I I DON'T GET, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS SPECIFIC PROBLEM.
SO SPECIFICALLY OUR CONCERNS ARE THE PROXIMITY TO THE PARK AND WHAT THAT WILL REQUIRE AS FAR AS A POLICE, INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IN THE PAST.
UM, AND WE BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AS PART OF OUR REVIEW CRITERIA, THAT THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH AS WELL AS AN ADDED NEED FOR POLICE PRESENCE.
SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I GOTTA SAY RIGHT NOW,
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I NEED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, CHANGE OR SOMETHING OR? WELL, OUR, OUR CONCERN, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE WHO HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO WHAT CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN GIVING US INFORMATION WISE AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AS FAR AS POLICE REPORTS, POLICE, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE THEN IN TURN HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, AND TWO OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE USE IS PUBLIC HEALTH.AND UNDUE BURDEN ON PUBLIC SERVICES, INCLUDING THE POLICE.
SO, SO WHAT DO I NEED TO, SO CONCERN MEANINGS YOU CANNOT PROVE APPROVE.
WELL, I'M, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I SIT.
SO WHAT DO I NEED TO, YOU NEED TO CONVINCE US THAT THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM.
I THINK I WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD OR PEOPLE, SO, WELL, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING.
SO HOW CAN I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN, HOW YOU CAN CONVINCE ME AT THIS POINT BECAUSE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE MASSAGE PARLORS THAT HISTORICALLY CHANGE NAMES, CHANGE, OPERATORS WIND UP WITH PROSTITUTION BUSTS AND THEN THEIR, THEIR ADVERTISING ON EROTIC ADULT WEBSITES MM-HMM
FOR ESCORT SERVICES, IT'S A PROBLEM.
AND IT BECOMES A PROBLEM FOR OUR POLICE.
IT BECOMES A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
BUT WE DON'T DO THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THEN WHY, HOW CAN I PROVE WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T, I DON'T, I I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN'T STAND UP HERE AND PROVE WHAT, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE GIVING US.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS PROBLEM WITH POLICE OR OTHER THINGS.
SO MAYBE I HAVE TO CHECK WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DO I NEED TO MR. WATERSON, COULD, COULD WE CONTINUE THIS ONE AND, AND DISCUSS IT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE.
I THINK WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH HOW TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL DEADLINE'S DECEMBER.
SO DO WE NEED TO PUT A DATE ON IT? WELL, DO YOU WANNA KICK IT OUT TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS TO WORK THROUGH IT? I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER TO HELP US ON THIS ONE.
I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING IN FOUR WEEKS.
WE HAVE THE NINTH AND OF, OF NOVEMBER AND THE 14TH OF DECEMBER.
I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL NOVEMBER 9TH.
WE'LL CONTINUE THIS TILL NOVEMBER 9TH.
AND IF YOU WOULD, COULD YOU PLEASE GET IN CONTACT WITH MY OFFICE OKAY.
IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO WORK THROUGH THIS.
[B. Case No. U26-00005; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Anza Magic Medical Massage Therapy, Located at 3208 Teakwood Lane, Suite 106. (Austin John; Ward 3)]
B CASE NUMBER U 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 5 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR ANZA MEDICAL ANZA MAGIC MEDICAL MASSAGE THERAPY LOCATED AT 32 0 8 TEAKWOOD LANE, SUITE 1 0 6 IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT.CAN WE MOVE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING? WE CAN EITHER CONTINUE IT OR WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE AS WELL, SO CONTINUE IT.
I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[C. Case No. U26-00010; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Massage 7, an Existing Massage Therapy Business, Located at 1333 N Santa Fe Ave, Suite 116. (Fang; Ward 4)]
C.CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH HEARING.
CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MASSAGE SEVEN.
AN EXISTING MASSAGE THERAPY BUSINESS LOCATED AT 1333
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NORTH SANTA FE AVENUE, SUITE ONE 16.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION APPROVE.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[D. Case No. U26-00011; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Relaxing Space Massage, Located at 36 E 33rd Street. (Cisiewski; Ward 1)]
D CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 1 PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR RELAXING SPACE MASSAGE LOCATED AT 36 EAST 33RD STREET.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? WOULD THE APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? YES, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU ALL KNOW HONOR THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
SO I'M, UH, UM, BECAUSE, UH, DINA CHEN, WHO IS THE OWNER, SHE DOES NOT SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH, THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING ON HER BEHALF.
SO WE HAVE THIS, UH, PLACE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
SO WE, SO FAR, WE ARE ONE OF THE FIRST FEW TO APPLY FOR THIS PERMIT.
UM, WHENEVER THIS PERMIT, UH, I MEAN THE LETTER WAS ISSUED TO US ON MAY 25TH.
AND, UH, UH, WE ARE HAVE, WE HAVE ALREADY GOT THE FIRE INSPECTION AND ALSO THE POLICE INSPECTION.
SO WE COMMIT, UH, TO THIS, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE.
WE ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD GOOGLE REVIEWS.
UH, SO YOU CAN CHECK FROM THE GOOGLE REVIEW.
SO I WANT TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR APPROVAL TO GIVE US THIS, UM, UM, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR DEDICATION AND ALSO WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE CAN CONTRIBUTE A LOT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE SOCIETY.
ANYONE THEE CARE TO ADDRESS THAT.
COUNSEL, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[E. Case No. U26-00016; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Seven Suns Massage Therapy Business Located at 408 South Santa Fe Avenue. (Martin; Ward 4)]
ITEM FIVE E.CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 6.
PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR SEVEN SONS MASSAGE THERAPY BUSINESS LOCATED AT 4 0 8 SOUTH SANTA FE AVENUE.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? UH, YES, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HI, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ROBIN MARTIN AND I HELPED TO ORGANIZE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MASSAGE THERAPY, UH, BUSINESS.
WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE WERE SOME PREVIOUS ISSUES AT THIS ADDRESS, UH, BUT WE ARE A DIFFERENT, UH, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION AND ALSO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WORKS THERE TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL STRICTLY DO MASSAGES ABOVE BOARD WITH NO, UH, TYPE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, NOTHING ILLEGAL.
SO, AND I CAN SUPPLY THAT IF, IF NEEDED.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? SO, SORRY, SIR, CAN YOU COME BACK UP FOR A SECOND? YES.
SO WHAT'S THE CURRENT NAME OF THE BUSINESS? WE HAVE AN LLC THAT, UH, ACTUALLY OWNS THE BUSINESS CALLED SEVEN SONS.
AND THEN THE ACTUAL NAME ON OUR DOOR IS, UH, PROFESSIONAL MASSAGE.
OKAY, SO VIOLET MASSAGE WAS THE FORMER NAME.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE FORMER NAMES? YES.
OKAY, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPANY THAN YOU GROUP OF PEOPLE.
NO ASSOCIATION WITH THAT? NONE AT ALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? MOTION TO APPROVE.
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I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.[F. Case No. U26-00019; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Mona Lisa Massage, Located at 613 South Broadway. (Kiely; Ward 3)]
CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 9.PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPRO APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MONA LISA MASSAGE LOCATED AT SIX 13 SOUTH BROADWAY.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS? COMMENTS, COUNSEL QUESTIONS? I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN ON THIS ONE AS I HAD ON THE FIRST ONE, UM, BASED ON BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
WOULD YOU CARE TO COME FORWARD? MICHAEL, KYLIE, MY WIFE MONA, MY NAME MONA, GO AHEAD.
OH, JUST YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD ON ITEM FIVE A.
UM, HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL OWNED THIS BUSINESS? YOUR CONCERN IS, I'M SORRY, THE SAME AS FIVE A? YEAH, WE HAVE A CON WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT POLICE REPORTS, ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT ADVERTISING THAT SUGGESTS THE PROBLEM WITH PUBLIC HEALTH AS WELL AS INCREASED POLICE BURDEN.
ARE YOU DOING ANY ADVERTISING? ADVERTISING ON THE INTERNET? I THINK I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THAT.
UH, SHE'S BEEN IN THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS.
DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE THIS ONE SO WE CAN WORK THROUGH IT? YEAH.
WOULD YOU ALL, WE'VE GOT A MOTION HERE TO CONTINUE IT AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONTACT MY OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET TO HOW, HOW ARE WE WORKING THROUGH IT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WELL, WHEN, WHEN WE GET, WHEN WE'RE GETTING, WHEN WE'RE GETTING INCOMPLETE BACKGROUND INFORMATION WITH OUR PACKETS AND WE HAVE CITIZENS WHO ARE TURNING IN INFORMATION TO US AND IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A, THERE IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN OR THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASED POLICE INVOLVEMENT AT A LOCATION, WE, WE NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS AND WE OBVIOUSLY AREN'T DOING IT THE WAY THAT THIS PROCESS IS WORKING TODAY.
UM, AND I MEAN THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN HANDED, WHICH IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, DOESN'T ALLOW US TO VET PROPERLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST, WE CAN'T JUST SAY, SORRY, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE YOU BECAUSE THERE WAS A BUST AT THAT ADDRESS 10 YEARS AGO.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS WE'RE STUCK WITH A ZONING ISSUE AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT CITIZENS HAVE BEEN TURNING IN BECAUSE THEY DISPUTE WHAT, WHAT OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO GIVE US.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE AND YOU'LL SHOW US THAT EVIDENCE.
SO OH, ABSOLUTELY, I HAVE, YEAH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL SHOWING YOU WHAT WE, WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US BECAUSE SEVEN YEARS, THE POLICE HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK YOU GO.
WELL, IF IT'S 10 YEARS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY COUNCILMAN WATERSON HAS, HAS ASKED TO CONTINUE IT SO THAT WE CAN JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION.
WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WHAT INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN AND WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE THIS PROCESS WORK, OKAY.
AND TRYING TO DO THIS, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT TRYING TO DO THIS AS A ZONING ISSUE IS NOT WORKING BECAUSE IT LIMITS US.
AND ALL WE CAN DO IS, IS ASK QUESTIONS AND HOPE THAT WE GET AN ANSWER WHEN THE ANSWER IS WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM AND IT CONFLICTS WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD.
WE'RE STUCK BECAUSE OF WHAT THE REVIEW CRITERIA IS.
SO A CONVERSATION WITH YOU TO SHOW YOU WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US IS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'LL CONTACT YOUR OFFICE TOMORROW.
I HAVE A MOTION TIME, UH, QUESTION PLEASE.
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YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.HAVE WE, HAVE WE VERIFIED ANY OF THE INFORMATION? WHO'S CHECKED IT? HAVE WE RUN IT THROUGH LEGAL, THROUGH POLICE? ANYBODY ELSE? WELL THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE WHEN IT'S A ZONING ISSUE, RUNNING THAT TYPE OF A BACKGROUND CHECK ISN'T PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND SO THEN IT GETS TO US WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE CITIZEN INPUT, WE'RE STUCK.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A ODD POSITION FOR US TO BE IN.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T MIND SAYING, I THINK THAT THE, THE GOING DOWN THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PATH WAS WRONG.
IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO BE QUITE HONEST IF WE HAD A BUSINESS LICENSE.
AND WHEN SOMEONE TURNS IN AN APPLICATION FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE AND YOU DO A BACKGROUND CHECK AND YOU SHOW THEN BY PROCESS THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY, ANYTHING REPORTED FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING IN THAT BUSINESS, IT'S, IT'S AN EASY DECISION.
SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO, WE, WE NEED TO SHIFT GEARS ON THIS.
I, WE, WE'VE GOTTA FINISH WHAT'S IN THE PROCESS.
WE'VE GOTTA DEAL WITH IT AT WHERE IT STANDS TONIGHT.
UM, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR ACTING CITY ATTORNEY, TO LET'S PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T, MOVING FORWARD, LET'S FINISH WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE, BUT PUT A MORATORIUM ON THIS AND SEE ABOUT SHIFTING GEARS TO A BUSINESS LICENSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR, IT'S NOT FAIR TO TO HONEST BUSINESS PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT THIS IS KIND OF EMBARRASSING FOR US TO HAVE YOU BRING UP SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WELL, SO I KNOW, I, I BELIEVE ME, I WILL GET AHOLD OF YOUR OFFICE TOMORROW.
OKAY, SO I'VE, I'VE GOT A MOTION FOR, WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THIS ONE, TO NOVEMBER 9TH AS WELL.
UH, BUT WHAT ARE WE, I AM SORRY.
YEAH, THIS IS EMBARRASSING FOR YOU.
I'M, YEAH, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA TALK TO YOUR OFFICE ABOUT.
YOU DON'T WHAT? I DON'T WE CAN MOVE ON.
DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? SECOND.
WHAT'S YOUR OBJECTION HERE? YOU DON'T THINK WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS? OH, NO, I, I I TOLD YOU I'M SORRY THAT YOU ARE EMBARRASSED.
THIS PROCESS, THIS WAS NOT FAIR TO YOU.
UM, BUT THE WAY OUR COUNCIL WORKS IS WE, WE ACT AS A GOVERNING BODY.
SO FOR YOU TO GO TO HIS OFFICE, I WAS ASKING HIM FOR CLARIFICATION OF WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT.
UH, I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WHAT THEY'RE ALLUDING TO ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS REVIEW PROCESS.
YOU SUBMITTED WHAT YOU NEEDED TO FOR THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
I WAS GOING TO VOTE TO APPROVE IT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO CONTINUE IT.
MY CLARIFYING QUESTION WAS FOR THE MAYOR, NOT FOR YOU.
APOLOGIES IF IT SEEMED THAT WAY.
WELL, NO, AND, AND I WANT TO ANSWER, I WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I WANNA BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN, THAT A COUPLE OF US HAVE BEEN GIVEN BECAUSE THAT'S, IT, IT, IT CLOUDS THE WHOLE THING FOR US TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION IN, IN THIS REALLY, TO BE QUITE HONEST, THIS REALLY IMPERFECT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'VE GOT SOME CRITERIA THAT WE COULD SAY NO ON.
BUT IF, IF WE CAN'T GET ANSWERS, HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND SO IF YOU CAN COME TO ME, WE CAN SIT DOWN, I CAN DISCLOSE THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
YOU CAN TELL US WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN REFUTE IT, YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE NEED TO HEAR AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
OKAY? BUT I JUST, I MEAN, WE HAD ONE, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE HAD ONE WHERE PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY LIVING IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING IN AN AREA WHERE IT, IT DIDN'T MEET THE CODE FOR A RESIDENCE.
AND THAT CAME OUT IN THE CONVERSATION AND ULTIMATELY IT GOT TURNED DOWN.
NOT THAT THEY CAN'T COME BACK TO US AT SOME POINT IF THEY MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING, BUT, UM, WE'RE JUST STUCK.
I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S START WITH WHEN, WHEN WE GET INFORMATION FROM CITIZENS OR ANYBODY, LET'S HAVE THAT VERIFIED THROUGH LEGAL, THROUGH POLICE NOT WAITING TILL COUNCIL MEETING TO BRING IT UP TO, TO BEGIN TALKING ABOUT IT.
WELL, I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE CLEAR.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAND THEM
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WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.NO, IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR PROBLEM WAS, IS THAT WHEN, WHEN THE ANSWER WE KEEP GETTING FROM STAFF IS, WELL, THAT'S NOT PART OF A ZONING ISSUE.
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH IT? BECAUSE WE'RE UP HERE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS OF EDMOND.
AND IF, IF WE CAN'T GO DO A, THE BACKGROUND CHECK, IF WE CAN'T GO DO THAT TYPE OF RESEARCH TO SAY YAY OR NAY BECAUSE IT'S JUST A ZONING ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUT IN A, WE'RE PUT IN A BAD SPOT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ALL'S HONESTY.
I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP HERE AND HAVING TO LISTEN TO US.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE WAY THE COUNCIL WORKS.
SO AS A CITIZEN OF ADMINS, I FEEL LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS LIKE THIS THAT YOU NEED TO ERR IN PUBLIC THAT YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO US BEFORE THIS MEETING.
THAT'S MY POSITION BECAUSE I'M UP HERE EMBARRASSED IN FRONT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE.
AND I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
I STOOD OUT THERE IN THAT LOBBY AND TALKED TO YOU FOR A MINUTE.
YOU SEEM LIKE A PRETTY NICE FELLA.
I'M SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU AND THE LADY WITH YOU, MA'AM, SHE'S MY WIFE.
I'M A DISABLED MRS. COY, I'M SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU AND I, I CAN UNDER I LOOK, I'M SEEING YOU ROCK FROM FOOT TO FOOT.
YOU'RE RUNNING A LITTLE HOT RIGHT NOW AND I'M SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOU.
COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND WE'LL GET THIS CLEARED UP.
I NEED A SECOND ON THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, MA'AM, WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
OKAY? HE SAID THEY'RE SORRY, HE'S SORRY.
ENGLISH WAS HER SECOND LANGUAGE
[G. Case No. U26-00020; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Crystal Massage, Located at 825 Centennial Boulevard. (Yang; Ward 3)]
CASE NUMBER U 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION, APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR CRYSTAL MASSAGE LOCATED AT 8 25 CENTENNIAL BOULEVARD.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL COMMENTS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND THE CAST MEMBERS.
I'M THE INTERPRETER FOR THE OWNER OF THIS KRISTER BA SPA.
JUST CLARIFYING THE BUSINESS NAME.
IS IT CRYSTAL OR IS IT SPRING SPA? IT'S, UH, CRYSTAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
[H. Case No. U26-00021; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of a Specific Use Permit for Medical Massage & Bodywork, Located at 1601 Medical Center Drive. (Wiley; Ward 2)]
FIVE H, CASE NUMBER U2 SIX DASH 0 0 0 2 1.PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MEDICAL MASSAGE AND BODY WORK LOCATED AT 1601 MEDICAL DRIVE IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT.
WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD ANYTHING? HELLO, MY NAME IS JUDY WILEY.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW A MEDICAL MASSAGE PRACTICE CAN BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, FIRST I'M A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS.
I MOVED HERE AND WENT TO COLLEGE AT OKLAHOMA CHRISTIAN, GRADUATED FROM UCO.
MY DAUGHTER WENT THROUGH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SCHOOL HERE IN EDMOND.
I'VE LIVED HERE MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE.
UM, I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY ABOUT WHAT MAKES OUR PRACTICE UNIQUE.
UM, EVERYONE AT MY PRACTICE HAS SPECIAL MOD, UH, HAS TRAINING AND SPECIAL MODALITIES.
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UH, I HOLD TWO ADVANCED CERTIFICATIONS.I'M NATIONAL BOARD CERTIFIED, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST CERTIFICATION YOU CAN HOLD IN THE COUNTRY IN MASSAGE THERAPY.
I'M ALSO MASTERY LEVEL CERTIFIED IN MYO SKELETAL ALIGNMENT TECHNIQUE, UM, GIVING BACK TO THE MASSAGE INDUSTRY LOCALLY, UH, NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY LOCALLY BY MENTORING AND TRAINING TO, UH, THERAPISTS WHO ARE WORKING FOR ME, WITH ME AT THE OFFICE.
I'VE ALSO WORKED IN THE CONTINUING EDUCATION WORLD FOR, OR BUSINESS FOR FIVE YEARS.
UM, I'VE TAUGHT UNDER THE WORLD RENOWNED MASSAGE THERAPY EDUCATOR, ERIC DALTON.
I'VE WORKED IN SAN FRANCISCO, OREGON, LAS VEGAS, CHICAGO, PHILADELPHIA, CONNECTICUT, OREGON, TEXAS, COSTA RICA, AND IRELAND.
SO I'M TRYING TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, THE MASSAGE COMMUNITY IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE SERVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE AND AGES OF PEOPLE AT OUR, UM, PRACTICE.
WE ARE THE ORIGINAL MEDICAL MASSAGE PRACTICE IN EDMOND.
OUR GOAL IS THERAPEUTIC OUTCOMES.
AND ONE THIRD OF OUR CLIENTELE COME DIRECTLY FROM PROFESSIONAL REFERRALS, WHICH IS, UH, CHIROPRACTORS, MEDICAL DOCTORS, DENTISTS, PHYSICAL THERAPISTS, MANUAL THERAPISTS, UH, ALL REFER TO US REGULARLY.
UM, FINALLY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE.
UH, WE SERVE A WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE IN EDMOND WHO ARE FOCUSED ON THEIR HEALTH, ARE LOOKING FOR HELP WITH SPECIFIC ISSUES EVERY DAY.
WE WORK TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE FOLLOW THE RULES AND COMMU AND ARE COMPLETELY ABOVE BOARD.
UM, HOW YOU MAY NOT THINK OF US AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, MY CLIENT LIST INCLUDES ENTREPRENEURS AND PEOPLE WHO YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT WHO DEFINITELY AFFECT YOUR DAILY LIFE.
A FLEET OF HVAC AND ELECTRICAL TRUCKS YOU SEE AROUND TOWN ARE OWNED BY A BUSINESS BUILT BY ONE OF MY REGULARS.
A GROCERY STORE YOU HAVE ALL SHOPPED AT IS A BUSINESS BUILT BY ONE OF MY REGULARS.
THE CONCRETE STREETS YOU DRIVE ON AND THE SIDEWALKS YOU WALK ON ARE POURED BY A BUSINESS BUILT BY ONE OF MY REGULARS.
SO, UH, WE ARE PROUD TO DO BUSINESS IN EDMOND.
WE SERVE THE PEOPLE, UH, WHO HAVE BUILT THE FAMILIES, SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND BUSINESSES THAT KEEP THE COMMUNITY GOING.
WE'RE PROUD TO BE PART OF EDMUND AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS COUNCIL? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I MOVE, UH, DO PASS.
MR. MAYOR, MAY I, A QUICK QUESTION.
BEFORE WE GO ON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BECOME, I THINK, CLEAR TO THE STAFF IS THAT WE SET UP A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT PROCESS THAT ULTIMATELY IS NOT GETTING INFORMATION THAT YOU, THAT THE COUNCIL COLLECTIVELY, I THINK SEE SEES AS RELEVANT OR IMPORTANT TO YOUR APPLICATION OF THE APPROVAL CRITERIA.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING OUT LOUD WHAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT LIKE TO DO.
WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF APPLICATIONS.
KEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE? I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURE HOW MANY WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE.
WE'VE, THERE'S ABOUT 30 TOTAL APPLICATIONS.
UM, SO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY HAVE COME TO THIS BODY.
SO KNOWING THAT, I'M WONDERING IF THE COUNSEL WOULD LIKE US TO, TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A MENTION OF A MORATORIUM, UH, ON, ON ACCEPTING ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS, WOULD WANT TO GET SOME LEGAL ADVICE FOR HOW TO PROCEED WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
BUT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING IS PART OF THE ESPEC OR, UH, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATION IS NOT RESPONSIVE TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU THINK YOU NEED OR IS NOT RELEVANT MAYBE, UH, FOR WHAT YOU THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE APPROVAL CRITERIA.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS MIGHT BE IS NOW THE TIME, UH, FOR A MORATORIUM, MEANING, MEANING YOU WANT US TO MAYBE BRING A MORATORIUM BACK ON NOVEMBER 9TH, YOU'VE CONTINUED A COUPLE TO NOVEMBER 9TH, BUT MAYBE BRING A, A MORATORIUM BACK ON NOVEMBER 9TH AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE UNKNOWN QUESTIONS.
I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE IS IF WE, IF WE SET UP A MORATORIUM ON THIS, DO WE NEED TO BRING
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THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS THROUGH TO FINALITY OR DO WE PAUSE THEM? UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS TO LET THEM GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE PROCESS, BUT TO STOP RECEIVING ANY NEW APPLICATIONS.AND ALSO TO, TO NOT, I MEAN, ONCE DECEMBER 31ST COMES TO THEN NOT ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE FOR AS LONG AS THE MORATORIUM IS.
AND I MEAN, I, I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THIS.
IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING WHEN WE HAVE SOME SMALL NUMBER AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER ACTUALLY IS, BUT WE HAVE SOME SMALL NUMBER OF BAD ACTORS OUT THERE AND THEY'RE REALLY MAKING IT HARD FOR AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY TO FUNCTION.
AND THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T EVEN GIVE US THE TOOLS TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS A LAND USE.
AND I'M JUST LIKE, WE, WE GOTTA HAVE A WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WHEN THE DAY OF OR THE DAY BEFORE OR THE WEEK BEFORE, WE HAVE A MEETING, IN MANY CASES WE'RE NOT GETTING IT.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THESE TEXT MESSAGES AND EMAILS UNTIL HOURS BEFORE A COUNCIL MEETING.
AND WE'RE HEARING ABOUT, ABOUT POLICE BUSTS, STING OPERATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AT ADDRESSES, WHETHER IT'S THE SAME APPLICANT OR NOT.
WE DON'T EVEN, I MEAN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SO HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE? AND IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD FOR THE LEGITIMATE BUSINESS PEOPLE OUT THERE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE SITTING HERE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND I MEAN WE'VE, WE'VE GOT SOME SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT, BUT YEAH, WHAT I THINK WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT THE LAND USE APPLICATION PROCESS IS NOT GONNA YIELD THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT YOU VIEW AS RELEVANT FOR, UH, THE, UH, THE KIND OF DECISION MAKING THAT YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH.
SO IF I COULD SAY TWO THINGS, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF THE, WHAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL'S VIEW IS ON A MORATORIUM, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS WORKING.
IT'S CLEARLY NOT, DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT, WE JUST SAW IT.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE HUNG OUT HERE TILL NOVEMBER 9TH, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THOSE ON NOVEMBER 9TH, RIGHT? YES.
WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? ANY NEW APPLICATION AFTER THESE THREE THAT ARE PENDING? WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? WELL, PRESUMABLY THE COUNSEL WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER AN ACT ON A MORATORIUM ON NOVEMBER 9TH.
SO WE WOULD CEASE ACCEPTING ANY NEW APPLICATIONS AT THAT POINT.
ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED, UH, PRIOR TO THAT, HOW LONG IS THAT MORATORIUM IN EFFECT? WE COULD DO IT AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT.
HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS TO STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT? I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR AT LEAST A FEW MONTHS.
SETTING ASIDE THE FACT THAT IT'S THE HOLIDAYS AND WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF MEETINGS, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR AT LEAST A FEW MONTHS.
SIX, WE CAN PROBABLY GET IT DONE, UH, SOONER THAN SIX MONTHS, BUT I WOULD SAY A SIX MONTH MORATORIUM TO ALLOW US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A PROCESS GOING FORWARD MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO IT'S YOUR DEAL WITH THE ONES THAT ARE CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER NINE, HAVE A MORATORIUM POSSIBLY ADOPTED ON NOVEMBER NINE, AND THEN HAVE A NEW PROCESS BEGAN NOVEMBER 10TH AND HAD THAT DONE IN A FEW MONTHS TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN HERE AND GET AND AND, AND THEY WON'T EVEN APPEAR HERE, RIGHT? IT'LL BE A BIT, HOW WILL THAT WORK? WELL, I DON'T WANT TO PRESUPPOSE WHAT THAT NEW PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
FOR INSTANCE, ONE THING AND WE GIVE IT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A, AN ORDINANCE IN EFFECT.
THEN ON NOVEMBER 10TH THERE WOULD BE A COUNCIL WERE TO ADOPT A MORATORIUM ON NOVEMBER 9TH, START WORK ON THE 10TH, START WORK ON THE 10TH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST MECHANISM IS GOING TO BE TO APPROPRIATELY REGULATE, UM, AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT COUNCIL'S CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND THEN ONCE THAT ORDINANCE IS, YOU KNOW, REVIEWED AND EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEN PUT THAT FORTH ON A COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ADOPTION AND THEN THE, THE INTERVENING TIME TO THEN, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING ADOPTION WITH EMERGENCY AND THEN WE CAN GET TO WORK ON IT RIGHT AWAY.
I WOULD ASK THAT WE NOT TRY TO REGULATE THIS FROM THE DAIS.
UH, WE DON'T NEED TO BE ACTING AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I JUST, THIS, I HATE THAT PEOPLE ARE EMBARRASSED.
I HATE THAT PEOPLE FEEL, UM, QUESTIONED THAT THEIR PROFESSION IS QUESTIONED.
UH, 'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S MAYBE, SURE THERE'S
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NOT GREAT THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD.I WON'T DENY THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE INTERACTION BETWEEN CITIZENS AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT WHATEVER COMES THROUGH FOR US TO CONSIDER, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT, I DON'T WANNA DO IT LIKE THIS ANYMORE.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND MR. MOORE, THERE MAY BE 10, 15 ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR THAT FALL UNDER THE CURRENT PROCESS.
BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED, WE'RE GONNA HA WE'RE GONNA NEED TO ADDRESS WE IS THAT RIGHT? THAT WE'D HAVE TO, I I CAN RESEARCH IT FURTHER, BUT MY INITIAL INCLINATION IS THAT YES, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ONCE SOMEBODY'S ALREADY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO SEE THAT THROUGH.
UM, AND HAVE A, A RULING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF COUNCIL MEMBERS DECIDED TO VOTE NO ON ONE OF THOSE? BASED ON THE CRITERIA OR NOT? BASED ON THE CRITERIA.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE BUSINESSES? WELL, IF THE MAJORITY NO VOTE, IF, IF THE MORATORIUM IS IN EFFECT, THERE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A CONSEQUENCE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO, WHETHER THE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE REPEALED OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE MODIFIED IN SOME WAY OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED BY A DIFFERENT KIND OF LICENSING SCHEME.
SO IN, IN THE INTERIM, WHILE THAT'S FIGURED OUT, THERE WOULDN'T, UH, BE ANY ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THEM FOR THAT.
SO WHY TAKE ACTION AT ALL IN THE NEXT MEETING THEN? JUST SO THEN THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF CERTAINTY FOR THOSE FOLKS OF, OKAY, I I'VE SUBMITTED MY APPLICATION.
IT WAS HEARD, YOU KNOW, I, I PAID MY APPLICATION FEE, I COMPLIED WITH THE PROCESS AND SO HERE'S MY, MY UP OR DOWN VOTE.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THE WORD IMPERFECT WAS USED EARLIER TO DESCRIBE THE PROCESS AND IT, IT'S AT LEAST THAT.
AND I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A HANDFUL OR SEVERAL APPLICANTS WHO HAVE IN GOOD FAITH, UM, MADE APPLICATION.
THEY FOLLOWED THE STEPS THAT WE TOLD THEM TO TAKE.
UM, THEY ARE, THEY'RE DUE PROCESS.
I THINK WE SHOULD FINISH WHAT'S IN WHAT'S IN PROGRESS IN PROCESS AND THEN HAVE THE MORATORIUM TAKE EFFECT AND THEN WORK ON THE, THE SO-CALLED NEW SYSTEM.
YEAH, I MEAN THE, THE CHALLENGE I'M HAVING IS LIKE THE PROCESS WE HAVE IN PLACE AS CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FACTORS.
AND NUMBER ONE IS THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ONLY KNOW WHAT I KNOW, RIGHT? AND SO IF I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT, UNLESS IT'S LIKE DISPROVEN, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, RIGHT? SO IF WE WANNA DO IT, WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON THESE LIKE I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY, BOTH BUSINESS OWNERS AND CITIZENS IN THE AREA.
I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION COMING FROM OTHER PLACES.
IT'S LIKE WE GET THIS THING ON FRIDAY, WE HAVE A MEETING ON MONDAY, I ONLY KNOW WHAT I KNOW.
BUT THAT'S HOW I'M GONNA VOTE 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL I KNOW WHAT TO DO UNLESS THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION.
STILL NEEDS TO BE VETTED AS NOT JUST CITIZENS AND GIVING INFORMATION.
GOTTA BE PROVEN, GOTTA BE SUPPLIED TO THE APPLICANTS.
GOTTA BE PART OF THE CRITERIA.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE ONES IN TWO WEEKS.
OKAY, SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT WE VOTING ON ANYTHING NOW OR ARE WE MOVING ON PAST THIS? NO, WE'RE MOVING ON.
STAFF WILL BRING SOMETHING TO US.
WHAT STAFF WILL BRING SOMETHING TO US.
[I. Case No. PR26-00001; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval for a Preliminary Plat for Black Oaks II at Iron Horse Ranch, Located Southeast of Sorghum Mill Road and Coltrane Road. (Staab Holdings LLC; Ward 2)]
MOVING ON.FIVE I IS CASE NUMBER PR 2 6 0 0 0 1 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR BLACK OAKS TWO AT IRONHORSE RANCH LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF SORGHUM MILL ROAD AND COLTRANE ROAD.
AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO NOVEMBER 9TH.
MR. MAYOR, I, I SEE THE EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY'S.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM FIVE I UNTIL NOVEMBER 9TH, 2026.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[J. Case No. Z26-00016; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4100 Rezoning Certain Property Generally Located on the East Side of Sooner Road, North of East 2nd Street, from "G-A" General Agricultural to "E-1" Retail General Commercial and Providing an Effective Date. (Marathon Rentals, LLC; Ward 2)]
CASE NUMBER Z TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 16 PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 0 REZONING CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SUNA ROAD NORTH OF EAST SECOND STREET FROM GA, GENERAL AGRICULTURE TO E ONE RETAIL GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND[00:50:01]
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT MR. BRYAN? THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES.
THE MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOONER NORTH OF SECOND NEARBY.
ZONING AND USES INCLUDE TO THE NORTH AND EAST ARE UNDEVELOPED.
I 35 RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED FOR E ONE COMMERCIAL USES AND IS DEVELOPED AS AN OFFICE TO THE WEST ACROSS SOONER ZONE FOUR AND DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.
THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A BUYRIGHT ZONING DISTRICT WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USES.
THE EDMOND PLAN CATEGORIZES THE AREA AS I 35 AND THE REQUESTED DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026.
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO.
TODD MCKENNA ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
CALEB HILL WHO CALEB'S HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, THE LANDOWNER AND THE DEVELOPER, THAT'S HIM OVER THERE THAT WAVED HIS HAND.
UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER WE'RE HERE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND THERE WAS ONE OR TWO RESIDENTS HAD SOME QUESTIONS, UH, YOUR DIRECTION.
WE UH, WENT TO A COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS.
I DON'T THINK WE CALLED HIM THAT ANYMORE.
AND WE MET AT THE EDMOND LIBRARY THIS PAST MONDAY NIGHT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.
CALEB CAME AND, UH, MRS. UH, OR DR.
MARY MERRIT UH, KIND OF FACILITATED THE MEETING.
SHE WAS THE PERSON WHO SPOKE AT THE PODIUM.
UH, WE QUIT HAVING COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AS A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY GOT SO HOSTILE AND INEFFECTIVE.
THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A POSTER CHILD FOR WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE 'EM.
THE DIALOGUE WAS VERY POSITIVE AND ENCOURAGING ACROSS THE BOARD.
DR. MERRITT WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF CALEB AND THE INTERACTION THAT WE HAD.
I THINK IT WAS WHAT WE WANT TO BE DOING IS HAVING NEIGHBORS TALK TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THEIR PROPERTY TO THE EXTENT THEY KNOW IT.
UH, CALEB WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO REARRANGE HIS SCHEDULE TO BE THERE BEFORE THIS MEETING.
WE DID MONDAY NIGHT AND I HAVEN'T HAD ANY DIALOGUE WITH ANYBODY OF A NEGATIVE NATURE OR ANYTHING SINCE THAT TIME.
BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, MR. MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THANK YOU SIR FOR BEING THERE AND FOR TALKING TO THOSE FOLKS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD ASKED FOR.
THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY'D HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION THE FIRST GO AROUND AND THERE'S DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT THE FACT THAT THAT MEETING WAS HELPFUL.
I HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS OUT THERE.
THEY CALLED ME, THEY TEXTED ME.
I HEARD FROM ONE AGAIN THIS MORNING.
SO THAT IS PROOF IN THE PUDDING.
IF WE'LL ALL SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THINGS, THINGS CAN BE BETTER.
THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE THAT AS WE DISCUSSED OR I DISCUSSED THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN OR UNCERTAINTY OR FUSSINESS ABOUT THESE THINGS.
SOME OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE FUSSY.
THIS ONE GOT WORKED OUT BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORS WANTING TO HAVE A CHAT.
YOU ACCOMMODATED THAT AND YOU DID YOUR ROLE IN THAT.
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I'D MOVE TO PASS THIS ITEM.
WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? I'VE GOT A MOTION.
I SECOND AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[K. Case No. ES26-00006; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4107 Closing A Utility Easement Generally Located At 3341 Sardinia Court, Edmond, Oklahoma County, Providing For Repealer And Severability; And Providing An Effective Date. (McGregor Homes; Ward 2)]
IS CASE NUMBER ES 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 6 PUBLIC HEARING.CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 7.
CLOSING A UTILITY EASEMENT GENERALLY LOCATED AT 33 41 SARDINIA COURT.
EDMOND, OKLAHOMA COUNTY PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CLOSE A PORTION OF THE UTILITY EASEMENT AND OUR FRONT YARD.
THERE ARE NO CITY FACILITIES OR UM, UTILITIES IN THE EASEMENT.
NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM OUR FRANCHISE UTILITIES PLANNING COMMISSION.
CONSIDERED THIS CASE ON THE OCTOBER 6TH, 2026 MEETING AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE IT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? CAN I JUST, KIRSTEN, CAN I JUST CLARIFY THE PROCESS HERE? SO THIS IS A PLAT OF DIRT HERE.
UM, SO I GUESS IN A CASE LIKE THIS, IS IT JUST THAT WE ANTICIPATED SOMETHING MIGHT GO THERE AND SO WE RESERVED IT AND THEN SOMETHING AND NOTHING ENDED UP NEEDING TO GO THERE? IS THAT KIND OF HOW THIS HAPPENED? MORE THAN LIKELY, YES.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL HAVE UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE KIND OF LIKE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL ADD A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM IN.
WHEN IT'S OLDER HOUSES IT MAKES SENSE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE GONE THERE.
APPLICANT CARE TO ADD ANYTHING?
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ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL, MOVE APPROVAL.GOT A MOTION AND SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[L. Case No. ES26-00011; Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4108 Closing a Utility Easement Generally Located on the West Side of Covell Crossing on the Southwest Corner of Covell and Sooner, Edmond, Oklahoma County, Providing for Repealer and Severability; and Providing an Effective Date. (Grubbs Consulting; Ward 2) ]
L CASE NUMBER ES 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 1.PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 8.
CLOSING THE UTILITY EASEMENT GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF VALE CROSSING ON SOUTHWEST CORNER OF COVILLE AND SOONER.
EDMUND, OKLAHOMA COUNTY PROVIDING FOR REPEAL AND SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, KIRSTEN LUDINGTON, DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO CLOSE THE UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COBO CROSSING DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE NO CITY OF EDMOND FACILITIES OR UTILITIES AND IN OR PLAN FOR IN THIS EASEMENT.
NO OBJECTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE FRANCHISE UTILITIES PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS CASE ON THEIR OCTOBER 6TH, 2026 MEETING AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE APPLICANT CARRIED TO ADD ANYTHING? NO MA'AM.
QUESTIONS? THE ONE, THE ONE QUESTION I I HAD.
MI MAYOR O'NEILL MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, QUESTION I HAVE, IS THIS A TREE BUFFER HERE AND ARE THEY CUTTING DOWN ALL THE TREES? THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WOULD BE.
IT'S THE REAL IS IT THE PEOPLE TO THE, TO THE RIGHT OF I GUESS THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY THAT OWNS THAT EASEMENT OR IS IT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT OWNS THAT? IT APPEARS TO BE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS WHY THEY CUT RIGHT UP AGAINST IT ON, ON THE UH, WELL I GUESS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THERE.
EITHER THE APPLICANT OR MS. LUTON.
SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY TREES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE EASEMENT.
UM, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, WHY THEY WERE CLOSING THE EASEMENT IF THE TREES WERE ALLOWED TO RE UH, REMAIN.
SO THE CLOSURE DOES NOT REDUCE ANY OF THE APPROVED LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND HAS BEEN APPROVED.
AND BY REQUESTING TO CLOSE THE EASEMENT, UM, THE APPLICANT EXPLAINS THAT IT'S LEAVING IN PLACE COULD ALLOW UTILITIES AND INSTALL FACILITIES AND REMOVE TREES IN AN AREA INTENDED FOR PRESERVATION CLOSING.
IT REMOVES THAT CONFLICT AND ALLOWS THE VEGETATION TO COUNT TOWARDS LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT BENEFITS THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE BY NOT HAVING THOSE TREES IN THE EASEMENT BECAUSE THEY CAN CLAIM CREDIT FOR THEM.
SO SHORT AND SWEET THE TREES ARE STAYING OR THE TREES ARE GOING? THE TREES ARE STAYING.
AND THERE ALSO PREVIOUS THERE'S IT'S, THEY ARE IN AN APPROVED LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE TREES ARE STAYING BUT THEN THEY'RE ALSO ADJACENT TO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
AND THE APPLICANT IS WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY.
THE TREES ARE ON NOT THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE WEST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS? COUNSEL, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'D MAKE A MOTION FOR THE TREES TO STAY AND PASS THIS ITEM
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[M. Public Hearing and Consideration of Approval of Ordinance No. 4109 Amending Title 2, Administration and Personnel, of the Edmond Municipal Code by Amending Chapter 2.92, Urban Forestry Commission; Amending Section 2.92.010 Established, Composition, Nomination, Appointment, Terms, and Organization; Amending Section 2.92.020 Definitions; Amending Section 2.92.030 Purpose and Mission; Amending Section 2.92.040 Duties and Powers; Amending Section 2.92.050 Meetings; Amending Section 2.92.060 Cause for Removal; Adding Section 2.92.070 Private Tree Maintenance; Adding Section 2.92.080 Public Tree Maintenance; Adding Section 2.92.090 Street Tree Maintenance; Providing for Additional Definitions; Providing for Regulations Regarding Public and Private Trees; Providing for Repealer and Severability; And Declaring an Emergency. (Citywide)]
ITEM FIVE M PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 1 0 9 AMENDING TITLE TWO ADMINISTRATION AND PERSONNEL OF THE ADMIN MUNICIPAL CODE BY AMENDING CHAPTER 2.92 URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION AMENDING SECTION 2.9 2.010 ESTABLISHED COMPOSITION NOMINATION APPOINTMENT TERMS AND ORGANIZATION AMENDING SECTION 2.9 2.020 DEFINITIONS AMENDING SECTION 2.9 2.030.I'M NOT GONNA READ THE REST OF THAT 'CAUSE I KNOW I'M GONNA MESS SOMETHING UP BEFORE I GET THERE.
MR. BRIAN, WOULD YOU CARE TO ENLIGHTEN US HERE? YES.
I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT A TRY, SIR.
UM, DURING RECENT CODIFICATION OF, UH, ORDINANCE 4 0 7 9, WHICH WAS PASSED IN MARCH OF 2026, WHICH MODIFIED A FEW ITEMS RELATED TO THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMISSION, WHICH YOU ENUMERATED THERE, A DRAFTING ERROR RESULTED IN PROVISIONS AND DEFINITIONS BEING REMOVED.
AS SOON AS STAFF NOTICE THIS ERROR, WE WORK QUICKLY TO CORRECT IT AND I APPRECIATE
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THE FLEXIBILITY AND PROFESSIONALISM OF THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IN HELPING US WITH THIS PROCESS.STAFF REQUEST RE-APPROVAL OF THESE UPDATES AND APPROVAL OF THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE.
HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS HERE.
SO MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FI ITEM FIVE M SECOND, WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE ON ITEM FIVE M.
SECOND WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[N. Consideration of Approval of a Budget Amendment for a Supplemental Appropriation to Provide Budget Authority for the Mobile Crisis Grant Fund for the Behavioral Health Mobile Crisis Team Partnerships Grant; $750,000.00. (Citywide)]
IN CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO PROVIDE BUDGET AUTHORITY FOR THE MOBILE CRISIS GRANT FUND FOR THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH MOBILE CRISIS TEAM PARTNERSHIP GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $750,000.CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS TO GIVE US BUDGET AUTHORITY SO THEY CAN RECEIVE THE GRANT FUNDS AND SPEND THE GRANT FUNDS.
UH, FEDERAL REGULATION THAT, UH, REQUIRES US TO FUNDS CAN'T CO-MINGLE.
WE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT, UH, AT THE END OF JULY.
SO IT WAS PRIOR TO ANY BUDGET, UM, DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD EARLIER IN THE SPRING THAT APPROVED THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE ON.
UM, IT'S FOR PERSONNEL COST AS WELL AS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR OUR PARTNERS THAT WE'LL BE CARRYING OUT THE, UH, PROGRAMMING THROUGH THIS GRANT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE ONE.
YOU JUST, YOU JUST SAID IT'S PAYING FOR PERSONNEL.
IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S THE GRANT REQUIRES A, UH, 0.50 FULL TIME OR 0.5 PERSON TO OVERSEE THE GRANT, THE PROGRAMMING CALLED A PROGRAM DIRECTOR.
UM, THAT IS A GRANT REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS AN EVALUATOR.
WE'RE SPLITTING THE DUTIES OF THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR, EXCUSE ME, BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.
SO IT'LL BE SPLIT 0.25 BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.
AND THEN, UH, THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR COORDINATOR, JULIANA MCCULLOUGH WILL BE THE EVALUATOR, WHICH, UH, WILL BE RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT, UM, FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE CURRENTLY BEING PAID OUT A DIFFERENT FUND.
SO WE'RE NOT HIRING ANYBODY NEW? NO SIR.
AND HOW LONG DOES THIS GRANT LAST? FOUR YEARS.
AT THE END FOUR YEARS, THEY'LL GO BACK TO HOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY BEING FUNDED AND YOU'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR BUDGET TO COVER THAT COST.
I WILL MAKE A NOTE FOR FORECAST IT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
IT'LL BE SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[O. Consideration of Approval of a Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget Amendment for a Transfer of Appropriation within the Field Services Fund from Contract Services to Miscellaneous Material and Supplies; $395,000.00. (Citywide)]
OH CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF A FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26 BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION WITHIN THE FIELD SERVICES FUND FROM CONTRACT SERVICES TO MISCELLANEOUS MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $395,000.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, THIS IS A TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN THE FIELD SERVICES WATERLINE MAINTENANCE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN AUDIT OF OUR CENTRAL WAREHOUSE WHERE WE, UH, HOUSE OUR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS IS A TRANSFER WITHIN THAT FUND.
IT DOES NOT INCREASE THAT BUDGET.
IT, IT, IT TRANSFERS FROM THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES TO THE MISCELLANEOUS SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS.
LINE ITEM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? I I WANTED TO GET THEM FIRST.
UH, DID WE LEARN SOMETHING HERE FOR HOW WE NEED TO BE TRACKING THIS IN THE FUTURE? JUST CURIOUS.
NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY A TIMING ISSUE.
IT'S, IT'S, WE HAD MATERIALS RECEIVED INTO THE WAREHOUSE AT THE END OF A PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, FFY 25.
AND IT, WE WERE NOT INVOICED OR THOSE MATERIALS WERE NOT ISSUED OUT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING BUDGET YEAR.
SO IT CREATED THAT OFFSET IT, IT TYPICALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THIS AMOUNT.
UH, BUT WE BELIEVE DUE TO THE A MI SMART METER, UH, INVENTORY THAT WE HAD RECEIVED INTO THE WAREHOUSE ALONG WITH SOME OTHER ISSUES WITH, UM, HAVING TO STOP MORE MATERIAL BECAUSE
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OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, IT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY DEAL WITH.BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE AUDITS, YOU TYPICALLY WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GET, HAS TO GET ADDRESSED AND WE'RE CATCHING UP ON WATER, UH, LEAK REPAIRS.
YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT'S A QUESTION.
HOW MUCH OF IT'S A COMMENT AND I KNOW MS. PANIS IS BACK THERE READY TO THROW THINGS AT ME.
SO, UM, THE 20 25, 20 26 BUDGET IS DONE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT UNDER STATE STATUTE WE CAN AMEND A BUDGET THAT'S OVER IF THE MONEY IS IN THE FUND AND CAN BE PAID.
IT'S AN ACCOUNTING TRANSACTION AND IF WE START, ACTUALLY START, IF WE CONTINUE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO A BUDGET THAT'S CLOSED, WE TRULY LOSE ALL VISIBILITY OF WHERE WE DID NOT DO AS WELL AS WE SHOULD AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
DO WHAT THE ACCOUNTANTS NEED TO DO TO GET IT RIGHT IN THE BOOKS, BUT IT SHOULD JUST SHOW THAT WE'RE OVER IN ONE PART OF THE BUDGET AND UNDER IN ANOTHER PART.
AND I KNOW THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES HERE AND SOMEDAY MAYBE EITHER SOMEONE WILL CONVINCE ME OR I'LL CONVINCE SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO WELL, HAD IT NOT BEEN THIS LARGE OF AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED, IT, IT JUST WOULD'VE HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES.
BUT THIS WAS A PARTICULARLY LARGER AMOUNT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM.
[P. Consideration of Approval of a Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget Amendment for a Transfer of Appropriation within the Liability / Tort Claim Fund from Budgets for Group Insurance Premiums and Insurance and Bonds to Transfers; $70,000.00. (Citywide)]
P CONSIDERED APPROVAL OF A FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26 BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION WITHIN THE LIABILITY TORT CLAIM FUND FROM BUDGETS FOR GROUP INSURANCE PREMIUMS AND INSURANCE BONDS TO TRANSFERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $70,000.KATHY PANAS, FINANCE DIRECTOR.
ITEMS OP AND Q ARE ALL A RESULT OF AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS AND THINGS THAT WE FOUND.
THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT OUR WORKERS' COMP RESERVE FUND HAS A CERTAIN BALANCE BASED ON A FIDUCIARY STUDY.
WE RECEIVED THAT STUDY IN OCTOBER AND IT'S REQUIRING A TRANSFER.
SO NOT ALL OF ALL THE THREE OF THESE, THEY'RE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS AND THEY DO NOT INCREASE THE OVERALL BUDGET, BUT THEY ARE TRANSFERS UNDER OUR CURRENT TRANSFER POLICY.
WE COULDN'T DO IT ANY OTHER WAY OTHER THAN TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
MAYBE TO MODIFY SOME, UH, WORDING ON THAT.
BUT THIS YEAR WE DO DEFINITELY NEED TO BRING THESE TO YOU.
THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO YOU NOW IS THAT IF WE DON'T GET THEM APPROVED, IT WILL DELAY OUR AUDIT.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THESE.
WE CAN'T LEAVE A CATEGORY IN A DEFICIT POSITION OR WE WILL GET WRITTEN UP.
THESE ARE ALL JUST TRANSFERS TO COVER THE PROPER CATEGORY.
SO WE'LL WORK ON IT NEXT YEAR TOO ON THIS TRANSFER POLICY THAT POSSIBLY TRANSFERS DON'T COME TO YOU.
AND JUST TRUE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
BUDGET AMENDMENTS WOULD BE IF YOU TRULY INCREASE YOUR BUDGET OR DECREASE YOUR BUDGET, DECREASE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE REVENUE COME IN, INCREASE BECAUSE, UM, YOU JUST SOMETHING UNEXPECTED GENERALLY SPEAKING.
BUT, UM, WE BROUGHT IT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO FINISH OUR AUDIT.
AND, UM, I GUESS I'VE SAID EVERYTHING HERE, THE DEBT DOES, DOES THESE TRANSFERS DO NOT INCREASE THE BUDGET AT ALL.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ONE? ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? CAN I JUST SAY DITTO ON MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS? SURE.
IT'S THE STUFF YOU FIND IN AN AUDIT THOUGH, SO I'M GLAD THEY'RE DOUBLE CHECKING US.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[Q. Consideration of Approval of a Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Budget Amendment for a Transfer of Appropriation from the Administrative Support Fund Budget for Human Resources - Contract Services to the Group Insurance Fund for Insurance Claims Expenses; $30,000.00. (Citywide)]
ONTO ITEM FIVE Q, CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26.BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR TRANSFER APPROPRIATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FUND, BUDGET FOR HUMAN RESOURCES, CONTRACT SERVICES TO THE GROUP INSURANCE FUND FOR INSURANCE CLAIMS AND EXPENSES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
CAROLINE PIERCE, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN HUMAN RESOURCES.
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THIS ITEM IS A TRANSFER FROM HUMAN RESOURCES OVER TO THE GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE FUND.UM, PRIMARILY IT IS DUE TO A LAG OF CLAIMS PAYMENT, MEANING WHEN THE CLAIMS INCUR, IT CAN ACTUALLY TAKE UP TO A YEAR FOR CLAIMS TO GET PAID.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT MONEY IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES BUDGET.
WE ARE ASKING TO TRANSFER IT OVER TO THE GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE FUND TO GET IT SHORT UP DUE TO THE AUDIT QUESTIONS AND WHEN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM Q.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE ME FOR A MOTION? I WOULD.
I'D LIKE TO RECESS THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL 6:47 PM I HAVE A MOTION.
OH, WE'RE RECESSED UNTIL 6 47.
[R. Lake Arcadia Improvements:]
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FIVE R LAKE ARCADIA IMPROVEMENTS.R ONE IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FROM PARK TAX RESERVES TO PARK TAX LAND BETTERMENTS TO FUND MASTER PLAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT LAKE ARCADIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000.
ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF AN ENTERPRISE VIDEO SYSTEM FOR LAKE ARCADIA FROM DIGIS SECURITY SYSTEMS ON OKLAHOMA STATE CONTRACT SW ONE TEN FOUR EIGHT D IN THE AMOUNT OF $89,327 AND 87 CENTS.
HELLO, UH, FRANK HALE, INTERIM INTERIM DIRECTOR WITH PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, THE $250,000 THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY AVAILABLE CAPITAL FUNDS IN OUR BUDGET.
UM, WE HAD A COUPLE OF UNEXPECTED, UM, EXPENDITURES.
THIS ONE WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT WHENEVER WE WERE CREATING THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, BUT THE $250,000 WOULD BE STRICTLY USED FOR ONE, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MOMENT.
AND THE SECOND PART OF IT IS THE GATES AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING AT THE PARK ENTRANCES.
DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER TWO AS WELL? YES.
UM, THE, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THERE ARE TWO PORT THAT USING THIS 250,000, UM, APPROXIMATELY 90,000 AS FOR THE CAMERAS.
THIS INCLUDES THE ONSITE SERVER SUPPORT, WHICH IS, UH, ONE OF THE LARGER PIECES OF THE EXPENDITURE.
UM, BUT IT ALSO, THESE CAMERAS ARE, ARE ABLE TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR, SAY, CITY HALL AND SOME OTHER LOCATIONS.
UM, A SMALL BIT OF THIS IS FOR A LICENSING, UM, BUT THAT'S EVERY THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND IT'S AROUND 30,000.
SO BETWEEN THE TWO MAIN PIECES HERE, UM, ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS PROVIDING THE FUNDING FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, BUT COMBINED IT'S APPROXIMATELY $250,000 THAT WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IN ORDER TO GATE GET THE, UH, GATES, CAMERAS AND OTHER, UM, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT AT ARCADIA LAKE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HI, PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN.
HI, MY NAME'S SKYLA AND I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE.
UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE AI SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM AND IT'S BEING DISPERSED ALL OVER OUR TOWN.
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SERIOUS MA'AM, MA'AM, DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECURITY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE LAKE OR ALL OVER TOWN? YES.YES, BECAUSE IT'S THE, PLEASE, PLEASE CONTAIN YOUR COMMENTS TO JUST THE LAKE.
IT'S THE SAME SYSTEM AS FLOCK.
SO YOU CAN, IT'S A AI SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WITH A SEARCH, UM, A SEARCH BAR WHERE YOU PUT KEYWORDS IN TO, TO, YOU KNOW, PICK WHAT YOU WANT OR, UH, FIND PEOPLE AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, USING LIKE GENDER, UH, SEX, UH, AGE, ALL THAT STUFF.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE FLOCK CAMERAS DO TOO.
IT'S THE SAME THING, JUST A NAME.
I HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD THAT THESE ARE LPR CAMERAS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS LIKE WE HAVE HERE AT CITY HALL.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.
SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTED TOWARDS THIS IMPROVEMENT AT THE LAKE.
UM, THESE CAMERAS ARE ALREADY BEING, A JUDGE HAS ALREADY SAID THAT THESE ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE THEY TRACK YOUR LOCATION EVERYWHERE YOU GO.
THEY CONNECT TO YOUR PHONE AND THEY TRACK YOUR LOCATION.
MA'AM, YOU MISSED YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN GENERAL ABOUT AI AND THOSE SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING BECAUSE YOU ARRIVED LATE AND WE TOLD YOU THAT YOU COULD COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 9TH AND SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SECURITY AT LAKE ARCADIA AND THE VIDEO CAMERAS THAT WILL BE USED OUT THERE THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE USE ON THIS BUILDING HERE.
AND THEY ARE NOT READING YOUR LICENSE PLATES LIKE LPR CAMERAS.
WELL, YOU DON'T NEED A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER TO EVEN USE THE LPR CAMERAS.
SO YOU CAN EITHER, IT'S IRRELEVANT.
YOU CAN EITHER ADDRESS THIS ITEM OR YOU CAN SIT DOWN.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD DR.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THESE CAMERAS WILL ALL BE FACING OUTWARD.
UM, WE WON'T HAVE ANY CAMERAS THAT ARE MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.
THIS IS JUST MONITORING AND BEING ABLE TO TRACK WHO IS COMING INTO THE PARKS, UM, AT ANY OF THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? COUNSEL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MAYOR, THIS IS, WE GOT TWO MOTIONS HERE.
START WITH THE FIRST ONE, RIGHT? I'VE GOT A MOTION SECOND AND A SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION ON TO APPROVE ON R TWO.
SECOND, WE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[6. Recess of the Edmond City Council Meeting and Call to Order of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting.]
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW TO RECESS THE ADMIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.CALL TO ORDER THE ADMIN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING.
YOU GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE'RE IN PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY
[7. Public Works Authority General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Public Works Authority. Members of the Public Works Authority may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
MEETING NOW.ITEM SEVEN IS PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY.
GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE EXACTLY ONE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF PUBLIC WORK AUTHORITY.
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 12TH, 2026.
SECOND, WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
[B. Consideration of Approval of Professional Service Contract Amendment No. 4 with Carollo Engineers, Inc. for the CD16-00006 Coffee Creek WRRF Expansion project and the SS24-00007 Coffee Creek WRRF Clarifier Rehabilitation and Filter Splitter Box Improvements Project; $3,459,000.24 Increase. (Citywide)]
ITEM EIGHT B IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR WITH CARILLO ENGINEERS INC.
FOR THE CD 16 DASH 0 0 0 0 6 COFFEE CREEK, WRRF EXPANSION PROJECT.
REHABILITATION AND FILTER SPLITTER BOX IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT $3,459,000 INCREASE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JOY COTE AND I'M A WATER RESOURCES ENGINEER.
UM, CHRIS KNIFING AND WILL HUGGINS ARE OUT TODAY.
SO UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE STUCK WITH THE C SQUAD FILL IN, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST.
UM, THIS AMENDMENT REGARDS TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE COFFEE CREEK WATER RESOURCES RECOVERY FACILITY.
UH, ONE IS OUR LONGSTANDING PROJECT, THE WF EXPANSION
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THAT ADDED A NUMBER OF NEW COMPONENTS, INCLUDING A NEW HEADWORKS, NEW UV SYSTEM, AND OTHER, UH, FUNDAMENTAL COMPONENTS FOR OUR COMPLIANCE AND TREATMENT PROCESS.UM, THE COSTS THERE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION DELAYS AND, UM, OTHER ISSUES FROM OUR CONTRACTOR ON THE PROJECT.
AND THE SECOND PROJECT THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF REFERS TO OUR CLARIFIER REHABS FOR OUR EXISTING CLARIFIERS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS AGING AND OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER NEEDED TO PROVIDE, UM, DESIGN, UH, BIDDER, PREQUALIFICATION AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THAT PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT, UH, THIS AMENDMENT, EXCUSE ME, WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE OCTOBER 14TH PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING AND WAS VOTED FOR APPROVAL QUESTIONS.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO, MR. MAYOR? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT BB SECOND.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND WE'LL SAY THAT YOU CAN COME BACK ANYTIME AND YOU CAN LEAVE THOSE OTHER TWO BACK IN THE OFFICE.
[9. Adjournment of the Edmond Public Works Authority Meeting and Reconvene the Edmond City Council Meeting.]
MR. MAYOR, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE EDMOND PUBLIC WORKS AUTHORITY MEETING AND RECONVENE THE EDMOND CITY COUNCIL.SECOND AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
WE'RE BACK AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
[10. City Council General Consent Items: Items listed under General Consent are usually approved as a group with the proper motion from a member of the Council. Members of the Council may pull any item under General Consent for separate discussion and/or action.]
ITEM 10 IS CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE 20 ITEMS THIS EVENING.I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL FOR CONSIDERATION ITEMS. 10 E, 10 H, 10 I AND 10 L.
ANY OTHER ITEMS? MR. MAYOR? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM EH, I AND L.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
I GOTTA STRAIGHTEN ALL MY PAPERS OUT OVER HERE.
[A. Consideration of City Council General Consent Agenda Items Pulled for Separate Discussion and/or Action.]
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 11 A, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL OF GENERAL CONSENT ITEMS PULLED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION.WE'LL START WITH ITEM 10 E, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 3 34 DASH 26 APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING CITY'S ENTRY INTO THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT ESTABLISHING THE OKLAHOMA COOPERATIVE LIQUID ASSET SECURITY SYSTEM, OKLAHOMA CLASS, AND AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M IN YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE, THIS ITEMS BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK THAT WE JOIN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH A NUMBER O OTHER CITIES, TOWNS, COUNTIES, AND MUNICIPALITIES, SPECIAL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE FOR THE PURPOSE OF POOLING OUR FUNDS TOGETHER AND INVESTING IN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.
IN ORDER TO INVEST IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A, IT'S GOTTA BE PERMITTED BY YOUR WRITTEN INVESTMENT POLICY.
WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO OUR INVESTMENT POLICY OVER THE PREVIOUS MONTHS TO ALLOW FOR THIS.
UM, AND IT'S FAIRLY RECENT, I BELIEVE IN THE LAST TWO, MAYBE THREE YEARS, OKLAHOMA STATE STATUTE ALLOWED FOR THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT POOL, UH, WITH CITIES, TOWNS, COUNTIES, AND MISS MODALITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
UH, OTHER STATES HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, BUT OKLAHOMA IS A LITTLE BIT LATE TO THE LATE TO THE GAME.
ETHAN WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THESE REALLY QUICKLY.
I KNOW THE FINANCE AUDIT, UH, COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY REVIEWED THESE, BUT SINCE VERY KIND OF SMALL AMOUNT GOVERNANCE, INTERNAL CONTROL STUFF IN HERE.
SO I'M GONNA BE ASKED TO APPROVE IT.
I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT'S A GREAT IDEA.
WHEN, WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, IT KIND OF, IT'S HEAD SCRATCHING.
NORMALLY IN GOVERNMENT, WE MAKE IT HARDER ON OURSELVES.
THIS IS DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT DO ACCORDING TO STATUTORY OR GAP ACCOUNTING.
WE'RE MINGLING FUNDS INTO A COMBINED POOLED ACCOUNT.
SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF UPSIDE.
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THIS IS FIXED INCOME STUFF.IT'S AN INEFFICIENT MARKETPLACE.
I CAN BUY SECURITIES AT THREE, FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES AND, AND GET TOTALLY DIFFERENT COSTS AND YIELD FACTORS.
SO, SO WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO POOL AND BUY LARGER AMOUNTS, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT BETTER IN THEORY.
UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE GIVE UP IN THAT AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS LIKE, UM, IT IT IT'S DESIGNED FOR OPERATING CAPITAL ABOVE AND AND RESERVES ABOVE DEBT NEEDS AND, AND OPERATING EXPENSES.
DO WE KNOW IF WE QUANTIFIED WHAT THAT AMOUNT MIGHT BE THAT'S ELIGIBLE TO BE PUT IN THIS POOLED AGREEMENT? TYPICALLY WE KEEP EXTRA CASH ON HAND IN GENERAL, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE WOULD KEEP IN OUR NORMAL CHECKING ACCOUNT FOR OPERATING EXPENSES, WE USUALLY KEEP ABOUT DOUBLE WHAT WE NEED ON A TYPICAL BASIS.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE KEEP THE EXCESS FUNDS THAT WE CAN'T KEEP IN THE CHECKING ACCOUNT IN A MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT.
UM, SO THIS, THIS ACCOUNT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY, OR THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL WILL BE A SUPPLEMENT TO NOT A REPLACEMENT OF OUR EXISTING MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT.
SO INSTEAD OF PUT PUTTING ALL OF OUR EXCESS FUNDS IN THE MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT AS WE DO NOW, WE'RE GONNA PUSH A, A SMALL PORTION OVER THERE TO THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.
IF IT'S APPROVED, UH, WE'RE GONNA USE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS PROPERLY.
WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A FEW MONTHS OF LIMITED USAGE BEFORE MAYBE REVISITING AND DECIDING IF WE WANT TO REALLOCATE HOW MUCH WE'RE PUTTING IN OUR MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT VERSUS THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.
I DON'T THINK I INCLUDED ANY, NO, I DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY RATES ON THE BACKGROUND OF THE ITEM.
BUT THE OKLAHOMA CLASS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL AS OF FRIDAY, LAST FRIDAY WAS RETURNING 3.99% ANNUALLY.
AND OUR MONEY IS THAT NET YIELD DIFFERENCE? EXCUSE ME.
NET YIELD AFTER, AFTER FEES AFTER.
AND OUR MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT IS THROUGH GOLDMAN SACHS AND IT'S EARNING 3.8% AS OF FRIDAY.
AND THAT'S ALSO NET AFTER FEES.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT 19 BASIS POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OKLAHOMA CLASS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL AND OUR EXISTING MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT.
WHO'S THE INVESTMENT MANAGER? WHO MANAGES THE, THE FUND OKLAHOMA CLASS.
BUT THERE'S SOMEBODY OTHER THAN OKLAHOMA CLASS THAT'S DOING THAT.
OH, THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH UMB BANK.
UMB BANK IS, IS THE CUSTODIAL RIGHT.
BUT THE MANAGER THAT'S MAKING DECISIONS, WE LOSE ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THOSE INVESTMENTS WHEN WE PUT IT IN THE POOL.
THEY'RE ONLY INVESTING IN ITEMS THAT ARE APPROVED BY STATE STATUTE.
BUT OKLAHOMA CLASS IS THE FUND MANAGER.
THEY'RE NOT A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, THEY'RE NOT RELATED TO THE STATE.
THEY'RE JUST MANAGING A RELATIONSHIP WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES, CITIES, AND MUNICIPALITIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF INVESTING THEIR FUNDS.
SO OKLAHOMA CLASS IS THE MANAGER OF THE ACCOUNT, THE BOARD OF OKLAHOMA CLASS OVERSEE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ONES MAKING THE INVESTMENTS.
PTMA, WHO'S OWNED BY PMA SECURITIES.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE, IN THE AGREEMENT, IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO, UH, FEES CHARGED AND PASSED UPSTREAM TO THE PARENT COMPANY? NOT THAT I RECALL IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
UM, AND, AND ALSO THIS ALLOWS US, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING, IT ALLOWS US TO BROADEN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT WE CAN INVEST IN BECAUSE THEY CAN INVEST IN COMMERCIAL PAPER CORPORATE DEBT.
WE CANNOT, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER HEAD SCRATCHING THING TO ME, THAT THEY ALLOW US THROUGH THIS POOLED AGREEMENT TO ACTUALLY INVEST IN THINGS WE CAN'T DO OURSELVES.
I I DON'T MEAN TO CORRECT YOU, BUT STATE STATUTE DOES ACTUALLY ALLOW CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES, US, IN THIS CASE, TO INVEST IN COMMERCIAL PAPER.
SHOULD WE HAVE THE CH SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO DO SO CORPORATE DEBT AS WELL? UM, I DON'T THINK ANY LONG-TERM DEBT, I BELIEVE STATE STATUTE JUST ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL PAPER.
AND, AND WE KNOW, AND, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF CURIOUS.
IT'S BASED, BASED UPON A DOLLAR NAV SHARE ONE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I TRIED TO THINK OF WAYS THAT COULD BE IMPACTED AND ONE OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A NEW WHAT, JANUARY, 2025, NEW, NEW POOLED FUND.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO'S PARTICIPANTS, BUT IF THERE'S EVER ANYBODY LARGE THAT HAS A REAL NEED AND DECIDES I'VE GOTTA PULL EVERYTHING OUT OF THERE, THAT $1 NAV SHARE PRICE IS IMPACTED.
YOU COULD NEGATIVELY BANK ON SITUATIONS IN THAT CASE.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO WATCH AND KEEP, UM, KEEP TRACK OF.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A FULL LIST OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE POOL, BUT I KNOW SOME OF THE BIGGER PLAYERS ARE.
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CLEVELAND COUNTY.UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW OTHER TOWNS IN MUNICIPALITIES, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE FULL LIST.
SOMEBODY WHO'S THE BIG GORILLA IN THE FUND RIGHT.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK, I THINK IT'S GOOD OVERALL.
I JUST WANTED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UPSIDE DOWNSIDES OF, UH, OF THAT POOLED ARRANGEMENT.
AND IF WE HAD LOOKED AT, I THINK ALSO, UH, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT RESOLUTION REAL CLOSELY.
I THINK THE NAME OF THE POOL IS LISTED REAL, REAL CLOSE, BUT ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER IT'S PLURAL OR WHETHER IT'S NOT, AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE, I I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU DO IT.
AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD, ETHAN.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM H, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 3 7 2 2 3 7 DASH TWO SIX, SUPPORTING THE CITY'S APPLICATION SEEKING FUNDS FOR BROADWAY AND COFFEE CREEK ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA GOVERNMENTS SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THIS AND THE OTHER TWO ITEMS PRIOR TO THIS ONE ARE GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR STBG, UM, UCA THAT WE APPLY FOR.
UH, THEY WERE LOOKED AT FROM A LIST.
AND THESE THREE, UH, THE TWO PRIOR AND THIS ONE SCORED HIGHER OR WE THINK THEY'RE GONNA SCORE HIGH.
UM, THIS IS COMING FROM, UH, FUTURE MONEY THAT WE HOPE WILL GO THROUGH THE FEDERAL APPROPRIATION AND FY UH, 2030.
I CAN ANSWER ANY GRANT QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE MR. LAWRENCE IS HERE FOR ANY ENGINEERING QUESTIONS.
I'VE CONTENDED THIS IS ONE OF OUR MOST UNSAFE INTERSECTIONS IN THE WHOLE CITY OF EDMOND.
I'VE KNOWN PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN KILLED ONE FRIEND YEARS AND YEARS AGO, BECAME A PARAPLEGIC BECAUSE OF IT.
I MEAN, IT'S, WE'VE GOT TO GET TURN LANES AND THINGS BECAUSE IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD AND WHEN A TRAIN COMES AND THREE CARS GO EAST, I MEAN WEST, NOBODY CAN MOVE.
AND THEN PEOPLE START DOING REALLY, REALLY DUMB STUFF AT THAT INTERSECTION.
SO HOPE WE CAN, UH, MR. LAWRENCE HOPE WE CAN MOVE AS FAST AS POSSIBLY CAN TO START ON IMPROVING THAT.
'CAUSE IT'S, WE, WE'VE ADDED ABOUT 600 HOMES IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH MORE TO COME WITHIN A MILE OF THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH WAS ALREADY HORRIBLE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO IT'S BEEN A BIG, BIG PUSH OF MINE HERE AT THE CITY AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE GRANT AND APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I'LL JUST MOVE TO APPROVE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT.
SECOND, WE'VE GOT A MOTION, A SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.
AYE, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF LAND WATER CONSERVATION FUND GRANT WITH THE OKLAHOMA TOURISM RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THE CHARLES D. LAMB PRESERVE IMPROVEMENTS.
HI, FRANK HILL, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC.
UM, THIS IS ONE WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON FOR A WHILE.
THIS IS ONE THAT WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ADD, I BELIEVE 800,000 ARE APPROXIMATELY THERE IN FUNDS, UM, THAT GO TOWARDS THE APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION THAT WE'VE COLLECTED IN TAX FOR THAT, UM, SPECIAL PROJECT.
SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THIS AGREEMENT IS FULLY SIGNED AND IN PLACE.
SO THIS IS A BIG STEP WHERE WE CAN FINALLY MOVE INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE FOR THE PROJECT AND I THINK IT'LL MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY.
GET SEEING SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS.
UM, IT DID TAKE US ABOUT A YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS TO GO THROUGH.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT AND THE ADDITIONAL 800,000 ESSENTIALLY ALL BY THUS THE BRIDGE.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE DIFFERENT
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TRAILS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE AND THE OUTDOOR CLASSROOM WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO OTHER POCKETS OR BUDGETS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE MONEY.I ASKED TO PULL THIS ONE JUST SO PEOPLE COULD HEAR WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS LIST.
I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I HAD, I LOOKED BACK AT MY EMAIL, I HAD EMAILED BRAD RAINEY, UM, IN MARCH ABOUT THIS THAT SAID, WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET STARTED? YES SIR.
AND HE SAID, WE GOTTA WAIT FOR THIS GRANT AND THE NOTICE TO PROCEED FROM THIS GRANT.
SO WE HAVE THAT NOTICE TO PROCEED NOW, I'M ASSUMING, RIGHT? CHRIS? HE'S SAYING YES.
AND HE SAID IT WOULD BE ABOUT A YEAR FROM GRANT TO COMPLETION AT THAT POINT.
SO DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT STILL? I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
I WOULD HOPE FOR EVEN LESS THAN THAT.
SO ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, IT SHOULD BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE? I BELIEVE SO, YEAH.
IS THIS WHERE I SAY, SO IF I SIGN SOMETHING TONIGHT, YOU START TOMORROW.
UH, GIVE ME HORN IS THE NEXT PERSON ON THE SPEED DIAL TOMORROW AND SAY, LET'S GET IT STARTED.
SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION THEN A SECOND.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 10 L, CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.
AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, ACCEPTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,250,000.
MS. BATTERSON, CHRISTIE BATTERSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS BASICALLY AMENDING OUR ORIGINAL GRANT AGREEMENT WITH EPA.
THIS WAS CONGRESSIONAL MONEY SET ASIDE BY OUR CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS.
UM, BACK IN 22, WE WON $10 MILLION.
UM, THEN WE'VE WON, UH, $2.52 MILLION AND A SEVEN MIL, I'M SORRY, IN A $5 MILLION.
SO ALL TOGETHER 17 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER $17 MILLION.
THEY WANTED ALL ON ONE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE EACH TODAY AND IT'S FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I ASKED TO PULL THIS ONE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT.
I MEAN, THIS IS MORE FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY, SO WE'LL TAKE IT.
RIGHT? UM, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY.
BUT, UM, MORE GRANT MONEY THAT WE CAN PUT TOWARDS A WATER PLAN.
OF COURSE, GOING THROUGH THE RATE STUDY GAUNTLET THAT WE ALL WENT THROUGH, I'M HOPEFUL THIS WILL GO, YOU KNOW, HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING BY CHANCE? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, UM, PART OF WHERE IT'S GOING.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW? OKAY, GONNA ASK CHRIS OFFLINE.
I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[B. Presentation and Discussion of How Data Centers as a Land Use are Incorporated into the Proposed Draft Unified Development Code. (Citywide)]
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 11, CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION ITEMS. UH, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH A, HAVEN'T WE? SO NOW WE'RE ON TO B PRESENTATION DISCUSSION OF HOW DATA CENTERS AS A LAND USE ARE INCORPORATED IN THE PROPOSED DRAFT UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.I THINK I DO HAVE SOME SLIDES.
UM, AS I'M GETTING STARTED, UH, OF COURSE I'M KEN BRYAN.
I WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, THE CHRIS ING DIRECTOR OF WATER RESOURCES AND GLEN FISHER, DIRECTOR OF EDMOND ELECTRIC.
THEY'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US, UH, LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND PULL THESE ITEMS TOGETHER.
UM, AS A QUICK REMINDER, IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, WE APPROVED A MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO, UH, DO SOME RESEARCH, UM, INCLUDING, UM, DISCUSS AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE MIGHT FOLD DATA CENTERS INTO, UM, THE DRAFT DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, THE CONTENT I'M GETTING READY TO SHARE WITH YOU IS LARGELY DERIVED FROM A FORM HOSTED BY THE ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA GOVERNMENTS WORK COMPLETED BY THE OSU EXTENSION OFFICE AND OTHER RELEVANT PROJECTS THAT OUR CODE CONSULTANT HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
SO HERE'S THE, UH, DEFINITION THAT WE'RE, UH, THAT APPEARS IN THE, UH, PROPOSED.
UM, BASICALLY A FACILITY THAT HOUSES A COLLECTION OF COMPUTER SERVERS AND ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS, UM, TYPICALLY REQUIRE LARGE AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY AND WATER, STRICT TEMPERATURE CONTROL AND HIGH SECURITY.
GENERALLY HAVE A FEW EMPLOYEES ON SITE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
UM, OF COURSE THE INTENT HERE IS THAT THESE ARE LARGE SCALE STANDALONE, UH, DATA CENTERS.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, THAT THEY WOULD BE PROPOSED IN.
UH, THIS IS OUR NEW DISTRICT FOR, UH, EMPLOYMENT AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
IT'S REFERRED TO AS SUBURBAN FLEX INDUSTRIAL PROVIDES MANUFACTURING, WHOLESALING, WAREHOUSING,
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THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT ASSOCIATE WITH THAT, UM, WITH THOSE TERMS. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, SNAPSHOT OF THE USE TABLE HERE IN THE BOTTOM SHOWS THAT A DATA CENTER WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.AND THEN, UM, THOSE STANDARDS, THE USE BASED STANDARDS IS WHAT FOLLOWS.
SO, SLIDE APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE.
THIS IS WHAT A ZONING CODE LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU START PULLING IT APART AND COPYING IT ONTO A POWERPOINT SLIDE.
UM, BUT THE INITIAL PROVISION HERE WOULD BE THAT A DATA CENTER WOULD ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT WOULD, UM, INCLUDE DETAILS AT LEAST AS FOLLOWS.
IT SHOULD COMPLY WITH MANDATORY CURTAILMENT ORDERS ISSUED BY THE CITY AND, AND APPLICABLE UTILITY PROVIDERS.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, FOR ISSUES LIKE DROUGHT CONDITIONS OR ELECTRIC GRID EMERGENCIES, WHICH SHOULD SPECIFY A LIMIT ON DAILY WATER.
USE ANY INCREASE IN APPROVED PEAK ELECTRICAL LOAD OR PEAK WATER DEMAND.
BEYOND THE LEVEL OF ESTABLISHED, UM, IN THE INITIAL APPROVAL, WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT OF THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AGREEMENT AND A UTILITY CAPACITY REVIEW.
DATA CENTERS SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NECESSARY UPGRADES OF ELECTRIC WATER WASTEWATER AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OR EXPANSION.
CITY WOULD RETAIN RIGHTS TO A TRANSPARENT PROCESS, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO PUBLICLY REPORT WATER, ENERGY AND EMISSIONS DATA, THE RAMP SCHEDULE FOR THE DATA CENTER COMING FULLY ONLINE.
EXPECTATIONS OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO WATER, WASTEWATER ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS AND POTENTIAL COMMUNITY COST SHARING AGREEMENTS.
A REQUIREMENT FOR FINANCIAL ASSURANCE IN THE EVENT OF DECOMMISSIONING OF THE SITE AGREEMENTS SHOULD BE EXECUTED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE LATEST POINT IN THE DEVELOPMENT CYCLE OF A, OF REALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, DATA CENTERS SHALL PROVIDE MANAGEMENT PLAN DETAILING THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION AT A MINIMUM WATER USE DROUGHT AND LONG, LONG-TERM SECURITY.
WHAT WATER SOURCES THEY'LL BE USED IF THEY'RE USING A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, THE FREQUENCY OF THE WATER WITHDRAWAL AND AN ESTIMATED WATER USE EFFICIENCY, UM, SET AT AN ANNUAL AVERAGE OF 1.8 OR LOWER, UH, SPECIFICATIONS.
REGARDING THE COOLING SYSTEM AND WASTEWATER, WE WANNA KNOW THE COOLING TECHNOLOGY THAT'S PROPOSED.
THE SOURCE OF WATER QUALITY PARAMETERS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE COOLING SYSTEM, WHAT CHEMICALS THEY MIGHT BE USING, HOW THE WATER'S TREATED.
UM, HOW TREATED WATER WILL BE DISPOSED OF, HOW THE WASTE HEAT IS RECOVERED, HOW THE COOLING PERFORMANCE WILL BE MAINTAINED IN EXTREME HEAT.
AND THEN, UM, ITEM SEVEN HERE IS NOT IN THE PROPOSED DRAFT.
THIS HAS BEEN, UM, A SUGGESTED ADDITION BASED ON INTERNAL REVIEW WITH THE AMOUNT AND ANTICIPATED QUALITY OF ANY WASTE STREAM THAT MAY BE DISCHARGED INTO THE CITY'S WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
UM, CONCERNING ELECTRICAL DEMAND AND GRID RELIABILITY, HOW POWER WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE SITE.
EXPECTED LOAD FACTORS, BOTH AVERAGE AND PEAK DEMAND.
ESTIMATED POWER USAGE EFFICIENCY, WHICH, UM, IS SET AT AN ANNUAL AVERAGE OF 1.55 OR LOWER.
UM, SPECIFICITY REGARDING THE UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER SUPPLY, INCLUDING FUEL TYPES, STORAGE CAPACITY, LOGISTICS REGARDING REFUELING.
UM, AND THEN SOME SPECIFICITY ON CRITICAL LOAD AND GENERATOR OPERATION BE SHOULD BE A SECTION ON DECOMMISSIONING ABANDONMENT AND LIABILITY AND THE, INCLUDING THE OPERATIONAL LIFESPAN AND A PLAN FOR DECOMMISSIONING THE FACILITY, INCLUDING SITE CLEANUP AND HANDLING OF E-WASTE.
AND YOUR REPORT SHOULD BE PROVIDED, WHICH WILL DETAIL WATER WASTEWATER ENERGY DATA, UM, NUMBERS ABOUT EFFICIENCY, TOTAL USAGE, AND ANY, UM, ACTIVITIES OR MEASURES THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE DURING TIMES OF DROUGHT OR GRID EMERGENCIES AND EMISSIONS REPORTS FOR THE FACILITY.
AND ANY BACKUP POWER SUPPLY, RECLAIMED WATER OR TREATED WASTEWATER SHOULD BE USED AS A WATER SOURCE UNLESS THIS REQUIREMENT PLACED AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE PROJECT.
UM, NOTE FROM WATER RESOURCES, THIS SYSTEM DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST, SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND, UM, OPERATED DATA CENTERS SHOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR BONUSES OR INCENTIVES ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE, THE CODE.
UM, WITHIN POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF, UH, HIGH PERFORMANCE CENTERS, THEY MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THAT PROVISION.
UM, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE ONSITE POWER, UM, IN ORDER ABILITY TO, UM, PROVIDE BACKUP POWER.
UM, THE BACKUP GENERATOR HAS SOME PROVISIONS ABOUT VIEW AND SHIELDING AND SOUND ATTENUATION, UM, WITH A COMMENT THAT WE MAY WANNA SPECIFY.
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UH, THE MAXIMUM SOUND LEVEL AS MEASURED AT THE PROPERTY LINE.UH, WATER RESOURCE FACILITIES, UH, DESIGNED FOR 45 DECIBELS AT THE PROPERTY LINE AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, AND THEN IF THE DATA CENTER IS DISCONTINUED, UH, USE FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS, UM, A NEW DATA CENTER AT THAT LOCATION SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS WITH THE PERMIT AND THE AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY IN GOOD REPAIR AND REMEDIATE THE PROPERTY.
EXPANSIONS TO DATA CENTER SHALL NOT BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
YOU MUST GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WAS, UM, USED TO ORIGINALLY APPROVE THE CENTER.
THOSE ARE THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN THE DRAFT CODE AT THIS TIME.
UM, OTHER POSSIBLE TOPICS WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, MORE SPECIFICITY RELATED TO EMISSIONS, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE BACKUP POWER SUPPLY, UH, REQUIRING CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING GRID.
IN OTHER WORDS, UM, WE MIGHT NOT WANT THEM TO BUILD A BACKUP POWER SUPPLY AND THEN JUST USE THAT AS THEIR POWER SUPPLY.
WE WANT THEM TO CONNECT TO THE GRID.
UM, AND THEN A BULLET HERE, UH, ABOUT CHALLENGES AT MAINTAINING THESE STANDARDS AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.
SO THESE, THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIFICITY IN HERE.
THIS MANY UNITS OF EFFICIENCY, BACKUP POWER, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WILL, IF THAT IS IN FACT IN OUR CODE, THAT WILL, WE'LL BE COMMITTING OURSELVES TO MAKING SURE WE KEEP THAT UP TO DATE, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO OFFER AT THIS POINT.
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE? QUESTIONS FIRST.
I'M, I'M REALLY, I I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WHISPER THAT WORD DATA CENTER.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO UTTER IT OUT LOUD IN, IN HERE, BUT, UM, THANKS FOR THE EFFORTS IN HERE.
HAVE WE, HAVE WE CROSSCHECK THIS WITH EOS AND LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN PASSED? I MEAN, I KNOW WE REITERATE SOME THAT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY STATE LAW CAN'T INCREASE POWER AND WATER AS A RESULT THEREOF.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT IT'S, I GUESS IT, EVEN IF IT'S SAID AGAIN, REPETITION'S NOT ALL BAD.
UM, THERE WAS ONE THING I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING AND MAYBE IT'S A SMALL POINT, PAGE EIGHT WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE GENERATOR AND SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE TALK ABOUT BEING BACK ONLINE WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME.
I THINK YOU AND I TALKED BEFORE, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY B2B KIND OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO REGULATE THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS.
UH, WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE CITY BUSINESS TO CITY.
I DON'T WANT CODE ENFORCEMENT OR CITY MANAGER HAVING TO DEAL WITH, UH, WITH THINGS THAT ARE REALLY BUSINESS TO BUSINESS KIND OF CONCERNS.
NOTHING TO CONCERN WITH THE CITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD WORK IN IS, UH, CONSIDERATION MUST BE GIVEN, MUST BE DETAILED WITH RESPECT TO WHAT, WHAT INVESTMENTS DO YOU INTEND TO MAKE FOR YOUR OWN ROADS, THE THINGS THAT SUPPORT YOUR CENTER.
WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING FOR SCHOOLS IN YOUR AREA? WHAT WILL YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY AS A COMMUNITY PARTNER? I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADDED IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT, BUT SOMETHING ABOUT, ABOUT THE, THE OVERALL DESIGNER.
LOOK, IT NEEDS TO BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD A LOT OF WAREHOUSES ON I 35 NOW SOUTH OF EDMOND.
UM, MOST OF THESE DATA CENTERS DON'T LOOK TOO MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THOSE.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THIS DEALS WITH PRIMARILY LARGE.
I MEAN, CAN WE MAKE THIS APPLICABLE TO ALSO MID-SIZE? YOU KNOW, THE 60,000 SQUARE FOOT, 90,000 SQUARE FOOT, NOT 800,000 ACRE TYPE TYPE CENTER.
I, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE.
I THINK THAT APPLIES TO THAT, THAT SMALL SIZE AS WELL.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T.
JUST THROWING THAT OUT FOR CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S A GREAT START, MR. MOORE.
I THINK THAT, UH, TOURISM VIDEO THAT WENT HAYWIRE MIGHT'VE BEEN FROM THAT DATA CENTER IN MISSISSIPPI CAUSING THAT UP HERE TONIGHT.
UH, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'VE NOT HAD A DATA CENTER APPLICATION IN EDMOND.
NOT, THERE'S ONE, NOT ONE ON THE BOOKS AT, AT YOUR OFFICE? NOT, NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
UH, AND THIS MORATORIUM EXPIRES WHEN, I BELIEVE IT'S THE END OF THE YEAR AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE DONE WITH THIS PRODUCT,
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UH, BY THE END OF THE YEAR.IT, IT MAY NEED SOME AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES OR PUBLIC FORUMS. UH, SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM EITHER 90 DAYS OR ANOTHER 120 DAYS, UH, WHILE YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS.
UH, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? IF, IF NEEDED, UH, ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH, I THINK HAVING A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM ON THAT DEADLINE, UM, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE IN IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WELL, UP TO THIS POINT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND UH, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM ME, LEMME KNOW.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAD A COUPLE THOUGHTS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS REALLY THOROUGH, SO YEAH, NICE JOB DOING IT REALLY QUICKLY.
WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU YOU GUYS A LOT OF TIME, SO THANKS FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
UM, I, I THINK UM, MAYBE TO COUNCILMAN FRAME'S POINT, AND I REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHENEVER WE DID A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THAT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIG ONES AND LITTLE ONES.
AND SO IT FEELS LIKE THE DEFINITION ON, I THINK IT'S SLIDE TWO HERE DESERVES YEAH, A LITTLE BIT OF MAYBE CATEGORIZATION OR CLARIFICATION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD APPLY IT TO IF WE JUST WANTED TO APPLY TO SUPER HUGE ONES THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE UPSET ABOUT OR IF IT SHOULD APPLY.
LIKE, PROBABLY NOT TO THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE BUSINESSES USE DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT? BUT SOMEWHERE MAYBE IN BETWEEN OR MAYBE WE CATEGORIZE IT.
UM, GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE TALKING TO THE OUTSIDE FOLKS TO GET, YOU KNOW, EXTERNAL INPUT AND BEST PRACTICES ON THIS.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE KNOW AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS YET.
UM, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB ON THE UDC OR HAVE SO FAR I FEEL LIKE, UH, GETTING, BEING METHODICAL ABOUT THAT AND GETTING INPUT ON THAT AND THEN REFINING IT OVER TIME.
SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW ON THIS PART KIND OF WHAT WAS THE, YOUR THOUGHT ON THE PATH FORWARD FROM HERE FOR THIS SECTION? IS THERE SOME KIND OF REFINEMENT OR REVIEW THAT'LL HAPPEN WITH CERTAIN GROUPS OR STARTING HERE? THIS GROUP? YEAH.
UM, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO THINK ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AROUND TOWN BOARDS, CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA DRAG IT OUT FOREVER, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, VALUABLE INPUT WE COULD GET FROM THAT.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN MOORE REITERATED THAT THERE'S NONE OF THESE ON THE HORIZON.
THIS IS A PREEMPTIVE STEP AND I THINK IT'S PUTTING THE CITY IN A, THE POSITION OF POWER AND THAT'S A WISE WAY TO APPROACH THIS.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EVER RUSHING INTO THIS IF ONE WERE TO COME, YOU KNOW, IN AS AN APPLICATION.
UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, I THINK THE SPECIFICITY OF IT IS A CHALLENGE.
THIS BOTTOM BULLET, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DESIGN STANDARDS LIKE, UH, APPENDIX OR WHATEVER THAT GOES WITH THE UDC.
I DON'T HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED AT MAYBE MOVING SOME OF THAT SPECIFICITY INTO THE STANDARDS GUIDE VERSUS UDC.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AND YOU HAVE MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER HOW THAT'S UPDATED.
AND THEN JUST TO TACK ONTO COUNCILMAN MOORE'S POINT, I WOULD SUPPORT AN EXTENDED MORATORIUM ON THIS TOO.
I DON'T WANNA RUSH INTO THIS, I DON'T WANNA RUSH INTO UDC.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE REALLY WELL ON THAT SO FAR.
SO IF THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE, I WOULD SUPPORT IT BASED ON A COUPLE OF THOSE COMMENTS.
DO YOU WANT US TO BRING YOU LIKE A 90 DAY EXTENSION, UH, AT ONE OF OUR NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS? JUST SO YOU'RE NOT, THERE ISN'T A RUSH AT LEAST.
I I WAS GONNA SAY GOOD THINGS COME IN TIME.
MS. MURDOCH NICHOLS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? SO I WANT TO KIND OF, I BUILD ON WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID HERE.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW INTEREST IN IT.
BUT I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IF WE DON'T HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE, IF SOMEONE DOES COME TO US AND WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO REGULATE IT, GUESS WHAT? IT'S GONNA GET PASSED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTROLS WE NEED.
SO FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE SAYING, OH, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SLIDE THIS PAST US, NO, IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYBODY EVER DOES COME TO US, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE TO REGULATE THE INDUSTRY.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOTHING AND WE'VE GOTTA GET SOMETHING IN PLACE.
I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY NO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A REASON FOR SAYING NO.
UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO YOUR DEFINITION.
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YOU REALLY NEED TO DEFINE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER, WHICH IS TYPICALLY 75 MEGAWATTS OF POWER, IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT OR BIGGER.WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE ON THOSE QUOTE SMALLER SERVER FARMS, WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM ON BROADWAY THAT MIDCON DATA MANAGES.
AND BY DEFINITION THEY'RE A DATA CENTER.
THE CITY OF EDMOND HAS A DATA CENTER, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A DATA CENTER.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT FOR THOSE ENTITIES THAT THEY GOTTA JUMP THROUGH ALL THESE HOOPS FOR LITERALLY A SMALL GROUP OF SERVERS THAT ARE RUNNING THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE DEFINITIONS DOWN SOLID AND DIFFERENTIATE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I WOULD SEE, FIND IT KIND OF HARD FOR THE HYPERSCALE THE WAY IT'S DONE TODAY FOR THEM TO FIND A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN EDMOND THAT'S NOT SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND WE, WE WOULDN'T WANT 'EM THERE.
UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I NOTICED WAS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SOUND ABATEMENT WALLS AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING THEY CAN'T BE ANY HIGHER THAN IS IN THE, THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT.
WELL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT GOOGLE HAS SEVERAL DATA CENTERS IN NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA WHERE ALL OF THAT BACKUP EQUIPMENT, ALL THE NOISE THAT'S GENERATED OUTTA THOSE FACILITIES IS ALL CONTAINED WITHIN A BUILDING.
NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED INCREDIBLE EAR PROTECTION WHEN YOU WALK IN THE BUILDING, BUT YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING WHEN THE DOORS ARE CLOSED.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK TO CONSIDER.
THERE'S SOME BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE.
WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF, OF THE OTHER COUNCILMAN'S COMMENTS HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE IF ANYONE COMES TO US, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE THAT WE NEED TO SAY, YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, IF MIDCON DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD ANOTHER BASICALLY FARM, SERVER FARM LIKE THEY HAVE ON BROADWAY EXTENSION, I MEAN, WHY WOULD WE NOT ENTERTAIN THAT? IT'S, IT'S THE ONE DOWN THERE I THINK IS LIKE 20, 30,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S ALL IN A BUNKER INSIDE A BUILDING, UH, BASICALLY INSIDE OF WHAT USED TO BE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND NOBODY KNOWS IT'S THERE.
AND SO WE'VE GOTTA BE REAL CAREFUL HOW WE DO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY USES A LARGE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN WHEN YOU SAY USES A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? WELL, AS A RESIDENTIAL USER, YEAH, I'M SURE IT DOES USE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY AND A LOT OF WATER, BUT THE WATER'S JUST FOR COOLING AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CORPORATE CUSTOMER.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THAT RIGHT.
UM, I THINK THIS IS RIGHT AND, UH, STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I THINK, I THINK PEOPLE WILL BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GONNA COME KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR AT SOME POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE IT'S GONNA BE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY'S GONNA BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT WE BETTER BE READY FOR IT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK WE'VE GOT DONE TO THIS POINT, AND I SAY LET'S JUST KEEP HAMMERING AWAY AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE SEE WHAT THE BEST OF THE BEST IS OUT THERE AND BUILD ON IT.
LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT AGAIN, CLOSELY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SHALL NOT QUALIFY FOR BONUS OR INCENTIVES.
IF LIKE ANNUAL WE OF LESS THAN ONE, UM, MEETING AN AVERAGE ANNUAL WATER USE EFFICIENCY OF LESS THAN ONE SHALL BE EXEMPT.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE OR WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO BE LOWERED.
I, I DON'T THINK THESE, THE ONE THING I DO NOT BELIEVE IS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE ANY INCENTIVE OR BONUS.
BUT I ALSO THINK, AND AND YOU CAN DOUBLE CHECK THIS, THAT THE NEW ONES, THE NEW CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS ARE MORE LIKE 0.2 TO 0.7.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE IT HARDER, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY OF THESE TO QUALIFY FOR BONUSES OR INCENTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES PROVIDING THE INCENTIVES OR BONUSES TO BE, TO EVEN BE IN PLACE.
AND, AND SECONDLY, I I, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT THE SMALL MID-SIZE 20, 60,000 DATA CENTERS, I I, I REALLY BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, TWO YEARS, BUT, AND UNFORTUNATELY, OR FORTUNATELY, HOWEVER YOU LOOK AT IT, WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF THESE.
BUT EMPLOYEE EMPLOYERS WITH 300 TO 500 EMPLOYEES WILL WANT
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TO HAVE A DATA CENTER.IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO 'EM, BUT SOMEWHERE IN PROXIMITY WHERE THEY'RE CLOSE TO THEIR DATA AND THEY REMOVE LA LATENCY BETWEEN RETRIEVING AND SENDING THEIR DATA.
SO I, I MEAN, IF IT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING IS NEXT TO THEIR OFFICE BUILDINGS, I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S, THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT, THAT REQUEST SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK IT'S A GOOD START.
[12. Comments from the Mayor and Members of the City Council.]
ITEM 12 COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA SAY THIS EVENING? I WILL.
I BELIEVE TONIGHT IS THE, UM, IT'S CASEY MOORE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, HIS LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH US AS HE PREPARES TO BE THE CITY MANAGER IN THE VILLAGE.
AND, UM, WE'RE EXCITED FOR YOU.
I'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED YOU'LL BE MISSED.
YOU ARE TRULY, UM, YOU KNOW, IN PUBLIC SERVICE, YOU EMBODY THE SERVICE AND THE SERVANT SIDE OF THAT.
AND I'VE JUST APPRECIATED WORKING WITH YOU.
YOU'RE A GREAT DAD HUSBAND, AND I WISH YOU VERY WELL.
WE'LL TAKE YOUR TAX DOLLARS AS OFTEN AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM TO US.
SO THANKS CASEY, I APPRECIATE YOU.
I HAD LIKE TO SECOND THAT ABOUT MR. MOORE.
UH, THAT GUY IN MY GOLF GROUP LIVES OVER THERE AND, UH, I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT BARKING DOG OVER THERE.
SO LET'S TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU GET OVER THERE, UH, I'M VERY HAPPY FOR YOU.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND, UH, YOU'LL DO GOOD THINGS OVER THERE.
UH, I DO WANT TO, UH, I WAS VISITING WITH MS. LETTON AND, UH, WE'VE GOT, I GUESS IT COMES UP PERIODICALLY, BUT WE'VE GOT AN ONGOING PROBLEM OF CONSTRUCTION CREWS STARTING TO WORK AT 5 36, 6 15:00 AM ON WEEKENDS.
AND, UH, THAT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE'S WEEKENDS AT TIMES THAT THEY MIGHT WANNA SLEEP IN A LITTLE BIT OR JUST STAY AT HOME.
UH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AT SOME POINT, OR I'D LIKE FOR US TO ADDRESS THAT AT SOME POINT AT OUR NEXT UPDATE OR HOWEVER WE CAN DO THAT.
AND, UH, MS. LADY, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO STOP BY AND HAVE A CHAT AND SEE WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK OUT.
BUT IT'S A, IT'S A GROWING PROBLEM, UH, PARTICULARLY OUT EAST AND, UH, IT IS DISRUPTIVE.
I HEARD IT THIS PAST WEEKEND, UH, AT 6:15 AM IT WAS A MILE OR SO AWAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING OVER THERE, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS VERY LOUD.
AND THEN I STARTED GETTING TEXT SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
SO IF I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT AND, UH, I HAD ONE OTHER THING, UH, PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE DATA CENTERS, BUT I'LL GET TO THAT NEXT TIME.
THANK YOU
YEAH, I'LL, UH, THIRD THE, THE CASEY.
A COUPLE EXCITING THINGS THAT HAPPENED THIS, THIS WEEK IN THE COMMUNITY OR LAST FEW WEEKS.
OUR VISUAL ARTS COMMISSION CELEBRATED 25 YEARS, SO THAT WAS AN EXCITING MILESTONE FOR THEM.
AND THEN, UH, EXCITING ROUTE 66 GALA THE OTHER NIGHT WHERE WE CELEBRATED A HUNDRED YEARS OF ROUTE 66.
UM, WANTED TO PUT A PLUG IN FOR ADMIN MATTERS ON NOVEMBER 6TH.
THE MAYOR AND I WILL BE AT AROUND THE CORNER DOWNTOWN AT 6:00 PM SO ANYBODY WATCHING ONLINE OR IN THE ROOM HERE, IF YOU WANNA COME CHAT WITH US, COME DO IT.
UH, JUST AN OPEN DISCUSSION THERE.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME, CASEY.
OH, IT'S NOVEMBER 5TH, NOT THE SIXTH.
IT'S NOVEMBER 5TH, NOT THE SIXTH.
NOVEMBER, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH.
MR. MOORE, NOT ELDER, MR. MOORE.
UM, I GUESS I'D BETTER SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND, AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR NEXT JOURNEY.
UM, SAD TO SEE YOU GO, BUT I THINK IT'S HUGE STEP FOR YOU.
UM, I DO WANT TO END TONIGHT BY
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SAYING THAT MY THOUGHTS, MY PRAYERS GO OUT FOR, TO, UH, THE EDMUND MEMORIAL QUARTERBACK TALON WILKERSON, WHO WAS INJURED IN FOOTBALL GAME LAST WEEK.UM, HE HAD SUCCESSFUL SURGERY ON SATURDAY MORNING, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND HE DOES HAVE MOTION IN HIS LEGS AND ARMS. HE STILL HAS A LOT OF TINGLING APPARENTLY IN HIS FINGERS, BUT THE DOCTORS ARE INCREDIBLY HOPEFUL.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I WISH EVERYONE WOULD KEEP HIM IN YOUR PRAYERS.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND CAST.